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Welcome to the PW Torch Daily Cast five 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,879 years ago flashback episode for Sunday, July nineteenth, twenty twenty six. 29 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:46,200 Today we jump back five years to the Money of 30 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:49,239 the Bank postgame show hosted by Greg Parks with the. 31 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: Wrestling Night in America. 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: Format, which originally live streamed on July eighteenth, twenty twenty one. 33 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:58,680 He talks with live callers about John Cena's return, Rio 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,439 Ripley against Charlotte Peacock problems and more. Also some bonus 35 00:02:03,519 --> 00:02:06,319 t Anda Slammiversary conversation. So let's get to it again. 36 00:02:06,359 --> 00:02:08,280 This originally live stream five years ago. 37 00:02:08,319 --> 00:02:20,879 Speaker 3: This week, if it's Sunday, it's Wrestling Night in America. 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,879 Here PETERW. Torschdailycast dot Com. Good Sunday evening for July eighteenth, 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,639 twenty twenty one. I am Pro Wrestling tors columnus Greg 40 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,439 Parks here with you to break down the Money in 41 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:31,840 the Bank pay per view that just went off the 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,800 year moments ago, as well as last night's Slammiversary pay 43 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,120 per view for Impact Wrestling. It's a two for one 44 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:42,360 weekend here, so we're gonna get right into the results 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,080 of those. 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So Slammiversary last night was a big show 57 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:20,919 for Impact Wrestling, so I don't want to sort of 58 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:24,439 forget about that as we hear on Wrestling Night in America, 59 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:27,159 do talk about the big shows and pro wrestling. The 60 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:30,479 pre show match saw the knockouts tag titles change hands 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,439 when Havoc and Rosemary defeated Fire and Flava. The first 62 00:03:34,479 --> 00:03:39,240 match was the traditional X Division Sprint. This was the 63 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,039 ultimate X match for the X Division Championship. Josh Alexander retained, 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,639 defeating the likes of Ace Austin, Chris Bay, P d Williams, 65 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:51,639 Roheet Raju, and Trey mcguell. Good to see Josh Alexander retain. 66 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,639 I really like him as sort of the face of 67 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,439 the X Division right now. Very good match, innovative spots, 68 00:03:57,479 --> 00:04:00,520 including a Canadian destroyer off someone's shoulders, so that was 69 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:03,159 kind of wild. The second match of the show saw 70 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,919 Matt Cardona and Chelsea Green defeat Brian Myers and Taneil Dashwood. 71 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Chelsea Green was the surprise partner of Matt Cardona in 72 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,240 this mixed tag match what about six minutes. This was 73 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,480 more of getting Chelsea Green on there as a surprise. Obviously, 74 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:23,439 she's dating or is engaged to Matt Cardona. Cardona formerly 75 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,360 dated Taneil Dashwood. Obviously the background with Cardona and Brian 76 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:30,199 Myers as well known as well, so a lot going 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,959 on in that match. Cardona and Chelsea Green pick up 78 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,560 the victory the third match with w Morrissey, the former 79 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Big Cast, defeating Eddie Edwards. I like what Impact has 80 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,360 done with Morrissey treating him as a serious threat to 81 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,839 a big man. I thought Eddie Edwards was the right 82 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:48,120 opponent to bump for him and to be sympathetic to 83 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,000 the crowd. Impact had a crowd on hand as well 84 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,439 for this one, similar to what WWE had at Money 85 00:04:54,439 --> 00:04:56,319 in the Bank, of course, not as big of a crowd. 86 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,279 Match number four was an unannounced match returning Finjuice. David 87 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:04,279 Finley and Juice Robinson defeated Madman Fulton and Mahabali Shira. 88 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,560 Match number five was Chris Saban over Moose. A bit 89 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,399 of a surprise there. Moos has had a lot of 90 00:05:10,439 --> 00:05:13,079 momentum going forward. He just lost to Kenny Omega in 91 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:16,600 the last major match he was in. The Good Brothers 92 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,480 won the Impact Tag titles, defeating the former champions Joe 93 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,639 Dorian Rhino as well as Rich Swan and William mac Fallabah. 94 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,519 TJP was not available for this show, so No Way 95 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,720 Jose now known as simply no Way, a sub for TJP, 96 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:33,639 is the partner of Falabah in a tag title match 97 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:37,519 the Good Brothers Impact Wrestling Tag champs. Deanna Parowza defeated 98 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,439 thunder Rosa, which was a surprise opponent for her to 99 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,000 retain the Knockouts title. Mickey James came and offered Diana 100 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,399 as spot on the NWA All Women's pay per view 101 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,560 that they'll have coming up next month. And then in 102 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,759 the May of Kenny Omega feeding Sammy Kala had a 103 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:55,600 very violent, very bloody, very hardcore match. It was no 104 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,639 d Q for the Impact title. The very end saw 105 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,279 j White come out and face off with Kelly Omega. 106 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:06,600 The show went off the air either to tease fans 107 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:09,000 tuning in because just at the moment someone else was 108 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:11,560 running in, or they went off the air too early 109 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,720 and didn't show the aftermatch. So I'm sure they will 110 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,959 show it this coming Thursday on Impact. As for Money 111 00:06:18,959 --> 00:06:21,399 in the Bank tonight, the pre show saw the USO's 112 00:06:21,439 --> 00:06:25,160 defeat Ray Mysterio and Dominic Masteria to win the tag titles, 113 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,560 so all kinds of tag titles changing hands this weekend. 114 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,319 Match Number one was Nicki Ash or Nikki Ash defeating 115 00:06:33,399 --> 00:06:36,839 Alexa Bliss Osca Live Morgan's, Elenavega and Natalia Tamina and 116 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:39,800 Naomi to win the women's money in the Bank match. 117 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,399 I thought this was a pretty weak money in the 118 00:06:42,399 --> 00:06:46,079 bank match buy money in the bank match standards. I 119 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,800 don't have a huge problem with Nikki getting the victory. 120 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,879 She does seem to have a lot of momentum with 121 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,040 this new character, so I'm fine with that. There really 122 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,480 were not a lot of solid contenders in this match. 123 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,519 This is a pretty weak lineup from a star power 124 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,120 point of view, and I think that contributed to the 125 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,480 match quality as well. But Nikki gets the victory there. 126 00:07:07,439 --> 00:07:11,839 Match number two aj Styles and almost retaining the tag 127 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:16,800 titles over the Viking Raiders. The fans were firmly behind 128 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:19,279 Styles and almost, which was interesting there for that one 129 00:07:20,079 --> 00:07:22,399 that turned out to be a better match than I expected. 130 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Match number three was lastly defeating Kofe Kingston in a 131 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:31,000 veritable squash. Lashley took his time dismantling Kofe Kingston. Doesn't 132 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,240 speak well for Kofe to have a high profile lost 133 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,120 to brock Lesnar the way he lost to Brock on 134 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,000 the first SmackDown on Fox, as well as now here 135 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,920 against Lashley, so it'll be interesting to see where Kovie 136 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:45,639 Kingston goes from here. Lashly likely ticketed for the returning 137 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,560 Goldberg at SummerSlam, so no wonder WWE wanted to keep 138 00:07:49,639 --> 00:07:52,920 him strong with this victory. Match Number four was Charlotte 139 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Flair defeating Rhea Ripley to win the We're All Women's Championship. 140 00:07:55,759 --> 00:08:00,160 I look at Charlotte's always in the title pictures, so 141 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,199 it feels a little dirty to say that I support 142 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,720 her victory here, but I do in a way. This 143 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,199 was a really interesting match from a crowd reaction point 144 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:11,879 of view. The crowd really didn't have much time for 145 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:14,480 either one of these women, chanting for Becky Lynch early 146 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:17,680 on Charlotte not happy with that, flipping off the crowd. 147 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:22,560 I attribute that mostly to WWE muddying the waters on 148 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:25,759 their characters and really not giving us a clear baby 149 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,439 face to cheer for in the lative to this, But 150 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:30,839 the work that both women did won over the crowd 151 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:33,159 by the end, So thumbs up to both of these women. 152 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:36,840 Hopefully that is an acknowledgment, especially for Rehea Ripley, because 153 00:08:36,879 --> 00:08:40,440 Charlotte is Charlotte, She's entrenched as a top women star. 154 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,399 Rieia Ripley hopefully can find herself in a similar position 155 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,320 here going forward, and hopefully WWE management will acknowledge the 156 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,679 work that she did along with Charlotte here to win 157 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,600 the crowd over in this match. Match number five was 158 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,159 the men's money in the Bank ladder match and that 159 00:08:56,159 --> 00:08:59,600 at this point during the entrances, Peacock had some issues, 160 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,279 so there was a lot of consternation on Twitter about this. Luckily, 161 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,120 it was the right match to have the issues because 162 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,480 there were so many long entrances here drawn out and 163 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:12,080 by the time it got around to the match a 164 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,759 few minutes in, Peacock had resolved whatever issues it was 165 00:09:14,799 --> 00:09:18,039 having with the presentation of the show. Big Ee, as 166 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,960 most expected, got the victory here defeating John Morris and 167 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, King Knakamura, Riddle, Drew McIntyre, ed Ricochet. 168 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:30,159 McIntyre taken out by Jinder Mahal and his associates halfway 169 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,679 through the match. A big pop for Big Ee getting 170 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,600 the victory. So Biggie and Nicky ash are your two 171 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:39,159 money in the bank briefcase holders, neither one of them 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,759 cashing it in on this show. And then finally in 173 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:45,159 the main event, Roman and Rains defeating Edge, Seth Rollins, 174 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,039 interfering at will once the referee was bumped. And this 175 00:09:49,279 --> 00:09:53,799 was more of what we saw with Roman Rains over 176 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,320 the summer and over the last year really in terms 177 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,480 of his matches being very methodical, well a lot of 178 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:05,799 them having reins giving a soliloquy during them. This didn't 179 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,960 have that as much. Would have been more difficult to 180 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,919 do with the live crowd, but especially at the very beginning, 181 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,039 it was a slow pace to it, but credit both men. 182 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,480 They never really lost the crowd, even three and three 183 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,039 plus hours into this main show. 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In fact, I have a flight at seven 219 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,200 am tomorrow, so it's it's gonna be a either a 220 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,120 long night or a short night for me, depending on 221 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,559 your interpretation of it. But I'm excited to talk about 222 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,759 these shows with you guys. To that end, though, if 223 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:23,279 you're if you're new to this process, we are a 224 00:12:23,399 --> 00:12:27,120 PG show, so please keep your comments PG and keep 225 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:30,159 your questions or comments to three total so we can 226 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:33,679 get through everyone who has some comments to share. So 227 00:12:33,799 --> 00:12:36,279 we'll hit the phones first with the four to one 228 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,559 oh Airy code. Four one oh. This is Reverend Keith 229 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,240 and Baltimore, Maryland. Reverend Keith, Welcome to Wrestling Night in 230 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:41,960 America tonight. 231 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:46,519 Speaker 4: Thank you so much Greg for taking my call. I'm 232 00:12:46,519 --> 00:12:50,399 gonna make it brief and to the point. We all 233 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,879 know that the real Ripley shall As Flair match was 234 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,600 matched at at Night. Those two ladies really brought it. 235 00:12:56,639 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 5: What were your. 236 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 6: Thoughts on that? 237 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it was as clear of 238 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,799 a match of the night. To me, I thought it 239 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,720 was really strong. I thought the men's money in the 240 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:09,120 bank ladder match probably would give it some competition depending 241 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:11,240 on how you see Roman reraigins versus that. I can 242 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:14,320 see a lot of people liking that match for the drama. 243 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,000 I can see a lot of people not liking it 244 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:18,159 because of how long it took to get out of 245 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:21,000 first and second gear, maybe some of the shenanigans at 246 00:13:21,039 --> 00:13:23,240 the end with the ref bump and things like that, 247 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:25,639 so some detail work that I think a lot of 248 00:13:25,639 --> 00:13:28,679 people will probably knock that main event down for. But 249 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:30,600 there are a lot of people that can overlook that stuff, 250 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:34,559 and especially those who really enjoy Roman Reiginns's work. But yeah, 251 00:13:34,879 --> 00:13:36,960 you know, it was a big night and a good 252 00:13:37,039 --> 00:13:40,559 night for Charlotte and Riha to not only have, as 253 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,639 you said, potentially the match of the night, but also 254 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:46,360 to really win over the crowd in the process of 255 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,399 doing so. I think that speaks well to both Rhea 256 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,720 and Charlotte going forward. 257 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,279 Speaker 4: Yes, and I had originally tweeted it it was uncharacteristic 258 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:01,240 of Charlotte to give the finger to the crowd, but 259 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,080 I realized in hindsight that she was responding to we 260 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,200 want Becky Champs. 261 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 5: Is that correct? 262 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 6: Yeah? 263 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: For sure? 264 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:13,639 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so that was her way of healing. You 265 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,080 know that Charlotte is a heel, and I had predicted 266 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,080 that Charlotte Fled would be given the title back. I 267 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,759 think this is what her fourteenth title reign or something, 268 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,559 and at some point she's gonna break her daddy's record. 269 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:25,399 Speaker 7: We all know that. 270 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,639 Speaker 4: But I think it was well deserved here, and they 271 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:30,679 both knocked it out the park. I mean, from the 272 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,799 soup plexus to this ring psychology, to the selling everything, 273 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,919 and even Charlotte's reverse back moon salt flip, which sometimes 274 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,360 is overrated. I thought she she nailed that perfectly tonight. 275 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you mentioned a lot of the positives 276 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,759 and the fact that they were able to overcome what 277 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,120 I think a lot of people agree is such poor 278 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:56,679 storytelling leading up to this. And I know the story 279 00:14:56,799 --> 00:15:00,440 was Rihea sort of trying to one up Shark and 280 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,720 trying to out Charlotte Charlotte in the build up to it, 281 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:06,559 but I just thought it was a little messy. But 282 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,759 credit again to the women for being able to overcome that, 283 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:12,320 and you know, the agent thing of the match, the 284 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,639 producer who was in charge of the match and laying 285 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:17,279 out the match in a way that got the crowd 286 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,639 into it as well, despite neither one of these women 287 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:23,120 coming across really as likable or or someone you'd want 288 00:15:23,159 --> 00:15:25,279 to cheer for in the build up in the last 289 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,240 few weeks and really the last few months. So credit 290 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,720 to the producer to this as well. But you know, 291 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,480 I agree. I think I think there's an argument to 292 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,200 be made, in a pretty strong argument. As you said, 293 00:15:36,279 --> 00:15:37,879 Reverend Keith, that that was the match of. 294 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: The night, Yes, I would say so. Now we know 295 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,960 Peacock had their issues tonight, and like you said, at 296 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,600 least the majority of the issues came doing the Men's 297 00:15:49,639 --> 00:15:54,320 Money in the Bank ladder match introductions. However, I don't 298 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,840 know about you, but I, at least on my screen 299 00:15:56,919 --> 00:16:00,600 because I had to keep attempting to log then logged 300 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:03,320 back in, I still miss the first five minutes of 301 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:06,440 the of the Men's Money in the Bank match, And 302 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:09,840 I've noticed Greg, since Peacock has taken over, they've had 303 00:16:09,879 --> 00:16:12,159 a lot of streaming issues and I just hope and 304 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,360 pray that they rectify this because it takes the joy 305 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,840 out of watching a major pay per view when you 306 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,240 have to, you know, when it's flashing in and out, 307 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:26,200 you have all these streaming issues at three different points 308 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,960 on my TV, it just went black, you know. 309 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:30,159 Speaker 5: So it's awful and. 310 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: It's something that they need to rectify, you know. 311 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:37,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I separate from tonight's issues, and I think I 312 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:39,759 missed the first two or three minutes of the men's 313 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:41,480 match when I had to log out and log back in. 314 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:45,559 There are not a lot of people I've noticed who 315 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:48,080 have a lot of good things to say about Peacock. 316 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:54,480 You would think that a cable giant like Comcast, NBC 317 00:16:54,679 --> 00:16:57,720 Universal could get their ducks in a row and get 318 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,639 this to work. And you know, wrestling fans were already 319 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,279 kind of over Peacock with the the lack of the 320 00:17:05,279 --> 00:17:09,200 ability to pause a live presentation and things like that. 321 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:12,839 So the integration, yeah, and to rewind, so the integration 322 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:17,200 of the WWE network into Peacock had already pardoned my 323 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:22,039 pun ruffled some feathers to begin with, and then to 324 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,240 have and and to their credit, I have not experienced 325 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:28,079 the same issues I guess that you have over the 326 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,799 last few months. So most of the time, this was 327 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:33,599 really the This was really the first serious issue that 328 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,279 I'd had watching WWE pay per views on Peacock. So 329 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,079 I will say to this point, you know, if you're 330 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,319 watching live and if you don't need to rewind or 331 00:17:43,319 --> 00:17:46,480 don't need to pause, I haven't had any real major issues. 332 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,119 But tonight was just was a struggle there for a while. 333 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was. It was the number one trend 334 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:58,519 on Twitter for all the wrong reasons. Yeah, now shifting 335 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:01,039 gears and then I'm a step aside and that all 336 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:03,599 the other callers take over. It was good to see 337 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,160 Supercina back. And as I was sharing with my wife, 338 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,799 WWE's booking over the years has always been to send 339 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:16,400 the fans home happy, and I questioned Greg the thought 340 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,240 process behind putting the men's money in the bank ladder 341 00:18:20,279 --> 00:18:23,759 match before the Roman Rains match, especially if you were 342 00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:26,640 going to book Big E to win, you know. But 343 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:29,799 now I see why they had John Boy come back, 344 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,960 and it was good to see him. He hadn't lost 345 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,559 a beat, you know, he still looked the same, He 346 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,039 still has his same you know, manner hythm. So I 347 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:44,359 look forward to John Cena Roman Reigns headlining Summerslam's August 348 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,200 twenty first at Allegiance stadium, and that's a huge stadium. 349 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,759 That's where my Ravens would be playing a month later 350 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:50,880 on the first Monday. 351 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:51,519 Speaker 7: Night football game. 352 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: So you know, I get an early look at this 353 00:18:54,279 --> 00:18:58,160 huge stadium that everybody's talking about. So it was good 354 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,119 to see John Cena. I'm looking forward to that main event. 355 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,799 And also quick, I'm a cheat here, I said I 356 00:19:03,799 --> 00:19:07,720 had one comment, only I have another one. I thought 357 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,720 the way that they booked Lastly to destroy KOFE was perfect. 358 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,119 I would have not even let it go that long. 359 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,279 I mean, because if you want, whether it's Goldberg or 360 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,920 brock Lessner to be built as his next opponent, you 361 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,960 want Lastly to just look intimidating, to look massive, to 362 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,519 look beast like. And I thought he just destroyed KOFE 363 00:19:29,559 --> 00:19:34,519 from start to finish. And you question why they even 364 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,079 built KOFEE up in the way that they did in 365 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,680 the weeks prior to have him, you know, be destroyed. 366 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,400 But it told the story. So you know, it all 367 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,359 tied together with lastly's promo that he cut on MVP 368 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:51,039 at the end of last week's raw, you know, saying 369 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:53,599 he was sick of the women and wings and all 370 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:53,920 of that. 371 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 5: It came full circle. 372 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 4: Greg, So this is one time when I can say 373 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:03,359 the writers on Raw did an excellent job, you know, 374 00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:06,960 leading up to this match, because he truly destroyed Koche 375 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,920 with a vengeance. Thanks for taking my call, Greg, you 376 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,319 do a wonderful job. It's always and once again, thanks 377 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:15,400 for incorporating my notes from the Ring of Honor pay 378 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,119 per view last Sunday night, and I look forward to 379 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,880 talking to you next Sunday. 380 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: All right, thank you Reverend Keith. Absolutely doing the show 381 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:26,200 last week during the Ring of Honor pay per view 382 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,359 and having a Reverend Keith communicate with us was a 383 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,200 lot of fun. Yeah, Seena's return was it was good. 384 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,759 You know, he hasn't missed a beats. The hair might 385 00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:38,799 be a little different, but everything else looks the same. 386 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:42,440 I think he's going to be juiced being in front 387 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,279 of a live audience. It's been a while since he's 388 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:47,559 been in front of a live audience in terms of WWE. 389 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,720 So I think when he cuts that first promo back, 390 00:20:50,759 --> 00:20:53,079 whether it's Friday on SmackDown or whatever it may be, 391 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,759 I think that's going to be a real happening, and 392 00:20:55,799 --> 00:20:57,920 I think the crowds are going to be very happy 393 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,559 to see him, especially against uber Heel Roman reigns and 394 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,319 in the booking of Lashley, you know, building Koffee up. 395 00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:07,839 You always want your challenger to have some kind of 396 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,000 You always want to give him some hope and give 397 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,759 the fans some hope that there's a possibility that they're 398 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:14,839 going to win. So or otherwise why tune in? You know, 399 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,480 so I'm interested. You know, there's gonna be a lot 400 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,559 of people who look at this and say Kofe was 401 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:26,279 sacrificed again to bring in an aging star like Goldberg 402 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,960 over the Hill, and there's gonna be people that are 403 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,240 upset by that, And I get it. You know, I'd 404 00:21:31,319 --> 00:21:33,720 rather see if it was up to me brock Lesner 405 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:35,920 or Goldberg, I'd rather see lessnar against Lastly. I think 406 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:41,240 that's a more interesting dynamic than Goldberg against Lashly, which 407 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,519 again is the reporting that's out there right now. But 408 00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:47,079 you know, we'll have to see if that ends up 409 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:48,039 going in a different direction. 410 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 8: Are you a fan of aw looking to sit back, 411 00:21:58,079 --> 00:22:01,119 relax and listen to some like minded podcasters who share 412 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:01,680 your passion. 413 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,079 Speaker 3: Do you want to be topped off the ledge after 414 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,319 a segment that has you wondering what the heck are 415 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,000 they thinking? 416 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 8: Do you want to join a discussion on what AW 417 00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:12,480 is doing right and what they could do to improve, 418 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,440 Then join me, Joel and me Greg for the All 419 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,400 of THEE Conversation Club every Friday on the PW Torch 420 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,240 Live Cast. Fee search PW Torch in your podcast app 421 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:25,279 and subscribe to PW torch Daily Cast. Our stream our 422 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:28,720 shows directly from pw torch dot com. Find full details 423 00:22:28,759 --> 00:22:41,920 on the PW Torchdailycast lineup at pw torchdailycast dot com. 424 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,839 Speaker 3: I want to go to an email before we go 425 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,440 back to the phones. This email came in on Friday. 426 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:49,720 Is Roy from California, one of his two emails that 427 00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:52,759 he sent in for tonight's show. He says, Hello, Greg, 428 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:54,759 hope to be able to send an email regarding money 429 00:22:54,759 --> 00:22:56,799 in the bank fallout. But one question I've wanted to 430 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,680 ask is how long do you think until WWE makes 431 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,880 real wear boots. I ask this because I feel everyone 432 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:09,279 in WWE history who has gone bootless eventually does Jimmy Snuka, Yokozuna, Umaga, 433 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,920 Russev come to mind. I think I think of an 434 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,799 injury that could take place. I look at some of 435 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:16,839 the moves Riddle does where he lands on his feet 436 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,839 and just wonder if it's only a matter of time. 437 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:20,880 I'll be curious to see what spots he's involved in 438 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,680 that money in the bank. I'll be honest. I've not 439 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:26,240 spent a lot of time thinking about Riddle and the 440 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:30,240 potential for him to wear boots. He's wrestled this long 441 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,759 and I guess has not really had any major injuries 442 00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:37,160 by virtue of not wearing boots. I would be hesitant 443 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,240 if I was a wrestler to not wear boots, because 444 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:41,640 all it takes is one wrong move to get stepped on, 445 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,799 and that could hurt, especially when you're talking two hundred 446 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:46,839 three hundred pound wrestlers you're in the ring with. That's 447 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,279 not an experience I'd like to feel. But I think 448 00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:54,400 it does add a little to his character, that uniqueness. 449 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,480 He wouldn't be able to do the jumping and you know, 450 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,359 throwing the flip flops into the crowd as he does. 451 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,839 That's a signature of his entrance, and he wouldn't be 452 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,599 able to do that. So I think it adds to 453 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,880 the uniqueness of who Riddle is. So I don't think 454 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,799 they're going to be in a hurry to boot him 455 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:14,279 eventually down the line once he gets older, maybe, if 456 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:18,359 he changes character, maybe, but I see him for the 457 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,759 foreseeable future being barefoot. So let's go back to the phones. 458 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:24,519 Here the six's one five area code. This is Sean 459 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:28,000 from Murphreesboro, Tennessee. Sean. Good to hear from you here 460 00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:31,160 on a pay per view evening wrestling night in America. 461 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 9: Yes, there, Greg, It's always good to talk to you man. 462 00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:36,119 Thank you for doing this late knowing you're going to 463 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,519 be going early in the morning tomorrow, so we definitely 464 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:41,880 appreciate what you're doing tonight after this long night. But 465 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,440 I don't want to steal too much from what Rip 466 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,920 mc keith was talking about, because he made a lot 467 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,079 of good points. I wanted to kind of go I 468 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:51,480 mean talking about Charlotte Rhea, but number one giving them credit, 469 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,440 like you said, for getting the crowd invested in what 470 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,440 they were doing, because they did have a really good match. 471 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:01,759 And that's what's been disappointing about Rhea and seeing her 472 00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:04,319 slat fans. It's like, Okay, she was a babyface this 473 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,160 whole time, and that's an ugly way to show a babyface. 474 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,559 For the last month to do a lot of the 475 00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:12,039 stuff they've done, and it's just I think you're right. 476 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,200 I think they really had to take to put the 477 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,880 title on Charlotte because Rhea's got to get herself figured 478 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,359 out as a character, Like we know how good she 479 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,519 is in the ring, and so I think once she 480 00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:24,440 gets her they can somehow figure out the character development. 481 00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:26,440 I think they can go she's still a star in 482 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,119 the making, and they just have to get that right. 483 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,119 So I mean, is that why you were with me 484 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,640 as far as putting the bill on Charlotte tonight, just 485 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,680 because of that that sense the character issues. 486 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, I don't. I don't see you know, 487 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:43,759 Rhea Ripley. I think they need to move away from 488 00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:46,319 each other after this. And so then you ask yourself, 489 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,599 who does reeor Ripley move on? Maybe it's maybe it's 490 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:53,400 Becky Lynch. I don't know, but putting the title on 491 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,599 Charlotte at least gives it a little different look at 492 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,880 the top of the card. My only hesitation with that is, Okay, 493 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,440 now Ria Ripley has a claim at a rematch. I 494 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:06,359 know WW doesn't do automatic rematch clauses when Champions is 495 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,599 the title anymore, But my whole thing was getting away 496 00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:15,240 from the Charlotte versus Rhea feud, and tonight they've just 497 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,640 given an excuse to keep going with it by having 498 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,799 potentially Ria rematch with Charlotte and try to get her 499 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,240 title back. So I don't know, I think a lot 500 00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:26,039 of it's up in the air until Becky Lynch comes back. 501 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:27,519 I don't know when that is. I know she's been 502 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:31,119 shown training. I know, you know, there was some I 503 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,200 think a picture of her near or at Money in 504 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,440 the bank tonight that may have gotten the crowd into 505 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,519 a frenzy here in this match hoping to see her. 506 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,319 But it does kind of feel like Becky Lynch is 507 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,400 the star of the women's division and they're sort of 508 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,400 in a holding pattern until she comes back, and hopefully 509 00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:52,920 they have a date and it can sort of work 510 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,359 around that. 511 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's why I'm excited to see when Becky 512 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,200 does come back. I mean, it's going to be great 513 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,559 to see her, you know, glad she's do you know, 514 00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:03,960 it should be hopefully should be able to stay you know, 515 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,400 for a while. That is obviously up to her. But 516 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:08,960 I wanted to say again, I'm with Keith and you 517 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,480 guys as far as it was awesome to see John 518 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,440 Cena back. It was fantastic. I mean obviously the crowder 519 00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,559 Rup didn't and this is where they should be, Sina. 520 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,839 You know, a celebrity babyface up against you know, Roman 521 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,559 is the heel. I mean that just works perfectly. The promos. 522 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,079 I can't wait to hear the promos for this. It's 523 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,920 gonna be just I mean, are you as pumped as 524 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,279 I am for that part of it? Because that's when 525 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:36,839 you have a babyface, heal dynamic with two guys that 526 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,599 are as good as on promos now as Roman has 527 00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:42,000 been at the heel and seeing Sena do what he's 528 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,359 gonna do. I mean, I think it's going to be fantastic. 529 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,960 What do you think about that part of it? Because 530 00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:46,960 I can't wait for it. 531 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited. Rains has been able to vanquish a 532 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:55,680 lot of challengers from sort of the lower ranks underneath him, 533 00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:59,759 the Kevin Owens, the Ray Mysterios. You know, he's been 534 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:04,680 able to defeat now a returning star, a legacy star 535 00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:09,119 in Edge, but he's not faced someone the level of 536 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,799 John Cena yet. So it's going to be interesting the 537 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,799 promos because and I don't know if this is going 538 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,160 to be brought up or not, but but Roman Reigns 539 00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:22,519 is the modern day John Cena that he was the 540 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,119 guy that WWE hitched their wagon to when Sina left. 541 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,799 And does Sina bring that up? Does Sina say, Look, 542 00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:31,079 the only reason you're in this spot is because I left. 543 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,400 That may not make Cina look very good to admit that, 544 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,839 but I don't know. I mean, how is that dynamic 545 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,119 going to go? There are so many different directions they 546 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,799 could go with promos. It's going to be interesting to 547 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:44,759 see how it works. And like you said, they're both 548 00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:48,400 talented enough that whatever direction they decide to go, I 549 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,279 think it's going to work. 550 00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, because I feel like they had the match a 551 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,680 couple of years ago, but it was you know again, 552 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:58,400 Roman was the John Cena, you know, getting rejected by 553 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000 everybody and his promo skills the baby theys just weren't 554 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:03,799 good and so he did good for it. I mean, 555 00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:05,680 he did an okay jout of I thought kind of 556 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,440 going into that match, but it was just like nobody 557 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,000 really wanted to see it, and it was like, Uh, 558 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:11,599 now that you want to see it, you're excited about 559 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,359 where they go with it and so that that'll be 560 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,720 fun to me. But the two of the questions I 561 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,519 was going to ask you was the first was going 562 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,680 back to the women's money to make louder match, which 563 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,839 I'm with to you, the star power pretty low. It 564 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,799 was a pretty weak match they tried, but it just 565 00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:29,200 the crowd wasn't into it, and I didn't like the 566 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:31,839 I mean, I'm glad Nicky want because I love Nicky 567 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,920 as a character and she's trying to make the best 568 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,359 out of this almost a superhero. I'm still not a 569 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,119 fan of it, but I see why they're doing it. 570 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,559 The finish was just so so lame, with them all 571 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,839 fighting and she just climbs up and just gets the briefcase. 572 00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:50,079 I'm like, it just makes everybody look so dumb. Well, 573 00:29:50,119 --> 00:29:51,759 what did you think about that? I just don't like 574 00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:53,920 the way they did it. I mean, it's fine to 575 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,240 have Mickey winb but what do you think about the 576 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:56,359 way they did it. 577 00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: It was one of those things that I think will 578 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,160 make a cool visual inte images that they show and 579 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,079 video packages that recap Nicki's rise, but when it's actually 580 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,079 happening and you see how weakly the women were actually fighting, 581 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:13,920 they're kind of pawing at each other. There was there 582 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,240 wasn't even like early real punches thrown in that. I mean, 583 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,279 it looks so weak and so ineffective in the moment 584 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,279 that it just kind of made your roly rise. And 585 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:25,920 I thought, unfortunately that was sort of par for the course. 586 00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,480 I thought a lot of the match was very clunky 587 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,960 and there were spots that just didn't work, and that 588 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:35,079 was one of them. And you know, ultimately that was 589 00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,359 the last spot of the match where Nicki goes and 590 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,400 gets the victory. So yeah, you know, my pick for 591 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,960 this was Alexa Bliss. So as as down as I 592 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,319 was initially on this nicky character, like you said, and 593 00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:52,799 I think you framed it very well, I'm excited for Nicki. 594 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,079 I'm not really still one hundred percent on board with 595 00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:59,079 this character, but she's doing the best she can with it. 596 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:01,319 You can tell that she's engaged with it. You can 597 00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:04,000 tell that this was her idea and she has some 598 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:06,240 agency in this character, that it wasn't just something that 599 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:10,279 was foisted upon her by WWE Creative. So the fans 600 00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:12,279 are able to tell that, and fans are able to 601 00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:14,519 tell when you're genuinely excited to play a character, and 602 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:17,079 I think that's going to help her win over some 603 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:22,119 doubting fans going forward. So it's not Alexa Bliss. So 604 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,920 that's my positive spin on Nikki winning this one, because 605 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,960 if Alexa wanted, it's a sign that WWE is going 606 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,200 to go full bore with this the mystical, magical Alexa 607 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,000 Bliss stuff, and I don't know how that would work 608 00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:37,039 in front of live fans. 609 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: iPhone users, if you're listening to us on the Native 610 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,920 podcast app on your iPhone, you can unlock our commercial 611 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,759 free versions of our free shows by searching pw Torch 612 00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:51,480 in Apple Podcasts. You'll see a charcoal grade logo that 613 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,880 says PW Torch VIP on it. 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Just search PW 627 00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:29,839 Torch in your Apple podcast app. 628 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,119 Speaker 9: Yeah, I had Alexa winning too, so I'm curious to 629 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,119 see where they go with what she's doing. I mean, 630 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,200 they were into her tonight more than than I thought, 631 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:39,519 so that was intriguing. 632 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 5: The last question I was going. 633 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 9: To ask you is and I'll get off here and 634 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,079 let other guys get in, and I know it's a 635 00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:49,680 late night be with Drew. You know, definitely was worried 636 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,720 about the reaction he would get it and it was 637 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,279 very subpar. I was worried about that they've done such 638 00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,480 a bad job with him in the last you know, 639 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,319 three four months, just the stupid some of the promos 640 00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:04,680 he's done, and it's just the stuff they're giving him. 641 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:06,359 It's I don't I think he's trying to do the 642 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,960 best he can with it. But were you worried about 643 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,039 that too? And and do you think knowing he. 644 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,119 Speaker 3: Can beat gender of Mahall. 645 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,359 Speaker 9: You know, even though none of us want to see 646 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:19,880 that match, but they'll they're gonna do it. Do you 647 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,000 think after he beats Gender, do you think he can 648 00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:25,680 kind of build up a little momentum that eventually if 649 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,799 he does hopefully eventually move the mat down and get 650 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,759 you know, faced Roman at some point next year or 651 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,920 you know, whenever they do, you think he can build 652 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,319 the momentum from that and start going back in the 653 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,000 right direction with his character and overall is a good show. Greg, 654 00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:43,839 have a safe trip seeing your family. I hope you 655 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,519 get their safe, hope everything goes well. And I appreciate 656 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,359 you being here like there also everybody says all these 657 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,079 late nights, and appreciate what you do for us, man, 658 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,640 and thanks for taking my call as always. 659 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely appreciate the kind of word Sean. 660 00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:57,799 Speaker 5: You know. 661 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: I think that's an interesting point that Sean makes there 662 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:05,559 in terms of you know, the speculation is Drew McIntyre 663 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,639 moves to SmackDown in the draft. Could they use the 664 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,519 Ginger Mahal feud, a feud that McIntyre is undoubtedly going 665 00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:14,639 to come out on top on to springboard him and 666 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,599 give him a little more momentum than he has now 667 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,079 to go into SmackDown a little stronger than he is now, 668 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,480 having lost the title, having lost the rematches to Lashley. 669 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,480 I think that's an interesting way to look at it. 670 00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,800 I think timing wise, it could work out that way too. 671 00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,440 I was on the Flagship with Wade Keller this past 672 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,119 week talking about money in the bank and talking really 673 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,760 about Drew McIntyre's character, and so, you know, given what 674 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,199 we had talked about on that show, I'm disappointed but 675 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:51,039 not surprised that the crowd was not fully engaged with 676 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:55,760 Drew McIntyre, the babyface. I think the Wade WWE framed 677 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,880 him getting rematches, and the way they could have framed 678 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,920 it to make him come across says less whiny and 679 00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:06,440 I think would have worked better. And you know, part 680 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,159 of my argument that I made too was Drew mcintarre's 681 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,840 entire character has been defined as him being champion. Now 682 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,400 that he's not only not champion, he's not in the 683 00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:21,760 championship hunt, they've almost had to create a character on 684 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,039 the run with him out of nothing because that character 685 00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:28,800 that he played, he can't play that now that he's 686 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,440 not champion. So that's where you get the story time 687 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,079 with Drew McIntyre, and that's the same well that they've 688 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,360 gone to with you know, John Cena, and it reminds 689 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,920 me of sort of the suffering suck attache era of 690 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:42,239 Roman Rains, where they were just throwing everything at the 691 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,320 wall to try to think of a way to get 692 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,639 Roman over in his promos with the fans. And I'm 693 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:50,679 not sure this is gonna work for Drew mcintarre. It's 694 00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:53,639 certainly not embarrassing as that era was for Roman Rains 695 00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:56,760 and for WWE Creative, but I don't think story Time 696 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,320 with Drew McIntyre is really the way to go either, 697 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,920 as we've seen from the reaction tonight. So they've got 698 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,719 some retooling to do, and hopefully this feud with Ginger 699 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,119 Mahal gets him back on track. Back to the emails 700 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,559 we go. And by the way, if you're just tuning 701 00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:16,800 in later or tuned in recently, I am Pro Wrestling 702 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,119 Towards columnist Greg Parks, and this is Wrestling Night in 703 00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,519 America for July eighteenth, twenty twenty one. We're talking about 704 00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:26,440 Slammiversary Impacts pay per view from Saturday night, and also 705 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,079 Money in the Bank, which just went off the air. Recently, 706 00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,519 so taking your phone calls at five one, five, six 707 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:34,840 oh five, nine, three four or five and your emails 708 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,599 at WNIA livecast at gmail dot com. We are here 709 00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:41,920 every Sunday night, usually at eight pm Eastern, for about 710 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,159 ninety minutes. I usually have a co host from the 711 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:47,000 PW Torch dot com family on as we talk the 712 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,679 big shows and pro wrestling on these pay per view 713 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,440 Sunday nights, like we had tonight. I go on the 714 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,639 air right after the pay per view goes off the air, 715 00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:57,480 so we'll head back to our emails. And this is 716 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:01,280 Chris from reading Pennsylvania. He's says, the Ria Ripley and 717 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,920 Charlotte Flare match was very good. I even enjoyed it. 718 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,880 Between the pixelation, the feed blacking out for a second, 719 00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:10,760 the wild amount of camera cuts, and the horrible build 720 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,400 up to the match, these two wrestlers really got the 721 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,039 crowd into it and put on a damn fine match. 722 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,559 It's shame WW and Peacock seemed to conspire against these 723 00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:23,519 performers on a weekly basis. I thought that the blackout 724 00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:25,559 during the Charlotte Rea match, I thought that was to 725 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,199 try to cover for Charlotte, giving the crowd the finger. 726 00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:30,880 I didn't think they did a tremendously good job of 727 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,559 doing that, but that was my impression of it. I 728 00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:37,199 could be wrong on that, but you know, I think 729 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,880 that is an opinion that Chris shares that is echoed 730 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,039 by a lot of folks on Twitter, and I'm on 731 00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:47,039 Twitter at Greg M Parks. I'd love for you to 732 00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:49,360 follow me there, interact with me during these pay per 733 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,960 view Sundays and most other nights when there's live wrestling, 734 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,199 as well as well as the callers that we've had 735 00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,599 tonight that Charlotte versus Rio is a very good match, 736 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,320 that the build up did them no favors, but they 737 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,880 were able to overcome that on this evening, and of 738 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,559 course the issues with Peacock tonight were well documented. So 739 00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:11,400 back to the phones we go. It's the force of 740 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,360 an eight area code. It's Drell from Georgia. Darrell, Welcome 741 00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:16,039 back to Wrestling Night in America. 742 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 7: How you doing tonight, Greg. 743 00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:20,639 Speaker 3: I'm doing well. Thanks for calling in. 744 00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I'm happy that you're able to. 745 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 5: Doing your layman's work and we getting ready for football. 746 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,519 Speaker 7: Season, so you know I have to always mention you 747 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:41,840 and your jack war Hopefully y'all have a better season 748 00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:44,199 since y'all got Sunshine as your quarterback. 749 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,159 Speaker 3: The figures are crossed. It's gonna be hard to have 750 00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,840 a worse season than last week than last year. 751 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 7: I will say, I need to make sure y'all signed 752 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,400 that offensive tackle. 753 00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:56,679 Speaker 5: That's what y'all need to do. 754 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 7: But you know, and that's another thing and outside of wrastling. 755 00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:06,840 But anyway to talk about the show, I don't only 756 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,360 go back. I know y'all spoke on this tonight, but 757 00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:17,440 that Ria and Charlotte match begainning of that match, that 758 00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:20,360 the fans wasn't into it, you can blame that on 759 00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:22,800 the story. I don't blame it on the raffles Pfel. 760 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,400 I blame it on someone like Ben because of the 761 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,760 story that he was telling, and that put those those 762 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:33,039 those people out there in a harder predicament where they 763 00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:34,880 probably had to go a little bit harder than they 764 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,280 wanted to. Maybe, but the match was. 765 00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:38,599 Speaker 5: Ended up being good. 766 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 7: But I feel like they did them no justice because 767 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,920 even though that match turned out to be good. 768 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 3: That. 769 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,039 Speaker 7: It didn't end up with nothing. Even though Charlotte won, 770 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,760 and she's still not in a better place. I think 771 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,360 she's even in the worst place, and then let's say 772 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,800 Becky show up Monday, you I have no choice but 773 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,440 to make her a short time champion and Backy win 774 00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:07,440 that title off for her and Luke's damage after that, 775 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,360 and they haven't showed the possible the capabilities of building 776 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,599 up anybody else. What do you think about that? What 777 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,440 I just said, I. 778 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 3: Don't think you have to make Becky the champion right away. 779 00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:22,039 I think you could make her chase a little bit. 780 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,519 You can tell the story of maybe her being a 781 00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:29,519 little rusty coming back and trying to regain her footing. 782 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,880 I don't think it's automatic that you have to. Obviously 783 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,880 you're gonna put her in the title picture. I think 784 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,320 no doubt about that, But I don't think you have 785 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,119 to put the title on her immediately. So that doesn't 786 00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:45,320 mean I think Charlotte's going to be a champion for 787 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,280 a year either. I think there's a sweet spot in 788 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,360 between there. But yeah, I think you do make a 789 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,400 good point though that I don't know that Charlotte is 790 00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:57,280 better off for having won here. I think this is 791 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,079 one of those situations where we have to see where 792 00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:02,320 they go from here. If Becky doesn't come back tomorrow, night, 793 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,559 who's Charlotte's first feud. If it's not Rea, there's really 794 00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:09,559 not a lot of contenders there. Becky took a picture 795 00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:13,119 of herself outside of Dicky's Arena tonight where Money in 796 00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,320 the Bank took place, so she may not have been 797 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,280 scheduled for tonight, but she could be on the show 798 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,960 tomorrow night if WWE wants to, you know, have John 799 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960 Cena come back at Money in the Bank and then 800 00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:26,199 have Becky Lynch come back at Raw and really make 801 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,239 it seem like WWE is are real happening, that people 802 00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:32,840 are coming back and things are back to normal. You 803 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,360 could see that happening. So, I mean, it could be 804 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,639 as soon as tomorrow night for Becky and Charlotte to 805 00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:41,119 go forward. But I don't think that's a given. But 806 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,519 based on the landscape of the Raw Women's division, I 807 00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,159 don't see a lot of other contenders for Charlotte's title, 808 00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,119 and I don't think that's gonna help Charlotte if that's 809 00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:51,000 the direction they go. 810 00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 10: Hey everyone, long time PW George commis Sean raddickin here 811 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,519 to let you know I've rebamped and renewed the Rattican 812 00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:05,159 Worldwide podcast for twenty twenty six, a weekly VIP exclusive. 813 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,559 Every week, I break down four or five of the 814 00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:11,840 biggest trending topics in pro wrestling. I also present my analysis, 815 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,960 providing insight that helps you understand the story better or 816 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,320 see it another way. Then maybe is the controversial takeout there? 817 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,639 Then I bring on a special guest for the second 818 00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:23,760 half of the podcast. Sometimes it's a wrestler or someone 819 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,039 else who works in the business. Other times it's a 820 00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:29,159 guest analysts who brings their specialized point of view out 821 00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:32,239 a particular key topic in the news. Recent guests have 822 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,559 included Bronson Reid from WWE and PCO. One of my 823 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,320 areas of specialty is the Japan wrestling scene, so I 824 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,440 often cover a big topic from Japan with PW Torture's 825 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,320 own Alan Farrell, Kelly Wells, and Chris Lansdell. I don't 826 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,480 just cover the news. I don't just riff on the 827 00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:49,760 news or give a standard hot take. I'll bring my 828 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,639 decades of studying this industry and talking one on one 829 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,199 with dozens of wrestling promoters to each week's show so 830 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,400 you understand not just what's happening, but the context of 831 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,039 why get ahead of the news, get ahead of the 832 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:06,440 pack with racking worldwide only at PW Torch VIP. 833 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 7: I understand that and I can see that as well, 834 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,880 but I think with now you have no main event 835 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:20,199 people that too few with Bobby. Lastly, unless you talking 836 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,280 about the little rumors of Goldberg coming back, which is 837 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,440 not interesting, I don't think you had a capability with 838 00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:30,840 raw Dwinderlin as it is to even play around with 839 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,320 not letting her win the title and stopping that momentum 840 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,320 of what she would bring back. So that's one part 841 00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:42,119 why I think you can't even allow her to dudes 842 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,119 that match because that could hurt you more than what 843 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,320 they can show that they can build back. So that's 844 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,239 one portion of it. Then also with the Money in 845 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,760 the Bank winner, both of them, I feel like neither 846 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,239 one of those those contenders are people who you seen 847 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,639 as winners. Since last year both Money and the Bank 848 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,880 winners won. You can tell even with the people that 849 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,440 they put on that these people are nothing but people 850 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,039 that they're gonna have in that role as people who 851 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,639 lost the money in the bank. Cash in with nick 852 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:23,679 Nikki Ash and even big so with Nicki Ash a 853 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,119 raw character, I don't see her being a contender, even 854 00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:32,960 though she was in that feud with those two competitors 855 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,480 from tonight with Charlotte and Real Ripley. You do you 856 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:41,000 see any chance of her being able to few, which 857 00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:45,039 I don't. The thing with the only potential person. 858 00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing with that, though, Drell is they get 859 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,360 that briefcase for three hundred and sixty five days, and 860 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,760 we know that in the world of professional wrestling, three 861 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,400 months down the line is a long time and a 862 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,480 lot can change in three months, let alone six months, 863 00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,000 nine months, twelve months when they may still be holding 864 00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:07,039 the briefcase. So I don't know how long it's going 865 00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:10,320 to be. Obviously, looking at it right now, you have 866 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,440 some pretty strong women's champions on both brands, with Charlotte 867 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,880 Flair and Bianca Belair, and neither one of them you 868 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,280 can imagine losing to someone like Nicky ash unless it's 869 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,039 after a grueling match like Charlotte had here with with 870 00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,960 with Rhea, or like Bianca may end up having with 871 00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:34,320 Sasha Banks at SummerSlam, and really the same with Biggie Bobby. 872 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,519 Lashley has gotten to the point where he is a 873 00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:43,519 very strong champion. Roman reigns very strong champion, So who 874 00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:45,760 does Big Ev. You know, I think big Ee right 875 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,480 now has a better chance as we sit here tonight, 876 00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:52,320 has a better chance of cashing in successfully than Nicky 877 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,000 ash you know, losing the money in the bank. Briefcase 878 00:45:57,079 --> 00:46:00,320 cash in would sort of cement Nikki as all wants 879 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,440 a superhero, right, She's so close to being the best, 880 00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:08,760 but she's not quite there. So that's kind of my 881 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,840 take today. But again you asked me three months. Six 882 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,719 months now, the landscape on either one or both of 883 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,440 these shows could change so drastically that all of a 884 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,119 sudden you may be able to see an avenue where 885 00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:22,719 a Nikki or a Biggie successfully cash in. 886 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,679 Speaker 7: But also looking at the reactions tonight from both people, 887 00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,079 there weren't even big reactions. You could see they kept 888 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,400 paying in the crowd. 889 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 5: Especially got a strong stand people just. 890 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 7: Looking reaction, But you could see a lot of people 891 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,320 out there with their hands crossed and not saying anything. 892 00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:48,760 And with the lineup that you have going around, it's 893 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,679 hard to see because I don't see anybody cashing in 894 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,960 on Roman That just out of the question, and with 895 00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:01,440 the damage that they did last year, with which mcaully 896 00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:08,559 given the giving the title way in the briefcase and 897 00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:09,679 the oldest. 898 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 5: Debacle that they did with it. 899 00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 7: I think that damaged money in the bank so much 900 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,199 that you can't wait six and seven months down the 901 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,599 line to cash them in because of what they did 902 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,719 last year and how it affected money in the bank 903 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,320 as a whole, and you wouldn't like for them to 904 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,480 put it on someone strong. 905 00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:35,519 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts, Well, yeah, I certainly think that 906 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,360 what they did last year with MS and Otis did 907 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,199 not help the standing of the money in the bank stipulation. 908 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,280 I also don't think that's going to be the norm 909 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,639 going forward. I think that was sort of the exception, 910 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,639 and I don't know if that was storytelling from the beginning, 911 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,440 or if WWE got cold feet with having Otis win it, 912 00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:58,039 or what the deal was. But I still think there's 913 00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:03,719 enough cache the idea of being able to cash that briefcase, 914 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,920 and especially now that nobody else has a real claim 915 00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:10,400 that it's hard to see any of the characters in 916 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,360 the match trying to pull the same stunt that Miz 917 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,280 did last year. So I think it's pretty solidly Nicki 918 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,360 and Nicki and Big Ee, and you know, I think 919 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,920 that all of the other instances where the money in 920 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:30,159 the bank briefcase was cashed in by the winner, tends 921 00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:33,599 to drown out that one time WWE did something admittedly 922 00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:34,320 foolish with. 923 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 7: It cool but although tonight, especially in that Charlotte their 924 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:47,079 real match, it showed that storytelling. We was wondering how 925 00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:51,320 coming out back into live arenas with crowds, how the 926 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,280 storytelling would effect some people, and we've seen it tonight 927 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,519 with that Ria and Charlotte match. 928 00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 5: It was such a drastic. 929 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:04,079 Speaker 7: Just even from the Cod and the Kofee match, that 930 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,079 you could tell the drasticness of it and how that 931 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,679 crowd just was going to sitting on their hands. So 932 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,880 with that being said, we know that storytelling's going to 933 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,960 affect a lot of this and if you can tell 934 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,079 a good story with the money in the bank, that's 935 00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:22,840 going to affect and damage the people that you had 936 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:28,000 it with. And they haven't shown in probably fifteen years 937 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,119 that they've been good with storytelling when it's been putting 938 00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:34,400 his hands all on everything. Lest we know that he 939 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,960 got his hands all over the Roman stuff. But that's 940 00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:41,119 not saying if we do or not, but that's my 941 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,960 feel on that. Now, last thing is what happened, how 942 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,400 they set up the Self and Edge match, you could 943 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,719 tell that this is where they was going and things 944 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,039 like that. I felt like this match set up and 945 00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:03,280 Drew and a Gender match set up. These are gonna 946 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,679 be two telling the matches and how Stealth and Drew 947 00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:11,320 set up afterwards and how they come out of that. 948 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,159 They need good stories to be told with these two. 949 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,599 I think Self and Edge have a better chance, But 950 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,559 you have a long road to ride with somebody like 951 00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:27,840 Gender and Drew, especially if you're going to be switching 952 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,239 Drew over the smack Down as a potential challenge. The won't. 953 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I spoke about how important I think 954 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,440 the Drew gender feud is for Drew to get a 955 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,199 springboard whether or not he goes to SmackDown. I think 956 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,480 if he stays on Raw, I still think he needs 957 00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:51,239 that refinement of who Drew McIntyre is. What are his 958 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,840 goals now that he's no longer champion, now that he's 959 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,039 no longer in the title picture. I think they really 960 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:02,559 need to refine who he is so that the audience, 961 00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:05,679 the live audience knows seth Rollins versus Edge. I think 962 00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:08,000 it's going to be a really nice semi main event 963 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:13,360 for the SmackDown brand at SummerSlam. Seth's character, I know, 964 00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:16,440 is not for everyone. I know there's a lot of 965 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,000 people who don't like the over the top nature, don't 966 00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:25,159 like the silliness that comes with it. Hopefully, Edge, with 967 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,719 his serious character, can sort of steer the Rollins character 968 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,440 back into a place where maybe he's more vicious than 969 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,920 he is silly in terms of you know, his actions 970 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,400 as his mic work and things like that. So you know, 971 00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:44,639 John Cena is not gonna be around forever. It's going 972 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,639 to be a short term thing with Roman reigns. Seth 973 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,239 versus Roman, they sort of teased that, but both of 974 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,440 them are heals, So I'm curious is to see what 975 00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:58,719 happens with Seth coming out of the Edge feud and 976 00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,840 if he is posidition to maybe do something healed versus 977 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,679 heal with Roman, or maybe join sides with Roman. They 978 00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:08,000 exchange glances tonight that I thought for a half second 979 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,920 they were going to reform the Shield, So I'm not 980 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,599 sure we can really rule that out, but yeah, I 981 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:18,559 think that's going to be an important match and important 982 00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:19,519 for the characters. 983 00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: Invault just a reminder you can reach us at Wade 984 00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:26,159 Keller post show at gmail dot com if you're in 985 00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:28,719 trusted in contributing to the Flagship or Wade Keller post 986 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,400 show at gmail dot com, if you're interested in submitting 987 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,480 a question or a topic or even a rant on 988 00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:35,920 the Wade Keller Pro Wrestling post shows. 989 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 7: I like that idea. If both of them join together, 990 00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:45,079 that will be something different and something new and fresh. Now, 991 00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:48,880 I know you haven't had a question on SA Slamber Versary, 992 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,199 so I'm going to my last question and stuff was 993 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,480 going to be about Slammer Versuary. So in the end 994 00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:59,599 of Slammer Versary, we see j White come out. They 995 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,000 have of it. They was trying to tease it like 996 00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:06,880 he was going to too sweet them, but they did. 997 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,079 Then it went off and stuff like that. Then you 998 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,440 read on after what you had spend juice them come 999 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,440 out and all of that. It's interesting to see what 1000 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,800 they do. Now I have and I've spoken with you 1001 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,360 about it. I've never been an impact I haven't been 1002 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,519 an Impact supporter in a while. I still say they're 1003 00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:37,920 charity case. They be wasting people money and stuff like that. 1004 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,280 But seeing that impact, they have been given good stories. 1005 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,199 I will give them that, but they're throwing so much 1006 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,039 out there and not getting any type of game and 1007 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,360 just staying stale, sometimes even decreasing. 1008 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,280 Speaker 5: There are promotion who's working with four or five different other. 1009 00:53:57,159 --> 00:54:01,679 Speaker 7: Promotions and giving you almost super indish those and still 1010 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,920 not getting anywhere even with the storytelling. Where do you 1011 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,840 see that this goal even though you would think they're 1012 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,320 doing all of this and it's not getting them anywhere, 1013 00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:17,360 you feel like they should just call them quies and 1014 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,800 but you hate that. Then the guys who they're probably 1015 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,199 won't have no place to work right now in the sort. 1016 00:54:24,639 --> 00:54:27,639 But I think it does more harm in the loan run, 1017 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,199 especially when they give you these super shows but not 1018 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,599 getting anything out of it. How did you like the 1019 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,119 j White portion of it? And what do you think 1020 00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:39,440 about that that they're giving you all this stuff. They're 1021 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,119 telling better stories as of right now, but it's still 1022 00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:45,400 not getting anywhere, and it seems like it's not going anywhere. 1023 00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:47,639 And I feel like when you keep doing the same 1024 00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:51,920 thing over and over again, which they are, and it's 1025 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,800 better than what they used to do, but they're still 1026 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,719 doing the same thing over and over again, that's the 1027 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,960 definition of insanity. And maybe it's time to give it up. 1028 00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:01,119 What do you think about it? 1029 00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:04,199 Speaker 3: Well, well, they're not going anywhere because the network they're 1030 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,079 on bought them specifically to air on the network. So 1031 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,960 you know, that's a pretty good long term investment there. 1032 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,119 As far as the Jay White stuff, I didn't you know, 1033 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:16,880 we didn't really get to see enough to make any 1034 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,039 kind of judgment about it. I'm really going to be 1035 00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:22,280 interested to see what Impacts ratings are Thursday night and 1036 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:29,119 what level of interest this level of New Japan working 1037 00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:32,119 together with Impact to have someone like Jay White on 1038 00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:36,760 the show, how far that gets Impact Wrestling and the 1039 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,960 Impact TV show. In terms of the number of viewers 1040 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:46,159 gained over the usual, they have made gains viewership wise, 1041 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,480 especially in the eighteen to forty nine demographic, especially when 1042 00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:52,239 Kenny Omega is on the show. They have made significant 1043 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,320 gains in pay per view buys when Kenny Omega is 1044 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,639 on the show, So you know they're they're increasing the 1045 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:03,159 money they're bringing in for sure. But ultimately, and I 1046 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,480 think this is where people have a concern is you're 1047 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,039 not gonna have Kenny Omega forever. You know, you may 1048 00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:12,840 be able to work with these companies, but ultimately you 1049 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,039 want to present your wrestlers and your company in a 1050 00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:19,679 way that even if Kenny Omega isn't on the show, 1051 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,440 even if you're not having an active working relationship with 1052 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,840 New Japan, that fans are going to want to watch 1053 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,400 your show for the wrestlers that you offer, for the 1054 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,559 storylines that you offer. And I don't know that we've 1055 00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:32,400 gotten to that point with Impact yet. I think a 1056 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,079 lot of people still tune in to see Kenny Omega 1057 00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:39,280 to see the forbidden door just get blown open with 1058 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,719 New Japan stars and now NWA with thunder Rosa on 1059 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,679 there and Mickey James on there on the pay per view. 1060 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:52,079 So this is a real opportunity for Impact to spotlight 1061 00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:54,519 its own stars and to give fans a reason to 1062 00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:58,119 keep coming back and watching Impact even when the day 1063 00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:00,880 comes that Kenny Omega is non on there, or that 1064 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,760 a bunch of other wrestlers from other companies aren't on there, 1065 00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:05,920 And we just don't know what that's going to look 1066 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,000 like yet because they're still in the midst of working 1067 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,440 with these companies. So I'm sort of trying to give 1068 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,119 them the benefit of the doubt here, but I haven't 1069 00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:18,920 really seen Impact do a lot different in terms of 1070 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,199 pushing wrestlers or the stories that they're telling with their 1071 00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:26,239 own wrestlers to try to get those lukie lose to 1072 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:31,480 stay around for after you know, the post Omega era 1073 00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:35,800 of impact wrestling, so you know, it remains to be seen, 1074 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,920 but it's a story worth tracking. And like you said that, 1075 00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:41,199 the more places people have to work the better. So 1076 00:57:41,239 --> 00:57:44,920 I'm certainly not wishing ill of impact or anything like that, 1077 00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:50,280 but it's something worth monitoring. Darrell. I appreciate you calling 1078 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,039 in and good to hear from you again. 1079 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I'm trying to make sure I reach out 1080 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,920 on most Sundays instead of just these playing view nights, 1081 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,079 but thank you for taking my Callague. I know, like 1082 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,440 me and you, we both I don't know if you 1083 00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:10,760 back in started school yet, but that they had me 1084 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:18,039 as a twelve month employee yet, so it'll teachers in 1085 00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:18,559 the morning. 1086 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's coming soon for me. I think I 1087 00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:24,119 got about two weeks left, so it's it's around the corner. 1088 00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:30,920 But appreciate it, Darrell, Yes, sir, all right, so let's 1089 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,199 go back to our emails. This is from Zach in Texas. 1090 00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:37,280 He says, Greg, the women's matches on this show were 1091 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,840 quite the indictment of WWE's booking throughout the pandemic era. 1092 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,960 The women's money in the bank was rough, the crowd 1093 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:46,320 was in and out on it, the finish was flat. 1094 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,920 Nicki scaling the ladder and grabbing the briefcase while the 1095 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,599 six women continue to fight atop the ladders made those 1096 00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:55,840 six women, particularly the ones nearest Nicki, look like absolute idiots. 1097 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,679 The decision to have Nicki win in and of itself 1098 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:06,920 was puzzling. WWE's goal lost my spot here. WWE's goals 1099 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,039 should be to get the Raw women's title back on 1100 00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,280 the greatest of all time, Becky Lynch asap. Nicki as 1101 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,239 a babyface isn't gonna cash in on Becky, and Becky 1102 00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:18,639 shouldn't lose until WrestleMania. That means Nicky's gonna hold it 1103 00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:22,239 for ten months at least. Speaking of Becky, the Goats 1104 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,079 was the most overperson in the Charlotte Rea match, which 1105 00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:27,960 is proof positive of how badly they botched that feud. 1106 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,559 Ria dropping her second title to Charlotte in fifteen months 1107 00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:34,280 just for Charlotte to be a transitional champion is insulting 1108 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,960 to both women. Ria is owed owed the win over 1109 00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:41,360 Becky at Mania. At this point, the raw women's division 1110 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,400 is a mess, and Becky's likely returned tomorrow cannot comes 1111 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,880 soon enough. So to that, I will say once again, 1112 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,199 I don't think it's automatic that the title goes on 1113 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,719 Becky right away. I don't think you have to do that. 1114 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,480 You can present Becky as the biggest star even if 1115 00:59:56,519 --> 01:00:00,000 she's not champion. WWE has done that with other wrestlers, 1116 01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:03,920 male and female for a long time. As far as 1117 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,239 Ripley being owed a win over Becky Lynch, nobody's owed 1118 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,360 anything in professional wrestling. I think Ripley has been dealt 1119 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,280 a bad hand at times, but that's just the nature 1120 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,480 of the business. Sometimes you're on the wrong end of it. 1121 01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:21,320 I thought that, yes, Becky Lynch was the most overperformer 1122 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,280 in that match at first, but as we've spoken about 1123 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,079 throughout this show, I thought that Riha and Charlotte sort 1124 01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:29,760 of brought the crowd back around by the end of 1125 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,400 the match. So NICKI getting the briefcase and who she 1126 01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:38,239 cashes in on, I think that's you know, if Becky 1127 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,360 comes back tomorrow and doesn't win the title right away, 1128 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,599 I think she's probably gonna win the title down the line. 1129 01:00:47,079 --> 01:00:50,440 So Nicky's opportunity is to really cash it in on 1130 01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:53,320 Charlotte while Charlotte has the title. So that way you 1131 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,039 may see Nicky's cash in come sooner than Big Ease. 1132 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,800 And you know, that's just kind of me reading it. 1133 01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:02,119 He leaves here. That's that's a little bit about how 1134 01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:04,719 I see it. We'll go back to the phones here 1135 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,079 the six two three area code. I believe this is 1136 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:11,880 Brian from Phoenix. Is that correct? Hey? 1137 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,599 Speaker 11: Greg? Yeah, this is Brian from Phoenix Senior. I'm sorry 1138 01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:17,280 thirty years senior PW tows VP subscriber. I hope you 1139 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,039 have a good night and a safe trip tomorrow. 1140 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,719 Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian, and thank you for being such a 1141 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,960 long time subscriber to the Torch. We really appreciate it. 1142 01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,119 Speaker 11: I appreciate your hard work, Greg, and I will keep 1143 01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:29,800 this short because, like you said, I want you to 1144 01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:31,840 get at least an hour or two of sleep. Will 1145 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,159 forget to actually go to the airport. 1146 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be nice. I don't know though, I 1147 01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:37,000 still got a little packing to do. 1148 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 11: Well, You're able to stay up at this brain and 1149 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,079 try to sleep on the plane. 1150 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 3: So I'm a very agree. I'm a very light sleeper, 1151 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,679 so I don't really sleep on planes all that much. 1152 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,239 Although if I'm really tired, which I could be tomorrow morning, 1153 01:01:52,599 --> 01:01:53,920 it might be enough to do the trick. 1154 01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 11: I think so, I think so, I think so good. 1155 01:01:59,679 --> 01:02:01,960 So the first thing I'll talk about again, I'll keep 1156 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,559 all these I'll keep my two points brief is about 1157 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:10,039 Peacock Network, like kept Reverend Keith said, I this is 1158 01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:13,199 the first time, you know, I've had a problem with Peacock. 1159 01:02:13,519 --> 01:02:16,840 I actually go through uh my cable is Cox Communication, 1160 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,480 and we have Peacock Network comes free for Cox Communication customers. 1161 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,559 And this time I watched it through the Cox cable 1162 01:02:25,639 --> 01:02:27,960 box and that way is a little bit clunky to 1163 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,960 get to it, and it's and it's slow, and same 1164 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,239 thing like everybody else. When it had that Applebe's commercials, 1165 01:02:33,239 --> 01:02:35,519 when mine started hiccupping, I said, And then you know, 1166 01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:38,039 by the time we got to the men's interests, men's 1167 01:02:38,039 --> 01:02:40,480 money bank interests, it just got to be trash. I 1168 01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,360 just turned it off and turned it and came back 1169 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,400 on again, and I had a problem. But that was 1170 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,719 really the first time. You know, I'm not a power 1171 01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:49,639 Peacock user. You know, you know I've watched the pay 1172 01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:52,360 per views and everything. But and I watched all of 1173 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,920 the you know, I could talk about the exclusive VIP 1174 01:02:56,119 --> 01:03:01,079 program PW tows NXT eight years back with with Kelly 1175 01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:03,239 and Tollack, and I interrock with that show a lot. 1176 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,880 And I've been watching NXC eight years ago TV shows 1177 01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:10,280 and I had a problem with Peacock at all using 1178 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:10,760 it that way. 1179 01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got Peacock here free with Exfinity. We actually 1180 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,199 don't even have Exfinity cable. We've just got Exfinity Internet 1181 01:03:20,239 --> 01:03:22,199 and they still give it to us for free, which 1182 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,400 is a nice deal. And the only thing I use 1183 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:32,280 it for is is the WWE pay per views. Although 1184 01:03:33,239 --> 01:03:41,239 I have been seeing commercials for a very interesting show 1185 01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:43,679 on Peacock and I can't remember the name of it. 1186 01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:45,400 It's the one that's been advertised all over there with 1187 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,400 Alec Baldwin and Joshua Jackson. 1188 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 11: Doctor Death. 1189 01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:54,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, Doctor Death. I knew it was the Doctor Something. Yeah, 1190 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,280 that looks really good, so I'd like to check that out. 1191 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,960 But to this point, I've only used Peacock for wrestling, 1192 01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:02,119 and like I said, I've not had a problem with 1193 01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:06,039 it going through the Roku box that we have. So 1194 01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:12,360 tonight was the first major issue I had and it 1195 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,960 wasn't just me, so that that's reassuring to me. 1196 01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 12: Ay stuff, do you ever watch a WWE and think 1197 01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:20,440 it used to be better? 1198 01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 13: I don't know, josh Sometimes I think it used to 1199 01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:23,480 be a whole lot worse. 1200 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 12: I mean, whether it's WrestleMania main. 1201 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,159 Speaker 13: Events, old dudes at the. 1202 01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 12: Top, too many titles. 1203 01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:30,119 Speaker 13: Or women's wrestling. 1204 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,119 Speaker 12: We're here to answer the big question, is it worse 1205 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:33,880 or better? 1206 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:34,239 Speaker 3: Now? 1207 01:04:34,679 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 12: Join me Joshua. 1208 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 13: White and me Stephanie Cheese. 1209 01:04:38,039 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 12: For Worse or Better part of the pw torch Daily 1210 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,199 castline I'm dropping on Monday nights. 1211 01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:46,199 Speaker 13: Such pw torch in your podcast apps such as Apple 1212 01:04:46,239 --> 01:04:49,679 Podcasts or Spotify to subscribe for free or get a 1213 01:04:49,679 --> 01:04:53,559 commercial free version with the pw torch VIP membership. Check 1214 01:04:53,559 --> 01:04:57,000 out pw torch dot com slash go vip for details 1215 01:04:57,039 --> 01:04:58,280 and going vip. 1216 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 12: Worse or Better Finally something for wrestling fans to do 1217 01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:02,599 on Monday nights. 1218 01:05:05,519 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, Like like Reverend said, yeah, and you said as well, 1219 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,719 like the internet did blow or an Internet tutter did 1220 01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:12,440 actually blow up. 1221 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 3: Because of that. 1222 01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:14,559 Speaker 11: So my question is I always like to keep it 1223 01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:16,800 with the pre show and this pre show match was 1224 01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:19,280 a little more important than the majority of pre show 1225 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,239 matches that we have, and with so with Dominic and 1226 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,239 Raymonds Stereo going up against the USOS, I was a 1227 01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:29,199 little you know, I never really surprised surprise when a 1228 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,000 title changes hands because to me, I always the way 1229 01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:34,199 I look at wrestling greg is that there's always to 1230 01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:37,719 me a little bit of twins that something could change, 1231 01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:40,880 you know, like I was sure that, you know, Romean 1232 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,480 was gonna beat Edge, and I was sure that Bobby 1233 01:05:42,519 --> 01:05:44,440 Bobby last she was going to be Kope Kingston. But 1234 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,159 still there's that little bit of doubt that could happen there. 1235 01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:51,559 And I've always definitely been my wrestling fandom, so as little, 1236 01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:53,239 I will admit I was a little bit surprised that 1237 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,760 the usso's did win, but I knew they had a 1238 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,320 good chance because to care along with the storyline, I 1239 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,920 did like Rand Dominic being champ being champs, and I 1240 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,119 do like how Dominic has have progressed in you know, 1241 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,760 the less than a year that he's really been on 1242 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,679 TV actually wrestling. So I was gonna my question was 1243 01:06:11,719 --> 01:06:13,559 going to originally be what would be next up for 1244 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,599 you know, the next uh, people challenged the Ussols, but 1245 01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:19,280 it looks like it's going to be mysterios because how 1246 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,320 they helped out Edge when when the Usseles came out, 1247 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,320 they helped Roman Raine during the during the main ement, 1248 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,920 the main event, So to where do you see the 1249 01:06:29,199 --> 01:06:32,599 usle going next besides Ray and Dominic Mysterio. 1250 01:06:33,679 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 3: It did kind of feel like the Ussols almost had 1251 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,920 to win because you should only be able to try 1252 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,119 and fail so many times before you know there's punishment 1253 01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:45,679 from Roman Reigns, right because he is so big on 1254 01:06:46,679 --> 01:06:50,000 the USO's not embarrassing the family, and he equates losing 1255 01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:54,280 to embarrassing the family, which is embarrassing him. So you 1256 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,880 know he's made that speech to Jay and to a 1257 01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,320 lesser extent, Jimmy so many times that you almost feel like, Okay, 1258 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,519 if they keep losing, eventually, something's got to happen. The 1259 01:07:02,639 --> 01:07:05,159 Robbert's gotta hit the road here with with what they 1260 01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:10,079 talk about. So it's you understand them them winning the 1261 01:07:10,159 --> 01:07:16,000 titles and appeasing Roman Reigns that way, but yeah, I 1262 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,159 it gives them a little more gravitas when they interact 1263 01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:23,760 with John Cena, and you know John Cena interacting with 1264 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,800 Roman Reigns, and now he's not just interacting with Roman 1265 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,360 Reigns the Universal Champion, he's interacting with the ushos or 1266 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,920 tag champs. So that puts them you know, they're gonna 1267 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,840 be seen on more YouTube videos because the interacting with 1268 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,280 John Sena is gonna get you you viewed by more people. 1269 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,239 So why not put the tag titles on them and 1270 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,440 make them seem like important stars to the people who 1271 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,400 may not follow smack Down every week or at all, 1272 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,360 but are checking back in because John Scene is involved. 1273 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,519 So that could be a little bit of the psychology 1274 01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:54,119 behind the titles changing hands. 1275 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 11: To and you know, Greg, I am going to let 1276 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,559 you go, but you've actually made a really good point 1277 01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:01,320 that I think of until you just said it, is 1278 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,360 that the interesting part is going to be how many 1279 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,920 dates Scene is going to be around, because you know, 1280 01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:08,840 I know that I believe I reach somebody saying that 1281 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,559 one of the house show, one of the house shows, 1282 01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:13,079 one of the house show matches that was announcement was 1283 01:08:13,199 --> 01:08:17,840 like was Roman and Usos versus Edge and the Mysterios 1284 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,840 as a as a six man touched for a six 1285 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,800 man match for one of for one of the house shows. 1286 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,319 But I can easily see edge being taken out of 1287 01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:29,399 that to the few with Seth and then bringing Seena 1288 01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:30,760 and so I think to me, it's gonna be interesting 1289 01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:34,520 conversation or interesting discussion conversation. But how many day Sena 1290 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,800 has you know? Is he gonna be on TV every week? 1291 01:08:37,079 --> 01:08:37,279 Speaker 3: You know? 1292 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 11: I really doubt it, but you never know. So, and 1293 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,840 I could see him having a TV match against one 1294 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,439 one of the USOS or maybe that six man touch 1295 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:49,159 on six man match on TV right before SummerSlam with 1296 01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:53,159 the with the Masterials against Roman Reigns and USOS. So, Greg, 1297 01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:54,760 if you want to speak about that, I appreciate it, 1298 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,039 but I'll go ahead and let you go. Again. I 1299 01:08:56,079 --> 01:08:58,319 hope you have a safe trip. Hopefully you enjoy I 1300 01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:01,279 know you will enjoy being your family again. Always appreciate 1301 01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:04,119 all your hard work. Everybody listen to me. Please go VIP. 1302 01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:06,880 You won't regret it. Like I said, I've been the 1303 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,159 IP member since February of nineteen ninety one and have 1304 01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:12,520 enjoyed it all this time since then. Thanks a lot 1305 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,079 as always, Greg, I really appreciate it. 1306 01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:16,159 Speaker 3: Excellent. Thank you, Brian, and you can go to PW 1307 01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,199 Torch dot com slash go vip if you want to 1308 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,680 get all of the audio shows ad free. The newsletter 1309 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,600 each and every week. A lot of good stuff there 1310 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,960 for p tow Torch members for those who are interested 1311 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,279 in this sort of thing. I'm on Twitter as I'm 1312 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,960 doing the show, scrolling through, and I just scrolled up 1313 01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:42,039 to an ad about doctor death on the Peacock Network 1314 01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:47,239 on my Twitter feed, so my phone obviously is listening 1315 01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:51,479 closely to what I'm saying here. But yeah, the number 1316 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,880 of dates John Cena has I think you know, you 1317 01:09:54,039 --> 01:09:58,479 come away from this this show saying, okay, John Cena 1318 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:03,720 versus Roman Rains Summers Slam Dunk, But do you do 1319 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,399 a six man tag? Is that's there for the taking 1320 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,159 as well? Do you try to pop a rating on 1321 01:10:10,319 --> 01:10:13,680 SmackDown and have John Cena wrestle prior to Summer Slam 1322 01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:17,600 in a six man tag with the mysterios against Rains 1323 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:22,560 and the USO's. I think you know, if you're WWE, 1324 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,039 you probably want to hold off and just having appear 1325 01:10:26,119 --> 01:10:30,680 on SmackDown might be big enough to keep Fox at 1326 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,159 bay and not ask too much. But you know, you 1327 01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:35,880 also have to look at the potential that Fox is 1328 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,000 gonna say, hey, we want him to wrestle. Ratings have 1329 01:10:39,079 --> 01:10:42,640 been down a little bit, so maybe seen wrestling pops 1330 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,880 are rating, but that all depends on how many dates 1331 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,920 he's aboard for. So to the email, it's got two 1332 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,880 more to go, got one more phone call to go. 1333 01:10:52,119 --> 01:10:54,359 So I appreciate everybody hanging on late into the night. 1334 01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:58,640 If you're listening live. This is Roy from California's second email. 1335 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:03,119 This is about anniversary and Money in the Bank. He says, Hello, Greg, 1336 01:11:03,199 --> 01:11:05,000 wanted to try to get an email in before you 1337 01:11:05,039 --> 01:11:07,600 go on live. I'm writing this during the main event 1338 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,720 of Money in the Bank. Had a few topics I 1339 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,079 wanted to share as well as get your thoughts on. 1340 01:11:12,399 --> 01:11:14,520 I'll try to run through them quickly. First, I thought 1341 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,279 Money in the Bank pay per view was great for 1342 01:11:16,319 --> 01:11:19,479 a B level pay per view. Thought Lashley's dominance over 1343 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,479 Kolfie really added another dimension to his character and his reign, 1344 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,960 and feel like Rain's a new star could be created 1345 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,720 dethroning him. Thought Charlotte was incredible and that's why she 1346 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,520 gets the push she does. Was happy with both Money 1347 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,319 and the Bank winners and Big E and Nikki. I 1348 01:11:35,319 --> 01:11:38,359 think with such strong heeled champions currently holding titles. There 1349 01:11:38,359 --> 01:11:42,000 are great babyfaces that could be champion. Lastly, I cheered 1350 01:11:42,039 --> 01:11:43,960 when Gender and Company took Drew out of the match. 1351 01:11:44,359 --> 01:11:47,119 Really think true after the Gender stuff, should revisit Seamus 1352 01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:49,319 in Battle for the US title. Overall, a great pay 1353 01:11:49,359 --> 01:11:53,800 per view from WWE. My other comment was regarding Impact 1354 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,880 Slammiversary event. I read the results versus watching it, and 1355 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,239 it seemed like it was a good show. My thing 1356 01:11:59,239 --> 01:12:01,439 with them is the as they generate seems to be 1357 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,520 from outsiders, not their own roster. I'm unfamiliar with Jay White, 1358 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,399 but I think having him appear in a ligne with 1359 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,000 an Impact guy would do wonders compared to what they 1360 01:12:10,079 --> 01:12:13,479 ended up doing. I'm dumbfounded why Moose doesn't get the ball. 1361 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,760 I question if more people will tune in when there's 1362 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,920 a strong possibility that people who appeared could possibly appear 1363 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,520 on Dynamite. Just my thoughts. Sorry for the long wind, 1364 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,119 Take care, Thank you, Roy. Yeah, that's sort of what 1365 01:12:25,159 --> 01:12:27,319 we talked about a little earlier in terms of Impact 1366 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:34,560 and you know, drawing fans in by using whether it's 1367 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,479 Kenny Omega from AW or thunder Rosa Slash, Mickey James 1368 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,239 from the NWA, or Jay White from New Japan or 1369 01:12:42,319 --> 01:12:45,960 Kojima from New Japan, who they had in the last tapings. 1370 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,680 But for these main guys, and I think Omega's doing 1371 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,960 it to a certain extent, although he's winning all these matches. 1372 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,039 You know, he beat Rich Swan, he beat Moose, he 1373 01:12:55,159 --> 01:12:58,439 beat Sammy Callahan last night or two nights ago rather 1374 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,199 and it's two nights ago. I guess we're past the 1375 01:13:02,279 --> 01:13:06,680 rubicon here on the East Coast into Monday morning. But 1376 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,279 eventually Kenny Omega is gonna have to lose that Impact title. 1377 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,279 How he loses it, who he loses it to is 1378 01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:14,479 gonna really say a lot, you know, If he loses 1379 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,760 it to an AW guy who then loses it to 1380 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,319 an impact guy, I don't think that speaks very well 1381 01:13:19,359 --> 01:13:22,680 for Impact. But who else on the impact roster is 1382 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,319 gonna lose it to? You know? Do they circle back 1383 01:13:24,359 --> 01:13:27,119 around to Rich Swan at some point and have him 1384 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,159 dethrone Kenny Omega. I don't know, But yeah, j White 1385 01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:34,800 coming to confront Kenny Omega as opposed to coming to 1386 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,920 confront an impact wrestler. I think you could make the 1387 01:13:38,039 --> 01:13:41,920 argument it would be better. But you know, this is 1388 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,960 this involves all three companies now, so I think maybe 1389 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,680 that's what they were going for. The buzz of Jay 1390 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,560 White from New Japan confronting Kenny Omega from AW on 1391 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:59,399 an Impact show. Not quite you know, WCW's wrestler losing 1392 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,800 the East CW title on an ECW show to a 1393 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,880 WWE wrestler, But I guess it could be construed as 1394 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,119 something similar and maybe that's where they hope to get 1395 01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:10,880 the buzz for. But again, if your Impact, you use 1396 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,960 the buzz to attract fans, but when you attract them 1397 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,439 to your TV show or to your pay per views, 1398 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,439 you've got to offer something different than what you've been offering. 1399 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,880 Because what you've been offering is not working. It's not 1400 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,920 getting the eyeballs. So why you would do the same 1401 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,800 thing with more eyeballs unless you just think people haven't 1402 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,079 had the opportunity for some reason to check out your product, 1403 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,960 I don't know. And I think that goes back to 1404 01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:39,239 what Impact is trying to be Philosophically, what what does 1405 01:14:39,279 --> 01:14:42,680 Impact want to be? You know what kind of company 1406 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,880 is it? I think we know what WWE is, we 1407 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,399 know what AW is, but Impact is still missing that identity, 1408 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,000 especially now that they're no longer number two. We used 1409 01:14:52,039 --> 01:14:54,720 to be able to say, well, they're the alternative to WWE, 1410 01:14:55,239 --> 01:14:58,680 and that's not really true anymore. You know, AW is 1411 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,880 the alternative, it's the number two now undisputed. So what 1412 01:15:03,079 --> 01:15:06,359 is impacts Niche and I think that's where they're really 1413 01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:07,239 having difficulty. 1414 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 1: You know, that last segment you're just listening to and 1415 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,960 the next one that you're waiting to listen to, those 1416 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,479 can be one second apart. 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Go 1425 01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:43,039 to pw torch dot com slash go vip for full 1426 01:15:43,079 --> 01:15:45,920 details on all the options to listen commercial free and 1427 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,279 with upper tier options unlock our VIP exclusive podcasts run 1428 01:15:50,319 --> 01:15:51,399 throughout the week every week. 1429 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 3: Back to the phones. Our final call for the evening 1430 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,560 is the three one two area code. I'm thinking this 1431 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,159 is Boris from Chicago. 1432 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,119 Speaker 5: Yes, his voice was Chicago. 1433 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 3: You you called in on the John Cena return night. 1434 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,439 This must be your dream. John Cena was Roman Reigns. 1435 01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:15,359 Speaker 14: Hey, I am so excited for this return. I couldn't 1436 01:16:15,359 --> 01:16:18,840 believe it that James carl Will returned to Double. 1437 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,359 Speaker 3: If only then it would be like old times. 1438 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,239 Speaker 5: Right, I got you, I got you. But he did return. 1439 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 14: James return, Well, he did. 1440 01:16:29,079 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 3: He did a he did an audio with Wade last 1441 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,680 summer for me. I know, I love hearing him. 1442 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 15: No, no, no, he actually returned recently. 1443 01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:46,039 Speaker 6: Really you didn't You didn't hear the podcast yet. 1444 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 3: I heard the podcast he did with Wade the last summer. 1445 01:16:50,359 --> 01:16:52,800 I didn't hear any he did recently. But this is recent. 1446 01:16:53,039 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 14: Okay, this is recent. 1447 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 3: I'll checking. 1448 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,600 Speaker 5: He was he was a correspondent. 1449 01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:03,800 Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, he. 1450 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,079 Speaker 5: Was a correspondent for Houston. 1451 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:10,159 Speaker 3: See that, Greg, You're more on the ball than I am. 1452 01:17:10,279 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 6: And you off with the excitement. 1453 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,800 Speaker 15: I was trying to throw you off with the excitement 1454 01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:18,239 for someone returned to wrestling, and you put Tina and. 1455 01:17:18,199 --> 01:17:21,840 Speaker 5: I put James. But I well, to be honest as 1456 01:17:22,399 --> 01:17:23,520 a correspondent. 1457 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,359 Speaker 3: As excited I was for John Cena's return, I'm more 1458 01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:29,600 excited about James's limited return. 1459 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:31,680 Speaker 5: Oh it was awesome. 1460 01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:37,199 Speaker 14: Yeah, because that's a great perspective, you know, for a 1461 01:17:37,239 --> 01:17:38,119 person that's been. 1462 01:17:38,079 --> 01:17:39,800 Speaker 5: Gone a while from it. 1463 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,319 Speaker 15: And it was a great perspective because, like I said, 1464 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:47,159 I don't watch it per se. I listened to everybody's show, 1465 01:17:48,079 --> 01:17:50,439 and then I just see where we're at, you know, 1466 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,279 and like I say, the thing, the wow craziness with impact. 1467 01:17:54,399 --> 01:17:59,840 I'm willing to accept impact because it's something different and 1468 01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:02,239 and I'm I'm I'm gonna look at it from this 1469 01:18:02,399 --> 01:18:05,119 point with some impacted conversity. 1470 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:06,760 Speaker 5: Until they build. 1471 01:18:07,039 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 14: They start to stop these these other wrestlers was coming 1472 01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:11,960 in and taking over. 1473 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,039 Speaker 6: They should continue to take over because that's a story. 1474 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,600 Speaker 15: In itself that they don't have a person that they 1475 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,640 built to defend off all these guys coming in, you know. 1476 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:23,319 Speaker 3: But should. 1477 01:18:25,319 --> 01:18:30,159 Speaker 14: Let's start, Yeah, and today don't. That's That's why I'm in. 1478 01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,920 That's why you listen to what I'm saying. That's what 1479 01:18:33,039 --> 01:18:35,920 I mean because until they truly build somebody, this is 1480 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:36,319 what this. 1481 01:18:36,319 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 3: Is not w W. 1482 01:18:37,239 --> 01:18:40,399 Speaker 5: We know, like you said, we know what w is 1483 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:40,840 gonna do. 1484 01:18:41,359 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 14: That's why Romans on top still, and that's why Sharlotte's 1485 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:44,840 on top. 1486 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 15: But the only problem with that is that Beac Lynch 1487 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,000 is the Achilles heel. 1488 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,119 Speaker 5: And we don't have a We don't have a male. 1489 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:58,079 Speaker 15: Wrestler to to uh stop Roman rings right now because 1490 01:18:58,119 --> 01:19:00,439 they really don't have one they you know, as long 1491 01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,800 as Bacon Lynch is active, she's gonna beat the Dannie Bryant. 1492 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,800 You know, we don't have a day of Brian wouldn't 1493 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,960 have a skim pump for the mail side. 1494 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:08,760 Speaker 5: But we have a Becky Lynch. 1495 01:19:09,159 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 15: So no matter who that belt is on, Bacon Lynch 1496 01:19:12,079 --> 01:19:15,880 will always be a threat because she's for the fans period. 1497 01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,239 Speaker 5: So we don't have that on the Mail side. 1498 01:19:18,039 --> 01:19:20,319 Speaker 15: Yet until they decide who they really want to get 1499 01:19:20,319 --> 01:19:23,399 to hide to. Actually you know, take the belt off 1500 01:19:23,399 --> 01:19:26,159 on the range, but with impact. It's the same thing, 1501 01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:29,439 but in a different flavor. We got other promotions coming 1502 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,399 in and get to you know, have their way. This 1503 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,520 is the story I'm allowing myself to think, you know, 1504 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,560 but I'm liking that until they build someone to beat 1505 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,520 these guys, they get the wrong run side. 1506 01:19:42,119 --> 01:19:44,520 Speaker 6: So they mean, you get to Jay Whites to come in, you. 1507 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,159 Speaker 14: Get all these different people from different fractions. 1508 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,520 Speaker 6: To come in until and that's the story. 1509 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,079 Speaker 5: And it goes back and forth with a. 1510 01:19:52,279 --> 01:19:54,640 Speaker 6: Like I said, with Adew and all these things. 1511 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,079 Speaker 14: But I do have something that I did get excited 1512 01:19:58,119 --> 01:20:01,720 for her Davey Boyd Smith j he is that. 1513 01:20:01,039 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 5: That could be. 1514 01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,720 Speaker 14: That could be that I don't gonna say that could 1515 01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:07,880 So I did get excited when I saw that. 1516 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,520 Speaker 6: I was like because and that's. 1517 01:20:09,359 --> 01:20:12,039 Speaker 15: Sad to say that someone that was built outside of 1518 01:20:12,079 --> 01:20:17,279 this company makes you excited, because how how is you 1519 01:20:18,279 --> 01:20:22,159 can't really treat him like the like the in house. 1520 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:26,079 Speaker 14: Because I'm sure, I'm sure in his contract there he is. 1521 01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:30,319 He got gestipulate that he gets to speak for himself 1522 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,039 and he's not gonna be tightly scripted, you know. 1523 01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 15: You know, this is what I'm looking forward to with him, 1524 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,720 because I think he knows better. And you gotta come 1525 01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,840 in and you coming in at the top, you know 1526 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,439 what I'm saying. So I'm excited for that. And what 1527 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,680 if that does happen, you know what I'm saying. 1528 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,600 Speaker 14: So I'll just sit back and continue watching these other 1529 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:54,279 guys until we see uh, what position they would during 1530 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,760 they they I just call him David boy What position they're. 1531 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,359 Speaker 5: Gonna put him in? Because I was surprised for him 1532 01:21:00,359 --> 01:21:01,199 to retire. 1533 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,399 Speaker 14: With the way this comedy is, and you have to 1534 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,119 you really had to want to be here just because 1535 01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:14,439 you see, this company ain't built anybody. M So what 1536 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,560 do you think about David Boyd. We'll start with that. 1537 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm intrigued. He wrestled a dark match before SmackDown on 1538 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,840 Friday night. I know there had been talk that he 1539 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,119 he'd been in talks actually for quite a while I 1540 01:21:25,159 --> 01:21:29,640 think of coming back. I'm actually took this long for 1541 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,560 him to return, But you know, he he had a 1542 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:38,319 run earlier, very young, very early in his career, and 1543 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,520 you know, wasn't a tag team was a very good 1544 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:45,119 tag team wrestler in WWE, just didn't have the personality 1545 01:21:45,239 --> 01:21:50,720 really breakthrough. So I'm really intrigued this time around he's 1546 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,119 become a lot more well rounded in terms of being 1547 01:21:53,159 --> 01:21:55,760 a wrestler. He's been able to work on that that 1548 01:21:55,920 --> 01:22:00,000 personality and work on you know, exuding a little more 1549 01:22:00,199 --> 01:22:04,439 charisma in places like MLW and overseas and things like that. 1550 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,800 So I am interested to see how much of that 1551 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,159 is really, how much of that he brings to the 1552 01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:16,039 table now in w W, and how different he's going 1553 01:22:16,119 --> 01:22:18,680 to be in this run versus what he was several 1554 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:19,199 years ago. 1555 01:22:20,119 --> 01:22:24,359 Speaker 14: And like I said, Grell, he kind of a lot 1556 01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:27,239 of stuff that I was thinking about. And like I said, 1557 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:33,359 with the women, Nikki is the oldest. You know what 1558 01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:36,760 I'm saying, Nicki is the oldest. You know, just keep 1559 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,520 it simple. And like I said, Goldberg, wherever he fifteen. 1560 01:22:41,079 --> 01:22:43,720 You know, we haven't seen this before, so it doesn't matter. 1561 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,880 So we just waiting, were waiting on a truth contender 1562 01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:47,920 and just the placeholder. 1563 01:22:48,279 --> 01:22:50,640 Speaker 6: And even with Ron Lank, anybody just stepped in front 1564 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:50,960 of him. 1565 01:22:51,039 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 5: All these people are placeholders. 1566 01:22:53,039 --> 01:22:57,079 Speaker 15: Like I said, whoever, whoever the champions is, and whoever 1567 01:22:57,079 --> 01:23:00,920 they put in that if he's a return turning character 1568 01:23:01,079 --> 01:23:04,840 that hasn't been built to actually excite the crowd. 1569 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 5: This is just a placeholder. 1570 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,600 Speaker 14: Just put him in there, and it was a placeholder. 1571 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,800 So you know, we're just making up stuff as we 1572 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,359 go until we get someone that's actually credible. 1573 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,199 Speaker 15: And right now, David Boy is credible because. 1574 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,560 Speaker 14: He's not here, He's not from w W, He's coming 1575 01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:21,399 from the outside. 1576 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,720 Speaker 5: He didn't train and did all these things. 1577 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,399 Speaker 15: So hopefully let's throw this and that he doesn't get 1578 01:23:27,399 --> 01:23:30,039 the treatment of what's his name because I just gave 1579 01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:32,840 up on him too and put him with swords and 1580 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:40,760 all this mythical whatever. Drew McIntyre came back solid character 1581 01:23:41,079 --> 01:23:42,720 and they. 1582 01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:44,279 Speaker 6: Can't even sustain him. 1583 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,119 Speaker 3: Well, they sustained him for so long that people got 1584 01:23:48,119 --> 01:23:51,039 tired of him. You know. The reaction tonight was not 1585 01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:55,560 very positive, but I think that's more of WWE's booking 1586 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,640 of him than Drew McIntyre himself, because he really carried 1587 01:23:59,079 --> 01:24:01,399 WWE like head that through the pandemic era with his 1588 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,920 entering work and and being champion, and hey, somebody needed 1589 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,000 to do it, you know, somebody had his shoulder that 1590 01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:11,680 load and be the champion and be the star during 1591 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,319 the most difficult era that ww he has probably been 1592 01:24:15,359 --> 01:24:20,319 through for a lot of different reasons. So hopefully, you know, 1593 01:24:20,399 --> 01:24:22,920 it's not like he has the stench of being the 1594 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:27,359 pandemic champion on him. Hopefully WWE decision makers don't see that. 1595 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,359 But you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens when 1596 01:24:30,359 --> 01:24:33,920 he beats through. H Sorry, Ginger Mahal, you know, does 1597 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,720 he go to SmackDown and does he confront falls? Right? 1598 01:24:39,159 --> 01:24:40,680 Speaker 5: Greg falls right there? 1599 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,640 Speaker 14: You just said Ginger Maha. 1600 01:24:44,359 --> 01:24:46,399 Speaker 6: That's the last. 1601 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,199 Speaker 14: Person on his roster that you want to get, that 1602 01:24:49,319 --> 01:24:50,680 you want to get paired with. 1603 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,319 Speaker 6: And you know how the fans feel about this guy. 1604 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 15: It's like it's like it's like you automatically just build 1605 01:24:57,399 --> 01:25:01,760 Doug his grave and he's okay, you know, he. 1606 01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 14: Did all his work and then to pare him with 1607 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,000 to pare him with Ginger mahogs. 1608 01:25:11,319 --> 01:25:14,239 Speaker 3: You don't see that as well. I see it as 1609 01:25:14,279 --> 01:25:17,880 the upside being that this isn't you know, this is 1610 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,560 an easy feud win for Drew McIntyre because right now 1611 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,039 he's in a tough way. He's lost to Bobby Lashley, 1612 01:25:25,399 --> 01:25:28,520 he's lost his title, he's sort of meandering. He can't 1613 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,079 keep challenging for the title and keep losing, so he 1614 01:25:31,159 --> 01:25:33,399 needs something to do. Ah, here's a feud with the 1615 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,560 guy Ginger Mahal. Yes, it's further down the card, but 1616 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,399 it's a few that Drew McIntyre can win, and can 1617 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,920 win resoundingly and then maybe he can use that to 1618 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,720 screw board off into SmackDown and maybe face Roman reigns. 1619 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,960 So that's the only that's the positive I'm trying to 1620 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,199 take from it. If you're a Drew McIntyre fan, is 1621 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,319 this could help him get his mojo back and all 1622 01:25:55,359 --> 01:25:58,119 of a sudden boom, once the Mahaal feud is over, 1623 01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,399 he's back. He's got that credit back that he's missing 1624 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,319 right now a little bit, and maybe move to SmackDown 1625 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:09,640 sort of freshens him up. And maybe a date with 1626 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,960 Roman Range is not of the realm of possibility. 1627 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:15,359 Speaker 2: Admit it. 1628 01:26:15,399 --> 01:26:17,239 Speaker 1: You love Nick Barbatty when he co hosts with me 1629 01:26:17,279 --> 01:26:19,279 on the Wadekeller Post Shows. Well, now you can listen 1630 01:26:19,319 --> 01:26:21,880 to him every week on The Nicky's Club, a VIP 1631 01:26:22,039 --> 01:26:24,319 exclusive podcast. Here's Nick to tell you more. 1632 01:26:24,399 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 16: Hey, wrestling fans, It's Nick Barbatty and I'm back with 1633 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,000 the Nicky's Club, the place where the family of Nicky's 1634 01:26:29,039 --> 01:26:31,880 comes together for big laughs and sharp takes on WWE 1635 01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,960 for WrestleMania rumors, to surprise returns. I got you covered, 1636 01:26:35,039 --> 01:26:37,319 the Nicky's Club, where the wrestling feels like the coolest 1637 01:26:37,319 --> 01:26:37,880 club in town. 1638 01:26:38,039 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 1: Nick Barbatty wants to be part of your pro wrestling 1639 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,800 life every week, So why not let him go vip 1640 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,319 pw torch dot com slash go vip for full details 1641 01:26:46,319 --> 01:26:49,840 on signing up. We're compatible with patreons, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 1642 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,279 and just about any other iOS or Android app out there. 1643 01:26:52,279 --> 01:26:55,039 You also stream directly from our ad free VIP website, 1644 01:26:55,079 --> 01:26:57,560 The Nicky's Club waiting for you every week at pw 1645 01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:58,399 Torch vip. 1646 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,520 Speaker 15: One more thing, Greg, And I'm gonna let you go, 1647 01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,199 and I hope I might. I'm gonna try to call 1648 01:27:06,279 --> 01:27:09,000 it tomorrow, but I definitely won't be watching three hours. 1649 01:27:09,279 --> 01:27:11,520 Speaker 3: Tomorrow's my birthday, Oh, happy birthday. 1650 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,479 Speaker 14: But I will try to call in, Yeah, I will, 1651 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,800 because you know, I will try to call it. But 1652 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,960 I had my friend, which is she's a non wrestling fan, 1653 01:27:21,039 --> 01:27:23,520 but she has watched New Japan with me and stuff 1654 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,359 like that. So when I told her that there's a pay, 1655 01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,279 there's a wrestling paper all the day, and I said, 1656 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,159 I told her it was money in the bank, and 1657 01:27:30,199 --> 01:27:31,479 I told her to participant. 1658 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,199 Speaker 5: And I told her that knockerm Mortar was one, and. 1659 01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:38,560 Speaker 14: Do you realize it toughed me to She said, oh 1660 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:39,760 didn't they bury him? 1661 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:46,159 Speaker 15: Oh my god, isn't there something to say that she 1662 01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:47,800 knew him from New Japan. 1663 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,520 Speaker 14: And when I spoke about where he was, which I 1664 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,520 don't watch, but but the first thing came my mouth, 1665 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:56,640 didn't they bury him? 1666 01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:58,960 Speaker 6: I was like wow, I was try. 1667 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,960 Speaker 5: What do you think about that? Not wrestler things? They 1668 01:28:02,079 --> 01:28:02,720 only watching? 1669 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:08,479 Speaker 15: Student as of another person realize enough that she mentioned 1670 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,279 a guy that she watched wrestle with me, you know 1671 01:28:12,319 --> 01:28:13,600 through the New Japan part. 1672 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,000 Speaker 6: If she said did they bury him? 1673 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,800 Speaker 5: I was like, wow, what do you think about that? 1674 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:20,039 Speaker 7: Great? 1675 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,680 Speaker 3: That's interesting. You know. I guess if you're only if 1676 01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,520 you only watch New Japan, that's gonna be kind of 1677 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,720 you know. I I don't know how much this person, 1678 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,560 you know, follows New Japan online and and talks with 1679 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,640 other fans of New Japan online. But certainly if you 1680 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,840 are strictly a New Japan fan and you see what 1681 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,479 WW has done in Nakamura, you know, the scuttle But 1682 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,680 amongst New Japan fans is going to be oh, they 1683 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,560 buried him. I mean, look at look at it what 1684 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,600 he was in New Japan, look at what he could be, 1685 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,960 look at what he is now in WWE. You know, 1686 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,640 if you're a New Japan fan, that's going to be 1687 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,399 your perspective, So you know, I can't believe. I can't 1688 01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:03,920 be all that surprised by that, but I think that's 1689 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,279 h that's a sad. It's sad that that fans see 1690 01:29:07,319 --> 01:29:10,000 it that way, although you know w W E has 1691 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,840 done nothing with him to dissuade fans from seeing it 1692 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,399 that way. You know, w W has brought a lot 1693 01:29:14,399 --> 01:29:15,199 of that on itself. 1694 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:22,199 Speaker 15: Yeah, well, I'm gonna try to I will definitely. I 1695 01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:25,840 know it would be another another show. By the way, 1696 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,359 when is Wayne gonna be his shake up because he's 1697 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:28,920 changing the. 1698 01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,159 Speaker 5: Shoulder just about that time? Yet when I enjoyed these 1699 01:29:32,199 --> 01:29:34,840 because it makes an interesting thing, just chake up he 1700 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,039 does WAYE does his take up to the shows and 1701 01:29:37,079 --> 01:29:39,960 the times and stuff. So I'm wondered, is it time 1702 01:29:40,119 --> 01:29:41,039 or we still. 1703 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,640 Speaker 3: Got some I can barely keep track of my own show, Boris, 1704 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,840 I'm not sure what was a show? 1705 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,960 Speaker 14: I know you would have touched by because I'll stay 1706 01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:56,359 up sometimes just just to have a conversation with you know, 1707 01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,640 because I missed I missed you know, the way it 1708 01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,960 would back in the day when I first came on 1709 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,520 board and learned, you know, I met all you guys 1710 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,119 and stuff, like that, so I do miss how it 1711 01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:10,600 was really grouping. And then Wade had to do the 1712 01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,640 change up, and you know, it separates the times and 1713 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,319 people get different jobs and stuff. 1714 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,479 Speaker 6: But I know where you at until he change you, 1715 01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:19,640 and I'll come in. 1716 01:30:20,119 --> 01:30:21,439 Speaker 5: I'll come in and find. 1717 01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:24,000 Speaker 15: You and just to have a conversation whether I'm watching 1718 01:30:24,039 --> 01:30:26,439 wrestling or not, you know, what the what the what 1719 01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:26,960 you like? 1720 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:28,279 Speaker 5: Like tonight, I watched it, but I just. 1721 01:30:28,199 --> 01:30:29,880 Speaker 14: Called it because I wanted to just coup with you, 1722 01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:30,720 all right, you know. 1723 01:30:31,159 --> 01:30:35,880 Speaker 5: Just because we like a family. Yeah, So hopefully. 1724 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,079 Speaker 14: Like I'm like Drail, I'm gonna try tune it on Sunday, 1725 01:30:39,119 --> 01:30:39,920 just just to be. 1726 01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,720 Speaker 3: A void appreciate it. Boris, I'm a creature of having 1727 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,359 so I'm gonna fight any changes. I'm I'm someone who 1728 01:30:47,359 --> 01:30:50,000 doesn't like change, so I'm gonna try and stick to 1729 01:30:50,039 --> 01:30:52,680 this time slot as long as I can. Thanks for calling, Boris. 1730 01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:53,479 Always good to talk. 1731 01:30:53,399 --> 01:30:56,279 Speaker 15: To you, no problem. 1732 01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:00,399 Speaker 3: And our final email question of the evening comes from 1733 01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:08,520 drum Roll. Please Okay, let's see it is Jason, and 1734 01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,479 Jason says, Hi, Greg, I'm not at all surprised the 1735 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,199 USOS won the tag titles. It's the best move for 1736 01:31:14,319 --> 01:31:17,520 WWE as far as their current stories go. The criticism 1737 01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:22,000 of Jimmy being quote rewarded after another DUI is completely fair, 1738 01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:24,520 and I'm not saying it's right, but WWE's ethics and 1739 01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:28,520 morals affected. But if WWE's ethics and morals affected how 1740 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,159 I viewed their product, I would have checked out a 1741 01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:33,399 very long time ago. Being a WWE fan certainly teaches 1742 01:31:33,399 --> 01:31:36,640 one to compartmentalize on a week to week basis. I'm 1743 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,880 far more excited to watch aw but tonight was a 1744 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,000 flex from WWE. When they're firing on all cylinders, they're 1745 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,359 hard to beat. Their production and star power are on 1746 01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,800 another level. If they can get away from the formulae, 1747 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,079 booking and poor use of talent, they could easily become 1748 01:31:49,159 --> 01:31:53,399 must watch again. That's like saying if well, I won't 1749 01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:58,000 use that phrase, but you know how my uncle could 1750 01:31:58,039 --> 01:32:00,520 be my aunt or vice versa. You know, it's just 1751 01:32:01,239 --> 01:32:04,159 this is what WWE is. They can't get away from 1752 01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:07,800 those things that could ultimately make them better. They're just 1753 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,199 they're just kind of stuck. And the formulae, booking and 1754 01:32:12,239 --> 01:32:15,119 the poor use of talent it comes with the territory. Unfortunately, 1755 01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:19,319 at this point with WWE, and so that's that's kind 1756 01:32:19,319 --> 01:32:22,119 of what we're looking at. I I I get the 1757 01:32:23,359 --> 01:32:28,640 and there was a lot of complaints about Jimmy USO 1758 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:35,520 winning the titles after his DUI. I hope that separate 1759 01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:41,039 from that, WWE is doing something that puts him on 1760 01:32:41,159 --> 01:32:44,600 the track to get better and and to to get 1761 01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:48,159 a handle on these issues. Hopefully, you know, it's something 1762 01:32:48,199 --> 01:32:50,920 maybe that behind the scenes that we don't see. Hopefully 1763 01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:55,600 this is not something that they're just you know, turning 1764 01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,600 a blind eye to, because it's very lucky that that 1765 01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,039 no one got hurt, and there's no guarantee that if 1766 01:33:02,079 --> 01:33:06,760 this happens again, no one will get hurt. So I'm 1767 01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:12,920 hoping that they're giving him some opportunity to get better 1768 01:33:13,359 --> 01:33:17,159 and that it isn't just WWE turning a blind eye. 1769 01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,399 We actually have one email that literally just came in. 1770 01:33:21,239 --> 01:33:23,920 This is from ad from High Desert, Californi. He says, 1771 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:28,279 evening mister Parks definitely a good step above pay per view. 1772 01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,560 I thought the crowd wasn't as hot to start the 1773 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,960 pay per view. Lastly got them to pay attention and 1774 01:33:33,039 --> 01:33:35,520 Rhea Charlotte lit the fire. I think starting it with 1775 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,840 the women's Money in the Bank match was the wrong choice. 1776 01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,680 The women's money in the bank was disappointing. The action 1777 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,439 and how it ended not an issue with Nikki winning, 1778 01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,760 but the spots seemed silly. Charlotte should have been dq'ed 1779 01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,880 for how she used the steps. She used it. Throwing 1780 01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:52,079 someone into the steps as different picking them up. Using 1781 01:33:52,159 --> 01:33:55,359 them would mean a DQ and she was using them kicking, 1782 01:33:55,399 --> 01:33:59,079 which I take as picking up. Great match. Didn't want 1783 01:33:59,159 --> 01:34:02,800 Charlotte to win. Where does Rihea go? Now we know 1784 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,520 WWE has no depth and stories for women. I guess 1785 01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,239 Ria will be in an eight women tag match on 1786 01:34:07,279 --> 01:34:10,760 Summer Slam pre show. Glad Big Ee One men's Money 1787 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,560 in the Bank match was really good. Would have preferred 1788 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,600 to see the men's match first and have Biggie cash 1789 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,439 in on Lashley tonight. Going in thought one hundred percent 1790 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,880 Roman would keep the title, but they definitely took me 1791 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,000 on a ride during the match and had me starting 1792 01:34:22,039 --> 01:34:24,439 to wonder if Edge would win. The ref bump and 1793 01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,079 no ref coming out for that long was ridiculous, and 1794 01:34:27,119 --> 01:34:29,279 while it didn't ruin the match, it takes some away 1795 01:34:29,319 --> 01:34:31,680 from how good it was. The ref bump, the USO's 1796 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,439 mysterios and Seth interfering. All could have been skipped, no 1797 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,399 need for it all. Seth could still come down, distracted, Edge, 1798 01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,800 et cetera. I know Roman is going to beat Sena 1799 01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:42,479 one hundred percent. Let's see if they can do that 1800 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,479 ride again. They gave plenty of reasons to watch SmackDown 1801 01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,079 Sina Roman, Seth Roman, Edge, Seth Bigie, but did they 1802 01:34:49,119 --> 01:34:51,880 provide a reason to watch Raw? Thanks have a great night. 1803 01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,640 Thank you. I'd always always love hearing from a new 1804 01:34:55,720 --> 01:35:00,439 voice here on the emails and calls. Where does Reo go? Now? 1805 01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:04,319 I think that's a fair question. The depth of the 1806 01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,800 Raw women's division does doesn't just hurt the top of 1807 01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,560 the division, but it hurts folks like Riha, who now 1808 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,760 you would think, have nowhere to go with the title 1809 01:35:13,039 --> 01:35:15,399 unless they continue to do rematches with Charlotte, which I 1810 01:35:15,399 --> 01:35:19,319 would vociferously argue against. But you know, does Rhea go 1811 01:35:20,079 --> 01:35:21,960 back into a few to Oscar? We've seen that over 1812 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,079 and over again, So where does she go from there? 1813 01:35:25,039 --> 01:35:28,039 I think that's again a fair point. I made the 1814 01:35:28,079 --> 01:35:31,239 same argument about the ref not coming in soon enough 1815 01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:35,119 in the in the main event on Twitter you know, 1816 01:35:35,239 --> 01:35:37,600 you had I think Pat Buck was out there one 1817 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,439 of the producers. You had others helping Charles Robinson to 1818 01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:43,560 the back. There's no reason storyline wise that as soon 1819 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,399 as he came out that they didn't order a new 1820 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,880 ref into the into the ring. So I thought that 1821 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,680 was pretty weak. But you know, w WE is willing 1822 01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,000 to overlook some of those things in order to tell 1823 01:35:54,079 --> 01:35:57,399 the story they want to tell. Unfortunately, they're they're willing 1824 01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,399 to sort of ask fans to shut their brains off 1825 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,840 and not focus on the details when they have a 1826 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,680 place that they want to get to. So that's been 1827 01:36:09,079 --> 01:36:12,439 WWE for a long time now. Unfortunately, you don't go 1828 01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:16,520 to WWE for the detail work. All right, folks, appreciate 1829 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:21,199 everybody calling in listening, whether you're live or on delay. Again, 1830 01:36:21,319 --> 01:36:23,359 Zach hayt Orn will be along next Sunday night, eight 1831 01:36:23,399 --> 01:36:26,000 pm Eastern talking to the big shows and pro wrestling, 1832 01:36:26,039 --> 01:36:27,520 a lot of money in the bank follow out I'm 1833 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,159 sure from Ron SmackDown this week. 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