Speaker 1: Weird things happened.
Speaker 2: Weird, weird, weird.
Speaker 3: Welcome to You had to imitate. I'm sorry, It's okay
Speaker 3: now I'm always imitating you. Welcome to episode one sixty eight.
Speaker 3: I had to think about it for a second. Let's
Speaker 3: have said. So. We have a very special guest here today,
Speaker 3: Amy Westmoreland, a returning guest from episode eighty five, for
Speaker 3: those who want to catch up on our last conversation
Speaker 3: from Illuminating Joy. Amy, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, and you're in person this time.
Speaker 4: I am I did I Yeah, I did not travel
Speaker 4: here out of my boy.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, Alex did have a funny
Speaker 3: dream last night. I thought that was too good to
Speaker 3: not talk about on the show. Wait, you had a
Speaker 3: funny dream? Yeah, I did have.
Speaker 1: I had.
Speaker 5: I had a very vivid dream. Tell me all about
Speaker 5: it about Amy and Ryan Bro.
Speaker 3: He walks in the door and he sits down. He's
Speaker 3: he just kind of I'm not going to tell your dream.
Speaker 3: But he pauses for a second and he goes, Amy,
Speaker 3: can I ask you a personal question? He goes, do
Speaker 3: you psychically spy on people? It was shook. Now I
Speaker 3: wanted to know before I revealed my dream. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: so let's hear the dream.
Speaker 5: So it was very vivid, but it was yell too,
Speaker 5: and it was kind of like we were in a garage.
Speaker 3: It was kind of weird.
Speaker 5: But I kind of walked up to both of you
Speaker 5: who were standing around looking into this black cube, and
Speaker 5: the black cube kind of had like, you know, like,
Speaker 5: what's the Scooby Doo movie where they the this the
Speaker 5: faces of the people were in the Yeah, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm about.
Speaker 3: It's also like the freaking Bowl and Harry Potter with
Speaker 3: the souls in it.
Speaker 5: Oh, okay whatever, that's That's kind of what the cube
Speaker 5: looked like to me, Like there was like faces and stuff,
Speaker 5: and you know, we're talking about like remote viewing but
Speaker 5: like spying, and then you were talking about being met.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it does. We've remote you together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's crazy because so anyway, you were talking
Speaker 5: about being met with some sort of resistance, like some
Speaker 5: counter spying, like you were talking to each other about like, oh,
Speaker 5: they like almost caught us we were doing. And then
Speaker 5: it kind of I woke up and I was like
Speaker 5: I have to tell them because like I remembered it clear,
Speaker 5: and I like I didn't write it down, but I like,
Speaker 5: I like wrote it down in my mind. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I cannot forget to tell the mission. So I carried
Speaker 5: it with me all day at work and then I
Speaker 5: was like, all right, got to tell her that's it.
Speaker 3: Was a car.
Speaker 6: That's really especially last night we did a Discord Live
Speaker 6: event and Amy made an appearance.
Speaker 3: It was so much fun. Yeah, and y'all were talking
Speaker 3: about dreaming about each other while you were at Monroe.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like, that's the first thing that I thought about
Speaker 6: with that, So maybe you picked up on some r Yeah, well.
Speaker 3: It's interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I had a dream when we were there for
Speaker 4: Creator Gateway and I you and I were at a
Speaker 4: casino and we kept going, you know how, like casinos
Speaker 4: are big and sprawl, and we would go out one
Speaker 4: door and look at the street on that side and
Speaker 4: look for we were looking for a car. And then
Speaker 4: instead of walking around the block like normal people, we
Speaker 4: would go back into the casino to go through it
Speaker 4: to go to another set of doors. And that was
Speaker 4: the whole dream, just like walking through this casino and
Speaker 4: looking for this car, and when we finally got to
Speaker 4: the place where it was parked, it was gone. And
Speaker 4: then what was interesting is I had gone to bed
Speaker 4: early that night and you told me that you were
Speaker 4: up playing games all night. Remember do you remember that.
Speaker 3: Part playing games as in like with with the people
Speaker 3: at Monroe. Yeah, we were. We were playing like magic
Speaker 3: tricks and stuff with Chris. Interesting, that's wild.
Speaker 6: It's funny because they also like intentionally make casinos difficult
Speaker 6: to find how to get out of them, So you
Speaker 6: were like lost in the casino that.
Speaker 4: We never we never gambled. And what's interesting is when
Speaker 4: you mentioned the box, I thought about the cube. The cube,
Speaker 4: that's weird, and I was thinking about Chris, and then
Speaker 4: you mentioned a Chris again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you talking about? The cube? The Cube
Speaker 3: in the desert, the Cube in the I don't I
Speaker 3: don't want to go into it because when it's a
Speaker 3: special thing. Yeah, it's it's like a psychological game. But
Speaker 3: it's like a like back in the day, it was
Speaker 3: really used as like psychological evaluations. So I can't tell
Speaker 3: you what it is because then you know, when we
Speaker 3: actually do it, it would ruin it. Yeah. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 3: like a really fascinating thing that we were all doing, and.
Speaker 5: You're saying we're going to play this game.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's really not a game. It's it's like
Speaker 3: a it's a genuine like psychological test. But it's fun
Speaker 3: because it's like so detailed and so like the row
Speaker 3: that is, but you can win.
Speaker 4: No, no, it's like you need this, you.
Speaker 3: You need a psychic valve stat But yeah, no, it's
Speaker 3: crazy accurate. And we were playing it that night and
Speaker 3: that is weird. Did you say that because I had
Speaker 3: to do with cars and cubes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, cars and cubes, and I didn't get mine done
Speaker 4: that night. I got it done later because I missed it,
Speaker 4: and it was super accurate, and yeah, you don't want
Speaker 4: to be spoiled for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the cube was sitting on top of the car.
Speaker 5: Did I say that?
Speaker 3: Was it really? Yes?
Speaker 5: That it was like a car and then on the
Speaker 5: roof of the car the cube was sitting on it,
Speaker 5: and you both were like.
Speaker 4: You might say that you might be remote viewing when
Speaker 4: Chris is going to be here, yo, and he's gonna
Speaker 4: maybe give that to.
Speaker 3: You, Tristinge, Yo, Tristine, that's really wild. What did you
Speaker 3: do last night?
Speaker 5: Nachos went to sleep.
Speaker 3: So I haven't explicitly said this yet, but went back
Speaker 3: when you know, in June, when I was invited to
Speaker 3: go to Monroe, Amy was there. I might have I
Speaker 3: might have said that on by happenstance too, right, by
Speaker 3: it happenstance, like neither of you knew the other was
Speaker 3: going to be there. How incredible amazing. Also like she
Speaker 3: was the first person I recognized. Like I got there
Speaker 3: pretty late because you know, I had like a six
Speaker 3: hour drive, and I guess a lot of people flew
Speaker 3: and I was one of the last to show up.
Speaker 3: And when I walked in the door, I was being
Speaker 3: like toured around the facility and like, here's your room,
Speaker 3: here's the kitchen. You know, they kind of like take
Speaker 3: you on a tour and walk you through everything. And
Speaker 3: I just saw everybody in the room and I saw Amy,
Speaker 3: and immediately I was like, I'm gonna catch up with you.
Speaker 3: I see you. I didn't know she was gonna be there,
Speaker 3: and I was like in my head, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, it's Amy, you know. And there was
Speaker 3: a couple other people I recognized later, but yeah, so
Speaker 3: I figured, you know, they being the audience, would love
Speaker 3: to hear like some of your kind of takes from
Speaker 3: you know, what went down, and not to mention, you've
Speaker 3: been to Monroe over twenty times. That's a lot. That's
Speaker 3: yeah awesome.
Speaker 4: Oh, I live like an hour and a half away,
Speaker 4: so I don't have to fly and just drive. It's
Speaker 4: really nice. Yeah, and it's interesting. The night before I
Speaker 4: went to that program, I was getting into bed and
Speaker 4: I literally had a thought Ryan's going to be there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you told me that.
Speaker 4: It just popped into my head, and so I knew
Speaker 4: you were going to be there when I showed up
Speaker 4: and I took a sneak peek at the list.
Speaker 3: Right. What was also Emily's roommate the first.
Speaker 4: Time, right, which is like, I was not your roommate though.
Speaker 3: But you did have a roommate and I didn't have
Speaker 3: a roommate. You lucked out there. But yeah, so what
Speaker 3: that was like your fifteenth trip to Monroe? And how
Speaker 3: many times did you done get Away At that point.
Speaker 4: I'd only done it once, so that this was my
Speaker 4: second time doing Gateway, and I planned to take it
Speaker 4: a third time.
Speaker 3: Really, do you have a favorite class of the ones
Speaker 3: that you've done or a favorite what do they call them? Course?
Speaker 4: So I would definitely take Heartline a second time and
Speaker 4: Exploration twenty seven, I would take a second time, and
Speaker 4: I just took Explanation twenty seven, like the week or
Speaker 4: two before Gateway.
Speaker 3: Well, what's that like? Explation twenty seven?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's have you been to twenty to focus
Speaker 4: twenty seven yet?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I don't. I didn't even know that
Speaker 4: was the thing. Yeah, it's incredible. It's my favorite, probably
Speaker 4: my favorite focus level. It's really expanded, you really expanded.
Speaker 4: So the first time I did it, they sort of
Speaker 4: like ramp you up for it. And there's a lot
Speaker 4: of really cool stuff there. They call it the Park
Speaker 4: and it has like a lot of places you can
Speaker 4: visit and I don't know how to describe it, but
Speaker 4: it's it's one of the places I have the most visuals.
Speaker 4: I can see very clearly there and do things and
Speaker 4: I personally see it as like as above, so below
Speaker 4: as within, so without like that, you can do things
Speaker 4: there and it will manifest here.
Speaker 3: Interesting. I know Emily did Focus twenty seven and it
Speaker 3: like completely rocked her world? Was that when you were her?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Twenty seven guys, Yeah, twenty seven is I mean,
Speaker 4: none of them are better or worse than the other.
Speaker 4: All the focus levels are just different. But it's one
Speaker 4: of my favorite places, and they don't even have it
Speaker 4: in the expand app for twenty seven. It's, you know, interesting,
Speaker 4: I have the special I don't know how to describe that.
Speaker 3: That is it like an advanced focus level or is
Speaker 3: that even a thing?
Speaker 4: Really well, I don't think they know. I don't think
Speaker 4: that like as advanced. I think it's a little more.
Speaker 4: And this is just my personal opinion about it.
Speaker 5: The park.
Speaker 4: The park, Yeah, yeah, read about.
Speaker 3: It, Okay. It says an afterlife area created by humans,
Speaker 3: often resembling physical Earth environments. Oh, I remember them talking
Speaker 3: about this. Many people inhabiting Focus twenty seven provide assistance
Speaker 3: to new arrivals for their adjustment to living in the afterlife.
Speaker 3: It is a highly organized and structured area. There are
Speaker 3: centers of activity here providing for the needs of human
Speaker 3: beings and their continuing development in the afterlife, such as education,
Speaker 3: life review, healing, and regeneration planning in many others. Interesting.
Speaker 3: So if I'm understanding this just based off my very
Speaker 3: limited experience there. When the way Monroe explans it, like
Speaker 3: when people die, you're kind of like potentially trapped in
Speaker 3: thought forms of like what you expected about death at
Speaker 3: the moment that you die. So sometimes I guess like
Speaker 3: the mind will create out of the body, will create
Speaker 3: like a scenario. I guess that kind of mirrors what
Speaker 3: you believed would happen when you die, simulated afterlife.
Speaker 4: I mean that's not Yeah, that sounds like something that
Speaker 4: they have said at Monroe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they said that at Gateway. But I'm just
Speaker 3: saying specifically about the park, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, so here's what's really cool about the park.
Speaker 4: I have, like you you can put things there and
Speaker 4: come back and visit them.
Speaker 3: Interesting and like what as.
Speaker 4: An example, like like I have my own little house there.
Speaker 4: Oh and everyone, like not everyone, but a lot of
Speaker 4: people describe it's very park like, you know, it's like
Speaker 4: green and everything. And mine's in a swamp. And so
Speaker 4: I told some people there and they're like, your yours
Speaker 4: isn't a swamp. Like everyone's like at this nice park,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I have like the shack at a
Speaker 4: swamp house in twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just a mental place that you go
Speaker 4: and cool. You can touch base with and.
Speaker 3: Kind of like the what is it called the Celestial
Speaker 3: Sanctum in Roe. Yeah, is that what it's called. It's
Speaker 3: like a mind palace kind of Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have always wanted to experience that because that
Speaker 6: sounds really incredible.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you think about it, it's like
Speaker 3: all the same thing. Yeah, you know, it's just like
Speaker 3: a different It's like, you know, you could practice karate,
Speaker 3: you could practice taekwondo, you could practice jiu jitsu, but
Speaker 3: it's all different flavors of it's all martial arts, it's
Speaker 3: all fighting. It's the same with this consciousness stuff, right,
Speaker 3: Like it's yeah, they're all hitting at the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's just like what what package do you like? It's
Speaker 3: different flavors, you know. Yeah, but it's very fascinating. So
Speaker 3: that is fast. I want to walk back a little
Speaker 3: bit before we get really deep into the Monroe thing.
Speaker 3: I also want to focus a little bit on like
Speaker 3: you and what what you do? You know, like what
Speaker 3: what I would describe you as, like a manifestation expert, Oh,
Speaker 3: thank you, right, manifestation wizard, a wizard. Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: say jedi, but that's kind of like she's already a
Speaker 3: Jedi with the Monroe thing. Manifestation swampstress.
Speaker 4: Well, I've been known to have been called magical amy
Speaker 4: before magical a magic amy yeah, okay, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: just a manifesting coach and I teach people how to manifest,
Speaker 4: especially the basics, and then you're not.
Speaker 3: Just a manifest you're being like really modest. So so
Speaker 3: how'd you get into it?
Speaker 4: Oh? My parents kind of knew about it, and so
Speaker 4: my dad started having out of body experiences when I
Speaker 4: was little girl, and so my path for that was
Speaker 4: created at that point. I was learning about that. He
Speaker 4: had Bob and Rose books, and then my mom she
Speaker 4: her brother trained with If I'm not mistaken, Jack Canfield.
Speaker 4: I don't know who's the chicken soup for the soup guy,
Speaker 4: chicken suit for the soul guy.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they trained together, but they trained
Speaker 4: under the same guy who was this big manifesting guy
Speaker 4: back in the seventies or eighties or something like that.
Speaker 4: So my mom and dad got this information from my
Speaker 4: mom's brother, but they only applied manifesting for business and
Speaker 4: sales and money. They didn't they didn't apply it to
Speaker 4: anything else. So there were these books laying around my
Speaker 4: house when I was a kid, and I would pick
Speaker 4: them up and you know, I just started thinking, well,
Speaker 4: why don't we apply it to everything else, Like why are.
Speaker 3: We all it's like those manifesting money books like that
Speaker 3: kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, stuff like that, And it was very action oriented.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of like, you know, action stuff
Speaker 4: involved in that. But so I started experimenting with it,
Speaker 4: especially in college, just writing and journaling and being like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I want to see if I can manifest this, and
Speaker 4: things would happen and they would happen fast, and then
Speaker 4: I wanted to understand how it worked, right, And that's
Speaker 4: where as soon as you try to understand how it worked,
Speaker 4: you're like you sort of like go down your success rate.
Speaker 4: Plummet's for a second.
Speaker 6: Is that when we were talking about falling asleep, Like
Speaker 6: if you think about falling asleep, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I imagine like between where you started with
Speaker 3: your whole like path to you know, when I think
Speaker 3: of you as as young Amy, like just finding out
Speaker 3: about manifesting, you're like, this is so cool, and you're
Speaker 3: like the rest of us who are like I want
Speaker 3: to manifest something, but you don't really have that, like
Speaker 3: you can't really touch the experience of it. And then
Speaker 3: where you are now is you know, you're on the
Speaker 3: other side and you're like, oh, yeah, this is this
Speaker 3: is without a doubt, like we were talking about it
Speaker 3: this morning, like this, I have the knowing like it
Speaker 3: is real, it is possible. You've had a lifetime of
Speaker 3: experiences that have proven to you that it works. What
Speaker 3: I'm curious to know is like what that process was
Speaker 3: like as you were going on this journey, what things
Speaker 3: if and you know, you don't have to go into
Speaker 3: private things, but like what things began to unfold to
Speaker 3: where you began to realize without a doubt, this stuff
Speaker 3: is true, this stuff is possible. We do have these abilities,
Speaker 3: Like there had to be something that pushed you deeper
Speaker 3: into this path, right yeah.
Speaker 4: I think most people who come to manifesting are trying
Speaker 4: to get something they can't get their hands around otherwise,
Speaker 4: so they start a deeper search into how can I
Speaker 4: do this? And it's usually something that's possible, but for
Speaker 4: some reason they're struggling with it. So I I was
Speaker 4: working on a lot of different things, but the big
Speaker 4: shift for me was from a one universe to like
Speaker 4: a multiverse parallel reality perspective, and I really was listening
Speaker 4: to Bushar and his information around that time, and I
Speaker 4: just started applying the information and I already knew how
Speaker 4: to manifest. I was already really good at it. But
Speaker 4: that really was a game changer for me to realize
Speaker 4: everything exists here right now. You know, the idea that
Speaker 4: creation is finished. It's all accessible right here, just on
Speaker 4: different The best way to describe it as like different frequencies,
Speaker 4: like radio waves. So right now, we could get a
Speaker 4: radio and we could tune it to one channel and
Speaker 4: we could hear what's streaming on it, but at the
Speaker 4: same time, all these other channels are broadcasting. And that's
Speaker 4: what manifesting is. It's like you're not creating something out
Speaker 4: of nowhere. You're just tuning your mind to a different
Speaker 4: channel by thinking in advance about it and doing different things,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you tap into it and
Speaker 4: you're on that frequency. Frequency is not the right word exactly,
Speaker 4: but it may explain it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense, like when you say frequency. That's
Speaker 3: very fascinating. And we've been talking about this today, but
Speaker 3: you know, the guys weren't here for this conversation. You
Speaker 3: were telling me about how you know you really do
Speaker 3: understand that we can shift into parallel versions of our reality,
Speaker 3: and I'm curious to hear like more about that, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, my mind is like, how is this possible? Well, okay,
Speaker 3: maybe I know it's possible, but it's like, how can
Speaker 3: I know that this is possible? Right? So you know
Speaker 3: you actually believe that we can shift into parallel reality?
Speaker 4: Oh, I know we can.
Speaker 3: You know, we can't see this.
Speaker 4: So one thing I do like to always say to
Speaker 4: listeners and anyone who's you know, interested in this topic,
Speaker 4: as it's very difficult for anyone to prove it to you.
Speaker 3: Right, you you.
Speaker 4: Experiment for yourself, you have the experience, and then you
Speaker 4: know it. Right, it's firsthand experience. So I took that leap,
Speaker 4: and I was I intended for it. I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, I want to see what this is like.
Speaker 4: I had a theory about it, and I was listening
Speaker 4: to Bashar's information. I followed his instructions at that time,
Speaker 4: and suddenly I was experiencing things that didn't line up
Speaker 4: with my previous reality.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was significant enough to be noticeable, not
Speaker 4: something like oh, we don't remember having the same conversation yesterday.
Speaker 4: It was it was things that were drastically different, very quickly.
Speaker 6: Enough for you to be like, this is strange. It's
Speaker 6: not tiny little minor things. It's correct some somewhat significant things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, things that I was like, Wow, that was totally different,
Speaker 4: like an hour ago or yesterday, and could it have
Speaker 4: been done that fast? And so you know, But I
Speaker 4: had multiple experiences within about a two year timeframe. I
Speaker 4: just went I just kept going forwark like I want
Speaker 4: to know, I want to see, and then I started experiencing.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you'll shift with people and you'll have the same memory,
Speaker 4: but only like two of you will have the same memory,
Speaker 4: no one else does. Other times you'll I've even had
Speaker 4: an experience with someone who does this and she's.
Speaker 3: What do you mean she does this?
Speaker 4: She knows how to shift realities?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: Does it intentionally?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And she's a really good manifestor. This was like
Speaker 4: over ten years ago, and we started talking about something
Speaker 4: that we had talked about many, many, many many times,
Speaker 4: not once. We had twenty thirty forty conversations about this thing. Wow,
Speaker 4: and our memories were no longer in sync. And it
Speaker 4: wasn't just that we were remembering the conversation wrong. The
Speaker 4: entire scenario was completely different, no way, And I was
Speaker 4: explaining to her, I'm like, your scenario was like this,
Speaker 4: and she goes, it's never been like that. It's always
Speaker 4: been like this, And we were, you know, very honest
Speaker 4: with each other and we were like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: Like we've moved into different realities. So there's all this
Speaker 4: like weird stuff that starts to happen. And one of
Speaker 4: the best ways to have this experience, if you want,
Speaker 4: is just to intend for it. And the first couple
Speaker 4: times it's pretty gentle. You know, there's been nothing, there's
Speaker 4: nothing horrible has ever happens. I've never had a horrible
Speaker 4: experience with it, but it can be at first you're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's pretty interesting, and then you have another one, and
Speaker 4: then another one, and then all of a sudden you're
Speaker 4: just like, oh, okay, yeah, this is a totally different
Speaker 4: target than the one I was at yesterday.
Speaker 6: You know, like, is it like ramping up in intensity
Speaker 6: as you're experiencing this.
Speaker 3: For the first few.
Speaker 4: Times, it's more like noticeable, Yeah, ramps up in noticeability.
Speaker 4: And then I mean sometimes it's been super trippy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I've experienced things like this in
Speaker 6: my life where it's like, no, we've talked about this before.
Speaker 6: I know it was this thing, and all of a
Speaker 6: sudden it's different. My whole life, I've known something is different.
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about like the what's it called the
Speaker 6: Mendel effect whatever that's going to ask about that, that's
Speaker 6: a different thing. But I mean kind of the same also,
Speaker 6: but i mean things with my personal life. So I'm
Speaker 6: really fascinated by this and the thought that you could
Speaker 6: like train yourself to do it.
Speaker 4: Well, I actually I'm very excited now when it happens,
Speaker 4: because I know a lot of times when I'm manifesting
Speaker 4: something that is a signal to me that I've shifted
Speaker 4: into a reality where it's more accessible to me or
Speaker 4: it's easier for me to get Oh yeah. So sometimes
Speaker 4: I'm on the I had three the other day. I
Speaker 4: was I was like, oh, three three things in one day.
Speaker 4: Like there is a a pharmacy right near my house,
Speaker 4: and I drove by and then they like had pulled
Speaker 4: the signs down and closed the doors and it's like gone,
Speaker 4: I mean the building is there, but it's and then
Speaker 4: this is like overnight, and I'm like, okay, well I
Speaker 4: guess they could do that overnight, but you know, I
Speaker 4: was just in there. It's really strange, like no big deal.
Speaker 4: So then I go to the mall and I had
Speaker 4: just been there, and I walk in the store and
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, this was clothing for women. Now there's
Speaker 4: like teenager clothing in here. And I went up to
Speaker 4: the to the lady. I'm like, when did you guys
Speaker 4: open She's like, oh, we just opened the other day.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I was just in here and it
Speaker 4: was a different store, like completely fully functioning, like and
Speaker 4: then I don't remember what the third thing was, but.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's kind of crazy. Is it like feel creepy
Speaker 3: at all? Or eerie?
Speaker 4: There's always there's always like an explanation because what happens
Speaker 4: is when you move to the new reality, there is
Speaker 4: a different history.
Speaker 6: Right, It's not like just the present is different, the
Speaker 6: entire history of that reality is also different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my sense tells me that this is like possible
Speaker 3: for everybody, just like you know, seeing the lights is
Speaker 3: possible for everybody, or meditating and going out of body
Speaker 3: as possible for everybody, and may even potentially happen unconsciously
Speaker 3: for many people. But I feel like when you seek
Speaker 3: these higher levels of the spiritual path, like you know,
Speaker 3: for example, you being a manifestor we've been talking about
Speaker 3: this for two days now since you've been here. It's
Speaker 3: like obviously a very like what we do in our
Speaker 3: fields is it has such a big overlap, and you know,
Speaker 3: immersing yourself in the manifesting world is such a very
Speaker 3: blatantly deeply spiritual thing that you kind of like are
Speaker 3: going down this path of like like you were telling
Speaker 3: me this morning, this awareness. It's like the more you
Speaker 3: have these synchronicities, the more you have these shifts in
Speaker 3: your reality, it's like your awareness is increasing. Right, I
Speaker 3: feel like the deeper you go on this path, it
Speaker 3: has to be likely that you could maybe consciously do
Speaker 3: this more. What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, well that is what I'm working on in
Speaker 4: this lifetime is just how far can I go with
Speaker 4: it consciously?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And people come to me all the time and then
Speaker 4: they're like, I really want to manifest this, but can
Speaker 4: I do it deliberately? I'm like, yep, But can I
Speaker 4: do it on purpose?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 4: But can I do it while I'm aware? Like can
Speaker 4: I try to fall asleep on purpose? Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 4: can't because they're worried, like, you know, if I try
Speaker 4: to do it on purpose, is that going to interfere?
Speaker 4: But it's I think one of the fun things about
Speaker 4: this particular physical reality is we get to wake up
Speaker 4: to that and find out that we can do this more.
Speaker 4: It's like being on autopilot and then all of a
Speaker 4: sudden you're like, oh, I can drive a car. I
Speaker 4: can drive it manly. Oh I can go faster, Oh
Speaker 4: I can go slower, And then realizing you can have
Speaker 4: the conscious control over something that you just sort of
Speaker 4: woke up to one day and you're like, oh, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm alive. I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so I'm sure that comes with like a
Speaker 6: lot of practice and training yourself and remembering the feeling
Speaker 6: of doing it. And because when you tell me about
Speaker 6: what I've heard about the focused levels in Monroe, it's like,
Speaker 6: once you learn a focused level, you can kind of
Speaker 6: remember the feeling of it and access it again quicker
Speaker 6: or you know, not maybe not maybe not like instantly,
Speaker 6: I don't know how it works, but that it's like
Speaker 6: an instant like you feel you remember the feeling of
Speaker 6: it and.
Speaker 3: You can be in tune with it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, okay, that's a good way to put it
Speaker 6: in tune with it. So doing those kinds of things
Speaker 6: intentionally is really kind of magical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's It's something that I want to get. I
Speaker 3: really want to want to try to be able to
Speaker 3: do something like well, we're on the path. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, we got to wait out the three D
Speaker 3: daily life part of it until you know our time.
Speaker 3: I'm really we did say this on an episode before,
Speaker 3: but we are having a creation station come up for
Speaker 3: the BSS group, so it'll be in December and we
Speaker 3: get to have a little private Monroe experience virtually. But
Speaker 3: you know, back to your metaphor about like first you're
Speaker 3: on autopilot and then you're driving the car consciously, right metaphor,
Speaker 3: it is great, Yeah, but then I'll take you one
Speaker 3: step further. The more you consciously drive the car, you
Speaker 3: get so good and so comfortable with it that now
Speaker 3: you can drive at that higher level.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I actually tell I was doing a live for
Speaker 4: some of my Instagram subscribers last week, I think, and
Speaker 4: I told them that I'm like, you know, if you
Speaker 4: want to level up with your money or an area
Speaker 4: of your life that you've been struggling with. It's on autopilot.
Speaker 4: You have to take it off of autopilot and manually
Speaker 4: drive it, and you're going to sort of suck at
Speaker 4: it at first, and then when you master that area,
Speaker 4: put it back on autopilot.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Wow, auto pilot works for you, against you, and for
Speaker 4: you because it's it's neutral, it doesn't it Just you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that seems like what my experience was moving here.
Speaker 6: I had been like focusing and manifesting that not maybe
Speaker 6: sometimes intentionally and others not so intentionally. Uh, And when
Speaker 6: it finally happened, it was like the most out of nowhere,
Speaker 6: this can't be real. It felt like a reality shift,
Speaker 6: and maybe it was.
Speaker 3: I mean it definitely.
Speaker 6: We have actually, like jokingly said a few times, like,
Speaker 6: this is a different reality.
Speaker 3: It's a different life completely for all of us. It is.
Speaker 3: And it was very, very very hard at first for
Speaker 3: a while, and just recently it's getting to the point
Speaker 3: where I feel like I can put it back on
Speaker 3: autopilot and just ride it. Yeah, but for a while
Speaker 3: it was it was tough, dude. You know, that was
Speaker 3: like a reality shift, because like three weeks after you
Speaker 3: moved here. I bought a house and moved to We
Speaker 3: literally we literally uprooted our lives at the same time.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, you know, like it was a shift for
Speaker 3: our whole group.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So hearing talking about shifting realities, I kind of
Speaker 6: I believe it.
Speaker 4: Well, I want to say to one of the most
Speaker 4: interesting ones I had recently. It was in March or April,
Speaker 4: because I think sometimes people will hear like, oh, the
Speaker 4: store changed, and even when it happens, you're like, well,
Speaker 4: that could have happened, but it just seems like out
Speaker 4: of nowhere, right, You're not expecting it, there's no nothing
Speaker 4: leading up to it, and just boom. So I was
Speaker 4: sitting this was this was really trippy for me. I
Speaker 4: was sitting in my living room and I could see
Speaker 4: out my front window and my neighbor has a like
Speaker 4: five year old granddaughter and she was visiting. And I
Speaker 4: saw them come out the front door of the house
Speaker 4: and walk down the sidewalk. And I don't know what
Speaker 4: caused me to do it, but like a minute later,
Speaker 4: I looked up and I saw them come out the
Speaker 4: front door and walk down the sidewalk, and they never
Speaker 4: walked back because I could see like out of my
Speaker 4: vision there and I was like, what was that, you know,
Speaker 4: like what and she was holding this little bunny rabbit
Speaker 4: thing under her arm, this little stuffed animal, and I
Speaker 4: remember thinking like it was they were walking in the
Speaker 4: same position. It was super trippy.
Speaker 6: That's literally like the glitch in The Matrix. Ye scene
Speaker 6: with the cat, And.
Speaker 3: That's her favorite movie too, it is. We woke up
Speaker 3: this morning, we had our cup of coffee, and we
Speaker 3: sat there and we just talked all about this stuff,
Speaker 3: and like we we kind of figured out like she
Speaker 3: wrote up The Matrix. I was like, that's my favorite movie.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite movie, and you know, we were relating
Speaker 3: to everything about The Matrix.
Speaker 6: But I still haven't been able to bring myself to
Speaker 6: watch the fourth one.
Speaker 4: Oh it's so good.
Speaker 3: Is it really? Honestly the newest one? I think you should.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's different than the other ones, and but I
Speaker 4: really liked it. I'm also deeply romantic.
Speaker 3: So what I feel that I feel that I'm full disclosure.
Speaker 3: I didn't like it, but I don't think that that
Speaker 3: like means you know that that you shouldn't watch it.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I have my specific reasons for not liking it, but
Speaker 3: I think it deserves a watch.
Speaker 4: It deserves it deserves a watch.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in a different it has a different feel
Speaker 4: to it than the other ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whether or made like twenty years apart. You know,
Speaker 3: I've always heard people say, like, oh, only the first
Speaker 3: Matrix is good, the other two, or I love I
Speaker 3: love the whole trilogy, every single one of them. I
Speaker 3: love each one better than the last one. Yeah, not really,
Speaker 3: no specific order. I love them all equally. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: love them all. First one's my favorite, of course, just
Speaker 3: because it was so groundbreaking. But I love two and
Speaker 3: three bro. But four, Yeah, I don't want to even
Speaker 3: go intoy. I don't like it because you should watch it.
Speaker 3: You should see it for yourself, just based off of
Speaker 3: your recommendation. It's nostalgia. Yeah, yeah, it's nostalgia for sure.
Speaker 3: It's worth a watch.
Speaker 4: It is definitely worth a watch. And like I said,
Speaker 4: I'm romantic, and it has I mean, I know there's
Speaker 4: like the love story of them anyway, but it has
Speaker 4: it's I don't know, it's more romantic.
Speaker 3: I love it. Like the tone of the movie.
Speaker 4: The tone of the movie.
Speaker 3: I love that. That's a little bit it's not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta watch it to see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: But it's not like they're like la la la la.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: But you know, like you know, the theme of it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've always, ever since I was a kid, I
Speaker 6: have had this like connection with those movies, and I've
Speaker 6: always wanted some of those concepts to be real things,
Speaker 6: And so growing up and learning about the stuff that
Speaker 6: we talk about on this show, I'm like, oh, a
Speaker 6: lot of it is, like a lot of it actually is,
Speaker 6: like that movie is an allegory for a lot of
Speaker 6: the things that we talk about, manifestation, shifting realities.
Speaker 3: Also just like the fact that we're in a simulation.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, maybe it's a spiritual simulation, but
Speaker 3: it's still i mean, it's not robots on the other side,
Speaker 3: Like Plato said, it was a cave. It's always something
Speaker 3: all the Mystery Schools said, you know, it was a
Speaker 3: Remember I got tickled when you said that word at
Speaker 3: lunch today.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Mystery Schools.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's something we talk about a lot on
Speaker 3: the show. But we were talking this morning, we were
Speaker 3: having our coffee. I'm just like, sitting there just asking
Speaker 3: her all these questions, you know, and something that she
Speaker 3: was telling me that was really blowing my mind, and
Speaker 3: I'd love to get your take on this and how
Speaker 3: you came to this understanding, Amy, But she was telling
Speaker 3: me like something you know, is almost twelve hours ago
Speaker 3: at this point, because it was this morning. I can't pair.
Speaker 3: I can only paraphrase, but she said something to the
Speaker 3: effect of like, the more you become aware, you know,
Speaker 3: you start to manifest things, you start to kind of
Speaker 3: get that proof that reality can be altered, you shift
Speaker 3: into parallel realities. The more this happened, she's like, you
Speaker 3: you eventually kind of awaken to the truth. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: what's the truth to you? What's the truth? And she's like, well,
Speaker 3: it's you know, we're kind of in a simulation, it is.
Speaker 6: And I was like, the only explanation, it's the only
Speaker 6: thing that makes sense. Nothing else makes sense to me. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's like a no. I would almost want to say test,
Speaker 6: but it's like that sounds kind of formal and a
Speaker 6: little intimidating, but it kind of is like a quote
Speaker 6: unquote test.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, but it's almost it's more like it's more
Speaker 3: like god, god quote unquote, just consciousness in general is
Speaker 3: like creating a simulation for it self to experience itself,
Speaker 3: and we are itself, yes, exactly, to experience itself through
Speaker 3: infinite different lenses kind of thing. And that's like so
Speaker 3: hard to explain. It's hard to like comprehend. Well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: let alone explain.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but thought transmission really leans into that. We were
Speaker 4: talking last night in the live oh yeah about the
Speaker 4: bubble gun, and so something that does happen for me
Speaker 4: at Monroe when I'm there is, you know, because we're
Speaker 4: in similar energies with other people. We're in that group
Speaker 4: setting and people are sharing, we're debriefing after our meditations,
Speaker 4: you'll often find out that it's very easy to share thoughts,
Speaker 4: to share images, And to me, that is like that
Speaker 4: one consciousness, like we're all really connected and I think
Speaker 4: this is just my best guess. The reason more people
Speaker 4: aren't aware of that on a bigger level is because
Speaker 4: we don't share our thoughts. Yeah, like with the person
Speaker 4: at the grocery store. You know, we're not like, haven't
Speaker 4: a thought about the person and then we tell them.
Speaker 4: We're like we keep it to ourselves. Whereas when we
Speaker 4: go there and we are sharing, we're actually courage to share,
Speaker 4: We're encouraged to share, and it's a safe environment for that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you almost like kind of sync up a
Speaker 6: little bit in a way.
Speaker 3: A lot of it, A lot of way, a lot
Speaker 3: of it because it's part of the program. Right, you
Speaker 3: go through the it's like this again, I haven't done
Speaker 3: it virtual, but you've done virtual, right, I've done too
Speaker 3: virtually there is it pretty similar to the schedule. Uh,
Speaker 3: you're done by six, right, but I mean like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's meditation, debrief thing like that. Okay, So it's like
Speaker 3: we do the meditations obviously separately, and then it's like
Speaker 3: as soon as that's over, okay, everybody meet up, let's
Speaker 3: talk about it. And everybody's like, you know, non judgmental,
Speaker 3: like everybody's sharing what happened. And by the end of
Speaker 3: the week, everyone's like, dude, I saw you. You had
Speaker 3: a message for me. Amy's like I saw you. We
Speaker 3: were chasing a car and I'm I'm like, holy shit, Marco,
Speaker 3: I saw your face, dude, and you had a message
Speaker 3: for me. And it's like everybody's kind of connecting and
Speaker 3: it's like as it goes on the more, everybody kind
Speaker 3: of meshes together, and then by the end of it,
Speaker 3: we're all out, you know, kind of dancing by the crystal.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we didn't tell the bubble gun story yet,
Speaker 4: did we not on the show. So we actually have recording.
Speaker 4: This has been recorded. I don't know if anyone's released
Speaker 4: it yet, but this is when we had all of
Speaker 4: our cameras up during the debrief, so like some people.
Speaker 3: Have it recorded, so then I have it recorded.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't even got a chance.
Speaker 3: Me that we recorded the debrief because I forgot.
Speaker 4: I think I forgot to.
Speaker 3: I forgot. Actually I can use that somehow.
Speaker 4: So when we were there at Monroe, like normally, I
Speaker 4: just want to say, in case you're interested in going
Speaker 4: to Monroe to the audience, there isn't that doesn't happen.
Speaker 4: There's not recording and people aren't taking photos of you.
Speaker 4: So you do have your privacy, right.
Speaker 3: I have done a three part series explained like explaining
Speaker 3: like this is the first time ever people do not
Speaker 3: come here and record. This is not a thing. This
Speaker 3: was a special exception. Yea, it is totally private.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so that's why we forgot we recorded it.
Speaker 4: And so Ignacio had come into one of my meditations
Speaker 4: and handed me a note and he didn't tell me nothing.
Speaker 4: He didn't say a word about it. And as soon
Speaker 4: as I came out of it, I walked up to him,
Speaker 4: I'm like, you came into my meditation, I handed me
Speaker 4: a note and he goes yes, like yeah, yeah, I know,
Speaker 4: I know you did. And then he had gotten it.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he got like a in meditation,
Speaker 4: but he decided he wanted me to say the word
Speaker 4: bubble gum.
Speaker 3: But he didn't tell her that. He didn't tell me.
Speaker 3: He didn't sending it out there. I want Amy to
Speaker 3: say bubble gum right.
Speaker 4: Like as an experiment, and he did it towards I
Speaker 4: think the beginning of the week. And I mean, I
Speaker 4: was not going to say that word, but there was that.
Speaker 4: There was no reason for me to say bubble gum.
Speaker 4: I you know. And what's super fascinating is we're recording
Speaker 4: only we only recorded one debrief, right. It happened to
Speaker 4: be this one, and we were talking about it. And
Speaker 4: I had brought a blowing bubbles bubble gun and this
Speaker 4: battery operated and I had mentioned it to him and
Speaker 4: I said the word bubble, and so he finally told me,
Speaker 4: He's like, well, I was trying to get you say
Speaker 4: bubble gum, but bubbles enough. So we're talking about it
Speaker 4: in the group, to the whole group, and we me
Speaker 4: and now so didn't even realize I was saying bubble
Speaker 4: gun one and he was in bubble gum. Like someone
Speaker 4: else pointed it out.
Speaker 3: And you guys didn't. Good weeks later, like like just
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, like from today, it's been almost
Speaker 3: three months now, just a few weeks ago. Sean Webb.
Speaker 3: That's the mind hacking Happiness author.
Speaker 4: We have his book.
Speaker 3: He texted in the group, he was like, bubble gun,
Speaker 3: bubble gum. You guys realize this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Months later, Yeah, that is so awesome.
Speaker 4: And here's what So, here's what's so fascinating about it. I,
Speaker 4: like you said, I've been to Monroe a bunch of times.
Speaker 4: I have never once thought to bring a bubble gum?
Speaker 4: Why would I do that? And I, for some reason
Speaker 4: was like packing and I saw it. I had not
Speaker 4: even looked at it in a year, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: let me put this in my back. Is a great idea.
Speaker 4: And then one afternoon I was like let me go
Speaker 4: blow some bubbles and I don't know because we were
Speaker 4: filming content and I thought maybe I could do something
Speaker 4: with that, and then I realized, oh, it needs batteries.
Speaker 4: So I had to go find the staff and be like,
Speaker 4: do you have any batteries? And they pulled them out
Speaker 4: of a clock and I mean it was like a
Speaker 4: whole ordeal. Yeah, and for him to then be like
Speaker 4: trying to get me to say a bubble gum right,
Speaker 4: it was super strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like, it's it's crazy when you think
Speaker 3: about like how we were all sending these ideas out
Speaker 3: to each other. Like I can't I'm gonna tell the story.
Speaker 3: I cannot remember which one in the group told me story,
Speaker 3: and maybe I can find out if I probe the
Speaker 3: group later. But someone was telling me that they had
Speaker 3: worked with another person that was in our group, and
Speaker 3: they were like, I want to see you. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Let me let me walk it back. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take a step back. I remember now here, I
Speaker 3: remember who it was. I'm rewinding. Okay, So Chris has
Speaker 3: a friend named Nelson. Yeah, Nelson was supposed to be
Speaker 3: at our group.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he went later.
Speaker 3: Yes, he went a week later. His name is Nelson Dallas.
Speaker 3: He is an amazing guy and we're like in communication
Speaker 3: with each other. And he's a brilliant individual. He's like
Speaker 3: literally five time uh five time champion in the US
Speaker 3: of like memory competitions. Like, he is a brilliant guy.
Speaker 3: And you know, Chris is a magician bottom so I'm
Speaker 3: not on the list. I'm on a different list. But no, no,
Speaker 3: he's he's a brilliant guy. You know, Chris is a magician,
Speaker 3: so he he has all these That's club you know,
Speaker 3: you have that magician mentalism memory that he has all
Speaker 3: these kinds of different people in these different fields. And
Speaker 3: and and Nelson reached out to me because he knew
Speaker 3: about me because Chris and I were there together. So
Speaker 3: he watched our series. He went the week after and
Speaker 3: then he watched our series. Cool, So he messaged me
Speaker 3: and we got on a phone call. We got to
Speaker 3: talking and he was like, dude, I didn't experiment there.
Speaker 3: You might not know this story. He was like, I
Speaker 3: didn't experiment there with another person who obviously I don't know,
Speaker 3: in the group. And he was like, and we had
Speaker 3: the idea I want to see you in your room
Speaker 3: when we're meditating, if you want to write something down
Speaker 3: on a piece of papers And Nelson was like, I
Speaker 3: want to try to or she was like, read my paper, right, dude,
Speaker 3: I don't remember the numbers. But she put like a
Speaker 3: little sticky note on her desk and wrote a sequence
Speaker 3: of numbers. He told me the numbers. Obviously I cannot
Speaker 3: remember the numbers.
Speaker 4: Oh they just posted this, did they. It is Nelson, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I just heard the story Nelson. Yeah, he posted something
Speaker 4: about it the other day.
Speaker 3: It was a really cool hearing read when he was
Speaker 3: out of body, right, he read every single number, but
Speaker 3: the last number was blurry. Yeah, and he shouted and
Speaker 3: not shouted. He stated the sequence to her after the
Speaker 3: meditation and she was like, dude, oh my god, that
Speaker 3: was it. But the last number was blurry.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The remote viewing stuff, it was particularly mind blowing to
Speaker 3: me because I've never I don't think I've ever experienced that,
Speaker 3: and it just sounds like so wid you know, he
Speaker 3: saw the clutter on her desk, like specifically the way
Speaker 3: it was arranged and everything.
Speaker 4: I took remote viewing a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 4: I think it was in early twenty twenty and I
Speaker 4: was able to teach my family how to do it
Speaker 4: in like twenty minutes after that and they all hit
Speaker 4: the target. It was astona. We all have that ability.
Speaker 4: It's it's so easy. You just have to know what
Speaker 4: it is and how to do it. And then it's
Speaker 4: mind boggling.
Speaker 5: How I have I have twenty minutes?
Speaker 4: I will you can? We can use a random generator,
Speaker 4: our picture generator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it is. It's very easy. And it's like
Speaker 3: the only reason it would be hard is because if
Speaker 3: you like inject out. Sure, Yeah, it's like everyone has
Speaker 3: the you.
Speaker 6: Have the ability, the ability, and the potential to do
Speaker 6: it as long as you're not like getting in the way,
Speaker 6: like getting in your own way.
Speaker 4: It's being really open and something that I love about
Speaker 4: the Monroe Institute is it is a space where you
Speaker 4: go and they offer these like programs and sound signals
Speaker 4: and these wonderful trainers and you get to have your
Speaker 4: own experience. They don't tell you what you're going to experience,
Speaker 4: and they don't front load you on stuff.
Speaker 3: They don't tell you anything that's going to happen. They
Speaker 3: just explain you're the practice, you're gonna do. This is
Speaker 3: why this is possible. And they kind of educate you,
Speaker 3: like they'll show you like scientific videos on the brain
Speaker 3: and how you know how brain waves work like that.
Speaker 3: They'll like they'll tell you the why they do not
Speaker 3: tell you the what like purposefully right, intentionally yes, as
Speaker 3: to not front. That's why we have debriefs, Yeah, because
Speaker 3: then it's like, what did you see? Right? You know
Speaker 3: what I tell you afterwards?
Speaker 4: Yes, well yeah, and that's interesting. Is that's why I'm
Speaker 4: not saying much about focus twenty seven, right, I don't
Speaker 4: want to front, like a good call makes other than
Speaker 4: my swampshack.
Speaker 3: And you know my house is across the street from
Speaker 3: a swamp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you told me. You told me there's turtles over there.
Speaker 4: And so if you're ever in twenty seven, please come
Speaker 4: to my swampshack.
Speaker 3: It's open for it sounds awesome.
Speaker 4: It has no furniture in it as a trap door what. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's really weird. It has a trap door mine, and
Speaker 4: it's like I can open it and go to the
Speaker 4: center of the earth and like like a trampoline and anyway,
Speaker 4: that sounds awesome.
Speaker 3: Alex bringing not yeah mine, Yeah, like a party at
Speaker 3: the shack. Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: Gosh, what were we talking about?
Speaker 3: Your trapdoor?
Speaker 4: Is there?
Speaker 3: That says Amy's trap door? Just twenty seven in general?
Speaker 4: Just no, it's just like a it's almost like a
Speaker 4: it's not very big. It's this one room. It's about
Speaker 4: the size of this room actually, And but it reminds
Speaker 4: me of like a fishing shack where they go sit
Speaker 4: over the ice. Except I do have a wood floor,
Speaker 4: thank god, and it's not cold and I and I
Speaker 4: go in there and it's just empty, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 4: I should put some big furniture, a mental furniture in
Speaker 4: her or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I do have a map on the wall, which
Speaker 4: was added, but.
Speaker 3: A map of what.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was working on a manifestation and in twenty seven,
Speaker 4: and so I was mapping it. And so apparently when
Speaker 4: I go in there, my my mind projects a map
Speaker 4: of what it looks like. It kind of looks like
Speaker 4: an elabyrinth sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a crazy little synchronicity that Amy and
Speaker 3: I shared today. First off all, let me say that again.
Speaker 4: First the ball. First of all, yes.
Speaker 3: I feel like we've been having a lot of synchronicities.
Speaker 3: Whether you've noticed it, or not.
Speaker 4: Oh, we had a time.
Speaker 3: We have seen the number thirty three everywhere? Yeah, like everywhere.
Speaker 3: And I won't go into why that was specifically I
Speaker 3: told you guys last night, but you know, maybe it's
Speaker 3: private information, but I'm not going to go into why
Speaker 3: that was like immediately significant between me and Amy. But
Speaker 3: license plates, we saw three or four of them on
Speaker 3: the road today.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I hit thirty three thousands followers on Instagram yesterday,
Speaker 4: like right when on the road.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she hit what is the Instagram? Well, we're talking
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's illuminating joy.
Speaker 3: In the YouTube and the YouTube yeah, and I just
Speaker 3: said that at the thirty third second. Noh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But so before I had my dream about you guys,
Speaker 5: I was eating Nacho's watching Bob's Burger's and just the
Speaker 5: next chronological one that was in the queue and in
Speaker 5: the show, they walk out into the street and the
Speaker 5: address of the place that they're in front of is
Speaker 5: three three three, Come.
Speaker 6: On, And then he had a dream about y'all who
Speaker 6: have been having synchronicity seen thirty three everywhere?
Speaker 3: What's happening? Well, dude, like that's crazy because she was
Speaker 3: at like thirty two point, like nine thousand followers on
Speaker 3: the road. And then she gets here and I had
Speaker 3: thirty three and she had Yeah, she had thirty three.
Speaker 3: And it's just like there's there's a couple other things.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it's like, you.
Speaker 4: Know, oh, the Labyrinth, the Labyrinth movie.
Speaker 3: Oh, the Labyrinth movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we're at the beach today looking for seashells and stuff,
Speaker 3: and she go, why did you even bring up Labyrinth?
Speaker 4: How did it come up?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Well, I just posted about it recently.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I know what you said. You said,
Speaker 3: I'm like the little.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right. I was picking up seashell and what's
Speaker 4: his name? I was holding this huge pile of them
Speaker 4: in my hands, Hoggle?
Speaker 3: How gets Hoggle?
Speaker 4: And I was like, I'm like the little guy from
Speaker 4: Labyrinth with his bubbles.
Speaker 3: Like and I was like, dude, you have no idea.
Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, I just watched Labyrinth for the first time.
Speaker 3: Remember we talked, right, Yeah, because Emily was here. Amy
Speaker 3: and Emily they couldn't line up to be here together.
Speaker 3: When we were growing up as kids. Emily's like literal
Speaker 3: favorite movie was The Labyrinth. And you know, I'm three
Speaker 3: years older, so I would you know, walk by, and
Speaker 3: I'd kind of tease her, like this movie is stupid.
Speaker 3: It looks, you know, like.
Speaker 4: Way dancing is not stupid.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I was like, I was like a
Speaker 3: fifteen year old boy watching like anime and you know,
Speaker 3: martial art stuff. So I was like, this is weird.
Speaker 3: And I'd be walking by. She's watched it hundreds of
Speaker 3: times and I thought it was so ridiculous. And two
Speaker 3: weeks ago she was here and she was like, I
Speaker 3: want to watch The Labyrinth with you, and I was like,
Speaker 3: let's turn it on. And I loved it, you know,
Speaker 3: I really loved it, and I thought it was hilarious
Speaker 3: and it was just kind of this like wholesome thing
Speaker 3: between me and my sister. I finally watched The Labyrinth
Speaker 3: with her, and that's like one of her favorite movies too.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's just Labyrinth, but that's okay.
Speaker 4: Let him know that's okay. I call it the Target.
Speaker 3: I'm illuminating shame. I know, you gotta start on Instagram's
Speaker 3: pictures of me frowning.
Speaker 4: No, but I do want to say I posted about it.
Speaker 4: I think it was last week for my subscribers on
Speaker 4: Instagram because I was talking about taking your power back
Speaker 4: from circumstances, from beliefs, fears, the past, things that you're
Speaker 4: when you're manifesting, because these things we think they have power,
Speaker 4: but they don't. And one of my I was doing
Speaker 4: a live and one of the people was like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's like Labyrinth at the end of the movie, and
Speaker 4: so I was posting about that. But yeah, it's like,
Speaker 4: you have no power over me. So that's something that
Speaker 4: I use frequently because I love that movie.
Speaker 3: That movie was so occult. Do we didn't even talk
Speaker 3: about that. Her dogs Her dog's name was Merlin, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've seen the movie once. Was it a while ago?
Speaker 3: You should? You should watch it again. It's within like
Speaker 3: the probably five years. You should watch it, like with
Speaker 3: the lens of like this movie is a cult. I
Speaker 3: will do. Her dog's name is Merlin like in the
Speaker 3: real world, and then she goes like into Labyrinth. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna say the she goes into Labyrinth and her
Speaker 3: dog somehow comes with her, but his name is Ambrosious.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that's the real historical figure that Merlin
Speaker 3: was based. Yeah, oh my god. And there's like all
Speaker 3: kinds of stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's William the Worm. Is it that is
Speaker 4: the name William?
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah. There's like she has little dolls
Speaker 3: of like King Arthur Lancelot Perceval, and there's obviously like
Speaker 3: a cult symbols and like concepts. At one point there's
Speaker 3: like an eyes wide shut party where she's like being
Speaker 3: torn shirt in this kind of like hellish sequence with
Speaker 3: people with masks and they're like trying to seduce her,
Speaker 3: you know, which it's got a little bit of like
Speaker 3: a dark undertone, but it's like, you know, it's like
Speaker 3: kind of lighthearted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like it's like sexy muppets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Jim Hinsen too, So like I was gonna say,
Speaker 3: literally muppets, Yeah, sexy muppets.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's only is it only sexy because David Bowie
Speaker 6: is there there he wasn't at the party, was yeah,
Speaker 6: and he was like, yeah, like a leotard too, isn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Actually, just as David Bowie a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: Full for Halloween. I'll post some pictures. You have the
Speaker 4: poof I had the poof I wore that. I even
Speaker 4: put the cod piece in.
Speaker 3: Let's go. Emily started showing me like pictures online of
Speaker 3: couples that will do like costumes, Like one of them
Speaker 3: that's common is like it'll be a married couple. And
Speaker 3: it's like the dad is like, you know, the David
Speaker 3: Bowie character. I can't remember his name. What's his name?
Speaker 4: The guy King King Jarreth Jarth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dad is like dressed as Jarreth. The mom
Speaker 3: is dressed as like the main character. I can't remember
Speaker 3: her name either, and then the baby is dressed as
Speaker 3: like the worm.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like a common like family. I do remember it.
Speaker 4: Being funny, you know, it was great and they have
Speaker 4: like the singing and but what I really love and
Speaker 4: this is just going to tie it all back to
Speaker 4: manifesting and everything. She makes a wish take take my brother,
Speaker 4: and Poofy's gone, and she's like, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking about that. Yeah, like this manifestation,
Speaker 3: she got her.
Speaker 4: Wish, and then she goes through this elaborate labyrinth of
Speaker 4: you know, trial and error trying to get him back,
Speaker 4: and then how she actually gets him back is the
Speaker 4: same way that Dorothy gets back from Oz, which is
Speaker 4: realizing she's had the power along the labyrinth was an illusion.
Speaker 3: She has the Wizard Book in her room. Yes, she
Speaker 3: has the actual Wizard of Oz book. It's like telling you, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's interesting because like in manifesting, when people
Speaker 4: come to me, and I have to go through it
Speaker 4: myself too. So when they come to me, they're like,
Speaker 4: I really want to manifest this, but they list like
Speaker 4: ten reasons. I'm like, those ten reasons are an illusion.
Speaker 4: So I'm working with them to release the illusion. And
Speaker 4: because we are the power, right, everything is possible. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And it's you don't even have to believe anything, and
Speaker 4: everything is possible to get what you want. But once
Speaker 4: you start to wake up, going back to that, when
Speaker 4: you start to wake up and you start manifesting more
Speaker 4: and more, and you start parallel reality shifting and you
Speaker 4: start seeing things that shouldn't be happening based on your
Speaker 4: original understanding of how reality works, it does become fun.
Speaker 4: It becomes like a game. I get frustrated because I'm like,
Speaker 4: I should be able to do this faster. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it's you wake up to the truth.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: I don't know the ultimate truth, you know, or shocks.
Speaker 4: What's beyond this, I don't know, but I do know
Speaker 4: that in this realm that we can you know, shift
Speaker 4: into a space where we can have what we want.
Speaker 4: Do you have a hunch we have a couple of theories. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I have the theory like you were talking about, we're
Speaker 4: all different aspects of God. But I have other theories
Speaker 4: that are not as friendly.
Speaker 3: You're really hung on that for a second. Friendly.
Speaker 4: No, I'm kidding. No, I do think it's that. I
Speaker 4: think it is. I think it's God experiencing himself herself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there, all of it. It's everything ourselves, God experiencing ourselves.
Speaker 6: There you go, it's us. That feels right to me.
Speaker 6: And it's also what's in Lord of the Rings so.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's also like every ancient tradition and.
Speaker 4: So yeah, back to bubble gun. It's like when you
Speaker 4: start to realize a minute, and it's not just in meditation,
Speaker 4: so you can have this experience of people like I
Speaker 4: teach this thought transmission outside of meditating as well, and
Speaker 4: it's just as vivid and real where it's not sharing
Speaker 4: that information. It's like you start to realize, like, well,
Speaker 4: how is this possible that we're like, how did I know,
Speaker 4: of all the people in the world that Agnacio walked
Speaker 4: into my meditation? I saw him I was doing something else.
Speaker 4: I'm always doing something when I meditate, and he comes
Speaker 4: in hands me a note and I'm like okay. And
Speaker 4: if you know, I hadn't been in this world for
Speaker 4: a long time, I might have thought, well, I'm never
Speaker 4: going to say that. It sounds like I'm crazy. But
Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, that probably happened. So I
Speaker 4: went over to him and he's like yeah, and we
Speaker 4: had written it down identically.
Speaker 3: I had a similar thing with Ignacio while we were there.
Speaker 4: He's very talented.
Speaker 3: He is. He's very talented. I'm excited to meet him. Yeahah,
Speaker 3: he's great and you'll really resonate with him because he's
Speaker 3: he's like a he's a musicians. That's his main thing.
Speaker 3: Like he's one of the audio engineers. So he's like
Speaker 3: former geek about it. He's like a hardcore pianist. Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so we were he did Gateway with us, even
Speaker 3: though he's like, you know, part of Monroe staff. They
Speaker 3: brought several staff members to go through with us on
Speaker 3: our side. I don't quite know why they did that,
Speaker 3: but I'm so glad they did. And yeah, so we
Speaker 3: were doing one of the meditations and I saw his
Speaker 3: face kind of like looming flash in my meditation, Ignacio,
Speaker 3: and I was like, huh okay. And and throughout the
Speaker 3: week I saw other people, but this time I really
Speaker 3: had a feeling of like seeing Ignacio. And you have
Speaker 3: to keep in mind, dude, when you're doing these meditations,
Speaker 3: you're you're really like trying to experience it. You're trying
Speaker 3: to like, you know, pay attention and do the instructions
Speaker 3: they give you, and not necessarily I'm not like thinking
Speaker 3: about the other people here, like I wonder if they're yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: You're not worried about whatever, what everyone else's experience is
Speaker 3: like in that In that moment, I'm not thinking about anybody, right,
Speaker 3: So sometimes you know, people will come in and he
Speaker 3: came in and I saw him, and afterwards I told
Speaker 3: him and he was like his eyes lit up and
Speaker 3: he was like, I, here's what it was. So we
Speaker 3: were doing the reball thing at one point and then eventually,
Speaker 3: you know, you do it every time, and that's you know,
Speaker 3: the energy bubble, the energy balloon, yes, what they call it.
Speaker 3: And at one point I I somehow or another was
Speaker 3: doing it and I saw him or maybe it was
Speaker 3: that he saw me, but I knew it had something
Speaker 3: to do with the reball like shimmering, and he said
Speaker 3: he heard a voice scream at him Ryan, And while
Speaker 3: he was experiencing that in the meditation, I was seeing
Speaker 3: his face like with his you know, energy feel shimmering
Speaker 3: around us. So it was it was crazy for sure,
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then we talked about We talked about this
Speaker 4: in the live last night where Marco and I he
Speaker 4: was like on a total whim. We were going to
Speaker 4: our individual rooms and I looked at him and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna send you an image draw it, and he's like, okay.
Speaker 4: And I drew a jellyfish with these like tentacles or whatever.
Speaker 4: And he drew a spider with these really long tentacle
Speaker 4: legs like he drew what I had drawn, except he
Speaker 4: called it a spider.
Speaker 3: But it was like the exact same shape with all
Speaker 3: the legs. And I saw the drawing like he pulled
Speaker 3: it out of the debrief and.
Speaker 4: He yeah, and we we put him together. And what's
Speaker 4: interesting is in remote viewing, by the way, you don't
Speaker 4: say what it is, right, So like I called it
Speaker 4: a jellyfish, he called it a spider, but a remote viewing,
Speaker 4: it would just be the shapes.
Speaker 3: The shape of what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whoa so, but that was that was freaky.
Speaker 3: When we were at that first store downtown today, I
Speaker 3: saw this, this girl had a big jellyfish tattoo on
Speaker 3: her back. I don't know if you saw it, but
Speaker 3: I thought that was weird because we had just talked
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 4: Last Oh no, I didn't notice.
Speaker 3: It was like a massive jellyfish tattoo, like it started
Speaker 3: at her shoulder and then the like the tendrils of
Speaker 3: it whatever went all the way down her she had
Speaker 3: she had kind of like a top on where you know,
Speaker 3: it's like a tank top kind of cut, so you
Speaker 3: could see.
Speaker 4: Wait, where were.
Speaker 3: We the first nick?
Speaker 4: Do you think that I'm going to look at a
Speaker 4: person in a nicknag shop?
Speaker 3: You know everywhere there's thousands of them. I've been there
Speaker 3: so many times with my wife that I was just
Speaker 3: kind of walking around just kind of you know, breezing
Speaker 3: through and yeah, b bobbin and you know, just just uh.
Speaker 3: I just that that tattoo caught my eye because it
Speaker 3: was the jellyfish and we had just talked about that
Speaker 3: story spider.
Speaker 4: Where the spider. But I gotta tell you that store
Speaker 4: was amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I got many knickknacks. And Ryan, you were a trooper thinking.
Speaker 3: If if people well, I don't know if it will
Speaker 3: be open during Riverfest? Which place I'm afraid to say
Speaker 3: because which you talking across the street from Ian Shop. No,
Speaker 3: that place would be okay to say the name of
Speaker 3: the story. Yeah, they would edge of herge.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, they would love and love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that place is it?
Speaker 4: Were so cute I got Oh my god, I got
Speaker 4: these cute little ghost magnets. Oh my god, I'll post
Speaker 4: a picture.
Speaker 3: Hey there's another really cool store in town. I can
Speaker 3: even remember the name of it. But Baker Street is it? No, No,
Speaker 3: that's not downtown, that's market. This is downtown. Yeah, yeah, okay, we.
Speaker 4: Went in there.
Speaker 3: I was just in Baker Street with Jenny a little
Speaker 3: bit ago. I love it.
Speaker 4: It's cool.
Speaker 3: It's so cool. You got the little Magician. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: got the Magician match box. I got a little alchemy
Speaker 3: like uh, like a little travel pouch. And at this
Speaker 3: other place, I got some like ceremonial cocal. It's it's
Speaker 3: kind of like a mystical shop, but it's brand new.
Speaker 3: It's downtown cool, it's across from the uh you know it.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just thinking about ceremonial hot chocolate.
Speaker 4: Well for the for the pumpkin marshmallows.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. You know what ceremonial COCW is though,
Speaker 3: it's like it's like a legit like ceremonial thing. No,
Speaker 3: it's it's like pure raw cocal but when you consume it,
Speaker 3: it's supposed to give you like intense like euphoria and
Speaker 3: gratitude and all that.
Speaker 4: So you bought one for you and one for your wife?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Thanks, it's like I want.
Speaker 4: To do the ceremony.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just they.
Speaker 6: Have like ceremonial there's I think there's ceremonies for everything.
Speaker 3: At this point. You can get ceremonial macha, you can
Speaker 3: get this is like a legit like native thing. And
Speaker 3: I can't remember where it's from. It. I don't know
Speaker 3: what you did.
Speaker 4: You spill I spill my water all over me and
Speaker 4: Alex is just laughing at me.
Speaker 3: Come on, dude, keep it together.
Speaker 4: My hair is going to cover it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have that luxury.
Speaker 4: I do have that luxury.
Speaker 3: So I got to ask. Okay, so we talk about
Speaker 3: the the the nature of reality, right, and and you
Speaker 3: you tend to think like we do, and and a
Speaker 3: lot of people do. It's it's not that far of
Speaker 3: a stretch that that this is. You know, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like a I say spiritual because it's you know,
Speaker 3: non dogmatic, but it's like a spiritual simulation.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: But that's that's my question, Like in your opinion, why
Speaker 3: can we manifest?
Speaker 4: I think that we again in my opinion.
Speaker 3: That we are as a master of the craft.
Speaker 4: Well, if we go back to the original idea, God
Speaker 4: is experiencing ourselves as all these different points of view,
Speaker 4: Well what is God? God is a creator God, so
Speaker 4: we are mini creators. And I one thing I really
Speaker 4: loved from Bashar's teachings is he talks about one of
Speaker 4: our power superpowers is we forget. You know, we forget
Speaker 4: if you really think about it, we forget all sorts
Speaker 4: of things. And that's very helpful.
Speaker 3: Like every previous life before us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, why we're here, you know, And I think that's
Speaker 4: part of this experience because if you imagine that we're
Speaker 4: all one energy and we know everything, then you would
Speaker 4: have to forget who you are. And so I think
Speaker 4: it's waking up to who you are. And that's why
Speaker 4: manifesting works because it is one of the paths. Not
Speaker 4: I don't think it's the only one, but I think
Speaker 4: it's one of the main paths to waking up to
Speaker 4: who you are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 4: Which is your one with everything?
Speaker 3: Wow, I have never heard it explain like that meditation
Speaker 3: is another path. It's like all in the same field.
Speaker 3: You know. It's like we have mathematicisms, we have scientists,
Speaker 3: but it's all the same kind of you know, like
Speaker 3: that's what we've been talking about the last two days.
Speaker 3: Like you know, we're kind of known for the orb
Speaker 3: thing and like getting people to be in a state
Speaker 3: to where they're seeing you know, external validity of the
Speaker 3: spirit world. It's like, you know, she comes around, she's like, well, hey,
Speaker 3: do you want a million dollars?
Speaker 4: Possible?
Speaker 3: You can manifest it. And then you go to Monroe
Speaker 3: and they're like, do you want to leave your body?
Speaker 4: But it's all the same thing.
Speaker 6: It's all connected, different paths to the same destination, same answer.
Speaker 3: Rather something like that. It's interesting.
Speaker 6: Do you get a feeling that manifestation and the like
Speaker 6: reality shifting thing are almost like synonymous.
Speaker 3: In a way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like like you're pulling things from other realities, like
Speaker 6: the thing you're trying to manifest, you're bringing it here.
Speaker 4: I think of it more that it's coming from us projected.
Speaker 3: Whoa how so?
Speaker 4: So I mean it works in a lot of different models,
Speaker 4: So it doesn't matter which model you you know, think about,
Speaker 4: But I think like it originates in here and it
Speaker 4: comes out of us. And one of the illusions is
Speaker 4: that it's we're separate from it, but we're not. It's
Speaker 4: like it's like this is this is me, Like this
Speaker 4: is me? Yeah, yeah, And but when I look at it,
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't see it that way. It's like,
Speaker 4: this is something that's separate the meaeds inanimate. I'm I'm,
Speaker 4: you know, a living being. Blah blah blah. But well,
Speaker 4: where did it come from?
Speaker 3: M hm hm?
Speaker 4: Did I just wake up one day in this reality
Speaker 4: and I encountered it, which is one model and that
Speaker 4: model works for a manifestor or did I, you know,
Speaker 4: want something and then it was projected out of me?
Speaker 4: And again this is you don't have to believe in
Speaker 4: anyone else's model to get it to work. That's what's
Speaker 4: so cool about manifesting. There are so many different approaches.
Speaker 4: There's the scientific approach. There is the the goal setting approach.
Speaker 4: There's the action oriented approach. There is a body that
Speaker 4: you keep telling me about. Yes, there, there is the
Speaker 4: somatic approach. There is the feeling I'm going to feel it,
Speaker 4: you know, there's the mind mental approach. There's so many
Speaker 4: different ways to do it and they all work. The
Speaker 4: religious approach and that's what's so cool about it because
Speaker 4: it's almost it's like fundamental, and then we have our
Speaker 4: experience of it and we're trying to understand it through
Speaker 4: the language that we have and other contexts that we have.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like it's true no matter how you believe it,
Speaker 6: or even if you believe it right, it's just true already,
Speaker 6: and like you can find your way to it, like
Speaker 6: math in different ways. So logic, don't talk to me
Speaker 6: about math, dude. I failed it, just failed it so
Speaker 6: many times.
Speaker 3: I did too. But just think about it. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like you have one equation and there might be
Speaker 3: like or you have one you know problem, let's say
Speaker 3: a math problem, and there might be three or four
Speaker 3: different ways to get the same answer. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 3: it's the answer. Yeah, you know, it's like that's how
Speaker 3: I think about spirituality in general.
Speaker 5: It sounds to me more like learning methods, like how
Speaker 5: people learn things in different ways and kind of applying
Speaker 5: that to the manifest to getting what you want right.
Speaker 4: So that's very accurate. Yes, And so you know, I've
Speaker 4: coached for twenty three years, and you know, if someone
Speaker 4: comes to me and they're like, hey, i'm super I
Speaker 4: have a very super religious background. I love the Bible,
Speaker 4: I'm like, great, let's manifest from that point of view, like,
Speaker 4: there's no there's no reason to reinvent the wheel with
Speaker 4: this part. If they're not, we'll look at Nevill Goddard. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And other people come to me and they're like, I
Speaker 4: don't want to talk about the Bible. I don't want
Speaker 4: to hear the word the Bible. I want to look
Speaker 4: at the quantum mechanics and that and the quantum. Okay, great,
Speaker 4: we'll talk about it from that point of view. What's
Speaker 4: cool is you can get it to work no matter
Speaker 4: what that person is thinking about, because it's fundamentally it's
Speaker 4: fundamentally true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like fundamentally true that that's that's something That's
Speaker 3: very fascinating to me because like you know, for example,
Speaker 3: Nick and I grew up very Christian, Alex grew up Catholic.
Speaker 3: It's still Christian, but it's it's just a little different,
Speaker 3: you know, the experience, and but like where we came up,
Speaker 3: you know, really hardcore Bible belt kind of stuff. It's
Speaker 3: like you can't you can't think, like like literally, you
Speaker 3: cannot think about anything other than Christianity. It's considered a sin, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like exaggerat absolutely, Like I was told
Speaker 3: by my pastor, you know, when I was doing martial arts.
Speaker 3: I started at nineteen and I was really into it,
Speaker 3: and he was telling me things like, you know, you
Speaker 3: start doing the informs, you get into a trance. That's
Speaker 3: where the demons come in. Or you know, don't do
Speaker 3: yoga because when you get in the poses, you start
Speaker 3: to go into a trance and the demons will come in.
Speaker 3: Like you can't even look at yoga, can't you can't
Speaker 3: think about these things because you know, some sort of
Speaker 3: demonic force will possess your mind. And after breaking free
Speaker 3: of that, after many years of like kind of really
Speaker 3: digging deep and thinking about like am I okay? To
Speaker 3: think about these things. Something that I've really become fascinated
Speaker 3: with is understanding, like, you know, we really all are
Speaker 3: no matter what our background, no matter what you believe,
Speaker 3: no matter what you're taught, no matter what you teach
Speaker 3: or preach or you know, talk about even we really
Speaker 3: are all like fundamentally the same thing we Like, God exists.
Speaker 3: And when I say God amy from from my I
Speaker 3: use the word God because it's it's what I grew
Speaker 3: up with. But I do not mean in the you know,
Speaker 3: the biblical sense. I mean in like the sense that
Speaker 3: there is an original consciousness. Yeah, right, That's what I mean.
Speaker 3: But like this, this consciousness, this this original energy just
Speaker 3: fundamentally exists. And when I realized that, I didn't have
Speaker 3: to like guilt so hard about it, like be guilty
Speaker 3: about my relationship to it, or think about this person's
Speaker 3: relationship in a fearful way. They're going to go to hell.
Speaker 3: They're not going to church when I'm in church on Sunday,
Speaker 3: you know, Like just I kind of like relax, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, we really are just a part
Speaker 3: of this thing. Who cares if he thinks about it
Speaker 3: different than me or if she thinks about it different
Speaker 3: than me, like we're looking for the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we're a part of the same thing.
Speaker 4: Well, and we're all the different lenses to experience ourselves.
Speaker 4: And so of course you're going to encounter people who
Speaker 4: are going to think about it differently, because that's one
Speaker 4: of the ways to figure out that you are one
Speaker 4: with everything by realizing you're not separate, by encountering separate things.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that made any sense, but yeah,
Speaker 4: of courses, And I want to talk about your wife.
Speaker 4: We were talking right before about the zero dollar receipt
Speaker 4: I feel like I wanted to bring this up now.
Speaker 4: So right before we started recording this, we were all
Speaker 4: having dinner together and I had never met her, and
Speaker 4: she was like, Hi, oh my gosh, you know, I
Speaker 4: manifested one of your zero dollar receipts and she did
Speaker 4: it on her birthday, which is really exciting she did.
Speaker 4: But I want to talk about one of I teach people.
Speaker 4: I do these little things right, like rainbows and zero
Speaker 4: dollar receipts and gift cards, so that people can have
Speaker 4: an experience. We don't have a lot of resistance around
Speaker 4: those things, and they can see how it shows up
Speaker 4: and then if they want to keep going with it,
Speaker 4: they can, And would you tell the story? Are you interested?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, absolutely. She got really into your content after
Speaker 6: we had you on the show the first time, and
Speaker 6: she looked at like she saw your video about manifesting
Speaker 6: rainbows and she was like, oh, that's so cool. And
Speaker 6: then for some reason, I don't know why, she just
Speaker 6: really connected with the like zero dollar receipt thing. And she,
Speaker 6: you know, she's the type when she gets something in
Speaker 6: her head, nothing in the world can stop her, like
Speaker 6: you know, and so she decided, she was like and
Speaker 6: she she didn't tell me, by the way, she didn't
Speaker 6: tell me that she was going to be trying to
Speaker 6: do this. She only told me after it happened. And
Speaker 6: so she just she she meditated on it for a
Speaker 6: few days, she followed your instructions and then lo and behold,
Speaker 6: through some very obscure, strange turn of events, she ended
Speaker 6: up with her zero dollar seat and gosh, that's on
Speaker 6: her birthday, on her birth that she was so excited.
Speaker 6: You have no idea, like you would have thought she
Speaker 6: won a million dollars. Yeah, she called me, she called
Speaker 6: me like, oh my god, I got the zero dollar
Speaker 6: seat and I was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: And she was like, oh, I never told you.
Speaker 6: I saw Amy's thing and there's this zero dollar receipt
Speaker 6: thing and I was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, you did it. She did it, But that's like,
Speaker 3: how do you even get a zero dollars?
Speaker 4: That's the point. Yeah, yeah, and tons of people have
Speaker 4: done it. If you go back through some of my
Speaker 4: Instagram permanent stories from twenty twenty three, you'll see a
Speaker 4: slew of them. I ended up with one and I
Speaker 4: was like, I went to a store, I bought a
Speaker 4: bunch of stuff and I didn't have to pay anything, right,
Speaker 4: zero dollars and it said zero dollars And I was like,
Speaker 4: this is weird. So I posted about it and then
Speaker 4: I was like, here's how you do it, because you know,
Speaker 4: manifesting is the same for anything. And then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, boom boo boo boo boom, all these people
Speaker 4: are like posting pictures of their like, I bought something
Speaker 4: and it didn't cause me anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahs zero. She showed me the rabbit hole that
Speaker 3: she went down afterwards. She was like, look, there's all
Speaker 3: these videos of all these people were applying to it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen these.
Speaker 4: It was like a challenge I did last summer. Yes, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: We we could revive it.
Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's say we'll all do it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's revive it. Yeah. Let's have like, anybody out there listening,
Speaker 3: please find Amy's zero dollar receipt videos. Yeah, and if
Speaker 3: it happens to you, send it to us. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: send it to both of us.
Speaker 4: It's cool too and people, you know, and that's one
Speaker 4: thing where you're like, Okayen, was there it all o receist?
Speaker 4: You don't need that, and but it'd be interesting, and
Speaker 4: then when it happens, it's like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 4: a huge experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was gonna I was gonna segue into your rainbow.
Speaker 3: So when was that chatigan?
Speaker 4: Because you found on that July second?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I left the country. It was either July
Speaker 3: second or I think it was July third, because we
Speaker 3: had a check. Yeah, because we had a like a
Speaker 3: zoom call between all of us who were there in
Speaker 3: June at Monroe. We did a few of them after
Speaker 3: that time, and then I think it's just kind of
Speaker 3: been busy lately and people, a lot of us have
Speaker 3: been traveling and yeah, but we did a zoom call
Speaker 3: on July second with like a pretty nice sized group
Speaker 3: of us from that.
Speaker 4: Time of us or something.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and and Amy and Hannah, who you guys
Speaker 3: haven't met yet, but she's also a manifesting coach and
Speaker 3: she has a completely different approach. So it's really cool
Speaker 3: being at Monroe with Amy and Hannah and hearing both
Speaker 3: of their you know, like it's like both work, but
Speaker 3: you know, the approach is like what suits you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, so they were both like just giving their
Speaker 3: tips and giving their tricks and then we get in
Speaker 3: the zoom call and and they've kind of like, you know,
Speaker 3: work together on like let's all manifest a rainbow. Right
Speaker 3: when I landed in Frankfurt two days later, I got
Speaker 3: off the plane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I walked everyone through it. It took like
Speaker 4: a minute. I just sem like closeureize, blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 4: do this. And then like I think it was like
Speaker 4: the next day or the day after, Ryan's like here's
Speaker 4: my rainbow.
Speaker 3: Walking off the plane. Wow, look at that. And look,
Speaker 3: you know, for anybody out there who's skeptical, it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: well a rainbow's a natural phenomenon. Yeah, and I haven't
Speaker 3: seen one since. Yeah, and I can't think of the
Speaker 3: last time I've seen one. It's not like you're just
Speaker 3: seeing rainbows all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I do, but it's because I visualize it.
Speaker 3: You know. It's like Neo sees code all the time, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Neo sees the code. You're
Speaker 3: the Neo of rainbows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, it's the code, and rainbows are code for me. No,
Speaker 4: I saw Halo on the drive down a rainbow Hitler. Yeah,
Speaker 4: around the sun.
Speaker 3: You didn't tell me that I did.
Speaker 4: I told you, Remember I was leaning forward, or maybe
Speaker 4: I was telling your wife.
Speaker 3: You must have been telling you told us all? Did she?
Speaker 5: Uh huh?
Speaker 3: I remember? Well, there you go. You're caught.
Speaker 4: Well, clearly someone listens.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go start on Instagram. It's gonna be called
Speaker 3: radiating shame.
Speaker 4: Wait, we went from the illuminating shape.
Speaker 3: Well, I can't like copy her, you know.
Speaker 4: It's but yeah, now now we're gonna have to get
Speaker 4: those names.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the next thing, you know, we're gonna be followed
Speaker 3: by radiating shame.
Speaker 4: You're about to have so many people in the discord
Speaker 4: change their names yeah.
Speaker 3: Radio negative self talk. Yes, no, no, no, we don't
Speaker 3: do that. We do not. We do not condone negative
Speaker 3: self talk on this show. We condemn it. We condemn it.
Speaker 3: In fact, I finally got that down at one At
Speaker 3: one point, I accidentally condoned human.
Speaker 6: Sacrifice, hang on, hang on at one point at like
Speaker 6: three points.
Speaker 3: Because I get confused between the word him and condoned.
Speaker 3: Classic mistake. It's obviously a joke. Yeah, yeah, we condemn
Speaker 3: human sacrifice. We were doing an episode on All Time's Day.
Speaker 3: Turns out they did human sacrifice back in Roman times,
Speaker 3: so I tried to condemn it, but I got the word.
Speaker 4: Switched, so it condone.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's like a little running bit. If you
Speaker 3: want a good laugh on the drive home, listen to
Speaker 3: the val Yeah, honestly, it's pretty bad. It's great, No,
Speaker 3: it is, but that's it's it's it's great because it's
Speaker 3: like it's out there, dude. It was great talking about
Speaker 3: things brand oud.
Speaker 4: Of notes in like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 4: But that's a great rainbow. And you got that one
Speaker 4: so fast.
Speaker 3: It's so clear.
Speaker 4: Today's huge.
Speaker 3: I'm on road shirt too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also, you're beaming, beaming, just like, couldn't be happier. I'm radiating,
Speaker 3: you are, you're radio.
Speaker 4: So do you want me to do it right now
Speaker 4: with everyone?
Speaker 3: It's real fast?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, because I don't think I did it last year.
Speaker 4: I did the Superman thing with you all last time.
Speaker 3: But yes, I do remember that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So whoever's listening, audience and everything like that. If
Speaker 4: you're in a position where you can close your eyes
Speaker 4: and I know you don't visualize, but you remembered that, yeah,
Speaker 4: of course.
Speaker 3: It's hard for me. Yeah, because she remembered from last
Speaker 3: time that. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Do just do your best with it because it will
Speaker 4: still work. So if you can't visualize, do this anyways.
Speaker 4: Close your eyes and imagine you are looking up at
Speaker 4: the sky and you're seeing a big beautiful rainbow, like
Speaker 4: one of the bow rainbows. And now put a smile
Speaker 4: on your real face, the one that yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: because everyone smiles and no I have one. And if
Speaker 4: you want to go the extra step, you can imagine
Speaker 4: using your phone, your imaginary phone in your mind to
Speaker 4: take a picture of it.
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 4: Okay, good, Now open your eyes. That's it. You've just
Speaker 4: selected that from all that is and so now you
Speaker 4: are moving into that reality where you will encounter a rainbow.
Speaker 4: Now here's what's interesting. I have four steps. That was
Speaker 4: the first one, okay, and the reason is because I
Speaker 4: tell people that, and then the majority of people and
Speaker 4: this was me. That's why I had to come up
Speaker 4: with these steps.
Speaker 3: Would be like.
Speaker 4: Okay, but when how where like you know, people have
Speaker 4: lots of thoughts come up. So my next step is
Speaker 4: you don't need to believe you're going to see a rainbow.
Speaker 4: You can see one whether you believe it or not.
Speaker 4: So you just tell yourself that, so just you know,
Speaker 4: just okay, I don't need to believe it. My third
Speaker 4: step is released resistance, and that is anything that comes
Speaker 4: up in your mind that is like doubt, Oh well,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to see a rainbow. It's not going
Speaker 4: to be me. What if it's hard for me self?
Speaker 3: Doubt.
Speaker 4: Someone sent me a message they saw one in the
Speaker 4: Sahara desert. Wow, a day after I posted my rainbow video,
Speaker 4: and they said, when you said it, I was like,
Speaker 4: there's no way I'm going to see one because I'm
Speaker 4: in the desert. Yeah, And they thought they went through
Speaker 4: the third step where I said, go ahead and think whatever,
Speaker 4: it's fine. And then they saw one. They sent me
Speaker 4: this beautiful picture of it. And then my so whatever
Speaker 4: thought comes up as doubt, just it doesn't matter. You
Speaker 4: can still see a rainbow. Yeah, you could be crying
Speaker 4: and see a rainbow. Don't cry though. And then the
Speaker 4: fourth step is detaching. And we were talking about attachment
Speaker 4: a lot in the last like day or so here
Speaker 4: in the group, and detaching is just don't need it.
Speaker 4: And so I have a little phrase just so repeat
Speaker 4: after me. I would really love to see a rainbow.
Speaker 3: I would really love to see it. I would really
Speaker 3: love to see a rainbow.
Speaker 4: I would really love to see But I do not
Speaker 4: need to see a rainbow.
Speaker 3: But I do not need I need to see a rainbow.
Speaker 4: Nobody needs to see a rainbow.
Speaker 3: Nobody needs he needs to see a rainbow.
Speaker 4: That's it. You just instructed your mind that you would
Speaker 4: love it. You don't need it. It's just that easy
Speaker 4: for detaching. It's basically like the way that I do
Speaker 4: it is instructing your mind like I want this, I
Speaker 4: don't need it, as a way to release resistance, and
Speaker 4: then you go about your business and love. You know,
Speaker 4: let us know when you see your rainbows.
Speaker 5: So well, do you think that doing the visualization part
Speaker 5: as I'm falling asleep could be working really well because
Speaker 5: I'm kind of yeah, like, I'm kind of enacting the
Speaker 5: four following rules without even like it's not I'm not
Speaker 5: getting attached because I'm falling right sleep.
Speaker 4: So yeah, if you are doing any sort of focusing
Speaker 4: work when you're falling asleep, just do that step one focusing. Yeah.
Speaker 4: My other three steps are really for the people who
Speaker 4: we think about it a little bit afterwards, Yeah, or
Speaker 4: like a lot. I think about it a lot afterwards.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I manifested it. Where is it you do that? Yeah,
Speaker 4: That's why I'm so good at teaching people how to
Speaker 4: stop doing it.
Speaker 3: You've been through it. That's a really good point. You've
Speaker 3: been through the fire.
Speaker 4: I've been through the fire. So we naturally pass through
Speaker 4: the FADA brainwave state as we are waking up and
Speaker 4: falling asleep, and that includes naps and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: If you're actually fall asleep, and that is an ideal
Speaker 4: time to do visualizing of what you want to have.
Speaker 4: When you focus on visualizing, it's already happened. That's the
Speaker 4: key here. It's not before it happened. It's not like
Speaker 4: driving to be like, oh, I hope I see your
Speaker 4: rainbow to day. No, you're already looking at it, or
Speaker 4: you've already got the picture of it. Or if you're
Speaker 4: not a visualizer, you can do Nevill Goddard has a
Speaker 4: lullaby and that's words, so he would say, isn't it wonderful?
Speaker 4: So you could just repeat that gently as you're falling asleep, yeah,
Speaker 4: Or you can say any sort of affirmation. So I'll
Speaker 4: usually do like a self concept affirmation as I'm falling asleep.
Speaker 4: You know, anything could be anything like I am wonderful
Speaker 4: or my life is wonderful, or any sort of gently
Speaker 4: repeat it. Because whatever you're doing as you're falling asleep,
Speaker 4: it kind of gets into your subconscious a lot easier
Speaker 4: without that gatekeeper there.
Speaker 3: And that's like the whole premise of the Monroe thing
Speaker 3: to do, you mean, where they're like bringing your brain
Speaker 3: to theta.
Speaker 6: Right right right, they're training you how to get your
Speaker 6: brain into that state so that the.
Speaker 3: And then keeping you there yeah, and then they're like okay,
Speaker 3: I think about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they take your to other not just theta right,
Speaker 4: because they're they're working a lot on Gamma Gamma telling
Speaker 4: me to this Gamma. That's one of my Monroe friends. Vicky.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Vicky.
Speaker 3: Shout out Vicky.
Speaker 4: Vicky. She's like, give me the Gamma, give me all
Speaker 4: the game, give me the Gamma. Gama's great. That's where
Speaker 4: you can get like epiphanies and like peak moments and stuff.
Speaker 3: So this this reminds me of something we were talking
Speaker 3: about earlier. We were talking about you were saying because
Speaker 3: he started having oh at the very beginning when he
Speaker 3: was having the dream, and it was like the box
Speaker 3: was on the car and it's like, dude, we talked
Speaker 3: about this. By the way, for those listening right now,
Speaker 3: if you heard our previous three part Monroe series about
Speaker 3: my experience there and I tell the story of the miracle.
Speaker 3: When I was like, there's going to be a miracle tonight,
Speaker 3: and then it was on TV. This is the Amy
Speaker 3: that we were at lunch together, and then we were
Speaker 3: sitting beside each other that night next to Joe mcmonagall
Speaker 3: and it's set on TV. Wow, Joe, this was a miracle.
Speaker 3: And me and Amy were just like, because you heard
Speaker 3: me say it earlier and at lunch at I was
Speaker 3: telling them and.
Speaker 4: It was just me and you and the president or
Speaker 4: the CEO and the vice president.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no it was ARKI.
Speaker 4: Oh it was Arkie.
Speaker 3: Yeah that moment it was Archay. Yeah. And I was
Speaker 3: telling them like, I don't know what this means. I've
Speaker 3: just I just heard the words there's going to be
Speaker 3: a miracle tonight. And Amy and Alan and Arkie they
Speaker 3: were like, well, I mean it could mean anything. It
Speaker 3: doesn't have to mean that, you know, something is necessarily
Speaker 3: it could be subjective, it could be and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's you know, just just don't put too much pressure
Speaker 3: on it. And I was like, well, you know, I
Speaker 3: guess everything that happens here is kind of like a miracle.
Speaker 3: And then boom it said the word on the TV
Speaker 3: and we locked eyes, like there's a miracle you both felt. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this I do want to say something about manifesting.
Speaker 4: So a lot of people come to me. They're like, well,
Speaker 4: I focused on what I wanted and I got something
Speaker 4: different than I thought. Like some people will imagine a
Speaker 4: rainbow and they'll see, you know, a sign of a
Speaker 4: rainbow or something.
Speaker 3: I just saw one today. Remember, Yeah, you were sitting
Speaker 3: down doing the tarot thing, and I was like a
Speaker 3: rainbow just drove by.
Speaker 4: So this happens on the journey of materesting, and it's
Speaker 4: about helping you get that skill set to get more
Speaker 4: and more clear about what it looks like to have
Speaker 4: the thing it is that you want. So if you
Speaker 4: have ever experienced this as a manifestor and you're like,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm trying to get this one thing and it
Speaker 4: keeps showing up a slightly different even though it is
Speaker 4: actually accurate. We were talking about the genie, the tricky
Speaker 4: genie I wish.
Speaker 3: Maybe you don't get exactly what you wish for. You
Speaker 3: never do.
Speaker 4: But with manifesting, when that happens, that is a that's
Speaker 4: not a problem. It's basically just helping you to refine
Speaker 4: what it is that you want, so try again. A
Speaker 4: lot of people get discouraged at that point. I am
Speaker 4: one of those people where I'm that nerd where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: let me try it again. Let's see what you can
Speaker 4: do about.
Speaker 3: Tweak the formula.
Speaker 4: Tweak the formula, And typically it comes down to I
Speaker 4: do recommend trying it again and just getting a little
Speaker 4: more clear detail wise about what the thing is you
Speaker 4: actually want, because sometimes we're not thinking about what we want,
Speaker 4: we're thinking about how we're going to get it, or
Speaker 4: we're not thinking far enough down the road. So like,
Speaker 4: if you want to go to London, you buy a
Speaker 4: ticket to London, and then if it routs you through Paris,
Speaker 4: it routs you through Paris. You don't buy a ticket
Speaker 4: to Paris and then be like I'm gonna get to
Speaker 4: Paris and when I get to Paris, I'm going to
Speaker 4: be in London. No, No, you go, you target what
Speaker 4: you want.
Speaker 3: I've got a great story about that, Amy, I don't
Speaker 3: mean to interrupt, go for it. I have a specific
Speaker 3: story about that. So when I was just in Europe
Speaker 3: and we were in Amsterdam for like three days, we
Speaker 3: had a train ride from Frankfort to Amsterdam and then
Speaker 3: from Amsterdam to gelson Kushen because that's where Taylor Swift was.
Speaker 3: My wife wanted to go see Taylor Swift, and so
Speaker 3: we trained to a different place, like hours from Branford.
Speaker 3: So we were like on the go, and we didn't
Speaker 3: have our hotel anymore, so we had to find like
Speaker 3: a public like underground locker system to drop off our
Speaker 3: suitcases and we had a few hours and we're like
Speaker 3: we got to catch the train at six o'clock and
Speaker 3: we're rushing. We're rushing. Oh my god, we're gonna miss
Speaker 3: the train because like we were at this museum that
Speaker 3: had a booked time slot and then we went and
Speaker 3: ate really quick and we had to run, un run,
Speaker 3: run around to catch this train out of Amsterdam to
Speaker 3: Gelson Kushen and we missed the train. And we're like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, we're gonna be stranded in Amsterdam. What do
Speaker 3: we do? Like I don't even have cell phone service.
Speaker 3: Jenny does, thank god, but like I can't even use
Speaker 3: my phone, and even if I could, Like, how am
Speaker 3: I going to get out of here? We're hours away
Speaker 3: from anywhere. What are we gonna do?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: We're like freaking out. So we had this like ice ticket,
Speaker 3: which is like it's an inter I don't know what
Speaker 3: the acronym stands for, but it's like country to country,
Speaker 3: like you can ride through the countries on the train, right,
Speaker 3: And we get on this ice train and then when
Speaker 3: we finally like get on another train by the way,
Speaker 3: because we missed the first one, and we're like twenty
Speaker 3: or thirty minutes delayed. We get on the train and
Speaker 3: then we look at our ticket and we're like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: our train was it eight? We got on an hour
Speaker 3: and a half early, thinking we were late. We're on
Speaker 3: the wrong train and we have the wrong ticket. So
Speaker 3: we're like, we're like, let's pray they don't check because
Speaker 3: at every stop they walked through and they checked tickets.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got about three stops, dude. So so
Speaker 3: like we got I think we got to some random
Speaker 3: city in the Netherlands, in a foreign country where her
Speaker 3: family's from Germany. We don't have anybody near us. We
Speaker 3: get to this random stop in the Netherlands. The guy
Speaker 3: kicks us off the train. He's like, you got the
Speaker 3: wrong ticket. So now we're stranded in the Netherlands. He's like,
Speaker 3: go to this kiosk, do this. Talk to this guy.
Speaker 3: You can swap your ticket, you can ride this train.
Speaker 3: And we're like, oh shit, now we got to ride
Speaker 3: some random train through these random cities in a foreign country.
Speaker 3: We have no clue how to get to where we're going.
Speaker 3: So we go and we get on this other train
Speaker 3: that's not an inter country train, right, and we get
Speaker 3: on it and we do a few stops and everyone
Speaker 3: around us is like speaking you know, German or Dutch
Speaker 3: or and we're like, how are we gonna get there?
Speaker 3: This guy gets on the train and he gets off
Speaker 3: his bicycle and he rides it on the train and
Speaker 3: it's a wide open train, tons of seats. He looks
Speaker 3: at us, and me and Jenny are at this like
Speaker 3: most of the seats were like forward facing, and then
Speaker 3: we're in like the one spot on this box car
Speaker 3: or cable car that the seats were facing you like that.
Speaker 4: I had to throw that in there. Have you talked
Speaker 4: about cable car?
Speaker 3: No? We yeah, no I haven't.
Speaker 4: We will, yeah, we will.
Speaker 3: But we were in the one spot where the seats
Speaker 3: are like kind of facing each other, and then every
Speaker 3: other seat was like facing this way, so if all
Speaker 3: the spots in the train. This guy walks up, he's like,
Speaker 3: can I sit with you? And we're like, yes, you can,
Speaker 3: you know, just being nice, and he sits there. He
Speaker 3: speaks English, he starts talking to us, and next thing
Speaker 3: we know, he's just this really nice guy. He's it
Speaker 3: was his birthday. He was just out biking in the
Speaker 3: Netherlands by himself. He has a daughter like our age.
Speaker 3: His wife back in Germany. He just wanted to spend
Speaker 3: his birthday bicycling by himself out in the countryside the Netherlands.
Speaker 3: His bike broke and he's like miles out and you know,
Speaker 3: farmland with a broken bicycle. Walking in he stumbles onto
Speaker 3: a mechanic. He's delayed hours for his train ride. The
Speaker 3: mechanic happens to be able to fix his bicycle, so
Speaker 3: he's rushing home to catch his train, gets on the bike,
Speaker 3: sits I mean on the train, you know from his
Speaker 3: bike sits by us, and he's like, I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: you guys to where you're gonna go. So for like
Speaker 3: the next two hours, he train hopped us home and
Speaker 3: he he got us to where we needed to go.
Speaker 3: Guess what his name was? What Christopher? Christopher my father's name.
Speaker 3: He was. Dude, that is unreal, Dude, I.
Speaker 4: Thought you were going to say his name was Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: That man's name was Taylor Swift. He started singing songs.
Speaker 3: It was heard no, but like, think about how crazy
Speaker 3: that is, dude. We're freaking out were foreign country and
Speaker 3: he just sits there on the train and he's like
Speaker 3: he just he just was like I help you. And
Speaker 3: he went out of his way from his city in
Speaker 3: Germany to like get us home because he learned our
Speaker 3: situation and he was like, why are they sending you here?
Speaker 3: This is you're never going to make it home. You
Speaker 3: would have been lost. And he got us there, and
Speaker 3: then like when he dropped us off at our train station,
Speaker 3: he pulled out his wallet and he's he We found
Speaker 3: out he'd been to America once in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 3: He went and he wanted to see the World Trade
Speaker 3: Center just before you know, blew up, and it was
Speaker 3: he he flewd in New York for a couple of days.
Speaker 3: He just he loved America like a lot of people overseas,
Speaker 3: do you know. And he pulled out his wallet and
Speaker 3: he showed me he had a dollar bill in there.
Speaker 3: He's like, it's my lucky dollar. And I fumbled through
Speaker 3: my pocket and I pulled out another one. I was like,
Speaker 3: happy birthday, here's here's another lucky dollar. He looked at me,
Speaker 3: he was like, and I you know, gave him a
Speaker 3: big shake on the hand. Jenny's streaming tears, and we're like,
Speaker 3: he was an angel, that's so cool. We manifested him.
Speaker 3: He popped out of nowhere and he got us home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's how it happens. It's it's always something
Speaker 4: that other people are like, well, that would have happened anyway,
Speaker 4: Like that man would have been there anyway. But but
Speaker 4: when you have enough experiences, you're like, okay, but something
Speaker 4: always shows up. If you are focused on what your
Speaker 4: destination is, that could have went bad.
Speaker 3: Oh certainly, Yeah, dude, Yeah, he.
Speaker 4: Could have ended up. You could have ended up sleeping
Speaker 4: under a windmill or in.
Speaker 3: A hostel or something. Yeah. Yeah, no, literally, dude, I
Speaker 3: didn't that went That went right over my head. Well,
Speaker 3: we were in a windmill city.
Speaker 4: Oh and then not that you well, I'm trying to say,
Speaker 4: like he's like it could have gone bad, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: in the land of mills.
Speaker 3: Like we were in the whoa, but but no, like
Speaker 3: we could have been stranded, Like yeah.
Speaker 6: No, it could could have been really bad. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: then a dude named Chris, a dude with your dad's name,
Speaker 6: shows up and helps you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just he just got us wearing and I'm
Speaker 3: talking hours like he he ignored his destination and rode
Speaker 3: trains with He's like, come on, we gotta catch this one.
Speaker 3: Let's go. That's so sweet. So, yeah, you were talking
Speaker 3: about the train thing.
Speaker 4: I had a really cool experience, a manifestation. This was
Speaker 4: this was interesting, This was I don't know to twenty ten,
Speaker 4: twenty eleven. I wanted to go to a concert in Taipei.
Speaker 4: So I did. I didn't have a ticket. It was
Speaker 4: a traveler, yeah.
Speaker 3: Was a Taylor Swift but.
Speaker 4: No, no. And it was funny because I decided to
Speaker 4: go thirty six hours before the concert. I'd never been
Speaker 4: to Taiwan before, but I had been to Asia. Didn't
Speaker 4: have a ticket, and I had no way of finding out.
Speaker 4: How to get a ticket is like you know, Chinese
Speaker 4: characters and stuff, a lettering, and so I hopped on
Speaker 4: a flight and I went to Tokyo and then I
Speaker 4: took a plane down to Taipei and I get there.
Speaker 4: This isn't the story, but I get there, and uh,
Speaker 4: this is actually a really good story. I just had
Speaker 4: this feeling like just go. It's like a big trip
Speaker 4: from the East coast from Washington, d C. It was
Speaker 4: like fourteen hours to Tokyo and then another six or
Speaker 4: something to Typey and I go to my hotel and
Speaker 4: there was an English speaking concierge and I just said, like,
Speaker 4: I want to go to this venue, and he called
Speaker 4: a cab, told the cab to take me there. At
Speaker 4: the time of the concert, I step out of the cab.
Speaker 4: I'm like got one foot like getting out of the cab,
Speaker 4: and this woman comes up to me. She goes, would
Speaker 4: you like a ticket?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, how much is it? And she
Speaker 4: sold it to me for face value. It was like whatever,
Speaker 4: one hundred bucks or something, and it was a really
Speaker 4: great seat and I just like walked right in.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: And I just remember thinking like he didn't have a ticket, No,
Speaker 4: it sold out.
Speaker 3: She just went She was like, I'm just gonna go
Speaker 3: and I want to figure it out.
Speaker 4: I went all the way to Taiwan without a ticket
Speaker 4: to a sold out concert, not knowing anybody.
Speaker 3: That's insane.
Speaker 4: And I literally just got out of the cab, jet
Speaker 4: lagged and I went on a thirty six hour notice,
Speaker 4: like I decided to go thirty six hours before the concert.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a plans at all. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: That is so wild. Step out of the cab, here's
Speaker 3: a ticket. Yeah, And they weren't even like.
Speaker 4: A scalper no, no, not at all for face value. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and she sold me for face value. And then I
Speaker 4: got like interviewed because they're like, there's some people filming
Speaker 4: there and they're like, where are you from. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm from Washington, d C. And they like interviewed me.
Speaker 4: I don't never know where it showed up and it
Speaker 4: was a great seat. Anyway, that's not the story. That
Speaker 4: was the preamble to the real story.
Speaker 3: Pretty sick story.
Speaker 4: So I'm in Taiwan and I had a friend from
Speaker 4: high school who lived in Seoul, South Korea, and he
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, so I'm gonna be over there.
Speaker 4: I'll pop over and visit you and your wife. And
Speaker 4: she was pregnant at the time, and so he's like, sure, sure,
Speaker 4: come on over. So I pop over to Soul after
Speaker 4: the concert and she had she had to deliver the babies,
Speaker 4: so he was unable to see me. They were a
Speaker 4: little bit early. He's like, I'm so sorry, I don't
Speaker 4: have time. You know, I have some English speaking friends
Speaker 4: I'm gonna introduce you to. So he basically set up
Speaker 4: play dates with me and his English speaking friends every
Speaker 4: day that I was there that week, and there was
Speaker 4: another show I wanted to go to for the same
Speaker 4: singer as a Korean singer, and I knew I could
Speaker 4: not get into this one even if they had a
Speaker 4: ticket because you had to have a Japanese This is
Speaker 4: the really cool story. Do you had to have a
Speaker 4: Japanese or a Korean like social security number whatever that
Speaker 4: number is for insurance reasons or something.
Speaker 3: To go to the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had to have a ticket, and you could.
Speaker 4: You had to be one of those two.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So one of the people that I got intered to
Speaker 4: was this this guy from France and he had just Oh.
Speaker 4: So what happened is I got introduced to a director
Speaker 4: from Italy and he's like, oh, I don't know, I
Speaker 4: can't help you with that, but I have a friend
Speaker 4: of mine from France who's in the industry here. So
Speaker 4: he introduced me that guy. And that guy was like,
Speaker 4: I just lost my job like yesterday, I have no contacts,
Speaker 4: and he's like, can you get me into this event?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, dude, I was hoping you would get
Speaker 4: me into this, but that's why I was like set
Speaker 4: up to meet you here. And so it was the
Speaker 4: day of the event and I'm like let's just go
Speaker 4: down there. I have really good luck with this type
Speaker 4: of things. So we go down there, and I kept
Speaker 4: imagining being in the venue.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So we go and people are milling about to go inside.
Speaker 4: This is where it gets really crazy. And I had
Speaker 4: been doing this thing. I don't do this anymore with manifesting,
Speaker 4: but I had been doing this thing where I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm going to follow the signs for this manifestation. And
Speaker 4: I got that it was supposed to be pokadots, follow
Speaker 4: the Polka dots. Okay, this is like I don't know,
Speaker 4: twenty ten. And there was a bench in the middle
Speaker 4: of this courtyard to go in, and there was one
Speaker 4: random folded up gift bag that had been used that
Speaker 4: was Polka dots and it was just sitting on the bench.
Speaker 4: So I just went sat down next to it. Wow,
Speaker 4: and yeah, I remember, and he's like, why are we
Speaker 4: sitting over here? And I'm like, trust me, trust me,
Speaker 4: Poka doots. I don't know, because this is all it's
Speaker 4: all you. Everything is you, that's what's so you're following yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting there and this woman, oh, there's thousands
Speaker 4: of people. This woman walks up to me perfect English.
Speaker 4: She's like, hey, where are you from. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: from Washington, DC area. Guess what you say when you're international.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, no one's heard of Richmond, Virginia.
Speaker 4: And she was like, oh, I'm I'm from Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: I'm like really, She's like yeah, She's like I'm here
Speaker 4: and I I could not get a ticket. I bet
Speaker 4: you don't have a ticket, because she's like, I'm American,
Speaker 4: I don't have a Korean number and I had to
Speaker 4: basically use my cousin's ID to get into this thing.
Speaker 4: I get a ticket. She goes, I bet you don't
Speaker 4: have a ticket. I'm like that's correct. She goes, yeah,
Speaker 4: it took me forever to get one. And so we
Speaker 4: start talking and so I'm like, well, I'm not really
Speaker 4: from DC. I'm from I'm from Virginia. She goes, why
Speaker 4: I'm from Virginia and I said, well, I'm actually from Richmond.
Speaker 4: She goes, well, I'm I'm actually from Richmond. God and
Speaker 4: this guy from France is like, you know, like King
Speaker 4: fog Thing, and she's like, well, I'm I'm actually from
Speaker 4: a suburb of Richmond, and she named it and I said,
Speaker 4: that's that's I actually am from that suburb as well.
Speaker 4: And it turns out that her kids were friends with
Speaker 4: my nephews and went to school with them.
Speaker 3: What and you're in Korea.
Speaker 4: We're in the Soul, South Korea, and this of all
Speaker 4: the thousands of people, this one woman, she's the only
Speaker 4: person that came over talked to me. And here's what's crazy.
Speaker 4: So she everything will move for you. She's like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go talk to the coordinators. She goes over our
Speaker 4: watch her. She talks to this man and you know,
Speaker 4: he was like, no, She's like talking to him in
Speaker 4: career and he's like, she comes back over me. She goes, look,
Speaker 4: I'm really sorry he's he said, it's an insurance thing
Speaker 4: and I tried, but it's really nice meeting you and
Speaker 4: da da da dah. So she goes in they let
Speaker 4: everyone in and I'm like the polka dots with her.
Speaker 4: So I just sat there and then the guy from
Speaker 4: Fantasy's getting like, what are we doing? I'm like, just wait,
Speaker 4: trust me, just wait. And I have no evidence anything's
Speaker 4: gonna happen. I just said that we just happened. It
Speaker 4: was so crazy, and so I had been imagining. And
Speaker 4: the reason I was waiting is because I had been
Speaker 4: imagining being inside and I know that works, and I
Speaker 4: skipped how I got in there. So everyone goes in.
Speaker 4: About five minutes go by, and that man, the coordinator
Speaker 4: she had talked to you, he comes over to us.
Speaker 4: Now the courtyard's empty. It's me and the guy from
Speaker 4: France and this coordinator and he goes come with me,
Speaker 4: and he took us in a backdoor.
Speaker 3: Oh are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: And and the guy from France is like, I believe
Speaker 4: He couldn't believe it. He's like, oh, I've never seen
Speaker 4: anything like that. I'm like, yeah, oh, but that woman
Speaker 4: being from the same little suburb of all the places
Speaker 4: in the world, and it's just stuff like that. When
Speaker 4: it happens, what's.
Speaker 6: The same of the suburb? I have family in Richmond, Virginia.
Speaker 6: That might be Actually I need to text my mom.
Speaker 5: Text I have a similar but not as great international
Speaker 5: story like that. So I'm in the shinkitary Italy with
Speaker 5: my fiance and her parents, and like we were kind
Speaker 5: of we're at the point in the shrip, we're kind
Speaker 5: of our All I wanted to do was swim. They
Speaker 5: wanted to eat, so we ate. We end up at
Speaker 5: the beach. I'm swimming. I'm just like having a blast,
Speaker 5: and I'm swimming by these rocks and I kind of
Speaker 5: stop and I stand on this rock. So I'm kind
Speaker 5: of in waist deep on the rock. But it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, it's overhead and there's this kid and he's
Speaker 5: like having trouble swimming and I'm like, yo, come over here,
Speaker 5: there's a rock you can stand on. He's like okay.
Speaker 5: He comes over and he stands on the rock and
Speaker 5: I'm like, where are you from?
Speaker 3: He said?
Speaker 5: North Carolina. I said, that's cool, man, I'm from North Carolina.
Speaker 5: I'm like, what's your name? He said, Alex.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, way, hold on. We were just.
Speaker 5: Tripping out from He's from Charlotte. He was telling me
Speaker 5: like about he's working for his brother and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, I've come all the way here to
Speaker 5: meet Alex from North Carolina. Like my whole life flashed
Speaker 5: before my eyes.
Speaker 3: It was. It was a very wi Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 3: Speaking of gift bags, we got you again from the
Speaker 3: Bloodshoe said, so, oh my god, this is not totally
Speaker 3: not scripted, not at all this was not pre planned.
Speaker 1: What it is?
Speaker 3: She hasn't even seen the gif ever, never.
Speaker 4: Ever, never, I wasn't supposed to get these in the mail, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm not like a thank you. I would put it on.
Speaker 4: But I have like already a lot of stuff that
Speaker 4: works perfectly, that looks good, does it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Ok?
Speaker 4: And then oh my gosh, I think this is one
Speaker 4: of my colors.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I have the same color one too.
Speaker 3: That's the best one. Show the camera, I'll be honest, yo, I'm.
Speaker 4: Afraid to like move the microphone. Oh my gosh, no,
Speaker 4: I really do. I'm gonna swatch this there. Oh there
Speaker 4: is so I got my color analysis done.
Speaker 3: I want I want to do one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm a spring and it changed my life.
Speaker 3: It's just a little thing. Oh I love stickers.
Speaker 4: This should be the thumbnail for me.
Speaker 3: Yes, it take the picture. Take the picture perfect? Are
Speaker 3: you kidding me? This is like a Disney moment right, yeah?
Speaker 3: Great thumbnail.
Speaker 4: We were taking thumbnail pictures before this.
Speaker 3: In all reality, I had told her after we left Monroe, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know how it came up. It was just like,
Speaker 3: I want to send you a hat, give me your
Speaker 3: address and I think we just resolved to well, you're
Speaker 3: coming in person, will give it to you in person.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know, no, Yeah, that's what happened. And then
Speaker 4: you were in Europe.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 4: And I was living at Monroe.
Speaker 3: So she's been there twice since we got back from
Speaker 3: our trip, right, twice since June. Yeah, and then you're
Speaker 3: going back in two weeks. I'm going back in two weeks,
Speaker 3: and then I'm there in October. Right, I'm there like
Speaker 3: five more times for that of the year. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: wow and something.
Speaker 5: So are you paying rent or like.
Speaker 3: They got her on pay rolls? Huh? Well, she has
Speaker 3: assisted with several programs.
Speaker 4: So I've been assisting some of the energy medicine programs.
Speaker 3: I wanted to like round out with a little bit
Speaker 3: more Monroe talk, for sure. I really wanted to know,
Speaker 3: like how you got started on your path there.
Speaker 4: Oh, I tell this story a lot. It's a little
Speaker 4: bit long, so forgive me go for it please. So,
Speaker 4: like I said, my dad started having out of body
Speaker 4: experiences when I was about five or six, and yeah,
Speaker 4: changed his life. And yeah, and so he bought me
Speaker 4: a children's meditation tape when I was about six with
Speaker 4: a Walkman, and I would listen to it and I
Speaker 4: would strangely, which I didn't realize that until recently, I
Speaker 4: would because I found it and I listened to it.
Speaker 4: I would float through a rainbow, like on a cloud.
Speaker 4: I'd get on a cloud and it's guided and I
Speaker 4: go through rainbow. And then I would go to a
Speaker 4: river and there was a platypust i'd become friends with.
Speaker 4: And I never remembered what happened after that because I would
Speaker 4: always fall asleep. But so I started meditating as a kid.
Speaker 4: My dad meditated, and when I was a teenager, he
Speaker 4: had Bob's books, Bob Monroe's books, so I read them
Speaker 4: and I was so determined to have an out of
Speaker 4: body experience and did not, you know, one of those.
Speaker 4: I just couldn't get there. So and then in college
Speaker 4: I found Bill Buelman's book.
Speaker 3: I've heard the name, Yeah, what's the book.
Speaker 4: Out of Body? I think it's called Adventures. I'll have
Speaker 4: to look it up. And he had a practice in
Speaker 4: there and I did it like religiously for like he's
Speaker 4: like two over thirty days and I did it and nothing.
Speaker 4: I didn't budge, I didn't float, I didn't Tingle. Nothing happened,
Speaker 4: and so then I got busy with life, you know,
Speaker 4: and years later, since I grew up in the Chicago
Speaker 4: area and I did not even notice the Monroe's tuit
Speaker 4: was a thing in the books or anything. So years
Speaker 4: later I've moved to Virginia, I moved to Richmond, and
Speaker 4: my dad died. He passed away in twenty seventeen. So
Speaker 4: I was going through some of the stuff and I
Speaker 4: found Bob's books and I was like, oh, hey, the
Speaker 4: Internet's been invented since I read these. So I went
Speaker 4: online to see what was going on, and I was
Speaker 4: stunned to see that there was a whole institute and
Speaker 4: it was an hour and a half from my house.
Speaker 4: So I went out that had an open house. I
Speaker 4: don't know that they currently do those, but they did
Speaker 4: then and it was a one day thing and they
Speaker 4: put you in a check unit, they did a couple
Speaker 4: of meditations. Yeah, and Patty Ray was who ran it,
Speaker 4: and she is like a freaking icon at Monroe. I
Speaker 4: don't think you met her.
Speaker 3: I heard the names, know who she is in relationship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's She's amazing. And so I remember when I
Speaker 4: walked in the doors, I was like, oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be here a lot like I just it felt
Speaker 4: like home. And so that's my story. And my dad
Speaker 4: never went. He he had a different meditation practice, so
Speaker 4: he never.
Speaker 3: What was your first program?
Speaker 4: I did OBE with Bill Bilman, which is not offered
Speaker 4: as a program anymore. I believe he is retired from
Speaker 4: doing them in person and they now have an OBE
Speaker 4: Spectrum program. But I did it with him, and I
Speaker 4: went and I was like, sir, I have tried many
Speaker 4: times to get out of my body, and I had
Speaker 4: had an auto body experience by that point, but it
Speaker 4: was sort of like spontaneous and I'm being silly. I
Speaker 4: wasn't like that with him, but he they offered different
Speaker 4: learning styles of how to get out of your body,
Speaker 4: and one of the other ones worked for me. It's
Speaker 4: just the one in the book didn't work for me.
Speaker 3: So you've been there so many times, like literally dozens,
Speaker 3: and like you were telling me before, I hope it's
Speaker 3: okay to say this, but you've assisted with some program. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, like not that she's a residential trainer, but
Speaker 3: she's assisted residential trainer. Yeah's actually been there for you know,
Speaker 3: days and days and days at a time and like
Speaker 3: helped them in the check unit and things like that.
Speaker 3: So she kind of has like a little bit of
Speaker 3: a more intimate experience with the institute, which is very cool. Yeah,
Speaker 3: But I guess what I'm asking is, like how many
Speaker 3: of their can you, like, off the top of your
Speaker 3: head kind of recount like which of the You don't
Speaker 3: have to go in a detail about every one of them,
Speaker 3: but like, of all the different programs, which ones have
Speaker 3: you experienced? You know, if we think like Lifeline.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, So I did the OBE with Bill Bielman,
Speaker 4: Gateway MC squared Remote Viewing one, Conscious Presence, then I
Speaker 4: did Heartline, Energy Medicine. You just did that one, well,
Speaker 4: I assisted it right, Yeah, this is when I originally
Speaker 4: took it. I did Energy Medicine, and then I did Gosh,
Speaker 4: i'm skipping some here. I can't remember. I did Guidelines.
Speaker 4: I've done Explanation twenty seven. I've done Gateway a second time.
Speaker 3: Have you done Lifeline?
Speaker 4: No, I've not done Lifeline.
Speaker 3: That one is like it's fascinating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing Timeline next. I'm really excited about that one. Okay,
Speaker 4: And then gosh, I've done a bunch of other ones.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think what they were. Oh, I did
Speaker 4: the UAP event with your right, with your dad and
Speaker 4: your sister. That was pretty cool. We got a bunch
Speaker 4: of really awesome signals for that, you.
Speaker 3: Know, another really weird synchronousity. So Amy actually knew my
Speaker 3: dad's manager, David Broadwell before we knew him, because she
Speaker 3: was at Monroe with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for remote viewing. What was it the remote It
Speaker 4: was remote viewing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So do you mind if I tell that story?
Speaker 4: Oh it's a freaking hilarious Yeah, yeah, go for it.
Speaker 3: So that would have been what twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: Twenty, No, it was March. It was the first week
Speaker 4: or two of March twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a possibility my dad may have known him
Speaker 3: at that point. I'm not sure, but it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: because they you know, the book was not even out
Speaker 3: until twenty twenty three. Yeah. So she she's in this
Speaker 3: remote viewing program with David and she basically, I mean,
Speaker 3: I want to speak for you. You can take a fa you.
Speaker 4: Me tell sorry, sure, Okay. So the program was full.
Speaker 4: It was a big program, a lot of people in it,
Speaker 4: and I went in with like no expectations, and I
Speaker 4: I did really well because I just didn't have I
Speaker 4: wasn't front loaded on it, you know, and remote viewing
Speaker 4: they teach you how to do it and you can
Speaker 4: just do it. And so apparently, so you know, David
Speaker 4: noticed me because of that, and we ended up chatting.
Speaker 4: I don't know what his interest in was in me
Speaker 4: being able to remote view, but the last night we
Speaker 4: were there, he and I were both driving home, we
Speaker 4: were not flying, and I had been following the news
Speaker 4: and what was going on in other parts of the world.
Speaker 3: And you know COVID hit in March of twenty yeah,
Speaker 3: like the lockdown.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And this was literally like a week before
Speaker 4: the lockdown, and so I knew what was coming. I
Speaker 4: knew we were going to go into all lockdown just
Speaker 4: based on what was happening elsewhere. So I ended up
Speaker 4: talking to him right by the front door for quite
Speaker 4: a while, like twenty minutes or something, and I was like, hey, listen,
Speaker 4: like you on your drive home, you want to stop
Speaker 4: and you want to buy groceries and because this is
Speaker 4: what's happening, and he was like, uh huh oh okay,
Speaker 4: uh huh, yeah, all right, And I could tell he
Speaker 4: was like, what is happening?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like, yeah, hearing it.
Speaker 6: Out of nowhere without the context that we have now
Speaker 6: that it happened, it must have been like okay, yeah, right.
Speaker 4: That might have been his first time at Monroe, and
Speaker 4: he was already a little bit like just trying to
Speaker 4: like see what it was about. And then I'm like, hey, like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, the world's about to shut down. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I wasn't, you know, like I was definitely like
Speaker 4: that person though that was like, hey, heads up. I
Speaker 4: wasn't like crazy about it.
Speaker 3: But anyway, get like a sense like from meditation or
Speaker 3: I mean, you had to have you had to you
Speaker 3: know know somehow Like how did you know? You just
Speaker 3: had intuitive feelings?
Speaker 4: I just I watched international news.
Speaker 3: Yeah she was. She was reading like the Chinese news
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 4: And the Italians and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just I just knew based on I mean just
Speaker 4: based on So here's the thing. I've traveled a lot.
Speaker 4: I've been on almost five hundred flights in my life,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I know how many people fly. I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, I just knew, like we're going on lockdown
Speaker 4: at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, So he was like, okay, right, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: He humored me. A couple of weeks later we went
Speaker 4: on lockdown, and then another couple of weeks go by
Speaker 4: and I get an email from home and he was like, hey, Amy,
Speaker 4: that had a nice meeting you all this, and then
Speaker 4: he goes, I just wanted you know, I thought he
Speaker 4: didn't say it this way, but he's like, I thought
Speaker 4: you were basically a lunatic. I'm sure I said he
Speaker 4: said it in a much more respectful way. He's a
Speaker 4: very nice guy, but it was it was basically like,
Speaker 4: you know, you rocked me. You you. I left there
Speaker 4: being like I don't know and I don't know about
Speaker 4: this girl, and he's like, and you turn out to
Speaker 4: be right. Yeah, And for some reason that just I
Speaker 4: guess endeared him to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know, he trusts everything you say for
Speaker 3: the rest of time. So he got her into the
Speaker 3: UAP events. Yeah, yeah, you were like the only.
Speaker 4: I was like, the only non UA people. Well, there
Speaker 4: was one Monroe person there, a board member, but that's
Speaker 4: because you.
Speaker 6: Know, so the sense I'm getting is that there are
Speaker 6: no borders for you. If there's a place that like
Speaker 6: you shouldn't be able to get into.
Speaker 3: You're in there. You're you're in there immediately.
Speaker 4: There's no borders for any of us, right right, You're like,
Speaker 4: I need I need a but you got to know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, but you know, there's there's hundreds of thousands
Speaker 3: of people around the world who read about and want
Speaker 3: to go to the institute, and they don't have this
Speaker 3: level of relationship that you do. I mean, you are
Speaker 3: in a really good spot.
Speaker 4: Oh for sure. Yeah, you have to. You know, like, well,
Speaker 4: if you want to go to the institute and you
Speaker 4: are in a position where it feels difficult for you,
Speaker 4: just go online, see some pictures of it, see some
Speaker 4: of our videos. Imagine yourself walking the halls, Imagine yourself there.
Speaker 4: Imagine yourself. You know, if if finances are difficult for you,
Speaker 4: imagine that it's already been paid or it's not a
Speaker 4: big deal, and imagine you're there. That's how you would
Speaker 4: manifest it and then see what happens.
Speaker 3: They also have virtual programs.
Speaker 4: They do. They also have virtual and I've done too,
Speaker 4: virtually even though I live in an hour and half.
Speaker 3: Way right, that's very I mean why not, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: it's you know, help helps with with time restraints. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so so Amy, Amy lucked out here. The universe really
Speaker 3: smiled on her with this one. Because when was it
Speaker 3: when you went through Gateway that you were with Alan? Yeah,
Speaker 3: and she's the CEO now, so you know, it's just
Speaker 3: really cool connection there. And she was in the class
Speaker 3: with you when you took it.
Speaker 4: No, Alan was, Alan is the CEO of Monroe. Shout
Speaker 4: out to Alan's.
Speaker 3: Amazing, amazing Evans mirror that she is amazing.
Speaker 4: She is amazing. And she was my first gate A trainer,
Speaker 4: right Okay, I thought she went through that with no.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: And then right after that, a couple of months later,
Speaker 4: I took EMC squared and Alan was a participant in
Speaker 4: MC squared Okay, and we became friends.
Speaker 3: Okay, mm hmm. MC squared sounds cool, sounds science y.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, MC squared is kind of like telekinesis. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like building up your telekinetic energy. They call it psychokinesis.
Speaker 4: I believe you do all sorts of fun things, lighting
Speaker 4: up light bulbs with your hands and.
Speaker 3: Emily, Emily told me something that they do something with.
Speaker 4: The spoon bending you do in there, spoon.
Speaker 3: Bending something with like was it a beach ball. They
Speaker 3: do something with a beach ball, right, like moving it.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't remember the beach ball. But we also
Speaker 4: do dice. You practice with dice, like what is that
Speaker 4: game in gambling with the.
Speaker 3: Dice craps craps?
Speaker 4: Yeah, practice with that you you tell Yeah, you're practicing
Speaker 4: to use your energy to get the dice to be
Speaker 4: a certain way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Emily told me. They also do something like if
Speaker 3: you've seen the first Ghostbusters movie, when they're like showing
Speaker 3: the cards to people and they're trying to like psychically
Speaker 3: figure them out. Remember in the beginning of the movie
Speaker 3: they do that. Oh yeah, yeah, And Emily said they
Speaker 3: were all just like spot on with them. They were
Speaker 3: getting them right. They do all kinds of stuff. I
Speaker 3: saw a video. I'm not going to reveal who, but
Speaker 3: somebody at Monroe. They just prefer to keep it anonymous.
Speaker 3: But somebody at Monroe showed me a video of let's
Speaker 3: just say it was somebody moving something with their mind.
Speaker 4: So, oh, I've I encountered people at Monroe who can
Speaker 4: do things that would blow your mind. And it's just
Speaker 4: like nonchalant, like, oh, hey, by the way, I can
Speaker 4: totally do this thing and then they do it right then,
Speaker 4: and you're.
Speaker 3: Like, but they don't want to make a novelty of it.
Speaker 4: No, it's not a novel.
Speaker 3: It's a serious thing.
Speaker 4: It's a serious thing, but it's it's something that they
Speaker 4: either can naturally do or they've mastered, and it's it's
Speaker 4: astonishing to see how many skills are out there. It's
Speaker 4: things I've never been thought about, and people are just
Speaker 4: like blah.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. They literally have a program. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: an MC square, I don't know. They have a program
Speaker 3: where they like they sit in a circle. I think
Speaker 3: they sit in a circle and they'll all hold a
Speaker 3: light bulb and they take turns lighting them.
Speaker 4: I think that, Yeah that's MC square.
Speaker 3: Yeah there like with their mind, just light light bulbs
Speaker 3: and they do it. They actually do it. God, dude,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Dude, like, oh, yeah, there's a lot of cool stuff
Speaker 4: that happens there, and you know, I love to go there.
Speaker 4: It's it's like a it's like a mystery school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that came through to me a meditation.
Speaker 4: Like a little Hogwarts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally like Hogwarts and Alan is like Dumbledore.
Speaker 4: I'm a sex that later, Hey, Dumbledore, I love.
Speaker 3: Alan, I love Paul, I love all the staff there, and.
Speaker 4: Oh in the food. Okay, listen, you know everyone talks
Speaker 4: about all the programs and everything. The staff at Monroe,
Speaker 4: the housekeeping and the kitchen staff. They are really really
Speaker 4: good people. The food is amazing. They do cater to
Speaker 4: listen to me on my soapbox. They do cater to
Speaker 4: different vegan diets. Yeah, so gluten free, so you can say,
Speaker 4: you know, they ask you when you sign up, and
Speaker 4: they do a really good job with that. The food
Speaker 4: is amazing, you know, and being there as much.
Speaker 3: They have, they have like really good chefs. So like
Speaker 3: when they cook food every day, it's like every meal,
Speaker 3: I swear like every meal was better than the last.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like dinner time and lunchtime.
Speaker 4: We're also happy, happier by the end of the week.
Speaker 3: That's true. But it's just I remember sitting on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: which was I think the third day. We we're you know,
Speaker 3: having lunch in Alan and Paul, and I think Jason
Speaker 3: maybe showed up at that time. Who he's like one
Speaker 3: of the program directors there. They show up and they
Speaker 3: have lunch. Maybe Jason wasn't there. I think he drove
Speaker 3: us to the bookstore. But we're having lunch with the
Speaker 3: CEO and the vice president of Monroe and they're just
Speaker 3: like kind of sitting with us. And that might have
Speaker 3: been when we had lunch with Alan. I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Maybe that was Thursday, because I know they she came twice. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but anyway, one of the times we're sitting having lunch
Speaker 3: with them, and I was telling Allen, I was like, Alan,
Speaker 3: this might sound weird, but I was just in Focus
Speaker 3: fifteen and I just it started coming through to me,
Speaker 3: and you know, you talk to them and they're like,
Speaker 3: it's not weird. We are having a staff retreat right
Speaker 3: now too. We are not grounded either. Like while we
Speaker 3: were up on the top of the mountain doing you know,
Speaker 3: our program, they were at the bottom of the mountain
Speaker 3: at the other retreat and they were doing a program.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, because that's staff. Yeah. I think they
Speaker 3: were doing Heartline.
Speaker 4: Heartline, which is a great program. By the way, what's
Speaker 4: it like? Ah, oh, what you know again, you don't
Speaker 4: want to It's about your heart. It's about connecting with
Speaker 4: your true, authentic self.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 3: I've done some of Alan's meditations, and I think I've
Speaker 3: done some of Paul's in the expand app and it's
Speaker 3: it's just really great. But anyway, I was telling Alan,
Speaker 3: I was like, look, this might sound a little weird,
Speaker 3: but it just came through to me in a meditation
Speaker 3: that Monroe is like a modern emergence of the ancient
Speaker 3: mystery schools. And she was like, that's really interesting. It
Speaker 3: is a mystery school, except they're not like you know, well,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I was wondering if I should say that,
Speaker 3: but because they're like, yeah, this is for everybody, you know.
Speaker 3: It's just it's an amazing place. I would love to
Speaker 3: have Alan on the show. I would love to have
Speaker 3: Paul on the show.
Speaker 4: And are you going to have Agnacia on the show?
Speaker 3: Of course we're already working all the time when he
Speaker 3: could fly out and I'm working on.
Speaker 4: Oh you're gonna have him in person? Yeah? Wow, he's
Speaker 4: on the West coast. That's amazing. He's he's a I
Speaker 4: think it's Seattle. Yeah, he is a magical creature, he
Speaker 4: really is.
Speaker 3: He's he reminds me of Yoda.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, he's a little Yodah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean like enough, good you are.
Speaker 3: He's a great guy. They're all great people.
Speaker 4: They're all they're all really lovely people, and they're if
Speaker 4: you met him out in the street and you just think, you.
Speaker 3: Know, because I had Monroe since, you know, from people
Speaker 3: I knew in the c I A. And and they
Speaker 3: would tell me more of the data of it. I
Speaker 3: always imagine that people would be like, you know, like
Speaker 3: kind of like scientists, but it's it's not like that.
Speaker 4: It's they put out chocolates for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and wet and popcorn porn and everyone's just like
Speaker 3: kind of giggling, and it's it's just.
Speaker 6: You know, a weird thing that happened when when you
Speaker 6: guys were doing the when he was at Monroe, he
Speaker 6: was telling me he got back and was telling me.
Speaker 3: We pop corn every night. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was like, I've had popcorn every night for like
Speaker 6: a week straight and I never eat popcorn.
Speaker 4: Weird.
Speaker 3: It was just like a really weird synchronicity. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4: I put a huge bowl out.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: Awesome, and we all we get little They have like a.
Speaker 3: Cast iron bowl, like a massive one, and they popped
Speaker 3: like a cauldron. Yeah, it's like a cauldron of popcorn
Speaker 3: in cool literally like a big I have a picture
Speaker 3: of it, and they pop bags and bags and bags
Speaker 3: of popcorn, and like some nights we'd be watching documentaries.
Speaker 3: Just everybody's just munching on popcorn like it's it's.
Speaker 4: Where we were outside. And then we we really lucked out.
Speaker 4: Of all the programs I've ever been to, that was
Speaker 4: the only time I had access to the pool. Really,
Speaker 4: they're all like first time. They're like, we're in the pool.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I've been here like fifteen times before I
Speaker 4: got in the pool.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. By the last night, we were all in
Speaker 3: the pool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of us got in the pool last night.
Speaker 3: Like fifteen of us in the pool at the same time.
Speaker 3: What's up with the exclusivity about the pool?
Speaker 4: How come you can't give you It's at the the
Speaker 4: Roberts Mountain road the top of the there's two there's
Speaker 4: the campuses, and it's only open in the summer, and
Speaker 4: it's like the majority of programs are at the other campus.
Speaker 3: I see, Okay, yeah, at the bottom of the Mountain's
Speaker 3: awesome to do that. Yeah, and they kept us there
Speaker 3: like at the top of the mountain. But it's all awesome.
Speaker 4: You know, but and we were with We had Bob's cabin,
Speaker 4: which was really cool.
Speaker 3: We did our lessons in there every day, like in
Speaker 3: his actual Kevin like where he did his cabin. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like literally his original log cabin. And I met
Speaker 3: his daughter and I had no clue who she was.
Speaker 3: Oh really like literally like I.
Speaker 4: Penny, right, Penny, Yeah, Penny.
Speaker 3: She's at the bookstore, right.
Speaker 4: I don't know who was down there? Yes, Penny because
Speaker 4: she was running heartlines.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I met the other one. I'm at the
Speaker 3: bookstore and I meet this this just very sweet lady.
Speaker 3: And you know she They took us to the bookstore.
Speaker 3: I think it was on Thursday.
Speaker 4: Drive them, Yeah, they had.
Speaker 3: To drive us. J and drove us and Jason showed up. Jason. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's the one who put us through the like visual
Speaker 3: psychedelic experience. Did you do that?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was crazy. What is that called? He
Speaker 4: calls it something I always want to say, Ragnarok. I
Speaker 4: thought you were about to say that. It's not it's
Speaker 4: something Rakovic.
Speaker 3: Rakovic is where I was in uh.
Speaker 4: Iceland via Rock Civia.
Speaker 3: I have the videos picture it does it sounds like
Speaker 3: I'm like so Jason is that what it is? I'm
Speaker 3: gonna find the picture of it. Jason shows up and
Speaker 3: he's like just this friendliest, smiliest guy. And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I just thought he was the driver. No, I don't
Speaker 3: know anybody. He shows up, he's driving the van. He's like,
Speaker 3: everybody get in, you know, and he's like the party's here.
Speaker 3: You know, He's just kind of driving us in the
Speaker 3: van and I'm thinking, wow, you know, the chefs have
Speaker 3: been so nice. Even bus drive. He's like the program director.
Speaker 3: He's like one of the highest up. And you know,
Speaker 3: he's just driving us down there. And we get to
Speaker 3: the bookstore and you know, everybody's so nice. The lady
Speaker 3: at the cash register in the bookstore and this just
Speaker 3: really sweet lady walks up. She gives me a hug.
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm a big hugger, y'all. I apologize in advance.
Speaker 3: I was like me too, I give her a big hug.
Speaker 3: She has all these Christmas. Yeah. I find out like
Speaker 3: two days later like that was Robert Monroe stepped off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I was like, what the If I had no,
Speaker 3: I would have behaved differently. No, she's so.
Speaker 4: Down to earth and I want to say about Jason.
Speaker 4: This is super funny. Jason is a trooper. We decided
Speaker 4: we wanted to do that light show thing, and so
Speaker 4: he came up after he had been I think he'd
Speaker 4: been at the staff retreat like all day, and he
Speaker 4: came up and set it up for us, and we
Speaker 4: were graduating from Gateway that night in the cabin. This
Speaker 4: is so funny, and he's all by himself, said this
Speaker 4: whole thing up for us, that we were supposed to
Speaker 4: come over and have like a kind of like a
Speaker 4: party afterwards, and they don't normally party like that, but
Speaker 4: it was like a special thing. And he can see
Speaker 4: us through the windows. Do you remember this? And we
Speaker 4: turned the music on to graduate, which also doesn't normally happen,
Speaker 4: and we started having Yeah, Keem starts turning the music on.
Speaker 4: We started having this crazy dance party. He's like sitting
Speaker 4: across at a different building like through the window for
Speaker 4: that He's created a party for us, and he's watching
Speaker 4: us like in the windows, and he's like.
Speaker 3: What He's like, He's like this, this summarizes this, This
Speaker 3: summarizes Look at that cheese that looks like a happy
Speaker 3: He's just the happiest guy.
Speaker 4: He is a happy Berdon and he's just okay. So
Speaker 4: that's segueing into a cable car.
Speaker 3: He also looks like a really happy guy. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: cable car. We got to end with cab.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to am a cable car. So are
Speaker 4: we good for that then? Yeah. So there is a
Speaker 4: Bob Monroe classic track that they play in the mornings
Speaker 4: for some of the main Monroe programs. It is a
Speaker 4: love hate situation. I am on the love side.
Speaker 3: It's fifty to fifty split. People love it or they
Speaker 3: do not, or they hate.
Speaker 4: It, and it is so quirky and and so Jason
Speaker 4: made a remix of it, but it's like, I don't
Speaker 4: even know how to do it.
Speaker 3: So I'll show you after. I'll show you after. But
Speaker 3: Robert Monroe made this song.
Speaker 4: It's so quirky.
Speaker 3: Keep in mind this was like decades ago, and he's
Speaker 3: not a musician by any sense of the imagination.
Speaker 4: It doesn't follow me.
Speaker 3: So like I heard Maya. Maya was one of our trainers,
Speaker 3: and like the way she explained it to me is
Speaker 3: she's like, she's like, cable car. It's just so amazing
Speaker 3: because it's it's really wholesome and it's really innocent, but
Speaker 3: it's kind of psychotic.
Speaker 4: You gotta hear it.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just imagine like a really uh just innocent,
Speaker 3: like open hearted.
Speaker 4: Oh it's duke, do do do do do, dude, I'm
Speaker 4: not really good at carrying it.
Speaker 3: Shoe just just like pouring their heart out into a
Speaker 3: little mini keyboard and like loving making a song with
Speaker 3: zero music ability. That's kind of awesome. So it's it's
Speaker 3: kind of like a it's like a classic, like you know,
Speaker 3: wake up to the up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a car. It's like a like a
Speaker 4: carnival where you're starting to go slow, it ramps up
Speaker 4: and goes faster and so you wake up, you do.
Speaker 4: We we listen to sleep signals when we're sleeping, and
Speaker 4: then there is a morning exercise I think is it.
Speaker 4: It's Bob comes on Bob and Roe's voice and he's like,
Speaker 4: so I turned it off. He's like, good morning, and
Speaker 4: it's a good morning.
Speaker 3: It's a good day. So get up and go.
Speaker 4: So get up and go, and he starts talking to
Speaker 4: you about some stuff and uh, and then they play
Speaker 4: cable car Yeah, and I lay there and I just
Speaker 4: bask in it. I have bought Cable Car.
Speaker 3: Get it.
Speaker 4: I love it, and sometimes I listen to it at
Speaker 4: home because it sort of like pulls you out of
Speaker 4: the the sleep. But so every time I go to
Speaker 4: a different program and they don't play a Cable Car,
Speaker 4: I'm like, where is it? Excuse me? Can we listen
Speaker 4: to Cable Car?
Speaker 1: And I hear.
Speaker 3: This is a polarizing.
Speaker 2: I have it.
Speaker 3: I got to hear it. But people love it, right,
Speaker 3: you know. I'm in the love It.
Speaker 4: I'm in the love It crowd. And Jason. The reason
Speaker 4: I thought about it is Jason made a really cool
Speaker 4: remix of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we were talking about David earlier. David Broadwell, So
Speaker 3: when I'm leaving the mountain, Look, I've never had a
Speaker 3: phone call from him before because he, you know, works
Speaker 3: so closely with Dad. We will text and you know,
Speaker 3: things like that when we're trying to like help Dad
Speaker 3: in certain ways and you know, help him with the
Speaker 3: book and other things, you know, booking him on shows
Speaker 3: and things. I get off the mountain and he says, Ryan,
Speaker 3: call me, and I'm like, this is okay. Sure. I
Speaker 3: pick up my phone and I call him and he
Speaker 3: said he was like, Ryan, how was it He was like,
Speaker 3: you were at Monroe. What happened?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you've been through it. I feel like
Speaker 3: we're brothers now, like you know, it's like you've been
Speaker 3: through the same thing. He was like, I want to
Speaker 3: know everything. How was it? He was like, dude, I've
Speaker 3: been bugging Alan all week, so long story short. He
Speaker 3: was pressuring Alan like please, Chris's son is there, Like
Speaker 3: I want to be there with him while he goes
Speaker 3: through the experience. And She's like, David, you can't just
Speaker 3: walk in on this. He wanted to be there. He
Speaker 3: wanted to to see what it was like with me
Speaker 3: going through it. And Alan was like, no, you can
Speaker 3: come to lunch, you know, on Friday, but you can't,
Speaker 3: you know, be here during the experience. And he was
Speaker 3: like tell me everything. Did you hear a cable car?
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, just everything. He was like
Speaker 3: did you see this? And did you see that? This?
Speaker 4: Classic?
Speaker 3: I mean his I've never He's a very like you
Speaker 3: know task guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah you met him.
Speaker 3: He's very like sincere, He's very like straight, let's get
Speaker 3: it done, you know. He was like with Glee when
Speaker 3: we were.
Speaker 1: How was it? Did you do this?
Speaker 3: Did you do this, and he was like, you're like
Speaker 3: my brother. Now, man, we've been through it. Like you
Speaker 3: need anything, call me and I just I hung up
Speaker 3: and I called Dad. I was like, Dad, and I
Speaker 3: do It's something amazing just happened.
Speaker 4: So I do want to say, if you're interested in
Speaker 4: going to Monroe. Sometimes they do two programs at the
Speaker 4: different campuses at the same time, and they don't you
Speaker 4: don't cross mingle. They they there's a reason. It's you're
Speaker 4: having a group experience, which is by David wasn't going
Speaker 4: to be able to come and like the staff sometimes
Speaker 4: come and have lunch with us because they're you know,
Speaker 4: getting to know us. But you are with that group
Speaker 4: and so you're not running and you're not running back
Speaker 4: and forth to the other group at a different program.
Speaker 4: Even on the bookstore days, we trade bookstore days, so
Speaker 4: like we would do like Tuesday Thursday, they would do
Speaker 4: like Monday Wednesday. But the lake, there is a lake
Speaker 4: and that is one place where yeah, you didn't go
Speaker 4: to No, No, I've been there many times. And that's
Speaker 4: in between the two.
Speaker 3: Because it's like it's like a mile walk, right, I didn't.
Speaker 4: It's it's towards it's closer to the other campus on
Speaker 4: the bottom, so you got to walk all the way
Speaker 4: down in the back up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was it was either Jordan or
Speaker 3: Hackeen walked down and then walked up and they were
Speaker 3: like I should have done that, So I was like,
Speaker 3: not for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's easier from the from the other campus. You
Speaker 4: don't have to walk up the mountain. But yeah, cable car.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think, uh, I think you
Speaker 3: could buy a cable car. Yeah, I'm gonna buy it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy We're gonna turn it on when we close. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I I just I have to say,
Speaker 3: you know, like I'm I'm so thankful that after that
Speaker 3: week there that we shared together that I mean, you're
Speaker 3: now sitting here in my house. Yeah, Like that's that's
Speaker 3: important to say that on episode eighty five, that's when
Speaker 3: you were on right.
Speaker 4: Well, thank god that I told David and needed groceries
Speaker 4: because this he's that whole conversation started this chain of
Speaker 4: me sitting here because then I was at the U sister. Honestly, yeah,
Speaker 4: thank god, I was like, God's up groceries.
Speaker 3: David's a great guy. We really clicked with the Monroe thing,
Speaker 3: and he's he's just he's a really cool guy. But
Speaker 3: you know episode eighty five, we were all like we're
Speaker 3: gonna manifest meeting each other. Here we are. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: basically live together for a week up in Row. I
Speaker 3: mean obviously like in different buildings, but you know, a
Speaker 3: class together all day, breakfast, lunch, you know, everybody go
Speaker 3: meditate and we talk about it. I mean, it was
Speaker 3: it was like a very serious.
Speaker 4: Weeks like summer camp for adults.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: It's it's like I keep saying, it's like fifty percent
Speaker 3: spiritual spa fifty percent mystery school. Like you go there
Speaker 3: and you relax, and you know they even have massage
Speaker 3: therapists and yoga and you know, everybody's laughing and having
Speaker 3: a good time. But then you like you get to
Speaker 3: work and it was just really an amazing experience experience,
Speaker 3: and we all you know, formed bonds together with our group,
Speaker 3: and like here we are and like I think this
Speaker 3: is just the tip of the iceberg. And like I
Speaker 3: think like in some way I can see like us,
Speaker 3: like our group somehow getting more involved with Monroe and way,
Speaker 3: you know, we kind of already working on something there.
Speaker 3: But I just wanted to say that I'm grateful that
Speaker 3: you came out here, that you were willing to do this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you for having me, that we had
Speaker 3: that experience together. I think that there will be more
Speaker 3: experiences that, like you have been telling me for the
Speaker 3: last you know, two days, Like I don't think any
Speaker 3: of us realized like how big that.
Speaker 4: Was, Yeah, because they realized it.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were the first group of content creators ever
Speaker 4: to ever ever to be put into a program together.
Speaker 4: It was really it was really unique, Yeah, because we
Speaker 4: all agreed to film each other. And I have so
Speaker 4: much content. I haven't even posted about it yet, Sane.
Speaker 3: I want to see it. I want to see all
Speaker 3: that content. I'm still working on stuff. It's just it's
Speaker 3: been so busy, but I've got stuff I'm going to
Speaker 3: drip out over time. But you know, it's just I'm
Speaker 3: so grateful and thank you for coming out here. I
Speaker 3: just I can't say it enough. Like I know I've
Speaker 3: said it multiple times, but I'm so glad that we
Speaker 3: all like kind of had that experience together. And now
Speaker 3: here you are and you're you're you know, you're with
Speaker 3: kind of like with my crew and yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: and like more are coming in a few weeks.
Speaker 4: And but I even met Alex's b f F. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: randomly at the coffee shop.
Speaker 3: We're getting I you're coming on the show real soon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, if if, if there's any last words, if
Speaker 3: there's anything on your heart or your mind you want
Speaker 3: to get out there, I mean, whatever that you want
Speaker 3: to close us out with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do want to say any If you're watching this,
Speaker 4: like I said before, and you're interested in Monroe and
Speaker 4: it feels out of your reach, just start, like I said,
Speaker 4: start imagining that you're there. There's there's other ways to
Speaker 4: get there. You know. That's the whole thing. That's what
Speaker 4: I've kind of been able to master. Is Okay, that
Speaker 4: door is closed. Okay, well I'm gonna imagine I'm standing
Speaker 4: on the other side of it and and life will
Speaker 4: meet you. To do that, you might have to you
Speaker 4: might have to repeat it. But one of the best
Speaker 4: ways is to again look at content, imagine yourself there,
Speaker 4: and you know, see what happens. You can manifest your
Speaker 4: way there if you need.
Speaker 3: To, epic, epic, truly epic. All right, well, guys, be
Speaker 3: sure to support Amy. She is a wonderful human being.
Speaker 3: She really does illuminate joy. You could say that she glows.
Speaker 3: I glo. She does. She does.
Speaker 4: She is not radiating shame. She is illuminating joy, illuminating.
Speaker 4: Oh one quick thing, I am not part of the Illuminati,
Speaker 4: so wow, thanks for clearing that up.
Speaker 3: Thanks for clearing that up.
Speaker 4: The word illumination is in the word illuminating. And I
Speaker 4: did not realize that when I made that name. And
Speaker 4: so many people have asked me if I if they
Speaker 4: can join, and I always reply, when you find out,
Speaker 4: let me know how.
Speaker 2: That I.
Speaker 3: Of the crazy things that I've seen in my life,
Speaker 3: I never expected that I am not in the Illuminati
Speaker 3: would come out of your mouth. So that is hilarious
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 4: If if I'm I, you know, I'll apply that somebody,
Speaker 4: somebody let me out check it out.
Speaker 3: That is hilarious.
Speaker 4: But so many people over the years have messaged me,
Speaker 4: They're like, clearly, you know, I want to join the
Speaker 4: Illuminati like you, And I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, what when did I do that? It's illuminating illuminating
Speaker 3: joy on YouTube and on Instagram. She's a wonderful person.
Speaker 3: She's a friend of the show. If you are just
Speaker 3: catching this and you're kind of new to the show,
Speaker 3: please go check out her episode on eighty five. And
Speaker 3: it is bonkers because we clearly on there say that
Speaker 3: we're going to manifest meeting each other, which again you
Speaker 3: could say, well, you could always drive there consciously meet
Speaker 3: each other. That's fine. We both had no clue that
Speaker 3: we were gonna be there at Monroe together.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and this type of program didn't even exist
Speaker 4: when we said that, And that's what happens a lot
Speaker 4: of times manifestations. They look like they would have happened anyway,
Speaker 4: But that's the mark of a wonderful manifestation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean anyway, So you know how we end.
Speaker 1: It, right?
Speaker 4: Oh yes, goodbye?
Speaker 3: Guys, agree dude one by guy.
Speaker 1: Guys, Weird things happen in the backyard of Bletsoe House.
Speaker 1: Hit look up.
Speaker 2: It's so weird.
Speaker 1: Coming closer to us right like smirre ling on the
Speaker 1: inside of it. No one knows that it's come right ever,
Speaker 1: sighed not a happy