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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Many in the last few

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<v Speaker 1>days has been a reprise of what's happened the first

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred days with Donald Trump. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Watched some of the interviews with Terry Moran of ABC News, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets worse every time. It's terrible. We elected this

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<v Speaker 1>guy to maybe secure the southern border, check mark boost

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<v Speaker 1>the American economy, and check mark limit the size of government,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem there, and become a nation that commands respect

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. I think that's going on as I speak.

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<v Speaker 1>But none of that is representative what the media is reflecting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we have direct contact with Congressmen and senators

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<v Speaker 1>and those in the Trump administration and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great leaders of the conservative movement in the houses, Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Davidson and Congressmen, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw you a few nights ago in CNN.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was maybe six or seven o'clock and

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<v Speaker 1>you were in battle with one of the hope there

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the good things going on. And one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I noted that the Media Research Center says the

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<v Speaker 1>coverage of Donald Trump is more than ninety three percent negative,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought I haven't seen the seven percent and

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<v Speaker 1>so on the ground in Washington. As the president in

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<v Speaker 1>the first one hundred days, and now we're about several

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<v Speaker 1>days a week into the second one hundred days, kept

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<v Speaker 1>his promises to the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, that was part of the seven percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Is they allowed me on CNN to say, well, here's

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<v Speaker 3>what actually happened in the first hundred days, because normally

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<v Speaker 3>c and interviewers don't get that kind of information.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>In the first hundred days, we got a secure border,

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<v Speaker 3>a focused military, America respected at home and abroad. Education

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<v Speaker 3>focused on teaching our kids instead of indoctrinating them, doze

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<v Speaker 3>finding the money, Criminals going to jail, illegals being deported.

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<v Speaker 3>So far, this is the best sequel ever. Things are

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<v Speaker 3>going well well, not according to the media.

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<v Speaker 1>And one good thing Congressman Davidson I like is that

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<v Speaker 1>the so called media mainstream meet has lost its pinache.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to be able to dominate, and right now

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the case because of podcast and talk radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's focus on this big, beautiful bill that leadership, says

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<v Speaker 1>Speaker of the House, Johnson said, might be done by

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day, more likely the fourth of July. Give me

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<v Speaker 1>the three or four things in this big, beautiful bill

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to pass that will generate even more economic

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<v Speaker 1>growth in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the big thing is is it'll prevent a tax increase. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>if we don't act, everyone's taxes are going to go up.

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<v Speaker 3>So we actually have to take action. Of course, we

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<v Speaker 3>have to raise the debt limit. Unfortunately, the government's spending

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<v Speaker 3>like crazy. We can't turn off spending fast enough to

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<v Speaker 3>prevent that. But we are going to turn off spending

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<v Speaker 3>that is able to be avoided. I mean, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to keep the government focused on the essential things, like

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<v Speaker 3>focusing our military, and that's going to be a plus

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<v Speaker 3>up for military and a plus up for border security,

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<v Speaker 3>so that we can do the right things with our

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<v Speaker 3>federal government and stop doing crazy things. That's where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>dose finding the money. A lot of these things are

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<v Speaker 3>going to it turned off. We're going to save hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of billions of dollars hopefully trillion plus while we do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, President Trump's also going to keep taxes,

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<v Speaker 3>not only going to avoid tax increase on everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get the pro growth tax policies.

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<v Speaker 3>Implemented that Democrats let expire, and we're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>things that he promised, like no tax on tips. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's the key. And why is it all in one

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<v Speaker 3>big beautiful bill. Well, because you know, while the House

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<v Speaker 3>can pass things with a simple majority, it takes sixty

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<v Speaker 3>votes in the Senate, and they won't give us, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>seven votes from the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>Heck, sometimes it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard to hold all fifty three Republicans together in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 3>So we need those guys to be able to get

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<v Speaker 3>a simple majority to get things done.

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<v Speaker 2>In reconciliation. Is the bill that gets it done.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we're all focused on one big beautiful bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman, one of the issues is debt limits, and I

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<v Speaker 1>often have on Congressman Tom Massey of Northern Kentucky, and

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<v Speaker 1>that guy makes a lot of sense. The items on

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<v Speaker 1>the plate delivered to Donald Trump on January the twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really incredible. The hand he was dealt both in

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine and the Middle East, the China difficulty at trillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year of American dollars going to China not

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<v Speaker 1>coming back in addition to the spending spending, spending two

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars of annual budget deficits of the total debts

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six trillion. Do you have some empathy for the

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Massey's of this world who do not want to

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<v Speaker 1>increase the debt limit at all? And I always say

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<v Speaker 1>to Tom, if you don't increase the debt limit, what happens?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, well, then we have a crashing of the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe that's what someonant, but I know you're a

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<v Speaker 1>conservative conservative. You went to West Point, served in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as are you somewhat empathetic to the viewpoint

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<v Speaker 1>of Congressman Tom Massey and others that does not want

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<v Speaker 1>to increase the debt limit by one dollar?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, I mean I ran my first campaign a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the messaging was don't bankrupt America. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I got here and started seeing the lack of will

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<v Speaker 3>to turn off spending, and I was like, well, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not compassionate to bankrupt America, but they seem pretty dead

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<v Speaker 3>set on doing it. I think it's important for everybody

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<v Speaker 3>to understand that when you raise the debt limit, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not actually spending money you're just increasing your line of credit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like saying, well, I've got a credit card that's

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<v Speaker 3>got a ten thousand dollars limit, but now I want

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<v Speaker 3>to try to get a credit card that's got a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thousand dollars limit. The bad thing is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>while you at home, would know not to hit that limit,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you did, to start, you know, stop charging

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<v Speaker 3>rid of it. The government's only way to operate is

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<v Speaker 3>to keep increasing the credit card limit. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's what we're going to vote on. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the House said we'll raise the debt limit by four

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<v Speaker 3>trillion dollars. The Senate said, we'll see your four trillion

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<v Speaker 3>and raise it one. We want a five trillion dollar increase.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's really no path feasible that we could stop

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<v Speaker 3>spending enough money. I mean, if we just spent like

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<v Speaker 3>it was, you know before COVID, and left revenue the same,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the budget would be balanced and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like we had a small government before COVID. No, we

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<v Speaker 3>spent about four and a half trillion dollars before COD.

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<v Speaker 3>If you adjusted for inflation, that'd be over six trillion

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<v Speaker 3>right now. But over and above that, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>spend about seven point three trillion this year. So you'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to cut spending by like one and a half

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<v Speaker 3>balanced budget. So that's that's the kind of change that

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<v Speaker 3>it would take. So everyone's really gun shy about turning

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<v Speaker 3>those things off. You see how people are attacking, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to kill grandma.

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<v Speaker 3>All those attacks get politicized and the reality is you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about I'm pretty sure we don't need to fund

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<v Speaker 3>a transgender opera in Colombia. You know, those kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>nonsensical things you're too crazy to even make up, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is who would come up with doing this?

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<v Speaker 3>But they really did these things. That alone isn't going

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<v Speaker 3>to save massive money. Big reforms that were bipartisan, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but you know, everyone I know would help

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<v Speaker 3>a friend in need or a family member. But at

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<v Speaker 3>some point you would say, hey, if you're able bodied,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're going to get a job, right, or

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<v Speaker 3>at least try to get a job. You're going to

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<v Speaker 3>You could volunteer or go back to school. You could

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<v Speaker 3>do something. But under Obama back in the eight financial crisis,

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<v Speaker 3>they turned that off around the country, right, and we

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<v Speaker 3>want to turn that back on. That's just a common

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<v Speaker 3>sense thing that everyone would do for their own friends

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<v Speaker 3>and family. Why would it be mean for the government

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<v Speaker 3>to do the same thing that will save hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>Just that'll alone.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, something's happening with the debt because in March

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<v Speaker 1>we had a very low borrowing of it, because maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's because of the illegal immigration. I looked at twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen numbers. The federal budget in twenty nineteen was four

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<v Speaker 1>point one trillion twenty nineteen. Now, that wasn't exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>dark ages five six years ago. It was four point one.

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<v Speaker 1>Today it's seven point three. So we've had about a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent increase in federal spending since twenty nineteen. Why

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<v Speaker 1>can't we go back to twenty nineteen spending levels and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Penny plan and get that done. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have no cooperation from the liberal Democrats, zero zilch, nada,

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're not talking about rationing of some type

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<v Speaker 1>or other. To just go back to twenty nineteen levels,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're saying that economically we can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, not only economically politically, I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the spending is popular with the public, and frankly, for

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I could say that it was like all

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<v Speaker 3>the Republicans are united here. But if we had one

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<v Speaker 3>party that was good, you know, for big government, and

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<v Speaker 3>these windows like right now where Republicans control the House,

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<v Speaker 3>the Senate, and the White House, well we'd get smaller government.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're thirty six trillion dollars in debt because the

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<v Speaker 3>most bipartisan thing in Washington, DC is spending money. So

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<v Speaker 3>there are big government Republicans now, granted they want to

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<v Speaker 3>spend money on other things besides that, then Democrats do.

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<v Speaker 3>But the question is how are we going to come

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<v Speaker 3>together to actually get less government?

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<v Speaker 2>And if not?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, when you talk about waiting for a crash or something, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, why would we wait till something is completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Failed before we would take action?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, everybody knows we're headed towards a path that

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<v Speaker 3>we can't sustain. Can't we work together to turn it off?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the hope is in this one big,

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful bill. We're at least we're not going to get

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<v Speaker 3>balanced right away, but we are going to move in

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<v Speaker 3>that direction. And that's going to be a big win.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the future government spending and tax increases,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. The response of the Democrats are now conducting

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<v Speaker 1>sit ins and other silly ass problems on the steps

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<v Speaker 1>of the Capitol, is to grossly increase income taxes. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>if you make above whatever number you want to draw it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the top one percent make four hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>They want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep spending more and more of the money and taxing

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<v Speaker 1>more and more, and that's never been You can't tax

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<v Speaker 1>your way to prosperity. And when I watched the Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>you would anticipate, I'm a bit of a history major.

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<v Speaker 1>In the first one hundred days of any new president,

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<v Speaker 1>parties put down their red and their blue cloths. They

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<v Speaker 1>get together and say, let's work together, because the voters

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<v Speaker 1>had beside what they wanted. November the fifth, I think

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<v Speaker 1>even Kambala Harris said, let's give the voters what they wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>They ordered, this is give.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now what Trump is doing. And what you're

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<v Speaker 1>less government strength around the world, shut down the southern border,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. But how much cooperation are you getting from

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats to do what the American people said wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be done. Are you getting any cooperation?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean very little.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, honestly, you know it is that basic. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>do what you said you would do. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 3>what Donald Trump is doing. He's doing that. The question

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<v Speaker 3>is is Congress doing that? We're not keep it up?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and part of the challenges We've passed a

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't want to help Donald Trump. Now, to

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<v Speaker 3>be fair, they're doing what they said they would do.

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<v Speaker 3>The question is our Republican's going to unite and do

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<v Speaker 3>to adapt because you know, they didn't campaign on weaponizing

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<v Speaker 3>the courts against Donald Trump. But that's exactly what they did,

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<v Speaker 3>and thankfully the Trump administration has taken action. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, you go to court, you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>get justice, not evade justice. And that's exactly what she

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<v Speaker 3>actually charging her.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and in fact, the other Wisconsin judicial members have

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<v Speaker 1>come out in support of Judge Dougan, a Court of

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<v Speaker 1>Appeals judge and ever. But fortunately the Wisconsin Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>in Wisconsin, instead of saying to her, you shouldn't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Dougan, they still up and said she should have

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<v Speaker 1>done that, And that, to me is the most shocking thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Individuals make misconducts all the time. You commit crime, you

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's exactly what's happening in district courts. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're treating non citizens as citizens at every turn.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you get this Maryland man hoax that's going

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<v Speaker 3>on with a man from El Salvador's returned to El Salvador,

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<v Speaker 3>and they want them to have years and years of appeals.

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<v Speaker 3>He's already had those things. He's been ordered to remove twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Judges and law enforcement has found him to have affiliation

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<v Speaker 3>all the due process in the world. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, surely we could find some common ground in saying,

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<v Speaker 3>to have the right to keep the bear arms. And

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<v Speaker 3>they go, oh, no, everyone's got all the constitutional rights.

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<v Speaker 3>And you guys don't want me to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>buy guns, but they're okay with the MS thirteen gang

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<v Speaker 3>guy buying them. I mean, people had lost their minds

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<v Speaker 3>and that's exactly they're trying to nullify the entire distinction

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<v Speaker 3>on flooding the countries with illegals. He did that, and

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Congressman Warren Davidson of Ohio. One thing Obama

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<v Speaker 1>even approach that number. And if you gave hearings in

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<v Speaker 1>due process to all three point one million illegals that

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<v Speaker 1>for three point one million, much less the fifteen million

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's not say that the Trump administration won't far

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they will, but they're not on pace too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the reality is we haven't even hit three.

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<v Speaker 3>Hundred thousand yet, and they were bringing over three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand illegals in per month at periods of time during

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<v Speaker 3>just a basic math problem. The outflow has to exceed

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<v Speaker 3>the inflow during Biden's four years. And then we have

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<v Speaker 3>to pass a law, you know, the one big beautiful bill.

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<v Speaker 2>One of that we're going to get money in to

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing that you can't do with reconciliation is

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<v Speaker 3>structurally change immigration law. And that's what we need. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this can't be like a tennis match where you're watching

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<v Speaker 3>one side back and forth matters. No, it doesn't, Yes

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<v Speaker 3>it does, and it's all executive action. We need a

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<v Speaker 3>it's mind blowing that we couldn't impeach and remove Alejandro Majorchis,

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<v Speaker 3>who was High Secretary for Homeland Security. He was enabling

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States and he's never been charged with it.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't even remove him from office with impeachment, and

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<v Speaker 1>Can't go back and forth every four years from We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to institutionalize these changes. But Congressman, stay strong there

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington. I don't like increasing the debt ceiling again,

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<v Speaker 1>either four trillion or five trillion, but it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>must be done in the short term to have long

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<v Speaker 1>term benefits. And Congressmen warn't Davidson once again, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and you promise

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<v Speaker 1>to stay strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, by God's grace and the encouragement of my constituents,

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<v Speaker 3>I know they sent me here to fight for them.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think a lot of people think that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know anyone that could win on that message,

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<v Speaker 3>and you certainly can't win as Southwest Ohio doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>We're here to fight for Southwest Ohio and the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>we get a government small enough to fit back inside

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is we got he a fatal over to us,

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was selected and elected in order to fundamentally

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<v Speaker 1>change the direction of this country. The military enlistments are up,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more people volunteering and going into the FBI. There's

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<v Speaker 1>this sense of mourning in America once again. In Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Davidson, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you and God bless America.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much and all your listeners. Thanks Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>God bless you all.

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