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Speaker 1: for the American way right, who would have seen this
Speaker 1: kind of not me an American born pope. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: we're talking about a pope who has spent with the
Speaker 1: last maybe twenty years I think in South America and
Speaker 1: is now he became a Peruvian citizen and so but still,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he was in a parish on the
Speaker 1: south side of Chicago. It was like four miles from
Speaker 1: my seminary. I was in a Catholic seminary for my
Speaker 1: four high school years. But interestingly that the new Pope
Speaker 1: of Poplar of the fourteenth he went to a different
Speaker 1: Catholic seminary during his four years. He was two years
Speaker 1: ahead of me, so we were not in school together.
Speaker 1: He came back and ended up teaching in the building
Speaker 1: where I went to high school, which had then become
Speaker 1: Saint Rita, a Catholic high school. So yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: so wild. But never met him Pas never crossed, but
Speaker 1: mind blowing to think high school seminary and from the
Speaker 1: South Side is now pope. And I'm just betting he
Speaker 1: will be a spectacular pope because I'm just thinking there's
Speaker 1: no way he overcomes the American born thing to become
Speaker 1: pope unless he's got some extraordinary qualities that I am
Speaker 1: hopeful for somebody in obviously in the John Paul the
Speaker 1: Great category, and he's young enough now and highly energetic,
Speaker 1: obviously very intelligent. But clarification just came out from his family.
Speaker 1: This is hilarious. Wriggley Field Cubs put a big they've
Speaker 1: got this sign outside Wrigley Field and they put a
Speaker 1: big sign up he's a Cubs fan. Because that was
Speaker 1: a national reporting, and then the Pope's brother came out
Speaker 1: and said, no way, Socks all the way. He's a
Speaker 1: Socks fan all the way. So well, a big controversy
Speaker 1: in Chicago. So we're talking about that. What do you
Speaker 1: want to see from the new pope? Getting some tremendous
Speaker 1: text on that, and I've been reading those and I'll
Speaker 1: read some more. We'll go to callers as well, and
Speaker 1: then we have so much more to talk about and
Speaker 1: we have been talking about things that have gone on
Speaker 1: this week while I've been in trial down in beautiful
Speaker 1: Colorado Springs. And thanks again to Sheriff Steve and Heidi
Speaker 1: Ganoll and KBB for filling in. Thanks also to our
Speaker 1: next guest, doctor Catherine Willer. And we're doing a regular
Speaker 1: segment now on the reality of abortion. And I understand
Speaker 1: a lot of people's positions have sort of become fixed
Speaker 1: on abortion. No matter where you are on abortion policy.
Speaker 1: I think that you're going to find doctor Wheeler extraordinarily
Speaker 1: interesting because first she's a medical doctor, and what we're
Speaker 1: talking about in these segments is our medical issues, medical
Speaker 1: reality of abortion, etc. Also, doctor Wheeler one of the
Speaker 1: real heroes of the pro life movement because she used
Speaker 1: to perform abortions. And really the biggest heroes in the
Speaker 1: pro life movement are the women who have had abortions
Speaker 1: and now stand up for life, the people who conducted
Speaker 1: abortions and now stand up for life. And so great
Speaker 1: to have doctor Wheeler beck with us.
Speaker 2: How you doing, Doc, I'm great, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I will say, you know, most of us who are
Speaker 2: doing this work are actually we've just seen how it
Speaker 2: harms everybody, and we've seen the evil of the death
Speaker 2: of babies. So I don't know, I don't call us heroes,
Speaker 2: but we sure are motivated because we actually know what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I so appreciate being able to be on with you.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, and I love getting your expertise right
Speaker 1: because I think that we gain so much in terms
Speaker 1: of support for life as people see the real science.
Speaker 1: And so you can bring the real science to the table.
Speaker 1: So let's just start with what you just mentioned. You know,
Speaker 1: from that medical perspective, you know, what are those those harms,
Speaker 1: those kind of awful realities of abortion that you refer
Speaker 1: to from a medical perspective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from a medical perspective, you know, And maybe it'd
Speaker 2: be best to talk about one of the big narratives
Speaker 2: that they really use to push abortion is nobody wants
Speaker 2: women to die or to be harmed. If we all
Speaker 2: want women to be well, don't we. And so there's
Speaker 2: this real narrative being pushed even more than harms that
Speaker 2: if there are any limitations on abortion, their claim is
Speaker 2: that more women will die. And we've certainly seen that
Speaker 2: in the last year, especially here in Colorado with the
Speaker 2: Amendment seventy nine. This whole narrative of women theoretically dying
Speaker 2: because there are limitations of abortions in states like Georgia
Speaker 2: and Texas, and that's being leveraged. But I think what's
Speaker 2: being confused in there is that the majority of these
Speaker 2: are actually death from actually the abortion pill, which women
Speaker 2: do die of the abortion pill, and especially when you
Speaker 2: have no contact with a doctor, you're just getting it
Speaker 2: online with no medical oversight, and there's this confus usion
Speaker 2: about whether they can get medical care if they are
Speaker 2: having complications or if they're having a miscarriage or an
Speaker 2: ectopic pregnancy, which are not abortions, And this whole confusion
Speaker 2: has happened. And so what actually is killing these women
Speaker 2: is complications from the abortion pill or from not getting
Speaker 2: necessary in legal care for miscarriage and abortion and life
Speaker 2: threatening complications. And that's legal in every state in our country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's address that falsehood that you hear so
Speaker 1: much of that, Oh my goodness, with these abortion loss passing.
Speaker 1: You can't get treated for an ectopic pregnancy? Can you
Speaker 1: explain to folks what that is and why in fact, yes,
Speaker 1: you can get treated for that dangerous condition.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely so throw with the CDC definition of what
Speaker 2: an abortion is. An abortion is an intervention that ends
Speaker 2: a pregnancy that does not result in a live birth.
Speaker 2: You have a live baby and the intention is to
Speaker 2: not deliver a life baby, and that's an abortion as
Speaker 2: defined by our government. So miscarriage. Unfortunately, the baby has
Speaker 2: already passed away, and the majority of the time the
Speaker 2: baby will pass spontaneously. The uters will contract just like
Speaker 2: in labor at the end of a normal pregnancy, and
Speaker 2: the dead baby will be expelled. That is not an
Speaker 2: abortion by definition. Now, neck toopic pregnancy is a life
Speaker 2: threatening condition. It's actually the number one reason for death
Speaker 2: in the first trimester rare, but it is the number
Speaker 2: one cause of death in the first trimester of pregnancy.
Speaker 2: And what next topic pregnancy means is that the baby
Speaker 2: after fertilization, the developing babies should reach the uterine cavity
Speaker 2: by about six days and implant in the uterine cavity.
Speaker 2: But a small percentage of the time, about two to
Speaker 2: three percent of the time, the developing baby will actually
Speaker 2: implant in the fillopian tube, which can then rupture and
Speaker 2: cause hemorrhage within the abdominal cavity. So that's truly life
Speaker 2: threatening right now, management of that is not an abortion.
Speaker 2: Management of that is saving the woman's life. Nearly always
Speaker 2: the baby hasn't survived by the time it's diagnosed, but
Speaker 2: you're saving the one life that you can save. That
Speaker 2: is not an abortion. So this is getting confused in
Speaker 2: the media and kind of writing the coattails of that
Speaker 2: to push abortion on the public because nobody wants a
Speaker 2: woman to die, but it's the narrative is incorrect as
Speaker 2: actually misinformation.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're very generous. I think it's intentionally
Speaker 1: misleading to try to advance the pro abortion cause. But
Speaker 1: inductor again, from that medical perspective, what do you think
Speaker 1: are some of the most important medical realities people need
Speaker 1: to know as they consider that the policy issues on abortion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the most important thing is, you know,
Speaker 2: we've turned from evidence to politics, unfortunately, and science and
Speaker 2: medicine have been overtaken by a political agenda, which is
Speaker 2: really unfortunate. It's whatever it takes to push unlimited abortion
Speaker 2: access to everybody, and now, especially in Colorado, taxpayers pay
Speaker 2: for it. The women shouldn't have to pay anything out
Speaker 2: of pocket for it, and so that really has pushed
Speaker 2: the narrative and it's all about access, and so all
Speaker 2: policy is about access, no matter what happens to the woman.
Speaker 2: And that's what we've seen in Colorado even this year
Speaker 2: with a death of a woman with a twenty two
Speaker 2: week abortion. An eighteen year old woman died the day
Speaker 2: before we testified at the legislature to try to get
Speaker 2: some kind of regulation. There are no regulations in these clinics,
Speaker 2: there's no safety measures, Nobody ever inspects them, nobody make
Speaker 2: sure they have protocols for emergency. And it did not
Speaker 2: move the legislators. They would not pass any kind of
Speaker 2: regulation put in safeguards for women. And so that just
Speaker 2: tells you the real concern for the abortion lobbying and industry,
Speaker 2: and unfortunately a large number of the legislature is to
Speaker 2: get women into abortion, not the safety and wellness of women.
Speaker 1: Well, right, because if the concern was for women, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't support abortion. Because how many females a year does
Speaker 1: abortion kill? I mean it's got to be seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand to a million, right, I assume about
Speaker 1: half of all abortions are of females.
Speaker 2: Of female babies. Yes, absolutely, And you know that doesn't
Speaker 2: really Unfortunately here in the United States, we don't even
Speaker 2: collect data on the harms to women, and reporting of
Speaker 2: even numbers of abortion to the CDC is voluntary, so
Speaker 2: we don't have good reporting on the harms to women.
Speaker 2: I'm going to guess that intention. But we do have
Speaker 2: countries where they have universal health coverage and so they
Speaker 2: can follow women who have access to abortion, had abortions
Speaker 2: and what kind of complications do they have, and so
Speaker 2: those will be countries like Finland and Denmark, and so
Speaker 2: you can see some of the complications which within one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty days of an abortion, the death rate
Speaker 2: is twice those of women who have child bearing a
Speaker 2: live child, and that continues for twenty five years, a
Speaker 2: three to four fold increase in death for multiple reasons.
Speaker 2: And some of the top reasons are suicide, especially in
Speaker 2: the first year of suicide, unintentional drug overdoses, and even
Speaker 2: homicide goes on. So that tells you something about this
Speaker 2: situation in which women are choosing abortion.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's fascinating to me, and obviously the kind of
Speaker 1: medical truth that the abortion industry in America doesn't want
Speaker 1: people to hear. Why don't we do that on our
Speaker 1: next segment next week? Why don't we dive into that
Speaker 1: along with some of your other key medical evidence. And yeah,
Speaker 1: they just you know, the harms that seem to follow
Speaker 1: in much larger numbers after an abortion, doctor, How can
Speaker 1: people follow you or read your works?
Speaker 2: So I'm on the board of the American Association of
Speaker 2: Pro Life obq i N that's aa p l og
Speaker 2: dot org. I'm also the president of the Colorado chapter.
Speaker 1: Wonderful. Well look forward to having you back next week.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the time today.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the opportunity Ian take care, doctor Catherine Wheeler.
Speaker 1: And when we come back, Yes, the new Pope and
Speaker 1: whether you're Catholic, Christian or not, whatever, what do you
Speaker 1: want to see from the new Pope? And boy we
Speaker 1: have a text exploding on that. You're on the Dan
Speaker 1: Kapla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: It just or not. You know, the new Pope is
Speaker 1: a big deal. That individual becomes a world leader depending
Speaker 1: on you know, the particular pope, how much world impact
Speaker 1: but always meaningful and talk about John Paul, the great
Speaker 1: right but probably the most important leader in the world
Speaker 1: over a long stretch of time. And you know here
Speaker 1: as well, I expect great things from this Pope. I've
Speaker 1: I doubt very much that an American, somebody born in
Speaker 1: America would have been elected pope unless they have some
Speaker 1: extraordinary qualities, and so I expect we're going to see
Speaker 1: that from him. Three or three someone three eight two
Speaker 1: five five text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 1: Mine's still blown by the fact that we were both
Speaker 1: in Catholic seminaries at the same time. My seminary quickly
Speaker 1: South these were high school years, was just a few
Speaker 1: miles from his parish, Assumption Parish. Yet the now Pope
Speaker 1: didn't go to my seminary. He went up to Michigan
Speaker 1: at a seminary where he lived during high school years.
Speaker 1: Saint Augustine's so never knew, paths never crossed. But still
Speaker 1: just mind blowing that somebody from Chicago ends up being Pope. Texter,
Speaker 1: says Dan, Thanks to you and the doctor for that
Speaker 1: statistic about the higher suicide and homicide risk that these
Speaker 1: women who have abortions are at risk of. Those are
Speaker 1: definitely not situations that we would want babies to be
Speaker 1: born into, which would just end up meaning a terrible
Speaker 1: childhood in life. I can't believe for a second the
Speaker 1: Texter means what they wrote. I think that's somebody just
Speaker 1: trying to get my goat, because nobody could possibly be
Speaker 1: that evil, right, I mean, could there be a person
Speaker 1: in this audience so evil that they would say that,
Speaker 1: I don't know, if somebody is going to be born
Speaker 1: into a bad situation, we should kill him, just kill him,
Speaker 1: never let him be born, never let him walk the
Speaker 1: face of the earth. I doubt we could have an
Speaker 1: individual that evil in our audience, So I will assume
Speaker 1: that text was a poor attempt at humor. Dan, The
Speaker 1: leadership of the Democratic Party and the Catholic religion have
Speaker 1: been hijacked by communists. That from Abe wasn't obviously the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party, and I used to be a Democrat. It's
Speaker 1: been hijacked by far left secularists. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to you know, I think you waste a lot of
Speaker 1: time when you're talking about other socialists, communists or the
Speaker 1: European style socialists, whatever they are. It's just bad. Whatever
Speaker 1: you want to label it is just really bad. But no, no,
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church has not been hijacked by communists. Quite
Speaker 1: the opposite, my friend, Dan, I hope you admit you
Speaker 1: were wrong. When Francis the second, I think he's referring
Speaker 1: to our new pope that way allows the ordination of
Speaker 1: women priests and recognizes the sisters of Perpetual Indulgence as
Speaker 1: a legitimate order in the world church. Wow, I would
Speaker 1: really like to get a call from that Texter and
Speaker 1: find out who did what his wheedies this morning. But well,
Speaker 1: I will bet any size steak you want, literally a
Speaker 1: beef steak or other steaks. Know that this new Pope
Speaker 1: turns out to be, you know, in these labels are
Speaker 1: how variety of stock liberal conservative, but turns out to
Speaker 1: be much more conservative than people expect, depending upon how
Speaker 1: you define it. And one, you know, I think one
Speaker 1: sign of that it's superficial, but not really. You know,
Speaker 1: one sign of that is that if you've seen that
Speaker 1: the image is when our new Pope appeared today for
Speaker 1: those of star Catholic, but the new Pope for the
Speaker 1: world appeared today was wearing you know, the traditional papal vestments,
Speaker 1: et cetera, and very beautiful, very beautiful vestments. And that
Speaker 1: is a break with how Pope Francis had first appeared,
Speaker 1: and I think was clearly meant to signal something you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of tradition, permission to speak, that's when do
Speaker 1: you need that?
Speaker 4: So I have a question, because I'm not Catholic obviously,
Speaker 4: but is there a special service in the Catholic Church
Speaker 4: when a pope is elected? Good question you have to attender.
Speaker 1: I hope not, because I missed it. If there is, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do not think so okay, which is Kelly. I
Speaker 1: think one of the really cool things about today were
Speaker 1: you watching any of those feeds, the live feeds before
Speaker 1: the pope came out? It was great.
Speaker 4: There was a party on so I actually, oh gosh,
Speaker 4: it's so embarrassing. I was reading something off of a newsfeed.
Speaker 1: It thankfully it.
Speaker 4: Was not on the air, was on a break, but
Speaker 4: it's on the air now. I said hyper bowl instead
Speaker 4: of hyper belief.
Speaker 1: No, but you're right, because it was. It was like
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. If anybody was watching that live feed,
Speaker 1: it was a party in Saint Peter's somewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But they were saying, you know, there's obviously certain hyper believes.
Speaker 1: But I read.
Speaker 4: And as I'm reading it, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Hyper bowl. I'd like your pronunciation. This one says, dan Bet.
Speaker 1: You were bouncing off the walls. When you found out
Speaker 1: the pope was going to be an American from Chicago,
Speaker 1: that was really cool. But it gets to this smart
Speaker 1: text here, Dan, do you think there'll be more USA
Speaker 1: visits from the new pope. I'm not sure about that,
Speaker 1: because the new Pope may want to make it clear
Speaker 1: that he's not an American pope, that he's a pope
Speaker 1: for the whole world. So I'm not at all sure
Speaker 1: that America will be on the early visits. I would
Speaker 1: think they'll, listen, popes are still human, right, and it
Speaker 1: would have to be irresistible to want to go back
Speaker 1: to Now his old parish isn't there anymore, assumption was closed,
Speaker 1: But I think he'd want to go back to where
Speaker 1: he grew up. I think any human would want to
Speaker 1: do that so at some point, But I'd be a
Speaker 1: little surprised if America was on the first couple of trips.
Speaker 1: All right, we got a lot of ground to covered.
Speaker 1: Love your take on that, and there are many more
Speaker 1: texts coming in and I'll get to those as well.
Speaker 1: But so many things going on locally, including the Democrats
Speaker 1: just flat out making it clear now that they put
Speaker 1: folks here illegally ahead of you. They're taking out the
Speaker 1: license plate readers here on the Dan Capitla Show.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6: And when they took off a Buddha dieste who has
Speaker 6: no clue. You know, he drives to work in as
Speaker 6: a bicycle with his with his no fairness, with his
Speaker 6: husband on the back, which is a nice, loving relationship.
Speaker 1: But he didn't have a clue. This guy didn't have
Speaker 1: a clue that he's.
Speaker 6: Actually a contender for president between him and Crockett, you
Speaker 6: can have that party.
Speaker 1: But he didn't perform three or three seven three eight
Speaker 1: two five five the number text d A N five
Speaker 1: seven seventeen nine. But he is every day right. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is such a great time to be alive. You've
Speaker 1: got Trump in his second term, the very best version
Speaker 1: of Trump. He's also he also us to be the
Speaker 1: most entertaining president we've had in our lifetime or maybe
Speaker 1: any lifetime. And then today we get the new Pope,
Speaker 1: American born guy from Chicago. I'm expecting great things. So
Speaker 1: we'll look forward to that. And as I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: because we've had a lot of text along the lines
Speaker 1: of wait a second, you know, isn't the pope quote
Speaker 1: anti Trump or whatever. And the point that I keep
Speaker 1: trying to emphasize is is wait a second. At first,
Speaker 1: this pope must be extraordinarily gifted and talented to have
Speaker 1: overcome the American born thing. Second, think of the key
Speaker 1: common ground. And President Trump's comments today about the new
Speaker 1: pope are beautiful and so positive and looking forward to
Speaker 1: visiting with the new Pope. And you look at the
Speaker 1: common ground they have together which dwarfs any differences. And
Speaker 1: the differences would be on immigration policy. But the common
Speaker 1: ground is foundational to Catholic teaching. That the common ground
Speaker 1: is blessed are the peacemakers. And that plays out in
Speaker 1: two different ways. First through abortion, because it's slaughtering so
Speaker 1: many innocents, and that is foundation, you know, for the
Speaker 1: Catholic Church. And President Trump is the single most powerful
Speaker 1: and effective pro life elected official in the world, and
Speaker 1: so you have that massive common ground. And then President
Speaker 1: Trump is a peacemaker when it comes to war, and
Speaker 1: popes are peacemakers when it comes to war. And President
Speaker 1: Trump's peace through strengths and pope is peace through prayer
Speaker 1: and other workings behind the scene. But they have that
Speaker 1: enormous common ground. So I'm very optimistic that they're going
Speaker 1: to have these large swaths of common ground where they
Speaker 1: can operate together, not on the phone with each other
Speaker 1: about this or that, but just so much that they
Speaker 1: both have an interest in accomplishing where they're on exactly
Speaker 1: the same page. Let's go to Centennial Colorado. Talk to Patty.
Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome Patty hy Van.
Speaker 7: I had an answer for Kelly's question.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and it wasn't.
Speaker 7: That there is a ask that we have to go
Speaker 7: to when there's a new pope. Yeah, but there is
Speaker 7: a liturgy for it. And today our archdaosis and priests
Speaker 7: were all down at their convocations, so there weren't mass
Speaker 7: public many public masses. I mean maybe there are tonight,
Speaker 7: but I was up at Focus and they have priests
Speaker 7: up there.
Speaker 2: That are not archdiosis, and so they celebrated a mass.
Speaker 7: I was up there right when they when poke uh
Speaker 7: cool Leo the fourteenth.
Speaker 1: Everybody was watching university students, Yeah, which is just an
Speaker 1: amazing group. But everybody was everybody who's watching the feed,
Speaker 1: I assume.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they had they had a team director, you know,
Speaker 7: luncheon or something, and they had the big screen up
Speaker 7: and I walk in and I'm in this room full
Speaker 7: of all these like college grads who was like cheering
Speaker 7: the pope on. And then I went in, I went
Speaker 7: to Mass, and it was a Mass said for the
Speaker 7: new pope and there is a liturgy for it.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 7: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. And who was in the seminary, mir
Speaker 1: or you because I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I had your way ahead of me.
Speaker 1: Well thank you, Patty appreciate that. Yeah, thank you. Wow. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I'm sure a lot of people had this experience today, right,
Speaker 1: some of us Catholic others just kind of following this
Speaker 1: this really big news story and the pageantry and everything else.
Speaker 1: But I was in this huge meeting and so I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I've got YouTube TV on and I've got
Speaker 1: everybody thinks I'm just like working on my iPad, right,
Speaker 1: but I've got the YouTube TV on And then following it,
Speaker 1: and then then when he was about to come out,
Speaker 1: I just had to come clean and put the sound
Speaker 1: up and we all just watched the announcement. And it
Speaker 1: was interesting because you know, I don't speak Latin. I
Speaker 1: became an altar boy just after you know, the heavy
Speaker 1: Latin stuff stopped, and so I didn't know what they
Speaker 1: were saying, but all I knew is the crowd in
Speaker 1: the square kind of it was obviously stunned, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know what that meant. And then finally we got
Speaker 1: the ki runs up and everything else. Damn says a
Speaker 1: text or oh it's from our friend Alexa. Any thoughts
Speaker 1: on Trump appointing Judge Janine Piro as the interim US
Speaker 1: attorney for d C. Yeah, I think it's great. Judge
Speaker 1: Janin from Fox is going to be the interim US
Speaker 1: attorney for d C, So I think she's going to
Speaker 1: do a good job. Dan yet another instance where Dems
Speaker 1: show their support for criminals. Those LPRs can put the
Speaker 1: bad guy in a stolen car via the bad guy's
Speaker 1: cell phone and secure rock solid conviction. What we're talking
Speaker 1: about is these license plate readers, right, this is You
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe this if you read it in a novel
Speaker 1: that the Democrats in Denver, Mike Johnston and the city
Speaker 1: Council they're taking out these license plate readers which have
Speaker 1: become a vital law enforcement tool and have cut down
Speaker 1: on autosaffs, and they've become very important when it comes
Speaker 1: to violent crime. Excuse me not getting emotional, just a
Speaker 1: frog in my throat. I think it's peanut butter really,
Speaker 1: But anyway, think about this, that they're taking out this
Speaker 1: critical law enforcement tool because it might lead to more
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants being detained. It can't even say the words
Speaker 1: right without thinking, wait, could that possibly be true? But
Speaker 1: it is? And think about that for a second. They
Speaker 1: are so certain that they are electorally bulletproof that the
Speaker 1: people of Colorado will not elect Republicans over Democrats that
Speaker 1: they're now blatantly and openly saying to the people of
Speaker 1: Colorado not these words, but through their actions, it's clear
Speaker 1: that they put the interest of folks here illegally ahead
Speaker 1: of the very lives and safety of our citizens. That
Speaker 1: they're willing to just be very upfront about that because
Speaker 1: they think the Republicans cannot beat them, and in Denver
Speaker 1: that's probably true. But then you think about the morality
Speaker 1: of this, right. I mean, not every policy disagreement is
Speaker 1: an enormous moral issue, but many are. But this is
Speaker 1: a profoundly immoral thing they're doing because what they're choosing
Speaker 1: to do is they know that they know how these
Speaker 1: things work. They are choosing to say to the parent
Speaker 1: whose child is kidnapped and these readers can help hopefully
Speaker 1: rescue the child. They're saying to that parent, no, your
Speaker 1: child is an acceptable casualty to make sure that people
Speaker 1: here illegally are not detained by ice. Think about what
Speaker 1: they're doing. I think about the underlying immorality of what
Speaker 1: they're doing. First, how do humans ever get to that point?
Speaker 1: How do the people who are voting to strip away
Speaker 1: this critical law enforcement tool ever get to that point
Speaker 1: where they care so little for innocent human life that
Speaker 1: they would just knowingly sacrifice it in favor of protecting
Speaker 1: people here illegally. And what they're really doing, right is
Speaker 1: they're sacrificing innocent human life in favor of their own
Speaker 1: political advancement because they know the big money in democratic
Speaker 1: politics now is from these far left, radical secularists who
Speaker 1: just want radical transformation of the country, want the borders
Speaker 1: completely open. They're actively encouraging illegal immigration because they view
Speaker 1: every legal immigrant as a Democrat voter. Yeah. Wow, I
Speaker 1: just don't know how a human gets to that point.
Speaker 1: And I can look at a lot of people who
Speaker 1: disagree with me on certain political issues and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I disagree with you, but I respect you and I
Speaker 1: understand your rationale, and I don't think they're being immoral.
Speaker 1: But this is an example of just immorality.
Speaker 4: Hey, Dan, I do have a question, since you can
Speaker 4: probably address this after the break in your catastrophic injury
Speaker 4: law practice, have you had a lot of dealings with
Speaker 4: illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's truly one of the greatest tragedies, right, because
Speaker 1: it's so hard, it's impossibly hard for somebody to deal
Speaker 1: with the wrongful death of a child or a husband
Speaker 1: or a wife or any loved one. But so many
Speaker 1: times in my practice, they then have the added mental
Speaker 1: torture of that death having been caused by somebody who
Speaker 1: should not have even been in the country. And that's
Speaker 1: just an additional layer of torture, of mental torture. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so it happens all the time, Kelly. And it's the
Speaker 1: other thing that's so grossly obscene about it is in
Speaker 1: every wrongful death is horrific, right, no matter who causes
Speaker 1: it's citizen or non citizen. But when the people who
Speaker 1: now don't have their child coming home ever again, when
Speaker 1: they have to live with the fact that that person
Speaker 1: who killed the child should not even be in the country.
Speaker 1: But then here's the other thing. So often when that
Speaker 1: person who kills the innocent person and say a reckless
Speaker 1: driving or some other form of wrongful death, they can
Speaker 1: just disappear over the border and never be found. So
Speaker 1: it's like this horrific two tiered system of justice where
Speaker 1: if that ultimate wrong is done by an American citizen,
Speaker 1: well at least they're here to face justice. There's never closure,
Speaker 1: and it's a cold kind of comfort for the victim.
Speaker 1: But think of the mental agony when the purpose trader
Speaker 1: of the wrongful death gets to just disappear over the border,
Speaker 1: never have to face justice, never be seen again. You're
Speaker 1: on the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5: Almighty God, because I'm standing up pre quality that my decisions.
Speaker 5: One day I will stand before him and be accountable. Well,
Speaker 5: this is what I believe. You ever seen that movie
Speaker 5: Talladega Knights, and you see that's actually where they're talking
Speaker 5: around the dinner table and they're talking about what their
Speaker 5: favorite version of Jesus is.
Speaker 3: All right, baby Jesus, I love baby Jesus, and.
Speaker 5: The guy goes, well, I love Leonard Skidder Jesus. When
Speaker 5: the angels are behind him and the choir is singing
Speaker 5: and he's playing free bird, Well my day judgment. I
Speaker 5: might be standing in front of trains, Jesus. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: That's what I believe, and I believe that Jesus God
Speaker 5: will look at me and say, you stood up for people.
Speaker 1: You set up for those who.
Speaker 5: We're less fortunate, who struggled. You may pass, you may answer.
Speaker 1: I think about how cocky these democrats are now that
Speaker 1: they get up on the floor and they openly mock God.
Speaker 1: You couldn't make this stuff up. And this guy's bragging
Speaker 1: about listen, hey, I have so many flaws on my own.
Speaker 1: This is not a comparison between me and him. This
Speaker 1: is just about him. But he's up there bragging about
Speaker 1: how he's going to be welcomed into heaven because he
Speaker 1: stood up for the weekend defenseless. I'm going to research tonight.
Speaker 1: I've been in trial, but I'm going to research tonight
Speaker 1: what his position on abortion is and if he is
Speaker 1: the typical Democrat who is hey, you can kill them
Speaker 1: all up till the moment of delivery. How's that going
Speaker 1: to square with this picture he has in his mind
Speaker 1: of being welcomed into heaven because he stood up for
Speaker 1: the weekend defenseless and for the life. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I've known plenty of people. One of the people I
Speaker 1: admire most in life is trans and I've known plenty
Speaker 1: of people whose kids are going through this kind of confusion.
Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. But if this guy thinks the ticket to
Speaker 1: heaven is mocking God on the floor of the house
Speaker 1: and then making sure that confused kids have their body
Speaker 1: parts cut off, he needs to be watching some different movies,
Speaker 1: I think. But I'd love to get him hon and
Speaker 1: have a conversation. And maybe I'm wrong, maybe he's actually
Speaker 1: pro life. But but if he is a typical elected
Speaker 1: Democrat and he's up there using God as a justification
Speaker 1: for mutilating these kids, Yeah, but no, he's he's going
Speaker 1: to be He's going to be praised for his work
Speaker 1: on Earth because he stood up for the vulnerable. No,
Speaker 1: what he did was he used the vulnerable as political
Speaker 1: pawns in terms of these confused kids. And then what
Speaker 1: he did is he supported the mass slaughter of the
Speaker 1: most vulnerable for political power. Because I don't know this
Speaker 1: person individually. I'd love to have a conversation with him
Speaker 1: on Area's welcome in studio. Let's have the big conversation.
Speaker 1: But I have to believe ninety nine point nine percent
Speaker 1: of all these Democrats who support abortion on demand to
Speaker 1: the moment of birth know it's wrong. They absolutely know
Speaker 1: it's wrong. If they're smart enough to put their name
Speaker 1: on an abe tag to go out and try to
Speaker 1: get elected, they know it's wrong. They're just willing to
Speaker 1: do it to get in keep political power. And then
Speaker 1: they've somehow got to reconcile that in their own mind,
Speaker 1: but then go out and brag about how that's why
Speaker 1: you're going to get into heaven because you stood up
Speaker 1: for the week in defenseless when you're back the mass
Speaker 1: slaughter of the most defenseless. Yeah, no, I hope we
Speaker 1: can get them on air and have the conversation. But
Speaker 1: this just ties into the bigger point today. Right, how
Speaker 1: far gone the Democrats in Colorado are the elected Democrats
Speaker 1: that they're willing to come right out and do all
Speaker 1: these crazy things and say all these crazy things and
Speaker 1: pull out the license plate readers that are so important
Speaker 1: in fighting crime because all they might help detain ilegal
Speaker 1: immigrants because they just think they're electorally bulletproofing. Maybe they are,
Speaker 1: but I think they've overplayed their hand. It would take
Speaker 1: perfect storm right, take the right candidates in that Senate
Speaker 1: and governor's race. It take really good campaigns. It would
Speaker 1: take some things falling into place. But hey, that's why
Speaker 1: this country exist. Strike Zach. What do you think the
Speaker 1: odds were against the Patriots at the start of the
Speaker 1: Revolutionary War? Probably very poor, Probably very long odds for them,
Speaker 1: I would think so. But they were willing to take
Speaker 1: on that fight. And because of that we have the
Speaker 1: amazingly talented Zach behind the board. Great to work with you,
Speaker 1: my friend Fred.
Speaker 3: To work with you too.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 1: Ryan is down there reveling in the Tigers doing whatever
Speaker 1: they want to do to the Rockies twice today in
Speaker 1: a doubleheader. Thank you, Kelly, you're the best look for
Speaker 1: duo being with you tomorrow on a glorious Spring Friday.
Speaker 1: Why don't we catch up tomorrow let's say four oh
Speaker 1: six on the Dan Kaplis Show. Have a good eving