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<v Speaker 1>For what's developing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just developing out of the Middle East now

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<v Speaker 2>right down, it's developing.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five krc the talk station height O five a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five KRCD talk station. Brian Thomas here. Always looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to this time of the week because we get

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<v Speaker 1>I always like to start out with a suggestion. You

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<v Speaker 1>do that, you'll be glad you did. Take me up

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<v Speaker 1>on that advice, because you'll be reading at least stuff

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<v Speaker 1>about Texas and the Texas border with my guest Randy Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the bright Bart News Texas border reporter. Randy,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the morning show. It's always a pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>having you on.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Morning, Brian, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like we're pivoting away from the border itself for

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<v Speaker 1>the border related issues to talk about the floods, which

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<v Speaker 1>of course dominating the news. What an absolute outright tragedy

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<v Speaker 1>and almost even more tragic, and I don't say that

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<v Speaker 1>too seriously, the fact that Democrats are blaming Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>for the death of these young people and the others

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<v Speaker 1>who perished in the flash floods. I just beside myself

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<v Speaker 1>in disbelief that they would go that low, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a sad situation, and that just compounds it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what we know right now as of late

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<v Speaker 2>last night, we've got one hundred and four deaths in

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<v Speaker 2>six counties there in the central part of Texas. The

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<v Speaker 2>worst hit was Curville, where there's eighty four deaths. Many

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<v Speaker 2>of them were children from some of these camps. So

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<v Speaker 2>this was the perfect storm. It was the worst day

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<v Speaker 2>of the year for this to happen, and obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>hour of the day it hit between three and five

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<v Speaker 2>am on July fourth, when most folks were asleep and

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<v Speaker 2>we turned cell phones off or or you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>just get so many alerts during the day we just

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<v Speaker 2>tire of that. So a lot of effort went into

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<v Speaker 2>notifying people as far as information that came out from

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<v Speaker 2>the National Weather Service, but a lot of that came

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<v Speaker 2>out as this became more imminent after right shortly before

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<v Speaker 2>midnight and then shortly after midnight. So but you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>the miseries compounded by what we're seeing not only from

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the left, but also from some members of

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<v Speaker 2>the media who show up, you know, to these press

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<v Speaker 2>conferences that are designed to provide some information to the

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<v Speaker 2>public by county officials and city officials, and in some

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<v Speaker 2>cases it appears they're being heckled more than they are

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<v Speaker 2>being asked questions at times. So it is it has

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<v Speaker 2>become politicized unfortunately many instances, you know, in today's day

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<v Speaker 2>and age.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're right about your observation in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the time that there's like there's a warning, there is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, alerts that go out. There's sort of gradual, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we might expect some flooding, be you know, aware that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a potential for flooding, and then it moves

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<v Speaker 1>over to what an outright emergency where yes, it's flooding,

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<v Speaker 1>get the hell out or and all those came in

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<v Speaker 1>over time. Twelve hours was the beginning of the notices,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was of course during the day obviously people

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<v Speaker 1>were in a position to be able to get that information.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the middle of the night, four am when

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<v Speaker 1>you send out the emergency alert, I understand not only

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<v Speaker 1>were obviously people asleep, but this was in a low

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<v Speaker 1>communication area in terms of cell phone connections and the like,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's possible that they maybe even didn't get an alert.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct. And some of the camps, they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they pull the cell phones from the children attending, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for good reason, because they're there for you know, wholesome

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<v Speaker 2>activities and kind of get away from that. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>camps are Christian camps and you know, and the adults

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<v Speaker 2>are watching over them. You know. The camp there was

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<v Speaker 2>most impacted camp missed it. Their director, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>camp's been in their family since nineteen thirty nine, lost

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<v Speaker 2>his life trying to save these poor children. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a tragedy. But that tells you the likelihood

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<v Speaker 2>of a flood event like this happening. That camp was

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<v Speaker 2>established in nineteen twenty six. We've had ex presidents Lyndon

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<v Speaker 2>Baines Johnson send his daughters there. Laura Bush worked there

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<v Speaker 2>as a camp counselor. So it's a prominent place. They

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't put the children in harms way on purpose, we

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<v Speaker 2>know that. So to politicize it is absolutely despicable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in hindsight, of course, is twenty twenty. I've read

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<v Speaker 1>an article in fact on Breitbart, a discussion with Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>County Judge Rob Kelly, who apparently has property that was impacted. Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>the county's top elected official, edited that a flood warning

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<v Speaker 1>sirens system was in consideration to be placed along the

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<v Speaker 1>now devastated Guadalupe River before he was in office, about

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<v Speaker 1>six years ago, but it was never executed. He's quoted

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<v Speaker 1>to saying we've looked into it before, but the public

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<v Speaker 1>reeled at the cost. So there was a reason and

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<v Speaker 1>a motivation to talk about a public alert system because

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<v Speaker 1>this has happened before in that particular area, has it

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<v Speaker 1>not well?

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<v Speaker 2>So there have been floods all throughout the region. Right

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<v Speaker 2>the Gualla Loupe is just only one river that traverses

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<v Speaker 2>that area. You've got the Blanco, the Frio, the Medina.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got tons of rivers in this hill country area.

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<v Speaker 2>And where rainfalls impacts. What areas are going to flood?

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<v Speaker 2>Low lying areas, low water crossings on tiny roadways, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're subject to flooding almost with any amount of rain.

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<v Speaker 2>The last major event was in nineteen eighty seven where

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<v Speaker 2>a loss of life, you know, close to this occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten children from a camp were lost when they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to evacuate. So the second guessing, if you put

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<v Speaker 2>an alarm system and you start moving children in a

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<v Speaker 2>big storm like this, you may lose some in the

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<v Speaker 2>evacuation process if you get them out. There were seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty you know, girls at that camp, so

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<v Speaker 2>you can imagine what it would take to evacuate those

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<v Speaker 2>folks in short order. The chaos caused by that, getting

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<v Speaker 2>buses in order and moving in on those roadways. The

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<v Speaker 2>bridges were all but washed out to that camp, so

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<v Speaker 2>if they would have tried to leave the area, they

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<v Speaker 2>may have suffered. If they have gotten without shelter up

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<v Speaker 2>on higher ground, you have lightning strikes. So this was

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<v Speaker 2>just the perfect storm. And you know, we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>look at this and decide. I think, you know, are

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<v Speaker 2>people going to begin to ignore a siren that may

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<v Speaker 2>go off two or three times a month and not

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<v Speaker 2>materialize into flooding where they are at. That's human nature

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<v Speaker 2>and that has to be looked at in the light

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<v Speaker 2>of day. But when you do that, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>leave politics at the door when you go in to

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<v Speaker 2>discuss this and come up and formulate a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt about it. I thought there was an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>observation from Brian Stetler over at CNN. He said warning

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<v Speaker 1>fatigue was being cited by quite a few experts as

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<v Speaker 1>one of the causes of the disaster. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily draw a correlation between warning fatigue and the disaster,

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<v Speaker 1>but insofar as he said, when everything is labeled extreme weather,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing seems extreme anymore. And I think there's a good

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<v Speaker 1>point to be made there, because you know, it's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hour day shock and on news, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>even like the weather channels like, oh my god, we're

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<v Speaker 1>all gonna die. Hurricane season. Yeah, there's like nine thousand predicted.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. And you know, they predict these dires

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<v Speaker 1>weather events and quite often they don't manifest or materialize,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like, all right, there's another crazy warning. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the Boy who Cried Wolf. You know, at some

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<v Speaker 1>point still you're like done with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and we see that. We saw that happen with

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<v Speaker 2>Hurricane Helene. You know, you get the warnings, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going to happen, and it materializes. Look at Katrina,

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<v Speaker 2>a complete and utter disaster. So it happens when you

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<v Speaker 2>get the warning that materializes, and sometimes it's worse than

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<v Speaker 2>what the warning is. But that's fatigue comes from not

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<v Speaker 2>just weather alerts, but you know, we get important amber

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<v Speaker 2>alerts as well. So when you're dead asleep and that

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<v Speaker 2>cell phone starts to go often you've got to go

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<v Speaker 2>to work, you're likely to just silence it because you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to think, well, I'll look at this in a

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<v Speaker 2>few hours when I wake up. Well, that river rows,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, near twenty nine feet in two hours. That

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<v Speaker 2>is extremely significant. It's the second highest level it's ever achieved.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do they have like the civil defense sirens in

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<v Speaker 1>the area there? Because I honestly, and I've said it before,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say it out loud again. We do a text

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<v Speaker 1>segment every week on this program on Fridays, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I always say, I, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't pick up a phone if I don't recognize the number,

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<v Speaker 1>I just let it go into voicemail. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night, I want to get a good

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<v Speaker 1>night's sleep, so I keep my phone off, So if

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<v Speaker 1>someone's trying to reach me, they're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to. But I could be awakened by a civil

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<v Speaker 1>defense sirens screaming and going off in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the night. That's like a backup system for us. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything like that in that general area?

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<v Speaker 2>No, And that's what they were proposing, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>have added that was going to cost a million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>was actual audible sirens because in that river bottom and

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<v Speaker 2>I experienced that watching you know, this unfold the following

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<v Speaker 2>day and you know, seeing the rescues come in and

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<v Speaker 2>you get on that river bottom and even the authorities

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<v Speaker 2>had to beg bar and steal to get some starlink

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<v Speaker 2>apparatuses to get out some of those areas because the

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<v Speaker 2>towns are not gigantic towns. You move away from the city,

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<v Speaker 2>that river stretches two hundred and thirty miles to the

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<v Speaker 2>Gulf of America. Now, so if you move out of

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<v Speaker 2>those cities yourself, one coverage drops. If you move into

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<v Speaker 2>that river bottom, which can be up to a quarter

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<v Speaker 2>mile wide, that's it. You kind of lose signal in

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<v Speaker 2>some of those spots.

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<v Speaker 1>What also was overwhelming was the just absolute volume of water.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I've seen other floods before, and I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed by the amount of water that can accumulate, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the amount of time that it accumulated, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that it came out of nowhere and the river rose

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<v Speaker 1>what twenty six feet in a matter of forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And so that's why this was the perfect storm,

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<v Speaker 2>because if that storm had dropped that water, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>several miles to the east or the west, or just

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<v Speaker 2>downriver of Kurbville by just a mile or two, we

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<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't be speaking right now, because that water was

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<v Speaker 2>directed into that particular waterway by two offshoots that feed

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<v Speaker 2>into that wadlupa river just upstream of Hunt. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was the worst place, worst day, and the worst hour

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<v Speaker 2>for it to happen. And being that the camp's been

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<v Speaker 2>there since nineteen twenty six and in the same hand

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<v Speaker 2>since nineteen thirty nine, tells you nobody expected since that

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<v Speaker 2>day that this was going to endanger that many girls

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<v Speaker 2>that were camped in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a tragedy and we've lost the life is

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<v Speaker 1>now north of one hundred and there are still how

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<v Speaker 1>many people missing at this point, Randy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the big question. You know, we know from

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<v Speaker 2>the camp we've got ten girls and one councilor they

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<v Speaker 2>still have folks that remain unidentified that they have recovered

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot of this area, especially along the wall

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<v Speaker 2>A Lupe, the cities and towns like Kurbville, did not

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<v Speaker 2>get you know, horribly damaged. It's what structures were on

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<v Speaker 2>the river bottom, which mainly the camps in the RV.

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<v Speaker 2>So folks that may not have told their family they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to be at a particular park in that county.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know if they haven't shown up to work

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<v Speaker 2>and that they're added to the missing. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we suspect there's several dozen missing still and at least

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<v Speaker 2>eleven from the camp, one counselor and ten campers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and since you're familiar with the area, how difficult

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<v Speaker 1>is it for first responders and search and rescue folks

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<v Speaker 1>to get in there and scour the area? Is it difficult?

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<v Speaker 1>Generally speaking? I figure if these camps have been there

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<v Speaker 1>for that long, they have to be released somewhat readily accessible, well, so.

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<v Speaker 2>They aren't in fair weather, when the roads aren't destroyed,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get into Curval. It's off Curveling Comfort sit

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<v Speaker 2>right off by ten, so it's an easy drive from

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<v Speaker 2>San Antonio sixty mile. Then you're going to be hoofing

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<v Speaker 2>it on foot through that river bottom to conduct searches.

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<v Speaker 2>But the searchers are in the water, in the air,

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<v Speaker 2>on horseback, you name it. A multitude of federal agencies.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the good that I witnessed. The volunteers coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got fire department from Mexico coming. I hear there's

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<v Speaker 2>some coming from California to help. That's the good. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you start getting towards Hunt and Ingram, some of

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<v Speaker 2>those roads were damaged and they had to air drop

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<v Speaker 2>supplies into those kids. The ones that survived a flood,

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<v Speaker 2>there were eight hundred and fifty rests. Is just within

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<v Speaker 2>the first twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, well, it's I appreciate your reporting on this and

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<v Speaker 1>you're updating us on the situation. Randy Clark Border Expert.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I pivot over just for a brief moment here?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the border crossings have virtually ended? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration has virtually has basically stopped people from

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<v Speaker 1>getting gaining entrance into our country. Is there a noticeable

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<v Speaker 1>like change of attitude improvement, a general up up uplifting

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<v Speaker 1>feeling in the general in the area based on the

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<v Speaker 1>population and what they're experiencing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeh see, you don't hear very many border residents

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<v Speaker 2>complaining that the border's not wide open. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>them have lost sleep for the last four years from

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<v Speaker 2>the Texas Real Grand Valley all the way to San Diego, California. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so the morale is better on the border troll on

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<v Speaker 2>the line. But if you see yesterday we had that

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<v Speaker 2>nut attack one of the facilities for the bordertroll and

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<v Speaker 2>McCallum Texas. You see what's happening in La with Mayor

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<v Speaker 2>Karen Bass trying to shoe off the agents, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know what's the officer was shot in Alvarado. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the left creative situation that's almost as dangerous to

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<v Speaker 2>the agents. That's what they were facing by an open border.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is night and day for the residents. In

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<v Speaker 2>some areas, they're less than five to ten crossings and

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<v Speaker 2>places there used to be five thousand in a day.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is night and day difference at the border.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was all done with messaging and an effort

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<v Speaker 2>to enforce the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Trump's certainly following through what he campaigned on a

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<v Speaker 1>campaign in terms of shutting down the border that was

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<v Speaker 1>wildly successful. Even along the southern border. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times article about that. I just commented some

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<v Speaker 1>of the quotes from some of the Democratic representatives there

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<v Speaker 1>that seemed like, oh my god, you know, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat now forever, and look, Trump took all of the

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<v Speaker 1>border counties and it was an amazing turnaround. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of having a come to Jesus moment on their

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<v Speaker 1>position on border security, recognizing the vast majority of Americans

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<v Speaker 1>want a crackdown on border security.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I'll tell.

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<v Speaker 1>You what, it is always a pleasure talking with the

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Border reporter Randy Clark. Thank you for the time

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<v Speaker 1>you spent my listeners of me today. Keep up the

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<v Speaker 1>great work at Breitbart. I'll look forward to another edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Inside Scoop next Tuesday. Take care of my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian, have a wonderful day.

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