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years ago flashback episode for Sunday, July nineteenth, twenty twenty six.
Today we jump back five years to the Money of
the Bank postgame show hosted by Greg Parks with the.
Speaker 2: Wrestling Night in America.
Speaker 1: Format, which originally live streamed on July eighteenth, twenty twenty one.
He talks with live callers about John Cena's return, Rio
Ripley against Charlotte Peacock problems and more. Also some bonus
t Anda Slammiversary conversation. So let's get to it again.
This originally live stream five years ago.
Speaker 3: This week, if it's Sunday, it's Wrestling Night in America.
Here PETERW. Torschdailycast dot Com. Good Sunday evening for July eighteenth,
twenty twenty one. I am Pro Wrestling tors columnus Greg
Parks here with you to break down the Money in
the Bank pay per view that just went off the
year moments ago, as well as last night's Slammiversary pay
per view for Impact Wrestling. It's a two for one
weekend here, so we're gonna get right into the results
of those. If you want to get on the line,
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can listen to it on delay when the show goes
up overnight. So Slammiversary last night was a big show
for Impact Wrestling, so I don't want to sort of
forget about that as we hear on Wrestling Night in America,
do talk about the big shows and pro wrestling. The
pre show match saw the knockouts tag titles change hands
when Havoc and Rosemary defeated Fire and Flava. The first
match was the traditional X Division Sprint. This was the
ultimate X match for the X Division Championship. Josh Alexander retained,
defeating the likes of Ace Austin, Chris Bay, P d Williams,
Roheet Raju, and Trey mcguell. Good to see Josh Alexander retain.
I really like him as sort of the face of
the X Division right now. Very good match, innovative spots,
including a Canadian destroyer off someone's shoulders, so that was
kind of wild. The second match of the show saw
Matt Cardona and Chelsea Green defeat Brian Myers and Taneil Dashwood.
Chelsea Green was the surprise partner of Matt Cardona in
this mixed tag match what about six minutes. This was
more of getting Chelsea Green on there as a surprise. Obviously,
she's dating or is engaged to Matt Cardona. Cardona formerly
dated Taneil Dashwood. Obviously the background with Cardona and Brian
Myers as well known as well, so a lot going
on in that match. Cardona and Chelsea Green pick up
the victory the third match with w Morrissey, the former
Big Cast, defeating Eddie Edwards. I like what Impact has
done with Morrissey treating him as a serious threat to
a big man. I thought Eddie Edwards was the right
opponent to bump for him and to be sympathetic to
the crowd. Impact had a crowd on hand as well
for this one, similar to what WWE had at Money
in the Bank, of course, not as big of a crowd.
Match number four was an unannounced match returning Finjuice. David
Finley and Juice Robinson defeated Madman Fulton and Mahabali Shira.
Match number five was Chris Saban over Moose. A bit
of a surprise there. Moos has had a lot of
momentum going forward. He just lost to Kenny Omega in
the last major match he was in. The Good Brothers
won the Impact Tag titles, defeating the former champions Joe
Dorian Rhino as well as Rich Swan and William mac Fallabah.
TJP was not available for this show, so No Way
Jose now known as simply no Way, a sub for TJP,
is the partner of Falabah in a tag title match
the Good Brothers Impact Wrestling Tag champs. Deanna Parowza defeated
thunder Rosa, which was a surprise opponent for her to
retain the Knockouts title. Mickey James came and offered Diana
as spot on the NWA All Women's pay per view
that they'll have coming up next month. And then in
the May of Kenny Omega feeding Sammy Kala had a
very violent, very bloody, very hardcore match. It was no
d Q for the Impact title. The very end saw
j White come out and face off with Kelly Omega.
The show went off the air either to tease fans
tuning in because just at the moment someone else was
running in, or they went off the air too early
and didn't show the aftermatch. So I'm sure they will
show it this coming Thursday on Impact. As for Money
in the Bank tonight, the pre show saw the USO's
defeat Ray Mysterio and Dominic Masteria to win the tag titles,
so all kinds of tag titles changing hands this weekend.
Match Number one was Nicki Ash or Nikki Ash defeating
Alexa Bliss Osca Live Morgan's, Elenavega and Natalia Tamina and
Naomi to win the women's money in the Bank match.
I thought this was a pretty weak money in the
bank match buy money in the bank match standards. I
don't have a huge problem with Nikki getting the victory.
She does seem to have a lot of momentum with
this new character, so I'm fine with that. There really
were not a lot of solid contenders in this match.
This is a pretty weak lineup from a star power
point of view, and I think that contributed to the
match quality as well. But Nikki gets the victory there.
Match number two aj Styles and almost retaining the tag
titles over the Viking Raiders. The fans were firmly behind
Styles and almost, which was interesting there for that one
that turned out to be a better match than I expected.
Match number three was lastly defeating Kofe Kingston in a
veritable squash. Lashley took his time dismantling Kofe Kingston. Doesn't
speak well for Kofe to have a high profile lost
to brock Lesnar the way he lost to Brock on
the first SmackDown on Fox, as well as now here
against Lashley, so it'll be interesting to see where Kovie
Kingston goes from here. Lashly likely ticketed for the returning
Goldberg at SummerSlam, so no wonder WWE wanted to keep
him strong with this victory. Match Number four was Charlotte
Flair defeating Rhea Ripley to win the We're All Women's Championship.
I look at Charlotte's always in the title pictures, so
it feels a little dirty to say that I support
her victory here, but I do in a way. This
was a really interesting match from a crowd reaction point
of view. The crowd really didn't have much time for
either one of these women, chanting for Becky Lynch early
on Charlotte not happy with that, flipping off the crowd.
I attribute that mostly to WWE muddying the waters on
their characters and really not giving us a clear baby
face to cheer for in the lative to this, But
the work that both women did won over the crowd
by the end, So thumbs up to both of these women.
Hopefully that is an acknowledgment, especially for Rehea Ripley, because
Charlotte is Charlotte, She's entrenched as a top women star.
Rieia Ripley hopefully can find herself in a similar position
here going forward, and hopefully WWE management will acknowledge the
work that she did along with Charlotte here to win
the crowd over in this match. Match number five was
the men's money in the Bank ladder match and that
at this point during the entrances, Peacock had some issues,
so there was a lot of consternation on Twitter about this. Luckily,
it was the right match to have the issues because
there were so many long entrances here drawn out and
by the time it got around to the match a
few minutes in, Peacock had resolved whatever issues it was
having with the presentation of the show. Big Ee, as
most expected, got the victory here defeating John Morris and
Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, King Knakamura, Riddle, Drew McIntyre, ed Ricochet.
McIntyre taken out by Jinder Mahal and his associates halfway
through the match. A big pop for Big Ee getting
the victory. So Biggie and Nicky ash are your two
money in the bank briefcase holders, neither one of them
cashing it in on this show. And then finally in
the main event, Roman and Rains defeating Edge, Seth Rollins,
interfering at will once the referee was bumped. And this
was more of what we saw with Roman Rains over
the summer and over the last year really in terms
of his matches being very methodical, well a lot of
them having reins giving a soliloquy during them. This didn't
have that as much. Would have been more difficult to
do with the live crowd, but especially at the very beginning,
it was a slow pace to it, but credit both men.
They never really lost the crowd, even three and three
plus hours into this main show. And then at the
very end, Roman Rains takes the mic, says a few
words until John Sena's music hit and he came out,
didn't say anything, played to the crowd, got a tremendous
pop and did his U Can't see Me routine to
Roman Rains setting up John Sena versus Roman Reigns for
the Universal Championship at SummerSlam.
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we'll hit the phones first with the four to one
oh Airy code. Four one oh. This is Reverend Keith
and Baltimore, Maryland. Reverend Keith, Welcome to Wrestling Night in
America tonight.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much Greg for taking my call. I'm
gonna make it brief and to the point. We all
know that the real Ripley shall As Flair match was
matched at at Night. Those two ladies really brought it.
Speaker 5: What were your.
Speaker 6: Thoughts on that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it was as clear of
a match of the night. To me, I thought it
was really strong. I thought the men's money in the
bank ladder match probably would give it some competition depending
on how you see Roman reraigins versus that. I can
see a lot of people liking that match for the drama.
I can see a lot of people not liking it
because of how long it took to get out of
first and second gear, maybe some of the shenanigans at
the end with the ref bump and things like that,
so some detail work that I think a lot of
people will probably knock that main event down for. But
there are a lot of people that can overlook that stuff,
and especially those who really enjoy Roman Reiginns's work. But yeah,
you know, it was a big night and a good
night for Charlotte and Riha to not only have, as
you said, potentially the match of the night, but also
to really win over the crowd in the process of
doing so. I think that speaks well to both Rhea
and Charlotte going forward.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I had originally tweeted it it was uncharacteristic
of Charlotte to give the finger to the crowd, but
I realized in hindsight that she was responding to we
want Becky Champs.
Speaker 5: Is that correct?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: For sure?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so that was her way of healing. You
know that Charlotte is a heel, and I had predicted
that Charlotte Fled would be given the title back. I
think this is what her fourteenth title reign or something,
and at some point she's gonna break her daddy's record.
Speaker 7: We all know that.
Speaker 4: But I think it was well deserved here, and they
both knocked it out the park. I mean, from the
soup plexus to this ring psychology, to the selling everything,
and even Charlotte's reverse back moon salt flip, which sometimes
is overrated. I thought she she nailed that perfectly tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you mentioned a lot of the positives
and the fact that they were able to overcome what
I think a lot of people agree is such poor
storytelling leading up to this. And I know the story
was Rihea sort of trying to one up Shark and
trying to out Charlotte Charlotte in the build up to it,
but I just thought it was a little messy. But
credit again to the women for being able to overcome that,
and you know, the agent thing of the match, the
producer who was in charge of the match and laying
out the match in a way that got the crowd
into it as well, despite neither one of these women
coming across really as likable or or someone you'd want
to cheer for in the build up in the last
few weeks and really the last few months. So credit
to the producer to this as well. But you know,
I agree. I think I think there's an argument to
be made, in a pretty strong argument. As you said,
Reverend Keith, that that was the match of.
Speaker 4: The night, Yes, I would say so. Now we know
Peacock had their issues tonight, and like you said, at
least the majority of the issues came doing the Men's
Money in the Bank ladder match introductions. However, I don't
know about you, but I, at least on my screen
because I had to keep attempting to log then logged
back in, I still miss the first five minutes of
the of the Men's Money in the Bank match, And
I've noticed Greg, since Peacock has taken over, they've had
a lot of streaming issues and I just hope and
pray that they rectify this because it takes the joy
out of watching a major pay per view when you
have to, you know, when it's flashing in and out,
you have all these streaming issues at three different points
on my TV, it just went black, you know.
Speaker 5: So it's awful and.
Speaker 4: It's something that they need to rectify, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I separate from tonight's issues, and I think I
missed the first two or three minutes of the men's
match when I had to log out and log back in.
There are not a lot of people I've noticed who
have a lot of good things to say about Peacock.
You would think that a cable giant like Comcast, NBC
Universal could get their ducks in a row and get
this to work. And you know, wrestling fans were already
kind of over Peacock with the the lack of the
ability to pause a live presentation and things like that.
So the integration, yeah, and to rewind, so the integration
of the WWE network into Peacock had already pardoned my
pun ruffled some feathers to begin with, and then to
have and and to their credit, I have not experienced
the same issues I guess that you have over the
last few months. So most of the time, this was
really the This was really the first serious issue that
I'd had watching WWE pay per views on Peacock. So
I will say to this point, you know, if you're
watching live and if you don't need to rewind or
don't need to pause, I haven't had any real major issues.
But tonight was just was a struggle there for a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was. It was the number one trend
on Twitter for all the wrong reasons. Yeah, now shifting
gears and then I'm a step aside and that all
the other callers take over. It was good to see
Supercina back. And as I was sharing with my wife,
WWE's booking over the years has always been to send
the fans home happy, and I questioned Greg the thought
process behind putting the men's money in the bank ladder
match before the Roman Rains match, especially if you were
going to book Big E to win, you know. But
now I see why they had John Boy come back,
and it was good to see him. He hadn't lost
a beat, you know, he still looked the same, He
still has his same you know, manner hythm. So I
look forward to John Cena Roman Reigns headlining Summerslam's August
twenty first at Allegiance stadium, and that's a huge stadium.
That's where my Ravens would be playing a month later
on the first Monday.
Speaker 7: Night football game.
Speaker 4: So you know, I get an early look at this
huge stadium that everybody's talking about. So it was good
to see John Cena. I'm looking forward to that main event.
And also quick, I'm a cheat here, I said I
had one comment, only I have another one. I thought
the way that they booked Lastly to destroy KOFE was perfect.
I would have not even let it go that long.
I mean, because if you want, whether it's Goldberg or
brock Lessner to be built as his next opponent, you
want Lastly to just look intimidating, to look massive, to
look beast like. And I thought he just destroyed KOFE
from start to finish. And you question why they even
built KOFEE up in the way that they did in
the weeks prior to have him, you know, be destroyed.
But it told the story. So you know, it all
tied together with lastly's promo that he cut on MVP
at the end of last week's raw, you know, saying
he was sick of the women and wings and all
of that.
Speaker 5: It came full circle.
Speaker 4: Greg, So this is one time when I can say
the writers on Raw did an excellent job, you know,
leading up to this match, because he truly destroyed Koche
with a vengeance. Thanks for taking my call, Greg, you
do a wonderful job. It's always and once again, thanks
for incorporating my notes from the Ring of Honor pay
per view last Sunday night, and I look forward to
talking to you next Sunday.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you Reverend Keith. Absolutely doing the show
last week during the Ring of Honor pay per view
and having a Reverend Keith communicate with us was a
lot of fun. Yeah, Seena's return was it was good.
You know, he hasn't missed a beats. The hair might
be a little different, but everything else looks the same.
I think he's going to be juiced being in front
of a live audience. It's been a while since he's
been in front of a live audience in terms of WWE.
So I think when he cuts that first promo back,
whether it's Friday on SmackDown or whatever it may be,
I think that's going to be a real happening, and
I think the crowds are going to be very happy
to see him, especially against uber Heel Roman reigns and
in the booking of Lashley, you know, building Koffee up.
You always want your challenger to have some kind of
You always want to give him some hope and give
the fans some hope that there's a possibility that they're
going to win. So or otherwise why tune in? You know,
so I'm interested. You know, there's gonna be a lot
of people who look at this and say Kofe was
sacrificed again to bring in an aging star like Goldberg
over the Hill, and there's gonna be people that are
upset by that, And I get it. You know, I'd
rather see if it was up to me brock Lesner
or Goldberg, I'd rather see lessnar against Lastly. I think
that's a more interesting dynamic than Goldberg against Lashly, which
again is the reporting that's out there right now. But
you know, we'll have to see if that ends up
going in a different direction.
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Speaker 3: I want to go to an email before we go
back to the phones. This email came in on Friday.
Is Roy from California, one of his two emails that
he sent in for tonight's show. He says, Hello, Greg,
hope to be able to send an email regarding money
in the bank fallout. But one question I've wanted to
ask is how long do you think until WWE makes
real wear boots. I ask this because I feel everyone
in WWE history who has gone bootless eventually does Jimmy Snuka, Yokozuna, Umaga,
Russev come to mind. I think I think of an
injury that could take place. I look at some of
the moves Riddle does where he lands on his feet
and just wonder if it's only a matter of time.
I'll be curious to see what spots he's involved in
that money in the bank. I'll be honest. I've not
spent a lot of time thinking about Riddle and the
potential for him to wear boots. He's wrestled this long
and I guess has not really had any major injuries
by virtue of not wearing boots. I would be hesitant
if I was a wrestler to not wear boots, because
all it takes is one wrong move to get stepped on,
and that could hurt, especially when you're talking two hundred
three hundred pound wrestlers you're in the ring with. That's
not an experience I'd like to feel. But I think
it does add a little to his character, that uniqueness.
He wouldn't be able to do the jumping and you know,
throwing the flip flops into the crowd as he does.
That's a signature of his entrance, and he wouldn't be
able to do that. So I think it adds to
the uniqueness of who Riddle is. So I don't think
they're going to be in a hurry to boot him
eventually down the line once he gets older, maybe, if
he changes character, maybe, but I see him for the
foreseeable future being barefoot. So let's go back to the phones.
Here the six's one five area code. This is Sean
from Murphreesboro, Tennessee. Sean. Good to hear from you here
on a pay per view evening wrestling night in America.
Speaker 9: Yes, there, Greg, It's always good to talk to you man.
Thank you for doing this late knowing you're going to
be going early in the morning tomorrow, so we definitely
appreciate what you're doing tonight after this long night. But
I don't want to steal too much from what Rip
mc keith was talking about, because he made a lot
of good points. I wanted to kind of go I
mean talking about Charlotte Rhea, but number one giving them credit,
like you said, for getting the crowd invested in what
they were doing, because they did have a really good match.
And that's what's been disappointing about Rhea and seeing her
slat fans. It's like, Okay, she was a babyface this
whole time, and that's an ugly way to show a babyface.
For the last month to do a lot of the
stuff they've done, and it's just I think you're right.
I think they really had to take to put the
title on Charlotte because Rhea's got to get herself figured
out as a character, Like we know how good she
is in the ring, and so I think once she
gets her they can somehow figure out the character development.
I think they can go she's still a star in
the making, and they just have to get that right.
So I mean, is that why you were with me
as far as putting the bill on Charlotte tonight, just
because of that that sense the character issues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, I don't. I don't see you know,
Rhea Ripley. I think they need to move away from
each other after this. And so then you ask yourself,
who does reeor Ripley move on? Maybe it's maybe it's
Becky Lynch. I don't know, but putting the title on
Charlotte at least gives it a little different look at
the top of the card. My only hesitation with that is, Okay,
now Ria Ripley has a claim at a rematch. I
know WW doesn't do automatic rematch clauses when Champions is
the title anymore, But my whole thing was getting away
from the Charlotte versus Rhea feud, and tonight they've just
given an excuse to keep going with it by having
potentially Ria rematch with Charlotte and try to get her
title back. So I don't know, I think a lot
of it's up in the air until Becky Lynch comes back.
I don't know when that is. I know she's been
shown training. I know, you know, there was some I
think a picture of her near or at Money in
the bank tonight that may have gotten the crowd into
a frenzy here in this match hoping to see her.
But it does kind of feel like Becky Lynch is
the star of the women's division and they're sort of
in a holding pattern until she comes back, and hopefully
they have a date and it can sort of work
around that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's why I'm excited to see when Becky
does come back. I mean, it's going to be great
to see her, you know, glad she's do you know,
it should be hopefully should be able to stay you know,
for a while. That is obviously up to her. But
I wanted to say again, I'm with Keith and you
guys as far as it was awesome to see John
Cena back. It was fantastic. I mean obviously the crowder
Rup didn't and this is where they should be, Sina.
You know, a celebrity babyface up against you know, Roman
is the heel. I mean that just works perfectly. The promos.
I can't wait to hear the promos for this. It's
gonna be just I mean, are you as pumped as
I am for that part of it? Because that's when
you have a babyface, heal dynamic with two guys that
are as good as on promos now as Roman has
been at the heel and seeing Sena do what he's
gonna do. I mean, I think it's going to be fantastic.
What do you think about that part of it? Because
I can't wait for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited. Rains has been able to vanquish a
lot of challengers from sort of the lower ranks underneath him,
the Kevin Owens, the Ray Mysterios. You know, he's been
able to defeat now a returning star, a legacy star
in Edge, but he's not faced someone the level of
John Cena yet. So it's going to be interesting the
promos because and I don't know if this is going
to be brought up or not, but but Roman Reigns
is the modern day John Cena that he was the
guy that WWE hitched their wagon to when Sina left.
And does Sina bring that up? Does Sina say, Look,
the only reason you're in this spot is because I left.
That may not make Cina look very good to admit that,
but I don't know. I mean, how is that dynamic
going to go? There are so many different directions they
could go with promos. It's going to be interesting to
see how it works. And like you said, they're both
talented enough that whatever direction they decide to go, I
think it's going to work.
Speaker 9: Yeah, because I feel like they had the match a
couple of years ago, but it was you know again,
Roman was the John Cena, you know, getting rejected by
everybody and his promo skills the baby theys just weren't
good and so he did good for it. I mean,
he did an okay jout of I thought kind of
going into that match, but it was just like nobody
really wanted to see it, and it was like, Uh,
now that you want to see it, you're excited about
where they go with it and so that that'll be
fun to me. But the two of the questions I
was going to ask you was the first was going
back to the women's money to make louder match, which
I'm with to you, the star power pretty low. It
was a pretty weak match they tried, but it just
the crowd wasn't into it, and I didn't like the
I mean, I'm glad Nicky want because I love Nicky
as a character and she's trying to make the best
out of this almost a superhero. I'm still not a
fan of it, but I see why they're doing it.
The finish was just so so lame, with them all
fighting and she just climbs up and just gets the briefcase.
I'm like, it just makes everybody look so dumb. Well,
what did you think about that? I just don't like
the way they did it. I mean, it's fine to
have Mickey winb but what do you think about the
way they did it.
Speaker 3: It was one of those things that I think will
make a cool visual inte images that they show and
video packages that recap Nicki's rise, but when it's actually
happening and you see how weakly the women were actually fighting,
they're kind of pawing at each other. There was there
wasn't even like early real punches thrown in that. I mean,
it looks so weak and so ineffective in the moment
that it just kind of made your roly rise. And
I thought, unfortunately that was sort of par for the course.
I thought a lot of the match was very clunky
and there were spots that just didn't work, and that
was one of them. And you know, ultimately that was
the last spot of the match where Nicki goes and
gets the victory. So yeah, you know, my pick for
this was Alexa Bliss. So as as down as I
was initially on this nicky character, like you said, and
I think you framed it very well, I'm excited for Nicki.
I'm not really still one hundred percent on board with
this character, but she's doing the best she can with it.
You can tell that she's engaged with it. You can
tell that this was her idea and she has some
agency in this character, that it wasn't just something that
was foisted upon her by WWE Creative. So the fans
are able to tell that, and fans are able to
tell when you're genuinely excited to play a character, and
I think that's going to help her win over some
doubting fans going forward. So it's not Alexa Bliss. So
that's my positive spin on Nikki winning this one, because
if Alexa wanted, it's a sign that WWE is going
to go full bore with this the mystical, magical Alexa
Bliss stuff, and I don't know how that would work
in front of live fans.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I had Alexa winning too, so I'm curious to
see where they go with what she's doing. I mean,
they were into her tonight more than than I thought,
so that was intriguing.
Speaker 5: The last question I was going.
Speaker 9: To ask you is and I'll get off here and
let other guys get in, and I know it's a
late night be with Drew. You know, definitely was worried
about the reaction he would get it and it was
very subpar. I was worried about that they've done such
a bad job with him in the last you know,
three four months, just the stupid some of the promos
he's done, and it's just the stuff they're giving him.
It's I don't I think he's trying to do the
best he can with it. But were you worried about
that too? And and do you think knowing he.
Speaker 3: Can beat gender of Mahall.
Speaker 9: You know, even though none of us want to see
that match, but they'll they're gonna do it. Do you
think after he beats Gender, do you think he can
kind of build up a little momentum that eventually if
he does hopefully eventually move the mat down and get
you know, faced Roman at some point next year or
you know, whenever they do, you think he can build
the momentum from that and start going back in the
right direction with his character and overall is a good show. Greg,
have a safe trip seeing your family. I hope you
get their safe, hope everything goes well. And I appreciate
you being here like there also everybody says all these
late nights, and appreciate what you do for us, man,
and thanks for taking my call as always.
Speaker 3: Absolutely appreciate the kind of word Sean.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I think that's an interesting point that Sean makes there
in terms of you know, the speculation is Drew McIntyre
moves to SmackDown in the draft. Could they use the
Ginger Mahal feud, a feud that McIntyre is undoubtedly going
to come out on top on to springboard him and
give him a little more momentum than he has now
to go into SmackDown a little stronger than he is now,
having lost the title, having lost the rematches to Lashley.
I think that's an interesting way to look at it.
I think timing wise, it could work out that way too.
I was on the Flagship with Wade Keller this past
week talking about money in the bank and talking really
about Drew McIntyre's character, and so, you know, given what
we had talked about on that show, I'm disappointed but
not surprised that the crowd was not fully engaged with
Drew McIntyre, the babyface. I think the Wade WWE framed
him getting rematches, and the way they could have framed
it to make him come across says less whiny and
I think would have worked better. And you know, part
of my argument that I made too was Drew mcintarre's
entire character has been defined as him being champion. Now
that he's not only not champion, he's not in the
championship hunt, they've almost had to create a character on
the run with him out of nothing because that character
that he played, he can't play that now that he's
not champion. So that's where you get the story time
with Drew McIntyre, and that's the same well that they've
gone to with you know, John Cena, and it reminds
me of sort of the suffering suck attache era of
Roman Rains, where they were just throwing everything at the
wall to try to think of a way to get
Roman over in his promos with the fans. And I'm
not sure this is gonna work for Drew mcintarre. It's
certainly not embarrassing as that era was for Roman Rains
and for WWE Creative, but I don't think story Time
with Drew McIntyre is really the way to go either,
as we've seen from the reaction tonight. So they've got
some retooling to do, and hopefully this feud with Ginger
Mahal gets him back on track. Back to the emails
we go. And by the way, if you're just tuning
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air right after the pay per view goes off the air,
so we'll head back to our emails. And this is
Chris from reading Pennsylvania. He's says, the Ria Ripley and
Charlotte Flare match was very good. I even enjoyed it.
Between the pixelation, the feed blacking out for a second,
the wild amount of camera cuts, and the horrible build
up to the match, these two wrestlers really got the
crowd into it and put on a damn fine match.
It's shame WW and Peacock seemed to conspire against these
performers on a weekly basis. I thought that the blackout
during the Charlotte Rea match, I thought that was to
try to cover for Charlotte, giving the crowd the finger.
I didn't think they did a tremendously good job of
doing that, but that was my impression of it. I
could be wrong on that, but you know, I think
that is an opinion that Chris shares that is echoed
by a lot of folks on Twitter, and I'm on
Twitter at Greg M Parks. I'd love for you to
follow me there, interact with me during these pay per
view Sundays and most other nights when there's live wrestling,
as well as well as the callers that we've had
tonight that Charlotte versus Rio is a very good match,
that the build up did them no favors, but they
were able to overcome that on this evening, and of
course the issues with Peacock tonight were well documented. So
back to the phones we go. It's the force of
an eight area code. It's Drell from Georgia. Darrell, Welcome
back to Wrestling Night in America.
Speaker 7: How you doing tonight, Greg.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well. Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I'm happy that you're able to.
Speaker 5: Doing your layman's work and we getting ready for football.
Speaker 7: Season, so you know I have to always mention you
and your jack war Hopefully y'all have a better season
since y'all got Sunshine as your quarterback.
Speaker 3: The figures are crossed. It's gonna be hard to have
a worse season than last week than last year.
Speaker 7: I will say, I need to make sure y'all signed
that offensive tackle.
Speaker 5: That's what y'all need to do.
Speaker 7: But you know, and that's another thing and outside of wrastling.
But anyway to talk about the show, I don't only
go back. I know y'all spoke on this tonight, but
that Ria and Charlotte match begainning of that match, that
the fans wasn't into it, you can blame that on
the story. I don't blame it on the raffles Pfel.
I blame it on someone like Ben because of the
story that he was telling, and that put those those
those people out there in a harder predicament where they
probably had to go a little bit harder than they
wanted to. Maybe, but the match was.
Speaker 5: Ended up being good.
Speaker 7: But I feel like they did them no justice because
even though that match turned out to be good.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 7: It didn't end up with nothing. Even though Charlotte won,
and she's still not in a better place. I think
she's even in the worst place, and then let's say
Becky show up Monday, you I have no choice but
to make her a short time champion and Backy win
that title off for her and Luke's damage after that,
and they haven't showed the possible the capabilities of building
up anybody else. What do you think about that? What
I just said, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think you have to make Becky the champion right away.
I think you could make her chase a little bit.
You can tell the story of maybe her being a
little rusty coming back and trying to regain her footing.
I don't think it's automatic that you have to. Obviously
you're gonna put her in the title picture. I think
no doubt about that, But I don't think you have
to put the title on her immediately. So that doesn't
mean I think Charlotte's going to be a champion for
a year either. I think there's a sweet spot in
between there. But yeah, I think you do make a
good point though that I don't know that Charlotte is
better off for having won here. I think this is
one of those situations where we have to see where
they go from here. If Becky doesn't come back tomorrow, night,
who's Charlotte's first feud. If it's not Rea, there's really
not a lot of contenders there. Becky took a picture
of herself outside of Dicky's Arena tonight where Money in
the Bank took place, so she may not have been
scheduled for tonight, but she could be on the show
tomorrow night if WWE wants to, you know, have John
Cena come back at Money in the Bank and then
have Becky Lynch come back at Raw and really make
it seem like WWE is are real happening, that people
are coming back and things are back to normal. You
could see that happening. So, I mean, it could be
as soon as tomorrow night for Becky and Charlotte to
go forward. But I don't think that's a given. But
based on the landscape of the Raw Women's division, I
don't see a lot of other contenders for Charlotte's title,
and I don't think that's gonna help Charlotte if that's
the direction they go.
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Speaker 7: I understand that and I can see that as well,
but I think with now you have no main event
people that too few with Bobby. Lastly, unless you talking
about the little rumors of Goldberg coming back, which is
not interesting, I don't think you had a capability with
raw Dwinderlin as it is to even play around with
not letting her win the title and stopping that momentum
of what she would bring back. So that's one part
why I think you can't even allow her to dudes
that match because that could hurt you more than what
they can show that they can build back. So that's
one portion of it. Then also with the Money in
the Bank winner, both of them, I feel like neither
one of those those contenders are people who you seen
as winners. Since last year both Money and the Bank
winners won. You can tell even with the people that
they put on that these people are nothing but people
that they're gonna have in that role as people who
lost the money in the bank. Cash in with nick
Nikki Ash and even big so with Nicki Ash a
raw character, I don't see her being a contender, even
though she was in that feud with those two competitors
from tonight with Charlotte and Real Ripley. You do you
see any chance of her being able to few, which
I don't. The thing with the only potential person.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing with that, though, Drell is they get
that briefcase for three hundred and sixty five days, and
we know that in the world of professional wrestling, three
months down the line is a long time and a
lot can change in three months, let alone six months,
nine months, twelve months when they may still be holding
the briefcase. So I don't know how long it's going
to be. Obviously, looking at it right now, you have
some pretty strong women's champions on both brands, with Charlotte
Flair and Bianca Belair, and neither one of them you
can imagine losing to someone like Nicky ash unless it's
after a grueling match like Charlotte had here with with
with Rhea, or like Bianca may end up having with
Sasha Banks at SummerSlam, and really the same with Biggie Bobby.
Lashley has gotten to the point where he is a
very strong champion. Roman reigns very strong champion, So who
does Big Ev. You know, I think big Ee right
now has a better chance as we sit here tonight,
has a better chance of cashing in successfully than Nicky
ash you know, losing the money in the bank. Briefcase
cash in would sort of cement Nikki as all wants
a superhero, right, She's so close to being the best,
but she's not quite there. So that's kind of my
take today. But again you asked me three months. Six
months now, the landscape on either one or both of
these shows could change so drastically that all of a
sudden you may be able to see an avenue where
a Nikki or a Biggie successfully cash in.
Speaker 7: But also looking at the reactions tonight from both people,
there weren't even big reactions. You could see they kept
paying in the crowd.
Speaker 5: Especially got a strong stand people just.
Speaker 7: Looking reaction, But you could see a lot of people
out there with their hands crossed and not saying anything.
And with the lineup that you have going around, it's
hard to see because I don't see anybody cashing in
on Roman That just out of the question, and with
the damage that they did last year, with which mcaully
given the giving the title way in the briefcase and
the oldest.
Speaker 5: Debacle that they did with it.
Speaker 7: I think that damaged money in the bank so much
that you can't wait six and seven months down the
line to cash them in because of what they did
last year and how it affected money in the bank
as a whole, and you wouldn't like for them to
put it on someone strong.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts, Well, yeah, I certainly think that
what they did last year with MS and Otis did
not help the standing of the money in the bank stipulation.
I also don't think that's going to be the norm
going forward. I think that was sort of the exception,
and I don't know if that was storytelling from the beginning,
or if WWE got cold feet with having Otis win it,
or what the deal was. But I still think there's
enough cache the idea of being able to cash that briefcase,
and especially now that nobody else has a real claim
that it's hard to see any of the characters in
the match trying to pull the same stunt that Miz
did last year. So I think it's pretty solidly Nicki
and Nicki and Big Ee, and you know, I think
that all of the other instances where the money in
the bank briefcase was cashed in by the winner, tends
to drown out that one time WWE did something admittedly
foolish with.
Speaker 7: It cool but although tonight, especially in that Charlotte their
real match, it showed that storytelling. We was wondering how
coming out back into live arenas with crowds, how the
storytelling would effect some people, and we've seen it tonight
with that Ria and Charlotte match.
Speaker 5: It was such a drastic.
Speaker 7: Just even from the Cod and the Kofee match, that
you could tell the drasticness of it and how that
crowd just was going to sitting on their hands. So
with that being said, we know that storytelling's going to
affect a lot of this and if you can tell
a good story with the money in the bank, that's
going to affect and damage the people that you had
it with. And they haven't shown in probably fifteen years
that they've been good with storytelling when it's been putting
his hands all on everything. Lest we know that he
got his hands all over the Roman stuff. But that's
not saying if we do or not, but that's my
feel on that. Now, last thing is what happened, how
they set up the Self and Edge match, you could
tell that this is where they was going and things
like that. I felt like this match set up and
Drew and a Gender match set up. These are gonna
be two telling the matches and how Stealth and Drew
set up afterwards and how they come out of that.
They need good stories to be told with these two.
I think Self and Edge have a better chance, But
you have a long road to ride with somebody like
Gender and Drew, especially if you're going to be switching
Drew over the smack Down as a potential challenge. The won't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I spoke about how important I think
the Drew gender feud is for Drew to get a
springboard whether or not he goes to SmackDown. I think
if he stays on Raw, I still think he needs
that refinement of who Drew McIntyre is. What are his
goals now that he's no longer champion, now that he's
no longer in the title picture. I think they really
need to refine who he is so that the audience,
the live audience knows seth Rollins versus Edge. I think
it's going to be a really nice semi main event
for the SmackDown brand at SummerSlam. Seth's character, I know,
is not for everyone. I know there's a lot of
people who don't like the over the top nature, don't
like the silliness that comes with it. Hopefully, Edge, with
his serious character, can sort of steer the Rollins character
back into a place where maybe he's more vicious than
he is silly in terms of you know, his actions
as his mic work and things like that. So you know,
John Cena is not gonna be around forever. It's going
to be a short term thing with Roman reigns. Seth
versus Roman, they sort of teased that, but both of
them are heals, So I'm curious is to see what
happens with Seth coming out of the Edge feud and
if he is posidition to maybe do something healed versus
heal with Roman, or maybe join sides with Roman. They
exchange glances tonight that I thought for a half second
they were going to reform the Shield, So I'm not
sure we can really rule that out, but yeah, I
think that's going to be an important match and important
for the characters.
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Speaker 7: I like that idea. If both of them join together,
that will be something different and something new and fresh. Now,
I know you haven't had a question on SA Slamber Versary,
so I'm going to my last question and stuff was
going to be about Slammer Versuary. So in the end
of Slammer Versary, we see j White come out. They
have of it. They was trying to tease it like
he was going to too sweet them, but they did.
Then it went off and stuff like that. Then you
read on after what you had spend juice them come
out and all of that. It's interesting to see what
they do. Now I have and I've spoken with you
about it. I've never been an impact I haven't been
an Impact supporter in a while. I still say they're
charity case. They be wasting people money and stuff like that.
But seeing that impact, they have been given good stories.
I will give them that, but they're throwing so much
out there and not getting any type of game and
just staying stale, sometimes even decreasing.
Speaker 5: There are promotion who's working with four or five different other.
Speaker 7: Promotions and giving you almost super indish those and still
not getting anywhere even with the storytelling. Where do you
see that this goal even though you would think they're
doing all of this and it's not getting them anywhere,
you feel like they should just call them quies and
but you hate that. Then the guys who they're probably
won't have no place to work right now in the sort.
But I think it does more harm in the loan run,
especially when they give you these super shows but not
getting anything out of it. How did you like the
j White portion of it? And what do you think
about that that they're giving you all this stuff. They're
telling better stories as of right now, but it's still
not getting anywhere, and it seems like it's not going anywhere.
And I feel like when you keep doing the same
thing over and over again, which they are, and it's
better than what they used to do, but they're still
doing the same thing over and over again, that's the
definition of insanity. And maybe it's time to give it up.
What do you think about it?
Speaker 3: Well, well, they're not going anywhere because the network they're
on bought them specifically to air on the network. So
you know, that's a pretty good long term investment there.
As far as the Jay White stuff, I didn't you know,
we didn't really get to see enough to make any
kind of judgment about it. I'm really going to be
interested to see what Impacts ratings are Thursday night and
what level of interest this level of New Japan working
together with Impact to have someone like Jay White on
the show, how far that gets Impact Wrestling and the
Impact TV show. In terms of the number of viewers
gained over the usual, they have made gains viewership wise,
especially in the eighteen to forty nine demographic, especially when
Kenny Omega is on the show. They have made significant
gains in pay per view buys when Kenny Omega is
on the show, So you know they're they're increasing the
money they're bringing in for sure. But ultimately, and I
think this is where people have a concern is you're
not gonna have Kenny Omega forever. You know, you may
be able to work with these companies, but ultimately you
want to present your wrestlers and your company in a
way that even if Kenny Omega isn't on the show,
even if you're not having an active working relationship with
New Japan, that fans are going to want to watch
your show for the wrestlers that you offer, for the
storylines that you offer. And I don't know that we've
gotten to that point with Impact yet. I think a
lot of people still tune in to see Kenny Omega
to see the forbidden door just get blown open with
New Japan stars and now NWA with thunder Rosa on
there and Mickey James on there on the pay per view.
So this is a real opportunity for Impact to spotlight
its own stars and to give fans a reason to
keep coming back and watching Impact even when the day
comes that Kenny Omega is non on there, or that
a bunch of other wrestlers from other companies aren't on there,
And we just don't know what that's going to look
like yet because they're still in the midst of working
with these companies. So I'm sort of trying to give
them the benefit of the doubt here, but I haven't
really seen Impact do a lot different in terms of
pushing wrestlers or the stories that they're telling with their
own wrestlers to try to get those lukie lose to
stay around for after you know, the post Omega era
of impact wrestling, so you know, it remains to be seen,
but it's a story worth tracking. And like you said that,
the more places people have to work the better. So
I'm certainly not wishing ill of impact or anything like that,
but it's something worth monitoring. Darrell. I appreciate you calling
in and good to hear from you again.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I'm trying to make sure I reach out
on most Sundays instead of just these playing view nights,
but thank you for taking my Callague. I know, like
me and you, we both I don't know if you
back in started school yet, but that they had me
as a twelve month employee yet, so it'll teachers in
the morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's coming soon for me. I think I
got about two weeks left, so it's it's around the corner.
But appreciate it, Darrell, Yes, sir, all right, so let's
go back to our emails. This is from Zach in Texas.
He says, Greg, the women's matches on this show were
quite the indictment of WWE's booking throughout the pandemic era.
The women's money in the bank was rough, the crowd
was in and out on it, the finish was flat.
Nicki scaling the ladder and grabbing the briefcase while the
six women continue to fight atop the ladders made those
six women, particularly the ones nearest Nicki, look like absolute idiots.
The decision to have Nicki win in and of itself
was puzzling. WWE's goal lost my spot here. WWE's goals
should be to get the Raw women's title back on
the greatest of all time, Becky Lynch asap. Nicki as
a babyface isn't gonna cash in on Becky, and Becky
shouldn't lose until WrestleMania. That means Nicky's gonna hold it
for ten months at least. Speaking of Becky, the Goats
was the most overperson in the Charlotte Rea match, which
is proof positive of how badly they botched that feud.
Ria dropping her second title to Charlotte in fifteen months
just for Charlotte to be a transitional champion is insulting
to both women. Ria is owed owed the win over
Becky at Mania. At this point, the raw women's division
is a mess, and Becky's likely returned tomorrow cannot comes
soon enough. So to that, I will say once again,
I don't think it's automatic that the title goes on
Becky right away. I don't think you have to do that.
You can present Becky as the biggest star even if
she's not champion. WWE has done that with other wrestlers,
male and female for a long time. As far as
Ripley being owed a win over Becky Lynch, nobody's owed
anything in professional wrestling. I think Ripley has been dealt
a bad hand at times, but that's just the nature
of the business. Sometimes you're on the wrong end of it.
I thought that, yes, Becky Lynch was the most overperformer
in that match at first, but as we've spoken about
throughout this show, I thought that Riha and Charlotte sort
of brought the crowd back around by the end of
the match. So NICKI getting the briefcase and who she
cashes in on, I think that's you know, if Becky
comes back tomorrow and doesn't win the title right away,
I think she's probably gonna win the title down the line.
So Nicky's opportunity is to really cash it in on
Charlotte while Charlotte has the title. So that way you
may see Nicky's cash in come sooner than Big Ease.
And you know, that's just kind of me reading it.
He leaves here. That's that's a little bit about how
I see it. We'll go back to the phones here
the six two three area code. I believe this is
Brian from Phoenix. Is that correct? Hey?
Speaker 11: Greg? Yeah, this is Brian from Phoenix Senior. I'm sorry
thirty years senior PW tows VP subscriber. I hope you
have a good night and a safe trip tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian, and thank you for being such a
long time subscriber to the Torch. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 11: I appreciate your hard work, Greg, and I will keep
this short because, like you said, I want you to
get at least an hour or two of sleep. Will
forget to actually go to the airport.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be nice. I don't know though, I
still got a little packing to do.
Speaker 11: Well, You're able to stay up at this brain and
try to sleep on the plane.
Speaker 3: So I'm a very agree. I'm a very light sleeper,
so I don't really sleep on planes all that much.
Although if I'm really tired, which I could be tomorrow morning,
it might be enough to do the trick.
Speaker 11: I think so, I think so, I think so good.
So the first thing I'll talk about again, I'll keep
all these I'll keep my two points brief is about
Peacock Network, like kept Reverend Keith said, I this is
the first time, you know, I've had a problem with Peacock.
I actually go through uh my cable is Cox Communication,
and we have Peacock Network comes free for Cox Communication customers.
And this time I watched it through the Cox cable
box and that way is a little bit clunky to
get to it, and it's and it's slow, and same
thing like everybody else. When it had that Applebe's commercials,
when mine started hiccupping, I said, And then you know,
by the time we got to the men's interests, men's
money bank interests, it just got to be trash. I
just turned it off and turned it and came back
on again, and I had a problem. But that was
really the first time. You know, I'm not a power
Peacock user. You know, you know I've watched the pay
per views and everything. But and I watched all of
the you know, I could talk about the exclusive VIP
program PW tows NXT eight years back with with Kelly
and Tollack, and I interrock with that show a lot.
And I've been watching NXC eight years ago TV shows
and I had a problem with Peacock at all using
it that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got Peacock here free with Exfinity. We actually
don't even have Exfinity cable. We've just got Exfinity Internet
and they still give it to us for free, which
is a nice deal. And the only thing I use
it for is is the WWE pay per views. Although
I have been seeing commercials for a very interesting show
on Peacock and I can't remember the name of it.
It's the one that's been advertised all over there with
Alec Baldwin and Joshua Jackson.
Speaker 11: Doctor Death.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Doctor Death. I knew it was the Doctor Something. Yeah,
that looks really good, so I'd like to check that out.
But to this point, I've only used Peacock for wrestling,
and like I said, I've not had a problem with
it going through the Roku box that we have. So
tonight was the first major issue I had and it
wasn't just me, so that that's reassuring to me.
Speaker 12: Ay stuff, do you ever watch a WWE and think
it used to be better?
Speaker 13: I don't know, josh Sometimes I think it used to
be a whole lot worse.
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Speaker 13: Events, old dudes at the.
Speaker 12: Top, too many titles.
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Speaker 12: Worse or Better Finally something for wrestling fans to do
on Monday nights.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Like like Reverend said, yeah, and you said as well,
like the internet did blow or an Internet tutter did
actually blow up.
Speaker 3: Because of that.
Speaker 11: So my question is I always like to keep it
with the pre show and this pre show match was
a little more important than the majority of pre show
matches that we have, and with so with Dominic and
Raymonds Stereo going up against the USOS, I was a
little you know, I never really surprised surprise when a
title changes hands because to me, I always the way
I look at wrestling greg is that there's always to
me a little bit of twins that something could change,
you know, like I was sure that, you know, Romean
was gonna beat Edge, and I was sure that Bobby
Bobby last she was going to be Kope Kingston. But
still there's that little bit of doubt that could happen there.
And I've always definitely been my wrestling fandom, so as little,
I will admit I was a little bit surprised that
the usso's did win, but I knew they had a
good chance because to care along with the storyline, I
did like Rand Dominic being champ being champs, and I
do like how Dominic has have progressed in you know,
the less than a year that he's really been on
TV actually wrestling. So I was gonna my question was
going to originally be what would be next up for
you know, the next uh, people challenged the Ussols, but
it looks like it's going to be mysterios because how
they helped out Edge when when the Usseles came out,
they helped Roman Raine during the during the main ement,
the main event, So to where do you see the
usle going next besides Ray and Dominic Mysterio.
Speaker 3: It did kind of feel like the Ussols almost had
to win because you should only be able to try
and fail so many times before you know there's punishment
from Roman Reigns, right because he is so big on
the USO's not embarrassing the family, and he equates losing
to embarrassing the family, which is embarrassing him. So you
know he's made that speech to Jay and to a
lesser extent, Jimmy so many times that you almost feel like, Okay,
if they keep losing, eventually, something's got to happen. The
Robbert's gotta hit the road here with with what they
talk about. So it's you understand them them winning the
titles and appeasing Roman Reigns that way, but yeah, I
it gives them a little more gravitas when they interact
with John Cena, and you know John Cena interacting with
Roman Reigns, and now he's not just interacting with Roman
Reigns the Universal Champion, he's interacting with the ushos or
tag champs. So that puts them you know, they're gonna
be seen on more YouTube videos because the interacting with
John Sena is gonna get you you viewed by more people.
So why not put the tag titles on them and
make them seem like important stars to the people who
may not follow smack Down every week or at all,
but are checking back in because John Scene is involved.
So that could be a little bit of the psychology
behind the titles changing hands.
Speaker 11: To and you know, Greg, I am going to let
you go, but you've actually made a really good point
that I think of until you just said it, is
that the interesting part is going to be how many
dates Scene is going to be around, because you know,
I know that I believe I reach somebody saying that
one of the house show, one of the house shows,
one of the house show matches that was announcement was
like was Roman and Usos versus Edge and the Mysterios
as a as a six man touched for a six
man match for one of for one of the house shows.
But I can easily see edge being taken out of
that to the few with Seth and then bringing Seena
and so I think to me, it's gonna be interesting
conversation or interesting discussion conversation. But how many day Sena
has you know? Is he gonna be on TV every week?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 11: I really doubt it, but you never know. So, and
I could see him having a TV match against one
one of the USOS or maybe that six man touch
on six man match on TV right before SummerSlam with
the with the Masterials against Roman Reigns and USOS. So, Greg,
if you want to speak about that, I appreciate it,
but I'll go ahead and let you go. Again. I
hope you have a safe trip. Hopefully you enjoy I
know you will enjoy being your family again. Always appreciate
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as always, Greg, I really appreciate it.
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in this sort of thing. I'm on Twitter as I'm
doing the show, scrolling through, and I just scrolled up
to an ad about doctor death on the Peacock Network
on my Twitter feed, so my phone obviously is listening
closely to what I'm saying here. But yeah, the number
of dates John Cena has I think you know, you
come away from this this show saying, okay, John Cena
versus Roman Rains Summers Slam Dunk, But do you do
a six man tag? Is that's there for the taking
as well? Do you try to pop a rating on
SmackDown and have John Cena wrestle prior to Summer Slam
in a six man tag with the mysterios against Rains
and the USO's. I think you know, if you're WWE,
you probably want to hold off and just having appear
on SmackDown might be big enough to keep Fox at
bay and not ask too much. But you know, you
also have to look at the potential that Fox is
gonna say, hey, we want him to wrestle. Ratings have
been down a little bit, so maybe seen wrestling pops
are rating, but that all depends on how many dates
he's aboard for. So to the email, it's got two
more to go, got one more phone call to go.
So I appreciate everybody hanging on late into the night.
If you're listening live. This is Roy from California's second email.
This is about anniversary and Money in the Bank. He says, Hello, Greg,
wanted to try to get an email in before you
go on live. I'm writing this during the main event
of Money in the Bank. Had a few topics I
wanted to share as well as get your thoughts on.
I'll try to run through them quickly. First, I thought
Money in the Bank pay per view was great for
a B level pay per view. Thought Lashley's dominance over
Kolfie really added another dimension to his character and his reign,
and feel like Rain's a new star could be created
dethroning him. Thought Charlotte was incredible and that's why she
gets the push she does. Was happy with both Money
and the Bank winners and Big E and Nikki. I
think with such strong heeled champions currently holding titles. There
are great babyfaces that could be champion. Lastly, I cheered
when Gender and Company took Drew out of the match.
Really think true after the Gender stuff, should revisit Seamus
in Battle for the US title. Overall, a great pay
per view from WWE. My other comment was regarding Impact
Slammiversary event. I read the results versus watching it, and
it seemed like it was a good show. My thing
with them is the as they generate seems to be
from outsiders, not their own roster. I'm unfamiliar with Jay White,
but I think having him appear in a ligne with
an Impact guy would do wonders compared to what they
ended up doing. I'm dumbfounded why Moose doesn't get the ball.
I question if more people will tune in when there's
a strong possibility that people who appeared could possibly appear
on Dynamite. Just my thoughts. Sorry for the long wind,
Take care, Thank you, Roy. Yeah, that's sort of what
we talked about a little earlier in terms of Impact
and you know, drawing fans in by using whether it's
Kenny Omega from AW or thunder Rosa Slash, Mickey James
from the NWA, or Jay White from New Japan or
Kojima from New Japan, who they had in the last tapings.
But for these main guys, and I think Omega's doing
it to a certain extent, although he's winning all these matches.
You know, he beat Rich Swan, he beat Moose, he
beat Sammy Callahan last night or two nights ago rather
and it's two nights ago. I guess we're past the
rubicon here on the East Coast into Monday morning. But
eventually Kenny Omega is gonna have to lose that Impact title.
How he loses it, who he loses it to is
gonna really say a lot, you know, If he loses
it to an AW guy who then loses it to
an impact guy, I don't think that speaks very well
for Impact. But who else on the impact roster is
gonna lose it to? You know? Do they circle back
around to Rich Swan at some point and have him
dethrone Kenny Omega. I don't know, But yeah, j White
coming to confront Kenny Omega as opposed to coming to
confront an impact wrestler. I think you could make the
argument it would be better. But you know, this is
this involves all three companies now, so I think maybe
that's what they were going for. The buzz of Jay
White from New Japan confronting Kenny Omega from AW on
an Impact show. Not quite you know, WCW's wrestler losing
the East CW title on an ECW show to a
WWE wrestler, But I guess it could be construed as
something similar and maybe that's where they hope to get
the buzz for. But again, if your Impact, you use
the buzz to attract fans, but when you attract them
to your TV show or to your pay per views,
you've got to offer something different than what you've been offering.
Because what you've been offering is not working. It's not
getting the eyeballs. So why you would do the same
thing with more eyeballs unless you just think people haven't
had the opportunity for some reason to check out your product,
I don't know. And I think that goes back to
what Impact is trying to be Philosophically, what what does
Impact want to be? You know what kind of company
is it? I think we know what WWE is, we
know what AW is, but Impact is still missing that identity,
especially now that they're no longer number two. We used
to be able to say, well, they're the alternative to WWE,
and that's not really true anymore. You know, AW is
the alternative, it's the number two now undisputed. So what
is impacts Niche and I think that's where they're really
having difficulty.
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Speaker 3: Back to the phones. Our final call for the evening
is the three one two area code. I'm thinking this
is Boris from Chicago.
Speaker 5: Yes, his voice was Chicago.
Speaker 3: You you called in on the John Cena return night.
This must be your dream. John Cena was Roman Reigns.
Speaker 14: Hey, I am so excited for this return. I couldn't
believe it that James carl Will returned to Double.
Speaker 3: If only then it would be like old times.
Speaker 5: Right, I got you, I got you. But he did return.
Speaker 14: James return, Well, he did.
Speaker 3: He did a he did an audio with Wade last
summer for me. I know, I love hearing him.
Speaker 15: No, no, no, he actually returned recently.
Speaker 6: Really you didn't You didn't hear the podcast yet.
Speaker 3: I heard the podcast he did with Wade the last summer.
I didn't hear any he did recently. But this is recent.
Speaker 14: Okay, this is recent.
Speaker 3: I'll checking.
Speaker 5: He was he was a correspondent.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, he.
Speaker 5: Was a correspondent for Houston.
Speaker 3: See that, Greg, You're more on the ball than I am.
Speaker 6: And you off with the excitement.
Speaker 15: I was trying to throw you off with the excitement
for someone returned to wrestling, and you put Tina and.
Speaker 5: I put James. But I well, to be honest as
a correspondent.
Speaker 3: As excited I was for John Cena's return, I'm more
excited about James's limited return.
Speaker 5: Oh it was awesome.
Speaker 14: Yeah, because that's a great perspective, you know, for a
person that's been.
Speaker 5: Gone a while from it.
Speaker 15: And it was a great perspective because, like I said,
I don't watch it per se. I listened to everybody's show,
and then I just see where we're at, you know,
and like I say, the thing, the wow craziness with impact.
I'm willing to accept impact because it's something different and
and I'm I'm I'm gonna look at it from this
point with some impacted conversity.
Speaker 5: Until they build.
Speaker 14: They start to stop these these other wrestlers was coming
in and taking over.
Speaker 6: They should continue to take over because that's a story.
Speaker 15: In itself that they don't have a person that they
built to defend off all these guys coming in, you know.
Speaker 3: But should.
Speaker 14: Let's start, Yeah, and today don't. That's That's why I'm in.
That's why you listen to what I'm saying. That's what
I mean because until they truly build somebody, this is
what this.
Speaker 3: Is not w W.
Speaker 5: We know, like you said, we know what w is
gonna do.
Speaker 14: That's why Romans on top still, and that's why Sharlotte's
on top.
Speaker 15: But the only problem with that is that Beac Lynch
is the Achilles heel.
Speaker 5: And we don't have a We don't have a male.
Speaker 15: Wrestler to to uh stop Roman rings right now because
they really don't have one they you know, as long
as Bacon Lynch is active, she's gonna beat the Dannie Bryant.
You know, we don't have a day of Brian wouldn't
have a skim pump for the mail side.
Speaker 5: But we have a Becky Lynch.
Speaker 15: So no matter who that belt is on, Bacon Lynch
will always be a threat because she's for the fans period.
Speaker 5: So we don't have that on the Mail side.
Speaker 15: Yet until they decide who they really want to get
to hide to. Actually you know, take the belt off
on the range, but with impact. It's the same thing,
but in a different flavor. We got other promotions coming
in and get to you know, have their way. This
is the story I'm allowing myself to think, you know,
but I'm liking that until they build someone to beat
these guys, they get the wrong run side.
Speaker 6: So they mean, you get to Jay Whites to come in, you.
Speaker 14: Get all these different people from different fractions.
Speaker 6: To come in until and that's the story.
Speaker 5: And it goes back and forth with a.
Speaker 6: Like I said, with Adew and all these things.
Speaker 14: But I do have something that I did get excited
for her Davey Boyd Smith j he is that.
Speaker 5: That could be.
Speaker 14: That could be that I don't gonna say that could
So I did get excited when I saw that.
Speaker 6: I was like because and that's.
Speaker 15: Sad to say that someone that was built outside of
this company makes you excited, because how how is you
can't really treat him like the like the in house.
Speaker 14: Because I'm sure, I'm sure in his contract there he is.
He got gestipulate that he gets to speak for himself
and he's not gonna be tightly scripted, you know.
Speaker 15: You know, this is what I'm looking forward to with him,
because I think he knows better. And you gotta come
in and you coming in at the top, you know
what I'm saying. So I'm excited for that. And what
if that does happen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 14: So I'll just sit back and continue watching these other
guys until we see uh, what position they would during
they they I just call him David boy What position they're.
Speaker 5: Gonna put him in? Because I was surprised for him
to retire.
Speaker 14: With the way this comedy is, and you have to
you really had to want to be here just because
you see, this company ain't built anybody. M So what
do you think about David Boyd. We'll start with that.
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued. He wrestled a dark match before SmackDown on
Friday night. I know there had been talk that he
he'd been in talks actually for quite a while I
think of coming back. I'm actually took this long for
him to return, But you know, he he had a
run earlier, very young, very early in his career, and
you know, wasn't a tag team was a very good
tag team wrestler in WWE, just didn't have the personality
really breakthrough. So I'm really intrigued this time around he's
become a lot more well rounded in terms of being
a wrestler. He's been able to work on that that
personality and work on you know, exuding a little more
charisma in places like MLW and overseas and things like that.
So I am interested to see how much of that
is really, how much of that he brings to the
table now in w W, and how different he's going
to be in this run versus what he was several
years ago.
Speaker 14: And like I said, Grell, he kind of a lot
of stuff that I was thinking about. And like I said,
with the women, Nikki is the oldest. You know what
I'm saying, Nicki is the oldest. You know, just keep
it simple. And like I said, Goldberg, wherever he fifteen.
You know, we haven't seen this before, so it doesn't matter.
So we just waiting, were waiting on a truth contender
and just the placeholder.
Speaker 6: And even with Ron Lank, anybody just stepped in front
of him.
Speaker 5: All these people are placeholders.
Speaker 15: Like I said, whoever, whoever the champions is, and whoever
they put in that if he's a return turning character
that hasn't been built to actually excite the crowd.
Speaker 5: This is just a placeholder.
Speaker 14: Just put him in there, and it was a placeholder.
So you know, we're just making up stuff as we
go until we get someone that's actually credible.
Speaker 15: And right now, David Boy is credible because.
Speaker 14: He's not here, He's not from w W, He's coming
from the outside.
Speaker 5: He didn't train and did all these things.
Speaker 15: So hopefully let's throw this and that he doesn't get
the treatment of what's his name because I just gave
up on him too and put him with swords and
all this mythical whatever. Drew McIntyre came back solid character
and they.
Speaker 6: Can't even sustain him.
Speaker 3: Well, they sustained him for so long that people got
tired of him. You know. The reaction tonight was not
very positive, but I think that's more of WWE's booking
of him than Drew McIntyre himself, because he really carried
WWE like head that through the pandemic era with his
entering work and and being champion, and hey, somebody needed
to do it, you know, somebody had his shoulder that
load and be the champion and be the star during
the most difficult era that ww he has probably been
through for a lot of different reasons. So hopefully, you know,
it's not like he has the stench of being the
pandemic champion on him. Hopefully WWE decision makers don't see that.
But you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens when
he beats through. H Sorry, Ginger Mahal, you know, does
he go to SmackDown and does he confront falls? Right?
Speaker 5: Greg falls right there?
Speaker 14: You just said Ginger Maha.
Speaker 6: That's the last.
Speaker 14: Person on his roster that you want to get, that
you want to get paired with.
Speaker 6: And you know how the fans feel about this guy.
Speaker 15: It's like it's like it's like you automatically just build
Doug his grave and he's okay, you know, he.
Speaker 14: Did all his work and then to pare him with
to pare him with Ginger mahogs.
Speaker 3: You don't see that as well. I see it as
the upside being that this isn't you know, this is
an easy feud win for Drew McIntyre because right now
he's in a tough way. He's lost to Bobby Lashley,
he's lost his title, he's sort of meandering. He can't
keep challenging for the title and keep losing, so he
needs something to do. Ah, here's a feud with the
guy Ginger Mahal. Yes, it's further down the card, but
it's a few that Drew McIntyre can win, and can
win resoundingly and then maybe he can use that to
screw board off into SmackDown and maybe face Roman reigns.
So that's the only that's the positive I'm trying to
take from it. If you're a Drew McIntyre fan, is
this could help him get his mojo back and all
of a sudden boom, once the Mahaal feud is over,
he's back. He's got that credit back that he's missing
right now a little bit, and maybe move to SmackDown
sort of freshens him up. And maybe a date with
Roman Range is not of the realm of possibility.
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Speaker 15: One more thing, Greg, And I'm gonna let you go,
and I hope I might. I'm gonna try to call
it tomorrow, but I definitely won't be watching three hours.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow's my birthday, Oh, happy birthday.
Speaker 14: But I will try to call in, Yeah, I will,
because you know, I will try to call it. But
I had my friend, which is she's a non wrestling fan,
but she has watched New Japan with me and stuff
like that. So when I told her that there's a pay,
there's a wrestling paper all the day, and I said,
I told her it was money in the bank, and
I told her to participant.
Speaker 5: And I told her that knockerm Mortar was one, and.
Speaker 14: Do you realize it toughed me to She said, oh
didn't they bury him?
Speaker 15: Oh my god, isn't there something to say that she
knew him from New Japan.
Speaker 14: And when I spoke about where he was, which I
don't watch, but but the first thing came my mouth,
didn't they bury him?
Speaker 6: I was like wow, I was try.
Speaker 5: What do you think about that? Not wrestler things? They
only watching?
Speaker 15: Student as of another person realize enough that she mentioned
a guy that she watched wrestle with me, you know
through the New Japan part.
Speaker 6: If she said did they bury him?
Speaker 5: I was like, wow, what do you think about that?
Speaker 7: Great?
Speaker 3: That's interesting. You know. I guess if you're only if
you only watch New Japan, that's gonna be kind of
you know. I I don't know how much this person,
you know, follows New Japan online and and talks with
other fans of New Japan online. But certainly if you
are strictly a New Japan fan and you see what
WW has done in Nakamura, you know, the scuttle But
amongst New Japan fans is going to be oh, they
buried him. I mean, look at look at it what
he was in New Japan, look at what he could be,
look at what he is now in WWE. You know,
if you're a New Japan fan, that's going to be
your perspective, So you know, I can't believe. I can't
be all that surprised by that, but I think that's
h that's a sad. It's sad that that fans see
it that way, although you know w W E has
done nothing with him to dissuade fans from seeing it
that way. You know, w W has brought a lot
of that on itself.
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, I'm gonna try to I will definitely. I
know it would be another another show. By the way,
when is Wayne gonna be his shake up because he's
changing the.
Speaker 5: Shoulder just about that time? Yet when I enjoyed these
because it makes an interesting thing, just chake up he
does WAYE does his take up to the shows and
the times and stuff. So I'm wondered, is it time
or we still.
Speaker 3: Got some I can barely keep track of my own show, Boris,
I'm not sure what was a show?
Speaker 14: I know you would have touched by because I'll stay
up sometimes just just to have a conversation with you know,
because I missed I missed you know, the way it
would back in the day when I first came on
board and learned, you know, I met all you guys
and stuff, like that, so I do miss how it
was really grouping. And then Wade had to do the
change up, and you know, it separates the times and
people get different jobs and stuff.
Speaker 6: But I know where you at until he change you,
and I'll come in.
Speaker 5: I'll come in and find.
Speaker 15: You and just to have a conversation whether I'm watching
wrestling or not, you know, what the what the what
you like?
Speaker 5: Like tonight, I watched it, but I just.
Speaker 14: Called it because I wanted to just coup with you,
all right, you know.
Speaker 5: Just because we like a family. Yeah, So hopefully.
Speaker 14: Like I'm like Drail, I'm gonna try tune it on Sunday,
just just to be.
Speaker 3: A void appreciate it. Boris, I'm a creature of having
so I'm gonna fight any changes. I'm I'm someone who
doesn't like change, so I'm gonna try and stick to
this time slot as long as I can. Thanks for calling, Boris.
Always good to talk.
Speaker 15: To you, no problem.
Speaker 3: And our final email question of the evening comes from
drum Roll. Please Okay, let's see it is Jason, and
Jason says, Hi, Greg, I'm not at all surprised the
USOS won the tag titles. It's the best move for
WWE as far as their current stories go. The criticism
of Jimmy being quote rewarded after another DUI is completely fair,
and I'm not saying it's right, but WWE's ethics and
morals affected. But if WWE's ethics and morals affected how
I viewed their product, I would have checked out a
very long time ago. Being a WWE fan certainly teaches
one to compartmentalize on a week to week basis. I'm
far more excited to watch aw but tonight was a
flex from WWE. When they're firing on all cylinders, they're
hard to beat. Their production and star power are on
another level. If they can get away from the formulae,
booking and poor use of talent, they could easily become
must watch again. That's like saying if well, I won't
use that phrase, but you know how my uncle could
be my aunt or vice versa. You know, it's just
this is what WWE is. They can't get away from
those things that could ultimately make them better. They're just
they're just kind of stuck. And the formulae, booking and
the poor use of talent it comes with the territory. Unfortunately,
at this point with WWE, and so that's that's kind
of what we're looking at. I I I get the
and there was a lot of complaints about Jimmy USO
winning the titles after his DUI. I hope that separate
from that, WWE is doing something that puts him on
the track to get better and and to to get
a handle on these issues. Hopefully, you know, it's something
maybe that behind the scenes that we don't see. Hopefully
this is not something that they're just you know, turning
a blind eye to, because it's very lucky that that
no one got hurt, and there's no guarantee that if
this happens again, no one will get hurt. So I'm
hoping that they're giving him some opportunity to get better
and that it isn't just WWE turning a blind eye.
We actually have one email that literally just came in.
This is from ad from High Desert, Californi. He says,
evening mister Parks definitely a good step above pay per view.
I thought the crowd wasn't as hot to start the
pay per view. Lastly got them to pay attention and
Rhea Charlotte lit the fire. I think starting it with
the women's Money in the Bank match was the wrong choice.
The women's money in the bank was disappointing. The action
and how it ended not an issue with Nikki winning,
but the spots seemed silly. Charlotte should have been dq'ed
for how she used the steps. She used it. Throwing
someone into the steps as different picking them up. Using
them would mean a DQ and she was using them kicking,
which I take as picking up. Great match. Didn't want
Charlotte to win. Where does Rihea go? Now we know
WWE has no depth and stories for women. I guess
Ria will be in an eight women tag match on
Summer Slam pre show. Glad Big Ee One men's Money
in the Bank match was really good. Would have preferred
to see the men's match first and have Biggie cash
in on Lashley tonight. Going in thought one hundred percent
Roman would keep the title, but they definitely took me
on a ride during the match and had me starting
to wonder if Edge would win. The ref bump and
no ref coming out for that long was ridiculous, and
while it didn't ruin the match, it takes some away
from how good it was. The ref bump, the USO's
mysterios and Seth interfering. All could have been skipped, no
need for it all. Seth could still come down, distracted, Edge,
et cetera. I know Roman is going to beat Sena
one hundred percent. Let's see if they can do that
ride again. They gave plenty of reasons to watch SmackDown
Sina Roman, Seth Roman, Edge, Seth Bigie, but did they
provide a reason to watch Raw? Thanks have a great night.
Thank you. I'd always always love hearing from a new
voice here on the emails and calls. Where does Reo go? Now?
I think that's a fair question. The depth of the
Raw women's division does doesn't just hurt the top of
the division, but it hurts folks like Riha, who now
you would think, have nowhere to go with the title
unless they continue to do rematches with Charlotte, which I
would vociferously argue against. But you know, does Rhea go
back into a few to Oscar? We've seen that over
and over again, So where does she go from there?
I think that's again a fair point. I made the
same argument about the ref not coming in soon enough
in the in the main event on Twitter you know,
you had I think Pat Buck was out there one
of the producers. You had others helping Charles Robinson to
the back. There's no reason storyline wise that as soon
as he came out that they didn't order a new
ref into the into the ring. So I thought that
was pretty weak. But you know, w WE is willing
to overlook some of those things in order to tell
the story they want to tell. Unfortunately, they're they're willing
to sort of ask fans to shut their brains off
and not focus on the details when they have a
place that they want to get to. So that's been
WWE for a long time now. Unfortunately, you don't go
to WWE for the detail work. All right, folks, appreciate
everybody calling in listening, whether you're live or on delay. Again,
Zach hayt Orn will be along next Sunday night, eight
pm Eastern talking to the big shows and pro wrestling,
a lot of money in the bank follow out I'm
sure from Ron SmackDown this week. We got Night to
a Fighter Fest coming up Wednesday night on AEW, so
probably some discussion about that as well. As always, thank
you for tuning in. Follow me on Twitter at Greg
m Parks and we'll talk to you again in a
few Sundays, because if it's Sunday, it's wrestling night in America.
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