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Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
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Speaker 2: Hi, welcome back in our number two. Oh TB.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw it right back to Taye because he mentioned.
Speaker 2: Some crutin news.
Speaker 3: There is a big decision going down today here in
the capital city.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lamar Brown, the big one that everybody's waiting for.
I mean a lot of people say this could be
the number one lineman in the country, regardless of position.
It's committing today. You high at around twelve fifteen, so
it'll probably be more like twelve forty five. But it's
a two horse race right now. LSU, Texas, A and M.
The guy's been back and forth. I mean, you remember
it was the controversy that everybody freaked out about that
he canceled his LSU trip, went to A and M.
Everybody freaked out, went back to LSU. They got the
final visit. Like it's it's been neck and neck right now,
it'll come down to the wire for sure.
Speaker 3: He is right now on on three dot com the
number seven overall player in the country regardless of position.
He plays offense and eventive line there for U High.
Great young man. Really enjoyed watching him play over the
last couple of years. And you know, you get a
little nervous whenever it's somebody that is a baton rouge guy. Right,
do they want to spend the next three four years
in the same city. And you get real nervous when
it's a U High player just because they've gone to
school on LSU's campus.
Speaker 2: Basically their entire life.
Speaker 3: And he is one of the best players, as we said,
top ten player regardless of position. It would be a
massive gift for LSU here in this next recruiting class.
Speaker 2: And I know that. I think Texas and Miami are
the other teams.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll have a place at the table, but
it is Texas, A and m and LSU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to.
Speaker 5: Thinking about just recruiting in general, especially when you're recruiting
a hometown guy. First of all, you got to tell you,
I hope Betner's treated well up to this point in
his life, and he wants to stay about four more years.
But it's so interesting just in the in our world.
It's like, what conversations are going on behind like closed
doors on all these recruits, And we're not just talking
about the specific one, but behind all closed doors with
all these other schools, Like is their offers being thrown out?
How like what kind of money gets talked? Is there's
agents involved. I'm just I'm so curious about how all
that plays out in the recruiting of Heights. I know
it does when you're going from college to college because
they have a little bit more support once they're in college,
I think as far as like negotiating and talking about
the money part of things. But when you're talking about
coaches sitting in a sixteen seventeen year old's living room,
what kind of conversations are happening?
Speaker 3: What kind of conversations Like this is more of an
old school conversation, not the nil and like you can
go find like rivals, who's now part of on three?
Like they have nil value and the evaluation for a
Lamar Brown. But I'm talking about like just old school
conversations about later in life. And I know those don't
happen as much, but for me, it was an easier
sale to come to LSU because coach Saban's like, Hey,
if you want to be set up for the rest
of your life, here's how it happens. You're from Louisiana,
you go to LSU, you play well, you play in
the league for a little bit, and you come back
and Louisiana takes care of you. That was the sale.
And it's been very true in my life. You came
from out of state, what was maybe the main talk
because that was it. That was the main talk to me,
to my parents, whoever, that was it for somebody coming
out of state.
Speaker 2: What was like the main point?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was so just at that stage of my life.
Speaker 2: I was so just like what's right in front of me? Mindset?
Speaker 5: And yeah, I've told the story so many times about
like I grew up a Baylor fan. I grew up
like in the old at my young days, the old
Southwestern Conference fan, and then of course the Big Twelve.
And then when I finally when I was getting recruited
in high school, when my eyes were open to the SEC,
I first went to a first SEC game ever was
Tennessee at Alabama on a recruiting trip. Not even it
wasn't my recruiting trip. It was a friend of mine
that was a year older. It was his recruiting trip,
and I was like, I looked around, like with tailgate
in the stadium, I'm like looking around, like, what the
hell is this like?
Speaker 2: And that's when I fell in love with the SEC.
Speaker 5: So I knew I wanted to go to a school
in the SEC, but I was just so my the
recruiting pitch was for me.
Speaker 2: It was pretty easy.
Speaker 5: It was like, LSU, it's in the SEC. I know
I want to go there. At the time when I
was getting recruited, Rohann Davey was out there just spinning it,
throwing it all over there, and I was like, all right, well,
this is the the guy that's recruiting me. Jimbo Fisher
is a guy that created that offense and it's running
that offense, play calling that. Like, so the opportunity was there.
They showed a lot of interest in me. So and
you want to go to a place where you were wanted,
of course, and they did. I mean that that was
just a total old school recruiting style back then. It's
like you gotta gotta be you gotta make the players
like you. You gotta make them feel wanted, you got
to make them feel important, You got to do all
the things right. But it wasn't ever like, Man, I'm
gonna go there and I'm gonna like your story. I mean,
that's a great recruiting tactic for you from Louisiana. Playing
in Louisiana, come back your set for life. That was
never like part of my mindset. I never even had
the mindset. When I was in high school, I'm like, oh,
I can go play at the next level. Right when
I got to college, I went like, oh, I can
go play at the next level. It was just like
what's directly in front of me. But LSU is just
the place that I went and visited and I knew
I wanted to play in sec fell in love with it.
Speaker 6: And.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I'll just keep living for
the moment. Look at you. Yeah, me, I I don't
like the plane ahead. I think we know, yeah, we
know the like Sean Foster, Yeah right.
Speaker 3: The U portion of it is interesting just just because
like I I understand, like I get it. Like that
was one of my fears sending my children to you
high Like, man, are they gonna like want to go
somewhere else just because like that, I've gone here for
twelve straight years. Spread their wings, right, do I want
to go somewhere different? I mean they're they're school literally,
like it's literally on campus, right, So.
Speaker 2: That's always like a worry there. But you said they
get to go get food at the union. Yeah they do,
and that's part of what they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool, and but that's always like one of
the things that you worry about. But this is a
player that you've got a real opportunity at, You've got
a real shot at. And look, no matter what happens today,
I don't think that either school stops recruiting Labar Brown.
That's just going to continue to happen A and m LSU,
both those schools, and actually they would be doing themselves
so disservice if they did not continue to recruit him
unless he's just like I completely totally want to shut
it down. I don't want to field calls because I'm
worried about the season.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 3: But I'll just say this, and I'm biased, no doubt
about it. Purple and gold glasses here. I've said it once,
I've said it a million times, and I'll let's go
a million in one. Matt coming from Texas, had Texas, Baylor,
Texas Tech, Houston, A and m whatever. You know, all right,
If this was a Mississippi conversation, you've got Mississippi State and.
Speaker 2: You've got Old miss all right.
Speaker 3: If this was a Georgia conversation, even Georgia Tech won
a national championship in the nineties, right. If this was
an Alabama conversation, well you've got Auburn, You've got Alabama.
If you are talking in the state of Florida, you
got Miami, you got Florida, you got Florida State. I
think what makes Louisiana unique, And this is not a
shot at Louisiana Tech or ULL or any o.
Speaker 2: They're good programs, but we all know what it is.
Speaker 3: From top to bottom, east to west, LSU is king
And if you have the opportunity to be from Louisiana
and go to LSU, it is a true forty year decision,
not a four year decision, because it doesn't matter where
you're at in the state.
Speaker 2: Right, no place hates LSU.
Speaker 3: Like if you're in Texas and you're in Austin hate
a m if you're in Auburn, Alabama, they hate Alma.
If you're in Touch Looser, they hate Auburn, right, and
those surrounding areas. Right, LSU is different in that way
to the success that they've had and the advantages that
they have and the things they can give you after life.
Speaker 5: And that's what makes any on the football field like
so great, such great sports fans and such also harsh
sports fans as well, because they know ball, they love ball,
they're passionate about it. We all are, like everybody in Louisiana,
passionate about the Tigers and the Saints or whoever we
cheer for in Louisiana. And if you are good to them,
they're good to you. And probably a little bit of
a vice versa. But I mean, it's but that's what
makes it so great. That's why I want to That's
why people want to go here. And I would, and
I would say to this kid and any other kid,
like take your time in the process, enjoy their recruitment,
like the whole thing, make your visits, go see other places.
But like at the end of the day, when you
decide to make a commitment, and this is like, well
my dad preached with me and what I would, you know,
hope to preach to my kids if if they ever
got the opportunit.
Speaker 2: It's like, we're gonna visit. We're gonna keep an open mind.
Speaker 5: We're going to see other places, see what other people say,
have to offer, blah blah blah. Like once we make
a commitment, that's our commitment, Like we shut it down.
Like if we commit to somebody and promise them that
we're gonna come there unless they do something that they
said they weren't gonna do, then we're so Like when
I was getting recruited, they the first time I met
with him, when they offered me a scholarship, we're taking
two quarterbacks this year.
Speaker 2: We have to have two. We're taking two. I said, great,
I said, I'll be your first to commit. Yea, So
I did. And then a month later Robert Lane committed. Whoa,
what's up? Robert Lane? Neville Ye shout out to the Monroe.
Speaker 5: Ended up playing tight end full back it all miss
miss Yeah, good dude.
Speaker 2: I've told you. I've told you my Robert Lane story.
Speaker 5: No in case this story okay, so, but I.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of you for finishing your story. By the way,
thank you. See squirrels a lot. I'm gonna finish this one.
Speaker 5: But but I committed to him, so it's like and
he's great, and I knew upfront. Two quarterbacks, blah blah blah.
The only waiver I ever did was the week leading
up the signing day. They were still even though they
had both of us committed, they were still hard recruiting JaMarcus.
And I was like, well, you got too committed. You
said you were taken too. You're not pulling a scholarship
for me or Robert, Like you can't, Like they're not
going to say sorry, you don't get it anymore because
we committed to him, right. It just didn't work that way.
It's a really bad impression. It was pretty public that
these kids are committed, and I was like, so like like,
what's up? And then so I almost ended up documentting
like the night before, so Robert lane d did decommit.
Speaker 2: He did and almost de committed the night before just
because of that.
Speaker 5: So like if they if the college does something that
they said they weren't going to do, right, then yeah, okay,
the commitment, you can maybe go back on that at
that point.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we almost switched over to A and M.
Speaker 5: I know, Wandra, Sorry, So so FRANCHIONI was so FRANCHIONI
was a coach at Question Alabama.
Speaker 2: We did not know this before we hired him.
Speaker 5: I was an A and M fan growing up. Okay,
FRANCHIONI what he was? So FRANCHIONI was the first, like big,
big school to offer me a scholarship, Like he offered
me a scholarship, like on the field of their spring game,
like in the middle of like in front of all
the fans. Like it was kind of a cool, kind
of a cool story. But he leaves that job to
go to Texas A and M job And this is
like the week before signing day or something like that.
He's on his like opening press conference taking the job
at A and M. And I'm watching the press conference
at home and uh, press conference is over, and like
a minute or two later, my phone's ringing it to
him and he's like, hey, dude, do you want to
come be my quarterback?
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. And I was like, no, I'm sorry,
I'm committed.
Speaker 5: But then the whole thing where they kept recruiting JaMarcus
was happening. Yeah, so I was like all right, Maybe
I do want to go over there.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 5: I remember I talked to Jimbo before for like two
hours the night before Saturday.
Speaker 2: I mean, talk to Jimbo. You got any words? Jimbo
can get in in two hours all the words? You know?
How many every word? Seventeen year old me got him zero?
Probably not a lot zero.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. You would have been out there I
yelled practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah what look?
Speaker 5: And if I if it didn't work out there at quarterback,
I could have been a yell leader.
Speaker 2: That's Taylor.
Speaker 7: We have too many yell leaders.
Speaker 4: He moved like one person in this building. But they keep,
they keep.
Speaker 2: Taylor, You're not You're not the most.
Speaker 4: I'm up there.
Speaker 2: You see all those push ups they do. Though you're
not the most.
Speaker 4: At least six people I could rip right now that
are more yell leader at least.
Speaker 2: Let's see in this place.
Speaker 4: Scott Mooso right there off the bat.
Speaker 7: I don't think Moose.
Speaker 2: I could see. I could see I could see Moose.
If it like LSU baseball need a yell leader, he'd
be that number. Same thing for Hunt.
Speaker 7: Hunt is a yell leader. He went to yell practice.
Speaker 3: That's very true. A couple of things before we take
a break. Georgia Greek says, wrong day for Hester to
wear the A and M hat. It's actually a Leonora
Seller's hat because he kept beating flynnon in n Cuba.
Or it's a Mississippi State hat because I want him
to know who Jeff Lebby is.
Speaker 2: Good coach. You know, swag could be.
Speaker 3: A lot of different things, George, Although I appreciate the comment,
good call Robert Lane's story. I've told this on air before,
and statute of limitations is over. I didn't tell it
for like twenty years. Uh So, in the recruiting process,
you get you know, you get head coaches numbers, right,
and like you say, in your phone because like if
the head coach calls, you wanted to you know, answer
or whatever. It's not like it is today, Like it yeah,
is what it is? Like you had like four or
five head coaches in your phone. That's the only way
you can get in contact with him. There's no there
was no text messages, there was no social media. So
my buddies get my phone one time and I don't
even think anything of it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are they doing over there? Playing snake.
Speaker 3: And so later on in the night, you know, we're
high school kids doing stupid things probably, but they're like, hey,
let's do it, let's do it, let's do it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, let's do it. What are we doing? Yeah, okay, sure.
Speaker 3: So my buddy he gets he gets his phone based
off a number he had already gotten out of my phone,
and he calls it and this is the day after
signing day your class.
Speaker 2: And this man called coach Saban.
Speaker 3: Oh, and he said, Hey, this is blah blah blah
from this blah blah blah paper or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm and I still like, I don't know who's on
the phone, but I know something's going down, and I'm panicking.
Speaker 3: He's like, I just want to get a quote on
Robert Lane coming to LSU and how that's going to
work out and maybe the future for Robert Lane. And
I wasn't listening, like it wasn't a speakerphone back then.
But he they tell me that. He says, don't you
know Robert Lane didn't sign here, he signed with Old Miss.
And my buddy said, yeah, that's because this is a
prink call, you.
Speaker 4: Idiot, prank callin Saban to the lead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and y'all, I mean, my palms were sweat. He's
still thinking about that. And that was twenty one years,
twenty two years speaker phone, speaker phone, So I didn't
hear what he said, but they he my buddy said.
All he said was, don't you know he signed with
old miss in that way? He's like, yeah, it's a
it's a prink call, you idiot. Do y'all want to
know this is really this is really going behind the
scenes there? Uh? Do y'all want to know where that
guy ended up playing college football and who he ended
up playing college football for? Absolutely Alabama and Nick Saban.
Speaker 2: I'm assumeing he never told probably not, probably not, probably
not I would idiot, y'all don't understand Like I was, like,
I was not like I had coach Saban's number, but
I was by no means like guaranteed to go to
l s U at that point, right, And.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what was it Star six seven or Star six?
What'd you push Star six? But like said, hyd your number?
I mean I'm panicking, like what if it didn't work?
What if it came through? Like did you just ruin
my future?
Speaker 5: Because that is my future, How do we how much
do we trust Star sixty seven?
Speaker 4: I actually never tried it.
Speaker 2: I think second day it was big.
Speaker 5: So Actually I was in a conversation last week where
people still use it.
Speaker 2: Teap House said I'd rather be called nine to one
one than Saban.
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all have to understand, like, Hey, I'm gonna prank
call Flyn right now, buddy, my buddy like he was.
He was just that was him, like wasn't wasn't gonna panic.
It didn't matter who it was. But for about three
months I was paying that coach. Saban knew that it was,
you know me who he got the number from.
Speaker 4: Anytime he gets on to your practice, You're like, damn.
Speaker 2: Are you doing it right now? I'm trying Star six seven.
She gotta get your Nobody knows numbers by heart.
Speaker 8: I know.
Speaker 7: I'm like going back and forth.
Speaker 2: Don't say it on the mic. I thought she was
because I was about that's not it.
Speaker 7: That would be really funny if I did tell your
number on air on accident. Okay, I'm Star six seventy.
Speaker 2: Check this out, man, does it say?
Speaker 7: Unknown?
Speaker 2: Says no? Caller? ID ID crazy?
Speaker 7: Because even if I have Star six seven. Wild still works.
Speaker 2: But I bet a I knows.
Speaker 7: Oh, like ask a I who's calling me right now?
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe just Robert Lane China knows. China turned into
a full back and never really panned out.
Speaker 5: I remember hanging out with him at Reggie's back in
the day. He came in when they had an off ak.
We were, we were out.
Speaker 2: There in that back corner, you know, Jason Spaedoni there too,
was his shirt off, absolutely sweat to own back pocket.
Called that soldier rag That's what what was your boy?
That's what he called it, which one. Ricky Clawson, that's
what he called it, his soldier Ragg. You know that
you weren't. I wasn't in school with him. One of
my visits. I was with Maxwell and Bull. I think
we're giving all the names today.
Speaker 7: It's exposing everything. It's over twenty something years statute of limitations.
Speaker 2: And one of those names. I just gave us a nickname.
Nobody knows. It's fine, right.
Speaker 4: Rick Clawson though, man like when he left with the
Tennessee like everybody thought he was gonna be the guy.
And then eric Anane said something to say about up.
Speaker 2: Rick Claus and Damon come in and hit us on
Monday night and five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was was that less his first game, No,
first year, first game, That's right, that was the one
that got moved because of the well they both got
moved too.
Speaker 2: Damn good to lose that game. I know, up twenty
one and nothing at halftime they couldn't stop Joe and die.
What happened? How do we lose? No idea? We threw?
Speaker 3: So we threw a throwback screen to me and it
was why it was going to be. I could have
done the like Ikey shuffle into the end zone and
one of our tight ends.
Speaker 2: I want to put him on blast. He missed the block,
and so jam put everybody else on blasts.
Speaker 3: Well that's different than when you miss a play. So
JaMarcus had to throw it at my feet and like,
I remember being mad at Jamar, like what do you do?
Speaker 2: What you thought?
Speaker 3: He's like, because you would have got crushed for a
five yard loss.
Speaker 2: He said it in a different way. There was a
couple more choice words because I got choice words too. Yeah,
that was an overtime, I believe, maybe not maybe like
final drive or some There was like a fourth and
one on the goal that they had they this is
a prank call you idiot.
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Speaker 1: Blocked in on L s U Football twenty four to seven.
You're listening to off the Bench set the same.
Speaker 3: Who is the biggest L s U recruit that L
s U missed on that everybody thought was going to
be just doomsday situation and the player didn't turn out
to really be anything.
Speaker 4: He was a decent college player, Joe McKnight. Though people
had to melt down and success.
Speaker 3: I wasn't like I wouldn't hear like I was. I
was playing. Yeah, we're in the NFL, right.
Speaker 2: How much college ball do you watch when you're playing?
Not a lot. I didn't watch. I don't think I
watched only L s U. And I was not like
locked locked in like I am now. I mean, I
had the game on, but like you know, I didn't
know the depth chart, if that's what you're asking.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: I knew my buddies who were still on the team,
you know, like Shep and and Perry and T Bob
and people like.
Speaker 4: That I watch l S used him his freshman year
was those seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like I do remember. I do remember that that
fallout though, did we Oh he would have been here
when we were here?
Speaker 4: Was what was happening?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was aast year. I felt like we
were in the NFL already, but I guess not.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, Like I don't remember that being
such a I remember it being a huge deal, like
people were like, oh my god, he's got this color shirt.
Speaker 5: We just won the national championship and we were training
for combines and like celebrating.
Speaker 2: We weren't locked into signing day. I don't know. That
does feel like a big one, Robert Lane feels like
a big one, even though maybe maybe that wasn't because
JaMarcus and you both signed, so l GU fans probably
weren't like completely torn up because you got two quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: I wonder if at the time they like told Robert, like, hey,
if JaMarcus signs, you're out type deal, or they just
didn't they felt disrespected because I kept growing.
Speaker 3: John David Booty, my high school quarterback, not going to
l s U. And remember John David actually graduated high
school early and went to USC. He was my class,
but we had all taken it, like all of us
took summer school to get ahead, and so he had
enough credit out right, Yeah he did.
Speaker 2: He went two rows. I was just thinking, I went
to work done. I've got Well.
Speaker 3: If we had that list of like guys that didn't
like ed Reed to be regulating, I'm talking about like
players that got so built up and you're like, oh
my gosh, man, unless you missing this guy, this guy's
going to terrorize l s U for.
Speaker 5: Multiple isn't there a kid that of course, Devanta Smith,
but wasn't there another kid from Amy that went to
bandage Ishmael Sopsu.
Speaker 2: He was Oh my god.
Speaker 4: However, though.
Speaker 2: There were forgot, there were some.
Speaker 4: People who had issues with him when he was in
high school though.
Speaker 2: But I covered there.
Speaker 3: I covered their state championship game for CST, and oh
my gosh, Yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 2: That's a good poll. Then you oh that little big kid.
You think about it, it feels like a huge deal.
Speaker 4: Twenty fourteen, everybody was it was the underarmmer All American Game,
and everybody's like, Elo, she was going five for five,
Remember five for five on these re crew. Oh yeah, yeah,
you got two for five. And who were the five?
Everybody freaked out? The two you got, Leonard Fournette and
Jamal Adams. The three you missed the one Speedy Noil,
Tony Brown, Gerald Willis. You got the two best to
buy fall.
Speaker 2: The only reason I know one of those humans is
because his name is Speedy, right.
Speaker 4: I don't even know that he played at an didn't
Tony Brown went to Alabama, he was a corner, didn't
really do anything. And then Gerald Willis bounced around on
like five different teams.
Speaker 3: Gunner Kill the guy that did not have the chest
to play at LSU, according to coach Miles.
Speaker 2: Didn't have the chest. What about his gate? How was that?
I don't know, but I know about it.
Speaker 5: Someone of the chat saying, Eddie Lacy landon Con, I
feel like those guys kind of panned a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're not talking about guys that that panned out,
like Eddie Lacy played a long time in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Lane and Collins played a long time in the NFL. Like,
not those guys we're talking I'm talking about like guys
that like, oh, did not turn into the players. Berlin, Yeah,
I mean Brockett.
Speaker 3: Like Brock played in the NFL, so it's hard to
say like he didn't turn into anything. He won an
Orange Bowl as the starting quarterback in Miami. But I
do understand, like to what the height of like Brock,
Berlin has a day in shree boards brought Berlin day.
He was a Gatorade National Player of the Year, USA
Today Player of the Year. That was, like I had
no idea I was. I was a freshman, Like I
had no idea like recruiting or like like not going.
Speaker 5: To l It was the greatest football player to ever play.
A lot of people I thought in high school, I
thought he was better than Troy.
Speaker 2: A lot of people like You're not the only person
I've heard say that. I mean, he was so good.
Speaker 3: But I didn't understand a guy like that not going
to LSU at the time, Like I just didn't know
he's going to Florida Steve Spurry or the football.
Speaker 2: Okay, it makes sense whatever. Yeah, I'm sure that one
did hurt and there was a look there was my
high school.
Speaker 3: My high school has had a lot of players that
did not go to l s U. You had, you know,
Abram and Josh Boody went to l s U. Certainly
some peaks and valleys there on the field and from
the fan base. Now, they had some great times. I
mean Josh was was all SEC one year. Abram certainly
had big moments in an l s U uniform. But
like you had, like there was a long period of
time where guys from my high school did not work
out at LSU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which actually a lot.
Speaker 5: Which evangel players had ended up having a good NFL career.
Speaker 2: Besides yourself. It's a great question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, I know, I know I'm missing somebody. I
think there's some because I think there's somebody now that
plays for the Ravens for.
Speaker 2: A long time. In the chat, great question. I'm gonna
look at up. While you're talking.
Speaker 5: In the chat, people are bringing up Dylan Moses as well,
but injuries kind of were a big big issue there,
don't know. It's a great dude though, Yeah, super great guy.
Speaker 2: He actually is training people at elite. Yeah, I know
over there with its week. Nice let's go remember great
game before. Wish him nothing but success. His brother now
playing for l s U.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna look this up because Trent Taylor
Evangel guy was still like bouncing sack and forth. Yeah,
the attack and then for the forty nine ers for
a while, Trent Taylor shout.
Speaker 2: Out, So Evangels a bunch of system players. Over there's
car Darius Washington is the player from evangel that plays
corner for the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Uh he is in his fourth season. That's such somebody else,
that's a great question. I need to do some research
on that.
Speaker 2: Used some research, but uh, yes, we were system players, absolutely, dude.
We were throwing the football before anybody else did. Now
I'm not saying like we didn't have talent.
Speaker 3: We obviously did, but we were five wide when y'all
were in the wing team.
Speaker 5: Not only were all five wide, Brock was at least
seven yards back from the center. Oh, it was taking
a five to seven step drop from there. He was
throwing the ball from ten to twelve yards behind the line.
Speaker 2: Of It was like a nine yard shotgun.
Speaker 3: Because we didn't have the offensive line to be able
to block, and we had quarterbacks that could make every throw,
so it just made sense. But we also had coaches
that were like former college coordinators, like in places like
Uel Monroe and Losing a tech but still like college coordinators,
coaching high school and being our coordinators then like our
receivers coach my junior year was once the offensive coordinator
Louisian Tech the receivers coach. So you paired that together
with the system and coaches.
Speaker 5: I saw firsthand in Tyler, Texas. We went my family
went to watch in the Tyler Rose Bowl, John Tyler
play Evangelis. This is nineteen ninety nine or two thousand,
I can't remember, but this is John Tyler who had
won the Texas five A state championship like five times
in the nineties. It's like that that famous high school
clip of Plano East versus John Tyler, like the good gosh,
how Mine Friday and like the guy that melts down
because I can throw up. We should throw that clip
on today during the show. But so they're but they're playing.
They The only pass that John Tyler ever did was
like a three step dump to the tight end, like
the dump route, like you're throwing it straight to the
tight end before he gets to the linebackers.
Speaker 2: That's the only pass they ever did. And so they
running like scout.
Speaker 5: They were in wide toss like the quarterback will turning
like underhand spiral, toss it out wide to the They
would play like nine running backs in a game.
Speaker 2: Say, oh, they had so many athletes. They were just fast.
Speaker 5: They beat everybody of the edge, and they won so
many state championships. So can you imagine that's your offense?
That's what you know. And then Evangel comes in, Yeah,
throwing the ball. It's like the scene for.
Speaker 2: Remember the Titans when they play that one shotgun team.
It was like, what do we do?
Speaker 5: We've never seen this before, we don't even know, didn't
even know this existed. We destroyed them. He threw for
over three hundred yards in the first half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we ran the same system that we ran in
San Diego and North Like we ran a West Coast
kind of number system.
Speaker 2: Those principles though in high school when literally.
Speaker 3: Nobody was doing that, and you know, eventually, once people
started to catch up, it was more difficult. But then
Evangel got better players and then they kind of could
still compete, and then we kind of changed it up
my junior and senior year. We went to more of
a pro style offense where we were throwing the football,
but we did some under the center stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Evangel was dominant because.
Speaker 3: They had really good quarterbacks, really good coaches, and a
really good scheme and in the beginning of the process.
Speaker 5: Kobe Reynolds and the chat says, wrong, he was eleven
yards deep.
Speaker 2: He might have been eleven. I mean, he might be right.
It was aunt.
Speaker 3: Our center. Let's see, was that Craig Desta I think
was his name. You have to snap like this, No, yeah,
it was. It was like a deep snap. I was
literally about to say that. It was pretty much like
he was throwing it back there to the punter because
the punters at fifteen, you got the bomb squad in
front of you, hold long enough until Brock can throw
this ten yard out route, which is really about a
twenty three yard I.
Speaker 5: Can just see a high school like seventy five year
old ref out there. The first game he sees it
in Texas, Louisiana comes in. It's just like that scene
we talked about yesterday from semi pro first play penalty, no, no,
two penalties.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what this says.
Speaker 5: You can't line up that deep in the offense just
like that, Like, what the hell is going on? There
has to be something illegal happening with this offense. Can
you imagine you've been reffing, yeah games where there's one
or two passes a game, and that comes to town
and comes forty five. There's got to be a rule
that outlaws this.
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Speaker 1: From players to Legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown l s
U football like only champions can.
Speaker 2: Have a nine.
Speaker 7: I believe the first night.
Speaker 6: You can't play well, you know you got a way
that you're making feel I can do what I can do.
Speaker 2: I've done a little research True Sport evangel.
Speaker 3: We got a couple of active players are Darius Washington
safety Baltimore Ravens, Jered Bernard Converse from the Elsie Tiger
active for the Jets, Elijah Chapman acting for the Giants,
Miles Cole active for the Jags.
Speaker 2: Trent Taylor still active. Didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Trent uh Mike Baskerville another LSU Tiger,
Bark Berlin played two seasons. Conte Dawson played seven seasons.
I played six, not the long list. I thought I
was gonna find Joe McKnight did go to Evangel speaking
of Joem and I here in Katrina for like three games,
really yeah, like three games.
Speaker 2: I didnt went back to New Orleans? Did he claim him? No?
I played for John Curtis? Was that? Was there a
lot of people that played for other teams during that time?
I don't, I don't, I don't know I was here.
I wouldn't worried about it. Angel, that's a good point.
Speaker 3: We were worried about having some of my roommate's family
members having to stay with us because they didn't have
anywhere to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wild time.
Speaker 5: I remember practicing on the practice field, and Miles and
all the coaches like saying, hey, once we go on
the practice field, like we know, there's a lot happening.
Speaker 2: This is crazy situation.
Speaker 5: Like once we crossed those white lines, focus on practice
and don't look up. Because you looked up there was
like twenty black Hawk helicopters apparently metavas going to the
I mean there was something. There was stuff all over
our head the whole time that I just don't look up.
Let's just two hours and after that, we're going to
go bring supplies of the p MAC. We're gonna go
do all the things that we need to do to
help and stay safe protected. But don't look up. It
was a huh you looked up, didn't you. Oh, no
doubt for sure. That's how you remember how many.
Speaker 2: Were up there.
Speaker 3: You remember that practice the night like basically the hurricane
was hitting and we were all back home and we
had to come back home.
Speaker 2: You know, it was like zombie apocalypse. I was the
only person going south on I forty nine, and I
got stopped like ten times, like sir, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Play Elasua football coach that we got you back? And
I got ten times. But then we got back and
it's like all right, we got to practice. We're in
the indoor and you could just hear the win and
things just like slamming into the indoor and we're sitting there.
You remember we had the like those generator lights that
were brought into the indoor because the power was out.
Speaker 2: Kind a wild time to be practicing football. Get ready
for a football game? Yeah, during an actual hurricane, actual
like real life, Like football doesn't matter at that point, right,
but like real life stuff happening directly across the street,
real life like tragedies, heartbreak.
Speaker 5: And just like all that stuff happening. And you know
at the time, you're like football doesn't matter, like with
all this stuff's going on. Like I remember after we
won that first game at Arizona State, and as trivial
as sports were at that time, it was how many
people did we like comes to us or hear from
They were like, man and a time where everything was disastrous.
You know, we lost everything we have, we lost people
or whatever it is. It's like at least y'all, I
got to put a smile on my face for a
little while.
Speaker 2: Just for that which was you know, power sport.
Speaker 3: Though we uh we made it interesting in Tempe, Arizona
that day as well.
Speaker 5: What a throw one of the most underappreciated throws, Marcus
Rolling left slinging that thing. Yep, glad they didn't review
it ain't have review. Thank god.
Speaker 2: It was closed. Maybe the angles would have been off,
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Speaker 6: Bloody will suggest fris on his well, Gass, I don't
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Speaker 2: I was trying to look up.
Speaker 3: How much l s U used eleven personnel last year,
because now that you're a certified ball no or you
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to look it up for us.
Speaker 5: For Hester andized age, we were middle school, like you know,
boys are starting like girls, girls starting like boys and
like you're learning how to talk to girls. Still don't know,
but you know the at this time the song came
out and girls were like actually called boy scrub this song. Yeah,
they would actually call boy scrubs after the.
Speaker 7: Call boy scrubs. Do you if they're being a scrub?
Speaker 2: Yeah, scrub, you're a swag.
Speaker 4: We were we were growing up.
Speaker 2: Rubber.
Speaker 7: That could be a new dating app that you come
up with.
Speaker 4: High school. Late high school was boy. That's what the
that's what they use that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one hits harder, No.
Speaker 4: Doubts for sure, but that's that's that's one that our
school used, like probably probably before we graduated. I guess
like late high school.
Speaker 7: Or bomb bomb is a good one. Boom your boom
don't be a bomb bro?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob, I don't want to miss it. I feel
like we're missing like a key one here. Maybe not.
Speaker 7: Yeah, boy swagger scrub would be a good segment idea to.
Speaker 2: Think, So did Jeff did Jeff let me create something? Yep?
Speaker 4: Which then would you be on?
Speaker 2: What week?
Speaker 4: Would Jeff actually be?
Speaker 5: One question idea for next week just pop in my brain.
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Speaker 7: I have a great idea, guys, Let's torture everybody. Let's
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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin would do it and have fun with it.
Speaker 4: If you need something for uh, for Mark Stoops, I
can point you to t bob Abers Twitter. There's probably
a handful on there.
Speaker 2: Mark Oops, I mean Stoops. Would you read this please?
We will not have any slander for Mark Stoops here anymore. Okay,
now you're off Kentucky. You're on Missouri this year. Don't
try to defend Missouri this year.
Speaker 3: Missouri's I've been on Missouri in the past, Kentucky certainly
more than any other team I have.
Speaker 2: I have yet to decide. I think who my diamond
in the rough? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, who's your dark horse?
Speaker 2: Heit sec Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't be South Carolina anymore.
Speaker 3: It cannot be Vandy' is the first one that popped
into my brain. Should we ride with Bandy?
Speaker 6: Not?
Speaker 7: If I have anything to do with it.
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