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<v Speaker 1>In Denial, Secret Wars with air strikes and tanks Larry Hancock.

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<v Speaker 1>For more information, go to Larry hyphen Handcock dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick up your copy of In Denial at Amazon dot

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I reflexibly give the date at the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of this show so seamlessly in my brain that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember if I told you it was August first

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<v Speaker 2>today I think I did. Anyway, here we are Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>We are live at the moment. But of course if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not hearing us at about nine to thirty pm

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern here on Friday, August first, then you're hearing a

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<v Speaker 2>replay as I do have a twenty four hour seven

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<v Speaker 2>station on the internet that I don't know. Do we

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<v Speaker 2>need to keep the live show? That's your way, the

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<v Speaker 2>calling show would work, but do we need to keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing this?

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<v Speaker 3>Also?

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<v Speaker 2>Bpete made some proposals this week about doing news shows,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like them. But here's the thing, BPT, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be brutally honest with you. I wouldn't want you

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<v Speaker 2>to be the coosed for each one of those. We

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<v Speaker 2>need different calls for that. And tell you what, if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody wants to volunteer to close the news show with

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<v Speaker 2>me where we take calls. Email me blind JFK Researcher

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<v Speaker 2>at gmail dot com, or you can just click on

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<v Speaker 2>the email link on the website, or you can send

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<v Speaker 2>an email to info at Ocelli dot com. Guess what

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<v Speaker 2>They all come to me, And so do all of

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<v Speaker 2>the buttons on the website still, although one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>when you click on it says Luna rows of candles.

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<v Speaker 2>That's missus Oh's business, PayPal because mine is gone, Stripe account.

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<v Speaker 2>Other things are there, even memberships. I have not canceled them,

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<v Speaker 2>although the pains have been canceled. So all these things

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<v Speaker 2>going on, nobody's re upping, nobody's signing up, and only

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<v Speaker 2>a few friends have kept this thing afloat, whether by

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<v Speaker 2>learning or giving or helping out in some other way,

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<v Speaker 2>including somebody apparently I'm going to get, you know, something

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<v Speaker 2>in the mail hopefully we'll see soon, might be a

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<v Speaker 2>gift card. Let's say I don't know, you know, things

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<v Speaker 2>are going to show up and things are not going

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<v Speaker 2>to show up here. Well, one of them could be

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<v Speaker 2>me if it keeps up. But if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be part of this, I want somebody with a different

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<v Speaker 2>point of view from VPTE to cover the news with me,

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<v Speaker 2>because I can have him with me, but I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of know where his spin is going to go. I

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<v Speaker 2>want somebody who's either unpredictable or on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of that, somebody else to oppose my weird sort of

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<v Speaker 2>twisted libertarian kind of style thinking and the weirdness where

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<v Speaker 2>I seem to piss everybody off. I want somebody different

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<v Speaker 2>than me to cover it with me. If I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a co host, and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>sit here and just do news by myself and take calls,

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<v Speaker 2>at least not all the time, because that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get annoying. So please let me know if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to become a co host. Let's talk about it. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>see where you're at. Let's see what your level of

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<v Speaker 2>analysis is, because we need something different from what they

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<v Speaker 2>get elsewhere. I don't want to do the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>other people do. I just don't you want that. You

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<v Speaker 2>can get it from somebody who's got a better budget

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<v Speaker 2>and gives you the latest technology and whatever else and

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<v Speaker 2>even the networks that I was offered to join this

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<v Speaker 2>week and all that good stuff. I mean, I might

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<v Speaker 2>as well, just join somebody else's network feed this show

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<v Speaker 2>through there, let them gain the ad revenue and hope

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<v Speaker 2>I ever get paid. That's what I might as well do,

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<v Speaker 2>because that would be easier, less frustrating, and less work

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<v Speaker 2>for me. But I'd like to keep this unique and

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<v Speaker 2>independent completely. Anyway, it is what it is. Call in

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<v Speaker 2>three one nine five seven five zero one six. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get back around to the callers, and anybody knew

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<v Speaker 2>that joins us VPT anything, we should cover them before

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<v Speaker 2>I go back to the callers.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you said you were going to quiz me on

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<v Speaker 4>the Danville story. But other than that, we got naked News.

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<v Speaker 4>We hold that to the last if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's hang on to naked News and the Danville story.

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<v Speaker 2>But tell me about what the public face of the

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<v Speaker 2>Danville story is according to what it is you decided

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<v Speaker 2>to grab off the internet because I gave there's no

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<v Speaker 2>rehearsal of this, folks. So I want to see what

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<v Speaker 2>happens compared to the knowledge I gained by digging into

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<v Speaker 2>this off the record and outside of just reading articles.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see what happens here and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to show you guys something, So tell me what it

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<v Speaker 2>is you know about the story, BPTE, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>The two people involved counselman Lee Vulgar Volgler, councilman in

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<v Speaker 4>Danville City and the person that burst into his office

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<v Speaker 4>with gasoline. His name is Michael buck Hayes. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>hyphenated last name, Schatzi Michael Buckeys. Anyway, hey, Buckeyes decided

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<v Speaker 4>to force his way into Vogler's office of his job

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<v Speaker 4>where he works for a local magazine, Dust Roman. Gasoline

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<v Speaker 4>guy runs out of office. This guy follows him and

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<v Speaker 4>sets him on fire, and according to the story from

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<v Speaker 4>the I think this is the Danville newspaper, it says

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<v Speaker 4>that buck Hays admitted that he wanted the flames to

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<v Speaker 4>kill him, so he wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Kill the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>They got him charged with the attempted first degree murder

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<v Speaker 4>and some other charge of malicious wounding or something. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>is anyone to kill the guy? Everything that they have

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<v Speaker 4>in here. Apparently this guy was going through a divorce.

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<v Speaker 4>He had been separated from his wife since September thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 4>and in Virginia you only have to be separated six

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<v Speaker 4>months and you can file for a divorce.

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<v Speaker 5>Here it's a year.

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<v Speaker 4>So his wife filed here just a few days ago,

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<v Speaker 4>I think on July fourteenth, the divorce was granted. This

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<v Speaker 4>on fire, and they say that the reasons were personal.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing comes to my mind is Vogler is

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<v Speaker 4>somehow connected to this guy's ex life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, that's interesting, and it leaves out a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of stuff. And I'll tell you what the reporter

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<v Speaker 2>is basing everything on in that story. What they got

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<v Speaker 2>a sheriff's department or it is the state, or it

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<v Speaker 2>is the local PD. That is from the cops. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all that reporter did. I don't care what their bent is,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what their political leanings are. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>that reporter did is went to the cops and said

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<v Speaker 2>what happened? They told him, the reporter printed it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all they did. Meanwhile, my dumb ass actually gets

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with people that know what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>It was known for a long time that this guy was, say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know they actually used that against this politician who

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<v Speaker 2>still needed a day job because you know, the town

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<v Speaker 2>council thing was not that good. They used it against

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<v Speaker 2>that guy to hold him back from you know, upscaling,

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<v Speaker 2>upgrading his political office. Okay, but nobody gave a crap

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to the husband who got left in the

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<v Speaker 2>wake of that, hypothetically, and this guy freaked out. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been freaked out. He's been saying crazy things. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, if anybody does properly, they find out that

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement ignored it. And this guy wound up walking

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<v Speaker 2>into that place with a gallon of gas lead or

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<v Speaker 2>a couple gallons of gas. The leader lit this dude up,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the bottom line of the story. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>he meant to kill him. That guy is enraged he

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<v Speaker 2>got used in this situation, not only by his you

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<v Speaker 2>know now ex wife. And by the way, New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's eighteen months of separation before he can file for

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of no fault divorce. And that's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is that there's a minimum and then there's other extenuating circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>like in some places they'll only make you wait three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks if you had like serious domestic violence things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said in New Jersey, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>just say, look, no want no foul. We just both

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<v Speaker 2>want a divorce. Eighteen months six months is impressive where

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<v Speaker 2>you are, that's neat or where he is six months

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<v Speaker 2>you said a year where you are, sorry the other

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<v Speaker 2>way around. I like that, but eighteen months in Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't cohabitate during that time otherwise it resets

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<v Speaker 2>the clock, which is hilarious too anyhow, And they take

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<v Speaker 2>the word of it that two people opposing each other

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<v Speaker 2>in court, if you both agree, then that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Just let you know, and nobody tries to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like provide us with proof anyway. Yeah, that's the inside

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<v Speaker 2>dope on that. And Mike Swanson wants nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with commenting on it publicly, but he knew wheen of

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<v Speaker 2>the individuals involved, so he wants absolutely zero to do

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is not my source for the information I

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<v Speaker 2>just gave you, though he didn't argue with me either,

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so.

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<v Speaker 6>Show a non confirmation confirmation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well for Mike, who is somebody I actually trust to know? Well, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I get other work digging on this that again.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the difference between me and just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because these idiots are saying all it does do is

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<v Speaker 2>read new stories? You do anything? Yeah, I do, but

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<v Speaker 2>you guys don't care and you don't value it, most

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<v Speaker 2>of you. So I'm just pointing something out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I want that known that if I cover

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<v Speaker 2>a new story and it just you do you just

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<v Speaker 2>read the Woods and Unique and then you discided you're

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<v Speaker 2>neuron if you think so. Because I do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of work before I even bring up a story on

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<v Speaker 2>look at this, and you've you ever noticed, I go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to say until I dig into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always in that default position because I take a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time to go over things and to provide

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<v Speaker 2>you with something. Again, Unique call up and take the

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<v Speaker 2>cops word for everything. Either I will get that information

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<v Speaker 2>from their you know, public relations officer. They have other

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<v Speaker 2>phrases for this, like it's you know, public public relations,

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<v Speaker 2>public liaison, press liaison officer. Lots of different phrases for

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<v Speaker 2>this all across the country, but there's generally a guy

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<v Speaker 2>there to answer questions from the public or from the

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<v Speaker 2>press in most law enforcement office agencies with any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of decent size to them. But you know the best

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<v Speaker 2>of the best, and the people that you're willing to

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<v Speaker 2>donate to and the people whose words you're willing to take.

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<v Speaker 2>So they just read off other people's crap, which came

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<v Speaker 2>off of usually just the cops story in the circumstance.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you think the cops tell you the whole story, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I was you, because ignorance is apparently bliss. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>enough out of me, Let's go back around to the

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<v Speaker 2>call and maybe we'll even do a round table before

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<v Speaker 2>we're all done. Oh, we got a new caller, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get to you shortly. My friend, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't recognize you. I'm definitely bringing you on soon. But

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<v Speaker 2>first let's go back around to spend Kent because he's

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<v Speaker 2>been waiting a while. And then we also have let's see,

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<v Speaker 2>original three. But first, Smog Kent, what's happening, man?

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to. I wanted to make a comment about

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<v Speaker 7>forgot his name. But before I get there, Chuck, I

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<v Speaker 7>want to do something. Help out I do. I do

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<v Speaker 7>I don't I don't even know what these peas. I've

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<v Speaker 7>heard of them, but I don't know what they are.

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<v Speaker 7>These things you send them the mail, the needs pay

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<v Speaker 7>is it the cards or something. I don't know anything

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<v Speaker 2>So well, how do you how do you pay for

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I tell you why, we get a chance

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<v Speaker 2>Me on that a little bit, okay, but we'll go

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out. Man. Look, it's not like I can't

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<v Speaker 2>use it, and it's not like I'm ignoring you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just that I've gotten tied up with other crap lately.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I still want to cast something, but I'll

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<v Speaker 7>give you an email. But I mean, you know what

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<v Speaker 7>they you know expect with me on the co host thing.

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<v Speaker 7>So whatever, you know. So anyways, I just wonder to

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<v Speaker 7>I just I mean, like, for me, I don't have

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<v Speaker 7>in the mail literally, because I'm just so bad at

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<v Speaker 7>the party all the time on technology, and I've kind

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<v Speaker 7>of been pretty good at staying off the good the

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<v Speaker 7>last ten years. But now my job and other reason

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<v Speaker 7>forcing me into twenty twenty five. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 7>kind of cold just sitting back at nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 7>I should like being twenty five again. But now I'm

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<v Speaker 7>about to turn fifty five on Tuesday. Say here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know. I was thinking a lot about my

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<v Speaker 2>ninety so yours was what in nineteen eighty seven, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight?

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<v Speaker 7>So I was able to vote vote for Bush senior?

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<v Speaker 7>Can you believe it? But maybe at the time, I

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<v Speaker 7>guess you could.

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<v Speaker 2>I could believe that. But here's the funny part. Right

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety two when I got to vote, I voted

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<v Speaker 2>for Clinton. But you know, but some people will go

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<v Speaker 2>close and do the liberal.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was just on the row.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not why I wanted. I kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go through the world. But here was the calculus, He's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to win. Yeah, so I voted he.

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<v Speaker 7>Can't close or whatever the lot of change their rules

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<v Speaker 7>because they were like improvement with the debates.

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<v Speaker 3>And different things.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah what what you know, Winter was always bitching about

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<v Speaker 7>well and people.

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<v Speaker 2>Forgot people forget this nowadays. But but Perou literally bought

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<v Speaker 2>CNA time. And I'll tell you why. He would have

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<v Speaker 2>ice cube chance in hell to make it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't. I knew he didn't. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who actively got pissed when they didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to back him for pulling out, you know, left behind

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<v Speaker 2>prisoners of war in Vietnam. A lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that about Ross Paroul. He did what Now, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know how we had a lot of missing in

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<v Speaker 2>action people in Vietnam, Prisoners of year that were legendarily

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<v Speaker 2>still there after the conflict ended. Well, Duou was somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who put money into trying to get those people back home.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I've always forgetting him back home. I never heard

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<v Speaker 7>that he wasn't. But if he wasn't, he was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're miss hearing me. Parole tried to put his

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<v Speaker 7>Oh oh he did so, I've actually said the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other guy winning in a parole perot. That's why he

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<v Speaker 2>would have had my vote if I thought he had

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<v Speaker 2>an ice cube's chance in hell of making it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if Dodger had a slim chance of making it, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have voted parole. But people hearing you voted Clinton

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<v Speaker 2>a coruse because you were liberally he Trump. These two

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<v Speaker 2>things do matter. Creat Clinton was the cooler choice between

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<v Speaker 2>Bush and himself for an eighteen year old who didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know much.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry he remember he financed a rescue of a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of EDS employees in seventy nine out of Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about parole again, right, Yeah, yeah, he financed

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<v Speaker 2>all that. Yeah, because human.

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<v Speaker 3>Beings, you right for.

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<v Speaker 7>Pepete, or didn't you go from senior.

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<v Speaker 4>The same thing I went to opposite the truck I

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<v Speaker 4>voted because I knew he wasn't gonna win, but he

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<v Speaker 4>cost He cost the election one for him.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think Clinton would have won.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not, but anyway, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, how many Yeah, I've heard that before too.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it was claude what I wrote.

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<v Speaker 7>It was, I only voted because, like I thought that

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know that back then anyway, So I kind

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<v Speaker 7>of voted because I first thought he was the stand

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<v Speaker 7>up dude. I didn't really think about any of that

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<v Speaker 7>other stuff. But then I didn't vote again til two

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<v Speaker 7>thousand and four, and that was Bruce Junior. The second time,

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<v Speaker 7>Bruce Junior because of the nine to eleven and everything,

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<v Speaker 7>I was really drung hold, you know at the time Republican,

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<v Speaker 7>Sean Hannity guy and so I but in two thousand

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<v Speaker 7>and eight didn't vote. Twenty twelve, the last time I

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<v Speaker 7>did vote, I voted for Gary Johnson. I know he's

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<v Speaker 7>a joke too, but I said, at least thing't say

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<v Speaker 7>I wrote for a libertarian at that time. And then

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<v Speaker 7>from there I just you know, seen the.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights that But in that ninety two election, In that

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<v Speaker 2>ninety two election, side note every other switch I flipped.

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<v Speaker 2>I think was Republican, and I mean from sheriff to

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<v Speaker 2>everything else in the voting booth, everything else was Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just Clinton just to me, seemed to be

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<v Speaker 2>the better choice between the two people. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>evaluated at eighteen. Sorry, but that's what I thought, and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else went Republican to me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, you live and you learn a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>But in the yeah, you learn a lot, just over

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<v Speaker 7>even every year you learn something. I guess, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 7>but I don't want to lease why. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 7>to say something about Florida.

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<v Speaker 5>So before I get.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, please do it, because I want to move on

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<v Speaker 2>again and try and move through everybody quickly. So go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>I shut up now.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't remember the guy's name, but he says from Ocala, Califoria.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's Chris.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, he's pretty close to me. He's

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<v Speaker 7>out in the sticks there, he's I'm uh yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>over here at the beach. I'm I'm right here at

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<v Speaker 7>New Simona Beach, right on the New Simerona and uh

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<v Speaker 7>so he's in land, but he's there's big camping out

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<v Speaker 7>there and lots of parks and springs and a big

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<v Speaker 7>forest out there. I've been up through there, but I've

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<v Speaker 7>never camped or anything over there. But it's it's really

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<v Speaker 7>cool out in the sticks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you what put him on? Was you

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<v Speaker 2>real quick? Before we get to the new callers, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently you guys are neighbors. Maybe you guys could hang

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<v Speaker 2>out in the same woods, because I think you both

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<v Speaker 2>like some woods.

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<v Speaker 3>I am. I was pulling out sticker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, what's up? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 7>Chris? I don't know that in Paradise, as.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, but you guys might be sort of closest

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<v Speaker 2>to together in Florida. You might be in similar locations.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I'm putting both time together so you

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<v Speaker 2>can both talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you're out there in the sticks a bit. Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you ever been to hat Bill Park?

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<v Speaker 7>It's south uh it memes.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not.

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<v Speaker 7>I've heard of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not been there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>A good thing about hat Bill Unlike you know everywhere else,

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<v Speaker 7>including where you're at, it's free. It's free camping. But

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<v Speaker 7>apparently you're only supposed to get Fridays or Saturday. Fridays

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<v Speaker 7>and Saturdays. But people you know, it's a boat dock

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<v Speaker 7>and people are out there with their airboats and it's

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<v Speaker 7>like it's a good party spot. But sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's you're right along the Saint John's River and

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<v Speaker 7>you know there's gators around. It's a really cool place.

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<v Speaker 7>I kayak there once, but there's just two. I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>worried about gators. I'm worried about them freaking airboats.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the gators. Yeah, I went on that's that's seen.

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<v Speaker 9>The gator probably about three three and a half feet

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<v Speaker 9>across from you know, one of the one of the roadways.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, while yeah, we're we're in.

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<v Speaker 3>The middle of the swamp. And then yeah, three and

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<v Speaker 3>a half.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a that's the when you grow up gravige tail.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been I've been down in Florida for about twenty years.

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<v Speaker 7>I lived in Lakeland for the first ten. I've been

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<v Speaker 7>down here, you know, Edgewater for the last ten. So

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<v Speaker 7>it's nice here. It's I like Edgewater Way during Lakeland.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I'm originally you know, I.

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<v Speaker 10>When I was moved in Florida, you know, by my parents,

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<v Speaker 10>I was you know, moved down to Sarasota, but you know, voluntarily,

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<v Speaker 10>I moved up here in Okalla, had an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 5>To my house, you know, the de piece of property.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh said, cool, that's a.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean the only thing I can actually claim about

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<v Speaker 9>is just the overgrowth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, over development.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean there's too many people talking here, too many.

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<v Speaker 9>Department complex is coming up, housing developments.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's that we've been flooded by the.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I said. You know, I've always said Florida is.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a picture.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that you know, that's that's still from the

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<v Speaker 7>You know, they want to be you know, they want

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<v Speaker 7>to be putting new houses and everything and all this

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<v Speaker 7>you know progress or whatever, like into the Saint John's

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<v Speaker 7>River and everything else is like nah, man were houses here.

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<v Speaker 9>They're just throwing everything in there, every piece of every

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<v Speaker 3>You know, wet lands, wild lands.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in there. Look at what they're doing here where

424
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<v Speaker 7>I'm at. You know, you know, a mosquito, the Union

425
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<v Speaker 7>and uh, the Indian River right here. You know there

426
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<v Speaker 7>there's they are all kinds of problems because of development,

427
00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:07.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, and the vanitese or something you know, evolved

428
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<v Speaker 7>and and then the grass has been gone and the

429
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<v Speaker 7>Water's muky here now this is where I kayak, you know,

430
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<v Speaker 7>and uh, but it's it's just too much development.

431
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<v Speaker 3>They got a chill a man, but there's no sign

432
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<v Speaker 3>of it.

433
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<v Speaker 7>They're gonna take Martin, take Audi man.

434
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, unfortunately.

435
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<v Speaker 2>So there you go, Florida stories from two Florida guys,

436
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<v Speaker 2>and don't worry. I'll get back to both of you

437
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<v Speaker 2>as soon as I can. But I want to get

438
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<v Speaker 2>the new caller in before I go back around to Danny,

439
00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:38.240
<v Speaker 2>who I imagine will be a little more patient to

440
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<v Speaker 2>wait just a minute and uh, let's see uh eight

441
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<v Speaker 2>one seven year own.

442
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<v Speaker 11>Oh yes, Well, I just wanted to say that, you know,

443
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<v Speaker 11>Alex Winter that have played Ted and from the Billa

444
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<v Speaker 11>and Ted movies. G made a documentary on soilk Road.

445
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<v Speaker 11>I know silk Old was brought up about an hour ago.

446
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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

447
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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to.

448
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<v Speaker 11>Throw that out there and it's pretty good, pretty good documentary.

449
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<v Speaker 11>But also I just wanted to go everyone's appearing on

450
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<v Speaker 11>in terms of the po ws and John mckayin anyone

451
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<v Speaker 11>remember that there was a controversy with John McKain with

452
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<v Speaker 11>bringing back POWs, which is kind of ironic giving his

453
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<v Speaker 11>black story.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is. It's very interesting. I wonder if b

455
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<v Speaker 2>Pete wants to comment on that, especially because you know

456
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about the John McCain backstory in the controversy,

457
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<v Speaker 2>don't you be Pete.

458
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's always been on my dirt cloud list, the dirt.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Cloud list for new listeners if there are any is

460
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<v Speaker 2>people that really deserve to be you know, hit in

461
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<v Speaker 2>the head with a dirt clod somewhere in public at

462
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<v Speaker 2>some point, and would be more than happy to do that.

463
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<v Speaker 2>And John McCain's on your dirt cloud list.

464
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Oh, he's been there.

465
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, John McCain.

466
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<v Speaker 4>And as soon as he got elected office, he pretty

467
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<v Speaker 4>much started pushing POWs to them as to the side,

468
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<v Speaker 4>and he really didn't do anything the whole time he was.

469
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<v Speaker 2>In Man, much like most of America, except they felt

470
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<v Speaker 2>good when they watched the Chuck Norris movie.

471
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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, but what'll take me off was the fact that,

472
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<v Speaker 4>you know, he used his war injurjuries and the fact

473
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<v Speaker 4>that he was a prisoner of war and there's some

474
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<v Speaker 4>very questionable things about what he gave up as a

475
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<v Speaker 4>prisoner of war, wrecked a couple of airplanes, you know,

476
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<v Speaker 4>but his dad was an admiral, so you know, what

477
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<v Speaker 4>are you gonna do?

478
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<v Speaker 2>Interesting? And admiral who does come up in some interesting

479
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<v Speaker 2>historical events if one does study McCain's dad. There, you know,

480
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<v Speaker 2>just saying and with a smirk. But because I'm not

481
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<v Speaker 2>even gonna bother to tell you about it, how about

482
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<v Speaker 2>that's it would.

483
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<v Speaker 4>Be the ultimate definition of what people call a rhino

484
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<v Speaker 4>Republican and name only.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that definition is altered itself in the past

486
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<v Speaker 2>few years, hasn't it.

487
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<v Speaker 3>You know.

488
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<v Speaker 2>The reason why the soilk Road thing came up, though,

489
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<v Speaker 2>is because Trump pardoned the guy. And that's interesting, isn't it,

490
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<v Speaker 2>especially along with if you want to, you know, just

491
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<v Speaker 2>do a little cross section of the other drug kingpins

492
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<v Speaker 2>that you know, and you can count that guy as

493
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<v Speaker 2>a drug kingpin that Trump has pardoned quietly and nobody

494
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<v Speaker 2>even bothers to mention. It's pretty funny. I mean, you know, yeah, Biden,

495
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<v Speaker 2>this whole family and weird people that he decided to pardon. Sure,

496
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.519
<v Speaker 2>but it's almost funny when you take a look at

497
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<v Speaker 2>somebody's pardon lists and how nobody pays attention to why

498
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<v Speaker 2>in the hell would this president even care about this

499
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<v Speaker 2>list of people? And it ain't always the autopen either, baby. No, no, no, no, no,

500
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it's payback. Use your head, okay, anyway, Sorry, anything else

501
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:56.240
<v Speaker 2>you want to add to this, because by all means,

502
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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that that little comment you brought up. I'm

503
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<v Speaker 2>trying to No, I just want to make sure it

504
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just me, No, not at all.

505
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<v Speaker 11>But I also I also saw I saw in the

506
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<v Speaker 11>news something that happened in Cincinnati where a couple of

507
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<v Speaker 11>people got stomped during like a parade or a music festival.

508
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<v Speaker 3>Does anyone know anything about that?

509
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 5>Or am I late to the party with it?

510
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, between the New York shooting and the

511
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 2>guy who got lit on fire who happens to be

512
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Mike Swanson's neighbor, I've been a little distracted. I don't

513
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<v Speaker 2>know if you heard that story.

514
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, all right, fair enough.

515
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, like I dug into those things, so I'm

516
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<v Speaker 2>not aware of the Cincinnati story. But if you have

517
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<v Speaker 2>a link and you're in the chat room, please put

518
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<v Speaker 2>it there because I'd love to look at it anyway,

519
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 2>you know.

520
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<v Speaker 11>No, that's all I just wanted to add. I want

521
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<v Speaker 11>to make sure that I wasn't off pace. With the

522
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<v Speaker 11>silk quoting or John McCain not to this smirch anybody,

523
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<v Speaker 11>but you know, I'm McCain and I always so I

524
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<v Speaker 11>was full full of it.

525
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And there's a couple of good documentaries on that

526
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Silk Road deal. And I think I watched the one

527
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:09.799
<v Speaker 2>that you're talking about, but that's not the one that's

528
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 2>in three parts though. That's the one that's one solid piece, right, Okay, okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

529
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<v Speaker 11>Alex Winter he was indeed, yeah, he makes documentary films.

530
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<v Speaker 3>It was pretty good.

531
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<v Speaker 2>It was actually good. It was really well, like actually

532
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>so well done. I was kind of like, whoa that one?

533
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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was pretty good. It was about as

534
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<v Speaker 2>good as that slew of again, the opioid crisis documentaries

535
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>that came and went a couple.

536
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<v Speaker 3>Of years ago. It was Dope Sick, Yeah.

537
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Like Dope Sick, and a few other ones where you know,

538
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.720
<v Speaker 2>they had the drama one with Michael Keaton in it,

539
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 2>and they had Dope Sick. And there was another one

540
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 2>on that HBO did that was freaking amazing and it

541
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 2>was like, damn, they're actually telling the truth in the

542
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>documentary that open Media Pete for why uh oh? The

543
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Sackler family is on the ship list.

544
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<v Speaker 11>Oh yeah, and they got they got a sweetheart deal, yeah,

545
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:13.880
<v Speaker 11>which is disgusting.

546
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.640
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's all I won.

547
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what the funny part about the

548
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Sacklers is the most ironic and just tells you how

549
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the system really works, is they're selling opiates to pay

550
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>off their opioid fines. So yeah, you know, just saying,

551
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>just saying, and you know you can thank them always

552
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>for oxy cotton mor hill Billy heroin as they used

553
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:40.599
<v Speaker 2>to call it. Just just saying. Anyway, hang on a second,

554
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Let's get the Danny if you If you hang on,

555
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 2>we'll get back to you again. But I want to

556
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>get back around to Danny real quick before we go

557
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 2>any further, and anybody else who wants to join us,

558
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 2>I will add you in as we go and get

559
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 2>back around to everybody who's on the line before we're done,

560
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>for sure. Three one nine five two seven five zero

561
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<v Speaker 2>one six three one nine five two seven five zero

562
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>one six is the number to call. Yeah, I know,

563
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 2>like I held you back a minute, but I saw

564
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<v Speaker 2>another call of colors. Yeah, go ahead, it.

565
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 12>Was yeah, yeah, Crime of the Century that HBO documentary

566
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<v Speaker 12>on the opioid and the sacklers.

567
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<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's it. That was the name of the

568
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 2>crime of the century. Thank you, Danny. I appreciate that. Yeah,

569
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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

570
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<v Speaker 5>No worry as an excellent documentary.

571
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<v Speaker 12>And a little story under the fly, under the radar you.

572
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<v Speaker 12>On Friday, every first of the month, the Bureau of

573
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<v Speaker 12>Labor Statistics comes out the report. Report came out five

574
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<v Speaker 12>hours later, I believe a couple hours later, Chump fired

575
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<v Speaker 12>the head of the Bureau Labor Statistics.

576
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<v Speaker 5>One of the reasons.

577
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<v Speaker 7>Is because of if you know how the sord.

578
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<v Speaker 12>Labor works with economists, which is real boin stuff, but

579
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<v Speaker 12>very important and pertinent, is that they also have to

580
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<v Speaker 12>adjust because sometimes their statistics are there's a one, two

581
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.039
<v Speaker 12>and three month lag and they started adjusting, so the

582
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 12>numbers one was rosy. So whoever replaced, who just wants

583
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.960
<v Speaker 12>to tell the emperor has no clothes, it's not going

584
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 12>to be beneficial for all Americans, whether you're conservative.

585
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 5>Liberal, or none of the above.

586
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.240
<v Speaker 12>Is it's really important to kind of know what direction

587
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 12>economy's going and what's being affected.

588
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 5>So that point there.

589
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 12>As far as MIAs, when I enlisted, I heard from

590
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 12>bets from Vietnam, and they had all kinds of different

591
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 12>stories about people were left behind. Some were deliberate, some

592
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 12>were just they just were missing, probably killed the naturally.

593
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 12>But those are just a lot of things once we

594
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.079
<v Speaker 12>kind of pulled out that were unanswered.

595
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because people who think that Afghanistan was the first

596
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 2>bad disaster in you know, pulling out of a country.

597
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Obviously you're not familiar with the Vietnam War because not

598
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>only was the entry into that war pull but there

599
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of crap that went on through ineptitude,

600
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>people not listening to Westmoreland early on like they should have, uh,

601
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, and a bunch of other things, but also

602
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 2>us getting involved in that whole excursion due to the

603
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>false flag app operation to begin with, Oops, I'm a

604
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theorist. No, go check with the military dot gov's

605
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>official history of the Vietnam War, and if you can

606
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>read what you're looking at, maybe a bullet hole ended

607
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>up in a boat. Maybe, And that's what started the

608
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the need to introduce our active troops into Vietnam, you know,

609
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 2>right ran the Johnson administration.

610
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<v Speaker 12>So the Pentagonue papers, uh to two really great books

611
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<v Speaker 12>on the Afghanistan would be one that was I think

612
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 12>Steve Cloes Ghost Wars that talked about, you know, kind

613
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<v Speaker 12>of the CIA and starting with the Zepperninsky, Jimmy Carter

614
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.519
<v Speaker 12>and Ronald Reagan. And then another one is the you know,

615
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 12>follow up would be the Afghans papers.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you were probably really understand why the pullout

617
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<v Speaker 5>happened the way it is.

618
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<v Speaker 12>But I'm going to be a little you know, contraryan

619
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<v Speaker 12>on it is that I'm glad we pulled out. You know,

620
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.119
<v Speaker 12>we should have never been there in the first place,

621
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<v Speaker 12>and it was never going to go.

622
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<v Speaker 2>Well in both places, whether Afghanistan or Vietnam, you know,

623
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<v Speaker 2>the two longest excursions into far wars in this nation's history,

624
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<v Speaker 2>you know, officially anyway, and yes, Vietnam is a much

625
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>longer conflict than any history book shows you because of Lite. Frankly,

626
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>we started screwing around with trying to help out the

627
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>French and you can look at the disaster at a

628
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 2>place called the Nbian Foo I think it's pronounced, and

629
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I probably just butchered it.

630
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<v Speaker 5>But you know, you got pretty close. That happened in

631
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<v Speaker 5>the mid fifties.

632
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<v Speaker 2>Correct when we were involved from then and covertly at

633
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<v Speaker 2>the time with the overt involvement in the introduction of

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<v Speaker 2>just ground pounding. Guys starts after Kennedy dies. Very simple.

635
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<v Speaker 5>But you know the other thing with Vietnam, it really started.

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<v Speaker 12>When they when the end of the coming up on

637
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<v Speaker 12>the on the two bombings, I think the eightieth Anniversity

638
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 12>of Hiroshima and Nakasaki. But really started once the Japanese

639
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<v Speaker 12>kind of pulled out of there of that part of

640
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 12>Southeast Asia. Because Ho Chi Minh was looking, he was

641
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<v Speaker 12>quoting you know Jefferson, you know, Thomas Jefferson. He was

642
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<v Speaker 12>really hoping for the United States was going to kind

643
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 12>of like support Vietnam uh as an ally like it

644
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 12>was basically he was, you know, a resistance right, and

645
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.320
<v Speaker 12>we just kind of bought into the French, you know,

646
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 12>keeping our colonial holds and then the Cold War. But

647
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.639
<v Speaker 12>you know, there is a lot of mistakes that we

648
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.719
<v Speaker 12>did in foreign policy. Might have written a lot of

649
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 12>a lot of pain and suffering.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Ho Chi min would have been more happy to

651
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<v Speaker 2>be allied with the United States than he was with

652
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 2>the Communists. But history doesn't remember it that way too easily,

653
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<v Speaker 2>does it. Uh, it was he would have.

654
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.920
<v Speaker 12>He would have we could have made an ally and

655
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<v Speaker 12>even if he would have, you know, lean to more

656
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 12>of a Marxi state. I mean, look there there's still

657
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 12>kind of marks that we do business with them. You know,

658
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.119
<v Speaker 12>they they looked at the Chinese, it's the natural enemy

659
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 12>as a born invader, just like they saw the French.

660
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 5>Right, and just as this all the Americans they were patriots, right.

661
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>But until we invaded, they would have welcomed us as

662
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.599
<v Speaker 2>partners and allies. And that's the thing that we supported

663
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the Catholic based regime in the in the South right.

664
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<v Speaker 2>So there there was the massive mistake. And that's the

665
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:48.880
<v Speaker 2>funny thing as you look at things today and as

666
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<v Speaker 2>far as Afghanistan goes, it's a different circumstance. It's not

667
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 2>about colonialism. It's about where empires go to die, because

668
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 2>nobody convade Afghanistan. And you know, the Soviet Union could

669
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:04.480
<v Speaker 2>have to hold you that. Oh wait they did. Okay,

670
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't work. Don't do it. It's just foolish use

671
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.599
<v Speaker 2>other means. But again, people don't want to learn from

672
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 2>history because they don't want to learn history because every

673
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.800
<v Speaker 2>history book, not one of them, says it's real history. Huh.

674
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 5>Anyway, yeah, you're well, the victors, the victors right, the right, the.

675
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 12>Standard history books. I mean, the real patriots will kind

676
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 12>of dig deeper in it. So another thing too is

677
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 12>I just listened while I was working last night you're

678
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<v Speaker 12>yours in Pierce Redman's you know, our hour and fifteen

679
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.360
<v Speaker 12>minute discussion. I sure enjoy with you and Piers to

680
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 12>get together. You're really really are really hiptop chemistry and

681
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:49.719
<v Speaker 12>just kind of talking about the and he knows a

682
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:53.679
<v Speaker 12>lot about the Epstein, which I found it.

683
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 3>It was.

684
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:55.480
<v Speaker 5>It was a good episode.

685
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Just kudos, listen.

686
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.679
<v Speaker 2>I thank you for that. But I really want Peers

687
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:04.199
<v Speaker 2>to come back again, especially now because we were a

688
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>little bit ahead of the headlines there with that. But

689
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:13.039
<v Speaker 2>I think you could add much much more information to

690
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the sphere there, because it's really interesting how that evolved.

691
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Nobody gave a crap, then conspiracy theorists cared for a minute,

692
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and then that evolved into the right wingers grabbing it,

693
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:33.039
<v Speaker 2>and now it's a whole mess where you've got Trump

694
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.079
<v Speaker 2>saying the Democrats made up a whole bunch of stuff,

695
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>which is by the way, going to be the justification

696
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>for that's not going to be a commutation by Pete

697
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be a pardon, and that's going to

698
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.079
<v Speaker 2>be the justification. Hey, there's so much screwy stuff in

699
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 2>there that the Democrats made up.

700
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 3>We don't know what's real.

701
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:49.880
<v Speaker 5>We need to let her go.

702
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Oof, it's going to be corrected that way, be Pete.

703
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Watch and I'll bet your dollar on that if you want.

704
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I think you.

705
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 8>Wait now, I'm just thinking, I don't, I don't.

706
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:09.880
<v Speaker 2>You don't know if you want to wait your dollar.

707
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:09.880
<v Speaker 13>Do you?

708
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 4>It's awfully it's awfully hard to pardon someone trafficking kids.

709
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but if you turn it around and say that

710
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of fake crap in there and

711
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 2>that she took the fall for Epstein and just find

712
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:24.360
<v Speaker 2>that there's.

713
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Too much craft that they busted him for back in

714
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.119
<v Speaker 4>two thousand and six, I mean, even if you're just

715
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 4>looking at the New York stuff, it's going to be

716
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:31.360
<v Speaker 4>awfully hard to claim that.

717
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 2>We already people don't care about reality. They care about

718
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.760
<v Speaker 2>what they want and what they want to hear. So

719
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I gotta be honest. Think about it for

720
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 2>a minute, think about what people are willing to accept

721
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:43.920
<v Speaker 2>and to put aside and ignore.

722
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.039
<v Speaker 4>At this point, Well, true, I mean, he can't run again,

723
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 4>so you know, if he does it, you know it's

724
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 4>not going to matter.

725
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 8>Ain't got to worry about reelection.

726
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Well right, I mean, but just and here's the thing.

727
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Just as obvious as it was that Joe Biden was

728
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.280
<v Speaker 2>not cognitively capable will be in the president, it is

729
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.840
<v Speaker 2>as obvious to me that Trump is going to cut

730
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>a deal here.

731
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm serious.

732
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.559
<v Speaker 2>But okay, I'll take that bet with somebody if they

733
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:14.679
<v Speaker 2>want to take it with me, if you are against

734
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:17.039
<v Speaker 2>my idea, and we'll set a time limit if you like.

735
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 2>But it's only going to go until he tries to

736
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 2>run for a third term. So there you go. Because

737
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 2>he's still involved in the polls, by the way, and

738
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.440
<v Speaker 2>he's still the leading the leading candidate for the Republicans

739
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:33.400
<v Speaker 2>according to most you know, independent polls for the next

740
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:38.079
<v Speaker 2>presidential cycle, which doesn't make sense to me, but you

741
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>know what, a whole lot of things don't at this point.

742
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

743
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>We might have a third term president, even though everybody

744
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 2>was afraid Obama was going to do that. We might

745
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 2>have a third presidential term out of Trump.

746
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:54.159
<v Speaker 6>Well, Obama basically did have a third term with Biden.

747
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but basically versus literally reinstalling the same guy in

748
00:39:58.480 --> 00:39:59.679
<v Speaker 2>his eighties.

749
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:03.239
<v Speaker 8>I think Michae wouldn't let him do it.

750
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:09.639
<v Speaker 2>If you say so. Anyway, I'm gonna leave it at that.

751
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 2>What do you think we should do here? Be Pete,

752
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting everybody on hold for a moment, okay. And

753
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 2>we have spent kent. We have Chris fin Florida, we

754
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 2>have Danny from California, and we have Chris from the Northeast,

755
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>all up on the lines here.

756
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:28.679
<v Speaker 3>So what should we do?

757
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 4>Well is if you gotta get ready for Aaron's production.

758
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:37.480
<v Speaker 4>So it's up to you if you want to go.

759
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 4>Last remarks, Well, here's.

760
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<v Speaker 2>The bottom line on Aaron's production. There is no Aaron's

761
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 2>production tonight. Oh he was, which I was just recently

762
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.480
<v Speaker 2>informed of. So that's okay. Look, you can't make it home.

763
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna be able to broadcast. It's okay. I understand.

764
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I know some people to be disappointed and wondering where

765
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the age of transitions is right now? No Kelly dot Com.

766
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 2>But unfortunately I'm a when we got replays right now.

767
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he'll be back next week. But you know,

768
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 2>sometimes life gets in the way it happens. No worry's there.

769
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:14.239
<v Speaker 2>And besides that, I don't know, you know, does anybody

770
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 2>care that I'm even putting out a lot of material?

771
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but not important. I think it's more

772
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:22.320
<v Speaker 2>important to get to the viewers. But do you want

773
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.039
<v Speaker 2>me to just like, you know, let a little chaos

774
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.559
<v Speaker 2>reign for like ten to fifteen minutes or what?

775
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 5>Sure?

776
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, sure, you're good with that, because I want to

777
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 2>give you a chance to speak if you want to speak,

778
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>or anything else.

779
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 3>You know.

780
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 4>No, I've said all I had to say about McCain

781
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 4>and the POW situation.

782
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 8>We did have a guy here that really bent a

783
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 8>lot of people on.

784
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 6>That man was do you remember a guy named Ted Sampley.

785
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I do vaguely remember that name.

786
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 3>But what was his deal?

787
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 8>He was a veteran from Vietnam. He's from Kinston, and.

788
00:41:57.159 --> 00:41:59.199
<v Speaker 4>He was a thorn in the side there for quite

789
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 4>a few years going to Washington and protesting about our

790
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 4>MIAs and POW is fully accounting for him.

791
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 3>He was.

792
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 4>He was one of the major spokesmans from back when

793
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:10.480
<v Speaker 4>that was, you know, a popular thing back in the

794
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 4>eighties early nineties.

795
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what about him? What happened there.

796
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, he was just he was basically just especially I

797
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.159
<v Speaker 4>think I'm trying to remember if he had some stuff

798
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.559
<v Speaker 4>when Carrie was running about, because he did.

799
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 8>I think he died before McCain, I don't know, so

800
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.519
<v Speaker 8>that would put him out of it with Carrie.

801
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 4>Anyway, he was constantly in Washington protesting, and he had

802
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 4>a couple of organizations that were basically fighting the government saying, hey,

803
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, we've got these numbers, we've got you know,

804
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:48.119
<v Speaker 4>legitimate statements from people who have seen.

805
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 8>People over there. Why are we not doing anything about it?

806
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.119
<v Speaker 8>And then it was very vocal.

807
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, when we put Vietnam on favored trade status,

808
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 4>that was something that he was really upset about, you

809
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 4>know the fact that we're now trading with them and

810
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 4>treating them like our allies, and yet we still had

811
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:08.119
<v Speaker 4>people over there.

812
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.599
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and you know, it is a gang of

813
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:13.119
<v Speaker 2>those guys. As I remember, there was a group of

814
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.519
<v Speaker 2>them right that were really super vocal and we're pissed

815
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.960
<v Speaker 2>about all that kind of stuff, and rightfully so. And

816
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 2>literally that led to this sort of I want to

817
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 2>call it the rehabilitation of the Vietnam history that people

818
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 2>went through and the sentimentality the Vietnam guilt syndrome then

819
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 2>went out in this country for a bit, and then

820
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it disappeared down the memory hole like everything else. And

821
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.440
<v Speaker 2>it's sad to me that it did, because you know what, Okay,

822
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 2>so the guy who was left behind five years ago

823
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. Now, when did he stop mattering?

824
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 13>You know?

825
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't answer, I know.

826
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm wondering at what point what company was involved that

827
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.960
<v Speaker 4>allowed us to start the rehab of what went on

828
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.960
<v Speaker 4>over there, and the fact that we put a communist

829
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 4>country on favored nation status so that we could do

830
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:09.239
<v Speaker 4>trade with them.

831
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 6>Who wanted to move a factory over there. I don't

832
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:13.400
<v Speaker 6>think it was Nike.

833
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:14.400
<v Speaker 8>It had to be somebody.

834
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, sure, I'm sure of it. But then again,

835
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to unravel because people stop paying attention. Like

836
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 2>I said, the Chuck No Harris movies, I don't know

837
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:28.119
<v Speaker 2>if you remember those, but the Missing An Action deal

838
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:32.199
<v Speaker 2>and even the Rambo phenomenon was all about turning those

839
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 2>guys into heroes, which bothered the hell out of me,

840
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.119
<v Speaker 2>because not only were people forgotten on the battlefield, but

841
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>people return here broken. And you and I've been over this.

842
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 2>We all know my personal You know, if you know

843
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.960
<v Speaker 2>this show, you know already what I'm gonna say. But

844
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 2>you know we've had nothing but what more suicides now

845
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 2>hat of guys who have served? Oh yeah, because I'm sorry,

846
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<v Speaker 2>you know, And I say this, and I'm talking on

847
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:04.320
<v Speaker 2>with the colos here we're served. I'm not saying you

848
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 2>served during your time. I'm just saying you served. And

849
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you that I will never ever forgive the

850
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:16.800
<v Speaker 2>idea that you send people in the harms way, regardless

851
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:21.159
<v Speaker 2>of what the core the cause is, the political calculus is,

852
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the enemy supposedly is. I don't care. Okay, there's another

853
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:32.840
<v Speaker 2>problem here, And the other problem is you don't just

854
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 2>leave your people behind. You just don't. And it doesn't

855
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 2>matter if they're an MIA or they're broken and they're

856
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 2>back home to deal with the fact that you broke them.

857
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:48.800
<v Speaker 2>You as in the government, you as in the system,

858
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:55.679
<v Speaker 2>you as in the greeting motherfuckers, you broke them. You

859
00:45:56.079 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 2>are responsible. We the rest of us have to live

860
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:06.400
<v Speaker 2>with it. So, yeah, I got a problem there. And no,

861
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 2>it didn't start with Vietnam. It just so happens. That's

862
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:10.400
<v Speaker 2>my window into it.

863
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:15.079
<v Speaker 4>And she would think with what went on in Vietnam,

864
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.360
<v Speaker 4>somebody would have learned a damn lesson when it came

865
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:21.000
<v Speaker 4>to Afghanistan. We've got a whole generation there that was

866
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:26.400
<v Speaker 4>a twenty year occupation for what. You know, The thing

867
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 4>that gets me now is when I see, you know,

868
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.760
<v Speaker 4>somebody put on Facebook or X that you know, we

869
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 4>spent twenty years, We lost thousands of people, yep, more

870
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 4>than that, injured and back home and broken, just to

871
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 4>replace the Taliban with the Taliban.

872
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exact job, guys, exactly. But here's here's the reason why.

873
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to give you the most basic analogy

874
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I can give you. If you live in a neighborhood

875
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:58.960
<v Speaker 2>where a store is constantly getting shoplifted out of and

876
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.000
<v Speaker 2>people go through it the way to prison it and

877
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 2>shove look it all the time, I'm going to tell

878
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 2>you why. It's because a lot of people have gotten

879
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:11.880
<v Speaker 2>away with it. So if you continuously allow somebody to

880
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>steal from you, whether it is a pack of cookies

881
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 2>or some electronics, or it's somebody you care about freaking soul,

882
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.639
<v Speaker 2>you allow people to steal it and you'll do nothing

883
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:31.760
<v Speaker 2>in response, You're going to encourage more thieves. You're going

884
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:35.320
<v Speaker 2>to encourage not only more thieves, but at the very

885
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:40.239
<v Speaker 2>least more theft Get it. I don't mean to say

886
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:43.039
<v Speaker 2>that to UVPT. I hope you get that. I don't

887
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 2>know what I gotta tell you a lot of people don't.

888
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 8>We've had this discussion before, you know. It's you've got

889
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.239
<v Speaker 8>so many people out there. It's like this towed stuff.

890
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.760
<v Speaker 4>They go through, they find all this money and they

891
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.039
<v Speaker 4>cut all these programs and they kill I mean, hell,

892
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 4>look at the Department of Education and gut it, you know,

893
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 4>but we still I've yet.

894
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.119
<v Speaker 8>Did I see anything in the big beautiful.

895
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 6>Bill concerning additional funding for veterans?

896
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 8>I don't think I did. Now I may be wrong there.

897
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:13.320
<v Speaker 8>I've not read the thing, and there may be something

898
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 8>tucked in there that I don't know about.

899
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 4>But why in the hell are we not providing the

900
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 4>money for the services to go out there and take

901
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 4>care of the people that we basically, you know, when

902
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 4>they signed up and we were in the middle of something, Hey,

903
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:26.840
<v Speaker 4>thank you for your service.

904
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.159
<v Speaker 6>Hey we're proud of your service. Boom boom boom, and

905
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 6>now nothing.

906
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.840
<v Speaker 4>And what really gets me is the way the public

907
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.840
<v Speaker 4>is not holding Washington accountable for not taking care of

908
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:39.599
<v Speaker 4>all these people that we've sent over there.

909
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because nobody does.

910
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.280
<v Speaker 8>And you know what, well, we have the attention span

911
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 8>of a gnat.

912
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:47.079
<v Speaker 5>You know it's on the back.

913
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Burner now, but it's not the attention span. I'm telling

914
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.920
<v Speaker 2>you that really go back to my analogy here. You

915
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 2>can get something out of stealing, and nobody bust you.

916
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 2>What reason you have not to continue to steal? H

917
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm just asking a practical question here. If I can

918
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 2>walk into a place and I can steal my breakfast

919
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.000
<v Speaker 2>every single day, and nobody does the damn thing about it,

920
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 2>why shouldn't I just go there and steal my breakfast

921
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:18.320
<v Speaker 2>every day. I'm just asking a logical question here, and

922
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 2>now you know the why nobody does anything about it.

923
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.960
<v Speaker 2>That's why it will keep happening. Anyway. Let's let some

924
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 2>chaos rain and bring them all on. I say, what

925
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:32.840
<v Speaker 2>do you think?

926
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Sure, go for it.

927
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:41.519
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna go to open participants are unmuted. There

928
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 2>we go. Now let me kill off off. Hang on,

929
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 2>hang on, I gotta kill off.

930
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:49.760
<v Speaker 7>My sorry, sorry.

931
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 3>You unleased.

932
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I have unleashed everyone, so you are all live and we.

933
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:03.679
<v Speaker 7>Be the war mom drewing neo con drive with bread

934
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.639
<v Speaker 7>on his hands to his very last day. But don't worry.

935
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 7>We've got Lindsey Graham now, so can continueing on the

936
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 7>march and continue on the.

937
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 5>Home.

938
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 7>So uh stump, I've done talking about the scrum bags.

939
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.480
<v Speaker 7>I will know you guys. I'll try to talk about

940
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:23.039
<v Speaker 7>something fun.

941
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:26.360
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, I got I got something for you. Let

942
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 8>me let me, let me try to take the lead here,

943
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 8>if it's okay, that's.

944
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:31.599
<v Speaker 2>For a moment, all right.

945
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know we've all been uh uh given this

946
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:40.000
<v Speaker 3>narrative that you know, like there are times the charm.

947
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 9>You know, third time, ThReD times the charm doesn't apply

948
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 9>when you tell your wife that you know she needs shi.

949
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:55.400
<v Speaker 3>A few pounds. Now, it gets you in the dog house.

950
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean I've done that myself, and that's currently where

951
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting. You know, I got all right, I'm out

952
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:03.400
<v Speaker 3>here doing vehicle maintenance.

953
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:05.400
<v Speaker 7>You know where timon is it?

954
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:05.880
<v Speaker 3>This? Man?

955
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I I totally understand what you're saying. Anybody else who

956
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.079
<v Speaker 2>wants to jump in here, you go right ahead. But

957
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you third time is a charm

958
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 2>that's only ever worked for me in one way, and

959
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.119
<v Speaker 2>that is that you know, because I had to make

960
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 2>two terrible mistakes to stop making mistakes when it came

961
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:30.920
<v Speaker 2>to marrying women. But outside of that, you know, third

962
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 2>time is usually just because you screwed up so bad

963
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:36.039
<v Speaker 2>the first two times. You gotta win the third time.

964
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 3>For God's sake, generally speak.

965
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but but outside of that, yeah, there.

966
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 14>You go, truck truck can put my vote in. Uh,

967
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 14>I tell you, sir, is this Chris Gras? Yeah, yes, yes,

968
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:57.719
<v Speaker 14>that's hey.

969
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 3>What's up dude? There?

970
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 2>How you go.

971
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:02.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

972
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:02.719
<v Speaker 5>Good to.

973
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 3>Podcast.

974
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:07.360
<v Speaker 15>I'm not gonna take over this.

975
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.280
<v Speaker 3>I just want to say mine love all the research

976
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 3>that you do. Big Finn Man. Uh, well, I appreciate it.

977
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm cool to talk to you.

978
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 5>It really is.

979
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:19.840
<v Speaker 11>Well that's awesome. I really appreciate it. You have no

980
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 11>idea seriously, Uh that really makes me feel feel good

981
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:24.679
<v Speaker 11>right now.

982
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.679
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to see me check. We should keep the.

983
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:35.599
<v Speaker 11>Discussion going. I don't know as long as you can. Uh,

984
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.400
<v Speaker 11>when you bring up mission missing in action, you know

985
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:44.440
<v Speaker 11>with Ignors and Rambow two, with Sir Roster Storm, like

986
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:48.519
<v Speaker 11>the plot points like were uh they were trying to

987
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 11>rescue people that were listening in the action, and.

988
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 3>I feel like.

989
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 11>Hollywood, I don't know like what Hollywood's will in the

990
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:03.159
<v Speaker 11>Hall of Fame really was, but they kind of like.

991
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I hear an echo, so.

992
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a little bleedback. I'm trying to figure out where

993
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:13.880
<v Speaker 2>it's coming from. But go ahead, No, just like I.

994
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 13>Don't know if it's propaganda or not, because we really

995
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 13>did have people that were missing in action and prisoners

996
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:25.639
<v Speaker 13>of war and she kind of got glossed over like

997
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:27.639
<v Speaker 13>for decades, and.

998
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 11>I don't know, like then you, I don't know, do

999
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:38.960
<v Speaker 11>we have the same kind of situation with Iraq in Afghillistan,

1000
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:46.000
<v Speaker 11>like with the serviceman that went over there, Like I like,

1001
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:49.599
<v Speaker 11>tonight's the first time I've ever really thought about like whether.

1002
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:50.679
<v Speaker 3>Or not, like the same.

1003
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 11>Aperiosities from Vietnam were carried over to two thousand and one,

1004
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.639
<v Speaker 11>because I know, I know at least a dozen people

1005
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 11>that ended up didn't care because they enlisted because of

1006
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:07.800
<v Speaker 11>Ctember eleventh.

1007
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they don't care about you.

1008
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 7>They don't care about their soldiers. They care about their

1009
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 7>their agendas. The politicians don't care. They you know, I don't,

1010
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 7>I don't.

1011
00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:19.440
<v Speaker 5>I got VP.

1012
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.880
<v Speaker 7>I hope they gave something this big beautiful bill for

1013
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 7>the veterans. But you know what, I already got it.

1014
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 7>I think we went to a big beautiful tax break.

1015
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:31.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, listen, you're righting, Uh, you're right, you're right.

1016
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:32.079
<v Speaker 3>But here's here's the.

1017
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Bad part is they figured out it's a big propaganda play.

1018
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.400
<v Speaker 2>And what they figured out is the American public, No,

1019
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.159
<v Speaker 2>London needs to be satisfied or made them feel better

1020
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>like they did with Vietnam, because they're completely ignoring the

1021
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:48.199
<v Speaker 2>fact that we have you know, uh, dozens of guys

1022
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.159
<v Speaker 2>committing suicide on a daily basis in this country.

1023
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, if a proper amount of money was being spent

1024
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:58.480
<v Speaker 7>to veters that deserve it, that they and the care

1025
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:03.239
<v Speaker 7>that they need, wouldn't have any these these guys out

1026
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:05.159
<v Speaker 7>there doing the Moody Warrior projects.

1027
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 5>You wouldn't have to We shouldn't have.

1028
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.719
<v Speaker 7>To have anything like that. That's the point.

1029
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.119
<v Speaker 2>No, And they really thought right there, and really what

1030
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:16.079
<v Speaker 2>they did is they figured out a way to reduce

1031
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the body count so the initial shock wasn't as bad.

1032
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And then they figured out, nobody's gonna have any guilt

1033
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:24.079
<v Speaker 2>if it's not in the headlines to shut it down,

1034
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 2>and therefore nobody thinks about the guys who went to

1035
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Afghanistan in Iraq anymore. Oh that's over with, not for them.

1036
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 2>So again I got a big little finger to stick

1037
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.360
<v Speaker 2>up at this whole thing about you know, think you

1038
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 2>for your service. Yeah, you're you're, you know good, thank you,

1039
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 2>mister Robot. Anyway, I'm gonna.

1040
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I still think about them work.

1041
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 2>No, you do, but there are very few of us

1042
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:54.679
<v Speaker 2>that do. And that's the ugly truth. Look, I'm gonna

1043
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 2>put you on old Chris because obviously they got to

1044
00:55:56.599 --> 00:56:00.079
<v Speaker 2>control some people's lines because of the feedback. Uh, and

1045
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting them everybody back on that I can, but

1046
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I put you on hold for a second, Chris. And

1047
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm also going to put Smien Kent on a hold

1048
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 2>briefly just to keep the echo down. But I'm going

1049
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 2>to try and bounce around so that everybody can speak.

1050
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Just pay attention to him to become unmuted. Sorry, guys,

1051
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:18.239
<v Speaker 2>late Chuck, I'm back.

1052
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:21.840
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, there's a lot of too far, too late, but

1053
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.480
<v Speaker 12>just say, you know, we have short term memories. Now.

1054
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:30.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to endorse Joe Biden's foreign policy.

1055
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.599
<v Speaker 12>The domestic policy he passed the path back which was

1056
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:36.960
<v Speaker 12>probably should have been been bigger, but.

1057
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 5>It was one of the biggest.

1058
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.559
<v Speaker 12>Legislations that put it to law to actually help veterans,

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00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 12>especially from Asian Orange, from Vietnam to the burn pits

1060
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 12>in the in the Middle Eastern Wars.

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00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.480
<v Speaker 5>And and yeah, we have we have a basically I

1062
00:56:55.519 --> 00:57:00.599
<v Speaker 5>think last time statistically seventeen Soldiers Committee susid the basis

1063
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:01.480
<v Speaker 5>you don't care about it.

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00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:05.239
<v Speaker 12>But then also do they cut thea staff And we

1065
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.280
<v Speaker 12>don't know what kind of effect that's going to happen.

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00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.199
<v Speaker 5>If you're not keeping statistics, it's going to get put

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00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 5>down the memory hole.

1068
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Now a lot of people don't remember this, but back

1069
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:17.880
<v Speaker 2>when I had mister Hicks on this program, who was

1070
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:21.079
<v Speaker 2>a soldier who served and was trying to sound the

1071
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:26.840
<v Speaker 2>alarm about the burn pits, the government was denying it. Still. Yeah,

1072
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen and fifteen and I had Hicks on here.

1073
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:34.639
<v Speaker 2>They banned him from the PX bookstores. They tried to

1074
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.079
<v Speaker 2>they pushed him out and tried to take away his

1075
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:41.000
<v Speaker 2>retirement and everything else, simply because he complained about the

1076
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:42.039
<v Speaker 2>damn burn pits.

1077
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:48.360
<v Speaker 12>Well, I have we befriended a fellow marine and served

1078
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 12>three he signed up nine to eleven, served three tours

1079
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:57.039
<v Speaker 12>Marine Battle of Faloosa, and he ended up wutting became

1080
00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:00.440
<v Speaker 12>Pavilion to start going to school. He got to get

1081
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.920
<v Speaker 12>this nursing license up to a LBN, but they wouldn't

1082
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:05.480
<v Speaker 12>pay for him to be an r N, and I

1083
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:07.960
<v Speaker 12>think it was disgusting. We didn't pay for him to

1084
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:11.000
<v Speaker 12>become an RN. But he's been in the medical field,

1085
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:13.880
<v Speaker 12>and now he's been not only does he served PSD,

1086
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:19.559
<v Speaker 12>but he's also suffered serious immune issues. And I asked him, Hey,

1087
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.800
<v Speaker 12>were you around burn fits pits? He said all the time.

1088
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1089
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Now the VIA is taking care of them, but they

1090
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 5>should have they should have done that.

1091
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:32.599
<v Speaker 12>This was you know, they're just poisoning our soldiers and

1092
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:35.599
<v Speaker 12>you know what, you're also poisoning the community that were

1093
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:35.920
<v Speaker 12>doing it.

1094
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:40.559
<v Speaker 5>The innocent iraqis you know, is you know we're all people.

1095
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but those pits. I want people to recognize that

1096
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:48.079
<v Speaker 2>those pits were lit in two thousand and three the

1097
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:52.760
<v Speaker 2>first time, and you know there were chemical weapons over there,

1098
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.320
<v Speaker 2>but we found amut Yet, well, where do you think

1099
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:58.920
<v Speaker 2>they disposed of the chemical weapons? Exposed stuff in the

1100
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:02.800
<v Speaker 2>damn burn pits? Number one? Number two they were bringing

1101
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of crap in there and denying it for

1102
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:09.719
<v Speaker 2>a decade. So how many guys do you think died

1103
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.280
<v Speaker 2>in between during that decade from stuff that they didn't

1104
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:19.559
<v Speaker 2>even understand they had. Okay, so again again, my point is,

1105
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:26.480
<v Speaker 2>whether it's suicide or it's lung disease or whatever, understand this.

1106
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 2>You're expendable. You're expendable, and you're super expendable because you

1107
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:36.920
<v Speaker 2>volunteered to be expendable. Yeah, and that is my complaint.

1108
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Is no bad reflection on any veteran. I'm just trying

1109
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.599
<v Speaker 2>to tell you that that's what makes me most sick.

1110
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't want this done in my name. Didn't you

1111
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.519
<v Speaker 2>hang on a second? I want to let other people

1112
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:52.360
<v Speaker 2>are on. But like I said, there were echo issues.

1113
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to put it back on and see

1114
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:59.000
<v Speaker 2>who echoes. And I'm sorry, I'm neu who echoes? But

1115
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Danny's let's see if that part of it could anybody

1116
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:09.119
<v Speaker 2>can jump in guys.

1117
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:14.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, it.

1118
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:17.960
<v Speaker 3>My own.

1119
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're you're on you to go.

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01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, No, I appreciate that.

1121
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I just I don't know, like because I don't

1122
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:29.000
<v Speaker 2>think the same kind of records.

1123
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:34.920
<v Speaker 11>Will be kept like for people like I was twenty

1124
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.719
<v Speaker 11>years old in two thousand and three, so like I said,

1125
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:41.840
<v Speaker 11>like I didn't have the balls, Like I'm sorry to

1126
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:45.039
<v Speaker 11>be crossed, but I didn't have the balls to go

1127
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:49.480
<v Speaker 11>into the day. You know, the military around that time,

1128
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.760
<v Speaker 11>and I know quite a few people that passed away

1129
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:57.199
<v Speaker 11>or you know, they were considered miss missing the action.

1130
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.320
<v Speaker 11>I just don't know, like when it comes to write

1131
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:04.960
<v Speaker 11>the correlation between the Vietnam War and Iraq and Afgharic

1132
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.159
<v Speaker 11>and I just don't know. So I don't mean to

1133
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:10.039
<v Speaker 11>be callous when I bring it up, but.

1134
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:13.400
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, Like.

1135
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:17.159
<v Speaker 3>It's it's kind of hard to.

1136
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:24.239
<v Speaker 11>Take the Pentagon seriously when you're talking about this serviceman,

1137
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:28.480
<v Speaker 11>and especially when you hear about the reports with good

1138
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:36.000
<v Speaker 11>chain and like putting restrictions on photographs on caskets.

1139
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Coming back home and things like that.

1140
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, look, I'm going to put a couple other

1141
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:44.800
<v Speaker 2>people on the load. And why because we got Jimmy James,

1142
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:47.159
<v Speaker 2>I think, on the line. And I want to give

1143
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 2>everybody an individual clear opportunity to say a final word

1144
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 2>for the week, because you know, we're into the ten

1145
01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:57.800
<v Speaker 2>thirty time year. And yeah, I'm going to get off

1146
01:01:57.800 --> 01:01:59.559
<v Speaker 2>because it's been a long week, even though I haven't

1147
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:07.679
<v Speaker 2>done a lot of broadcast. So Jimmy, you hear me, yep,

1148
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:10.360
<v Speaker 2>absolutely go ahead.

1149
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm come up a lot.

1150
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.159
<v Speaker 15>So I sent you a clip keep playing.

1151
01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh No, I'm not going to play a clip right

1152
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:26.400
<v Speaker 2>now because we're going to get out of here, but

1153
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll save it for the next time for sure, because

1154
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:31.639
<v Speaker 2>it's always going to be all around me.

1155
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:34.360
<v Speaker 15>It's not even a minute along.

1156
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want to play unreviewed clips on here

1157
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:42.320
<v Speaker 2>right now, right now, so I have to review stuff

1158
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and I can't. I have no time to do it,

1159
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:45.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'm unless. I was getting ready to sign off,

1160
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:47.440
<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to put you on to speak if

1161
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:48.400
<v Speaker 2>you want to speak.

1162
01:02:54.639 --> 01:03:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Speak the clip. All right, Well, all right, man, you know, sorry.

1163
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:05.199
<v Speaker 2>About that, but it just so happens you came in

1164
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 2>when we're on the late end of when we're gonna

1165
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.880
<v Speaker 2>sign off here. But I appreciate you, and I will

1166
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:12.360
<v Speaker 2>save that clip for next time and I'll review it.

1167
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I can't do copywritten stuff right now, so if there's

1168
01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:18.559
<v Speaker 2>any copywritten music or anything in it, I gotta watch it.

1169
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.559
<v Speaker 2>If it's gonna be for podcast purposes, because otherwise I

1170
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:26.320
<v Speaker 2>got to disqualify the podcast for distribution, which is a

1171
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:31.079
<v Speaker 2>pain in the ass. And also I'm being more careful

1172
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.320
<v Speaker 2>since I got kicked off with yet another platform and

1173
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:38.159
<v Speaker 2>got you know, deactivated on PayPal. But hang on, I'll

1174
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:40.199
<v Speaker 2>give you another chance. At the very end, I'll let

1175
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:42.519
<v Speaker 2>you out the last word for this show, Jimmy James,

1176
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 2>hang on there. Okay. Anyway, let's go back around, and

1177
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna go around to the order that you

1178
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 2>guys are laid out on the app, which is weird

1179
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:55.440
<v Speaker 2>because I can't even remember who called in first. I

1180
01:03:55.480 --> 01:04:00.159
<v Speaker 2>don't feel that well. But anyway, so no disrespect to

1181
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:02.119
<v Speaker 2>anybody's order of calling in. I'm going to get around

1182
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to everybody right now and let you throw in your

1183
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.320
<v Speaker 2>final thought for the week. Please, and also be pete

1184
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:09.239
<v Speaker 2>if you want to prepare an idea in your mind,

1185
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:12.239
<v Speaker 2>something you want to say, I'll get to you right

1186
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:17.280
<v Speaker 2>before Jimmy James. Okay, so good to you. All right,

1187
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:19.440
<v Speaker 2>thank you guys, And I'm not even going to give

1188
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 2>you a final word for this week. Just everybody else's

1189
01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 2>whatever they say, it's theirs, Okay, So I guess that's Chris.

1190
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:35.000
<v Speaker 11>First, Hey, Jimmy James, You're a great guy, and thank

1191
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.400
<v Speaker 11>you for all your help. And that's all I got

1192
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 11>to say. Thank you, and thanks Chuck and be.

1193
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Pete, thank you, thank you.

1194
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Chris. Look, if I was not in the position I'm

1195
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 2>in currently, i'd also try and help you out as well.

1196
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.719
<v Speaker 2>But somebody clicked my PayPal, so that was, you know,

1197
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:57.159
<v Speaker 2>my main source of income, and I'm dealing with that.

1198
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:00.280
<v Speaker 3>And I do.

1199
01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, guess we got Danny from California next up, and yeah, yeah,

1200
01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:08.639
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts man.

1201
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, thank you for having me. My thoughts is, I've

1202
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:14.880
<v Speaker 12>been a little busy, but I want to reconnect. You

1203
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.639
<v Speaker 12>have a you said there's a missus o's PayPal, because

1204
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:22.400
<v Speaker 12>I'm sure my PayPal's not gone through because of this.

1205
01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:23.239
<v Speaker 3>You sure have it.

1206
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:25.880
<v Speaker 5>But I've been busy. But this weekend I'll get on.

1207
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.079
<v Speaker 12>And get rehooked up seconds start contributing again. And I

1208
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:35.039
<v Speaker 12>encourage everybody else to contribute to Chuck. He's put out

1209
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:37.199
<v Speaker 12>some good work over the years, and I appreciate that

1210
01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:39.559
<v Speaker 12>you let me come on and see.

1211
01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 5>What I what I have to say.

1212
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate Danny, and if you do that, that's great. Yeah,

1213
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately I've had to put hers in there and a

1214
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:50.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't trust it. But and you don't

1215
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:52.840
<v Speaker 2>have to talk about the show as you find a word.

1216
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:55.360
<v Speaker 2>This is not rehearsed, this is not anything I asked

1217
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:58.639
<v Speaker 2>anybody to do. But I really truly appreciate it. And

1218
01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I know you're sincere Nanny, so thank you and thank

1219
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.400
<v Speaker 2>you you know. And also you're one of the few

1220
01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:10.320
<v Speaker 2>people I like to talk to you on Facebook occasionally.

1221
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.880
<v Speaker 3>For me, Thank you.

1222
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.880
<v Speaker 12>I appreciate I have to watch it because I get

1223
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:20.800
<v Speaker 12>generally nobody agrees with me when I put out like

1224
01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:23.679
<v Speaker 12>my my real thoughts, but I like to share with

1225
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:25.800
<v Speaker 12>the family stuff, you know, the good stuff.

1226
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, but you're nine you, but you're not

1227
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.800
<v Speaker 2>nasty or wude to other people or me. Look, and

1228
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:34.039
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing I like. No matter what it is

1229
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about and putting out, you always took me

1230
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:37.760
<v Speaker 2>about it.

1231
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:41.280
<v Speaker 12>I really appreciate that I had actually had and it

1232
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 12>really made me feel good. I had a few people

1233
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 12>reach out to me, and they're they're on a far

1234
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.719
<v Speaker 12>different political perspective. I consider myself on the Christian left,

1235
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 12>and they have says I may not agree with politically

1236
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:57.519
<v Speaker 12>with you, but I appreciate that you actually will engage

1237
01:06:57.559 --> 01:06:58.119
<v Speaker 12>in a a.

1238
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:01.960
<v Speaker 5>Very respectful dialogue.

1239
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:06.079
<v Speaker 12>And that's all I'm really looking for because look, most

1240
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:08.840
<v Speaker 12>of my friends and most of my loved ones, they're conservative.

1241
01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:12.679
<v Speaker 12>I was raised in a very environment. I'm just more

1242
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:18.679
<v Speaker 12>independent and I come from a real honest place, and

1243
01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:22.000
<v Speaker 12>I just I really care for the betterment of people overall.

1244
01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:24.760
<v Speaker 12>I'm a bleeding heart, Like I said, I'm a god

1245
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:29.800
<v Speaker 12>very bleeding heart, lovable lefty, and I don't care who

1246
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:33.440
<v Speaker 12>you are or you know, I just want you better.

1247
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:36.880
<v Speaker 5>And I've been blessed with my life, so i just

1248
01:07:37.519 --> 01:07:38.119
<v Speaker 5>want to share it.

1249
01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:38.519
<v Speaker 13>Thank you.

1250
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:40.199
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate those kind words.

1251
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:43.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah and really yeah, sorry, d I mean I thought

1252
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:47.000
<v Speaker 2>you were done there, But look, respectful dialogue is a

1253
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:49.239
<v Speaker 2>perfect phrase for what it is you do on there.

1254
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:53.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know, being a guy who does believe in

1255
01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:58.320
<v Speaker 2>individual rights, does believe that guns are good tools, does

1256
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:01.880
<v Speaker 2>believe a bunch of things. People going, we're contradicting yourself,

1257
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Well not. These are actually my beliefs, not a formula

1258
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:11.079
<v Speaker 2>somebody else gating, just real simple. Maybe I'm wrong, but

1259
01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:12.000
<v Speaker 2>it's mine.

1260
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:13.639
<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

1261
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:20.279
<v Speaker 2>The other Chris On the line in Florida, though your thoughts.

1262
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:24.920
<v Speaker 3>All right? Two quick points all right.

1263
01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:30.920
<v Speaker 9>One to mister Chris Graves, if you ever really needs

1264
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.600
<v Speaker 9>to help needs helping, and the property that I've got,

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<v Speaker 9>I have three mobile home or three Arvy pads with

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01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:42.720
<v Speaker 9>electric subject water, all that hooked up, I'd be.

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01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:44.159
<v Speaker 3>Glad to help him out if I can't.

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<v Speaker 9>Two, if you were to start up an adventure with

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01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:54.199
<v Speaker 9>a podcast, I would consider.

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01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I would like to tell you that consider a like

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01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:07.199
<v Speaker 3>commedic news in a comedic news probably a podcast. Uh.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't even throw my head right now. I'm an

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01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:14.159
<v Speaker 9>amateur and this stuff. But yeah, I've got a different

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01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:14.680
<v Speaker 9>point of view.

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01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:20.359
<v Speaker 2>I agree. I agree with you know what. Between you

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01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.439
<v Speaker 2>and Jimmy James, believe it or not, you guys got

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01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:23.039
<v Speaker 2>good ideas.

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01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:25.279
<v Speaker 3>I I like it.

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01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to do a comedic news thing. I would

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01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:29.880
<v Speaker 2>love to do that, but I don't know. I don't

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01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:31.800
<v Speaker 2>think I'm that funny. I mean, you know, outside of

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01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:33.199
<v Speaker 2>my house, you're.

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01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:34.319
<v Speaker 3>More funny than anything. Chuck.

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01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:36.000
<v Speaker 9>I'm not trying to catch you off, but I mean

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01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:38.239
<v Speaker 9>you got to be able to laugh at this ship,

1286
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:40.479
<v Speaker 9>because you know.

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01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:43.560
<v Speaker 2>What, the world's the stage, right Well, anybody can laugh

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01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:46.199
<v Speaker 2>at it, right, but to get other people to laugh

1289
01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:49.399
<v Speaker 2>is a gift that I just don't feel like as

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01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:53.560
<v Speaker 2>though I have. I wish I did, but maybe maybe

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01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:55.279
<v Speaker 2>if some of you guys help me with it, we

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01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:55.760
<v Speaker 2>can do it.

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01:09:57.199 --> 01:09:59.600
<v Speaker 6>I think you've got more potential than what you realize.

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01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm all forward if you want to, if you

1295
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:04.640
<v Speaker 2>want to pitch in to help, just get it rolling,

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01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:07.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know con you know, contribute content wise. I

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01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:10.399
<v Speaker 2>would love to do that. I'm sorry I'm stepping all

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01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:14.439
<v Speaker 2>over your final thoughts, but but you're good. I'm coold with.

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01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:19.159
<v Speaker 3>This discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool cool. I appreciate you man, and look, and I

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01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:26.760
<v Speaker 2>thank you for sticking by me once again. I apologize

1302
01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:28.439
<v Speaker 2>for getting the wed with you in the chat room.

1303
01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:30.880
<v Speaker 2>But you said a couple of things that sounded like

1304
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.720
<v Speaker 2>the jack stick that gave me a problem, and I

1305
01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:38.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh you're back, uh, and and I I am.

1306
01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't share what damage I do to that guy.

1307
01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:48.079
<v Speaker 2>So for a moment, you look like familiar to that guy.

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01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:52.800
<v Speaker 2>So that's my mistake again. Uh, you and I are

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01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:58.439
<v Speaker 2>probably more alike among my listeners. You and I are

1310
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:03.840
<v Speaker 2>probably more alike than uh anybody hearing this would realize. Uh,

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01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:07.079
<v Speaker 2>so my sincere apology for getting mad with you for

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01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:15.600
<v Speaker 2>a second even as well, Listen, I know how to

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01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:20.760
<v Speaker 2>be a professional asshole. I got you. Uh just just

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01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:22.800
<v Speaker 2>ask you just well you can. You can't ask my

1315
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 2>ex wives because they're both dead anyways. Uh you know

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01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:30.680
<v Speaker 2>all about the fun there, but.

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01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Uh, for I haven't come in.

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01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm living it right. Look you got and you got

1319
01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:38.760
<v Speaker 2>to laugh at all of it. And believe me, the

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01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:41.039
<v Speaker 2>second that I that I know I'm gonna die, the

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01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:44.560
<v Speaker 2>first thing I'm going to do is laugh my ass off. Anyway,

1322
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:49.039
<v Speaker 2>when when the universe decides to be merciful, I might

1323
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.880
<v Speaker 2>let everybody lose for a final Norman of chaos. But

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01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 2>we do have two other people to get to Sped

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01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Kent and Jimmy James, and also b Pete is going

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01:11:57.159 --> 01:11:59.520
<v Speaker 2>to go in before Jimmy James, but hopefully Jimmy's loading

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01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:02.359
<v Speaker 2>up with something good towards the end here. Uh Smith,

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01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Kat you we're back to live your thoughts.

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01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:07.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to say thanks Charlie. To callers that can't

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01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:12.760
<v Speaker 7>call it, you guys are awesome. You rock and uh

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01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:15.520
<v Speaker 7>scared to talk to you guys and hear from you guys.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh right now, Man, I was hoping this is like

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01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 7>the third time now that I've got a you know,

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01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:25.840
<v Speaker 7>I took a Friday off and there's no an uncle

1336
01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:29.119
<v Speaker 7>and and I like I caught up with him finally.

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01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:31.119
<v Speaker 7>What was it like two weeks ago, Chuck, I was

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01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:33.640
<v Speaker 7>off and I was able to call in and get

1339
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:36.479
<v Speaker 7>hold of now and like last week, I missed it.

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01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:39.199
<v Speaker 7>Like I said before, I was listening to the Uncle

1341
01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:42.880
<v Speaker 7>Show on the rerun before you went live here tonight,

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01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:45.640
<v Speaker 7>and you know, because here's the guys talking about I

1343
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:48.840
<v Speaker 7>started talking about all Cochin and he's going the Uncle

1344
01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:51.720
<v Speaker 7>is letting the you know, the BA caller to call

1345
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:53.840
<v Speaker 7>in and all that, and I can hear like, oh, man,

1346
01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:55.680
<v Speaker 7>I know I wanted to and I was working. I

1347
01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:57.279
<v Speaker 7>was thinking about it when I was working, like, man,

1348
01:12:57.319 --> 01:12:59.920
<v Speaker 7>I know they want to talk wrestling to Hulk just die.

1349
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:04.079
<v Speaker 7>So anyways, I didn't hear it, but you know I

1350
01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:06.960
<v Speaker 7>showed up tonight and now there you know, there's no

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01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:09.600
<v Speaker 7>uncle on Aaron. But I gotta give Aaron and Uncle

1352
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:13.840
<v Speaker 7>up warning warning next time I take you guys better

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01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:21.000
<v Speaker 7>be around, all right, that be in. I'll just say, Chuck,

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01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna send you an email, but if you want,

1355
01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:26.600
<v Speaker 7>I can hang out a little bit, you know, after

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01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:32.119
<v Speaker 7>the show and talk instead of type a couple of

1357
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:35.800
<v Speaker 7>questions and stuff, so be easier and typing it all

1358
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:37.560
<v Speaker 7>out on email if you want to hang out for

1359
01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:41.199
<v Speaker 7>a couple minutes. But that's up to you, but it

1360
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:42.800
<v Speaker 7>would help because I hate typing.

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01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:45.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's let's just let's just give it a

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01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.000
<v Speaker 2>couple of minutes and we'll we'll see if I can

1363
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:50.800
<v Speaker 2>get if I can close out the show within a

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01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:53.680
<v Speaker 2>reasonable amount of time, I'll do that well. To be honest,

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01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm suffering.

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01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:56.960
<v Speaker 7>From just gonna say it was good to talk to

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01:13:57.039 --> 01:13:59.119
<v Speaker 7>everybody and be peating. And I'm not going to keep

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01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:02.479
<v Speaker 7>us any longer, but I'll move it a while. But

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01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.039
<v Speaker 7>I just want to say, love everybody, Love your neighbor.

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01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:07.840
<v Speaker 7>There at Divide and Talkers, they're alders trick in the book,

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01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:09.760
<v Speaker 7>and that's how they're getting away with everything, all the

1372
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:11.960
<v Speaker 7>big you know, these powers that be are doing it

1373
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:15.359
<v Speaker 7>right here. They got everybody divided, So just come together,

1374
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:18.319
<v Speaker 7>everybody to show the well, you know, watch bears, watch

1375
01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:21.600
<v Speaker 7>live can Bears on YouTube. It's awesome. It's like medicine.

1376
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:24.520
<v Speaker 7>I can't explore dot org the best thing you can

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01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:27.000
<v Speaker 7>do and love everybody, and I'll be.

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01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Around, so excellent drank and spank can't and yea stick

1379
01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:33.239
<v Speaker 2>around for a couple of minutes. We're going to get

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01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:35.199
<v Speaker 2>to Jimmy James right after we go to BP. But

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01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:37.399
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'm just kind of warm down because

1382
01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I was doing a lot of work behind the scenes

1383
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:42.560
<v Speaker 2>this week and anyway, hear a lot of broadcasts. But

1384
01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I had to do this show and glad I did,

1385
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.680
<v Speaker 2>because just a small group of guys can create an

1386
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:51.319
<v Speaker 2>interesting dynamic and something that is good not only for

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01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:54.800
<v Speaker 2>them to speak to, but for others to hear. And

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01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:58.479
<v Speaker 2>that's my organizing principle here for this show. I want

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01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:01.039
<v Speaker 2>to give everybody a platform. Yeah yes, but I also

1390
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:04.119
<v Speaker 2>want to give them the ability to hear something different

1391
01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:07.960
<v Speaker 2>here so we can keep doing that. I'm happy to

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01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:09.880
<v Speaker 2>do it as long as I can afford to keep

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01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:14.960
<v Speaker 2>it rowing very simple. Repeat. Before we go to Jimmy James,

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01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you your shot because I did

1395
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 2>tell him they'd give him the final word, so I'm

1396
01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:21.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna you know, I always try to follow through them

1397
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:23.640
<v Speaker 2>what I say I'm going to do well.

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<v Speaker 4>I just appreciate everybody calling in this week, and yeah,

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01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:29.479
<v Speaker 4>we had a pretty good show, and.

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01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:32.520
<v Speaker 2>We'll go ahead and move on to Jimmy right, And

1401
01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.439
<v Speaker 2>we didn't even get to naked news, but hang on

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01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:35.760
<v Speaker 2>to that.

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01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:36.479
<v Speaker 3>We can say that.

1404
01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:39.119
<v Speaker 2>I think it'll keep over the week, you know, like

1405
01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:41.239
<v Speaker 2>in the fridge, like certain kinds of foods, you can

1406
01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:43.119
<v Speaker 2>leave it in here till next week. Yeah, I think

1407
01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:46.119
<v Speaker 2>we can do that with that one. But yeah, so

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01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give the final day though.

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01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh all, while we were while we were discussing this,

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01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:53.520
<v Speaker 4>I did look. The New York Times ran a story

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01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:58.600
<v Speaker 4>in two thousand and one. Apparently we have no MIAs

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01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:02.760
<v Speaker 4>and no pow is from the Afghan Iraq conflict.

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<v Speaker 8>In fact, this was the first time that they didn't.

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01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:09.079
<v Speaker 4>Have anybody to put in the tomb of the unknown

1415
01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:11.840
<v Speaker 4>soldier because they were able to identify everybody.

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01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:14.079
<v Speaker 8>Based on these newer DNA techniques that they've done.

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01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Don't think that's true, me, Pete.

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01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:22.119
<v Speaker 6>I'm just telling you what the New York Times reported.

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01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:25.439
<v Speaker 2>I won't fair enough, but I'm asking you in the

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01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:30.399
<v Speaker 2>real world, don't believe that didn't buy that story. That's

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01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:31.039
<v Speaker 2>what I'm asking.

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01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:33.680
<v Speaker 8>No, I think it's highly plausible.

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01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:35.800
<v Speaker 4>We had people over there that nobody knew was over there,

1424
01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:37.159
<v Speaker 4>and therefore they turned off missing.

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01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:38.199
<v Speaker 8>Nobody knows where they were.

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01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:43.600
<v Speaker 2>M I don't almost find it impossible that the military

1427
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:48.439
<v Speaker 2>lost nobody, but because they lost people in every single

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01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:51.000
<v Speaker 2>effort they ever made, even when it wasn't a lot,

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01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:52.159
<v Speaker 2>they always lost somebody.

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01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:54.680
<v Speaker 5>I said that bo Bergdal was.

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01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:57.159
<v Speaker 4>The last one that was captive that they got back,

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01:16:57.279 --> 01:16:59.439
<v Speaker 4>and that's the one that you know, we traded a

1433
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:05.760
<v Speaker 4>bunch of money based on their their statistics that the

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01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:08.159
<v Speaker 4>New York Times looked into it. I wouldn't think that

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01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:10.720
<v Speaker 4>unless you know, Hey, the story came out when Biden

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01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:11.000
<v Speaker 4>was in.

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01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:11.680
<v Speaker 3>So who knows.

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01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't care who was in. I caught bullshit.

1439
01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:21.439
<v Speaker 2>But that's me, you know, again, the conspiracy theorist, the dummy,

1440
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:25.359
<v Speaker 2>the liberal right. If you want to hate me, oh oh,

1441
01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:27.479
<v Speaker 2>you can also hate me as a right wing lunatic

1442
01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:31.359
<v Speaker 2>who's an anti vaxer scumbag too, But you know that's okay.

1443
01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:36.720
<v Speaker 2>You don't know where I'm coming from, apparently speaking to

1444
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:39.840
<v Speaker 2>all those hate mails and stuff. You know, still, one

1445
01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:41.319
<v Speaker 2>of these days I think I should make a book

1446
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.119
<v Speaker 2>out of them. Really. But anyhow, let me give Jimmy

1447
01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:45.840
<v Speaker 2>James the final word. I told you I wasn't going

1448
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:47.840
<v Speaker 2>to talk, but I got to fill the gaps here.

1449
01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.199
<v Speaker 2>And thank you VP for doing this with me. Thank

1450
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:52.600
<v Speaker 2>you to all the callers, and especially thank you to

1451
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy James, who you know, again, we would have lost

1452
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:58.079
<v Speaker 2>some facility here to even do this show and had

1453
01:17:58.119 --> 01:17:59.920
<v Speaker 2>he not chipped in at the right time to help,

1454
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:06.920
<v Speaker 2>let's keep going, just saying, but yeah, Jimmy, you won't

1455
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:08.760
<v Speaker 2>find a word for the week. I'm sure you got

1456
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:10.840
<v Speaker 2>something now, maybe loaded up. It's on you.

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01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:16.000
<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 15>I just wanted to make a shout out to American Eagles.

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01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:25.600
<v Speaker 15>She could finally putting an attractive woman in the jeans

1460
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:29.600
<v Speaker 15>ad nice after about seven years of.

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01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:40.680
<v Speaker 16>Vomiting after looking at what they call models in Sydney's

1462
01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:45.760
<v Speaker 16>Swinging Chick. Yeah, that's definitely move in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that.

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01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:53.359
<v Speaker 15>I'm sure she kind of that kind of down syndrome

1465
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:56.359
<v Speaker 15>look thing going on, but hey, at least she's got

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01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.439
<v Speaker 15>two big hooters, all right, the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect. And I got to tell you, if you won't

1468
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:07.960
<v Speaker 2>respect that, maybe you're listening to the Long Show, I'm

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01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:08.359
<v Speaker 2>nearly O

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<v Speaker 3>And