Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Many in the last few
Speaker 1: days has been a reprise of what's happened the first
Speaker 1: one hundred days with Donald Trump. And by the way,
Speaker 1: it's all bad.
Speaker 2: It's all terrible.
Speaker 1: Watched some of the interviews with Terry Moran of ABC News, etc.
Speaker 1: It gets worse every time. It's terrible. We elected this
Speaker 1: guy to maybe secure the southern border, check mark boost
Speaker 1: the American economy, and check mark limit the size of government,
Speaker 1: no problem there, and become a nation that commands respect
Speaker 1: around the world. I think that's going on as I speak.
Speaker 1: But none of that is representative what the media is reflecting.
Speaker 1: That's why we have direct contact with Congressmen and senators
Speaker 1: and those in the Trump administration and one of the
Speaker 1: great leaders of the conservative movement in the houses, Congressman
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson and Congressmen, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And I saw you a few nights ago in CNN.
Speaker 1: I think it was maybe six or seven o'clock and
Speaker 1: you were in battle with one of the hope there
Speaker 1: about some of the good things going on. And one
Speaker 1: thing I noted that the Media Research Center says the
Speaker 1: coverage of Donald Trump is more than ninety three percent negative,
Speaker 1: and I thought I haven't seen the seven percent and
Speaker 1: so on the ground in Washington. As the president in
Speaker 1: the first one hundred days, and now we're about several
Speaker 1: days a week into the second one hundred days, kept
Speaker 1: his promises to the American people.
Speaker 2: Well, look, that was part of the seven percent.
Speaker 3: Is they allowed me on CNN to say, well, here's
Speaker 3: what actually happened in the first hundred days, because normally
Speaker 3: c and interviewers don't get that kind of information.
Speaker 2: I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 3: In the first hundred days, we got a secure border,
Speaker 3: a focused military, America respected at home and abroad. Education
Speaker 3: focused on teaching our kids instead of indoctrinating them, doze
Speaker 3: finding the money, Criminals going to jail, illegals being deported.
Speaker 3: So far, this is the best sequel ever. Things are
Speaker 3: going well well, not according to the media.
Speaker 1: And one good thing Congressman Davidson I like is that
Speaker 1: the so called media mainstream meet has lost its pinache.
Speaker 1: They used to be able to dominate, and right now
Speaker 1: that's not the case because of podcast and talk radio.
Speaker 1: Let's focus on this big, beautiful bill that leadership, says
Speaker 1: Speaker of the House, Johnson said, might be done by
Speaker 1: Memorial Day, more likely the fourth of July. Give me
Speaker 1: the three or four things in this big, beautiful bill
Speaker 1: that's going to pass that will generate even more economic
Speaker 1: growth in this country.
Speaker 3: Well, the big thing is is it'll prevent a tax increase. Honestly,
Speaker 3: if we don't act, everyone's taxes are going to go up.
Speaker 3: So we actually have to take action. Of course, we
Speaker 3: have to raise the debt limit. Unfortunately, the government's spending
Speaker 3: like crazy. We can't turn off spending fast enough to
Speaker 3: prevent that. But we are going to turn off spending
Speaker 3: that is able to be avoided. I mean, we're going
Speaker 3: to keep the government focused on the essential things, like
Speaker 3: focusing our military, and that's going to be a plus
Speaker 3: up for military and a plus up for border security,
Speaker 3: so that we can do the right things with our
Speaker 3: federal government and stop doing crazy things. That's where you know,
Speaker 3: dose finding the money. A lot of these things are
Speaker 3: going to it turned off. We're going to save hundreds
Speaker 3: of billions of dollars hopefully trillion plus while we do it.
Speaker 3: But you know, President Trump's also going to keep taxes,
Speaker 3: not only going to avoid tax increase on everybody.
Speaker 2: We're going to get the pro growth tax policies.
Speaker 3: Implemented that Democrats let expire, and we're going to get
Speaker 3: things that he promised, like no tax on tips. So
Speaker 3: that's the key. And why is it all in one
Speaker 3: big beautiful bill. Well, because you know, while the House
Speaker 3: can pass things with a simple majority, it takes sixty
Speaker 3: votes in the Senate, and they won't give us, you know,
Speaker 3: seven votes from the Senate.
Speaker 2: Heck, sometimes it's.
Speaker 3: Hard to hold all fifty three Republicans together in the Senate.
Speaker 3: So we need those guys to be able to get
Speaker 3: a simple majority to get things done.
Speaker 2: In reconciliation. Is the bill that gets it done.
Speaker 3: That's why we're all focused on one big beautiful bill.
Speaker 1: Congressman, one of the issues is debt limits, and I
Speaker 1: often have on Congressman Tom Massey of Northern Kentucky, and
Speaker 1: that guy makes a lot of sense. The items on
Speaker 1: the plate delivered to Donald Trump on January the twentieth,
Speaker 1: they're really incredible. The hand he was dealt both in
Speaker 1: Ukraine and the Middle East, the China difficulty at trillion
Speaker 1: dollars a year of American dollars going to China not
Speaker 1: coming back in addition to the spending spending, spending two
Speaker 1: trillion dollars of annual budget deficits of the total debts
Speaker 1: thirty six trillion. Do you have some empathy for the
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey's of this world who do not want to
Speaker 1: increase the debt limit at all? And I always say
Speaker 1: to Tom, if you don't increase the debt limit, what happens?
Speaker 1: He said, well, then we have a crashing of the economy.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's what someonant, but I know you're a
Speaker 1: conservative conservative. You went to West Point, served in the military.
Speaker 1: As far as are you somewhat empathetic to the viewpoint
Speaker 1: of Congressman Tom Massey and others that does not want
Speaker 1: to increase the debt limit by one dollar?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And look, I mean I ran my first campaign a
Speaker 3: lot of the messaging was don't bankrupt America. And then
Speaker 3: I got here and started seeing the lack of will
Speaker 3: to turn off spending, and I was like, well, it's
Speaker 3: not compassionate to bankrupt America, but they seem pretty dead
Speaker 3: set on doing it. I think it's important for everybody
Speaker 3: to understand that when you raise the debt limit, you're
Speaker 3: not actually spending money you're just increasing your line of credit.
Speaker 3: It's like saying, well, I've got a credit card that's
Speaker 3: got a ten thousand dollars limit, but now I want
Speaker 3: to try to get a credit card that's got a
Speaker 3: twenty thousand dollars limit. The bad thing is, you know,
Speaker 3: while you at home, would know not to hit that limit,
Speaker 3: or if you did, to start, you know, stop charging
Speaker 3: on it and start paying it down so you get
Speaker 3: rid of it. The government's only way to operate is
Speaker 3: to keep increasing the credit card limit. And that's that's
Speaker 3: you know, that's what we're going to vote on. I mean,
Speaker 3: the House said we'll raise the debt limit by four
Speaker 3: trillion dollars. The Senate said, we'll see your four trillion
Speaker 3: and raise it one. We want a five trillion dollar increase.
Speaker 3: And there's really no path feasible that we could stop
Speaker 3: spending enough money. I mean, if we just spent like
Speaker 3: it was, you know before COVID, and left revenue the same,
Speaker 3: I mean, the budget would be balanced and it wasn't
Speaker 3: like we had a small government before COVID. No, we
Speaker 3: spent about four and a half trillion dollars before COD.
Speaker 3: If you adjusted for inflation, that'd be over six trillion
Speaker 3: right now. But over and above that, we're going to
Speaker 3: spend about seven point three trillion this year. So you'd
Speaker 3: have to cut spending by like one and a half
Speaker 3: trillion dollars in a year to get back to a
Speaker 3: balanced budget. So that's that's the kind of change that
Speaker 3: it would take. So everyone's really gun shy about turning
Speaker 3: those things off. You see how people are attacking, Oh,
Speaker 3: you want to take away Medicaid and Social Security and
Speaker 3: all these things.
Speaker 2: You want to kill grandma.
Speaker 3: All those attacks get politicized and the reality is you're
Speaker 3: talking about I'm pretty sure we don't need to fund
Speaker 3: a transgender opera in Colombia. You know, those kinds of
Speaker 3: nonsensical things you're too crazy to even make up, right,
Speaker 3: Like this is who would come up with doing this?
Speaker 3: But they really did these things. That alone isn't going
Speaker 3: to save massive money. Big reforms that were bipartisan, like
Speaker 3: you know, but you know, everyone I know would help
Speaker 3: a friend in need or a family member. But at
Speaker 3: some point you would say, hey, if you're able bodied,
Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to get a job, right, or
Speaker 3: at least try to get a job. You're going to
Speaker 3: You could volunteer or go back to school. You could
Speaker 3: do something. But under Obama back in the eight financial crisis,
Speaker 3: they turned that off around the country, right, and we
Speaker 3: want to turn that back on. That's just a common
Speaker 3: sense thing that everyone would do for their own friends
Speaker 3: and family. Why would it be mean for the government
Speaker 3: to do the same thing that will save hundreds of
Speaker 3: billions of dollars every year?
Speaker 2: Just that'll alone.
Speaker 1: In fact, something's happening with the debt because in March
Speaker 1: we had a very low borrowing of it, because maybe
Speaker 1: it's because of the illegal immigration. I looked at twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen numbers. The federal budget in twenty nineteen was four
Speaker 1: point one trillion twenty nineteen. Now, that wasn't exactly the
Speaker 1: dark ages five six years ago. It was four point one.
Speaker 1: Today it's seven point three. So we've had about a
Speaker 1: fifty percent increase in federal spending since twenty nineteen. Why
Speaker 1: can't we go back to twenty nineteen spending levels and
Speaker 1: maybe the Penny plan and get that done. But you
Speaker 1: have no cooperation from the liberal Democrats, zero zilch, nada,
Speaker 1: And so we're not talking about rationing of some type
Speaker 1: or other. To just go back to twenty nineteen levels,
Speaker 1: and you're saying that economically we can't do that.
Speaker 3: Well, not only economically politically, I mean a lot of
Speaker 3: the spending is popular with the public, and frankly, for
Speaker 3: I wish I could say that it was like all
Speaker 3: the Republicans are united here. But if we had one
Speaker 3: party that was good, you know, for big government, and
Speaker 3: one party that was for small government. When we get
Speaker 3: these windows like right now where Republicans control the House,
Speaker 3: the Senate, and the White House, well we'd get smaller government.
Speaker 3: But we're thirty six trillion dollars in debt because the
Speaker 3: most bipartisan thing in Washington, DC is spending money. So
Speaker 3: there are big government Republicans now, granted they want to
Speaker 3: spend money on other things besides that, then Democrats do.
Speaker 3: But the question is how are we going to come
Speaker 3: together to actually get less government?
Speaker 2: And if not?
Speaker 3: Now, when you talk about waiting for a crash or something, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, why would we wait till something is completely.
Speaker 2: Failed before we would take action?
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody knows we're headed towards a path that
Speaker 3: we can't sustain. Can't we work together to turn it off?
Speaker 3: And I think that's the hope is in this one big,
Speaker 3: beautiful bill. We're at least we're not going to get
Speaker 3: balanced right away, but we are going to move in
Speaker 3: that direction. And that's going to be a big win.
Speaker 1: As far as the future government spending and tax increases,
Speaker 1: et cetera. The response of the Democrats are now conducting
Speaker 1: sit ins and other silly ass problems on the steps
Speaker 1: of the Capitol, is to grossly increase income taxes. That is,
Speaker 1: if you make above whatever number you want to draw it.
Speaker 1: I think the top one percent make four hundred thousand
Speaker 1: or more a year.
Speaker 2: They want to.
Speaker 1: Keep spending more and more of the money and taxing
Speaker 1: more and more, and that's never been You can't tax
Speaker 1: your way to prosperity. And when I watched the Democrat
Speaker 1: you would anticipate, I'm a bit of a history major.
Speaker 1: In the first one hundred days of any new president,
Speaker 1: parties put down their red and their blue cloths. They
Speaker 1: get together and say, let's work together, because the voters
Speaker 1: had beside what they wanted. November the fifth, I think
Speaker 1: even Kambala Harris said, let's give the voters what they wanted.
Speaker 1: They ordered, this is give.
Speaker 2: It to them.
Speaker 1: And so now what Trump is doing. And what you're
Speaker 1: doing is giving the voters what they want, which is
Speaker 1: less government strength around the world, shut down the southern border,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But how much cooperation are you getting from
Speaker 1: Democrats to do what the American people said wanted to
Speaker 1: be done. Are you getting any cooperation?
Speaker 2: I mean very little.
Speaker 3: Look, honestly, you know it is that basic. I mean,
Speaker 3: do what you said you would do. I mean, look
Speaker 3: what Donald Trump is doing. He's doing that. The question
Speaker 3: is is Congress doing that? We're not keep it up?
Speaker 3: I mean, and part of the challenges We've passed a
Speaker 3: lot of things in the House. People are like, where's
Speaker 3: this at. Yeah, we actually passed some of those reforms
Speaker 3: in the House. We just can't get a vote in
Speaker 3: the Senate because it takes sixty votes. Democrats aren't helping
Speaker 3: at all, even on things that they've historically agreed on,
Speaker 3: because they don't want to help Donald Trump. Now, to
Speaker 3: be fair, they're doing what they said they would do.
Speaker 3: The question is our Republican's going to unite and do
Speaker 3: what we said we would do, and then we have
Speaker 3: to adapt because you know, they didn't campaign on weaponizing
Speaker 3: the courts against Donald Trump. But that's exactly what they did,
Speaker 3: and thankfully the Trump administration has taken action. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I think last week, you know judges in
Speaker 3: a judge in Wisconsin was arrested for basically trying to
Speaker 3: help an illegal immigrant evade you know, detention by federal authorities.
Speaker 3: And you know, you go to court, you're supposed to
Speaker 3: get justice, not evade justice. And that's exactly what she
Speaker 3: was trying to facilitate. And good on the administration for
Speaker 3: actually charging her.
Speaker 1: Well, and in fact, the other Wisconsin judicial members have
Speaker 1: come out in support of Judge Dougan, a Court of
Speaker 1: Appeals judge and ever. But fortunately the Wisconsin Supreme Court
Speaker 1: suspended her because you cannot commit crime in court wearing
Speaker 1: a robe and claim some sort of cloaking device keeps
Speaker 1: you from following federal criminal law, and she worked actively
Speaker 1: to help a criminal alien escape, and the other judges
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, instead of saying to her, you shouldn't do that,
Speaker 1: Judge Dougan, they still up and said she should have
Speaker 1: done that, And that, to me is the most shocking thing.
Speaker 1: Individuals make misconducts all the time. You commit crime, you
Speaker 1: might do things that are wrong, but to have other
Speaker 1: judges sworn to upholl of the law. Come at your
Speaker 1: side and stand with her. That's the bigger problem.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly what's happening in district courts. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, you're treating non citizens as citizens at every turn.
Speaker 3: You know, you get this Maryland man hoax that's going
Speaker 3: on with a man from El Salvador's returned to El Salvador,
Speaker 3: and they act like it's the end of the world,
Speaker 3: and they want them to have years and years of appeals.
Speaker 3: He's already had those things. He's been ordered to remove twice.
Speaker 3: Judges and law enforcement has found him to have affiliation
Speaker 3: with MS thirteen gangs, and they want them to have
Speaker 3: all the due process in the world. And I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, surely we could find some common ground in saying,
Speaker 3: at least guys like this that are illegally in the
Speaker 3: United States and affiliated with MS thirteen shouldn't be able
Speaker 3: to have the right to keep the bear arms. And
Speaker 3: they go, oh, no, everyone's got all the constitutional rights.
Speaker 3: And you guys don't want me to be able to
Speaker 3: buy guns, but they're okay with the MS thirteen gang
Speaker 3: guy buying them. I mean, people had lost their minds
Speaker 3: and that's exactly they're trying to nullify the entire distinction
Speaker 3: of citizen versus non citizen. I mean, Joe Biden campaigned
Speaker 3: on flooding the countries with illegals. He did that, and
Speaker 3: now they want to prevent the Trump administration from removing
Speaker 3: those people that are illegally in our country. And we
Speaker 3: have to win on that or we're not going to
Speaker 3: have a sovereign country anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, Congressman Warren Davidson of Ohio. One thing Obama
Speaker 1: was the deporter in chief. He deported three point one
Speaker 1: million illegals, far more than Trump did in the first
Speaker 1: term or even the second term of Trump. It won't
Speaker 1: even approach that number. And if you gave hearings in
Speaker 1: due process to all three point one million illegals that
Speaker 1: Obama deported, that the porter in chief was Barack USANBA,
Speaker 1: we would still be having hearings into the next century
Speaker 1: for three point one million, much less the fifteen million
Speaker 1: here illegally. We can have hearings and we can have
Speaker 1: due process, because if we do that, the whole legal
Speaker 1: system shuts down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, let's not say that the Trump administration won't far
Speaker 3: exceed that yet.
Speaker 2: I hope they will, but they're not on pace too.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I mean, the reality is we haven't even hit three.
Speaker 3: Hundred thousand yet, and they were bringing over three hundred
Speaker 3: thousand illegals in per month at periods of time during
Speaker 3: the Biden administration. So I mean, the you know, it's
Speaker 3: just a basic math problem. The outflow has to exceed
Speaker 3: the inflow, and that's happening right now. But it has
Speaker 3: to go where the outflow during these four years exceeds
Speaker 3: the inflow during Biden's four years. And then we have
Speaker 3: to pass a law, you know, the one big beautiful bill.
Speaker 2: One of that we're going to get money in to
Speaker 2: secure the border.
Speaker 3: But the thing that you can't do with reconciliation is
Speaker 3: structurally change immigration law. And that's what we need. I mean,
Speaker 3: this can't be like a tennis match where you're watching
Speaker 3: one side back and forth matters. No, it doesn't, Yes
Speaker 3: it does, and it's all executive action. We need a
Speaker 3: law that compels every single executive in the United States
Speaker 3: to enforce the law, and if you fail to, when
Speaker 3: we have to put people in jail. I mean, to me,
Speaker 3: it's mind blowing that we couldn't impeach and remove Alejandro Majorchis,
Speaker 3: who was High Secretary for Homeland Security. He was enabling
Speaker 3: an invasion of the country when his charge as secretary
Speaker 3: is to stop it. He was flagrantly violating the law
Speaker 3: of the United States and he's never been charged with it.
Speaker 3: We didn't even remove him from office with impeachment, and
Speaker 3: I think it's shameful. I mean, these folks have to
Speaker 3: be held accountable. If there's no reckoning, they're going to
Speaker 3: do it again every chance they get.
Speaker 1: Can't go back and forth every four years from We've
Speaker 1: got to institutionalize these changes. But Congressman, stay strong there
Speaker 1: in Washington. I don't like increasing the debt ceiling again,
Speaker 1: either four trillion or five trillion, but it's something that
Speaker 1: must be done in the short term to have long
Speaker 1: term benefits. And Congressmen warn't Davidson once again, thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and you promise
Speaker 1: to stay strong.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: You know, by God's grace and the encouragement of my constituents,
Speaker 3: I know they sent me here to fight for them.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of people think that
Speaker 3: their constituents sent them here to follow orders in DC.
Speaker 3: I don't know anyone that could win on that message,
Speaker 3: and you certainly can't win as Southwest Ohio doing that.
Speaker 3: We're here to fight for Southwest Ohio and the greatest
Speaker 3: state in the country. We're making great progress and hopefully
Speaker 3: we get a government small enough to fit back inside
Speaker 3: the constitution. You know, we can afford one that small.
Speaker 3: The problem is we got he a fatal over to us,
Speaker 3: a government coming our way. We got to turn some
Speaker 3: of that off.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was selected and elected in order to fundamentally
Speaker 1: change the direction of this country. The military enlistments are up,
Speaker 1: there's more people volunteering and going into the FBI. There's
Speaker 1: this sense of mourning in America once again. In Congressman
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: God bless you and God bless America.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much and all your listeners. Thanks Bill,
Speaker 2: God bless you all.
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