Speaker 1: The Age of Your Proms. You are listening to the
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Speaker 1: keep doing it. It's really great from the creators and
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Speaker 1: that's just one example of how they're making things easier.
Speaker 1: So that they added the live stream functionality. I want
Speaker 1: to say, within the past year. Maybe that's what I
Speaker 1: noticed it, and I have been using it in a
Speaker 1: lot of the material or live streams that I do there.
Speaker 1: So the recent series that I have been working on
Speaker 1: and I will be working on for quite a while,
Speaker 1: it is called looking for Truth in All the Wrong Places.
Speaker 1: What we're doing there is I've got my stack of
Speaker 1: old truth DVDs from my nine to eleven Truth Group
Speaker 1: activism days. I've collected a giant collection of these things.
Speaker 1: I've got all sorts of interesting old titles. And I
Speaker 1: also want to say another thank you that goes way
Speaker 1: back in time to everybody who I used to get
Speaker 1: a lot of people when I had a PO box,
Speaker 1: which I wish I still had, but people would send
Speaker 1: me DVDs. I had a lot of people send me
Speaker 1: a lot of DVDs. I want to say thank you
Speaker 1: to all of you who have done that at any point.
Speaker 1: If you're still listening, big thank you for still listening too.
Speaker 1: But I've got a lot of material from people sending
Speaker 1: me stuff, so I've got all sorts of really cool stuff.
Speaker 1: So out of that giant stack of DVDs, I've got
Speaker 1: some selected works that I'm going to go back and
Speaker 1: watch give commentary on and the idea is to analyze it,
Speaker 1: to get an idea of what the what was the
Speaker 1: Truth movement and what were the goals and the stated
Speaker 1: grievances around the time of two thousand and six, two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, moving forward ten twenty twelve. But I
Speaker 1: really got into this round five oh six, So starting
Speaker 1: there and kind of between i'd say between two thousand
Speaker 1: and six and twenty twelve. These DVDs are mainly going
Speaker 1: to be uh that's the time period they mainly are
Speaker 1: drawn from, and my idea is to try to remember
Speaker 1: what the mission was like, what was the mission statement,
Speaker 1: what were the grievances, what was everybody saying? What were
Speaker 1: the And there's never anne agreed upon opinion, however, there
Speaker 1: are popular themes, topics, and as I say, with the
Speaker 1: Truth Movement, grievances is a proper term to use. So
Speaker 1: what were all those things? Because I know I know
Speaker 1: that they're different than where we have gotten into today.
Speaker 1: And of course there is no Truth Movement today. It
Speaker 1: has morphed into something different. And that's another one of
Speaker 1: my goals with this series is I want to kind
Speaker 1: of I mean, as far as we can, like break
Speaker 1: down the transformation of the nine to eleven Truth movement
Speaker 1: and online truth movement more broadly speaking, from around that
Speaker 1: time of the two thousands, that moving into you know,
Speaker 1: you had the I could go on and on about
Speaker 1: this and we will and in the series, but you know,
Speaker 1: essentially turned into the maga world, and the people who
Speaker 1: are prominent voices in the truth movement have essentially just
Speaker 1: become alternative conservative commentators. They're they're that's what they are.
Speaker 1: They're like alterternative Sean Hannity's right, or like supposedly independent
Speaker 1: and some of them are independent, some of them I
Speaker 1: don't think are. And there's this weird gray area. So
Speaker 1: how where because so many of them have made this
Speaker 1: a career. Clearly it's their career, it's what they do,
Speaker 1: they spend their time doing it, it's how they make
Speaker 1: their living. So that's a whole that's a whole study
Speaker 1: that I'm not going to be able to break down adequately,
Speaker 1: although part of this project I want to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's their living and we may not know where all
Speaker 1: the money is coming from, but you know, we'll go
Speaker 1: as far as we can. And then there's just a
Speaker 1: lot to unpack. There isn't there, and this has just
Speaker 1: been one of my things over the years that has
Speaker 1: just it's bothered me, as the listeners know. It's so
Speaker 1: bad what this cadre of people have become is such
Speaker 1: a disgrace that I don't want to even be associated
Speaker 1: with it. Although I know that's where I started. I
Speaker 1: start in the same spot as so many of these characters,
Speaker 1: but I am not in a I'm not in the
Speaker 1: same place as them, and I'm very happy about that.
Speaker 1: So it's a last place I want to be what
Speaker 1: they're doing. But I also have a unique and privileged
Speaker 1: position of knowing more than the average bear when it
Speaker 1: comes to analysis of this or even understanding that it's
Speaker 1: a thing. So many people will like to complain about
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, for instance, which they should, and some people
Speaker 1: do a great job of it. Frankly, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of hilarious online material goofing on him. I encourage that.
Speaker 1: I would like to see more of that, so that's great. However,
Speaker 1: there is also this simultaneous reactionary left wing take to
Speaker 1: this whole subject matter, which I do not like whatsoever.
Speaker 1: It comes in many forms, but it is again a
Speaker 1: decidedly like left wing attack on.
Speaker 2: I might be.
Speaker 1: Biting off more than I can chew now, but this
Speaker 1: is something I've noticed over time where they will kind
Speaker 1: of like goof on anybody who would even be like
Speaker 1: dumb enough to decide to go online and try to
Speaker 1: figure out the truth of anything or be skeptical of
Speaker 1: you know, basically delve into any sort of conspiracy or
Speaker 1: alternative ideas online. Because clear now we can see right,
Speaker 1: and it's true that we have the evidence that all
Speaker 1: these like right wing extremist kooks are the ones who
Speaker 1: are into it, which is correct because that's what they
Speaker 1: have become. But they weren't always like that. In fact,
Speaker 1: you go back a couple decades, they were actually espousing
Speaker 1: a lot of what would fall into like left wing
Speaker 1: opinions to draw to presumably draw people in from a
Speaker 1: wider base, or they believed it themselves, but they forgot
Speaker 1: that they believed it, or they were told not to,
Speaker 1: or they never believed in anything because they're all they are,
Speaker 1: or Charlatan's just hawking whatever. The popular idea of the
Speaker 1: moment is to get attention to themselves, right, and they're
Speaker 1: just following the algorithm. The algorithm and the digital platform
Speaker 1: is pushing them to a place where they don't even
Speaker 1: care where it is. They don't care. They just want
Speaker 1: to as long as they remain relevant, as long as
Speaker 1: they keep getting some describers and viewers, and they're getting monetized.
Speaker 1: However it is that they're getting monetized, I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: different for each one of these idiots. And so you
Speaker 1: see how many different directions we can go when we
Speaker 1: start delving into this topic, which I don't think. I
Speaker 1: think hardly anybody even has a grass. And once again
Speaker 1: I get frustrated when I see sort of these reactionary
Speaker 1: takes to something that I feel is a really important,
Speaker 1: misunderstood topic. I think it's highly misunderstood. It's one of
Speaker 1: the most important things politically in our country at present,
Speaker 1: because I think it explains to a great extent, maybe
Speaker 1: not fully, but to a really uh you can explain
Speaker 1: a lot of where the country is politically by getting
Speaker 1: a true understand of this online media ecosystem. And yes,
Speaker 1: what was formerly the truth movement known as that everybody
Speaker 1: wants to continue to brush that aside like it's nothing.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of idiots, and that's always kind of been. Ironically,
Speaker 1: that has been the grievance of the movement from the beginning.
Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, we are marginalized, and they exploit that
Speaker 1: to say, Oh, we're marginalized.
Speaker 2: Donate to me.
Speaker 1: Oh we're marginalized. The media doesn't want you to know
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. Oh, we're marginalized. Just like this
Speaker 1: candidate for president that I'm telling you to vote for.
Speaker 1: He's marginalized just like us. And if you vote for him,
Speaker 1: you who are also marginalized, you will be winning for once,
Speaker 1: and we will defeat our oppressors. And they use this
Speaker 1: kind of lot. So it's crazy because like that's the
Speaker 1: idiotic and that's where if you want to criticize this
Speaker 1: group for saying those things, you should because they are
Speaker 1: exploiting that. But at the same time, honest people who
Speaker 1: want to know the truth of what's going on, that
Speaker 1: know that clearly we're being lied to about everything from
Speaker 1: all angles, and the fact that you have a desire
Speaker 1: to try to understand that at all should not be
Speaker 1: something you're getting made fun of for. It should not
Speaker 1: be something that is denigrated. It should be something that
Speaker 1: is celebrated and maybe for once, we could all try
Speaker 1: to figure out how to do it the right way,
Speaker 1: because nobody, as far as I can tell, has really
Speaker 1: cared to. All it's been is a lot of lip service,
Speaker 1: a lot of self promotion. That's all it's been. Because
Speaker 1: this is the world of media, this is what it's
Speaker 1: all about. It's you promote yourself. It's a big marketing thing.
Speaker 1: So if you want to be in this, if you
Speaker 1: want to make this your career, you market yourself, You
Speaker 1: market your platform, you put your name out, you follow
Speaker 1: the trends, you do what you have to. The algorithm
Speaker 1: pushes you. These days, it's these days, it's really all
Speaker 1: about the algorithm. It's really fascinating to go on YouTube now.
Speaker 1: I mean, what I would like to see somebody make
Speaker 1: is a documentary of YouTube itself from its inception to now,
Speaker 1: with a deep analysis of all the changes they made
Speaker 1: over the years, because it's so many that there's been
Speaker 1: so many's, there's constantly changing and is so far removed
Speaker 1: these days from what it was when it started. And
Speaker 1: now you go on there, you watch videos, you see
Speaker 1: people so many videos are telling you how to be
Speaker 1: on the platform. These I mean, these are videos that
Speaker 1: I watch because I'm trying to actually honestly make stuff
Speaker 1: for like the Uncle channel and whatnot, Like, okay, like,
Speaker 1: how do I actually get some views? Is there way
Speaker 1: to do it? So I end up watching these videos.
Speaker 2: We's see ironically, a YouTube documentary like that, I'd love
Speaker 2: to see it too, would never survive on YouTube currently.
Speaker 1: And well yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The other funny thing is the dark secret. And this
Speaker 2: is something I don't know how to articulate, and I'm
Speaker 2: hoping somebody I've been trying to find a guest actually
Speaker 2: to explain it, the dark blessing that comes from behind,
Speaker 2: because these guys not only get blessed with instantaneous traffic,
Speaker 2: which I know you can buy traffic and all that,
Speaker 2: but I mean, that's a hell of an investment if
Speaker 2: you've got to buy you know, a half million subscribers
Speaker 2: in fifteen days. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually, I've I've heard, and I think it might be
Speaker 1: true that if you're end up buying that sort of
Speaker 1: stuff a backfires. It works better if you do it
Speaker 1: another way. I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I tend to believe that. Maybe, But here's
Speaker 2: the thing you've heard, you've heard, do you know anybody
Speaker 2: who's done it? We see well, yeah, yeah, exactly, and
Speaker 2: this is how urban legends are born. But here's the problem.
Speaker 2: I know for a fact, there is no way that
Speaker 2: somebody with you know, five bucks, they have no job,
Speaker 2: has decided one day to build a YouTube channel and
Speaker 2: boom they have instant success every platform. There's no way.
Speaker 2: I know that. In the past, there have been blessings
Speaker 2: bestowed upon different media people. Now today it's a lame
Speaker 2: sort of thing, right, I mean, there's still the Fox
Speaker 2: News channels are everywhere in the country. You know, they
Speaker 2: have a new guy that replaced you know, Bongino, who
Speaker 2: was also a bit player in the great you know, well,
Speaker 2: the Fox propaganda machine really, because it's the only uniquely
Speaker 2: unified circumstance where there is one push at all times
Speaker 2: throughout the media organization that makes sense, where the stockholders,
Speaker 2: the controllers and the talent are all in lockstep. There's
Speaker 2: no other media entity like it. Even you know, it's
Speaker 2: Rupert Murdoch's creation. Got to give it to him anyway,
Speaker 2: It's weird. There is a blessing that is granted, and
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it goes all the way from the
Speaker 2: strange days of AJ and the boosts he got from
Speaker 2: you know, Angel supporters, you know, to the days where
Speaker 2: you were talking to you know, you hear from a guy, well,
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: It wasn't really that noticeable that it came from Russia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. That's That's how they try
Speaker 1: to explain it too, is like I was only making
Speaker 1: half a million a month. That's nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like dude, like, how do you That is
Speaker 2: the guy who says, you know, who looks at you
Speaker 2: and you go, look, man, my car broke downside a
Speaker 2: problem and they look at and go, well, just buy
Speaker 2: another one. What's your problem? Because they don't live in
Speaker 2: the same world as you and these podcasters and blessed people.
Speaker 2: They have equipment, access staff right away, which requires what
Speaker 2: a baseline investment. You and I know this. We've talked
Speaker 2: about how we could build certain things, what it would
Speaker 2: require monetarily off air, We've talked about it. So the
Speaker 2: Angel investor and the blessing from the dark cardinals and
Speaker 2: popes of the technosphere that have to be granted, which
Speaker 2: I claim is the reason why Joe Rogan survives, not
Speaker 2: because he's interesting, not because he's funny. He does have
Speaker 2: a great guest list, but so does everybody else. You know,
Speaker 2: Mark Maron even had Barack Obama on his show, I
Speaker 2: think before Joe Rogan, So you know, there were blessings
Speaker 2: given to certain people somehow or other. You and I
Speaker 2: know how hard it is to go get guests, staff
Speaker 2: helped or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's been an interesting the thing over the years, too, Chuck,
Speaker 1: because it was different back when it started. It was
Speaker 1: all actually easier when this was new to procure guests.
Speaker 1: Now it's harder and harder, which is odd. You think
Speaker 1: it would become easier every time. It's gotten harder.
Speaker 2: Well, but that's because of the quantity that's occurred, obviously,
Speaker 2: And that's the other part of this riddle, is this
Speaker 2: massive quantity. We know that part of it was the
Speaker 2: mainstream media was not involved in the podcast sphere. They
Speaker 2: goofed on it. They didn't treat it as though it
Speaker 2: was serious. Nowadays, every mainstream, every digital, every cable has podcasts,
Speaker 2: platforms launched for their shows, their main shows. They have
Speaker 2: strategic thing so they've generated content into the pool and
Speaker 2: you know, increased it exponentially across the board. So the
Speaker 2: corporate entities with funds everything from iHeartRadio to CNN. Put
Speaker 2: in back when we were doing it, it was just
Speaker 2: the indies and a couple of people that had some
Speaker 2: strong coalitions and that was it. So obviously there were
Speaker 2: less places for people to go. And then right around
Speaker 2: the time they started to see that podcasts could actually
Speaker 2: sell their books or whatever. Then as soon as that happened,
Speaker 2: the corporate media went, wait a minute, we're missing out
Speaker 2: on this, and they put it out there so well.
Speaker 1: I mean, that just shows you the short version of
Speaker 1: the story is that the main stream mainstream media is
Speaker 1: now digital. Yeah, okay, so there's nothing outsider about digital
Speaker 1: online media anymore. It is the mainstream. There isn't even
Speaker 1: TV anymore. That's a decaying thing. It's like hardly even there.
Speaker 1: So we have to we have to come to terms
Speaker 1: with the changes that have occurred. We have to stop
Speaker 1: allowing people to act like there's some sort of like
Speaker 1: badass rebels that have like that are grassroots somehow if
Speaker 1: they're thriving on a digital platform. That is not the case.
Speaker 1: It's not true anyway.
Speaker 2: The other weird mistake is that, you know, look, listeners
Speaker 2: used to highlight our opinions about things. But our opinions
Speaker 2: were based on presentations after research, after consuming a bunch
Speaker 2: of media and you know, consolidating it and actually sifting
Speaker 2: through it to show you certain patterns and things like that.
Speaker 2: We used to do that for media analysis. We used
Speaker 2: to do that for conspiracy research. All that these other
Speaker 2: guys now have gotten. And that's the what would you
Speaker 2: call that? The uh uh what is it when you
Speaker 2: can just sell it to people? You know, it's the
Speaker 2: that side of the media, so to speak, the uh
Speaker 2: you know, the commercial side where it's accessible to the
Speaker 2: public and it's just there. The thing is once yeah, well,
Speaker 2: yeah good.
Speaker 1: They're just producing they're just producing reactionary material where you're
Speaker 1: just taking the outrage of the day and packaging it
Speaker 1: and everybody's talking about the same stupid topics. It's like,
Speaker 1: here's my commentary on this topic, and that's all it is.
Speaker 2: But that's what it's just like, yeah, see there you go,
Speaker 2: no more is it. Here's a bunch of things I
Speaker 2: learned and now here's my commentary on it. It is
Speaker 2: now just my commentary. See that's why it was weird
Speaker 2: when I saw, you know, like I said, the split
Speaker 2: screens that they used to have on the cable news
Speaker 2: shows when it was still relevant, and it was all
Speaker 2: these people arguing in the Brady Bunch forum. I called
Speaker 2: it because that's where I first saw a split screen
Speaker 2: with a bunch of heads. Right. So the thing is
Speaker 2: Brady Bunch Forum of arguments went to Now we're going
Speaker 2: to get together and have Brady Bunch, except we all
Speaker 2: just give opinions, and they're all the same opinion, so
Speaker 2: we're all just sitting here agreeing with each other. So
Speaker 2: the argument was removed. See every step down the ladder,
Speaker 2: they've watered down, even the more ridiculous aspects of it,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean that's the thing. It's like taking
Speaker 2: away the controversy from Maury and Jerry Springer.
Speaker 1: Well you know, you know, you know how they keep
Speaker 1: the controversy alive is that they feed into the rage
Speaker 1: bait content. And I mean the right wing ecosystem does
Speaker 1: this exclusively. They take the giant enemy, which is wokeness,
Speaker 1: whatever that even means, and they take the stupid story
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, just insert whatever it is.
Speaker 1: This past week, the past weeks, this has been going on.
Speaker 1: I can't believe for how long is this cracker barrel nonsense?
Speaker 1: People are getting outraged that a corporate logo changed, and
Speaker 1: they go on for weeks on end about it, talking
Speaker 1: about that it's ridiculous. Well, you know, I always found
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I always found it rem mark that you were a
Speaker 2: real rebel for wearing your anonymous mask, which was the
Speaker 2: Guy Fawkes thing, which was absolutely marketed by a major
Speaker 2: media company. So everybody had to buy their rebel masks from,
Speaker 2: you know, a major media entity. You know, you do
Speaker 2: realize that, right, you know, Almos sky Fawks masks.
Speaker 1: That was well, that was the sort of stuff chuck
Speaker 1: that from the beginning, even when I would play into
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, because you know, I started out
Speaker 1: as a kind of a naive goofball and all this anyway,
Speaker 1: I'll be perfectly frank about it. But the more that
Speaker 1: you kind of sit in there and realize it is
Speaker 1: what you're doing, that was the kind of stuff that
Speaker 1: over time is like, okay, now wait a minute, what's
Speaker 1: actually going on here?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So, I mean, even from the start, things were off.
Speaker 1: But that's not to say that things haven't even downgraded
Speaker 1: from where we were back then, because they have.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's the sad thing is even going back
Speaker 2: to say like Occupy Wall Street, which is more of
Speaker 2: a left wing sort of thing that happened for a
Speaker 2: minute as as it was big enough. See, that's the
Speaker 2: thing is once things grew to a point where there
Speaker 2: was a community. And this is what I tried to
Speaker 2: warn these nine to eleven guys who were dedicated. It
Speaker 2: was like their whole lives were into it. And I
Speaker 2: was like, look, I understand, but you need to look
Speaker 2: at this JFK community situation because they got a thirty
Speaker 2: forty year jump on you here, and there's a lot
Speaker 2: of things that have gone down where people have been
Speaker 2: turned against each other. You've seen the politics shift and
Speaker 2: all that. And what I'm telling you is they learned
Speaker 2: from that and they're going to undermine you with a
Speaker 2: lot more than the uh, you know than the white
Speaker 2: paper that came out of you know, Obama's guy there,
Speaker 2: which was about you know, destroying and infiltrating. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's happening already because that's what they've always done. But
Speaker 2: they're going to get better at it and it's going
Speaker 2: to increase in speed. Right in a perfect parallel with
Speaker 2: the Internet itself, and they were like scoffing at me, like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're just you know, an old guy who's into the
Speaker 2: JFK thing, and that used to be an important topic.
Speaker 2: But nine eleven is the endol and bial I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: they're going to destroy you faster. They're literally going to
Speaker 2: wreck you faster because you're not watching your back here.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah that's wild. So yeah, it's crazy because usually
Speaker 1: when you get involved in this, there's a level of
Speaker 1: paranoia that comes along with it that would make a
Speaker 1: warning like that. At least I would have always been like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, why am I even doing this? And I
Speaker 1: would at least have listened.
Speaker 2: You would have thought that with the level of paranoid
Speaker 2: I mean literally, people that just started researching nine to
Speaker 2: eleven like a month ago back then would say people
Speaker 2: are parked out side of my house and I'm like, dude, dude, yeah,
Speaker 2: nobody's physically coming to you, just yet I'm not saying
Speaker 2: they're not watching.
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's another this This whole thing is
Speaker 1: filled with all these weird ironies where there will be
Speaker 1: that and they'll be concerned on that line. But then
Speaker 1: if you go and you warn them about like the
Speaker 1: long term of what's going to happen here and how
Speaker 1: you got to be careful, then that that doesn't get
Speaker 1: taken seriously, but the paranoid thing does.
Speaker 2: Like I tried to explain to these guys, you don't
Speaker 2: understand the level of crap they had in my file
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, and they're like, well, of course,
Speaker 2: because you're like a truther guy and you and you
Speaker 2: do this, And I'm like, I barely touched any of
Speaker 2: that stuff, and that had no podcast, no presence online.
Speaker 2: I had just been a JFK researcher. These people had
Speaker 2: my juvenile criminal past in a folder along with my
Speaker 2: whole life pretty much, and a bunch of things that
Speaker 2: they thought I was suspect about doing that They were
Speaker 2: reading off to my gonna be the next day my
Speaker 2: wife and telling her to be careful with me. The
Speaker 2: day before I'm going to marry her because Homeland Security
Speaker 2: was sent out due to the fact that her exit
Speaker 2: been threatened to blow up the boat we were going
Speaker 2: to be married on, and that triggered an automatic response
Speaker 2: from Homeland Security that he threatened the registered naval vessel
Speaker 2: with terrorism by claiming by you know, and the next thing,
Speaker 2: you know, well they they took him into custody and
Speaker 2: told him, you know that you come anywhere near here,
Speaker 2: we're going to shoot you. And there were armed guards
Speaker 2: at my wedding, and there was a sniper in the
Speaker 2: wheelhouse at the boat from the FBI. And meanwhile, I'm
Speaker 2: the victim here, might soon to be wife is the
Speaker 2: victim here, They insisted on an I had an increased
Speaker 2: police presence and FBI at my wedding, And on top
Speaker 2: of it, they pulled us apart and started telling her
Speaker 2: all kinds of dirty little secrets in my FBI file
Speaker 2: and trying to say, you know, if you ever want
Speaker 2: to tell us something, I mean, he could be kind
Speaker 2: of dangerous. He you know, he's got ties to people
Speaker 2: in his past, very deep criminals, and you know, he's
Speaker 2: been around some very very violent people and somehow never
Speaker 2: been caught for violence himself. And if you ever feel
Speaker 2: in danger, you could call the FBI. This is what
Speaker 2: they're trying to tell my fiance the night before I
Speaker 2: marry her. In two thousand and seven, no podcasts, no book, published,
Speaker 2: no appearances at a conference, and they even knew I
Speaker 2: had done research work with people and literally said, you know,
Speaker 2: he's crazy enough to think the CIA might have been
Speaker 2: involved with the president's murder. And that's what they told her.
Speaker 2: So this is two thousand and seven, dude, that's rough.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I even started handing out,
Speaker 2: you know, copies of Zeitgeist until a year later. But
Speaker 2: either way, they had a jacket on me with you know,
Speaker 2: stuff that wasn't supposed to be known, stuff from sealed files,
Speaker 2: stuff that I knew nobody else had any idea about
Speaker 2: that they were, And that's what they related to her
Speaker 2: about what they suspected about me. So you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can be a little paranoid if you want, because
Speaker 2: they are watching you. Uh probably, yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, well absolutely, yeah that's a thing. Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: we all have one of those wonderful files. And now
Speaker 1: everything's digitized, so that's all. Yeah, So that's all that way.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And meanwhile, that's what they handed to the
Speaker 2: local FBI guys for the Department of Homeland Security Response
Speaker 2: in New Jersey. This isn't the DC guys. You know,
Speaker 2: they didn't fly from Quantico to bring special information. This
Speaker 2: is the action of a fusion center. You know, at
Speaker 2: that time, people didn't even know about this stuff really,
Speaker 2: but I knew about it because I was like, Wow,
Speaker 2: right there in front of my face, you guys know
Speaker 2: stuff about sealed juvenile documents from when I had committed
Speaker 2: crimes as a juvenile. You guys know stuff about my
Speaker 2: past that nobody should know and things that were supposed
Speaker 2: to be private. Isn't that interesting? And here's the other
Speaker 2: thing that it is likely that a personnel a person
Speaker 2: of interest file was probably created with the CIA as well,
Speaker 2: because I mentioned them in some of the work I
Speaker 2: was doing with you know, historical research, So they might
Speaker 2: have created what they called a two A one file
Speaker 2: for me. And I'll never see that, But Homeland Security
Speaker 2: had the FBI stuff on me. And I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: that's a DHS response from two thousand and seven. How
Speaker 2: much more fusion of information do you think has occurred
Speaker 2: since then? Yep?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all getting technologically advanced now thanks to what
Speaker 1: we voted in. Yeah, that we that we the system
Speaker 1: that was triumphed by the truth. The former truthers whenever
Speaker 1: they're calling themselves this day today, they're the ones who
Speaker 1: have all sold this. They never explicitly say that's what
Speaker 1: they're doing. But I've find it fascinating to go back
Speaker 1: into the time when I was, when I'm taking a
Speaker 1: look the two thousands of nine eleven truth movement era
Speaker 1: and how all of the things that they were supposedly
Speaker 1: calling out and that we were going to investigate. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be a new investigation on this on that we're
Speaker 1: going to find the truth. We need to make sure
Speaker 1: that the government surveillance police state doesn't rise and take
Speaker 1: us over. Well, you know, when somebody comes along. It's
Speaker 1: just crazy, the irony that when this actually continues happening,
Speaker 1: the same stuff that was happening back then is now
Speaker 1: continuing and being carried out. They're not saying any of
Speaker 1: that anymore. Now. They're worried about cracker barrel. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they're not all that stuff that they're concerned about before.
Speaker 1: I don't even hear them really talk about that anymore, right, right?
Speaker 1: Or are they Am I missing it? I'm maybe they are,
Speaker 1: but they're you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: No, I don't see them, No, no, no, I don't see
Speaker 2: any of the I'm worried about the surveillance state they're
Speaker 2: on me. All they're worried about is I'm being unfairly
Speaker 2: treated on TikTok or Facebook or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, like, oh, please help me, so I
Speaker 1: don't like lose a YouTube or something like that. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's as far as we're gonna get. Yeah, because they've
Speaker 1: only targeted conservatives. They only target conservatives, they only target Yeah, Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Heard your mantra. But here's the thing. You know, realize
Speaker 2: when I'm talking about two thousand and seven, Obama's not
Speaker 2: even in office yet when this happened to me. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you know Patriot Act, yes, Telecommunications Act in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety seven. Yes, these things were already there. So by
Speaker 2: the time these guys were screaming about the paranoia and
Speaker 2: they were worried about and they're gonna follow me. And
Speaker 2: you know what, they don't got to pull up with
Speaker 2: his none Mark Sedan. No more doesn't have to be done.
Speaker 2: The data collection, most of it, people are volunteerily giving over,
Speaker 2: whether they realize it or not. You know, you think
Speaker 2: that Elon Musk would never let them look at the
Speaker 2: files of Twitter. Okay, no, because they probably have a
Speaker 2: direct line they can plug in and just you know,
Speaker 2: go into the server anytime they want. They got free
Speaker 2: reign use your head. You know, it's just it kills
Speaker 2: me that these guys don't understand that, and they've turned
Speaker 2: it into a left versus right thing and they don't
Speaker 2: realize that the you know, the information collectors are not
Speaker 2: about left and right. They're about getting that.
Speaker 1: That was a big thing. That was a big thing
Speaker 1: in the day too, was that it's not about it's
Speaker 1: about destroying the left right paradigm and we have to
Speaker 1: move beyond that. And then, you know, go forward a
Speaker 1: couple of years, it's like all about how the liberals
Speaker 1: are going to take it over everything with their demon friends,
Speaker 1: and only the native moral majority has to take over
Speaker 1: to stop this demonic left wing take They're always going
Speaker 1: after the liberals like that's that's the enemy. And these
Speaker 1: are the same people that said we had to get
Speaker 1: rid of the left right paradigm. They're completely just buying
Speaker 1: into it now.
Speaker 2: Well, they just decided that right is right. And what
Speaker 2: can I say? I mean, you know, there you go,
Speaker 2: and what can you do with somebody like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I listened to this guy, I don't know who he is.
Speaker 2: But he's like this kid and I just found him
Speaker 2: recently and his YouTube channel is like Parker get a
Speaker 2: Job or something. The kid's name is Parker, So I'm
Speaker 2: thinking obviously liberal parents, but then that's my prejudice, I guess,
Speaker 2: but you know, Parker, you name a boy Parker, for
Speaker 2: God's sake anyway, So Parker get a Job is on there.
Speaker 2: Looks like a very young kid, but he's extremely sharp
Speaker 2: and extremely quick countering the logical fallacies in magaland very
Speaker 2: much like that Hassan guy. He's like, you know, he
Speaker 2: took on like thirty of those guys in one room
Speaker 2: at one time, and he was amazed, you know, at
Speaker 2: the amount of racism that he heard. And I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: welcome to America, you know. And he's a naturalized citizen
Speaker 2: and he's like, I'm amazed at this, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: are you really, you know, like it's too much at
Speaker 2: this point, and you know, you're just saying, Richard, You're like,
Speaker 2: you're a trumped Richard Shudroman. Now I don't have to
Speaker 2: have Trump arrangement syndrome to recognize certain things that are
Speaker 2: going on here that are okay, Like at this point,
Speaker 2: rounding up people and throwing them into camps was the
Speaker 2: greatest fear of the right wing influenced all media only
Speaker 2: a few years ago. Remember, they're going to round up
Speaker 2: all the gun owners. They're going to round up all
Speaker 2: the Christians, They're going to round up all the white
Speaker 2: people that think for themselves pretty much, is what they
Speaker 2: were saying, and all their paranoia and everything else. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: we're actually going to round up a lot of brown
Speaker 2: people right now. And they go, oh good, yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And now we've got our alligator Alcatraz instead of FEMA
Speaker 2: camps and Walmart's being converted into prisons. Uh you know,
Speaker 2: is that still possible? I don't know. Maybe, but you know,
Speaker 2: wild wild huh. I mean Alex Jones said, look at
Speaker 2: all the coffins they have here, you know, at this
Speaker 2: place on Jesse Ventur's show. They're gonna make FEMA camps
Speaker 2: out of everything, and now they're making them. And it's
Speaker 2: just well, they're putting the right people in there, so it's.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's just yeah, yeah, what do you say. It's
Speaker 1: that simple, It's and it's fascinating to get onto the
Speaker 1: racism aspect of this that when you take when you
Speaker 1: lat that angle, you go back to the past. There
Speaker 1: was even like these the same contre would bring up
Speaker 1: how in post nine to eleven America, Muslims are being
Speaker 1: persecuted wrongly, Like these people would be saying stuff like
Speaker 1: that back then. And now fast forward to today and
Speaker 1: they're making content where they make videos where it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be comedy, but it's just they're just straight out
Speaker 1: it's just straight out racist jokes, like over the top.
Speaker 1: Even they used to like swear up and down like
Speaker 1: we're not racist and we need to stop the racist
Speaker 1: and now they're making content that's like I was looking
Speaker 1: at the Mark Dice YouTube channel the other day and
Speaker 1: it's just like really, it's like it's it's pretty wild
Speaker 1: to see the stuff that they can get away with.
Speaker 1: Now it's insane and they're just letting it out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, any kind of Arab or Muslim for a couple
Speaker 2: of months had to deal with, Hey, you're wearing a beeper.
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't go off. I mean that's pretty rough,
Speaker 2: you know, Like, wow, Okay, so first of all, you're
Speaker 2: tying me to what you call a terrorist group. Second,
Speaker 2: you're hoping I have one of the Israeli explosive devices
Speaker 2: on me, and you think it's it's funny. Okay, that's great,
Speaker 2: even though you know a naturalized American citizen or whatever,
Speaker 2: this is the way you're going to treat me, you know,
Speaker 2: because remember, these are the same people who ironically we
Speaker 2: have to pass a law against them implementing Sharia law
Speaker 2: in our town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I would look at them like, you don't see
Speaker 2: the logical fallacy there, and they're like, no, it's about
Speaker 2: protecting America. And I'm like, but here's the deal. If
Speaker 2: they were to implement sharia law and remove your laws,
Speaker 2: wouldn't that include the law that banned Sharia law? I
Speaker 2: mean just saying like, did you not just do something
Speaker 2: that was pointless? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was a point, and the point was
Speaker 1: creating outrage online in the propaganda world, the propaganda sphere.
Speaker 1: That was the point. And whether they know it or not,
Speaker 1: the smarter ones know what they're doing. The dumb morons
Speaker 1: just say whatever they're told to say. They get their
Speaker 1: little talking point memos and they barely even work to
Speaker 1: copy and repaste it on the feeds of their social
Speaker 1: media accounts. It's like, really, dude, you kind of word
Speaker 1: did this yourself, just copy pasted, but Roger Stone emailed
Speaker 1: you like it don't be so goddamn lazy, it's pathetic.
Speaker 2: Well it would be nice, but you know, these are
Speaker 2: the same people that literally harassed me for like weeks
Speaker 2: on my show, right when I wasn't even talking about
Speaker 2: any of this. I would bring up something else and
Speaker 2: they would find a way to bring you know, the
Speaker 2: Muslim takeover, which was a big paranoia when the Muslim
Speaker 2: Obama was in office, right, his middle names Hussey. And
Speaker 2: I go, all right, that's so ridiculous. Okay, well they've
Speaker 2: already done it in like I forget it was some
Speaker 2: part of Michigan.
Speaker 1: Like what county or is something that was their evidence?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: It was in Michigan, man, it's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was a major thing. It was like Flint, Michigan.
Speaker 2: Like I want to say Flint, but I don't think
Speaker 2: it was. But it was a well known town in Michigan. Right,
Speaker 2: And they're like, it's already taken over by the Muslims.
Speaker 2: It's Sharia law has been implemented. And I said Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to call a lawyer who practices in that area,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to see about that, because if they
Speaker 2: are still practicing there, they are working with Sharia law.
Speaker 2: So I call him up and I go, what is
Speaker 2: the deal with this? You know, guys hung up on me.
Speaker 2: I called another guy who's just very calmly. And I
Speaker 2: wasn't even just calling like Muslim lawyers or something. I
Speaker 2: was calling all kinds and uh, I got a I
Speaker 2: got a Jewish guy on there for a minute who's like,
Speaker 2: do you know how stupid this is? And I said,
Speaker 2: what what do you mean? He's like, look, this is stupid.
Speaker 2: Even he said, go to the town town council's website,
Speaker 2: go to the town's website, and uh, and take a
Speaker 2: look at this. And I really should get the town name.
Speaker 2: But I went to the town website and they literally
Speaker 2: addressed it on their website saying, you know.
Speaker 1: There's okay. Because they had heard all of the allegations,
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, we got to put up a statement
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 2: Well, because there were people from around the country like
Speaker 2: basically calling up City Hall, going you traders to America,
Speaker 2: We're gonna bomb you. We're gonna come in there and
Speaker 2: take it over because and I'm like, I gotta find
Speaker 2: the name of this town. But they literally were in it.
Speaker 2: So I called up somebody at city All and I said, look,
Speaker 2: I want to know how ridiculous this is. And they
Speaker 2: said it's a fabrication. The reason why they're doing it
Speaker 2: is because we do have a high Muslim population. Okay,
Speaker 2: but that means that they can vote because they're you know,
Speaker 2: citizens and whatnot. But they're Muslims and they're Arabs. And
Speaker 2: the thing is, even if they wanted to vote sharia
Speaker 2: law in, you can't do it. It can't even be done.
Speaker 2: But it also hasn't happened. You know, let me get
Speaker 2: the name of this town. But I'm serious, it's a
Speaker 2: real place. And people were screaming at me.
Speaker 3: Are a liar.
Speaker 2: You won't accept that it's happening, and it's gonna happen
Speaker 2: here in some there was some town in Texas that's
Speaker 2: wore up and down. It was gonna happen because like
Speaker 2: ten Muslims moved into town, you know, like weird stuff
Speaker 2: like that would happen and they'd freak out. And like
Speaker 2: I said, in different and this wasn't one municipality in
Speaker 2: these a bunch of places had to pass the law
Speaker 2: saying we, under no circumstances will accept your real law
Speaker 2: in our city, our town inserted, you know. And it's like,
Speaker 2: but do you realize if all of your laws are
Speaker 2: removed in replacements you real law, that's really not gonna
Speaker 2: matter either.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be able to be done within the borders of
Speaker 2: this country anyway, legally, in any shape or form.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, what's what's most interesting. What's most interesting
Speaker 1: to me about this whole story is that obviously it
Speaker 1: was a load of nonsense, but that doesn't matter. What
Speaker 1: it was able to do was mobilized a group of
Speaker 1: people based on this talking point, and like you're saying,
Speaker 1: they have been calling the city and like threatening it. Now,
Speaker 1: if the if the you know, if you just ratchet
Speaker 1: up the propaganda the level of that with the same messaging,
Speaker 1: but like make it more intense and more direct calls
Speaker 1: to action, just imagine what you could get a group
Speaker 1: of people to do. Right, Yeah, so it's in Detroit.
Speaker 2: I just want to clarify it because I always want
Speaker 2: to make sure I have information correct and I knew
Speaker 2: it was something that should be recognizable Dearborn, Michigan. It
Speaker 2: is a suburb of Detroit, so it is a relatively
Speaker 2: well known area in Michigan. And indeed they do have
Speaker 2: a Muslim and Arab population there. But that's it. And
Speaker 2: they were one of the first to introduce into the
Speaker 2: Michigan State House. They're anti sharia law thing. But it
Speaker 2: happened in other parts of the country too. And if
Speaker 2: you just go and look, you know, Snopes will show
Speaker 2: you and people go Snope flies. Okay, but you know,
Speaker 2: you go back to twenty ten, you see a mayor
Speaker 2: to Angle no Sharia law here. The mayor of Dearborn,
Speaker 2: Michigan rejected assertions by Nevada Senate candidate Sharon Angle that
Speaker 2: Islamic religious laws should real law taking hold of the Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so I'm just saying other law makers.
Speaker 1: So well, there's the other interesting example you just showed, Chuck,
Speaker 1: is that people are building political platforms on this outrage system.
Speaker 1: That's how politics is being shaped now is by this
Speaker 1: outrage propaganda world. And people have built their entire political
Speaker 1: careers off of this, and more and more are doing
Speaker 1: it all the time, and that's the direction, that's the
Speaker 1: legacy of the truth movement, I feel like, and they'll
Speaker 1: never admit to that, even though it's obviously true that
Speaker 1: that's what's happening. It's just frustrating.
Speaker 2: Well and another thing, yeah, another thing that freaked them
Speaker 2: out is at one point the town council, like the
Speaker 2: entire city government in Dearborn was Muslim because that's who
Speaker 2: got elected in that particular cycle, which duh, you got
Speaker 2: a large Muslim population, they might have voted as a block.
Speaker 2: It happens, and they put a all Muslim government in
Speaker 2: a town and people whipped out. Also again, and this
Speaker 2: is not something that happened like, you know, one day
Speaker 2: and one year. I'm just saying this happened over the
Speaker 2: course of Like if I just track it right now,
Speaker 2: I can see this going on from twenty ten, as
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, all the way to twenty nineteen where
Speaker 2: the Michigan Court of Appeals ruled to enforce a agreement
Speaker 2: you know, that a Muslim couple you know, entered into
Speaker 2: before they were married, blah blah blah, and people freaking
Speaker 2: out about it. In twenty nineteen, still about the possibility
Speaker 2: of Sharia law being in use in this town. So
Speaker 2: for a decade this persisted. Regardless of the fact that
Speaker 2: it didn't exist, it persisted.
Speaker 1: See, yeah, you know what's you know what's funny is
Speaker 1: that the much lauded and sought after it seems like
Speaker 1: sometimes new civil war, this whole insane outrage propaganda world
Speaker 1: could instigate that, and they could do it through all
Speaker 1: of these crazy things by saying we have to take
Speaker 1: out this or that race group that's taking over our country.
Speaker 1: They could They could simultaneously start a civil war by
Speaker 1: saying that explicitly, and then they would also say, well,
Speaker 1: this war isn't about this racist thing, and it's actually
Speaker 1: about you know, us needing a just government. So they
Speaker 1: would say the two things at the same time. You know,
Speaker 1: if that's if that insane situation were to happen, that's
Speaker 1: exactly how it would play out. They'd say, they'd tell
Speaker 1: you one thing explicitly, it's like we got we gotta
Speaker 1: take out the invaders, and then they would simultaneously say
Speaker 1: that's not what we're doing, it's actually this yeah, and
Speaker 1: smackdab and I guarantee that's what Oh yeah, that's what happened.
Speaker 2: And smack dab in the middle of this, just to
Speaker 2: give you an idea of the propaganda stream. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to hijack your time, and I should
Speaker 2: shut up, but I just feel this is important to
Speaker 2: put in context with what you're talking about. You know,
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, all right, there were bombs threatened and
Speaker 2: all kinds of craziness broke out after Fox News erroneously
Speaker 2: reported that a woman was stoned to death and dearborn
Speaker 2: and that there was an honor killing. Okay, so as
Speaker 2: soon as that was reported by a Fox News outlet,
Speaker 2: that sparked a huge backlash and the resurgence of this
Speaker 2: Sharia law, Muslims taking over a portion of the country,
Speaker 2: this kind of thing, in other words, a fabricated invasion
Speaker 2: based on the fact that there was a community of
Speaker 2: people that had coalesced. And you know, what that looks
Speaker 2: like to me is other things in history where you know,
Speaker 2: too many of the wrong people gathered up together. And indeed,
Speaker 2: it does feel strange when you know, I've seen an
Speaker 2: Orthodox Jewish community sort of take over what was primarily
Speaker 2: a black town in New Jersey. They bought up all
Speaker 2: the property and the next thing, you know, is they
Speaker 2: owned almost all the businesses, you know, and they just
Speaker 2: sort of took the whole place over, and they did
Speaker 2: push out the people that were there before. And during
Speaker 2: that process there were people basically saying they're taking over
Speaker 2: part of the country, but it didn't go beyond it
Speaker 2: because it was New Jersey, so it was kind of
Speaker 2: localized and we didn't have the internet we have today
Speaker 2: in the mid nineties, so you don't have the same mechanisms.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is this happens because we go, well,
Speaker 2: anybody can buy property, so if you choose to collectively
Speaker 2: start doing things, it can happen, can't it. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. And that can be then weaponized in
Speaker 2: one way or another.
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, here's the thing. They used to
Speaker 1: just they just they used to just call portions of
Speaker 1: a town like little Italy or little of this or that,
Speaker 1: right and leave it at that. But now it's a
Speaker 1: source of outrage for everybody, and you know, it's a
Speaker 1: reason for us to be mad at each other. And
Speaker 1: you know, look, media content, it's a good story.
Speaker 2: See, whether we want to believe it or not. This
Speaker 2: always happened though, because like you mentioned, literally literally, you
Speaker 2: mentioned these other places. You might find a little Havana,
Speaker 2: a little Tokyo, a little China in different cities. But
Speaker 2: why does that happen? Because a bunch of immigrants wind
Speaker 2: up in a space that is cheap and run down.
Speaker 2: And that's what happened to the Italians, That's what happened
Speaker 2: to the Irish, That's what happened to the Chinese, That's
Speaker 2: what happened on and on. Okay, the Russians, as they
Speaker 2: emigrated in groups one way or another, legal, illegal, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They coalesced because they spoke the same language. They weren't
Speaker 2: looking to beat each other, they weren't looking to necessarily
Speaker 2: take advantage of each other. They come together and you know,
Speaker 2: you end up with certain policing agencies outside of police
Speaker 2: even and I'm talking about bat wielding hasidam you know,
Speaker 2: all the way to Yes, Indeed, the Italian businessman associations
Speaker 2: that pop up because ethnically, people come together and say,
Speaker 2: we got to do for ourselves. Because why the new
Speaker 2: immigrants are always demonized. Italians were demonized because they were
Speaker 2: going to take orders from the pope. They didn't speak
Speaker 2: the right language, they ate funny food, they smelled funny,
Speaker 2: they looked funny, they were dark skinned, and they stamped
Speaker 2: our paperwork non white. Just so you know, so we
Speaker 2: weren't considered white people then, and Irish were not white
Speaker 2: people either. They were lower class of some kind of creature.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I'm not saying it's.
Speaker 1: Anywhere that's that's funny, but yeah, I know it just
Speaker 1: goes to show you, like what the paperwork and how
Speaker 1: things are classified, and even like well certainly like if
Speaker 1: we're starting to talk about race and all that, how
Speaker 1: stupid it becomes so clear.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that there was a jingoistic element to
Speaker 2: the American culture one way or another. You know, even
Speaker 2: remember the jokes Black said, I want to thank all
Speaker 2: the Muslims because now you made black people America. You
Speaker 2: know after nine to eleven, right, you saw those jokes
Speaker 2: because it was like, now we're acceptable because nobody's worried
Speaker 2: about the brother on the plane, but they see you
Speaker 2: show up, you know, and they're thinking, al kaeda, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the real thing. Okay. There's always a group punishment
Speaker 2: and judgment element, and that's the way we do it.
Speaker 2: That's America.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The first people to be called monkeys were Chinese people. Really,
Speaker 2: they said they jabbered like monkeys when they spoke. That's
Speaker 2: where that whole thing actually comes from.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 2: Later on he got, you know, all the Jim Crow stuff.
Speaker 2: But the truth is, the first people that were called
Speaker 2: monkeys in America were Chinese people, and they were building
Speaker 2: the rares.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, there's all sorts of wild stuff they're
Speaker 1: doing to them back in those days, I think surveiling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're lazy, and you're lazy, evil, smelly, you know,
Speaker 2: Catholic pope following Italians. Yeah, they built your cities. And
Speaker 2: you know who your cops were a couple of years
Speaker 2: after they you know, got over their scumbag phase. They
Speaker 2: were a lot of Irish cops. That's why you see
Speaker 2: Irish cops in the Bugs Money cartoons, because it was
Speaker 2: a reality. Anyway, I'm sorry to have yeah, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: to have interrupted your show, but I wanted to point
Speaker 2: out that this dynamic where there is this group impediment
Speaker 2: and this adamization of movements and all that has been
Speaker 2: the co intel pro of all ages and has existed
Speaker 2: for a long time. And they destroyed the Truther movement
Speaker 2: in quick order as I see it, because you go
Speaker 2: ten years back and it's a whole other animal with
Speaker 2: a whole other group of people, and it's weird to
Speaker 2: see some of the survivors and.
Speaker 1: The way they act today, you know, Jason, So we should,
Speaker 1: they should, they should. They deserve to be publicly shamed,
Speaker 1: honestly for the crap that they have done and that
Speaker 1: they're doing. And honestly, that's my humble intent. I want
Speaker 1: to make a video about this topic. And that's what
Speaker 1: the Patreon thing is of going back into truth DVD
Speaker 1: archives trying to figure things out. I want to put
Speaker 1: together a video piece of I don't know how long
Speaker 1: it's going to be to put together presenting this and
Speaker 1: put it out there, and like you said, it'll probably
Speaker 1: go nowhere because it'll you know whatever. Well, you can
Speaker 1: put it up on Rumble and make the attempt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can put it up on Rumble until
Speaker 2: they turn on you, because that's been the other trend here.
Speaker 2: Don't forget the tech bros that started out with freedom
Speaker 2: of speech. Uh you know the little blue ribbon on
Speaker 2: your website, you're for freedom of speech, Internet freedom. That
Speaker 2: that's something from the nineties even, you know, because I
Speaker 2: had one on my original website. Anyway, you know, YouTube
Speaker 2: started out as something that people stuck up plenty of
Speaker 2: copyrighted material and nobody cared. You know. They put up
Speaker 2: old TV shows and everything up there, plus their own
Speaker 2: stupid videos and anything they could transfer them from the
Speaker 2: vhs went up on YouTube for a while. Then it
Speaker 2: became something else, and then it continued to evolve. But
Speaker 2: nowadays we're dealing with controlled content. The corporate media's inundated
Speaker 2: it just like every other platform. And what have they
Speaker 2: done swallowed up anything or destroyed anything which is actually
Speaker 2: independent and could be competition, you know, search, destroy, and consolidate.
Speaker 2: That is the American corporate way. And that's what we
Speaker 2: see in the Internet. That's what we see in the
Speaker 2: information sphere, and that's what we see, you know, even
Speaker 2: regarding the alleged independent rebels of the past. And I
Speaker 2: think this is going to be one of the best
Speaker 2: pieces of work you ever do, and I'm looking so
Speaker 2: forward to seeing it. And God help you you get
Speaker 2: somebody to actually do that YouTube documentary, because that.
Speaker 1: Oh I would love to see that. I'm not the
Speaker 1: person to make that, but I would love to see it,
Speaker 1: because if you just went through a document like oh,
Speaker 1: and then they did this and it's this, and then
Speaker 1: go forward to now to where you're just pointing out
Speaker 1: where people are just explicitly saying you have to make
Speaker 1: content for the algorithm. And people are just saying that outright,
Speaker 1: like hey, look, no other concerns, No, Like, oh, here's
Speaker 1: how you make something look good, here's how you do lighting,
Speaker 1: here's how you do this, here's how you make an
Speaker 1: interesting story or whatever. Like no, it's like, here's how
Speaker 1: you work with the algorithm. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: Now it has evolved to that where we're just explicitly
Speaker 1: saying that and everybody's okay with that.
Speaker 2: That and buy my crazy that and buy my program
Speaker 2: that'll put your voice into a realistic looking baby puppet,
Speaker 2: you know, do that for digital effect. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a bad idea when I
Speaker 2: wanted to turn us all into fish in a bowl,
Speaker 2: you know, for videos. I think we'd be very successful
Speaker 2: right now, but nobody wanted.
Speaker 1: To do it. It's okay.
Speaker 2: I know it still rubs you the wrong way, but
Speaker 2: I'm telling you your performance artist's side. I bet you
Speaker 2: regrets you didn't come with me on that idea. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I leave it at that. But if that YouTube thing
Speaker 2: ever gets made, I'm telling you somebody better sell it
Speaker 2: to Netflix because it'll never survive on YouTube. But it
Speaker 2: could be a series on Netflix. Actually, you know, part one,
Speaker 2: two or three to see it, you know, the emergent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't even have to credit. Don't credit us
Speaker 1: as your inspiration to make it. Don't even ever mention
Speaker 1: Chuck or myself. Just make it and do what you
Speaker 1: will with it. I want to watch it, Okay, listen.
Speaker 2: I would be glad enough to have a copy of
Speaker 2: it one way or another and be thrilled. If you
Speaker 2: want to send a check, I'll take it. But I'm
Speaker 2: telling you it would be a contribution to mankind if
Speaker 2: you get that thing made and stick it on Netflix.
Speaker 2: I mean, and they'll probably do it. They should be
Speaker 2: able to fund that. You know, they funded other things,
Speaker 2: crazy stuff, you know, for a company that lost money
Speaker 2: for a decade and somehow still had you know, many
Speaker 2: billions of dollars to work with, just saying they're a
Speaker 2: privileged company as well, But they do stuff like this
Speaker 2: where they will show you some of the evolution of
Speaker 2: the Internet scammers influencers. They kind of like the Dirty documentary.
Speaker 2: So I think somebody could sell like a three or
Speaker 2: four part series on YouTube documenting what it was, and then,
Speaker 2: you know, in the future, maybe you could add to it,
Speaker 2: but just end on whatever year you finish the damn thing,
Speaker 2: and then you could add.
Speaker 1: To it what happens next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so lots of potential and I'd be
Speaker 2: more than happy to see somebody get rich off of that.
Speaker 2: You know, I would love if you involve Aaron because
Speaker 2: he's the originator of the idea. But believe me, there
Speaker 2: is fertile material there. Anyway, I'll shut up now, and
Speaker 2: anytime you want to close your hour is good. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry I interrupted, but I think this was a necessary
Speaker 2: exercise given where you were going. And I look so
Speaker 2: forward to this stuff you're gonna do, and I hope somebody,
Speaker 2: Oh I pray somebody does that YouTube documentary and I
Speaker 2: get to see it.
Speaker 1: Because that me too. Meanwhile, I'm gonna be making a
Speaker 1: video that makes fun of Mark Dice and company. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people are going to be
Speaker 1: interested in the video I make, but that's okay. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do it. That's what we're working on at once.
Speaker 1: I said once again Patreon, that's the ongoing project. So
Speaker 1: if you want to support, that's good and then you
Speaker 1: can join me. I'd like it if people could be
Speaker 1: there for the live streams. I'm trying to schedule them.
Speaker 1: That's kind of hard, like I've been doing them so
Speaker 1: late at night, but that's kind of like the only
Speaker 1: time I've been able to schedule them.
Speaker 2: But maybe I can work with that. But needless to say,
Speaker 2: you know, Patrion has a live happening. Yeah, Patreon has
Speaker 2: a live option now too. I don't know how it
Speaker 2: works yet, I have I know, I know.
Speaker 1: I was mentioning that at the head of the show
Speaker 1: that they actually you can live stream direct to Patreon now,
Speaker 1: which I think is awesome. I almost did it this
Speaker 1: last time, but I used the YouTube. I think next
Speaker 1: time I'm going to go direct to Patreon just to
Speaker 1: see how that is, because I know I can use
Speaker 1: my ops for it even too. So actually, i think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give that a shot.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see if Yeah, I'd love to see
Speaker 2: if that helps or if that attracts it, Like, let
Speaker 2: me know how that works out, because that might be something.
Speaker 2: You know, Look, if you just stay to your own
Speaker 2: little you know, fan driven obviously, you know websites are
Speaker 2: now passed, I'm told, But if you stay to your
Speaker 2: own little fan driven platform for as long as you
Speaker 2: can stay on a platform, maybe that is the way
Speaker 2: to go now, you know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah. I'm impressed with what Patreon's done with their functionality,
Speaker 1: and on the creators side, I'm I think they're doing
Speaker 1: a great job, and I'm as a creator, I just
Speaker 1: feel like there's so many options and ways to use
Speaker 1: it that I think it's great. So I'm going to
Speaker 1: keep posting there.
Speaker 2: For audio, the network via Spreaker has all those options too.
Speaker 2: Just so you know, we could go live on spreaker.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, stop using if I get totally
Speaker 2: crushed with everything and I keep Speaker, we could go
Speaker 2: live on Spreaker. We could create content behind a paywall
Speaker 2: on Spreaker. We could also still maintain the free podcast
Speaker 2: up to a certain limit. You know, you can't keep
Speaker 2: the RSS feed full forever. You got a limit. But
Speaker 2: maybe they'll change that too, or maybe I can buy
Speaker 2: more space. I don't know, I think I could actually
Speaker 2: buy a higher level if we were taking in some money,
Speaker 2: I could buy a higher level on there, and you know,
Speaker 2: have the storage even to really maintain stuff. And who knows,
Speaker 2: maybe they'll go to video as well. But so far
Speaker 2: it's an audio platform, just as Diversus Patreon, except its
Speaker 2: primary purpose is not you know, paid subscriptions. So I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, we'll see. I don't know, I'm I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so weird in terms of audience reach, everything,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's weird. But I'm happy to be
Speaker 1: doing this, and I think that the actual production of
Speaker 1: another video presentation is what I should do, and I
Speaker 1: think that'll be I think it'll be good.
Speaker 2: So we're going to work toward You are overdue for
Speaker 2: some video content outside of Uncle. Just saying I think
Speaker 2: the people that really appreciate you would very much appreciate
Speaker 2: a brand new, you know, a series of videos, small
Speaker 2: ones or a long form one. I think they would
Speaker 2: really appreciate that. Been a long time since the age
Speaker 2: of transitions, and you know, so you know, all right, anyway,
Speaker 2: I'll shut up now and you do your thing any
Speaker 2: which way you want, and we'll be coming up with
Speaker 2: Uncle Live soon and we're gonna go past midnight Eastern,
Speaker 2: just everybody knows on the live stream. But of course
Speaker 2: if you're listening to the podcast, you don't care. So anyway, Aaron,
Speaker 2: thanks again for letting me talk. I'm sorry if I
Speaker 2: took up too much time, but I thought I don't know,
Speaker 2: I just thought that that had to be added in
Speaker 2: and it would work with what you were talking about there.
Speaker 1: So okay, sounds good, Chuck, thank you, and yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that next hour is coming up Uncle the podcast
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Speaker 1: You are the same to uncle the broadcast. My name
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Speaker 8: Uncle, Hello, lady and gentlemen here it is three and
Speaker 8: seventy nine or three eighty I don't know which something.
Speaker 8: But here we go on this. I said in the
Speaker 8: beginning of the show, Well, last week, I'm going to
Speaker 8: open up this letter we got.
Speaker 12: Since there's no callers.
Speaker 8: Get okay, Well we are, yeah, ready to listen to
Speaker 8: see what O ED had to say.
Speaker 1: We do we have a let's go, let's go have
Speaker 1: a letter that we got from ED. Don't want to
Speaker 1: have blocked out the addresses, but this is it. We
Speaker 1: are going to We'll open this. But uncle, before we
Speaker 1: do that, we gotta let people know they can call.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, put the number down.
Speaker 1: You can call. We're live on the Chili Radio network
Speaker 1: on Friday night as always. You can call in three
Speaker 1: one nine, five two seven, five zero one six.
Speaker 12: That is the number to call.
Speaker 1: You can try. Okay, now, okay, So, as we were saying,
Speaker 1: as you were saying, as you were saying, we got
Speaker 1: mail from ED and uh yeah, so we gave him
Speaker 1: our mailing address. We need to get a PO box.
Speaker 1: Everybody can send us up. But this is good. He's
Speaker 1: got some cool squirrel art on here.
Speaker 2: Let me pull.
Speaker 12: I knew that was his because his friendly squirrels were
Speaker 12: on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, so check it out. It's pretty cool again.
Speaker 1: It's got squirrels. They're talking and everything. Yeah. So here
Speaker 1: the squirrels are talking to us. There's squirrels on the
Speaker 1: back and it's crazy. They went, but what's the thing?
Speaker 1: You boys better listen up? They won't, but at least
Speaker 1: they have uncle on Friday nights. The two leggeds are crazy,
Speaker 1: of course they are. Just look at the ones they
Speaker 1: pick the rule over them. So the squirrels are having
Speaker 1: a conversation and goofing on the humans. Is what this is? Uncle,
Speaker 1: You want to see what's in this.
Speaker 12: Let's see what's in this letter because last week.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what's in here?
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 1: Two dollar bill, which I think is awarded to you,
Speaker 1: uncle for the I believe this is the Kansas City
Speaker 1: super Bowl one for you picking the Eagles to win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Now wait a minute, this is how
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 8: Hmmm?
Speaker 1: Does that seem right?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything's in order with this.
Speaker 12: Yeah, all we got when is your buddy?
Speaker 8: I'm still waiting on the Kansas City lick check. Yeah
Speaker 8: you know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I think so, I see Count Pupper's in the chat
Speaker 1: over Twitch. Thanks for being her account.
Speaker 8: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Sorry to everybody that we haven't been here every week.
Speaker 1: We missed last week. We've missed a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: just because things have been coming up here. But we're
Speaker 1: here tonight and we're happy about it. Creative accents, Hello
Speaker 1: to you as well. He's excited about the squirrels. Wow,
Speaker 1: what a great envelope. I know, it's really something. He asked,
Speaker 1: how you're doing, Uncle, fine? I down, fine, you're fine.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we gotta walk ahead of us though. Okay, so
Speaker 8: I've been looking on.
Speaker 12: Shell walk.
Speaker 1: People who follow the TikTok might be aware that we're
Speaker 1: putting black lava rocket.
Speaker 12: Black blah blah blah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we we got a good load for that came today.
Speaker 1: We're doing that again.
Speaker 8: We're doing it again. I think it should fill it up.
Speaker 8: Should the actually the four hundred should finish it.
Speaker 1: Should Yeah, but.
Speaker 8: I had to straighten your booboo up tonight. My boo boo, Yeah,
Speaker 8: my boo boo that they didn't want a bat far back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, before the bucks.
Speaker 8: When I fill it up. So I'm just doing that.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm just correcting something that I realized I didn't do.
Speaker 1: Let's see her there maybe better we'll see, uh. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it's it's good to be back on. We're here on
Speaker 1: the live show. We're it's Friday. We've got people in
Speaker 1: the club. The o'chelly dot com chat was down on
Speaker 1: the listen live page earlier.
Speaker 2: That was the thing.
Speaker 1: But Shellie chat is up and running. Uh if anybody
Speaker 1: had as let's see how I'm trying to pull up
Speaker 1: the olly chat specifically. Well, anyway, I don't see it.
Speaker 2: I forget.
Speaker 1: That's been a while. If some make graphics, I don't call.
Speaker 1: I get lost in this.
Speaker 8: That's the why I'm saying, you're playing around a bit
Speaker 8: too much. Yes, you playing back and forth, back and
Speaker 8: for it.
Speaker 2: The issue is we don't have it at the Uh
Speaker 2: excuse me, I'm a little trouble coughing, but we uh,
Speaker 2: we don't seem to have it working on the website.
Speaker 2: But the Chattango box is still working. So if you
Speaker 2: go to the o'celly effect, which is the dash o'celly
Speaker 2: dash effect dot Chattango, which is chat Ago dot com,
Speaker 2: if you go there, the chat room is fully live
Speaker 2: and active. But that's not my player page and all
Speaker 2: that because somehow it's not working and I'm not sure why.
Speaker 2: Just occurred right before my show tonight. So but it
Speaker 2: is working with people to visit it, although they can
Speaker 2: visit it on the website, on the main website, like
Speaker 2: you know, without going to my page. But you know,
Speaker 2: so it works. But for some reason the thing I
Speaker 2: have on my website is not working. Uncle, So I
Speaker 2: don't know why.
Speaker 8: Your side, then I got to fit. That's your side.
Speaker 8: You gotta fit on your side.
Speaker 2: But if people want to join, yeah, if people want
Speaker 2: to join, I'm gonna tweet the the chat room over
Speaker 2: to Aaron on X or you know, give him an
Speaker 2: X message or whatever. So I'll attach it to the
Speaker 2: live broadcast because you're you're broadcasting on X right.
Speaker 1: Uh No, we no longer are able to broadcast on
Speaker 1: X because I don't have the premium. But we're going
Speaker 1: out on TikTok at.
Speaker 12: We're going out on tictac. We're gonna throw out X
Speaker 12: and go to my tic tac throwing it out.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm hitting you.
Speaker 8: I've been mentioned in today to tell them that because
Speaker 8: I didn't I want to.
Speaker 1: We're going out on TikTok on on Twitch, rumble and
Speaker 1: kick right now.
Speaker 12: That's what's replacing you.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go over to YouTube and put it in the YouTube
Speaker 2: chat as well. If people want to come over to
Speaker 2: the Ocelli chat whatever. You can go to any chat
Speaker 2: room you want. I don't care. But in case you
Speaker 2: were wanting to go over there, I'll give it to
Speaker 2: you over on YouTube. I just got to find uncle's
Speaker 2: YouTube channel real quick and then I'll put it out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, very good, very good, Yes, thank you chat.
Speaker 2: So don't worry Uncle.
Speaker 1: The chat is working fine, and we got lots of
Speaker 1: chat action going on with creative accidents and count Pepper
Speaker 1: over there Twitch. Glad to see you all there, he says,
Speaker 1: creative actions. Accident says uncle, someone cut my brand new
Speaker 1: tires on my car. They have anything to say to
Speaker 1: the guy who did it?
Speaker 12: You mean after you?
Speaker 1: Now, well, they cut the I guess new tires.
Speaker 8: Got that's a plain new vehicle and they cut the
Speaker 8: plein new tire. That's a pay that they got to pay.
Speaker 8: Go after them and then go after that to go
Speaker 8: to go to the lawyers.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, what is that?
Speaker 8: What is that layer?
Speaker 12: A good lawyer?
Speaker 1: What is the peg?
Speaker 13: A good lawyer to court?
Speaker 8: And then then he handled this problem.
Speaker 1: Bring them to justice.
Speaker 12: Yeah, bring the justice.
Speaker 1: And I have this.
Speaker 8: Crazy judge. Guys, I'm best. That's wild, and you get
Speaker 8: so many much money back if we win and so
Speaker 8: far and so.
Speaker 1: Far, Okay, there we go. That needs to be rectified
Speaker 1: like that. That's crazy. That's terrible. Bad to hear. But
Speaker 1: I didn't know they gotta pay. Okay, I get he'll
Speaker 1: get a good lawyer, he says, Okay, good, you're on
Speaker 1: the right track. Create back sense. We're gonna fix this, okay.
Speaker 1: And then he's also asking about Robbin Northern man. I
Speaker 1: don't know he's doing. I haven't heard from him.
Speaker 12: By the way, I believe he was gonna not do
Speaker 12: this week.
Speaker 8: Annoying man.
Speaker 1: You had an operation.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: Last week.
Speaker 8: I've been opervation he had, and he said it may
Speaker 8: not be able to come i'd say for a couple
Speaker 8: of weeks until he's straightened out.
Speaker 12: Hopefully whatever the opervation was.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's recovering.
Speaker 8: He's re covering probably now, and I can understand that.
Speaker 1: We hope he so Robin, if you're out there, we
Speaker 1: hope that you're doing okay. They're recuperating. Everything went well,
Speaker 1: and yeah, reach out to us. I haven't opened up
Speaker 1: Instagram in a while, so if you send a message
Speaker 1: in there, I missed that, but send an email or whatever,
Speaker 1: and yeah, we hope that you're okay. So hopefully Robin
Speaker 1: will hear from him again soon. So we don't know
Speaker 1: though on that one. If any if anybody does want
Speaker 1: to call in, anybody at all, we would love that,
Speaker 1: love to get a call again. You know the number
Speaker 1: three one zero one six. If you're on TikTok and
Speaker 1: you're watching this, we cannot see what it is you
Speaker 1: might be saying in the chat because we don't have
Speaker 1: the app. We're not doing it directly through the TikTok app.
Speaker 1: We're sending it through an advanced system of digital broadcasting softwares.
Speaker 8: But of course he is playing in his toys here,
Speaker 8: of course, you know if you know.
Speaker 12: What, and he's going nuts.
Speaker 1: And I do have Look, we are technologically advanced, and
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up the TikTok live monitor. I'm pulling it up.
Speaker 1: Put a comment. I will say, this is sidekick using
Speaker 1: the ticktalk. What is this thing called again? Live center
Speaker 1: from our control room? Yeah? Yeah, and today please join
Speaker 1: us in the chat. There we go. Okay, so okay,
Speaker 1: I can't see the live chat. Well I just corrected myself. Uncle,
Speaker 1: I can't see that there. It is. It is.
Speaker 8: It's taking over it. It's taking over the X machine.
Speaker 1: We're taking it over. We're taking over.
Speaker 8: To X anymore. I've told him past week, I didn't
Speaker 8: want the X anymore.
Speaker 12: But now that tic tack.
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: Change while I'm on here, I've changed the topic. Thank Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was set to gaming, which works when we're playing games,
Speaker 1: but now I'm setting it to chat and interview.
Speaker 12: No, I can't interview now.
Speaker 2: We're not.
Speaker 12: We're not in the game fight now.
Speaker 2: Not right now.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 1: No, we might be at some point, but not right now.
Speaker 2: No, we're not.
Speaker 8: That's not only on Saturdays anyway, that's right. And besides,
Speaker 8: we got too much work to do.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot to do it always.
Speaker 8: I don't know if we're gonna get it this week.
Speaker 1: Uh yep, so okay, that's good. Let's see here. Don't
Speaker 1: forget to press the button.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you used that button and then and get it going.
Speaker 1: If you're on any of Uncle's social media, press offends
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Speaker 1: We're still in there. We're on their Uncle. We're just
Speaker 1: not using it to live stream, so we use it
Speaker 1: to send out little important messages anything.
Speaker 2: I'm on the YouTube thing right and I don't see
Speaker 2: the live show. I even went to the live link
Speaker 2: over there, and I can't find the live.
Speaker 1: Show really really on YouTube. Okay, let me see it's
Speaker 1: I mistitled, but it should be up. Let me go
Speaker 1: to the channel right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at the Kevin guests.
Speaker 1: Still, let me see it live. Oh you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't see it.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what, I know it's not running.
Speaker 1: Chuck, I know what the problem. I know what the
Speaker 1: problem is. See, when I take a week off, I
Speaker 1: forget to press all of the buttons here. I'm going
Speaker 1: to change it. Now, let me change something else before
Speaker 1: I do that. Actually going in a little look at
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes action here kind of sort of,
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Speaker 2: I didn't check. You wouldn't even know that YouTube's not
Speaker 2: even out.
Speaker 8: I know, I know playing with his toy said, this
Speaker 8: is what I call them playing with his toy machine.
Speaker 12: That's his that's his toy machine. I mean, what's it
Speaker 12: doing on the.
Speaker 1: Day at Toy Machine Skateboards Temple. Then okay, let's see
Speaker 1: if it's there now.
Speaker 2: Now let me see.
Speaker 1: I want because this is actually a good test because
Speaker 1: they'll see if I if I change something in restream
Speaker 1: on the fly, if it shows up. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if it will. Oh here it is here, it is here,
Speaker 1: it is Yes, it did. Oh awesome?
Speaker 2: Oh wow?
Speaker 12: Who is that man?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go. Okay, so it's
Speaker 1: a there now. Okay, so that's interesting to know.
Speaker 2: Now you are alive, yes, sir, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: You like the graphic, Chuck, can you see the graphic?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see the mobile graphic.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah that showed up too. I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of cool. We're improving a couple of things. Uncle,
Speaker 1: don't worry too much. Oh and we got a comment
Speaker 1: on YouTube as soon as we went on there. Let's
Speaker 1: let's see what that is. Boy, this is really working instantaneously,
Speaker 1: see you now, Okay, sorry about that, Pepper. And now
Speaker 1: now I realized while you were on Twitch. That was
Speaker 1: un very unlike you. Let's go to the chiktok Live center.
Speaker 1: It looks like there's we haven't had too many viewers,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna use weight user six six three eight
Speaker 1: two nine four one three nine six five eight joined
Speaker 1: joining it.
Speaker 8: I think so, yeah, it's a joiner.
Speaker 2: Know I gotta join it.
Speaker 8: I got enough paper that can join it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hello user, Okay, so we're glad to have you
Speaker 1: on what whatever platform you're watching? Of course, there's the
Speaker 1: old Chili Radio network at Chili dot com. Well you
Speaker 1: know that's gonna be up on a Friday night. There's
Speaker 1: other stuff. I press the right buttons, it shows up correctly.
Speaker 1: See sometimes.
Speaker 12: Okay, now you got the buttons.
Speaker 2: Pop.
Speaker 8: I don't touch anymore please, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of the reasons I decided not
Speaker 1: to use Patreon to go love.
Speaker 8: Let's see where is oh buddy mine? Uh, Jimmy has
Speaker 8: old Jimmy at tonight.
Speaker 1: He could call us. He could call if he's so
Speaker 1: usually the one on everybody call up three zero and six.
Speaker 1: We need you. I don't have my list of topics written.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to have a whole list.
Speaker 12: Yeah, where's the list.
Speaker 2: All those operators, buddy, Yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Can before you still next week, before you get on
Speaker 8: your show, organized the listing you're gonna talk about for
Speaker 8: boat shows. I know that would limit and ate the problem. Now,
Speaker 8: I know you don't know all this other stuff doing.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna We're just gonna go through our graphics
Speaker 1: because we can.
Speaker 8: Because that guy jumping at the place.
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of Internet research and we got
Speaker 1: to take our podcast in the direction of the man
Speaker 1: O sphere, and so I have this graphic. That's the start.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get more detailed and better with the
Speaker 1: three D graphics. I want that sphere to literally be
Speaker 1: spinning and the manosphere to be more legible. Guys, I
Speaker 1: need to open up that h three D program and
Speaker 1: learn the animation a little better and work on the
Speaker 1: three D graphics because I think if we made we
Speaker 1: can make some really silly three D graphics would be fun.
Speaker 1: Was the idea behind that manosphere. But yeah, uncle, the mansphere,
Speaker 1: we're part of it now, Okay, so everybody, I.
Speaker 13: Should have liked that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, now that's pretty good, that the desert tech thing.
Speaker 1: I like that picture, right, Tic Tackers We're going to
Speaker 1: pull you in with these crazy graphics. We know that
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to watch this. This is a podcast
Speaker 1: you're watching.
Speaker 12: This is a podcast tonight.
Speaker 8: And that not a talk show. I mean a talk
Speaker 8: show supposed to be a tork show.
Speaker 1: There you go, Oh look what if I overlay you
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 8: Okay, and Bunny that is on the AM, on a
Speaker 8: talk call it up and on AM.
Speaker 12: Let's go there. Number man, let's get going with those phones.
Speaker 12: Let's move along now.
Speaker 1: Please, yes, please call us up. This is the number.
Speaker 1: Three one nine seven five zero one six. He'd be
Speaker 1: part of this multimedia presentation. Extraordinary. You can be a
Speaker 1: part of that.
Speaker 8: I have to push it a little because that way
Speaker 8: they move along.
Speaker 1: Now you think that's going to get them here?
Speaker 8: Uncle, Yeah, but you have to push it a little.
Speaker 1: We have to push the phone number.
Speaker 8: That's what I've been seeing.
Speaker 1: So please call in. Yeah, if wherever you are, however,
Speaker 1: you're listening, we want to hear from you. Get in
Speaker 1: the chat, Get on the phone. Joined the Uncle Show.
Speaker 1: This is an interactive experience. We're part of the Manisphere.
Speaker 1: Now on the comedy show. Yeah, it's a comedy show.
Speaker 1: It's funny sometimes, uh, you could be funny on it.
Speaker 1: We're playing around with graphics because we can. I've saved uncle.
Speaker 1: Do you like all these graphics that go around saving
Speaker 1: and putting into the obs? Is this cool?
Speaker 8: This is pretty nice? I like some of these things
Speaker 8: that one.
Speaker 1: It's crazy city here. This looks like we're in a
Speaker 1: video game or something.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 8: There's a mocho man got the and as your there's
Speaker 8: your man next to man.
Speaker 1: Macho man by himself with orble g we have this
Speaker 1: jugglo graphic. We've got this, oh, business cards if we
Speaker 1: ever feel like talking about business cards, We've got the business.
Speaker 8: Card graphic in income from.
Speaker 1: We've got the aliens guy. We've got and then drop
Speaker 1: mom thing. You've got a war concert from the Beats
Speaker 1: and butt heead video game. We've got is my there's
Speaker 1: my MS.
Speaker 8: Rams faceban face.
Speaker 1: Here's the rams right there. We've got an American eagle,
Speaker 1: not the store, but an actual eagle with a flag
Speaker 1: behind them. We've got Gallagher smashing the water, boon smashing on.
Speaker 1: We've got all this important stuff. We've got Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: standing in front of Uncle. This is all the stuff
Speaker 1: that when you're in a manisphere you need Okay.
Speaker 8: Well, and there's that crazy man again.
Speaker 1: Man, that's you. That's who we're talking about. You're talking
Speaker 1: about yourself. Uncle. But yes, we've been doing a fine job.
Speaker 1: We've been putting a lot of the TikTok videos out
Speaker 1: and then reposting of t They seem to be doing
Speaker 1: well for videos.
Speaker 8: I just hit that and we go ahead and just
Speaker 8: put them on the tic tank.
Speaker 12: I just put it over to.
Speaker 2: The show what.
Speaker 8: He does and text and take it to it. That's it.
Speaker 2: Oh uncle.
Speaker 1: Now we're getting graphic requests, which it looks like creative accents.
Speaker 1: I think wants to see, uh, Hillary Clinton looking at balloons?
Speaker 1: Here she is?
Speaker 12: She is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a classic right there. It's hard
Speaker 1: to it is hard to top that. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. So we have that and.
Speaker 8: I don't understand that face though.
Speaker 1: We have that's a post reacting and then this is
Speaker 1: our reaction to it.
Speaker 8: Okay, going nuts like a monkey here, right, So have a.
Speaker 1: Cat driving a car, a cat going we have oh.
Speaker 12: Uncle, oh there's a baseball face.
Speaker 1: There's your baseball. You got a baseball from your head?
Speaker 8: There you go.
Speaker 1: I like that special, so make great graphics. We just
Speaker 1: I keep collecting more. It has become almost an addictional
Speaker 1: well to you.
Speaker 8: It is Ben, I'm going something and you just playing
Speaker 8: with those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I think it makes the show
Speaker 1: look cool when I do it in a way that
Speaker 1: almost makes sense, kind of looks. We're going to check
Speaker 1: the tic tac live monitor.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Stevie Smith. Hey, Stevie Smith. Stevie Smith. Love to see
Speaker 1: you here for the show. There you go, Thank you,
Speaker 1: Stevie Smith. We're really glad that you've decided to join
Speaker 1: the TikTok Live. I am seeing you via the TikTok
Speaker 1: Live center in our multimedia command center. I'm able to
Speaker 1: see that's there he is. We see, we see that
Speaker 1: he's joined. We're chatting. I think we're TV. If he
Speaker 1: could be so kind chat and leave a message in
Speaker 1: the chat and it might even show up on the
Speaker 1: mainstream too. I can't remember if when people chat on TikTok,
Speaker 1: if it shows up in our chat thing or not.
Speaker 1: We've got creative accidents. I can't remember if I think
Speaker 1: the TikTok comments are stay. I think they stay in
Speaker 1: TikTok for some reason. But the chats on the other
Speaker 1: platforms come through. I believe creative accidents is excited. He's lemons.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, uncle, when life gave you lemons? Did
Speaker 1: you make lemonade that? He's how about the TikTok lemon video? No,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, remember remember when we were in La
Speaker 1: helping oies move?
Speaker 12: No, no, what made that?
Speaker 8: That's a it's my tea lemon teas what I do
Speaker 8: is make my tea and it goes to the limits
Speaker 8: and pop the lemon in and it's it's momented.
Speaker 12: All right, who's this on the call?
Speaker 8: Just the moment people went to Taka Hello, Hey, hey.
Speaker 14: Your uncles jim me Jans.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Jimmy, I thought you show up somewhere somewhere in
Speaker 8: this his hour.
Speaker 12: So what do you think is gonna happen this year?
Speaker 14: Well, Mike person should have went to the Lions. But
Speaker 14: those doup bag how boys trade them off to the packers.
Speaker 14: That's gonna cause problems.
Speaker 8: You mean, but eleven went to the packers.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 8: I saw that move, but I didn't know if that
Speaker 8: was a serious trade off. They gonna they're gonna lose,
Speaker 8: They're gonna lose something they're gonna lose something in that team. Now, yeah,
Speaker 8: I think.
Speaker 3: A little much.
Speaker 15: I think it's I think the Cowboys are seriously good.
Speaker 2: School over the.
Speaker 1: It looks that way while they're just being spiteful toward
Speaker 1: one other team and.
Speaker 8: Because they got jealous of not getting in last year.
Speaker 12: That could have been.
Speaker 1: Oh oh we got at a call?
Speaker 12: Hold on Jimmy again. Nothing cool.
Speaker 8: Let's see who this is. I take this tenicol. Let's
Speaker 8: see who this is with the talking?
Speaker 1: Hello, what's what's your h what's your topic?
Speaker 2: Color?
Speaker 8: Got your top?
Speaker 16: Hey, it's the cow I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm tired.
Speaker 1: Top it?
Speaker 8: No topic? What is the problem?
Speaker 1: Me and no public? Will we love to stand? Will
Speaker 1: we let no topics stand?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 12: I have some kind of took.
Speaker 2: Of course they think something. Of course the guy hold,
Speaker 2: I got nothing? Of course the guy from Jersey shows
Speaker 2: up with no topic. That's all right, jer I want
Speaker 2: to say, hi, how are you doing?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 1: It is good to hear you, Papa, to put on the.
Speaker 2: Spot like that.
Speaker 1: It's great to have you on here, and we encourage
Speaker 1: others to call just join in here.
Speaker 8: This is all about Oh, we just getting the took
Speaker 8: and wanted to see if. Uh, we have two calos
Speaker 8: that shot out, So now we have somebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. I got a weird thing to throw.
Speaker 2: Maybe count wants to work with this. Uh, somebody started
Speaker 2: a totally weird, angry conversation with me. But before it
Speaker 2: went all sideways and I lost my guests for for
Speaker 2: this week. It was pretty funny, but they actually started
Speaker 2: the conversation with you know what, if you were going
Speaker 2: to be a Sesame Street character, which one do you
Speaker 2: think you look like? And which one do you think
Speaker 2: you are?
Speaker 12: And that's an easy one for.
Speaker 1: Me, it's easy for you. Yeah. Oh wow, So how's
Speaker 1: his answer already?
Speaker 8: I amn't I know?
Speaker 1: This is my guy in an argument shot characters.
Speaker 2: No, No, Israel got me into an argument. But it
Speaker 2: was the guy insisted talking about that, even though that
Speaker 2: was not what we were supposed to talk about. Food
Speaker 2: coloring and you know, stuff in the food supply and
Speaker 2: this and that, and the guy had worked in the
Speaker 2: food industry and it was a whole thing, brand new guests.
Speaker 2: And the next thing is he needed to know what
Speaker 2: I thought of Israel and what was going on. And
Speaker 2: the next thing I knew, I'm you know, a worthless
Speaker 2: human being. So I had to, you know, let the
Speaker 2: guy go. Uh you know, I'm like, okay, sorry, sorry
Speaker 2: to waste your time. But it started out. The conversation
Speaker 2: started out nice and friendly with which Sesame street character
Speaker 2: do you think you'd be? And I thought it was
Speaker 2: funny that it went from that to that and when I
Speaker 2: lost the guest about food coloring? Anyway?
Speaker 1: Sorry? Interesting, that's cuit a conversational arc there, indeed, But
Speaker 1: now we all have to say what sesame character we are?
Speaker 1: So I guess we should start. You want to start
Speaker 1: with both colors?
Speaker 12: What is your chemiicter?
Speaker 1: That's should be asking Joe first.
Speaker 12: Jimmy, you first?
Speaker 8: What is your camp camp character?
Speaker 17: I would like to be Fozzy the Bear?
Speaker 2: Nice?
Speaker 1: He wants to be Fozzy Fozzy the Bear. That's cool,
Speaker 1: Ozzi the Bear, Fozzy the Bear. Okay, so that's uh, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: let's go to Pupper next. Who you gonna be here?
Speaker 2: So, so, Jimmy, Jimmy Waka Waka count would he choose?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Pretty obvious?
Speaker 16: Like off the Dog?
Speaker 1: Yes, there we go, choice dog?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 8: Who else?
Speaker 1: Am I going about? The song?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: What? What song for? I? I can't think off the
Speaker 2: top of my head, what Rolf the Dog song is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Rolf the Dog he was one of those
Speaker 1: that played the piano. Yeah, and he played pretty much
Speaker 1: every song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking he's part of the The Electric Mayhem.
Speaker 2: It was called rights of.
Speaker 16: The Thing heard sing like the song about I never
Speaker 16: heard an onion? So why does it make me cry?
Speaker 2: I hope that's something better and the long I can't
Speaker 2: remember off the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was that was an original for them
Speaker 1: on that one. Yeah, and I remember the band had
Speaker 1: Doctor Teeth. It was Doctor Teeth and the Electric something
Speaker 1: or other and an animal played drums. Yeah. What was
Speaker 1: the female character? She was part Genie Janie Janie for
Speaker 1: sure Janie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: I forget the other ones, but they were in there,
Speaker 1: the saxophone guy that didn't talk. Are we making a
Speaker 1: distinction between the Muppets and Sesame Street because there's that
Speaker 1: dog Barkley on Sesame Street too.
Speaker 2: We're definitely, yeah, we're mixing all the Muppets apparently, But
Speaker 2: that's okay. Doctor Teeth and the Electric Mayhem is the
Speaker 2: name of the band, Yes.
Speaker 16: If that's it, okay, We're thinking Justice Street and Harry Monster.
Speaker 16: I like Harry Monster.
Speaker 12: Oh wow, Harry Monster.
Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, cool, Okay, who's next uncle, Who's
Speaker 1: the next sesame?
Speaker 8: What about Chuck?
Speaker 1: Chuck? What sesame character are you?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 8: You're seeing z Ben's Honkey? Well, I I'm sorry, I
Speaker 8: gotta go with Gonzo.
Speaker 2: I told you nothing ever worked. He's blowing stuff up.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and he's got his little chickens
Speaker 2: around him. I mean, it's just so crazy, you know.
Speaker 2: It's either that, like I got to tell you, it's
Speaker 2: almost almost a tie though, with the Count himself, because
Speaker 2: I mean he was just smooth, you know, the Count,
Speaker 2: Like I almost die laugh. And the first time I
Speaker 2: heard Dave Chappelle go I know a pimp when I
Speaker 2: see one, that cracked me up because he was like,
Speaker 2: the Count's a pimp look, and I was like, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: I almost fell over, like seriously busting a gut first time.
Speaker 2: Somebody said that, because I was always fascinated by the Count.
Speaker 2: But I would say, if I was to be a character,
Speaker 2: I'd have to be gone so.
Speaker 1: Very cool. Okay, So uh so Chuck is Gonzo? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Gonzo's hilarious. He always made me laugh as a kid.
Speaker 1: As a Sesame Street character, I'm going to choose Grover.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's who I am, right, Grovers. Cool aside,
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 2: Why wait a minute, Aside from the roundness of your head,
Speaker 2: which does make sense for Grover, why are you Grover?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like Grover is always demonstrating
Speaker 1: things and here's this, here's that. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what I'm doing on the podcast, like here, here's this.
Speaker 1: He does that.
Speaker 12: It fits him, it fits him.
Speaker 8: I can see that.
Speaker 2: And super Grover not being so super all the time.
Speaker 2: You go with that too, I mean that's still all you.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, oh yeah, yeah, I can I can relate
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, okay, all right, uncle. You know what
Speaker 1: that means is back on you. What sesame character?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 8: My favorite one?
Speaker 18: Cookie Minster my cookie see uncles, Yes, uncles makes more
Speaker 18: sense than anybody.
Speaker 2: Although I'm surprised you didn't pay the aliens. You have
Speaker 2: the aliens?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that they would go.
Speaker 12: I was between the aliens and that one. I was
Speaker 12: between the two.
Speaker 8: But I'm picked.
Speaker 1: I did like those guys. They were cool.
Speaker 12: Oh oh, the two guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were two of them. They would coming and
Speaker 1: they only do that thing where they do there's nonsense
Speaker 1: the called noises.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was on Sesame Street. I do believe, right, I know.
Speaker 13: What you do about two guys?
Speaker 1: How does the bit work?
Speaker 2: How that work? They would show up and they'd start
Speaker 2: like one to go meet the only meet me and
Speaker 2: me me me, me me me yep up yep yep
Speaker 2: ye that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're thinking they would like agree with each other.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's thinking of the two old guys in the box,
Speaker 2: is what Uncle's thinking. But I'm talking about these were
Speaker 2: two blue aliens.
Speaker 1: That one was blue and one was like maroon or
Speaker 1: red or something. There were two colors.
Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, look, God, I could be mixed up
Speaker 2: because I didn't always have a color TV.
Speaker 12: But yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the two aliens.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they I didn't know. I didn't remember that.
Speaker 1: They would talk to each other in this nonsense alien
Speaker 1: language and.
Speaker 12: I didn't remember that.
Speaker 1: Somehow it was always we got me on that.
Speaker 12: One because I don't remember that one.
Speaker 2: And sometimes they get the loop. Yeah, my favorite loop
Speaker 2: was yep yep, yep, yep, yep yep yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, yep.
Speaker 8: I don't remember them. No one knows. I'm pased.
Speaker 12: Nobody picked big big, big.
Speaker 1: Big bird is definitely assessme streets.
Speaker 2: One of them was purple and one of them was blue.
Speaker 2: That's correct, Aaron. I forgot about that, like purpleish reddish
Speaker 2: guy and the other one being but I remember the
Speaker 2: blue one.
Speaker 1: I have a good memory for weird stuff that doesn't
Speaker 1: matter like that. I can remember that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Things that are important. I don't remember, like you know,
Speaker 1: people's names. I got you, but no, I can't do that.
Speaker 1: But I can remember the two different colors of the
Speaker 1: aliens on Sesame Street from when I was all okay.
Speaker 2: Well, no problem. If you enter in YouTube Sesame Street
Speaker 2: and martians meet a clock that was one of their
Speaker 2: best ones, by the way, because they're like all freaked
Speaker 2: out by the clock.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go back look. I gotta go back and
Speaker 8: look at this because.
Speaker 1: Oh, uncle, you would you would love that bit. I guarantee it.
Speaker 1: You'll get a kicked out of that.
Speaker 2: No, it's a great and there's no words. It's just
Speaker 2: them doing their you know, their communication, which is just
Speaker 2: you know, crazy. Yeah, I'm gonna get the link to
Speaker 2: the video and put it Nelli chat because it's just priceless. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the two aliens o'clock. Here we go, So there's a
Speaker 2: YouTube link. Yeah, you are you?
Speaker 16: And I remember talking about old YouTube a lot during
Speaker 16: the last hour and just speaking of have you obviously
Speaker 16: seen like the count on count uh censored video like
Speaker 16: very early YouTube.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does sound familiar.
Speaker 16: It's like a thing in and he loves the loved
Speaker 16: the engage in fornicating, but you know, instead of the
Speaker 16: count sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of weird o guns still. You know,
Speaker 2: my favorite like Muppet.
Speaker 14: Like really old YouTube.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, my favorite like old Muppet YouTube thing
Speaker 2: was is this is your left your left this is
Speaker 2: you're right, you're right, And it was right hand left
Speaker 2: hand like an old Muppet video for like many minutes,
Speaker 2: and then it's led and my dogs are barking. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I think my son, Yeah, my son's coming home from church.
Speaker 2: But at the end of this thing where it's going
Speaker 2: your left hand, your right hand, your left hand, your
Speaker 2: right hand, the little puppet goes You're gonna die and
Speaker 2: then wives goodbye to you, and that's the end of
Speaker 2: the video. Do you remember that one.
Speaker 16: Was that on aquaitine and hunger for him?
Speaker 2: That sounds very familiar. Well, many of the adult animations
Speaker 2: would turn around and mimic stuff from old Internet, like
Speaker 2: you know the banana song, Peter jelly time, Peter but
Speaker 2: jelly time. Remember that guy that been dancing banana pe
Speaker 2: baseball bat?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, anyway, the family guy pick up on
Speaker 1: that too, Yeah they did.
Speaker 2: That's why I brought it up, because yeah, many shows
Speaker 2: grab that.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: There was also the weird like singing thing that would
Speaker 2: run around like it looked like a cgi I don't know,
Speaker 2: creation n ding ding ding ding d ding ding ding
Speaker 2: ding ding ding ding ding And.
Speaker 1: It was just this crazy Is that that weird toad
Speaker 1: crazy toady toadrazy frog? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. And there's that
Speaker 1: one where he's where he's riding like some sort of
Speaker 1: space bike to the Beverly Hills cop axel f song
Speaker 1: right by Harold Faltermeyer. Yeah, that one was popular with
Speaker 1: my kids when they were younger a couple of years back.
Speaker 1: That that Internet video has survived to this day at
Speaker 1: least kids still watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's been around like more than twenty years
Speaker 2: easily that video. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying there's
Speaker 2: some stuff going that has continued to survive a long time,
Speaker 2: but then there's other things that are just you know, lost,
Speaker 2: like the days we had you know, throw throw bin
Speaker 2: laden in a blender and this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, and uh.
Speaker 2: There was there was also a whole website. Yeah, whole
Speaker 2: website devoted to throwing gerbils and blenders and microwaves and whatever.
Speaker 2: And you press buttons to like cook them or whatever
Speaker 2: animate the thing, and it would it would give you
Speaker 2: choices up to a certain points, spare them or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then after a while you had no choice and
Speaker 2: you had to stick them in the microwave and then
Speaker 2: they would blow up and say thanks buddy, you killed me,
Speaker 2: you know, and you'd be a splattered mess all over
Speaker 2: the world. Yet, like weird stuff like that used to
Speaker 2: be big on the internet.
Speaker 1: I think that was. I think that's like a flash
Speaker 1: animation thing. Yeah, talking about Chuck. I do I do
Speaker 1: remember that stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Flash is gone now the same yeah an error,
Speaker 2: yeah right exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, does anybody use flash anymore?
Speaker 2: Is that so around? I don't think you can.
Speaker 8: It's not supported.
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's not supported anymore.
Speaker 2: Like believe it or not. Chattangos our Chatango room used
Speaker 2: to be based on Flash and then they changed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah a long time ago. But they changed it when
Speaker 2: they were you know, like a little bit ahead of
Speaker 2: them getting rid of Flash. They are like, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: changing this to HTML five or whatever, and so you know,
Speaker 2: we had to change our code a little bit. And
Speaker 2: I did that, you know, six seven, eight years ago,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe longer. I don't even know, but yeah, Flash
Speaker 2: is gone. Yeah, that's an end of an era for sure.
Speaker 2: What happened to him flash? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uncle, why don't you talk about the then to flash?
Speaker 8: That's number of flash.
Speaker 2: And I'm Mary Allen.
Speaker 12: I was watching mess.
Speaker 19: Uh the flash Yeah fast claim and he went by
Speaker 19: life fist Yeah, before the eye ball he was gluing.
Speaker 8: That's how fast?
Speaker 1: How Yeah, that's well, that's why he leaves so quickly.
Speaker 1: That's why when Flash is gone, it's because he's so fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Hey, uncle, do you want me to put Jimmy back
Speaker 2: on with Pepper or because you know he's sitting there
Speaker 2: hanging out. We did ask him them up and go
Speaker 2: ahead and.
Speaker 8: Go ahead and bring him on, let him talking.
Speaker 2: And I had anybody else in because we're probably down
Speaker 2: to the last I don't know, eighteen minutes or so,
Speaker 2: so I want to let anybody else know the calls in.
Speaker 2: I'll just add you there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, calm it.
Speaker 15: By the way, we on the early YouTube stuff. Do
Speaker 15: you remember that series back when you could only have videos?
Speaker 15: There were like ten minutes, the one about Chad Vader,
Speaker 15: the brother to the Darth Vader.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a popular one. You saw those, uncle,
Speaker 1: You watched those that Darth Vader working in like a
Speaker 1: grocery store videos. Oh oh he was he was just
Speaker 1: he was Darth Vader. But was he the manager in.
Speaker 17: Manager assistant manager?
Speaker 15: It was over the empire.
Speaker 20: Actually, actually I didn't hear him until they went to
Speaker 20: the space stuff. When they started going to the spaces
Speaker 20: when I started watching, Yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: In the in the it was a silly these old
Speaker 1: I don't think you were watching YouTube at that time. No, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're aware of this, uh wizard of
Speaker 1: YouTube history. I wasn't watching.
Speaker 13: Has that noise?
Speaker 12: It's going not crazy after doing the crazy stuff?
Speaker 13: That's hello, Hello, Arian We really had some action.
Speaker 8: Tonight with those guys.
Speaker 2: Just have to throw that random Sorry you did that.
Speaker 12: I thought it was the original people.
Speaker 1: Now is that sounds familiar to you?
Speaker 2: Do you remember?
Speaker 20: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, that reminded me of something.
Speaker 1: So you've seen that before.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that was way back though, way back before
Speaker 8: she missus miss kick was looking.
Speaker 12: I was watching that.
Speaker 8: That's how far the way it was. But buzzing around
Speaker 8: now that this sht up, you know, it's really strange
Speaker 8: to know what is going to happen. I don't know
Speaker 8: anybody's gonna know.
Speaker 1: Are you predicting the future now?
Speaker 8: Uncle?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 12: This future is coming out.
Speaker 1: You're so you know what's going to happen.
Speaker 12: Know what's going to happen?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: What's happening? What's happening in the future? Show us laid
Speaker 1: on us. We can handle this song.
Speaker 12: It's the one who picks, you pick.
Speaker 8: The people.
Speaker 1: The one who picks will pick the people.
Speaker 12: So it's tick the people.
Speaker 1: Peter Piper, Oh, Peter Pan, Peter Piper picks a peck
Speaker 1: of picko pen. Yeah, Piga Pan, that's our future.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Joe.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's cryptic as it had ought to be, But
Speaker 1: I can deal with it. Uncle. We're all mature enough
Speaker 1: listening that we can deal with this. I think it's
Speaker 1: not too dark of a future here.
Speaker 8: We are trying to understand what the future is coming to.
Speaker 8: We still have a little problem of finding out what
Speaker 8: the future is coming to on this whole thing, because
Speaker 8: people are looking in the sky looking for space stuff.
Speaker 12: It's crazy.
Speaker 8: But if you believe it or not, they're out there.
Speaker 8: They are, They're out there. They're just coming down. The
Speaker 8: light up the sky. Those there's one thing that can
Speaker 8: light up the sky. It's those those those people. Those
Speaker 8: people are light up the sky. Huh ye, bring them on.
Speaker 8: I'm ready to see that sort of thing. I would
Speaker 8: have seen the big one that look, I said, I
Speaker 8: saw the big wemark and that showed it showed me.
Speaker 12: Well, you guys were playing in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: We missed that.
Speaker 8: You missed it, man, You.
Speaker 12: Should have seen that.
Speaker 1: It's not really fair, is it.
Speaker 12: Well, I've seen it, But you.
Speaker 8: Guys are not paying attention in the skies. You're talking
Speaker 8: about looking in the sky and at these guys and
Speaker 8: you won't paying attention.
Speaker 12: You got to pay attention, both of you, both of us.
Speaker 2: You're not.
Speaker 12: We warn't paying attention. What's in the sky?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well that was the bos the bottom line up there.
Speaker 8: These know, these two I'm talking about these two, Well
Speaker 8: what space guys.
Speaker 21: But I walked out to the bottom of the norm
Speaker 21: in this house on this on the bank porch and
Speaker 21: sw it through the window.
Speaker 1: I flipped through the wa an alien was looking at
Speaker 1: you through the window.
Speaker 8: The space thing came up and went down. I'm still
Speaker 8: in fond about that video. Okay, that thing is a
Speaker 8: wheel video.
Speaker 12: A wheel space thing.
Speaker 2: Bill.
Speaker 8: You know how these government people are talking about, oh,
Speaker 8: this is this, this is it, they'll flip out, flip out.
Speaker 8: If they saw what I saw, they wouldn't even say
Speaker 8: a word no more. They'll shut up. And that be
Speaker 8: it for these people to the if they saw what
Speaker 8: I saw, and that's the truth.
Speaker 1: H interesting. Okay, well I like that story. That probably guys,
Speaker 1: if you're on TikTok, I'm sure kim A, do you
Speaker 1: like this amazing story of uncle's contact.
Speaker 8: It's a contact of knowing back in the time when
Speaker 8: I when I originally saw it at the time, I
Speaker 8: saw it, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, you saw it, but they didn't see it.
Speaker 8: You didn't see it.
Speaker 1: Now, I didn't. I didn't see it, but you saw it.
Speaker 1: It was out your window, out.
Speaker 8: The back from I was saying, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 8: the window, right, I was saying, I'm going to see
Speaker 8: what's out here. I said to myself, and it light
Speaker 8: up my eyeballs saw that big thing come out. Man,
Speaker 8: I thought the start, I thought the blue colors will
Speaker 8: turn daytime again. When I saw the spaceship, I'm dead suit.
Speaker 12: And it was a big one, a big, big one.
Speaker 8: It's the one that she was supposed to wait for.
Speaker 8: But she did not see it either.
Speaker 1: She didn't see it, even though she was waiting for.
Speaker 12: Kit did not see it.
Speaker 8: And that's what she's talking about. There coming, Nick coming,
Speaker 8: Nick coming.
Speaker 12: Well I saw it. You all didn't. That's the bottom mine.
Speaker 1: Because uncle said so yeah, okay, all right, well that's good.
Speaker 1: I think this is a good place to leave the show.
Speaker 1: But before we do, we you have to probably get
Speaker 1: our shout outs from our callers, right all right?
Speaker 12: Number one cooler shut out?
Speaker 8: Who we got?
Speaker 1: That'd be you, Jimmy tonight, Oh.
Speaker 14: Shout out to Ram.
Speaker 17: I think you be confusing. I must figure it your guys.
Speaker 17: They're up to some kind of strange strategy. There must
Speaker 17: be something behind and firing all the cheerleaders and hiring men.
Speaker 8: I think it's some kind of fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm glad you're shouting out the rams. Jimmy, Uh,
Speaker 1: glad to have you, man. We'll talk to you next time.
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's get to shout out from Popper Papa next.
Speaker 16: Yeah, like they have acting to saying the chat, shounding
Speaker 16: out the Robin. Hope he's recovering going well. I guess
Speaker 16: I'll shout out to all my muppets and mild streets too.
Speaker 1: M hm cool, All right, Paper, thanks for comming man.
Speaker 1: We'll go on again soon. So yeah, take it easy,
Speaker 1: thank you. Okay, So I'm gonna shout out likewise to Robin.
Speaker 1: We hope that you're doing well. I hope you're recovering.
Speaker 1: Reach out to me in an email. I'll check this.
Speaker 1: Maybe i'll send you a message on Instagram. I'll open
Speaker 1: that up. Shout out to Ed for the great mail
Speaker 1: and for sending okhos dollar for your artwork. As always,
Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody who happens to be just listening
Speaker 1: to the show. So that's my shout out, Uncle, who
Speaker 1: you got shut out.
Speaker 12: To the same guy.
Speaker 3: I hope you.
Speaker 8: And I have everybody to end. The listeners in the
Speaker 8: Out of Town News, thank you for listening. If you're listening,
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Speaker 1: The TikTokers and the TikTokers, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: Everybody in the chat, thank you for listening. Up live
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Speaker 8: Upset on my not Chuck's once pay intent to.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is what I do wrong?
Speaker 12: Yeah, you're getting compute, I misspeak.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well you're.
Speaker 12: Saying Chuck and I'm saying us.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well all right, well you you made a mistake,
Speaker 1: but you okay, Uncle, rectify the situation, give out all
Speaker 1: the relevant links to everything.
Speaker 8: There you go, and then what what do they need
Speaker 8: to go to the Uncle the Podcast's uh liners, not
Speaker 8: the lines of all of those lines you mentioned, and
Speaker 8: to listen to that and push the button when you
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Speaker 2: Do right, smash that button wherever you go and you
Speaker 2: find Uncle the Podcast of course, Uncle Theepodcast dot Com.
Speaker 2: We're always live on Fridays, on o'chelly dot com. But uh,
Speaker 2: you know the podcast exists on Uncle thee podcast dot
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Speaker 2: the tic tac everything. By the way, Uncle, just really quick,
Speaker 2: there is one listener in Canada tonight. Maybe it is Robin.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's him recovering. I hope it is, and if
Speaker 2: it is, I hope you're doing well, brother, and I
Speaker 2: hope everything went well. But we'll maybe find out next week.
Speaker 2: Also we have Germany listening in as usual, same spot
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Speaker 8: Dog, same guys always do you talk my shows? I
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Speaker 12: You know, we gotta get a Germany b you no,
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Speaker 1: Where can we get those Germany? There's no accounting there's
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Speaker 12: Anybody anybody on the podcast go to Germany.
Speaker 1: There we go. So that's a that's a call to that.
Speaker 2: And really quickly, just there's no accounting for the foreign
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Speaker 2: to know we got Germany and Canada and many people
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Speaker 3: So uh, glad to have you all along?
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