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Speaker 1: Greetings, boils and ghoules.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to That's Not Metal. This is an addition of

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Hyperblasts where we come at you every Friday letting you

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know everything that's been going on news wise, release wise

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in the world of rock and metal here on That's

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Not Metal. But today, I guess this episode's going out

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on Halloween, so I guess we're going to try and

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make it a bit of an extra spooky one. We

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have got a whole load of news, not actually a

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lot of new music to talk about, but quite a

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lot of interesting news stories. Nonetheless, then we are going

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to get into some spookerly themed questions maybe as well

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as as said, letting you know the releases that are

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coming out, and that is what we've got on the

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cards today. My name is Pernheish. I haven't come up

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with a Halloween Susan in this time.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I just thought of the prospect of doing that just now.

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But joining me for this we have Sam Dignon and

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Mark Sanderson are both crawling from the crips to be here.

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Speaker 1: How are we all? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 4: Been decidedly like non spooking, more sadmonial punk recently for me,

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but I'm shifting into the spooky vibes for Halloween now

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to get ready for it. Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow for us Halloween wise, I'm thinking I might watch

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The Fog. I'm thinking I might watch something foul chy,

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maybe maybe The Beyond, as it will sort of fit

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the New Orleans vibe that we've been doing recently. It

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should be fun. How are we Mark?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm spooked out of my Pooper's mate.

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Speaker 1: I you always are, just always.

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Speaker 3: I'm constantly shivering. I just watched Spawn, the scariest of all,

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the biggest, the ghoul of them all, and let me

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tell you who it is, terrifying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's some interesting shows. In the last sort of

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week or so, I went to see Fields of the Nephelin,

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who are one of my probably one of the most

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instrumental bands too, I guess describing where my taste is

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at this stage in my life. I love that band,

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absolutely wonderful band and a perfect like lead up to

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Halloween show in particular. I also I went to see

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Egor with many many urs. Egor touring the UK this

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week with none other than Imperial Triumphant opening for them,

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which was really what caught my eye because I had

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not seen Imperial triumphant because they I don't think they

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had played in you know, Manchester or the Northwest, the

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kind of area where I am, since they once played

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a Damnation like many years ago. At this stage, I

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had not seen them like post them really becoming a

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very well known popular band as they come sort of

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you know, in their world as they are, so I

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really may I got right out there for the Eagle

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Show with Imperial opening, and you know, it was like

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a thirty five forty minute long opening set, but I

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got right up the front for it, and their intro

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music was the kind of gold Star cigarette style advert

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that's on the record.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: They had like sort of like a nineteen thirty style

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Fleisher cartoon thing behind them with like a skeleton smoking

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a cigarettes and it was like smoking kills the whole

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you know, it's very like you know themed, it was

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all in there. I was close enough to you know,

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the front to notice that the bassist was wearing snake

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skin boots, which is very cool, unreal commitment to the

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glitz and glamour of it. And because i'd never seen

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Imperial traffic before, I didn't realize that because obviously you

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know they're not anonymous, right, Like, if you're a fan,

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you know those three guys, and I've you know, I've

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spoken to some of them.

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Speaker 1: They do interviews or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Like, there's not a character that projects outside of the shows,

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I suppose. But because of that, I didn't realize when

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the front man speaks to the crowd, obviously with the

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big mask on, he's got like a robot talk box

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kind of filter on. It's like so he literally was

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like hello man, just with a robo voice. It was

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really weird, but it was cool as hell, you know,

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to finally get to see them. And they did like

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four songs from the New gold Star record, which were fantastic,

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and then one song from not even like the last

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few albums. Like I thought they might throw in one

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from Alphaville or Spirit Vetsy or something, but one song

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from like way back, from like before the current lineup

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even came together. I didn't even realize they played that

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stuff anymore, but a really random old pool along with

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all the New gold Star stuff. So that was my

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my night, really fulfilled seeing Imperial finally. But then for

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the rest of it I got to experience this kind

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of you know, intense hard electronic metal crossover kind of evening,

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which is what you know Igor. And also there was

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another support act who I'd never heard of before, and

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Speaker 1: Like, who this band?

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Speaker 2: Who are like playing above Imperial. I guess it's because

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it's much more fit with Ego's building. There's a man

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called muster Boot Record and they described themselves as computer metal.

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it's full on video game stuff basically, like it's kind

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of like they had, you know, the background screen playing

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loads of like nineties video games foot behind them and

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crowd is really like it's They're not the Imperial Triumphant

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kind of nerds where you know, like Imperial Traffics have

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songs about like buildings or whatever, which is what I am.

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you know what I mean. In between songs, they were

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just playing hard gabba, just like full on the most

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like intense you could not have a conversation with the

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person next to you level of gabba being played.

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Speaker 1: But then Ego as the.

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tent of Bloodstock, and like it's a weird sensation Igor

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because you know, they've been around for a while, and

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can pull like few thousand people every single night, like

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whatever city in the UK they might be playing in.

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it clearly has like a massive audience. And what I

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was kind of watching the crowd reacting to them, and

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it is like it's it's bewildering music, but you do

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an opera singer who comes out and just goes oh

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in a very very you know, like has no kind

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of I don't know, no off switch. I suppose for

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the moment when she's on, like it's it's way I

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more than Fulta Tamo ever deserved to. But that was

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an element of it. But at the same time, you've

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about their new album like a few weeks ago, that

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in kind of piecing together that music, because it's utterly

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crazy music. And I was trying to ask him like

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these things the way you do? And it's an interesting

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when he's just doing like this is just a full

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on kind of IBM electronic type set amidst this, like

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you know, metal chaos, and I was just sort of,

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made me think about how, I don't know, the Internet

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and an era of sort of very you know, genre

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extremely mainstream as well, like stuff like this is more

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popular than traditional forms of rock and metal in a

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bands or whatever who are not filling the venues that

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something like Igor is playing. And I was again, I

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but they are you know, maybe they're they're they're video

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game fans or just you know, a very online kind

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of audience who gravitates you things maybe based on kind

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of you know, like vibes and whatnot, more so than

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necessarily traditional song structures. But it's a very very intense

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show ego. Definitely, it's definitely one to kind of take

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as said, finally just getting to go out and see

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a few tracks from Imperial Triumphant Sam. We've got a

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lot that we need to cover. But I know, what

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fraught hardcore songs as the kind of like the weirdo

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panicked moments in the middle of it. Fantastic. Was good

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to see them again after like several years. Defeata dramatic, intense,

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emotional hardcore. That was great. And then yeah, the actual

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love songs and Hoot War music all in a row.

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on stage. Yeah, so that's the difference in it. I

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feeling of like NonStop great music, we all love, let's

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with immediately for me, the best announcement of the week,

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which Acid Bath have announced around the System of a

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in stadiums across the Europe, and they're playing that one

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stadium show in London. I was looking at that being like, please,

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please God, acid Bath play a UK show, just headline

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somewhere else. And those prayers have been answered because Acid

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saying that all of those things of that kind of

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size and statue are going to make their way over

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to the UK show. But I trust that Acid Bath

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will pick something cool and interesting. So I am very

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interesting what happens there. But right now the news that

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we have that Acid Bath are actually playing a headline

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show in the UK and tickets have already gone on sale,

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and yeah, of course I've got one, so like I

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can officially now for me, this reunion is a go.

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I have like an actual tangible receipt that I am

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seeing Acid Bath next summer, and that is all that

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matters to me.

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Speaker 1: It would like me with a levee where ticket. Yeah,

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I love that.

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going to play, isn't it? Like where is it Manchester Academy?

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Is it this one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So it was announced for the Ricks right, which I thought,

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that's that's small, and that's gonna get upgraded. And now

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currently it's been upgraded to Academy one, which is I

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can't probably like three four.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, But yeah, that's for what Acid Bath

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I've seemingly been doing. It's pretty still pretty small things considered,

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like it's cool they're doing it.

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the big system shows and stuff, and if you're wondering, oh,

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why haven't we got an Acid Bath headline show in London.

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There's probably some you know contract contract. Yeah, they're already

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playing in London. You just have to go see a

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big stadium show to do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that problem, and as the whole.

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Speaker 2: Posse of people who have obviously you know, from all

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over the country, even who I've seen this and gone yeah,

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I've got to go to that. So that the people

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are going to congregate on Manchester for the Acid Bath

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show and I know.

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Speaker 4: No showering for a week before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the big swamp party in the middle of

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the summer. And so that is immediately like one of

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the things that is the most exciting about the entirety

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of next year, particularly as said, with the what we've

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currently been doing on that's no matter. It's just perfectly timed.

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Here we fucking go Acid Bath next summer. As said,

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it's real. Now it can finally happen. Let's move on

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to I guess less good news, which I just we're

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keeping kind of tabs of this, I suppose because this

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is a band who has been very lightly mentioned on

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the show. I'm talking about Dogma, who I for the

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first time really like paid any attention to just a

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couple of months ago at Bloodstock when I went to

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go and see them, just kind of on a tip,

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people like, heyho, go see that band, and I was like, okay,

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and I had a whale of a time. It's the

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basically the band of sexy Nuns who play a sort

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of very very cheesy but just very kind of openly

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flamboyant sort of heavy slash power metal. And I've went

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along to see it and I thought, this is just

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great fun and some of these tunes are genuinely really good,

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and the show was there and everything, and that's I

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think the only time I've mentioned them so far. But

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I went back and listened to their album from like

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a year or two before that, and I was like,

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some of these songs I immediately gravitated to live are

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really big. So I had my tabs on Dogmas, like,

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let's see where this goes. Unfortunately, it seems to have

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already just collapsed and fallen apart. Where for the past

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couple of months I'd noticed their you know, the Dogma

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train kind of building steam with them upgrading their own

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venues and stuff like a UK tour they've got planned

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and all this business. But this week three of the

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members from I think that lineup that I saw at

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Bloodstock have all come out and said, hey, the band

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has essentially kind of removed us on the whims of

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a manager figure who is replacing these women who are

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part of this lineup, and it seems like a very

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very almost like very old school icky story of kind

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of managing controlling figure fucking over the musicians who are

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actually in the band. And when I saw Dogma and

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I was, you know, checking them out afterwards, I was like,

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there is an air here of something that is, I

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don't want to say corporate, but there's an air of

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something that could be a little cynical in terms of

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like the presentation of it, in terms of the the

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wording that they use, like their social presence, all that

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kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: It felt very branded to me.

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Speaker 2: Very very branded in a way whereas like you can

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tell that this is meant to be something that could

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follow in the footsteps of you know, Ghost or whatever

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it might be. But I went with it because I

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saw the performance and I was like, this is legit.

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These songs are great, and these performers are great. But

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now if those performers are saying they've been ousted by

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the kind of person doing that branding, particularly for a

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project which is kind of you know, using a lot

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of language about liberation of women against kind of patriarchal

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religious institutions and whatnot. It's like, just you know, it

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rights itself that it's being kind of maneuvered in this

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way by a management figure, you know what I mean,

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and the women are kind of being being used like this. Unfortunately,

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it sounds like the thing that I actually enjoyed about

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Dogma is being gutted by the part that is doing

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the Ikey branding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That like that's when he was like, I obviously they

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come and when I heard like the like of Prayer

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cover and I was kind of like, okay, this this

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feels like people like it. But again it just felt

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very brand and this is kind of like my the

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worst kind of possible outcome for it of like all

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the members, we've been fucked up and you're seeing other members.

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Was like I auditioned to being Dogma, yeah four years ago,

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and then was showing the contract and was like, no,

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screw that. And the whole thing is feeling very much

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like there is a figure who's kind of like I

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want to sell something and we're going to dress up

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as a kind of like feminist, blasphemist sort of thing,

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but it really it is about building a merch machine

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and then like all of that and it just the

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whole thing is like again, I'm not gonna say it wasn't.

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I was like, yeah, that's a totally cynical thing. It

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feels like it could be. But as you said, with

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the performance, that felt genuine, so I was like, okay, well,

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if that's what's genuine, then cool then maybe. And now

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it's played out like this and I'm like, yeah, there's

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that cynical, corporate branding machine kind of feeling to it

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played out right in front of you.

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Speaker 2: It's the kind of treatment of something as if it's

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like a girl band, you know, where as said, the

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songs I thought were great, and the performers and the

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musicians who I watched were clearly great. But if there

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is someone willing to treat those people who are really

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utilizing their talent for this as disposable, then it's when

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you it's it's an attitude that is one of those

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things that just feels totally alien to what rock and

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metal music should be about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this sucks.

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Speaker 3: Like after you saw Dog man, I'd never heard of them,

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but you basically we're like Mark, you would love this. Yeah,

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and you're right, and like I've only just like gotten

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into the album. I really love it, and this sucks.

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I think. I don't know, it's funny because like I

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guess there was an air of like this feels a

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little artifice, but also I'm a hair metal stan I

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sort of I don't inherently mind artifice in my music.

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It's just when it gets to this point where this

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is Simon cole Shita is, so this is the Spice Girls.

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This is like so horrible and so like should be

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of the past. Like I can't believe that, a it's

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happening in power metal of all fucking things, but be

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in twenty twenty five at all, Like it feels so

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of the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said that this is we're all

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the sort of the same boat here of basically having

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only immediately kind of gotten into this thing. Yeah, and

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then it has just sped run its way into unfortunately,

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the you know, ikeier practices of the music industry, which

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is really unfortunate because, like I said, I had my

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tabs on Dogma as like a potential you know, let's

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see where this can go type thing, and maybe it will,

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you know, continue to get bigger or whatever, but not

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without its trail of people left behind, which is a

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really unfortunate thing. So, like I said to you know,

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the women who have come forward with these stories and whatnot,

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who have been kind of pushed out, left and the

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cold here, those are the people who have my sympathy

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in this regard. And like I said, they were the

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people who I enjoyed in Dogma in the first place.

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So yeah, something that should have been exciting just immediately tanking.

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Speaker 1: But there you go.

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Speaker 2: That's what's gone on with Dogma. Let us move on

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to some very big festival and live announcements as well

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as the Acid Bath one of course for next year,

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and we're going to start with Arc Tangent, who came

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out with their first lineup announcement for twenty twenty six.

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And this currently does not feature any of the headliners

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I believe, which makes it kind of even more sort

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of antilizing, doesn't it. But the top row of what

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is on this Art Tangent post over twenty twenty six

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is Igor, who, as I just said, I saw this

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last week and talking about how it's very you know,

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very striking out their kind of show if you can

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see it. So that's a perfect booking. Perturbata is their

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chat pile. Are there also Alcest But there are three

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bands I think on this poster that I think, you know,

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for us as commentators, kind of particularly jump out us here.

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One of those is Svalbard, who are of course on

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their way out as a band. And I don't know

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if this is billed as Valbard's last show.

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Speaker 4: I think it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure about that. I don't know, but

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certainly it is the for the last time. They're playing

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Art Tangent obviously, and it's one of their last sort

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of few shows. And we were imagining where their last

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sort of show might end up being, whether it is

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at Timegent, whether it's a maybe a hometown festival.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: There you go, But Svalbard's final festival appearance is notable.

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We also have Heck appearing on this lineup for what

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they've labeled as ten years of instructions and they have

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also said, I noticed on their social media's last Chance,

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so that that's kind of bittersweet. In the a few

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years ago, we got a song and it was like

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Heck seemed to be coming back, and then it went

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absolutely nowhere. Unfortunately. I guess this is our final chance

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to dance with Heck but then appearing to do something.

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And the big one is Oathbreaker, which we were talking

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about the road Burn announcement a few weeks ago, and

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I have to eat my words here, I said, I

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am not sure they would even do anything outside of

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that one road Burn appearance, but I guess it makes

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sense that as they were once billed for it many

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many and moons ago before the plague happened, that they

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would extend to the UK and play Art Tangent Festival.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is big from Arctangent, as like

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I saw first Swing Archange again is like it's kind

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of like a few names I really like and then

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a loast of I have no idea about and kind

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of the same vibe here. But the stuff I like

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on the Archtangelant this year is like the best stuff

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they could possibly book for my mutations lot ways, and

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they booked Othbreaker like if other festivals are kind of like,

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hint that my favorite albums of twenty sixteen, it's gonna

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be a good year to sort of see sets kind

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of featured around that next year. For me, I like,

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assuming this isn't build as rare in full, but I

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would assume it's going to be a rare heavy set,

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you would guess in the sort of situation.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's really cool.

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Speaker 4: Alcest is wicked, Starbard Final Festival, Heck one final time

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for Then again, if they're doing instructions in full, seeing

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that sixteen minute closer is going to just be a

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magical moment. So I think this is like really strong.

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And then yeah, like per bit of chat pile and

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headliners to come. I think this is freing someone who's

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not necessarily to launch fark tangent. I am so in

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on this.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, loose fucking said. I saw the poster and my

478
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,920
eye was immediately drawn to Alcest, immediately drawn to Heck,

479
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,319
and I was like, oh, that's brilliant. Hold on a

480
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,160
fucking minute, are you kidding actual?

481
00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:58,519
Speaker 1: But I couldn't believe it.

482
00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: I thought it was like a jo good First, I

483
00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:03,640
was like, there's no way that is unbelievable.

484
00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:06,279
Speaker 1: Like, how do you feel about the Heck news?

485
00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:09,799
Speaker 3: I feel I don't know, it's odd with Heck. I

486
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,559
just sort of need to not really be that invested

487
00:23:13,599 --> 00:23:17,119
in them for my own sanity. So I'm at a

488
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,559
place where, you know, if they're gone forever, that's fine,

489
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,079
but they pop up once in a while that's exciting.

490
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:24,519
I don't know. They did that show in twenty twenty

491
00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:27,440
two at the Underworld that I went to, and it

492
00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:32,279
was sort of vague whether anything else was gonna happen,

493
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,519
So I did sort of take that as another final

494
00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:40,519
heck show, another big you know, blowout arctangent like their

495
00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:44,799
previous final show. That's nice. Something else on this lineup

496
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,160
that I did notice is Agent Prescore back.

497
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, what have they been? I don't know.

498
00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:53,279
Speaker 3: They've been sort of in purgatory of being like, oh,

499
00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:55,880
we're writing a new record, guys, for about eight years.

500
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,160
So yeah, fingers crossed. You know, Agent Press are back

501
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,400
on the back, on the attack doing stuff. This is

502
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,039
I mean, there's lots of exciting stuff on this line up.

503
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:08,119
Basically it looks sick.

504
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:08,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

505
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:10,039
Speaker 2: I never got into that band, but I know a

506
00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:14,160
lot of people were really really into them. Sam terrible news,

507
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:17,319
And there's only one reason I'm containing my excitement about this.

508
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,319
You know, this is at the same time as the

509
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,240
Cure in Manchester.

510
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: Fuck off is it? Yeah?

511
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,279
Speaker 2: Jesus, this, this is this is why today I've had

512
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,920
an air of melancholy over me.

513
00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:33,319
Speaker 4: I did not I did not put those two together. Well,

514
00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:37,839
hopefully if arm Tangent lands on a certain thing and

515
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,680
I can sing a day for oat Break, a day

516
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:46,839
that might have to happen. Fuck I preserved, damn it.

517
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: Yes, So I guess I'm also observeding what things fall when.

518
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,839
But I saw this and went, oh no, I don't

519
00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:57,920
know how large across imagine there will be. You know,

520
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,240
obviously the majority of the people going to the I

521
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:02,000
do not know what arch Tangent is. Imagine there will

522
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:04,200
be some crossover of like, because the Cure is so

523
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,279
universally beloved, of people who would go to an art

524
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,319
Tangent who maybe already booked in to see in the Cure.

525
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: It's it's rough that one.

526
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: But removing my own troubles out of this, obviously it's

527
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,000
big from Arctangent and the return of oath Breaker in particular,

528
00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:22,240
as well as you know, final shows from Heck and

529
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,000
Final Festival, ports from Stoubard and so on. Notable stuff

530
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,039
also Radar Festival announce their first lineup festival for next year.

531
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,559
Off of the back of this, they have got animals

532
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:34,319
as leaders headlining, also the likes of the Pineapple Thief,

533
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,200
north Lane Protest, the Hero, several things are on there.

534
00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,240
Radar Festival. I guess it's kind of filled in the

535
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,559
niche that tech Fest used to do, and just in

536
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:47,599
the way that tech Fest was never my festival. I

537
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,839
never went to tech Fest Radar because it is, you know,

538
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:53,559
trading in the same kind of scenes I suppose is

539
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:55,519
not necessarily my festival. But I did look at this

540
00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:58,160
and go, you know what, fair play Radar Festival. I've

541
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,000
been around now for a few years and it feel

542
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,119
like Radar have just very neatly and firmly sort of

543
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:07,000
you know, they've filled into that niche that a tech

544
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,640
Fest once did, and so as a I guess, you know,

545
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,079
they're now a pretty staple part of the UK festival

546
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,359
calendar for next year, for you know, any given year.

547
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,799
So I've got to give them the kind of the

548
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:18,640
tip of the hat for that.

549
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: It's funny seeing them grow because I feel like I

550
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,559
knew Radar as this tiny little tech metal festival that

551
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:31,000
like haken Wood headline in Reading or Guildford or wherever

552
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:33,759
it was and suddenly it's in Manchester and what they

553
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:38,559
under it feels super just sort of homegrown, you know,

554
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:43,720
natural organic growth. Yeah, it's really nice that. I don't

555
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:47,160
know the case scope bands have a have a festival,

556
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,119
they can play again, like the Pineapple Thief fucking as

557
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,079
soon as tech Fest ended, where were they playing?

558
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 4: Protest here being back you know like that that they're

559
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,519
always really fine live that that's a cool booking again.

560
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:00,759
Pineapple Faith there one of those ones that they passed

561
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,519
me by. But Animals as leaders as your top build

562
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:06,039
band with like a returning process here, I think that

563
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:07,480
if you're into that sort of thing, it's a really

564
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,559
strong kind of first wave.

565
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's move over to the other side of the

566
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,400
Atlantic for something that I guess yes, we just have

567
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,279
to kind of discuss even though you know none of

568
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,519
us are going to go, but just as a as

569
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:20,599
a poster, it's bizarre. Hawthorn Heights not very off in

570
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,119
this band and can get too us head. Suppose they

571
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,200
are doing a twentieth anniversary tour next year for that

572
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,640
album If Only You Were Lonely. It's an album I've

573
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:31,920
never heard of in my life? Do we have any

574
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,920
interest in if only you were lonely by Hawthorne Heights here.

575
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,599
Speaker 4: So the insane thing about this is is I know

576
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:41,559
one Hawthorne Heights song like like that most people know,

577
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,440
ohio as for lovers, that is a bang. I'll give

578
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,759
them that. This isn't even the album with that song

579
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:50,200
on it. That blew my mind. I was like, hang on, wait, wait, wait,

580
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,640
wait wait, I was like because I was like, oh,

581
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,759
they're doing that album in full fine, No, people who

582
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,799
like that song probably like a couple other songs off

583
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:58,920
that album Court and then what was another Animal was like,

584
00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:02,799
there's an other album that hawforne Lights fans want to see.

585
00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:05,640
If I don't believe that that's not real, well, they

586
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,880
want to see it so much that the support bill

587
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,799
for this US tour. The reason we're talking about this

588
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:14,079
is Let Live and Creeper, which just immediately right for

589
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,039
obviously for anyone who has you know, been following those

590
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:21,319
two bands for approaching a decade or whatever, me it

591
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:24,400
just makes you go, why do once a decade we

592
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,200
have to have a repeat of the pierce the Veil

593
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,559
at Bridge to the Academy with Let Live and Creeper,

594
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,039
where those two you know, beloved great bands have to

595
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,880
support some GoF Why is that like a repeating occurrence

596
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,400
like fucking penny Wise emerging from the sewers every like?

597
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,359
Why is that once a decade thing that happens that

598
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,039
let limn Creeper are contractually oblige to go around together

599
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,920
for some shit to go on after them. I mean

600
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,039
my take revis I was like, oh, well, let Live

601
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:57,680
are about to break up again. Last time this happened,

602
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,720
let Live then broke up, So is this really about

603
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:02,920
to end after this?

604
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:06,799
Speaker 3: So I'd fall over all my mates if I had

605
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:08,839
to watch fucking Horthorne Heights every night.

606
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,759
Speaker 1: But anyone in.

607
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: America who really wants the letter than Creeper along with

608
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:17,519
that that you are able to do so next year also,

609
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,920
let's keep it moving. A perfect Circle have announced their

610
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,720
first UK and European performances in seven years. Next year

611
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:27,960
they are going to be doing two nights at Bricks

612
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,359
and Academy in London before then going around the rest

613
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,960
of Europe. So they return of a perfect circle for

614
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,880
everyone who's been waiting on ten to hooks to see

615
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,519
then again the Foo fighters over in America again Anno.

616
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,920
It's a really big American North American tour with Queens

617
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,640
of the Stone Age. So it's nice to see, you know,

618
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,200
obviously the longtime collaborators of Josh Hommy and Dave Grohl

619
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,240
paling it up together again on a big tour. But

620
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,440
they're taking out Mannequin Pussy and gouge Away with them,

621
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,559
which gouge Away in particular, that is a pretty like

622
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,799
caustic band to be opening what is it ume stadiums

623
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,160
for the Foo Fighters, So good for them in particular.

624
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that, you know, that's two bands I see

625
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:09,240
play Outbreak and they're going to be in stadiums with

626
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,319
the Food Fighters. That's kind of that's kind of crazy,

627
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:12,440
but like it's really.

628
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:13,039
Speaker 1: Cool for both of them.

629
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Iron Maiden are going to be continuing their Run

630
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,680
for Your Lives touring cycle. They have announced North American

631
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:22,200
dates that are going to be happening in August and

632
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,960
September of next year, and the support bill right considering

633
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,640
we here got Hailstorm and the raven Age, and let

634
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,519
it be known, Hailstorm weren't even on every date. I

635
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:35,119
went to two of those shows in the UK and

636
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,559
I only saw a hailstorm at one of them. North

637
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:45,440
America gets Mega Death and Anthrax, two actual seminal legendary

638
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,440
heritage metal bands in their own right. What the fuck

639
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,039
we got hailstorm at one show, still in.

640
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:55,759
Speaker 4: Time for the raven age to get added. Don't worry, parents, Yeah,

641
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:56,440
the only way you can.

642
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:58,559
Speaker 2: Make this barrier is to have the raven age of

643
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,359
opening up for them.

644
00:30:59,359 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: But what the fuck?

645
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:04,039
Speaker 4: UK getting shafted on big stadium tours is kind of

646
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:07,000
like a tailor's old time at this point. But yeah,

647
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:08,720
this is like you'd have a great night at that

648
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:11,000
even with Megadeth on there, you'd have a great night.

649
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if you would plays David Mustain with Austin

650
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:15,839
Dickinson much better.

651
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: Now, well, let's stay on Megadeth, I suppose, because this

652
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,759
is another story where we're gonna have a bit more

653
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:27,400
of a discussion because there was much sort of you know,

654
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:31,519
chin stroking this week, weighing up some teaser hints and

655
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:33,640
whatnot that had been dropped, and now it has been

656
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,279
confirmed Megadeth's final album that we of course know is

657
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,240
going to be out next year. We heard the single

658
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:43,079
Tipping Point that came out a while ago.

659
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: It's been a bit of a.

660
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: Trend for the last several Megadath albums to feature a

661
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,920
cover on it. I don't know why, it just kind

662
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,440
of happened. The cover that is going to be on

663
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,799
the final Megadeth album. Dave Mustaine said before it was

664
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:58,200
fully confirmed, we're doing a cover, but it's a song

665
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,079
that I wrote, and so every one goes, oh, we're

666
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:03,960
doing an old Metallica.

667
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: Song, aren't we?

668
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:09,839
Speaker 2: And yes, Ride the Lightning by Metallica is going to

669
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,599
feature on the final Megadeth album. And of all sort

670
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,960
of you know, announcements of covers, this one is. It's

671
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:20,400
bigger than just will the cover be good or bad

672
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,279
or not right, Because we can get excited about bands

673
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,880
doing covers if it's a cool pairing whatever. This isn't

674
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,359
really about that. This is about the act itself of

675
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:36,839
Megadeath finally on their final album covering an early Metallica

676
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,720
song that Dave has said been very vocal over the

677
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:42,079
years that he had a very large part in writing

678
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440
The absolute Hoot's part of it is one of those

679
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,960
things that I don't know how much we should be

680
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,640
kind of applauding or gufforing at this.

681
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,119
Speaker 4: I'm both I think it is a great bitch shit house.

682
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,200
This is like you're losing six nil, you score one, God,

683
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,519
and then you start shaying you didn't beat me, like

684
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,599
the loading of like I won in the end, I

685
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:12,480
covered right the lightning on our final album, you didn't

686
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:14,440
beat me Metallica.

687
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: Like I am my own, I'm owned.

688
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:19,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've long held thing like Dave Muslin is one

689
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:21,640
of metals most gotten two men, and this is kind

690
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,319
of like proving that, but in a way that is

691
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,880
kind of like kind of admirable and kind of like

692
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,200
you've held onto this grudge for so long that your

693
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:35,559
final parting statement, the final recorded output of Meganef will

694
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,759
be a Metallica cover. That is like the long game,

695
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,480
and I kind of have to admire that level of

696
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:44,759
bit of pettiness and shit housery is so.

697
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: Mad, Like we've just gotten almost recently, in the last

698
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,279
decade or two gotten past the whole of Dave Mustin

699
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:56,119
talks about fucking Metallic all the time.

700
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: Thing.

701
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,359
Speaker 3: Megadeath are sort of on their own. They're no longer

702
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,960
that associated with Metallica, so that literally the final stretch

703
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:07,519
to be like, oh no, actually it's still all about Metallica.

704
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:11,960
It's so so weird. Do I love it as a statement?

705
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,960
And do I love that that's how Mega Death's career

706
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:18,119
is going to end? Absolutely? Do I ever want to

707
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:21,360
listen to it? Nope, exists.

708
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like I said, whether it would be

709
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,159
about the cover being good or not, it's kind of

710
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,800
besides the point at you know, prime that prime Megadeth.

711
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,719
If this had happened when you know Dave was at

712
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,000
his most salty and most coked up, then yeah, I

713
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,559
can imagine Megadeth in the eight he's doing a ripsnort

714
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,880
in ride the Lightning cover. I mean, I personally prefer

715
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,800
mechanics of the four Horsemen out of those two versions,

716
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,280
so I can see how it would work. Nowadays, we

717
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,800
all know what it's gonna be, right, it's gonna be you.

718
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,639
Speaker 1: Know, flesh my eyes and what it is.

719
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,559
Speaker 2: But about the move, Dave put out an interesting kind

720
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:56,000
of statement along with this, and where he managed to

721
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,960
actually gloss it up in a very savvy kind of

722
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,280
way where he talks about it kind of closing the

723
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,480
circle and come in full circum terms of where he

724
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:08,480
started and then when he ended, and in a way

725
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:10,559
I mean the way he described it, it's more like

726
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:16,400
kind of permanently seiling off the sort of conflict or whatever, like, hey,

727
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:20,320
I respect Metallica, we made great stuff together. Here is

728
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:23,000
and again for the final album. It is of course

729
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:27,000
sort of bringing Dave's career full circle to go back

730
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,840
to where he started with Metallica, and by phrasing in

731
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,960
that way, he does an incredible pr move by making

732
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000
a sort of you know, associated with that rather than

733
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,599
what everyone's response upon seeing the headline is, which was

734
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,840
what we've just said. What an absolute insane salty.

735
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: Move to.

736
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: In some way associate your final closing parting shot of

737
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,519
your career, which should be all about celebrating forty plus

738
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:58,119
years whatever of Megadeth, one of the greatest metal bands

739
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:01,639
that have ever walked the planet, with or without association

740
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,440
to Metallica. To make people only think about Metallica in

741
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,760
that last moment is I can totally see the argument

742
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,159
of how it is shooting yourself in the foot, But

743
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:14,639
just for how Meganeth have been, you know, over those

744
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:19,119
forty years, it's it's both the totally right and completely

745
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:22,280
wrong thing, Like it is genuinely both things at once.

746
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,239
In terms of Dave's motivation. I can imagine it being

747
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,119
both things at once. It is him trying to reclaim

748
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,119
this old song that he was heavily involved in writing

749
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:33,280
much of that was then taken away from him, as

750
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,440
much as it is this completely petty, bitter move that

751
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,599
it's it is, whether it's a good move or not,

752
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:45,440
it is poetic in just like Yep. Obviously, Meganeth are

753
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,519
going to end with some weird bartalization of Metallica, the

754
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:54,320
same way their first album has Said featured a reclamation

755
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,639
of a Metallica Dave Mustain written soul, I do.

756
00:36:57,639 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 3: Like okay, You've You've told me.

757
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:01,199
Speaker 1: I think.

758
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: It's so rare that you get a final a final

759
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,960
song from a band and it be that poetic and

760
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:15,920
be that sort of full circle. I'm on board, no bucket.

761
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,199
Speaker 2: And most importantly, ry the Lightning does also sound like

762
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,159
it could be a UK TV game.

763
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,679
Speaker 1: Show, so the theme is still there.

764
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 3: That the Bushred sounds like that as well.

765
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,199
Speaker 2: Would that just be a game show of playing guitar

766
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,119
Hero which would be pretty sweet, but yeah, insane news

767
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,440
from Megadeth still also some pretty big news here. Children

768
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,800
of Bodom, the surviving members of have announced that in

769
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,559
twenty twenty six, they are going to be reuniting for

770
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:49,039
a show in Helsinki, as of course, an Alexei LeHo

771
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,320
tribute show. And I wasn't shocked by this news because

772
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,559
I feel like I've heard the other members the George

773
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:58,320
of Bodom, so I've heard this floating around maybe like

774
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,599
that something like this could occur, and it hasn't. You know,

775
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,639
this is an announcement of hello, we are like Bodhom

776
00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:08,000
after Midnight, a back or whatever. We're touring as this

777
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:10,679
and all that stuff, which would be a different matter.

778
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,960
But I wasn't surprised by the news of a, at

779
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:17,599
least right now, a tribute show. Mark, You're also a

780
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:20,360
big Bodom fan, so what's your take on this news.

781
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: I think as long as it stays a very sort

782
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:30,360
of separate from a distance tribute thing, I'm not too

783
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:33,880
fast about it existing. I'm sure it would be good fun.

784
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:37,960
It is odd because so much of Children of Boddom

785
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:42,519
was Alexe Leo. He wrote most of the songs, he

786
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,320
was the focal point, he was the frontman, he was

787
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,519
a showman. I barely know anything else about the other

788
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:54,440
members of Children at Bottom like and I love that band,

789
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:57,559
So I don't know, as a one off thing, Joe,

790
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,480
that's nice, lovely and if it becomes a thing where,

791
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:04,320
you know, five times every couple of years they'll play

792
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,800
the festival circuit, sure, why not. I'm sure if it

793
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,480
was in front of me, I'd have a nice time.

794
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's still pretty palty good in fairness, And yeah,

795
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,719
obviously you know, for in Finland, a hometown crowd, I

796
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,760
bet like that shit is fucking like religious experience to

797
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,599
a lot of that audience. But yeah, keep tabs. I

798
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:22,599
suppose on that Employed to Serve have announced that they

799
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:25,280
have got a UK tour in twenty twenty six, but

800
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,840
they're avoiding a lot of the kind of most heavily

801
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,079
played city so you won't see a London date here,

802
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,280
or a Manchester date Bristol, et cetera. They are going

803
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,920
to be hitting up places like Norwich and Milton Keynes

804
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,800
and Shipley. I genuinely don't even know where Shipley is,

805
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,519
so apologies to the population of Shipley. But if you

806
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:42,599
will living Shipley then you can see Employed to Serve

807
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:45,119
next year. And they're bringing Cage Fight with them as support,

808
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:48,320
so yeah, cool tour happening there. This is a public

809
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,639
service announcement that Relapsed Records have reissued the entire catalog

810
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,599
of the influential eighties Japanese hardcore band lip Cream. The

811
00:39:56,679 --> 00:39:59,639
Japanese hardcore scene from kind of the eighties is one

812
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:02,079
of these day that particularly every time we've done like

813
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:04,920
a hardcore band special like Nails for example, was a

814
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,599
big one. All site of these bands like Bustard and

815
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,920
lip Cream and Jishm and whatnot as like influences, but

816
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,840
a lot of that stuff has been really hard to

817
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,119
like just track down because it hasn't been so readily available.

818
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,039
But this is one of these bands, lip Cream. Relapse

819
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,800
have reissued everything, which means it's now all on streaming services.

820
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,159
So if you want to go and just like have

821
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,280
a dive into some like really crazy, violent, fast eighties

822
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,719
Japanese hardcore from an influential band that you probably don't know,

823
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,599
a lot of the music from all of the lip

824
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:36,159
Cream stuff is down there and available. I'd maybe, seeing

825
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:38,719
as it's Halloween, I would maybe recommend their nine Shocks

826
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,519
of Terror EP, which would be a nice little twelve

827
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:43,599
minutes or so to you off. But that is all

828
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,119
out there and final news story we have left my

829
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:53,199
favorite till last. An Illinois man this week was arrested

830
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,079
for publicly impersonating none other than former Van Halen singer

831
00:40:59,199 --> 00:40:59,880
Sammy Hagen.

832
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,159
Speaker 4: I love any news story that begins with like American

833
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:08,880
City Man. It's always they're good, like always a good time.

834
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: Have you seen the mugshot of this man?

835
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 4: That's why I just laughed at like.

836
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: This is so fucking good. So apparently this guy whose

837
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,599
name is something Putnam, which obviously, immediately as I'm reading

838
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:26,719
Putnam says makes me think about seth. But he entered

839
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:34,119
several establishments, including two banks and a vape shop, which

840
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:38,880
is already good. He tried to open accounts in these

841
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:45,800
places under the name Sammy Hagar Enterprises LLC, when at

842
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,760
one point someone asked him to prove he is in

843
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,880
fact Sammy Hagar. He is opposed to have sung an

844
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,559
a cappella version of the Sammy Hacar song I Can't

845
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:59,679
Drive fifty five. Now, I don't know that much about

846
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,960
Sammy Hagar's music. We have someone here who does, mark

847
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,840
I could you sing on command an a cappella version

848
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,920
of I Can't Drive fifty five? To reassure people that

849
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,159
if you were impersonating Sammy Hagar, you are him.

850
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: The chorus is yeah, the verses. If he's doing the

851
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:21,119
verses good like Jesus Christ. That's a deep pool, even

852
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,719
from a big Sammy Hagar fan like myself.

853
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,679
Speaker 2: And then he was arrested after presenting an ID card

854
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:34,760
that read Sammy Hagar Rock Gods, which is like kloving levels.

855
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: Of incredible fake idea. What what?

856
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: What a story? Who are you impersonate? If you were

857
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,400
going to go on a crime bender, who do you

858
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,800
do you think you could most get away with?

859
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: Oh? God, Sammy Hagar?

860
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: Don't know.

861
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: Did you see the quote from like one of the

862
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,400
people who won the bank tell us whatever? It was

863
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,480
like he smelled like Margarita Mix. I was like, yeah,

864
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,360
it's probably.

865
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark this one. You've told me.

866
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: There's someone who People have come up to you multiple

867
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,559
times and said, are you X person?

868
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: Who is that? I can't remember? Oh my god, the

869
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,199
book from Louth Oh the guitarist right Sea.

870
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have multiple times, not people asking if

871
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,119
I am him, but people saying I look like j

872
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,159
Mascus from the.

873
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I was thinking of yeah, which

874
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,800
basically just means.

875
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: I'm a man with long hair and glasses and a beard,

876
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:27,719
a flannel.

877
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,039
Speaker 1: You all look the same. Yeah.

878
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: But if I see a new story that someone has

879
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,639
been walking around vape shops in Glasgow presenting fake IDs

880
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,920
saying j maskis enterprises, I know exactly.

881
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: Who will have been committing these X.

882
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: Could I just add to this, like you messaged me

883
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,519
beforehands in, We've got some insane Sammy Hagar and news,

884
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,400
and I, having seen the Arena tour, well thought, oh yeah,

885
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,920
that is pretty insane. I'm glad, Glad parents aren't it

886
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,400
into the script? Glad he's talking about it. I have

887
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:02,679
no idea idea about this story until this morning.

888
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: What's the Arena tour?

889
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: I think I saw that and scroll past it because

890
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,159
I was more interested in crime.

891
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,119
Speaker 3: It's just, you know, Sammy Hagar, he's playing his own

892
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,199
solo hits and Van Halen songs and he's playing arenas

893
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:20,800
across the UK with John Jett and support.

894
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be amazing if you went along to that

895
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,719
tour and turned up and the guy on stage was

896
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,280
this man?

897
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:30,159
Speaker 1: How do we know?

898
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,199
Speaker 4: It's he's still getting away with it.

899
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:37,599
Speaker 1: It's like the threatening of fucking hair met person.

900
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: He passed the Margarita sniff test.

901
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do exactly, so a very

902
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,000
strong contender for Best Story of the Year, right. That's

903
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,079
like I said, was not a news there, But we

904
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:54,239
are now going to get into some questions returning. He

905
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,960
came from the That's the group on Facebook as well

906
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,760
as the That's the Metal discord for our Patreon supporters.

907
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:02,480
I did ask because this episode's going out on Halloween.

908
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:04,480
I asked for people to kind of theme them and

909
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:07,119
make them a little spooky horror centric. So we are

910
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,400
going to focus on those ones. If you ask something else,

911
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,239
we might get around to answering it next week or so.

912
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,599
But let's dive into these ones. And first off, Andy

913
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:17,480
Paine is going to kick us off saying, if you

914
00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:20,960
could pick a modern day version of Freddie versus Jason,

915
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,239
who would you pick? And then also who would you

916
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,639
pick on the soundtrack? Which, to be honest, I haven't

917
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:27,639
really thought about that, but I generally just thought about

918
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,599
re enacting. I'm going to presume the intention of the

919
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:34,320
question is like picking two more recent modern kind of

920
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,719
horror figures and putting them against each other. And I

921
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,840
don't know, Andy, if you are a listener to the

922
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:42,400
T ANDM does horror kind of side podcast we do

923
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,360
on the Patreon back.

924
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,079
Speaker 4: You might have gone the exact same route as I

925
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,239
have here. Let's wait, Yeah, because this.

926
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:50,199
Speaker 2: Has actually been something every few episodes, maybe it might

927
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:53,800
be a recurring bit of discussing this part. Although only

928
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,840
one of them has been nailed down, and I think

929
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,159
we've changed the other one a few times. But the

930
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:03,000
best character from anything in the last few years to

931
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:04,960
put forward for something like this, Sam, you and I

932
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,760
I'm sure both agree, is Gabriel from Malignant.

933
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has to be Gabriel from Malignant. That was

934
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:14,239
my That's it number one first draft exactly. We need

935
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,920
more Gabriel. We need to cut out the cancer, we

936
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,000
need to throw chairs, we need all of this.

937
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: So absolutely I agree that the very third thing I

938
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,880
thought of is Gabriel versus someone who is your second pick? Though,

939
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,320
who do you pick Gabriel against?

940
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 4: I mean, because this a literation or just because it's

941
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000
been on my mind so much, but I have gone

942
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,519
Gabriel versus.

943
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: Glad me too, Me too.

944
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,599
Speaker 2: Which let's just say this is a spoiler for anyone

945
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:43,519
who might not have seen weapons. We won't go to

946
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:46,880
detail necessary about you know who that is, but I

947
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,000
thought the exact same thing. They're like the camp icons

948
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,280
of Yeah.

949
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 4: That's exactly it, like go high camp with it.

950
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: And I think Gabriel could have some real fun doing

951
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,239
like wrestling moves, throwing chairs at like armies of control

952
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:01,800
old woman.

953
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

954
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking if she's utilizing powers, let's say

955
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,119
she's gonna set the kids on him, So there's gonna

956
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:13,719
be an army of controlled you know, child soldiers as

957
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,400
we have running around in parts of weapons, and Gabriel

958
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:21,519
is gonna be like fucking wrestling move matrix eating them,

959
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,480
which is just perfect. I also think about you know,

960
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:28,400
obviously you've got like Gabriel versus Long Legs. Maybe Gabriel

961
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,639
versus Maxine Megan I think would come up a lot,

962
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:33,239
although I'm Megan, I think you would be best, say

963
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,159
for like a shorty face off of versus Chucky or

964
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:42,159
like Leprecorn or something. But Gabriel versus Gladys I'm I'm

965
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:44,280
glad We're totally on the same page here. That's exactly

966
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,000
who it has to be.

967
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,559
Speaker 4: It just made so much sense to me in terms

968
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:51,800
of like those who have been like my like horror

969
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,199
like icons that I adore in love from the sort

970
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,840
of last few years, and there's like Peter MAASV would

971
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,199
be just so stupid, so ridiculous, and you can have

972
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,840
so much fun with it, like say, Gabriel doing is

973
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,079
that weird and toyed backwards movement against over controlled people.

974
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:08,599
It would rock so hard. And in terms of soundtrack,

975
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:11,000
I mean for the US shows obviously had that new

976
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:14,360
metal and kind of milkcore kind of crossover soundtrack. I

977
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,719
don't know, like because how do you pick some of

978
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,840
that suits Some like like Gabriel Versus Gladness, they don't

979
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,599
necessarily have as.

980
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's malignant, I think still of all the movies

981
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,320
to come out in recent years, Malignant still fits that

982
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,360
sort of Maybe you'd update it too, I mean obviously

983
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,519
not the most up to date now, but bands like

984
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:33,599
Code Orange and whatnot who have that new metal edge.

985
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:37,599
I think, Yeah, the malignant, new metal horror energy is

986
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:38,519
definitely in there.

987
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd agree with that.

988
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:44,199
Speaker 4: But then weapons guys like like sixties and like just

989
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,440
like pop sort of stuff like you can do something

990
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,920
like that, but yeah, give us.

991
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: Gave youel versus. Yes, let's just keep ripping here. I

992
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:50,519
like that.

993
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: I like the idea that and this is purely because weapons.

994
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:55,800
Is it like George Harrison as a couple sort of

995
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,199
like sixty seventy style songs, Yeah, that are in. I

996
00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:00,320
mean like if we want to go from our old

997
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:04,199
we could soundtrack Gladys with bands like Jess and the

998
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,320
Ancient Ones and whatnot that are very like you know,

999
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:11,000
I see it. I see the halloweeny cooky, you know,

1000
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:14,440
psych rock type stuff. And then Gabriel can be the

1001
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,360
more like new metal floor filler, hard arms, way.

1002
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 4: Coche range, that sort of stuff that real harsh like that.

1003
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,639
Speaker 2: And then they can have like an houral battle of

1004
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,199
those two.

1005
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: It's a genius. I mean, Mark, I.

1006
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,039
Speaker 2: Hope that you've seen weapons for one thing, because otherwise

1007
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:31,440
you're like, what are you talking about?

1008
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: Standard Diva.

1009
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: Don't worry absolutely. So there you go.

1010
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: There's I think pretty perfect pitch old on.

1011
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: I've got a couple of good ones. I think I'm

1012
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:47,760
gonna take Megan Regan, put her against Annabelle. Yeah, you've

1013
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,039
got two dolls, one of these technological, one of them

1014
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:51,800
spooker ups, spooker naturals.

1015
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,519
Speaker 1: I mean, it's true, you're not wrong. I don't know.

1016
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: I feel the cent track was slightly patronizing, like girl

1017
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:10,599
boss anthems like yeah yeah and fuck it the beach

1018
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:12,360
that makes you old versus the.

1019
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:19,079
Speaker 2: Meg but immediately turns it back into a fossil. I

1020
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:21,559
like that good bit. Yeah, so a lot of fun there.

1021
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Tom Fellow's Hollcraft asks what is the most atmospheric show

1022
00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:28,800
you've been to where everything just fit together perfectly? For example,

1023
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,320
I saw zeal And Ards are playing all converted church

1024
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:33,599
in front of huge stained glass windows, and the merch

1025
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:36,719
stoor was littered with skulls and candles to add to

1026
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,679
the atmosphere. This is one where like, I am desperate

1027
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,639
to go to some of these, particularly, I mean the

1028
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:46,280
countries of Norway and Sweden seem to get all the

1029
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,480
best ones because all of those you know, black metal

1030
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,320
events and fests and whatnot over there. I'm desperate to

1031
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,599
go to one of those shows of like wat Ain

1032
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,199
playing in a fucking emptied out quarry at sunset or

1033
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:00,800
in the crypt under you know, beyond the gates veester

1034
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,079
of where I might be. So those are like the

1035
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:05,079
ones I like, I aspire to go to some of those.

1036
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,320
The closest I have come. The one that always comes

1037
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,559
to mind for me was when I went to Netherlands Deathfest,

1038
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,039
which was in the where Roadburn takes place, the thirteen

1039
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:18,840
Papodium there and seeing Emperor for one thing, in that

1040
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,239
incredible looking venue was really wonderful. Also I got to

1041
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,239
see bands like Skinless and like None Slaughter and stuff

1042
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,199
like on this really big stage. But then particularly across

1043
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:31,440
the road from that venue, there's another one which I

1044
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,639
think is closed down now, so this is a piece

1045
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:36,280
of history. Now, there was a venue called the Heppatronat

1046
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,519
which was like a converted church, and in that venue

1047
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:42,079
I saw, I mean, the two bands that spring to

1048
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:44,000
mind that I saw in there was I saw Profanataka

1049
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,400
in there. No come on the Merchdwan from what I remember,

1050
00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:50,960
but seeing that band, you know, you know, it just

1051
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,199
writes itself, doesn't it. And also Evoken the Funeral Doom band,

1052
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:56,440
and they were just like suffocattingly heavy again in this

1053
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:58,280
wonderful converted church type venues.

1054
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,639
Speaker 1: So that is the.

1055
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: Closest I've got to this. I think my hope is

1056
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,840
to within the next few years better that.

1057
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of the same, I mean, me being

1058
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,960
into like hardcore milks you don't know it, tendo atmospheret shows.

1059
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: Not really the type of shows I go to aren't

1060
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,800
very atmospheric, but if you want to talk about sort

1061
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,239
of like the atmospheres of a certain style of music

1062
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,360
in the show perfectly fitting in. Think I would do

1063
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,760
a glass call hard corcial once and watch someone throw

1064
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,599
up on themselves. Good.

1065
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:29,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's valid.

1066
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,639
Speaker 2: I think, you know, if you know, you don't have

1067
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,480
to kind of do and obviously we're doing this has

1068
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:35,360
Halloween sort of thing, so you naturally go to spooky

1069
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,880
crips churches and whatnot. But I think, you know, I

1070
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,320
particularly like, oh, this is a fucking sweat box hardcore

1071
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,760
venue where you know history has occurred here. I think

1072
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,519
that is also apt.

1073
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,559
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I can probably say there's a bunch

1074
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:50,840
of them, but like they're kind of like I mean,

1075
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,239
right now, the most woman say is watching how You

1076
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,239
Wire under a bridge where like there.

1077
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:57,199
Speaker 1: You go fireworks into the crowd.

1078
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,519
Speaker 4: That that that did feel the kind of like amateurally

1079
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,519
perfecting of just like this is the anarchy and kind

1080
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:06,760
of like free spirited violence and kind of like expression

1081
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,960
that you want from hardicle where they like say, there

1082
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,960
are makeshift flamethrowers, there's a garden motorbike doing sort of

1083
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,840
doughnuts around the and firewar was going off. That shit

1084
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,400
was insane.

1085
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm stunned you didn't say that first

1086
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,559
of all, because that was a perfect answer.

1087
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like.

1088
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,519
Speaker 4: Pure hat spooky atmosphere, and then you said that. I

1089
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:23,960
was like, no, that isn't it okay?

1090
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:25,639
Speaker 2: But even like Mark, even just like a few weeks ago,

1091
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:28,960
seeing Blood Incantation with you know, Sigeon and whatnot in

1092
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,320
the Albert Hall in Manchester, which does have like stained

1093
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,599
glass and shit really cool.

1094
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: No, yeah, especially Sigjeon not so much as funny as

1095
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,440
it was to see them, but some of the majesty

1096
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,320
of Blood Incantation did feel really really special in a

1097
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:42,880
weird way.

1098
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baron, Jim Bowen asks, And this is a question

1099
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,639
that is perfect for this episode because this is of

1100
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:51,239
course the greatest Halloween band of all the Halloween bands

1101
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,360
that exist, So this is the day to talk about them.

1102
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,199
What are your favorite Misfits albums? Slash Collections stack Age

1103
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,880
is the only album I do regularly, but I will

1104
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,119
put the complete box on shuffle we are talking here

1105
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:05,840
about one of the bands who probably if I were

1106
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,320
to track the last fifteen years of my life, what

1107
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:11,920
is the band that I have like most consistently constantly

1108
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,719
listened to throughout that whole time. There's a solid chance

1109
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,760
that the Misfits would be my number one, because every

1110
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,440
I mean, I love everything up to and through famous Monsters,

1111
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:26,000
Like that's just for me. That's like one of the

1112
00:54:26,039 --> 00:54:28,960
best bands it to have ever been, particularly if we

1113
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,199
were to focus in on the Danzig era stuff from

1114
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,000
like you know, seventy seven, seventy eight whatever up through

1115
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,079
eight three, eighty four, everything there, I have three.

1116
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:46,639
Speaker 4: Perfect albums, and then like all the other yeah.

1117
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:47,639
Speaker 2: Everything from you know, debut single cough Cool, which is

1118
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:49,559
one of the weirdest fucking things you can imagine to

1119
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:50,559
be their debut single.

1120
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 4: That keyboard line, Yeah, all the way right.

1121
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: Through to like who killed Marilyn whatever, and all of

1122
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,880
that is not just like, oh, it's all good, but like,

1123
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,840
all of that, in my eyes, is essential. So picking

1124
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,360
favorite out of this is very hard also because, like

1125
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,559
you just said, Sam, three perfect technical full length albums,

1126
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,719
but there's so much other shit, and there's so many

1127
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,400
different versions of things. Like that there's like the you know,

1128
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,239
the twelve Hits from Hell kind of abandoned studio album

1129
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,480
they recorded, and then those kind of versions pop up

1130
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,239
and all these other records. It's the thing that makes

1131
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,039
a Misfit special really daunting, even though I would love

1132
00:55:25,039 --> 00:55:26,400
to do it because like they're one of my absolute

1133
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,800
favorite bands of all time, but like really hard. So

1134
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:33,039
if I was to pick a favorite album, I think

1135
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,559
I would say static Age. But honestly, absolutely everything from

1136
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,920
the classic years is in my eyes a valid answer

1137
00:55:43,079 --> 00:55:46,000
essentially to the question I did have, like when I

1138
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:48,239
was first getting into the Misfits, one of them, I

1139
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,800
suppose the particular records that was important to me was,

1140
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,960
I think this is true for a lot of people,

1141
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,320
the Collection one, the one with that the Yellow Skull,

1142
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:58,119
and it's kind of like a best of and it

1143
00:55:58,159 --> 00:55:59,639
doesn't even have like a load of their best songs,

1144
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:02,119
like last Kreest isn't on that, which is fucking mental,

1145
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,239
but like it's just you know, Cherry picked lots of

1146
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,360
stuff from the kind of Danzig years. That and static

1147
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,840
Age would probably be the ones that were most sort

1148
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,000
of formative for me.

1149
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 4: I suppose, yeah, I would say Collection one, and then

1150
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,159
for me, if I had to say an actual album.

1151
00:56:16,159 --> 00:56:19,480
Though I'm a hardcore person, I like it when bands

1152
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,119
play hard and fast earth a D, earth Ad Wolf's

1153
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:25,519
Blood like yeah, like I know it hasn't got as

1154
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:29,159
many of the actual like classic songs, but when you're

1155
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,880
kicking off of earth Ad into Queen Wasp, I just

1156
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,199
want to like bulldoze down and building and run for

1157
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,880
a million walls whilst just as a skeleton it is

1158
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,960
like the perfect Halloween hardcore record is like fifteen minutes

1159
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,119
long unless you go for the you know, the extended

1160
00:56:44,199 --> 00:56:47,480
version which adds in Didie My Darling banger. It's just

1161
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,719
you can't fuck with it. Those those, like I said,

1162
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,719
the three Proper Dancing albums, they're all perfect. There isn't

1163
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,639
a wrong answer to pick one of them. But just

1164
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:58,239
because of like being hard, it's got to be earth

1165
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:58,440
A D.

1166
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even like obviously you know saying this

1167
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:03,719
because because of the day, but like Halloween, the song,

1168
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,079
it's got to be. I mean, it's got to be

1169
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,880
maybe one of their most covered songs, maybe just behind

1170
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,079
Hybrid Moments, but like that's not on one of the albums.

1171
00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: It's not on an album like it's it's I.

1172
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: Think it was meant to be part of the twelve

1173
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,280
Hits from Hell thing, and then it's sort of.

1174
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,239
Speaker 1: There isn't on an album, probably is it as a

1175
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:19,840
B side.

1176
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,199
Speaker 2: It's like some of the most essential Misfit songs are

1177
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,360
not either They're not where you think they would be,

1178
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,199
which makes, like I said, makes it very hard to

1179
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,440
like actually pick favorite records and records in the world

1180
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,239
because it's just kind of you just need everything from.

1181
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,159
Speaker 1: That particular period.

1182
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, if I pick one for me, it would

1183
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,000
be the Static Age album.

1184
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: Mark.

1185
00:57:39,519 --> 00:57:41,639
Speaker 2: I know that you're not like a Misfits obsessive, but

1186
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:43,119
you must have a few favorite songs.

1187
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. My relationship to the Misfits is mainly just like

1188
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:49,920
I listened to what's in front of me. I'll bung

1189
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:51,960
up a big playlist and just to have a nice

1190
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,480
time for half an hour with whatever the half of

1191
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:57,960
Misfits songs they throw at me. Sam's a hardcore person.

1192
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,599
I am a Ramon's slash nineteen fifties person. So I

1193
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:02,760
love Famous Monsters.

1194
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: I thought you would. I love the.

1195
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,159
Speaker 3: Sheen of it. It's got more of a pop full

1196
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:10,679
because it's really it's just it's great, you know, anthemic

1197
00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:13,960
punk songs, but it's also got this real lovely nostalgic

1198
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,920
nineteen fifties quality to it. Basically, my answer to this

1199
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,679
question is anywhere Saturday Nighties. That's my favorite Misfits thing.

1200
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, very very reasonable. Tom Reid asks which horror genres

1201
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,119
are you generally less interested in?

1202
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:30,599
Speaker 1: Eg?

1203
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: I'm not that into zombies. I find this question hard

1204
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,079
because I really like go I mean similarly to maybe

1205
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:40,960
you know, however you metal in a way, but even

1206
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:46,000
more so, I'm a very holistic horror fan. I will

1207
00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:48,719
I think every sort of if we're describing this going

1208
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,079
to sort of like subgenres of it or archetypes or whatever,

1209
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,400
there aren't any that I explicitly like disavow or bounce

1210
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,440
off of. I think horror fundamentally is again it's about

1211
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:03,159
kind of get inside your subconscious and what can maybe

1212
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:05,199
be brought out and sort of reflected back at you.

1213
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:10,039
And I think every you can interpret vampires and zombies,

1214
00:59:10,119 --> 00:59:11,920
and you know, you can do things with foul footage

1215
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,760
or fucking paranor jump scare movies or whatever it might

1216
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,280
be in ways that are compelling. But I suppose if

1217
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,079
there are some particular ones where you just go, oh,

1218
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,159
maybe like that one a little bit less or particular

1219
00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:25,960
trends or whatever. What are our areas of horror that

1220
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,039
we just go, oh, that's not so much my my jive.

1221
00:59:28,639 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it probably would land on the sort of

1222
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,559
the paranormal sort of jumpscar movie. Again. I've kind of

1223
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:36,039
softened on some of that more recently with like coming

1224
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:39,039
round to the conjuring movies, But that that particular boom

1225
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:41,320
when it was no insidious paranoractivity of the country and

1226
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,239
I was like, I was like, oh, I'm so not

1227
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,199
into what's going on in the major horror right now,

1228
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,000
so tuned out of that, and now I'm gonna like

1229
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,280
it has its place. So that's like, that was my

1230
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,679
first one I jumped to. Otherwise, like there wasn't much

1231
00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:54,559
else work. I could kind of go, like, that's just

1232
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:56,639
a blanket. I don't like that type of horror movie

1233
00:59:56,679 --> 00:59:59,480
because there's whatever sort of horrifying there's gonna be movies.

1234
00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:01,559
I like. It's like, but that would probably be my

1235
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:04,360
pick for You've got to be really special for you

1236
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,599
doing the sort of haunting like the paranormal jump scare thing,

1237
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,639
you're doing that, You've got to be on your A

1238
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:10,639
game for me to care.

1239
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark, I know that I'm just going off this

1240
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,440
question here. I know that you with zombies, for example,

1241
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,920
not necessarily your one hundred percent your your bag at times.

1242
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,679
But you can come around a little bit lately, haven't you.

1243
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing with questions like this is there's things.

1244
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,599
I'm not really a big zombie fan, like you say,

1245
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:32,800
but there are exceptions. There's exceptions in almost everything, Like

1246
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,079
I love twenty eight Days Later, all the twenty eight movies.

1247
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:40,119
Basically I revisited The Living Dead and I finally like

1248
01:00:40,199 --> 01:00:47,840
it because good rocks, Like there was great zombie stuff

1249
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,800
out there. Really, I should revisit a lot more because,

1250
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,760
like you say, for like a decade, I was just like,

1251
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,280
I don't really get zombies. It's just like a lot

1252
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,639
of the same type of stories being told over and

1253
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:01,440
over again, as if that isn't true of a lot

1254
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,320
of ghost stories that I love. Yeah, what's I don't

1255
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,159
really like splatter?

1256
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're not a gorehound.

1257
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: I'm not a gorehound. I don't really like this sort

1258
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:19,639
of the what's that guy? You love herschel Lewis your

1259
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:24,559
favor guy, the Master of Ceremonies that like, I'm not

1260
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:28,000
into that. And also yeah, I'm sorry to the people

1261
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,519
with Italy, but Giallo can fuck off.

1262
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,079
Speaker 2: One day, one day, one day, we'll get you. I

1263
01:01:35,079 --> 01:01:39,239
mean yeah, because I said every sort of you know, creature,

1264
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,920
whatever may be there are, there are classics of every

1265
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,159
form I think. So I've written down more sort of

1266
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:48,239
series of like micro just trends and features and whatnot

1267
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,599
that I don't even necessarily hate these things, but they

1268
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:54,320
are things that I maybe gravitate less too, and I uh,

1269
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,679
you know, I am probably less able to go along

1270
01:01:57,719 --> 01:01:59,840
with a particular wave of hype or whatnot that comes

1271
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,559
with these things. I love my like sort of like

1272
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:05,440
classic nineteen eighties and whatnot style slashers. But in the

1273
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,079
twenty twenties we've gotten more of these like cute see

1274
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:12,679
please with themselves, ones that like whether they be kind

1275
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:16,480
of streaming movies or like the big studio like you know,

1276
01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:19,360
sort of veried sort of safe style slashers, but like

1277
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,239
the what if ex premise or from another movie or

1278
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,000
like holiday or whatever. In the modern era was like

1279
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,039
a slasher with ATTACKI comedic edge, Like I don't mind,

1280
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:31,280
like The Happy Death Days and Freaky which started that trend,

1281
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,239
but I stopped watching all the later ones. The modern

1282
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,400
trend of movies that are essentially like just gross out

1283
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,400
exploitation movies but act like they're like really above it,

1284
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,280
and like they act like they're all about trauma and

1285
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,159
deep feelings and whatnot, and they end up being essentially

1286
01:02:47,239 --> 01:02:50,559
kind of empty or just like nihilistically sort of fatalistic

1287
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,000
on the matter. I would so two very different examples

1288
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,679
of what these things are, but I think they both apply.

1289
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,719
The Smile movies and what the Philippoop Brothers do. I

1290
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:01,440
think both kind of fall into that else obviously. I mean,

1291
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,239
I'll go and see it, and there are good ones,

1292
01:03:03,239 --> 01:03:06,119
but the Blumhouse slop stuff, even though some of it

1293
01:03:06,159 --> 01:03:08,920
is quite funny, Like I liked Night Swim more than

1294
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,920
almost anyone else in the world just because it was

1295
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,440
so absurd. Feature length movies that feel like they should

1296
01:03:14,519 --> 01:03:17,039
just be left as VHS shorts, allah Late Night with

1297
01:03:17,079 --> 01:03:21,440
the Devil, lor obsessed emptiness for like, you know, sort

1298
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,079
of that gen Z style of horror, like Terrifier and

1299
01:03:24,119 --> 01:03:25,599
five Nights of Phrase and what the words, like what

1300
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:27,920
are we doing here? Like why are we really like

1301
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,599
spinning our wheels about this particular story when it is

1302
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,559
nothing and not the stuff that kind of got involuntarily

1303
01:03:34,599 --> 01:03:38,079
tagged as elevated horror, like you know, Robert Eggers, Jordan Peel, whatever,

1304
01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:40,480
but the stuff that's kind of now come after and

1305
01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:43,280
feels like it's only influenced like that. Like I was

1306
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,599
thinking about this when I saw that movie together recently,

1307
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,719
and it's like, that's a kind of it's a body

1308
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,320
horror movie, but it's just entirely about like what if

1309
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,519
we just had subtext as text? The entire movie is

1310
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:57,119
one metaphor and you can just see exactly what's doing

1311
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:59,880
from frame one. Those, like I said, are not not

1312
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:01,519
for movies I hate, but to sort of things that

1313
01:04:01,559 --> 01:04:03,800
maybe stop me getting excited about stuff like.

1314
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 4: Adding on to this sort of like modern trends, the

1315
01:04:06,519 --> 01:04:07,719
public domain slop.

1316
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that been that off entirely.

1317
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,199
Speaker 2: I haven't even watched any of those because what's the point.

1318
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched like two of them, was yeah, I

1319
01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:18,719
can't be bothered with this anymore. That you had the

1320
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:20,760
what like tiny thing of a core idea is there?

1321
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,800
You've just gone the most lazy Soulos route with it. Yeah,

1322
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:24,599
been that off.

1323
01:04:24,719 --> 01:04:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all the things I mentioned I will at

1324
01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:28,199
least give a kind of a fair try, because again,

1325
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:29,639
to answer the question, I don't think there is like

1326
01:04:29,679 --> 01:04:32,039
a sub genre or an archetype or something that I

1327
01:04:32,199 --> 01:04:35,440
just reject and go, no, that's bad, because I think

1328
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:36,840
the best way to be a horror fan is just

1329
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,119
to kind of find you know, find joy everywhere.

1330
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just who are the Phillipple brothers.

1331
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,679
Speaker 2: So they did talk to me, and then this year

1332
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:46,559
they did bring her back.

1333
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 4: And I'm also Deaf Match Wrestlers like and.

1334
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:51,199
Speaker 2: Also Death Match Wrestler for some reason. Yeah, and I

1335
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:54,519
think both those movies are okay but with problems.

1336
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't seen neither of them.

1337
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you'd like them, but anyway, Yeah,

1338
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:03,119
there you go, right. Chrome Mode asks excluding countries where

1339
01:05:03,159 --> 01:05:06,280
English is the first language, which country has the best

1340
01:05:06,639 --> 01:05:08,760
horror movies? Like I said, I try to be very

1341
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,599
holistic about this stuff. I think anyone who is into

1342
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:13,760
horror but refuses to watch movies if they're not in

1343
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,840
English and only watches the American remakes of foreign horror movies,

1344
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,480
those people are genuine posers and that's a good application

1345
01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:24,960
of that word, I think, and I will. I'll seek

1346
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,280
out stuff from wherever it might be. But I think

1347
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,760
when it comes down to it again, discounting places where

1348
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,199
English is the first language, I think objectively, this has

1349
01:05:35,239 --> 01:05:37,199
to come down to Japan versus Italy.

1350
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,519
Speaker 4: Yes, I was about say two countries and Japan and Italy. Yeah,

1351
01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:44,159
I feel like obviously both haven't don't have the output

1352
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,360
now that they once did. But if you look at

1353
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,440
the sort of like turn of the millennium, Japanese horror

1354
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:51,960
is like some of the scariest shit you can watch,

1355
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,840
and then that sort of like sixties through to eighties

1356
01:05:56,079 --> 01:06:01,000
Italian horror, you know, bather our Gento Faulci like absolute

1357
01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:02,280
geniuses at work.

1358
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is where we can win back some

1359
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,639
of the favor that Mark Crully lost for us there.

1360
01:06:08,639 --> 01:06:11,639
But like I said, I mean, even if you discount

1361
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,800
what Germany was doing in like the nineteen twenties, you know,

1362
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,239
like we did up our hard Nocerati episode, and it's

1363
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,360
like that's an entire like they were the most important

1364
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,360
country in the world when it came to horror cinema

1365
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,000
at that point in time. But in terms of a

1366
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:29,000
bountiful amount of like really important stuff. Like I said,

1367
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,000
I think I've done to Japan and Italy, and it's

1368
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,320
I think, my head says Japan because the longevity, you know,

1369
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,639
like they have going back to fucking the fifties and

1370
01:06:39,639 --> 01:06:43,199
sixties or whatever, like Japan was doing really really out

1371
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:44,440
there and classic.

1372
01:06:44,159 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 4: Stuff, vintage ghost stories, yeah Baba and stuff like that

1373
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,480
are like unbelievably atmospheric in a way that you're just

1374
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,079
going to go out, how the fuck did they do that?

1375
01:06:53,159 --> 01:06:55,079
Speaker 2: Even if you want to factor in the Kaiju stuff,

1376
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:57,239
right and like Godzilla and that whole real stuff, and

1377
01:06:57,239 --> 01:06:58,679
then all the way through to like we said, the

1378
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,119
you know, up to into the twenty first century, My

1379
01:07:02,199 --> 01:07:07,079
head says Japan. My heart says Italy because that sixties

1380
01:07:07,159 --> 01:07:08,960
through I was say, the early nineties, like up to

1381
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,360
about sort of cemetery man.

1382
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 4: Cemetery man, yeah, cut it.

1383
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: That is I think if if I was to go

1384
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:19,159
which if you take one of these away from me,

1385
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:20,920
and I'd be the most upset. I can never watch

1386
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,199
it again. I think I would hold onto the Italian stuff.

1387
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,480
But like I said, head wise, logically for the longevity

1388
01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:28,920
and again the sheer amount of incredible Japanese horor movies

1389
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,960
every year. Japan is also a shout mark you're going

1390
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,519
to pick Japan obviously obviously.

1391
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:35,119
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

1392
01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's fair, you know.

1393
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,079
Speaker 3: I like some Italian I like I've come round on

1394
01:07:42,119 --> 01:07:45,320
my pal Mario Bava, like some of I like the

1395
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,239
one that's basically Star Trek and doctor who what's that one?

1396
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,199
Find it of vampires?

1397
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:54,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Blu Ray just here get that.

1398
01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:57,599
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, just when you consider the past of

1399
01:07:57,679 --> 01:08:01,360
Japan like Kaidan and stuff like, yeah, it's it's I

1400
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,360
love ghost stories and Japan has some of the scariest

1401
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:07,039
just most effect in ghost stories.

1402
01:08:07,239 --> 01:08:07,599
Speaker 1: Japan.

1403
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Japan probably is the right answer. But

1404
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,400
also I'm holding onto my argento and I do you.

1405
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,520
Speaker 4: Want to throw in a bronze medal for France? Oh yeah, yeah,

1406
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,159
yeah if you look at obviously the sort of new

1407
01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:22,640
French extremity thing, but also over like the last or

1408
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,399
two years, I just have a thing where I'll go, like,

1409
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,359
I'm want to watch a bunch of horny vampire movies

1410
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:27,079
from Genrelin.

1411
01:08:27,239 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are like insane trips.

1412
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:34,239
Speaker 4: Fascination is these movies are like balancing act between beauty

1413
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:39,119
and sleeves and like atmosphere and depth and complete exploitation garbage.

1414
01:08:39,159 --> 01:08:41,800
They are fascinating movies. They've all kind of become quite

1415
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,479
readily available in the lastew years. And that's why I

1416
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,439
think there's a sort of a crop of like horror

1417
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,439
fans who just can like pick up and watch a

1418
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,600
bunch of genrelin films every couple of months. But France

1419
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,880
would be my bronze medal in this.

1420
01:08:52,119 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you go back to you know, like

1421
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,279
Lady Ablik and is of that face and stuff, and yeah,

1422
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,920
today you've got like Julia Deck or No. So I

1423
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,520
think I can I get in France as the bronze medalist.

1424
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,159
I think for sure.

1425
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,239
Speaker 4: You know, you go Martyrs and those sort of that

1426
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,039
those again, those sort of mid into twenty tens, like

1427
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:10,560
fucked up extreme movies, Like France has got a real

1428
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,520
pedaly for it as well.

1429
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I said, you know, Germany and Norway

1430
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:20,199
and Thailand and Korea and Eastern Europe, there's play stuffering

1431
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:24,520
from all over. Yeah, And final question for our particularly

1432
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,720
you know horror themed Halloween hyperblast questions, where you know

1433
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,439
we're talking about some stuff here that we might not

1434
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,880
usually talk about. One hyperblasts, but I'm having fun. Alex Chillingworth,

1435
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:38,119
Oh hello, Alex. Favorite horror adjacent filmmakers, as in Lars

1436
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:41,079
von Trier doesn't really make horror films, but over half

1437
01:09:41,119 --> 01:09:44,399
of his work could be labeled as for reasons, Yeah,

1438
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,119
there is that sort of there's a realm of like

1439
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,359
Lars won Trier and like Gaspar Noe and like Michael Hanneka.

1440
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,279
I think who could always sort of describe as almost

1441
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,960
like discomfort cinema where it's not really horror, but it

1442
01:09:57,039 --> 01:09:59,920
kind of you watch it in a similar kind of mindset.

1443
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,520
An obvious one is David Lynch, who is not sort

1444
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,640
of you can't categorize him what he does strictly as horror,

1445
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,359
but horror is obviously a huge part of the kind

1446
01:10:13,359 --> 01:10:15,920
of the proportion of the pie chart. I think David

1447
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,039
Fincher is usually at his best when he lets some

1448
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:22,199
horror in you know, Seven Zodiac, Gone Girl, even go

1449
01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:24,840
with Dragon Tatty, that kind of stuff. I would say

1450
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,640
one of my favorite modern filmmakers falls into this with

1451
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:32,039
Jonathan Glazer, who his you know, his last few movies

1452
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:35,520
like Birth under the Skin, Zone, of interest. I think

1453
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,000
the only one of those that you could maybe even

1454
01:10:38,079 --> 01:10:40,359
only halfway call like a horror movie, and you know

1455
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:42,760
a genre sense is under the skin, but all of

1456
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,279
them like he's part of the family as far as

1457
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:49,880
I'm concerned in terms of the the atmosphere and the

1458
01:10:50,039 --> 01:10:52,239
ability to innately horrify.

1459
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,159
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I think, And that's a good chat. I

1460
01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:56,680
think like lynchivis right for me. My mind went in

1461
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,319
to Yogurs. Slam from Us is like.

1462
01:10:58,279 --> 01:10:59,199
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, good chap.

1463
01:10:59,279 --> 01:11:03,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, massively not necessarily horror movies, but that discomfort, that

1464
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,960
unsettling sort of vibe, that's just a weird feeling that

1465
01:11:08,079 --> 01:11:10,359
you get from his movies where you like, has this

1466
01:11:10,359 --> 01:11:12,439
guy ever spoken to another human being in a normal way?

1467
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,319
He just like it is. It's odd and disconcerning, and

1468
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,119
I really do dig that vibe.

1469
01:11:17,239 --> 01:11:19,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like Poor Things is like the mainstream

1470
01:11:19,119 --> 01:11:22,159
hit out of his last several movies, but it's it's Frankenstein, right,

1471
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:24,359
It's a Frankenstein story, and it's full of like you know,

1472
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,199
Victorian era gothic mad science ship.

1473
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:28,520
Speaker 1: Then you get, you know, like.

1474
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,239
Speaker 4: His movies are odd kinds of kindness and Kalim sacred

1475
01:11:31,239 --> 01:11:34,319
here that are just really weird, uncomfortable movies.

1476
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. My brain almost went the opposite direction

1477
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:43,319
where I was. Basically, I started from the starting point

1478
01:11:43,319 --> 01:11:46,640
of who are my favorite directors? Remove all the horror ones,

1479
01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:49,039
and I was thinking, like, you can make the case

1480
01:11:49,079 --> 01:11:53,000
for people like, well, actually do these people like Henry

1481
01:11:53,039 --> 01:11:55,000
Selick or how You're Miazaki?

1482
01:11:55,279 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 4: Oh Zaki is a good shout. There is horror fem.

1483
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:03,399
Speaker 3: Lots of ghouls and monsters and different like crazy stuff.

1484
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,000
None of them I would really consider horror movies, but

1485
01:12:06,039 --> 01:12:08,279
there is horrifying things in all of them.

1486
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:09,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1487
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 2: Similarly, I think you could say like Bond, June Hope,

1488
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:14,439
I think count. I think like Parasite and Memories of

1489
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,239
murder and stuff are like part way into horror movies.

1490
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,840
Ditto Park cham Wuk partri.

1491
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,119
Speaker 4: Because frillers always have that kind of like slight yaway,

1492
01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:25,560
but then some of them do go that step further.

1493
01:12:26,119 --> 01:12:29,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I maybe he would count as a horror director.

1494
01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:32,359
I'm not sure, but I up until a point, there's

1495
01:12:32,399 --> 01:12:36,560
a very fine point. I'm a big Tim Burton fan, sure,

1496
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,720
and he's obviously just so associated with horror, like he's

1497
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,840
obsessed with Vincent Price, and that's obviously all his influences,

1498
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,720
like B movie horror stuff, like that's just who he is,

1499
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,279
and he loves gothic stuff and he's his movies are

1500
01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:53,399
about aliens and skeletons and headless horseman and like, but

1501
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,560
I wouldn't necessarily call any of them like horror scary

1502
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:58,279
horror movies.

1503
01:12:58,399 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he thinks goth movies more than he does horror.

1504
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,680
I think I like Sleepy Hollow as a horror movie,

1505
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,560
but most of them are as say, sort of more

1506
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,199
sort of like goth aesthetic movie, so maybe maybe he counts.

1507
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,439
I thought about Paul Verhoven, who is sort of that

1508
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,800
sort of you know, satirical genre thing, but there's a

1509
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:21,119
real like dark bleakness in like RoboCop and Starship Troopers

1510
01:13:21,119 --> 01:13:22,840
and like even show Girls, you know, the sort of

1511
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,760
grotesque in a way that is appeals to me as

1512
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,479
a horror fan. The king of that obviously is John Waters, right,

1513
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,159
who horror completely adopts John Waters, even though he's arguably

1514
01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:35,520
only really made a couple of like actual horror films,

1515
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,199
But like he's he's just in because it's all horrific,

1516
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,359
you know, I think ari Asta's destiny is to be this.

1517
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,399
I think this is where we're gonna be talking about him,

1518
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,720
because he he's got four movies out right, and two

1519
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,880
of them, the first two are explicit horror movies, where

1520
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,520
so he started in that genre, and so we talk

1521
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,640
about him as one. But if you look at then

1522
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,319
you know bo is afraid and then even more so

1523
01:13:55,399 --> 01:13:58,600
now Eddington. Yeah, I think I think it's his destiny

1524
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,039
as a filmmaker to fall more into this camp of

1525
01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:05,439
like the horror adjacent people, even if they're not explicitly

1526
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,479
doing horror more than he is. I think gonna stay

1527
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,439
as like a horror darling.

1528
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had one of the one that popped into

1529
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,439
my head was Alejandro Jodorowski is kind of again like

1530
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,680
all right, yeah, surrealist, like weird psychedelic movies that have

1531
01:14:20,359 --> 01:14:22,680
elements of horror to them at times, just because like

1532
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,359
some of that the free couch shit, but again, you

1533
01:14:24,359 --> 01:14:27,439
wouldn't necessarily call them explicitly horror movies. I was like,

1534
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,520
I do love those movies and that they're weird and

1535
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,159
freakish and discomforting, not necessarily hardh sweet again that kind

1536
01:14:33,159 --> 01:14:33,800
of vibe.

1537
01:14:34,119 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, my sort of equivalent more kind of you know,

1538
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,239
film mere kind of shout was Emar Bergmann who the

1539
01:14:40,279 --> 01:14:44,439
Seventh Seal and Persona and Cries and Whispers and Arrow

1540
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:45,680
of the Wolf and stuff. They all kind of have

1541
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,119
big horror DNA in them, even if most of them

1542
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:51,000
are not explicitly horror movies.

1543
01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: So there you go.

1544
01:14:52,039 --> 01:14:55,039
Speaker 2: That is the end of our Halloween question Time section

1545
01:14:55,239 --> 01:14:57,680
of nerding out over movies for a bit. If you

1546
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,920
enjoyed that, then we do that kind of semi regularly

1547
01:15:00,319 --> 01:15:02,720
on the T and M does horror series on the

1548
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,159
st Patreon. We're gonna be talking about Predator when the

1549
01:15:05,159 --> 01:15:08,399
new one comes out soon elsewhere on the Patreon. As

1550
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,319
said a few times in recent weeks, right now, we

1551
01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:15,199
are working on our Nola Sludge Special. Just for the

1552
01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:16,840
last two days, I can just tell you I have

1553
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,520
listened to so much Goat Hall and so much like

1554
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,079
supertrit Ritual and Soilent Green and stuff. So that's going

1555
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:25,000
to be the vibe going into the next part of

1556
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,880
our Nola special talking about all of the big names

1557
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:33,359
of the sludge genre in and around the state of Louisiana.

1558
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,880
This part going into the twenty first century, So if

1559
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,359
you want to hear that along with our first part

1560
01:15:37,359 --> 01:15:40,000
where we cover the kind of golden nineties years, then

1561
01:15:40,079 --> 01:15:43,359
that is over at patreon dot com. Slash that's start Metal.

1562
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,319
Let's finally end this edition of Hyperblasts Halloween Hyperblasts with

1563
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,119
the releases. Because we did reviews last time, We've got

1564
01:15:51,159 --> 01:15:53,319
a couple weeks of releases here to go, so I

1565
01:15:53,359 --> 01:15:56,439
am going to run through them now from last week.

1566
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,319
We start off with Soulfly, who returned and put an

1567
01:15:59,319 --> 01:16:02,960
album Chama. It is. Obviously I don't know how many

1568
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,439
Sulfi albums there are now, There are many, but always

1569
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,199
worth checking in on one. The thing that stuck out

1570
01:16:08,199 --> 01:16:10,159
to me on this one is there's one track that

1571
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:13,399
has guest appearances from Gabe from unto Others on it,

1572
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,800
and on the same track the singer from the hardcore

1573
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,359
band No Warning, which is a real like crossover I

1574
01:16:19,359 --> 01:16:21,319
did not imagine, but those two are there on the

1575
01:16:21,319 --> 01:16:23,359
same song. So good on MAT's Cavalier vaning A way

1576
01:16:23,399 --> 01:16:26,479
to bring those people together. Mammoth this is, of course,

1577
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,840
was his name, Mammoth van Halen, where his name is

1578
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,479
that guy? He's put out another record called The End.

1579
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,520
Then there was a couple of albums from kind of

1580
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,760
the you know, commercial popular metalcore and post hardcore side

1581
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,680
of the genre. Day Seeker with Creature in the Black Night,

1582
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,159
and Downswing with and Everything Was Dark in Your Pop

1583
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:47,359
punk Realms. There's Action Adventure with an album called ever

1584
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,680
After more sort of traditionally punk. There was Spiritual Cramp

1585
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,000
with Rude, quite an album that got a lot of

1586
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,600
buzz from where I sort of observed, at least with

1587
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,600
the new Acacia Strain album which is called You Are

1588
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,920
Safe from God Here and a Casha Strain seem really

1589
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,760
like they always get really positive reactions being kind of

1590
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,680
an old guard deathcore band who are so legitimately credible

1591
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,880
in kind of particularly the hardcore world, and I always

1592
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,359
sort of watch that and go good for you.

1593
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that they are so well regarded in that

1594
01:17:15,159 --> 01:17:17,199
sort of scene. Now everyone's kind of like has a

1595
01:17:17,239 --> 01:17:20,920
lot of respect and just kind of like again it's ways,

1596
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,840
but a credibility in hardcore just seems to be at

1597
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,960
an all time high. That they are, like of the

1598
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,720
old guard, maybe the most critically acclaimed at this point,

1599
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,680
like in terms of them just kind of like really

1600
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,039
come around. So yeah, and it's it's just a really

1601
01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:34,279
good hard record, like definitely check out if you like

1602
01:17:34,319 --> 01:17:34,920
your Death Corps.

1603
01:17:35,239 --> 01:17:38,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was that also in much more sort

1604
01:17:38,079 --> 01:17:41,319
of proggy out their reign, there's the band Psychonaut with

1605
01:17:41,399 --> 01:17:43,359
an IWM called World Maker, and I think they're playing

1606
01:17:43,399 --> 01:17:46,560
Damnation where we will be like next weekend, So if

1607
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,439
you are heading along there, you might be interesting about

1608
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,960
that record. For all my Grave Pleasures fans out there

1609
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,760
who have been following the different sort of things to

1610
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,000
have popped up in sort of the out of the

1611
01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:58,279
you know, the after winds of that band. Alexei Key,

1612
01:17:58,399 --> 01:18:00,920
who is the guitarist, one of the guitarist of Gray Pleasures,

1613
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,159
the one who is not in a Rumsey Pazuzu, he

1614
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:06,359
has put out a solo record called Vaya Kuvia. So

1615
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,600
it's all in Finnish and it's kind of like a

1616
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,039
sort of you know, country rock type thing I suppose,

1617
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,079
but you know, scandy style. So if you're interested in that,

1618
01:18:15,079 --> 01:18:16,760
that's out there. There was a whole load of EPs

1619
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,880
as well that also came out last week. The surprise

1620
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,800
drop one came from Rolo to Massi, who put out

1621
01:18:22,199 --> 01:18:24,399
an EP called in the Echo of All Dreams, I

1622
01:18:24,399 --> 01:18:25,600
haven't got around to listen to this yet.

1623
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:26,359
Speaker 1: Any good.

1624
01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 4: Is wonderful.

1625
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible. I love it. It ends on like

1626
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:35,479
a really slow song at the end that builds and

1627
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,600
I am addicted to.

1628
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: It, sick.

1629
01:18:38,039 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 2: I will find time for that soon. Elsewhere more metal core,

1630
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,640
that was Cold Rain with Optimize out on Pure Noise Records,

1631
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,479
as Heaven's Gate with a Heart Is a Heavy Burden,

1632
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:52,159
the heavy gnarly UK sort of sludgee band Mastiff put

1633
01:18:52,199 --> 01:18:54,359
out for All the Dead Dreams. And there was another

1634
01:18:54,399 --> 01:18:56,800
surprise drop, I should say, from the post black metal

1635
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,520
band Krallis, who put an EP called No Hope and

1636
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,960
they are I just assume they're always surprised dropping something

1637
01:19:02,119 --> 01:19:02,520
every week.

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Speaker 1: That's what Krelis do.

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Speaker 2: But we did mention them when we're reviewing the Agriculture

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record that week, so there you go. They arrived just

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on cue. Moving on to today's Halloween releases and we

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start with of course, where else could it be on

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this day? But Creeper returning with Sanguavore two Mistress of Death,

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the sequel to their Sanguvore record that will of course

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be in our final reviews bag of the year when

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we get into that in November.

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Speaker 1: Then there's Avatar.

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Speaker 2: With Don't Go in the Forest, and the album cover

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for this features you know what's his name clown man

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01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:37,239
just sort of standing with a balloon, just in a

1651
01:19:37,279 --> 01:19:40,239
classic Pennywise pose. And I looked at that and there's

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01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:41,960
nothing else on the album cover and I just made

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01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:46,720
me go, what are you for? For all you might

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01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,039
want to say about eistein Kills or whatever, at least

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01:19:49,119 --> 01:19:51,600
there's some kind of life there and there's some kind

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of imagination, whereas I generally I don't know what the

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01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,600
audience for Avatar and it's like, oh, look, he's just

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01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,920
doing a Pennywise is But that album's out if you

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01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,279
we want more credible old school death core legends than

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01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:06,760
Despised Icon are back with their first album in a

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01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,319
good like five or six years at this point, shadow Work.

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And then to flip to newer side of the deathcore coin,

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there's the band Spiked with a record called New World Killer.

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Then from the UK there's the kind of I guess

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they sort of describe themselves as doom punk band, which

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01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:24,000
Fever with another record all in all caps like Spikes

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one was fever Eton. Then moving into hardcore we have

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gum with Beneath the Wheel. Interesting record. I'm not quite

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01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,760
sure what this is going to be. I suppose is

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the new chat Pile collaboration with Hayden Pedigo Record. So

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01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,760
that's kind of avant guard musician getting together with of

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01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,119
course the noise rock band Chatpile. They've got an album

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together called in the Earth Again. And then to follow

1674
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,079
that particular rabbit hole of nightmarish stuff, Primitive Man, one

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01:20:49,119 --> 01:20:51,760
of the heaviest bands in the world, have got an

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01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,439
album called Observance. Anna von Housewolf, the avant garde kind

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01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,039
of singer songwriter, has got an album called Iconoclasts here

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01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:02,039
in the UK on Church Road Records. Band who I've

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01:21:02,039 --> 01:21:04,920
seen live and they were an absolute nightmare believe in

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01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,119
nothing I've got now about called Rocks. I'm curiously I

1681
01:21:07,119 --> 01:21:10,000
guess if that kind of leads to anything more then

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01:21:10,079 --> 01:21:12,239
a band who I mentioned on the news as forming

1683
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,000
a number of weeks ago. For all the grindcore fans

1684
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:16,880
out there, particularly those who are a fan of the

1685
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,600
band Gridlink, coming out of that kind of experimental grind

1686
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,199
direction from that camp, there's the band Barren Path who

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01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:25,399
have the album out today called Grieving.

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01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: UK death metal. This is a band I just heard.

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01:21:27,279 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: Of here called grave Ghoul, which is a very classically

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death metal name, but they've got an album called Gruesome

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01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,319
and Macabre, and I checked it out because the album

1692
01:21:35,359 --> 01:21:39,279
cover looks like a fault Chi poster, like fully Italian,

1693
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,359
you know, euro krusty zombie kind of vibes, and I

1694
01:21:42,359 --> 01:21:44,239
thought this record was pretty pretty decent from what it

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01:21:44,319 --> 01:21:46,800
sounded like. It just sounds like, you know, pretty meaty

1696
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,039
obviously if you like the band fault Chi, but like

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01:21:49,079 --> 01:21:52,760
it sounds, you know, pretty riffy, horrory death metal goodness.

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So I thought i'd shout that one out. Then in

1699
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,199
black metal, it's a few things out. There's the sort

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of Tolkien themed band One of Nine with a record

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01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:02,319
called Dawn of the Eyron Shadow. I'm curious to check

1702
01:22:02,359 --> 01:22:05,399
that one out this weekend. Two albums that I reviewed

1703
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,079
in Metal Hammer. One comes from Thron which is called Verias,

1704
01:22:09,159 --> 01:22:11,800
and one comes from the Brazilian band Outlaw with a

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01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,600
record called Opus Mortis. And then there is also a

1706
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,800
European band called Rune Magic with Cycle of the Dying

1707
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,119
Sun brackets Dawn of Ashen Realms. That's two album titles.

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01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,079
One of those would have done it. You could have

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01:22:23,079 --> 01:22:24,399
saved the next one for the next one, but there

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01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:26,039
you go. And then to bring it back to the

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EPs for today, Trivium Struck Dead EP. They, of course,

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01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:32,159
you know, recently knocked out an EP and we've heard

1713
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:33,720
one song from it, but that is now out there,

1714
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,640
so I'm curious to see what the rest of it

1715
01:22:36,119 --> 01:22:38,720
hold and what people make of it. And the UK

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01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,119
hardcore band going Off, who we've mentioned a few times

1717
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:42,239
over the years on the show and now at this

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01:22:42,279 --> 01:22:44,960
point have got their EP kill list two.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much for listening. I hope that you enjoyed

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this particular edition of Halloween Hyperblasts. Let us know what

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01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,479
you answers to those questions would be, because we had

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01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,239
a lot of fun answering those and we will be

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back next week.

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Speaker 1: Cheers everybody, Happy Halloween.