WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.719 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.519 single day on your favorite podcast platform. Well a day 6 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:17.480 for the American way right, who would have seen this 7 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:21.640 kind of not me an American born pope. Now, obviously 8 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:23.600 we're talking about a pope who has spent with the 9 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:25.920 last maybe twenty years I think in South America and 10 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:30.160 is now he became a Peruvian citizen and so but still, 11 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:33.640 I mean, he's he was in a parish on the 12 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:36.960 south side of Chicago. It was like four miles from 13 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.280 my seminary. I was in a Catholic seminary for my 14 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.840 four high school years. But interestingly that the new Pope 15 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.159 of Poplar of the fourteenth he went to a different 16 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:50.119 Catholic seminary during his four years. He was two years 17 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:52.920 ahead of me, so we were not in school together. 18 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:57.119 He came back and ended up teaching in the building 19 00:00:57.119 --> 00:00:59.280 where I went to high school, which had then become 20 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:02.320 Saint Rita, a Catholic high school. So yeah, it's just 21 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.400 so wild. But never met him Pas never crossed, but 22 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:09.920 mind blowing to think high school seminary and from the 23 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:14.200 South Side is now pope. And I'm just betting he 24 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:17.480 will be a spectacular pope because I'm just thinking there's 25 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:21.079 no way he overcomes the American born thing to become 26 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:25.959 pope unless he's got some extraordinary qualities that I am 27 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.200 hopeful for somebody in obviously in the John Paul the 28 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:33.200 Great category, and he's young enough now and highly energetic, 29 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:37.280 obviously very intelligent. But clarification just came out from his family. 30 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:40.920 This is hilarious. Wriggley Field Cubs put a big they've 31 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:43.359 got this sign outside Wrigley Field and they put a 32 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:46.319 big sign up he's a Cubs fan. Because that was 33 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.120 a national reporting, and then the Pope's brother came out 34 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:51.280 and said, no way, Socks all the way. He's a 35 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.519 Socks fan all the way. So well, a big controversy 36 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:57.480 in Chicago. So we're talking about that. What do you 37 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:59.840 want to see from the new pope? Getting some tremendous 38 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:01.920 text on that, and I've been reading those and I'll 39 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:04.280 read some more. We'll go to callers as well, and 40 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:06.439 then we have so much more to talk about and 41 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:08.919 we have been talking about things that have gone on 42 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.639 this week while I've been in trial down in beautiful 43 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:17.439 Colorado Springs. And thanks again to Sheriff Steve and Heidi 44 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:20.599 Ganoll and KBB for filling in. Thanks also to our 45 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.599 next guest, doctor Catherine Willer. And we're doing a regular 46 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:28.919 segment now on the reality of abortion. And I understand 47 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:33.120 a lot of people's positions have sort of become fixed 48 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:37.159 on abortion. No matter where you are on abortion policy. 49 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:40.639 I think that you're going to find doctor Wheeler extraordinarily 50 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:43.199 interesting because first she's a medical doctor, and what we're 51 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:46.840 talking about in these segments is our medical issues, medical 52 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:49.960 reality of abortion, etc. Also, doctor Wheeler one of the 53 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.120 real heroes of the pro life movement because she used 54 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:56.520 to perform abortions. And really the biggest heroes in the 55 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.719 pro life movement are the women who have had abortions 56 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.960 and now stand up for life, the people who conducted 57 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:06.680 abortions and now stand up for life. And so great 58 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:08.240 to have doctor Wheeler beck with us. 59 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.759 How you doing, Doc, I'm great, Thank you so much. 60 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:13.840 I will say, you know, most of us who are 61 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.159 doing this work are actually we've just seen how it 62 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:20.479 harms everybody, and we've seen the evil of the death 63 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.479 of babies. So I don't know, I don't call us heroes, 64 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:26.439 but we sure are motivated because we actually know what 65 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:26.840 it is. 66 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:27.599 Well. 67 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:29.800 I so appreciate being able to be on with you. 68 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:33.360 Well, thank you, and I love getting your expertise right 69 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.520 because I think that we gain so much in terms 70 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:40.199 of support for life as people see the real science. 71 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.280 And so you can bring the real science to the table. 72 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.039 So let's just start with what you just mentioned. You know, 73 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:51.879 from that medical perspective, you know, what are those those harms, 74 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:55.599 those kind of awful realities of abortion that you refer 75 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:57.800 to from a medical perspective. 76 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.199 Yeah, from a medical perspective, you know, And maybe it'd 77 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.360 be best to talk about one of the big narratives 78 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:08.800 that they really use to push abortion is nobody wants 79 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.439 women to die or to be harmed. If we all 80 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:14.719 want women to be well, don't we. And so there's 81 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.720 this real narrative being pushed even more than harms that 82 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:21.720 if there are any limitations on abortion, their claim is 83 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:24.839 that more women will die. And we've certainly seen that 84 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.360 in the last year, especially here in Colorado with the 85 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:33.079 Amendment seventy nine. This whole narrative of women theoretically dying 86 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:36.879 because there are limitations of abortions in states like Georgia 87 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:41.240 and Texas, and that's being leveraged. But I think what's 88 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:43.959 being confused in there is that the majority of these 89 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:48.959 are actually death from actually the abortion pill, which women 90 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:52.879 do die of the abortion pill, and especially when you 91 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.959 have no contact with a doctor, you're just getting it 92 00:04:56.000 --> 00:05:00.360 online with no medical oversight, and there's this confus usion 93 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:03.360 about whether they can get medical care if they are 94 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.439 having complications or if they're having a miscarriage or an 95 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:10.839 ectopic pregnancy, which are not abortions, And this whole confusion 96 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:14.720 has happened. And so what actually is killing these women 97 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.800 is complications from the abortion pill or from not getting 98 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:23.879 necessary in legal care for miscarriage and abortion and life 99 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:28.199 threatening complications. And that's legal in every state in our country. 100 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.519 Yeah, well, let's address that falsehood that you hear so 101 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:36.240 much of that, Oh my goodness, with these abortion loss passing. 102 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.319 You can't get treated for an ectopic pregnancy? Can you 103 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.360 explain to folks what that is and why in fact, yes, 104 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.000 you can get treated for that dangerous condition. 105 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:52.319 Yes, absolutely so throw with the CDC definition of what 106 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.480 an abortion is. An abortion is an intervention that ends 107 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:59.560 a pregnancy that does not result in a live birth. 108 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.879 You have a live baby and the intention is to 109 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:07.399 not deliver a life baby, and that's an abortion as 110 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:12.120 defined by our government. So miscarriage. Unfortunately, the baby has 111 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.240 already passed away, and the majority of the time the 112 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.519 baby will pass spontaneously. The uters will contract just like 113 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:21.240 in labor at the end of a normal pregnancy, and 114 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:24.040 the dead baby will be expelled. That is not an 115 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:28.199 abortion by definition. Now, neck toopic pregnancy is a life 116 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:31.399 threatening condition. It's actually the number one reason for death 117 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.560 in the first trimester rare, but it is the number 118 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:37.480 one cause of death in the first trimester of pregnancy. 119 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:41.560 And what next topic pregnancy means is that the baby 120 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:48.360 after fertilization, the developing babies should reach the uterine cavity 121 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.639 by about six days and implant in the uterine cavity. 122 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.680 But a small percentage of the time, about two to 123 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.319 three percent of the time, the developing baby will actually 124 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:01.600 implant in the fillopian tube, which can then rupture and 125 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:05.839 cause hemorrhage within the abdominal cavity. So that's truly life 126 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:09.240 threatening right now, management of that is not an abortion. 127 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.519 Management of that is saving the woman's life. Nearly always 128 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:16.079 the baby hasn't survived by the time it's diagnosed, but 129 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.279 you're saving the one life that you can save. That 130 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.240 is not an abortion. So this is getting confused in 131 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:23.879 the media and kind of writing the coattails of that 132 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:27.160 to push abortion on the public because nobody wants a 133 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.959 woman to die, but it's the narrative is incorrect as 134 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:32.639 actually misinformation. 135 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:36.560 Well, I think you're very generous. I think it's intentionally 136 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:40.319 misleading to try to advance the pro abortion cause. But 137 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.560 inductor again, from that medical perspective, what do you think 138 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:48.160 are some of the most important medical realities people need 139 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:52.199 to know as they consider that the policy issues on abortion. 140 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:56.000 Yeah, I think the most important thing is, you know, 141 00:07:56.040 --> 00:08:01.600 we've turned from evidence to politics, unfortunately, and science and 142 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:06.720 medicine have been overtaken by a political agenda, which is 143 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:12.120 really unfortunate. It's whatever it takes to push unlimited abortion 144 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:17.439 access to everybody, and now, especially in Colorado, taxpayers pay 145 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:19.319 for it. The women shouldn't have to pay anything out 146 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.959 of pocket for it, and so that really has pushed 147 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.519 the narrative and it's all about access, and so all 148 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:29.879 policy is about access, no matter what happens to the woman. 149 00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:32.799 And that's what we've seen in Colorado even this year 150 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:36.279 with a death of a woman with a twenty two 151 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:39.919 week abortion. An eighteen year old woman died the day 152 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.080 before we testified at the legislature to try to get 153 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:47.080 some kind of regulation. There are no regulations in these clinics, 154 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:51.759 there's no safety measures, Nobody ever inspects them, nobody make 155 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:56.240 sure they have protocols for emergency. And it did not 156 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:59.399 move the legislators. They would not pass any kind of 157 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.879 regulation put in safeguards for women. And so that just 158 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:06.480 tells you the real concern for the abortion lobbying and industry, 159 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:10.000 and unfortunately a large number of the legislature is to 160 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:14.200 get women into abortion, not the safety and wellness of women. 161 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.440 Well, right, because if the concern was for women, they 162 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:21.159 wouldn't support abortion. Because how many females a year does 163 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:24.840 abortion kill? I mean it's got to be seven hundred 164 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:27.120 and fifty thousand to a million, right, I assume about 165 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:34.960 half of all abortions are of females. 166 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.080 Of female babies. Yes, absolutely, And you know that doesn't 167 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.799 really Unfortunately here in the United States, we don't even 168 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:43.759 collect data on the harms to women, and reporting of 169 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.879 even numbers of abortion to the CDC is voluntary, so 170 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:51.519 we don't have good reporting on the harms to women. 171 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:55.120 I'm going to guess that intention. But we do have 172 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.919 countries where they have universal health coverage and so they 173 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:03.000 can follow women who have access to abortion, had abortions 174 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.240 and what kind of complications do they have, and so 175 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:09.240 those will be countries like Finland and Denmark, and so 176 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:12.679 you can see some of the complications which within one 177 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:16.039 hundred and eighty days of an abortion, the death rate 178 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:20.360 is twice those of women who have child bearing a 179 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.159 live child, and that continues for twenty five years, a 180 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.840 three to four fold increase in death for multiple reasons. 181 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:31.559 And some of the top reasons are suicide, especially in 182 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:36.159 the first year of suicide, unintentional drug overdoses, and even 183 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:38.840 homicide goes on. So that tells you something about this 184 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.279 situation in which women are choosing abortion. 185 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:44.440 Yes, that's fascinating to me, and obviously the kind of 186 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:48.240 medical truth that the abortion industry in America doesn't want 187 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:50.200 people to hear. Why don't we do that on our 188 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.919 next segment next week? Why don't we dive into that 189 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:58.000 along with some of your other key medical evidence. And yeah, 190 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.960 they just you know, the harms that seem to follow 191 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.159 in much larger numbers after an abortion, doctor, How can 192 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.639 people follow you or read your works? 193 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:12.639 So I'm on the board of the American Association of 194 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.080 Pro Life obq i N that's aa p l og 195 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.159 dot org. I'm also the president of the Colorado chapter. 196 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:23.919 Wonderful. Well look forward to having you back next week. 197 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:25.320 Thanks for the time today. 198 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:29.480 Thank you for the opportunity Ian take care, doctor Catherine Wheeler. 199 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:32.159 And when we come back, Yes, the new Pope and 200 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.679 whether you're Catholic, Christian or not, whatever, what do you 201 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:36.840 want to see from the new Pope? And boy we 202 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:39.559 have a text exploding on that. You're on the Dan 203 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:40.559 Kapla Show. 204 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.519 And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 205 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.519 It just or not. You know, the new Pope is 206 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.240 a big deal. That individual becomes a world leader depending 207 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:59.519 on you know, the particular pope, how much world impact 208 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:03.279 but always meaningful and talk about John Paul, the great 209 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.320 right but probably the most important leader in the world 210 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:09.159 over a long stretch of time. And you know here 211 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.639 as well, I expect great things from this Pope. I've 212 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:17.000 I doubt very much that an American, somebody born in 213 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.919 America would have been elected pope unless they have some 214 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:23.480 extraordinary qualities, and so I expect we're going to see 215 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:25.240 that from him. Three or three someone three eight two 216 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:28.679 five five text d A N five seven seven three nine. 217 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:32.600 Mine's still blown by the fact that we were both 218 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:36.519 in Catholic seminaries at the same time. My seminary quickly 219 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.519 South these were high school years, was just a few 220 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:44.360 miles from his parish, Assumption Parish. Yet the now Pope 221 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.440 didn't go to my seminary. He went up to Michigan 222 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:51.080 at a seminary where he lived during high school years. 223 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:55.639 Saint Augustine's so never knew, paths never crossed. But still 224 00:12:55.720 --> 00:13:00.399 just mind blowing that somebody from Chicago ends up being Pope. Texter, 225 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:02.639 says Dan, Thanks to you and the doctor for that 226 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:06.080 statistic about the higher suicide and homicide risk that these 227 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.240 women who have abortions are at risk of. Those are 228 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:12.080 definitely not situations that we would want babies to be 229 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:15.120 born into, which would just end up meaning a terrible 230 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:17.960 childhood in life. I can't believe for a second the 231 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:21.679 Texter means what they wrote. I think that's somebody just 232 00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:24.840 trying to get my goat, because nobody could possibly be 233 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.679 that evil, right, I mean, could there be a person 234 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.840 in this audience so evil that they would say that, 235 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.120 I don't know, if somebody is going to be born 236 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:38.639 into a bad situation, we should kill him, just kill him, 237 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.919 never let him be born, never let him walk the 238 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.919 face of the earth. I doubt we could have an 239 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:48.080 individual that evil in our audience, So I will assume 240 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.440 that text was a poor attempt at humor. Dan, The 241 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:55.039 leadership of the Democratic Party and the Catholic religion have 242 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:59.600 been hijacked by communists. That from Abe wasn't obviously the 243 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:02.720 Democrat Party, and I used to be a Democrat. It's 244 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:06.759 been hijacked by far left secularists. And I don't want 245 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:08.000 to you know, I think you waste a lot of 246 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.679 time when you're talking about other socialists, communists or the 247 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:14.480 European style socialists, whatever they are. It's just bad. Whatever 248 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.559 you want to label it is just really bad. But no, no, 249 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:21.279 the Catholic Church has not been hijacked by communists. Quite 250 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:25.879 the opposite, my friend, Dan, I hope you admit you 251 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:30.320 were wrong. When Francis the second, I think he's referring 252 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.000 to our new pope that way allows the ordination of 253 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:37.159 women priests and recognizes the sisters of Perpetual Indulgence as 254 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.919 a legitimate order in the world church. Wow, I would 255 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.440 really like to get a call from that Texter and 256 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:48.200 find out who did what his wheedies this morning. But well, 257 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.759 I will bet any size steak you want, literally a 258 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:57.480 beef steak or other steaks. Know that this new Pope 259 00:14:57.879 --> 00:14:59.919 turns out to be, you know, in these labels are 260 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.320 how variety of stock liberal conservative, but turns out to 261 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:08.399 be much more conservative than people expect, depending upon how 262 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:11.600 you define it. And one, you know, I think one 263 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:14.720 sign of that it's superficial, but not really. You know, 264 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.039 one sign of that is that if you've seen that 265 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.200 the image is when our new Pope appeared today for 266 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:23.159 those of star Catholic, but the new Pope for the 267 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:29.879 world appeared today was wearing you know, the traditional papal vestments, 268 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:35.720 et cetera, and very beautiful, very beautiful vestments. And that 269 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:39.360 is a break with how Pope Francis had first appeared, 270 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:44.519 and I think was clearly meant to signal something you know, 271 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:50.000 in terms of tradition, permission to speak, that's when do 272 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:50.519 you need that? 273 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.799 So I have a question, because I'm not Catholic obviously, 274 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:01.279 but is there a special service in the Catholic Church 275 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:06.240 when a pope is elected? Good question you have to attender. 276 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:09.080 I hope not, because I missed it. If there is, okay, yeah, 277 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:12.159 I do not think so okay, which is Kelly. I 278 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.720 think one of the really cool things about today were 279 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:17.480 you watching any of those feeds, the live feeds before 280 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:19.440 the pope came out? It was great. 281 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:24.000 There was a party on so I actually, oh gosh, 282 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:29.960 it's so embarrassing. I was reading something off of a newsfeed. 283 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:31.519 It thankfully it. 284 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:34.159 Was not on the air, was on a break, but 285 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:39.240 it's on the air now. I said hyper bowl instead 286 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:40.080 of hyper belief. 287 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:42.000 No, but you're right, because it was. It was like 288 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:44.279 a Super Bowl. If anybody was watching that live feed, 289 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:46.559 it was a party in Saint Peter's somewhere. 290 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:46.960 Yeah. 291 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:52.200 But they were saying, you know, there's obviously certain hyper believes. 292 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:54.720 But I read. 293 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.000 And as I'm reading it, I'm like. 294 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:01.120 Hyper bowl. I'd like your pronunciation. This one says, dan Bet. 295 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:03.080 You were bouncing off the walls. When you found out 296 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.519 the pope was going to be an American from Chicago, 297 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:09.640 that was really cool. But it gets to this smart 298 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:11.759 text here, Dan, do you think there'll be more USA 299 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.240 visits from the new pope. I'm not sure about that, 300 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:17.279 because the new Pope may want to make it clear 301 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:20.640 that he's not an American pope, that he's a pope 302 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.359 for the whole world. So I'm not at all sure 303 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:25.759 that America will be on the early visits. I would 304 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.720 think they'll, listen, popes are still human, right, and it 305 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:31.400 would have to be irresistible to want to go back 306 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:36.160 to Now his old parish isn't there anymore, assumption was closed, 307 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:38.119 But I think he'd want to go back to where 308 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:40.079 he grew up. I think any human would want to 309 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.559 do that so at some point, But I'd be a 310 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:46.640 little surprised if America was on the first couple of trips. 311 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:48.279 All right, we got a lot of ground to covered. 312 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:49.599 Love your take on that, and there are many more 313 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:51.519 texts coming in and I'll get to those as well. 314 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:55.359 But so many things going on locally, including the Democrats 315 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:58.359 just flat out making it clear now that they put 316 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:00.720 folks here illegally ahead of you. They're taking out the 317 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:03.240 license plate readers here on the Dan Capitla Show. 318 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:13.720 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 319 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.400 And when they took off a Buddha dieste who has 320 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:20.440 no clue. You know, he drives to work in as 321 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.279 a bicycle with his with his no fairness, with his 322 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:25.960 husband on the back, which is a nice, loving relationship. 323 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.119 But he didn't have a clue. This guy didn't have 324 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:31.359 a clue that he's. 325 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:34.440 Actually a contender for president between him and Crockett, you 326 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:35.400 can have that party. 327 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:39.559 But he didn't perform three or three seven three eight 328 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.440 two five five the number text d A N five 329 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.519 seven seventeen nine. But he is every day right. I mean, 330 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:49.119 this is such a great time to be alive. You've 331 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:53.319 got Trump in his second term, the very best version 332 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:55.720 of Trump. He's also he also us to be the 333 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.680 most entertaining president we've had in our lifetime or maybe 334 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:03.960 any lifetime. And then today we get the new Pope, 335 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:08.720 American born guy from Chicago. I'm expecting great things. So 336 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:10.880 we'll look forward to that. And as I mentioned earlier, 337 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:12.759 because we've had a lot of text along the lines 338 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:15.359 of wait a second, you know, isn't the pope quote 339 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:19.160 anti Trump or whatever. And the point that I keep 340 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:23.799 trying to emphasize is is wait a second. At first, 341 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:26.880 this pope must be extraordinarily gifted and talented to have 342 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:30.599 overcome the American born thing. Second, think of the key 343 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.200 common ground. And President Trump's comments today about the new 344 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.039 pope are beautiful and so positive and looking forward to 345 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:39.400 visiting with the new Pope. And you look at the 346 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:43.519 common ground they have together which dwarfs any differences. And 347 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.359 the differences would be on immigration policy. But the common 348 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:50.880 ground is foundational to Catholic teaching. That the common ground 349 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:54.799 is blessed are the peacemakers. And that plays out in 350 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:57.880 two different ways. First through abortion, because it's slaughtering so 351 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:00.480 many innocents, and that is foundation, you know, for the 352 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:05.440 Catholic Church. And President Trump is the single most powerful 353 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:09.799 and effective pro life elected official in the world, and 354 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:13.279 so you have that massive common ground. And then President 355 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:15.920 Trump is a peacemaker when it comes to war, and 356 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:19.799 popes are peacemakers when it comes to war. And President 357 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:23.240 Trump's peace through strengths and pope is peace through prayer 358 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:26.759 and other workings behind the scene. But they have that 359 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.960 enormous common ground. So I'm very optimistic that they're going 360 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:35.000 to have these large swaths of common ground where they 361 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:37.880 can operate together, not on the phone with each other 362 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:42.240 about this or that, but just so much that they 363 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.759 both have an interest in accomplishing where they're on exactly 364 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:49.839 the same page. Let's go to Centennial Colorado. Talk to Patty. 365 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:53.559 You're on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome Patty hy Van. 366 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:56.240 I had an answer for Kelly's question. 367 00:20:56.359 --> 00:20:58.480 Oh yes, and it wasn't. 368 00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:01.119 That there is a ask that we have to go 369 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:03.240 to when there's a new pope. Yeah, but there is 370 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.279 a liturgy for it. And today our archdaosis and priests 371 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:10.160 were all down at their convocations, so there weren't mass 372 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:13.160 public many public masses. I mean maybe there are tonight, 373 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:16.720 but I was up at Focus and they have priests 374 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:17.240 up there. 375 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:20.240 That are not archdiosis, and so they celebrated a mass. 376 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:22.880 I was up there right when they when poke uh 377 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:24.839 cool Leo the fourteenth. 378 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:28.400 Everybody was watching university students, Yeah, which is just an 379 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:32.279 amazing group. But everybody was everybody who's watching the feed, 380 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:32.799 I assume. 381 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:36.359 Yeah, they had they had a team director, you know, 382 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:39.119 luncheon or something, and they had the big screen up 383 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:41.039 and I walk in and I'm in this room full 384 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:43.960 of all these like college grads who was like cheering 385 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.279 the pope on. And then I went in, I went 386 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.160 to Mass, and it was a Mass said for the 387 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:51.519 new pope and there is a liturgy for it. 388 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:51.799 Wow. 389 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:52.400 So there you go. 390 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:55.200 Well, thank you. And who was in the seminary, mir 391 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:56.599 or you because I didn't know that. 392 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:00.960 Well, yeah, I had your way ahead of me. 393 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:07.039 Well thank you, Patty appreciate that. Yeah, thank you. Wow. Yes, 394 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:09.839 And I'm sure a lot of people had this experience today, right, 395 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:13.599 some of us Catholic others just kind of following this 396 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.640 this really big news story and the pageantry and everything else. 397 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:19.960 But I was in this huge meeting and so I'm 398 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.359 you know, I've got YouTube TV on and I've got 399 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.559 everybody thinks I'm just like working on my iPad, right, 400 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:27.960 but I've got the YouTube TV on And then following it, 401 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:30.079