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Speaker 4: No, you said you were going to quiz me on
Speaker 4: the Danville story. But other than that, we got naked News.
Speaker 4: We hold that to the last if you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hang on to naked News and the Danville story.
Speaker 2: But tell me about what the public face of the
Speaker 2: Danville story is according to what it is you decided
Speaker 2: to grab off the internet because I gave there's no
Speaker 2: rehearsal of this, folks. So I want to see what
Speaker 2: happens compared to the knowledge I gained by digging into
Speaker 2: this off the record and outside of just reading articles.
Speaker 2: I want to see what happens here and I want
Speaker 2: to show you guys something, So tell me what it
Speaker 2: is you know about the story, BPTE, go ahead.
Speaker 4: The two people involved counselman Lee Vulgar Volgler, councilman in
Speaker 4: Danville City and the person that burst into his office
Speaker 4: with gasoline. His name is Michael buck Hayes. That's a
Speaker 4: hyphenated last name, Schatzi Michael Buckeys. Anyway, hey, Buckeyes decided
Speaker 4: to force his way into Vogler's office of his job
Speaker 4: where he works for a local magazine, Dust Roman. Gasoline
Speaker 4: guy runs out of office. This guy follows him and
Speaker 4: sets him on fire, and according to the story from
Speaker 4: the I think this is the Danville newspaper, it says
Speaker 4: that buck Hays admitted that he wanted the flames to
Speaker 4: kill him, so he wanted to.
Speaker 3: Kill the guy.
Speaker 4: They got him charged with the attempted first degree murder
Speaker 4: and some other charge of malicious wounding or something. Anyway,
Speaker 4: is anyone to kill the guy? Everything that they have
Speaker 4: in here. Apparently this guy was going through a divorce.
Speaker 4: He had been separated from his wife since September thirtieth,
Speaker 4: and in Virginia you only have to be separated six
Speaker 4: months and you can file for a divorce.
Speaker 5: Here it's a year.
Speaker 4: So his wife filed here just a few days ago,
Speaker 4: I think on July fourteenth, the divorce was granted. This
Speaker 4: guy then goes into this other guy's office, sets him
Speaker 4: on fire, and they say that the reasons were personal.
Speaker 4: The first thing comes to my mind is Vogler is
Speaker 4: somehow connected to this guy's ex life.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's interesting, and it leaves out a
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff. And I'll tell you what the reporter
Speaker 2: is basing everything on in that story. What they got
Speaker 2: from the law enforcement, from the cops. Basically, whether it's
Speaker 2: a sheriff's department or it is the state, or it
Speaker 2: is the local PD. That is from the cops. That's
Speaker 2: all that reporter did. I don't care what their bent is,
Speaker 2: I don't care what their political leanings are. That's all
Speaker 2: that reporter did is went to the cops and said
Speaker 2: what happened? They told him, the reporter printed it. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's all they did. Meanwhile, my dumb ass actually gets
Speaker 2: in touch with people that know what's going on here.
Speaker 2: It was known for a long time that this guy was, say,
Speaker 2: having an affair with his other guy's wife hypothetically, and
Speaker 2: you know they actually used that against this politician who
Speaker 2: still needed a day job because you know, the town
Speaker 2: council thing was not that good. They used it against
Speaker 2: that guy to hold him back from you know, upscaling,
Speaker 2: upgrading his political office. Okay, but nobody gave a crap
Speaker 2: what happened to the husband who got left in the
Speaker 2: wake of that, hypothetically, and this guy freaked out. He's
Speaker 2: been freaked out. He's been saying crazy things. And you
Speaker 2: know what, if anybody does properly, they find out that
Speaker 2: law enforcement ignored it. And this guy wound up walking
Speaker 2: into that place with a gallon of gas lead or
Speaker 2: a couple gallons of gas. The leader lit this dude up,
Speaker 2: and that's the bottom line of the story. Of course,
Speaker 2: he meant to kill him. That guy is enraged he
Speaker 2: got used in this situation, not only by his you
Speaker 2: know now ex wife. And by the way, New Jersey,
Speaker 2: it's eighteen months of separation before he can file for
Speaker 2: any sort of no fault divorce. And that's the thing
Speaker 2: is that there's a minimum and then there's other extenuating circumstances,
Speaker 2: like in some places they'll only make you wait three
Speaker 2: weeks if you had like serious domestic violence things like that,
Speaker 2: Like I said in New Jersey, if you want to
Speaker 2: just say, look, no want no foul. We just both
Speaker 2: want a divorce. Eighteen months six months is impressive where
Speaker 2: you are, that's neat or where he is six months
Speaker 2: you said a year where you are, sorry the other
Speaker 2: way around. I like that, but eighteen months in Jersey
Speaker 2: and you can't cohabitate during that time otherwise it resets
Speaker 2: the clock, which is hilarious too anyhow, And they take
Speaker 2: the word of it that two people opposing each other
Speaker 2: in court, if you both agree, then that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Just let you know, and nobody tries to you know,
Speaker 2: like provide us with proof anyway. Yeah, that's the inside
Speaker 2: dope on that. And Mike Swanson wants nothing to do
Speaker 2: with commenting on it publicly, but he knew wheen of
Speaker 2: the individuals involved, so he wants absolutely zero to do
Speaker 2: with it commenting in public at all.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And he is not my source for the information I
Speaker 2: just gave you, though he didn't argue with me either,
Speaker 2: So okay, so.
Speaker 6: Show a non confirmation confirmation.
Speaker 2: Well for Mike, who is somebody I actually trust to know? Well, right,
Speaker 2: But I get other work digging on this that again.
Speaker 2: So this is the difference between me and just you know,
Speaker 2: because these idiots are saying all it does do is
Speaker 2: read new stories? You do anything? Yeah, I do, but
Speaker 2: you guys don't care and you don't value it, most
Speaker 2: of you. So I'm just pointing something out to you.
Speaker 2: That's all I want that known that if I cover
Speaker 2: a new story and it just you do you just
Speaker 2: read the Woods and Unique and then you discided you're
Speaker 2: neuron if you think so. Because I do a lot
Speaker 2: of work before I even bring up a story on
Speaker 2: this show. Usually unless somebody springs things on me. Hey
Speaker 2: look at this, and you've you ever noticed, I go, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say until I dig into it.
Speaker 2: I'm always in that default position because I take a
Speaker 2: lot of time to go over things and to provide
Speaker 2: you with something. Again, Unique call up and take the
Speaker 2: cops word for everything. Either I will get that information
Speaker 2: from their you know, public relations officer. They have other
Speaker 2: phrases for this, like it's you know, public public relations,
Speaker 2: public liaison, press liaison officer. Lots of different phrases for
Speaker 2: this all across the country, but there's generally a guy
Speaker 2: there to answer questions from the public or from the
Speaker 2: press in most law enforcement office agencies with any sort
Speaker 2: of decent size to them. But you know the best
Speaker 2: of the best, and the people that you're willing to
Speaker 2: donate to and the people whose words you're willing to take.
Speaker 2: So they just read off other people's crap, which came
Speaker 2: off of usually just the cops story in the circumstance.
Speaker 2: And if you think the cops tell you the whole story, listen,
Speaker 2: I wish I was you, because ignorance is apparently bliss. Anyway,
Speaker 2: enough out of me, Let's go back around to the
Speaker 2: call and maybe we'll even do a round table before
Speaker 2: we're all done. Oh, we got a new caller, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to get to you shortly. My friend, I
Speaker 2: don't recognize you. I'm definitely bringing you on soon. But
Speaker 2: first let's go back around to spend Kent because he's
Speaker 2: been waiting a while. And then we also have let's see,
Speaker 2: we have Chris and Florida, and we still have Danny
Speaker 2: in California. But I'm going to mix in the new
Speaker 2: caller somewhere before we get all the way through the
Speaker 2: original three. But first, Smog Kent, what's happening, man?
Speaker 7: I wanted to. I wanted to make a comment about
Speaker 7: the Florida weather with the other Florida guy here I
Speaker 7: forgot his name. But before I get there, Chuck, I
Speaker 7: want to do something. Help out I do. I do
Speaker 7: not know how to do any online stuff. Like the
Speaker 7: only thing I do is computer, YouTube and gaming, So
Speaker 7: I don't I don't even know what these peas. I've
Speaker 7: heard of them, but I don't know what they are.
Speaker 7: These things you send them the mail, the needs pay
Speaker 7: is it the cards or something. I don't know anything
Speaker 7: about any of this stuff.
Speaker 2: So well, how do you how do you pay for
Speaker 2: anything digitally? Because I've been forced to sign up for
Speaker 2: every damn thing in the world.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I tell you why, we get a chance
Speaker 7: of talk and get tutor.
Speaker 2: Me on that a little bit, okay, but we'll go
Speaker 2: figure it out. Man. Look, it's not like I can't
Speaker 2: use it, and it's not like I'm ignoring you. It's
Speaker 2: just that I've gotten tied up with other crap lately.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about.
Speaker 7: I mean, I still want to cast something, but I'll
Speaker 7: give you an email. But I mean, you know what
Speaker 7: they you know expect with me on the co host thing.
Speaker 7: So whatever, you know. So anyways, I just wonder to
Speaker 7: kind of yeah, I hear you, I hear what's going on.
Speaker 7: I just I mean, like, for me, I don't have
Speaker 7: a checkbook anymore. Maybe easier just don't write it. Go
Speaker 7: get a checkbook, write a check, and then send it
Speaker 7: in the mail literally, because I'm just so bad at
Speaker 7: I don't really know how to do any of these
Speaker 7: other things. And so I'm very again. I'm late to
Speaker 7: the party all the time on technology, and I've kind
Speaker 7: of been pretty good at staying off the good the
Speaker 7: last ten years. But now my job and other reason
Speaker 7: forcing me into twenty twenty five. You know, I was
Speaker 7: kind of cold just sitting back at nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 7: I should like being twenty five again. But now I'm
Speaker 7: about to turn fifty five on Tuesday. Say here we are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I hear you.
Speaker 2: I you know. I was thinking a lot about my
Speaker 2: eighteenth birthday recently. And my eighteenth birthday was in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety so yours was what in nineteen eighty seven, maybe
Speaker 2: eighty eight?
Speaker 7: So I was able to vote vote for Bush senior?
Speaker 7: Can you believe it? But maybe at the time, I
Speaker 7: guess you could.
Speaker 2: I could believe that. But here's the funny part. Right
Speaker 2: in ninety two when I got to vote, I voted
Speaker 2: for Clinton. But you know, but some people will go
Speaker 2: close and do the liberal.
Speaker 3: And he was just on the row.
Speaker 2: That's not why I wanted. I kind of wanted to
Speaker 2: go through the world. But here was the calculus, He's
Speaker 2: not going to win. Yeah, so I voted he.
Speaker 7: Can't close or whatever the lot of change their rules
Speaker 7: because they were like improvement with the debates.
Speaker 3: And different things.
Speaker 7: Yeah what what you know, Winter was always bitching about
Speaker 7: well and people.
Speaker 2: Forgot people forget this nowadays. But but Perou literally bought
Speaker 2: CNA time. And I'll tell you why. He would have
Speaker 2: had my vote if I thought he had even an
Speaker 2: ice cube chance in hell to make it, you know,
Speaker 2: and he didn't. I knew he didn't. But this is
Speaker 2: a guy who actively got pissed when they didn't want
Speaker 2: to back him for pulling out, you know, left behind
Speaker 2: prisoners of war in Vietnam. A lot of people don't
Speaker 2: know that about Ross Paroul. He did what Now, okay,
Speaker 2: you know how we had a lot of missing in
Speaker 2: action people in Vietnam, Prisoners of year that were legendarily
Speaker 2: still there after the conflict ended. Well, Duou was somebody
Speaker 2: who put money into trying to get those people back home.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've always forgetting him back home. I never heard
Speaker 7: that he wasn't. But if he wasn't, he was wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're miss hearing me. Parole tried to put his
Speaker 2: money into bring those guys home Paro.
Speaker 7: Oh oh he did so, I've actually said the.
Speaker 2: Other guy winning in a parole perot. That's why he
Speaker 2: would have had my vote if I thought he had
Speaker 2: an ice cube's chance in hell of making it. I mean,
Speaker 2: if Dodger had a slim chance of making it, I
Speaker 2: would have voted parole. But people hearing you voted Clinton
Speaker 2: a coruse because you were liberally he Trump. These two
Speaker 2: things do matter. Creat Clinton was the cooler choice between
Speaker 2: Bush and himself for an eighteen year old who didn't
Speaker 2: know much.
Speaker 4: Sorry he remember he financed a rescue of a couple
Speaker 4: of EDS employees in seventy nine out of Iran.
Speaker 2: You're talking about parole again, right, Yeah, yeah, he financed
Speaker 2: all that. Yeah, because human.
Speaker 3: Beings, you right for.
Speaker 7: Pepete, or didn't you go from senior.
Speaker 4: The same thing I went to opposite the truck I
Speaker 4: voted because I knew he wasn't gonna win, but he
Speaker 4: cost He cost the election one for him.
Speaker 8: I don't think Clinton would have won.
Speaker 2: Maybe not, but anyway, maybe not.
Speaker 7: Yeah, how many Yeah, I've heard that before too.
Speaker 5: I mean it was claude what I wrote.
Speaker 7: It was, I only voted because, like I thought that
Speaker 7: I didn't know that back then anyway, So I kind
Speaker 7: of voted because I first thought he was the stand
Speaker 7: up dude. I didn't really think about any of that
Speaker 7: other stuff. But then I didn't vote again til two
Speaker 7: thousand and four, and that was Bruce Junior. The second time,
Speaker 7: Bruce Junior because of the nine to eleven and everything,
Speaker 7: I was really drung hold, you know at the time Republican,
Speaker 7: Sean Hannity guy and so I but in two thousand
Speaker 7: and eight didn't vote. Twenty twelve, the last time I
Speaker 7: did vote, I voted for Gary Johnson. I know he's
Speaker 7: a joke too, but I said, at least thing't say
Speaker 7: I wrote for a libertarian at that time. And then
Speaker 7: from there I just you know, seen the.
Speaker 2: Rights that But in that ninety two election, In that
Speaker 2: ninety two election, side note every other switch I flipped.
Speaker 2: I think was Republican, and I mean from sheriff to
Speaker 2: everything else in the voting booth, everything else was Republican.
Speaker 2: It was just Clinton just to me, seemed to be
Speaker 2: the better choice between the two people. That's what I
Speaker 2: evaluated at eighteen. Sorry, but that's what I thought, and
Speaker 2: everything else went Republican to me.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: But again, you live and you learn a lot.
Speaker 7: But in the yeah, you learn a lot, just over
Speaker 7: even every year you learn something. I guess, yes, sir,
Speaker 7: but I don't want to lease why. I didn't want
Speaker 7: to say something about Florida.
Speaker 5: So before I get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please do it, because I want to move on
Speaker 2: again and try and move through everybody quickly. So go ahead,
Speaker 2: I shut up now.
Speaker 7: I don't remember the guy's name, but he says from Ocala, Califoria.
Speaker 2: You know that's Chris.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, he's pretty close to me. He's
Speaker 7: out in the sticks there, he's I'm uh yeah, I'm
Speaker 7: over here at the beach. I'm I'm right here at
Speaker 7: New Simona Beach, right on the New Simerona and uh
Speaker 7: so he's in land, but he's there's big camping out
Speaker 7: there and lots of parks and springs and a big
Speaker 7: forest out there. I've been up through there, but I've
Speaker 7: never camped or anything over there. But it's it's really
Speaker 7: cool out in the sticks.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what put him on? Was you
Speaker 2: real quick? Before we get to the new callers, Chris,
Speaker 2: Apparently you guys are neighbors. Maybe you guys could hang
Speaker 2: out in the same woods, because I think you both
Speaker 2: like some woods.
Speaker 3: I am. I was pulling out sticker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: Hey, what's up? How you doing?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 7: Chris? I don't know that in Paradise, as.
Speaker 2: I say, but you guys might be sort of closest
Speaker 2: to together in Florida. You might be in similar locations.
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm putting both time together so you
Speaker 2: can both talk to each other.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're out there in the sticks a bit. Hey.
Speaker 5: Have you ever been to hat Bill Park?
Speaker 7: It's south uh it memes.
Speaker 2: I have not.
Speaker 7: I've heard of it.
Speaker 3: I have not been there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: A good thing about hat Bill Unlike you know everywhere else,
Speaker 7: including where you're at, it's free. It's free camping. But
Speaker 7: apparently you're only supposed to get Fridays or Saturday. Fridays
Speaker 7: and Saturdays. But people you know, it's a boat dock
Speaker 7: and people are out there with their airboats and it's
Speaker 7: like it's a good party spot. But sometimes you know,
Speaker 7: it's it's you're right along the Saint John's River and
Speaker 7: you know there's gators around. It's a really cool place.
Speaker 7: I kayak there once, but there's just two. I'm not
Speaker 7: worried about gators. I'm worried about them freaking airboats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the gators. Yeah, I went on that's that's seen.
Speaker 9: The gator probably about three three and a half feet
Speaker 9: across from you know, one of the one of the roadways.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, while yeah, we're we're in.
Speaker 3: The middle of the swamp. And then yeah, three and
Speaker 3: a half.
Speaker 7: That's a that's the when you grow up gravige tail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 7: I've been I've been down in Florida for about twenty years.
Speaker 7: I lived in Lakeland for the first ten. I've been
Speaker 7: down here, you know, Edgewater for the last ten. So
Speaker 7: it's nice here. It's I like Edgewater Way during Lakeland.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm originally you know, I.
Speaker 10: When I was moved in Florida, you know, by my parents,
Speaker 10: I was you know, moved down to Sarasota, but you know, voluntarily,
Speaker 10: I moved up here in Okalla, had an opportunity.
Speaker 5: To my house, you know, the de piece of property.
Speaker 3: Uh said, cool, that's a.
Speaker 9: I mean the only thing I can actually claim about
Speaker 9: is just the overgrowth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, over development.
Speaker 5: I mean there's too many people talking here, too many.
Speaker 9: Department complex is coming up, housing developments.
Speaker 5: You know, it's that we've been flooded by the.
Speaker 3: I know, I said. You know, I've always said Florida is.
Speaker 5: Like a picture.
Speaker 3: You know that you know, that's that's still from the
Speaker 3: bottom up.
Speaker 7: You know, they want to be you know, they want
Speaker 7: to be putting new houses and everything and all this
Speaker 7: you know progress or whatever, like into the Saint John's
Speaker 7: River and everything else is like nah, man were houses here.
Speaker 9: They're just throwing everything in there, every piece of every
Speaker 9: piece of.
Speaker 3: You know, wet lands, wild lands.
Speaker 7: I'm in there. Look at what they're doing here where
Speaker 7: I'm at. You know, you know, a mosquito, the Union
Speaker 7: and uh, the Indian River right here. You know there
Speaker 7: there's they are all kinds of problems because of development,
Speaker 7: you know, and the vanitese or something you know, evolved
Speaker 7: and and then the grass has been gone and the
Speaker 7: Water's muky here now this is where I kayak, you know,
Speaker 7: and uh, but it's it's just too much development.
Speaker 3: They got a chill a man, but there's no sign
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 7: They're gonna take Martin, take Audi man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: So there you go, Florida stories from two Florida guys,
Speaker 2: and don't worry. I'll get back to both of you
Speaker 2: as soon as I can. But I want to get
Speaker 2: the new caller in before I go back around to Danny,
Speaker 2: who I imagine will be a little more patient to
Speaker 2: wait just a minute and uh, let's see uh eight
Speaker 2: one seven year own.
Speaker 11: Oh yes, Well, I just wanted to say that, you know,
Speaker 11: Alex Winter that have played Ted and from the Billa
Speaker 11: and Ted movies. G made a documentary on soilk Road.
Speaker 11: I know silk Old was brought up about an hour ago.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to.
Speaker 11: Throw that out there and it's pretty good, pretty good documentary.
Speaker 11: But also I just wanted to go everyone's appearing on
Speaker 11: in terms of the po ws and John mckayin anyone
Speaker 11: remember that there was a controversy with John McKain with
Speaker 11: bringing back POWs, which is kind of ironic giving his
Speaker 11: black story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's very interesting. I wonder if b
Speaker 2: Pete wants to comment on that, especially because you know
Speaker 2: a little bit about the John McCain backstory in the controversy,
Speaker 2: don't you be Pete.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's always been on my dirt cloud list, the dirt.
Speaker 2: Cloud list for new listeners if there are any is
Speaker 2: people that really deserve to be you know, hit in
Speaker 2: the head with a dirt clod somewhere in public at
Speaker 2: some point, and would be more than happy to do that.
Speaker 2: And John McCain's on your dirt cloud list.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh, he's been there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, John McCain.
Speaker 4: And as soon as he got elected office, he pretty
Speaker 4: much started pushing POWs to them as to the side,
Speaker 4: and he really didn't do anything the whole time he was.
Speaker 2: In Man, much like most of America, except they felt
Speaker 2: good when they watched the Chuck Norris movie.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but what'll take me off was the fact that,
Speaker 4: you know, he used his war injurjuries and the fact
Speaker 4: that he was a prisoner of war and there's some
Speaker 4: very questionable things about what he gave up as a
Speaker 4: prisoner of war, wrecked a couple of airplanes, you know,
Speaker 4: but his dad was an admiral, so you know, what
Speaker 4: are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Interesting? And admiral who does come up in some interesting
Speaker 2: historical events if one does study McCain's dad. There, you know,
Speaker 2: just saying and with a smirk. But because I'm not
Speaker 2: even gonna bother to tell you about it, how about
Speaker 2: that's it would.
Speaker 4: Be the ultimate definition of what people call a rhino
Speaker 4: Republican and name only.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that definition is altered itself in the past
Speaker 2: few years, hasn't it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The reason why the soilk Road thing came up, though,
Speaker 2: is because Trump pardoned the guy. And that's interesting, isn't it,
Speaker 2: especially along with if you want to, you know, just
Speaker 2: do a little cross section of the other drug kingpins
Speaker 2: that you know, and you can count that guy as
Speaker 2: a drug kingpin that Trump has pardoned quietly and nobody
Speaker 2: even bothers to mention. It's pretty funny. I mean, you know, yeah, Biden,
Speaker 2: this whole family and weird people that he decided to pardon. Sure,
Speaker 2: but it's almost funny when you take a look at
Speaker 2: somebody's pardon lists and how nobody pays attention to why
Speaker 2: in the hell would this president even care about this
Speaker 2: list of people? And it ain't always the autopen either, baby. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's payback. Use your head, okay, anyway, Sorry, anything else
Speaker 2: you want to add to this, because by all means,
Speaker 2: I appreciate that that little comment you brought up. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to No, I just want to make sure it
Speaker 2: wasn't just me, No, not at all.
Speaker 11: But I also I also saw I saw in the
Speaker 11: news something that happened in Cincinnati where a couple of
Speaker 11: people got stomped during like a parade or a music festival.
Speaker 3: Does anyone know anything about that?
Speaker 5: Or am I late to the party with it?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, between the New York shooting and the
Speaker 2: guy who got lit on fire who happens to be
Speaker 2: Mike Swanson's neighbor, I've been a little distracted. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you heard that story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, fair enough.
Speaker 2: You know, like I dug into those things, so I'm
Speaker 2: not aware of the Cincinnati story. But if you have
Speaker 2: a link and you're in the chat room, please put
Speaker 2: it there because I'd love to look at it anyway,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 11: No, that's all I just wanted to add. I want
Speaker 11: to make sure that I wasn't off pace. With the
Speaker 11: silk quoting or John McCain not to this smirch anybody,
Speaker 11: but you know, I'm McCain and I always so I
Speaker 11: was full full of it.
Speaker 2: Yes, And there's a couple of good documentaries on that
Speaker 2: Silk Road deal. And I think I watched the one
Speaker 2: that you're talking about, but that's not the one that's
Speaker 2: in three parts though. That's the one that's one solid piece, right, Okay, okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 11: Alex Winter he was indeed, yeah, he makes documentary films.
Speaker 3: It was pretty good.
Speaker 2: It was actually good. It was really well, like actually
Speaker 2: so well done. I was kind of like, whoa that one?
Speaker 2: You know, it was pretty good. It was about as
Speaker 2: good as that slew of again, the opioid crisis documentaries
Speaker 2: that came and went a couple.
Speaker 3: Of years ago. It was Dope Sick, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like Dope Sick, and a few other ones where you know,
Speaker 2: they had the drama one with Michael Keaton in it,
Speaker 2: and they had Dope Sick. And there was another one
Speaker 2: on that HBO did that was freaking amazing and it
Speaker 2: was like, damn, they're actually telling the truth in the
Speaker 2: documentary that open Media Pete for why uh oh? The
Speaker 2: Sackler family is on the ship list.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, and they got they got a sweetheart deal, yeah,
Speaker 11: which is disgusting.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's all I won.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what the funny part about the
Speaker 2: Sacklers is the most ironic and just tells you how
Speaker 2: the system really works, is they're selling opiates to pay
Speaker 2: off their opioid fines. So yeah, you know, just saying,
Speaker 2: just saying, and you know you can thank them always
Speaker 2: for oxy cotton mor hill Billy heroin as they used
Speaker 2: to call it. Just just saying. Anyway, hang on a second,
Speaker 2: Let's get the Danny if you If you hang on,
Speaker 2: we'll get back to you again. But I want to
Speaker 2: get back around to Danny real quick before we go
Speaker 2: any further, and anybody else who wants to join us,
Speaker 2: I will add you in as we go and get
Speaker 2: back around to everybody who's on the line before we're done,
Speaker 2: for sure. Three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six is the number to call. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: like I held you back a minute, but I saw
Speaker 2: another call of colors. Yeah, go ahead, it.
Speaker 12: Was yeah, yeah, Crime of the Century that HBO documentary
Speaker 12: on the opioid and the sacklers.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. That was the name of the
Speaker 2: crime of the century. Thank you, Danny. I appreciate that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 5: No worry as an excellent documentary.
Speaker 12: And a little story under the fly, under the radar you.
Speaker 12: On Friday, every first of the month, the Bureau of
Speaker 12: Labor Statistics comes out the report. Report came out five
Speaker 12: hours later, I believe a couple hours later, Chump fired
Speaker 12: the head of the Bureau Labor Statistics.
Speaker 5: One of the reasons.
Speaker 7: Is because of if you know how the sord.
Speaker 12: Labor works with economists, which is real boin stuff, but
Speaker 12: very important and pertinent, is that they also have to
Speaker 12: adjust because sometimes their statistics are there's a one, two
Speaker 12: and three month lag and they started adjusting, so the
Speaker 12: numbers one was rosy. So whoever replaced, who just wants
Speaker 12: to tell the emperor has no clothes, it's not going
Speaker 12: to be beneficial for all Americans, whether you're conservative.
Speaker 5: Liberal, or none of the above.
Speaker 12: Is it's really important to kind of know what direction
Speaker 12: economy's going and what's being affected.
Speaker 5: So that point there.
Speaker 12: As far as MIAs, when I enlisted, I heard from
Speaker 12: bets from Vietnam, and they had all kinds of different
Speaker 12: stories about people were left behind. Some were deliberate, some
Speaker 12: were just they just were missing, probably killed the naturally.
Speaker 12: But those are just a lot of things once we
Speaker 12: kind of pulled out that were unanswered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because people who think that Afghanistan was the first
Speaker 2: bad disaster in you know, pulling out of a country.
Speaker 2: Obviously you're not familiar with the Vietnam War because not
Speaker 2: only was the entry into that war pull but there
Speaker 2: was a lot of crap that went on through ineptitude,
Speaker 2: people not listening to Westmoreland early on like they should have, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, and a bunch of other things, but also
Speaker 2: us getting involved in that whole excursion due to the
Speaker 2: false flag app operation to begin with, Oops, I'm a
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist. No, go check with the military dot gov's
Speaker 2: official history of the Vietnam War, and if you can
Speaker 2: read what you're looking at, maybe a bullet hole ended
Speaker 2: up in a boat. Maybe, And that's what started the
Speaker 2: the need to introduce our active troops into Vietnam, you know,
Speaker 2: right ran the Johnson administration.
Speaker 12: So the Pentagonue papers, uh to two really great books
Speaker 12: on the Afghanistan would be one that was I think
Speaker 12: Steve Cloes Ghost Wars that talked about, you know, kind
Speaker 12: of the CIA and starting with the Zepperninsky, Jimmy Carter
Speaker 12: and Ronald Reagan. And then another one is the you know,
Speaker 12: follow up would be the Afghans papers.
Speaker 5: And then you were probably really understand why the pullout
Speaker 5: happened the way it is.
Speaker 12: But I'm going to be a little you know, contraryan
Speaker 12: on it is that I'm glad we pulled out. You know,
Speaker 12: we should have never been there in the first place,
Speaker 12: and it was never going to go.
Speaker 2: Well in both places, whether Afghanistan or Vietnam, you know,
Speaker 2: the two longest excursions into far wars in this nation's history,
Speaker 2: you know, officially anyway, and yes, Vietnam is a much
Speaker 2: longer conflict than any history book shows you because of Lite. Frankly,
Speaker 2: we started screwing around with trying to help out the
Speaker 2: French and you can look at the disaster at a
Speaker 2: place called the Nbian Foo I think it's pronounced, and
Speaker 2: I probably just butchered it.
Speaker 5: But you know, you got pretty close. That happened in
Speaker 5: the mid fifties.
Speaker 2: Correct when we were involved from then and covertly at
Speaker 2: the time with the overt involvement in the introduction of
Speaker 2: just ground pounding. Guys starts after Kennedy dies. Very simple.
Speaker 5: But you know the other thing with Vietnam, it really started.
Speaker 12: When they when the end of the coming up on
Speaker 12: the on the two bombings, I think the eightieth Anniversity
Speaker 12: of Hiroshima and Nakasaki. But really started once the Japanese
Speaker 12: kind of pulled out of there of that part of
Speaker 12: Southeast Asia. Because Ho Chi Minh was looking, he was
Speaker 12: quoting you know Jefferson, you know, Thomas Jefferson. He was
Speaker 12: really hoping for the United States was going to kind
Speaker 12: of like support Vietnam uh as an ally like it
Speaker 12: was basically he was, you know, a resistance right, and
Speaker 12: we just kind of bought into the French, you know,
Speaker 12: keeping our colonial holds and then the Cold War. But
Speaker 12: you know, there is a lot of mistakes that we
Speaker 12: did in foreign policy. Might have written a lot of
Speaker 12: a lot of pain and suffering.
Speaker 2: Well, Ho Chi min would have been more happy to
Speaker 2: be allied with the United States than he was with
Speaker 2: the Communists. But history doesn't remember it that way too easily,
Speaker 2: does it. Uh, it was he would have.
Speaker 12: He would have we could have made an ally and
Speaker 12: even if he would have, you know, lean to more
Speaker 12: of a Marxi state. I mean, look there there's still
Speaker 12: kind of marks that we do business with them. You know,
Speaker 12: they they looked at the Chinese, it's the natural enemy
Speaker 12: as a born invader, just like they saw the French.
Speaker 5: Right, and just as this all the Americans they were patriots, right.
Speaker 2: But until we invaded, they would have welcomed us as
Speaker 2: partners and allies. And that's the thing that we supported
Speaker 2: the Catholic based regime in the in the South right.
Speaker 2: So there there was the massive mistake. And that's the
Speaker 2: funny thing as you look at things today and as
Speaker 2: far as Afghanistan goes, it's a different circumstance. It's not
Speaker 2: about colonialism. It's about where empires go to die, because
Speaker 2: nobody convade Afghanistan. And you know, the Soviet Union could
Speaker 2: have to hold you that. Oh wait they did. Okay,
Speaker 2: it doesn't work. Don't do it. It's just foolish use
Speaker 2: other means. But again, people don't want to learn from
Speaker 2: history because they don't want to learn history because every
Speaker 2: history book, not one of them, says it's real history. Huh.
Speaker 5: Anyway, yeah, you're well, the victors, the victors right, the right, the.
Speaker 12: Standard history books. I mean, the real patriots will kind
Speaker 12: of dig deeper in it. So another thing too is
Speaker 12: I just listened while I was working last night you're
Speaker 12: yours in Pierce Redman's you know, our hour and fifteen
Speaker 12: minute discussion. I sure enjoy with you and Piers to
Speaker 12: get together. You're really really are really hiptop chemistry and
Speaker 12: just kind of talking about the and he knows a
Speaker 12: lot about the Epstein, which I found it.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It was a good episode.
Speaker 3: Just kudos, listen.
Speaker 2: I thank you for that. But I really want Peers
Speaker 2: to come back again, especially now because we were a
Speaker 2: little bit ahead of the headlines there with that. But
Speaker 2: I think you could add much much more information to
Speaker 2: the sphere there, because it's really interesting how that evolved.
Speaker 2: Nobody gave a crap, then conspiracy theorists cared for a minute,
Speaker 2: and then that evolved into the right wingers grabbing it,
Speaker 2: and now it's a whole mess where you've got Trump
Speaker 2: saying the Democrats made up a whole bunch of stuff,
Speaker 2: which is by the way, going to be the justification
Speaker 2: for that's not going to be a commutation by Pete
Speaker 2: that's going to be a pardon, and that's going to
Speaker 2: be the justification. Hey, there's so much screwy stuff in
Speaker 2: there that the Democrats made up.
Speaker 3: We don't know what's real.
Speaker 5: We need to let her go.
Speaker 2: Oof, it's going to be corrected that way, be Pete.
Speaker 2: Watch and I'll bet your dollar on that if you want.
Speaker 2: Maybe I think you.
Speaker 8: Wait now, I'm just thinking, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: You don't know if you want to wait your dollar.
Speaker 13: Do you?
Speaker 4: It's awfully it's awfully hard to pardon someone trafficking kids.
Speaker 2: Yes, but if you turn it around and say that
Speaker 2: there was a lot of fake crap in there and
Speaker 2: that she took the fall for Epstein and just find
Speaker 2: that there's.
Speaker 4: Too much craft that they busted him for back in
Speaker 4: two thousand and six, I mean, even if you're just
Speaker 4: looking at the New York stuff, it's going to be
Speaker 4: awfully hard to claim that.
Speaker 2: We already people don't care about reality. They care about
Speaker 2: what they want and what they want to hear. So
Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta be honest. Think about it for
Speaker 2: a minute, think about what people are willing to accept
Speaker 2: and to put aside and ignore.
Speaker 4: At this point, Well, true, I mean, he can't run again,
Speaker 4: so you know, if he does it, you know it's
Speaker 4: not going to matter.
Speaker 8: Ain't got to worry about reelection.
Speaker 2: Well right, I mean, but just and here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Just as obvious as it was that Joe Biden was
Speaker 2: not cognitively capable will be in the president, it is
Speaker 2: as obvious to me that Trump is going to cut
Speaker 2: a deal here.
Speaker 3: I'm serious.
Speaker 2: But okay, I'll take that bet with somebody if they
Speaker 2: want to take it with me, if you are against
Speaker 2: my idea, and we'll set a time limit if you like.
Speaker 2: But it's only going to go until he tries to
Speaker 2: run for a third term. So there you go. Because
Speaker 2: he's still involved in the polls, by the way, and
Speaker 2: he's still the leading the leading candidate for the Republicans
Speaker 2: according to most you know, independent polls for the next
Speaker 2: presidential cycle, which doesn't make sense to me, but you
Speaker 2: know what, a whole lot of things don't at this point.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: We might have a third term president, even though everybody
Speaker 2: was afraid Obama was going to do that. We might
Speaker 2: have a third presidential term out of Trump.
Speaker 6: Well, Obama basically did have a third term with Biden.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but basically versus literally reinstalling the same guy in
Speaker 2: his eighties.
Speaker 8: I think Michae wouldn't let him do it.
Speaker 2: If you say so. Anyway, I'm gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 2: What do you think we should do here? Be Pete,
Speaker 2: I'm putting everybody on hold for a moment, okay. And
Speaker 2: we have spent kent. We have Chris fin Florida, we
Speaker 2: have Danny from California, and we have Chris from the Northeast,
Speaker 2: all up on the lines here.
Speaker 3: So what should we do?
Speaker 4: Well is if you gotta get ready for Aaron's production.
Speaker 4: So it's up to you if you want to go.
Speaker 4: Last remarks, Well, here's.
Speaker 2: The bottom line on Aaron's production. There is no Aaron's
Speaker 2: production tonight. Oh he was, which I was just recently
Speaker 2: informed of. So that's okay. Look, you can't make it home.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be able to broadcast. It's okay. I understand.
Speaker 2: I know some people to be disappointed and wondering where
Speaker 2: the age of transitions is right now? No Kelly dot Com.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately I'm a when we got replays right now.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be back next week. But you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes life gets in the way it happens. No worry's there.
Speaker 2: And besides that, I don't know, you know, does anybody
Speaker 2: care that I'm even putting out a lot of material?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but not important. I think it's more
Speaker 2: important to get to the viewers. But do you want
Speaker 2: me to just like, you know, let a little chaos
Speaker 2: reign for like ten to fifteen minutes or what?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 2: Oh, sure, you're good with that, because I want to
Speaker 2: give you a chance to speak if you want to speak,
Speaker 2: or anything else.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: No, I've said all I had to say about McCain
Speaker 4: and the POW situation.
Speaker 8: We did have a guy here that really bent a
Speaker 8: lot of people on.
Speaker 6: That man was do you remember a guy named Ted Sampley.
Speaker 2: I do vaguely remember that name.
Speaker 3: But what was his deal?
Speaker 8: He was a veteran from Vietnam. He's from Kinston, and.
Speaker 4: He was a thorn in the side there for quite
Speaker 4: a few years going to Washington and protesting about our
Speaker 4: MIAs and POW is fully accounting for him.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 4: He was one of the major spokesmans from back when
Speaker 4: that was, you know, a popular thing back in the
Speaker 4: eighties early nineties.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what about him? What happened there.
Speaker 4: Well, he was just he was basically just especially I
Speaker 4: think I'm trying to remember if he had some stuff
Speaker 4: when Carrie was running about, because he did.
Speaker 8: I think he died before McCain, I don't know, so
Speaker 8: that would put him out of it with Carrie.
Speaker 4: Anyway, he was constantly in Washington protesting, and he had
Speaker 4: a couple of organizations that were basically fighting the government saying, hey,
Speaker 4: you know, we've got these numbers, we've got you know,
Speaker 4: legitimate statements from people who have seen.
Speaker 8: People over there. Why are we not doing anything about it?
Speaker 8: And then it was very vocal.
Speaker 4: You know, when we put Vietnam on favored trade status,
Speaker 4: that was something that he was really upset about, you
Speaker 4: know the fact that we're now trading with them and
Speaker 4: treating them like our allies, and yet we still had
Speaker 4: people over there.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and you know, it is a gang of
Speaker 2: those guys. As I remember, there was a group of
Speaker 2: them right that were really super vocal and we're pissed
Speaker 2: about all that kind of stuff, and rightfully so. And
Speaker 2: literally that led to this sort of I want to
Speaker 2: call it the rehabilitation of the Vietnam history that people
Speaker 2: went through and the sentimentality the Vietnam guilt syndrome then
Speaker 2: went out in this country for a bit, and then
Speaker 2: it disappeared down the memory hole like everything else. And
Speaker 2: it's sad to me that it did, because you know what, Okay,
Speaker 2: so the guy who was left behind five years ago
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Now, when did he stop mattering?
Speaker 13: You know?
Speaker 2: I don't answer, I know.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering at what point what company was involved that
Speaker 4: allowed us to start the rehab of what went on
Speaker 4: over there, and the fact that we put a communist
Speaker 4: country on favored nation status so that we could do
Speaker 4: trade with them.
Speaker 6: Who wanted to move a factory over there. I don't
Speaker 6: think it was Nike.
Speaker 8: It had to be somebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, sure, I'm sure of it. But then again,
Speaker 2: it's hard to unravel because people stop paying attention. Like
Speaker 2: I said, the Chuck No Harris movies, I don't know
Speaker 2: if you remember those, but the Missing An Action deal
Speaker 2: and even the Rambo phenomenon was all about turning those
Speaker 2: guys into heroes, which bothered the hell out of me,
Speaker 2: because not only were people forgotten on the battlefield, but
Speaker 2: people return here broken. And you and I've been over this.
Speaker 2: We all know my personal You know, if you know
Speaker 2: this show, you know already what I'm gonna say. But
Speaker 2: you know we've had nothing but what more suicides now
Speaker 2: hat of guys who have served? Oh yeah, because I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: you know, And I say this, and I'm talking on
Speaker 2: with the colos here we're served. I'm not saying you
Speaker 2: served during your time. I'm just saying you served. And
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that I will never ever forgive the
Speaker 2: idea that you send people in the harms way, regardless
Speaker 2: of what the core the cause is, the political calculus is,
Speaker 2: the enemy supposedly is. I don't care. Okay, there's another
Speaker 2: problem here, And the other problem is you don't just
Speaker 2: leave your people behind. You just don't. And it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if they're an MIA or they're broken and they're
Speaker 2: back home to deal with the fact that you broke them.
Speaker 2: You as in the government, you as in the system,
Speaker 2: you as in the greeting motherfuckers, you broke them. You
Speaker 2: are responsible. We the rest of us have to live
Speaker 2: with it. So, yeah, I got a problem there. And no,
Speaker 2: it didn't start with Vietnam. It just so happens. That's
Speaker 2: my window into it.
Speaker 4: And she would think with what went on in Vietnam,
Speaker 4: somebody would have learned a damn lesson when it came
Speaker 4: to Afghanistan. We've got a whole generation there that was
Speaker 4: a twenty year occupation for what. You know, The thing
Speaker 4: that gets me now is when I see, you know,
Speaker 4: somebody put on Facebook or X that you know, we
Speaker 4: spent twenty years, We lost thousands of people, yep, more
Speaker 4: than that, injured and back home and broken, just to
Speaker 4: replace the Taliban with the Taliban.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exact job, guys, exactly. But here's here's the reason why.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to give you the most basic analogy
Speaker 2: I can give you. If you live in a neighborhood
Speaker 2: where a store is constantly getting shoplifted out of and
Speaker 2: people go through it the way to prison it and
Speaker 2: shove look it all the time, I'm going to tell
Speaker 2: you why. It's because a lot of people have gotten
Speaker 2: away with it. So if you continuously allow somebody to
Speaker 2: steal from you, whether it is a pack of cookies
Speaker 2: or some electronics, or it's somebody you care about freaking soul,
Speaker 2: you allow people to steal it and you'll do nothing
Speaker 2: in response, You're going to encourage more thieves. You're going
Speaker 2: to encourage not only more thieves, but at the very
Speaker 2: least more theft Get it. I don't mean to say
Speaker 2: that to UVPT. I hope you get that. I don't
Speaker 2: know what I gotta tell you a lot of people don't.
Speaker 8: We've had this discussion before, you know. It's you've got
Speaker 8: so many people out there. It's like this towed stuff.
Speaker 4: They go through, they find all this money and they
Speaker 4: cut all these programs and they kill I mean, hell,
Speaker 4: look at the Department of Education and gut it, you know,
Speaker 4: but we still I've yet.
Speaker 8: Did I see anything in the big beautiful.
Speaker 6: Bill concerning additional funding for veterans?
Speaker 8: I don't think I did. Now I may be wrong there.
Speaker 8: I've not read the thing, and there may be something
Speaker 8: tucked in there that I don't know about.
Speaker 4: But why in the hell are we not providing the
Speaker 4: money for the services to go out there and take
Speaker 4: care of the people that we basically, you know, when
Speaker 4: they signed up and we were in the middle of something, Hey,
Speaker 4: thank you for your service.
Speaker 6: Hey we're proud of your service. Boom boom boom, and
Speaker 6: now nothing.
Speaker 4: And what really gets me is the way the public
Speaker 4: is not holding Washington accountable for not taking care of
Speaker 4: all these people that we've sent over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because nobody does.
Speaker 8: And you know what, well, we have the attention span
Speaker 8: of a gnat.
Speaker 5: You know it's on the back.
Speaker 2: Burner now, but it's not the attention span. I'm telling
Speaker 2: you that really go back to my analogy here. You
Speaker 2: can get something out of stealing, and nobody bust you.
Speaker 2: What reason you have not to continue to steal? H
Speaker 2: I'm just asking a practical question here. If I can
Speaker 2: walk into a place and I can steal my breakfast
Speaker 2: every single day, and nobody does the damn thing about it,
Speaker 2: why shouldn't I just go there and steal my breakfast
Speaker 2: every day. I'm just asking a logical question here, and
Speaker 2: now you know the why nobody does anything about it.
Speaker 2: That's why it will keep happening. Anyway. Let's let some
Speaker 2: chaos rain and bring them all on. I say, what
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 3: Sure, go for it.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go to open participants are unmuted. There
Speaker 2: we go. Now let me kill off off. Hang on,
Speaker 2: hang on, I gotta kill off.
Speaker 7: My sorry, sorry.
Speaker 3: You unleased.
Speaker 2: I have unleashed everyone, so you are all live and we.
Speaker 7: Be the war mom drewing neo con drive with bread
Speaker 7: on his hands to his very last day. But don't worry.
Speaker 7: We've got Lindsey Graham now, so can continueing on the
Speaker 7: march and continue on the.
Speaker 5: Home.
Speaker 7: So uh stump, I've done talking about the scrum bags.
Speaker 7: I will know you guys. I'll try to talk about
Speaker 7: something fun.
Speaker 8: But yeah, I got I got something for you. Let
Speaker 8: me let me, let me try to take the lead here,
Speaker 8: if it's okay, that's.
Speaker 2: For a moment, all right.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know we've all been uh uh given this
Speaker 3: narrative that you know, like there are times the charm.
Speaker 9: You know, third time, ThReD times the charm doesn't apply
Speaker 9: when you tell your wife that you know she needs shi.
Speaker 3: A few pounds. Now, it gets you in the dog house.
Speaker 3: I mean I've done that myself, and that's currently where
Speaker 3: I'm sitting. You know, I got all right, I'm out
Speaker 3: here doing vehicle maintenance.
Speaker 7: You know where timon is it?
Speaker 3: This? Man?
Speaker 2: I I totally understand what you're saying. Anybody else who
Speaker 2: wants to jump in here, you go right ahead. But
Speaker 2: I got to tell you third time is a charm
Speaker 2: that's only ever worked for me in one way, and
Speaker 2: that is that you know, because I had to make
Speaker 2: two terrible mistakes to stop making mistakes when it came
Speaker 2: to marrying women. But outside of that, you know, third
Speaker 2: time is usually just because you screwed up so bad
Speaker 2: the first two times. You gotta win the third time.
Speaker 3: For God's sake, generally speak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but outside of that, yeah, there.
Speaker 14: You go, truck truck can put my vote in. Uh,
Speaker 14: I tell you, sir, is this Chris Gras? Yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 14: that's hey.
Speaker 3: What's up dude? There?
Speaker 2: How you go.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 5: Good to.
Speaker 3: Podcast.
Speaker 15: I'm not gonna take over this.
Speaker 3: I just want to say mine love all the research
Speaker 3: that you do. Big Finn Man. Uh, well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I'm cool to talk to you.
Speaker 5: It really is.
Speaker 11: Well that's awesome. I really appreciate it. You have no
Speaker 11: idea seriously, Uh that really makes me feel feel good
Speaker 11: right now.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to see me check. We should keep the.
Speaker 11: Discussion going. I don't know as long as you can. Uh,
Speaker 11: when you bring up mission missing in action, you know
Speaker 11: with Ignors and Rambow two, with Sir Roster Storm, like
Speaker 11: the plot points like were uh they were trying to
Speaker 11: rescue people that were listening in the action, and.
Speaker 3: I feel like.
Speaker 11: Hollywood, I don't know like what Hollywood's will in the
Speaker 11: Hall of Fame really was, but they kind of like.
Speaker 3: I hear an echo, so.
Speaker 2: It's a little bleedback. I'm trying to figure out where
Speaker 2: it's coming from. But go ahead, No, just like I.
Speaker 13: Don't know if it's propaganda or not, because we really
Speaker 13: did have people that were missing in action and prisoners
Speaker 13: of war and she kind of got glossed over like
Speaker 13: for decades, and.
Speaker 11: I don't know, like then you, I don't know, do
Speaker 11: we have the same kind of situation with Iraq in Afghillistan,
Speaker 11: like with the serviceman that went over there, Like I like,
Speaker 11: tonight's the first time I've ever really thought about like whether.
Speaker 3: Or not, like the same.
Speaker 11: Aperiosities from Vietnam were carried over to two thousand and one,
Speaker 11: because I know, I know at least a dozen people
Speaker 11: that ended up didn't care because they enlisted because of
Speaker 11: Ctember eleventh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't care about you.
Speaker 7: They don't care about their soldiers. They care about their
Speaker 7: their agendas. The politicians don't care. They you know, I don't,
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 5: I got VP.
Speaker 7: I hope they gave something this big beautiful bill for
Speaker 7: the veterans. But you know what, I already got it.
Speaker 7: I think we went to a big beautiful tax break.
Speaker 2: You know, listen, you're righting, Uh, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3: But here's here's the.
Speaker 2: Bad part is they figured out it's a big propaganda play.
Speaker 2: And what they figured out is the American public, No,
Speaker 2: London needs to be satisfied or made them feel better
Speaker 2: like they did with Vietnam, because they're completely ignoring the
Speaker 2: fact that we have you know, uh, dozens of guys
Speaker 2: committing suicide on a daily basis in this country.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if a proper amount of money was being spent
Speaker 7: to veters that deserve it, that they and the care
Speaker 7: that they need, wouldn't have any these these guys out
Speaker 7: there doing the Moody Warrior projects.
Speaker 5: You wouldn't have to We shouldn't have.
Speaker 7: To have anything like that. That's the point.
Speaker 2: No, And they really thought right there, and really what
Speaker 2: they did is they figured out a way to reduce
Speaker 2: the body count so the initial shock wasn't as bad.
Speaker 2: And then they figured out, nobody's gonna have any guilt
Speaker 2: if it's not in the headlines to shut it down,
Speaker 2: and therefore nobody thinks about the guys who went to
Speaker 2: Afghanistan in Iraq anymore. Oh that's over with, not for them.
Speaker 2: So again I got a big little finger to stick
Speaker 2: up at this whole thing about you know, think you
Speaker 2: for your service. Yeah, you're you're, you know good, thank you,
Speaker 2: mister Robot. Anyway, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: I still think about them work.
Speaker 2: No, you do, but there are very few of us
Speaker 2: that do. And that's the ugly truth. Look, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put you on old Chris because obviously they got to
Speaker 2: control some people's lines because of the feedback. Uh, and
Speaker 2: I'm putting them everybody back on that I can, but
Speaker 2: I put you on hold for a second, Chris. And
Speaker 2: I'm also going to put Smien Kent on a hold
Speaker 2: briefly just to keep the echo down. But I'm going
Speaker 2: to try and bounce around so that everybody can speak.
Speaker 2: Just pay attention to him to become unmuted. Sorry, guys,
Speaker 2: late Chuck, I'm back.
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's a lot of too far, too late, but
Speaker 12: just say, you know, we have short term memories. Now.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to endorse Joe Biden's foreign policy.
Speaker 12: The domestic policy he passed the path back which was
Speaker 12: probably should have been been bigger, but.
Speaker 5: It was one of the biggest.
Speaker 12: Legislations that put it to law to actually help veterans,
Speaker 12: especially from Asian Orange, from Vietnam to the burn pits
Speaker 12: in the in the Middle Eastern Wars.
Speaker 5: And and yeah, we have we have a basically I
Speaker 5: think last time statistically seventeen Soldiers Committee susid the basis
Speaker 5: you don't care about it.
Speaker 12: But then also do they cut thea staff And we
Speaker 12: don't know what kind of effect that's going to happen.
Speaker 5: If you're not keeping statistics, it's going to get put
Speaker 5: down the memory hole.
Speaker 2: Now a lot of people don't remember this, but back
Speaker 2: when I had mister Hicks on this program, who was
Speaker 2: a soldier who served and was trying to sound the
Speaker 2: alarm about the burn pits, the government was denying it. Still. Yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and fifteen and I had Hicks on here.
Speaker 2: They banned him from the PX bookstores. They tried to
Speaker 2: they pushed him out and tried to take away his
Speaker 2: retirement and everything else, simply because he complained about the
Speaker 2: damn burn pits.
Speaker 12: Well, I have we befriended a fellow marine and served
Speaker 12: three he signed up nine to eleven, served three tours
Speaker 12: Marine Battle of Faloosa, and he ended up wutting became
Speaker 12: Pavilion to start going to school. He got to get
Speaker 12: this nursing license up to a LBN, but they wouldn't
Speaker 12: pay for him to be an r N, and I
Speaker 12: think it was disgusting. We didn't pay for him to
Speaker 12: become an RN. But he's been in the medical field,
Speaker 12: and now he's been not only does he served PSD,
Speaker 12: but he's also suffered serious immune issues. And I asked him, Hey,
Speaker 12: were you around burn fits pits? He said all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now the VIA is taking care of them, but they
Speaker 5: should have they should have done that.
Speaker 12: This was you know, they're just poisoning our soldiers and
Speaker 12: you know what, you're also poisoning the community that were
Speaker 12: doing it.
Speaker 5: The innocent iraqis you know, is you know we're all people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but those pits. I want people to recognize that
Speaker 2: those pits were lit in two thousand and three the
Speaker 2: first time, and you know there were chemical weapons over there,
Speaker 2: but we found amut Yet, well, where do you think
Speaker 2: they disposed of the chemical weapons? Exposed stuff in the
Speaker 2: damn burn pits? Number one? Number two they were bringing
Speaker 2: all kinds of crap in there and denying it for
Speaker 2: a decade. So how many guys do you think died
Speaker 2: in between during that decade from stuff that they didn't
Speaker 2: even understand they had. Okay, so again again, my point is,
Speaker 2: whether it's suicide or it's lung disease or whatever, understand this.
Speaker 2: You're expendable. You're expendable, and you're super expendable because you
Speaker 2: volunteered to be expendable. Yeah, and that is my complaint.
Speaker 2: Is no bad reflection on any veteran. I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to tell you that that's what makes me most sick.
Speaker 2: I don't want this done in my name. Didn't you
Speaker 2: hang on a second? I want to let other people
Speaker 2: are on. But like I said, there were echo issues.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to put it back on and see
Speaker 2: who echoes. And I'm sorry, I'm neu who echoes? But
Speaker 2: Danny's let's see if that part of it could anybody
Speaker 2: can jump in guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, it.
Speaker 3: My own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're on you to go.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: No, I just I don't know, like because I don't
Speaker 2: think the same kind of records.
Speaker 11: Will be kept like for people like I was twenty
Speaker 11: years old in two thousand and three, so like I said,
Speaker 11: like I didn't have the balls, Like I'm sorry to
Speaker 11: be crossed, but I didn't have the balls to go
Speaker 11: into the day. You know, the military around that time,
Speaker 11: and I know quite a few people that passed away
Speaker 11: or you know, they were considered miss missing the action.
Speaker 11: I just don't know, like when it comes to write
Speaker 11: the correlation between the Vietnam War and Iraq and Afgharic
Speaker 11: and I just don't know. So I don't mean to
Speaker 11: be callous when I bring it up, but.
Speaker 7: I don't know, Like.
Speaker 3: It's it's kind of hard to.
Speaker 11: Take the Pentagon seriously when you're talking about this serviceman,
Speaker 11: and especially when you hear about the reports with good
Speaker 11: chain and like putting restrictions on photographs on caskets.
Speaker 3: Coming back home and things like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look, I'm going to put a couple other
Speaker 2: people on the load. And why because we got Jimmy James,
Speaker 2: I think, on the line. And I want to give
Speaker 2: everybody an individual clear opportunity to say a final word
Speaker 2: for the week, because you know, we're into the ten
Speaker 2: thirty time year. And yeah, I'm going to get off
Speaker 2: because it's been a long week, even though I haven't
Speaker 2: done a lot of broadcast. So Jimmy, you hear me, yep,
Speaker 2: absolutely go ahead.
Speaker 3: Now I'm come up a lot.
Speaker 15: So I sent you a clip keep playing.
Speaker 2: Uh No, I'm not going to play a clip right
Speaker 2: now because we're going to get out of here, but
Speaker 2: I'll save it for the next time for sure, because
Speaker 2: it's always going to be all around me.
Speaker 15: It's not even a minute along.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to play unreviewed clips on here
Speaker 2: right now, right now, so I have to review stuff
Speaker 2: and I can't. I have no time to do it,
Speaker 2: and I'm unless. I was getting ready to sign off,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to put you on to speak if
Speaker 2: you want to speak.
Speaker 3: Speak the clip. All right, Well, all right, man, you know, sorry.
Speaker 2: About that, but it just so happens you came in
Speaker 2: when we're on the late end of when we're gonna
Speaker 2: sign off here. But I appreciate you, and I will
Speaker 2: save that clip for next time and I'll review it.
Speaker 2: I can't do copywritten stuff right now, so if there's
Speaker 2: any copywritten music or anything in it, I gotta watch it.
Speaker 2: If it's gonna be for podcast purposes, because otherwise I
Speaker 2: got to disqualify the podcast for distribution, which is a
Speaker 2: pain in the ass. And also I'm being more careful
Speaker 2: since I got kicked off with yet another platform and
Speaker 2: got you know, deactivated on PayPal. But hang on, I'll
Speaker 2: give you another chance. At the very end, I'll let
Speaker 2: you out the last word for this show, Jimmy James,
Speaker 2: hang on there. Okay. Anyway, let's go back around, and
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go around to the order that you
Speaker 2: guys are laid out on the app, which is weird
Speaker 2: because I can't even remember who called in first. I
Speaker 2: don't feel that well. But anyway, so no disrespect to
Speaker 2: anybody's order of calling in. I'm going to get around
Speaker 2: to everybody right now and let you throw in your
Speaker 2: final thought for the week. Please, and also be pete
Speaker 2: if you want to prepare an idea in your mind,
Speaker 2: something you want to say, I'll get to you right
Speaker 2: before Jimmy James. Okay, so good to you. All right,
Speaker 2: thank you guys, And I'm not even going to give
Speaker 2: you a final word for this week. Just everybody else's
Speaker 2: whatever they say, it's theirs, Okay, So I guess that's Chris.
Speaker 11: First, Hey, Jimmy James, You're a great guy, and thank
Speaker 11: you for all your help. And that's all I got
Speaker 11: to say. Thank you, and thanks Chuck and be.
Speaker 3: Pete, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Chris. Look, if I was not in the position I'm
Speaker 2: in currently, i'd also try and help you out as well.
Speaker 2: But somebody clicked my PayPal, so that was, you know,
Speaker 2: my main source of income, and I'm dealing with that.
Speaker 3: And I do.
Speaker 2: Anyway, guess we got Danny from California next up, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: your thoughts man.
Speaker 12: Yeah, thank you for having me. My thoughts is, I've
Speaker 12: been a little busy, but I want to reconnect. You
Speaker 12: have a you said there's a missus o's PayPal, because
Speaker 12: I'm sure my PayPal's not gone through because of this.
Speaker 3: You sure have it.
Speaker 5: But I've been busy. But this weekend I'll get on.
Speaker 12: And get rehooked up seconds start contributing again. And I
Speaker 12: encourage everybody else to contribute to Chuck. He's put out
Speaker 12: some good work over the years, and I appreciate that
Speaker 12: you let me come on and see.
Speaker 5: What I what I have to say.
Speaker 2: I appreciate Danny, and if you do that, that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Unfortunately I've had to put hers in there and a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't trust it. But and you don't
Speaker 2: have to talk about the show as you find a word.
Speaker 2: This is not rehearsed, this is not anything I asked
Speaker 2: anybody to do. But I really truly appreciate it. And
Speaker 2: I know you're sincere Nanny, so thank you and thank
Speaker 2: you you know. And also you're one of the few
Speaker 2: people I like to talk to you on Facebook occasionally.
Speaker 3: For me, Thank you.
Speaker 12: I appreciate I have to watch it because I get
Speaker 12: generally nobody agrees with me when I put out like
Speaker 12: my my real thoughts, but I like to share with
Speaker 12: the family stuff, you know, the good stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but you're nine you, but you're not
Speaker 2: nasty or wude to other people or me. Look, and
Speaker 2: that's the thing I like. No matter what it is
Speaker 2: you're talking about and putting out, you always took me
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 12: I really appreciate that I had actually had and it
Speaker 12: really made me feel good. I had a few people
Speaker 12: reach out to me, and they're they're on a far
Speaker 12: different political perspective. I consider myself on the Christian left,
Speaker 12: and they have says I may not agree with politically
Speaker 12: with you, but I appreciate that you actually will engage
Speaker 12: in a a.
Speaker 5: Very respectful dialogue.
Speaker 12: And that's all I'm really looking for because look, most
Speaker 12: of my friends and most of my loved ones, they're conservative.
Speaker 12: I was raised in a very environment. I'm just more
Speaker 12: independent and I come from a real honest place, and
Speaker 12: I just I really care for the betterment of people overall.
Speaker 12: I'm a bleeding heart, Like I said, I'm a god
Speaker 12: very bleeding heart, lovable lefty, and I don't care who
Speaker 12: you are or you know, I just want you better.
Speaker 5: And I've been blessed with my life, so i just
Speaker 5: want to share it.
Speaker 13: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I appreciate those kind words.
Speaker 2: Yeah and really yeah, sorry, d I mean I thought
Speaker 2: you were done there, But look, respectful dialogue is a
Speaker 2: perfect phrase for what it is you do on there.
Speaker 2: And you know, being a guy who does believe in
Speaker 2: individual rights, does believe that guns are good tools, does
Speaker 2: believe a bunch of things. People going, we're contradicting yourself,
Speaker 2: Well not. These are actually my beliefs, not a formula
Speaker 2: somebody else gating, just real simple. Maybe I'm wrong, but
Speaker 2: it's mine.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 2: The other Chris On the line in Florida, though your thoughts.
Speaker 3: All right? Two quick points all right.
Speaker 9: One to mister Chris Graves, if you ever really needs
Speaker 9: to help needs helping, and the property that I've got,
Speaker 9: I have three mobile home or three Arvy pads with
Speaker 9: electric subject water, all that hooked up, I'd be.
Speaker 3: Glad to help him out if I can't.
Speaker 9: Two, if you were to start up an adventure with
Speaker 9: a podcast, I would consider.
Speaker 3: I would like to tell you that consider a like
Speaker 3: commedic news in a comedic news probably a podcast. Uh.
Speaker 9: I didn't even throw my head right now. I'm an
Speaker 9: amateur and this stuff. But yeah, I've got a different
Speaker 9: point of view.
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree with you know what. Between you
Speaker 2: and Jimmy James, believe it or not, you guys got
Speaker 2: good ideas.
Speaker 3: I I like it.
Speaker 2: I want to do a comedic news thing. I would
Speaker 2: love to do that, but I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: think I'm that funny. I mean, you know, outside of
Speaker 2: my house, you're.
Speaker 3: More funny than anything. Chuck.
Speaker 9: I'm not trying to catch you off, but I mean
Speaker 9: you got to be able to laugh at this ship,
Speaker 9: because you know.
Speaker 2: What, the world's the stage, right Well, anybody can laugh
Speaker 2: at it, right, but to get other people to laugh
Speaker 2: is a gift that I just don't feel like as
Speaker 2: though I have. I wish I did, but maybe maybe
Speaker 2: if some of you guys help me with it, we
Speaker 2: can do it.
Speaker 6: I think you've got more potential than what you realize.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm all forward if you want to, if you
Speaker 2: want to pitch in to help, just get it rolling,
Speaker 2: and you know con you know, contribute content wise. I
Speaker 2: would love to do that. I'm sorry I'm stepping all
Speaker 2: over your final thoughts, but but you're good. I'm coold with.
Speaker 3: This discussion.
Speaker 2: Cool cool. I appreciate you man, and look, and I
Speaker 2: thank you for sticking by me once again. I apologize
Speaker 2: for getting the wed with you in the chat room.
Speaker 2: But you said a couple of things that sounded like
Speaker 2: the jack stick that gave me a problem, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh you're back, uh, and and I I am.
Speaker 2: I don't share what damage I do to that guy.
Speaker 2: So for a moment, you look like familiar to that guy.
Speaker 2: So that's my mistake again. Uh, you and I are
Speaker 2: probably more alike among my listeners. You and I are
Speaker 2: probably more alike than uh anybody hearing this would realize. Uh,
Speaker 2: so my sincere apology for getting mad with you for
Speaker 2: a second even as well, Listen, I know how to
Speaker 2: be a professional asshole. I got you. Uh just just
Speaker 2: ask you just well you can. You can't ask my
Speaker 2: ex wives because they're both dead anyways. Uh you know
Speaker 2: all about the fun there, but.
Speaker 3: Uh, for I haven't come in.
Speaker 2: I'm living it right. Look you got and you got
Speaker 2: to laugh at all of it. And believe me, the
Speaker 2: second that I that I know I'm gonna die, the
Speaker 2: first thing I'm going to do is laugh my ass off. Anyway,
Speaker 2: when when the universe decides to be merciful, I might
Speaker 2: let everybody lose for a final Norman of chaos. But
Speaker 2: we do have two other people to get to Sped
Speaker 2: Kent and Jimmy James, and also b Pete is going
Speaker 2: to go in before Jimmy James, but hopefully Jimmy's loading
Speaker 2: up with something good towards the end here. Uh Smith,
Speaker 2: Kat you we're back to live your thoughts.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I wanted to say thanks Charlie. To callers that can't
Speaker 7: call it, you guys are awesome. You rock and uh
Speaker 7: scared to talk to you guys and hear from you guys.
Speaker 7: Uh right now, Man, I was hoping this is like
Speaker 7: the third time now that I've got a you know,
Speaker 7: I took a Friday off and there's no an uncle
Speaker 7: and and I like I caught up with him finally.
Speaker 7: What was it like two weeks ago, Chuck, I was
Speaker 7: off and I was able to call in and get
Speaker 7: hold of now and like last week, I missed it.
Speaker 7: Like I said before, I was listening to the Uncle
Speaker 7: Show on the rerun before you went live here tonight,
Speaker 7: and you know, because here's the guys talking about I
Speaker 7: started talking about all Cochin and he's going the Uncle
Speaker 7: is letting the you know, the BA caller to call
Speaker 7: in and all that, and I can hear like, oh, man,
Speaker 7: I know I wanted to and I was working. I
Speaker 7: was thinking about it when I was working, like, man,
Speaker 7: I know they want to talk wrestling to Hulk just die.
Speaker 7: So anyways, I didn't hear it, but you know I
Speaker 7: showed up tonight and now there you know, there's no
Speaker 7: uncle on Aaron. But I gotta give Aaron and Uncle
Speaker 7: up warning warning next time I take you guys better
Speaker 7: be around, all right, that be in. I'll just say, Chuck,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna send you an email, but if you want,
Speaker 7: I can hang out a little bit, you know, after
Speaker 7: the show and talk instead of type a couple of
Speaker 7: questions and stuff, so be easier and typing it all
Speaker 7: out on email if you want to hang out for
Speaker 7: a couple minutes. But that's up to you, but it
Speaker 7: would help because I hate typing.
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's just let's just give it a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes and we'll we'll see if I can
Speaker 2: get if I can close out the show within a
Speaker 2: reasonable amount of time, I'll do that well. To be honest,
Speaker 2: I'm suffering.
Speaker 7: From just gonna say it was good to talk to
Speaker 7: everybody and be peating. And I'm not going to keep
Speaker 7: us any longer, but I'll move it a while. But
Speaker 7: I just want to say, love everybody, Love your neighbor.
Speaker 7: There at Divide and Talkers, they're alders trick in the book,
Speaker 7: and that's how they're getting away with everything, all the
Speaker 7: big you know, these powers that be are doing it
Speaker 7: right here. They got everybody divided, So just come together,
Speaker 7: everybody to show the well, you know, watch bears, watch
Speaker 7: live can Bears on YouTube. It's awesome. It's like medicine.
Speaker 7: I can't explore dot org the best thing you can
Speaker 7: do and love everybody, and I'll be.
Speaker 2: Around, so excellent drank and spank can't and yea stick
Speaker 2: around for a couple of minutes. We're going to get
Speaker 2: to Jimmy James right after we go to BP. But
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm just kind of warm down because
Speaker 2: I was doing a lot of work behind the scenes
Speaker 2: this week and anyway, hear a lot of broadcasts. But
Speaker 2: I had to do this show and glad I did,
Speaker 2: because just a small group of guys can create an
Speaker 2: interesting dynamic and something that is good not only for
Speaker 2: them to speak to, but for others to hear. And
Speaker 2: that's my organizing principle here for this show. I want
Speaker 2: to give everybody a platform. Yeah yes, but I also
Speaker 2: want to give them the ability to hear something different
Speaker 2: here so we can keep doing that. I'm happy to
Speaker 2: do it as long as I can afford to keep
Speaker 2: it rowing very simple. Repeat. Before we go to Jimmy James,
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you your shot because I did
Speaker 2: tell him they'd give him the final word, so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna you know, I always try to follow through them
Speaker 2: what I say I'm going to do well.
Speaker 4: I just appreciate everybody calling in this week, and yeah,
Speaker 4: we had a pretty good show, and.
Speaker 2: We'll go ahead and move on to Jimmy right, And
Speaker 2: we didn't even get to naked news, but hang on
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 3: We can say that.
Speaker 2: I think it'll keep over the week, you know, like
Speaker 2: in the fridge, like certain kinds of foods, you can
Speaker 2: leave it in here till next week. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: we can do that with that one. But yeah, so
Speaker 2: I'm going to give the final day though.
Speaker 4: Oh all, while we were while we were discussing this,
Speaker 4: I did look. The New York Times ran a story
Speaker 4: in two thousand and one. Apparently we have no MIAs
Speaker 4: and no pow is from the Afghan Iraq conflict.
Speaker 8: In fact, this was the first time that they didn't.
Speaker 4: Have anybody to put in the tomb of the unknown
Speaker 4: soldier because they were able to identify everybody.
Speaker 8: Based on these newer DNA techniques that they've done.
Speaker 2: Don't think that's true, me, Pete.
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you what the New York Times reported.
Speaker 2: I won't fair enough, but I'm asking you in the
Speaker 2: real world, don't believe that didn't buy that story. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm asking.
Speaker 8: No, I think it's highly plausible.
Speaker 4: We had people over there that nobody knew was over there,
Speaker 4: and therefore they turned off missing.
Speaker 8: Nobody knows where they were.
Speaker 2: M I don't almost find it impossible that the military
Speaker 2: lost nobody, but because they lost people in every single
Speaker 2: effort they ever made, even when it wasn't a lot,
Speaker 2: they always lost somebody.
Speaker 5: I said that bo Bergdal was.
Speaker 4: The last one that was captive that they got back,
Speaker 4: and that's the one that you know, we traded a
Speaker 4: bunch of money based on their their statistics that the
Speaker 4: New York Times looked into it. I wouldn't think that
Speaker 4: unless you know, Hey, the story came out when Biden
Speaker 4: was in.
Speaker 3: So who knows.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't care who was in. I caught bullshit.
Speaker 2: But that's me, you know, again, the conspiracy theorist, the dummy,
Speaker 2: the liberal right. If you want to hate me, oh oh,
Speaker 2: you can also hate me as a right wing lunatic
Speaker 2: who's an anti vaxer scumbag too, But you know that's okay.
Speaker 2: You don't know where I'm coming from, apparently speaking to
Speaker 2: all those hate mails and stuff. You know, still, one
Speaker 2: of these days I think I should make a book
Speaker 2: out of them. Really. But anyhow, let me give Jimmy
Speaker 2: James the final word. I told you I wasn't going
Speaker 2: to talk, but I got to fill the gaps here.
Speaker 2: And thank you VP for doing this with me. Thank
Speaker 2: you to all the callers, and especially thank you to
Speaker 2: Jimmy James, who you know, again, we would have lost
Speaker 2: some facility here to even do this show and had
Speaker 2: he not chipped in at the right time to help,
Speaker 2: let's keep going, just saying, but yeah, Jimmy, you won't
Speaker 2: find a word for the week. I'm sure you got
Speaker 2: something now, maybe loaded up. It's on you.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 15: I just wanted to make a shout out to American Eagles.
Speaker 15: She could finally putting an attractive woman in the jeans
Speaker 15: ad nice after about seven years of.
Speaker 16: Vomiting after looking at what they call models in Sydney's
Speaker 16: Swinging Chick. Yeah, that's definitely move in the right direction.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 15: I'm sure she kind of that kind of down syndrome
Speaker 15: look thing going on, but hey, at least she's got
Speaker 15: two big hooters, all right, the bus.
Speaker 2: Perfect. And I got to tell you, if you won't
Speaker 2: respect that, maybe you're listening to the Long Show, I'm
Speaker 2: nearly O
Speaker 3: And