Speaker 1: So we know from Politico that USAID officials were told
by one of the higher ups to shred and burn
all your documents. I haven't seen Pambondi or cash Ptel
jump into action with federal marshals going to stop that.
Speaker 2: Weird.
Speaker 1: I'm going to bet there were a lot of documents
burned at the CDC and the FDA and the National
Institute of Health. And we are five years out from
the lockdowns. And remember it wasn't a full lockdown. The
only lockdown key segments of society. And there's a piece
in the Boston Globe, and in this piece, a Globe
staff writer, David Scharfenberg, relies on a new book about
the lockdowns and the FOUCH to tell truth about what
happened in that time period. But it's a fascinating thing
because even as they now want to tell truth as
mistakes were made, still ignore the core truth. This was
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Speaker 3: But Todd Herman's show is one disapproved by big pharma
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Here's the Emerald City exime Todd Herman.
Speaker 1: Today is a day the Lord has made and these
are the times which God has decided with shore life.
You know, we have the book coming out by Jake
Tapster Tapper and the guy from Axios, and it's about
the cover up of Joe Biden's dementia and Jake, of course,
one of the chief cover uppers of that as was
the publication Axios. And it's fascinating to see them want
to step back and now say, oh, well, we were
the truth tellers.
Speaker 4: That wasn't true.
Speaker 1: But we cannot begin the discussion of the lockdown period
without a look back at the media. But let's not
even take a look back to that era. Let's look
back about a week, maybe two weeks ago, were famous
comedian John Stewart was talking about the state media in Hungary.
Speaker 5: So you're saying, if you have a media machine that
purposefully lies to its people to maintain a political fiction
and get themselves power, that that is the hallmark of
an authoritarian system, not a democratic system. Absolutely well, if
we were ever to get something like that in the
United States, we would be horrified, furious to know that
there was an entire media organization designed to bend reality,
to manipulate facts to maintain power. It would if I may,
and I don't I'm not trying to slam hungry, it
would never happen in.
Speaker 2: The United States.
Speaker 5: It's just not I almost can't even conjure it imagining.
It must be very difficult to live in a country
where one media organization, out of whole cloth, knowingly, explicitly,
maybe even in meetings behind the scenes, might say we're
a lying saying to our audience holy, and then call
for newspeople to be fired for telling the truth. I mean,
if something like that happened in the United States, it
would be a dark day and ded so I appreciate
you to.
Speaker 4: Look on her face for us.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the look on her face, and she
knows he doesn't get what's going on in America. She's
looking at him with pity. John Stewart, Your media decided
that they would ignore basic common sense during the lockdown period.
There was not a human being.
Speaker 4: Alive capable of believing.
Speaker 1: That wearing a mask when you walk into a restaurant
but then taking it off when you eat made sense.
No one was capable of believing that, and the Mockingbird
media pretended it was believable. No one was capable of believing,
as was the rule in the separate country of Washington.
Speaker 4: State, that if you went golfing, you could do.
Speaker 1: That in a couples or two pairs if you were
from the same family, but only three if you were
from different families, because.
Speaker 4: That's how you stop the spread of COVID.
Speaker 1: The Mockingbird media was at the center of this deception.
They all spoke the same language, they all used the
same verbiage, stay home, stay safe. They all relied on
the same so called experts. None of them asked any
legitimate questions.
Speaker 4: And we know this.
Speaker 1: Because those of us who did ask legitimate questions from
the very very beginning, like if I can smell a
cantelope walking through a grocery store through my woke mask,
how is that stopping the virus? And when we began
to ask questions like this and then actually just do
cursory searches of the size of a viral molecule versus
the opening in a mask one tenth of a micron
versus one one hundredth of a micron, you can fit
one hundred viral molecules in the hole of one hole
of a mask, one tiny hole.
Speaker 4: When community calls.
Speaker 1: Dropouts like me could go do that math and communicate
it to our audiences. How is it that the world's
biggest investigative journalists and journalism organizations couldn't do the same thing.
Reading this Boston Globe piece is unbelievably frustrating. This all began,
of course, with event to a one. Somehow Dave and Schardberger,
who wrote this for the Boston Globe, could not find
that event. It's written in the way that everybody just
got it wrong. They just panicked. They just didn't understand
what was going on, and so they panicked and David
Scharfenberger tells all these core truths. There were people who
were panicked, but not the people who planned this event.
Event to a one, practiced this. They laid out the
scenarios of how are you going to scare people? How
are you going to convince people that their kids will die,
their grammars will die. They even used the same image
for the COVID molecule, the same cartoon image, because it
tested well.
Speaker 4: In the background.
Speaker 1: They were running a forty five million dollar test at
Harvard University to figure out the six or seven ways
you could con people, scare people, blackmail people, reward people
into taking the shots. The shots were pre licensed, pre patented.
Everybody knew they were going to push the mRNAs Blackrock
had already stepped up and said we need to infuse
seven hundred and fifty billion fake dollars into the economy.
That happened during the lockdown. When those of us who
began asking legitimate questions like this, how is it that
you have shut down the government schools because all the
kids will die, but then you turn them into daycare
centers because none of the kids will die, We were
labeled heretics and bands and shadow bands, and had our
Facebook presences destroyed, and our Twitter presence is destroyed, and
a lot of us.
Speaker 4: Have ever come back from that.
Speaker 1: So let's get into this piece from the Boston Globe,
And again this is David Scharfenberg writing Globe staff writer.
The virus felt so frightening back then, so unexpected.
Speaker 4: It did.
Speaker 1: Tony Fauci told us there was going to be a virus.
He told us Trump was going to face a pandemic.
Speaker 4: That's what he told us.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel unexpected to those of us who said, hey,
what's event to one about when we were asking that
question in at advance. Back to the article, and if
public health officials made some mistakes, you might be convinced
by this point that they kept schools closed too long.
You're willing to cut them some slack people like Infectious
Disease Chief Anthony Fauci were doing the best they could
with the information they had. They were following the science,
and we got to the other side in better shape
than we might have. We made some mistakes during the
COVID nineteen pandemic. But if there's something comforting in this story,
even a little triumphant, there's just one problem.
Speaker 4: It's almost completely wrong.
Speaker 1: According to Princeton University's political scientists Stephen Merceto and Francis
Lee's scathing new book, In the COVID's Way, how our
politics failed us. And they're telling faucin is ILK didn't
follow the science. They betrayed it, pressing for lockdowns even
though experts had worn for years there was little evidence
to support such drastic intervention.
Speaker 4: You're discovering this now. It took a book to tell
you this.
Speaker 1: I'm legitimately a community college dropouts, not even didn't make
it to the first year when football ended, I ended.
I first soft dropped out, and then just dropped out.
I was able to go avail myself of studies held
by the CDC, the biggest studies.
Speaker 4: In the history of studies.
Speaker 1: These are meta analyzes of mask behaviors, largest study ever conducted.
Masks don't stop the spread of upper respiratory viruses. The
CDC knew this. They knew this about lockdowns. Alex is
sitting here in the studio with me today. You were
with me on the radio when we would constantly refer
to that piece the CDC's own advice. Tony Fauci's star
staffers said, do not lock down in the case of
an upper respiratory virus. And yet what was the event
to a one. It was to lock people down. Why
because people would do anything to get their lives back.
At least this piece recognizes the harm this did. They
do talk about the harm of but he does talk
about the harm of learning with kids and emotional growth.
He doesn't get into the increased suicides. He doesn't get
into the increased dependence upon prescription drugs psychotropics that are
destroying the minds of children. He doesn't get into the
increased addiction to pornography which is destroying souls, and doesn't
touch on any of that. But yep, there was a
lost learning cycle.
Speaker 4: Back to this piece.
Speaker 1: When the public health officials ran into discent, they squorched it.
So did you, So did your newspaper. Every Mockingbird media outlet,
including Fox News, for a time a long time, banned
any question of this stuff. There were people fired for
questioning it. There were people like me who were put
on warning, you are spreading conspiracy theories.
Speaker 4: I didn't stop.
Speaker 1: I simply said, here's my theory, And how is it
that we turned out to be right on everything.
Speaker 4: They're doing this again.
Speaker 1: As we'll show you today day Peter McCullough is going
to tell you why this bird flu probably came from
an FDA lab or by the USDA lab. This is
the same USDA that has approved injections for cattle, you know,
to keep them safe from the bird flu. In Canada,
by the way, they just ordered the culling of ostriches
and other farm birds. And in that culling, guess what
they're doing. They're not checking the birds to find out
which birds have acquired natural immunity, because you would want
the birds who'd acquired natural immunity to live, right, because
the birds who acquired natural immunity would pass that on
to their offspring right through T cell and crossover immunities,
the versions of those for birds, they would pass on
the herd immunity. But they want all the birds killed.
It's the same exact syop with the same exact kill
shoot target, a vaccine platform that causes the body to
produce items poison us to the body, the same swindle,
and it's into our food supply. They're not culling wild birds.
When the Boston Globe takes this long to allow a
piece like this in their pages, and they still are
unwilling to admit that. Event two one was the planning
and rehearsal for this. God help us when they come
and tell us, Well, maybe they don't tell us this time.
You're just going to eat the delicious meat with the delicious.
Speaker 4: Vaccine in it. Back to the piece, and.
Speaker 1: Despite all the sacrifice, the United States still had a
much higher death rate than other wealthy nations. At a
critical moment, American science abandons its most fundamental tenets. It's
forsook inquiry, It muzzled debate. Did you hear that admission?
The United States had a higher death rate than all
the other developed nations? Why because we said lock us
down harder? Papa Sweden continues to lead the world in
low death rates, the country that said no know to
the lockdowns and not of the injections. In mass injection countries,
cancer this is me, not him. They won't touch this
at the Boston Globe. In mass injection countries, of course,
cancers have skyrocketed. There's these turbo cancers, there's intests and
colon cancers in nine year olds. There's sudden deaths among
groups of people who don't die. Suddenly there's Pfizer purchasing
heart attack drugs. There's ads that ran on buses saying,
remember kids have strokes too, here's how to know the signs.
Remember there were TV ads that ran in the big
media markets about how kids have heart attacks. Get your
kid in for testing, because it's very common for kids
to have heart attacks. It's never been common for kids
to have heart attacks. It became common because of the shots.
That's not covered in here, but they do go back
and say some things that were verified absolute fever swamp
lies of disinformation, like how social distancing became a thing
again from the Boston Globe talking about Georgia B.
Speaker 2: Bush.
Speaker 1: When Bush returned to the White House, he demanded a
full fledged strategy for the next pandemic. Speeding up vaccine
development and isolating the sick wouldn't do. It would have
to be a whole of society approach, borders, commerce, everything.
The key figures on the White House task force charged
to developing a plan were doctor Richard Hatchett, an On
College's term presidential advisor, and doctor Carter Mescher, a blunt
spoken executive with the Veterans Administration, who developed a reputation
as an out of the box thinker. In the early
stages of their deliberations, someone put Mercher in touch with
Bob Glass, a scientist at Sandya National Laboratories in New Mexico. Glassid, recently,
you ready for this. I remember when I began talking
about this.
Speaker 4: I'll get to it.
Speaker 1: When I began talking about this on my radio program,
and this was one of those program director meetings. Went
off the air, sat down, got a phone call, Hey,
can we talk? Yes, what's going on? I need you
to stop saying that social distancing came from a teenage girl.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I'm not going to stop saying that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I need you to know that we this morning
received a call from the New York Times, and not
only are they demanding evidence for this, they're also writing
a piece that's going to call you out to someone
who shouldn't be allowed to host Rush Loumbo's program.
Speaker 4: And I laughed. I laughed out.
Speaker 1: Loud, and he said, it's not a funny thing. They're
a very powerful media organization. This could really hurt us
with advertisers, and I said, no, it can't. But what
hurt us with advertisers is a loss in audience, and
that's not going to happen because of this. The New
York Times doesn't persuade our audience about anything. Secondly, I'm
here to tell you already know because I've already had
communications like this with EIB. Russia's team, the bosses the
New York Times has no effect on how they view
the hosts. The New York Times could come and try
to ruin me, and I know for a fact that
EIB would have my back because I've been told by
the biggest bosses never worry about that.
Speaker 4: And I can also tell you this.
Speaker 1: I can go on Russia's program the next time I'm
gifted to host, and I can talk about this. I
could make it a full hour or three hours if
I like they've said, you have the full disposal of
the EIB network. If you are attacked by the Mockingbird
media for anything you say in this program, you get
something wrong, apologize. But I'm not going to stop saying
that this was invented by a teenage girl because it
was invented by a teenage girl.
Speaker 4: And my boss said, well, then I need to see
the proof of that.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Back to the Boston Globe piece, we'll go back a
sentence here. In the early stages of the deliberations, someone
put Metcher in touch with Bob Glass, a scientist at
Sandy National Laboratories in New Mexico. Glass had recently helped
his teenage daughter with a science project that examined how
infection spreads through social networks, and he'd homed in on
a strategy that went back centuries but seemed to be
getting little attention in contemporary epidemiology. Social distancing Metro was
intrigued when he started messing around with Glass's model of
disease spread. He alighted on what looked like the single
most important strategy for suppressing flu like viruses. Holy s word,
he said in his eureka moment. Nothing big happens until
you close the schools, pause, and rewind. He chose not
to tell the whole story. Bob Glass helped his daughter
with computer modeling. They guessed at six feet.
Speaker 4: What was that?
Speaker 1: Based upon droplets water filled molecules that come out of
your mouth and float and drop.
Speaker 4: Guess what water vaporates.
Speaker 1: Your little tiny bits of spit from your lungs lands
on things. The water evaporates, the molecules float, around. People
sneeze and they walk, and fans blow, and there are
tens of billions of viral particles spread when you're walking
around a store and there's people walking near you, even
six feet away. This gave rise to the magic plastic blockades,
the plexiglass between you and the cashiers that was thought
to mitigate this. You can choose to believe that this
was all all mistakes, but then you'd have to choose
to ignore epidemiological science like this.
Speaker 4: Diseases up.
Speaker 1: Respiratory diseases like COVID stop when they hit viral dead ends,
evolutionary dead ends. Kids are that dead end. Every time
a block of society gains herd immunity, the virus has
fewer places to safely grow and mutate. If the schools
were never locked down, as is shown through the data
from Sweden, and when the schools were never locked down,
they didn't kill grandma and grandpa. They killed the disease
because the disease went into these kids' bodies. Their immune
systems were flesh and afresh and flush and healthy, and
it killed the disease in the bodies of the kids,
and it didn't mutate and leave their bodies as a
strength and strain when people do not destroy the virus
and it destroys them, the strange grow if school kids
had not been locked down. This pandemic such as it
was because it wasn't truly a pandemic, because remember, prior
to it becoming a pandemic, the World Health Organization changed
the rules so that there never needed to be a
single death to call it a pandemic. They knew this
out of event to a one they needed to be
able to call it a pandemic. This piece ignores so
much like why were they patenting the virus before it
went live? Why was the virus in the wild for
three years before they admitted it was in the wild.
Why did they suddenly change the name of this Why
did public health officials pretend that we had a year
without the flu? How much of the tests of the
COVID that the PCR was actually people finding old flu
viruses or old code viruses. It doesn't get into any
of the pre planning that went into this. Yes, it
indicts fauci, Yes, it indicts the National Institute of Health.
It indicts them from making mistakes, for being wrongheaded, for
being panicked, and there probably were people who were panicked,
but not Tony Fauci. Fauci was involved in the key
planning aspects of this. Fauci knew what he was doing,
in my judgment, when he turned on a dime from
having said well, if I was a young person, I
would go on a cruise to Italy right now because
prices are very low and young people are not a risk.
He knew what he was doing. He knew in amounter
of weeks he'd come back at the right time politically
and say, well, actually, there is good news in this.
And there's a great Twitter thread on this, and it's
an accounts I'd not followed before this called clown baskets.
Lots of five years ago stories coming out. COVID trauma
is real, but think of benefits. We've got to see
how people, including those close to us behave all afraid.
The Marxists who'd been playing the long games sped up
their tactics and overplayed everything. The bureaucrats across the West
overacted and exposed incredible power from their unelected positions. The
educational system and unions revealed their self interests and lack
of interest in students and learning is being called racist
is not a death penalty anymore. Doctors have lost incredible
amounts of respect and are now viewed as black and
white problem solvers with little ability to think critically or skeptically.
Globalist organizations are now viewed as communist control orgs. Conspiracies
are now looked at with interest. Common sense is back,
mocking powers back. I don't like this word. Retard is back.
Conservatism and libertarianism are cool again. Spirituality and protectible Christianities
on the rise.
Speaker 4: Praise God.
Speaker 1: Masculinity is recognized as valuable. The Second Amendments understood. The
trades are back. Abortion is no longer discussed as a
primary reason to vote one way.
Speaker 4: Or the other. Well, that's not true.
Speaker 1: It's just discussed among about fifteen percent of the left.
The deep state or fourth branch is acknowledged or centralized
media and sources of knowledge are doubted. The Constitution's not
taken for granted. USDA and food generally is questioned. Vaccines
are part of an open public dialogue, shedding a microscope
on their value, risk benefit. The concept of capture of science,
government and corporations is common speak. There's motivation to address corruptions.
The Republican and Democrat parties have collapsed as we know them.
The systems of health are looked at mor as business
is bent on keeping us unhealthy for profit. Climate change
is starting to get a second look, even by its
most ardent followers. Birth rates are discussed, children and families
are starting to be valued. The left's version of feminism
is being exposed and is self immolating. Liberalism is back
because conservatives, while liberal, are sinking on the ship of liberalism.
It's a good list.
Speaker 4: They're doing it again, and they continue.
Speaker 1: To block reasonable cures. The cartel continues to make sure
that people in America suffer from things that not being
able to move their hands or to work, suffer to
the point that the only conclusion is, you know what,
the only way for you to live life is painkillers.
I'm going to play for you an interview I did
earlier with a guy who was in that position. It
was painkillers or it was no life. Because of the
laws in America, they continue to use this power to
bottleneck actual treatment. Doctor Peter McCullough has analyzed the bird
flu He talked with Dell Bigtree.
Speaker 4: That's what it is now.
Speaker 6: Our research at McCullough Foundation and NI Kosher the lead.
This strain of bird flu is different. This looks like
it has actually come from serial passage research done at
the USDA Poultry Research Laboratory in Athens, Georgia. Is when
there's a blend of viral strains that's intentionally put, in
this case, in a mallard duck. They were trying to
see which strain would pass to the next mallard duck.
And the mallard ducks are studied because their gullet is
where the virus attaches, but it doesn't go into the lungs.
And indeed, they found clade two three four four six
that look like it transmitted and sure enough, you know,
that's where the first cases were around Athens, Georgia.
Speaker 1: Now, this is an element that was invented by the USDA.
Where you talking about these clades.
Speaker 6: The unique aspect to this clade is that it was
very mild in the mallard ducks. They could spread it
all over another migratory waterfole. It quickly spread into mammals.
We're now up to about forty different species of mammals.
And so what you know the USDA and other public
health officials have done. You know, over the last several
decades is what's called biosecurity.
Speaker 1: So this is he'll explain it better than I do,
but let me give a broad explanation for people like me.
What they're doing is gain of function. And we're told
that gain of function is a way to defend ourselves
against any and all viruses that could arrive through random mutation.
Speaker 4: Can we just we check that.
Speaker 1: We're using intelligent design means run by human beings in
tests to mimic random mutation by nature. Does anyone not
understand how insane that is people who still cling to
the myth that life came through random mutation and that
we are not a species organized by information. All species
are organized by a core of information that did not
arrive accidentally. Meaningful information has never been randomly created. It
can't happen.
Speaker 4: How insane it is that some people.
Speaker 1: That are like are going to out randomly mutate billions
and billions and billions and billions of years and billions
and billions and billds of interactions.
Speaker 4: Of course, they can't do that. What's worse.
Speaker 1: Is that they're taking their gain of function results and
putting it into the wild.
Speaker 4: Apparently or it leaked back to mccullor.
Speaker 6: So biosecurity would be this idea that, well, if one
chicken has bird flu, if we sterilize the whole farm,
they won't get it again. Well, that doesn't work in
this case because the Mallard ducks will just continue to
reinfect the farms. In fact, a guest on that clip
you showed pointed that out. So immediately we think we
should not do culling because of the fact we can't
stop the reinfection with the Mallard ducks. But this is
how they do it. This is how they do it, Dell.
They will take samples of about eleven birds on different swabs,
put it into the same test tube.
Speaker 4: Did you hear that.
Speaker 1: Results of eleven birds into one swab got that?
Speaker 4: Does that make sense to anybody?
Speaker 1: If you're trying to figure out which birds have the flu,
use the same swab on eleven birds got.
Speaker 6: It, and then do another eleven and then a different
test tube, and then they send it off. Now they
throw the birds back into the coop or the bin,
so they don't know which birds are tested, and so
when one of the tubes turns positive, you never know
which bird. The decision is to cull them to kill
them all. And when they extinguish all the birds by
either pulling the oxygen out of the chambers or smothering
them with foam, what happens is the whole facility has
to be sterilized, disinfected. And our research shows Dell is
taken offline for one hundred and eleven days.
Speaker 1: And the birds had natural immunity. Don't get to pass
that on to birds they would raise. The food supply
is shut down from that facility for one hundred and
eleven days. All following birds have to be injected.
Speaker 4: Got it?
Speaker 1: Understand the state of play. The culling, are the lockdowns.
This is what the USDA is demonstrating to people who
raise our food supply. You can get your animals injected,
or we'll kill them.
Speaker 4: This is happening under President Trump. Robert F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior has said he does not want this so
called vaccine in the food supply. The heads of the CDC,
the FDA, and the National Institute of Health have said,
we do not want these vaccines in the food supply.
They've never been tested. Does this sound familiar. There's no
possible way they've been tested to any degree. That matters
because there's no long term testing most of its modeling.
Does that sound familiar? This is the covid psyop done
a different way with the same bottleneck the vaccine. So
the Boston Globe comes out and says mistakes were made.
How many people were murdered because they weren't allowed ivermectin
or hydroxychloroquine. How many were were murdered because they were
forced to be put on vents when they shouldn't have been,
and given remdem severe when they shouldn't have been, and
put on the same cocktail of drugs that they give
end stage hospice patients when they shouldn't have been. And
you know, we've interviewed families whose loved ones were murdered.
How many birds have been destroyed or the same syop.
How many people right now are living in incredible pain
because that's where pharma wats them, because the bottleneck is, Look,
there's just nothing we can do. You're gonna have to
live in this pain. And if the surgeries aren't working,
you're still gonna have to live in this pain. It's
just there's nothing we can do. The same way they
blocked ivermactin and hydroxy chloroquine and high sometimes intervenous vitamin C,
high amounts of vitamin D. The same way they blocked that,
the same way they blocked oxidative treatments, the same way
they blocked the IV or the light treatments, and for
light treatments.
Speaker 4: That were the same way they blocked all of this.
Speaker 1: They're blocking access to real cures on things we talk
about on this program. I sat down and had a
conversation earlier with a gentleman who when you'll hear what
was happening to him. He could not get treatment in
the United States because it was illegal, so he went
to Mexico. He got treatment, but something else happened. Sure,
he got better. I knew that would happen.
Speaker 4: His wife got.
Speaker 1: Her life saved because of a test they don't run
up here because cardiologists don't want these tests run up here.
All too many cardiologists are doing everything they can to
block test. We run a test on the nonprofit board
of a health of a health center called Heart of
Hope Health in Hayden, Idaho. We run a test that
can tell you if you have myocarditis or para carditis.
Speaker 4: Takes about a half an hour and we can tell
you right there you.
Speaker 1: Have myocarditis or paracarditis, both of which can lead to
heart attacks. Cardiologists are trying to block that because it
puts them out of work. In Mexico, this lady went
down with her husband. She didn't intend to get any
stem cells. But wait till you hear what happened. I
talked with this patient and Steve Anderson from renew about
what happened and why you're not allowed to have these
cures up here. All right, Robert Dietrich patient and Steve Anderson,
managing director, managed partner renew Dot Healthcare, joins us at Robert,
welcome to the Todd Herman Show. And thank you for
being a listener all these years. And I'm going to
give you a free subscriptions. He can be a viewer,
check us out on youtail all that. But welcome man,
appreciate you being here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, excellent, Glad to be here and glad to share it.
Speaker 4: So how did you learn about renew Like I don't know?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, yeah, actually I was trying to get in
on one of those trips that you offer group down there,
and uh, because it was just a constant going to
the chiropractor, going to a massage therapist, alternating them about
every week.
Speaker 7: I was at the Cairo every two weeks and in
between then.
Speaker 9: I was at the massage therapies and I just couldn't
get out of pain anymore. And I kept listening and
I'm taking my krill, I'm taking my my you know,
I have my coffee in the morning, bone frog.
Speaker 7: Of course, well it's oh, it's awesome, and.
Speaker 9: Uh so anyhow, I I was just at my wits end,
and then it started getting into my sleep and and
messing with my sleep.
Speaker 7: So we did some MRI, we did some.
Speaker 9: X ray, and then figured out, this is probably the
only way I can do this in a natural sense.
I didn't want to go to the I'm not you know,
I don't even take tile at all, but just try
to stay as natural and healthy as I can getting older.
But that was that was the answer. So got Ahold
of Renew. They punched me in with Kathleen, who was
a sort of liaison to get me all dialed in
and get all my medical get things into Renew. Then
we had a couple of color conferences and it just all.
Speaker 7: Made sense that yeah, let's let's try this out. You know,
I heard your soul shoulder and I repair other people's testimony.
Speaker 9: So mostly for me is common sense is listen to
common sense, listen to.
Speaker 7: Others that have been there, walk that walk, and then
try it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so thank you.
Speaker 7: It was amazing.
Speaker 4: So what was life like for you? This is this
arthritic pain?
Speaker 1: Was its joint pain and like limitations on movements probably,
Like I mean, what was life like?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Well it was tough. Yeah, I mean I'm I'm a.
Speaker 9: Construction guy, plumbing contractor, remodeling, building homes, things like that,
so it's very physical. Got the kids involved. They thank
God for you. I let them do all the hard,
struggle looking stuff. Started backing away from that. Yeah, I
just couldn't do it anymore. Everything hurt. At the end
of the day. I usually do a little pickup thing
around the house, you know, little projects are always going on.
I stopped doing that. I just had to go sit
down and rest and then I'll tell you. Yeah, I
mean it was debilitating my neck. I had one hundred
and eighty million put there because of degenerating discs and
other injuries. You know, surfed a lot, construction, dirt bike riding. Yeah,
all this thing that beats your body up, and those
little things are coming back to hunt me and degenerative
just down my lower spine in my l bracket area
and then my knees and so one knee was salvageable,
thank god, and the stem cells are doing wonders there
pain in all of that, but my right knee was so.
Speaker 7: Far gone as far as no cartilage and everything. So
but I'm actually coming back down there for the knee surgery.
Awes renew is amazing in a way of resourcing, and
if they can't do it, they refer.
Speaker 9: You to somebody that's qualified and expert that can't.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, And there's a lot more to this
story that that is. I think it's miraculous and that
let's pause there for a second and a number one,
thank you for trusting me, and b thank you for
going down and bringing back this proof. Steve, how does
all how does this all work? I know you're a doctor,
but you know this stuff as cold as anybody. How
did it all work in Robert's body that you were
able to deliver this help? I mean, I've talked about
what the stem cells do, but you're more eloquent on it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think what Robert experienced is something that we
see a lot of, and that is is that that
in essence, the science is pretty simple really.
Speaker 2: You know, we're when we were.
Speaker 10: Born, we had a plethora of stem cells in our body, right,
and as we get older they start to they've died
and can't regenerate themselves. And and so that's why we
use we're called alogenetic or or donor stem cells that
are technically for the big words, they're wardens jelly derived
day zero mesankamal stem cells is technically the name of them.
Speaker 4: But dude, I'll let you say it that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that three times fast.
Speaker 10: They come from the cored portion after a successful birth.
It's really important to us that mama and baby have
to be okay, and they're ethically derived and then and
so stem cells have really three properties that Robert is experiencing.
The first one is is that they're incredibly anti inflammatory
in nature. Right, So what we see in especially in
his particular case with the lumbar, you know, you see
these kind of facet joints that sit on one side
of the spine and then the discs kind of sit
between and It's kind of like as these facet joints,
over time, we see this kind of degeneration or their
ability to hold up that load starts to you know,
they start to fall a little bit. When they do,
it's just like squeezing a balloon, right that disk has
to have somewhere to go, and what it does is
when it gets squeezed, it kind of protrudes out into
the nerve bank. And that's what he was experiencing, is
this incredible pain that comes from something, you know, poking
into your nerve bank. So that anti inflammatory nature takes
out a lot of that inflammation, and we start to
see these discs, you know, where the pressure starts to
come off them as this inflammation is not kind of
holding everything. Now, then the second property is this this
regeneration that takes place. Right, so some of those cells
start to assign themselves as.
Speaker 2: Bone or disc.
Speaker 10: Or or you know, or soft tissue, and so then
we start to see this kind of regeneration that happens.
So what he's experiencing right now is because of the
time from his treatment is kind of this anti inflammatory
nature and the regeneration starting to kick in, and that
kind of peaks if you will. Around the sixth, a
month after the actual treatment itself. So what we say
to people is after six months, it is what it is.
You know you the benefit that you've gotten is better now.
In his case, thank god, it's been incredible, right, it's
been life changing in terms of it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of having my life back.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 1: So it's like you're it's like you said, it's like
having your life back. You can do the things that
have defined you as a band.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, because even even the kids.
Speaker 9: Had noticed, like that, you just jumped right out of
that van and you know what, and you got this
and you're helping out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like amazing.
Speaker 9: I just feel no pain and I feel h yeah,
I got my movement back.
Speaker 2: It's all gotten.
Speaker 4: Praise God. That wasn't it. Your wife went with you?
Speaker 9: No, yeah, that was on my trip unexpectedly. But it
was amazing because Steve brought me over. He says, let
me show you this, and they were doing that preventative
sort of go look at your heart scan, uh see
with the vessels and inside the heart, outside the heart,
like really wow, And then Doddie had a triple bypass.
My wife, what was it six years prior, and so
she was just just curious of hey, how's that going
and what is that looking like for me? So electively
we said, hey, while we're down here, let's take advantage
of that and see what's going on. Yeah, it's good
to know things right, uh, and preemptively, wow, yeah, we
we pivoted at ninety degrees or just immediately right to
the hospital.
Speaker 4: They found So what did they did they find in
your wife's heart?
Speaker 9: They found two blockages, one almost one hundred percent closed, yeah,
and then another one was on its way about ninety percent,
and asking her, you know, do you have chest pains?
Speaker 7: Do you have dizzyness?
Speaker 9: And they yeah, you know, but I didn't know what
it was, and so well, you know what it was
there is is you got two hours and we're going
to see you in the emergency room. And it was
just I couldn't believe it actually, how quick, how defined
and how.
Speaker 7: I mean professional it was.
Speaker 9: She was in there taking care of it and thank god,
and you know, down the lobby for I don't know,
four or five hours and then up to recovery and
all of that and then gosh, we're in the plane
in three days today and she seemed great. Yeah, it
took a little bit, you know, get back and get
used to up the stairs because we have a two
story so you know. Yeah, and that blood float going.
She's still feeling it. But gosh, yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 4: You could say they saved their life.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, absolutely, without a doubt.
Speaker 9: Yeah, because it could have been on the way home,
it could have been at any minute, because it was
that bad.
Speaker 10: Incredible, Yeah, yeah, Todd, it's amazing. It's the technical nature
of what happened was that we have we do what's
called a CCTA, which is basically cardiac tomography, so it
makes a full three D rendering of your whole cardiovascular system.
The test takes about oh thirty minutes, of which roughly
twenty three or twenty four of those minutes is just
getting hooked up to the to the equipment, and then
we have to run a what's called a pickline or
an IV where because we're going to run contrast to
make sure that we can see it. You're in the
machine on basically for three passes. It's not claustrophobic at all.
It takes about three or four minutes to do the
actual test itself. And then the really cool part about
it is by the time you get up off of
the the the CT table and get your you know,
your clothing back on, our cardiologist has already has it
rendering in the control room and and so you get
to go sit in the control room and he takes
you right through it. Now, in Dottie's case, obviously it
was a serious situation. We could see the blockage clearly
on the on the screen and so no need to
even do a stress test at that point. I mean,
we know that she's in trouble. And and then it
takes us, you know, three four hours to get the
team spooled up, to get in the o R and
to take care of what the issue is. But then,
as he said, which is super cool, basically, what was it, Robert,
three days later, you guys are on the plane on the.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, we just had to do some re scheduling
for the hotel and that was helpful. Everybody's helping, and yeah,
because we're going to and fro then got her to
the hotel rest of to day.
Speaker 10: And it's more that, by the way, statistically it's somewhere
around twelve to fifteen percent of the population is walking
around at any one time, not really presenting symptoms. We
just I don't know if Robert knows this or not.
We just had this happen with one of our golf ambassadors,
Fred Funk, who won twenty nine times worldwide, won the
Players Championship. Ryder Cupper, really well known, kind of household name.
Speaker 2: He was down. We were going to inject his knee.
Speaker 10: He was having some osteoarthritis and his knee and I said, hey,
you know Fred.
Speaker 2: Weyer here, this is now.
Speaker 10: This is a professional athlete, right, has been for thirty years,
walks five miles every day.
Speaker 2: Right, And I said, hey, you know why you're here.
Speaker 10: Why don't we Why don't we pop you it in
the machine and let's take a quick look. Ninety seven
percent blocked and his widow maker on one side, seventy
five percent on the other. Three hours later he was
in the or for it. It was a multi part
procedure because of where his blockage was. It was a
very technical procedure. So the first time, the first pass
took about three and a half hours. I left him
about twelve forty five in the morning and the ICU
we wanted to keep him in ICU overnight just to
make sure, and then we waited two days to do
put in the other two stints, so he got a
total of three stints. Now has had an echo cardiogram.
Speaker 2: He's clear.
Speaker 10: He's got the heart of a forty five year old,
you know, a thirty five year old rank god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't you know, if he weren't on
that regiment of walking five miles a day and his
heart wasn't that healthy, I think he'd be gone phenomenal.
And this is something that people can do either separately
come down to part of our they get that done separately,
or get it done obviously them and they're down there
with the stem cells, and this is something I think
people have to do at the end. Agent one thing
I've learned Steve. I mean there's a lot of things
I've learned from you. My concept of of medicine and Mexico.
Speaker 4: Was completely screwed up.
Speaker 1: The hospital you guys are next door to is utterly
world class. I had cat scans done there and Robert
you probably had the same, the same discovery of Wow,
these people are incredible professionals.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh oh absolutely yeah. I mean, like I say, it.
Speaker 9: Was kind of interesting when we first got there and
going through the hecrobolic chamber and back and forth on
my account and before we found out about Dottie situation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know, and just learning. Yeah, everybody's there
to help.
Speaker 9: Everybody's there to just make sure your visit and and
what you're there for. That it just goes off without
a hitch. Everybody's on time. They got Caesar and they got.
Speaker 4: He is he is so friends. Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 7: Down there, it's like a friendly, you know atmosphere I is.
Speaker 9: It's very open, it's very we'll talk about anything.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: When I was going through my seal Fit training, I
go down there and these guys got me a dowl
filled with sand. I go to the hotel room it's
sitting there and says care of all that never had
them late for arrival and Steve. I hear all the
time from surgeons up here or people who are speaking
in behalf of surgeons. It was really frustrating to me
because they'll tell me, no, Todd, we do the same
exact thing like they I've had surgeons say they don't
culture stem cells. That doesn't happen. We do the same
exact thing. In America. What I did for you is
your bone marrow stem cells, same thing. And I answer
this the way I can. But Steve, and I don't
think these guys, I don't even think they're lying. I
just think they don't know. But it's it is very
different in Mexico because mind you're saying is you can't
do this up here, correct, Steve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 10: So the FDA has a prohibition against expansion of stem
cells in the United States.
Speaker 2: So what what? There are some orphedic.
Speaker 10: Surgeons that use what are called Allo graphs, which in
essence are just a it's called less than manipulated, is
what the actual verbiage is by the FDA. And what
that means is they can take part of the core
and they take kind of a like a slice, and
then they can't they can't manipulate it at all. They
just have to then try to inject that. There's several
issues with that. One of them is is that they
never get to test the material because it's there's not
enough of the materials to do that right, and it
has to travel and those those cells don't like to travel.
So we are one of only three facilities in the
whole hemisphere that have an actual laboratory on site in
our facility where we have chain of custody of those
those cells all along the way. And there was a
point made earlier that I just I want to emphasize,
and that is is that I carry all seventeen specialties
on staff, so neurologists, choreologist, interocrinologist, urologists, all of them.
And we do that on purpose because we're really we're
more than a stem cell clinic that you know, advanced orthobiologics,
which is really what that is is we do a
lot of but we also do a lot of the
other stuff. Right, So, uh, there's an international standard that
people should know about and that is outside US and Canada.
Speaker 2: It's PT first. So physical therapy first.
Speaker 10: If we can't fix this issue of physical therapy stem cells. Second,
if we can't fix it with stem cells, then third
is a manual fix. Right, So Robert, we'll have the
you know, we'll have the luxury of doing kind of
all three if you will with us whatever, Yeah, so
you know, later we'll do the manual fix. It's necessary
on the knee itself as well. But people need to
understand that we're just a platform is all we are.
You know, we're a hospital regulated hospital, We're a we
are a specialty hospital inside the joya general hospital, right,
so we're held at the same standard as as any
any hospital would be. And I think you guys are
making the point that it's like walking into Seattle or
Scottsdale or Los Angeles or any major city you'd see
a major health institution that's held all you know, those
those kind of same standards.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I felt.
Speaker 1: But it's standards plus that because you put a premium
on guests, interactions and ambassadors and friendliness and cleanliness and
even aesthetics, I mean, and that matters you're hanging out
in the lobby. It's you even have magazines out there
that are that are within a day old, not like
a year old Bridger's Dutches, I don't get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you never know where you're going to see
walking down the hall.
Speaker 4: No, No, I mean in our facility.
Speaker 1: No. And some professional athletes we don't name because their
sport doesn't like them down there, but yeah, professional golfers, celebrities,
and then just running into Great Keepley become friends with
yep YEP listeners to the show viewers to the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be down there in April and maybe
bringing a friend with me. Then my friend Zach Abraham
and I see, we decided on a date.
Speaker 4: I'll get to you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna come down there in June. We're gonna come
into these shows. So if that works for the timing underneathing,
I'd love to come and give.
Speaker 4: You a hug.
Speaker 1: And let's just praise God for saving Dottie's life. I
think Steve will be the first to admit, you steward
the things God invented. You didn't invent stemselves, You just
steward him. So praise God and tell her I'm so
glad she's living and appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4: Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2: Steve.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you in April. And hey, Robert dude.
Speaker 7: Hey, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: God.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the media this way, you know, some way I'll
get to Idaho.
Speaker 1: I can tell right now. God intends for us to
have a big man hub. So that's gonna ye. Like
all right, guys, God blessed.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Thanks so much to see you.
Speaker 1: Told me gosh even six years ago that radio shows
would save lives. Radio shows I did, I would have
found it impossible to believe. Praise God for this because
it happened through the COVID era. There's plenty of people
who said no to the ventilators and Notarreem Demsevere, who
did not mask up who In fact, there's probably forty
some families who left the separate country of Washington and
moved over here rather than be forced to be injected,
and they're thriving and now renew healthcare. And praise God
that radio and podcasting can be more than radio and podcasting.
Would you try to put God's word at the center
and thank you God for working through the show to
save Dottie and others.
Speaker 4: Has nothing to do with me. This is the Todd
Hermit Show.
Speaker 1: Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and please
make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.