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<v Speaker 1>All right, what's up everyone, and welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Biblical hit Man. I'm your host, Steven. I'm here with Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Taylor in the house. Joining us yet again

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<v Speaker 1>is Justin aka Doc Brown, the host of the Prometheus

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Prometheus Lens podcast forgive me for that, and the

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<v Speaker 1>author of the Epic of Esau, which we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into today. Super excited for it. Long waited. And folks,

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<v Speaker 1>smash that subscribe button. Like the show, share with your friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and drop a comment down below about what you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the episode. Also, you can check us on audio.

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<v Speaker 1>You can check us on speaker, Apple podcast and Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>But justin, welcome to the show man.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man, thank you for having me back. Man. Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's good to have you back on. Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for all the little hiccups in the beginning there, but

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<v Speaker 1>super excited man to have you on. You've been busy, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>You've been busy. You've been jumping around on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of shows going over you know your your book, tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about it. And where the audience

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<v Speaker 1>can find you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Man, I actually I always go too hard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like go hard to go home. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>never go home. I finished the books I just started.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, man, I just start going out

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<v Speaker 2>on all these shows and kind of promote the book.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can handle you know, two or three recordings

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<v Speaker 2>a day, three or four days a week. Yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just get it over with. Oh about kill me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>winding down now, right range down as I used to

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<v Speaker 2>be forty now.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it's crazy. It's crazy, you know. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of work you put into thing, especially having you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a nine to five job right like pretty much all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. It is a lot of work. Man. I

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<v Speaker 1>give I give a lot of credit to you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of respect for what you do

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<v Speaker 1>and all the hours and editing and you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>content creating right in general. It takes a lot out

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<v Speaker 1>of you. And you know, it's it's awesome. Man. Your

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<v Speaker 1>book is awesome as well. I've read it about one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half times, if that makes any sense. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fun read, folks. It's uh, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting takes in it as well. I really enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>how you kind of created a foundation, you know, at first,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you came in with the final act, which

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<v Speaker 1>I love books that kind of build you up for that, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you don't mind just telling the audience a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about yourself and where they can find your

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<v Speaker 1>shows and websites and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, names Justin Brown. I'm just a nine to five

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<v Speaker 2>knuckle dragger man, just like everybody else. Go to work,

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<v Speaker 2>come home, pay my bills. But I've always been a

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<v Speaker 2>history nerd and a Bible nerd, and around twenty twelve

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<v Speaker 2>got red pilled and started finding all this cool, fascinating,

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<v Speaker 2>supernatural and weird stuff in the Biblical text. And once

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<v Speaker 2>I started seeing all this stuff, I started making connections

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<v Speaker 2>with all these other historical events and ancient mythology. And

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<v Speaker 2>I always loved that stuff. So I just started connecting

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<v Speaker 2>all these dots, man, And once I started doing it, it

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<v Speaker 2>just confirmed my faith and solidified it. It excited me

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<v Speaker 2>and drew me closer to God, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>share that with other people. I was like, if I

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<v Speaker 2>get this excited about it and think this is so fascinating,

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<v Speaker 2>surely there are others that share this passion with me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just started doing some podcasts with some friends

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<v Speaker 2>and that ended up branching out to do my own

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<v Speaker 2>solo show. Uh. Instead of just looking at the Bible,

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at ancient history, mythology, los civilizations, cryptids, all

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<v Speaker 2>those fascinating subjects that we love to dive down and

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<v Speaker 2>just filter them to a biblical lens. And that show

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<v Speaker 2>was the Prometheus Lens Podcast. It's just a little over

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<v Speaker 2>a year old now, and that led to me writing

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<v Speaker 2>my first book, The Epic of Esau, The Birthright and

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<v Speaker 2>Seed War. But anywhere you can consume content, man, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify, YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>all those fine establishments. Any where you can consume that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, you can find me to search up

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<v Speaker 2>Prometheus Lens podcast, and the same for all the socials.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm usually putting out two or three reels a day

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<v Speaker 2>and keeping you guys with some good infotainment.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, man, What was it like? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the journey like writing it? You know.

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<v Speaker 4>What was that like?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly it was. It was weird, but of course I

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<v Speaker 2>have nothing to judge it by. Uh it's my first one.

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<v Speaker 2>But I started finding all this cool stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought it would be a cool podcast at first.

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<v Speaker 2>So I reached out to my buddy Bo Kennedy from

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<v Speaker 2>The Bump podcast and was like, hey, man, I found this,

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<v Speaker 2>this and this and this is like the first few

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<v Speaker 2>little things that I found. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it'd be a pretty cool podcast. You want to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talk about it? And he was like, oh, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be awesome. You know, what do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call the show? And I was like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>let me think about it. He come back, He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what i'd call it. I'd call it the

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<v Speaker 2>Epic of Esau because I was making correlations with the

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<v Speaker 2>Epic of Gilgamesh at that at that point in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, hell, yeah, dude, that's awesome. Run

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<v Speaker 2>with that, and uh pretty.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, it's a great, great book title.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely couldn't take credit for it, but uh

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<v Speaker 2>and the show just blew up, man. And it was honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>like in November and Bo's been podcasting for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like five.

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<v Speaker 4>Or six years.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's built a good you know, following, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was funny like around uh uh, I think it's it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be in January because it's at the start

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<v Speaker 2>of the new year. But he reached out to me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, hey, man, I just got my wrapped stats

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<v Speaker 2>from Spotify. He said. You're not gonna believe this, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, your episode was only like two three months

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<v Speaker 2>into the year, he said, but it made my top

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<v Speaker 2>five for the year in downloads. That's awesome. And I

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<v Speaker 2>had and I had all kinds of people reaching out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, dude, you should write a book. Hey dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you should write a book. And I just had so

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<v Speaker 2>many people reach out and talk about how fascinating that

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<v Speaker 2>show was and how I should do a book. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hell, I'll try to write a book.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted to. And honestly, the first sit down,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I plowed through like six chapters in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I mean, yeah, you're locked in.

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<v Speaker 2>And then after that it's like it just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I hit like a writer's block or just lost inspiration.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so I would find something cool, I'd write

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<v Speaker 2>a chapter, a couple of weeks would go by, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd write another chapter. So and then it strung out

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<v Speaker 2>and I started doing shows talking to people about the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff I was finding, kind of like in lifetime, as

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<v Speaker 2>I was finding this stuff, and it strung out for

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<v Speaker 2>just a little shy of two years to get it

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<v Speaker 2>all finished. But like I said, the last few months

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<v Speaker 2>of this past year, I told myself, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple weeks off from work for Christmas break. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been going around for the past year talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this book, and everybody's asking me when's it coming, when's

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<v Speaker 2>it coming? I was like, I have to just focus

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<v Speaker 2>get this thing done, man. So that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Just my my Christmas break that I had two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>off work, I just pounded the rest of it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, folks, If you're not familiar, you know Doc Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably one of the main proponents for like talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Bigfoot in the Bible and making some connections there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I haven't been in the community that long

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<v Speaker 1>to really tell who's you know, been talking about what,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I remember listening to you on the

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<v Speaker 1>Tinfoil podcast. It's had to be maybe two years ago

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<v Speaker 1>now or something, probably in the middle when you were

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<v Speaker 1>writing the book and you were talking about the Sauce

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<v Speaker 1>story with Jacob, and you know, I reread it again, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like going through your book and it's a very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>story story, right, and knowing how the church is today,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel with the idea of making a comparison with

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot and Esau that the churches, you know, they look

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<v Speaker 1>at as a heretical right, like like heresy almost right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so what's that like? Have you had any like

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<v Speaker 1>backlash or anything like that or or you know, anyone

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<v Speaker 1>one kind of you know, I'm trying to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>you're wrong or this or that. You know how the

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<v Speaker 1>church is, So it's kind of it's tough. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see, you know, what you've interacted with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, of course. I mean I've had some

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<v Speaker 2>people you know that are you know, open minded and

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<v Speaker 2>willing to entertain, you know, new ideas and new thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that really praise the brook book and say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like when you go to Amazon and look

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<v Speaker 2>at my reviews, uh, which the book's done awesome. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's one thing I want to say, God's blessed that thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean I'm a nobody, you know, a small podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>never wrote a book. And I told myself, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I sell a hundred copies, that's my goal. If

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<v Speaker 2>I sell one hundred copies, dude, I'll be tickled pink.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be happy with that. I sold one hundred copies

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<v Speaker 2>within the first week.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But so it's working on five hundred now, I yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh. But by reviews, you know, you encourage everybody

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<v Speaker 2>that buys it to give a review. Most people don't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But I'm guilty of that myself. But there's like,

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<v Speaker 2>last time I looked there, it's like maybe fifteen or

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen reviews, but a large majority of them that I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed says if basically along this lines, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you are comfortable in your theology and you think you

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<v Speaker 2>got the answers and you got it figured out, don't

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<v Speaker 2>read this book. I don't enjoy this book open minded.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're open minded and you're willing to entertain new

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<v Speaker 2>ideas and have yourself stretched and learn new things. And

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<v Speaker 2>even one person said, if you're ready to hold the

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<v Speaker 2>skeleton key to unlock the rest of Scripture and realize

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<v Speaker 2>how little you know, you're gonna thoroughly enjoy this book.

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<v Speaker 4>Common Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was happy with that, but yeah, but I've had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people pushback. Of course, the Bigfoot community.

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<v Speaker 2>insinuating that it that it's spiritual. Fo yeah, exactly. And

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<v Speaker 2>then h And of course I've had some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really closed mind with Christians, you know, say, oh, that's laughable,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and that was hyperbole, that was poetic language,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and things like that. But honestly, the most

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<v Speaker 2>pushback that I've gotten and being called a heretic and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>getting some people tore up is one chapter. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen chapter book, but I have one chapter on the

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<v Speaker 1>little bit with like Paul and be like, hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>back then to a whole serpentcyed thing. I tend to believe,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, beguiled, it had some sexual nature to

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<v Speaker 3>it's not some Sunday school like oh kids, yeah, Adam

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<v Speaker 1>up like it's untouchable. It's it is the perfect and

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<v Speaker 1>It actually went on for like an hour. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would dig deeper into the Hebrew, you know, roots

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<v Speaker 1>example Genesis six, right, and and relating that to to

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<v Speaker 1>that other side. And they were like, oh, Hebrew's like uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, massively misinterpreted. And I'm like, what how there's Hebrews,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, scholars, there's Hebrew. Yeah, people that study the language.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been I get it. It's a very old language,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, pretty accurate. So but so Doc you

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<v Speaker 1>you I love how you went through your book, man,

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<v Speaker 1>And kind of where I'd like to start is going

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<v Speaker 1>through like the cultural connections with Bigfoot in our society today,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in our world. And the thing you kind

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<v Speaker 1>open that up for us, and uh, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun thing to get into because yeah, it's massively

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<v Speaker 2>So and honestly, man, I'm glad and thankful that you said,

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<v Speaker 2>and all that because Honestly, that was my intention. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to assume that people knew the backstory

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<v Speaker 2>of Bigfoot, and with that, the people that are not

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<v Speaker 2>big Bigfoot enthusiasts, I wanted to give them kind of

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<v Speaker 2>traditions and you know, quote unquote mythos and stories and

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<v Speaker 2>legends talk about this wild man and if we take

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<v Speaker 2>the context of that wild man, all the descripting factors,

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<v Speaker 2>what it does, all the stories, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>stack them beside our modern term Bigfoot and show them

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<v Speaker 2>that this is the same thing, this is the same

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<v Speaker 2>entity or creature. And so I wanted to lay that

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<v Speaker 2>foundation and build up this house from the bottom. And

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<v Speaker 2>that was honestly my whole intention of that. But one

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<v Speaker 2>of the resources that I used that I found really

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<v Speaker 2>good because I was never a real big Bigfoot enthusiast,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I had the general thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>foot view of what Bigfoot was and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was not one of these guys that was

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<v Speaker 2>well versed in Bigfoot and heard all the testimonies and

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<v Speaker 2>stories and listened to the Bigfoot podcasts and read all

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<v Speaker 2>the literature, and I was not one of those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>so this was kind of a learning experience for me

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<v Speaker 2>as well. But I went through because my big thing

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<v Speaker 2>stuff knows that I love comparative mythology. I'm a firm believer.

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<v Speaker 2>If you see the same type of story throughout the world,

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<v Speaker 2>throughout time, throughout culture, I'm not a coincidence theorist. There

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<v Speaker 2>has to be some kind of truth rooted into those

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<v Speaker 2>stories or a while, did it transcend the globe and

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<v Speaker 2>time and all these cultures, right, because there has to

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<v Speaker 2>be something to it, absolutely, And that's what I found

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<v Speaker 2>digging through this. But it was called by many different names.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's going through many different times, many different

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<v Speaker 2>cultures and tongues and cultural lenses. So I just started

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<v Speaker 2>looking for common themes. I started looking for wild men

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<v Speaker 2>or hairy men or beasts, you know, and things like

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<v Speaker 2>that that matched these descripting factors, and I did. I

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<v Speaker 2>found it everywhere. When you go to China, they called

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<v Speaker 2>it the urine. It was this hairy monster beast creature

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<v Speaker 2>that was humanoid and was intelligent and roamed the woods

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<v Speaker 2>and people had encounters with it, and it would sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it was benevolent, sometimes it was evil, and it would

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<v Speaker 2>raid people's houses and villages and take their animals and

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<v Speaker 2>eat their animals and livestock. When you go into Europe,

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<v Speaker 2>they called it the wood wofts or the wild man right,

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<v Speaker 2>and the same thing. They were covered in hair. They

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<v Speaker 2>raid towns, steal livestock, kill livestock, and even abduct women

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<v Speaker 2>and rape women. And they would give birth to these

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<v Speaker 2>little hairy beasts. And you go to the Americas, you

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<v Speaker 2>have bigfoot, that's the modern term. The Native Americans called

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<v Speaker 2>it EASTI, popeye, and all these other different names. And

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<v Speaker 2>just the natives called them. Yeah, And then you have

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<v Speaker 2>the harried six fingered giant legends of the Native Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>and they call them the city car. They were huge

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<v Speaker 2>giants covered in hair, red hair, with six fingers and

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<v Speaker 2>six toes. So I used to.

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<v Speaker 5>Build little pits too for them, like they used to

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<v Speaker 5>go after them and then have spike pits like ANTAGONI

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<v Speaker 5>that and that's how they would kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's crazy. I even think what like the Celts

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<v Speaker 1>and the Druids, right, and their traditions with that too.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the tradition where they celebrate in the street. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like a parade of like, yeah, the demonic Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you go into Sardinia, uh, the island of

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<v Speaker 2>Sardinia during the winter solstice, they have this thing and

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<v Speaker 2>the Methans, and these guys dress up, they cover themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in black goats fur, and they dance and parade through

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<v Speaker 2>the town with hundreds of copper bells strapped to their backs.

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<v Speaker 2>And while they do this, they chase the women. And

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<v Speaker 2>then so you go up into Europe, Uh, you have Crampus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's this hairy beast covered in hair and he abducts children.

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<v Speaker 2>And then even a lot of the Christmas cards and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>you see he's also sexually promiscuous, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these wild men stories and wild men fertility gods. There's

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<v Speaker 2>lots of Christmas cards that you find, uh, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>like erotic in nature, where crampis not only comes into

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<v Speaker 2>discipline the bad children, He'll discipline the bad women too.

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<v Speaker 2>And it shows women waiting up in lingerie while their

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<v Speaker 2>and pulling out his whip, and she's looking like she's

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Oh man, it is wild, all the traditions

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<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. And I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be a phenomenon that's been going on for

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<v Speaker 4>Yeap, very long time. Doc, what's your what's your take on?

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<v Speaker 4>Soorr'd to interrupt you, Steve, what's your take on? Like

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<v Speaker 4>not catching them? I mean, I've seen some trail cam

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<v Speaker 4>footage and trail cam pictures that look pretty convincing, but

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<v Speaker 4>everybody always says the same thing, like Elon says the UFO,

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<v Speaker 4>they're very subtle. I haven't seen them. There's no evidence.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your take on? Like the hard to get evidence,

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<v Speaker 4>the hard to get picture evidence of Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, with that and I talk about in the book,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like we talked about. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>might've been pre roll or maybe towards the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, I can't remember, but how it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>this it's not just that it's this and that it's

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<v Speaker 2>usually a combination of things. Usually things are not that

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<v Speaker 2>cut and dry, and I think that is the case

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<v Speaker 2>with this bigfoot. Do I think there's some physicality to it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And with that that could be a lost remnant still roaming,

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<v Speaker 2>or it could be uh an interdimensional type thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you go with the context, uh, they

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<v Speaker 2>were Harry giants, and you get into the whole est

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<v Speaker 2>Sau thing Esau marries into Nephlim giant clans and breeds

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<v Speaker 2>with them. And these giant clans were from the land

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<v Speaker 2>of Mount Sier. And when you break into the etymology

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<v Speaker 2>of the Hebrew Sierra means Harry. So he marries into

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<v Speaker 2>known de Nepholim giant clans who their names identify them

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<v Speaker 2>as Harry. Anyway. Wow, And then you hear the stories

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<v Speaker 2>about the the Iraq guys. They're walking through the mountains

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<v Speaker 2>and out of this cave comes this Harry covered in hair, giant.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we see a remnant, a leftover that was

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<v Speaker 2>survived into modernity possibly, right, right, And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>and like anything DNA uh doesn't get stronger with time,

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<v Speaker 2>it dissipates and you have inner breeding and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this gene is probably alive and well through humanity today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's become so weak that it doesn't manifest

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<v Speaker 2>in higher like it used to. It's not as strong, right, And.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen over time they shrink down too, Like they

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<v Speaker 3>used to be like really really tall like, but now

422
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<v Speaker 3>they're shrinking down to like normal human like size nowadays,

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<v Speaker 3>to where you know, we can't really tell as much.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I think it's like we started out a lot

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<v Speaker 3>taller to humanity and every everything else and all the

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<v Speaker 3>nepheline where we teller it's like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge generation or a de evolution, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And when you go to the book Enoch, it

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<v Speaker 2>says that the these giants, these nephilim, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>when they die, their spirits are cursed to be demons

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<v Speaker 2>and wander the earth until the end of time until judgment.

433
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<v Speaker 2>So if these you know, bigfoot wild men Harry Farreell giants,

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<v Speaker 2>when they die, their spirits remain, and so would they

435
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<v Speaker 2>not choose a familiar form manifest And that's what we're

436
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<v Speaker 2>seeing these you know, spiritual UH entities phasing in out

437
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<v Speaker 2>of reality through portals. And the thing was too, is

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<v Speaker 2>when you go into the the biblical account Uh one

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<v Speaker 2>of the races born through this union of Esau with

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<v Speaker 2>these giants, he birthed Amelek and Amelik births the Amalekite race.

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<v Speaker 2>You break into the etymology of that name that means

442
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<v Speaker 2>the blood liquors. And when you get into Eliazar and

443
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<v Speaker 2>you get into the writings of Rashi, these these Uh

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish rabbis and their writings, they talk about that they

445
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<v Speaker 2>were known sorcerers. Oh, so you have that aspect too.

446
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<v Speaker 2>They're phasing in and out of reality. And that's why

447
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<v Speaker 2>God told his people, you know, don't leave anyone alive.

448
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<v Speaker 2>Kill every man, woman and child. And in Roshi's writings

449
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<v Speaker 2>it says because they were known sorcerers, they were known

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<v Speaker 2>shape shifters. He uses that word in his writings. They

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<v Speaker 2>were known shape shifters and and shift and shift into

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<v Speaker 2>animals to evade capture. And that's why God said kill

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<v Speaker 2>every man, woman, child.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds like a skinwalker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course. And then the thing is too, like,

456
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<v Speaker 3>you know, people get upset. They're like, well, why did

457
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<v Speaker 3>God back in those days kill like the women, men

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<v Speaker 3>and children and blah blah blah. That's why because they

459
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<v Speaker 3>weren't human period, like anymore, you know what I'm saying, Like,

460
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<v Speaker 3>there's nepheline bloodlines mixed with people who like are skinwalkers

461
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<v Speaker 3>now because you know, in order to be a skinwalker

462
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<v Speaker 3>in the native tribes at least, they had to.

463
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<v Speaker 1>Kill the person they loved the most and.

464
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<v Speaker 3>Do a whole bunch of Satanic rituals. So I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why God he has. God's ways are higher than

466
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<v Speaker 3>man's ways, so of course he knows that. But the

467
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<v Speaker 3>general populace nowadays are just like, oh, God was an

468
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<v Speaker 3>evil person and blah blah blah blah blah, he just

469
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<v Speaker 3>slaughtered everybody for this. I'm like, you got to break

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<v Speaker 3>it down and you got the answers, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>and in your book they can be like, yo, this

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense, you know absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, man. The book is for everyone, you know, like,

475
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<v Speaker 1>it's not just you know, for Christians. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a way to help Christians kind of uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be or become aware that Wow, you know, I thought

478
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<v Speaker 1>I knew what scriptures were talking about. You know, it

479
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:54.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of opens up that that light to getting you

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<v Speaker 1>to want to dig deeper in the Bible, getting you

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<v Speaker 1>to want to kind of make some connections that are

482
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<v Speaker 1>out there the world, and you know it'll help us.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It's a skull key man, because it was

484
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<v Speaker 2>a learning and experience for me as I was going

485
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<v Speaker 2>through it. It was a journey for myself. And once

486
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<v Speaker 2>I found this story, this narrative, this meta narrative inner

487
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<v Speaker 2>layered into this Bible of ours, it answered so many

488
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<v Speaker 2>ambiguous questions that I had. And I'm a guy that

489
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<v Speaker 2>has read the Bible front to back many times throughout

490
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<v Speaker 2>my whole life. I've read the ancient Biblical text. I mean,

491
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<v Speaker 2>I'm constantly in logos Bible software breaking into the Hebrew.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I ain't saying I'm anybody special, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a nerd. I'm a Bible nerd. And there was all

494
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<v Speaker 2>kinds of stuff that just left me scratching my head

495
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<v Speaker 2>that I was like, man, why why is that that

496
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<v Speaker 2>don't make sense. I mean, why would they just put

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<v Speaker 2>that there and just leave that there? That makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But once I found this stuff, man, it was it

499
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<v Speaker 2>was the skeleton key that unlocked it, and it tied

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<v Speaker 2>everything in hand in glove. So ninety percent of the

501
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<v Speaker 2>stuff that I thought was just ambiguous didn't make any

502
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<v Speaker 2>sense or left me confused. It answered all that and

503
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:16.319
<v Speaker 2>tied up so many loose sins and it completed this

504
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<v Speaker 2>what in my mind was kind of a fractured story

505
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<v Speaker 2>and made it flow like water Man from front to back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, it definitely helps with like your apologetics,

507
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<v Speaker 1>you know, like it helped me. I mean I never

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<v Speaker 1>would have had an answer for like what Taylor was

509
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<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, like the whole genocide claims right

510
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<v Speaker 1>on God, But it's important to want to figure out

511
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<v Speaker 1>the answers to these questions. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's crazy because what they teach us in you know,

513
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<v Speaker 3>basic church nowadays, like so many Christians are like way

514
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>down here and we should be knowing way more some

515
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>witches and warlocks, no more than than we do on stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not okay man. Like you know, like I

517
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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of Christians don't want to be open minded. Unfortunately,

518
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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they have a one track of mind.

519
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<v Speaker 3>It's either black or white, there's no in between.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't be like that, especially.

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<v Speaker 3>When we got the adversary or the devil, you know,

522
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.359
<v Speaker 3>looking to kill, steal and destroy and just look for

523
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<v Speaker 3>any avenue, you know, because ignorance is not bliss man.

524
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<v Speaker 3>You know, just because you don't know the stuff going on.

525
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.359
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, you know, just because you don't know

526
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<v Speaker 3>a law doesn't mean you can claim ignorance. And that's

527
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<v Speaker 3>how it is in the spirit realm, you know. So

528
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.000
<v Speaker 3>we have to be vigilant. We have to be you know,

529
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.279
<v Speaker 3>be watchful as watchmen and warn the people. And this

530
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<v Speaker 3>is exactly what God has called you to do. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe with your book, and I believe we're coming into

532
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<v Speaker 3>a time where we're living that you know, this information

533
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.319
<v Speaker 3>is becoming out there. The truth will be revealed, and

534
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 3>it's it's out there, man, like, so people can't claim

535
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.759
<v Speaker 3>ignorance no more. We got all this technology out here

536
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 3>and people can't be blinded. Now, you know, we have to.

537
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Study to show ourself approved and do the homework.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I believe your book is like a

539
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 3>huge stepping stone for Christians to kind of be like yo,

540
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.599
<v Speaker 3>just kind of step back and look at it for

541
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<v Speaker 3>what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And that makes sense certainly. It certainly makes it more

543
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<v Speaker 4>interesting than what everybody's been told. And speaking on ignorance,

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<v Speaker 4>can we can you go, doc? Can you go over

545
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<v Speaker 4>the verse where it talks about like Esau being born?

546
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<v Speaker 4>What does it say exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Esau. That's in the Genesis twenty five twenty five,

548
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the birth and it says the first one came out red,

549
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>covered in hair from head to toe like a hairy cloak.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so his name was Esau. So speaking on that verse,

551
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<v Speaker 4>I was watching a video the other day of a

552
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<v Speaker 4>young man that goes around, he's a Christian young young

553
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.759
<v Speaker 4>man and he goes around and he talks to everyone.

554
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<v Speaker 4>But he he had stumbled upon, and probably on purpose,

555
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 4>a stand a hut where the Hebrew Israelites or outside

556
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<v Speaker 4>of a college campus or whatever. And you know, they

557
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<v Speaker 4>got their microphone and they got the guide to the

558
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<v Speaker 4>next of the next to them with the Bible, and

559
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 4>he's flipping through verses and he's going and it feels

560
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<v Speaker 4>like they try to twist scripture to fit their narrative

561
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 4>and they try to say, I remember he was trying

562
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<v Speaker 4>to say that Esaw is proof, that's the Caucasian lineage.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you have any take on that? What do

564
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<v Speaker 4>you think about that?

565
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<v Speaker 3>And they think the white people are like the devil

566
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 3>because they're like, yeah, they think we're the serpent seed lines.

567
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 4>He specifically says that the Hebrews really specifically says Saw

568
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<v Speaker 4>is proof that that white man is of savage beast,

569
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<v Speaker 4>and that's where our lineage comes from. Is with what

570
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<v Speaker 4>he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you said, anybody can take any scripture. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean honestly, any intelligent person or a quick witted person

573
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<v Speaker 2>can take any scripture and twisted to what they want

574
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<v Speaker 2>and knowledge bomb you with all kinds of random stuff.

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00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 1>That sounds right.

576
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, And that's what a lot of people do. But

577
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the thing is you have to, you know, get your context.

578
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 2>You got to read the verses all the way around it.

579
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>You can't just go off that one verse. You got

580
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<v Speaker 2>to look at all the other stories with Esau and

581
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 2>whatever the subject matter is and get a fuller context.

582
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<v Speaker 2>Because people can if someone has an end goal in

583
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<v Speaker 2>mind or an idea, they can take any one sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even two and take those scriptures and just manipulate

585
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.240
<v Speaker 2>and twist that thing like a laughy taffy or a

586
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:48.079
<v Speaker 2>pretzel to make it what they want it to be.

587
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>And if you are not studying to show thyself approved

588
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.240
<v Speaker 2>and know your stuff, you can be deceived. And what

589
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 2>they do is they say, oh, he come out red.

590
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh they're talking about the rosy cheeks skin. It didn't

591
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<v Speaker 2>say rosy cheeks, it's that he was covered in red hair.

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<v Speaker 1>When I told my friend that, he was like, oh, yeah,

593
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<v Speaker 1>he's just it's just a hairy guy. I was like, no,

594
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<v Speaker 1>I'm a hairy guy. I am a hairy guy. Look

595
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:20.599
<v Speaker 1>it's from the forehead to my ankles. Look listen.

596
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.239
<v Speaker 2>And now that I even had somebody that follows me

597
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram and I ain't gonna mention names, but they

598
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:31.599
<v Speaker 2>just recently followed me. And this person is it's a

599
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<v Speaker 2>female and she is white as white can be. But

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00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter what I post doesn't matter. She has

601
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 2>a very long winded comment telling me how wrong, how

602
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 2>she's got it all figured out, and without fail, it

603
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>is the craziest off the wall stuff. At first, I

604
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 2>tried conversion with this woman and she when I posted

605
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 2>about Esau, that's what she said. She said, Nope, Esau

606
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 2>was the white race and that's the devil's seed and

607
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.480
<v Speaker 2>God's chosen people's to black people, and you know, and

608
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.480
<v Speaker 2>all this kind of stuff, and and she started throwing

609
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>out all this kind of stuff at all, and just

610
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 2>all these outlandish claims, and so I was like, okay, uh,

611
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll humor you. Uh, where's your references? You said this

612
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>this and this? Where's that at? What book? Where can

613
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I find it? Because I'm a contrarian. I'm not going

614
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>to take anybody's word for anything. I got to read

615
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 2>it for myself. Oh everybody knows, Oh there is no

616
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<v Speaker 2>reference everybody else Satan's mouth, yeah yeah, and everything I

617
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<v Speaker 2>post it's like that. And so I just finally give up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even respond to that person. But I noticed

619
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<v Speaker 2>here recently somebody that follows me. They started comment and

620
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<v Speaker 2>trying to argue with her, and it's like they'll figure

621
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<v Speaker 2>it out just after a few exchanges with this person.

622
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<v Speaker 2>But they are they're white as light can be. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what if somebody somebody said in my post, they said,

624
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 2>you're white as white can be. So are you saying

625
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<v Speaker 2>you're the serpent seed.

626
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

627
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 3>She is on that and I told him, you know,

628
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<v Speaker 3>basically this I thought John three sixteen he came for

629
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 3>all people, you know, male and female, So that includes

630
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 3>every freaking skin color racism. You can't go yeah, you know,

631
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<v Speaker 3>there's no racism in having dude like it's just so blashemos.

632
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

633
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 1>When we had brian On, he was demon racerss He

634
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>was saying, you know, you know, preach the Gospel into

635
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 1>all creatures, right, so, and it's it's like the Gospels

636
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>not just for one type of people or you know

637
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 1>call it right, oh gosh, only not us white people. Apparently.

638
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what I like to do with comments like that,

639
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>like to like it, and that's what I like it,

640
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>love it, and then take it back. They'll get like

641
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:55.559
<v Speaker 1>the notification of it, and then they go there and

642
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 1>they're like, wait, what did you know?

643
00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 4>He didn't He obviously didn't understand what I was saying.

644
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:04.840
<v Speaker 4>That's probably what they're thinking because probably, yeah, well the

645
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 4>thing is.

646
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<v Speaker 2>Too is like you have multi layered stuff, you know,

647
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 2>just like I said, it's never this or that, it's

648
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 2>usually this and that, and scriptures like an onion, it's

649
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 2>got multi layers. Do I think the story of Esau

650
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and Jacob was historically true, I think so, yeah. But

651
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.599
<v Speaker 2>do I think there is also a meta or micro narrative.

652
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I believe that one. Yeah, Like you have

653
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:38.599
<v Speaker 2>layers within layers, stories within stories. There's more, I think, yeah. So,

654
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean something might be historically true, but when the

655
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 2>writer is writing it, they add these little details and

656
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 2>caveats to pull you back to another story that's similar

657
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>and shows you another a narrative within a narrative to

658
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.920
<v Speaker 2>connect everything in a seamless line and to draw your

659
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>mind back to other things. And some scholars cause like

660
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 2>the law first mentioned, they'll use certain words to draw

661
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 2>your mind back to certain events. That way you make

662
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 2>a connection and think, oh, okay, that's connected to this

663
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:14.639
<v Speaker 2>in a meta narrative, you know. So like when you

664
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 2>have the cursing in the garden, he said, I will

665
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 2>put enmity between her seed and thy seed. He was

666
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 2>talking to her and the serpent. They both will have

667
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 2>a seed. They will be an entity with one another.

668
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Then what does he say? One will bruise one's head

669
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 2>and the other will bruise the other's heel. Right, this

670
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:39.079
<v Speaker 2>is in the Book of Genesis, and in a few chapters,

671
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just gonna say, just a few chapters later,

672
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 2>what happens. This isn't the same book. Just a few

673
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 2>chapters later, Ea Osborne, the first one comes out red,

674
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.599
<v Speaker 2>covered in hair from head to toe like a Harry cloak,

675
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:56.639
<v Speaker 2>and then the second comes out clutching the heel, and

676
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the verse before that, the Angel of the Lord comes

677
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:05.639
<v Speaker 2>to Rebecca and say, it is two nations. Two peoples

678
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 2>are within your womb, and they struggle together within you.

679
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:15.239
<v Speaker 2>There's enmity between the two. Wow, one will be stronger

680
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>than the other, but the younger will rule over the older.

681
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 2>So when Esau was born, his foot pushing on Jacob's head,

682
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>bruising the head, and Jacob reaching up clutching and bruising

683
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.719
<v Speaker 2>the heel. So it is a complete inversion and flip

684
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 2>of the prophecy and kurs given into the garden. And

685
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I speculate the book, and I say, it's a speculation

686
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 2>if Esau was a serpent seed, in which all the

687
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.119
<v Speaker 2>ancient writings pointed that they say he was born with

688
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 2>a serpent's brand, and marking that his guardian angel was

689
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:55.360
<v Speaker 2>semi l the viper of God. The angel of death

690
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.320
<v Speaker 2>that he reached in and made sure his seed come

691
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.480
<v Speaker 2>out first, because that way he would get the birth

692
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:05.519
<v Speaker 2>right and be the ruler the next in line. So

693
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the Angel Lord comes and were warned Rebecca and says, hey,

694
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I know it's customary for the first born to get

695
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 2>the birth right, but in this case, the younger is

696
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 2>going to get the birth right because we know the

697
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.320
<v Speaker 2>devil is going to go in there and try to

698
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.360
<v Speaker 2>flip the prophecy from the Garden of Genesis three fifteen

699
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 2>on its head. So Rebecca, it's your duty to make

700
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.159
<v Speaker 2>sure you do everything in your power that the chosen

701
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:35.199
<v Speaker 2>seed is the one that rules right.

702
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why she made such an effort

703
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>right yes, to tell Jacob, hey, you've got to get

704
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>this birth rate, like this is not going to be good.

705
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I've screwed up. It's almost like she was, you know,

706
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 1>stressed and pressured. And you know, you also talk about

707
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>it in your book where you mention Rebecca and her

708
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>side of her family right and paganism and you know

709
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>who they pray to and stuff, just kind of like

710
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>dig into that for us a little bit.

711
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And I'll say this out right too, because I know,

712
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:13.760
<v Speaker 2>some people be like, oh, you're making stuff up. They

713
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 2>don't say nothing like that. And in the book, I

714
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>tell you if I'm speculating or giving you a hypothesis,

715
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I say, hey, this is my opinion. This is pure speculation.

716
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:27.920
<v Speaker 2>But here's the verse, copy and paste for you to read.

717
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:29.800
<v Speaker 2>You don't even have to look it up. I do

718
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 2>the legwork for you, or at least try to and show

719
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.840
<v Speaker 2>you this says this, and this says this, and that

720
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 2>forms my opinion here like this. So I mean, I

721
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:45.159
<v Speaker 2>try to tell people when I'm speculating. But when you

722
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.440
<v Speaker 2>read Rebecca and her family history and story in the

723
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Book of Genesis. In your sixty six book, Cannon, it

724
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 2>says that when she was acquired, Elia's r the cup Bearer,

725
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.119
<v Speaker 2>the servant of Abraham, was sent to the land of

726
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Haran to acquire a wife for his son. So Eliezar

727
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:15.679
<v Speaker 2>goes to Haran and finds Rebecca by the well. They

728
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 2>bring him home and says, my master son is coming

729
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 2>of age. I'm looking for a wife, and I was

730
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 2>told to come here to the land of his father's

731
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>people to acquire a wife. And he serves the Lord Yahweh.

732
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:36.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, basically, I'm paraphrasing here, but we're interested in

733
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 2>your daughter. I think your daughter would be a good match. Well,

734
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:46.880
<v Speaker 2>her father replies in Genesis, he says, this Yahweh you

735
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 2>speak of, I can neither speak good nor evil. So

736
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.280
<v Speaker 2>that shows you they didn't even know who Yahweh was.

737
00:42:56.559 --> 00:43:00.840
<v Speaker 2>They served other gods there, and when you go into

738
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 2>the history and the archaeology of the land of Haran,

739
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.679
<v Speaker 2>they served many gods, but they were really big into

740
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 2>fertility gods in fertility worship. And one of those gods

741
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 2>that was well known and well worshiped was sam Quan.

742
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 2>But sam Quain is not the exception, he's the rule.

743
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, And you find these common themes, they're universal.

744
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 2>When you look at these fertility gods, eight out of

745
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 2>ten were wild men. They were covered in hair from hew. Yeah.

746
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:47.159
<v Speaker 2>You look at Pan, you look at Fawness, you look

747
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.320
<v Speaker 2>at I mean, I mean, I could go on all day.

748
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 2>All these different gods were futility gods covered in hair.

749
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

750
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 3>The pagan gods are I mean, the Pagans are huge

751
00:43:56.639 --> 00:44:01.400
<v Speaker 3>on worshiping like fertility god of all types, you know,

752
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 3>like Ishtar and all these other you know, there's like

753
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:06.599
<v Speaker 3>the I noticed there's like a male.

754
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 2>And a female version.

755
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Two. I don't know.

756
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 3>It's just crazy because every pagan god is almost related

757
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 3>to a fertility god of some sort.

758
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.119
<v Speaker 4>It's interesting, it's kind of funny. Doesn't pagan just mean

759
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:20.199
<v Speaker 4>heathen and like.

760
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it means anything anti god basically.

761
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

762
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we can kind of like draw conclusions that

763
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 1>it's possible.

764
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:32.400
<v Speaker 2>With Rebecca they worship this god in her house. And

765
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.440
<v Speaker 2>in the epic of Gilgamesh, this was from that same

766
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:42.239
<v Speaker 2>land of Haran or right, and uh inky Do, who

767
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, is another version, same person, same story,

768
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 2>just kind of got their own spin to it. Of Esau.

769
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.440
<v Speaker 2>This inky Do was covered in hair from head to toe.

770
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 2>He was a wild man in the field. He was

771
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.800
<v Speaker 2>known as a mighty hunter. W I mean, everything matches up.

772
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But it says that when he was made, it says

773
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 2>pacifically that he was created as Gilgamesh is equal the

774
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Yin and yang nature versus civilization basically, And it says

775
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:17.400
<v Speaker 2>that inky Do was created in the image of sam

776
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:24.199
<v Speaker 2>Quain and sam Quain yeah, and sam Quain was covered

777
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:28.719
<v Speaker 2>in hair and it said that it was matted uh

778
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and he was the god of the of the cat hole.

779
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 2>So Eliazar goes to this same land mentions their god,

780
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.119
<v Speaker 2>the father of Rebecca says ay, I can speak neither

781
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 2>good nor evil of this god, but hey, you got

782
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good dowery, and this guy got some money

783
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:52.079
<v Speaker 2>and looks like my daughter's gonna be well took care of. Yeah,

784
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.639
<v Speaker 2>you have my blessing. And then she goes and it

785
00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:00.360
<v Speaker 2>says that she takes her handmaiden with her. So she

786
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 2>was already a fully grown adult hood woman of mating age,

787
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.800
<v Speaker 2>breeding age, and was raising this house that worshiped all

788
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 2>these fertility gods, and sam quain these harry fertility gods

789
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 2>being amongst them. And then she comes into the House

790
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 2>of Abraham and is presented as a husband to Isaac.

791
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 2>So and I said, now that's what we know that,

792
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:27.719
<v Speaker 2>that's in the scriptures, that's in the archaeology, that's in

793
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 2>the history. Now where I speculate, because everybody wants to ask, well,

794
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.679
<v Speaker 2>how did Esau come out looking like that? Did you

795
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.239
<v Speaker 2>know did she fool around with an angel or fallen

796
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 2>angel or what happened here? And it doesn't come right

797
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 2>out and say, so we have to put two and

798
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:49.119
<v Speaker 2>two together and do some speculation and some educated guesses.

799
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I do here. You know, I look

800
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and I see there's a number two, and there's a blank,

801
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>and then we have a four. I got to figure

802
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 2>out what that other number is. Yeah, So by doing that,

803
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I speculate. I'm like, well, did she breed with Satan

804
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:16.000
<v Speaker 2>or a fallen angel physically? That's one possibility. Did was

805
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:20.320
<v Speaker 2>this a spiritual conception like the conception of Jesus, you know,

806
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 2>or the spirit or whatever hovered over and there's you know,

807
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 2>some kind of spiritual thing. Could she have, you know,

808
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:31.159
<v Speaker 2>prayed to a fertility God that she knew and grew

809
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:34.719
<v Speaker 2>up with to bless her womb and this is what happened.

810
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 2>That's another possibility. But that's the one that I think

811
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:40.599
<v Speaker 2>and that I went with and said, I believe that's

812
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 2>how this happened. Because when you go back to the

813
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:46.840
<v Speaker 2>biblical text, it says that Rebecca was getting old in

814
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>age and was barren. She couldn't have a child. This

815
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>was the number one thing a woman was supposed to

816
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:58.119
<v Speaker 2>do in this ancient times. Look at the story of Abraham.

817
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Sarah was getting old in age, couldn't produce him an

818
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.920
<v Speaker 2>air she was freaking out.

819
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:04.239
<v Speaker 4>What she do?

820
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 2>She gave her handmaiden Hagar to Abraham, and Ishmael was

821
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>a product. Ishmael was the first born. He was supposed

822
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to get the birth right. Well, what happens. God miraculously

823
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:23.920
<v Speaker 2>opens the womb of Sarah and she conceives Isaac. So

824
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Ishmael has kicked out of the family, screwed out of

825
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.320
<v Speaker 2>his berth right, and it was given to the younger son.

826
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 2>We had the same thing happening here with Esau, a

827
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>woman that was barren in my opinion, here's why I

828
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 2>speculate freaked out. Thought she was about to be cast

829
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 2>out and another woman was going to come in to

830
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 2>take her place to produce an air. A woman in

831
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 2>that position would have been greatly desperate in my opinion. Right,

832
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:58.559
<v Speaker 2>So was is it out of the question to think

833
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>that this woman in her need would pray to a

834
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 2>familiar God that she grew up sacrificing to, praying to

835
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:15.000
<v Speaker 2>worshiping that that fertility God that was covered in Harefrom

836
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 2>had the toe bless her womb, and that was the

837
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.079
<v Speaker 2>product of Esau. That's why Esau come out covered and

838
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Harefrom had the toe looking just like these fertility gods

839
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>or maybe even unbeknownst to her, I even throw this out.

840
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.480
<v Speaker 2>This could be another alternative if you don't want to

841
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:36.840
<v Speaker 2>taint the the legacy of Rebecca, maybe unbeknownst to her,

842
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>her handmaiden made a sacrifice in prayer to this fertility

843
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 2>god to bless Rebecca's womb, right, right, Yeah, like I said,

844
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:50.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we know we have a two, we have

845
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.039
<v Speaker 2>a blank, and we have a four. How do we

846
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 2>get to the four? And that we have to be

847
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>honest and try to figure these things out.

848
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so it fascinates me how this scenario completely

849
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 1>mirrors what took place in the Garden as far as

850
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Cain and Able. I mean, it's like almost it's almost

851
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:16.159
<v Speaker 1>so symmetrical, right, And who knows, maybe this was like

852
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the time in history where there was just this there

853
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>was a battle over you know, the birthright. Spiritually right,

854
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 1>You've got this move counter move move right, Satan, God,

855
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff going on, a lot of things going

856
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>on that we can't see, and it makes me think,

857
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, God obviously made the ultimate countermove right with

858
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:46.840
<v Speaker 1>with with Jacob? What's your view on like on with

859
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:54.039
<v Speaker 1>with God? Cursing you know these certain people in the Bible,

860
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.639
<v Speaker 1>why do you think kind of God is? Because the

861
00:50:57.639 --> 00:50:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Gnostics can look at that and go, well, he is

862
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 1>the bad for doing it. You know what I'm saying.

863
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>It should be the other way around. And you know

864
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 1>what's your kind of view with that? Curious?

865
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:14.119
<v Speaker 2>And see, I think that is once again the meta narrative.

866
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 2>It's the little stories in the Bible that is mirroring

867
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the big overall arching story that is our story, his story,

868
00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 2>his story, his story, our story, because if you look

869
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 2>at the angels, they were his first creation, not us.

870
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.960
<v Speaker 2>When you go to the Book of Job, when Job's

871
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.199
<v Speaker 2>questioning God and he finally gets fed up, and you remember

872
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 2>he gives him that good old boy talking to he says,

873
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:53.639
<v Speaker 2>where were you when I hung the stars? Where were

874
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 2>you when I laid its foundations? You know, where were

875
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 2>you when I had done this and done that? Can

876
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you put the hook in Leviathan's nose chaos? Can you

877
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:06.639
<v Speaker 2>grab chaos by the nose and make it your plaything?

878
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.360
<v Speaker 2>You are a nobody? Who are you to question me?

879
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Where were you? And then daring all that he says,

880
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.920
<v Speaker 2>and he's talking about creation, he says, and where were

881
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you when I hung the stars, did this? Did that?

882
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:23.400
<v Speaker 2>He said? And the morning stars the sons of God

883
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:28.440
<v Speaker 2>sang for joy at the side of creation. So that

884
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:33.079
<v Speaker 2>shows you these angels, He's angelic hostis divine counsel, was

885
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:37.719
<v Speaker 2>there and witnessed creation. It says it right there. So

886
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:44.079
<v Speaker 2>when God is creating mankind, he says, let us make

887
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 2>man in our image. I don't think that he's talking

888
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.639
<v Speaker 2>to himself. A lot of people want to take the

889
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:56.880
<v Speaker 2>aspect that this is the trinity, you know, he's talking

890
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to the other aspects of himself. No, I think he's

891
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.239
<v Speaker 2>talking to the angelic coast. Because when anytime you see

892
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.719
<v Speaker 2>angels in the Bible, they look just like us. They eat,

893
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 2>they drink, they sleep, that they have a physicality to them.

894
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Some of them even come down and bread with our women.

895
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that is to us a hour that God

896
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 2>is talking about in that creation story. So they are

897
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.199
<v Speaker 2>if you look at it in a family aspect, because

898
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:26.360
<v Speaker 2>God is the father, we are a family. That is

899
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 2>our elder brothers, we are the younger brother. Throughout all

900
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:35.719
<v Speaker 2>the meta narratives of the Bible, what does God do.

901
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:41.039
<v Speaker 2>He always chooses the younger brother when the older brother

902
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:42.639
<v Speaker 2>should get the birthright.

903
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Wow, and he chooses us versus the angels.

904
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:55.119
<v Speaker 2>He will judge the angels. Dude, that is the birthright

905
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and seed war right.

906
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 4>And it makes a lot of sense with like go

907
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:02.719
<v Speaker 4>back to talking about why can't you catch Bigfoot on

908
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.000
<v Speaker 4>the camp because it's spiritual and it's physical, just like

909
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.480
<v Speaker 4>the angels, you can't see them because it's spiritual and

910
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:10.239
<v Speaker 4>it's physical.

911
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very interesting back to that. You know, I think

912
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>it is in more interdimensional. It plays the physical part,

913
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 1>it plays the spiritual part.

914
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 4>You know.

915
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:24.320
<v Speaker 1>The interdimensional is kind of like that transmutation that happens.

916
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:30.760
<v Speaker 1>They they'll materialize, dematerialize. What's fascinating is when I you know,

917
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>going through your book, I think you mentioned a story

918
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 1>that bo was talking about. He had this woman on

919
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>his show kind of tell that story for us, because

920
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:49.199
<v Speaker 1>that makes me think almost that you know, the sightings

921
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 1>of the foot, the whole phenomenon behind it, that these

922
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 1>are either the spirits of the nepheline or they are

923
00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the sons of the offspring of the nephilene.

924
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.119
<v Speaker 3>I think they're the offspring because they look like like

925
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 3>actual male and female faces with like hair and stuff.

926
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Like I think they're the offspring.

927
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:10.199
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

928
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I think so too.

929
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:13.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

930
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 2>And before I go there though, just to put a

931
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 2>bow on what I was talking about earlier. Absolutely, this

932
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:22.880
<v Speaker 2>whole meta narrative, micro narrative that you see, it's stew

933
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:26.639
<v Speaker 2>out all the Bible, guys, it's stew out all the

934
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:29.440
<v Speaker 2>parables and stories. Do I think that some of these

935
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 2>are you know, are they historical?

936
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

937
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's an onion. Once again, there's so many layers.

938
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.119
<v Speaker 2>There's meta narratives all through that that connect to the

939
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:46.559
<v Speaker 2>huge overarching narrative. Look at the parable of the prodigal son. Okay,

940
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:50.039
<v Speaker 2>what happens an eldest son that was supposed to get

941
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:53.280
<v Speaker 2>the birth right? Ah, then you have a younger son

942
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.880
<v Speaker 2>that wants his inheritance now goes off, rolls in the

943
00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:59.960
<v Speaker 2>pig filth, thinks that he's never going to be accepted back.

944
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.639
<v Speaker 2>But God or but the father accepts him back with

945
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:08.320
<v Speaker 2>open arms, puts a signet ring of authority back on him.

946
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.719
<v Speaker 2>And what happens. The elder brother is pissed, he's jealous,

947
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.719
<v Speaker 2>and what does he say, I've been here the whole time,

948
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 2>I've never left you. I've done what I'm supposed to do.

949
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:28.000
<v Speaker 2>This other brother has failed, repeatedly embarrassed our family name

950
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.119
<v Speaker 2>rolled in pig excrement. But not only do you accept

951
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:37.159
<v Speaker 2>him back, you put a signet of authority, put a

952
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:40.079
<v Speaker 2>ring back on his finger, and hold this huge banquet

953
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.599
<v Speaker 2>and party in celebration. You've never had a party or

954
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:48.199
<v Speaker 2>celebration for me. Where's my party? Tell me that is

955
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 2>not with this new glasses. That if you didn't have

956
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.639
<v Speaker 2>this viewpoint that I just told you about earlier, tell

957
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:57.199
<v Speaker 2>me you don't see it now. That is the angelic

958
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.880
<v Speaker 2>beings our elder brothers, and we are the younger brother

959
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:05.119
<v Speaker 2>who wanted our inheritance now squandered it and is accepted away,

960
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.960
<v Speaker 2>and the signet ring of authority placed back on our finger,

961
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and they're mad. Tell me you don't see the same

962
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:14.360
<v Speaker 2>narrative with the parable of the wheat and the tears.

963
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:21.320
<v Speaker 2>What happens in that story? He says a landowner sown

964
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:27.119
<v Speaker 2>good seed and walked away, and in his absence the

965
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:35.280
<v Speaker 2>adversary sown his seed, and that the workers come and say, father,

966
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:41.239
<v Speaker 2>did you not sow good seed? But yeay, tars grow

967
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:44.039
<v Speaker 2>amongst the wheat. And he said the enemy has done this,

968
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 2>and the tears are of him. Well, should we tear

969
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 2>up the tars? No, least you tear up the wheat.

970
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:02.360
<v Speaker 2>In pulling up the tars. No, let the tars grow

971
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:07.000
<v Speaker 2>amongst the wheat. And at harvest we will pull them

972
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:11.079
<v Speaker 2>all up and separate the wheat from the tars, and

973
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:16.360
<v Speaker 2>throw the tars in the fire judgment. The same parables

974
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:22.320
<v Speaker 2>to be told. But it's with sheep and goats. What

975
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.639
<v Speaker 2>animal was killed and wrapped around them like a cloak

976
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:29.079
<v Speaker 2>to pretend they were esau.

977
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:30.679
<v Speaker 4>And goat a goat?

978
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:35.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, and go off? We have represents the bath

979
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.159
<v Speaker 1>on that too crazy?

980
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:41.719
<v Speaker 2>And we have the same parable with the good tenant.

981
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:44.440
<v Speaker 2>What happens with the good tenant parable that Jesus told.

982
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:48.360
<v Speaker 2>A landowner has a piece of land. He rents it

983
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.519
<v Speaker 2>to a farmer, and they agree that they will look

984
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:55.639
<v Speaker 2>over the land and come harvest time, the landowner we

985
00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:00.320
<v Speaker 2>get the first fruits. Well, come harvest time, he's sends

986
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 2>his messenger. Okay, for those that are not following here,

987
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:09.440
<v Speaker 2>the landowner, God, the land earth, the farmers that look

988
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:11.840
<v Speaker 2>over the land. This is the angels, the watchers that

989
00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:15.719
<v Speaker 2>was given dominion at the tower of Bible. And who

990
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:18.639
<v Speaker 2>is the first fruits and that the harvest that's been growing.

991
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 2>It's us. Well the prophets. The prophets are the messenger. Well,

992
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:26.360
<v Speaker 2>the first messengers get sinned. What do they do? They

993
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:30.480
<v Speaker 2>killed the messenger? What did they do? They killed the prophets?

994
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Right?

995
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:36.280
<v Speaker 2>And then he sent another messenger. They killed that messenger too.

996
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Then finally he says, I will send my son. They

997
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:42.519
<v Speaker 2>will not kill my son.

998
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

999
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 2>So he sends the sun and they say we will

1000
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:52.800
<v Speaker 2>kill the son. He will know we mean business and

1001
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 2>the land will be ours. That's Jesus, folks, right. This

1002
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:01.719
<v Speaker 2>is the same all the stories, all these parables of

1003
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.159
<v Speaker 2>the of the family, the birth right, the older brother,

1004
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:07.639
<v Speaker 2>the younger brother. It is all flowing through it.

1005
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, that is so wild, well said, I love it. Yeah, yeah, dude,

1006
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:20.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean it's it's it's uh. I love

1007
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 1>seeing the Bible this way. There's something that gives me confirmation,

1008
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:29.880
<v Speaker 1>there's something that I'm locked into it. A lot of

1009
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people will say that the other way

1010
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to look at those parables is basically saved and unsaved, right,

1011
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 1>And and I don't it's context right, Like the whole

1012
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Bible is all one huge, gigantic story, and there is

1013
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a generalized context behind the whole thing from beginning to end.

1014
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:58.480
<v Speaker 1>And to me, it only makes complete sense when you're

1015
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:02.079
<v Speaker 1>getting into these parables in the way we're talking about

1016
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:05.000
<v Speaker 1>him right now, you know. So it's it's fascinating, man,

1017
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:11.440
<v Speaker 1>And it plays a lot into like our supernatural reality today,

1018
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:15.039
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean if the end days talk about

1019
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the you know, as in the days of Noah, we're

1020
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:19.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of like starting to see in our day and

1021
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.800
<v Speaker 1>age like that, you know, with genetics and all this

1022
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:28.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of what I think is unethical like experimentation. It's weird, man.

1023
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:32.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, things that we were thought impossible, you know,

1024
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:34.039
<v Speaker 1>are becoming possible.

1025
01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:37.280
<v Speaker 3>But they dealt with mythology is actually real man.

1026
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:39.320
<v Speaker 1>That's the It happened in such a short amount of

1027
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:43.599
<v Speaker 1>time too, which makes me think, like, man, there's purpose,

1028
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:46.559
<v Speaker 1>isn't agenda going on here? Right? That it's that fallen

1029
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.360
<v Speaker 1>angel agenda.

1030
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Got no doubt?

1031
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Remember, Yeah, God said he would throw us into basically

1032
01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 3>like a place of wolves, like on this earth, like

1033
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, bewary man is like this whole place is

1034
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:04.760
<v Speaker 3>while we're temporary on earth, man, it's like principalities of

1035
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:07.719
<v Speaker 3>darkness and high places what we're going against.

1036
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<v Speaker 1>Right, right? And I think there's another Oh, go ahead,

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01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:11.360
<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was just gonna say. And one of the

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01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.000
<v Speaker 2>things too that ties into this that I was totally

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01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:19.960
<v Speaker 2>ignorant to, that opened up more and it goes along

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01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 2>with that, was the birth right. It's not just land,

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01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:32.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not just money and titles and animals. It's a

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01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 2>whole yack you said, It's a whole spiritual thing. And

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01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:44.599
<v Speaker 2>the birth right is symbolically in these stories tied into

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01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:50.639
<v Speaker 2>the supernatural garments from the Garden of God. That is

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01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:54.719
<v Speaker 2>the birth right. And when you go into the extra

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01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:57.320
<v Speaker 2>biblical books, it gets it kind of spells it out

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01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:59.920
<v Speaker 2>more for you. But you see it, like I said,

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01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:05.199
<v Speaker 2>in these meta narratives and woven into the Bible sixty

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01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:08.760
<v Speaker 2>six book Cannon. But just like Jesus said, you know

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01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:11.079
<v Speaker 2>when he said to these disciples, these disciples, like you

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01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.719
<v Speaker 2>always speak in these parables. You know why, And He's like,

1053
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:18.599
<v Speaker 2>because to them, the mysteries have not been given The

1054
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.119
<v Speaker 2>mysteries have been given to you, and you still don't

1055
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 2>understand the Holy Spirit. And that's because a lot of

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01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:27.239
<v Speaker 2>people talk about when I talk about some of this stuff,

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01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:29.519
<v Speaker 2>and you know, that's kind of a stretch for some

1058
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:32.480
<v Speaker 2>people heard from the grass. They were like, no, it's

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01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:34.480
<v Speaker 2>if it was like that, it would just say it.

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01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:36.199
<v Speaker 2>It just come right. Why don't they just come right

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01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:39.920
<v Speaker 2>out and say it, Because that's not how God works. Man.

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01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:43.239
<v Speaker 2>He lays the bread crumbs out, and what does he

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01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:46.000
<v Speaker 2>tell you. He says, study and show thyself for proof.

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01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:47.280
<v Speaker 4>Got work for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it says that it is the glory of God

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01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:54.679
<v Speaker 2>to conceal a thing, But the glory of kings is

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01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:57.559
<v Speaker 2>to search things out. We're to search it out and

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01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:59.559
<v Speaker 2>find it. He's not going to spell it out for you,

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01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:01.920
<v Speaker 2>but for the ones that are curious and that are

1070
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:05.960
<v Speaker 2>seekers and pray and read through this stuff and read

1071
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 2>these extra biblical books for context, you're going to find it.

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01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Because he left a bread crumb trail and this birthright.

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01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:18.079
<v Speaker 2>It talks about it on Ginsburg, Legends of the Jews, Jashure,

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01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:21.599
<v Speaker 2>some of these other extra biblical books. It says that

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01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:26.679
<v Speaker 2>at the fall that Satan, when he was thrown down,

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01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:32.480
<v Speaker 2>he was demoted his signet ring, like we've talked about

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01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:35.440
<v Speaker 2>in that parable, that is the birthright. That is the

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01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:38.360
<v Speaker 2>supernatural garments of the garden of God, and that is

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01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:43.599
<v Speaker 2>the symbol of kingship, priesthood, and authority. And he give

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01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:48.360
<v Speaker 2>dominion to Adam. That was the symbol of that dominion.

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01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:52.480
<v Speaker 2>And it says that when Satan was cast down, he

1082
01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:58.880
<v Speaker 2>was once the high priest of creation. And when you

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01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:03.000
<v Speaker 2>go to Ezekiel, twenty eight and ninety nine point eight

1084
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:06.920
<v Speaker 2>percent of Christians will tell you that that's talking about Satan.

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01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:09.800
<v Speaker 2>And what does it say? You were in the garden

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01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:14.639
<v Speaker 2>of God. Every precious stone was your covering di baryl Onyx,

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01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:17.440
<v Speaker 2>topaz jasper and it lists them. And when you get

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01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.480
<v Speaker 2>into the masoretic text, it lists nine stones, but when

1089
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you get into the septuagen it lists twelve stones. This

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01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:30.159
<v Speaker 2>is a carbon copy picture polaroid of the priestly ephod

1091
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:35.400
<v Speaker 2>that God's priests war entering the holiest of holies. So

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01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:39.639
<v Speaker 2>it's painting Satan in a priestly role. And then if

1093
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:42.079
<v Speaker 2>you were like, ah, why don't it just say you know,

1094
01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:45.440
<v Speaker 2>they don't say that you're You're assuming you're stretching. We'll

1095
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.280
<v Speaker 2>keep reading, because it says, not only did you know

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01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:50.719
<v Speaker 2>was he perfect in all his ways until iniquity was

1097
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:52.760
<v Speaker 2>found in him. And all this stuff, It says, plainly,

1098
01:05:53.679 --> 01:06:00.920
<v Speaker 2>you profaned your what your sanctuaries. So not only is

1099
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.079
<v Speaker 2>it painting him to priestly roll with this, e fought

1100
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:06.519
<v Speaker 2>it fled out says he had a sanctuary and he

1101
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:09.519
<v Speaker 2>profaned it, and then he was cast from the garden

1102
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:14.440
<v Speaker 2>of God as a profane thing. And that garment, that authority,

1103
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:19.159
<v Speaker 2>that dominion, that kingship and priesthood, that is the coverings

1104
01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that was given to Adam to mankind, they were given dominion,

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01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:28.920
<v Speaker 2>and those garments were passed to the eldest son. That

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01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:31.679
<v Speaker 2>was the birthright. And when you get into the book

1107
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:34.599
<v Speaker 2>of Jasher and these other books, it tells you flat

1108
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:37.079
<v Speaker 2>out it went from Adam, he went to Enoch, he

1109
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:41.119
<v Speaker 2>went to Methuselah to Noah. Noah had them on the

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01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:44.079
<v Speaker 2>boat and carried them through the ark. But once they

1111
01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:46.840
<v Speaker 2>come on the other side of the ark, Ham's rebellion.

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01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Ham stole those garments and it went to Nimrod. And

1113
01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:55.559
<v Speaker 2>then through the book of Jashan, these Aftra biblic books,

1114
01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 2>you find out that these two mighty men, Nimrod the

1115
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:04.239
<v Speaker 2>mighty hunter, faced off against Esau the mighty hunter, and

1116
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:08.320
<v Speaker 2>it said that hatred, resentment, and jealousy built up in

1117
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the heart of Nimrod all his days against Esau, and

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01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:13.840
<v Speaker 2>he went out to hunt this hairy beast of a

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01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 2>man to show who the real mighty man was. But

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01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Esau seen him and hid himself. And it says that

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01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:22.440
<v Speaker 2>he sprung out, cut off Nimrod's head, killed two of

1122
01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 2>his giants that was his bodyguards. And then it says

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01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:30.320
<v Speaker 2>he steals the garments to which Nimrod was able to

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01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:34.199
<v Speaker 2>prevail over all the nations, and then runs home, hides

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01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.519
<v Speaker 2>the garments in his house, and then enters into Jacob's tent.

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01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:40.000
<v Speaker 2>And here's where we pick up, and it dovetails perfectly

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01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:42.800
<v Speaker 2>into the trading of the birthright in Genesis. That never

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01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:46.199
<v Speaker 2>made any sense to me, because if you go back

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01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:48.000
<v Speaker 2>to that story, what does it say. It says he

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01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:52.119
<v Speaker 2>come in from the field exhausted. Yeah, he was exhausted,

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01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:54.400
<v Speaker 2>all right, he just killed the king and he's on

1132
01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the run and he just fought three giants, probably sustained.

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01:07:59.320 --> 01:07:59.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like you said, what use is a birthright

1135
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:06.800
<v Speaker 2>to me? When I am dead? And take it?

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01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Wow?

1137
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Wow? The whole thing behind the Bowl of suit man,

1138
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, symbolic for me. I think this is kind

1139
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:22.760
<v Speaker 1>of what was playing out, you know. And there's a

1140
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:26.079
<v Speaker 1>couple of Hollywood films out there that actually kind of

1141
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:33.239
<v Speaker 1>flashed to us the garments, right, So it's in it's

1142
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:34.640
<v Speaker 1>in the Noah.

1143
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:36.840
<v Speaker 4>Movie, snake skin around his skin.

1144
01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Kind of like around his arm. And you know, there's

1145
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:45.000
<v Speaker 1>another film I think it's called Clash of the Titans.

1146
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:48.439
<v Speaker 1>And so you've got this stuff going on on Earth,

1147
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.840
<v Speaker 1>but then you've got the gods, you know, up in

1148
01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the heavens, and Zeus is wearing this breastplate that's got

1149
01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:00.720
<v Speaker 1>jewels all over it, and none of the other you know,

1150
01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:05.359
<v Speaker 1>subordinate gods have what he's wearing. It's clear that story.

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01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:08.359
<v Speaker 2>That the one son of the goddess that rebelled and

1152
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.600
<v Speaker 2>was sexually promiscuous was cursed and turned into a beast.

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01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go, dude. That's the mythology connections right

1154
01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:19.279
<v Speaker 1>with all this stuff. Man. I mean you even get

1155
01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:24.640
<v Speaker 1>into it as well with the epic of Gilgamesh. You

1156
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:27.520
<v Speaker 1>get into it with that story between him and Key

1157
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you know, elaborate on that a little bit for us?

1158
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, just like I talked about in the

1159
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Book of Jasher. It says in there that these two

1160
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:38.520
<v Speaker 2>mighty men, you know, hated each other, wanted to prove

1161
01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:42.279
<v Speaker 2>who the real mighty man was, and they went to battle. Well,

1162
01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:45.880
<v Speaker 2>when you read the epic of Gilgamesh, you have Gilgamesh,

1163
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:50.239
<v Speaker 2>who a lot of historians and biblical scholars align with Nimrod.

1164
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Thinks it's the same guy, same story, just different names, uh.

1165
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:59.039
<v Speaker 2>And then you have inky Do. Inky Do is a

1166
01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:02.239
<v Speaker 2>mirror image of Esau. He's covered and harefm haad the

1167
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:04.520
<v Speaker 2>toe made in the image of sam Queen. He was

1168
01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:08.279
<v Speaker 2>the mighty hunter of the field. He was the wild man,

1169
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:14.159
<v Speaker 2>and Nimrod was this mighty hunter that dominated. No one

1170
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:17.159
<v Speaker 2>could best him in battle or war or drinking. I mean,

1171
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:21.479
<v Speaker 2>he was just the top dog. And this trapper in

1172
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:25.359
<v Speaker 2>this story is out hunting and comes across inky Do,

1173
01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 2>and it says that he's basically hunting by this pool

1174
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:33.600
<v Speaker 2>or this lake, and that all the animals go there

1175
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:37.560
<v Speaker 2>to feed and to water. And then as he's getting

1176
01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:40.079
<v Speaker 2>ready to kill one of these wild animals, it says

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01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that this sasquatched looking thing walks up, this beast covered

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01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and harefm head the toe and it's huge, and said

1179
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:52.119
<v Speaker 2>that this trapper is frozen with fright. It's unlike anything

1180
01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:55.039
<v Speaker 2>he's ever seen before, and he's scared to death to

1181
01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:57.079
<v Speaker 2>even move, afraid this thing's going to see him and

1182
01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:59.920
<v Speaker 2>just rip him the shreds. And it says he hide

1183
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.359
<v Speaker 2>and waits, and that this beast drinks at the water

1184
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and hole. All the other animals ain't afraid of him.

1185
01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:07.479
<v Speaker 2>He just hangs out with him, and they accept him

1186
01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:09.800
<v Speaker 2>like he's one of theirs. And then he turns and

1187
01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:13.359
<v Speaker 2>goes back into the wilderness. And then the trapper runs

1188
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:17.520
<v Speaker 2>for his life and goes back to Er and is

1189
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:20.399
<v Speaker 2>in the taverns telling people, you know, hey, man, I

1190
01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:23.279
<v Speaker 2>seen this freaking sasqua. It's just big old Harry beast

1191
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:25.520
<v Speaker 2>of the field man, and he runs with the animals

1192
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:28.359
<v Speaker 2>like he's one of them. It's the craziest thing I

1193
01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:32.640
<v Speaker 2>ever seen in my life. This thing would probably best Gilgamesh,

1194
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:35.439
<v Speaker 2>you know. And the words started traveling around town, and

1195
01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:38.479
<v Speaker 2>Gilgamesh gets word of it, and he cast this hunter

1196
01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:40.600
<v Speaker 2>to his palace and it's like, you know, I hear

1197
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:43.880
<v Speaker 2>some pretty tall tales. Man Tep, tell me your tale,

1198
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.359
<v Speaker 2>and he tells him and it strikes fear into the

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01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:51.960
<v Speaker 2>heart of Gilgamesh. So but he wants to prove that

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01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:55.079
<v Speaker 2>he is the mighty hunter and that nothing can best him.

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01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 2>So now there's word traveling around there's something that can

1202
01:11:57.680 --> 01:12:02.119
<v Speaker 2>best him. So he stacks the that. He says, Okay,

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01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:07.039
<v Speaker 2>go back to where you found this beast and wait

1204
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:12.279
<v Speaker 2>for it. But go to the temple of Anana. Take

1205
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:18.399
<v Speaker 2>a temple harlot with you, and I want her to

1206
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:22.560
<v Speaker 2>cast off her clothes and seduce this hairy beast of

1207
01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:25.039
<v Speaker 2>a man in the field. No man can turn away

1208
01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:28.840
<v Speaker 2>a woman and make sure it's a prostitute from the

1209
01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:32.319
<v Speaker 2>temple of a Nana. And I want her to cast

1210
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 2>a spell on him and weaken him. I have her

1211
01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:43.119
<v Speaker 2>lay with him for seven days seven nights, NonStop, and

1212
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:50.000
<v Speaker 2>once the seven days is up, to remove herself from him,

1213
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:54.239
<v Speaker 2>and the wilderness will reject him, and the woman will

1214
01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:59.039
<v Speaker 2>weaken him and bring him to me. So the trapper

1215
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:03.159
<v Speaker 2>goes blow. Anona gets gets the prettiest prostitute, takes her

1216
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:07.439
<v Speaker 2>with him and carry out their plants. She removes her clothes,

1217
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:11.439
<v Speaker 2>inky do ravishes her for seven days and seven nights,

1218
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.880
<v Speaker 2>and then she leaves him. It says that inky Do

1219
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:18.439
<v Speaker 2>tries to return back to the wilderness with all the

1220
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:23.319
<v Speaker 2>other animals, and that the animals reject him, that he

1221
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:26.159
<v Speaker 2>smelled different, something was different about him. He was no

1222
01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:30.119
<v Speaker 2>longer accepted. And it says that the animals tried to

1223
01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:32.800
<v Speaker 2>run from him, and that he ran and tried to

1224
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:35.520
<v Speaker 2>keep up with the animals. But it says in the text,

1225
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:41.880
<v Speaker 2>it says it was as if his body was bound.

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01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:47.479
<v Speaker 2>His legs were heavied, and he was bound like a cord.

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01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:50.640
<v Speaker 2>And this is the same you know terminology you get

1228
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:54.279
<v Speaker 2>with with witchcraft and spells. You know, you bind something.

1229
01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:56.079
<v Speaker 2>And you hear it in the Bible too, you know,

1230
01:13:56.279 --> 01:13:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Jesus said, uh, if you're if you are to plunder

1231
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:05.239
<v Speaker 2>a strong man's house, you must first bind the strong man. So,

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01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:10.920
<v Speaker 2>after the wilderness rejects him and he's been weakened, he

1233
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:14.319
<v Speaker 2>has nowhere to go. He goes looking for the Harlot

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01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:17.399
<v Speaker 2>and she's there waiting by the pool, and she tells

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01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:21.720
<v Speaker 2>him they don't accept you now because you've outgrown them.

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01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:25.359
<v Speaker 2>You know you are now wise come with me to

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<v Speaker 2>the city of Rth, where the wine never stops and

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01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:31.439
<v Speaker 2>the bread's flowing, and mighty Gilgamesh takes care of us

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01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:33.279
<v Speaker 2>and all this stuff, and he's the mighty king. No

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01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 2>one can best him. And this hits his ego and

1241
01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:42.359
<v Speaker 2>he says, I'm the mighty man. Take me to this Gilgamesh,

1242
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and I will best him, and I will be your

1243
01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:50.319
<v Speaker 2>new king. So she takes him to err and these

1244
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:56.520
<v Speaker 2>guys have this epic battle, but in their version, Gilgamesh wins,

1245
01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:01.520
<v Speaker 2>but they end up becoming best friends. And then they

1246
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:04.359
<v Speaker 2>go on all these epic adventures to right right, right,

1247
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:07.680
<v Speaker 2>they and together they slay another beast of the field,

1248
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:12.319
<v Speaker 2>the great beast, Humbaba, the guardian of the Cedar forest.

1249
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:15.199
<v Speaker 2>And it said that this was in Mount Hermon, where

1250
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:20.199
<v Speaker 2>the Anunnaki live, the place where the angels descended.

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01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Right, little, they're they're doing a what do they call

1252
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:30.800
<v Speaker 1>it damage control with their stories. You know, where they're

1253
01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:36.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna the narrative against God is going to in a

1254
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:39.720
<v Speaker 1>way just it's gonna plan out and say it. They're

1255
01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:41.920
<v Speaker 1>they're going to lie in their stories, right, They're going

1256
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:46.279
<v Speaker 1>to fabricate their narrative and their stories to exalt their

1257
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:49.600
<v Speaker 1>god or God. Yes, right, there's really no way of

1258
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:54.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of getting around that with them. You know, the

1259
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:58.640
<v Speaker 1>whole thing with Esau and the description of him, you know,

1260
01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the goats for orange from head to toe. There's a

1261
01:16:05.439 --> 01:16:08.680
<v Speaker 1>picture you have in your book. I forget what it is.

1262
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:12.479
<v Speaker 1>It's a painting, though, and I think it it went

1263
01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:17.399
<v Speaker 1>back to where you talk about it and you think

1264
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:20.600
<v Speaker 1>it's possibly it could be Caine and Esau.

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01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:23.720
<v Speaker 4>Right, what's that Chapel?

1266
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's yeah, Michelangelo painted it in assisting Chapel and

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01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I talk about it. I have a whole chapter called

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01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:34.159
<v Speaker 2>wild Men of the Bible because a lot of people

1269
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:37.600
<v Speaker 2>that even maybe see Esau, you know, as a wild man,

1270
01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:39.960
<v Speaker 2>they think he's the only one. But no, there's more.

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01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:44.520
<v Speaker 2>When you get into Nebuchinezer the second and he's cursing,

1273
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:48.279
<v Speaker 2>God curses him, and what happens. He grows hair as

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01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:50.159
<v Speaker 2>long as eagles feathers.

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01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:53.000
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like the werewolf.

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01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:54.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of.

1277
01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:57.720
<v Speaker 2>People, a lot of people take that context with it.

1278
01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But with me seeing this bigfoot thing, I kind of

1279
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:02.640
<v Speaker 2>put it in that light and I was like, and

1280
01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:06.840
<v Speaker 2>his nails grow long, and he roams with the beast

1281
01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:10.119
<v Speaker 2>of the field for seven years, and it says that

1282
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:13.000
<v Speaker 2>he even eats the grass like the Oxen. I mean

1283
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:16.600
<v Speaker 2>he becomes a wild man, and then he returns after

1284
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:21.880
<v Speaker 2>seven years, but he returns more wise and is a

1285
01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:26.840
<v Speaker 2>better king and rules better and gives praise an honor

1286
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:31.199
<v Speaker 2>to Yahweh. So he returns a wise sage. And you

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01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:33.520
<v Speaker 2>have that in the legends of the Woodwofs when you

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01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:35.439
<v Speaker 2>go into Europe. You know, I mentioned that earlier in

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01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:38.319
<v Speaker 2>the show, but all their legends in Europe of this

1290
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:43.920
<v Speaker 2>wild man. He's always this mystical phasing in out reality

1291
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:47.840
<v Speaker 2>portals and has magic and has the power of prophecy,

1292
01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and all their legends and lore they talk about it. Basically,

1293
01:17:52.199 --> 01:17:54.319
<v Speaker 2>they treat it kind of like a leprechaun. You gotta

1294
01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:57.399
<v Speaker 2>follow the rainbow and get to the end and capture

1295
01:17:57.399 --> 01:17:59.279
<v Speaker 2>the leprechaun, and then you get the pot of gold.

1296
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:02.840
<v Speaker 2>So they believed if you went into the woods and

1297
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:07.479
<v Speaker 2>captured the wild Man that he was a magical creature

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01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:11.359
<v Speaker 2>with prophetic knowledge, that he would give you future knowledge

1299
01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:15.479
<v Speaker 2>and things you would benefit from it. And there were

1300
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.920
<v Speaker 2>stories that they would lay out beer and wine to

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01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:23.920
<v Speaker 2>try to intoxicate the wild man to capture it and

1302
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:28.399
<v Speaker 2>exchange its freedom for a prophetic knowledge and things like that.

1303
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:31.439
<v Speaker 2>And you have that in the story of the Epic

1304
01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:34.680
<v Speaker 2>of Gilgamesh because when they take him to the town

1305
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:39.600
<v Speaker 2>before the battle the temple, Harlot takes him to the

1306
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:44.319
<v Speaker 2>tavern because he's never had drink before, so she's done

1307
01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:46.640
<v Speaker 2>slept with him for seven days, seven nights, and weakened

1308
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:50.000
<v Speaker 2>him with a smell. Then takes him to the tavern.

1309
01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:53.960
<v Speaker 2>He's never had wine, and they get him heavily intoxicated

1310
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:58.159
<v Speaker 2>before they take him to Gilgamesh. So Gilgamesh is fighting

1311
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:03.920
<v Speaker 2>an already weakened guy with magic and he's pissed drunk,

1312
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:09.439
<v Speaker 2>so he really stacked. Yeah, he stacked the deck against him.

1313
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:11.479
<v Speaker 2>So you have even kind of like the hints of

1314
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:14.800
<v Speaker 2>that wild man mythology kind of stuff in that story.

1315
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:16.720
<v Speaker 4>But uh.

1316
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:21.399
<v Speaker 2>So they were like wise sages, so you even have

1317
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:25.000
<v Speaker 2>a hint of that with Nebekanazer he becomes a wild man,

1318
01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:28.840
<v Speaker 2>goes into the wilderness, but returns a wise sage. And

1319
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.479
<v Speaker 2>when you get into the Targums and the other extra

1320
01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:37.359
<v Speaker 2>biblical writings, they come right out and say that Canes

1321
01:19:37.800 --> 01:19:42.399
<v Speaker 2>marking and cursing was that he was covered in hair

1322
01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and was given a horn.

1323
01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:45.840
<v Speaker 4>And.

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01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:49.079
<v Speaker 1>The theory that le Mac.

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01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, killed him in the field, right, because yeah, and

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01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:57.199
<v Speaker 2>that's why he was so afraid of being killed, because

1327
01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.239
<v Speaker 2>he looked like a beast. And like you said, when

1328
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:03.119
<v Speaker 2>you get into the targums, it says that Lamech and

1329
01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:06.119
<v Speaker 2>his old age was growing blind and that his son

1330
01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:09.479
<v Speaker 2>would help him hunt. And his son seen this hairy

1331
01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:11.880
<v Speaker 2>beast in the field and told his dad were to shoot,

1332
01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:14.600
<v Speaker 2>and shot and killed it. And when they got up

1333
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:17.720
<v Speaker 2>on it, he realized it was his ancestor Kane. And

1334
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:20.319
<v Speaker 2>that's where you get this story in the Bible where

1335
01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:23.239
<v Speaker 2>he said, if Cain's cursing was time seven, might be

1336
01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:26.439
<v Speaker 2>seventy times seven because I killed a man and in

1337
01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:30.359
<v Speaker 2>my anger killed a youth. Because it says that once

1338
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:32.319
<v Speaker 2>he's seen that it was his ancestor Kane, and he

1339
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:36.239
<v Speaker 2>was screwed. He killed his son for the mistake.

1340
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:38.079
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

1341
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:42.520
<v Speaker 2>And the medieval rabbi Rashi, he said that he thinks

1342
01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:45.439
<v Speaker 2>it was a misinterpretation where it says that you know,

1343
01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:48.199
<v Speaker 2>cursed is any man time seven who kills Caan.

1344
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:50.560
<v Speaker 4>He thanks seventh here.

1345
01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, God was saying forkin to fear, not that the

1346
01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:02.159
<v Speaker 2>revenge on his brother abels blood would come in the

1347
01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:07.239
<v Speaker 2>seventh generation and when you count seven generations from Abel,

1348
01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:09.279
<v Speaker 2>you land right on limec.

1349
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:11.399
<v Speaker 3>Right, right.

1350
01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:14.840
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think Michelangelo was reading these books, in

1351
01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:19.640
<v Speaker 2>these texts and painted them as the serpent Seed in

1352
01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:22.119
<v Speaker 2>the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, because when you look,

1353
01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:25.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like a little easter egg. Man, you have this

1354
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:27.880
<v Speaker 2>heel and inside of the hill you have a cave,

1355
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and when you look in, I mean it's unmistakable it's

1356
01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:37.199
<v Speaker 2>a freaking sasquatch in the cave and like in his face,

1357
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:40.760
<v Speaker 2>like yelling at him. It looks like in the painting

1358
01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:45.199
<v Speaker 2>is another head to toe Harry Man, but with a

1359
01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:49.319
<v Speaker 2>single horn. What I think it is the serpent Seed

1360
01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:54.079
<v Speaker 2>is Esau and Caine painted in the ceiling of the

1361
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Sistine Chapel, and Michelangelo put it in there. It's like

1362
01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:59.079
<v Speaker 2>a little Easter egg for those with eyes to see.

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01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:02.640
<v Speaker 4>Wow, right, you know, incredible.

1364
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:05.600
<v Speaker 1>What what gets me too with the serpent seat theory

1365
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is you know you've got this uh, this war between bloodlines,

1366
01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:14.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's it's still going on today, right,

1367
01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:17.359
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's kind of like where you're you

1368
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:19.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about the wheat and the terrors. I really just

1369
01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:23.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of like don't know the full like understanding of

1370
01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:26.079
<v Speaker 1>what that like supposed to really look like. You know,

1371
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:29.479
<v Speaker 1>are there blue bloods out there? You know, it's kind

1372
01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:31.159
<v Speaker 1>of wild, man, it's so.

1373
01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Wid speaking of that, have you heard Doc? Do you

1374
01:22:34.079 --> 01:22:35.279
<v Speaker 4>know who Demon Racers is?

1375
01:22:36.399 --> 01:22:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Brian, you know Brian right, Yeah, I've seen him

1376
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:40.960
<v Speaker 2>on a lot of shows and stuff. I actually reached

1377
01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:42.760
<v Speaker 2>out to him a while back. He's supposed to be

1378
01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:45.479
<v Speaker 2>recording with him, like within the next couple of weeks.

1379
01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:48.680
<v Speaker 4>I think, dude, you two are like, that's a perfect

1380
01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:53.960
<v Speaker 4>episode because he has a narrative where we had him

1381
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:56.039
<v Speaker 4>on not too long ago, and he's doing his rounds

1382
01:22:56.039 --> 01:23:01.199
<v Speaker 4>and he's got some very wild, wild stuff. He says,

1383
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:04.960
<v Speaker 4>all very fascinating. But he brought up the fact that

1384
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:09.640
<v Speaker 4>he thinks that we are all of Caine's lineage because

1385
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:14.159
<v Speaker 4>of our kN nine teeth and there was dog headed

1386
01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:17.920
<v Speaker 4>men running around pretty much all over at one point,

1387
01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:21.520
<v Speaker 4>and the Knight's the that's the reason why there's a

1388
01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:25.640
<v Speaker 4>k in front of knights. Yeah, it's a very fascinating topic.

1389
01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:27.640
<v Speaker 4>It makes it actually makes a lot of sense if

1390
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:31.840
<v Speaker 4>you if you're gonna talk about Caine. Actually, because I

1391
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:33.960
<v Speaker 4>asked him this question. I said, you know, does that

1392
01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:37.680
<v Speaker 4>mean that Caine was actually like hairy and like look

1393
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:40.000
<v Speaker 4>like a dog man or whatnot? Is what I asked him.

1394
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:42.359
<v Speaker 4>And he said, no, he thinks there's like beastiality and

1395
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:47.119
<v Speaker 4>hybridization down the line. But what you're saying makes it

1396
01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:49.279
<v Speaker 4>kind of ties in with what he's saying a lot,

1397
01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:51.199
<v Speaker 4>quite a bit. It's very for what do you think

1398
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:53.279
<v Speaker 4>about that? Do you think that we're you know, because

1399
01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:53.800
<v Speaker 4>of our cane.

1400
01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:56.520
<v Speaker 2>We can't think that we all can't be because I mean,

1401
01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.760
<v Speaker 2>you have it's the seed war. You have to in line.

1402
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:03.880
<v Speaker 2>You have the line of the woman, the line of

1403
01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the devil. And like we talked about genetics, they kind of,

1404
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:11.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, breed themselves out, and like the theory of entropy,

1405
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.199
<v Speaker 2>nothing gets better with time. It only degrades, right, And

1406
01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:16.520
<v Speaker 2>the more you interbreed, the weaker and weaker it gets.

1407
01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:20.199
<v Speaker 2>And and just like the parable of the wheat and tears,

1408
01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:23.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people thinks, oh, you know, you could

1409
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:25.560
<v Speaker 2>tell those apart. You know, they noticed it in the parable.

1410
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:28.079
<v Speaker 2>But when you take a look at a picture, and

1411
01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I have pictures of it in the book, when you

1412
01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:33.479
<v Speaker 2>put them side by side, they're identical. You can't tell

1413
01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the difference. The only time you can tell the difference

1414
01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:40.760
<v Speaker 2>has come harvest time, because the wheat there's fruit, and

1415
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>it gets heavy and it bows, it humbly bows. The

1416
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.880
<v Speaker 2>wheat stands proud and tall, and that's how you can

1417
01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:51.720
<v Speaker 2>tell them apart, and you can't tell to a harvest time.

1418
01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:55.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, that still kind of makes sense, because so we're

1419
01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:59.000
<v Speaker 4>our dna, we're degrading, we're really hairy people. Look at

1420
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:00.920
<v Speaker 4>my beard, look at your beard. You know, it still

1421
01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:02.880
<v Speaker 4>kind of makes sense a little bit. I'm not, you know,

1422
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:03.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm not.

1423
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:07.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I see what you're saying, but uh, I'm

1424
01:25:07.079 --> 01:25:10.920
<v Speaker 2>just saying that there has to be a remnant, you know,

1425
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:15.159
<v Speaker 2>a pure bloodline, and that's why. But I'm not saying

1426
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:20.359
<v Speaker 2>that Hell basically we're all mutts, you know what. Maybe

1427
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:23.439
<v Speaker 2>and maybe and maybe it went to hell after the Messiah,

1428
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>but that there had to be a perfected line until

1429
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:31.479
<v Speaker 2>that time because in Christ had to be pure and

1430
01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>that's why he preserved the line. And even with Noah.

1431
01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:37.479
<v Speaker 2>When you go into the etymology, once again, these Hebrew

1432
01:25:37.479 --> 01:25:39.840
<v Speaker 2>words have meaning and they're important, and they get muddied

1433
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:43.239
<v Speaker 2>and lost in translation to English, but it says that

1434
01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Noah was the only righteous man left, and people, oh, here,

1435
01:25:50.279 --> 01:25:52.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, he had no sin. No, it's talking about

1436
01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the blood. That Hebrew word to mem was used in

1437
01:25:57.239 --> 01:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>this sacrificial system for the Lambs without limish.

1438
01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Like when the Bible talks about Noah and it says

1439
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:06.399
<v Speaker 1>that he was perfect in his generations, you know, they say,

1440
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:09.640
<v Speaker 1>like he's perfect and he's a man of like righteousness.

1441
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>But the Bible, and this is the thing with the

1442
01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:16.640
<v Speaker 1>other side, right, they always fall back to that the

1443
01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Bible interprets the Bible. And if I'm going to allow

1444
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:26.479
<v Speaker 1>that to dictate how I'm gonna think about this. You know,

1445
01:26:27.279 --> 01:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>no man is perfect, but no man is We've all

1446
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:35.239
<v Speaker 1>fallen short of all right love, you know, and the

1447
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Bible says that, So I'm going to let that interpret.

1448
01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>There you go, that scenario, you know what I'm saying.

1449
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because I mean it's according to what you know,

1450
01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:47.600
<v Speaker 2>different English translations. Some say perfect, others say righteous. But

1451
01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:51.119
<v Speaker 2>that the Hebrew words there is to mem and that

1452
01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:53.239
<v Speaker 2>same word was you used, Like you said, let the

1453
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Bible interpret the Bible. That's also used talking about the

1454
01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>purity of the blood of the sacrificial animal. They had

1455
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:04.520
<v Speaker 2>to be to Mim, to be sacrificed and without blemish.

1456
01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:08.239
<v Speaker 2>And it's us doing that word association with Noah. He

1457
01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:13.239
<v Speaker 2>was the only to mim one left. And a lot

1458
01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>of people that want to diminish the giant narrative, they'll

1459
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:20.319
<v Speaker 2>be kind of facetious and they'll say, well, if there

1460
01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:23.560
<v Speaker 2>was giants after the flood, that means God failed. You're

1461
01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:26.239
<v Speaker 2>implying God failed now, And I'm like, well, you don't

1462
01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:29.319
<v Speaker 2>know the intentions of God. You know God. I don't

1463
01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:33.279
<v Speaker 2>believe God fails either, but I believe it wasn't to

1464
01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>wipe them out. It was to level the playing field. Yes,

1465
01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:41.359
<v Speaker 2>they said Noah was the only one left, so it

1466
01:27:41.479 --> 01:27:44.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, I'm going to level the playing field here.

1467
01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:49.079
<v Speaker 2>That way, you don't choke out the chosen seed. Rightwise,

1468
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:51.039
<v Speaker 2>because it tells you there was giants on the earth

1469
01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>in those days, and also after it's talking about the flood.

1470
01:27:57.479 --> 01:28:01.039
<v Speaker 3>Some survived that went their little portals and underwater kingdoms

1471
01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:02.159
<v Speaker 3>and all sorts of stuff.

1472
01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Man and even the legends of the Jews and stuff

1473
01:28:05.680 --> 01:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>they say that like the writings of Abraham and some

1474
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>of the targets and stuff. It says that Og rowed

1475
01:28:18.239 --> 01:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>on top of the boat, that Noah fed him through

1476
01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:26.239
<v Speaker 2>a hole in the arc, and it said that Og

1477
01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:31.199
<v Speaker 2>basically pledged his allegiance to Noah and said that if

1478
01:28:31.239 --> 01:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>he would save him, he would be a servant. You know,

1479
01:28:34.279 --> 01:28:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I've observed the Lord and do all these things, and

1480
01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:38.479
<v Speaker 2>that he didn't hold up his end of the bargain.

1481
01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:46.359
<v Speaker 2>And then the Writings of Abraham says that Noah's wife

1482
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>was Nama from the line of Canaan, and it said

1483
01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:56.560
<v Speaker 2>that he told Noah to take her specifically so that

1484
01:28:57.039 --> 01:29:01.279
<v Speaker 2>the serpent seed would be preserved through the flood, to

1485
01:29:01.399 --> 01:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>keep uh the prophecy alive and preserve the seed of

1486
01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the serpent to the end time.

1487
01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:09.840
<v Speaker 4>Wait, Noah's wife was Cannonite.

1488
01:29:11.079 --> 01:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>According to the no this is not canon. This is

1489
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the book of Abraham or the cuttings of Abraham. They

1490
01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:21.199
<v Speaker 2>go in and say, that's how the serpent seed lineage

1491
01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:26.560
<v Speaker 2>made it through the flood. Yeah, that the Lord instructed

1492
01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Noah to take Nama as wife to preserve the serpent

1493
01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>seed to the end time. That way his word and

1494
01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:40.039
<v Speaker 2>his prophecy from Genesis would stay alive and remain true.

1495
01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:43.479
<v Speaker 4>And it isn't there a Ham narrative with this as well?

1496
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:49.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they uncovering of thy father's nakedness, because that's another

1497
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>misunderstood thing. And I talk about that in the book too.

1498
01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh a lot of people, and like we talked about,

1499
01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:58.600
<v Speaker 2>there's so many things that don't make sense. Yeah, it's confusing.

1500
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:01.439
<v Speaker 2>But when you start reading these extra biblical books and

1501
01:30:01.479 --> 01:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>dive deeper into the Hebrew, you get the answers, and

1502
01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:08.199
<v Speaker 2>some of them are strange, some of them are shocking,

1503
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh my god, what, But it makes sense.

1504
01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:16.119
<v Speaker 2>And when you read the literature and go into the Hebrew,

1505
01:30:16.239 --> 01:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's there. So that was one of those

1506
01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:22.600
<v Speaker 2>confusing things. It's like if I was a kid, had

1507
01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:24.199
<v Speaker 2>been at school all day and I come home. My

1508
01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:30.199
<v Speaker 2>father drunk whiskey until he was pissed drunk and passed

1509
01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:32.600
<v Speaker 2>out naked, and I get off the school bus and

1510
01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:35.840
<v Speaker 2>come home and see him laying there. How is that

1511
01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:38.840
<v Speaker 2>my fault? How am I going to be cursed? That

1512
01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:39.760
<v Speaker 2>ain't right?

1513
01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:41.840
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna be cursed with a bad father?

1514
01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:46.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, But when you get into that story, what

1515
01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:52.279
<v Speaker 2>does it say. It says that Ham uncovered his father's nakedness.

1516
01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:58.039
<v Speaker 2>So when you go into Leviticus chapter eighteen, it says

1517
01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>there plainly to sleep with thy father's wife is to

1518
01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:05.520
<v Speaker 2>uncover thy father's naked Bible.

1519
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Interpret Bible. Right, let's just yeah.

1520
01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:12.720
<v Speaker 2>And once again you see it repeated. This was an

1521
01:31:12.720 --> 01:31:16.520
<v Speaker 2>active rebellion in the ancient world. Absolute when he run

1522
01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:18.520
<v Speaker 2>David out of the kingdom, first thing he did, he

1523
01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>pitched a ten on David's house, went into all the

1524
01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:24.720
<v Speaker 2>concubines in the side of all of Israel, Ruben to

1525
01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>take over the family, slept with his father's concubines. This

1526
01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:32.159
<v Speaker 2>was a active dominance and rebellion in the ancient world.

1527
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Take power Bible, interpreting the Bible.

1528
01:31:35.319 --> 01:31:39.279
<v Speaker 4>Right, And Jordan Peterson did what you're talking about. Jordan

1529
01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Peterson did a presentation and say what you will about

1530
01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:46.279
<v Speaker 4>Jordan Peterson, but he actually did a presentation about how

1531
01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:49.680
<v Speaker 4>there is and he did like you know the hyperlinks

1532
01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:55.039
<v Speaker 4>hyperlinks right, there's over or there's sixty seven thousand cross

1533
01:31:55.119 --> 01:32:01.199
<v Speaker 4>references in the Bible. That is mind blowing, that is crazy,

1534
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:02.279
<v Speaker 4>it's supernatural.

1535
01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1536
01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the garments are in that story too. But

1537
01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you got to have the eyes to see in the context,

1538
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:12.239
<v Speaker 2>because in that story, was it say after he uncovers

1539
01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:15.760
<v Speaker 2>his father's nakedness, after he sleeps with his mother, he

1540
01:32:15.800 --> 01:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>goes outside, And here's me adding to in my interpretation.

1541
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:23.800
<v Speaker 2>He comes out and tells his brothers, you know, hey,

1542
01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:28.079
<v Speaker 2>dad's a drunk. He's unfit to rule. It's our time

1543
01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:31.479
<v Speaker 2>to rule. I just did this deed. You go in

1544
01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:34.479
<v Speaker 2>and do it, and we'll split the world up amongst

1545
01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:37.399
<v Speaker 2>ourselves and we'll rule. He can't take on all three

1546
01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:41.319
<v Speaker 2>of us. Join me in this rebellion, brothers, and they refuse.

1547
01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Now that that's where my interpretation ends. But when you

1548
01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:46.840
<v Speaker 2>get to the Bible, does it say that once he

1549
01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>uncovered his father's nakedness, that shim takes a garment and

1550
01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.479
<v Speaker 2>him and his brother Jacob place it on their backs,

1551
01:32:56.880 --> 01:33:01.600
<v Speaker 2>walk backwards and cover their father's nakedness. I said to

1552
01:33:01.960 --> 01:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Derek Gilbert on his show, and he's a big brain

1553
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:06.800
<v Speaker 2>guy and knows this stuff, I said, I can't prove it, Derek,

1554
01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I said, but I think that those garments that are

1555
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:14.600
<v Speaker 2>mentioned there are the supernatural garments from the garden of God,

1556
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I said. And it makes sense theologically, I said, because

1557
01:33:18.079 --> 01:33:21.600
<v Speaker 2>this is the symbol of kingship in priesthood and authority.

1558
01:33:21.680 --> 01:33:25.159
<v Speaker 2>This is the crown symbolically, So if Ham was trying

1559
01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:27.960
<v Speaker 2>to take over the family, take over the authority position,

1560
01:33:28.039 --> 01:33:30.600
<v Speaker 2>how fitting would it be for them to take the

1561
01:33:30.680 --> 01:33:35.279
<v Speaker 2>actual symbol of kingship and authority and place it back

1562
01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:39.520
<v Speaker 2>upon their father refusing the rebellion. And he gets to

1563
01:33:39.680 --> 01:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>typing on his computer, looking in logos and stuff, and

1564
01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:44.720
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you may be onto something. Justin he said,

1565
01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:48.800
<v Speaker 2>when you go into the Hebrew, he said, doesn't say

1566
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:54.079
<v Speaker 2>a garment like the English translation say. It says they

1567
01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:59.279
<v Speaker 2>took the garment. I had a definite article assigned to it.

1568
01:33:59.319 --> 01:34:02.960
<v Speaker 2>So there was a pacific garment in mind in that story.

1569
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:07.079
<v Speaker 2>And how fitting was it that Shim, the eldest brother,

1570
01:34:07.159 --> 01:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the one that was going to get the birth right,

1571
01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the one that ends up getting that the priesthood position,

1572
01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:16.079
<v Speaker 2>takes the garment and then him and his brother walk

1573
01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:17.600
<v Speaker 2>backwards and place it over their father.

1574
01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Right, dude, there's something to the garment, yeah right? Really

1575
01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:26.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely spiritual? Yeah yeah, I mean but there's.

1576
01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:27.760
<v Speaker 4>A physical it's a trail.

1577
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's both.

1578
01:34:28.960 --> 01:34:31.880
<v Speaker 4>I think something's going So it's like, what is it like?

1579
01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Actually in the sixty six book Cannon with with the

1580
01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:38.359
<v Speaker 2>with Joseph, because you follow it, Esau gets it right,

1581
01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>and then uh, Jacob ends up stealing them because in

1582
01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>that story where he wraps the goat fur around him,

1583
01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:48.600
<v Speaker 2>that the garments are there too. People look over it.

1584
01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Does it say as the final cherry on top? It

1585
01:34:52.119 --> 01:34:55.039
<v Speaker 2>says that Rachel goes into esaus hint and takes his

1586
01:34:56.159 --> 01:35:00.399
<v Speaker 2>special garment and places it upon Jacob.

1587
01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:05.039
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it's like a like a gemstone or something.

1588
01:35:05.039 --> 01:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>What we were like the priestly ephod you know, the

1589
01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:11.560
<v Speaker 2>tolestones many colors, and then you see it later because

1590
01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:15.560
<v Speaker 2>now Jacob has stolen it from Esau. Right, if you

1591
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>follow the cannon, well, who's the son of Jacob whose

1592
01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>name has later changed to Israel. He has a son

1593
01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:28.439
<v Speaker 2>named Joseph, and does he give him? He gives him

1594
01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:33.239
<v Speaker 2>a coat of many colors maril onyx topaz jasper. That

1595
01:35:33.279 --> 01:35:36.319
<v Speaker 2>would be a multi colored I wonder if.

1596
01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:39.920
<v Speaker 3>God's blessed those gemstones and then they wear those gemstones.

1597
01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>It's probably power to it as well.

1598
01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:44.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there is. And it says in that story

1599
01:35:44.399 --> 01:35:47.520
<v Speaker 2>when as soon as Joseph has given this coat of

1600
01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:52.359
<v Speaker 2>many colors. What happens He starts having prophetic dreams and visions,

1601
01:35:52.920 --> 01:35:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and what does he telling his brothers? He said, brothers,

1602
01:35:55.880 --> 01:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I have visions that the sons or the stars of heaven,

1603
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>which was the angels the stars of heaven bow down

1604
01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:08.840
<v Speaker 2>before me. The wheat of the field bows before me,

1605
01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:13.279
<v Speaker 2>and you, my brothers, bow before me. You will be

1606
01:36:13.359 --> 01:36:14.039
<v Speaker 2>my servants.

1607
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>And didn't like that?

1608
01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:19.159
<v Speaker 2>And what do they do? They send him off? Yeah,

1609
01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:24.359
<v Speaker 2>and they says they take the garments from him, or

1610
01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:26.840
<v Speaker 2>at least a peace, because it says they took a

1611
01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:30.680
<v Speaker 2>piece of the garment and dipped it in blood and

1612
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:32.520
<v Speaker 2>took it back to their father and said, this is

1613
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>oz left of your son. You know, a wild beast

1614
01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:39.359
<v Speaker 2>got him. And then we see those garments. I think

1615
01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>in the Book of Revelation was it saying when when

1616
01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Christ returns, he has on a powerful garment that stained

1617
01:36:47.319 --> 01:36:51.439
<v Speaker 2>in blood, just like Joseph's garment was dipped in blood

1618
01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:55.680
<v Speaker 2>with the name on the thigh, the King of Kings

1619
01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:58.359
<v Speaker 2>and Lord of Lords. And he says he rules with

1620
01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:03.439
<v Speaker 2>a rod of iron, that is the garments of power,

1621
01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the supernatural garments from the Garden of God, and the

1622
01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>staff of Yahweh, the Moses staff. It says he rules

1623
01:37:10.279 --> 01:37:13.439
<v Speaker 2>with the rod of Iron. So symbolically, in Revelation, Christ

1624
01:37:13.479 --> 01:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>returns as to the king of kings, lord of hosts,

1625
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:18.199
<v Speaker 2>and he has on the supernatural garments from the Garden

1626
01:37:18.199 --> 01:37:21.800
<v Speaker 2>of God and the staff of Yahweh the rod of iron.

1627
01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:26.079
<v Speaker 2>So symbolically, I think it's painting that, you know, the

1628
01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:30.720
<v Speaker 2>real second Adam, the one with kingship, priesthood and dominion,

1629
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:34.560
<v Speaker 2>is here and he's got all the symbols of authority

1630
01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:35.359
<v Speaker 2>with him.

1631
01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Dan right, I wonder if it contributed to Satan's pride,

1632
01:37:43.159 --> 01:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>like having these garments right, It's almost like I believe

1633
01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's Isaiah. Could could be wrong, but it's where you know,

1634
01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:54.359
<v Speaker 1>he basically it is saying he's going to exalt himself

1635
01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>above the stars of heaven. He's going to basically be bigger,

1636
01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:01.399
<v Speaker 1>better than God. And we know that that's false, but

1637
01:38:02.239 --> 01:38:05.720
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like these garments when he was in that time,

1638
01:38:06.039 --> 01:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe he was saying it around that timeline there, and

1639
01:38:11.319 --> 01:38:14.439
<v Speaker 1>he felt like he could just take authority, you know,

1640
01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and when he's stripped from him, you know, he's super

1641
01:38:19.840 --> 01:38:20.399
<v Speaker 1>pissed off.

1642
01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>That explains hell of a lot of motive. I explains

1643
01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:26.560
<v Speaker 2>why Satan hates you. The hatred, the thing that he wore,

1644
01:38:26.640 --> 01:38:29.720
<v Speaker 2>that was his symbol of kingship and priesthood and authority.

1645
01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:33.840
<v Speaker 2>This beautiful garment that made him something special was taken

1646
01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:37.119
<v Speaker 2>from him and given to his younger brother that's weaker

1647
01:38:37.119 --> 01:38:39.600
<v Speaker 2>than him, that rolls into pig extrament. According to the

1648
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>parable of the prodigal son, that alone would make Satan

1649
01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:46.760
<v Speaker 2>hates you. And that same story in Isaiah, that's Isaiah

1650
01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>fourteen was to talk about. In that same chapter about Satan,

1651
01:38:51.079 --> 01:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>it says, you were the most beautiful tree in the garden.

1652
01:38:57.439 --> 01:39:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Your branches went up into the heavens and was more

1653
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>beautiful than all the other trees of Eden. And the

1654
01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:08.039
<v Speaker 2>other trees were jealous of your beauty. And was it

1655
01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:11.680
<v Speaker 2>saying Adam and Eve partook of They partook of a

1656
01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:14.319
<v Speaker 2>tree right, and they enjoyed.

1657
01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, why are people so upset about the serpentcy theory.

1658
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I think there's aday school teacher like it apparently knows

1659
01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:25.439
<v Speaker 3>more than them.

1660
01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it really seems. It really seems to like hit

1661
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>people in the gut. At least from when we had

1662
01:39:32.920 --> 01:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>joy on we talked about it we got a few

1663
01:39:37.399 --> 01:39:39.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, comments back, we got, we got some live

1664
01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:42.479
<v Speaker 1>chat discussion going on, and it seemed like it was

1665
01:39:42.680 --> 01:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a theory that you know, like should not be discussed,

1666
01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:49.439
<v Speaker 1>but you know, I think there's something to it scripturally,

1667
01:39:50.119 --> 01:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1668
01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the thing is is that remove all of

1669
01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:58.439
<v Speaker 2>your preconceived notions, remove all your dogma and your teachings.

1670
01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Just read what it says is read what the extra

1671
01:40:01.319 --> 01:40:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Biblical books say, and what does your discernment and common

1672
01:40:04.840 --> 01:40:08.760
<v Speaker 2>sense say. I'm guilty when when I first heard this

1673
01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:12.039
<v Speaker 2>serpent seed, I listened to highly intelligent people like Michael

1674
01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Heiser and others that laughed at this theory, said it

1675
01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:19.680
<v Speaker 2>held no water, and they went into you know, uh,

1676
01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:25.439
<v Speaker 2>etymology and etymology, etymologically, this cannot be true, and uh

1677
01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:31.399
<v Speaker 2>if he was of the serpent and it would just

1678
01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>come right out and say it, it doesn't say it,

1679
01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I talked about earlier, and uh, or

1680
01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:39.479
<v Speaker 2>you know the extra Biblical books that just you know,

1681
01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:41.399
<v Speaker 2>come right out and spell it out for you. Oh

1682
01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:44.560
<v Speaker 2>it was written, you know, the latest ones we have,

1683
01:40:44.720 --> 01:40:46.439
<v Speaker 2>like the Targets of Jonathan. You know, it was like

1684
01:40:46.479 --> 01:40:50.199
<v Speaker 2>six to eight hundred years after the fact, right, so

1685
01:40:50.239 --> 01:40:53.399
<v Speaker 2>therefore it's no and void. Well then if that's the case,

1686
01:40:53.439 --> 01:40:54.960
<v Speaker 2>if that's if that's the way you look at it,

1687
01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:57.640
<v Speaker 2>then you need to throw the entire Bible away. You

1688
01:40:57.680 --> 01:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>think Moses was writing that in real lifetime. He was

1689
01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:03.279
<v Speaker 2>right about creation and all these other things that happened

1690
01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:06.319
<v Speaker 2>thousands of years later. So if you take that that

1691
01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that fallacy point. Oh well, this book was written eight

1692
01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:14.880
<v Speaker 2>hundred years after the fact, so it's no good. Then

1693
01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:17.800
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna throw the whole Bible away down. That's a fallacy,

1694
01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's a nomenclature. So if you go in there,

1695
01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:27.880
<v Speaker 2>common I mean, just remove it, like I said, remove

1696
01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>all those filters, all that dogma teachings. I mean it's hard,

1697
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:33.279
<v Speaker 2>it is, but just read it for what it says

1698
01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and use your common sense. Read between the lines. Remember

1699
01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:40.800
<v Speaker 2>proverb says, it's the glory of God to conceal a thing.

1700
01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>It's the glory of kings to search things out. There's

1701
01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:46.720
<v Speaker 2>so many warnings in the Bible too. You know, kirst

1702
01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>is a man who adds it takes away from this word.

1703
01:41:49.439 --> 01:41:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Why is the warning there? If it can't be done,

1704
01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and if Satan could change and manipulate one thing in

1705
01:41:56.840 --> 01:42:03.760
<v Speaker 2>this text, would it not be to smoke screen his seed. Sure,

1706
01:42:04.399 --> 01:42:07.399
<v Speaker 2>he's placing all of his end time bets on this.

1707
01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:10.159
<v Speaker 2>He's got all cards on the table. The chips are

1708
01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:13.399
<v Speaker 2>in on this bet. It talks about the anti Christ

1709
01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:15.760
<v Speaker 2>and the end times. This is where he's placing all

1710
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:19.039
<v Speaker 2>of his bets. Of course, he's going to try to

1711
01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:23.600
<v Speaker 2>cloud this and get people to reject it and laugh

1712
01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:28.680
<v Speaker 2>at it because he benefits from it if it's true. Yeah,

1713
01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:32.760
<v Speaker 2>there is no serpent syd you know. So yeah, yeah,

1714
01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:34.439
<v Speaker 2>you ain't looking at it, you know what I mean,

1715
01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:36.520
<v Speaker 2>You're not getting in his way of his playing right.

1716
01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:38.439
<v Speaker 1>But when you read that.

1717
01:42:40.199 --> 01:42:45.039
<v Speaker 2>It says that there was this tree and that Adam

1718
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and Eve partook of it, and Isaiah fourteen Satan was

1719
01:42:51.880 --> 01:42:57.239
<v Speaker 2>the most beautiful tree in Eden. His branches were glorious

1720
01:42:57.239 --> 01:42:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and extended into the heavens, and all the other trees

1721
01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:03.279
<v Speaker 2>of Eden were jealous of his beauty. It compares Satan

1722
01:43:03.319 --> 01:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to a tree there, and it says that they partook

1723
01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:12.000
<v Speaker 2>of this tree, and it says they ate in English.

1724
01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:14.960
<v Speaker 2>But when you take that word, you look into the Hebrew.

1725
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>That same word several times in the Bible is translated

1726
01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:23.199
<v Speaker 2>to enjoys. So if you take that word and put

1727
01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>it in there, Eve partook of the tree, which Isaiah

1728
01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:31.399
<v Speaker 2>fourteen compared satan to a tree. It says she partook

1729
01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:36.800
<v Speaker 2>of the tree and she enjoyed. Then she goes to

1730
01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:43.840
<v Speaker 2>her husband, and he too enjoyed. The serpent planted his seed.

1731
01:43:44.720 --> 01:43:47.760
<v Speaker 2>And then she took what she learned the act of

1732
01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>sex and showed it to her husband, and he enjoyed

1733
01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>it too, and were germinated.

1734
01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:58.079
<v Speaker 1>That day, right, and he did eat right, and he

1735
01:43:58.159 --> 01:44:01.359
<v Speaker 1>did enjoy actual act or something.

1736
01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:04.079
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, she had sex with the serpent. She

1737
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what sex or cat dog. And then so

1738
01:44:07.359 --> 01:44:09.359
<v Speaker 2>she went back and done it with Adam. Hey, let

1739
01:44:09.399 --> 01:44:13.399
<v Speaker 2>me show you this thing. Somebody just you're gonna enjoy it.

1740
01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's a real phenomenon that can happen where you know,

1741
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>two men can impregnate the same egg.

1742
01:44:18.760 --> 01:44:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you see it all the time. And so then

1743
01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:26.399
<v Speaker 2>you take that context. This is eye for an eye,

1744
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:29.439
<v Speaker 2>tooth for a tooth. Every single curse that God ever

1745
01:44:29.479 --> 01:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>gives out correlates to the crime. If your mother told

1746
01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:36.600
<v Speaker 2>you you can't have a cookie before dinner, and you

1747
01:44:36.640 --> 01:44:38.520
<v Speaker 2>sneak up, you grab when you start eating and your

1748
01:44:38.520 --> 01:44:42.600
<v Speaker 2>mother walks in. What are you gonna do? Right, Yeah,

1749
01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:45.359
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna cover where the transgression and sin was and

1750
01:44:45.399 --> 01:44:49.640
<v Speaker 2>where the shame is. Inactly scenario, it's the mouth. So

1751
01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>what happens, God shows up and once they enjoy this

1752
01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:56.880
<v Speaker 2>tree and God shows up, where they do they cover

1753
01:44:56.960 --> 01:45:00.199
<v Speaker 2>their private parts because that's where the sin was, That's

1754
01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:03.199
<v Speaker 2>where the shame was, That's where the transgression was. Now,

1755
01:45:03.239 --> 01:45:07.520
<v Speaker 2>look at the sin and the cursing. All the cursing

1756
01:45:07.560 --> 01:45:11.199
<v Speaker 2>has to do with sexual reproduction. If the sin was

1757
01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:14.880
<v Speaker 2>something they ate, they'd have been cursed with sour stomachs,

1758
01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>rotten teeth, something that correlated with eating, not sexual reproduction.

1759
01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Mm hm.

1760
01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:25.600
<v Speaker 2>All the cursings was to say, uh, he will increase

1761
01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:30.199
<v Speaker 2>her her pain in child bearing. She would have minstrual

1762
01:45:30.239 --> 01:45:34.880
<v Speaker 2>cramps and periods. He would curse, there would be there

1763
01:45:34.880 --> 01:45:37.039
<v Speaker 2>would be a curse on her seed, there would be

1764
01:45:37.079 --> 01:45:42.399
<v Speaker 2>a curse on the serpent's seed. There would be enity

1765
01:45:42.479 --> 01:45:44.319
<v Speaker 2>between her seed and thy seed.

1766
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's why.

1767
01:45:48.079 --> 01:45:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, all common sense logic points to this, right,

1768
01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:57.319
<v Speaker 2>don't get lost in the weeds of oh Edgemonologically, this

1769
01:45:57.359 --> 01:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>word means just it can't mean that, and throw all

1770
01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:05.840
<v Speaker 2>the smoke screen away usually common sense and you discernment.

1771
01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:09.039
<v Speaker 2>People can, like we talked about earlier, somebody could take

1772
01:46:09.039 --> 01:46:11.039
<v Speaker 2>a verse and twist it and throw all kinds of

1773
01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:14.760
<v Speaker 2>words salad at you and smoke screen and points you

1774
01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:15.720
<v Speaker 2>and get you lost.

1775
01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, keep it.

1776
01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Simple, stupid? Yeah, I love travils Garcia. He says that

1777
01:46:21.159 --> 01:46:23.119
<v Speaker 2>all the time. Kiss keep it self stupid.

1778
01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, I love that.

1779
01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:30.319
<v Speaker 2>And Kine's name adamologically that means acquired. The name is

1780
01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:32.760
<v Speaker 2>so important. I mean, I'm sure all of us are

1781
01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:39.039
<v Speaker 2>fathers here. When we had our kid. That wasn't something

1782
01:46:39.079 --> 01:46:41.279
<v Speaker 2>we just said, Oh I was just name it this. No,

1783
01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:44.279
<v Speaker 2>that's something where we come up with ten twenty different names,

1784
01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:48.159
<v Speaker 2>think it through for months. It's something we choose very

1785
01:46:48.199 --> 01:46:52.479
<v Speaker 2>carefully and with meaning. What loving mother names their kid

1786
01:46:52.600 --> 01:46:58.239
<v Speaker 2>acquired because he was acquired. And then you go to

1787
01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Abel's name, mean it means breath why because he was

1788
01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:09.359
<v Speaker 2>made in the image of Adam, because God breathed the

1789
01:47:09.399 --> 01:47:13.199
<v Speaker 2>breath of life into Adam. He was made in the

1790
01:47:13.239 --> 01:47:16.479
<v Speaker 2>image of Adam. Cain was not because Cain was acquired.

1791
01:47:18.680 --> 01:47:20.159
<v Speaker 2>And then you get into the Book of John. He

1792
01:47:20.159 --> 01:47:22.039
<v Speaker 2>comes right out and says it, man, I mean, what

1793
01:47:22.640 --> 01:47:27.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, what else do you want? Cain was of

1794
01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:33.399
<v Speaker 2>the wicked one. And then uh, Jesus has that conversation

1795
01:47:33.439 --> 01:47:36.359
<v Speaker 2>with the Pharisees. You're of your father, the devil who

1796
01:47:36.399 --> 01:47:39.359
<v Speaker 2>was a murderer. From the beginning, he's talking about Cain,

1797
01:47:40.199 --> 01:47:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and most people stop there, keep going, you go back

1798
01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and forth. The response of the Pharisees is pretty damning.

1799
01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:49.439
<v Speaker 2>What do they say? Remember this is the context. It's Cain.

1800
01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:55.880
<v Speaker 2>We were not born a foreign acation like Cain was.

1801
01:47:56.600 --> 01:48:00.399
<v Speaker 2>We have but one father. We can debate all day

1802
01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:03.520
<v Speaker 2>long whether it's physically true or not. We cannot debate

1803
01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:05.720
<v Speaker 2>that this was the mind and set and the belief

1804
01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>of those people. And then you had mentioned earlier Taylor

1805
01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the Beguiled and all the sexual connotations to it. Well

1806
01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:17.319
<v Speaker 2>you go, you go to Second Corinthians thirteen was paulse

1807
01:48:18.279 --> 01:48:20.720
<v Speaker 2>He's talking to the Church of corinth and he says,

1808
01:48:21.319 --> 01:48:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I have a righteous jealousy. And this was the paradigm

1809
01:48:24.319 --> 01:48:26.720
<v Speaker 2>buster for me. This was the final nail on the coffin.

1810
01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:30.840
<v Speaker 2>He said, I have a righteous jealousy over you. I

1811
01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:37.039
<v Speaker 2>prepared you as a chast state virgin for one husband.

1812
01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:44.079
<v Speaker 2>But I fear that you will be beguiled boom, as

1813
01:48:44.159 --> 01:48:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Eve was beguiled by that twisting serpent. Both crazy, man,

1814
01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:53.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, how much more do you need? Folks?

1815
01:48:53.199 --> 01:48:55.079
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know it man. You know. You know

1816
01:48:55.159 --> 01:49:01.439
<v Speaker 1>what's very interesting is there's a verse. It's Proverbs thirty twenty,

1817
01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and it says, such is the way of an adulterous woman.

1818
01:49:05.319 --> 01:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>She eateth and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have

1819
01:49:08.720 --> 01:49:12.279
<v Speaker 1>done no wickedness. And so what's interesting is that word

1820
01:49:12.479 --> 01:49:18.319
<v Speaker 1>edith is the same exact word used in Genesis.

1821
01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:18.960
<v Speaker 4>As Proverbs thirty twenty.

1822
01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's the same exact verb that's used in

1823
01:49:24.600 --> 01:49:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Genesis pretending to eating the fruit. So we obviously see

1824
01:49:28.399 --> 01:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>here that it's kind of you know, Proverbs is sharing

1825
01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it to be a sexual act, right or can be implied,

1826
01:49:39.319 --> 01:49:43.439
<v Speaker 1>And and you know they're writing it based off of

1827
01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>what they know in Genesis, right, like they're they're they're

1828
01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:50.720
<v Speaker 1>off that context, how they believe and see it kind

1829
01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:54.079
<v Speaker 1>of like what you're saying, right, And I found that

1830
01:49:54.119 --> 01:49:55.159
<v Speaker 1>interesting as well.

1831
01:49:55.439 --> 01:49:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Doc, what was that verse you were talking about?

1832
01:49:57.680 --> 01:49:58.960
<v Speaker 4>Just now? With the guiled with John.

1833
01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh the second Corinthians.

1834
01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh, second Corinthians.

1835
01:50:04.439 --> 01:50:07.439
<v Speaker 2>Pole's talking to the Church of corinth I think it's

1836
01:50:07.800 --> 01:50:12.720
<v Speaker 2>thirteen second Corinthians. Thirteen. I think I got in the book.

1837
01:50:12.760 --> 01:50:15.079
<v Speaker 2>I have to look to be sure, but I know

1838
01:50:15.159 --> 01:50:16.159
<v Speaker 2>it's six Corinthians.

1839
01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:19.239
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, that's all I need. That's just yeah, fat,

1840
01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:21.720
<v Speaker 4>it's just fat. It's just it's plain his day. It's

1841
01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:24.079
<v Speaker 4>plain his days. Like you said, that was the now

1842
01:50:24.119 --> 01:50:24.399
<v Speaker 4>and the.

1843
01:50:24.359 --> 01:50:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Sexual connotation and everything he said, Yo, he said, I

1844
01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:31.680
<v Speaker 2>have a righteous jealousy over you. I prepared you for

1845
01:50:31.760 --> 01:50:36.159
<v Speaker 2>one husband as a chest state virtue. But I fear

1846
01:50:36.319 --> 01:50:41.000
<v Speaker 2>you will be beguiled as Eve was beguiled by that

1847
01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:41.920
<v Speaker 2>twisting serpent.

1848
01:50:42.520 --> 01:50:47.199
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. It's crazy, man, you know. And I really

1849
01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>think this is what happened. I'm led to believe that

1850
01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:58.199
<v Speaker 1>this is what took place in the garden. It plays

1851
01:50:58.199 --> 01:51:00.880
<v Speaker 1>in with the fallen Angel incursion, that plays in with

1852
01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Seating's agenda. It plays in with white Christ had to

1853
01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:12.119
<v Speaker 1>come into the you know, uh seth lineage explains why

1854
01:51:12.199 --> 01:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Christ had to die, explains a lot of things.

1855
01:51:17.399 --> 01:51:20.039
<v Speaker 2>And why keep up with the genealogies, why keep up

1856
01:51:20.039 --> 01:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>with the this one, but got that from this one?

1857
01:51:22.039 --> 01:51:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Got that one? Why remove Kane from those genealogies and

1858
01:51:25.199 --> 01:51:28.039
<v Speaker 2>have two distinct lines in mapping them the whole way?

1859
01:51:28.600 --> 01:51:32.720
<v Speaker 2>If there was not this incident, and if this didn't happen,

1860
01:51:33.279 --> 01:51:37.479
<v Speaker 2>where is the serpent seed? What happened in Genesis six?

1861
01:51:38.119 --> 01:51:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Angel beings come down and lusted after the dollars of men,

1862
01:51:40.960 --> 01:51:44.279
<v Speaker 2>had sex in pro created. This is not out of

1863
01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:47.560
<v Speaker 2>the norm of our of our scripture people. It's hook

1864
01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:53.359
<v Speaker 2>line and sinker script throughout the entire biblical narrative. Why

1865
01:51:53.880 --> 01:51:56.920
<v Speaker 2>reject this and and act this way and get so

1866
01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:59.600
<v Speaker 2>tore up when somebody suggests it and points it out

1867
01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:05.359
<v Speaker 2>because there's some spiritual warfare behind it. That's why they

1868
01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:07.600
<v Speaker 2>don't want you to see this. They don't want you

1869
01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to know this.

1870
01:52:08.359 --> 01:52:08.760
<v Speaker 4>The devil.

1871
01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:11.439
<v Speaker 2>He wants this obsuscated and wants you not to look

1872
01:52:11.439 --> 01:52:11.880
<v Speaker 2>this way.

1873
01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, And you know, the fallen angels.

1874
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:17.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they had a meeting or seating had

1875
01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:19.039
<v Speaker 1>a meeting with the fallen angels. It was like, Hey,

1876
01:52:19.319 --> 01:52:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I did this in the garden and it dint and

1877
01:52:24.399 --> 01:52:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm screwed, and uh, you know, we got to really

1878
01:52:27.680 --> 01:52:30.479
<v Speaker 1>try and screw this up here because you know, he's

1879
01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:32.560
<v Speaker 1>going to crush my head, right, And.

1880
01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:34.920
<v Speaker 2>The Book of Enoch implies it when you read in there,

1881
01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people look over it, but it

1882
01:52:36.119 --> 01:52:40.640
<v Speaker 2>says in there that the fallen angels became subject to

1883
01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:46.079
<v Speaker 2>the devil. It was his idea. He planted the freaking

1884
01:52:46.279 --> 01:52:50.119
<v Speaker 2>dot in their heads, right, the fallen angels, the watchers

1885
01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:52.920
<v Speaker 2>became subject to the devil.

1886
01:52:52.960 --> 01:52:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Right right. He wants to tarnish the DNA, you know.

1887
01:52:58.159 --> 01:53:01.159
<v Speaker 2>Because he wants his position back. It's it's it's like,

1888
01:53:01.239 --> 01:53:04.159
<v Speaker 2>if I can't have it, I'll burn it down. This

1889
01:53:04.239 --> 01:53:07.600
<v Speaker 2>was once my this was once my place so fast

1890
01:53:07.680 --> 01:53:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I was the king in priesthood and looked over this realm.

1891
01:53:11.159 --> 01:53:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Me and my children had it, and I was the king.

1892
01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:17.520
<v Speaker 2>It was taken from me and given to this lower being.

1893
01:53:19.119 --> 01:53:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't have it back, so I'll burn the damn

1894
01:53:22.039 --> 01:53:22.840
<v Speaker 2>thing to the ground.

1895
01:53:24.399 --> 01:53:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, Seriously, that's what it comes down to, at least

1896
01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:31.760
<v Speaker 1>on a level that we can understand. You know, it's

1897
01:53:31.760 --> 01:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>probably crazier and greater and oh yeah, way more times, right, oh.

1898
01:53:35.880 --> 01:53:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, But that's the easiest way that our little

1899
01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:45.760
<v Speaker 2>minds can understand this. Ten d chess game that's going on.

1900
01:53:46.079 --> 01:53:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow wow, So we're kind of getting to that

1901
01:53:50.199 --> 01:53:54.239
<v Speaker 1>time doc where I wanted to kind of unless you

1902
01:53:54.239 --> 01:53:56.960
<v Speaker 1>guys got any other questions you want to get with

1903
01:53:57.039 --> 01:53:59.880
<v Speaker 1>him on or I wanted to kind of wrap it

1904
01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:08.560
<v Speaker 1>up towards you know, you're are you filming a documentary?

1905
01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Are you still getting into that or Yeah?

1906
01:54:11.399 --> 01:54:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I got several of them. I got two that I've

1907
01:54:15.159 --> 01:54:18.439
<v Speaker 2>got like probably sixty to eighty percent of them done.

1908
01:54:18.680 --> 01:54:22.479
<v Speaker 2>I just have to put it together. And this this weekend,

1909
01:54:23.399 --> 01:54:25.920
<v Speaker 2>me and a group of people are hanging out and

1910
01:54:25.960 --> 01:54:28.640
<v Speaker 2>doing some more filming, and I think that's going to

1911
01:54:28.680 --> 01:54:31.439
<v Speaker 2>be some of the final puzzle pieces for the one

1912
01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that I'm working on. Gotcha, but one of them's one

1913
01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:37.880
<v Speaker 2>of them is biblical Bigfoot and I'm kind of tying

1914
01:54:37.920 --> 01:54:41.560
<v Speaker 2>this narrative in and then the other one is on

1915
01:54:41.600 --> 01:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the mountains. So I've been going around and getting drone

1916
01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:49.880
<v Speaker 2>footage of the mounds and interviewing people and compiling interviews

1917
01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:52.159
<v Speaker 2>and footage of some of these mounds and stuff.

1918
01:54:52.359 --> 01:54:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Nice. That's going to be a pretty cool one. The

1919
01:54:54.119 --> 01:54:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Serpent Mountains in Ohio or kind of gnarly. Yeah, I

1920
01:54:57.880 --> 01:54:58.560
<v Speaker 1>read into.

1921
01:54:58.439 --> 01:55:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I actually have drone footage. I was kicked out of

1922
01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Serpent Maun. I took one for the team, nice and

1923
01:55:03.600 --> 01:55:06.359
<v Speaker 2>signs everywhere no drones, no drones. I was like, yeah,

1924
01:55:06.520 --> 01:55:08.520
<v Speaker 2>screw screw forgiveness.

1925
01:55:09.279 --> 01:55:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know if you guys caught it,

1926
01:55:12.560 --> 01:55:17.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know, the the pope obviously right, he passed away.

1927
01:55:17.760 --> 01:55:22.760
<v Speaker 1>But at his whole ceremony thing, there were guards with

1928
01:55:23.239 --> 01:55:27.520
<v Speaker 1>drone guns like specifically meant for drones, right, and it

1929
01:55:27.560 --> 01:55:30.239
<v Speaker 1>could take them out of the sky boom some sort

1930
01:55:30.279 --> 01:55:34.640
<v Speaker 1>of like emp pulse or something. It disconnects it from

1931
01:55:34.680 --> 01:55:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the user and so it just falls to the ground. Wow,

1932
01:55:37.960 --> 01:55:40.439
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of interesting. But so you said that you're

1933
01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:44.279
<v Speaker 1>you're going out, you're getting more film or you're filming more.

1934
01:55:46.039 --> 01:55:47.560
<v Speaker 1>What do you are? You? Is it? Where are you?

1935
01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:48.159
<v Speaker 4>What are you doing?

1936
01:55:48.399 --> 01:55:49.920
<v Speaker 1>So you're going to the mountains tomorrow?

1937
01:55:51.319 --> 01:55:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I come from there today to talk with you guys.

1938
01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:56.640
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, a bunch of us have got together and

1939
01:55:57.079 --> 01:55:59.920
<v Speaker 2>we're we're up in the mountains in an undisclosed location.

1940
01:56:04.239 --> 01:56:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's awesome.

1941
01:56:07.399 --> 01:56:11.239
<v Speaker 2>So we're we're going out there and going through the woods.

1942
01:56:11.359 --> 01:56:14.239
<v Speaker 2>And I got a buddy that's a big squatch hunter.

1943
01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:17.319
<v Speaker 2>And he's got a place that he's took me to

1944
01:56:17.359 --> 01:56:21.880
<v Speaker 2>this more than one occasion. But he's gotten lots of

1945
01:56:22.479 --> 01:56:28.800
<v Speaker 2>pictures of shadowy figure entities and stuff, lots of really

1946
01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:32.600
<v Speaker 2>big tracks. He's even got some some castings and moldings.

1947
01:56:33.199 --> 01:56:39.319
<v Speaker 2>We're talking footprints with distinct toe prints and twenty two

1948
01:56:39.359 --> 01:56:43.600
<v Speaker 2>inches long, you know, eleven to twelve inches wide. I

1949
01:56:43.640 --> 01:56:47.159
<v Speaker 2>mean that's huge, some big feet prints.

1950
01:56:48.239 --> 01:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>What's shack walking around in the mark? Yeah, that's funny, man. No,

1951
01:56:53.199 --> 01:56:56.159
<v Speaker 1>that that's cool. So you guys found some some tracks

1952
01:56:56.760 --> 01:56:58.800
<v Speaker 1>or that's been recorded a little bit.

1953
01:56:58.840 --> 01:56:59.560
<v Speaker 2>That's wild. Man.

1954
01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Have you had any interesting experiences, you know, on big

1955
01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>foot hunts or anything, or or any type of experience

1956
01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:08.359
<v Speaker 1>out there.

1957
01:57:08.399 --> 01:57:11.399
<v Speaker 2>I haven't. I've only been on to myself. But the

1958
01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:15.359
<v Speaker 2>guy that's took me out there, he's had quite a few,

1959
01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:17.479
<v Speaker 2>and he's told me which I mean. I've seen the

1960
01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:20.560
<v Speaker 2>tracks and stuff, and I've seen some of the structures

1961
01:57:20.600 --> 01:57:23.680
<v Speaker 2>and the huge trees that look like somebody just snapped

1962
01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and jammed into the ground and made x's and some

1963
01:57:26.960 --> 01:57:30.239
<v Speaker 2>crazy stuff like that. Oh wow. But I've seen lots

1964
01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>of footage and pictures from my friend and it's wild

1965
01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:41.119
<v Speaker 2>at least, It's something I can't explain now, is it?

1966
01:57:41.560 --> 01:57:43.840
<v Speaker 2>The pictures and stuff that I've seen, are they you know,

1967
01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:47.800
<v Speaker 2>like physical flesh and blood my point of view, they

1968
01:57:47.800 --> 01:57:52.359
<v Speaker 2>don't look that way really, but we get prints and stuff. Right,

1969
01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:58.840
<v Speaker 2>you have a distinct silhouette like shadow figure that is

1970
01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:04.159
<v Speaker 2>the perfect outline of what we you know, call a bigfoot,

1971
01:58:04.960 --> 01:58:08.479
<v Speaker 2>and they're usually peeking around big trees and looking at you,

1972
01:58:09.199 --> 01:58:11.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's just just dark silhouette that you make it

1973
01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:15.359
<v Speaker 2>out and they're like, you know, eight foot ten foot tall.

1974
01:58:16.439 --> 01:58:20.079
<v Speaker 2>And he's got numerous videos and pictures of like this

1975
01:58:20.119 --> 01:58:22.560
<v Speaker 2>silhouette shadowy figure like peeking around.

1976
01:58:22.359 --> 01:58:24.000
<v Speaker 4>It, like perfectly peeking around.

1977
01:58:24.119 --> 01:58:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1978
01:58:24.359 --> 01:58:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's got hair come out everywhere, and really tall

1979
01:58:28.760 --> 01:58:32.520
<v Speaker 2>and without fail he says that, you know, he hears

1980
01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:37.560
<v Speaker 2>the clacking and the hoots. Uh, But most of the

1981
01:58:37.600 --> 01:58:40.800
<v Speaker 2>majority of all his images and videos that he's gotten

1982
01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:45.359
<v Speaker 2>is like Scott Carpenter, it's from his back trail cam.

1983
01:58:45.840 --> 01:58:49.239
<v Speaker 2>He has cameras mounted everywhere, carrying one and go pros

1984
01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:52.119
<v Speaker 2>and he always puts one on his back smart and

1985
01:58:52.159 --> 01:58:54.319
<v Speaker 2>he said, in ninety percent of the time, it's not

1986
01:58:54.439 --> 01:58:57.039
<v Speaker 2>till he goes home and he's scrubbing through the foot

1987
01:58:57.079 --> 01:58:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, whoa, what was that? Creepy backs up

1988
01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:01.319
<v Speaker 2>in the surf, bowing it up. He's like, holy shit,

1989
01:59:01.399 --> 01:59:02.039
<v Speaker 2>it was washing.

1990
01:59:05.119 --> 01:59:08.159
<v Speaker 1>That is crazy, dude, that's crazy, man.

1991
01:59:08.600 --> 01:59:10.439
<v Speaker 2>And that's where it ties into, you know, with my

1992
01:59:10.560 --> 01:59:12.960
<v Speaker 2>theory that I talk about the book. You know, if

1993
01:59:13.159 --> 01:59:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Esau was a serpent seed, and if the Book of

1994
01:59:15.680 --> 01:59:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Enoch is true, their spirits are cursed to wander the earth,

1995
01:59:19.560 --> 01:59:24.279
<v Speaker 2>tormenting mankind and watching us. It says they would hunger

1996
01:59:24.479 --> 01:59:27.640
<v Speaker 2>and thirst and have all these carnal cravings, but they

1997
01:59:27.680 --> 01:59:30.720
<v Speaker 2>can't be you know, you know, sensational or what's it

1998
01:59:30.840 --> 01:59:31.760
<v Speaker 2>called satisfied?

1999
01:59:32.119 --> 01:59:32.319
<v Speaker 1>Right?

2000
01:59:33.960 --> 01:59:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Would it not make sense that these spirits, if they

2001
01:59:36.479 --> 01:59:39.439
<v Speaker 2>could manifest in some way, that they would manifest in

2002
01:59:39.479 --> 01:59:42.119
<v Speaker 2>a familiar form that commanded power and authority, and that

2003
01:59:42.159 --> 01:59:45.039
<v Speaker 2>they once walked around looking like yeah to me, I

2004
01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:45.840
<v Speaker 2>mean it makes sense.

2005
01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on that because I mean the thing

2006
01:59:47.760 --> 01:59:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that blew me away too, and your book.

2007
01:59:49.479 --> 01:59:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Was those story stories about that I didn't even get

2008
01:59:52.520 --> 01:59:53.560
<v Speaker 2>any It's.

2009
01:59:53.439 --> 01:59:55.560
<v Speaker 1>A perfect time. Let's talk about it real quick, because

2010
01:59:55.560 --> 01:59:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that that story did blow yeah.

2011
01:59:57.880 --> 02:00:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because this he had this woman that reached out

2012
02:00:01.159 --> 02:00:03.800
<v Speaker 2>and was like, hey, you know you're into bigfoot and

2013
02:00:04.880 --> 02:00:08.640
<v Speaker 2>I've had many experiences with a bigfoot and actually formed

2014
02:00:08.640 --> 02:00:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with one. If you'd like to hear the story.

2015
02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:13.439
<v Speaker 2>He's like, hell yeah, I like to hear the story.

2016
02:00:14.079 --> 02:00:16.159
<v Speaker 2>And this woman comes on and she ended up coming

2017
02:00:16.199 --> 02:00:18.000
<v Speaker 2>on his show like three times. You can go to

2018
02:00:18.279 --> 02:00:22.000
<v Speaker 2>his podcast, you know, the Bump podcast and dig and

2019
02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:24.039
<v Speaker 2>find these episodes. But he talked to her like three

2020
02:00:24.159 --> 02:00:27.279
<v Speaker 2>or four times. And she said that one day she

2021
02:00:27.439 --> 02:00:30.399
<v Speaker 2>was walking her dog and this was a woman, she

2022
02:00:30.520 --> 02:00:33.760
<v Speaker 2>was just a regular, you know, good old girl. She

2023
02:00:34.000 --> 02:00:36.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't no Hebrew scholar or even a Christian, so she

2024
02:00:37.000 --> 02:00:39.680
<v Speaker 2>hadn't read the books of the Bible, didn't know any

2025
02:00:39.760 --> 02:00:43.520
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff like we've talked about tonight. And said

2026
02:00:43.520 --> 02:00:47.239
<v Speaker 2>that her dog wouldn't poop unless it was like in

2027
02:00:47.279 --> 02:00:50.279
<v Speaker 2>the woods, like way back behind her house. So she

2028
02:00:50.319 --> 02:00:52.520
<v Speaker 2>said she had a path that she always walked her dog,

2029
02:00:53.359 --> 02:00:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and as she was walking her dogs, she said she

2030
02:00:56.840 --> 02:00:58.960
<v Speaker 2>just felt like something was watching her all the time.

2031
02:00:59.840 --> 02:01:03.880
<v Speaker 2>She heard hoots and knocks and all this kind of stuff.

2032
02:01:04.479 --> 02:01:06.680
<v Speaker 2>And she started telling people about it, and they're like, man,

2033
02:01:06.680 --> 02:01:10.399
<v Speaker 2>you probably got a sasquatch back there. You should leave gifts.

2034
02:01:10.479 --> 02:01:13.279
<v Speaker 2>That's what people do. They live food and different things

2035
02:01:13.319 --> 02:01:16.239
<v Speaker 2>and form relationships with these things. And she said, so

2036
02:01:16.319 --> 02:01:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I started leaving food and leaving gifts, and she said,

2037
02:01:19.920 --> 02:01:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I started notsing that they've started disappearing. And she said,

2038
02:01:23.279 --> 02:01:25.279
<v Speaker 2>I had one spot that I always go to and

2039
02:01:25.359 --> 02:01:28.920
<v Speaker 2>leave food and gifts to this thing, she said, and

2040
02:01:28.960 --> 02:01:32.640
<v Speaker 2>it always disappeared, she said, But after a while, she said,

2041
02:01:32.680 --> 02:01:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I got to know them. When i'd go back to

2042
02:01:35.600 --> 02:01:39.520
<v Speaker 2>check or put something else, there'd be gifts left for

2043
02:01:39.640 --> 02:01:44.680
<v Speaker 2>me in the exact same spot. She said, Branches twisted

2044
02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:50.119
<v Speaker 2>together in figures and dead mice and just different things.

2045
02:01:50.159 --> 02:01:53.239
<v Speaker 2>It was gifting me things back, she said. And it

2046
02:01:53.319 --> 02:01:56.079
<v Speaker 2>this went like that for several months. And she said,

2047
02:01:56.119 --> 02:02:01.680
<v Speaker 2>then one day, she said, I heard a voice, and

2048
02:02:01.720 --> 02:02:03.600
<v Speaker 2>she said it wasn't audible. She said, it was in

2049
02:02:03.640 --> 02:02:07.199
<v Speaker 2>my head. It was telepathically talking to me, letting me

2050
02:02:07.319 --> 02:02:10.880
<v Speaker 2>know and thanking me for the gifts, and wanted to

2051
02:02:10.880 --> 02:02:15.319
<v Speaker 2>know if I received my gifts. And she said, when

2052
02:02:15.359 --> 02:02:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I started communicating with this thing, formed a relationship with it.

2053
02:02:19.479 --> 02:02:23.720
<v Speaker 2>She said, after several weeks and months of going out

2054
02:02:23.720 --> 02:02:26.159
<v Speaker 2>in the woods, and telepathically mine, speaking with this thing

2055
02:02:26.239 --> 02:02:28.560
<v Speaker 2>back and forth and gifting with it. She said, it

2056
02:02:28.680 --> 02:02:32.279
<v Speaker 2>started conversating more, and I asked it to reveal itself

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<v Speaker 2>to me, she said, and it was just this huge

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<v Speaker 2>creature covered in hair from head to toe, what we

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<v Speaker 2>would call a bigfoot. And she said, I named him Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>And she said, we just started talking about all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, and then we start talking about religion and God.

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<v Speaker 2>And it said that it believed in God, that God

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<v Speaker 2>was real and that, but Christianity had it all wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and it was twisted and manipulated, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>she needed to read, uh the Gnostic Gospels.

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<v Speaker 1>No way.

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<v Speaker 2>I started listing, you know, these Gnostic Gospels and and

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<v Speaker 2>then she asked, you, well, what what are you? And

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<v Speaker 2>she could even pronounce the word right. She was saying,

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<v Speaker 2>L buoed or L dude is something like that. He

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<v Speaker 2>was an L dude or l l bluobe And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>so Bou started reaching out to Gary Wayne and other

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<v Speaker 2>people you know, and saying, you know, hey, is there

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<v Speaker 2>anything that you've read about you know, big tall creatures

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<v Speaker 2>or humanoid creatures, Harry, creatures named el boob or l lube.

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<v Speaker 2>You know or something like that. And he said, Gary

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<v Speaker 2>Wayne wroting back and he said, I've heard of elie

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<v Speaker 2>Ud And he said, if that's what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, uh, there's many references to the Eliud. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>in the eli youd are the offspring of the nephilum,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, the nephilum or the offspring of angels. But

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<v Speaker 2>the offspring of the nephilum was called the eliud.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And so next time he talked to her, he was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I talk to somebody and the name was it Eliud?

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<v Speaker 2>He said. As soon as I said it, she perked up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it eli Youd. He and I talked to him

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<v Speaker 2>since we talked last, and he said that he was

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<v Speaker 2>an Eliud and he was sinking redemption.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, dude, can they be redeemed? Those of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So then he told her, you know what the

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<v Speaker 2>eliud was, and what the nephilum were, and the fallen angels.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I explained all that stuff to her, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>I told her, I think you're being deceived, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is something demonic, it's not something good,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's telling you that the faith is bad and

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<v Speaker 2>then you need to read these gnostic texts. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's trying to deceive you and leads you astray, he said. Immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>she shut off, become mad, got defensive and said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>Harry is my friend. He's been good to me. He's

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<v Speaker 2>revealed all kinds of things to me and helped me.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, you're just part of that Christianity, narrow minded

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<v Speaker 2>people that Harry talks about. If you're the one deceived

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to talk with you anymore, oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And she shut off communication. And he's not talked to

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<v Speaker 2>her since. He said he's reached her the last time

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<v Speaker 2>I heard, you know, he had reached out to her

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<v Speaker 2>and tried to check on in on her and talked

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<v Speaker 2>to her and stuff. And as far as my knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>that the last time he reached out, she told him,

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<v Speaker 2>do not contact me anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Harry probably ate her and her dog exactly, beans bro.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Harry crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>How that all dovetails into what we've been talking about today.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that reminds me of Les Stroud's story. I

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<v Speaker 4>believe Lis Stroud was, you know, he did the whole

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<v Speaker 4>bigfoot thing for a while, and I think Lis Stroud

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<v Speaker 4>was in the woods one day and this this voice

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<v Speaker 4>like telepathically communicated, if you stay, I'll show myself to you.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, he said nope, yeah I think he did. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>good for him. I would have too.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to go hunting in Montana in the forest

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<v Speaker 3>for a while when I was a kid. I used

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<v Speaker 3>to go alone a lot of the times, and I

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<v Speaker 3>used to go deep, like a good couple of miles,

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<v Speaker 3>man like, and I just remember, man like, just walking

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<v Speaker 3>I could tell there was normal animals around. There's like

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<v Speaker 3>mountain lions, bears, you know, all sorts of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>I just always felt like there was something to watch

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<v Speaker 3>to me. Not every time I went out, but sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I got so creeped out as a kid that

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, let me go home.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just started running home.

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<v Speaker 3>And I never knew why until I started talking about

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff and God showed me this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, dang, I wonder.

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<v Speaker 3>If it was really that or if I was just

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<v Speaker 3>tweaking out, you know, like I just now that I know,

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<v Speaker 3>looking back, like what could have been in that force.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dang, So our world is stranger than fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>It really it is it is. The truth is stranger

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02:07:29.680 --> 02:07:33.319
<v Speaker 1>than fiction, right. It's crazy, man, It's crazy. It totally

2144
02:07:33.399 --> 02:07:37.439
<v Speaker 1>is very fascinating topic. Man. We really could sit here

2145
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<v Speaker 1>for another couple of hours just to go into it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe you know, but justin thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on, man, thank you for you know, giving us

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<v Speaker 1>your time tonight. Deeply appreciate it. Man, this was an

2149
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<v Speaker 1>awesome one. I wanted to mention one thing too. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting into this kind of stuff can be maybe confusing,

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02:08:05.119 --> 02:08:09.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe tough for like a new believer, right to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wrap their head around. So I always kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like to at least for new believers, you know, push

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<v Speaker 1>them in the direction of the Gospels and to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of build them the meat this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, your foundation has to be Christ man.

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<v Speaker 2>You got you know, if you're a new believer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, these these subjects are fascinating, but it's the meat, yeh, Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to start off on the milk, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>uh know, the Gospel of Christ. Uh know why Christ

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<v Speaker 2>came what he did for you be able to defend

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<v Speaker 2>your faith, why you believe what you believe, Why Christ

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02:08:44.479 --> 02:08:47.359
<v Speaker 2>did what he did. That's your foundation stone. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody wants a nice tall skyscraper theologically speaking, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you build that on sand, I don't care

2166
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<v Speaker 2>how beautiful, how tall it is, full of nephelum giants

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02:08:58.399 --> 02:09:01.840
<v Speaker 2>and all this cool stuff. The first storm that rolls through,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to knock you down and lead you down

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<v Speaker 2>a road a deception.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Start with your foundation. Foundation is Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, Amen. And I love how you ended the book.

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<v Speaker 1>I like how you wrapped it all into salvation and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, God's here knocking at the door man, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I really appreciate really everyone in the community

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<v Speaker 1>for a Christians with podcasts and trying to reach you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the world in a way to spreading the Gospel and

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<v Speaker 1>spreading you know, the message of Christ and all of that. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like how you really just wrapped it all

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<v Speaker 1>up with that point towards it towards uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>right there at the end of your book. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>important you know and appreciate what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I do. I appreciate you guys. Man, this has

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<v Speaker 2>been a great conversation. I think honestly, I could be

2185
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<v Speaker 2>wrong in so if I misspeaking and somebody sees this,

2186
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<v Speaker 2>I apologize. Sometimes I make an ass of myself and assume.

2187
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<v Speaker 2>But I know you've read the book and it shows,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's come out in this conversation. That's

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<v Speaker 2>something mean you've talked about privately, you know, something I

2190
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<v Speaker 2>try to pride myself on the guests I have on.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to read their stuff because it comes out

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<v Speaker 2>in the conversations. The conversations are a hundred times better

2193
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<v Speaker 2>and deeper when you know the materials. I've read it,

2194
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<v Speaker 2>and I think it comes through in this conversation. I've

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, And you know you've been an inspiration, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not only to this show, but I'm pretty sure others

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<v Speaker 1>as well. You know, it's a big world out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know your show's very respected. It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>You put a lot of work into it, man, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the folk for the folks listening, you know,

2202
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<v Speaker 1>go check him out. And if you wouldn't mind, just

2203
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<v Speaker 1>if you want to send one last message out to

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd and share you know where they can find

2205
02:10:54.880 --> 02:10:58.079
<v Speaker 1>all of your work. You know, we'll wrap it up

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll move into an episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Debrief a Hey, yeah, thanks guys, Like I said, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to want to play favorites, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably been one of my favorite conversations. Oh yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely appreciate what you guys do. And you's even

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<v Speaker 2>inspired me. You know, I get notifications that you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are alive. I try to tune in if I ain't

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<v Speaker 2>doing something, and uh, you inspired me to get some

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<v Speaker 2>really festive wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love starting to get me some crazy hats. Mynfelom

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<v Speaker 2>giant skull was rocking my toilet paper roll.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it. I have way more

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<v Speaker 1>tinfoil hats to like start making back here nice. I've

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<v Speaker 1>already been looking up like Star Wars helmets and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. It's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a prob It gives you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he's got the glasses now, all right, got

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<v Speaker 2>the Prometheus lens.

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<v Speaker 1>He almost looks like the guy from the movie The Watchmen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking fear and loathing in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is backcountry right on the Adrena Chrome over there,

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<v Speaker 5>all these damn lizards.

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<v Speaker 1>That is That is awesome. Man, that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it, man. But yeah, anywhere you consume content guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know YouTube, Spotify, Apple, all that good stuff. To

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<v Speaker 2>search up Prometheus Lens podcast, the website's Prometheus Lens podcast

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. In the book you find it exclusively on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the ebook for ten bucks to paperback for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and I ordered a large shipment of copies. So I

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<v Speaker 2>have a large box of these on hand. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want one, you can go to the website. I have

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<v Speaker 2>details to like my PayPal and ben Moo and stuff

2242
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<v Speaker 2>like that. If you want a signed copy, you can

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02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:57.079
<v Speaker 2>send me some money that way, send me your address,

2244
02:12:57.159 --> 02:13:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I'll sign one and get it to you. And I

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<v Speaker 2>actually have a lot of goodies now that other people

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get, so it's profits sometimes being late. But I

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<v Speaker 2>got custom bookmarks like themed on the book and some

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<v Speaker 2>stickers and stuff like that. So anytime you order a

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<v Speaker 2>book directly from me, you'll get some extra goodies.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I asked you this last time, but is

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<v Speaker 4>there any plans for an audible book coming soon?

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<v Speaker 2>I've already recorded it well, mostly because when I was

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<v Speaker 2>editing the book, I was reading it to myself. Do

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<v Speaker 2>my mic Wow, I just have to go through and

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<v Speaker 2>edit it and compress it so you're reading a nice Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh dude, that's awesome, man, that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't afford to pay nobody, brother, I'm working there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, and that's awesome. So yeah, your website will

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<v Speaker 1>be in the description along with your YouTube channel and

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<v Speaker 1>an Amazon link for the book book man, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you again, dude, I could. I can't say it enough. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>But Taylor's going to break us out in a little

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<v Speaker 1>prayer here and then we're gonna move over to the

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<v Speaker 1>next segment. Weather.

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<v Speaker 3>God, thank you that we could have this podcast tonight

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<v Speaker 3>and that we could get some wisdom from Doc Brown here.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just thank you that we're able to just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of pick apart everything and kind of put the

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<v Speaker 3>puzzle pieces together of you know, what you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>tell us and the world and just expose evil.

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<v Speaker 1>For what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just pray that you know we seek you

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<v Speaker 3>of all things, and these honestly last days that we're in,

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<v Speaker 3>and that we will, you know, continue to have wisdom

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<v Speaker 3>discernment and just as we go venture forward and pick

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<v Speaker 3>apart these things and in Jesus Christ. I pray amen.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin. Hope to see you again in the future, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Brown, everybody go check them out.

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you, guys, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Torches High, guys, man, you know, it's always it's always

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<v Speaker 1>good having Doc on Doc Brown. Everybody, good guy, awesome show,

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<v Speaker 1>awesome YouTube channel, I mean, awesome author. Everything. He's really

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<v Speaker 1>like just he's uh. I feel like he's at the

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<v Speaker 1>point in his life where he's just going hard on

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff, the documentaries that that he's got

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<v Speaker 1>in the works. I'd love him to start working on

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<v Speaker 1>a second book, to be honest with you. Maybe get

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<v Speaker 1>into the garments man. Oh yeah, make a book on

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02:15:39.199 --> 02:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the garments man oh Man. Pretty cool, folks. His YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>is uh in the title and in the description below.

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<v Speaker 1>You can check it out there too. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>website and all that other stuff. Just check out his

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<v Speaker 1>book in the description below too as well. Man, he

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<v Speaker 1>brought a bunch. You know. His book's just not all

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<v Speaker 1>on Esau. It's kind of like we talked in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>He built a great foundation. It was something that he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do to tie a bow on everything at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, you know, with Esau and to help you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like understand the perspective that he's coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what we didn't get into that I'll cover

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's a you know, there's there's science behind

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<v Speaker 1>the big Bigfoot phenomenon, right, Like There's what I mean

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<v Speaker 1>by that is, scientifically, someone can have hair all over

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<v Speaker 1>their body, right, Like, scientifically someone can be a wild man,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, perceived as one. And that is called hyper trichosis,

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<v Speaker 1>where you grow hair out pretty much out of every

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<v Speaker 1>pore and it's congena and it's you know, genetic and

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>A mutation they would.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like the real life wolf man, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember cracking, you know, we're two thousand kids, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember always digging into the Guinness World Record books,

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<v Speaker 1>right you flip through the pages a little bit, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see the most hairrius man in the world or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. He has this condition, right, And but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to cover that that that's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. You know what, there's that kid that Brian demon

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<v Speaker 4>Erasers was talking about that who has hair all over

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<v Speaker 4>his face and he's like famous right now in India.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember his head yet Indian Wolf and Harry Kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to look him up real quick, share

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<v Speaker 4>that with the YouTube. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, let's see

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<v Speaker 4>Indian Hairy Kid. There he is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the wild man thing is kind of trippy too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got culturally and traditionally throughout the world. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>these traditions too that that are played out and these

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot looking dudes, you know, running around parading trying to

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<v Speaker 1>steal women, right and it it's so mind blowing. You

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<v Speaker 1>got the lau thing too at the end was nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh the l eu oh jeseznuts. Oh there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>We got me on there.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you see me? Can you see it?

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<v Speaker 1>I can see it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the this is the hairy dude.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the hairy guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's the hairy guys like a looks like a

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<v Speaker 4>dog a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wouldn't who someone would marry that guy?

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<v Speaker 4>Really? I shouldn't say that's so messed up? No, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's got to be. You know, they called

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<v Speaker 4>a mutation, they call it a disorder. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 4>like a genetic part of his lineage that probably just

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<v Speaker 4>peeking through. It's a circus seed bro, I'm just kidding crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We got into that too a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, you know, coming down to the meanings of

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<v Speaker 1>the words and seeing the correlation between Leviticus, Genesis, Proverbs.

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<v Speaker 1>There's these things that share correlation with what took place

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<v Speaker 1>in the garden, you know, and it really set off

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<v Speaker 1>the seed war. Man. You know, the Bible's clear on

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<v Speaker 1>the generational tree.

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<v Speaker 4>His verses that he hit right there. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I got to write those down because I've we've skimmed

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<v Speaker 4>through it so many times and it's clear the beguiled

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<v Speaker 4>statement in Corinthians versus Genesis in the garden and the

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<v Speaker 4>Proverbs thirty twenty. I think maybe you brought that up.

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<v Speaker 4>The eating eating the fruit, Yeah, that's dude. It's plain

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<v Speaker 4>to see, like you guys kept.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying the going and then the edith and then gave

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<v Speaker 1>to her husband to eat right, you know, the nakedness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's these words that are play on in such a

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<v Speaker 1>way to where symbolically they're meaning has a certain nature.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bible helps you understand what that nature is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that. I love kind of how we

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<v Speaker 1>tied that in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's just so fascinating how these scholars

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<v Speaker 4>and people like Michael Heiser, it just shows it just

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<v Speaker 4>goes to show you how.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're discriminated. I mean, we're even we're discriminated. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like even you know, Doc, it's discriminated, right.

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<v Speaker 4>But it goes to show how how in depth the

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<v Speaker 4>Bible is, how how complicated it is, and how versatile

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<v Speaker 4>it is. Like you really have to a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of layers, man, lot of layers.

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<v Speaker 4>Stuck in the intellectual mud or or whatever it is

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<v Speaker 4>that La Mars really.

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<v Speaker 1>Likes to say, or what you know is being taught universally,

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<v Speaker 1>like not universally, but yeah, at universities and stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've got this educational part of Christianity, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have my views on education in general. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough thing to kind of discuss because education it looks

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<v Speaker 1>just very similar to how you would create indoctrination camps.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, man, I get that. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>what they're preaching in school is necessarily wrong, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got things represented in the school system that appear

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<v Speaker 1>as fact when they're not, Yeah, now I question what

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<v Speaker 1>are we trying to do here?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the agenda are we yeah, are.

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<v Speaker 1>We teaching education or are we teaching a groomed and

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<v Speaker 1>a believing lifestyle and how to believe indoctrination. Absolutely, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very fascinating, very fascinating. I had a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>with this episode, man, A lot a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>with this fs Oh, man, I really I want to

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<v Speaker 1>try and get a bo Kennedy young.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, dude, that's a cool story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been on the Confessionals, He's been on a few

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<v Speaker 1>big platforms, and he when he was on the Confessionals,

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<v Speaker 1>he was getting into Elith and uh, you know which

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of to me, I see, this is so funny,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is perfect. I see Lilith as the alien

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02:22:22.959 --> 02:22:29.600
<v Speaker 1>queen from the movie Alien. Okay, it's the mother of

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<v Speaker 1>all of the demons, right, the l e U, the

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<v Speaker 1>nepheleam No, kind of like that that that demonic motherly vibe?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, was Lilith Adam's first wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what, see, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't discussed this with anyone, I haven't talked. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about this.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard that and I'm like, that doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I heard When I hear that, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like the Bible implies something different and

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<v Speaker 1>it says something different, So what do you meaning?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that. I'm so confused. When I heard that,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it down because there's got to be something that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know to make you have those assumptions. So

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<v Speaker 1>very curious, curious, very curious as well. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>this comes from Gary Wayne the Genesis, Uh what do

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02:23:36.959 --> 02:23:44.120
<v Speaker 1>they call day six? Male and female humans were different

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<v Speaker 1>than Adam and Eve in the garden.

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<v Speaker 4>I was also confused about that.

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02:23:49.680 --> 02:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>So there's there's this which I don't know. I don't

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02:23:55.239 --> 02:23:58.399
<v Speaker 1>necessarily don't throw out because I think there could be

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<v Speaker 1>something to it as well, because there are some things

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<v Speaker 1>broken down in Genesis that can line up that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So but we didn't. We could have got into that

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<v Speaker 1>with him, But which that would have been an interesting

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02:24:10.799 --> 02:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>topic because I think he even touched on it a

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02:24:12.559 --> 02:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit in his book too, and even in in

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02:24:15.040 --> 02:24:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Mesopotamian Sumer writings. You know, it talks about the blackhead people.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And so so if you think about it, when Cain's

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02:24:27.000 --> 02:24:29.360
<v Speaker 1>cast it out of the garden, he's he's out with

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02:24:29.520 --> 02:24:34.879
<v Speaker 1>the with them or the others or whatever. There's people there, clearly, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is interpreted by one side getting into these were

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<v Speaker 1>the other kids that Adam and Eve had that the

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02:24:42.959 --> 02:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Bible doesn't say, by the way, interesting or they're the

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02:24:48.879 --> 02:24:54.959
<v Speaker 1>day six right race of people. And you know Cain

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02:24:55.040 --> 02:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>went out and built cities right that he had a lineage.

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02:24:58.280 --> 02:25:03.559
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of ancient wisdom there and occult knowledge

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02:25:03.680 --> 02:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>for sure. We know that that's where the snake could brotherhood,

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02:25:07.280 --> 02:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>The snake brotherhood, I'm sorry, came from. We know that

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02:25:10.520 --> 02:25:14.719
<v Speaker 1>that's the bowl cull all that stuff. You know that that.

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02:25:15.159 --> 02:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a religion where they were doing stuff,

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02:25:18.360 --> 02:25:22.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the pyramids, the cigarettes, all this kind

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02:25:22.120 --> 02:25:27.239
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. There's this ritualistic sacrifice you know that that

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02:25:27.440 --> 02:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>takes place. It's all weird. It's really weird. Yeah, it

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02:25:31.120 --> 02:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>all comes from Kane. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Doc talks about the mark being a horn and that

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02:25:37.360 --> 02:25:40.319
<v Speaker 4>king was hairy as well. It's like, man, dude, the

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02:25:40.399 --> 02:25:42.120
<v Speaker 4>story just keeps getting.

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02:25:43.440 --> 02:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Deeper, and that painting's kind of wild, right.

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02:25:46.600 --> 02:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The Sistine Chapel, right, yeah, Assistine is kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to look into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So much fun, man, so much fun. Folks. We appreciate

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02:25:55.360 --> 02:26:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you being here. We wanted to give a few shout outs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give a few shout outs this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll try and do this, you know, every episode. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we forget, forgive us. But yeah, Jesse, you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to give a shout.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'll give a shout out to this guy. I

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<v Speaker 4>saw him on he commented on Spotify. So and I

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<v Speaker 4>hope he left a five star review. If he didn't,

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<v Speaker 4>how dare he? No, I'm just kidding, but I still

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<v Speaker 4>have time. He commented on Spotify on number thirty six,

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<v Speaker 4>the Demon Erasers episode, and he said his name is

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<v Speaker 4>shout out to alex At. He said, he said, this

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<v Speaker 4>episode really hit me, fellas I've been in the process

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<v Speaker 4>of fully getting my life in line with God, really

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<v Speaker 4>reaching out after being lukewarm all my life. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 4>the podcast, So shout out to alex At. I hope

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<v Speaker 4>you find some inspiration to get closer to God through

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<v Speaker 4>the podcast. That's awesome. That's how kind of what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on with me in my life right now. So cheers, brother, Amen, dude, Amen, dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I want to give a shout out to Crypto Grady.

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<v Speaker 4>Appreciate you, Appreciate you, love the support.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you comment a lot on all of our stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and we appreciate it. You know, we see the love

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<v Speaker 1>that you have for us and everything, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we have that love back, and uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know we're gonna keep doing what we're doing. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep our journey strong. And you know you'll see everyone

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<v Speaker 1>still tuning in. You know, you'll see episodes Wednesday and Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've been pretty consistent with that for the uh

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say past six seven weeks or so now, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're on a good rhythm. And uh, you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>drop some interesting stuff throughout the week if we have time,

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<v Speaker 1>if we have to. But if you haven't done so already,

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<v Speaker 1>smash that subscribe button, like the show, share it with

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<v Speaker 1>your friends, comment on the episode please, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not on YouTube, uh and you're on the

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<v Speaker 1>audio side of things, check us out on Spreaker, Apple Podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>and Spotify. You can find us pretty much on all

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<v Speaker 1>things social media. And you know that's a wrap. Appreciate you,

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<v Speaker 1>justin Doc Brown, Love you buddy, and folks check out

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<v Speaker 1>his book, check out his material, and he gets a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cool uh guests on his show. So but

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you. We're going to see you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Peace and love everyone se you
