WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:05.919 It's nice. I'm telling you Boston's News Radio. 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:08.919 All right, we are talking about a story that is 3 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:14.199 actually developing even as we talk here. Apparently the United 4 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:17.519 States and Ukraine have agreed on a minerals deal which 5 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:23.320 might be the key to end the Russian Ukraine War, 6 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:28.160 and we're just talking about it. I will give you 7 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:32.920 my thirty second synopsis, and that is that Donald Trump 8 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:35.640 has come in. I think he has a different relationship 9 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:43.200 with Russian President Putin than President Biden had. I don't know. 10 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:46.679 I don't think they're friends, but I think that Putin 11 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:52.920 is feels less comfortable to some extent with Trump because 12 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:59.759 he probably knows that Trump is unpredictable. And what Trump 13 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:03.240 has done apparently in the last twenty four hours with 14 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.200 President Zelensky has agreed on some sort of a mineral 15 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:10.239 oil and gas deal where we are going to get 16 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:14.480 fifty percent of these mineral deposits and oil and gas. 17 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:17.959 I don't know exactly how much it's worth, but we 18 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:24.280 will have a big stake in Ukraine's natural resources, which 19 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:26.760 is not going to be a NATO membership for Ukraine, 20 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:28.519 but I think it does give them a sense of 21 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:32.920 security that it is not likely that Russia is going 22 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:38.439 to turn around and reinvade Ukraine. So and President Zelenski, 23 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.640 who last week was called a dictator on a couple 24 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:45.159 of occasions by President Trump, we'll be visiting him and 25 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:48.239 apparently signing this deal on Friday, if the New York 26 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:53.519 Times is to be believed. So with that, are you surprised, 27 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:56.480 I'm pleasantly surprised. If this brings the end of the 28 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:01.519 war with Russia and Ukraine, that's a good thing if everybody, 29 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.799 when you come to an agreement like this, unless one 30 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:08.919 side has won overwhelmingly, if there's a stalemate, no one's 31 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:12.240 going to get out of the cake, but everybody hopefully 32 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:16.479 walks away feeling that they're okay. Ukraine has suffered tremendous losses, 33 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:20.520 Russia suffered tremendous losses, and maybe they both realize that 34 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.120 they're in a situation where the losses are only going 35 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.879 to continue on both sides. And maybe Donald Trump was 36 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.280 spawned enough to see that and play that, and play 37 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:34.319 both Zelenski and Putin and convince them that it's in 38 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:37.319 their interest to end the war. If it is. If 39 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:40.680 that's the way it works, then I will say hats 40 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.759 off to President Trump. I don't think Joe Biden would 41 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:47.120 have been able to do that. You can agree or disagree. 42 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:50.120 Here we go. Ron is next to Newton. Ron, thanks 43 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.439 for giving me those extra seconds to start the hour. 44 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:53.479 You are next on nightside. 45 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.840 Ron, go right ahead, Hi Dan, So thank you very much. 46 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.840 I think that this is a I think it's a 47 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:07.319 brilliant business move. I mean President Trump is a business 48 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:14.400 person first and foremost. I think, you know, it reminds 49 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:18.280 me of nineteen ninety four when the mg H and Brigamore, 50 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:24.840 to everyone's surprise, merged, you know, in the face of competition, 51 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.159 and that was a brilliant move. They took advantage of 52 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.439 economies of scale, or at least they tried to, or 53 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:36.319 they were heading in that direction. So economically it was 54 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:41.680 the a good move in the face of what we 55 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:48.479 were pacing. And as you said a few moments ago, 56 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:53.080 I mean, they they may not walk away with all 57 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:57.479 the pieces of the cake that they wanted, but think 58 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:03.680 about this simplified theory behind Adam Smith's economic theory in 59 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:09.919 seventeen seventy six, he basically said that every person that 60 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:18.839 inadvertently helps themselves inadvertently helps create a better outcome for all. 61 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:25.920 And you know, I think that I think it's a 62 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:29.959 business move. It's no different than mergers and acquisitions. And 63 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:39.040 sometimes they're they're peaceful, sometimes their hostile takeovers. But this 64 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:41.480 is that's what I'm thinking. 65 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.959 Well sometimes it's and I agree with you by the way, 66 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.120 that this is a business deal as much as it 67 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:51.199 is a peace treaty or a cease fire. And it's 68 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.279 too bad that, I mean, it's it's horrific that that 69 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:57.279 many people on both sides had to die. I mean, 70 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:05.439 I remember early in the war watching the Ukrainian shoulder 71 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:10.600 fired heat seeking missiles destroy Russian tanks. I saw these 72 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:15.720 these incredible videos where the Russian tanks were driving in 73 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:20.160 the countryside of Ukraine and they were sitting targets and 74 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:24.439 the Ukrainian soldiers with these, you know, again, just rocket 75 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:29.519 fired heat seeking missiles. I guess it just blew the. 76 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.399 Lots of lots of kids were lost their homes and 77 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.439 the parents. And I remember you having two guests on 78 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:39.879 from the Cape Carty area who had gone and volunteered 79 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:42.160 to find them homes in Poland. 80 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.000 Yes, Jim Peterson, Yeah, absolutely. 81 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:54.680 I absolutely, you know, I think it's uh, it's an 82 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:58.639 economic move to me, I like the I like moving quickly. 83 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:03.439 It reminds me of the surgeons on are a disaster 84 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:06.519 response team. You have to go with the information that 85 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:09.600 you have at hand and move quickly. Yep, you can't 86 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:14.839 sit on it. So those are my thoughts. 87 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:19.319 Well well spoken, well articulated. As always, Ron, I appreciate 88 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.199 your call. Hopefully you're feeling a little bit better day 89 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:26.319 by day. I hope, yes, great, great, we'll talk. Thank thanks, 90 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:29.439 thank you much, appreciate the call. Take quick break coming 91 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.600 right back on Night's side. More phone calls coming up, 92 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:36.279 the only line open, six one, seven nine talking. This 93 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:40.040 is actually a good story. There's no controversy here. There 94 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.480 may be some controversy. There may be some people who 95 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:46.519 feel that that Ukraine has been forced into this, but 96 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.959 maybe forced into this for their own benefit. That's that's 97 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:53.000 a tough way to look at it. But that's that's 98 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:57.000 my perception right now. I don't know how long Ukraine 99 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.360 could go on. I don't know how well. I know 100 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:04.120 Russia could go on a long long time. But it's 101 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:07.639 a losing proposition for both. Back we go to the calls. 102 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:10.240 We're going next, Let's go to Mike and Beverley. Mike, 103 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:15.879 you were next on nightside. Welcome sir, Hey, Danny, I 104 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.160 can hear you fine, speak right into the phone though, Mike, 105 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:19.279 let's hear you go ahead. 106 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.639 So I knew this was coming, I mean listened to it. 107 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:24.079 Uh. 108 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:27.360 You know, as far as the call goes about the 109 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.560 earlier college John, I think it was about Joe Biden 110 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:35.279 stuff like that. You know, Joe Biden orchestrated how Ukraine 111 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:40.279 to do the war, knock him certain ammunition, knock him 112 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:45.959 certain planes hell Ukraine. Solinsky right hand behind his back. 113 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:50.000 So you know, Solinski was kind of did the best 114 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:52.519 week kurve what he had at the at the wheel. 115 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:56.360 But you know he wasn't providing all the recoverment to win 116 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:59.279 the war. Whatever whatever comes to it, all well. 117 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.759 We go and I and I think the Bidy administration 118 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.920 did that uh intentionally. And I think that that Bolinsky 119 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:11.720 uh Zelensky was going to be asking for a military weaponry, 120 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:15.519 uh the best he could get. But we were concerned 121 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.959 about the missiles that we would give him, what the 122 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.240 range of those missiles were. We didn't want him popping 123 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:25.480 a missile out of Kiev or out of Ukraine. That 124 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:28.439 was going to hit the Kremlin. I mean that you 125 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:30.519 would have World War three at that point. 126 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:33.240 Yeah, I get that, and that was the point this 127 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:33.879 was coming to. 128 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.000 But I think, like, you know, just think about it. 129 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:40.600 Trump'spavius thirty five days. He's done more than Biden's done 130 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.519 in four years, you know, and I think time of 131 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:45.960 the master and yeah, I know you want to, you know, 132 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:50.559 call Ukraine. Uh so let's addictate you today. It's a 133 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:54.720 master craft Trump does. I know we sometimes disagree with that, 134 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:56.360 but the guy. 135 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:57.000 Is very good. 136 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.080 He is very very good. 137 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.320 Well as as as we often say, let's wait till 138 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.480 the hay is in the barn. I mean, it's you 139 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:09.240 know that this deal is not completed. When peace breaks out, 140 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.279 let's we can celebrate. But but I think we're on 141 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:15.120 talk shows. What we do is we try to talk 142 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:16.759 about we try to be ahead of the curve and 143 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:19.240 talk about what we think this might be heading. This 144 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:21.759 to me is a really interesting development. I think it's 145 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:26.960 a positive development. Let's let's uh, let's keep our fingers 146 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:28.399 crossed and let's hope for the best. 147 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:29.840 Yeah. 148 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:33.360 I think he's like right there, he's not the one. Yeah, 149 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:35.879 when I heard today he's right there. 150 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:39.360 So well, he's at. 151 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.960 The one yard he's at the one yard line with Zelinsky. 152 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:44.759 I think he's he's got to get a few first 153 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.159 downs to put the ball in the end zone with Putin. 154 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:49.360 Yeah, I get it. 155 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:50.679 But they're already talking. 156 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:54.960 I know. I'm not trying to I'm not trying to 157 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:59.159 throw water on your here. I just I'm just trying 158 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:02.240 to say, look, let's not get too far ahead. Let's 159 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:03.840 I want to be ahead of the curb, but I 160 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:05.639 don't want to be so far ahead of the curb. 161 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:07.320 I'm over the cliff. You know what I'm saying. 162 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.559 Okay, Yeah, I get it. 163 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:16.559 Thanks talk, Thanks Bud, good night, Let's keep rolling. He 164 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.039 got Doreen and Chelsea. Doreen, thank you for calling in. 165 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:25.159 Unfortunately we get few women on these these issues of 166 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:28.440 Warren Peace, which which drives me crazy. But it's great 167 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:30.200 to hear your voice. Doreen. How are you tonight? 168 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:31.559 Good? 169 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.039 I like I like to debate on politics and everything 170 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:41.159 both sides. Well, I don't yes. When President Biden was 171 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:46.080 into office, I don't think he trusted either one of them, 172 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:52.399 and I think that President Trump does not trust either 173 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:55.720 one of them. No one does, because if you go 174 00:10:55.919 --> 00:11:00.159 right back to the Kennedy years. President and Kennedy it 175 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:03.080 had a good report where Kruse Chef I think it was. 176 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.440 It was Kruse Chef, Yes, it was, he had he 177 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:08.879 had a he had a pretty good report after the 178 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.159 after the Cuban missile crisis. 179 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:18.679 Right, but the same time he got assassinated, right, yes 180 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:26.159 he did. Okay, So now I don't think Trump trusts 181 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:30.480 any of them for what I you know, see on 182 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:34.679 TV or read or I listened to you or talk shows. 183 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.679 It's the same thing over and over. We cannot trust 184 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:45.799 Russia never, and we cannot ever trust China second, because 185 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.879 of the Space Shuttle and everything. It's very complicated. It's 186 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:54.759 jealousy is the ruination, which comes power and money after. 187 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:56.720 That's how I feel. 188 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:01.399 I don't disagree with you, To be honest with you, 189 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.159 I don't disagree with you at all. I think that 190 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:10.279 uh that you're you're you're correct. Every country is out 191 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:12.840 in what they consider to be their interests. 192 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:16.279 Uh right, good? 193 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:22.240 Right? And then Geneva Switzerland, wasn't that the major place 194 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:24.480 that they held the peace talks before? 195 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:32.039 Well, Switzerland has always maintained it's its neutrality. Uh, even 196 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:36.000 in World War Two. Switzerland never aligned itself to the 197 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.960 best of my knowledge with either uh, you know, Germany 198 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:42.679 or Britain, or the United States or France. I mean 199 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:46.120 they've they've always been on the sideline there. And of 200 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.639 course they're they're great industry in Switzerland, as you know, 201 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.039 is banking. I mean, that's right, and I guess the 202 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:57.080 Alp skiing and and that's what that's what Switzerland is 203 00:12:57.080 --> 00:13:01.559 all about. And we have used Swiss diplomat as intermediaries. 204 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:04.919 They have good relationships with all countries in the world. 205 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.960 So when we had to talk to Iran during the 206 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.440 Iran hostage crisis, we did it through Swiss diplomats and 207 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:16.320 and interim Swiss diplomats. So the Swiss have had, you know, 208 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.919 irrelevance there. But I think the point you make is 209 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:23.480 that countries function in their own best interest. Now, we 210 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:28.720 as a democratic society have different presidents, and different presidents 211 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:32.080 view the world a little differently. I think Joe Biden 212 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.120 has a very different view of the world and what 213 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:38.519 our relationship should be with the European community than Donald Trump. 214 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.840 That's just a reality that that we have the benefit of. 215 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.600 We go from a Biden to a Trump. Biden didn't 216 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.200 have a great foreign policy. It didn't. He messed up 217 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:57.279 with the Afghanist Afghan withdrawal, and and that many people 218 00:13:57.320 --> 00:13:59.879 feel in August the twenty twenty one that that is 219 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.799 what encourage Putin to go ahead and move on Ukraine. 220 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:08.759 And I happen to subscribe to that belief right that 221 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.759 he now thought we were weak, and he thought, Okay, 222 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:13.919 now's the time for me to move. 223 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:19.919 So now, not to interrupt you, but Israel, Israel is 224 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.960 one of our top allies. It's not really a big country, 225 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:28.480 as you know, but there was a time when remember 226 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:35.679 the studs got missile affair. At that time wasn't wasn't Israel. 227 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:40.840 Israel sat back, but it could take only this much 228 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:45.320 would bring us right up. Now today that don't mess 229 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.879 around with Israel because they can take so much. And 230 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:51.960 now it's starting all over again. I seen it, the 231 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:57.120 bombing back and forth. Israel was the first one that 232 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:02.759 went right ahead and missile it bomb that country. And 233 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:07.919 therefore everybody stood behind in the United States always stays 234 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:14.639 behind Israel because it's an ally, and Israel is going 235 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:16.320 to stand up for us. 236 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:21.799 Is our is our only true ally in the Middle 237 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:26.639 East at the same time. At the same time, if 238 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:32.919 Israel feels what is in their best interest diverges from 239 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.600 the US, Israel rightfully so will do what they believe 240 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:39.159 is in the best interest for Israel. Because Israel is 241 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:42.919 surrounded by enemies. We're not surrounded by enemies. We're We're 242 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:47.519 surrounded by you know, two oceans, Canada and Mexico. Pretty 243 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:48.320 lucky in that. 244 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:55.159 Regard, right right, all right, thank you very much. 245 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:57.960 Keep calling, have a great night. Let me get one 246 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.600 more in here. Yeah, we get Steven Merrimack, New Hampshire, 247 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:06.320 Steve next to a Nightsacker right ahead. Okay, if we 248 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:09.879 don't have Steve ready, we can put I'm here. I 249 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:10.240 didn't hear. 250 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:11.519 I didn't hear you say my name. 251 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:14.320 Well, Steve your next on Nightsager right ahead. 252 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.039 Okay, I didn't hear you say I'm sorry. You know, 253 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.519 I just want to say that, you know, Trump is 254 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:25.440 the art of the deal master, and I think that 255 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:30.399 part of this negotiations that he's making comes down to 256 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:36.120 the rare earth minerals versus future military aid and his 257 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:42.960 promise that he would end the war, you know, relatively quickly, 258 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:46.759 and when he became president, so all of this falls together. 259 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.480 You get to look at it from different aspects. And 260 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:54.440 I believe that you know, his you know, comment about 261 00:16:55.000 --> 00:17:00.039 Zelensky being a dictator was music to Putin's ears. You 262 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:04.279 though Putin is a dictator. You know, any acrimony between 263 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:10.240 you know, Trump and Zelenski is music to Putin's ears. 264 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:13.920 So it's all fitting together. I think that this is 265 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:17.799 as you correctly assessed. I think this is going to 266 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:21.400 turn out very very well. I think that we're probably 267 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:23.880 going to wind up in a situation where the war 268 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:28.599 ends and there's going to be some intermediary to keep 269 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:32.759 the size apart, and it will be I think it's 270 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.359 going to happen by the end of March. 271 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:39.200 Actually, I would not be surprised. I think it's moving 272 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:43.599 very quickly. And they are talking about, like Korea, some 273 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:49.960 form of an international peacekeeping force in the in Ukraine. 274 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:52.559 That would be a I think that would be a 275 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:54.480 part of it, and it would not be a NATO 276 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:57.079 force per se, but it would be an international force. 277 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:03.119 So they will never allow. NATO would be a non 278 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:06.559 starter for Boot and that's the one thing he doesn't 279 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:10.119 want to have happened. So I think something we could 280 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:11.720 always coming on. 281 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:15.599 Yeah, they'd have to figure it out. You know, who 282 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.400 would be the countries that would would be part of that. 283 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.480 But I think that they could find countries. I don't 284 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:27.519 know at this point. It has been a very fast 285 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:32.160 paced first five weeks for the Trump administration. And if 286 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:36.079 by the end of March peace is broken out, the 287 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:39.759 war between Russia and Ukraine has least is at least 288 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:44.000 a cease fire as opposed to a treaty even or whatever. Hey, 289 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:46.000 who's going to argue with that? 290 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:50.960 You know, under Biden, all was happening is you know, 291 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:55.079 we were sending more military aid and we weren't negotiating, 292 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:58.160 We weren't doing anything. Then the conflict, which is you know, 293 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:00.440 it was just going to keep going on in three 294 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:04.440 years is long enough. I don't think Russia, I don't 295 00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:06.759 think they really think they're gonna win this war they 296 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:08.519 fought at the beginning, they were going I thought they 297 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:10.799 were gonna march right in and take over the country 298 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.240 and work out that one's not gonna happen the way they. 299 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.240 Yeah, I hear you, I hear you. Look, I appreciate 300 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:22.119 your call, Steve, Thank you so much for joining us tonight. 301 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:25.680 Talk to you soon. Thank you much. 302 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:28.799 Appreciate your opinion. Almost one hundred percent of the time. 303 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:32.759 We're on the same page. Yeah, that well, I appreciate that. 304 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:36.480 Whether people of great disagree, you're always welcome here on Nightside. 305 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:37.920 Thanks against Steve, thank. 306 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:39.119 You, thank you very much, thank you. 307 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:42.680 Good night. Okay, back we go. We're going to go 308 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:45.680 to Barbara in the Haunt. Barbara, welcome next on Nightside. 309 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.920 Go Dan, I'm gonna be your first time callers. 310 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.079 All right, Barbara, first time caller. Get a little rout 311 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:55.039 of applause. I don't know if you got that studio 312 00:19:55.079 --> 00:20:00.640 audience applause. They are studio audi. He's given you a 313 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.200 standing ovation. Go right ahead, Barbara. How are you. 314 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:08.440 I'm good, I'm good, but I'm listening to you and 315 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:09.279 to your callers. 316 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:09.920 Yeah. 317 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:16.359 And Vladimir Putin is a bloody dictator and a war 318 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:19.440 criminal who marched across the border of a sovereign nation 319 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:25.960 expecting to expecting to decimate Ukraine next stop being Europe. 320 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:29.319 And it is the bravery and coverage courage of the 321 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:36.359 Ukrainian people who gave their blood, their resources, their their 322 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:40.640 everything about their country to hold the line for all 323 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:44.960 of us, for all of us, while Putin, who mister 324 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:51.440 Trump can't seem to call a dictator, while he calls Zelenski, 325 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:59.920 who is a hero, a dictator. Putin and his forces murder, 326 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:05.680 massacred civilians, great women, kidnapped children and took them back 327 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:09.799 to Russia. And this is the man, this is the 328 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:16.319 man you're applauding how much Trump got done and ending 329 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:19.519 this war when what he did was with no respect 330 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:23.759 for the sovereign leader of Ukraine shat down in Saudi 331 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:31.200 Arabia with another bloody murderer, Prince Mohammed bin Salomon, and 332 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:35.519 the leaders of Russian, the Russian negotiating team and on 333 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:41.319 behalf of a separate sovereign nation, began to negotiate the 334 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:46.839 end of this war without Ukraine present, after his Defense secretary, 335 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:52.119 in an act of complete idiocy and inexperience, said, by 336 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:57.079 the way, off the table is membership in NATO. Off 337 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:01.680 the table is that Ukraine would turned to its previous borders. 338 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:05.440 And they made it very clear from the beginning, we 339 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:09.440 are here to please Putin. Uh, We're not even showing 340 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:13.519 Zelinsky in front of Putin any respect. We're going to 341 00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:17.240 find out what Vlad wants and then we'll go dictate 342 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:23.119 it to Zalinsky. And now we have extorted from this 343 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:29.079 country its minimal rights, extorted it from a country that 344 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:33.880 is a democracy, like US, that has held the line 345 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:34.799 for democracies. 346 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:39.920 Okay, I get you, I get your You've gone for Barbara. 347 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:45.759 You've gone for about three minutes, and I'm right now, Barbara. 348 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:48.599 Bring your back up. I'll talk to him. 349 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.599 Okay, nothing for Barbara. 350 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:52.839 Are you able to hear me? 351 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:54.319 Yeah? 352 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:58.039 Good, great, Okay, I've listened to you for about three minutes. Uh, 353 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:02.200 and I appreciate your point of view. Uh. What would 354 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:07.799 you do if you were Donald Trump? Would you, uh 355 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:12.079 maybe attack Russia? Here are you? Would you do? You? 356 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:16.079 What are the options that you that Donald Trump should exercise. 357 00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:18.119 I'll give you a couple of choices, and if you 358 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:23.039 have another choice, let me know. Either go after Russia, 359 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:25.839 send some US troops in there, and let's move the 360 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:29.640 Russians out of Ukraine. That would be one option. The 361 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.480 the other option, I guess would be to give Ukraine 362 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:38.000 some of our more advanced weaponry, which would allow Ukraine 363 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.799 to perhaps fire longer range missiles that could hit the 364 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:46.079 Kremlin directly. What what what do you think would be 365 00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:48.640 the best strategy for US to follow. Just in terms 366 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:51.079 of Ukraine, I think. 367 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:52.519 We asked the leader of Ukraine. 368 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:55.640 What I'm asking you. 369 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.039 I'm asking yes, but I'm saying you asked, and I'm 370 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:03.359 telling you Donald Trump needed to sit down Withinsky. 371 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.359 Okay, So let's assume again, Let's give me a favorite 372 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.640 Barbara conversation with you. I gave you three minutes to 373 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:12.319 make a speech. 374 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.279 Okay, so I'm answering your question. 375 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:20.839 Well, so now let's assume says Let us assume that 376 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:26.839 Zelensky says to Trump, I want nuclear weapons so I 377 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:29.720 can push our nuclear weapons off the table. 378 00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:35.160 Yeah, no one is going to enter into a nuclear war. 379 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:37.039 So I think that's really disingenuous. 380 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.039 Okay, let's assume food and says to Let us assume 381 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:46.039 in your scenario, Zelensky says to Trump, I want long 382 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:49.119 range missiles, which will give me the ability, just as 383 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:55.079 he has missiles that can hit Kiev, uh And and 384 00:24:55.480 --> 00:25:00.599 other Ukrainian cities. I want long range US missiles and 385 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:07.079 US fighter jets with US pilots to bomb Russian troops. 386 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:09.200 And I want to be able to hit Moscow with 387 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.559 US long range missiles. That's what I'd like, mister Trump, 388 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:13.200 what do you say to what? 389 00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:16.839 Okay, so you you gave me your options and you 390 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:19.480 said I might have another one, So I'm not I. 391 00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:23.680 You turned down. Just so I understand, Barbara, I asked, 392 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.319 I'm asking a question. I just want you to answer 393 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:28.839 and if if you if you would if you do 394 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:32.559 not want that's what Zelensky has been asking for from Biden. 395 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.279 And I gave Biden credit for not giving Zelensky that 396 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.160 would you give those would you give those missiles to? 397 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:40.839 Because that's a. 398 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:44.440 Yes or no? Please, Barbara, I don't know how good 399 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.440 you are conversations, but I'm trying my best, and. 400 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.759 You want to nail me down to a yes or no. 401 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:49.799