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Speaker 1: Come in. We're welcome. I'm e. G. Marshall. Do you

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ever think of exactly what the word mystery means? Something

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beyond human comprehension? Is part of Webster's first definition the

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supernatural the Gothic, which is ghosts the ghouls, of course,

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but the word has a wider meaning. It is also

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defined as an enigma, often used retrospectively of what has

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been but is no longer unexplained or unrevealed. And this

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story is summed up in that statement, more or less

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exactly er our mystery drama, The Hanging Judgment was written

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especially for the Mystery Theater by Ian Martin and stars

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Mandel Kramer and Leon Janney. It is sponsored in part

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by Ludden's medicated cough drops and Buick motor division. I'll

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be back shortly with that one murder, perhaps the greatest

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and most inexplicable mystery of all. How can one human

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being ever take the life of another? Bad enough in

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the heat of anger, but outrageous and sickening when it

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is in cold blood? Yet that particular riddle of the

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crime of murder is not the only one. We all

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know the others, How, where, when, and in so many

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cases the most baffling Who, ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

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I now present to you the problem of solving that

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in the case of the state against doctor Samuel Grant

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and missus Cheryl Stafford.

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Speaker 2: Who's that had?

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Speaker 1: It's me, Barbara, sam What are you doing here?

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Speaker 3: You don't belong here anymore.

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Speaker 1: You know we've made a day tonight to talk over

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the divorce.

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Speaker 3: You did knock me?

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Speaker 4: Get out of here?

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Speaker 1: Who's that with you? I said I'd bring Cheryl along here.

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Speaker 3: You get that slop out of my house and off

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my property.

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Speaker 1: What I've gone away? What give me the gun? Barbara?

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Speaker 5: I have?

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Speaker 2: Give you what you deserve?

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Speaker 3: You kicking?

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Speaker 4: Lying?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: Who shots.

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Speaker 5: Hell out of Lieutenant KINSELLA, Mister district Attorney.

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Speaker 1: I kind of expected to see you earlier.

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Speaker 7: At the scene of the crime.

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Speaker 5: As we say, wanna fill me in on its Grant case.

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Speaker 1: M let's go into my office.

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Speaker 7: Looks like murder.

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Speaker 1: One killed shot close range, probably thirty eight.

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Speaker 6: Such thanks well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Could have been a prouder of the woman Barbara Grant

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were separated from her husband even though they find no,

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we haven't been able to reach him. A Swedish maid

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was waiting by the shots and calls us in. See,

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thinks doctor Grant might be out of town. Who made

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his uh her maid the dead woman?

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Speaker 5: He said they separated, Okay, so how would she know

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about the doctor's comings and goings? Eh, sit down, Al,

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I got.

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Speaker 1: A hunch you don't have to be nervous over this one.

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Speaker 6: That's what you mean.

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Speaker 1: I looked over a couple of pictures of this doctor

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Samuel Grant lover her boy. How do you figure? No chase?

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Her final breakup of the Grants was over a secretary.

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He had a babe named Cheryl Stafford to pick her up.

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And as I'm waiting on that, seems missus Grant made

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enough noise so the doctor fired her and she moved

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back to her hometown, Las Vegas. MM.

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Speaker 5: And if doctor Grant is out of town, that's where

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he might be.

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Speaker 1: Figures, we shouldn't know any moment, like maybe right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: Well you don't say? Well, how about that? I hold

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it minute. I guess who just walked into the station.

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Speaker 5: Not our prime salespect, Nana, the the good doctor Grant himself.

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Speaker 1: And I was out of town on special business when

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I heard her report on radio, So I flew back

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here to Los Angeles right away and came straight to

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the precinct house. We appreciate that, doctor Grant, but you don't.

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But you can't think that I have anything to do

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with the murder of my wife. I never even suggested

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that you are bringing it up, No matter what you

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might suspect, I couldn't have. I parked my car at

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the airport day before yesterday and flew to Las Vegas

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for a medical meeting. I didn't return till early this morning.

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I'm sure the airport parking lot of employees can vouch

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for that. Federill be checked well, I mean, I ask

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what is being done about whatever power or whoever he was,

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who who murdered my wife. First off, we're checking on

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the bullet that killed her, and there was a gun

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beside her, a thirty two. It had been fired once,

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But that couldn't have been what killed her, could it.

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We'll have to wait for ballistics to decide that in

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the meanwhile, Now, just for the record, since you were

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virtually offered the information at the time of the murder,

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which was between six and eight pm on the night

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of Argust twenty ninth, do I understand that you are

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out of town, to be more specific, in Las Vegas, Nevada,

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strictly off the record. I think I won't answer that

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question until I have found me a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Jakaj justsin In associates.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to doctor, mister Justin only after calling this

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is doctor Samuel Grant.

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Speaker 2: Could you hold it a moment, doctor, Let me check it.

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Mister Jackson is in the office. Oh that one miter,

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Samuel Grant whose wife was just murdered and.

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Speaker 1: He wants me to represent him.

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Speaker 2: I presume he didn't say so, but why else would

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he call?

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Speaker 4: Are you in or out?

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Speaker 1: What else can I be?

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Speaker 2: He needs me because he's guilty.

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Speaker 1: I only down that judgment.

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Speaker 2: Will you read the papers? JC?

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Speaker 7: Just like me?

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Speaker 2: You know everything points against this guy being.

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Speaker 1: Innocent, and if it does, he still deserves the best

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legal defense he can find.

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Speaker 5: That's a basic lawyer's ethics.

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Speaker 2: If he gets you, he's got it. Does he have

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you make an appointment.

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Speaker 1: For me to say him as soon as possible today

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without fail?

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Speaker 2: Yes, their boss, but me, I don't think he deserves you.

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I'm Sandy Russell girl Friday to j Carr Justin, I'm

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twenty five. I want a home, children, a happy marriage.

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But that's not what any girl could expect from Justin,

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especially not as Friday girl.

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Speaker 4: Working for Justin is like eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Wild, exhilarating, exhausting hours every day.

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Speaker 4: You either love him or hate him.

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Speaker 2: Know in between his top tinations, seeing his own way, tender, compassionate,

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who he has to be because day in day out

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people put their lives in his hands.

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Speaker 4: Guilty of innocence, he said, lots of desk defense.

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Speaker 1: So, doctor Grant, you told the police that at the

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time of your wife's death you were in Las Vegas.

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The attendant at the parking lot. Were you in Las Vegas?

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I had a speaking engagement. Where did you stay? Stay?

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You spent overnight there? What hotel? Oh, it's silly, I

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don't recall some motel it should be How did you

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get to the motel? Well, how does anyone get to

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a motel by car? Only yours was parked in the

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Los Angeles airport. Remember, uh, Well, I could have gone

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by cab or rented a car. Sure, but if you

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went by cab, the motel would remember if you managed

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to remember the name of it, And if you rented

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a car be a simple matter to check who side

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did you want? Mine? Of the police, I represent you yours.

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I'm just giving you a little taste of the kind

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of questioning that you're going to have to face up to,

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either from the police or prosecuting attorney. I see now

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it wouldn't hold up. That's better. Now, what is true? Doctor?

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I was there when my wife was murder was shot?

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Did you shoot her? No? Who did? I don't know.

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Were you alone when it happened?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: There was someone with me who my ex secretary Ryl Stafford.

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The medical meeting was only an excuse to fly to

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Vegas and see her. You're in love with her. We

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intend to be married, but my wife won't uh wouldn't

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give me a divorce. M How much of this have

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you told the police? None of it. I used the

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alibi I mean about my car child. Why well, I

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was afraid of how it would look if I mean Barbara,

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that's my wife and I've been having trouble. I didn't

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want to sue for divorce in California because it might

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disturb a alone. I was negotiating, and there's the problem

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also of community property. But in spite of that, she

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had started soup. That's why I was there the night

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before last with Cheryl to ask her to be reasonable

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and not ruin all of us. If you didn't shoot her, doctor,

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who did Miss Stafford? Good lord, No, I want you

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to represent Cheryl both of us. We're innocent, and Miss

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Stafford testified to the fact that you are. You could

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ask her yourself. She's waiting in the car downstairs, but

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you don't have to or for me to testify for her.

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Why not? Because there were two shots. One my wife

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fired at me, the other came from another gun and

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hit her in the back. I swear to you, I'm innocent. Doctor.

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How much did you say to the police, Nothing beyond

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claiming the alibi? All right, if you want me to,

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I'll represent you, but I must warn you, doctor that

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if it goes to trial, I'll be expensive. How much

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is expensive, Well, if you're not invited, nothing. If it

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goes to trial, my expenses and fifty thousand dollars. You're right,

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you're not cheap. NEI there is life, doctor like you.

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I hope. I'm an expert at preserving it.

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Speaker 2: Jacar Justin an associate, just Jake Carr will do.

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Speaker 5: Honey, you can tell him it's District Attorney Herman on

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the wire.

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Speaker 4: Yes, just one moment. Give Ah Herman on the line.

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Speaker 2: She sounds particularly smug.

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Speaker 3: Today, always a bad sign.

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Speaker 2: Put him on, mister Jackson will talk to you now,

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mister Herman.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Hell well, al Well, I just thought you'd like to

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know the grand jury handed down indictments against your clients,

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doctor Grant and Missus Stafford. I'm just having warrants issued

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against them, both for first degree murder and conspiracy to

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commit murder.

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Speaker 1: You know that's going to be a waste of time. Al,

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You don't say, I just did. Ballistics showed that Missus

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Grant was killed with a bullet from a gun other

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than the one i'm a scene of the crime. That

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gun has disappeared. Al without it, you have no case.

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Speaker 6: You wouldn't want to bet on that, would you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a betting man.

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Speaker 5: It's just as well. I've got a nice little surprise

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to spring on you, just for once. See in cart Al.

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Speaker 1: But you got j such me. I'm more worried about

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what I may have got. Well, like they say, a

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bull by the tail. So, ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

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the crime is laid out, and you have met all

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the principal characters, some of them very briefly. The motive

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is established, opportunity in a sense, and the wavering finger

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points said doctor Grant and his enamorata Eryl Stafford, or both,

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or since the vital link is missing the weapon, perhaps

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to someone else as yet unidentified, I shall return shortly

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with that too. The awful suspense of a murder trial

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has begun. The wheels, once set in motion, cannot be

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halted until a jury renders a verdict. A woman is dead,

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life snuffed out by unnatural causes. The whole organization of

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society demands that an explanation or some vindication of her

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ceasing to live must be forthcoming. George Ellen B Prince

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presiding the trial has begun and is in progress. The

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district Attorney is questioning Lieutenant Kinsella on the stand.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Lieutenant, may we get turn to your description of

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the crime, or rather I should say, what's your investigation?

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That night of the twenty ninth of August and subsequent

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follow up investigations.

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Speaker 1: Revealed yes, sir, in response to phone call from Miss

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Turnham at three three four nine Ventura Boulevard West, Covington

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Central sent out a code eleventh. Sergeant Barrassini and his partner,

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Patrolman Kaufman, were first on the scene, responding to a

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general bulletin on murder. I I arrived there myself or

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early in the morning of the thirtieth, about four a m.

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And why did you discover, Lieutenant, a body of a

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woman didn't fight as Missus Barbara Grant was lying before

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the garage door, a revolver lying near her right hand.

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Speaker 6: Had this revolver had been fired?

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, once did the bullet discharged result in the

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death of Missus Barbara Grant?

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Speaker 6: No, sir, What was the cause of death.

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Speaker 1: As a result of ballistics check? Subsequently, a slug from

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a thirty eight revolver almost certainly a police positive.

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Speaker 5: Was this gun found at the scene of the crime? No, sir,

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Has it been found anywhere else since? No, sir, is

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it not true, Lieutenant Kinsella, that, at your request, the

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Police Department of Records and Licenses substantiated the fact that

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two years ago a permit was issued to a doctor,

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Samuel Grant, he was entitled to carry a gun.

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Speaker 1: That is correct, sir.

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Speaker 5: Just one more question, Lieutenant, the type of slug which

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killed missus Barbara Grant did come from a police positive

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thirty eight or absolutely, and it could have gone from

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this particular weapon not You know, you don't have to

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answer that. The question was really unnecessary. You witness calculate.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's complete that question, lieutenant can sell him. Could

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the flug have come from this particular weapon? What weapon?

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Does that? Mysie? Ah? But that's just the point, isn't it, Lieutenant?

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This particular weapon is only a theoretical one, isn't it.

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I'm not sure I know how to answer that question.

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I have no tricks, Lieutenant, I have nothing up my sleeve.

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I'm merely trying to establish that this phantom gun is

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not established. It exists at the moment only as a speculation,

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an inference drawn from a bullet that caused the deathness

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is Grant. Is that not correct, Lieutenant, Yes, sir, it's

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correct as fire as gold. Obstantially, what you have in mind, Lieutenant,

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is that the death bullet could have been fired from

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exactly the sort of gun that the defendant, doctor Samuel Grant,

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was licensed to own and carry. That is just what

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I meant. Well, we can go into that a little later.

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A couple of more questions, if you will, Lieutenant, Yes, sir,

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Now the gvernment was found by Missus Grant had been fired.

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Is that correct, yes, sir? Once what caliber was that

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thirty two? Sir? Was that bullet farm, yes, sir, in

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the back wall of the garage, and the bullet from

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her thirty two was fired in the direction of doctor Grant,

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who was inside the garage at the time, Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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But there were definitely two shots. Well, of course there

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was one right after another. The mad the house hurt them.

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Where was Missus Grant shot in? What part of her body?

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Speaker 7: She was shot in the back?

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Speaker 1: In the back? Thank you very much, Lieutenant. That's really

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all I need.

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Speaker 2: That's what Justin does. That is so great, Tony Ander.

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You run, get everyone cooled off, and the lack and

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then wham's home of Zener. That makes the jury sit

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up and that stays planted in their minds. It's like

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a a baseball game, a trial, inning after inning, each

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side striking out of or scoring.

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Speaker 6: What Justin just did a Dodger.

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Speaker 5: I asked you to describe the events of the night

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of the twenty ninth leading after the death of your wife.

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Speaker 1: All right, to the best of my ability, my wife

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against an agreement I thought we had had taken action

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tossume me for divorce. I'd called her from Las Vegas

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and asked her to reconsider, and we had made a

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date to meet that evening.

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Speaker 5: In your own words, Could you tell us what happened

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when you arrived, I.

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Speaker 1: Can try sheryld of Miss Stafford and I had driven

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there in her car. We parked at the downhill parking

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lot and walked up the two blocks to my I mean,

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to Barbara's house.

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Speaker 6: Why didn't you just drive up and park in the.

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Speaker 1: Drive Well, that's a difficult to explain. The houses perched

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on the side of a hill, the cliff. Really, the

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driveway is difficult to maneuver, So I built this parking

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space on our property just below. Unless you were planning

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to drive into the garage itself, we usually left our

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cars there.

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Speaker 5: Your own car, your own house.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I were separated pending at divorce agreement.

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It was her house.

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Speaker 6: You considered it that I.

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Speaker 1: Was willing to grant her that privilege.

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Speaker 5: After you and Miss Stafford had walked up to the garage,

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what did you find?

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Speaker 1: Well, there was no one home. I had still had

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my keys, and I had just let Miss Stafford and

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myself in when my wife drove up. We'd come in

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the back door and it was just a dusk, so

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I didn't bother to put on any lights. Cheryl and

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I just went through the inner door to the garage

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about the same time as Barbara opened the garage sliding door.

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Speaker 2: Who's that hate it?

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Speaker 1: It's me, Barbara, Sam.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing here? You don't belong here anymore.

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Speaker 1: You know we made a date to night talk over

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the divorce.

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Speaker 3: You did not me.

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Speaker 4: Who's that with you?

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Speaker 1: I said, I'd bring Cheryl along.

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Speaker 2: You get that sluck out of my house and off

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my property.

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Speaker 1: Barbara put that gun away. Run Cheryl, run, give me

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the gun. Barbara, I'll give you what you deserve.

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Speaker 2: You cheating, lying?

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Speaker 1: No, you're wrong? Are you crazy?

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Speaker 7: Whoa who?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: I'd knucked down behind the lawn tractor in the garden tools.

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Even with the headlights on, I couldn't see anything. All

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I knew was there was a a second shot, and

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that Barbara had been hit. I went to a right away.

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Speaker 6: Was the gun sill in your hand?

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Speaker 1: Well? What gun?

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Speaker 6: Someone shot your wife?

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Speaker 5: If it wasn't you. Are you suggesting it was Miss Stafford?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I I mean, well I don't. I didn't even know

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where Miss Stafford was at the time.

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Speaker 6: I see.

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Speaker 7: So you went to your wife and what happened?

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Speaker 1: Barbara? Are you all right?

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Speaker 6: And did she reply?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 1: She s she said, I I love you. I should've

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listened to you. Take care of the children.

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Speaker 6: Your son and daughter, yes, who were not home at

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this time.

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Speaker 1: No, they were away at school.

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Speaker 6: There was no one in the house.

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Speaker 1: Yes, uh uh a maid or miss Kenelm. I could

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hear her moving and I imagine calling a police.

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Speaker 6: And then what happened?

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Speaker 1: I panicked?

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you did. What did you do? In your panic?

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Speaker 1: Ran down the hill to the parking lot where.

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Speaker 7: You found Miss Stafford waiting for you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, with the gun? What gun?

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Speaker 7: A gun that shot your wife?

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Speaker 1: Cheryl had no gun?

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Speaker 7: Then you had it. What did you do with it?

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Speaker 4: Your honor?

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Speaker 1: The district attorney is obviously trying to put words into

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the mouth of the defendants.

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Speaker 2: Not quite, mister Justin. But I do feel mister Hermann,

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you have not established the existence of the gun up

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to this place.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I say, it doesn't matter your honor.

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Speaker 5: The bullet that lodged in missus Rand's heart has established

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that such a gun existed.

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Speaker 6: You're witness, mister Justin.

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Speaker 1: Mister Grant, I beg your pardon, Doctor Grant. Can I

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take you back for a moment to the night of

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May the fourteenth? Would you be good enough to tell

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the court what took place at your home on Ventura Boulevard.

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Both my wife and myself were away. It was miss

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Trenham the major night out we were robbed. Now I

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have here a certified list from the insurance company of

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all the things that were taken, the stereo equipment, TV sets, jewelry,

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et cetera. Among those items is one very relevant one

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was a thirty eight caliber police positive revolver also removed. Yes, sir,

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and did you immediately, in the course of the insurance

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investigation notify the police of that fact? I did? And

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did you subsequently seek a license for a new gun

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of any sort? Not for myself. By that time, I

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was in the course of separating from my wife, since

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she was afraid of being in the house alone. I

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arranged to get one for her and have it licensed.

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The thirty two, which is an exhibit here and with

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which she fired the bullet at me? And you have

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no knowledge who might have fired the bullet that killed

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your wife? No, sir, could it have been miss Stafford?

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Why would you suggest that your wife was shot on

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the back You were facing her, were you not? Yes?

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But good Lord, Cheryl was sketted death of firearms. She

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didn't know anything about gun. She's the last person who

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could have been responsible for my wife's death. I have

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no further questions, thank you, doctor.

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Speaker 2: But there were the DA went after doctor grant on redirect,

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tooth and nail and.

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Speaker 4: Worse than that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've been around court long enough to know that

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when Cheryl Stafford got understand she was in for help.

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Most of all, I couldn't understand JC. If you work

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for a man long enough, love him too much like me,

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and you know too much about him not to know

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he wasn't putting out his best effort here.

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Speaker 1: I called him on it, Alexandra, don't ask questions. That's

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my business.

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Speaker 2: I get the put down, and he can you call

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me Alexandra?

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Speaker 4: Oh, but I can't let it go, JC.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, now, Look we're skating on a

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lot of thin ice, and I am supposed to be advocate,

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not judge. Now, why don't you just leave me be

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and let what is to be to take its natural course.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you think your clients are guilty, do you.

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Speaker 1: It's a basic rule to try and consider my client's innocent.

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Speaker 4: Oh but the way things are going, you're going and lose.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a very absolute term.

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Speaker 2: It's the way it's going. Like well, if things go now,

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one of them killed missus Grant well, and since she

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was shot in the back, it's Sheriff's scattered. But it's

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still collusion and both of them are guilty.

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Speaker 1: That's the way it may look, my love, but not

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enough hard facts to pin it down. That should worry

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al Hermann, But you notice that it doesn't. He still

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has something big to hit us with in this case.

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So let's go grab some dinner.

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Speaker 4: In some personal life, Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I wonder about you whether you care about winning,

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no about how you win, and if it's right that you.

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Speaker 1: Do, Sandy, you have to make your own judgments on that,

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like anyone else. Everything in its time. Let's wait until

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all the cards are in. As J. Carr Justin knows

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from experience, there is no drama more tense, more uncertain

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in its outcome than the arena of the courtroom, And

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no theater in which the incredible surprise, the shocking factor

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that follows. No law dramaturgy simply pops up to turn

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upside down all the facts which you've gone before. So,

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ladies and gentlemen of the jury, it will be with

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some startling new evidence that I return with Act three.

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Everyone in the trial, of course, was waiting for the

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appearance of the fam fatal, the other woman, Cheryl Stafford.

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But before her appearance, the surprise witness suddenly appeared on

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the chair, a witness guilelessly entered, used by Cheryl's brother

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who was testifying as a character reference for his sister,

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a witness named William Aliisius Brodie.

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Speaker 2: It's not often Ja car Justin is blindsided. At this

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time he was, and the BA had said his trap. Well,

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William Brody was a complete surprise to us.

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Speaker 4: And to the jury.

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Speaker 2: Just listened to the unflappable muscleman on the stand.

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Speaker 4: In the midst of the.

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Speaker 5: Story he had to tell, mister Brody, you actually discussed murder.

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Speaker 6: With Cheryl Stafford.

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Speaker 5: You called him ma'am and she named the victim.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, his grand name.

475
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,559
Speaker 5: Well, I must admit that I'm caught a little out

476
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:49,640
of my death here. But uh, would you describe in

477
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,200
your own words just what you mean?

478
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,039
Speaker 1: Well, it's no big deal. Like I say, I'm at

479
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:58,599
this party and the kid I know named Stafford gives

480
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,039
me the big intro to his sister here her, So

481
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,039
who's gonna back off? She's a real good looking dame.

482
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,920
And one thing leads to another, and I get an

483
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,359
invite to come up to her apartment like the next night?

484
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,519
Did you go? Why not? What kind of guy pass

485
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:15,799
it up?

486
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,599
Speaker 6: Please? Continue?

487
00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: You? Sorry? Well, I rigged myself out in some fancy

488
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,599
threads figure, and this is a score, and I ain't

489
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,079
got no reason to change my mind. When she opens

490
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:29,000
the door, I mean, she's, like you say, undressed for action,

491
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,240
and a welcome sign is out. It's a big hello,

492
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,960
a big drink, and this kid is I think the

493
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,799
picture is graphic enough. I suppose you just tell us

494
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:42,119
simply and directly what happened?

495
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,519
Speaker 3: Can I get you some more to drink?

496
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: Uh? No, babe, I'm closing easy now. Your kid brother

497
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:52,880
told me you want to favor Uh, that's right. Try me,

498
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,559
I deliver.

499
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: Supposing I wish to tell you I want someone I

500
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:03,440
I mean I I want someone out of the way.

501
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,599
Speaker 1: Out of the way you mean total wiped up, I

502
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,079
mean killed dead. Okay, you don't have to draw pictures,

503
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:17,200
just name numbers. How much?

504
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,279
Speaker 3: Say two thousand dollars?

505
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,359
Speaker 7: Oh?

506
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:24,319
Speaker 1: Oh, you gotta be kidding. I wouldn't touch it for

507
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,119
under a five.

508
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:25,759
Speaker 7: I haven't.

509
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:29,319
Speaker 3: I I mean I don't think I could raise that much.

510
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,599
Speaker 1: Uh, who's a pigeon anyway?

511
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: But if I tell you can make a deal. Three

512
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,319
thousand is my top figure. It's all I've got, all

513
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,039
I can get.

514
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: Mm. So we got a deal. Give me a name.

515
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: Her name is Grant, Barbara Grant. She's married to my

516
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,720
ex boss. But it wouldn't be hard. They're separated and

517
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,720
she lived alone.

518
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,599
Speaker 1: So lay the bread on me. Two thound, advanced third

519
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,599
on delivery.

520
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:00,599
Speaker 4: And you.

521
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 5: Actually contracted to kill missus Grant.

522
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: You kid, this was all con as far as I

523
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:13,200
was concerned.

524
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 6: Did she pay the money?

525
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:17,279
Speaker 1: I took the money and blew. I was only doing

526
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:18,599
her kid brother a favor.

527
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,839
Speaker 6: But you took money and promised a killing.

528
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: Look her that. Cheryl Stafford says, to me, missus Grant

529
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,000
has given us a bad time, causing us a lot

530
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,880
of grief. If you don't take care of her, Sam

531
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,400
will have to do it himself. So I wanted to

532
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,480
make her feel better.

533
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 5: And when the date came, you were supposed to deliver

534
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:42,200
what happened? When nothing happened.

535
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,359
Speaker 1: I gave it the wide eyed I said, I took

536
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,599
her out with a shotgun in the chest and I

537
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,440
hit her behind the convent.

538
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 6: That was her reaction.

539
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: I never saw her so happy. Then she calls us

540
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:58,079
doctor Grant. He levels with her. His wife is still

541
00:30:58,119 --> 00:30:59,200
alive and kicking.

542
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:01,079
Speaker 6: What was Stafford's reaction?

543
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: She said, you must have shot somebody else.

544
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 5: And you said, maybe I'd go if I made the wrong.

545
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Hit, I'll go back and do it again, but I

546
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,079
need more money, And Miss Stafford said, there isn't any

547
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:17,319
more money this time. We'll handle it by ourselves.

548
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:21,559
Speaker 6: Thank you, mister Roddy. No more questions, your witness, counselor.

549
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: Ah no, mister Hummon, not mine. You turned over your

550
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,839
own rock to produce this spec.

551
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: You know better than to make a remark like that.

552
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: Counselor, my mind.

553
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: Does your honor?

554
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:35,079
Speaker 7: My throat?

555
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: Just throw it up involuntarily?

556
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,119
Speaker 2: Are you courting in this trial by exhibiting prejudice towards

557
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,680
a witness?

558
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:42,039
Speaker 1: My apologies to the court.

559
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:44,599
Speaker 2: Do you intend to cross examine?

560
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,559
Speaker 1: I think not, your honor, I would prefer to wait

561
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,920
from the Stafford side of the story. Oh, perhaps just

562
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:52,200
one or two questions?

563
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:54,279
Speaker 2: Who the witness is yours?

564
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: Would you repeat your name? Please? Uh? Brody? William Brody,

565
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:03,160
William Aloisius Brodie?

566
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah?

567
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But like man I dropped the middle go

568
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,480
around in high school, you also drop your other names?

569
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,079
What other names? Or? Don't be alarmed if you have

570
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:15,200
any aliases? I don't know about them. I just mean

571
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,720
the various public nicknames that people have hung on you,

572
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,559
such as dream Man and the treasure check. I can't

573
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:22,920
cool it?

574
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,519
Speaker 7: Will you cool it?

575
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: Man? Everybody has his own bag. I like to build

576
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:28,920
up the body right, anything wrong in that? To each

577
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,599
his own? By the way, what did you say, uh

578
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,880
that you do for living in mister brodian? I did

579
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,960
would you now this? Man?

580
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:38,279
Speaker 4: You know?

581
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 7: Man?

582
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: I hang loose snow big deal?

583
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: Oh?

584
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:43,279
Speaker 1: I think you much too modest, mister Brodie. I have

585
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:53,519
here a list dance hall, bouncer, Hill candy butcher, beach boy.

586
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,319
But I don't mean all of these. I mean you're

587
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,400
real profession since Jiggelow and ladies man man or a

588
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,799
little out of style, what shall recall you a professional?

589
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: Project a sustain strike That last sentence from the record,

590
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:14,559
mister Justin, I am tempted to find you in contempt

591
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:18,079
of court. You know you cannot discredit a witness without

592
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:19,079
objective proof.

593
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: You're on our respectfully, it is my contention that the

594
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:25,279
witness has already discredited himself, and when I bring miss

595
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:27,880
Stafford to the stand, he will be even further discredited.

596
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,519
Speaker 2: So at last it was the defense's turn, and finally

597
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:41,680
Sheryl Stafford was on the stand, small and slight, very

598
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,759
pretty in her quiet way, somehow defenseless to try to

599
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:50,000
puncture the obvious effects she had on the audience in jury.

600
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:53,079
The DA tore into her mercilessly.

601
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:55,799
Speaker 5: And you are not ashamed to face the woman whose

602
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,960
husband you had stolen.

603
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: No, Sam, doctor had already left his wife before I,

604
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,640
before we fell in love.

605
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 7: Why didn't you drive straight up to the house?

606
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: Would Sam explain that.

607
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,199
Speaker 5: You didn't use that way to approach the house with

608
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,079
the object of surprising Missus Grant.

609
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,639
Speaker 3: Why should we she was expecting us.

610
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,559
Speaker 6: To discuss divorce.

611
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 5: Yes, then will you tell me why it was necessary

612
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:21,280
for doctor Grant to take his bag up to the

613
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:21,920
house with him.

614
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,639
Speaker 6: He wasn't making a house call, was he?

615
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: No?

616
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:29,039
Speaker 5: But rather well, now, were you aware that that bag contained,

617
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:33,159
along with the expected items you might think of, a

618
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,719
hank of rope, rubber gloves, a butcher's knife, and a

619
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,559
box of cartridges, perhaps even a gun, which was missing,

620
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:41,320
of course, by the time the police.

621
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 7: Found the bag abandoned in the garage.

622
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,199
Speaker 5: Wouldn't you say that was less a doctor's bag than

623
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,719
a murder objection?

624
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:48,679
Speaker 6: I let draw a question.

625
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:54,159
Speaker 5: Now, let's skip to the moment Missus Grant arrives and

626
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,079
takes out a gun and fires at her husband.

627
00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 7: What did you do?

628
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 3: I ran just as hard as I could, this the

629
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,360
way Sam told me to.

630
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,519
Speaker 5: And did you stop to see what was happening before

631
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,159
and at the moment the fatal shot was fired?

632
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,679
Speaker 7: Did doctor Grant run? And doc?

633
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,119
Speaker 5: Could someone else have approached and fired the shot into

634
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:14,039
Missus Grant's back?

635
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:14,599
Speaker 3: I don't know.

636
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,639
Speaker 7: I only you admit the possibility.

637
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:18,039
Speaker 6: Can't you?

638
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 5: Perhaps even a probability that it could have been you

639
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,519
who returned and fired that fatal shot to protect your

640
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:27,800
lover and to carry out the scheme you were both

641
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,639
agreed upon before you went there that evening of the

642
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:33,719
twenty ninth, to kill the only thing that stood in

643
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,440
the way of your happiness and your future. Since you

644
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:40,239
couldn't hire someone successfully to kill her, didn't you and

645
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,960
doctor Grant, by one means or another, carry out her

646
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:43,719
death sentence?

647
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: Your Felmo. The coil of rope was only some left

648
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,840
over line that doctor Grant had used to secure a

649
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,440
bumper on his boat. Yes, and the so called butcher

650
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:02,519
knife was a simple kitchen or purpose knife which doctor

651
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:04,840
Grant had bought because you needed it to cut bread

652
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,119
and prepared salads and so on.

653
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 3: Yes, it wasn't even that big.

654
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: Couldn't be less important. And the rubber gloves, I think,

655
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,960
of course, are self explanatory. Just one question, why did

656
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,639
he lug that bag up the hill?

657
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: Because when he talked to his wife she said she

658
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,440
was having her migraine headaches again. He thought he might

659
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,760
have something to relieve them.

660
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to another shield for a moment.

661
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,199
You've heard the testimony of William Brody I have was

662
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,079
he telling the truth?

663
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: Mister Brodie is a liar. If you want the real

664
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,599
truth of what happened in our interview.

665
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: Here it is well here I am babe. Let's break

666
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,639
out the booze and get the party gone.

667
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,679
Speaker 3: This is no party, mister Brodie. You were recommended to

668
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,480
me by my brother.

669
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 7: Call on me.

670
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,559
Speaker 1: I delivered.

671
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed about this. I don't quite know how to

672
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:54,760
say it.

673
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, don't run a fever. I'll lay it out.

674
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,199
You want a dame compromised enough to make a kiss

675
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,000
for her husband to sue for divorce.

676
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm ashamed to say you're right.

677
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: And could run in a real dough. You know who's

678
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,280
the name.

679
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:08,679
Speaker 3: Her name is Grant.

680
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,159
Speaker 7: She lives alone.

681
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: She's gonna run five big one.

682
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,079
Speaker 3: Five thousand. I haven't got that much. Three thousands is

683
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:19,840
the best the most I could raise.

684
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: No, okay, if that's what the traffic will bear. You

685
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:32,000
got a deal. You paid him, yes, but he just

686
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:36,400
took the money without delivering. You hated what you felt

687
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,280
you had to do, didn't you?

688
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:37,519
Speaker 3: Oh?

689
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: Yes, then how could you have done it? Attempt to

690
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,960
compromise a woman as decent.

691
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,599
Speaker 3: And vulnerable as you are, because Barbara Grant wasn't like

692
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:51,400
that at all. She was cold and hard and calculating.

693
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,920
She didn't want Sam for herself. She was just determined

694
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,239
that no other woman should have him. She hadn't allowed

695
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,920
him to touch in over two years. She wasn't a woman,

696
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,199
just the machine. Look, that was the only way Sam

697
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,400
could get his freedom. I was willing to take it

698
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,360
because he's the gentlest, kindest man of the world. I

699
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:15,880
love him.

700
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: One more question? Did you shoot Barbara Grant? Mister justin?

701
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even know how to fire or gun?

702
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,679
Speaker 1: Thank you, Miss Stafford. The defense rests.

703
00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:37,199
Speaker 2: The Jerry's been out three hours, JC.

704
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 4: What do you think.

705
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: Mostly at a time like this, I try not to.

706
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: Oh, I wish I could make my mind a blank.

707
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: Why?

708
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,599
Speaker 4: Because I love you and I don't know why you

709
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,559
took this case.

710
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,679
Speaker 2: Now, and don't give me the lawyer's ETHX line again.

711
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,400
Everyone is entitled to a defense. You know he's guilty

712
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:55,840
as health?

713
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: Do I? Yes? And how do I feel about her?

714
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: Well, that's not so easy.

715
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:06,679
Speaker 1: Excuse me. Yeah, they're coming out, Okay, we'll be right there.

716
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Speaker 2: Did Jerry has a verdict?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 2: What do you think it'll be?

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Speaker 1: All right, Ladies and gentlemen of the radio jury, what

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was your verdict? Was a stolen gun just a cover

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for doctor Grant to have a weapon to kill his wife?

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Did they struggle so that she was shot in the back?

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Did Cheryl fire the fatal shot? Or did the incredible

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mister Brodie decide to earn his money by coincidence that evening,

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it's your decision who killed Barbara Grant? I might add

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that this was an actual case, only the names and

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some locations changed, so you were guessing at an actual result.

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Speaker 4: A hung Jerry, Ah, then you've lost.

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Speaker 1: Well, it depends on the point. Now he conned me

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into representing both of them. I had to fight for

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doctor Grant as hard as I could to save a trusting,

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if stupid little girl who gave her love not wisely

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but to will.

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Speaker 4: But he say to her, you got him off.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no no. They'll be trying again, this time separately,

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and this time I will represent only one, Miss Stafford.

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Without her as a shield, he'll be convicted. She won't

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get out of the clean. We all have to pay

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for mistakes, but at least she won't have to share

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the death chamber with him. Three months later, doctor Grant

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broke on the stand and admitted that he had taken

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advantage of the robbery at his house to pretend the

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gun was one of the articles stolen. He had had

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it with him in the murder kit bag, and in

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struggling with his wife as she had turned to flee,

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he had deliberately shot and killed her. He got life imprisonment.

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Cheryl was convicted as an unwitting accessory after the fact.

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She was sentenced to a two year term, but released

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on probation on the basis of the facts. Would your

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verdict have been the same? I'll be back shortly. How

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does a nice young woman like that get mixed up

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with a man like doctor Samuel Grant? One of the

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oldest questions in the world, which people have been trying

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to answer since time began. A few of them love

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is blind. Two are more than woman to be wise

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or perhaps to wind things up. A quote from mister Thackeray.

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Every single woman I ever knew is a puzzle to me,

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as I have no doubt she is to herself. With

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no apologies to women's lib It's the way of the world.

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Our cast included Mendel Kramer, Leon Janny Ken, Harvey, E. V. Jester,

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Joan Shay, and Earl Hammond. The entire production was under

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the direction of Hyman Brown.

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Speaker 5: Radio.

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Speaker 1: Mystery Theater was sponsored in part by Anheuser Busch Incorporated,

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brewers of Budweiser.

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Speaker 5: This is E. G.

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Speaker 1: Marshall inviting you to return to our Mystery Theater for

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another adventure in the macabre. Until next time, Pleasant Dreams.

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Tonight's Mystery Theater was brought to you in part by

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