WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:09.839 Oh, folks, it's show tied. People say good money to 2 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:10.599 see this movie. 3 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:13.519 When they go out to a theater, they want clothed sodas, 4 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:15.960 hot popcorn, and no monsters. 5 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:19.199 In the protection booth, everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring. 6 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:42.640 Got it off, lam Leave you to the end. 7 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:47.799 This is your captain speaking. 8 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:49.439 If you look out to your left, you'll see a 9 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:51.119 beautiful view of the Grand Canyon. 10 00:00:53.000 --> 00:01:20.359 Told flow show like this. 11 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:22.280 No, I can't absolutely guarantee. 12 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:27.400 I'm us phoned us who sent that thing. 13 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:38.040 Of course, Symbias didn't come here by accident. 14 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:41.640 They were running. 15 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:48.439 From what what's his name? 16 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:48.760 Then? 17 00:01:49.879 --> 00:02:04.000 No, we have something ins longest less everything will end. 18 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:06.680 Maybe we need a disguise. 19 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:14.800 Why did you keep rocking people out? 20 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:15.800 As long as you. 21 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:26.520 Become a long way you would be. 22 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.039 This world can't survive you stay together. 23 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:37.280 But I needed. 24 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:48.360 You're bad people were always. 25 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:55.680 There comes a time in every man's life where. 26 00:02:55.560 --> 00:03:01.719 You have to make a sacrifice. I'm with you to 27 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:13.080 the end. 28 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:15.439 This is all the money that we have. 29 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:25.000 You. 30 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:25.680 You're welcome for. 31 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:35.599 I welcome to the Projection Booth. I'm your host, Mike 32 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:39.080 White on this special crossover event. I am joined by 33 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:46.479 the Culture cast Christashue wee on I am also joined 34 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:48.879 by Midnight Viewings Antonio. 35 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:50.199 Yep, now you doing? 36 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.199 Thanks for having me and Midnight Viewings Father alone. 37 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:58.319 This movie doesn't represent the Lamb diminishing returns. It represents 38 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:00.759 a of my increasing rage. 39 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:04.960 Oh my get ready to dive into the chaotic and 40 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:08.080 thrilling world of Venom The Last Dance. In this episode, 41 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:10.560 we unraveled the wild journey of Eddie Brock and his 42 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:14.879 iconic symbiote as they faced their toughest battles yet. From 43 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:19.319 intense confrontations to unexpected alliances, we'll explore the story's dark 44 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:22.519 twists and the shocking fate that awaits. Join us as 45 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:26.399 we dissect the gripping narrative, mind blowing visuals, and unforgettable 46 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:30.279 moments that to find this epic chapter. Fans, this one's 47 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:32.439 got all the bite. Don't miss it. 48 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.519 Oh Chris, where the fuck did that come from? Did 49 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:37.439 you have AI right that for you? 50 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.279 Chris? What did you think of Venom three aka Venom 51 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:43.319 The Last Dance? 52 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:47.560 I was disappointed that there wasn't enough Michael Jordan in 53 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:48.079 the movie. 54 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:50.120 Isn't that not what this is? 55 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:50.319 Like? 56 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.399 The Last Dance reference there was that Michael Jordan documentary 57 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:55.680 that came out like two years ago. That wasn't Michael 58 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:58.879 Jordan The Last Dance. I know what they're getting at 59 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.560 with the title of the movie. I found this to 60 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:05.079 be a very oddly homosexual film in a way that 61 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:07.600 the other Venom movies, at least the second and third 62 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.399 one were. The first one not so much, but definitely 63 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:12.839 the second one. The first one was like, Hey, we 64 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:14.560 have to have a love interest, and then the last 65 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.639 two have been like, the love interest is venom. That's 66 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:18.680 the point, y'all. 67 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.959 Doesn't the second one have a whole plot about them 68 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:22.600 breaking up? 69 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:23.079 Yeah? 70 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.199 And then this one is the death of the relationship, 71 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:29.519 the sacrifice of one for the other. I think I 72 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.839 probably enjoyed it more than at least Father Malone, but 73 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:34.399 he let the cat out of the mag early. I 74 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:37.240 don't know about y'all. I thought it was fun. I 75 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:39.920 actually enjoyed these Venom movies a fair amount. I think 76 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:44.639 that Tom Hardy as Venom is a weird choice that works. 77 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:47.360 I think that there's some cheats in this movie that 78 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.680 are cheats, and I think we were now seeing the 79 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:54.040 multi versus cheats, and I'm sick and fucking tired of it, 80 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:56.519 kind of like Venom says in the movie, I'm thinking 81 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.600 this multi versus shit. Yeah, me too, dude. Other than that, 82 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.680 I thought it was a perfectly fine movie. It is 83 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:04.920 a very weird. 84 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.959 Comic book movie for twenty twenty four. 85 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:11.040 But I will say, for as much as Marvel's stuff, 86 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:16.560 Marvel's MCU stuff has been very say me, which it 87 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:21.639 has for quite some time now, at least the Sony's stuff, 88 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:24.519 the Sony Spider Man stuff, as bad as most of 89 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:29.800 it has been cough the damn web cough, Morbius, at 90 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:35.160 least they're like entertaining in a very strange way. And 91 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.879 I'm not saying they're good, They're just entertaining. And who 92 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:39.879 the fuck is making a comic book movie like this 93 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:43.720 in twenty twenty four, because these have sensibilities of those 94 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.920 early two thousand Spider Man movies or early two thousand 95 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:51.240 superhero movies like those X Men movies and the Spider 96 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:55.000 Man movies and the Fantastic Four movies. Even so, I 97 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.079 think it's a weird movie. Again, I don't know what 98 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:58.959 to make of a movie where they have a dance 99 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:03.480 number with that. Again, well, it's not for everybody. I 100 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:07.279 think in a lot of ways it will be yet 101 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:11.360 another weird entry into Sony's Spider Man, whatever the hell 102 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.199 they're doing without Spider Man. But I thought it was 103 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:17.000 fun within reason, and it's only an hour and a half, 104 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:20.839 which is nice compared to every other MCU thing, which 105 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:26.240 quocks in it two hours bare minimum because because why, 106 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:27.120 I don't know. 107 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:29.120 And Antonio, how about yourself? 108 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:32.560 I felt like it was an eighties movie. I had 109 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:34.160 that kind of vibe to and I think that's what 110 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:37.040 it was, an eighties buddy movie, either on the road 111 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:40.360 or YadA YadA YadA. Here's a stupid musical number for 112 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:43.480 no reason here running into the lady from the last movie, 113 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:47.279 just randomly playing poker on one of the machines. I 114 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.240 just it was terrible. I ain't gonna lie. It's not 115 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:52.759 a great movie. I haven't liked any of them. But 116 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:55.920 if you separate yourself from it being Venom, I guess 117 00:07:55.920 --> 00:08:01.319 it's a pretty entertaining monster comedy. That's how plays. But 118 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:04.240 you know, I was nine, ten or eleven whenever when 119 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:07.560 Venom dropped, right, I remember that first issue that I 120 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.240 had with him, and it was I didn't get the 121 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:11.240 first I didn't have that three hundred ish and number 122 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:13.079 three hundred of Spider Man, but I had one or 123 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.720 two afterwards that have kidnapped Mary Jane and as the 124 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.759 first time I had seen Farlan draw Spider Man, and 125 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:21.759 I was blown away from him, like I had seen 126 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:23.920 him in other stuff at DC, and he was this 127 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.000 was his arch nemesis. He was this evil kind of character. 128 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.000 And even when they storm shadowed him in the nineties there, 129 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:32.480 like when it turned him into a good guy out 130 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:36.960 of nowhere, he still had a redemp shit arc. He's okay, 131 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:38.759 So I was this awful guy and I'm trying to 132 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:46.080 do better now movie Venom, it just is. I don't 133 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:48.080 think Spider Man three is all that great, but I 134 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:51.759 do tell for graces ven him and liked his evil 135 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.480 Peter Parker he was a jerk. It was a reason 136 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.360 for that hatred towards him, obviously. That just the thing 137 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.720 just dropping out of the sky while Peter Parker's writing 138 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:03.360 his book. It's ridiculous, but it looked cool. It looked 139 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.000 like body Horror a little bit. And this one saying 140 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:09.279 they aren't very gross, it's very courriage and Eric cg. 141 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:12.919 I don't know what noll is. They just said, Okay, 142 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:16.440 here's this force from another dimension? Is thats a crossover 143 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:19.480 with Spider Man down and then ad finally you have 144 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:22.159 the delight of having the guy from ted Lasso in 145 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:23.799 that movie and you use it for three minutes. 146 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.360 So yeah, I don't know, there's a lot of ted 147 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:31.200 Lasso in this movie. To be fair, Do you know Temples? Also? 148 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:31.480 Yeah? 149 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:32.159 You know Temples? 150 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:34.480 Yeah, that's what did. They were just like, hey, ted 151 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:36.960 Lasso's popular. We'll just put like half of the main 152 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:38.960 cast from that show in this movie, all right. 153 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:42.440 Not gonna lie. I did a day of background on it, 154 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:44.639 and I did the scene where they show up in Vegas. 155 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:46.360 I was there, but I'm not in the movie at all. 156 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.399 My buddy and Pather Malone's call match. Chef Road is 157 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:53.440 an actor in town. She you see him. He's walked 158 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:56.519 behind in a two shot there, he walks behind Tom 159 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:00.200 Hardy and Recei fens but I like Receives. I thought 160 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.720 he was gonna be the lizard. They kick him out. Yes, 161 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:03.440 he wasn't the lizard. 162 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:04.320 He was just some rando. 163 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:08.120 Tom Hardy At the point that Chris brought up Tom 164 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.799 Hardy is really good though, like he makes the movie entertaining. 165 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.200 Venom is a creature, is entertaining. The men might grow 166 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:17.720 up in a comic book with, but Tom Hardy is 167 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:20.679 just like weird. Eddy's fun. Tom Hardy reminds me of 168 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:23.519 Nicholas Cage and that anything that they're gonna be in 169 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.360 the performance is gonna be weird enough that you're gonna 170 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:29.519 at least be entertained by it and go for ninety minutes. 171 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:31.840 That's great too, That's what that eightieth movie thing came 172 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:34.279 from terms of me and Father Malone. 173 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:37.159 How about you, sir, I'm gonna just start with what 174 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.679 I liked about the movie. The xenophage, the creatures that 175 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:46.559 are hunting them when they eat somebody they like arisol 176 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:49.080 the blood out of the back of their head. That 177 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:53.600 was awesome. I like seeing Elena Ubach in anything, even 178 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.679 as misguided as their character is here in the movie. 179 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:00.519 And I guess that's about it, Tom Hardy, I'll be yes. 180 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.159 And the look of Venom himself, like, I just kept 181 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.360 wondering why this movie is called Venom because we don't 182 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.639 really get a lot of him. I kept wondering why 183 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:11.840 it wasn't just Venom most of the time and Tom 184 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:13.720 Hardy popping out every once in a while instead of 185 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.000 the reverse. There seems to be less and less of 186 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.080 Venom in these movies, rather unusual, and to hear the 187 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.159 conceit is that they can't even bond because that attracts 188 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.679 the creatures, so they've given themselves this excuse not to 189 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:30.000 fully Venom. I don't know if that's a budget constraint 190 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:32.559 or whatever. But the thing where they have Venom's head 191 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.600 talking to him, I think is great, and I know 192 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:38.000 they started that in the previous one, but their friendship 193 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:42.759 is fantastic. But to Antonio's point, this ain't Venom. 194 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:43.000 Man. 195 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:46.080 I owned an action figure of Venom that, when you 196 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.480 pushed a button said I want to eat you a breeze. 197 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:54.480 That's Venom. Also, by the way, part of the retro 198 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:57.759 fitting of Venom in the nineteen nineties was Null, the 199 00:11:57.840 --> 00:11:59.720 creator of the symbiates and the. 200 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.720 Z that's way more recent than the nineties. 201 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:07.120 That's like in the last ten years, which is fucking 202 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:11.120 wild that they introduce it here, because so much of 203 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.440 what they've done with Venom up until this point has 204 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.960 just been nineties stuff. And then they're like, oh, by 205 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:20.519 the way, here is the King of the Symbiotes, which 206 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.360 is a thing that literally, I'm not even joking. I 207 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:26.559 one it was a thing that was in the last 208 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.960 ten years because they did a big marvel for the 209 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.960 entire universe. They did an entire event and he it 210 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.440 was like Planet Venom or something to that effect, and 211 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:40.080 he was the main villain in that. But to your point, 212 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:42.919 all it does is they, oh, now Venom's a good 213 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:44.000 guy in everything. 214 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:44.960 Venom's a good guy. 215 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:48.039 There's no villain Venom anymore in anything, even in the 216 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.960 comic books now because of this character, and now they're 217 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:52.240 doing it in the movies as well. 218 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:54.879 But if he started being a villain in the nineties though, 219 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:58.639 that whole lethal Protector something like, all. 220 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:00.279 The Symbiotes are good guys. 221 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:04.120 Is my point. It's not just Venom, it's now you're saying, 222 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.399 the way they've treated it in the comic book is 223 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:08.480 the way they're treating it in the movie, where all 224 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:13.320 the Symbiotes are seemingly heroes and the villain is this 225 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:17.639 overarching character. So, oh, we just understand that the symbiotes. 226 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:21.000 Everybody loves the Symbiotes. Duh, of course we do. But 227 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:25.720 that's that oversaturation thing. They just wanted to have Captain 228 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:28.480 America's Venom and Iron Man his Venom, and Hulk is Venom, 229 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:30.399 which happened in the comic book as well. 230 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:34.120 By the way, Dad Nogay, he just looks like Japanese 231 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:36.919 is video game cut scene to look like a final 232 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:40.519 Fantasy game or something with that hair and chromatic pauses 233 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:42.799 or anything of that. Like, is that supposed to crossover 234 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:46.159 into Tom Hollins MCU universe or whatever. 235 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.600 It's quite clear this entire movie is the setup for 236 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:51.879 a new trilogy of Symbiot movies. 237 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.039 With Juno Temple as the lead. 238 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:57.000 Absolutely, that's all I was the entire time. I was like, 239 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.360 this does not feel like the third film in a trilogy. 240 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:03.720 This feels like the prologue for future adventures of the 241 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:05.799 Symbias in the Sony universe. 242 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:07.720 Yeah, so what did you think? 243 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:08.039 Bike? 244 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.279 Apparently I liked this movie a lot more than y'all did. 245 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:15.000 I seem to enjoy it quite a bit. I'm with you. 246 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:17.919 I went back and rewatched the first two, which I've 247 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.759 seen several times, mostly the first one. I'm not huge 248 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:26.759 on Carnage. My background with Venom is I was there 249 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:30.279 for the Secret Wars the first one and the Black 250 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.960 Suit and the Beyonder giving that to them, and all 251 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:36.279 these things, and then Spider Man waking up very tired 252 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.159 in the morning, doesn't know what's going on, finding out 253 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:42.720 that Symbio has life, goes to the Baxter building, gets 254 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:49.039 it removed. Eventually Venom arrives. But I think I was 255 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:52.679 out of comic books by the time even Carnage showed up. 256 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:55.360 So yeah, Venom was still a bad guy when I 257 00:14:55.919 --> 00:15:00.720 was reading comics, and Carnage was the bad guy coming 258 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:04.559 out of all that. I really had hoped for more 259 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:07.679 when it came to that witty Harrelson movie, even though 260 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:10.759 that was absolutely ridiculous, especially that they changed his hair 261 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:13.039 between the first movie and the second movie with that 262 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:15.399 amazing Ronald McDonald wig that he was wearing. 263 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:19.000 That was my biggest disappointment with that second movie. Be 264 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:23.320 like Carnage, I'm just an average guy with a really 265 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:23.840 big dick. 266 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:27.000 But it's just a hit that. But Mike brings up 267 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:28.679 an interesting point is that he was out of a 268 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:31.600 comics by tin Carnage shut up and stuff like. That's 269 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:33.240 when I was like a high school kid or whatever, 270 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:38.000 and that was a multi media event. There was no movie, 271 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:42.360 but there was a Carnage Maximum Carnage video game, there 272 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.480 was a Sega game, and there was a coin op 273 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:47.559 it ended up on. When we ended up on the cartoon, 274 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.559 it was like this big event. It was a huge thing, 275 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:53.120 and I think you just see all of this Vendom 276 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:55.840 stuff and all these Sydians and Spider Man's not there. 277 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.799 There's no reference to Spider Man anywhere, and it just, 278 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.120 I don't know, it just takes away from it's hard 279 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:05.480 for me to I know, for without Spider Man. 280 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:10.039 That was a really weird thing to have that extra 281 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:14.080 scene at the end of Venom two where Eddie suddenly 282 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:19.799 goes into the main MCU universe timeline and sees j 283 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:24.759 Jonah Jamison sees Tom Holland as Spider Man on the TV, 284 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.360 and it just it doesn't make sense unless Eddie Brock 285 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:31.639 is the same Eddie Brock as Toe for Grace. It 286 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:34.240 doesn't make sense for him to have been transported to 287 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:37.320 that universe because it's only for people who know the 288 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:41.799 identity of Spider Man, so him showing up really doesn't 289 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.679 make sense. Same thing with Electro to be a nitpicker, 290 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.519 it really should have been Vulture showing up in that universe. 291 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:50.519 But remember when Vulture showed up at the end of 292 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:53.000 More Vius. Yes, I should make any sense, and that 293 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.440 was Vulture from the MCU. Yeah, once again, and. 294 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.279 He doesn't even know what the hell he's doing there. 295 00:16:58.320 --> 00:16:59.960 But yeah, this whole thing and that I love how 296 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.519 they just undo it within the first five minutes of 297 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:07.799 Venom three. Okay, and yeah, to see who is it Sammy? No, 298 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.000 I can't remember the name of the angel the football 299 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:14.240 is Life guy A. Yes, that was so great to 300 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.519 see him show up, and I was super excited. Yeah, 301 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:19.480 but that was funny. And yet they set up so 302 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:23.440 many challenges for themselves as far as we can't go 303 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.680 back to San Francisco, we can't go to New York. 304 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:28.559 I kept thinking that they were going to finally end 305 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:30.960 up in New York. And yeah, this whole thing of 306 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:34.599 we can't be Venom because these creatures will know that 307 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:37.559 we're around, but we do become Venom just in order 308 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:41.200 to kick the plot into gear. But I don't know, 309 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.279 I still like it. It's dumb as donkey dick, as 310 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:48.240 the kids say, but I really like these movies. And 311 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.960 I even liked the Reesa fans part even though Yeah, 312 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.640 to your point, Antonio, I thought that he was maybe 313 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:58.880 gonna turn into lizard and then having chew ATel Edgya 314 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:01.440 for him here too, like, oh, is he a secret 315 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:02.119 wizard here? 316 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:05.920 It's weird how many people who have been in other 317 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:10.319 MCU things are in this movie. However, I will say 318 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:13.720 at this point it's a very short list of people 319 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:15.640 that haven't been in the MCU. 320 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:18.920 Thirty MCU movies, Like everyone's fucking been in them by now, 321 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:21.599 so of course they're gonna start crossing over. And that's 322 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.839 my point with chaiwtel eisenfor he's playing Rex Strickland, who 323 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:28.920 is like a major character now or at least for 324 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:32.000 a while with he has bonded with a symbiote and 325 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.759 is like an ass kicker, and they just spoilers everybody. 326 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:37.400 They just fucking waste him. At the end of this movie, 327 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:39.480 I was like, why did they even call him Strickland? 328 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:43.079 Yeah, yeah, that was odd because even for me not 329 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:46.720 being part of the comics culture for the last few years, 330 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.920 I still knew the name. I was like, oh, major Strickland, Okay, 331 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:50.599 I know that guy. 332 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.200 I guess I can I quit The actor crossover till 333 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:57.359 reading John Byrne comics in the eighties when I was 334 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:00.599 a kid, where you know, he just drew Superman and 335 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:06.559 mister Fantastic for everybody. Maybe that's just it. Oh well, 336 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:07.359 they just look alike. 337 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.799 But also again, like literally at this point, to your point, 338 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:15.279 father Malone, there's so many MCU movies, it's almost impossible 339 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:20.079 to not have. But the problem is obviously now because 340 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:23.279 they've opened up the multiverse box. If Recipens is in 341 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:25.759 the movie, he must be a lizard or what you 342 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:28.680 know what y'ell edgeer for, like he's fucking Mordoe. No, 343 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:34.759 they're just new characters altogether. Because initially Recipens was going 344 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:39.960 to play Clint Clint Clint Eastwood killed he was, and 345 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:43.440 that was the initial rumor. But then it turns out 346 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:46.799 it's just Andy serkis once again doing the voice. 347 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:47.160 Of the character. 348 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:50.240 No, the name of the planet is killed. 349 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:53.000 Yeah, no, so so it's so it's just Andy serkis 350 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:55.920 once again doing the voice of a of a CGI character, 351 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:57.200 just like he did in Star Wars. 352 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:01.279 It's the new Panos. Everybody, Wait, once he gets out, 353 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:03.640 things are going to be really bad in that Sony universe. 354 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:07.440 Who could have been really bad? Is the god killer 355 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:10.640 from or Love and Thunder talk about a wasted character. 356 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.200 Just Clint is his own planet. 357 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:17.119 Yeah, he really reminds me of those two characters remind 358 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:18.759 me of each other. Maybe it was the black and 359 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.319 whiteness of it all or something, but I was like, Okay, yeah, 360 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:25.720 another one of these dudes, and yeah, no resolution with him. 361 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:28.000 And I was like, oh, yeah, I don't even know 362 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:29.839 if we're going to make more of these Sony films 363 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:32.240 or if now everything we'll find the revert over to 364 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.759 Disney again. The last Deadpool that we watched was just 365 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:41.960 that big love letter to Fox's attempts with the memories 366 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:44.440 that Eddie has at the end of this film of 367 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:47.039 him and Venom together. I was like, Okay, is this 368 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:49.799 our last hurrah for this character before they go over 369 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:51.400 to the Disney side of it? 370 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:52.039 Hopefully he. 371 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:55.359 I think a lot of that responsibility falls on Sony 372 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:59.559 were joining capitalize a regular Marvilla universe with their crappy 373 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:03.519 version and other attempts they've done, like Bloodshot or whatever 374 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:05.799 it is we mean that has a lot to do. 375 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:08.119 I think it is Marvel's product up until recently has 376 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:12.319 been pretty consistently. Actually, I want Marvel's product now is 377 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:14.680 about the same it was ten years ago. It's just 378 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:17.759 these are new characters, so there's a bit more scrutiny 379 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:18.799 out of it. And the funny thing is with the 380 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:20.960 new stuff, I didn't like the stuff that most people don't. 381 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.880 I thought Sheield was great, I thought Miss Marvel was great. 382 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:28.119 That I don't like Loki kind of at the end 383 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:30.039 of the day, it's all of the taste. But I 384 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:32.720 think so many just with their crappy product. 385 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:36.319 You know, unt and Coney, you said this movie reminded 386 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:38.279 you of a movie from the eighties. This reminded me 387 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:41.960 specifically of a canon attempt at making a superhero movie 388 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:46.519 like circa nineteen eighties, having the script, particularly just a 389 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:49.440 random honchponge and let's throw this in, and oh, let's 390 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:51.960 have a dance sequence here, and oh, you know, let's 391 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:56.519 have this scene where Eddie makes a margarita with flipping 392 00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:59.359 bottles and Tequila is playing, well, speed it up action 393 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:00.559 like Benny Ill style. 394 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:01.039 I did. 395 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:02.440 This movie was confusing. 396 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.359 Yeah, it was a hodgepot. It was like they got 397 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.359 the rights to the character but didn't quite read all 398 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:10.960 the stuff, and they just picked and chose what they 399 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:13.519 thought it was gonna be. Like, I had a real 400 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:17.519 Revenge of swamp thing via to it, but just swamp 401 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:18.519