Speaker 1: Yo, What up?
Speaker 2: Boys?
Speaker 1: How's it going? And welcome back to another episode of
the One Piece Virgin Podcast? Back again Mac unfortunately could
not make it, but we do have our virgin Poseidon.
Speaker 3: How you doing Hi, I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Well we are on Baratier boys, and we
have a special guest today, Axel beats my man, it's
been a minute.
Speaker 4: How you've been fantastic? Really excited for Barrontier. It's one
of my favorite early arcs. I think there's so much
to talk about for this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely the arc that got me into One Piece.
But let's start off general, Poseidon, how are you feeling
about One Piece in general? And the arc put Brotier.
Speaker 3: I will say this was probably my favorite arc so far.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 3: I really really enjoyed Brotier overall. I don't know. I
just really like the concept of a of a restaurant
at sea and then somebody like Don Kreek, who is
the basically king of the Yeah, finally going toe to
toe with Loofy. I think now that the steaks are up,
we are now seeing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, staks are definitely getting higher compared to compared to
what Claw hoador or whatever the hell is name is.
But yeah, Brontia is great. Zora was your favorite character.
Has that changed?
Speaker 3: No it hasn't.
Speaker 1: Ah, Okay, it has not.
Speaker 3: I will say, uh, the introduction to Sanji uh probably
put him to number two.
Speaker 1: Right now, let's go.
Speaker 3: Really enjoyed Sanjy a lot, but this, I will say
this arc was the arc that made me cry. I
feel like every other episode.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that'll happen, especially with the backstory, like
that's brutal.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's start from the beginning if
you want to take us through some of your thoughts
and your favorite moments.
Speaker 3: I did some bullet points for like things that I
thought of each episode. So I'm gonna start with episode
twenty I. So that was an episode where there was
slight foreshadowing with I don't remember the guy's names. I
do apologize buddies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my goats.
Speaker 3: The MVP is for this arc. They were the real heroes.
I loved how in the beginning it kind of like
foreshadowed a little bit of what was gonna happen with them,
you know, kind of starving, one of them having scurvy,
and the importance of like having food and all of that,
and it kind of foreshadowed like don Kreeg's crew, despite
them being like a huge probably the strongest crew in
the East Blue, something like starvation could take them out.
So it was a kind of cool foreshadowing. And it
was the introduction to Sanji. So I put down my
first impressions of Sanji, so I'm gonna read it off.
It's a tough guy, energy, a bit mysterious looking, super
badass with his footwork and cooking skills and takes a
lot of pride in those. And then I put probably
bumped himself up to second favorite character thus far. Well, yeah,
so I was a great first impression.
Speaker 1: Ah so wait, what what is Sondy's first impression? Is
that him beating up the the Yeah, full body, he's
a he's a lieutenant and bro I love it, Like,
I completely understand he wasted food, so so Sondia kicked
his asked. But also Sondi straight up just try to
steal his girl like.
Speaker 4: Christic Wine so that he could like impress the girlfriend
and son just like no, fuck you.
Speaker 2: Could have whatever. Yeah, totally throws that out too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, great great introduction. I love Sondy. I mean
at this point in the story, for me, he was
my favorite character.
Speaker 3: Oh really, what was it that caught like your eye
for him? Like, what was it that made him automatically
your favorite.
Speaker 2: Fuck boy energy?
Speaker 1: I think like he's just like so one thing you'll
notice throughout the series, and he's I feel like this
version of Soanji matches the live action pretty well because
his first introduction and he's he's so badass and like
he's he's trying to like he has he has riz
and he's smooth. But then like the immediate comedic like
counter counterpart when he like sees no Ami but then
like talking talking ship to the boys like Lufy and
USAP immediately is so good. Like I love the contrast
between his character.
Speaker 3: He has very different sides, yes, yes, yes, yes, very complex.
Speaker 1: And then his backstory just hit me the hardest up
until this point, like Bratievo got me into one piece.
So I think maybe I'm biased, and that's why Sonji
became my favorite at the time, because his backstory compared
to any backstory we had prior to this is just unmatched.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's he Oda changed his style of writing
backstories when he got to Sonji.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like the first one we had.
Speaker 4: Was Zoro's backstory with Kuena, which we actually don't get
until almost this point in the manga.
Speaker 2: But it's kind of like there's a lot of levity.
Speaker 4: In it until she falls down the stairs. And then
we had Usops who just like his mom is sick,
which like the entire thing is said, but like there's
not we don't really focus on it at all.
Speaker 2: It's like a three panel thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Sanji is like the first time that he
actually took time to like focus on, Like, hey, we
got four or five episodes here, We're just gonna watch it.
This kid suffer for a bit, Yeah, and like it
just tears you apart.
Speaker 3: It does. Oh my god, I cried so much during
this sanjy backstory episode.
Speaker 4: I have a.
Speaker 1: I have a quick thing I want to point out,
so poseidon Prior to watching One Piece, she did watch
the One Piece live action. Okay, how much of a
like difference like they completely glossed over brought yea compared
to the live action in the anime. Oh, how do
you feel about that?
Speaker 3: I kind of like now watching the anime, I really
do wish they did spend more time in Baratier, like.
Speaker 1: I know, like Don Cruise. Yeah, I mean, I think
the live action did a good job on Sierra Village
and Orange Town. But at the same time, like I know,
they did a decent job with like Snji's introduction in
his backstory. And I know a lot of people don't
love Don Kreeg, but I think this arc in general
is just important. I don't think it should have been
glossed over like it was.
Speaker 3: Don Creek did have a brief appearance in the live
action for like.
Speaker 1: While, Yeah here Hawk, Yeah straight up got a wreck
by me Hawk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just more so he was more so
just like a little cameo during Mehawk's introduction. So, I mean,
I don't lie like as much as like Don Kreek
is the strong guy, I don't think he was my
favorite like villain so far. I kind of like Crow
just a little more. I don't know, Maybe I just
thought Don Creig was a little bit annoying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Don Creek is just generic, but at the same
time it is nice to see like a ruthless pirate.
But yeah, definitely not my favorite by any means.
Speaker 4: So Kreegan kuro Uh act as a way to show
Nami that Lufy's a different kind of captain than most pirates.
Speaker 2: She's experienced with, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 4: So like when you look at kuro he's like killing
his own men, like it doesn't matter. He completely plans
to abandon them the second he gets there. When you
meet Kreig, he's like this towering guy in this gold
armor to protect himself while showing off everyone else. He's
like like he's the shit, Like look how cool I am.
But like Lufy doesn't care about showing off. He doesn't
care about like anything that these two are all about.
And like when Kreig wants to fight someone, he sends
in his men. When Lufy wants to fight, he's like,
I'm going in first. Like every part of their mentality
about what it means to be a leader is opposite.
It's it's interesting, and like specifically how Namis interacts with
them as well.
Speaker 3: I will say I did wish to see Nammy a
little more involved in this arc. I understand that she
did kind of just abandon all of them, just stole
the go Mary and was like, see you guys, I'm
gonna do what I need to do. But yeah, I
was hoping Nommy could at least witness of some of
the battle going down. But I'm pretty if I remember correctly,
she like left.
Speaker 1: Pretty early on. She leaves pretty early on, honestly, Like
you mentioned, it was pretty good foreshadowing with like the
Scurvy and Yosuku and Johnny. But they also dropped the
wanted posters and you see arlong right, Oh yeah, and
that's not a spoiler because you've seen the live action.
She knows that where Noami's going, right, and you get
to see Nami's reaction when she sees the poster, And
I think, I think, honestly, a very well written arc,
and like Brotty sets up a lot of things very
well from the get go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something I want to say, like with One Piece
in general, I'm now thirty episodes in. I love the
world building in this. Yeah, you don't see it done
as well in a lot of animes like One Piece,
So I really enjoy that. Uh what else? What else?
Speaker 1: Let me kind of yeah, Well, I mean the world
building's a great point. At this point in Broughty, you
get introduced to a lot of things. We learn more
about the grand line, we see Mihawk, and we'll get
into that. I'm pretty sure they even mentioned the emperors
at the end of the arc briefly, the warlords for sure. Yeah,
but they don't mention emperors, do they. I don't believe
so Chat you know, Okay, maybe I'm wrong, but yeah,
you can learn more about the Grand Line and the
world and the system that's going on behind behind the scenes.
Go ahead, Besideon, then we'll talk about the Mihawk fight
after we need to.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was gonna talk about the Grand Line as well. Again,
when I mentioned the stakes are now getting hired. Hired,
you see somebody like don Kreeg, who is very well
respected amongst pirates, barely able to get.
Speaker 1: Out alive, rived a week.
Speaker 3: He survived a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 3: So it also kind of puts Loofy Lufy's perspective of, Okay,
this is not for the week, but he still wants
to go for it.
Speaker 1: Honestly, it was a pretty great scene when when we
find out that don Kreeg only survived the week. You
hear like usap fucking scream and then you see you
see Lufy. Lufy's like trembling a little bit, like he's
shaking yeah, and Zorro has a reaction to it, and
then it cuts to Lufy's smiling like he's trembling from
excitement like that, Like don Kree getting wrecked in a
week by a mysterious man is like got him pumped.
He's like, I'm so excited that go. This is gonna
be so fun.
Speaker 3: It's my turn now. Oh, speaking of Zoro, maybe we
can like start talking about that. Ye I, I've noticed
a little bit of a trend. I don't know if
he mentioned it in the last one, but the Zorrow
nerve almost I feel like a lot of the fight
would have been over sooner if Sorrow did not fight
Mi Hawk. Ye but I'm noticing this slight trend of
Zoro fighting in the beginning, either getting injured somehow or
taking a nap again happened in this arc. One of
the first fights was against Me Hawk. I loved Wee
Hawk and the live action he was super duper charming
though going into this, I was really happy to see
how accurate that was, how the live action accurately portrayed
the anime counterpart. Yeah, love me Hawk, and I much
preferred the fight in the anime versus the live action.
I feel like you get a little more it's more emotional.
Speaker 1: It feels more real in the anime as well. Really yeah,
which is weird because it's the live action, but it
feels more real cartoons or animated.
Speaker 3: Let me see what I wrote out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been two weeks as well since she's watched
this or like, so bear with us a little bit chat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, beer with me. I have goldfish brain.
Speaker 1: Same.
Speaker 3: Let's see. I noticed you see a little bit of
Zoro's kind of boneheadedness of whole. All right, he just
kind of goes into the fight. I mean understandably, right,
Mee Hawk is known as the greatest swordsman in the
world at this and.
Speaker 1: That's his goal. That's his goal, right.
Speaker 3: That's his goal. He made a promise and he wants
to he wants to fulfill it. So him just going
straight on and Wee Hawk taking out his little knife
and is like, I'm not wasting my big sword on you, buddy.
Speaker 1: What's the line? What's the line? It was, I wouldn't
hunt a rabbit with a cannon, wouldn't run a hunt
a rabbit with a can It is so great. Yeah, honestly,
it takes a lot of courage and like he's definitely stubborn.
But there's I can't find the word I'm looking for,
but it's it's like the fact that he runs it
to Mihawks so early in his journey and he knows
he's gonna lose, and yet he had for him, like
he can't walk away from this. He needs to take
the challenge head on.
Speaker 2: So him and Sonji actually have kind of similar moments here.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: So Zoro is all about like honor and like I
have to do this because this is important to me
and all that, right. Uh So when he sees mi Haawk,
he's like, naturally, I have to fight Him'm gonna get
my ass kicked, but like I have to do it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Sonji sees Kreig is starving, and he's all about like
the duty of serving people who are hungry.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 4: So, like he knows that Creek is gonna be a
bastard immediately afterwards, and he's like, I'm still gonna feed him,
Like he's hungry, what do you want me to do?
It's like really cool to see both of them do
stupid things that get them in over their heads in
like opposite kind of ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sticking to their morals, sticking to their yea,
their principles. Right, I always respect. I always love that
in anime.
Speaker 2: M hm, how did you idiot?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How did you get?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We got we got cool lines as well, like wounds
on the back of our swordsmen, shame fall by him
getting absolutely slashed. How do you feel about those moments?
Plus like Zoro's like kind of oath or speech to
Loofy there at the end Poseidon, So.
Speaker 3: That one I put on the little bullet point for
this episode made me cry a lot. That whole speech
of Zoro basically yelling at Lufy on like at his
worst he's injured, saying this will be the last time
I lose. I promise to you, pirate King, I will
not disappoint you. Type of speech. Absolutely just wrecked me
because it this goes to show that Zoro is Lufy's
ride or die. Yeah, he will stick with Loofy and
he he cares about him and his dream and he
wants to fulfill his dreams alongside of him. So that
made me cry. And I think that was also when
Lufy was just like, I need to do this for Zorrow.
I need I need to stop this guy for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect the loofy letting watching the duel, not
getting involved and then stepping in immediately after to make
sure like everything's okay type of thing. But he obviously
allows Zora to have his moment, and the wording of
it is just so good. Right, and it just goes
back to the first episode when Zoro's on the on
the Poles and he's like, I wouldn't have anything less
but than the the world's greatest swordsmen on my crew.
Like they had this little fun banter and then he
says the same thing like I'll never lose again, King
of the Pirates, and he had that little flashback moment
in it. It's so good. I rewatched it today and
got emotional as well beside it and so I'm there with
you and I've seen it like seven times.
Speaker 2: I think about Zoro on the Poles.
Speaker 4: Cool thing with his backstory and Sandys or not his backstory,
but how we meet him and Sonji's Zoro's choosing to
serve for thirty days to protect someone else, which is
kind of what Zef does for Sandy in his backstory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it's a lot of parallel.
Speaker 2: There's tons of parallels.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it honestly. The entire time I was rewatching
it today, I was just telling Shadom, like, this arc
is so well laid out, so many parallels, so much foreshadowing,
and just like back to back things to set up
what's what's to come. I really appreciate Brock and I
watching it again, I'm like, I understand why this is
the one that got me into one piece. It's definitely
a step above the previous ones. Yeah, I know, right.
I love that Poseidon has noticed that Zoro is gonna
be nerved. We kind of briefly mentioned it, but like
the fact that you're gonna keep on picking up on it,
it's gonna keep on happening.
Speaker 2: So I don't think he has a healthy fight into
like the new world.
Speaker 1: That you know, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, Zoro and Lufy are pretty similar
in strength, So having two guys at that level so
early on sometimes like it's like like Loofy has to
fight the other captain, so Zoro needs to be wounded.
So it starts off with Buggy stabbing him, so that
when he fights Cobbage, he's wounded homies like slipping on
oil and wounded through the Curl fight and like showing
up Leyden shit, and then now like he's already wounded
prior to fighting Mihawk and then gets absolutely shredded up
by Mehawk, so setting up for future fights, He's still
not fully recovered by any means.
Speaker 3: Something I also noted with this fight was the actual
respect me Hawk had for Zorro. Yes, he wipes him, like,
absolutely demolishes this guy, but respects his ambition and his
heart and decides to spare him for the chance to
for Zoro to train and hone his skills to him
one day they can battle again. I at this point
don't know if Miahawk's a bad guy. He's a good guy.
He's just to me, he's just some really strong dude
who just gets bored.
Speaker 2: And that's about right exactly.
Speaker 1: But pretty accurate.
Speaker 3: But I love to see that he does have respect
for his opponent. And yeah, I love I love the
interesting I'm so.
Speaker 1: Excited to see I love Mi Hawk as well. He's
so great. And the interesting thing about this that I
feel like a lot of other shows don't implement imagine
bringing like an endgame boss, the world's greatest swordsman, like
to the East Blue and introduce it shows us how
big the world is. Right before that, they're going to
the Grand Line and they say they're setting up this
Grand line, and then we have one of the endgame bosses,
like it's one of the strongest people in the world,
potentially the world's greatest swordsman, showing up to humble the
crew to show them how weak they are in comparison
and how far they have to go. Like, I think
it's such a great thing to do early on. A
lot of shows don't do that.
Speaker 3: It just goes to show how much they have to work, Yeah,
what they have to work towards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, think about their ambition, their ambitions, the world's greatest swordsman,
the King of the Pirates, like Minhawk even said, is
like to Loofy, your goal is even greater than his,
and like they're so far away, They're so far away
from it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. One of my favorite lines for me Hawk
was like they were asking like, oh, you're just gonna go,
and He's like, yeah, I'm gonna just go and go
take a nap or something along those lines. Where he's.
Speaker 4: Bye, I was gonna come and kill you, but you know,
and Mike like coming back from the grand Line on
a raft, He's like, I had nothing to do.
Speaker 2: They left. I'm gonna hunt him down.
Speaker 1: Huh. So did he float? Did he float through the
com belt? Like there's no way he went reverse mount?
Speaker 2: My bad?
Speaker 1: How the fuck did he get there?
Speaker 2: This boat might have the same thing as the.
Speaker 1: Sorry I'm I'm not trying to spoil for I was like, bro,
how did he get here?
Speaker 3: I just thought his entrance was hilarious. He was just
floating on a boat in his little chair with his
like arms crossed. Yeah up, And I thought that was
so funny, what a wonderful He's.
Speaker 1: So extra I fucking love it. I think part of
the reason why Mihawk leaves is he's realizes that one
Zorro and Loofy are at the beginning of their journey.
He respects their ambition and the fact that they have
these morals, and he I think he immediately is like,
oh good on Loofy for not jumping in the fight.
I think he leaves because he could just one shot
Dawn Creek right, like he could just kill him in
a second right, and he's like, you know what, we
need to let Loofy and Zoro the next generation deal
with this. He's like, I'm not going to interfere in
these rookies and their games. They have a long way
to go and they need this experience, is what I'm thinking.
Or maybe he just wanted a nap. One of the
two could be both.
Speaker 4: I like that he respects Loofy too, even though he
didn't fight him. He's just like, oh no, he like
understands the rules here, like this is real cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think people just immediately take to Loofy.
Speaker 3: He just has that charisma that you don't see very
often with people. Because even someone at Zora who was
so against pirates, he's like, I hunt, these guys saw
something in Loofy and wanted to join him. So it
doesn't surprise me that Mihawk kind of had a similarity.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the Don Creek versus Loofy fight,
which again did not take place in the in the
live action at all.
Speaker 3: No, Don Creek just got one shot by Mihawk and
mee Hawk, just like in the live action, what is
it he sliced his bullet or something and then just
killed killed Don Creek and that was it. You hear?
Speaker 1: So didn't he die in the live action?
Speaker 3: That's one of my chat screaming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone in my chat told me that he died
in the live action.
Speaker 3: I it's very heavily implied. You don't see him kill
Don Creek, but he's on the phone with I can
never remember this guy's name. I'm still hurry, dar, And
all you hear is Don Kreeks like screaming.
Speaker 1: True. So we don't really know if he's alive or dead? Then, okay,
we don't.
Speaker 3: He could be just really really injured, yep. But assuming
it's me hawk, don't we don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably fine. He only got shot, so he
fell down the stairs or anything.
Speaker 1: So we have we had the Zoro and can we
have a backstory already?
Speaker 2: Or is that.
Speaker 3: I don't think we discussed the Zoro backstory at all.
I don't think we.
Speaker 1: Didn't discuss it. But it's already like we've already had
his backstory up until this point, right.
Speaker 4: I think the anime shows a little bit like when
you first meet Zorro, and the manga shows it all now.
Speaker 3: It was like a whole episode for Zorro's backstory episode.
Speaker 2: Got it?
Speaker 1: Got it? God, so it has been shown. Okay, I
can't sometimes I can't remember the order of events anyway. Yeah,
Don Creek versus Loofy. How did you feel about this fight?
Speaker 3: So I I put down this was probably my favorite
fight of this series so far. Actually see Lufy like
show off his abilities at its most at this time,
his like stretchy, his strength, like him being able to
destroy Dawn Kreeg's weapon yeah within seconds is insane, Like you,
I feel like in the past arcs you did see
Loofy's like cool little antics and stuff like that, but
you don't see his like full strength until now.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, and I think that's why I was
a little bit annoyed. It was like, it's not the
best fight. It's a good fight at this point in
the story, And it annoyed me that they took it
out of the live action because here you get to
see the type of the type of fighter Lufy is.
Like in the other arts you get to see the
type of person Lufy is. I feel like in this
one you get to see the type of fighter he is.
Like there's a scene where he runs through the Smoke
gets shot in the leg a couple times, just takes
the hit. Uh Kreeg puts up like a spiked wall
and Loofy punched through, punches through the spikes. And then
you have a line from Zef like, Sonji, don't take
your eyes off this man. He's an annoying motherfucker to fight.
I don't know if he's gonna win or lose, but
it deserves our respect to watch him because Homie has
no fear and he just sends it. And I think
that's that's the beauty of this fight. You get to
see the type of fighter he is and the person
in battle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Creak's all about keeping himself alive, and Lufy's all
about like life isn't worth living if I'm not moving forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's really cool and like, yeah, fucking crees
got all this armor, all these weapons. Lucy's running around
and flip flops. Those toes are the most basic clothing
you could have, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: His flip flops and his fists, that's all he got. Yeah,
now that you mention it, I am like kind of
understanding that don Kreek does. Just his strength comes from
his weapons and armor, not from him as like a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the most part, for the most part, Like,
I'm sure he's above average and strength by quite a bit,
but he relies on tactics and armor and weapons to
make the difference.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: How do you feel? How do you feel about Sonji's
fighting style. I, I it's so silly.
Speaker 3: I think when he when you mentioned that. I a
moment I particularly remember was the two chefs, the two
bosos on the little ship and he like there's flying
through the sky about to hit Varatier. You just see
Sonji flying to the air and kick it it somewhere else,
reroute it somewhere else. And it's like, Soanji has this
type of strength. What that's crazy. I just think it's
so funny. I think it's also unique that he's just
mainly footwork.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I mean you see Loufy, he uses his fists,
he uses his double fruit powers to stretch himself, and
then you see Sanji with his like kicking and all
of that. I think it's so cool to see different
fighting styles amongst all of the straw Hat crew. As
so far zero with his swords no me, I mean
she has her little what is it? But I feel
like her strength.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's got their strength. I think that's a good, great,
great to point out. I really like that Oda did that.
It's like, so Sondy's kicking, Lufy's got a devil fruit
and he's reckless and he has all these different attacks.
Zora's got his swords, Usap has his sling shot. Like
everyone has a different fighting style and it matches their
persona right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Start of the are we.
Speaker 4: Actually see like a lot of how people are good
at different things. So like Lufy's trying to shoot the
cannon but he sucks ass at it. Who stops, Like,
let me try. I'm the best at this.
Speaker 2: He's like a great sharpshooter.
Speaker 4: He also like nails it a flag because he's better
at handyman stuff than Lufy is. Yamy knows about medicine
and scurvy and all that shit, so she's useful too.
Like it's just everyone has their own stuff. They're bringing
the table and it takes time to show it, which
is really cool.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: Without Nommy, these guys would be dead at sea by now.
Speaker 3: But I mean now, at the end of the arc,
they're like, worset, nommy, what are we gonna do. Yeah,
So I'm actually really excited for this next one. I
think it's Our Long Park, correct, yes, ma'am, Oh god,
because I already have an inkling of how Nabby story
is gonna go, and I know that's gonna make me cry,
So I'm really excited for that.
Speaker 4: I will say, I think the original story is infinitely
better than Our Long Park and the live action. Like I, oh, no,
I actively didn't like Our Loong Park and the live action.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the same stance. I'm like, you know what,
they did see your villag pretty good, they did Orange
Town pretty good, they did like Loofy's introduction pretty well.
But then once they got to Brati and Arlong Park,
that's where the anime is just six, like far better than.
Speaker 4: It, even like the changes with like Nojico and all them,
and like how they see Nami. I'm like, that's so
important to the story and they changed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well definitely that's what we're gonna be covering
either next week or the week after, depending on how
long it takes decided to watch it. So we're gonna
be on either like a weekly to buy weekly schedule.
We're covering Our Long Park next week, but there's a
few more things we definitely need to cover about this arc.
How do you feel about about Dean?
Speaker 3: I really liked him as a character. He's very complex.
I think the cool thing was you kind of get
that slight plot twist towards the end of the arc
where you find out that he is Kreeg's right hand
man and he is probably just us like like a
little maybe a little less strong, but almost just as
strong as Creek himself. But he is very He's a
very complex character.
Speaker 1: You see him, you know he I mean, what did
yeah Saundry stage it saves his life in the start.
So from that point on where he's complex because like
now he's like he's like, do I do I follow
my captain? Do I do I like maintain like my
pride and morals in that regard or my roles in
regard to someone who saved me, like.
Speaker 3: He he struggles with that, Yeah, the loyalty versus morals
type of thing. And you can like see him feel
guilty for even bringing Don Kreeg to Baratier because you
kind of Jim probably knows what is going to happen,
and you see the even he couldn't even look Sanjy
into the eye. And you know all of that his fight.
I really enjoyed his fight against Sony. Oh sorry, go ahead, No,
you're right, I was wrong. Oh pretty badass fight. I
really liked his weapon. I put that down his weapon choices.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I do like that weapon as well.
Speaker 3: But despite being ordered by Kraig to kill Sanji Jim,
can't do it.
Speaker 1: Couldn't do it because this.
Speaker 3: Is where you see him kind of go. This man
saved my life. I am not going to kill him.
He showed me kindness and I couldn't live with that. So, uh,
you see how cruel Kreeg is, right with him basically
being like, I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: Then Kreig is such a piece of ship. Imagine, imagine
being on the verge of death, your entire crews on
the verge of death, the people that give you food
and save you. You're gonna kill and steal their ship
and attack them immediately. And then your your right hand
man who's had your back forever. You like you were
about to say, I let you take it away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you see, I mean, if I remember correctly,
Jin was the reason why they were able to get
out from the Marines, right, yep, they were, they were.
He was the reason why they freed themselves from them.
So for Creed to just go around and so quickly
be like, I'm gonna kill you, it shows how cruel
he is and how And this was also the moment
where Jin probably realized, like, I I can't be loyal
to this guy anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, he still is.
Speaker 1: He still is, Like he struggles, he goes back and forth,
he teeter totters, and like it just shows what happens
when you follow the wrong man.
Speaker 2: Ye, what do you think about the moment where Lufy
decided to recruit Sanjy where like where he's feeding Geen.
Speaker 3: Like when that was in the beginning, right where he
saw Sonjy's kindness, Right yeah, everybody at the restaurant be like,
don't do it. Don't no, no, no, no, he has
to pay for it. You can't do it. I think
things Lufy looks for his people's heart, seeing their ambitions
and all that so diseased. Despite everybody telling Sanji don't
do it, he saw how kind hearted Soanjy was, and
his heart was I use that word a lot because
I feel like that's a very like if I were
to describe one piece, it has a lot of heart.
Speaker 1: Yes, it does.
Speaker 4: So Lufhy uses the same word when he's looking at
recruiting Zorro and Soanjy. Kobe's like, you can't recruit he's
a monster. He's like, no, I'm sure if he's a
good person, I'll recruit him. He doesn't care about like
anything else about him. It's just like, if he's good,
that's it. When we've seen Sonjy feeding Geen, He's like, oh,
a good cook, I want him on my crew.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Getting in trouble, yeah, he did it behind everybody's back.
He threw away all the evidence and being like, well
I can't get in trouble if there's no evidence.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Zeph would have been on the side anyways.
Speaker 1: True, true that Jeph understands because he's been through the
same situation. But I agree. I think Lufy's a good
judge of character, and it's the character that he cares about,
like joining his crew, right. And then it just also
helps that Sony's also goaded and strong. He's also a cook,
which they've been looking for, and he also has over
the chop dream to find the all blue that everyone
else thinks doesn't exist. How do you feel How do
you feel about about that as well?
Speaker 3: I kind of want to tie this in with my
thoughts of the Zef go Ahead backstory, so that entire
like it was almost a whole episode where it was
the Zef and Sonjy backstory. I love how when they
were stranded on that island when Sonji was a kid
and Zeff was still a creptain and everything like that.
The reason why Zef even saves Sonji is because he
sees somebody who shared the same dream as him.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 3: And it made me really like cry at the end
because Zef kind of gave up on that dream to
have a new dream of opening a restaurant. So they
Zeph sending off Soanjy and be like, I want you
to fulfill your dream in a sense of like I
I didn't get to have that, so I want you
to have that was Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2: Was How did Zeph lose his leg? In the live action?
Speaker 3: He got is leg stuck under some shipwreck debris underwater
and he needed to save Sony so he cut his leg.
Speaker 2: Off the live action does that too? Oh?
Speaker 3: In the are you talking about the live action. Oh,
I don't remember, uh, So.
Speaker 4: I know that the anime does the leg being stuck thing.
In the manga, it shows like he gave Soanji all
the food and ate his own leg instead, And I
think that's a real cool difference to let you know about.
Speaker 1: I think they did that in the live chat remind us,
but I'm pretty suing the live action. They imply that
he eats his leg, but in the anime they tame
it down and they make it so that his leg
got stuck or he chose like the like kind of
cut it off with like chain because they got stuck
or whatever to free himself so he could save soanjy
mm hmm. There also another thing the manga takes out
is Sonji smokes as a kid, or the manga has
the manga hasn't smoked he as a kid. With the
anime and live action take that out. Yeh, Homie's been
training as young since a young age.
Speaker 4: But the idea of like Z losing his limb there
also ties into like Loofy and Shanks as well.
Speaker 2: Shanks loses his arm.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, yeah, there's another parallel there.
There was also one scene I kind of made a
parallel how everything kind of comes full circle. How Sangy's
now the ones shaving Loofy at the end because at
the end of Creek's fight, Lufy falls into the water
and because of his double fruit powers, he's not able
to swim. So he's at the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 2: At this point, and so has Auchi, so he can't
do it.
Speaker 3: He can't. He got nerthed.
Speaker 1: So I think at that point Zrel is already on
his way to Arlong Park. Right before he Loofy fights,
Yeah fights don Kreeg. The boys start heading their way there.
There's also a cool scene where as Nammy is leaving,
she she's crying and she's like, I hope I see
those guys again.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that got to me.
Speaker 1: That scene got to me.
Speaker 4: You know where they use that exact line again later,
which line I hope. I hope when I see them
in the future they still consider me friends. Uh you
know the scene with the x's on their arms. Yeah,
word for word they use the same.
Speaker 1: Line, word for word, bar for bar. Oh my god,
that's amazing. I can play spoiler. Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's
so great. That's so great. I didn't even connect that.
We'll bring it up when the time comes, becited.
Speaker 3: We're not there just yet.
Speaker 1: We're not there just yet. Anything else you want to
talk about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say the whole Nammy thing, Like,
even though she does want to stay with the straw Hats,
she has a goal in mind and we're about to
find out in our long park. But you also see
how determined she is to get this done. Yes, I'm
really I'm really excited for that, and I'm excited to
watch how hard it Yeah, it did hit me in
the live action, so'm if you're you're telling me it's
much more like much more an anime. It's gonna get better.
Speaker 1: Okay. Another thing I want to point out is when
Nommy was crying and she's like, I hope I see
them again. She also says I just want to be free,
and that's Lufy's entire fucking character, and I think it's
so good. Yeah, like Lufy's all about freedom and then no,
me while crying like I hope I see the boys again,
she's like, I just want to be free. So obviously,
like you know what happens in the live action, but
she is not free and that's a great setup for
the next dark as well. Oh boy, and that just
like god me all sad. But what to call Let's
go maybe like think of some funny moments, Any funny
funny moments that stood out to you that you liked
in this arc.
Speaker 3: We mentioned it earlier, but the flirting that, uh, that's
Sandy absolute wrizzler and not me just like not having
any of it. Yeah, I'm excited to see their relationship
moving forward. I'm going to assume that that's gonna be
a very common thing interaction between the both of them.
M hmm. Kind of even the sequences of how ridiculous
don Kreek's armor was the fact that he has like
guns and weapons under everything. I thought that was really funny. Oh,
one thing I thought Pearl was such a dumb char is.
I was just like, what is he doing here? Is
this guy?
Speaker 4: I also like they got such like a good like
well known voice actor to play him for such a
stupid role.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: J Michael Tatum and the dubs just like he just
came off of Sebastian and they're like, I don't know,
guy who hits pearls together?
Speaker 1: Yeah? He has great lines like I hate this refined gentleman.
Speaker 3: Yeah he I think he was definitely there for the
comedic relief. Yeah, but he's just so dumb, like why
what is going on with it?
Speaker 1: So there's a sequence of events that I love in this.
In one of the episodes where Lufi's in the kitchen
and he's like just sitting there fucking picking his nose
watching people do shit, and then they're like, stop picking
your nose, clean some dishes or something, make yourself useful,
and then he gives us breaking every single dish and
they're like how many bridge dishes you have you broken
by Now He's like, oh shit, I forgot the count
and like the stupidity. So they kick him out to
make him do orders. He ends up going out there
and seeing that his all the boys are eating having
a meal, and then he does this thing where he
puts like snot in a glass and tries to get
Zoro to drink it, and then Zoro makes Loofy drink it,
and then like this is just back to back hilarious scenes,
Zef comes out toxic shit to Sangy and then like,
I don't know, I think I don't know what ends
up happening, but because of that little like fight that
they had. He offers Nami like a fruit bowl and
like a drink, and then lusofs like what about us.
He's like, this tea is good enough for you and
you'll like it. You should and you should thank me right,
and then she's like oh but and then no, he's like,
oh but the food's so expensive, and he's like, oh,
it's free for you, like the funny interactions between Nami
and Sanjie, and then he's turned his head. You guys
don't have to pay though. Yeah, it's it's so fucking good,
just back to back, back to back comedy gold.
Speaker 3: She just.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I love Soanji, Like he's just
so cool and badass and then an absolute like goofy
idiot when it comes to girls, and then back to
being like like like front like mean to the guys,
like it's it's so great.
Speaker 4: I like that because he like basically grew up with
zeph and in a kitchen with a bunch of burly men.
The way he like shows respect to people is he'll
like start ship with them. It's just like such a
funny little interaction like him and Zora going forward are
constantly doing it, but like like you said, with him
and usap, like you're still paying full price. Yeah, it's
like little moments like that show off the actually likes people.
Speaker 1: It's true. It's true, like he feels comfortable around them
to to bicker and talk shit. Yeah, which is great
because the end up he ends up joining the boys.
The interactions are gold.
Speaker 2: What did you think of the Sony's goodbye to ze f.
Speaker 3: Ooh so that was the whole kicker with the whole
like oh more tears, seeing all the cooks, you know,
acting and trying to get him to go with with
Loofy and being like I hate your food and all
of that, but they seeing them all want to fulfill
his dream and despite like they're all their banters, their
arguments and their differences them at the end seeing and
like showing their love for Sonjy and how much they
actually did care for him and want him to fulfill
like his dreams and seeing everybody wave and say goodbye,
and even Sonji getting on his knees and being like
thank you Zef for everything. Yeah, because it made me
made me very very emotional.
Speaker 1: Just such a real and raw moment, and it's like
it's such a contrast because like Jef's like real mentioned
ly without goodbyes, let alone tears, and they're just all buying,
like all crying, balling their eyes out, so Anjilie like
on his knees thanking him for everything is so good.
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's just like such a tense moment.
And then like you just hear Zef like, hey, don't
catch a cold, and it's like he does care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good old Zef, always having to try to get
the last word in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was just the whole I think I
mentioned it already, Like Zef wanting to see Sonjy fulfill
even like his past dreams, that was a huge part
of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want Sony to stay on the ship forever
trying to repay this debt. The whole reason Zef saved
him in the first place is that so he could
live his life and try to achieve that dream, the dream.
Speaker 2: That exactly that to him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like our mentors gave up something for us, Like
they don't want us to just sit here and do
nothing with the life.
Speaker 1: They gave us exactly exactly one Piece is goaded.
Speaker 3: I love it. God, Like, I'm very surprised at how
much I like, really enjoy this series and how it
compares to like more recent stuff i've watched, like I've
seen parts of I haven't finished Demon Slavor Player or
like even I was a huge fan of fairy Tale,
like when it came out, So to watch One Piece
and be like, this is so much better tell these
other enemies I've watched with just like the character building
and the world building and the development with like everything
and the foreshadowing. I love how things are getting hinted
early on and it's like now I mentally, I'm just like, Okay,
I'm going to try to remember this for later type
of thing. I feel like it's genius storytelling, but I
don't think you see very often with other animes.
Speaker 1: I love that you have this action already because like, yeah,
it has a good start, and like Bratty is like
the first really good arc that it's like, Okay, this
is peak. This has potential to be an amazing series,
butase idon't. It really does just get better and better
and better. It has its up and downs at times,
but there are so many arcs that are like ten
times better than this.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Then, Hell yeah, hell yeah. So I don't know how
many episodes for our long Park is, but it is
a little bit longer, so maybe.
Speaker 2: We do two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do two weeks. Let me just double check.
I should Yeah, I should be available that Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 3: I'm excited too.
Speaker 1: An your final thoughts, guys, axel fourteen episodes for a
long Park?
Speaker 4: Uh No, I'm just I'm glad she liked the arc
so much. Like, like you said, this is a real
turning point for one piece. So it's it's so cool
to see like everyone kind of gets hooked at the
same spot, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes like the previous like fight like before
brought looked like nothing. Yeah, and it compared to everything else. Yeah,
I mean, I but Clawdor Clawhador He's I like clawhold
Door a lot, but I don't think he is a
huge impactful villain compared to Don Kreig, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're gonna get We're getting our long next
to it's keep thong going getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 1: Anyway, My chat is so fucking funny, I'm just like,
I haven't looked at it in a while, and I
just see, like, damn he ate his leg and didn't
share any of it with soangy.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: A reguano is for savages, which is a line from
the live action Oh my god, yuess are too funny.
But anyway, boys, Axel, thank you so much for joining us.
It's it's been great, great to catch up my friend.
Thanks for having me Poseidon, thank you so much for
doing this. I'm glad you're enjoying. It's always a blast.
Check out check out the boys on Twitch and YouTube
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hope you all enjoyed it and I'll see you all
next time.
Speaker 2: Bang bye bye, bye bye