WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:03.680 So who did that? Who did that song for her? 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:05.679 It wasn't me. She didn't ask me to do the 3 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:11.119 title song. I mean, I don't know any other host 4 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:14.800 who has their own name in a song like that. 5 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:16.839 I mean I knew a woman named Amy, and she 6 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:21.079 did pure prairie leagues Amy, but that doesn't count. This 7 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:24.519 is a first and last name intro song. I have 8 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:27.600 no idea. Hey, I'm John Caldera. As you know by 9 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:32.520 hearing my friend Jimmy before me, it's Christmas time. What 10 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:37.799 does that mean for you? Sadly, nothing but b listers. Yep, 11 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:43.479 Mandy's off enjoying her holiday and you're stuck with me. 12 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:49.119 I see this as my opportunity to really scare away 13 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:55.560 her audience. I judge my own success by other people's failures, 14 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:00.320 and it's worked really well so far. All right, the 15 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:02.719 number here three or three seven, one, three, eighty five, 16 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.599 eighty five. I enjoy having conversations with you, so don't 17 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:11.400 don't be bashful about calling in. I really enjoy that 18 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:15.680 back and forth conversation. And of course, a you know, 19 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:19.480 well prepared talk show host has guests and topics and 20 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:25.599 plans every every moment. Yeah, that's not gonna happen here, 21 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:28.280 so give me a call, help me out. Three O 22 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:31.719 three seven one three eight two five five. I hope 23 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:41.959 your Christmas was spectacular. I hate Christmas. Nothing personal. It's 24 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.239 just that the older you get, the more Christmas is 25 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:50.840 about obligation than it is about, you know, relaxing and 26 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:54.760 having a good time, because there's just so much to 27 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:57.879 get done and people want you here, people want you there, 28 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:02.959 and that's that's good. It's great, it's terrific. But it's 29 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:07.040 not like, oh, I don't know, Halloween or or New 30 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:13.319 Year's or anything else. There's just not the same obligations 31 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:19.599 to go here, go there. And you know what I'm 32 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:25.199 talking about. It's a tiring, stressful time of life. It's 33 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:27.400 a time of the year that, you know, depending on 34 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:34.000 where you are as parent, child, spouse, friends, you're hauling 35 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:37.080 yourself to some other part of the country to do something, 36 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.039 or you're having people over for dinner you don't really 37 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:40.439 want to see, or you have to go over to 38 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:42.039 dinner to people you don't want to see. All this 39 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:47.840 other good stuff. But there's one thing that makes Christmas 40 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:54.360 all worthwhile, and it's kids who still get visited by 41 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:59.240 Santa Claus. Now, I've known people who who never had 42 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.280 Santa Claus. I don't know why anyone would deny a 43 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:05.960 child Santa Claus, because Santa Claus is the coolest thing. 44 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:11.360 I mean, here's a guy who who commits a crime, 45 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:20.599 breaking and entering, steals some baked goods, but leaves more 46 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.360 stuff than he goes in with. So is it really 47 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.599 a theft. No, but it's still breaking an entering, it's 48 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:29.520 still trespassed. And we love it. We just love it. 49 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:36.280 And when you have kids that still have Santa Claus, 50 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:42.319 you live vicariously from them. You remember what it was 51 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:46.800 like when you were a little one, and Santa Claus 52 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:52.240 was as real as the sunshine, and it was so 53 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:56.919 wonderfully magical. It's a shame that that adults tend to 54 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:02.719 lose that magic. And so you know what it's like 55 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:09.599 that first year your kid no longer gets visited by 56 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:17.160 Santa Claus. That heartbreak you feel because that period, that 57 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:24.720 period of Santa Claus magic really doesn't last all that long. 58 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:26.560 You know, in the first few years of life they 59 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:30.519 don't quite get it, and then they get it, and 60 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:35.879 then they lose it. Sooner and sooner, it seems and 61 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:42.319 for you parents who are in that situation, all I 62 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:51.000 can say is, suckers. If only you planned a little better, 63 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:55.839 you could have a child like mine, who, at the 64 00:04:55.879 --> 00:05:02.000 age of twenty, still has Santa Claus. You've heard me 65 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.120 talk many times about my son Chance, who has Down syndrome, 66 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:11.120 and there are lots of challenges, there's lots of complications, 67 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:18.360 there's lots of expenses, but there are these occasional wonderful 68 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:24.079 aspects when your child has Down syndrome. My son at 69 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:29.800 twenty has Santa Claus just like any six year old, 70 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:40.399 and it is friggin' awesome, absolutely spectacularly awesome. And the traditions, 71 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:47.199 the traditions just keep keep going. So we have this 72 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:50.480 really weird tradition. I have no idea how it has happened, 73 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:53.920 but it's what it does. So I have to go 74 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.360 over to my ex wife's house. Good thing, we're still 75 00:05:56.480 --> 00:06:00.639 very very close friends, and my son and I have 76 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:04.519 to do all the stuff for Santa to get ready, 77 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:08.959 you know, So we've got to we gotta put out cookies, 78 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:13.360 we've got to put out the milk, we gotta find 79 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:17.680 something for the reindeer to eat, which sometimes you know, 80 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:21.199 has to be a Scotch. I mean, there's just there's 81 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:24.560 If there's no vegetables around, you know, things get tough. 82 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:31.319 And then and this is really cool, Santa gives my 83 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:39.759 son a phone call yep, gives him a phone call 84 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:44.360 and lets him know if if he's made it to 85 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:48.240 the naughty or nice list, you know, And sadly this 86 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:51.279 year was the naughty list, so he got nothing. No, 87 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.279 I'm just joking. He wasn't on the nice list. He 88 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:58.000 was on the great list, he said. And then we 89 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.519 have to go up to the gate. That's Trew and 90 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:04.000 he and I have to sleep in the same bed 91 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:06.879 waiting for Santa Claus. 92 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:13.199 And the excitement is is palpable. All I want to 93 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:17.120 do is sleep, And all this twenty year old man 94 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:21.040 wants to do is ask me about every twenty minutes 95 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:22.839 where Santa? 96 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:30.120 Where Santa? Where Santa? So every time I'm drifted off elbow, 97 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.639 Santa Where Santa. I mean, he's so excited, it's wonderful. 98 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.439 So I think it was last year out this year. 99 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:43.319 Last year. I'm I'm there laying in bed with my 100 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:49.199 adult son, two grown men in their underwear sharing a bed. 101 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:53.600 I'm laying there going why am I doing this, and 102 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:58.639 I see him rustle, and I I keep my eyes 103 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:03.079 mostly close, but just enough so I could see, and 104 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.959 he quietly sneaks out of his side of the bed, 105 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:13.720 and then on all fours he quietly, very quietly crawls 106 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.199 along the floor so that I can't see it, and 107 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.920 then out of nowhere, his hand pops up as he 108 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:28.439 slowly quietly turns the door knob to open the door, 109 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:36.759 and he sneaks out of the room. Why because he 110 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:45.559 needed to see if Santa came, sneaks downstairs, does a 111 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:52.679 does a quick survey, and then climbs back into the room, 112 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:58.159 quietly closing the door on all fours, climbs around the 113 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.840 other side of the bed, rolls into bed so as 114 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:05.759 not to wake me and get caught. And then he's 115 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:13.159 there with a big smile on his face. Now I 116 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.840 know that you might have an adult child, maybe twenty 117 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.960 years old as well, eighteen twenty, Yeah, and they're out 118 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:26.120 crashing your car and using your credit cards and making 119 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:33.039 bad decisions on who to date mine. What's his naughtiness 120 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.879 sneaking out of the bedroom to go see if Santa 121 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:42.879 Claus came. And that's how you do Christmas Now, don't 122 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:47.360 blame me that you don't have this experience. You made 123 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:51.360 the bad decision not to have a kid with Down syndrome. 124 00:09:54.639 --> 00:10:03.039 Don't hold me responsible for your bad life choices. There 125 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:11.120 you have it. So Santa Claus rocks. Santa Claus just rocks. 126 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:17.919 Were you raised without Santa? Were you raised in one 127 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:21.320 of those as you just couldn't have Santa. I've known 128 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:26.360 some people have done that, partly because they just couldn't. 129 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.519 I want to be careful depending on the age group 130 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:38.480 listening in. Some who just couldn't make a falsehood about Santa. 131 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:43.240 And then there's some who believe that. Wait a second, 132 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:52.879 if my house has Santa, when when the kids outgrow it, 133 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.919 they'll say, look, I believed in this thing, this great 134 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:02.440 force that knew all saw all saw you when you 135 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:08.799 were sleeping. He knows when I'm awake, and he judges me. Hmm. 136 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:17.679 That awfully sounds like you know God. So so if 137 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.399 he has Santa Claus and then later loses Santa Claus, 138 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:29.759 then will he not be able to have faith in 139 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:35.600 Lord Almighty? Because you know there's a there's a thing there. Now. 140 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:40.679 The opposite argument is, I think better, which is this 141 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:49.720 Santa Claus teaches kids how to believe in things they 142 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:58.960 don't see. It is the practice for faith. It it's 143 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:03.039 a magic that kids have that there are things out 144 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:08.480 there you just can't see, you just can't prove, but 145 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:13.240 they're real. Maybe Love is one of them, maybe God 146 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:18.600 is one of them. But it's training wheels for that. 147 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.879 All right, throw that out? Where were you on this? 148 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:29.120 Three or three seven, one, three eight five eight five 149 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:33.559 seven one three eighty five eighty five? And your kids 150 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:39.440 have any of those you know, school age friends who 151 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:46.600 spread lies about Sannah? Yeah, Timmy says Sannah doesn't exist. 152 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:52.159 How do you deal with those falsehoods? Those those those 153 00:12:52.360 --> 00:13:00.120 lies that other kids tell long before you're ready to 154 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:05.840 have a good discussion about Santa. And finally, just how 155 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:13.360 manipulative are your kids? So, my wonderfully manipulative daughter, let's 156 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.000 see how to put it. Let me believe she had 157 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:23.759 Santa a lot longer than she had Santa because she 158 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:30.919 wanted the stuff. How can you not appreciate that My 159 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.639 numbers three oh three, seven one, three eighty five eighty 160 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.960 five seven one three eight five eighty five. I hope 161 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:41.159 Santa was good for you and good for your kids. 162 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:46.639 I just love I just love I love Santa, I 163 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:53.000 love kids. Everything else at Christmas, eh, I could I 164 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.559 could do without. I could do without. Oh, and are 165 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:02.240 you Christmas presents on New Year or on Christmas Eve 166 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:09.519 or on Christmas Morning? I've gotta tell you there's a 167 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.879 right answer to this, and the right answer is presence 168 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:23.799 on Christmas morning. That's that's non negotiable. Santa Clomb comes 169 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:28.159 Christmas Eve when you are asleep, and only when you're asleep. 170 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:32.919 He sees you when you're sleeping, which is a little creepy, 171 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:38.360 but he sees when you're sleeping, and therefore you've got 172 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:47.480 to prolong the agony of waiting till the morning. Maybe 173 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:53.039 you have forgotten just how angst ridden that evening is. 174 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:57.159 When you're trying to go to sleep. You're so excited, 175 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:59.960 you can't get to sleep. You want to hear noise. 176 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:06.519 Is you just you go nuts and until you pass out. 177 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.759 You don't want to give up that experience. Are any 178 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:20.159 of you truly presents on Christmas evers? There is? There 179 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:23.320 are a few things that will happen when when I 180 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:32.159 become King and ruler. One the designating designated hitter rule 181 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:36.799 will be no longer. Two, I'm not going to outlaw 182 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.919 oatmeal raisin cookies. I'm very tolerant, but I will require 183 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:45.480 that they have some sort of Hunter safety orange food 184 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.159 dye put in them so that when you see them 185 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:50.639 from across the room, you don't get all excited thinking 186 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.120 that you're going to go grab a chocolate chip cookie 187 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:54.559 until you put it in your mouth and you find 188 00:15:54.600 --> 00:16:00.080 out it's some disgusting oatmeal raisin thing. And Three, of 189 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:08.240 course I will ban Christmas presence on Christmas Eve. They 190 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:15.000 have to be Christmas Morning, absolutely have to be. Oh. Also, 191 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.759 I'm going to ban Christmas music until two days before Christmas. 192 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:23.919 Can I get an amen on that? One? Three or three? Seven, one, three, eight, five, 193 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:28.399 eight five seven, one, three, eighty five eighty five. Saw 194 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:33.919 a piece in the Denver Gazette today. Let's see if 195 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:38.480 I can pull this one up. Where did you go? 196 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:46.799 Where did you go? And it has to do with 197 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:52.039 with one of the great recreations of Colorado skiing. Do 198 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:57.360 you remember skiing? I remember skiing. I don't. I don't 199 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:01.320 ski anymore because it's too much of a hassle. It's 200 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:02.879 almost the same reason I don't like to go to 201 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:08.759 Bronco games anymore. It's just too much cost, too much hassle, 202 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:16.640 and it's just it's just not worth it. Well, I 203 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:21.480 found this this little article here. Lift tickets at three 204 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:28.160 ski resorts break. This is incredible to me. Three hundred dollars, 205 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:33.599 three hundred bucks. The holiday weekend between Christmas and New 206 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:38.079 Year's Eve upcoming, three resorts in Colorado have single day 207 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:44.039 lift tickets breaking the three hundred dollars level tickets at 208 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:51.160 Veil Mountain three hundred and twenty nine dollars when bought 209 00:17:51.279 --> 00:18:03.160 same day, really, Beaver Creek, same thing, Steamboat Ski Resort 210 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:08.160 three hundred and twenty nine dollars. Oh, but don't don't worry. 211 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:13.880 That's only the weekend single day left ticket. If if 212 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:17.720 you'd buy it in advance, it's only three hundred and 213 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:24.559 nine dollars. Are you kidding me? How much are you 214 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:33.240 willing to pay to go skiing? That's that's insane. Breckinridge 215 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:36.839 is now two hundred and ninety nine dollars, Aspend two 216 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:44.119 hundred and sixty four dollars, Keystone two hundred ninety two dollars, 217 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:48.640 Winter Park two hundred and fifty nine, Copper Mountain two 218 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:50.599 hundred and sixty four. 219 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:52.119 This is. 220 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:58.319 This is ridiculous, and this one is the one that 221 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:05.240 drives me nuts. El Dora one hundred and seventy nine dollars. Now, 222 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.519 for those of you who've never skied El Dora, how 223 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:13.160 to put it? It's a beginner's ski resort. It's in 224 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:19.559 the beautiful town in Nederland, and you you go there 225 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:23.359 because it's a new backyard, save the time. What was there? 226 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:28.960 What was their motto? For a while? Think globally, ski locally? 227 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:35.000 Great idea. Not to give my age, but I remember 228 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:42.000 when you could go up there and ski for twenty bucks. 229 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:47.160 How does anybody afford this anymore? Does anybody out there 230 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:50.680 ski anymore? Is it just a rich man sport? Is 231 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:51.720 it going to be like Polo? 232 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:52.559 Oh? 233 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.000 Yes, yes, we jetted into Veil for our ski vacation. 234 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.359 Jeoffrey and I just such a wonderful time with the 235 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:03.759 kids at our second home. Give me a call. Three 236 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:06.799 oh three, seven to one, three eight five eight five. 237 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:09.359 I'm John Caldera in for Mandy. Keep it right here. 238 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:13.880 You're on KOA one of the few songs pop songs 239 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.839 that has a seven to eight beat, not a four 240 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:25.480 to four beat. Just just so you know. On two 241 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:30.240 three four, five, six seven one two three four. There 242 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:32.640 you go. I'm John Caldera. Give me a call three 243 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.079 oh three seven to one, three eight five eight five. 244 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:41.880 Do you plan on going skiing soon? Well, if you are, 245 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.319 I'd like you to be my friend because you're wealthy. 246 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:52.200 Three different ski resorts in Colorado are now charging over 247 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:57.680 three hundred dollars for a lift ticket. I mean, for 248 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:00.240 those of us who grew up in Colorado. And I 249 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.880 know I'm sounding like a grumpy old guy. I remember 250 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:05.000 when a candy bar wers are penny and a good 251 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:08.880 hooker worth five dollars. Yeah, I remember that, But still 252 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:13.960 three hundred and twenty nine dollars to go skiing. I 253 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:18.920 would rather have the three hundred and twenty nine dollars 254 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:24.400 and not deal with the traffic, not deal with the crowds, 255 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:28.000 not deal with the cold, not deal with any of it, 256 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:31.440 cause I'm a grumpy old man. Now do you feel 257 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:33.359 the same way? How much are you willing to pay 258 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:38.839 to go skiing? I mean, Colorado has arguably the best 259 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:46.119 skiing on the planet. People come from around the world 260 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:51.759 to our backyard to drop their money, which is wonderful. 261 00:21:51.920 --> 00:22:00.799 And fine and spectacular, But why in the world, how 262 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:04.720 could any normal person enjoy this? It's the same thing 263 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:12.920 with professional sports. Going to a Broncos game is so expensive. 264 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.279 It's like we're going to have this bifurcated system of 265 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:24.039 recreation for people with money and then something else. The 266 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:29.720 other people just go sledding. How much are you willing 267 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:34.200 to pay to go skiing? Three or three? Seven? One, three, eight, 268 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:41.240 two five five? So vail Beaver Creek Steamboat now over 269 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:49.960 three hundred dollars for a single day lift ticket Breckenridge 270 00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:54.119 to ninety nine. Oh, but I love this. It's two 271 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:57.880 hundred and eighty four in advance, so you can save 272 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:04.759 yourself a whopping thirteen bucks by by doing it the 273 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:12.680 day before. Has your income grown at the same rate 274 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:20.920 of ski passes? So it looks like according to the 275 00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:25.519 work that Dedver Gazette did, Wolf Creek at one hundred 276 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:30.559 and three dollars is the best one. That's it the 277 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:34.960 best one. Oh, here we go, Here we go the state. 278 00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:39.880 The state's cheapest ski area open this weekend is Chapman 279 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:46.559 Hill Ski Area in Durango. It has two count them 280 00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:51.599 one two toe ropes and five hundred vertical feet of 281 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:57.960 groomed terrain day tickets going for sixteen bucks. That's where 282 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:01.039 you go. Let's go to the phone owns seven, one, 283 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:05.720 three eighty five. Tom, Welcome here with John Caldera. 284 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:09.799 Yeah, hey, John, I think that's cheaper than I was 285 00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:12.920 gonna say. Katara mount To State Park which used to 286 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:17.680 be a guitar ski resort down in Katara by Libeda's 287 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.799 forty dollars and they run, they run, they run a 288 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:26.400 showcat with a coach trailer. If it's actually a non 289 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:27.400 profit hill. 290 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.519 Wait, wait, wait, wait, where is this I've never. 291 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.799 Heard of it. Katara, Yeah, Guitara Mountain. 292 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:33.519 Yeah. 293 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:38.000 Oh seriously, do you know I don't mean this sarcastically? 294 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:38.960 Do you know? Libida? 295 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.160 Yeah? Uh so. 296 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:44.759 So on the way to Ala, the way to Ala Mosa, 297 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:47.759 there's a turn off to a town called Lobta and 298 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:55.960 thirteen to fifteen miles south west is uh a little 299 00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.400 town at Katara which used to be a ski resort, 300 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:07.279 and it's called a Guitar Mountain Park, a nonprofit. The 301 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.200 idea behind it is not only make affordable skiing, but 302 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.960 to bring back an economy to the UH, to the 303 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:19.799 westerno area, which is really uh uh, which we're pouring 304 00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:21.440 poor economy down there, and. 305 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:23.960 It's a poor now that so many Californians are moving 306 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:27.359 into Warf Andoak County, it's getting harder and harder to 307 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:28.920 live there. Wharf and No, by the way, is just 308 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:30.799 one of the most beautiful places in the state, in 309 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.200 a state that has nothing but beautiful places. 310 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:34.559 So yeah, let me see. 311 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.799 I'm let me see if I'm following you here, Tom So. 312 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:43.119 I go to this ski resort and basically I get 313 00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:45.680 towed up the hill behind. 314 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:50.200 A truck, behind a SnowCat on a on a trailer 315 00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:51.880 with bus seats. 316 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:58.400 Trail hotalist bus seats. So I actually a snow cat 317 00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:02.319 is basically a truck that has no tires. 318 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:05.160 But okay, sair enough. 319 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:07.880 Yeah, but so that's that's what brings me up there. 320 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:09.160 Yeah. 321 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.160 Is that sad or is it cool? 322 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:16.039 It's it's actually cool because we're talking to old school, right, 323 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.759 you know, back in the I think just, uh, this 324 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:25.200 makes a t boar look sad. You know, you don't 325 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.000 have to hold on to anything. All you gotta do 326 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.119 is sit down and enjoy the ride. 327 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.559 How wild. I had no idea that sounds like such 328 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:39.119 a kick and so how much does this cost? 329 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:43.160 Was thirty five, but they weren't have five dollars to forty. 330 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:47.680 So is it is it a decent ski resort? I 331 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:52.640 mean El Dora is a pretty decent beginner ski resort. 332 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.519 I would say, I would say, you gotta go for 333 00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:02.359 an enjoyment. It's not that said. There's a lot of 334 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:03.000 terrain there. 335 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:08.119 So so in other words, if you were trying to 336 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:10.960 convince me to go on a blind date with this girl, 337 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.079 you would say she's got a great personality. Is that 338 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:15.079 what I'm hearing? 339 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:21.480 Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, she has a great personality. There's 340 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:25.799 a lot of backcountry access down there, which which opens 341 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.759 up the terrain. But for for somebody just looking to 342 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.680 have some fun and affordable rate, it's a lot of fun. 343 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:38.400 You can. I think what's fun about it is it's 344 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:44.119 it's only like three hundred feet a vertical, but you can, 345 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.359 you can, you can. You can add it up really 346 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:50.680 quick by you beat the you beat the the sled down. 347 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:54.759 So you know, a couple of hit some runs whatever. 348 00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:59.440 Run there's the run, no run, now there's not I 349 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:00.720 want to sie. 350 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.839 Uh four four. 351 00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:08.440 Trails and you hit the trails and and then you 352 00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:12.000 jump back up, jump back on the sled and go 353 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:12.640 back up. 354 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:14.440 And how long how long does it take for the 355 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:16.119 truck to haul you back up? 356 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.880 It takes about ten minutes. I say, it's about ten 357 00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:23.079 minutes up and it takes another ten minutes to get down. 358 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:25.079 So you're already down there waiting to go back up. 359 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.440 And do they have just one one SnowCat. 360 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.079 One show cat for tugging or pulling out? 361 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:33.480 Oh? 362 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.240 How fun? How fun? All right? In the name of 363 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:36.680 it again? 364 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.640 Good Chara? So c h u R. 365 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:46.039 I forgot how something down in war Fine County. 366 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.599 Yeah, catrona mountain park if they look it up on 367 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.359 the web or if you have you know when you're 368 00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.200 when you're a little slower. Were Honestly, it's a lot 369 00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:55.440 of fun. It's a lot. 370 00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.279 Hey, thanks for sharing that. Tom. All right three three 371 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:04.039 seven one three eighty five eighty five. Ron, welcome, Ron. 372 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:05.720 You're with John Caldero. 373 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:07.400 Thanks. 374 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.799 Jen Uh. I'm old too. I don't know how old 375 00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:11.359 you are. 376 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.519 But physically i'm sixty years old. Mentally I'm I'm well 377 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:16.599 into my late nineties. 378 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:20.480 Yeah, well I'm old and you are, but I could 379 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:24.880 have got a lifetime not a one day a lifetime 380 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:30.119 they key passed for three hundred and fifty dollars. 381 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:35.359 Nah. Yeah, that's that's like I could have bought applestock 382 00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:36.319 at a buck fifty. 383 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:45.519 When was this sixties, middle sixties. That's right after they opened. 384 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:50.200 Right after they opened, My uh uncle bought a condo 385 00:29:50.319 --> 00:30:00.359 there right on the slopes per fifty thousand dollars. He 386 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:01.839 sold it for over a million. 387 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.799 All right, So let me let's see if I can 388 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.440 pull up the old computer. 389 00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:13.000 Is slow, of course, I don't know when vail started, 390 00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:16.480 but it was either the second or third year, I think, 391 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:23.519 but it was I think it was. It was expensive, 392 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.680 just either I think it was five bucks. 393 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.359 Oh, you think about you think about the guys who 394 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.920 who came up with vail and decided it was it 395 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.119 was the thing to do. All right, So let's say 396 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.279 that was nineteen what sixty five? Yeah, nineteen sixty two? 397 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:44.880 Yeah, and how much was probably three? 398 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.839 All right, sixty three? How how much was the ticket the. 399 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.759 Lifetime I think of the lifetime three hundred and fifty bucks, 400 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:53.640 three hundred. 401 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:58.000