Speaker 1: Odal fs are.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult
Speaker 2: of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan, I'm Jack, and
Speaker 2: we have some of the most dangerous retards to ever
Speaker 2: get on the Internet. Welcome to the show, Top Lobster
Speaker 2: and Raven from the Nephylum Deaf Squad.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having us, guys, very happy to be here. Yes,
Speaker 3: in fact, very dangerous, very retarded. We are I guess
Speaker 3: the host of Nephilim Death Squad, which is I guess,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: We do something.
Speaker 3: I don't know what we do really, but no, we
Speaker 3: are the host of Nephlin Death Squad. You can find
Speaker 3: us everywhere except for YouTube at the moment because we've
Speaker 3: been banned. That was a nice little Christmas, you know,
Speaker 3: morning surprise for us. We woke up yesterday and we
Speaker 3: had a guest down that dared to talk about the
Speaker 3: potential benefits of alkaline water, not to be discussed on YouTube.
Speaker 4: We've seen all things, of all things everything that we say,
Speaker 4: like I mean, it was like like I was like,
Speaker 4: check out that that bookmark. David like, what did the timestamp?
Speaker 4: And he goes it's like it's alkaline water and basically
Speaker 4: all our guests that was like, yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 5: Wait wait wait wait wait tom To. There was no
Speaker 5: like racial epithets being used. The hues were in charge
Speaker 5: of the alkaline was any of that being used. It
Speaker 5: was just like the fact that y'all mentioned alkaline water.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: We have an episode with Dustin Nemos on YouTube named
Speaker 4: The Final Solution where all he does is talk about
Speaker 4: Jews and we let him go. We're like, yo, cook, bro,
Speaker 4: it's still up there this one. They were like, alkaline water,
Speaker 4: that's a step too far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. It's our mutual homie
Speaker 3: Matthew Rife, not the comedian, the actual based mad scientist.
Speaker 1: And super fucking based, but I love that guy.
Speaker 3: He's on the show the other day and all it
Speaker 3: is is, you know, somebody in the comments said, hey,
Speaker 3: is there any benefits to drinking alkaline water? And more
Speaker 3: or less Matt said, I think there could be.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He doesn't even doesn't even sell a product for it.
Speaker 4: He was like, actually, I bought a bunch, I don't
Speaker 4: even sell them. I'm kind of giving them away. And
Speaker 4: it just turns out YouTube was like, I can't believe
Speaker 4: he said that. Of all the other things we said.
Speaker 4: We denied the election, the holocaust.
Speaker 3: Denied the assassination attempt of Donald Trump. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: The list goes on and on. Apparently no trespassing is
Speaker 3: grand enough until you have Matt Rife on the show.
Speaker 3: And so, uh yeah, don't support us on YouTube. If
Speaker 3: you guys want to come and check out the content,
Speaker 3: go and find us on Rumble or virtually everywhere else
Speaker 3: for your audio feeds.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is is that it was like
Speaker 2: a year or two ago. I think that Gwyneth Paltrow.
Speaker 2: I think she was talking about the benefits of alkaline
Speaker 2: water and as she was saying that, she was squeezing
Speaker 2: a lime into it, and it's like, fucking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So all right, Gwyneth. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you ever took second grade science, but there's a thing
Speaker 5: called a pH scale. You adding acid to a alkaline
Speaker 5: substance makes it a neutral aka basic fucking water, you
Speaker 5: stupid cunt.
Speaker 4: Anyway, isn't that the lady with the vagina candles?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, ah, yeah's pepper, Tomas, Yes, it's pepper,
Speaker 3: And she talks about eating placenta and also I believe
Speaker 3: putting potentially period, menstrual blood on your face.
Speaker 1: I think that's what I heard, jammis you can with
Speaker 1: pissu in.
Speaker 5: What regard.
Speaker 1: Putting it out.
Speaker 5: I personally piss on my feet every time I'm in
Speaker 5: the shower, and that's because in the Marines they taught
Speaker 5: us that's how you kill athletes foot right, So that's
Speaker 5: number one. Uh number two. Yes, there's people that are
Speaker 5: into a lot of weird shit, kinks and things like that. Look,
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna yuck someone's youm I will say, I
Speaker 5: draw the line at scat yo. When shit or puke
Speaker 5: makes its way into the bedroom, I'm fucking done and
Speaker 5: we're I'd rather die. But that's just me.
Speaker 2: But you're open to somebody golden showering you, I guess
Speaker 2: I've heard that. Okay, Well, as long as it's for health,
Speaker 2: then I guess it's okay.
Speaker 5: The menstrual blood, I've heard all kinds of stuff with
Speaker 5: that too. Placenta. A lot of women who have babies,
Speaker 5: they'll make like teachers of their placentine. That helps with
Speaker 5: the the postpartum depression of stuff. Like I'm I'm a dude,
Speaker 5: I have no dog in that fight. If a chick
Speaker 5: wants to cannibalize a section of her own anatomy, like
Speaker 5: that is between her and God. I'm I'm all, dude, let.
Speaker 4: Me tell you guys a quick story, because now you
Speaker 4: bring up a lot of topics. We're talking about how
Speaker 4: bad the day Christmas was. Yesterday, we get a second
Speaker 4: strike on YouTube two weeks suspended, so we can't post there.
Speaker 4: We don't even know if we'll continue on top of that.
Speaker 4: So I'm walking around. I'm like just punching the sky
Speaker 4: and I'm walking outside and my wife's like, get the dog.
Speaker 4: So I look at the dog and he's got a
Speaker 4: little string out of his mouth and he's She's like,
Speaker 4: take it out of his mouth.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is it?
Speaker 4: So I go when I go to grab it, swallows it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know what that was. We go inside,
Speaker 4: look in the bathroom here. We had a party the
Speaker 4: day before. Somebody must have been on there. My dog
Speaker 4: goes in, he goes, knocks the garbagekin. This blood everywhere
Speaker 4: I'm looking at, just blood on the floor, rags, he
Speaker 4: ate the tampon, he was chewing it. Just I immediately
Speaker 4: google it. I'm like, what happens if dog eats tampon,
Speaker 4: and I was like, he's gonna die. You need to
Speaker 4: like do something, and like it's Christmas Day. I'm not
Speaker 4: bringing to the dog. He's a he's a puppy, but
Speaker 4: border cap.
Speaker 3: Oh he small, that's gonna get The problem is now
Speaker 3: he's got a taste for blood and once that starts, man,
Speaker 3: once it pops, the fun don't stop.
Speaker 1: So I would just say keep an eye on. I'm
Speaker 1: not bringing my kid around anymore.
Speaker 4: I'd assume you guys are in the science section on
Speaker 4: your podcast, right semi okay, Yeah, this is where we
Speaker 4: had to go. We actually cracked. Well we'll talk about
Speaker 4: the comedy thing, but so this is science. Hydrogen peroxide
Speaker 4: three percent you can give your dog per five pounds
Speaker 4: five milli literers. I gave Hi nap, threw it up, nicey, nice,
Speaker 4: nice little tampon. There was a there's a story from
Speaker 4: a menstruation in dogs.
Speaker 5: Dude, I tell you what English mastive. She eats whatever
Speaker 5: and she will shit it out like there's there's nothing
Speaker 5: getting hung up, you know what I mean. But for
Speaker 5: a dog that size, yeah, you absolutely had to hit
Speaker 5: that hydrogen prox.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say, my dog.
Speaker 2: He's uh, he's part boxer, part Wiener, so he has
Speaker 2: like the long wiener body and then the boxer head,
Speaker 2: which is very strange looking.
Speaker 5: But anyway, he is very cute as well.
Speaker 1: All Right, So my I got him off with my sister.
Speaker 2: My sister had an accidental, you know, breed of puppies,
Speaker 2: obviously a boxer and a Wiener dog. But I guess
Speaker 2: he was so retarded whenever he was a little puppy
Speaker 2: that they literally would call him helmet and uh. And
Speaker 2: that's really why I wanted him, because I like just
Speaker 2: fucking dumb dogs.
Speaker 1: It's just cute to me. And so anyway, we ended
Speaker 1: up bringing him home.
Speaker 2: And dude, I can't tell you how many times, So
Speaker 2: I have a two year old baby, like, I mean,
Speaker 2: he's coming out of his baby stage, but he's still
Speaker 2: wearing diapers and shit like that. Right, Well he has Dude,
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times he's eaten shitty
Speaker 2: wipes and it just shoots him out, just shits.
Speaker 1: Them out like it's no big deal.
Speaker 3: Dude, Boxers are known for eating like shit whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he's exclusively menstrual blood.
Speaker 5: You can't do it.
Speaker 4: I hate. You can't more than you hate my dog.
Speaker 4: But dogs do like to eat like literal shit garbage
Speaker 4: you put themselves in it. I don't know what this
Speaker 4: show's about.
Speaker 1: Well, they as we're.
Speaker 5: Talking about that, we were talking about Christmas, right, and
Speaker 5: y'all had kind of a bad Christmas to start, but
Speaker 5: then it sounded like it kind of turned into a
Speaker 5: very merry Christmas for y'all at the expense of a
Speaker 5: uh what would you call him? Beat here? Uh you
Speaker 5: see tire YouTuber? I would I don't know if i'd
Speaker 5: call him eightsier anymore. He may have been somewhere at
Speaker 5: the top a while ago, but he kind of fell off.
Speaker 3: Pool right, Yeah, Tim Poole, I would say, monetarily, uh
Speaker 3: a tier, but culturally see tier probably see here maybe
Speaker 3: d tier, but there's still hope for him.
Speaker 1: No, it was a little bit of a Christmas miracle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, midway through the day, I guess as the festivities
Speaker 3: wound down, top Lopster decided that.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 4: Tim Poole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time to poke a Tim Poole dude.
Speaker 3: And he took the bait and he'd bit hard and
Speaker 3: then he got ratioed into oblivion.
Speaker 1: Not just by us, but by let's.
Speaker 4: Set the table. Yeah, because I think this this might
Speaker 4: be interesting for you guys.
Speaker 5: To that sounded like y'all just decided fuck Tim Poole
Speaker 5: this morning.
Speaker 4: Like no, no, no, well, you know it's like I
Speaker 4: mean sometimes I do, but not. I was like, this
Speaker 4: is the you know, the birth of our Lord and
Speaker 4: Save Jesus Christ, if you believe in that, or if
Speaker 4: you think Olenz zero came into this a whole thing.
Speaker 4: So uh. It starts off with the babylon be Right,
Speaker 4: who's a Christian organization but also a right wing organization.
Speaker 4: But the more I pay attention to them, the more
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, no, you guys are like pseudo Christian,
Speaker 4: pseudo right wing. You do a lot of like feigning
Speaker 4: that you are but then sliding over to this side.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't like that. It's very subversive. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and so they take a very click baby Yeah yes, yeah, sure,
Speaker 4: I mean it's what it's what I'm like, not me specifically,
Speaker 4: but people who are like talking about the JQ stuff,
Speaker 4: it's what they're accused of, Like, oh, you guys are
Speaker 4: doing it for clicks. It's like, now you're kind of
Speaker 4: doing stuff on your end for clicks or because you're controlled.
Speaker 4: So I like to call them out. And here we
Speaker 4: have Tim Poole who is running cover for them in
Speaker 4: a tweet while he's in the middle of a sale
Speaker 4: from selling his company to possibly The Daily Wire, which
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that that's happening, but there's been talks.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh, you you know you are a
Speaker 4: running It's not that he's running cover for Israel. It's
Speaker 4: that like when he has somebody on his show that's
Speaker 4: talked about this side, like the other side of that
Speaker 4: war out, he literally yells at them and shouts them down.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if you guys ever seen that.
Speaker 3: I mean, the man literally yells at his guests, like
Speaker 3: screams at them, and it's like he turns rid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like the way. I don't like the
Speaker 1: way he talks to his guests like that.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 2: It's like, you gotta you're supposed to have at least
Speaker 2: some level of respect for the company that you haven't
Speaker 2: around dude.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah he doesn't.
Speaker 4: It's this is why this is what I've been I
Speaker 4: was saying, like before the show, I went on and
Speaker 4: the level of joy that was in that place. At
Speaker 4: first of it was cold, but the level of joy.
Speaker 4: Everyone was kind of like scared, fumbling around, like Tim's upstairs,
Speaker 4: he's mad today for whatever fucking reason.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what you guys do. Like, imagine you're
Speaker 4: you're able to do your dream job, which is this
Speaker 4: sitting here talking on a microphone. But you're doing it,
Speaker 4: ir L, You're flying the people out, talking to them
Speaker 4: face to face. It's a fucking dream. You're miserable doing it.
Speaker 4: And it's like, I get it, But I think the
Speaker 4: reason he's miserable is because he's not really controlling what
Speaker 4: he's doing. Someone's telling them what to do. And I
Speaker 4: would be miserable too. If I'm a creative I wanted
Speaker 4: to create and someone's telling me how to do it
Speaker 4: and he's like, here's just take money, just continue to
Speaker 4: make this show boring and bad, I'd be a little
Speaker 4: bit upset. And that's what it seems like. That's what
Speaker 4: seems like he's doing. So yeah, where was that whatever?
Speaker 5: Well, it got so bad to the points where, like
Speaker 5: it y'all didn't just like talk shit pretty much. The
Speaker 5: internet came to life. And I'm not saying fully docks him,
Speaker 5: but uh, I would say uncovered some of the truth
Speaker 5: of his standings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, by the end of the night, Ohen,
Speaker 3: Benjamin decided to wake up from his hibernation and start
Speaker 3: just tearing apart Timpoole as well.
Speaker 4: So Jake Shields as well. I mean, yeah, mma fighter
Speaker 4: Jake Shield's own Benjamin are just so. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is a free for all. I just backed up.
Speaker 4: I was like, my bad. I didn't want to like
Speaker 4: hurt you. I didn't even want to hurt you. This
Speaker 4: is how the conversation went. I just said, damn, Tim,
Speaker 4: you're already running already on the Daily Wire payroll because
Speaker 4: he's he's running cover for a tweet that the Babylon
Speaker 4: be made, which is basically anti They're making fun of Christmas,
Speaker 4: which is like, I get that you're doing this comedy thing,
Speaker 4: but they do it real slick like, like they kind
Speaker 4: of like play both sides of the fence. When I
Speaker 4: think you mean it, I don't think this is a joke,
Speaker 4: and I do a lot of jokes, but when somebody
Speaker 4: means it, I'm like, hmmm, I don't like that. That
Speaker 4: was mean spirited. They did that temple Rin cover for them.
Speaker 4: So I said, are you already on the Daily Wire payroll?
Speaker 4: Like they're paying you to do this? And he answers me,
Speaker 4: big mistake. Never answer if top lopster is there, and
Speaker 4: I'm clear, I'm feeding you clear bait. Don't answer me
Speaker 4: because it's just not going to go good. So he says,
Speaker 4: what does Santa and Crampis have to do with the
Speaker 4: Daily Wire? And I just said, just just keep running
Speaker 4: cover to him, and this is when he loses it.
Speaker 4: He just goes, you're retarded, and I'm like, oh, now
Speaker 4: I have him on the hook. So I correct him.
Speaker 4: I go, why, oh you are with the asterisk, which
Speaker 4: makes no sense. He spirals further. He goes, no, yeah,
Speaker 4: reverse gram or not see him.
Speaker 5: The wrong waytentious, So like he's gonna take that and
Speaker 5: just fucking have an autistic screech about it.
Speaker 3: Well, suddenly thinks he actually stumbled upon somebody who mistakingly
Speaker 3: and that's that's I mean, a huge lack of you know,
Speaker 3: sight on his behalf.
Speaker 4: I don't mean to brag, but there's a reason why
Speaker 4: I have so many followers on Twitter, and there's a
Speaker 4: reason why so many people have interacted with me in
Speaker 4: this way. They like the people that get it get it. Oh,
Speaker 4: and Benjamin followed me because of the Twitter and then
Speaker 4: came on our show Top Tower Gang, I don't know,
Speaker 4: like five fucking times because he's like, oh yeah, these
Speaker 4: guys get it. Same thing with Sam Tripley. So this
Speaker 4: was like just verbal jiu jitsu, and I'm like, let's
Speaker 4: see what he does. All of his fans don't get it,
Speaker 4: so they immediately start attacking my spelling, and I'm like, perfect,
Speaker 4: you guys are midwies.
Speaker 5: It's apostrophe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like a good job, guys.
Speaker 4: That's like the test of have you ever heard of
Speaker 4: have you eaten breakfast this morning? How would you feel
Speaker 4: if you didn't eat breakfast this morning? And the low
Speaker 4: IQ person says, but I did eat breakfast, and then
Speaker 4: you go, well, how would you feel if you didn't?
Speaker 4: And they just continue in the loop because they can't
Speaker 4: understand how they would right entertain hypotheticals, right, yeah, so
Speaker 4: this is what I'm presenting to the audience. They fail miserably.
Speaker 4: Tim gets really angry and then he responds with the
Speaker 4: threat and he says, is your intention to destroy all
Speaker 4: opportunities for yourself so that when people start avoiding you,
Speaker 4: you can just blame the Jews.
Speaker 1: Honestly, right here top, what you said was it was?
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. It's one of the one of your
Speaker 1: better moments on Twitter.
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, So I'm like, is that a threat, Tim?
Speaker 4: Because it listen, in this line of business there they
Speaker 4: can like blacklist you, or they think that they can.
Speaker 4: So I just said, is that a threat?
Speaker 1: Tim?
Speaker 4: Oh wait, let me go back here, and I said,
Speaker 4: why do you think you or your ilk have anything
Speaker 4: to offer you besides a plane ticket and a boring experience?
Speaker 4: And from there it's just like gone out of control. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because this is a guy that I've sat down face
Speaker 4: to face and talk with, but he treated me like garbage.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, well, here we are now years later,
Speaker 4: and I'm just calling you out on playing your role
Speaker 4: in whatever culture war you think you're a part of.
Speaker 4: And it didn't go good for him.
Speaker 3: People are He just kept he just kept like responding,
Speaker 3: and it was weird because it was like he just
Speaker 3: kept getting you know, the ship slapped at you over
Speaker 3: and over again, and he just keeps insisting on interacting
Speaker 3: with Top, with me, with Tower, getting you know, with
Speaker 3: all these different people who just keep bodying him.
Speaker 5: It was it was just can't stay away, dude, he's
Speaker 5: like a glutton for punishment. Or y'all are actually helping
Speaker 5: his statistics very.
Speaker 4: Well, Yeah, he doesn't need No, we're not helping his metrics.
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy, if you look at his if
Speaker 4: you're talking about like the pay on Twitter for engagement.
Speaker 5: No, I'm saying making him relevant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's part of a cultural conversation right now,
Speaker 3: just because of the Daily Wire thing. But you know,
Speaker 3: what we kind of were for him was like, you know,
Speaker 3: the ghost of Christmas Future. Like there's all these other
Speaker 3: ghosts in the Christmas Carol movie and then there's the
Speaker 3: really scary one, which is the Ghost of Christmas Future.
Speaker 1: Essentially that was us.
Speaker 3: We were haunting Tim and he was able to, I think,
Speaker 3: look down the line, realize that the cultural ball was
Speaker 3: getting ripped out of his hands and it was being
Speaker 3: done by rather despicable retards, and I think he could
Speaker 3: kind of you know, it's a good thing, it's.
Speaker 4: A healthy thing. I don't again, I don't hate Timpool.
Speaker 4: I think that he's a little egotistical, but who isn't sure.
Speaker 2: Look, I think there's probably some there's probably some like
Speaker 2: company lines that he can't cross, especially if he is
Speaker 2: about to go onto the daily wire. So it's kind
Speaker 2: of like unfair because he can't say certain things. Maybe
Speaker 2: he can't say what he actually wants to say. And
Speaker 2: you guys are just having the fucking time of your lives,
Speaker 2: going absolutely insane with saying whatever you want. So I
Speaker 2: can imagine how that could turn you into an old
Speaker 2: frustrated man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, let's put on the imagine theory hat, but David,
Speaker 4: imagine this though. I'll just reread that tweet again because
Speaker 4: it's it's it's at the crux of I think what
Speaker 4: everybody here does and why people listen in general. The
Speaker 4: is the intention to destroy all opportunities for yourself so
Speaker 4: that when people start avoiding you, you can blame the Jews,
Speaker 4: is what he's telling me. And it's a straw man,
Speaker 4: of course, but it's an admission where it's like, ah,
Speaker 4: you've gotten like like, look, we have a microphone and
Speaker 4: an ability to speak into the ether, and people will
Speaker 4: listen possibly if you're speaking you know well enough. Let's
Speaker 4: just say that's a good word to use. And you're
Speaker 4: no longer able to do that because you're talking about
Speaker 4: your connections. You're talking about being I don't give a
Speaker 4: fuck if you remove me from society I used to
Speaker 4: work from. I've been removed from society a bunch of times.
Speaker 4: I used to work for Odyssey. I got fired for
Speaker 4: liking Jordan Peterson with my name. Okay, and this was
Speaker 4: a free speech company. This is not there's nothing to
Speaker 4: gain from other people. It's about me. Like if I
Speaker 4: can build something myself, people will follow. And I think
Speaker 4: it's pretty much been proven here. But you know, you
Speaker 4: can go down that path. You can get millions of
Speaker 4: shekels or whatever Federal Reserve notes. It doesn't quite matter
Speaker 4: because you can't do what you want to do. It's
Speaker 4: it's really sad.
Speaker 3: I think it's indicative too, of something that's changing. I'd
Speaker 3: like to get you know, your your opinions on this.
Speaker 3: It feels like we're at the cusp of a of
Speaker 3: a baton pass in a big way from these you know,
Speaker 3: we saw it happen with legacy media, and then the
Speaker 3: baton was passed to like these big talking heads in
Speaker 3: alternative media spaces, and now even still because the world
Speaker 3: has disseminated into such a level of madness that the
Speaker 3: mainstream media narrative is certainly not cutting it, and even
Speaker 3: alternative media's narrative isn't cutting it, or at least the
Speaker 3: ones that we had previously, And so because all.
Speaker 5: Of them are swayed, that alternative media is it's but
Speaker 5: they're very open about it, right, Like, for instance, on
Speaker 5: this show, I would consider us alternative media in whatever.
Speaker 5: We have a conservative leaning, but we're very open about that.
Speaker 5: We're not die hard Trumpsters. We don't call him the
Speaker 5: Savior by any means. But like, when somebody listens to
Speaker 5: this show, they already know what they're getting. And so
Speaker 5: like I understand why people looking at the mainstream we
Speaker 5: could call that all lie right out right, The baton
Speaker 5: gets passed to Rogan, the baton gets passed to I
Speaker 5: mean in a certain regard, Tempoole, in a certain regard
Speaker 5: Russell Bray and all these people that are like and
Speaker 5: not even just conservative. There's liberal talking heads on the
Speaker 5: other side of this, that alternative media, and they're just
Speaker 5: echo chambering it in and of themselves, right, and then
Speaker 5: there's like us, who are this weird gray area where
Speaker 5: we kind of fuck with everybody, but we also don't
Speaker 5: fuck with anybody.
Speaker 3: And the answer to anybody, which is I think more
Speaker 3: important because it allows you to pass that through a
Speaker 3: filter of like whatever your genuine opinion is, instead of
Speaker 3: manicaeving to go through like business acumen and whether or
Speaker 3: not this is going to hurt your bottom line.
Speaker 1: You just pass it through the filter of is this
Speaker 1: something that I find interesting or believe this.
Speaker 4: Is the thing that's important too, that creators that are
Speaker 4: our size needs to realize. You might think that you're
Speaker 4: like a smaller account, but you're a moving culture on
Speaker 4: a weird level. And I've done it multiple times now.
Speaker 4: It's to the point where he has to address you
Speaker 4: like I'm not big, Like obviously I'm not Timpool big.
Speaker 4: Doesn't make any sense, but the conversation and then they
Speaker 4: look at who's leading it and they're like, oh, this
Speaker 4: guy's been there. They have to address it. That's why
Speaker 4: he blamed me for the anti war movement. I was
Speaker 4: in the Libertarian Party. And then I'm like, you guys
Speaker 4: are gay. Like after a while, I'm like, you guys
Speaker 4: are really fucking gay and I think you're wrong, and
Speaker 4: me saying that, and a couple other people shot that
Speaker 4: entire party in the foot to the point where they
Speaker 4: nominated a sodomite and a cop, and it's like, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: they lost their shit. It had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 4: All I did was say, like, you're making the wrong
Speaker 4: decisions here. If you want to lead to a better future,
Speaker 4: you're not. You're being ideological, you're not being living in reality.
Speaker 3: But that's a tell too, right, the fact that he
Speaker 3: said that to you top it's like he believes that.
Speaker 3: He believes that you and your boys hurt the anti
Speaker 3: war movement, which is hilarious because it's essentially giving you
Speaker 3: a disproportionate amount of power in this conversation.
Speaker 1: So when you're talking about where's.
Speaker 4: Are, for instance, the Libertarian Party, which I guess I
Speaker 4: was goofy in twenty eighteen, they were like, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: state's rights and we need to respect that. And some
Speaker 4: people were saying shit like well, the vaccine is a
Speaker 4: you know, it's a choice, it's a person. It was
Speaker 4: never a choice. It was it was I don't want
Speaker 4: to get you guys, are you on anywhere you can
Speaker 4: get suspended.
Speaker 1: Fuck no, big dog, sing it, sing it baby.
Speaker 4: It was. It was never a choice. It was presented like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's a choice, but I lived in New York and
Speaker 4: it was a choice. But you couldn't do this, this
Speaker 4: or that. I couldn't I couldn't go to the store,
Speaker 4: I couldn't go to events. And at some point my
Speaker 4: job was going to fire me because they were like,
Speaker 4: you can't come to the here if you're not that.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even tell them my status. They're like, are
Speaker 4: you vaccinated? Said maybe, and so like they had me
Speaker 4: doing tests every week. It was but it wasn't a choice.
Speaker 5: But that's New York though, right you were up there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in New York.
Speaker 5: So I'll say this. I can't speak for the whole country,
Speaker 5: but my section of Louisiana. The CEO of the company
Speaker 5: I worked for at the time was kind of toying
Speaker 5: around with the idea of forcing everyone to get vexed.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't because he was buying into the narrative.
Speaker 5: At the time, nobody knew fuck or shit about what's
Speaker 5: actually going on. We didn't know if this was the
Speaker 5: next Spanish flu or if this was just a flu
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it was an idea.
Speaker 5: Pretty much three quarters of his facility told him, if
Speaker 5: you do that, you will not have a facility, like
Speaker 5: we will take this bitch down brick by brick and
Speaker 5: carry it with us out the door. Fuck you right,
Speaker 5: So and he listened because he's a good dude. And
Speaker 5: again it wasn't like he was trying to be that guy.
Speaker 5: But no, but he's just exploring it.
Speaker 3: Right, Like at the time where everything's so uncertain, the
Speaker 3: government is pressuring you all this different shit is happening.
Speaker 3: It's like, it's reasonable to explore it, but if you
Speaker 3: think it all the way through, you have to stand online,
Speaker 3: which is to say, here's not going to invade these
Speaker 3: people's rights.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: The point is that they were They were saying this,
Speaker 4: and then libertarians would defend them. Goofy like Reasoned magazine
Speaker 4: and the Cato Institute. These people and very serious people
Speaker 4: doctors and shit, they're arguing with me. This is two years,
Speaker 4: four years ago, and they're like, oh, there's actually a choice.
Speaker 1: There was no choice.
Speaker 4: It was it was a like the mafia kind of
Speaker 4: coming to you and like forcing you, like, yeah, you're
Speaker 4: not I'm not for going to.
Speaker 1: Make you an offer that you are unable to refuse,
Speaker 1: right what you want?
Speaker 3: Yeah, were coerced, coerced with pressures that are, you know,
Speaker 3: surrounding the fundamental aspects of your life, your ability to travel,
Speaker 3: your ability to make money, right, the most fundamental aspects
Speaker 3: of being able to carve a living out.
Speaker 1: Those are the things that it hinges on. So no,
Speaker 1: technically you can whatever.
Speaker 3: You can exist like a pariah in your home and
Speaker 3: never go out again and hopefully collect some unemployment checks
Speaker 3: or some COVID checks, whatever the hell's going on there,
Speaker 3: but you can't partake in civilized society.
Speaker 4: And here's the reason. The reasoning for that for the
Speaker 4: libertarians was like, what do you want to do? Make
Speaker 4: a law? Were we out like ban people from doing that?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, so there's so against government that they're
Speaker 4: against making a law that bans government from each like
Speaker 4: an animal home. So I'm like, you guys are fucking clowns.
Speaker 4: And then I started disassembling you piece by piece with comedy,
Speaker 4: and it's apparently it's almost impossible for you to like
Speaker 4: fight this because we were at the point David actually
Speaker 4: came to perform with Tower Gang. The Libertarian Party of
Speaker 4: Georgia invited us to roast the They did a political
Speaker 4: debate for who would be the presidential nominee, and then
Speaker 4: right after we went and we went on, it's like,
Speaker 4: you guys can't there's nothing you can do. This party struggling, failing,
Speaker 4: And I guess yeah, in that sense, I did take
Speaker 4: down the anti war movement with a fucking comedy show.
Speaker 1: But you deserved it.
Speaker 5: The QAnon community had this same thing a couple of
Speaker 5: years back, right. A couple of them found a true
Speaker 5: pedophilic rings that were going on, and they reported to
Speaker 5: the local police that arrested these people. It wasn't like
Speaker 5: political leads at the top. I forget what the situation was,
Speaker 5: but they were. They found some things, yo, for real,
Speaker 5: They brought it forward and they were ostracized by the
Speaker 5: q Andon community. I can't believe you became a boot liquor.
Speaker 5: You reached down to the cops. So it's like, Bro,
Speaker 5: can you actually pull your head from your ass for
Speaker 5: two seconds and realize that they just helped save children.
Speaker 5: You're mad because they went through the law.
Speaker 1: Fuck off, dude.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of these people are also experiencing
Speaker 3: this downswing because of their inability. It's like we put
Speaker 3: our trust in alternative media. To some extent, it was
Speaker 3: better placed there than it was within mainstream media. But
Speaker 3: during the whole COVID debacle, we saw all these people
Speaker 3: that were looking to as the ones wh were supposed
Speaker 3: to be outspoken against all this shit. They kept fumbling
Speaker 3: the ball. They were pussy footing, they were too soft
Speaker 3: and not didn't want to jump to conclusions. Meanwhile, the
Speaker 3: entire country, the world was getting locked down and people
Speaker 3: were getting you know, coerced experimental inoculations, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's like I look to Joe Rogan and it was
Speaker 3: just too slow, it was too slight. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that that is indicative of him being a bad guy,
Speaker 3: but it was like I was catching things in real
Speaker 3: time that he was talking about months down the line.
Speaker 4: I knew about hydroxychloroquin as. I was in the hospital
Speaker 4: with my son and it was like March, so, March
Speaker 4: twenty fifth, twenty twenty, I'm in the hospital. I'm looking
Speaker 4: up like possible solutions for this because the world had
Speaker 4: just shut down, right, yeah, And they didn't figure that
Speaker 4: shit out. It didn't become a thing until like two
Speaker 4: months later, where it's like.
Speaker 3: To talk about implementation on a political or a medical
Speaker 3: level is way downstream from the conversation. The conversation isn't
Speaker 3: even being had until like too little, too late.
Speaker 5: So, you know what, I think Rogan does that strategically
Speaker 5: because he's aware of how big he is, and he
Speaker 5: knows that if he says some off the wall shit
Speaker 5: that he did for himself personally, there's millions of people
Speaker 5: that will follow suit and if that plays out bad,
Speaker 5: he could be liable and they So I think that
Speaker 5: he plays it kind of close to the chest and
Speaker 5: he will talk about it later on when things fine.
Speaker 5: Well that's the way to protect his ass, I guess.
Speaker 3: And then the problem with that is we're in a
Speaker 3: time where the conversation matters more dramatically than it ever has.
Speaker 3: So fuck these people because if they're not gonna have it,
Speaker 3: then somebody else needs to have it. So if Tim
Speaker 3: Poole's not gonna have it when it fucking matters, then
Speaker 3: fuck Tim Poole. If Joe Rogan's not gonna have it
Speaker 3: when it matters, then fuck Joe Rogan. And I'm saying
Speaker 3: you gotta hate these guys.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, Jordan Peterson, you know it's I name
Speaker 4: myself top Lobster from the first chapter of his book.
Speaker 4: But if he's gonna go and say, hey, Trude, doah,
Speaker 4: I took your damn vaccine and now give me back
Speaker 4: my rights, is like, you're the guy who also said
Speaker 4: don't bargain with terrorists, like that was a whole part
Speaker 4: of your book, don't don't give them an inch, And
Speaker 4: here you are doing that. So it's like, all right,
Speaker 4: next shooter, You're gone. Next person up. This is why,
Speaker 4: I guess is what got me into this weird conspiracy space.
Speaker 4: And it sounds like it it's political, right, it comes
Speaker 4: from this weird, weird gay political yeah uh birth, but
Speaker 4: you kind of have to eventually end up where we're
Speaker 4: at now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: People find the truth from different ways. Sometimes it's politically based.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I know veterans that came back from the war
Speaker 5: and that's what started their conspiracy slash truth or mindset
Speaker 5: was because they saw at firsthand of what bullshit was right.
Speaker 5: And not always guys in the front lines kicking doors.
Speaker 5: I mean, like the fucking uh, the legal and logistics
Speaker 5: guys are the dudes that were moving stacks of cash
Speaker 5: from Saddam's palace to over here. Wait, why did he
Speaker 5: have fifty thousand pallets of US dollars just on? It
Speaker 5: was stuff like that that kind of started people's conversations.
Speaker 5: Then the vaccine was another one, then the fucking election
Speaker 5: being racked. So it's like people come to it sometimes
Speaker 5: from political, sometimes from medical, sometimes personal experiences. But it
Speaker 5: gets to a point and like you said, we get
Speaker 5: to a point where we're undeniable. Like you may not
Speaker 5: like us, you may you may hate the shit we
Speaker 5: talk about, but you can't deny what the fuck we're
Speaker 5: doing here.
Speaker 3: Right, And I think that's why we're finding the success
Speaker 3: that we are finding. But like I said, man, it's
Speaker 3: happening so fast. You just named a few things. The
Speaker 3: news cycle is turning over so fast. We cannot risk
Speaker 3: waiting to have these conversations. We can't risk or we
Speaker 3: can't wait until it's safe, when it's good for us
Speaker 3: to have these kind Let me tell you you have
Speaker 3: to have these conversations while they're dangerous.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you a quick story. So our boy Clint
Speaker 4: Liberty lockdown and he's like big name the political space
Speaker 4: he got a Pfizer whistle blow whistleblower about maybe last year,
Speaker 4: pretty much when we first started the show in Nephlum
Speaker 4: des Squad, Yeah, and he has her on and she's
Speaker 4: talking about how basically they knew that it would have
Speaker 4: bad side effects and yahda yah and there's like paperwork
Speaker 4: to prove that they knew beforehand but still went through
Speaker 4: and push it through anyway. And it's a thirty minute interview.
Speaker 4: Go back there and watch it. He goes, now, in
Speaker 4: your opinion, why do you think these companies are doing this?
Speaker 4: And she just goes like this, Clint, are you aware
Speaker 4: of the Nephilum? And he almost falls out of his
Speaker 4: seat because he's calling us retarded and crazy for like,
Speaker 4: you know, I was talking about the Nephelin probably for
Speaker 4: like six or seven months before we even started the show.
Speaker 4: And he's just like writing me off as Yeah, you're
Speaker 4: you're a week retard, you're conspiracy theorist. And this lady
Speaker 4: with all these you know, credentials comes on his show
Speaker 4: and she's breaking down all the freaking numbers of this virus.
Speaker 3: My favorite moment of that show, so the back and
Speaker 3: just watching his eyes when when she says that, because
Speaker 3: it's like, it's not like his eyes popped open, but
Speaker 3: you could just read that behind them, he's thinking of
Speaker 3: top he's thinking of Nephelin desk squad, and he's like,
Speaker 3: are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2: So she was basically saying that, like the the vaccine
Speaker 2: companies were essentially playing the roles of.
Speaker 3: The fallen angel more or less, what she was saying
Speaker 3: was that the implications of this are spiritual, and she
Speaker 3: thinks that there's genetic implications to the vaccination.
Speaker 1: And when you start to ask, well, what of what variety?
Speaker 1: Well that was her answer.
Speaker 3: Then is like first she asked him if he was religious,
Speaker 3: and he said sort of a agnostic, and then she said, well,
Speaker 3: let me tell you something about the nephilim. And so
Speaker 3: it was she touched on it, and you could tell
Speaker 3: she's a Pfizer whistleblower. This is an employee from Pfizer.
Speaker 3: She has to maintain some level of of you know,
Speaker 3: intellectual integrity, so she doesn't go down that pipe too far.
Speaker 3: But she did drop that bomb on his lap. This
Speaker 3: this thing that we're moving towards, we're talking about how
Speaker 3: the new cycles happening so fast you have to talk
Speaker 3: about these things while they're dangerous. There's a guy. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to get into it too much because we
Speaker 3: beat Alad this guy Segway time. I'm not gonna beat
Speaker 3: it to death too badly because we have dragged this
Speaker 3: body through the streets on our show, on Sam Tripley's show.
Speaker 3: But there is a gentleman named Cliff High and long
Speaker 3: story short, there everybody have a drink.
Speaker 1: Long story short.
Speaker 3: He creates a webbot that scrapes data off the Internet
Speaker 3: and he uses that data to make predictions.
Speaker 4: Hold on, are you guys aware of this?
Speaker 5: I don't know what he does.
Speaker 2: Well, he said that the Joe Rogan Donald Trump was
Speaker 2: the lynchpin towards making this weird future possible.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a great way to put it. That's a
Speaker 3: great abridged version of it. So you know this does happen.
Speaker 3: But one of the things that's in his data set
Speaker 3: that he's predicting is that we're on the cusp of
Speaker 3: a time where legacy media fully dies. And then what
Speaker 3: ends up happening is there are all these would be
Speaker 3: sponsors and investors who are still looking to control the narrative.
Speaker 3: They're going to be looking at us and during this time,
Speaker 3: a lot of us this is you know, all allegedly
Speaker 3: take it with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: A lot of his predictions don't come true, although some
Speaker 1: of them do.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not laughing at the prediction, POD laugh at
Speaker 5: the thought of like a Fizer coming and knocking on
Speaker 5: our door to be like, listen, I know what you've
Speaker 5: been saying, but I have a really large check and
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm picturing my response.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, yes about the number. What's the number?
Speaker 1: The number is so that I could tell everybody what
Speaker 1: number I turned down.
Speaker 3: Because what is beautiful is that we're in a sort
Speaker 3: of a this really amazing era where as a content
Speaker 3: creator you can make a tremendou amount of money. You
Speaker 3: don't need these people at all. But he's saying that
Speaker 3: a lot of us are going to get co opted
Speaker 3: during this time. And I think that if you look
Speaker 3: at the way people are treating big shows like you know,
Speaker 3: Tim Cast, Irl of course, any of the actual legacy
Speaker 3: media company CNN, Fox and all this other stuff, you
Speaker 3: can imagine those big ones would die off and then
Speaker 3: there would be the upper echelon of alternative media your
Speaker 3: Tim's and what have you.
Speaker 1: And those people I guess are being bought off right now.
Speaker 4: Well they're dying. It's because they've been. I don't know
Speaker 4: if they've been bought or if they've been here's the thing,
Speaker 4: And I'll be fair to Tim because I went to
Speaker 4: his place and what. I'm a business guy, so when
Speaker 4: I saw what he's doing, I really respect it. And
Speaker 4: I know a lot of his employees. They're great people.
Speaker 4: But when you're running a business and you have employees
Speaker 4: that you've got to pay, that could be enough for
Speaker 4: you know, it's not like, oh, he's taking all this
Speaker 4: money and it's like oh, but it could be enough
Speaker 4: for YouTube to just their censors to be like, hey, listen,
Speaker 4: you're not going to say this and that, because if
Speaker 4: you do, then we're going to cut your revenue and
Speaker 4: you have to fire half these people without YouTube revenue.
Speaker 1: And you know what just is hugely.
Speaker 3: Scary to them if you are some sort of like
Speaker 3: remnant of the status quo and you're trying to maintain
Speaker 3: control over the narrative and so you're looking to alternative
Speaker 3: media sources and you're going I have the money to
Speaker 3: put these people on and control them, and then you
Speaker 3: look over to guys like us, and we're throwing Brohemian
Speaker 3: Grove without anybody. We're doing big numbers without anybody. We're
Speaker 3: doing you know, six shows a week without any sort
Speaker 3: of backing. We're getting all these opportunities. We don't need
Speaker 3: this apparatus that seemingly the previously existing model did need.
Speaker 1: We don't need that anymore. So, honestly, I think that as.
Speaker 3: Funny as it is, like Brohemian Grover up there, we're
Speaker 3: talking about adrenachrome and all this fun stuff, and people
Speaker 3: are wearing cloaks and it's got a comedy bent to it.
Speaker 3: That is real culture. That is the beginning of cold movements.
Speaker 3: That is not indicative to doing business if you are
Speaker 3: of the old dude.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a picture of Tim Cast and he
Speaker 4: did a live event with Dave Smith, who's like, I mean,
Speaker 4: half a million follows on Twitter.
Speaker 5: I love Dave Smith. Again, don't like every single thing
Speaker 5: he ever says, but as far as like shutting down
Speaker 5: a loud mouth, let Dave Smith cook, you know the best.
Speaker 4: He's the best at it. I know Dave personally. I
Speaker 4: used to work for him, work with him and.
Speaker 5: He's been able to hang with. I feel like he'd
Speaker 5: be a cool dude to hang with.
Speaker 4: He's he's very like low key chill now because he's
Speaker 4: got like a kid. But he'll hang with you a
Speaker 4: little bit. He's not he's not gonna be out late.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Dave is great. And uh, you know Legion
Speaker 4: to skanks guys like, yes, Lewis is Lewis is the
Speaker 4: homie I used to I've heard he.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, he likes to party. I'm yeah, he'll
Speaker 5: if he's going to hang with If I'm rolling with him,
Speaker 5: I'm understanding, like we may get arrested tonight, and like
Speaker 5: that's okay.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna fight.
Speaker 4: You're gonna fight an nouv driver. At the very least.
Speaker 4: Saying about Dave, you were saying how he went with Tim. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he did an event with Tim, and it's like no
Speaker 4: one's in the audience. They had like forty people of
Speaker 4: this gend people just sitting there, And I'm like, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: How does that.
Speaker 5: There's this whole wave going on as well, where even
Speaker 5: if someone is shown full fledge that like whatever you've
Speaker 5: been saying is incorrect, and I don't mean disrespectfully, not
Speaker 5: even skull dragging, like legitimately with facts and logic and things.
Speaker 5: The things you have been saying for years is incorrect,
Speaker 5: and it's time for you to acknowledge that and like
Speaker 5: not pack it up and quit your job, but maybe
Speaker 5: shift gears a bit, maybe enhance some things. Did y'all
Speaker 5: hear about the the art Antarctic journey that was just taken.
Speaker 5: I didn't hear about that, you know, the entire scope
Speaker 5: of this. A pastor paid thirty five thousand dollars. For
Speaker 5: some reason, people think, well, you just can't go to
Speaker 5: an article. Yeah you can, You actually can't. There's never
Speaker 5: been anything against that. You can't go to certain areas
Speaker 5: because it's really fucking dangerous as a giant floating glacier
Speaker 5: and they don't want you to walking out and dying, right,
Speaker 5: But like you can you can go to Antarctica. You
Speaker 5: really can't. And so this pastor did. He bought a
Speaker 5: ship and he brought half of them were round earthers,
Speaker 5: half of them were flat earthers, and they're.
Speaker 4: On a Austin Witz. It's he's did reply to me,
Speaker 4: he might come on the show. He's one of the
Speaker 4: people that went down he's a flat earth or that
Speaker 4: saw it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, and so so this is my question to them.
Speaker 5: There was a couple of them that went that acknowledged that,
Speaker 5: like this, all right, I'm wrong, Like this is this
Speaker 5: is a flat I thought it was flat. This can't
Speaker 5: happen on a flat plane. So I don't know what
Speaker 5: to call it. And they weren't confirming it's round, but
Speaker 5: they were at least understanding that it's not flat and
Speaker 5: that they were wrong.
Speaker 1: No it I don't know they correct.
Speaker 2: The model of the flat earth that they thought it
Speaker 2: was doesn't calculate with the twenty four hour son.
Speaker 5: That's my point. And so instead of acknowledging, hey, maybe
Speaker 5: I'm wrong because this entire thing is stupid, they're like,
Speaker 5: we just have to build a different model that makes
Speaker 5: this work. Like bro, y'all don't understand how many an
Speaker 5: extra hoops you're jumping through Okham's razor on this bitch,
Speaker 5: Like fuck.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people on there that are
Speaker 2: actually going after that guy.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the guy's name, but went.
Speaker 3: It's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of people going after him,
Speaker 2: like all of the hardcore, die hard flat earthers are
Speaker 2: fucking common for his head and they're like, hold on,
Speaker 2: Like the video didn't make sense. There was like weird
Speaker 2: shadows that seemed like they were you know, editing uh together.
Speaker 3: Picture that I saw where all the shadows of the
Speaker 3: equipment were casted in different directions of that, I'm retarded,
Speaker 3: and I don't know that's perspective.
Speaker 4: That's like, yeah, that's fairly simple to if the sun
Speaker 4: is here and and you're like looking at it's gonna
Speaker 4: cast it, that's that's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I thought that all proof.
Speaker 5: They're all wearing these crazy sunglasses, bright as fuck, the
Speaker 5: snow is reflec Yeah, there are so many things. But
Speaker 5: even still, we're talking about a professional, a group of
Speaker 5: professional flat earthers that were brought there. It's not like
Speaker 5: they found a guy that was kind of on the
Speaker 5: fence about it. These dudes have made their money off
Speaker 5: of this. For them to say that this is no
Speaker 5: longer the case and for them to turn on I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 5: y'all could just acknowledge that you're wrong. Like so at
Speaker 5: one point the world blow, I believe the moon was
Speaker 5: made of cheese, and then they acknowledged it was wrong.
Speaker 5: It's okay, man, I.
Speaker 4: Think though, So here's where I'm at with it. I
Speaker 4: didn't I wouldn't say I was a flat earther before,
Speaker 4: but I was just like, I don't know, maybe, but
Speaker 4: I think for sure, they're lying about the shape of
Speaker 4: the Earth, They're lying about problems, They're lying about everything.
Speaker 5: Now it's like lying about a lot. We know that
Speaker 5: the math don't math, and like, I am grateful for
Speaker 5: the flat earth community for blowing the lid off with
Speaker 5: so many other conspiracies like mad respect to it, but
Speaker 5: one plus one does not equal three, no matter which
Speaker 5: angle you're looking at it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: So you know what the problem is here. It's it's
Speaker 3: the same thing as like the Billy Carson thing, right,
Speaker 3: and so many of the other people.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: The culture is changing in such a way it's become
Speaker 3: very obvious that these conspiracies deserve more credence than we've
Speaker 3: been willing to give them. Now now I've been saying
Speaker 3: this two people like Dave Smith, to people like Clint Russell,
Speaker 3: I've been saying, if you don't have this is just
Speaker 3: one anecdotal aspect of it. If you don't have an
Speaker 3: opinion on aliens ets, whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 3: You've got a real problem because you never gave this
Speaker 3: thing any credence, And soon the government is going to
Speaker 3: tell you a narrative and you're gonna have to enjoy
Speaker 3: that before you can get your shit together and do
Speaker 3: enough research to catch up. There are people that have
Speaker 3: dedicated all of their time to one thing and now
Speaker 3: cannot pivot. So when they're shown something that's you know,
Speaker 3: flies in the face of that, Like let's say Billy
Speaker 3: Carson when he gets exposed for misrepresenting ancient texts, for
Speaker 3: misquoting them, for flat out lying to some out whatever
Speaker 3: they say, all these different things. The problem is you
Speaker 3: pitched yourself as an expert. You pitch yourself as Onunaki daddy,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And now the.
Speaker 5: Problem is almost expert on ancient scrolls, text and tablets.
Speaker 3: That was exactly over Honestly, the.
Speaker 4: We've been David, We've been in the right place at
Speaker 4: the right time for so like just for about everything.
Speaker 4: Because we went on Luke Rakowski Show. Yeah, this is
Speaker 4: when Clinton was still a co host on it. And
Speaker 4: they do this thing at the end where they're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: just leave a random question for the next person that's coming,
Speaker 4: and we might have asked who it is, or I
Speaker 4: think we did, and they were like, oh, Billy Carson,
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know this black I know, Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So our question to the next guest was, why do
Speaker 4: demon why do aliens flee?
Speaker 3: I said, all is the aliens, cryptids and demonic encounters.
Speaker 3: Why do they all flee at the name of Jesus Christ?
Speaker 5: No idea?
Speaker 4: What this dude's about?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the random question. Y'all asked the Billy Carson.
Speaker 5: Don't talk about a ten out of ten Hail Mary.
Speaker 3: You know, but this is a blindfolded Let's let Jacob
Speaker 3: and Jonathan's guests give me a couple of guesses.
Speaker 1: What you what do you think?
Speaker 5: He said, John, I have my own opinion, but it's
Speaker 5: gonna sound like I'm being shitty towards him. Jonathan, what
Speaker 5: do you think Billy's thought?
Speaker 3: That's what we were doing here?
Speaker 1: What do I think that?
Speaker 2: Billy Carson's response to that question was yes, I did.
Speaker 2: He probably say that you believe in the name of Jesus.
Speaker 2: You believe that in the Holy power of Jesus so
Speaker 2: much that essentially it emulates you know that, uh, basically
Speaker 2: the antithesis to fear, right, Like, so whenever you have
Speaker 2: like a shitload of fear, some people will create demonic entities.
Speaker 2: And if you say the name of Jesus, maybe it's
Speaker 2: the absolute opposite of that, and that's what drives it
Speaker 2: away more.
Speaker 5: I can also see him bringing up Inci and in
Speaker 5: Lil for no fucking reason that no one asked for.
Speaker 5: I could see him bringing in some Anonachi as well.
Speaker 5: And how that's or what we're seeing is not what
Speaker 5: you're seeing, it's looking at something else is presenting itself.
Speaker 5: I could see all that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it was more or less.
Speaker 3: That idea of like creating an agrigor and that we
Speaker 3: as human beings are so spiritually powerful that we can
Speaker 3: create this like defense mechanism and and it'll protect us
Speaker 3: from these things that are real but are not what
Speaker 3: we think they are, which is hilarious because I look
Speaker 3: at that and they go, it is real, but not
Speaker 3: what you think they are.
Speaker 1: But just funny because that's actually what I believe too.
Speaker 3: As far as this issue with that is, and I
Speaker 3: don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's it's it's
Speaker 3: the problem is when you're pitching yourself as an expert
Speaker 3: and you've built an entire career and you're essentially like
Speaker 3: some sort of millionaire off the back of this kind
Speaker 3: of data, instead of tempering it with this is what
Speaker 3: the data suggests to me, although I'm not too sure,
Speaker 3: because how could you be too sure? So my thing
Speaker 3: to that is right in the Bible, it says Jesus
Speaker 3: Christ gives you the authority to tread on serpents of
Speaker 3: scorpions through his name. He gives us the it's a
Speaker 3: very it's a very simple explanation. He came, he died
Speaker 3: for our sins. He he made it so that he
Speaker 3: is the way to the Father. But he also gave
Speaker 3: us the ability to tread on this dark spiritual realm
Speaker 3: and the the It almost seems like mental gymnastics in
Speaker 3: the other direction.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean to have to like triple double.
Speaker 3: Backflip and say that we're creating this this aggrigor when
Speaker 3: there's so much he was so much evidence for the
Speaker 3: guy existing.
Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5: If he would have presented himself like this is my
Speaker 5: opinion of it now, I don't know, but I think
Speaker 5: dot run off, you know, go off on it. If
Speaker 5: you're going to present yourself as some sort of like
Speaker 5: learned expert who has no credentials by your name other
Speaker 5: than a few small degrees that have nothing to do
Speaker 5: with anything that also can't really be verified. That's like
Speaker 5: your boy, uh, what's his name, Terrence Howard coming on
Speaker 5: saying he had a doctorate from that college of something.
Speaker 5: If you go to that college, they don't offer a
Speaker 5: doctorate program in that field. So it's like it's gooobe
Speaker 5: in behavior, it's exact behavior. No Kube blessed me onto
Speaker 5: his name.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: I'm not even saying that I hate those ideas or anything.
Speaker 3: And I think within so many different belief systems there
Speaker 3: are elements of truth or else you couldn't build something
Speaker 3: compelling off of them. The foundation needs to have some
Speaker 3: elements of truth in order for re to all stick
Speaker 3: together and make something compelling that's going to draw people in.
Speaker 3: But it's just when you when you don't temper these
Speaker 3: things with I'm not sure, I'm not positive. It's like,
Speaker 3: how could you know you were not there?
Speaker 4: The problem with with his explanation really is that he
Speaker 4: what he said was a lot of words to describe
Speaker 4: what Jonathan just just expressed. But what he what it
Speaker 4: felt like he said was Jesus is a faggot. That's
Speaker 4: what I thought, he told me. And I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't like your vibe on it this entire episode.
Speaker 4: That's what you've been vibing at, saying that he's either
Speaker 4: fake or didn't do anything. And it's like, but that's
Speaker 4: what I believe. And now I understand that that's this
Speaker 4: is what you believe. But now I'm gonna get real
Speaker 4: disrespectful with it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that I might show up at your house
Speaker 5: with a slap lawsuit take it out.
Speaker 4: Well, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Is that.
Speaker 2: That's the problem with Billy Carson, though, is that he
Speaker 2: kind of got popular by skull dragging, or at least
Speaker 2: his own version of skull dragging Christianity, Like that's what
Speaker 2: motivated him. Was too, I'm going to bring up all
Speaker 2: this stuff and this will shut the Christians up finally.
Speaker 2: And you can't go at it from that way and
Speaker 2: say that you're a spiritual person. You can't go at
Speaker 2: it from that way and say that you're some kind
Speaker 2: of expert, especially whenever you're quoting and I love this book.
Speaker 2: I love this book that I'm about to mention, But
Speaker 2: you can't quote things from the Emerald Tablets of thoth By.
Speaker 2: It's literally a channeled message. Okay, so we don't even
Speaker 2: have the tablets, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like because they don't exactly well, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: let's say that they hypothetically did exist. If they were
Speaker 3: sitting somewhere and they were being studied by language experts
Speaker 3: and things like that, and they had a physical tablet,
Speaker 3: I would go, this is very interesting. Doesn't mean that
Speaker 3: you have to believe it one hundred percent, but here
Speaker 3: is a chunk of history that is incredibly compelling.
Speaker 1: How blessed are we to have this thing?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But that's not what's happening.
Speaker 3: This is secondhand information from a guy who claims to
Speaker 3: have seen them or whatever, and they're not anywhere in
Speaker 3: any kind of collection or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's a huge issue to be quoting that.
Speaker 5: Well, Christians without an opponent, Well, he's trying to drag
Speaker 5: things and say from the Sinai Bible. You're not even
Speaker 5: saying it right, That's not even how it's called you're
Speaker 5: the only one calling it the Sinai Bible or when
Speaker 5: he would do the same thing with the Quran or
Speaker 5: the same thing with the Torah. You're quoting things that
Speaker 5: you know nothing about, and you're acting like you're winning
Speaker 5: because you're fighting with no opponent. You are fancy shadow boxing,
Speaker 5: and if you ever step to a you're a real one.
Speaker 5: This would happen, which.
Speaker 3: Is exactly which is exactly what happened. Wesley dragged him,
Speaker 3: and there's there is certain.
Speaker 2: I want to say that that Maurice Doriel, he was
Speaker 2: allegedly remote viewing, and that is something that has been
Speaker 2: done within the CIA. So you know, we've seen the
Speaker 2: the articles.
Speaker 1: About papers on it the other day, didn't They just
Speaker 1: about how.
Speaker 2: They were remote viewing Mars and they saw large people
Speaker 2: and pyramids and stuff like that. And look, that's not
Speaker 2: to say that it's it's not to say that it's
Speaker 2: a fiction. It's just that remote viewing isn't generally accepted
Speaker 2: by the public because the only way to confirm it
Speaker 2: is to confirm it.
Speaker 3: And if you're a trust me bro more or less
Speaker 3: right like anybody in your point, Jonathan, I'm sorry to
Speaker 3: cut you off, but I talked about Cliff Hi before
Speaker 3: Cliff High recruited the the help of a CIA employed
Speaker 3: remote viewer.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: So to your point, Jonathan, it's it's not something that
Speaker 3: I totally dismissed. I think there's some to it, but
Speaker 3: it's it's it's hard to prove well.
Speaker 2: And the idea of in Maurice Doriel, you know, the
Speaker 2: the Atlantean or what is it called the emerald Tablets
Speaker 2: of the Atlantean. Allegedly he got that information and he
Speaker 2: said that these emerald tablets that nobody can get their
Speaker 2: hands on the reason why nobody can get their hands
Speaker 2: on them is because they are underneath the Pyramids of Giza,
Speaker 2: and that if you were to dig up under there,
Speaker 2: or maybe there's some kind of hidden tomb or hidden
Speaker 2: pathway to be able to get to these things. That's
Speaker 2: allegedly where he remote viewed them, and allegedly that's how
Speaker 2: he would He was able to channel or at least
Speaker 2: read somehow these emerald tablets and stuff like that, which
Speaker 2: is cool, it's it's it's cool, but whenever you you
Speaker 2: can't then relate that to archaeology, like these are two different.
Speaker 5: Realms, right, Well, he's going by doctor Doriel, which is
Speaker 5: a pseudonym that's not even his real name. Doriel is
Speaker 5: not his last name. Uh. And then you also find
Speaker 5: out that most of his key leaders of the cult
Speaker 5: he started and his ex wife have all come forward
Speaker 5: and said he's full of shit and that all of
Speaker 5: this was based in nothing. He doesn't even know what
Speaker 5: remote viewing actually is.
Speaker 3: Look, the problem is is like, Okay, in the beginning
Speaker 3: of our show, we have a quote from David Ike
Speaker 3: that please, I enjoyed David Ike. But the problem is
Speaker 3: he has admitted that a lot of his information comes
Speaker 3: from this moment where he had what almost resembled like
Speaker 3: a seizure or a stroke. But he essentially is channeling
Speaker 3: what he called what he said self identified as ascended
Speaker 3: Atlantean masters. Now, I'm not saying that you didn't have
Speaker 3: an experience with something dog That is not at all
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, how do you
Speaker 3: trust I think he one hundred percent did. How do
Speaker 3: you trust that these things are what they.
Speaker 1: Say they are? And further, there's hold on wait top.
Speaker 3: I just want to say, through our research, it looks
Speaker 3: to me like Atlantis would have been this highly advanced
Speaker 3: but highly corrupt civilization that was destroyed in the floods,
Speaker 3: if there's any chance of that being a reality, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a lot of you know, ideas that
Speaker 3: you can go into, and but it looks like this
Speaker 3: was the heightest ofization, the height of nephelm shit. So
Speaker 3: you mean to tell me that there's a chance that
Speaker 3: you're channeling entities from an you know, a place that
Speaker 3: was destroyed in the floods that might have been the
Speaker 3: home to all kinds of creatures and hybrids and Nephlum,
Speaker 3: the offspring of the fall, all these different things, and
Speaker 3: you're telling me that you trust it.
Speaker 1: That's the only problem.
Speaker 3: And the thing about human beings is when something profoundly
Speaker 3: spiritual happens to us, we are often amazed and don't
Speaker 3: think at all to question this thing because it's speaking
Speaker 3: telepathically in my head. You know, it was this pivotal
Speaker 3: moment in my life that forever changed me. I don't
Speaker 3: want to go back and question the nature of this
Speaker 3: core moment that forever sent me in this direction. So
Speaker 3: I just, you know, maybe he is channeling entities. How
Speaker 3: the hell do you know they're not lying dog. I
Speaker 3: believe you you talk to something, Yes, but did that
Speaker 3: something deceive you? And you don't want to talk about
Speaker 3: that idea. I don't think I likes to talk about
Speaker 3: that idea whether or not he was deceived by these things.
Speaker 2: And it's often up to the interpreter too, Like somebody
Speaker 2: can receive some kind of channeled or have some kind
Speaker 2: of spiritual experience or whatever, but it's hard to really
Speaker 2: interpret things that are going into your head. You're thinking,
Speaker 2: are they my thoughts? Is this other being's thoughts? And
Speaker 2: now you're kind of mixing them up and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: People will talk to God whenever they pray at night.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times, dude. There was
Speaker 2: this one time we were like, we were like super
Speaker 2: fucking broke and our credit score was ass but luckily
Speaker 2: we found this place to like go rent out right
Speaker 2: and it was like really cheap. There was no down payment,
Speaker 2: there was no credit check, it was perfect. And this
Speaker 2: was like a long time, it was like ten fifteen
Speaker 2: years ago something like that, And we went to the
Speaker 2: landlord of that place.
Speaker 1: We met with her.
Speaker 2: She saw us, and I guess she was like disagreeing
Speaker 2: with She didn't like our vibe or something like that.
Speaker 2: And so whenever we asked her if we could actually
Speaker 2: sign the agreement, she was like, well, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go home and pray about it, and then
Speaker 2: she reached out to us the next day. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: prayed to it, and God told me that that we
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't go through with this. And in my mind,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you are You're You're blaming God for the
Speaker 2: decision for not allowing us to come in here. So now,
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's the weirdness about, you know, having
Speaker 2: conversations with what you deem as divine beings because it
Speaker 2: inflicts upon what your thoughts are and it's kind of
Speaker 2: just merging it.
Speaker 1: And that's where it gets weird, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So, and we're in a place right now too, where it's,
Speaker 3: like I was talking about this the other day, you
Speaker 3: get to this point biblically where people are arguing about
Speaker 3: the name of God, is it Yahweh is at Jehovah?
Speaker 1: You know, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3: And what's become very clear to me over the history
Speaker 3: of our show on Neflin Death Squad is that a
Speaker 3: lot of these entities are very real, and it seems
Speaker 3: like there's a shit ton of them. In my opinion,
Speaker 3: spiritual entities are very real, and a lot of them
Speaker 3: are ancient. A lot of them have been around since
Speaker 3: you know, early man, and they've been deceiving and placing
Speaker 3: themselves as one deity or another over another group of people.
Speaker 3: I think that if you don't have really clear intentions
Speaker 3: about who you're talking to, there's no telling who's going
Speaker 3: to respond. That's just my take on the whole thing
Speaker 3: is if you're not if your intention is too abstract,
Speaker 3: it's too wide of a spread, then you're going to
Speaker 3: be potentially communing and getting answers and responses from all
Speaker 3: sorts of things. And also that attempt to commune with
Speaker 3: them acts as a sort of spiritual consent, and it
Speaker 3: gives them the right they're now allowed to engage with you.
Speaker 3: I believe this is I know this all sounds insane,
Speaker 3: but after all the studying that we've done, it looks
Speaker 3: as though even even communication can be form a form
Speaker 3: of consent that opens the door to something much larger.
Speaker 3: And so I think these things are allowed to given
Speaker 3: the right circumstances lie to you. They're allowed to deceive you.
Speaker 3: I mean legally, within this sort of spiritual law fair
Speaker 3: that exists, they.
Speaker 1: Are allowed the great deceiver.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, I.
Speaker 3: Say, Lucifer not present himself as an angel of light.
Speaker 3: It's like so many things that you think you're talking
Speaker 3: to are probably not what they say they are.
Speaker 2: I think that you can actually get a lot of
Speaker 2: understanding from this kind of stuff within like sleep paralysis, right,
Speaker 2: Like they say that some people they wake up and
Speaker 2: they're super fucking fear driven, Like they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I can't move.
Speaker 1: I'm like trapped here in this body. I can't do anything.
Speaker 2: If somebody tries to come and attack me, I'm fucked right,
Speaker 2: And so then the idea is is that your fear
Speaker 2: is essentially like manifesting itself. But then there's also other
Speaker 2: people who have, you know, have sleep paralysis and stuff,
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh shit, I'm in sleep paralysis. I
Speaker 2: wonder what I can do with this because I hear
Speaker 2: that this is the best way to ask or project
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you guys my sleep paralysis story. I'll
Speaker 3: keep it really a bridge, yeah, please. Is one time
Speaker 3: when I learned that my grandmother was having these sleep
Speaker 3: paralysis experiences, and she ended up reading a book by
Speaker 3: Whitley Striiber called Communion, and it's basically a collection of
Speaker 3: people's abductee testimonies. So she found that a lot of
Speaker 3: those details resonated with her and it really disturbed her.
Speaker 3: She passed away when I was little, but I heard
Speaker 3: about the story and was told what the book is,
Speaker 3: and so I went and sought it out. I end
Speaker 3: up reading all these stories that also mirror the experiences
Speaker 3: of my other grandma that's not related to her, and
Speaker 3: I realize like, oh shit, this is really weird. This
Speaker 3: is very close to me and my family. So I
Speaker 3: start asking questions. I find out my dad has had
Speaker 3: these same experiences. It leads me down this rabbit hole.
Speaker 5: I'm really notice that there's such a thing as hereditary
Speaker 5: blessings and curses. Yeah, there's also hereditary abilities.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I've been the recipient of a couple of
Speaker 1: not so great ones.
Speaker 3: So I start to really latch onto this because it
Speaker 3: feels so personal, you know what I mean, Like, I
Speaker 3: really love my grandmothers and you know. So I'm going
Speaker 3: down this trail and I realize logically, I say, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm spending you know, unbelievable amounts of time at the
Speaker 3: computer researching these testimonies, trying to figure out what these
Speaker 3: entities are, what this experience is, if there is truly
Speaker 3: a psychological aspect to it, which I do believe is
Speaker 3: a function that the body will go into paralysis so
Speaker 3: that you're not acting out your dreams. I said, it's
Speaker 3: likely gonna happen to me, because that's just how dreams
Speaker 3: and night works sometimes work. Right, you absorb a lot
Speaker 3: of scary shit, You're bound to have a nightmare. It's
Speaker 3: not rocket science. So sure enough, it does happen. I'm
Speaker 3: laying in bed next to my girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 3: My head's on one pillow, her head's on the next.
Speaker 3: My eyes pop open and I realize I can't move,
Speaker 3: and it almost has a humorous vibe to it. I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, it's happening. This is crazy dog. So I'm
Speaker 3: very much in this observation mode. Can't move anything but
Speaker 3: my eyes. So I'm kind of looking around the room
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to move my fingers and I'm going
Speaker 3: through this, and all of a sudden I see and
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not scared. I see a shadow walk
Speaker 3: across my room, and as I look to it, I
Speaker 3: suddenly feel like someone is slapped me with a taser
Speaker 3: might as well have been, and my body locks up
Speaker 3: even harder than it already was, and I'm full with
Speaker 3: this like this electrical buzzing, high vibration. It's resonating through
Speaker 3: my entire body and it's so intense it makes me blackout.
Speaker 3: So I wake up again. But I'm next to my
Speaker 3: girlfriend's feet, but my butt hurts, but my butt hurts
Speaker 3: a lot, right, and I look over to her feet,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Now
Speaker 3: I'm facing the other side of the bedroom. I'm still paralyzed,
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at my closet, and my closet only
Speaker 3: has like a sheet in front of it, and there's
Speaker 3: no light source in the closet, yet this unbelievably bright
Speaker 3: white light is pouring out of the closet, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on? And I'm so confused,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, the electricity hits me again.
Speaker 3: My body locks up again, and I just pass out
Speaker 3: and I wake up in the morning, and you know,
Speaker 3: nothing ever comes to me. I just wanted to tell
Speaker 3: that story, Jonathan, because I came into that in an
Speaker 3: observer's point of view. I did not have any feet,
Speaker 3: and I was still a very logical sound mind of like, Oh,
Speaker 3: the thing that I was worried is gonna happen, not
Speaker 3: even really worried, expectant to happen.
Speaker 1: It happened.
Speaker 3: Go figure, because I've been looking into it so much.
Speaker 3: But then something external happens and it brings about a
Speaker 3: feeling of mortal dread that nothing in my waking life.
Speaker 1: Has ever manifested.
Speaker 3: I've been arrested, i've been in jail, I've been in fights,
Speaker 3: I've been in all kinds of horrifying situations, and nothing
Speaker 3: has ever manifested that level of fear.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: It was one of mortal dread that I've never been
Speaker 3: able to. Nothing else compares. In fact, it doesn't feel
Speaker 3: like it was me. It feels like it was put
Speaker 3: upon me. If you go into sleep paralysis testimony, you
Speaker 3: will find that is very often the case. And I
Speaker 3: actually do get to the point where I wonder if
Speaker 3: it's a sort of a technology like an infrasound, Like
Speaker 3: there are big cats that can emit such a low
Speaker 3: growl that it'll paralyze small prey, so like oftentimes that
Speaker 3: they come across like a baby, some sort of fawn that's,
Speaker 3: you know, an infant. It typically doesn't really run away anyway.
Speaker 3: But there's a there's an extended attribute of paralysis that
Speaker 3: happens when this low growl is emitted. If you've ever
Speaker 3: heard a gator growl, that's weird as shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll like the belly vibration. That's the way they
Speaker 5: kind of do a mating call through the water.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that there is levels to it.
Speaker 4: Listen to this David go Ahead Job chapter four, verse
Speaker 4: twelve through fourteen. So he says, now, a thing was
Speaker 4: secretly brought to me and mine ear received a little
Speaker 4: thereof in thoughts from the visions of the night when
Speaker 4: deep sleep falleth on men. Fear came upon me and trembling,
Speaker 4: which made all my bones to shake. Then a spirit
Speaker 4: passed before my face, the hair of my flesh stood up.
Speaker 4: And then he continues to go on and say, this
Speaker 4: supernatural experience, but that stuff is biblical, man, that's been
Speaker 4: going on for a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I know a lot of it has to
Speaker 3: do with the person's state of mind and how they
Speaker 3: perceive these things. But as somebody who was in it
Speaker 3: clear headed, it felt very much like it was put
Speaker 3: upon me as opposed to me having a genuine sensation
Speaker 3: of fear, just because they never had it again and
Speaker 3: it was a company to be electricity.
Speaker 4: It could be both. I think I think we could
Speaker 4: do that to ourselves, like this is the state between
Speaker 4: sleeping and waking. But I also think that you know,
Speaker 4: if Tesla was correct, and if you think about the
Speaker 4: universe and vibration.
Speaker 1: And frequency and energy, was it or something like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean, if you know, true masters of
Speaker 4: whatever experience we're going through, I figured out frequency. That's
Speaker 4: just really all that this is. This is like a
Speaker 4: heart attack gun but set to sleep paralysis.
Speaker 2: Dudeah, I actually have a probably it, let me tell y'all.
Speaker 2: So actually, whenever we came down there for a Bohemian
Speaker 2: Grove was my first time doing DMT. It was the
Speaker 2: second night that we were there. I did DMT for
Speaker 2: the very first time, and the first time.
Speaker 3: I did it.
Speaker 5: Pissed we didn't go to the mini gun range with y'all,
Speaker 5: by the way, Like, I'm pissed that we missed it,
Speaker 5: but at the same time, like this spiritual journey, Well,
Speaker 5: you can't be there on DMT.
Speaker 1: I don't think they, like you said the range engine.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well the reason why we didn't go is
Speaker 2: because we stayed up so late. Everybody was talking about
Speaker 2: their DMT experiences and then we slept in super late,
Speaker 2: so we couldn't go to the gun range with y'all.
Speaker 2: That was really the reason. But anyway, so I did
Speaker 2: DMT the first, uh, the first time, and it was
Speaker 2: like such a very euphoric feeling, like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this feels so good. It feels better, It's like a
Speaker 2: thousand orgasms, like how amazing this feels, But it's all
Speaker 2: throughout your.
Speaker 5: Body, right, and what you typically hear about when people
Speaker 5: tried DMT, it was it was everything and more.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah it was. It was so amazing.
Speaker 2: But it didn't last very long, you know, And so
Speaker 2: the I guess in my mind, I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: I want that to extend a little bit farther, because
Speaker 2: you hear people having these like full on, full life
Speaker 2: things that are flashing in their in their head in
Speaker 2: just a matter of a few minutes, right, And I
Speaker 2: didn't I got to experience a little bit of that,
Speaker 2: but it was it was not that, And so then
Speaker 2: I wanted to double it up the dosage. I doubled
Speaker 2: up the fucking dosage of DMT, and so I I
Speaker 2: went to go smoke it again, and that euphoric feeling
Speaker 2: was even more euphoric.
Speaker 1: However, it was so euphoric that I couldn't handle it.
Speaker 2: And it's very reminiscent of what you're talking about, because
Speaker 2: just the fact that I couldn't handle the level of
Speaker 2: euphoria that was shooting throughout all of my soul and
Speaker 2: all of my physical being, I couldn't handle it so
Speaker 2: much that it fucking manifested itself into my mind. And
Speaker 2: what happened was is that my entire world started to
Speaker 2: fucking deteriorate. And then I thought, oh my god, what
Speaker 2: did I do. This is the worst decision I've ever made.
Speaker 2: And it was so fearful. It was the scared, the
Speaker 2: most scared I've ever been in my entire life. Nothing
Speaker 2: could ever come close to that. I even said afterward that, like, Yo,
Speaker 2: the Devil and Hell ain't got shit on what I
Speaker 2: just experienced, Like it was the scariest thing. And then
Speaker 2: what happened whenever it all fizzled away, like everything that
Speaker 2: was going on within the DMT dream, Dude, it was
Speaker 2: it was nothingness.
Speaker 1: There was nothing left.
Speaker 2: It was just barely even me, Like I there was
Speaker 2: remnants of me that were left in in this like
Speaker 2: void and dude, it it fucking caused me to literally
Speaker 2: question my reality and I still do it every like
Speaker 2: even still to this day.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of recovering from it. On some shit.
Speaker 3: I've you know, I've I've.
Speaker 5: Garnered like Knight of Bohemian Grove Jhona's is on the
Speaker 5: corner of the parking Lott just kind of doing his
Speaker 5: own thing. That's because he was having a lot of
Speaker 5: introspective conversations that he's never had.
Speaker 1: To have with himself before, trying to put his life
Speaker 1: back together.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that first night that we were over there Brahemi
Speaker 2: and Grove like that was before I did DMT. The
Speaker 2: second night for the comedy night, dude, I was out
Speaker 2: of it, Like I couldn't. I didn't even want to
Speaker 2: talk to anybody. I was just like, there's a strong
Speaker 2: chance that this is all a simulation and none of
Speaker 2: this fucking matters anyway.
Speaker 1: That was my actual thoughts went to hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you did go to hell.
Speaker 1: That's what Jacob said to one of these potential places.
Speaker 4: But I mean that's what Eno speaks about, right. And
Speaker 4: we we do a show called Neffelin Deskwa Chronicles where
Speaker 4: we had a submission eerally similar to what you just experienced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all smoking spice. I think that fucked.
Speaker 5: Oh god, they were smoking spice.
Speaker 4: Dude put a pin in it. We had to talk
Speaker 4: about K two spice. That's like, yeah, very orange before
Speaker 4: you continue. David had an idea, And I know you
Speaker 4: guys do these tremendous deep dives, but I had an
Speaker 4: idea to like both, like me and David do our
Speaker 4: own research deep dive. You do a research deep dive
Speaker 4: on a specific subject. We do a show where we
Speaker 4: all present what we found, like a show and tell.
Speaker 3: But would you guys get into that, like a recurring
Speaker 3: monthly show where we just go like super deep. We'll
Speaker 3: dive into like some topic. We won't correlate whatever we're researching.
Speaker 3: We'll bring it all to the table together and then
Speaker 3: we'll just unpack some crazy shit.
Speaker 1: Let's give me a time and place.
Speaker 3: Brother, I'm down very cool because we have stumbled upon this,
Speaker 3: this thing with K two Spice. It comes up a lot,
Speaker 3: and in a very short amount of time. It's very strange,
Speaker 3: like a matter of two weeks. And now it seems
Speaker 3: like one of the.
Speaker 4: Shooters, the guy that the guy that's set that lady
Speaker 4: on fire in sway in the subway, was going, that's
Speaker 4: actually where I grew up. Yeah, right there. I used
Speaker 4: to work in that train terminal, et cetera. On fire
Speaker 4: addicted to K two, uhty, K.
Speaker 1: Two is a powerful movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dane Chris CBD.
Speaker 5: When that ship came out, it was like vapable c
Speaker 5: high as fuck, except that was not CBD. There was
Speaker 5: no weed in that motherfucker. That was the same deets
Speaker 5: that was in K two Spice with a different flavor.
Speaker 3: I've got a feeling that there's something if we if
Speaker 3: we do a deep dive on this, we're gonna find
Speaker 3: something nefarious and something very surprising.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is, but it's just what
Speaker 1: my gut tells me. But but I'm already.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm already like bowls deep in it. So that
Speaker 4: the compound, the main one j w H zero one
Speaker 4: eight that was a name that because it's named after
Speaker 4: John John W. Huffman of Clemson University, and he was
Speaker 4: researching like cannabinoids and ship.
Speaker 1: Like this and didn't he say he was like, you
Speaker 1: should not smoke.
Speaker 4: It's his biggest it's his biggest regret that he stumbled
Speaker 4: upon this compound because this ship is like putting people
Speaker 4: in contact with demons.
Speaker 3: It's dude, And that's the that's the testimony that we've
Speaker 3: been getting back on NDS Chronic, which is the show
Speaker 3: where people submit they're they're written paranormal testimony. You read
Speaker 3: it and it's like, yeah, smoke K two had a
Speaker 3: demon attached to me for about a decade. No big deal. Uh,
Speaker 3: And we see that a lot is a weird word
Speaker 3: to use in this situational.
Speaker 5: No big deal is also a big thing to use.
Speaker 5: You had a demon on you for a decade, yo,
Speaker 5: that is a solid chunk of your fucking life. Nobody
Speaker 5: hanging over you. Yeah, yeah, AI's a doctorate. It took
Speaker 5: me ten years, No big deal. But that's not a
Speaker 5: little bit well it.
Speaker 3: To be fair, these people definitely did not treat it
Speaker 3: like it was no but they're like, this is fucking horrifying.
Speaker 3: My life has been in shambles ever since smoking spice.
Speaker 3: But I look at people like Rogan with a with
Speaker 3: a high level of skepticism. Now, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you guys ever talked to Paul Stobs of Understanding Conspiracy. Yes, uh,
Speaker 3: the guy that yes, and and he does a great
Speaker 3: job of surmising what it is these machine elves gestures
Speaker 3: and things like that and the d MT realm actually are.
Speaker 3: And he does a great breakdown of it to the
Speaker 3: point where I'm very willing to entertain that where you go,
Speaker 3: the realm that you see when you're on DMT, or
Speaker 3: at least one of the places you may see, seems
Speaker 3: to be a realm where these disembodied spirits of the
Speaker 3: Nephilim are locked in. And they're not always like these horrifying, evil,
Speaker 3: demonic things. They're they're kind of these things that shit
Speaker 3: on you. They make fun of you, They ridicule you,
Speaker 3: they make you feel terrible about yourself. They also seem
Speaker 3: to want to offer you either information knowledge about yourself
Speaker 3: about technology. Oftentimes, there are people that come back from
Speaker 3: the DMT experience saying like, Yeah, these things were gifting
Speaker 3: me shit that I just simply could not bring back here, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, to me, sounds like a tale as
Speaker 3: old as time. Every time we look to some deity
Speaker 3: and their relationship with an ancient culture, this deity is
Speaker 3: responsible for teaching agriculture, metallurgy, you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 3: They're gifting technology and information in exchange for something else.
Speaker 3: I think that Rogan, especially when you consider like his
Speaker 3: relationship with deprivation tanks and John C. Lilly's findings with
Speaker 3: deprivation tanks and doing acid and telepathically communicating with dolphins
Speaker 3: and also jerking them off, I think that there is
Speaker 3: something really weird happening here. I'm not saying that you
Speaker 3: shouldn't do DMT. We tell our audience not to do psychedelics.
Speaker 3: And the reason that I say that isn't because I
Speaker 3: don't believe that you can explore psychedelics. I just don't
Speaker 3: know personally where you are, how strong you are in
Speaker 3: your mental fortitude.
Speaker 4: Because yeah, that fucked up Jonathan's whole weekend.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, dude, exactly exactly. So I just don't
Speaker 3: know where people are in that moment. I myself have
Speaker 3: done a lot of mushrooms and had experiences that were manageable.
Speaker 3: But I've heard other people do the same amount of
Speaker 3: mushrooms as me and then say that it was completely unmanageable.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Where you are in your spiritual journey, and so I
Speaker 1: call so against it.
Speaker 4: We don't know where you are physically. Now, this is
Speaker 4: a crazy like what I think when you take these
Speaker 4: psychedelics or these drugs, these these type of enhancements like methamphetamine,
Speaker 4: I think it matters which locality you are in at
Speaker 4: what you're in physically, Like the upside down, the idea
Speaker 4: of you know, stranger things where you can go through
Speaker 4: this upside down realme. I totally think that that's true.
Speaker 4: That's why these people go to specific lay lines to
Speaker 4: do whatever kind of you know, rituals they're gonna do.
Speaker 4: They do them there. So I don't know where my
Speaker 4: audience is at. If you're in Indiana, definitely don't do that.
Speaker 4: We've been having some crazy stories out of Indiana. People
Speaker 4: making deals with the entity named Ball selling their soul
Speaker 4: create really crazy shit, and not just one, but like
Speaker 4: a slew of them.
Speaker 3: I think about six or seven, six or seven different
Speaker 3: people unrelated to one another, in the same location generally speaking,
Speaker 3: the southern half of Indiana, all telling the same story
Speaker 3: being recruited by some sort of spiritual entity, often times
Speaker 3: and upgraded for some sort of coming war.
Speaker 1: So that's the idea. They're being recruited for a coming war.
Speaker 3: And often times, or at least a good portion of
Speaker 3: them have described seeing a throne room. Where Ball's throne is,
Speaker 3: it's underground in some sort of a cave system. And
Speaker 3: what's interesting about that is if you look at this
Speaker 3: area of Indiana, it sits right above the largest cave
Speaker 3: system in America, stretches all throughout the Appalachian Mountains, heads
Speaker 3: west a little bit, and touches right over southern Indiana.
Speaker 3: So to me, I go, there seems to be a
Speaker 3: correlation here. What's very interesting is somebody hopped in my
Speaker 3: chat the other day. Her name was Robin, and she
Speaker 3: recommended to me a fictional book called Angelology. And the
Speaker 3: reason she recommended that is because in Angelology there are
Speaker 3: three places on Earth where Nephelum and the Fallen are
Speaker 3: gathering their resources and gearing up for war. One of
Speaker 3: them is Serbia, the other one is China, and the
Speaker 3: other one is Indiana. And I said, so those are.
Speaker 5: She acknowledged that it was fictional too, right. She was
Speaker 5: trying to say this is Bible.
Speaker 1: She's saying no, no, she's saying it's fictional.
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, Indiana, China, and Serbia. Serbia is the one
Speaker 3: that I'm a little bit undercertain of. There's something else
Speaker 3: that starts with an se all that might be it,
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure it's Serbia.
Speaker 5: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And so you know what we're doing here
Speaker 3: is we're piling up anecdotal evidence. But there happens to
Speaker 3: be just to the west of Indiana in Illinois, right
Speaker 3: over the border, still over that cave system, a little
Speaker 3: place called the Garden of the Gods that has a
Speaker 3: surprising concentration of cryptid sightings and also has this cave
Speaker 3: system stretching beneath it. So part of me feels we're
Speaker 3: actually going to work out a documentary and we're going
Speaker 3: to go out to Indiana, And obviously it's like not
Speaker 3: like we're going to be able to go into this
Speaker 3: cave system and find the throne room of ball, which
Speaker 3: is very interesting that this story keeps coming up.
Speaker 1: There's a throwing room.
Speaker 4: I think you can go there, but I don't think
Speaker 4: you'll go there without assistance of like peeling that veil behind.
Speaker 4: I think you can get a spot.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you're allowed to go into those caves. What
Speaker 5: is saying Pacific caverns dangerous?
Speaker 1: No more or less?
Speaker 3: Like there is parallel realms to ours that very much
Speaker 3: in way of like stranger things resemble our realm but
Speaker 3: are off in some way. I think you'll go there
Speaker 3: and find a big empty room, but in some other
Speaker 3: realm that's accessible through some sort of dream state that
Speaker 3: people are experiencing, would actually have a physical throne and
Speaker 3: an entity sitting in it.
Speaker 1: So I think it nice to see it. I'm with y.
Speaker 3: So what you would look for is it's a it's
Speaker 3: a room with incredibly high ceilings, and it is the
Speaker 3: sort of center point where many other tunnels meet up.
Speaker 3: So I think you probably would go there and find
Speaker 3: that place, and you might find something strange, but not
Speaker 3: you know, of really reactor or something. Maybe you might
Speaker 3: find like a sigil, you know what I mean, or
Speaker 3: something like that, but you won't find a dude and
Speaker 3: a throne there. So we do want to go there,
Speaker 3: But it's it's interesting that so many people are having
Speaker 3: the same experience in this little area that there are
Speaker 3: works of fiction written about it, and they're along the
Speaker 3: same lines. And I would imagine that if you wrote
Speaker 3: a fictional story about this, one of two things would
Speaker 3: have happened in order for it to line up the
Speaker 3: way that it's does. Either you would have been inspired, channeled, muses, whatever,
Speaker 3: what have you, something whispered to you you thought it
Speaker 3: was your own ideas, Or you're basing this off of
Speaker 3: testimony that you're getting from that area that otherwise would
Speaker 3: seem fictional, and so you're going this is this would
Speaker 3: make a good fictional story.
Speaker 4: Or channeling or channeling, which is like we're talking about
Speaker 4: the you know, the tablet's ancient whatever.
Speaker 3: Unrolled tablets of thought. Well, that's the same thing with
Speaker 3: Stephen King, right top. I mean, he's describing something in
Speaker 3: Maine that he is claiming comes to him in dreams.
Speaker 3: And Stephen King is a guy who spends quite a
Speaker 3: bit of time, or spent quite a bit of time
Speaker 3: during his writing years inebriated, so he's in an altered
Speaker 3: state of consciousness, and he is saying that he's getting
Speaker 3: these things through dreams cocaine.
Speaker 1: I think it is too isn't it.
Speaker 5: First, I'm gonna be straight up with you, and I
Speaker 5: know I'm gonna piss off a lot of people with
Speaker 5: this one.
Speaker 3: Stephen King's of Faggott, Well yeah, obviously, obviously, But I
Speaker 3: actually don't think he's a good writer.
Speaker 5: Like if you actually read no, no, no, like the story,
Speaker 5: he could tell a story, right, he is not good
Speaker 5: at writing. It's overworded and it's improperly worded that he
Speaker 5: tries using slang out of context to try to sound cool,
Speaker 5: like and you're also writing about an eleven year old
Speaker 5: gang bang. That's like, that's there's not even just that
Speaker 5: one thing. Fine, write that one off, But like if
Speaker 5: you actually try to read it as like a reader,
Speaker 5: it's it's it's like a fucking seventeen year old wrote.
Speaker 1: It, Jacob. We're not writing that off though.
Speaker 4: I got to read it now because I used to
Speaker 4: read all of this stuff and then I stopped for
Speaker 4: like ten years. But now I bet you if I
Speaker 4: go back and read on, like this language is kind
Speaker 4: of like unnecessary.
Speaker 3: That was the problem with angelology is like the writer
Speaker 3: a female, huge problem and also uses like so much
Speaker 3: flowery language and metaphor to describe every single thing that's
Speaker 3: happening that I just can't get like, I don't want
Speaker 3: to get lost in the way that the frost spread
Speaker 3: across the window like a spiderweb, crescendoing and reached.
Speaker 5: I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 1: It doesn't always got to be a poetry.
Speaker 5: Go go write a poem. Ya's a fucking book twice
Speaker 5: the size of the Bible. Like come off of your
Speaker 5: high horse, you dick.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 3: But there is something to that, right, because you think
Speaker 3: about what Stephen King is talking about this story that connects, right,
Speaker 3: all these stories lay over there.
Speaker 1: There's a dimensional aspect.
Speaker 3: There's some sort of like entity aspect that presents itself
Speaker 3: as a clown in some ways, which is interesting when
Speaker 3: you think about Paul Stob scenario.
Speaker 4: But let's go, let's just dissect that because I'm thinking
Speaker 4: about our Christmas episode with Brian of Demon Race A
Speaker 4: shout out this guy love, Yes he mentioned Okay, you
Speaker 4: guys are familiar mentions this entity called el KUKOUI uh,
Speaker 4: you know Tony ferguson ufc el Kakooy the Boogeyman. And
Speaker 4: that's like in a I guess, like Colombian culture, but
Speaker 4: that entity is related to the cocoa leaf el coco
Speaker 4: el KOKOUI yes, And I think that people were seeing
Speaker 4: this thing because they were chewing on a coca leaf,
Speaker 4: which is you know, that's where kind of where cocaine
Speaker 4: is derived from, like the same sort of uh, you know,
Speaker 4: same sort of drug. So you'll, I think you'll depending
Speaker 4: on the drug you're doing, math amphetamine, cocaine liquor, you're
Speaker 4: going to be open to different types of entities. If
Speaker 4: you do an ayahuaska, you'll see like a jaguar woman.
Speaker 4: If you're doing DMT, maybe you'll see the machine els,
Speaker 4: so like they exist on like odd planes.
Speaker 3: And I think it's like if the brain really is
Speaker 3: a receiver, but not in the way of like a
Speaker 3: hardwired antenna, more in the way of like a chemical
Speaker 3: batch that given the chemical makeup of the batch, allows
Speaker 3: it to tune into various things. I think that those
Speaker 3: chemicals give you access to different I guess, potential realms,
Speaker 3: or maybe they're associated specifically with entities, you know, so
Speaker 3: it could be the same entities from the dawn of
Speaker 3: time they used to be summoned by chewing this leaf,
Speaker 3: but now they're summoned by a synthetic blend that you
Speaker 3: you know, put in a silver pouch and market as
Speaker 3: an alternative to marijuana, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 3: it's that I think it's like the same root chemical
Speaker 3: compound will put you into contact. And I think that's
Speaker 3: what what Top was saying before too, where it's like
Speaker 3: we tell our audience not to do psychedelics in part
Speaker 3: because we don't know where they are. I do think
Speaker 3: that these entities are They're not omnipresent, They're not like
Speaker 3: the Father, the Creator.
Speaker 5: They are.
Speaker 1: Bogged down to localities. So that's why, like certain islands
Speaker 1: will have like a certain a deity that they see
Speaker 1: all the time or whatever, and that's what they've become
Speaker 1: associated with. Or you know, in Indiana they're seeing ball, right.
Speaker 1: It's like I think these things are in specific spots.
Speaker 1: That's like in the in the Bible, it's said that
Speaker 1: the throne of Satan was in uh Pergamam, and it's
Speaker 1: very interesting because Pergamam is essentially what was ancient Turkey,
Speaker 1: and what was found there was the the altar to Zeus,
Speaker 1: the throne of Zeus. So I think that if you
Speaker 1: look back throughout history, Ball, which I'm much more comfortable
Speaker 1: with being sort of a title. So whoever's holding this
Speaker 1: title now as ball, ball seems to mean king or
Speaker 1: something like that, which is interesting because Satan means accuser,
Speaker 1: So I think there is some conflation between actual entities
Speaker 1: and maybe titles. But Ball was once described as the
Speaker 1: king of storms, and Hadad from ancient Sumr was also
Speaker 1: described as the king of storms and was shown holding
Speaker 1: what looked to be thunderbolts or lightning bolts, right, And
Speaker 1: I think these are really the same entities. Ha Dad
Speaker 1: maybe was or is Zeus held the title at some
Speaker 1: point of Satan, which is why the throne of Satan
Speaker 1: being found in Pergrimam is where you found the altar
Speaker 1: to Zeus that, by the way, was adopted by Hitler
Speaker 1: later on his Zeppelin Tribune. His speaking grounds were designed
Speaker 1: after the altar to Zeus.
Speaker 4: Well, there's also more biblical precedents in Daniel chapter ten,
Speaker 4: where he's he's praying to God for wisdom. I think
Speaker 4: he was praying for like twenty days or something like that,
Speaker 4: or maybe a full month, right, and he's kind of like, well,
Speaker 4: where the hell is my help? And eventually I think
Speaker 4: it's the angel Michael. Right, he comes to him, is it? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was an angel Michael. And he said, hey, sorry,
Speaker 4: you know I got held up. The Prince of Persia
Speaker 4: held me up for twenty one days, but I got here.
Speaker 5: So like what was going?
Speaker 4: Like you were traveling and something held you up. You're
Speaker 4: an angel, but it took you time to get to
Speaker 4: answer this guy's prayer even though you're in direct sort
Speaker 4: of direct contact with God. That shows that these angels
Speaker 4: are not omnipresence. They're in localities and they're able to
Speaker 4: travel back and forth.
Speaker 5: But yeah, which is funny, it's a little time.
Speaker 3: It's a little counterintuitive because, like I said before, when
Speaker 3: you're amazed by something like a spiritual encounter, you tend
Speaker 3: to just like dump all your your you know, don't
Speaker 3: all your money in one spot, you dump all your
Speaker 3: attention in one spot. And you think for a second
Speaker 3: that these things are like above and beyond powerful, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like, no, they have actually a lot of restrictions.
Speaker 4: Drove here, He had to drive here, dude.
Speaker 3: Drove me here.
Speaker 5: As far as the texts go, God is the only
Speaker 5: omnipresent omnipot and all the things on the potent, whatever
Speaker 5: you want to pronounce it. But yeah, angels kind of
Speaker 5: are restricted by a lot of things, and demons are
Speaker 5: also restricted by a lot of things. Yeah, they've been
Speaker 5: given free reign to a degree, just like Satan he
Speaker 5: is given free rein but only to a certain point. Right,
Speaker 5: Like that's but again, this is if you do in
Speaker 5: fact believe in these texts. There's a lot of people
Speaker 5: that do not subscribe to the Bible.
Speaker 2: So like, I guess, well, it's it's also a lot
Speaker 2: of interpretation too, because as we we we actually just
Speaker 2: did an episode, uh it was actually episode six six six,
Speaker 2: and so we gotten in we got into Hilly Carson
Speaker 2: on No we talked about him though, but we got
Speaker 2: into like a lot of Satanism and a lot of
Speaker 2: the Satanistic beliefs and and stuff like that. And what
Speaker 2: we found was that, you know, Satan isn't a guy
Speaker 2: that you were kind of you know, saying earlier. It's uh,
Speaker 2: one of the names that that they say is an adversary.
Speaker 2: So whoever you would call like somebody who was opposing you,
Speaker 2: that is your Satan kind of thing. And that's why
Speaker 2: you know, even in the Bible. It's it doesn't say Satan.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say oh and then I met Satan. It
Speaker 2: says and then I met a Satan. And it's like, way,
Speaker 2: does what do you mean a Satan? Are there multiple Satans?
Speaker 2: Or is this just a title that you call somebody
Speaker 2: that is opposing whatever you're trying to carry out?
Speaker 5: What was thinking to you that came on and broke
Speaker 5: down the Greek language of it. I know the face.
Speaker 5: I cannot remember his name. He's another biblical scholar. He's
Speaker 5: he's a fucking og with he got a doctorate in
Speaker 5: the shit. Uh well, he went on Danny Jones show
Speaker 5: not too long ago and was talking about the Greek
Speaker 5: to Latin translations and all that he speaks at all.
Speaker 5: He's a doctorate and it very similar to Westolf shit.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he broke down what that meant, like a
Speaker 5: I do you think it's a adversary? Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: it's it's it's a little bit more.
Speaker 3: We're definitely on well, I can't say we're definitely on
Speaker 3: the right track, but I feel as though we're on
Speaker 3: the right track with it.
Speaker 1: But I think it's a little bit more nuanced than that.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually a role that it's necessary. It's
Speaker 1: a job title. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And that guy, that guy's the one that made the
Speaker 5: connection between like a butt dial and a booty call. Right,
Speaker 5: And how like if somebody two thousand years from now
Speaker 5: reads an English, they somehow are able to transcribe American
Speaker 5: English circa twenty twenty four, there's going to be some
Speaker 5: experts saying that a butt dial in a booty called
Speaker 5: the exact same thing because this word means this, how
Speaker 5: can you deny? And it's like, no, dude, language transverses.
Speaker 5: This word doesn't mean the same thing now that it
Speaker 5: did fifty years ago, let alone one hundred years ago,
Speaker 5: even in the same language with the same letters in
Speaker 5: the whole nine. So, like the Greek language, as the
Speaker 5: Bible's being written, it changed from time to time. That's
Speaker 5: why you have to look at the context of it
Speaker 5: the time to place the audience on every fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we do so much of it.
Speaker 3: That's by the way, you can see the detriment to
Speaker 3: the Tower of Babbel being destroyed and all the languages
Speaker 3: being scattered. It's like, yeah, it will forever be off.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know when it comes to a garden
Speaker 3: and casting out the Nakash. It's like they it seemingly
Speaker 3: the Nakash had a place in the garden, was a
Speaker 3: respectable creature, you know, uh was a high level spiritual entity,
Speaker 3: but crossed the line. And then it kind of brings
Speaker 3: the question. It's like, well, was the point to deceive
Speaker 3: but not to within bounds within reason? Like the same
Speaker 3: thing when when God is talking to say exactly, and
Speaker 3: it's like, within bounds, within reasons, you can do this
Speaker 3: to Job, you can do that to Job, but you're
Speaker 3: not allowed to do that, And it's like argument.
Speaker 4: There's an argument as well for the Satan in the
Speaker 4: Book of Job not being like the same.
Speaker 5: You're talking about, because he walks up to God's presence,
Speaker 5: which we know that that can't happen. And then so
Speaker 5: I get into these fights with Christians about the Book
Speaker 5: of Job in particular, it is the oldest written book
Speaker 5: within the Bible, even though it's not the first book entered.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 5: How is that? Look, I wasn't at the fucking meeting, okay,
Speaker 5: but that is the fact that we believe was one
Speaker 5: of the oral torahs, because there is a written Torah
Speaker 5: and there's an oral torah, and they believe that you
Speaker 5: cannot even begin to understand it unless you have both.
Speaker 5: There's a theory that says the Book of Job was
Speaker 5: one of those oral torahs, that was one of those
Speaker 5: stories that was passed down time and time again that
Speaker 5: somebody thought, no, no, no, there's real things that we
Speaker 5: need to add into the book on this, right. But
Speaker 5: then like these Christians that take the Bible to be
Speaker 5: completely as it says, otherwise it wouldn't be there. It's like,
Speaker 5: you understand that that can't happen by God's law, Like
Speaker 5: Satan isn't gonna just fly around the earth a little
Speaker 5: bit and pick out people to go place bets with
Speaker 5: God who A doesn't gamble and b Satan is not
Speaker 5: even able to be in the presence of the All
Speaker 5: Powerful because of the way it's all played out. So
Speaker 5: it's like, you gotta understand Job is a lesson and
Speaker 5: a parable And then they're like, what's never said that
Speaker 5: it is. I'm like, look at it, fucker, Like, I just.
Speaker 3: Wonder if it comes down to a tremendous misunderstanding of
Speaker 3: what Satan is too. Yeah, right, I mean, like I
Speaker 3: think there are room for fallen entities, entities that rebelled
Speaker 3: and were tossed out of God's grace and do break
Speaker 3: a lot of rules. And I think that we're here
Speaker 3: to bear witness to it so that they could be
Speaker 3: judged apparently, you know, in the end. But I do
Speaker 3: think that Satan almost seems like a how do I
Speaker 3: put this thesis?
Speaker 5: Bad guy, the villain.
Speaker 1: Well, he's got a job to do.
Speaker 3: His job seemingly is to test mankind in so many
Speaker 3: ways and to see if he can present a compelling
Speaker 3: enough thing that we will choose that instead of God,
Speaker 3: and that seems to be.
Speaker 5: He's trying to throw off the timeline.
Speaker 3: Though, well that's interesting if you get into like the
Speaker 3: little season shit right, Oh.
Speaker 5: I'm talking like Hitler. Like to make the end time
Speaker 5: prophecies happen, you have to have the nation of Israel.
Speaker 5: They can't exist, that they're all in an oven. So
Speaker 5: I believe that that was all a part of it too,
Speaker 5: Because no one knows the Bible better than Satan. No
Speaker 5: one knows how this story is going to end more
Speaker 5: than he does. And I think that he is doing
Speaker 5: everything in this power to stop it. That's why he
Speaker 5: had Herod kill every two year old in Bethlehem when
Speaker 5: Jesus was born. That's why had these other kings from
Speaker 5: the dawn of time do what they've done to certain people,
Speaker 5: not just the Jews. I believe there's a reason why
Speaker 5: the world, the political scheme, the war games that are
Speaker 5: being played right now. I believe there's very very spiritual
Speaker 5: reasons why all this is happening. And I think that
Speaker 5: Satan knows that, and he's doing everything he can to
Speaker 5: throw it off.
Speaker 4: It feels like he's doing everything you can to fulfill prophecy,
Speaker 4: because like you said, you tried to kill Jesus before
Speaker 4: he was born, you didn't, and then you killed him anyway,
Speaker 4: thus fulfilling prophecy. I mean, the red Hefer situation. It's
Speaker 4: like you're just fulfilling prophecy. And it's weird to think about, Like,
Speaker 4: so is he trying to like get us there is
Speaker 4: I really don't understand that job.
Speaker 5: I think he's trying to stop it from happening, but
Speaker 5: he can't because you know it's gonna happen one way
Speaker 5: or another. But it's like he can't just lay back
Speaker 5: and accept it. He's got to do what he can.
Speaker 5: He's got to corrupt mankind. He's got to try to
Speaker 5: do this. You gotta try to. It's just how it
Speaker 5: has to be. Why does there have to be a
Speaker 5: yang for the ying? Why must it be? Because it's
Speaker 5: simply my.
Speaker 4: It's something beautiful about it too, right, like if there
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know where Jonathan's at on it,
Speaker 4: but like if you the old place, but if you
Speaker 4: believe that there was a creator, then he would create
Speaker 4: this other angel to then do this part where there
Speaker 4: has to He's he's creating this opposition, whereas guy wasn't intended?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Was intended?
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh you think it was. You think he made
Speaker 5: Lucifer to be his right hand man just to fall
Speaker 5: to kickstart all of this.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I think the angels fall when they
Speaker 4: when they accept worship.
Speaker 5: So wait, Lucifer was a leader of the worship.
Speaker 4: He was he was from people.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I think they're just trying to emulate. Okay,
Speaker 5: well you're saying this God created Lucifer for the whole
Speaker 5: purpose to make it happen, or you.
Speaker 4: Could kind of think about it forever, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: is it the chicken or the egg? Because he creates,
Speaker 4: he creates uh, Lucifer. The job title is Satan. He's
Speaker 4: in the garden, he tempts Adam and Eve and he's successful.
Speaker 4: But that's I mean, he gets kicked out of the garden.
Speaker 4: Maybe he broke some kind of metaphiis.
Speaker 5: That wasn't his job though. He wasn't supposed to tempt him.
Speaker 5: That was after he fell from heaven. That was after
Speaker 5: he rebelled against God in a third of the angels
Speaker 5: fell to heaven or fell to earth. He went into
Speaker 5: the garden to corrupt God's creation. That's when when did
Speaker 5: the full?
Speaker 4: When did the full happen?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Like, did it happen? Did it happen pre Adam or
Speaker 4: did it happen post Adam. It's like, I'm not really sure.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I've never thought about it because I don't think it.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like does it matter. Let's say, let's
Speaker 5: say the Garden of Eden was going on for like
Speaker 5: four thousand years of perfection and then the fall happened,
Speaker 5: and then Satan comes in temptsum. It may have been
Speaker 5: a week, it may have been literally seven days later,
Speaker 5: Like I don't know. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: I don't believe that he would have created these things
Speaker 5: to rebel against him, just to make these things happen.
Speaker 5: And I think that that was kind of the point.
Speaker 5: Lucifer gets here and he's like, yo, I'm throwing the
Speaker 5: name Lucifer. We know that they the guy, the evil dude, right,
Speaker 5: it's like Jesus, slash your shoe, bear with me. But
Speaker 5: I think he got here and was like, yeah, I
Speaker 5: gotta do everything I can to screw this up. We
Speaker 5: got all these creatures, hey, all these dudes, and brought
Speaker 5: down here. I need you all, fuck everything. I need
Speaker 5: you to make babies with literally everything, animals, humans, fuck
Speaker 5: a rocket. If he can make a baby, like, get
Speaker 5: that after it. We gotta screw up this entire program.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, this is this is a little
Speaker 3: bit off topic. But last night I'm watching something with
Speaker 3: my wife. She's watching a TikTok and and it's a
Speaker 3: woman who is talking about how well she takes care
Speaker 3: of herself, presents herself. She's had a lifetime of pursuing,
Speaker 3: you know, all this education. She's successful, but she is
Speaker 3: touching forty and just cannot find a man. And what
Speaker 3: I thought was wild about that was, oh, feminism, sold
Speaker 3: women a bad bag, this idea that you need to
Speaker 3: pursue this career.
Speaker 1: Everything is about.
Speaker 3: Self love, self improvement, and and you know, they have
Speaker 3: all these little things like not sacrificing your piece.
Speaker 1: I'm not sacrificing my peace for anybody. It's like a
Speaker 1: lot of catchphrases that women attached to.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because at one point the feminist movement
Speaker 3: did have Lilith as a mascot, and it was done
Speaker 3: in us. Yeah, they were doing it through the lens
Speaker 3: of like sort of this idea that Lilith was Adam's
Speaker 3: first wife and didn't want to be dominated and reveled
Speaker 3: against him, and so in the spirit of that, that's
Speaker 3: I don't believe that's actually what happened at all.
Speaker 1: I think Lilith was something. I think Lilith was likely
Speaker 1: the first woman to.
Speaker 3: Engage with a fallen and allow this. Like so they
Speaker 3: call her like the mother of monsters. I think that's
Speaker 3: probably more accurate. She was the first woman to basically
Speaker 3: be the mother to Nephelim. But what I think is
Speaker 3: interesting about that is everything is about everything in feminism
Speaker 3: is so selfish, right, It's all about the self. It's
Speaker 3: all about preserving you know, womanhood, not being subjected to
Speaker 3: the rule of man, pursuing things that build you up.
Speaker 3: So you're pursuing your career, you're pursuing your education. And unfortunately,
Speaker 3: now you're at an age where all the people who
Speaker 3: are interested in romantic love of any sort.
Speaker 1: They're married.
Speaker 3: People that were into that are off the table now
Speaker 3: they're married. The only ones that are left are people
Speaker 3: that weren't figuring it out. But I think that when
Speaker 3: it comes to these entities, they first and foremost they
Speaker 3: want veneration, they want worship, but they'll accept lesser degrees
Speaker 3: of it. In other words, as long as you're not
Speaker 3: worshiping the Father, as long as you're not actually pointing,
Speaker 3: you know, your energy and trying to align your will
Speaker 3: with the creator of this universe, then they'll take I
Speaker 3: don't know, self worship. You could worship yourself. That's fine,
Speaker 3: and that that is kind of paganism, isn't it, because
Speaker 3: it's no age satanism or humanism exactly.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's self worship.
Speaker 3: And everything right now is about like self self improvement,
Speaker 3: protecting your peace, you know, not sacrificing for other people.
Speaker 1: Like it's this whole Parado.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have What was it? Eckhart in the fourteenth
Speaker 5: century wrote about.
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 5: It's the thing that y'all talk about a lot, Jonathan
Speaker 5: about how uh all of us have a spark of
Speaker 5: the source within us and that kind of thing, and
Speaker 5: like we're all the same spirit having a million different experiences.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus said that the Kingdom of Heaven is
Speaker 1: within you, so same thing.
Speaker 5: It's not the same thing at all, but I yeah,
Speaker 5: that's like saying you have goodness within you, the Kingdom
Speaker 5: of Heaven, the spirit of God being within you, that
Speaker 5: be your morals. That's the thing nugging nudging you, saying, hey,
Speaker 5: don't murder people like that's that that doesn't mean soul? Right?
Speaker 1: Where are we say?
Speaker 3: In that top I forgot what show we were on,
Speaker 3: but it was like God sent his only sudden to
Speaker 3: die for your sins. Will you choose him? Then?
Speaker 1: New?
Speaker 3: What if your what if my spirit resides within you
Speaker 3: and is your ever present conscious and that tells you
Speaker 3: to aim towards true and good, will you choose me?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 1: No, We'll still choose ourselves.
Speaker 5: It is they say in the end times, they're gonna
Speaker 5: see with their own eyes, the wild shit going on,
Speaker 5: and they're still just gonna be like, no.
Speaker 3: H yeah, but that's I do think that feminist movement
Speaker 3: is in alignment with that. It's self worship. It's basically
Speaker 3: because if you boiled paganism down to its most reductive form,
Speaker 3: I believe it's just worshiping the creation instead of the creator.
Speaker 3: That's how you can put it in the simplest form.
Speaker 3: So whether or not you're worshiping a pantheon of lesser deities,
Speaker 3: or you're engaging in some form of self worship, or
Speaker 3: if you're somebody whose walls are covered in star Wars
Speaker 3: and Marvel posters and every day you wake up and
Speaker 3: it's the first thing that you see, and you put
Speaker 3: on your Marvel shirt and you never miss a movie
Speaker 3: and you go to comic cons and stuff. It's like
Speaker 3: the same energy that human beings dedicate towards worship is
Speaker 3: the same energy that then gets funneled into those things.
Speaker 3: So you know, even if you're sort of an Andrew
Speaker 3: Tait character where everything is about like the self and
Speaker 3: building the self up, and you know, like have sex
Speaker 3: with the high Room of women and don't get married
Speaker 3: and get the Bugatti and walk around everywhere with no
Speaker 3: shirt on and heaven like, I look, I.
Speaker 1: Like working out.
Speaker 4: You see his tweet for Christmas. I mean, just the
Speaker 4: guy is on the level.
Speaker 5: What did he do?
Speaker 4: He's doing shoulder presses and there's like a three sixty
Speaker 4: camera and it's like a beautiful Christmas tree. But he's
Speaker 4: by himself, just shoulder presses, and he's like the real
Speaker 4: men do shoulder presses and if you take naps, you're gay.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like this guy nails he nails it.
Speaker 4: Like whatever he's doing, it's very lou fan.
Speaker 5: There those human trafficking charges, I've never heard anything of.
Speaker 5: You can do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Hey, Jacob, didn't you know you could do whatever you want?
Speaker 1: Do with thou wilt? Okay, that's the name of the game.
Speaker 3: You want to traffic a bunch of people and then
Speaker 3: go on to be a millionaire afterwards and drive a Bugatti.
Speaker 1: Do with thou wilt, homie.
Speaker 5: So I don't even trying to throw shaite. I actually
Speaker 5: don't know how that ever shook out. So the fact
Speaker 5: that he's I don't know it. I mean he's been
Speaker 5: tweeting NonStop. I don't know what the hell happened to
Speaker 5: I just got it.
Speaker 4: He got arrested by Romanian police and they found his
Speaker 4: location due to a pizza box that he ordered pizza
Speaker 4: two in a livestream figure A little hint there. Then yeah,
Speaker 4: then he they put him in jail for a little while.
Speaker 4: Then he's out of jail mysteriously. And I don't know
Speaker 4: how Romania works. I know it's a very rough countryman.
Speaker 5: Works like Ukraine worked six years ago. If you're catching
Speaker 5: my drift, Like, they have a government, they have a
Speaker 5: police force, they have other countries that pay them to
Speaker 5: do certain things that they can't do on their land.
Speaker 5: And they're a homie but by proxy, if you will.
Speaker 5: It's kind of the wild West in certain regions.
Speaker 3: Right Well, I just think that that those you know,
Speaker 3: if we look at the feminist movement and you consider
Speaker 3: that some form of paganism, some form of self worship,
Speaker 3: I think that red pill movement is the same thing
Speaker 3: for men, Like there is a certain amount of it
Speaker 3: that is fun, Like I like martial arts, I like
Speaker 3: working out, I like cigars, I like cool shit, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like, I look, I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that you have to sit at a long table with
Speaker 3: all your homies with no shirt on every night for dinner.
Speaker 3: That's a weird thing that he does. But I think
Speaker 3: getting together with shirts on with your homies every once
Speaker 3: in a while at a big table could be a
Speaker 3: lot of fun.
Speaker 1: But he's taken it to this point.
Speaker 3: The red pill movement has taken it to this point
Speaker 3: where it's like it's the same thing as feminism, but
Speaker 3: it's for men.
Speaker 1: And at this point, I'm very comfortable calling.
Speaker 3: All that shit paganism where it's like you're just engaging
Speaker 3: in self work, yeah, and very gay self worship.
Speaker 2: What I feel is uh, kind of like this weird,
Speaker 2: strange power that people have whenever, you know, whenever you're
Speaker 2: let's just say religious, right, Like, so people think that
Speaker 2: paganism is something that is extremely horrible and they're devil
Speaker 2: worshipers and stuff like that. Really, all a pagan is
Speaker 2: is just not a religious person. It's just not a Christian.
Speaker 2: It's not a Jew or whatever, right, not a Jew.
Speaker 2: So and then the Jews have the same thing. Well,
Speaker 2: if you're not a Jew, then you're a gentile. And
Speaker 2: it's like these weird connotations and these weird meanings that are.
Speaker 5: A taislem or an infidel.
Speaker 2: Right, it's like, all right, you're either with us or
Speaker 2: you're literally a pedophile.
Speaker 1: Like that's but I don't think that that's fair.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like a better word, right,
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I wouldn't call like, maybe it's not
Speaker 3: fair to say self worship is paganism.
Speaker 5: Your cameras frozen.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 3: I just got a spirit fingers long enough and then
Speaker 3: it comes back. All right, yeah, there it goes. I
Speaker 3: don't fucking know why. Maybe you don't have to necessarily.
Speaker 3: Maybe self worship isn't paganism. There's a difference between that, right,
Speaker 3: and actually communing with entities that you believe are real
Speaker 3: and asking for some sort of prid quote quote which,
Speaker 3: by the way, I think women tend to be pagan
Speaker 3: more often than men, and I think that's the reason
Speaker 3: being is because if you leave them alone to their
Speaker 3: own devices, without men to help and build things for
Speaker 3: them and care for them, they become incredibly desperate, incredibly desperate.
Speaker 5: I'm going to who, You're gonna piss off some people
Speaker 5: with that one, and I'm going to just mention before
Speaker 5: people fucking like their torches and pitchforks at my boy here,
Speaker 5: understand that do it dog demonology written by King James. Yes,
Speaker 5: I understand. Throw your shade on him. Fine, even mentions
Speaker 5: why they believed in the fifteen hundreds why there were
Speaker 5: more females of the quote unquote Satanic or which or
Speaker 5: spiritual thing than in the Bible. They mention that there
Speaker 5: would be more women that would fall victim to these things. Yes,
Speaker 5: I understand that was written by Paul and he had
Speaker 5: a little bit of a fucking issue.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we could just explain it on a level.
Speaker 3: It's very difficult to exist in the wilderness without men, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: if something happens, imagine how many scenarios back in the day,
Speaker 3: your village gets torched, the women escape, they create a
Speaker 3: little self sustaining group somewhere else in the forest, but
Speaker 3: they don't have the ability to hunt for food, and
Speaker 3: they start to lose their fucking minds and wither away.
Speaker 3: A couple of those are going to reach out to
Speaker 3: some sort of especially when you become that desperate. These
Speaker 3: spirits will present themselves to you, oh for sure. And
Speaker 3: if it presents itself to you and it offers you
Speaker 3: something in exchange for something else, do you think that
Speaker 3: these women are. Some of them maybe won't, but a
Speaker 3: lot of them do towards that point.
Speaker 5: And again this is not towards women because like fine,
Speaker 5: the blending statement that there are more women in these
Speaker 5: types of thought processes then men, that's not an opinion,
Speaker 5: that's a mathematical fact. One plus one still equals to
Speaker 5: in this bitch right. So that being said, why are
Speaker 5: all of them led by men? All of these other
Speaker 5: organizations and religions that blast how females are so much better?
Speaker 5: All have dudes at the head of them.
Speaker 1: You know what else interesting?
Speaker 4: Because guys, dudes rock, We crush, We crush the heart.
Speaker 3: That's why every time you trans one of us and
Speaker 3: you put us in female sports, we dominate. We crush them,
Speaker 3: because that's what we're put here to do, is dominate
Speaker 3: and crush. But look, if you look at the Christian
Speaker 3: Church or the Catholic Church, women are not meant to
Speaker 3: hold high places of spiritual authority rights the.
Speaker 5: Bible very plainly.
Speaker 3: How came when you go to covens, when you go
Speaker 3: to you know, the Church of Satan, why do you
Speaker 3: have the idea of like the mothers of darkness? How
Speaker 3: can when you look to all these other worshiping cults.
Speaker 3: They allow women to hold high places of spiritual authority.
Speaker 3: It's because I think women do have a I don't
Speaker 3: want to say a stronger conection to the spiritual realm.
Speaker 3: I think the negative spiritual entities.
Speaker 4: No, for sure, Now it's stronger. I mean life is
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 1: A question of a chicken or the egg.
Speaker 3: Is it that they have a stronger connection or do
Speaker 3: these entities seek them out because they know that they
Speaker 3: don't have the conviction that men have.
Speaker 4: Women are portals that literally cultivate the spirit of God
Speaker 4: inside of their body and then bring it through the world.
Speaker 4: It's something incredible about what a woman does. I mean
Speaker 4: obviously in conjunction with the man, but the man just
Speaker 4: plays a small role. These guys are the incubators of
Speaker 4: their spiritual not to say like we are gods and
Speaker 4: all this stuff, but like there's a spirit in everything,
Speaker 4: and they create a freaking life for that, they create
Speaker 4: a body. It's it's incredible. So yeah, of course they're
Speaker 4: more susceptible to spiritual attacks or just spirituality in general.
Speaker 4: There's something special about women.
Speaker 5: I love women.
Speaker 4: I love my wife. This is why I fucking hate
Speaker 4: the red pill movement. They tell young men, don't get married,
Speaker 4: don't seek this kind of relationship. I'm like, no, do
Speaker 4: do those things. It's a there's there's a lot of
Speaker 4: beauty in what a woman could bring to your life.
Speaker 3: One of the most meaningful things that you could do
Speaker 3: is to find someone who you love, to have a child,
Speaker 3: to become parents, you know, like that's the most meaningful shit.
Speaker 1: That you can do.
Speaker 4: But show we took a lot of shit on women. Sure,
Speaker 4: I say that there's just a set of holes, but
Speaker 4: I don't mean it. I mean think about think about women, right,
Speaker 4: and how much harder life used to be. And you're
Speaker 4: always behind the apall. You're never gonna be as strong,
Speaker 4: you're never gonna be as fast. Right, you can't invent
Speaker 4: things for whatever reason, And so eventually a man invent
Speaker 4: invented the tampon that my dog gates figure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: You do you think that there aren't going to be historically,
Speaker 3: of course there are. And there's so many uh moments
Speaker 3: you can point to in history that will show this
Speaker 3: women trying to even the playing field, and to do
Speaker 3: that it really helps to have some sort of entity
Speaker 3: on your side. So you have women who have been,
Speaker 3: you know, scorned. It's like you look at the feminist movement.
Speaker 3: They're wearing pussy hats, They're screaming into the sky mascot.
Speaker 3: Do you think any of those women, if they were
Speaker 3: to commune with a spiritual entity, wouldn't take advantage of
Speaker 3: the fact that it can make them stronger in some
Speaker 3: perceivable way than men.
Speaker 5: You know this, When a woman goes on the war path,
Speaker 5: and I don't mean goes on a bitch fit, okay,
Speaker 5: I mean when a woman has been so wronged that
Speaker 5: she is deeping into, digging into the deepest recesses of herself,
Speaker 5: and goes on the true war path. That Bible also says,
Speaker 5: hell hath no fury like a woman scorned and regardless
Speaker 5: of what entity they are calling upon, I believe these
Speaker 5: are the types of women that we now call legends.
Speaker 5: I am talking about Olga of Russia, I am talking
Speaker 5: about Joan of arc I am talking about Boudica. Right.
Speaker 5: It's not just oh, well, she was just this one.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, you pissed on the wrong fucking one,
Speaker 5: and she decided that we will be speaking her name
Speaker 5: for years to come. The problem is that that type
Speaker 5: of thing. It's within all of us. It's within all
Speaker 5: women for sure, but it's not called upon often. I
Speaker 5: believe it's there, and I believe that that type of
Speaker 5: righteous fury, when a woman goes on that type of
Speaker 5: thing and calls upon the spirits of whatever type for
Speaker 5: righteous means. Yeah, I believe that kind of sets her
Speaker 5: apart from everyone.
Speaker 2: Bo if you think about it, like the idea of
Speaker 2: like the Bible per se, like that seems to be
Speaker 2: more of a patriarchal kind of piece of literature, right,
Speaker 2: and then you start looking into you know, like witchcraft
Speaker 2: books and shit like that, obviously more of a matriarchal
Speaker 2: kind of ideology. But I think, you know, we actually
Speaker 2: had a guest on here recently.
Speaker 1: Her name was P. S. Montgomery.
Speaker 2: She wrote a book called The Summerland and very fascinating
Speaker 2: point of view, like whether you agree with it or
Speaker 2: disagree with it, it's a fascinating point of view in
Speaker 2: which she was kind of transcribing a bit of the
Speaker 2: Sumerian scrolls.
Speaker 1: Is it scrolls or tablets?
Speaker 2: I always get that mixed up, But the Samerian writings
Speaker 2: and what she was saying, that's the whole anke and
Speaker 2: end Little kind of story and you know, which, do
Speaker 2: what you want with that. I mean, I do find
Speaker 2: it fascinating how multiple cultures across the across the globe
Speaker 2: or the flat earth have kind of taken that and
Speaker 2: they they they've made it their own in kind of
Speaker 2: a weird way. There's different variations of the story, but
Speaker 2: it's all, you know, kind of the same story across
Speaker 2: the world in a weird way. But what she was
Speaker 2: going into is that she doesn't she believes that this
Speaker 2: is kind of a prison planet, which you know, it
Speaker 2: gets back to the whole Samerian tablets and whatnot. And
Speaker 2: so the idea is is that basically, the the the
Speaker 2: the god of the Bible is essentially I think ANKI
Speaker 2: or end Little, maybe both, I'm not sure, and that
Speaker 2: the reason why all of this horrible shit is allowed
Speaker 2: to happen, like rape and murder and you know, name
Speaker 2: your thing, war and all that kind of shit, it's
Speaker 2: because the creator coded it into this matrix that we
Speaker 2: live in that kind of like, you know, an all
Speaker 2: loving God wouldn't even like fathom the possibility of making
Speaker 2: this even a perception of reality, let alone actually you know,
Speaker 2: like physically happening in stuff like that. So it is
Speaker 2: an interesting kind of way of looking at it. And
Speaker 2: so like, I don't know, I understand why you would
Speaker 2: have women coming up with their own story that doesn't
Speaker 2: necessarily center around that, and maybe they are playing with
Speaker 2: other forces. But you know, is it possible that everybody,
Speaker 2: everybody that calls God God, are we all talking about
Speaker 2: like Big G? Or is it Little G? Because that
Speaker 2: can get you know, a little muddy. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: how can you know that you're talking to Big G?
Speaker 2: And is there even a way to talk to Big G,
Speaker 2: like the actual creator of the universe, the omnipresent, the omnipotent,
Speaker 2: the Alpha and the Omega? Is there a way to
Speaker 2: even talk with that? And I think there is, But
Speaker 2: I just think that maybe it's not what we think
Speaker 2: it is, you know, like it's it's up to everybody's
Speaker 2: own interpretation. So if you had men back in the
Speaker 2: day that we're trying to interpret this information that was
Speaker 2: coming from the Alpha and the Omega, you would probably, like,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of like people who channel, You're gonna
Speaker 2: mix a little bit of you in there, and that's
Speaker 2: probably why you would have men at the helm saying that, well,
Speaker 2: women can't do this because clearly I'm a man, and
Speaker 2: clearly you're not receiving these messages, right, And so you
Speaker 2: could understand like a little bit of the butt herdedness
Speaker 2: that you would get from a woman, that the hell
Speaker 2: hath no fury, like a woman scorned and all that. Like,
Speaker 2: you could understand that because it kind of is up
Speaker 2: to the interpreter. Now you could say, well, God speaks
Speaker 2: in very clear messages. Well, maybe he does to you,
Speaker 2: but is that meant for the world.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like there's a lot of conjecture here.
Speaker 3: I think one of the things that's become really clear
Speaker 3: to me over time is what you're touching on is
Speaker 3: like the actual heart of the mystery, I think. And
Speaker 3: it's that across all these different cultures, they're all telling
Speaker 3: the same story, but with minor details that deviate one
Speaker 3: way or another. And for a long time I was
Speaker 3: a yakub in a sense, right, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: okay on Anaki sky Daddy's right. Zacharia Sitchen seems to
Speaker 3: have like a pretty decent explanation of these things. Maybe
Speaker 3: we were created as a slave race to mind gold
Speaker 3: for a superior group of entities that's on a planet
Speaker 3: that's on an elliptical orbit that comes back every so
Speaker 3: many thousands of years, and for whatever reason, they need
Speaker 3: gold suspended in their atmosphere. And they created us from
Speaker 3: you know, ancient or early monkeys essentially in order to
Speaker 3: be good slave.
Speaker 5: Keeps getting recycled by different people. It's kind of crazy,
Speaker 5: different names get attributed. But the aliens need gold, man, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the aliens need gold.
Speaker 3: But the thing I think that's significant about the Biblical interpretation,
Speaker 3: and you know, you use a lot of different tools, right,
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm never saying I don't look at the Autanaki.
Speaker 3: I'm never saying I don't look at you know, the whatever,
Speaker 3: the ancient Peruvians, the Inca, whatever they believed. And I
Speaker 3: look at all those things and I recognize there's a
Speaker 3: tremendous through line. And so the question that becomes, well,
Speaker 3: why then is yours the source of truth and theirs isn't?
Speaker 3: And I would say that, and I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: anybody accused me he of that, but I'm saying that
Speaker 3: would be a misnomer. There is a tremendous amount of
Speaker 3: truth within all of these things. It just mind's a
Speaker 3: little bit more true. And the reason that it's a
Speaker 3: little bit more true, I think is because it has
Speaker 3: the nature of these entities down. The other belief systems
Speaker 3: venerate and worship them, and they always want some sort
Speaker 3: of a sacrifice, by the way, it's always, you know,
Speaker 3: give me offerings, kill this thing, whatever, whatever, And Christianity
Speaker 3: is the only one that says these things do exist. Which,
Speaker 3: by the way, for a long time, the Church just
Speaker 3: fumbled that ball, immeasurably fumbled that ball. It was like,
Speaker 3: let us create a seminower dogy, Yeah, do not take
Speaker 3: any other gods before me?
Speaker 1: What other gods?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Fumble that ball miserably so.
Speaker 5: They could have acknowledged it. Remember when they brought the
Speaker 5: ark of the Covenant into the temple of another god
Speaker 5: and that status which you got destroyed by.
Speaker 3: Some right, I mean, it's right there, over and over
Speaker 3: and over again, by the way. So if you can
Speaker 3: address that and say there are other gods, but let
Speaker 3: me explain the nature of them. The nature of them
Speaker 3: is that a third of these spiritual beings they transgressed,
Speaker 3: they rebelled, they are fallen, and that idea of like,
Speaker 3: why would an all loving God allow these things. I
Speaker 3: think our idea of love. Well he doesn't though. That's
Speaker 3: that's the very free will about that. That's free will.
Speaker 3: There you go, that that's that's it.
Speaker 5: This idea why it's all loving, bro, that's free will.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. The ones who don't have free will, Jonathan,
Speaker 4: are those fallen angels. They've accepted some form of worship
Speaker 4: from God's creation people, and that's when you fall. He's
Speaker 4: placed them over a certain localities. Every time Israel's had
Speaker 4: a king, he's like all right, like and they even
Speaker 4: mentioned in the Bible it's like, well you have the
Speaker 4: king here, and then you have this prince this uh,
Speaker 4: this being above him, and oftentimes that being will then
Speaker 4: fall because they accept the worship. So, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: when whenever you read the Bible, whenever you see God
Speaker 4: talk to when he right right in the beginning, he's
Speaker 4: talking to Adam and even he's like, hey, guys, uh,
Speaker 4: what are you doing over there? Where are you lie?
Speaker 4: And they fumble and they and they oh, but but
Speaker 4: the woman, Oh but you gave me to her and
Speaker 4: they blame God, and God's like, all right, not cool.
Speaker 4: He say, I'm going to address a snake, and when
Speaker 4: he addresses the nakash the snake, he talks to him
Speaker 4: and judges him directly. It's not a bargain. There is
Speaker 4: no love there because there's no free will.
Speaker 5: And that's a master speaking to his slave.
Speaker 3: Yes, when you look at the Bible, he always he
Speaker 3: kind of has a tendency to ask humans questions, right,
Speaker 3: even though it's like when God's walking through the garden,
Speaker 3: he's looking for him and he's like where are you?
Speaker 3: Like God knows where you are.
Speaker 4: But you're behind the leaves.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like you're talking to your child, like what
Speaker 1: did you do? Why did you do that? What did
Speaker 1: we say about doing that?
Speaker 3: But then when he finds the thing that should know better,
Speaker 3: there is only statements, pointed statements, no questions, go back
Speaker 3: and look, no questions. Whenever God talks to a spiritual entity,
Speaker 3: there's no questions.
Speaker 1: It's statements. He's he's speaking things.
Speaker 4: And they're talking harsh yes' final.
Speaker 3: So I mean you know this idea of like why
Speaker 3: would an all loving God allow for a planet that
Speaker 3: is filled with you know, rape and murder and all
Speaker 3: these terrible things. It's like he set a bunch of
Speaker 3: things into motion, and he gave us free will, and
Speaker 3: he went and he just let it all play out.
Speaker 3: And it's like there is a lot of different attributing factors,
Speaker 3: our own willingness to engage in self worship and sin
Speaker 3: instead of choosing God. But also there are these entities
Speaker 3: that he also gave some sort of high place to
Speaker 3: and then rebelled against him, and now they are all
Speaker 3: So it seems like we're the nature of God.
Speaker 4: You're what you're explaining the nature between God, big g
Speaker 4: God and these small g gods. What is the difference, Well,
Speaker 4: the difference would be that these things are not number one,
Speaker 4: not our creators.
Speaker 3: So that's that's like the the I do think they're
Speaker 3: capable of lying, and I do think that what they
Speaker 3: seek to do is to pervert, invert God's creation. If
Speaker 3: they can convince us that we were created as a
Speaker 3: slave race, it would answer a question why are we
Speaker 3: so unique here on this planet? But then it would
Speaker 3: also demoralize us, like, oh, we're not special, we're not
Speaker 3: meaningful whatsoever. We're actually just slave monkeys meant to harvest gold.
Speaker 3: But you know a lot of people, they'll they'll tell me,
Speaker 3: especially on Twitter, oh, you believe in your book and
Speaker 3: your religion, and you don't believe in the other ones.
Speaker 3: And it's like, no, I do believe in the other ones.
Speaker 3: I just think that they're missing some very important key details.
Speaker 3: Like I believe that the Vedics, you know, the the
Speaker 3: the Indian religions, are dealing with the real pantheon of
Speaker 3: blue gods with.
Speaker 1: Multiple arms and shit.
Speaker 3: I believe those entities exist, maybe used to be more physical,
Speaker 3: certainly do exist in.
Speaker 5: A few creation story. It is fucking wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, So, I mean, I think the same thing
Speaker 3: with the Greek pantheon. I think they exist. I think
Speaker 3: that they but you have the nature down. I don't
Speaker 3: think Zeus created us from clay. I think God created
Speaker 3: us from dust, and that Zeus is one of the fallen.
Speaker 4: So it's it's well, what does Zeus require from you?
Speaker 4: And what does God require?
Speaker 3: God sent his own son to die for you. All
Speaker 3: these other things require that you sacrifice to them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that is the key component that's missing with these other religions.
Speaker 1: They all need something for you. They're all harvesting humanity
Speaker 1: for somebody.
Speaker 5: You're saying this. I actually watched it was like a
Speaker 5: five minute YouTube video where it was like, all right,
Speaker 5: every religion on earth, if you were to line them up,
Speaker 5: and there's a mountain. The peak of this mountain is enlightenment, Heaven, Brahmud,
Speaker 5: the next out of the state of reincarnation, whatever, whatever
Speaker 5: you're trying to achieve. The pinnacle goal here is at
Speaker 5: the very peak of this mountain, and everybody take off.
Speaker 5: Christians are the only ones that would not step foot
Speaker 5: on the mountain because we know we will never get
Speaker 5: there on our own. It's impossible for us as humans
Speaker 5: to reach that tip the top of the mountain, no way.
Speaker 4: But they keep giving this original sin is yes, that's what.
Speaker 5: We're going into it. We don't have to teach a
Speaker 5: child how to lie, We don't have to have to
Speaker 5: teach a child how to steal. We have to teach
Speaker 5: him to tell the truth and be honest. That's indicative.
Speaker 5: That's human nature that's built into us. It's okay, God
Speaker 5: knows he made us that way, but we also accept
Speaker 5: that that sacrifice that is not asked of us was
Speaker 5: already paid.
Speaker 3: So I think what we're seeing here when it comes
Speaker 3: to other religions and Christianity, they're all telling the same story,
Speaker 3: but there is a lie that it hinges upon that
Speaker 3: comes from these other things, and you know it's it's
Speaker 3: really a tale as old as time. If they're going
Speaker 3: to roll out disclosure and they're going to show us
Speaker 3: some you know what we.
Speaker 4: Came here to talk about Cliff High December third disclosure.
Speaker 4: So this is the part I guess the las.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: So yeah, let's say that we are moving towards disclosure.
Speaker 3: Our own government is going to reveal to us that
Speaker 3: there is some sort of exterior entity outside of humanity
Speaker 3: and it's playing a role one way or another. Well,
Speaker 3: what do we have that gives us some idea about
Speaker 3: what they might be saying? We only have Hollywood, right
Speaker 3: whatever Hollywood's told us that these things are because otherwise
Speaker 3: it's been obfuscated and hidden and kind of lied about.
Speaker 3: But we all have this narrative that we're pretty comfortable
Speaker 3: with as far as like, are potentially benign space brothers
Speaker 3: come to stop us from mutually assured nuclear destruction. Maybe
Speaker 3: they seem to have a real interest in nuclear facilities.
Speaker 3: Right now, you have this drone incursion over Picatinny Arsenal
Speaker 3: for the nuclear facilities in New Jersey. If that does
Speaker 3: go where this guy that I mentioned, Cliff High says
Speaker 3: that it's going we might be seeing that soon.
Speaker 5: And it was a spiritual thing.
Speaker 3: There's it's a complex thing, right, the Aloheim worship could
Speaker 3: that's what he calls the Jews.
Speaker 1: He calls the Jews, the Yelo.
Speaker 5: The drones.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was no, no, no, well, you know, drones,
Speaker 1: the drones.
Speaker 4: The drones are a precursor. So like again the day
Speaker 4: of Bohemian Grove. The first day Trump goes on Rogan's show,
Speaker 4: there's an interview. That is the temporal marker that web
Speaker 4: bot predicted. It scrapes internet for predictive linguistics, and it
Speaker 4: turned out that result in two thousand and nine. He
Speaker 4: didn't know where to put it. I showed you the
Speaker 4: picture of the remote viewer that did the drawing. He
Speaker 4: thought it was happening in twenty twenty with the Biden debate.
Speaker 4: Didn't happen. Turns out it happened in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: That's the temporal market in marker in which thirty nine
Speaker 4: days later will be shifting into something cold sci fi world,
Speaker 4: and that will be marked by something cold that he's
Speaker 4: describing as a melee in the skies, and that's popping
Speaker 4: off at December third. Was there a melee in the
Speaker 4: sky's December third? No, But on December third, I can
Speaker 4: go back to my messages when David was texting me,
Speaker 4: sending me videos of drones or he was calling them.
Speaker 4: We were calling them UFOs right away over his hometown
Speaker 4: in New Jersey. He's getting the shit from Facebook. So
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, there's something in the sky. So something
Speaker 4: popped off December third when this guy said it would happen,
Speaker 4: and here we are. I think we're on the brink
Speaker 4: of it. They've already given orders. They're like, shoot these
Speaker 4: things down. So there's your melee in the skuis And
Speaker 4: melee is defined as uh.
Speaker 1: I actually have the definition here top. If you haven't
Speaker 1: put it, please please.
Speaker 5: Do because this have y'all heard the new weapon system
Speaker 5: America's developed. Now tell me the definition of melee real quick.
Speaker 3: Well, this is going to be I don't think this
Speaker 3: is going to be playing necessarily into what you're alluding to.
Speaker 3: But Cliff High this is his given definition of melee.
Speaker 3: So it's not the actual definition of the word, it's
Speaker 3: his given one. When command is absent within active contention.
Speaker 3: So something is happening. There's contention happening, but there's no
Speaker 3: command structure, and that results in individuated decisions, individuals calling
Speaker 3: shots where there is no boss above them, and that
Speaker 3: produces chaos. So essentially, you've chopped the head of the
Speaker 3: control structure off and nobody is answering to anybody. There's
Speaker 3: contingency plans, there's all kinds of people trying to fill
Speaker 3: that power vacuum, and they're just pulling triggers and that's
Speaker 3: causing chaos.
Speaker 5: Gentlemen, gentlemen, buckle in, brace yourselves, because I don't think
Speaker 5: that could have been laid out any more perfect. Now again, yeah,
Speaker 5: for two seconds, two seconds remove extra entities and glowing
Speaker 5: orbs for just two seconds. I'm not denying that they're there.
Speaker 5: But this also could be something that the American government's
Speaker 5: developing for that maybe you just hear me out. They
Speaker 5: have just successfully test fired the newest bomb and I
Speaker 5: couldn't tell you the name. It's the XR numbers and
Speaker 5: letters and stupid. Yeah, basically, what this is is a
Speaker 5: bomb that is gonna be able to be dropped from
Speaker 5: either a B fifty two or from a fighter that
Speaker 5: once it drops, it expands to like five to ten
Speaker 5: different drones that are all now on a kamikaze mission,
Speaker 5: geared by AI to attack whatever the fuck that plane
Speaker 5: just told it to attack. So we have aeronautic combat
Speaker 5: devoid of command that was sent at one point in time,
Speaker 5: but once it drops the bomb, those drones are doing
Speaker 5: the the drone shit right, So that could be used
Speaker 5: to take out swarms of drones, could be used to
Speaker 5: take out another fighter, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 5: could be for whatever reason. But seeing us how the
Speaker 5: United States just developed a brand new bomb that apparently
Speaker 5: like it's not something threw together in their basement. They've
Speaker 5: been working on this shit for a while, apparently, as
Speaker 5: if they knew that drone swarming was gonna be a
Speaker 5: thing one day.
Speaker 3: By the way, Eli Musk tweeted about that like two
Speaker 3: years ago. He said, the future coming drone wars are
Speaker 3: going to blow people's minds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that tracks though, Jacob, That sound like aeronautic melee
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And this is the thing is like it is extraterrestrial,
Speaker 4: it is, but it is also governmental. If you look
Speaker 4: back to when we experienced these the alien phenomenon. It's
Speaker 4: it was like fifty seven Roswell the nuclear era. All
Speaker 4: the time around military basis. Whenever there's like a I
Speaker 4: had n't pulled up before, but there's instances of possible
Speaker 4: nuclear war where someone's going to press a button and
Speaker 4: it's like, for at least four instance is where the
Speaker 4: weaponry has been shut down in some form or fashion
Speaker 4: by UFO, and that's just documented, that's Project Blue Book.
Speaker 1: So I thought that the UFO armed it. Oh, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was messing with it, for sure.
Speaker 3: It was like that video where it like shoots a
Speaker 3: laser beam, like it shoots a beam at at the weapon.
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't like this sort of language
Speaker 3: because one element to this drone incursion that is becoming
Speaker 3: pretty prominent is the idea that there there is missing
Speaker 3: radioactive material. Nuclear material of some variety came into Newark Port.
Speaker 3: The shipping container was damaged, opened, and the radioactive material
Speaker 3: was missing. And people in the know that are in
Speaker 3: the military say that from their standpoint, the drones appear
Speaker 3: to be looking for something, and are they using a
Speaker 3: sort of radar that doesn't require daylight? Right, So whatever
Speaker 3: they're searching for it's not just on a basic optics
Speaker 3: it's some sort of a radar. They're searching for traces
Speaker 3: of something. Butotentially they don't need to operate during the
Speaker 3: daytime for this, and so all the occursions are happening
Speaker 3: at night. I mean, there is some that happened in
Speaker 3: the daytime, but there's also hoaxes.
Speaker 5: It's bipartisan. That's why it's so nerve wracking. Both sides
Speaker 5: of the aisle, regardless of whatever, are all in on.
Speaker 5: It's just going with the narrative. There's nobody at the
Speaker 5: top questioning it. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're I don't think that it
Speaker 2: is a hoax though. I think that that story actually
Speaker 2: is right, that the drones are trying to track something,
Speaker 2: because if you go back to the story.
Speaker 5: The cover ups by parts and not the hoax.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, but if you go back to the story.
Speaker 1: Have you guys followed Chris Bledsoe. No, I'm not familiar
Speaker 1: with him.
Speaker 2: So he wrote a book that's well, that's the name
Speaker 2: of his son's podcast is called Bledsoe said so, But
Speaker 2: if you Chris Bledsoe his dad, he wrote a book
Speaker 2: called The Ufo of God and basically like what all
Speaker 2: these people are seeing, like all these orbs and everything
Speaker 2: in the sky. Now that shit was happening to him
Speaker 2: like twelve fourteen, fifteen years ago, and he like, I
Speaker 2: guess he got a story from this entity that came
Speaker 2: down in one of these orbs and told him like
Speaker 2: a prophecy of something that was getting ready to happen.
Speaker 2: And that prophecy was that towards the end I think
Speaker 2: it was the end of twenty twenty four, literally, that
Speaker 2: there would be something that would that would be happening
Speaker 2: on the East coast, that there could be some kind
Speaker 2: of chemical or some kind of weapon of mass destruction
Speaker 2: that would be coming here and that that would happen.
Speaker 2: But also the orbs, the entities whatever he was speaking with,
Speaker 2: that they would be there to prevent some kind of
Speaker 2: weird outbreak.
Speaker 1: And it, dude, it matches up.
Speaker 3: That's the thing that makes me afraid, Jonathan, because I'm like,
Speaker 3: you create its problem reaction solution, right, uh Agilian dialect.
Speaker 1: And well, he believes that it is.
Speaker 2: God, though I will say that like he believes that
Speaker 2: he's convers he is a he's a Christian bab.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that has a book called Ufo of
Speaker 4: God because I'm like looking to this Twitter y.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh he's been on Fox News before. Dude, Chris Bless
Speaker 5: that has been around shows.
Speaker 3: Fucking dude, Baba who is that? Like babushka old psychic lady.
Speaker 3: She died a long time ago, but she's famous for
Speaker 3: predicting nine to eleven the death of Princess Diana. She
Speaker 3: also successfully predicted her own death down to the day.
Speaker 3: She predicted that we were going to have alien contact
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. Alice Bailey, in conjunction with the
Speaker 3: works of Helena Blovotsky, came to the conclusion that twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five was going to be the beginning of a
Speaker 3: golden Age, which is interesting because that's the same language
Speaker 3: that Trump is used recently to talk about what's coming.
Speaker 3: Says that twenty twenty five AD is going to serve
Speaker 3: as the age of Aquarius, which, if you're paying attention
Speaker 3: to you know, people who are steeped in the occult, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the Age of Aquarius has been on the horizon for
Speaker 3: some time. But also that this moment in time twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five would be marked by the return of Christ.
Speaker 3: Somewhere after twenty twenty five. There are a lot of
Speaker 3: people that are predicting that twenty twenty five is going
Speaker 3: to be of some sort of consequence two thousand and
Speaker 3: nine or two thousand and eight in FBI, guy I
Speaker 3: don't know, is some sort of whistleblower is interviewed. I
Speaker 3: got to find the video on it, but he's basically
Speaker 3: saying that this whole alien discussion, he's saying this back
Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight or two thousand and nine
Speaker 3: is going to come to a head and finally be
Speaker 3: revealed in twenty twenty five. So I don't know the
Speaker 3: exact nature of these things. I have some ideas.
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about the Hegelian dialect, this idea
Speaker 3: of like creating a problem, waiting for the public to
Speaker 3: clamor for a solution, and then providing one to them.
Speaker 3: Cliff High, the guy who has this predictive program, says
Speaker 3: that there's going to be two elements of UFOs involved
Speaker 3: in this. There's going to be a human element drones,
Speaker 3: and there's going to be two alien factions. One of
Speaker 3: them is good and one of them is bad. And
Speaker 3: the bad ones, he said, are likely going to be
Speaker 3: the grays. And what I find significant about that is,
Speaker 3: I think the grays or are automatons. I think there
Speaker 3: are biologics, they're biomechanics. They're not real, they don't have
Speaker 3: reproductive organs, they don't have emotions. I think they might
Speaker 3: be suitable for spiritual entities to inhabit to some degree,
Speaker 3: to be able to execute physical jobs within our realm.
Speaker 3: But I think that that's pretty much where the buck
Speaker 3: stops from them. They're just automatons. What would be fascinating
Speaker 3: is if we do have the good aliens destroy the automatons, who,
Speaker 3: by the way, we would never accept as saviors because
Speaker 3: why do they take us against our will in the
Speaker 3: middle of the night, Why do they experiment on us,
Speaker 3: Why do they, you know, abduct people who seemingly never
Speaker 3: come back.
Speaker 1: There's all these horror stories. People are not pumped about abductions,
Speaker 1: so especially from their aliens.
Speaker 3: Right, so we would never have accepted them as good guys.
Speaker 3: What if you had these things that belonged to you,
Speaker 3: that executed all the shit that is your will, but
Speaker 3: never seeing you do that. They only the humans only
Speaker 3: see the grays do it. What if You then destroyed
Speaker 3: the Grays and said, look, we killed the bad guys.
Speaker 3: We're here to help you, not only from them, but
Speaker 3: also to stop this nuclear thing. We could be By
Speaker 3: the way, Cliff thinks that after this happens, all the
Speaker 3: world religions are going to fall away and consolidate under this,
Speaker 3: like alien religion. I can't really think of a more
Speaker 3: impactful thing that you could do to the public. It's
Speaker 3: like you pull the veil back. There are aliens, there
Speaker 3: are bad aliens.
Speaker 1: We're on the cusp of nuclear war. Everything is chaos.
Speaker 1: Who saves us? These guys?
Speaker 3: What do they do?
Speaker 1: They then give us zero point technology. They then help
Speaker 1: us to you know, elevate.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys have ever seen Childhood's End,
Speaker 3: where basically aliens show up. They hang out in the
Speaker 3: skies for some time. They tell us that they're here
Speaker 3: wishing us well. Everything's good. They give us technology and
Speaker 3: new systems. We live in a utopia. They will not
Speaker 3: show themselves to us until a promised date years in
Speaker 3: the future. And when they finally do show themselves to us,
Speaker 3: they look like fucking Satan, you know, so big greasy
Speaker 3: red demons with horns and shit. And I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that that's what's going to happen here, but we would,
Speaker 3: especially at this point in the game, everything is so
Speaker 3: full of turmoil and uncertainty. If you dial that up
Speaker 3: any more, and you gave us real shit to fear
Speaker 3: on a real horizon that's in the near future, and
Speaker 3: then we had this savior force roll in.
Speaker 1: I hope to God that's not what we're rolling towards,
Speaker 1: because it would work so well.
Speaker 2: Isn't that But isn't that exactly what happened around like
Speaker 2: kind of like it rhymes a little bit what happened
Speaker 2: like two thousand years ago, right like, there seemed to
Speaker 2: be some kind of entity that came from the sky
Speaker 2: or the heavens, and there was some kind of savior
Speaker 2: that brought everybody together.
Speaker 1: Right like, it seems like the story is repeating.
Speaker 3: You'll get these elements if you look at this long
Speaker 3: enough and you believe, if you look at things through
Speaker 3: the lens of these entities are real and they are
Speaker 3: the fallen, you'll notice what they like to do. And
Speaker 3: what they like to do is take things that are
Speaker 3: God's laws and principles and flip them on their head.
Speaker 4: So at the beginning of at the beginning of the Tribulation,
Speaker 4: which is a kind of like when all this stuff
Speaker 4: is going to pop off, they're going to erect that
Speaker 4: Third Temple, and that's when they'll start some forms of
Speaker 4: sacrifice which were specifically asked to not happen anymore after
Speaker 4: the New Covenant. So this is again it's like, what
Speaker 4: are they gonna ask me? And Jesus asked for you
Speaker 4: to worship, but he doesn't ask for your sacrifice. He
Speaker 4: did that for you, So it's like it again, it's
Speaker 4: this is the complete opposite.
Speaker 5: But go ahead, look at Hitler's Germany as far as
Speaker 5: what would happen if okay, Germany was in shambles, no answer.
Speaker 5: There's this one dude that was saying a lot of
Speaker 5: really powerful shit and he got people on their side.
Speaker 5: Next thing, you know, we have an entire occult following
Speaker 5: and they're trying to take over the world. Right, Okay,
Speaker 5: in the end times, we're gonna have one world government,
Speaker 5: one world currency, one world religion. What do y'all think now,
Speaker 5: For the longest time, humans have thought that that meant
Speaker 5: nuclear war and from the ashes there's gonna be a
Speaker 5: slave and a master type of dynamic or they thought
Speaker 5: it something along those lines. But is it crazy to
Speaker 5: think that some at least letting us believe that they
Speaker 5: are aliens comes down, sets up themselves to be the
Speaker 5: hierarchy here gives us technology. Now all countries answer to them.
Speaker 5: We no longer have borders because it's no longer our land.
Speaker 5: We are completely under them here because without them, we
Speaker 5: wouldn't be doing anything we're doing. Cut to a couple
Speaker 5: of decades down the road. We only are accepting alien dollars.
Speaker 5: We're only speaking alien language. We're only talking about the
Speaker 5: alien holidays because American culture is so antiquated. Dude, are
Speaker 5: you kidding?
Speaker 4: Jacob?
Speaker 5: Let me talk in the Red, White, and Blue bro
Speaker 5: caw Is twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Geez. So here's what web bot predicts about sci Fi World,
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Speaker 4: introducing sci fi World. Sci Fi World entails introduction of
Speaker 4: zero point energy, an intergalactic network. So the concept it's
Speaker 4: like a concept of a cosmic web or the Akashik records.
Speaker 1: Have you ever hearch is the galactic Federation of Light.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this shit, this s gay shit. This is what
Speaker 4: it's introducing, and most importantly, the revival of an ancient,
Speaker 4: ancient language. And it goes as far as to deduce
Speaker 4: that the name of the language is going to be
Speaker 4: Hurrian or something like it, which is a near Near
Speaker 4: Eastern language that's tied to metaphysical understanding. It's modern day Turkey.
Speaker 3: If you look at in a Nocchian But yeah, it's
Speaker 3: if you look at it up, it's on like uniform tablets.
Speaker 3: It's like that old kind of a deal. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that's just to me, it feels like that's
Speaker 3: right on the horizon. And you know what's interesting, It's
Speaker 3: like I just listed all these people, right, Alice Bailey
Speaker 3: and Helena Blovotsky and Donald Trump is saying we're going
Speaker 3: towards a golden age, and all these people are predicting
Speaker 3: something for the year twenty twenty five. It doesn't matter
Speaker 3: where you come from. If it's Christian, or it's narcissism,
Speaker 3: or it's you know, some other form of everything is
Speaker 3: kind of pointing to like this moment as being something
Speaker 3: really significant. And I recognize that I've I've been a
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorists for a long time. There are certain moments
Speaker 3: coming past everybody drink. I've been since I was sixteen
Speaker 3: years old. There are certain moments that come in past, right,
Speaker 3: Like twenty twelve was a big one. We were all
Speaker 3: kind of hype focused in on that, or like the
Speaker 3: Y two K scandal, there's, yeah, twenty But there's something
Speaker 3: about this moment where, like it's not just chatter on
Speaker 3: the Internet, it's like historical you know, people in the
Speaker 3: no mystics throughout time all pointing to this one moment,
Speaker 3: and not only pointing to this one moment, but they're
Speaker 3: all saying something very similar about aliens, potentially aliens, the
Speaker 3: return of Christ, this Golden Age, the age of Aquarius.
Speaker 1: Like this is it's a very pivotalle something very pevotal
Speaker 1: moment there.
Speaker 3: Yes, And that's the other thing too, Yeah, the Caliyuga,
Speaker 3: which by the way, is supposed to end by fire.
Speaker 3: It's a spiritual and intellectual low point that we're in.
Speaker 3: Yuga just means age Collie is a vaded god, but
Speaker 3: it ends by fire, which is interesting because in the
Speaker 3: Bible it says that when God judges the world, it
Speaker 3: won't be by water again, he promised not to do
Speaker 3: that next time, it will be by fire. So I
Speaker 3: think a lot of these things are all pointing to
Speaker 3: the same exact moment. But once again, it's like the
Speaker 3: nature of the moment is the most important thing. We're
Speaker 3: going to go through something, and depending on what your
Speaker 3: point of view is, it will vindicate your beliefs. That's
Speaker 3: what's really fascinating about this time that we're in. It
Speaker 3: has this ability to vindicate your beliefs if you are
Speaker 3: well read enough, because I think a lot of casual
Speaker 3: Christians are going to fall away, a lot of them.
Speaker 3: A lot of casual Muslims are going to fall away
Speaker 3: because they don't have you know, we have extra canonical
Speaker 3: texts that give us all this extra potentiality. It's not
Speaker 3: something that you should put all your stock in, but
Speaker 3: it does give you a lot of interesting things that
Speaker 3: you On my viewpoint as a Christian, which is a
Speaker 3: non religious Christian, I don't go to church. I think
Speaker 3: that the church has dropped the ball in many ways.
Speaker 3: I don't feel uncomfortable with this at all. We were
Speaker 3: able to see this coming and it never jived or
Speaker 3: fucked up anything that I suspected was true.
Speaker 1: It all kind of goes along. So I think this
Speaker 1: will be the truth for a lot of people. The
Speaker 1: only thing is is the nature of it.
Speaker 4: Well, there's only one truth, right, There's like there's ultimately
Speaker 4: this is not like a postmodern idea.
Speaker 5: That's why so many people disagree with you, bro that
Speaker 5: there's not just one truth. I mean, it's well, the problem.
Speaker 1: Is is there's not just one truth. If you think
Speaker 1: that things that rhyme with the truth are the truth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, something is more true than than the other though.
Speaker 4: I so, yeah, these things can be true, and I'll
Speaker 4: grant people this all day long, but there's one thing
Speaker 4: that is more true than the other. And we're at
Speaker 4: We've been scraping and searching for that thing. I think
Speaker 4: we found it. Some people disagree, and that's fine, but
Speaker 4: we're I'm still continuing to look, and the more we
Speaker 4: continue to look, the closer I get to what I
Speaker 4: think is the truth. And that just happens to be God.
Speaker 4: So that's like that's where this is leading me.
Speaker 5: Right, But those ultimate truth though, because like two fighters
Speaker 5: enter the ring believing they are the champion, there is
Speaker 5: going to be one of them that is more true
Speaker 5: than the other.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that that doesn't feel right.
Speaker 2: But up until up and till that point, everybody, it
Speaker 2: is all just belief, and there is no way of
Speaker 2: absolutely knowing, Like there's faith, there's belief, right, Like you
Speaker 2: can put your faith in your belief into certain religious
Speaker 2: understandings and philosophies and stuff like that, but it is
Speaker 2: you have to understand, like there's a difference between having
Speaker 2: faith and like almost seeing it as absolutely real. Like
Speaker 2: I understand the concept of faith. I have faith and
Speaker 2: a lot of shit, but like there is a concept
Speaker 2: of faith that almost allows you to believe that it
Speaker 2: actually is real until something else happens that then you
Speaker 2: might change your faith. But I think that faith faith
Speaker 2: in fact, they don't always coincide, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 5: Find facts, you should change your faith, you should you
Speaker 5: should adjust your belief based off of things that you
Speaker 5: find along the way, which.
Speaker 3: By the way, to that point, like I said, I've
Speaker 3: been doing this for a long time. I was not
Speaker 3: religious at all. I wasn't raised religious. I wasn't introduced
Speaker 3: to Christianity as a child. Thereby I had no baggage.
Speaker 4: I was kicked out of the last church that I
Speaker 4: went to for my backstory, but go ahead, Dave Sollow.
Speaker 3: Well, I was just saying that when I got to
Speaker 3: probably about thirty years old, I had an experience like
Speaker 3: a spiritual one, as a very negative one, but it
Speaker 3: allowed me, or rather it didn't allow me to suspect
Speaker 3: that the spiritual realm was real. I was concrete in
Speaker 3: that I was made definitively aware that there are entities.
Speaker 3: And then what that did and said, if there's one
Speaker 3: side of the coin that is these negative entities, then
Speaker 3: maybe the other side of the coin is these positive entities.
Speaker 1: And the way that I got this to go away
Speaker 1: was by calling on Christ.
Speaker 3: And so I understand that within the gnostic not even
Speaker 3: necessarily gnostic, but occult studies, this idea of an aggregor exists,
Speaker 3: the idea that you could put so much faith in
Speaker 3: something that it could defend you potentially from these other
Speaker 3: things that seemingly exist but.
Speaker 1: Aren't independent of your own fear of awareness.
Speaker 3: I do think that there's a lot of truth to that,
Speaker 3: but there are really important details that need to be examined.
Speaker 3: And so what happened is I wouldn't allow myself to
Speaker 3: treat Jesus Christ as not a real man. And because
Speaker 3: of that, I felt indebted to him for having saved
Speaker 3: me and my family from this experience. And that created
Speaker 3: a sort of a loyalty in me where I decided
Speaker 3: to as as somebody who's been doing this. The Bible's
Speaker 3: always been there, but I've not really given it the
Speaker 3: do that it deserves. And honestly, for me, for my
Speaker 3: half of Nephluin Death Squad, you are watching me in
Speaker 3: real time, give the Bible it's due, to give it
Speaker 3: a fair look with no bias, no cultural loaded shit
Speaker 3: where I'm like.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, Christianity is this, or Christianity is that.
Speaker 3: I recognize that here in America you can get on stage,
Speaker 3: put a mic in your hand and dunk on Jesus
Speaker 3: Christ to the sound of a round of applause. So
Speaker 3: I recognize I don't need to do any ridiculing here
Speaker 3: that's already been done. Let me just look at this
Speaker 3: thing as I would look at any other information. And
Speaker 3: starting at thirty years old, for the past four years now,
Speaker 3: it's just been vindication after vindication after vindication. And what's
Speaker 3: crazy is all my previous years of being a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 1: Play in perfectly.
Speaker 3: Yes, there is these concerns do get addressed, these weird
Speaker 3: spiritual principles, all this occulted information. It is addressed if
Speaker 3: you don't look at it in the very gay, truncated
Speaker 3: version that you get from the church where it's just
Speaker 3: like be as Jesus and pay your tithes and show
Speaker 3: up on Sunday and be a good Christian. That is
Speaker 3: not at all what I do. And so I have
Speaker 3: found that it's very much like a key, like you
Speaker 3: would have a legend, and that legend allows you to
Speaker 3: understand a map. This is so integral to understanding all
Speaker 3: all the conspiracies and all the spiritual shit that we
Speaker 3: go through. And I just want to say, for a dismount,
Speaker 3: there are a lot of things that you learn within narcissism,
Speaker 3: within the different occult aspects. And you're researching this person
Speaker 3: and Alice Bailey and Alister Crawley and all these different things,
Speaker 3: and you don't have to throw that away. You'll find
Speaker 3: that it actually plays very well with what the Bible
Speaker 3: says and that you can start to flesh out a
Speaker 3: much larger picture, where where previously I had chunks of
Speaker 3: the puzzle that were no longer, that weren't connected to
Speaker 3: each other. Yet, the Bible was that connective tissue. It
Speaker 3: brought all of it together. I was not a lifelong Christian.
Speaker 3: I was a lifelong conspiracy theorist. That's totally different, and
Speaker 3: I still am. I didn't have to throw anything away.
Speaker 2: Hey, I can appreciate that. I mean, I'm not a Christian,
Speaker 2: but I can appreciate, like I understand that there is
Speaker 2: a lot to be had, Like there's a lot to
Speaker 2: gain from devoting your life to Jesus, Like you see
Speaker 2: it all throughout. How many different testimonies do you need
Speaker 2: to hear? Like it absolutely changes peace people's lives whenever
Speaker 2: you completely, you know, devote yourself to something like that.
Speaker 3: And and so I don't.
Speaker 2: I never, you know, I never try to dunk on
Speaker 2: Christianity or anything like that. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 2: fuck with Jacob from time to time with it, but
Speaker 2: it's all in good love territory, you know. But I'm
Speaker 2: happy that you found that, dude. I'm happy that you're
Speaker 2: looking at it, and and it does really all play
Speaker 2: into it. I'm happy, you know, you brought in the
Speaker 2: gnosticism and the the occult and all that stuff, and
Speaker 2: you're really just looking at it for what it is.
Speaker 2: Because there are different perspectives that view the world in
Speaker 2: very different ways. And if you're just a Christian and
Speaker 2: you can't you know, compare and contrast a little bit
Speaker 2: with other people's beliefs, then you're really only ever going
Speaker 2: to have one perspective. And that one perspective might get
Speaker 2: you to the end zone, but it's going to be
Speaker 2: You're gonna be fumbling and bumbling, you know, just like
Speaker 2: fucking John Madden was saying the whole way.
Speaker 1: And it's good to really like know the enemy.
Speaker 2: If you believe that all the Gnostics and all the
Speaker 2: occults and all the witchcraft and all the say you know,
Speaker 2: the Satanic and LUCIFERI and all that shit, if you yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that it could it could work.
Speaker 1: And so I get it.
Speaker 3: This is going to be a total retards version of
Speaker 3: what I'm about to say, but it's the only one
Speaker 3: I have to offer. It's almost like Jesus Christ was
Speaker 3: wiping the slate clean. It was like a cheat code
Speaker 3: it was like, so these entities, ourselves and these other
Speaker 3: things we have free will, they integrated with us. They fell,
Speaker 3: and the world became incredibly messy. And there might have
Speaker 3: even been a time in the past where these studies
Speaker 3: of certain things is you know how now Christians would
Speaker 3: be like, don't look at astrology, don't look at numerology,
Speaker 3: don't look at these things.
Speaker 1: They're of the devil. I don't think that's true.
Speaker 3: I think it might be.
Speaker 5: Sure there's a Satanic cult that's following a certain star
Speaker 5: for a certain reason.
Speaker 3: Sure, fine, right, right, But what I'm saying is that
Speaker 3: they don't have the ability to create. They only have
Speaker 3: the ability to invert. And I think what's happened is
Speaker 3: they have inverted and perverted all of these systems that
Speaker 3: we would call magic if we got a good look
Speaker 3: at them. And they've been around forever, and we probably
Speaker 3: used to use them to a large degree. Everything got
Speaker 3: incredibly messy. And the Amish see electricity as witchcraft.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: And we just did a story on we just did
Speaker 3: an episode on on the Mormons, and you know, they're
Speaker 3: basically like, it's like Christian mysticism, not the Mormons.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the Latter day Saints. Is that the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in many ways they're they're dealing with like
Speaker 3: they're dealing with the Philosopher's Stone and all this other
Speaker 3: crazy they're.
Speaker 5: Like, now, Christian fanfic that went way to far.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I do think that I think a
Speaker 3: lot of these things do exist, but we're retarded, Like
Speaker 3: human beings are so fucking retarded. And I think that
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ was a simplification. It's like, look, the path
Speaker 3: to heaven, the path to getting back into God's good graces,
Speaker 3: has become so convoluted and so messy. We were given
Speaker 3: this one clear cut path. Believe that he came and
Speaker 3: he died for your sins, and he is the way
Speaker 3: to the Father.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 4: It's actually it's actually quite comical. Like if you do
Speaker 4: read the Bible through the Old Testament, it's like God's
Speaker 4: like a god, these people retarded. I gotta kick him out.
Speaker 4: And then he's like, well, I'll just give you, like
Speaker 4: here here's some guidance, and they're like, nah, you fuck
Speaker 4: that up. Here's here's some rules. You fuck that up.
Speaker 4: I put him on stone. You got it wrong again.
Speaker 4: Here's the book of Deuteronomy got it wrong, and then
Speaker 4: you're like, you know what, I'm just gonna really boil
Speaker 4: this down for you, like my son, he's got to die.
Speaker 4: That's how dumb you are and super simple, like real shit.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't just the Jews, although yeah, the story
Speaker 5: center around them, but like equate that to any group
Speaker 5: of humans ever. If they get hooked up and they
Speaker 5: get really wealthy, really powerful, whatever, they make it fuck
Speaker 5: up and they crumble. Every civilization has gone up, up, up,
Speaker 5: fucked up? How did you wrong?
Speaker 1: Put you?
Speaker 3: You don't put your faith in man because it's what
Speaker 3: we do over and over again. So I do think that,
Speaker 3: like you don't have to throw out all this stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't agree in practicing it.
Speaker 3: But it's like you think that, uh, Pythagoras, when he
Speaker 3: came to the idea that like this entire realm could
Speaker 3: boiled down to numbers, that that was nonsense. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's nonsense. I also don't think it's indicative of
Speaker 3: like simulation theory either. Simulation theory pisses me off because
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, because of our limited ability to create
Speaker 3: games like Fortnite, we can recognize that the way in
Speaker 3: which we manipulate code almost mirrors itself in this realm
Speaker 3: that we inhabit thereby in our like this grand video game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in our grand understanding of things, this must be just
Speaker 3: like Fortnite. This must be a simulation. So you mean
Speaker 3: to tell me that this realm was created and that
Speaker 3: that insinuates as there's a creator. No, shit, that's been
Speaker 3: what Christianity is telling you for the longest time. That
Speaker 3: this is not the last place that we're going to be.
Speaker 3: There is something beyond this, and this realm seems to
Speaker 3: be I would agree with people who suggest it's like
Speaker 3: a it's like a proving ground. You know, we're here
Speaker 3: to suss things out, to develop, to make decisions, to
Speaker 3: have the free will to make decisions. I don't think
Speaker 3: that when we die, we experience like ego death and
Speaker 3: we return to a central consciousness. I don't think that
Speaker 3: God gave us the diversity that we have from one
Speaker 3: person to another. I think we retain a lot of
Speaker 3: who we are and we go to some other place
Speaker 3: and we still proceed as individuals. But to reduce it
Speaker 3: to something that resembles grant that thought, oh five, because
Speaker 3: we can make grant that thought O. Five is like,
Speaker 3: it's just limited human beings using limited language once again
Speaker 3: to describe something that's above and beyond. But simulation theory
Speaker 3: gives you the air of arrogance, of intellectual you know,
Speaker 3: achievement that you figured it all out. It's like, no, dude,
Speaker 3: that's reductive.
Speaker 2: You could actually say, but you see the number sequences
Speaker 2: you still I'm not saying that's wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that to call it simulation theory sounds
Speaker 3: so reductive.
Speaker 4: It is. It is, though, because it is all frequency
Speaker 4: and vibration. I mean, like this this desk is vibrating
Speaker 4: at a certain frequency in order for it to become solid.
Speaker 4: So this is like numbers attached to this. But it's
Speaker 4: so like he's saying, to deduce it, like to reduce
Speaker 4: it down to a video game is ridiculous. There's a creator.
Speaker 4: There is a pattern to how shit is made.
Speaker 3: And I think it's like if the Bible attributes a
Speaker 3: personality set to God and says that God created this
Speaker 3: entire thing and created us and this is why we're
Speaker 3: here in YadA YadA, YadA, and you look at that
Speaker 3: and you go, no, very gay, And then you look
Speaker 3: over to simulation serie that says the same thing out
Speaker 3: of Stephen Hawking's mouth, and you're like, that is the way,
Speaker 3: you know, And it's like, we still don't have a
Speaker 3: grasp on it. But it's funny because that story has
Speaker 3: already been told for a long time and we just
Speaker 3: reinvent shit.
Speaker 1: There's nothing new under the sun?
Speaker 3: Can I we name it something different and then we
Speaker 3: claim intellectual superiority, you know, having identified it, it's fucking retarded.
Speaker 1: Can I ask y'all something have?
Speaker 2: Have y'all ever worked at like a like a local restaurant,
Speaker 2: not like a big chain, but like a local restaurant,
Speaker 2: a local store, anything that was local that had like
Speaker 2: an owner and then a general manager and then you know,
Speaker 2: assistant managers and shit like that. Right, Well I did.
Speaker 2: I worked at this place called Rittolo's and it was
Speaker 2: in Prairieville. They had a couple of other stores, but
Speaker 2: it's mainly like a Louisiana pizza shop, right and.
Speaker 1: Right right, and every so.
Speaker 2: Often, I mean once in a blue moon, maybe once
Speaker 2: a year, you would see the owner come in and
Speaker 2: basically it was just there to lay down the law,
Speaker 2: like he didn't really appreciate all the good things you
Speaker 2: were doing, but he would jump your ass if you
Speaker 2: were doing something wrong, and it was kind of like,
Speaker 2: you know, it was like you grew to not like
Speaker 2: that person, so you you were you always. You would
Speaker 2: always keep in your mind, like God, I hope that
Speaker 2: I'm not here the day he comes back, you know.
Speaker 2: And but then you had your general managers and your
Speaker 2: assistant managers in your front of house and your back
Speaker 2: of house like leads and stuff like that. Then you
Speaker 2: just had the regular employees. And I feel like, just
Speaker 2: me personally, I feel like how religious people view the
Speaker 2: creator or God is kind of that owner that really
Speaker 2: only comes by every so often, and really whenever he
Speaker 2: comes around, it's it's kind of like you don't want
Speaker 2: to see that because then it's probably the end of
Speaker 2: the world and it's gonna be starting all over again.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be bringing her some kind of disease or
Speaker 2: great flood, or he's gonna kill a lot of people
Speaker 2: because you shouldn't have been doing it this kind of way.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that that's not necessarily correct. I
Speaker 2: don't want to I'm I don't agree with that. What
Speaker 2: I'm saying is that. I think that some people look
Speaker 2: at it like that, that there is some kind of overall,
Speaker 2: overarching kind of person that created this thing that is
Speaker 2: kind of in control but not really around very often.
Speaker 2: But then you know, you get into certain scripture and everything,
Speaker 2: and it says that, you know, God is the alpha
Speaker 2: in the omega, He's the beginning, he's the end, He's
Speaker 2: the omnipotent, omnipresent literally always around whatever you look at,
Speaker 2: whatever you see around you, also within you is God. Right,
Speaker 2: So it's not necessarily that owner that is only sometimes around.
Speaker 2: It's that literally, everything you see around here is God's creation.
Speaker 2: There is nothing that has ever existed that isn't God's creation.
Speaker 2: Can we agree on that, sure?
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: So why is it that we are trying to I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I just I question a lot of the understandings of
Speaker 2: God in saying that, like, oh, well, you know, he
Speaker 2: created us this way and then he had to kill
Speaker 2: his son, and he tried to he tried to, you know,
Speaker 2: tell you on the tablets, he tried to tell you
Speaker 2: through certain scripture, and you couldn't get it. Well, I mean,
Speaker 2: whose fault is it that were retarded in the first place?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Like, whose fault is it that, like we couldn't get
Speaker 2: it and that we had to go through all these
Speaker 2: things in the first place. Satan, That's Satan's fault. But
Speaker 2: also hold on, hold on, if God created everything, kind
Speaker 2: of created Satan too. And also I do want to
Speaker 2: point this out too, And I'm not chitting on the
Speaker 2: religion or anything. I'm just trying to show the different
Speaker 2: perspective here, the idea that demons could exist and Satan exists,
Speaker 2: and all these like very fucked up like biblical beings
Speaker 2: or titles or whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 1: They always all seemed to.
Speaker 2: Draw everybody back to the religion anyway, So you kind
Speaker 2: of could look at him as contractors for God, right,
Speaker 2: Like in a weird way. How many times have somebody
Speaker 2: been like, you know, they've been haunted by a demon,
Speaker 2: they had this weird, demonic fucking you know experience, and
Speaker 2: it's like, well, you know, you're kind of proving the point.
Speaker 2: And you know, whenever we had the Brian from the
Speaker 2: demon erasers on, he thought the same exact thing. He
Speaker 2: was like, like, all the actions that you're carrying out
Speaker 2: right now, it's only causing me to want to follow
Speaker 2: this religion more in the first place. So like all
Speaker 2: the good and all the bad, couldn't we just say
Speaker 2: that it's all God in the first place.
Speaker 5: So hold on now to your restaurant example, and it's
Speaker 5: going to tie into the point here. In high school,
Speaker 5: my first job, completely under the table, illegal as fuck,
Speaker 5: was at this place called Dutchess, Okay, great little steakhouse.
Speaker 5: The owner of it, mister dutch Okay solid. It was
Speaker 5: a bit of an asshole, but he ran a good
Speaker 5: kitchen and he could fucking grill the best steak I've
Speaker 5: ever had in my life, be honest with you. I
Speaker 5: was working there as a busboy, and in high school,
Speaker 5: I'm sixteen years old. I couldn't give a fuck less
Speaker 5: about anything because I'm a high school kid. And long
Speaker 5: story short, there was a night where I had something
Speaker 5: I had to do. I don't know the salads, trash dish,
Speaker 5: who fucking knows, right, but whatever the case was, it
Speaker 5: was subpar and it was under the standard, and he
Speaker 5: had said something to me about it, and it was
Speaker 5: he was being a dick about this. My response is
Speaker 5: what made him be a dick next okay, and he said, hey,
Speaker 5: you know how we do this here. I need you
Speaker 5: to make this better. And I said something along the
Speaker 5: lines of like, uh, I mean yeah, but I mean
Speaker 5: it's good and then like, what difference does it make?
Speaker 5: It's good enough? Son? That man snatched me by my
Speaker 5: collar brought me to the front of that restaurant and
Speaker 5: pointed the sign says whose name is on that fucking sign? Boy?
Speaker 5: And I said it's the Duchess. Is that Jacob's? Is
Speaker 5: that your shit? And I said, no, sir, He said
Speaker 5: that salad is at Dutchess. My name is on that
Speaker 5: fucking salad, not yours. You're gonna make it to standard
Speaker 5: or you're gonna get the fuck and it will bro
Speaker 5: I'm talking. It was my first proper ash chewing, which
Speaker 5: I needed and I deserved and I got. I got
Speaker 5: my peepy slide for that one.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 5: He actually docked my pay a little bit to make
Speaker 5: a point, but at the Christmas party actually gave it
Speaker 5: back because the whole thing. But it's other point. I
Speaker 5: take that to this realm. Okay, is this our world?
Speaker 5: This is God's fucking world. He made this shit. He
Speaker 5: told us a standard to keep. Now it's up to
Speaker 5: us if we want to keep this standard and keep
Speaker 5: these rules and do as he asks of us. Otherwise
Speaker 5: we can get the fuck because regardless, this is God's
Speaker 5: and that's just the way it is.
Speaker 4: The fact that he doesn't is it shows you like
Speaker 4: you're talking about like unending kindness, like like you know,
Speaker 4: if we want to attribute things like childhood cancer to him,
Speaker 4: it's like the fact that he's just smite you off
Speaker 4: the earth the second that you know, Billy Carson goes
Speaker 4: on talking shit about it.
Speaker 5: It's that I'm like, it's to further my point, the
Speaker 5: reason I didn't get fired because his son, little Dutch,
Speaker 5: stuck his neck out for me.
Speaker 1: Interesting, So to further my point, I do think.
Speaker 5: Almost like he gave us a pass on all the
Speaker 5: shit that he knows we're gonna do because we're that
Speaker 5: sixteen year old dumb ass. Yes, and he actually sent
Speaker 5: his son on behalf of us because he did it.
Speaker 5: We didn't ask our son. Thankfully, we don't need to
Speaker 5: have Jesus in that regard. He sent him to earth
Speaker 5: for us. We just have to acknowledge that and follow them.
Speaker 3: I would say too, that the point is that there's
Speaker 3: something else beyond this right, like this is important and
Speaker 3: the decisions that you make here are incredibly important. But
Speaker 3: you notice how what you do develops you spiritually in
Speaker 3: your personality. I don't think that there is I mean,
Speaker 3: maybe there is another way. Maybe we could have just
Speaker 3: been made, you know, perfect in our knowledge, in our wisdom.
Speaker 3: But instead he gave us the ability to develop as children,
Speaker 3: and I mean like children as we inhabit this realm. Right,
Speaker 3: It's like, ideally we are becoming what we're supposed to be,
Speaker 3: becoming wiser and better as human beings. I think we'll
Speaker 3: leave this place and for all the horror that we'll
Speaker 3: have seen, that'll kind of be extinguished once we realize like, oh,
Speaker 3: it is okay. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, but
Speaker 3: it is okay. And I think that where we go
Speaker 3: after this, we are going to retain a lot of
Speaker 3: the way we developed here, the lessons, the love that
Speaker 3: we developed. And I think that that is incredible that
Speaker 3: he gave us the ability to do this instead of
Speaker 3: just making us perfect, And he allowed us to crawl
Speaker 3: and then walk and then run and then develop into
Speaker 3: something and go through this fucking this epic saga. You know,
Speaker 3: this physical realm that we inhabit and the history that
Speaker 3: we developed as a human being, and also what's on
Speaker 3: the horizon, if we truly are going to see incredible
Speaker 3: things in our lifetime. I think we'll get to a
Speaker 3: place after this where it's like gratitude is going to
Speaker 3: be the only thing that we can express, like thank
Speaker 3: you for putting me in front of my wife and
Speaker 3: my son, and thank you for all the hard times
Speaker 3: but also the beautiful times, and thank you for allowing
Speaker 3: me to bear witness to this unbelievable shit as it unfolded.
Speaker 3: And then I think that's kind of just the beginning
Speaker 3: of another story.
Speaker 4: But it's like to go to a small story and
Speaker 4: I actually got to run in a minute. But for
Speaker 4: Bohemian Grove, that was a hard event to pull off.
Speaker 4: We had people, I mean so many people. Everything that
Speaker 4: could go wrong did go wrong. And there was a
Speaker 4: point like a week before, maybe two weeks before, I
Speaker 4: looked at David and I was like, I don't know
Speaker 4: if we should do this because at everything that I
Speaker 4: was doing, at every single point, there was resistance meeting
Speaker 4: me and it didn't make any sense. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, listen, I don't want to be the guy
Speaker 4: that says this is a spiritual attack, but like, my
Speaker 4: dog just died of a random heart cancer and this
Speaker 4: is a hell. I was like, this shit is like
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is out of control at this point.
Speaker 4: And I basically we were at the point where like
Speaker 4: we could cancel it, and we decided not to because
Speaker 4: I'm like, if we'd cancel it, we'll never do it,
Speaker 4: We'll never get around to doing this. And I think
Speaker 4: it's important to do for the community that we're trying
Speaker 4: to build and all that. But I said all that
Speaker 4: because after it was done, you know, no matter what
Speaker 4: the result, we did what we had to do. We
Speaker 4: had some audio issues, but I think everyone had a
Speaker 4: good time, and I'm like, I'm so glad I did it,
Speaker 4: and I think it was a bigger success than it
Speaker 4: actually probably was because of the the perseverance that we
Speaker 4: had to was it because of the opposition that we
Speaker 4: faced it every single step of the way. And still
Speaker 4: we were like, fuck you, I'm doing this thing, you know,
Speaker 4: Like I was talking to God. I was like, hey, listen,
Speaker 4: you know, there was things in my life that were
Speaker 4: going completely haywire upside down. I was like, at one
Speaker 4: point I actually said, Hey, that's enough, Like, I get it.
Speaker 4: I'm not supposed to do this thing, or you know,
Speaker 4: maybe I am supposed to do this thing, but there's
Speaker 4: obstacles in my way. But that's enough. I'm doing this anyway.
Speaker 4: I'm committed now and kind of cleared up. We pulled
Speaker 4: it off. But yeah, without life, without these obstacles and
Speaker 4: without this strife, is like, what's it worth living?
Speaker 3: This is all?
Speaker 1: Are we all parents here, Jonathan? Are your parents?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I have two kids, So okay, Because I
Speaker 3: think we've been looking at this from like an US
Speaker 3: centric point of view, and I think that maybe looking
Speaker 3: over to God, if God truly did love us to
Speaker 3: the extent that he sent his only son to die
Speaker 3: for us, let's take that at face value.
Speaker 1: God loves the shit out of us. Your own child.
Speaker 3: Would you rather they just came out prebated, full of
Speaker 3: wisdom and intelligence, fully developed? Or is the journey that
Speaker 3: they go through as much of a blessing for you
Speaker 3: to bear witness too as it is for them to
Speaker 3: go through? And I think that sometimes we turn God
Speaker 3: and I used to do this. How could we know
Speaker 3: the nature of God? How could we project our own
Speaker 3: understanding of man onto this creator entity, and I used
Speaker 3: to be more comfortable with the idea that he was
Speaker 3: maybe like a cloud of energy that all consciousness returned
Speaker 3: to when you died, because I don't fucking know. Probably
Speaker 3: thank you Sci Fi for that. But I think that
Speaker 3: there's a fractal nature to reality. When you look at
Speaker 3: a microscopic level, it emulates who's to grow. And I
Speaker 3: think that God is showing you his nature. So I
Speaker 3: think in some ways, you can look at yourself as
Speaker 3: a parent and what you want for your kids, and
Speaker 3: how you do value the hardship, especially when they overcome
Speaker 3: and learn from it, and I think we can kind
Speaker 3: of project those values onto God, I think pretty safely actually,
Speaker 3: just given that fractal nature of reality, as above so
Speaker 3: below is a spiritual truism. It's a reality of this realm.
Speaker 3: And I think that so often what He actually wants
Speaker 3: for us is left out of the conversation. I think
Speaker 3: he wants us to grow. I think he wants to
Speaker 3: see us grow. I think he wants us to grow
Speaker 3: with him. I think he wants us to talk to him.
Speaker 3: I think he wishes we would just fucking talk to him.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I get that, but.
Speaker 2: Isn't it kind of an illusion of free will? Like
Speaker 2: the idea, yes, are we free to go about and
Speaker 2: do whatever the hell we want? Yeah, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: Like you can if you want to be a pedophile,
Speaker 2: go ahead and do it. You want to be a rapist,
Speaker 2: a killer, or whatever, you go ahead and do it.
Speaker 2: Like that's free will. God gave you that right. But like,
Speaker 2: ultimately it's almost like it's an illusion of free will
Speaker 2: because you can do all that in the meantime, but
Speaker 2: in the end, there's your free will that allowed you
Speaker 2: to be able to do all those negative things or
Speaker 2: just not believe. By the way, it's not even just
Speaker 2: as simple as being like those horrible things. If you
Speaker 2: don't believe, you will be treated as the same way,
Speaker 2: in the same respect that a rapist and a pedophile
Speaker 2: and a murderer and like shit like that, you'll be
Speaker 2: treated the same exact way.
Speaker 1: Once you get to the end. Till recently and I
Speaker 1: learned that that wasn't the case.
Speaker 4: It's like, now we're talking about what hell is, and
Speaker 4: I think what you were describing why I joked in
Speaker 4: the beginning of this episode about what hell is that
Speaker 4: You're like, it's this infinite void, this darkness, and it
Speaker 4: freaked you the fuck out, and maybe you should talk
Speaker 4: with him. He's a he's really good. He has this
Speaker 4: theory about the speed of light and how God is
Speaker 4: kind of like getting a little further away in the
Speaker 4: speed of light is kind of going town, which makes
Speaker 4: our physical constitution and among other things like degree rapidly.
Speaker 4: So if God is light, if he is the sun,
Speaker 4: if he's like raw all these stories, hell means that
Speaker 4: you are not next to him, you are away from him.
Speaker 4: And if there's no light, then you are in this
Speaker 4: infant And I think that that you know, it's it's
Speaker 4: torture in it. It's like it's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: pedophiles go there, rapists go there, murderers go there, people
Speaker 4: who don't. But then it's like, hey, why would I
Speaker 4: want to live next to this guy. I didn't know him,
Speaker 4: I never spoke with him. Would you want to come
Speaker 4: and move into my house? Like we had, We've had
Speaker 4: a couple of conversations. I'm like moving. You'd be like, no,
Speaker 4: that's fucking crazy. I don't know you. And I'd say
Speaker 4: the same thing to you, like I don't really know you.
Speaker 4: Like that you can't live with my kids. I don't
Speaker 4: know you, And it's just a side effect of like, hey,
Speaker 4: if I am the light and you are far from me,
Speaker 4: you're going to be in something so dark and cold
Speaker 4: that it's going to feel like you're burning.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think that a lot of hell has been
Speaker 3: our own, the interpretation of it has been our own butchering. Okay,
Speaker 3: But I do think that there are levels of severity.
Speaker 3: And I think that hell is like top is saying
Speaker 3: it's distance from God. I think that is really what
Speaker 3: hell is. And I think that even on the heaven aspect,
Speaker 3: it's very clear. Scripture says, right, there's two thrones of
Speaker 3: judgment in the end, and one of them is Jesus
Speaker 3: is thrown. And that is more or less like, well,
Speaker 3: you've been saved, you believed in me, But to what
Speaker 3: degree will you have nice things in this afterlife? And
Speaker 3: then I think the same thing. So remember what I
Speaker 3: was saying about the fractal nature of reality as above
Speaker 3: so below. We as human beings create pretty complex systems,
Speaker 3: especially complex systems for punishment. There are varying levels of
Speaker 3: sentences that you can endure. There's various levels maximum you know, security,
Speaker 3: prisons and isolation and all these different things. I think
Speaker 3: that once again, through our limited understanding, we have screwed
Speaker 3: these concepts up. Why would we be so capable of
Speaker 3: creating something so nuanced and structured and tiered, but God
Speaker 3: would not. And so I don't think that it is
Speaker 3: as simple as and I'm not saying this is what
Speaker 3: you're saying, Jonathan, but like some people do look at
Speaker 3: it as like you're gonna be boiling next to Hitler
Speaker 3: in a fiery pit, and I go, that's kind of
Speaker 3: cartoon shit.
Speaker 1: I think that there is a lot more nuance to it.
Speaker 3: And I mean, look, there are people even that say
Speaker 3: that hell is a temporary place, and I don't know
Speaker 3: how true that is, but I just know that we
Speaker 3: send people to prison temporarily. I would not be surprised
Speaker 3: if by the end of this thing we will find
Speaker 3: that we have grossly misinterpreted God and his word, and
Speaker 3: that the systems and places that we will see after
Speaker 3: this will look very similar to what we do, but
Speaker 3: on a grandiose level. And I think we're going to
Speaker 3: face palm the shit out of ourselves when we fucking die,
Speaker 3: just in the way that we've reduced this because the
Speaker 3: more that I look into it, the more new wants
Speaker 3: to get and the more I don't think that that
Speaker 3: like you know, it's like that as above, so below
Speaker 3: is supposed to be like a BOTHAMTT principle, right, And
Speaker 3: I don't think that that is true. I think it
Speaker 3: was a principle that was co opted and inverted. But
Speaker 3: I think it's just a universal truism about where we
Speaker 3: reside in this realm. And it's even the same thing
Speaker 3: when people go, well, Jesus, Christ is actually an analog
Speaker 3: or analogy rather for the Sun. And see what happens
Speaker 3: is the sun rests on this thing called the celestial crux,
Speaker 3: and it stays there for three days, and then after
Speaker 3: the third day it moves from that place in the
Speaker 3: sky and the days become longer. Thus you know the
Speaker 3: return of the sun or the resurrection. Also, Jesus is
Speaker 3: just a metaphor for the thirty three vertebrae that you
Speaker 3: have in your spine. And Christ is actually Christos, which
Speaker 3: is an oil that is in your spine. And if you,
Speaker 3: through some sort of meditation, can manage to migrate this
Speaker 3: oil to your pineal gland, you will become an ascended
Speaker 3: Master like Jesus Christ. And I hear when I hear
Speaker 3: that is that God and Jesus Christ are echoed through
Speaker 3: so much of this reality. That does not mean that
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ is just an analogy for oil, or that
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ is just an analogy for the sun. I
Speaker 3: look at that, and I go this universe emulates, it
Speaker 3: echoes God's will on the macro and on the micro
Speaker 3: and you will find him wherever you look. And so
Speaker 3: I think that on that level, when you die, whether
Speaker 3: or not it comes to Hell, I think that fractal
Speaker 3: nature still exists there, and I think that it'll just
Speaker 3: be very similar to systems that we have here. And
Speaker 3: then you'll have to ask yourself the question, was it
Speaker 3: ever our intention to create this system? Or do we
Speaker 3: have that little spark of divine because God did create
Speaker 3: us and so we move in His will in so
Speaker 3: many ways.
Speaker 2: It definitely seems right. Like the interpretation factor, I mean,
Speaker 2: look at it. How many different religions are there that
Speaker 2: are stemming off of Christianity in the first place. There's
Speaker 2: always going to be different interpretations. And I think that
Speaker 2: you are right as far as you know. The there's
Speaker 2: certain like emulating factors, whether you're looking up in the
Speaker 2: stars and you're trying to read the the skyclock, as
Speaker 2: Crow Triple seven calls it, or if you're trying to
Speaker 2: understand science and you get into the cristos and how
Speaker 2: it's rising up the spine, and then you get into
Speaker 2: certain you know, Vedic understandings, and it all kind of
Speaker 2: does say the same thing. And so that's, honestly, that's
Speaker 2: why I say, I'm kind of like the fucking the
Speaker 2: coexists bumper sticker, Like I believe that there is remnants
Speaker 2: of truth within all of them. And I think that
Speaker 2: if you're really this is just my own personal interpretation,
Speaker 2: I think that if you are putting more eggs in
Speaker 2: one specific basket, that's what causes you to kind of
Speaker 2: distance yourself from you know, your brothers and your sisters,
Speaker 2: and your neighbors and your parents and anybody who has
Speaker 2: a different, you know, understanding than you you're distancing yourself from.
Speaker 2: And I think that God wants the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 2: God wants us all to come together. God wants us
Speaker 2: to treat our neighbor as ourselves and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And so I think that you know, that there's there's
Speaker 2: more than one way to skin a cat here, and
Speaker 2: I am with it.
Speaker 4: That's what pushed me away from Christianity in general because
Speaker 4: my mother I don't even remember what scripture, but same
Speaker 4: sort of thing. We were closer with our family and
Speaker 4: she became a Christian and she had to turn her
Speaker 4: life around. So that means that you can't break bread
Speaker 4: with the sinner. And I'm like, well that's uncle, what
Speaker 4: uncle Andy?
Speaker 5: You know, it's like I'm still gonna know Jesus ate
Speaker 5: with the horrors.
Speaker 4: Exactly like we do Brohemian Grove with the trannies. Like
Speaker 4: really listen, man, I've I just I come off abrasive
Speaker 4: and stuff. But like one of the things that I
Speaker 4: value most in what I'm able to do now is
Speaker 4: just like this community. It's beautiful. Like I want to
Speaker 4: talk with everybody and I want everyone to kind of
Speaker 4: like be involved here. If you believe what I believe,
Speaker 4: that's that's great. As long as you're not like shitting
Speaker 4: on me, like really trashing me, like in a mean way.
Speaker 1: You do have to be a little bit.
Speaker 3: Not defensive, but a little bit more convicted in your
Speaker 3: alignment with God. And what I mean by that is
Speaker 3: like there is one hundred percent to Jonathan's point, I
Speaker 3: don't even want to say a nugget of truth. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of truth to all these different religions. Imagine though,
Speaker 3: for a moment, you worked your ass off, you made
Speaker 3: a house for your wife and your son, and you
Speaker 3: bought them all these things, and you put food on
Speaker 3: the table, and you've gone above and beyond to create
Speaker 3: something of value for those that you love, and for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, they keep thanking Uncle Terry, and it's like, no,
Speaker 3: motherfucker I did this. And I think that's why the
Speaker 3: first commandment is like not having any other gods before me.
Speaker 3: The mistake that others are making, and albeit they are
Speaker 3: surrounded by a lot of truth, is they are attributing
Speaker 3: this creation to something else. Just from my own point
Speaker 3: of view, I would have to sit down my family
Speaker 3: again and again and be like, I am the one
Speaker 3: who's making the things for you. Okay, this is not
Speaker 3: the doing of Uncle Terry, you know. And it honestly
Speaker 3: hurts a lot that you would say that this is
Speaker 3: somebody else's doing and not mine. And I would resent
Speaker 3: greatly anyone who would step into my home and claim
Speaker 3: that they built it, and I think that that is
Speaker 3: the core of the issue. I don't hate other people
Speaker 3: and their other religions at all, and I always tell
Speaker 3: people it's like, no, I do believe that you're right
Speaker 3: about a lot of things, and you are seeing these
Speaker 3: you know, spiritual principles and entities and.
Speaker 1: Things like that.
Speaker 3: But you are in God's house and you are telling
Speaker 3: me that as Zazel made it, and that is where
Speaker 3: the core of the problem is. So yeah, no, definitely,
Speaker 3: I think God does want us to come together, but
Speaker 3: that certainly does not mean to then falsely at true
Speaker 3: his creation to something else just because your brother does.
Speaker 2: Beautiful Well, I know, I get it. I appreciate you
Speaker 2: know the perspectives here, and I think that we all
Speaker 2: learn a little bit when there are varying perspectives, right, Like,
Speaker 2: you don't want to be in one of those echo
Speaker 2: chambers that is everybody's just like sucking each other's dick
Speaker 2: and fucking deep throat in each other.
Speaker 1: Yes, you said exactly what I believe, So now I
Speaker 1: like you a lot more. Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be a part of that.
Speaker 2: I want to be around people that have different perspectives
Speaker 2: that can broaden my awareness and broaden my understanding of
Speaker 2: exactly the nature of our reality. Like I love those
Speaker 2: kinds of you know, those kinds of conversations. So I
Speaker 2: appreciate you guys coming on. And this is why our
Speaker 2: show does really well. Me and Jacob, we don't agree
Speaker 2: on a lot of the same shit, and that's that's
Speaker 2: what's cool about it, is that you can disagree and
Speaker 2: still Jacob my best friend for life. There is not
Speaker 2: a single person that I would trust more in this
Speaker 2: life than Jacob. And even though we have very different perspectives,
Speaker 2: due it's all love.
Speaker 1: That's all it is.
Speaker 2: And so I you know, that's why I appreciate you
Speaker 2: guys coming on, sharing your perspective, sharing your understandings, and
Speaker 2: all the research that you guys have done. Like this
Speaker 2: is beautiful what we're doing here in this podcast world.
Speaker 2: It's not controlled, it's not constricted. We are free to
Speaker 2: speak our own mind and we're also free to fucking
Speaker 2: get along. And that's that's what's great about this, especially
Speaker 2: coming out of the holiday season, right like, this is
Speaker 2: the good shit right here.
Speaker 5: I do not expect this episode to go this way.
Speaker 5: I'm not lie. We touched on all the shit today,
Speaker 5: good God.
Speaker 1: Jacob, are aren't we isn't there precedent for wrestling with God?
Speaker 1: And is that not what we're doing here?
Speaker 5: My my namesake, as a matter of fact, allegedly at
Speaker 5: one point in time, did have a physical altercation with God. Yeah,
Speaker 5: although although a lot of scholars believe it was more
Speaker 5: of an angelic figure on behalf of God.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 5: Whatever. Yes, that's that is a thing, and that's the
Speaker 5: whole point. We are not supposed to if you read
Speaker 5: the Bible cover to cover and just accept everything like yep,
Speaker 5: good time, bro, you're fucking psycho. There are so many
Speaker 5: things in there that need so oh much more clarification. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And that's the thing. We as humans wrestle with this.
Speaker 5: We wrestle with our own conscience. We wrestle with the
Speaker 5: spirit realm, we wrestle with the physical realm. We wrestle
Speaker 5: with what happens if dot dot dot after dot dot
Speaker 5: dot to every flavor and culture you could think, and
Speaker 5: at the end of it, if we stay the course,
Speaker 5: if we do the most that we can do, and
Speaker 5: I don't mean project that we're doing the most that
Speaker 5: we can do, if we actually can lay our heads
Speaker 5: down at night and say that I gave today one
Speaker 5: hundred and ten percent of doing the most morally, the most, physically,
Speaker 5: the most whatever. If you give it your all, and
Speaker 5: you do it in the name of Jesus, then it's
Speaker 5: gonna work. You're gonna It's how It's like literally a
Speaker 5: cheat coat.
Speaker 3: I think we were immersed in what, in hindsight, will
Speaker 3: be the greatest mystery we've ever been subjected to, and
Speaker 3: I think God wants us to try to cut through
Speaker 3: that and understand him.
Speaker 1: I think that that is a huge part of this.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you, are you guys not having the
Speaker 4: time of your life doing this?
Speaker 3: It's such ah, my gosh, best job ever head exactly,
Speaker 3: and especially as time moves forward and things get crazier,
Speaker 3: it is the best job in the world.
Speaker 5: Bro. I literally have a Christmas party. Was just talking
Speaker 5: to a guy I used to work with him long
Speaker 5: story shories my wife's cousins, so I see him at
Speaker 5: family functions and he's like, so, you still doing your
Speaker 5: little podcast.
Speaker 1: It was like my little podcast, Yeah, I've been putting
Speaker 1: some respect on my name.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, because he was shitting on me back
Speaker 5: when we worked together on shift and I was still
Speaker 5: working two jobs trying to build this thing to you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So, yeah, he saw that side
Speaker 5: of it, and he's like, wait, how do you have
Speaker 5: that much to talk about? I'm like, dude, we're over
Speaker 5: six hundred episodes and I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 5: the news lately, but they keep making shit for us
Speaker 5: to talk about. You could look ten years previously and
Speaker 5: they had more shit to talk about than that. We've
Speaker 5: never heard of. You want to talk about a thousand
Speaker 5: years ago. Yeah, we're like, we're never gonna stop.
Speaker 3: I think that God enjoys it when you when you
Speaker 3: seek him. And I think that like Jonathan right here saying,
Speaker 3: you know, he's not a Christian or anything like that,
Speaker 3: but he does appreciate the view. I think that God
Speaker 3: looks at him, probably with tremendous favor, just because it's
Speaker 3: like if you created all of this, and and then
Speaker 3: you're looking to mankind and like there are there are
Speaker 3: some of them don't even seem to give a shit
Speaker 3: about knowing what created is most of them, Yeah, most
Speaker 3: of them don't give a shit about anything that's going on.
Speaker 3: They don't, they don't seem to want to know. And
Speaker 3: then there are people like us who are chasing this
Speaker 3: constantly and constantly having to readjust and reassess and check
Speaker 3: in on our old beliefs and do they make sense anymore?
Speaker 1: Do they hold water?
Speaker 3: And I just think if that was me and I
Speaker 3: created this and I kicked it off every time I
Speaker 3: saw one of them light up with like what the
Speaker 3: fuck is going on here and start.
Speaker 1: Thinking, I'd be like, what's grow Let's true.
Speaker 3: So I just want to say that there is no
Speaker 3: part of me because I think that I've found the
Speaker 3: truth that looks at like Jonathan or somebody like Jonathan
Speaker 3: as lesser. I look to you like, there's my homie
Speaker 3: also trying to figure this shit out, and that's what
Speaker 3: we're called to do, I think.
Speaker 4: So I'm kind of glad you're doing it that way
Speaker 4: because I'm like, if I'm missing something and you find it,
Speaker 4: like fucking tell me, dude.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, I also appreciate its something.
Speaker 2: I also appreciate that there didn't there's nothing but fucking
Speaker 2: time while we're here to be figuring this stuff out
Speaker 2: in the first place.
Speaker 1: Like it's not a race.
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows I could get to eighty five
Speaker 2: years old and be like, holy shit, the Nephelum Death
Speaker 2: Squad and Jacob fucking got had figured out way long ago,
Speaker 2: and for some reason it took me sixty seventy eighty
Speaker 2: years to get to this point. Like I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, and if you want to talk about God's grace,
Speaker 2: that's it right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And let me tell you.
Speaker 3: I hope that I can still be unraveling mysteries at
Speaker 3: eighty five years old, if I'm still having beautiful epiphanius
Speaker 3: moments where things are being revealed to me and it's
Speaker 3: making something else make sense, you know that, feeld. I mean, guys,
Speaker 3: we're all conspiracy theorists, right, you know that feeling when
Speaker 3: something happens and you go, this is the fucking this
Speaker 3: is the thing, and this makes this make sense, and
Speaker 3: it's it's all about like connecting these dots. It's really
Speaker 3: like an adrenaline rush. If I can still have that
Speaker 3: at eighty five years old, if God is still revealing
Speaker 3: things to me about his creation that far into the future,
Speaker 3: I that's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: How awesome? How awesome is it that an epiphany is
Speaker 1: even a thing? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Like, just in general, like the the way that we,
Speaker 2: you know, are our brains light up whenever certain things
Speaker 2: seem to align like it is, and then.
Speaker 3: The board system right, it's like it does something. It
Speaker 3: stands all the hairs up on your body and you
Speaker 3: feel like energized. And because you connected it to dots,
Speaker 3: it's almost like it is like a neural like neurological
Speaker 3: like synapses, like as if you are creating new passageways.
Speaker 3: You know, they say like, oh, every time you think
Speaker 3: of a different way, there will be an electrical connection
Speaker 3: between one neuron and another and it creates a new bridge,
Speaker 3: a new pathway of thinking. And I go, maybe that
Speaker 3: sounds like NASA shit, but okay, it almost feels like
Speaker 3: you can feel that happening in those moments where it
Speaker 3: feels like a little like neuron just bridged a path
Speaker 3: to another one and connected some giant spider web.
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 5: Eight five. The way this shit's shaken out, I don't
Speaker 5: know anymore.
Speaker 4: I know next year is tops. I'm like looking past,
Speaker 4: not the next couple of weeks. But I just want
Speaker 4: to say thanks before we get out of here, because
Speaker 4: that I feel like what we're talking about now is
Speaker 4: the idea of why we're here to look into these
Speaker 4: things and figure them out, and you guys, in no
Speaker 4: small way, have helped us do this full time. So yeah,
Speaker 4: you've been instrumental. Unfortunately you've played a part in creating
Speaker 4: this shit show. But yeah, man, I think that's you know,
Speaker 4: everybody should be looking into. And I know people have
Speaker 4: circumstances and shit to do in their life that like
Speaker 4: the real world. We've just been lucky enough that this
Speaker 4: is kind of become in our real world. And you know,
Speaker 4: thank you guys for setting us on that path. We
Speaker 4: really appreciate and.
Speaker 3: A few people out there who don't understand, like why
Speaker 3: do you look at these things? It's like I'm the smallest,
Speaker 3: most surface level.
Speaker 1: This is the most entertaining shit in the world. To me.
Speaker 3: Netflix couldn't write it better. It doesn't matter what Hollywood
Speaker 3: producer cranks out of film. It doesn't hold a candle
Speaker 3: to reality if you look at it through the right lens.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 3: Even if everything I believe fell apart tomorrow, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: stop digging because it's still the most interesting shit on earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely is. We're living in one of the
Speaker 2: craziest movies. If we are all collectively fucking tripping our
Speaker 2: balls off right now, or even the idea that we
Speaker 2: all died in twenty twelve and our life is actually
Speaker 2: just flashing before our eyes and we're not actually existing
Speaker 2: in the right moment. Like going back to the Matrix movie,
Speaker 2: this spoon's not really there, like it's still it's fucking
Speaker 2: awesome looking back at all this. If that's the case,
Speaker 2: absolutely bro. So if you guys, oh I'm sorry, go ahead,
Speaker 2: Oh good, No, I was gonna say, if you guys
Speaker 2: would tell all of our cult members where they can
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Speaker 2: to this highly recommend you guys go check out the
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Speaker 1: But how would they do.
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Speaker 5: You didn't realize how unhinged Tower Gang really got. I
Speaker 5: didn't realize the lore goes back to the four Chan days. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's wild.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a rough show.
Speaker 1: Not for the Fate of Heart. We showed Dick at
Speaker 1: Brohemian Grove that.
Speaker 5: Was that was also wild. Dude, y'all were out of
Speaker 5: pocket for that one.
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you something, right, we got the
Speaker 3: pictures on the screen for like ten fucking minutes, dude,
Speaker 3: because it was art.
Speaker 1: Okay, you just could deprive the people of art. It
Speaker 1: was incredible.
Speaker 3: I just want to say, yeah, Neflim Desquad on all platforms.
Speaker 3: But I hope you guys will come back. We are
Speaker 3: throwing another Brohemian Grove probably in about April, I would
Speaker 3: say eventually eventually, and we are I believe we're turning
Speaker 3: it into a two day event because last time it
Speaker 3: was Brohemian Grove, but you can say the two days
Speaker 3: were starkly different from one another. I think the first
Speaker 3: day is going to be Brohemian Grove and the second
Speaker 3: day is going to be a tower Gang event called
Speaker 3: Rapa Palooza.
Speaker 5: Oh god, yeah, if you got.
Speaker 4: It's going to be at the same location, I think so. Anywait, David,
Speaker 4: if they like T shirts, that's what I do for
Speaker 4: my main business. But uh yeah, I'm a T shirt producer,
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Speaker 4: dare you to wear it, basically. I think that's a
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Speaker 1: So go check out.
Speaker 3: You've got a shirt and a hat that says based
Speaker 3: and come pilled, So I mean you know that which
Speaker 3: people buy it? So yeah, catch Nephelin Deskod wherever you
Speaker 3: can and keep an eye out on the show, on
Speaker 3: our socials at David el Corbo on Twitter and for
Speaker 3: announcements for Brohemian Grove. I hope you guys will come
Speaker 3: back because I would love for you guys to be
Speaker 3: a part of this thing going forward. I think we're
Speaker 3: building this really awesome community and it was so good
Speaker 3: to do it with you last time. So you guys
Speaker 3: always have an open door, and I mean we'll be
Speaker 3: knocking soon to try to schedule you guys if you'll come.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we appreciate that, and you guys, anytime you
Speaker 2: guys want to reach out, we are always there for it.
Speaker 2: And definitely we will be at the next Brohemian Grove.
Speaker 1: It was a wild time. Definitely a time that I'll
Speaker 1: never personally forget. But but yeah, we appreciate you guys
Speaker 1: seriously to put the pieces of my life back together
Speaker 1: in a parking lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still trying to grab little little pixels of
Speaker 2: reality to try and make a fucking picture.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 5: Hey, And thank god that the boy, the man that
Speaker 5: met the legend of hippie Jimmy, was in the parking
Speaker 5: lot that night, in that critical moment in Jonathan's life.
Speaker 5: Like a wind from the far West, this old cat
Speaker 5: with a tied I shirt comes up as a post
Speaker 5: DMT Shirpa to just calm the way I'm just saying.
Speaker 5: It was an experience. The entire Brohemian Grove is wild.
Speaker 3: It was a great time and it is a nerve
Speaker 3: wracking thing to try to put together, but it seems
Speaker 3: to crush every time. I think this time, we're gonna
Speaker 3: try to get Tripley and Eddie Bravo to headline. That's
Speaker 3: the goal, that's who we're shooting for. And then there's
Speaker 3: gonna be another headliner the second night, so they're gonna
Speaker 3: be headlining Brohemian Grove the Conspiracy night, and then we'll
Speaker 3: have a different vibe for the comedy night.
Speaker 1: So that's it.
Speaker 3: Guys, go and check us out Nefelind's Death Squad and
Speaker 3: keep an eye out for Brohemian Grove announcements.
Speaker 2: Awesome, man, We appreciate you guys big time. Well look
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