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Speaker 2: return ah meyri Old candidate Corey Bowman. Corey, welcome back
Speaker 2: to the fifty five Cars Morning Show. It's good to
Speaker 2: have you back on.
Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: How's the campaign going.
Speaker 4: It's going great.
Speaker 3: We've got some great things in the works this week.
Speaker 3: We've been going out to events, but this week we're
Speaker 3: primarily focusing on volunteer So Fainby wants to get involved,
Speaker 3: I would highly suggest going to Corybone dot com and
Speaker 3: signing up there.
Speaker 4: We've got some things there will be updating this week.
Speaker 2: That's wonderful. Coreybowman dot com is where you help out.
Speaker 2: Corey Now pivoting over and you know, I just got
Speaker 2: off the phone with FLP President Ken Kober. Obviously we
Speaker 2: have an insufficient number of police officers. He was appealing
Speaker 2: to city council to get some a lateral class, meaning
Speaker 2: you going to go out and poach officers that are
Speaker 2: underpaid in other jurisdictions, already trained in a short period
Speaker 2: of training, We'll get them certified to be Cincinnati police officers.
Speaker 2: An outstanding idea. He didn't he wasn't met with any
Speaker 2: resistance to that concept, which I think is a positive
Speaker 2: thing and a step in the right direction. Although this
Speaker 2: is all obviously, this more d ship black murderer who
Speaker 2: has cut his ankle bracelet on and murdered Sarah Haringer's
Speaker 2: husband in their own home has got everybody talking about it.
Speaker 2: She's obviously raised this can talk about the lack of
Speaker 2: police presidence, and he did confirm, you know, and I
Speaker 2: think it was District one, which includes over the rhind.
Speaker 2: I mean there are only at any given time in
Speaker 2: the overnight like one or maybe two officers on patrol,
Speaker 2: which sounds insufficient to me. And that doesn't mean more
Speaker 2: officers could have prevented this from happening, but more officers
Speaker 2: on the street, generally speaking, might have resulted in this
Speaker 2: guy being picked up on an outstanding warrant, which he had.
Speaker 2: What's your take on crime in the city of Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and your take on councils. I call it silence is deafening,
Speaker 2: their lack of outward, regular vocal support. But also it
Speaker 2: isn't just this one murder. There are a lot of
Speaker 2: other murders, is can pointed out, and every single murder
Speaker 2: is impacting a family in the same way that Sarah
Speaker 2: Hanning Herringer.
Speaker 1: Rather was impacted. So what's your take on all this?
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I have a coffee shop in
Speaker 3: the West End and actually I met Patrick at least
Speaker 3: one time in our shop.
Speaker 4: I believe he came in multiple times spoke with him.
Speaker 4: This was sometime within the last year. He was very
Speaker 4: kind man, very.
Speaker 3: Passionate about what he was doing with the Fendlea movement
Speaker 3: Jim over there. So our thoughts and prayers and condolences
Speaker 3: go out to his family and his acquaintances fellow comrades
Speaker 3: because he was a veteran as well. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: our thought the prayers go out to everybody that's being
Speaker 3: impacted by crime what seems like happening every day in
Speaker 3: our city, and what ken Kober said was right. I mean,
Speaker 3: right now, I believe the numbers are there are one
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty officers understaffed, which might not seem like
Speaker 3: a big deal, but when you look at the proportion
Speaker 3: of the officers that are available for nine to one
Speaker 3: one emergency calls or for any other of those on
Speaker 3: site details, one hundred and thirty officers would be significant.
Speaker 3: And so those lateral hirings need to take place now.
Speaker 3: They need I mean that needs to happened yesterday because
Speaker 3: we're just getting started with the summer months.
Speaker 4: And then when it comes to.
Speaker 3: What happened with Patrick Herringer, I mean a lot of
Speaker 3: people are going to be bad talking the CPD with it,
Speaker 3: but we've got to also put the Adult to Parole
Speaker 3: Authority on blast here because this is something that a
Speaker 3: warr should have been issued months ago for this, and
Speaker 3: the Sheriff's Office CPD should have been notified that he
Speaker 3: cut his he.
Speaker 4: Cut his bracelet there.
Speaker 3: So these are things that we're seeing in the city which,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, if you have policies in
Speaker 3: place that do not encourage the community involvement of the
Speaker 3: CPD officers. You're going to see this because, yeah, putting resources.
Speaker 3: They're putting resources into the call center, into three one
Speaker 3: one in community involvement, into ARC officers. But these resources
Speaker 3: need to go right into the CPD and into the
Speaker 3: local law enforcement and show these officers that we have
Speaker 3: their back, and they will then give us an opportunity
Speaker 3: or they will get the opportunity to show us that
Speaker 3: they have our backs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and according to cpo's reporting about this, the parole
Speaker 2: officials they had contacted this guy six times between January
Speaker 2: tenth and February eleven, so they have regular interactions like
Speaker 2: most parle officers do. You got to meet with the
Speaker 2: prole officer on a regular basis. But when an officer
Speaker 2: attempted to see him on February nineteenth, they were told
Speaker 2: he had left before the officer showed up, and they
Speaker 2: issued a warrant for his arrest and designated him a
Speaker 2: violator at large within twenty four hours of him leaving
Speaker 2: the halfway house, where he wasn't there when his parole
Speaker 2: agent showed up. However, it's there's no information they couldn't
Speaker 2: figure out whether the Cincinnati Police Department received specific details
Speaker 2: or whether any other law enforcement agencies were told about
Speaker 2: Black's disappearance and asked to help find him. So there's
Speaker 2: one piece of missing information, and it sounds to me
Speaker 2: like they maybe they didn't. I mean, he wasn't on
Speaker 2: I didn't have a crime stop or Bad Guy of
Speaker 2: the Week on this guy he should have been.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you mentioned that.
Speaker 3: You can make him say, everybody's going to try to
Speaker 3: come out and not be an escapegoat for this thing.
Speaker 3: The ultimately the communication between the parole authority and the CPD,
Speaker 3: there's there's miscommunication here that led to him just being
Speaker 3: on the streets free.
Speaker 1: Well, and you mentioned community involvement. Community engagement.
Speaker 2: Now this is where proactive council and mayor could regularly
Speaker 2: encourage the general public to assist actively assist law enforcement,
Speaker 2: which would include, hey, we're looking for Mordisha Black. He
Speaker 2: cut off his ankle, minor, he's dangerous. He was in
Speaker 2: prison for almost killing a guy in the park, and
Speaker 2: he also happened to be he happened to have committed
Speaker 2: a burglary in May before he murdered Patrick Harringer.
Speaker 1: So you know, can you work with us?
Speaker 2: You know where he is and I'm sure someone in
Speaker 2: the city regularly ran into this guy before he murdered
Speaker 2: Patrick Harringer.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, And like what a lot of these posters
Speaker 3: said that council and the mayor have prioritized optics over outcomes.
Speaker 4: And you know, if you put out, you know, these these.
Speaker 3: Announcements, or if you put out these real statistics, then
Speaker 3: it's not going to look like we're as safe as
Speaker 3: what they.
Speaker 4: Want it to be. And you know, for months, what
Speaker 4: is the.
Speaker 3: News and what has the council been saying.
Speaker 4: Is that crime is down. But to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: nothing could be farther from the truth.
Speaker 3: If you look at certain statistics, we can see that autotuff,
Speaker 3: personal thuff.
Speaker 4: You know, you're talking about Burbley.
Speaker 3: You're talking about all these other violent crimes are skyrocketing
Speaker 3: right now. But we don't want to pay attention to
Speaker 3: that because it runs the optics of what we want
Speaker 3: to see see the city to be.
Speaker 4: But those things got to change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, notably it was widely reported. Now
Speaker 2: you brought the statistic up with canon. I mentioned it yesterday.
Speaker 2: Crime in over the Rhine specifically is up forty eight percent. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe not murders, but all other forms of crime, violent
Speaker 2: and non violent, including breaking and enteries and you know,
Speaker 2: breaking into people's cars and all kinds of that. I mean,
Speaker 2: what community more than Over the Rhine has gotten money
Speaker 2: dumped at a tax abatements and centives for rehabilitating old
Speaker 2: buildings in order to draw the urban hipsters into moving
Speaker 2: into over the Rhine because it's such a wonderful walking community. Well,
Speaker 2: the narrative doesn't work when you look at the real statistics.
Speaker 4: Well, so the statistics.
Speaker 3: That they're trying to pull out is homicide and rape. Now,
Speaker 3: homicide and rape if you look at it as decreased,
Speaker 3: but when you look at every other thing, robbers, autoet burglars,
Speaker 3: If you look at aggrevated assault, and if you include
Speaker 3: strangulation in that, then you've seen a massive increase in
Speaker 3: that as well. I mean auto thefts alone since twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one has gone up ninety three percent. Robbery has
Speaker 3: gone up seventeen point sixty seven percent. And you're looking
Speaker 3: at like I said, if you look at aggravating assault,
Speaker 3: which includes strangulation, you're up twenty six percent. So these
Speaker 3: are things all since the mayor has come into office,
Speaker 3: ever since you know, the lack of election happened with
Speaker 3: the council, These things have gone up, and I think
Speaker 3: that will reeping. What these policies basically are implemented now.
Speaker 3: It does not involve the CPD in the community.
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 3: It creates this disconnect between the community they serve and
Speaker 3: the police officers, and because of that, they're not able
Speaker 3: to do their job properly well.
Speaker 2: And then we have the we I mean, if we
Speaker 2: had a full contingent of police officers who were willing
Speaker 2: to go out and arrest people and find bad guys.
Speaker 2: We have a justice system who's failing the community as well.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office under
Speaker 2: its current administration, but we all know about the liberal
Speaker 2: judges who you know, allow very violent people back into
Speaker 2: the community with no bond, and then when it comes
Speaker 2: to sentencing after a trial and conviction or a plea,
Speaker 2: they don't get very stiff sentences, which you know, that's
Speaker 2: the leg of law enforcement that's supposed to deter people
Speaker 2: from committing crimes in the first place. You're going to
Speaker 2: have to pay if you commit crimes. Well, people aren't
Speaker 2: having to pay, no, and.
Speaker 3: We'll actually the community's paying for it, because that's what's
Speaker 3: ended up happening. Weeks ago, I would send a video
Speaker 3: of a park near the over the Rhyine area where
Speaker 3: two suspects they had a target in a park.
Speaker 4: Well, there was families, it was a nice day in
Speaker 4: the weather, and.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of people outside. They go up
Speaker 3: and fire up this park because of one target in
Speaker 3: the park.
Speaker 4: And I'm seeing these videos.
Speaker 3: Of like mothers holding their children and just like ducking
Speaker 3: bullets in the streets of Cincinnati in broad daylight. And
Speaker 3: then you find out one of the people that were
Speaker 3: doing the firing they were released the week before because
Speaker 3: of other charges that were similar.
Speaker 2: So you mean someone committed a firearm crime, actively shooting,
Speaker 2: and was released only to go do it again a
Speaker 2: week later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're they're they're base. This is a
Speaker 3: continual basis to where the profcutors are looking in. They
Speaker 3: want to do it for a rehabilitation, They want to
Speaker 3: do it because you know that's what they say that
Speaker 3: their reasons are.
Speaker 4: But to be honest with you, these.
Speaker 3: Policies are putting the criminals right back on the streets,
Speaker 3: and a lot.
Speaker 4: Of times these are repeat.
Speaker 3: Offenders, like what we saw with the hand your Family,
Speaker 3: like we are seeing criminals that these are repeat offenders
Speaker 3: that are continuing to do the crimes and they're continuing
Speaker 3: to get let out. And then what this really does
Speaker 3: is it decreases the morale of the officers where, yeah,
Speaker 3: you might see certain statistics that are reported down, but
Speaker 3: maybe they're reported down because the officers don't see a
Speaker 3: point and booking anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, that's been a problem. The revolving door of
Speaker 2: the justice center really does de incentivize the police from
Speaker 2: having to go through all the paperwork that is involved
Speaker 2: with the resting someone, maybe for a lesser level offense. Notably,
Speaker 2: that's what people are going to get let out on,
Speaker 2: so why bother, which means that's one less statistic that's
Speaker 2: entered into the books in terms of where the direction
Speaker 2: of crime is going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is.
Speaker 3: Something that you know, as we're running for mayor obviously
Speaker 3: a lot of people jump on these cases for political gain,
Speaker 3: but the reality of it is that this is why
Speaker 3: we're running. We've seen things in our city over the
Speaker 3: years that we're just not happy with and We're running to.
Speaker 4: Be able to give people a choice.
Speaker 3: And one big thing about what we're running for is
Speaker 3: mayor is to be tough on crime and to be able,
Speaker 3: and even just about being tough on crime, it's about
Speaker 3: re engaging the police officers into the community. I might
Speaker 3: sound like a broken record sometimes, but I continue to believe.
Speaker 3: I'm going to continue to stand that we need to
Speaker 3: with the call center back in the hands.
Speaker 4: Of the police officers.
Speaker 3: We need to be able to dispatch officers not just
Speaker 3: for the worst case scenario, but they need to be
Speaker 3: actively involved in these communities, in these businesses. They need
Speaker 3: to be walking on the streets. Our city needs to
Speaker 3: know that the police officers are there for us well.
Speaker 2: And as Ken pointed out, the number of police officers
Speaker 2: that actually respond to nine to one one calls is
Speaker 2: the problem.
Speaker 1: We don't have enough of them. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: administrative folks in there.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of folks behind the scenes, you know,
Speaker 2: doing behind the scenes criminal investigations and that type of thing.
Speaker 2: The Special Crimes Unit. They're not responding to nine one
Speaker 2: one calls. They're not the officers that show up at
Speaker 2: your door when you call nine one one that's where
Speaker 2: we have an insufficient number and we need to do
Speaker 2: something about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the number is so last time I checked, it
Speaker 3: was one hundred and thirty that was short. But when
Speaker 3: you look at the officers that are available for nine
Speaker 3: to one one calls, that's two thirds.
Speaker 4: So we've got two.
Speaker 3: Thirds that are less of what we need to be
Speaker 3: able to answer these calls in a timely basis. And
Speaker 3: so when you look at the numbers, a lot of
Speaker 3: these administrative officers are a lot of these other officers
Speaker 3: that have different duties a short amount. If you if
Speaker 3: you look at one hundred and thirty officers that are
Speaker 3: short in the staffing, that's a very significant number.
Speaker 4: When it comes to the nine to one to one.
Speaker 2: Emergency responsible well, and Ken said, they're going to be less.
Speaker 2: I guess another ninety three or quitting this year, are
Speaker 2: going to retire or step out, So we'll drop a
Speaker 2: low eight hundred, and that is really dangerous. Considering the
Speaker 2: city as a population of what two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand people or so, that's eight hundred to cover that amount.
Speaker 1: That's not enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got three hundred and four thousand that live
Speaker 4: in the in the city.
Speaker 1: Oh, is it that many?
Speaker 3: We're doing four thousand live in the city limits. I mean,
Speaker 3: some people might be, you know, leaving just because of
Speaker 3: what they're seeing on.
Speaker 4: The news right now. But the reality of it is that.
Speaker 3: We're just starting the summer months. This isn't a problem that's.
Speaker 4: Just going to fix itself.
Speaker 3: We've got to be very proactive right off the bat
Speaker 3: if we want to see saved June, July, and August
Speaker 3: in our city.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Put an exclamation point on that. When the summer heat hits,
Speaker 2: crime tends to go up statistically proving Corey Bowman dot
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Speaker 2: my listeners and me today. Have a wonderful week and
Speaker 2: a good luck on the campaign trail.
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