WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.639 Odal fs are. 2 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:48.759 Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult 3 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.359 of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan, I'm Jack, and 4 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:56.039 we have some of the most dangerous retards to ever 5 00:00:56.320 --> 00:00:59.880 get on the Internet. Welcome to the show, Top Lobster 6 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.000 and Raven from the Nephylum Deaf Squad. 7 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:05.840 Thanks for having us, guys, very happy to be here. Yes, 8 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:09.480 in fact, very dangerous, very retarded. We are I guess 9 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:12.519 the host of Nephilim Death Squad, which is I guess, 10 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:13.480 I guess. 11 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:15.680 We do something. 12 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:18.319 I don't know what we do really, but no, we 13 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:20.079 are the host of Nephlin Death Squad. You can find 14 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:23.280 us everywhere except for YouTube at the moment because we've 15 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.319 been banned. That was a nice little Christmas, you know, 16 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:30.359 morning surprise for us. We woke up yesterday and we 17 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.560 had a guest down that dared to talk about the 18 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:36.319 potential benefits of alkaline water, not to be discussed on YouTube. 19 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:39.760 We've seen all things, of all things everything that we say, 20 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:41.560 like I mean, it was like like I was like, 21 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:44.120 check out that that bookmark. David like, what did the timestamp? 22 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:47.280 And he goes it's like it's alkaline water and basically 23 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:49.959 all our guests that was like, yeah, it's pretty good. 24 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.519 Wait wait wait wait wait tom To. There was no 25 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:58.280 like racial epithets being used. The hues were in charge 26 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:00.239 of the alkaline was any of that being used. It 27 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:03.519 was just like the fact that y'all mentioned alkaline water. 28 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:03.760 Bro. 29 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:07.680 We have an episode with Dustin Nemos on YouTube named 30 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.639 The Final Solution where all he does is talk about 31 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:12.800 Jews and we let him go. We're like, yo, cook, bro, 32 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:16.000 it's still up there this one. They were like, alkaline water, 33 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:17.080 that's a step too far. 34 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:20.159 Yeah, you know what I mean. It's our mutual homie 35 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:25.039 Matthew Rife, not the comedian, the actual based mad scientist. 36 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:27.360 And super fucking based, but I love that guy. 37 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.240 He's on the show the other day and all it 38 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:31.080 is is, you know, somebody in the comments said, hey, 39 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:34.400 is there any benefits to drinking alkaline water? And more 40 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:36.560 or less Matt said, I think there could be. 41 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:37.319 Yeah. 42 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:39.840 He doesn't even doesn't even sell a product for it. 43 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:41.680 He was like, actually, I bought a bunch, I don't 44 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.080 even sell them. I'm kind of giving them away. And 45 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.120 it just turns out YouTube was like, I can't believe 46 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.080 he said that. Of all the other things we said. 47 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.479 We denied the election, the holocaust. 48 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:54.560 Denied the assassination attempt of Donald Trump. It doesn't matter. 49 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:58.240 The list goes on and on. Apparently no trespassing is 50 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.400 grand enough until you have Matt Rife on the show. 51 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:04.319 And so, uh yeah, don't support us on YouTube. If 52 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:05.840 you guys want to come and check out the content, 53 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:09.280 go and find us on Rumble or virtually everywhere else 54 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:10.840 for your audio feeds. 55 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:13.080 You know what's funny is is that it was like 56 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:16.080 a year or two ago. I think that Gwyneth Paltrow. 57 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:18.479 I think she was talking about the benefits of alkaline 58 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:22.120 water and as she was saying that, she was squeezing 59 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:27.039 a lime into it, and it's like, fucking. 60 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.719 Yeah, yeah, So all right, Gwyneth. I don't know if 61 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:33.400 you ever took second grade science, but there's a thing 62 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:38.039 called a pH scale. You adding acid to a alkaline 63 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.879 substance makes it a neutral aka basic fucking water, you 64 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:42.919 stupid cunt. 65 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:45.439 Anyway, isn't that the lady with the vagina candles? 66 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:51.120 Yes, yes, yes, ah, yeah's pepper, Tomas, Yes, it's pepper, 67 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:54.479 And she talks about eating placenta and also I believe 68 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:58.319 putting potentially period, menstrual blood on your face. 69 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:00.479 I think that's what I heard, jammis you can with 70 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:03.000 pissu in. 71 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:03.960 What regard. 72 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:05.800 Putting it out. 73 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:09.360 I personally piss on my feet every time I'm in 74 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.240 the shower, and that's because in the Marines they taught 75 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.360 us that's how you kill athletes foot right, So that's 76 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:17.160 number one. Uh number two. Yes, there's people that are 77 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:20.040 into a lot of weird shit, kinks and things like that. Look, 78 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.800 I'm not gonna yuck someone's youm I will say, I 79 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:25.600 draw the line at scat yo. When shit or puke 80 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:27.959 makes its way into the bedroom, I'm fucking done and 81 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.079 we're I'd rather die. But that's just me. 82 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:34.040 But you're open to somebody golden showering you, I guess 83 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:38.000 I've heard that. Okay, Well, as long as it's for health, 84 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:39.079 then I guess it's okay. 85 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:42.560 The menstrual blood, I've heard all kinds of stuff with 86 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:45.240 that too. Placenta. A lot of women who have babies, 87 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.319 they'll make like teachers of their placentine. That helps with 88 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:51.160 the the postpartum depression of stuff. Like I'm I'm a dude, 89 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:53.800 I have no dog in that fight. If a chick 90 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:56.439 wants to cannibalize a section of her own anatomy, like 91 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:01.279 that is between her and God. I'm I'm all, dude, let. 92 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:02.720 Me tell you guys a quick story, because now you 93 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:04.480 bring up a lot of topics. We're talking about how 94 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.160 bad the day Christmas was. Yesterday, we get a second 95 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.959 strike on YouTube two weeks suspended, so we can't post there. 96 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:13.240 We don't even know if we'll continue on top of that. 97 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:15.480 So I'm walking around. I'm like just punching the sky 98 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.560 and I'm walking outside and my wife's like, get the dog. 99 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:20.199 So I look at the dog and he's got a 100 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:22.519 little string out of his mouth and he's She's like, 101 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:23.319 take it out of his mouth. 102 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:23.839 I was like, what is it? 103 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:25.879 So I go when I go to grab it, swallows it. 104 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:27.959 I'm like, I don't know what that was. We go inside, 105 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.040 look in the bathroom here. We had a party the 106 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:34.839 day before. Somebody must have been on there. My dog 107 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:37.800 goes in, he goes, knocks the garbagekin. This blood everywhere 108 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:40.879 I'm looking at, just blood on the floor, rags, he 109 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:45.279 ate the tampon, he was chewing it. Just I immediately 110 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:47.839 google it. I'm like, what happens if dog eats tampon, 111 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:49.319 and I was like, he's gonna die. You need to 112 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:51.399 like do something, and like it's Christmas Day. I'm not 113 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.399 bringing to the dog. He's a he's a puppy, but 114 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:55.040 border cap. 115 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.000 Oh he small, that's gonna get The problem is now 116 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.240 he's got a taste for blood and once that starts, man, 117 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:01.560 once it pops, the fun don't stop. 118 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:03.480 So I would just say keep an eye on. I'm 119 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:04.519 not bringing my kid around anymore. 120 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.639 I'd assume you guys are in the science section on 121 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.600 your podcast, right semi okay, Yeah, this is where we 122 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:11.959 had to go. We actually cracked. Well we'll talk about 123 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:16.160 the comedy thing, but so this is science. Hydrogen peroxide 124 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:18.480 three percent you can give your dog per five pounds 125 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.199 five milli literers. I gave Hi nap, threw it up, nicey, nice, 126 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.839 nice little tampon. There was a there's a story from 127 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:26.360 a menstruation in dogs. 128 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.399 Dude, I tell you what English mastive. She eats whatever 129 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.639 and she will shit it out like there's there's nothing 130 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:33.319 getting hung up, you know what I mean. But for 131 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:35.720 a dog that size, yeah, you absolutely had to hit 132 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:36.439 that hydrogen prox. 133 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:37.879 That's what I was gonna say, my dog. 134 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.839 He's uh, he's part boxer, part Wiener, so he has 135 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.079 like the long wiener body and then the boxer head, 136 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:44.519 which is very strange looking. 137 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.439 But anyway, he is very cute as well. 138 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:49.839 All Right, So my I got him off with my sister. 139 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:53.279 My sister had an accidental, you know, breed of puppies, 140 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:58.199 obviously a boxer and a Wiener dog. But I guess 141 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:00.759 he was so retarded whenever he was a little puppy 142 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.920 that they literally would call him helmet and uh. And 143 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.319 that's really why I wanted him, because I like just 144 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:07.879 fucking dumb dogs. 145 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:11.120 It's just cute to me. And so anyway, we ended 146 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:11.879 up bringing him home. 147 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.199 And dude, I can't tell you how many times, So 148 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:16.000 I have a two year old baby, like, I mean, 149 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.120 he's coming out of his baby stage, but he's still 150 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:22.040 wearing diapers and shit like that. Right, Well he has Dude, 151 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:24.399 I can't tell you how many times he's eaten shitty 152 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.439 wipes and it just shoots him out, just shits. 153 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:28.199 Them out like it's no big deal. 154 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:32.480 Dude, Boxers are known for eating like shit whatever. Yeah, 155 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:35.600 and he's exclusively menstrual blood. 156 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:38.639 You can't do it. 157 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:40.800 I hate. You can't more than you hate my dog. 158 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.639 But dogs do like to eat like literal shit garbage 159 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.519 you put themselves in it. I don't know what this 160 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:46.160 show's about. 161 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:47.920 Well, they as we're. 162 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:49.839 Talking about that, we were talking about Christmas, right, and 163 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:52.399 y'all had kind of a bad Christmas to start, but 164 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:54.360 then it sounded like it kind of turned into a 165 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.839 very merry Christmas for y'all at the expense of a 166 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.160 uh what would you call him? Beat here? Uh you 167 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.439 see tire YouTuber? I would I don't know if i'd 168 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:05.560 call him eightsier anymore. He may have been somewhere at 169 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:07.519 the top a while ago, but he kind of fell off. 170 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:12.240 Pool right, Yeah, Tim Poole, I would say, monetarily, uh 171 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:16.120 a tier, but culturally see tier probably see here maybe 172 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.040 d tier, but there's still hope for him. 173 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.079 No, it was a little bit of a Christmas miracle. 174 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:23.720 Yeah, midway through the day, I guess as the festivities 175 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.079 wound down, top Lopster decided that. 176 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:26.399 It was. 177 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:28.399 Tim Poole. 178 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:30.480 Yeah, it's time to poke a Tim Poole dude. 179 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:32.960 And he took the bait and he'd bit hard and 180 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:34.960 then he got ratioed into oblivion. 181 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:36.720 Not just by us, but by let's. 182 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:38.759 Set the table. Yeah, because I think this this might 183 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:39.720 be interesting for you guys. 184 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:42.480 To that sounded like y'all just decided fuck Tim Poole 185 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:42.960 this morning. 186 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:45.960 Like no, no, no, well, you know it's like I 187 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:49.320 mean sometimes I do, but not. I was like, this 188 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:50.639 is the you know, the birth of our Lord and 189 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:52.240 Save Jesus Christ, if you believe in that, or if 190 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.399 you think Olenz zero came into this a whole thing. 191 00:08:55.480 --> 00:09:00.600 So uh. It starts off with the babylon be Right, 192 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.720 who's a Christian organization but also a right wing organization. 193 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:07.639 But the more I pay attention to them, the more 194 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:10.320 I'm like, oh, no, you guys are like pseudo Christian, 195 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:13.200 pseudo right wing. You do a lot of like feigning 196 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.120 that you are but then sliding over to this side. 197 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.519 And I'm like, I don't like that. It's very subversive. Yeah, 198 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:22.720 and so they take a very click baby Yeah yes, yeah, sure, 199 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.840 I mean it's what it's what I'm like, not me specifically, 200 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:28.799 but people who are like talking about the JQ stuff, 201 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:30.519 it's what they're accused of, Like, oh, you guys are 202 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:32.000 doing it for clicks. It's like, now you're kind of 203 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:35.159 doing stuff on your end for clicks or because you're controlled. 204 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.399 So I like to call them out. And here we 205 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:42.559 have Tim Poole who is running cover for them in 206 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:45.759 a tweet while he's in the middle of a sale 207 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:48.600 from selling his company to possibly The Daily Wire, which 208 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:50.600 I'm not sure that that's happening, but there's been talks. 209 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:54.240 So I'm like, oh, you you know you are a 210 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:57.159 running It's not that he's running cover for Israel. It's 211 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.639 that like when he has somebody on his show that's 212 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:02.279 talked about this side, like the other side of that 213 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:05.639 war out, he literally yells at them and shouts them down. 214 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:07.240 Now, I don't know if you guys ever seen that. 215 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:10.000 I mean, the man literally yells at his guests, like 216 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:11.960 screams at them, and it's like he turns rid. 217 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:13.799 Yeah, I don't like the way. I don't like the 218 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:15.320 way he talks to his guests like that. 219 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:15.720 Dude. 220 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:18.279 It's like, you gotta you're supposed to have at least 221 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.720 some level of respect for the company that you haven't 222 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:21.320 around dude. 223 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:22.960 You know, yeah he doesn't. 224 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:24.799 It's this is why this is what I've been I 225 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.200 was saying, like before the show, I went on and 226 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:29.720 the level of joy that was in that place. At 227 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:31.679 first of it was cold, but the level of joy. 228 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:34.720 Everyone was kind of like scared, fumbling around, like Tim's upstairs, 229 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:36.679 he's mad today for whatever fucking reason. 230 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:37.720 And I was like, this is it. 231 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:40.720 Yeah, this is what you guys do. Like, imagine you're 232 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:42.720 you're able to do your dream job, which is this 233 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.519 sitting here talking on a microphone. But you're doing it, 234 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:47.879 ir L, You're flying the people out, talking to them 235 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:51.000 face to face. It's a fucking dream. You're miserable doing it. 236 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:53.879 And it's like, I get it, But I think the 237 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.519 reason he's miserable is because he's not really controlling what 238 00:10:57.600 --> 00:10:59.639 he's doing. Someone's telling them what to do. And I 239 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:01.639 would be miserable too. If I'm a creative I wanted 240 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:03.360 to create and someone's telling me how to do it 241 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.240 and he's like, here's just take money, just continue to 242 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:08.200 make this show boring and bad, I'd be a little 243 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:10.639 bit upset. And that's what it seems like. That's what 244 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:14.000 seems like he's doing. So yeah, where was that whatever? 245 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:16.039 Well, it got so bad to the points where, like 246 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:19.799 it y'all didn't just like talk shit pretty much. The 247 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:23.279 internet came to life. And I'm not saying fully docks him, 248 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:27.720 but uh, I would say uncovered some of the truth 249 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:28.840 of his standings. 250 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:31.639 Yeah, I mean, look, by the end of the night, Ohen, 251 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.000 Benjamin decided to wake up from his hibernation and start 252 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:36.960 just tearing apart Timpoole as well. 253 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.879 So Jake Shields as well. I mean, yeah, mma fighter 254 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:42.279 Jake Shield's own Benjamin are just so. I was like, oh, 255 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:43.759 this is a free for all. I just backed up. 256 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:45.399 I was like, my bad. I didn't want to like 257 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:47.519 hurt you. I didn't even want to hurt you. This 258 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:51.039 is how the conversation went. I just said, damn, Tim, 259 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:54.720 you're already running already on the Daily Wire payroll because 260 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:57.639 he's he's running cover for a tweet that the Babylon 261 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:01.320 be made, which is basically anti They're making fun of Christmas, 262 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.279 which is like, I get that you're doing this comedy thing, 263 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.240 but they do it real slick like, like they kind 264 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:08.519 of like play both sides of the fence. When I 265 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:10.679 think you mean it, I don't think this is a joke, 266 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:12.600 and I do a lot of jokes, but when somebody 267 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:14.679 means it, I'm like, hmmm, I don't like that. That 268 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:17.799 was mean spirited. They did that temple Rin cover for them. 269 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:20.240 So I said, are you already on the Daily Wire payroll? 270 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.080 Like they're paying you to do this? And he answers me, 271 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:26.799 big mistake. Never answer if top lopster is there, and 272 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:29.159 I'm clear, I'm feeding you clear bait. Don't answer me 273 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.639 because it's just not going to go good. So he says, 274 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.080 what does Santa and Crampis have to do with the 275 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:36.879 Daily Wire? And I just said, just just keep running 276 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:39.360 cover to him, and this is when he loses it. 277 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.799 He just goes, you're retarded, and I'm like, oh, now 278 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:45.720 I have him on the hook. So I correct him. 279 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.639 I go, why, oh you are with the asterisk, which 280 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:57.799 makes no sense. He spirals further. He goes, no, yeah, 281 00:12:57.879 --> 00:12:59.240 reverse gram or not see him. 282 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:01.919 The wrong waytentious, So like he's gonna take that and 283 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.000 just fucking have an autistic screech about it. 284 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:08.360 Well, suddenly thinks he actually stumbled upon somebody who mistakingly 285 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:12.080 and that's that's I mean, a huge lack of you know, 286 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:13.399 sight on his behalf. 287 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.879 I don't mean to brag, but there's a reason why 288 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:17.679 I have so many followers on Twitter, and there's a 289 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:20.200 reason why so many people have interacted with me in 290 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.519 this way. They like the people that get it get it. Oh, 291 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:25.320 and Benjamin followed me because of the Twitter and then 292 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:27.639 came on our show Top Tower Gang, I don't know, 293 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:30.399 like five fucking times because he's like, oh yeah, these 294 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:32.840 guys get it. Same thing with Sam Tripley. So this 295 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.120 was like just verbal jiu jitsu, and I'm like, let's 296 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:38.120 see what he does. All of his fans don't get it, 297 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.000 so they immediately start attacking my spelling, and I'm like, perfect, 298 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:41.799 you guys are midwies. 299 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:42.759 It's apostrophe. 300 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:44.559 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 301 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:45.759 It's like a good job, guys. 302 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.440 That's like the test of have you ever heard of 303 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:51.080 have you eaten breakfast this morning? How would you feel 304 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.840 if you didn't eat breakfast this morning? And the low 305 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.240 IQ person says, but I did eat breakfast, and then 306 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:57.799 you go, well, how would you feel if you didn't? 307 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:00.000 And they just continue in the loop because they can't 308 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:04.879 understand how they would right entertain hypotheticals, right, yeah, so 309 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:07.399 this is what I'm presenting to the audience. They fail miserably. 310 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:10.559 Tim gets really angry and then he responds with the 311 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:13.960 threat and he says, is your intention to destroy all 312 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.879 opportunities for yourself so that when people start avoiding you, 313 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:18.320 you can just blame the Jews. 314 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.720 Honestly, right here top, what you said was it was? 315 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:23.279 It was beautiful. It's one of the one of your 316 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:24.279 better moments on Twitter. 317 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:27.320 I thought, yeah, So I'm like, is that a threat, Tim? 318 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:30.320 Because it listen, in this line of business there they 319 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.799 can like blacklist you, or they think that they can. 320 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:35.919 So I just said, is that a threat? 321 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:36.159 Tim? 322 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:38.279 Oh wait, let me go back here, and I said, 323 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:40.360 why do you think you or your ilk have anything 324 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.120 to offer you besides a plane ticket and a boring experience? 325 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.759 And from there it's just like gone out of control. Yeah, 326 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:48.240 because this is a guy that I've sat down face 327 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.279 to face and talk with, but he treated me like garbage. 328 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:53.960 So I'm like, well, here we are now years later, 329 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:57.360 and I'm just calling you out on playing your role 330 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.639 in whatever culture war you think you're a part of. 331 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:01.440 And it didn't go good for him. 332 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:04.159 People are He just kept he just kept like responding, 333 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:05.399 and it was weird because it was like he just 334 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.399 kept getting you know, the ship slapped at you over 335 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:12.679 and over again, and he just keeps insisting on interacting 336 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:15.600 with Top, with me, with Tower, getting you know, with 337 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:17.759 all these different people who just keep bodying him. 338 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.200 It was it was just can't stay away, dude, he's 339 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:23.960 like a glutton for punishment. Or y'all are actually helping 340 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:25.960 his statistics very. 341 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.679 Well, Yeah, he doesn't need No, we're not helping his metrics. 342 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:30.960 I mean, this guy, if you look at his if 343 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:34.200 you're talking about like the pay on Twitter for engagement. 344 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:35.600 No, I'm saying making him relevant. 345 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.600 Yeah, I mean he's part of a cultural conversation right now, 346 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.519 just because of the Daily Wire thing. But you know, 347 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:44.559 what we kind of were for him was like, you know, 348 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.399 the ghost of Christmas Future. Like there's all these other 349 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:50.960 ghosts in the Christmas Carol movie and then there's the 350 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.679 really scary one, which is the Ghost of Christmas Future. 351 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:55.360 Essentially that was us. 352 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.200 We were haunting Tim and he was able to, I think, 353 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:01.840 look down the line, realize that the cultural ball was 354 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:04.879 getting ripped out of his hands and it was being 355 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:09.639 done by rather despicable retards, and I think he could 356 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:12.000 kind of you know, it's a good thing, it's. 357 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:13.720 A healthy thing. I don't again, I don't hate Timpool. 358 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:16.759 I think that he's a little egotistical, but who isn't sure. 359 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:20.279 Look, I think there's probably some there's probably some like 360 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:23.360 company lines that he can't cross, especially if he is 361 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.080 about to go onto the daily wire. So it's kind 362 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.919 of like unfair because he can't say certain things. Maybe 363 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:31.679 he can't say what he actually wants to say. And 364 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:34.279 you guys are just having the fucking time of your lives, 365 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:38.559 going absolutely insane with saying whatever you want. So I 366 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.639 can imagine how that could turn you into an old 367 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:42.399 frustrated man, you know what I mean. 368 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:45.039 Well, let's put on the imagine theory hat, but David, 369 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:47.519 imagine this though. I'll just reread that tweet again because 370 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:49.320 it's it's it's at the crux of I think what 371 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.720 everybody here does and why people listen in general. The 372 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.559 is the intention to destroy all opportunities for yourself so 373 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:59.279 that when people start avoiding you, you can blame the Jews, 374 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:01.679 is what he's telling me. And it's a straw man, 375 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.599 of course, but it's an admission where it's like, ah, 376 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.599 you've gotten like like, look, we have a microphone and 377 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:10.599 an ability to speak into the ether, and people will 378 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.440 listen possibly if you're speaking you know well enough. Let's 379 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.640 just say that's a good word to use. And you're 380 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:20.319 no longer able to do that because you're talking about 381 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.400 your connections. You're talking about being I don't give a 382 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:25.319 fuck if you remove me from society I used to 383 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:28.119 work from. I've been removed from society a bunch of times. 384 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:29.920 I used to work for Odyssey. I got fired for 385 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.279 liking Jordan Peterson with my name. Okay, and this was 386 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:36.359 a free speech company. This is not there's nothing to 387 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:38.920 gain from other people. It's about me. Like if I 388 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:41.640 can build something myself, people will follow. And I think 389 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:44.119 it's pretty much been proven here. But you know, you 390 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:45.920 can go down that path. You can get millions of 391 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:49.519 shekels or whatever Federal Reserve notes. It doesn't quite matter 392 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:51.880 because you can't do what you want to do. It's 393 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:52.799 it's really sad. 394 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:55.680 I think it's indicative too, of something that's changing. I'd 395 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:59.200 like to get you know, your your opinions on this. 396 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:01.799 It feels like we're at the cusp of a of 397 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:05.960 a baton pass in a big way from these you know, 398 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:08.319 we saw it happen with legacy media, and then the 399 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:10.519 baton was passed to like these big talking heads in 400 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:14.880 alternative media spaces, and now even still because the world 401 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:17.839 has disseminated into such a level of madness that the 402 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:20.960 mainstream media narrative is certainly not cutting it, and even 403 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:23.279 alternative media's narrative isn't cutting it, or at least the 404 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:25.559 ones that we had previously, And so because all. 405 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:28.559 Of them are swayed, that alternative media is it's but 406 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:30.920 they're very open about it, right, Like, for instance, on 407 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:35.079 this show, I would consider us alternative media in whatever. 408 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.960 We have a conservative leaning, but we're very open about that. 409 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:42.000 We're not die hard Trumpsters. We don't call him the 410 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:44.480 Savior by any means. But like, when somebody listens to 411 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:47.119 this show, they already know what they're getting. And so 412 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.400 like I understand why people looking at the mainstream we 413 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:51.880 could call that all lie right out right, The baton 414 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:55.880 gets passed to Rogan, the baton gets passed to I 415 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:59.359 mean in a certain regard, Tempoole, in a certain regard 416 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:02.240 Russell Bray and all these people that are like and 417 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.400 not even just conservative. There's liberal talking heads on the 418 00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:07.160 other side of this, that alternative media, and they're just 419 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:10.680 echo chambering it in and of themselves, right, and then 420 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:13.640 there's like us, who are this weird gray area where 421 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:15.680 we kind of fuck with everybody, but we also don't 422 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:16.519 fuck with anybody. 423 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.160 And the answer to anybody, which is I think more 424 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:21.359 important because it allows you to pass that through a 425 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:23.799 filter of like whatever your genuine opinion is, instead of 426 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:26.319 manicaeving to go through like business acumen and whether or 427 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:27.960 not this is going to hurt your bottom line. 428 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:30.519 You just pass it through the filter of is this 429 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:32.920 something that I find interesting or believe this. 430 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:35.640 Is the thing that's important too, that creators that are 431 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:38.359 our size needs to realize. You might think that you're 432 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:40.400 like a smaller account, but you're a moving culture on 433 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:43.079 a weird level. And I've done it multiple times now. 434 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:45.359 It's to the point where he has to address you 435 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.599 like I'm not big, Like obviously I'm not Timpool big. 436 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:51.960 Doesn't make any sense, but the conversation and then they 437 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:53.640 look at who's leading it and they're like, oh, this 438 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:56.119 guy's been there. They have to address it. That's why 439 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:58.240 he blamed me for the anti war movement. I was 440 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.039 in the Libertarian Party. And then I'm like, you guys 441 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:02.920 are gay. Like after a while, I'm like, you guys 442 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:05.599 are really fucking gay and I think you're wrong, and 443 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:08.240 me saying that, and a couple other people shot that 444 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:10.480 entire party in the foot to the point where they 445 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:14.799 nominated a sodomite and a cop, and it's like, yeah, exactly, 446 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:16.759 they lost their shit. It had nothing to do with me. 447 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:19.079 All I did was say, like, you're making the wrong 448 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:21.480 decisions here. If you want to lead to a better future, 449 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:25.799 you're not. You're being ideological, you're not being living in reality. 450 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:27.799 But that's a tell too, right, the fact that he 451 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.160 said that to you top it's like he believes that. 452 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:33.160 He believes that you and your boys hurt the anti 453 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:36.559 war movement, which is hilarious because it's essentially giving you 454 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:39.359 a disproportionate amount of power in this conversation. 455 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:41.160 So when you're talking about where's. 456 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:43.759 Are, for instance, the Libertarian Party, which I guess I 457 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:46.279 was goofy in twenty eighteen, they were like, oh, you know, 458 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.920 state's rights and we need to respect that. And some 459 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.359 people were saying shit like well, the vaccine is a 460 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:54.480 you know, it's a choice, it's a person. It was 461 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:57.359 never a choice. It was it was I don't want 462 00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:58.960 to get you guys, are you on anywhere you can 463 00:20:58.960 --> 00:20:59.519 get suspended. 464 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:02.680 Fuck no, big dog, sing it, sing it baby. 465 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.160 It was. It was never a choice. It was presented like, oh, 466 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.119 it's a choice, but I lived in New York and 467 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:10.359 it was a choice. But you couldn't do this, this 468 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.359 or that. I couldn't I couldn't go to the store, 469 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:15.000 I couldn't go to events. And at some point my 470 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:16.640 job was going to fire me because they were like, 471 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:18.640 you can't come to the here if you're not that. 472 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:20.440 I wouldn't even tell them my status. They're like, are 473 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:23.519 you vaccinated? Said maybe, and so like they had me 474 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:25.839 doing tests every week. It was but it wasn't a choice. 475 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:27.440 But that's New York though, right you were up there. 476 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:28.759 Yeah, I was in New York. 477 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:31.000 So I'll say this. I can't speak for the whole country, 478 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:34.640 but my section of Louisiana. The CEO of the company 479 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.359 I worked for at the time was kind of toying 480 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:42.359 around with the idea of forcing everyone to get vexed. 481 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:45.160 And it wasn't because he was buying into the narrative. 482 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:48.279 At the time, nobody knew fuck or shit about what's 483 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:50.079 actually going on. We didn't know if this was the 484 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:52.640 next Spanish flu or if this was just a flu 485 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:54.680 you know what I mean. So it was an idea. 486 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.400 Pretty much three quarters of his facility told him, if 487 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:02.240 you do that, you will not have a facility, like 488 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:04.200 we will take this bitch down brick by brick and 489 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:06.559 carry it with us out the door. Fuck you right, 490 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:09.799 So and he listened because he's a good dude. And 491 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:11.599 again it wasn't like he was trying to be that guy. 492 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:13.240 But no, but he's just exploring it. 493 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:15.480 Right, Like at the time where everything's so uncertain, the 494 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:17.680 government is pressuring you all this different shit is happening. 495 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:19.599 It's like, it's reasonable to explore it, but if you 496 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:21.799 think it all the way through, you have to stand online, 497 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:24.079 which is to say, here's not going to invade these 498 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:24.799 people's rights. 499 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:25.160 Now. 500 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.160 The point is that they were They were saying this, 501 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:32.599 and then libertarians would defend them. Goofy like Reasoned magazine 502 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:35.319 and the Cato Institute. These people and very serious people 503 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.759 doctors and shit, they're arguing with me. This is two years, 504 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:41.039 four years ago, and they're like, oh, there's actually a choice. 505 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:42.000 There was no choice. 506 00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:44.200 It was it was a like the mafia kind of 507 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:47.160 coming to you and like forcing you, like, yeah, you're 508 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:48.200 not I'm not for going to. 509 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:50.759 Make you an offer that you are unable to refuse, 510 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:51.960 right what you want? 511 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:56.680 Yeah, were coerced, coerced with pressures that are, you know, 512 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:59.759 surrounding the fundamental aspects of your life, your ability to travel, 513 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:03.000 your ability to make money, right, the most fundamental aspects 514 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:05.160 of being able to carve a living out. 515 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:07.240 Those are the things that it hinges on. So no, 516 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:09.200 technically you can whatever. 517 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:10.960 You can exist like a pariah in your home and 518 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:13.240 never go out again and hopefully collect some unemployment checks 519 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.359 or some COVID checks, whatever the hell's going on there, 520 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:17.839 but you can't partake in civilized society. 521 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:19.720 And here's the reason. The reasoning for that for the 522 00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:21.839 libertarians was like, what do you want to do? Make 523 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.440 a law? Were we out like ban people from doing that? 524 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:27.559 And I'm like, so there's so against government that they're 525 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:31.519 against making a law that bans government from each like 526 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.160 an animal home. So I'm like, you guys are fucking clowns. 527 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:37.400 And then I started disassembling you piece by piece with comedy, 528 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:40.240 and it's apparently it's almost impossible for you to like 529 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:43.000 fight this because we were at the point David actually 530 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:45.799 came to perform with Tower Gang. The Libertarian Party of 531 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:49.839 Georgia invited us to roast the They did a political 532 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.000 debate for who would be the presidential nominee, and then 533 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:54.240 right after we went and we went on, it's like, 534 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:57.599 you guys can't there's nothing you can do. This party struggling, failing, 535 00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.440 And I guess yeah, in that sense, I did take 536 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:01.680 down the anti war movement with a fucking comedy show. 537 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:02.559 But you deserved it. 538 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:06.039 The QAnon community had this same thing a couple of 539 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:09.359 years back, right. A couple of them found a true 540 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:12.000 pedophilic rings that were going on, and they reported to 541 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:14.799 the local police that arrested these people. It wasn't like 542 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.240 political leads at the top. I forget what the situation was, 543 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.720 but they were. They found some things, yo, for real, 544 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:22.720 They brought it forward and they were ostracized by the 545 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.480 q Andon community. I can't believe you became a boot liquor. 546 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:28.200 You reached down to the cops. So it's like, Bro, 547 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:30.720 can you actually pull your head from your ass for 548 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:33.640 two seconds and realize that they just helped save children. 549 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:36.519 You're mad because they went through the law. 550 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.039 Fuck off, dude. 551 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:42.000 I think a lot of these people are also experiencing 552 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:45.480 this downswing because of their inability. It's like we put 553 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:47.839 our trust in alternative media. To some extent, it was 554 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.599 better placed there than it was within mainstream media. But 555 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:53.200 during the whole COVID debacle, we saw all these people 556 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:55.839 that were looking to as the ones wh were supposed 557 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.960 to be outspoken against all this shit. They kept fumbling 558 00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:59.920 the ball. They were pussy footing, they were too soft 559 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.519 and not didn't want to jump to conclusions. Meanwhile, the 560 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:04.680 entire country, the world was getting locked down and people 561 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:09.079 were getting you know, coerced experimental inoculations, and you know, 562 00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:13.720 it's like I look to Joe Rogan and it was 563 00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:15.880 just too slow, it was too slight. I'm not saying 564 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:17.680 that that is indicative of him being a bad guy, 565 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.319 but it was like I was catching things in real 566 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.359 time that he was talking about months down the line. 567 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:26.319 I knew about hydroxychloroquin as. I was in the hospital 568 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.400 with my son and it was like March, so, March 569 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.799 twenty fifth, twenty twenty, I'm in the hospital. I'm looking 570 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.839 up like possible solutions for this because the world had 571 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:38.680 just shut down, right, yeah, And they didn't figure that 572 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:40.720 shit out. It didn't become a thing until like two 573 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:41.599 months later, where it's like. 574 00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:45.359 To talk about implementation on a political or a medical 575 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.880 level is way downstream from the conversation. The conversation isn't 576 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:51.119 even being had until like too little, too late. 577 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.759 So, you know what, I think Rogan does that strategically 578 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:55.880 because he's aware of how big he is, and he 579 00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:57.640 knows that if he says some off the wall shit 580 00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:00.599 that he did for himself personally, there's millions of people 581 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.039 that will follow suit and if that plays out bad, 582 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:05.119 he could be liable and they So I think that 583 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:06.839 he plays it kind of close to the chest and 584 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:09.240 he will talk about it later on when things fine. 585 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:12.039 Well that's the way to protect his ass, I guess. 586 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.000 And then the problem with that is we're in a 587 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.920 time where the conversation matters more dramatically than it ever has. 588 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.720 So fuck these people because if they're not gonna have it, 589 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:24.359 then somebody else needs to have it. So if Tim 590 00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.519 Poole's not gonna have it when it fucking matters, then 591 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.880 fuck Tim Poole. If Joe Rogan's not gonna have it 592 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:31.119 when it matters, then fuck Joe Rogan. And I'm saying 593 00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:32.039 you gotta hate these guys. 594 00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:35.039 But I'm saying, Jordan Peterson, you know it's I name 595 00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.319 myself top Lobster from the first chapter of his book. 596 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.640 But if he's gonna go and say, hey, Trude, doah, 597 00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:42.759 I took your damn vaccine and now give me back 598 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.279 my rights, is like, you're the guy who also said 599 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.359 don't bargain with terrorists, like that was a whole part 600 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.759 of your book, don't don't give them an inch, And 601 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:52.519 here you are doing that. So it's like, all right, 602 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.519 next shooter, You're gone. Next person up. This is why, 603 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.279 I guess is what got me into this weird conspiracy space. 604 00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:01.480 And it sounds like it it's political, right, it comes 605 00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:05.559 from this weird, weird gay political yeah uh birth, but 606 00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.119 you kind of have to eventually end up where we're 607 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:08.480 at now. 608 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:09.039 Yeah. 609 00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:13.079 People find the truth from different ways. Sometimes it's politically based. 610 00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:15.319 Sometimes I know veterans that came back from the war 611 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:19.279 and that's what started their conspiracy slash truth or mindset 612 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.319 was because they saw at firsthand of what bullshit was right. 613 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.119 And not always guys in the front lines kicking doors. 614 00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:27.359 I mean, like the fucking uh, the legal and logistics 615 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:29.359 guys are the dudes that were moving stacks of cash 616 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:31.599 from Saddam's palace to over here. Wait, why did he 617 00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.799 have fifty thousand pallets of US dollars just on? It 618 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.079 was stuff like that that kind of started people's conversations. 619 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:40.960 Then the vaccine was another one, then the fucking election 620 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.400 being racked. So it's like people come to it sometimes 621 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:47.079 from political, sometimes from medical, sometimes personal experiences. But it 622 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.200 gets to a point and like you said, we get 623 00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.480 to a point where we're undeniable. Like you may not 624 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.880 like us, you may you may hate the shit we 625 00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.799 talk about, but you can't deny what the fuck we're 626 00:27:57.839 --> 00:27:58.480 doing here. 627 00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.960 Right, And I think that's why we're finding the success 628 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.440 that we are finding. But like I said, man, it's 629 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.039 happening so fast. You just named a few things. The 630 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.799 news cycle is turning over so fast. We cannot risk 631 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.400 waiting to have these conversations. We can't risk or we 632 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.000 can't wait until it's safe, when it's good for us 633 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:19.279 to have these kind Let me tell you you have 634 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.119 to have these conversations while they're dangerous. 635 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:23.799 I'll tell you a quick story. So our boy Clint 636 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.400 Liberty lockdown and he's like big name the political space 637 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.640 he got a Pfizer whistle blow whistleblower about maybe last year, 638 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:32.839 pretty much when we first started the show in Nephlum 639 00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.000 des Squad, Yeah, and he has her on and she's 640 00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.519 talking about how basically they knew that it would have 641 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.680 bad side effects and yahda yah and there's like paperwork 642 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.480 to prove that they knew beforehand but still went through 643 00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.119 and push it through anyway. And it's a thirty minute interview. 644 00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.200 Go back there and watch it. He goes, now, in 645 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:54.079 your opinion, why do you think these companies are doing this? 646 00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:57.119 And she just goes like this, Clint, are you aware 647 00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:59.559 of the Nephilum? And he almost falls out of his 648 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.119 seat because he's calling us retarded and crazy for like, 649 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.880 you know, I was talking about the Nephelin probably for 650 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.480 like six or seven months before we even started the show. 651 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:09.440 And he's just like writing me off as Yeah, you're 652 00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.400 you're a week retard, you're conspiracy theorist. And this lady 653 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.960 with all these you know, credentials comes on his show 654 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.359 and she's breaking down all the freaking numbers of this virus. 655 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:22.079 My favorite moment of that show, so the back and 656 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.720 just watching his eyes when when she says that, because 657 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.839 it's like, it's not like his eyes popped open, but 658 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.119 you could just read that behind them, he's thinking of 659 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.079 top he's thinking of Nephelin desk squad, and he's like, 660 00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:31.839 are you fucking kidding me? 661 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:35.599 So she was basically saying that, like the the vaccine 662 00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.119 companies were essentially playing the roles of. 663 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:40.839 The fallen angel more or less, what she was saying 664 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.160 was that the implications of this are spiritual, and she 665 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.599 thinks that there's genetic implications to the vaccination. 666 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.680 And when you start to ask, well, what of what variety? 667 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:52.960 Well that was her answer. 668 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.440 Then is like first she asked him if he was religious, 669 00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.400 and he said sort of a agnostic, and then she said, well, 670 00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.240 let me tell you something about the nephilim. And so 671 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.279 it was she touched on it, and you could tell 672 00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:04.319 she's a Pfizer whistleblower. This is an employee from Pfizer. 673 00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.599 She has to maintain some level of of you know, 674 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.960 intellectual integrity, so she doesn't go down that pipe too far. 675 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.319 But she did drop that bomb on his lap. This 676 00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.880 this thing that we're moving towards, we're talking about how 677 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.640 the new cycles happening so fast you have to talk 678 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.759 about these things while they're dangerous. There's a guy. I'm 679 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:24.079 not going to get into it too much because we 680 00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:29.440 beat Alad this guy Segway time. I'm not gonna beat 681 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:31.680 it to death too badly because we have dragged this 682 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.960 body through the streets on our show, on Sam Tripley's show. 683 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.000 But there is a gentleman named Cliff High and long 684 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:39.920 story short, there everybody have a drink. 685 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:41.079 Long story short. 686 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.000 He creates a webbot that scrapes data off the Internet 687 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:45.720 and he uses that data to make predictions. 688 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:46.920 Hold on, are you guys aware of this? 689 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:49.519 I don't know what he does. 690 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:51.960 Well, he said that the Joe Rogan Donald Trump was 691 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.359 the lynchpin towards making this weird future possible. 692 00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:58.119 Yes, that's a great way to put it. That's a 693 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.839 great abridged version of it. So you know this does happen. 694 00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:04.960 But one of the things that's in his data set 695 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.319 that he's predicting is that we're on the cusp of 696 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:13.680 a time where legacy media fully dies. And then what 697 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.640 ends up happening is there are all these would be 698 00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:19.920 sponsors and investors who are still looking to control the narrative. 699 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:24.839 They're going to be looking at us and during this time, 700 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.640 a lot of us this is you know, all allegedly 701 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:28.720 take it with a grain of salt. 702 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.960 A lot of his predictions don't come true, although some 703 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:31.359 of them do. 704 00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.640 Oh, I'm not laughing at the prediction, POD laugh at 705 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.759 the thought of like a Fizer coming and knocking on 706 00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:40.960 our door to be like, listen, I know what you've 707 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:43.480 been saying, but I have a really large check and 708 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:45.200 I'm just I'm picturing my response. 709 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.160 I'm sorry, yes about the number. What's the number? 710 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.079 The number is so that I could tell everybody what 711 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:53.160 number I turned down. 712 00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.119 Because what is beautiful is that we're in a sort 713 00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:59.039 of a this really amazing era where as a content 714 00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:00.519 creator you can make a tremendou amount of money. You 715 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:03.839 don't need these people at all. But he's saying that 716 00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:05.960 a lot of us are going to get co opted 717 00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.799 during this time. And I think that if you look 718 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.319 at the way people are treating big shows like you know, 719 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:17.839 Tim Cast, Irl of course, any of the actual legacy 720 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.920 media company CNN, Fox and all this other stuff, you 721 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.279 can imagine those big ones would die off and then 722 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:26.119 there would be the upper echelon of alternative media your 723 00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:27.480 Tim's and what have you. 724 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.079 And those people I guess are being bought off right now. 725 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.759 Well they're dying. It's because they've been. I don't know 726 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.400 if they've been bought or if they've been here's the thing, 727 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:40.440 And I'll be fair to Tim because I went to 728 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.119 his place and what. I'm a business guy, so when 729 00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.119 I saw what he's doing, I really respect it. And 730 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.480 I know a lot of his employees. They're great people. 731 00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.960 But when you're running a business and you have employees 732 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.640 that you've got to pay, that could be enough for 733 00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:56.440 you know, it's not like, oh, he's taking all this 734 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:58.319 money and it's like oh, but it could be enough 735 00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:00.799 for YouTube to just their censors to be like, hey, listen, 736 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:04.480 you're not going to say this and that, because if 737 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.640 you do, then we're going to cut your revenue and 738 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.319 you have to fire half these people without YouTube revenue. 739 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.079 And you know what just is hugely. 740 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.160 Scary to them if you are some sort of like 741 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.039 remnant of the status quo and you're trying to maintain 742 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.119 control over the narrative and so you're looking to alternative 743 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:25.880 media sources and you're going I have the money to 744 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:28.160 put these people on and control them, and then you 745 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.200 look over to guys like us, and we're throwing Brohemian 746 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.519 Grove without anybody. We're doing big numbers without anybody. We're 747 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.480 doing you know, six shows a week without any sort 748 00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.160 of backing. We're getting all these opportunities. We don't need 749 00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:46.240 this apparatus that seemingly the previously existing model did need. 750 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.559 We don't need that anymore. So, honestly, I think that as. 751 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:51.359 Funny as it is, like Brohemian Grover up there, we're 752 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.359 talking about adrenachrome and all this fun stuff, and people 753 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:55.720 are wearing cloaks and it's got a comedy bent to it. 754 00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:00.799 That is real culture. That is the beginning of cold movements. 755 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.599 That is not indicative to doing business if you are 756 00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:04.480 of the old dude. 757 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.760 There's a there's a picture of Tim Cast and he 758 00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:11.480 did a live event with Dave Smith, who's like, I mean, 759 00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:12.880 half a million follows on Twitter. 760 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.679 I love Dave Smith. Again, don't like every single thing 761 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.960 he ever says, but as far as like shutting down 762 00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.960 a loud mouth, let Dave Smith cook, you know the best. 763 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:22.840 He's the best at it. I know Dave personally. I 764 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:24.840 used to work for him, work with him and. 765 00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:26.920 He's been able to hang with. I feel like he'd 766 00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:27.960 be a cool dude to hang with. 767 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.119 He's he's very like low key chill now because he's 768 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:32.840 got like a kid. But he'll hang with you a 769 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.400 little bit. He's not he's not gonna be out late. 770 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.519 But yeah, Dave is great. And uh, you know Legion 771 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:43.239 to skanks guys like, yes, Lewis is Lewis is the 772 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:44.679 homie I used to I've heard he. 773 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.760 No, no, no, he likes to party. I'm yeah, he'll 774 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.440 if he's going to hang with If I'm rolling with him, 775 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.039 I'm understanding, like we may get arrested tonight, and like 776 00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:54.599 that's okay. 777 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:56.119 You know you're gonna fight. 778 00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.000 You're gonna fight an nouv driver. At the very least. 779 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.840 Saying about Dave, you were saying how he went with Tim. Yeah, yeah, 780 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:06.840 he did an event with Tim, and it's like no 781 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.559 one's in the audience. They had like forty people of 782 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:12.800 this gend people just sitting there, And I'm like, that's crazy. 783 00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:13.480 How does that. 784 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.000 There's this whole wave going on as well, where even 785 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.079 if someone is shown full fledge that like whatever you've 786 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.280 been saying is incorrect, and I don't mean disrespectfully, not 787 00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:27.719 even skull dragging, like legitimately with facts and logic and things. 788 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:30.880 The things you have been saying for years is incorrect, 789 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.119 and it's time for you to acknowledge that and like 790 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:36.280 not pack it up and quit your job, but maybe 791 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.639 shift gears a bit, maybe enhance some things. Did y'all 792 00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:44.079 hear about the the art Antarctic journey that was just taken. 793 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.840 I didn't hear about that, you know, the entire scope 794 00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:51.239 of this. A pastor paid thirty five thousand dollars. For 795 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.159 some reason, people think, well, you just can't go to 796 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:55.599 an article. Yeah you can, You actually can't. There's never 797 00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.159 been anything against that. You can't go to certain areas 798 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.840 because it's really fucking dangerous as a giant floating glacier 799 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.239 and they don't want you to walking out and dying, right, 800 00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:05.599 But like you can you can go to Antarctica. You 801 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.840 really can't. And so this pastor did. He bought a 802 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:12.039 ship and he brought half of them were round earthers, 803 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.079 half of them were flat earthers, and they're. 804 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.519 On a Austin Witz. It's he's did reply to me, 805 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:18.719 he might come on the show. He's one of the 806 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:20.239 people that went down he's a flat earth or that 807 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:20.639 saw it. 808 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.840 But yeah, and so so this is my question to them. 809 00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.880 There was a couple of them that went that acknowledged that, 810 00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.679 like this, all right, I'm wrong, Like this is this 811 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:32.880 is a flat I thought it was flat. This can't 812 00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.440 happen on a flat plane. So I don't know what 813 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.039 to call it. And they weren't confirming it's round, but 814 00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:40.360 they were at least understanding that it's not flat and 815 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:41.000 that they were wrong. 816 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.039 No it I don't know they correct. 817 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.960 The model of the flat earth that they thought it 818 00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.800 was doesn't calculate with the twenty four hour son. 819 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.280 That's my point. And so instead of acknowledging, hey, maybe 820 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.239 I'm wrong because this entire thing is stupid, they're like, 821 00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.159 we just have to build a different model that makes 822 00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.079 this work. Like bro, y'all don't understand how many an 823 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.039 extra hoops you're jumping through Okham's razor on this bitch, 824 00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:03.760 Like fuck. 825 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.760 There are a lot of people on there that are 826 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.000 actually going after that guy. 827 00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.119 I can't remember the guy's name, but went. 828 00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:15.159 It's it. 829 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.920 Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of people going after him, 830 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:21.519 like all of the hardcore, die hard flat earthers are 831 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.920 fucking common for his head and they're like, hold on, 832 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.599 Like the video didn't make sense. There was like weird 833 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.440 shadows that seemed like they were you know, editing uh together. 834 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:34.480 Picture that I saw where all the shadows of the 835 00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.119 equipment were casted in different directions of that, I'm retarded, 836 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:38.559 and I don't know that's perspective. 837 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.360 That's like, yeah, that's fairly simple to if the sun 838 00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:43.559 is here and and you're like looking at it's gonna 839 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:44.599 cast it, that's that's. 840 00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.239 Yeah, Like I thought that all proof. 841 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.519 They're all wearing these crazy sunglasses, bright as fuck, the 842 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.679 snow is reflec Yeah, there are so many things. But 843 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.760 even still, we're talking about a professional, a group of 844 00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:01.000 professional flat earthers that were brought there. It's not like 845 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:02.400 they found a guy that was kind of on the 846 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:04.519 fence about it. These dudes have made their money off 847 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.559 of this. For them to say that this is no 848 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.320 longer the case and for them to turn on I'm like, y'all, 849 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:13.280 y'all could just acknowledge that you're wrong. Like so at 850 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.199 one point the world blow, I believe the moon was 851 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.320 made of cheese, and then they acknowledged it was wrong. 852 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:18.960 It's okay, man, I. 853 00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.280 Think though, So here's where I'm at with it. I 854 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:24.679 didn't I wouldn't say I was a flat earther before, 855 00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:26.840 but I was just like, I don't know, maybe, but 856 00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.000 I think for sure, they're lying about the shape of 857 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.679 the Earth, They're lying about problems, They're lying about everything. 858 00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:34.840 Now it's like lying about a lot. We know that 859 00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.159 the math don't math, and like, I am grateful for 860 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:39.039 the flat earth community for blowing the lid off with 861 00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.119 so many other conspiracies like mad respect to it, but 862 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.039 one plus one does not equal three, no matter which 863 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:46.440 angle you're looking at it. I'm sorry. 864 00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:48.519 So you know what the problem is here. It's it's 865 00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.880 the same thing as like the Billy Carson thing, right, 866 00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:52.320 and so many of the other people. 867 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:52.519 Right. 868 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:55.840 The culture is changing in such a way it's become 869 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:59.000 very obvious that these conspiracies deserve more credence than we've 870 00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.320 been willing to give them. Now now I've been saying 871 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.960 this two people like Dave Smith, to people like Clint Russell, 872 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:05.559 I've been saying, if you don't have this is just 873 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:07.519 one anecdotal aspect of it. If you don't have an 874 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:11.039 opinion on aliens ets, whatever you want to call them. 875 00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.199 You've got a real problem because you never gave this 876 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.239 thing any credence, And soon the government is going to 877 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.239 tell you a narrative and you're gonna have to enjoy 878 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:19.760 that before you can get your shit together and do 879 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.320 enough research to catch up. There are people that have 880 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.599 dedicated all of their time to one thing and now 881 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.159 cannot pivot. So when they're shown something that's you know, 882 00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.159 flies in the face of that, Like let's say Billy 883 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:35.119 Carson when he gets exposed for misrepresenting ancient texts, for 884 00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:39.159 misquoting them, for flat out lying to some out whatever 885 00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.079 they say, all these different things. The problem is you 886 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:47.119 pitched yourself as an expert. You pitch yourself as Onunaki daddy, 887 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:48.760 you know what I mean, And now the. 888 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:52.039 Problem is almost expert on ancient scrolls, text and tablets. 889 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.280 That was exactly over Honestly, the. 890 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.800 We've been David, We've been in the right place at 891 00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.320 the right time for so like just for about everything. 892 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.199 Because we went on Luke Rakowski Show. Yeah, this is 893 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.639 when Clinton was still a co host on it. And 894 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.119 they do this thing at the end where they're like, Okay, 895 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:12.159 just leave a random question for the next person that's coming, 896 00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.920 and we might have asked who it is, or I 897 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.480 think we did, and they were like, oh, Billy Carson, 898 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:17.119 I was like, I don't. 899 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:18.639 Know this black I know, Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah. 900 00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:22.880 So our question to the next guest was, why do 901 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:26.159 demon why do aliens flee? 902 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.960 I said, all is the aliens, cryptids and demonic encounters. 903 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.719 Why do they all flee at the name of Jesus Christ? 904 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:32.519 No idea? 905 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:33.320 What this dude's about? 906 00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:36.400 Yeah, that was the random question. Y'all asked the Billy Carson. 907 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:39.320 Don't talk about a ten out of ten Hail Mary. 908 00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.079 You know, but this is a blindfolded Let's let Jacob 909 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.360 and Jonathan's guests give me a couple of guesses. 910 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:46.400 What you what do you think? 911 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:50.239 He said, John, I have my own opinion, but it's 912 00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.559 gonna sound like I'm being shitty towards him. Jonathan, what 913 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:53.679 do you think Billy's thought? 914 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:54.599 That's what we were doing here? 915 00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:55.719 What do I think that? 916 00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:02.440 Billy Carson's response to that question was yes, I did. 917 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:06.639 He probably say that you believe in the name of Jesus. 918 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.119 You believe that in the Holy power of Jesus so 919 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.880 much that essentially it emulates you know that, uh, basically 920 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.360 the antithesis to fear, right, Like, so whenever you have 921 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:21.159 like a shitload of fear, some people will create demonic entities. 922 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:23.800 And if you say the name of Jesus, maybe it's 923 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:26.320 the absolute opposite of that, and that's what drives it 924 00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:27.440 away more. 925 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.280 I can also see him bringing up Inci and in 926 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.639 Lil for no fucking reason that no one asked for. 927 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:34.400 I could see him bringing in some Anonachi as well. 928 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:36.519 And how that's or what we're seeing is not what 929 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.800 you're seeing, it's looking at something else is presenting itself. 930 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:39.599 I could see all that too. 931 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.320 Yeah, yeah, And it was more or less. 932 00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.400 That idea of like creating an agrigor and that we 933 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.840 as human beings are so spiritually powerful that we can 934 00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.880 create this like defense mechanism and and it'll protect us 935 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.519 from these things that are real but are not what 936 00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:54.639 we think they are, which is hilarious because I look 937 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:56.360 at that and they go, it is real, but not 938 00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:57.119 what you think they are. 939 00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.400 But just funny because that's actually what I believe too. 940 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.000 As far as this issue with that is, and I 941 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.519 don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's it's it's 942 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.880 the problem is when you're pitching yourself as an expert 943 00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.519 and you've built an entire career and you're essentially like 944 00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:12.559 some sort of millionaire off the back of this kind 945 00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.239 of data, instead of tempering it with this is what 946 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.079 the data suggests to me, although I'm not too sure, 947 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.840 because how could you be too sure? So my thing 948 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.280 to that is right in the Bible, it says Jesus 949 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:26.119 Christ gives you the authority to tread on serpents of 950 00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:28.280 scorpions through his name. He gives us the it's a 951 00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.000 very it's a very simple explanation. He came, he died 952 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.400 for our sins. He he made it so that he 953 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.800 is the way to the Father. But he also gave 954 00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.400 us the ability to tread on this dark spiritual realm 955 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.280 and the the It almost seems like mental gymnastics in 956 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:43.079 the other direction. 957 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:45.599 You know what I mean to have to like triple double. 958 00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:50.159 Backflip and say that we're creating this this aggrigor when 959 00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:53.159 there's so much he was so much evidence for the 960 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:53.880 guy existing. 961 00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:55.679 Sorry, go ahead. 962 00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:57.559 If he would have presented himself like this is my 963 00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.920 opinion of it now, I don't know, but I think 964 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:03.199 dot run off, you know, go off on it. If 965 00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:05.000 you're going to present yourself as some sort of like 966 00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.960 learned expert who has no credentials by your name other 967 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:11.039 than a few small degrees that have nothing to do 968 00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:15.039 with anything that also can't really be verified. That's like 969 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.400 your boy, uh, what's his name, Terrence Howard coming on 970 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:19.559 saying he had a doctorate from that college of something. 971 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.400 If you go to that college, they don't offer a 972 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.079 doctorate program in that field. So it's like it's gooobe 973 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.239 in behavior, it's exact behavior. No Kube blessed me onto 974 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:27.760 his name. 975 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:28.119 That's right. 976 00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.360 I'm not even saying that I hate those ideas or anything. 977 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.519 And I think within so many different belief systems there 978 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.199 are elements of truth or else you couldn't build something 979 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.159 compelling off of them. The foundation needs to have some 980 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.000 elements of truth in order for re to all stick 981 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.199 together and make something compelling that's going to draw people in. 982 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.480 But it's just when you when you don't temper these 983 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:48.719 things with I'm not sure, I'm not positive. It's like, 984 00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:50.639 how could you know you were not there? 985 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.920 The problem with with his explanation really is that he 986 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:56.840 what he said was a lot of words to describe 987 00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.199 what Jonathan just just expressed. But what he what it 988 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.880 felt like he said was Jesus is a faggot. That's 989 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:04.440 what I thought, he told me. And I was like, 990 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.199 I don't like your vibe on it this entire episode. 991 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.320 That's what you've been vibing at, saying that he's either 992 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.440 fake or didn't do anything. And it's like, but that's 993 00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:13.639 what I believe. And now I understand that that's this 994 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.320 is what you believe. But now I'm gonna get real 995 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:16.840 disrespectful with it, you know what I mean? 996 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:18.639 Yeah, and that I might show up at your house 997 00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:20.199 with a slap lawsuit take it out. 998 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:21.440 Well, that's crazy. 999 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:21.639 Is that. 1000 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:25.079 That's the problem with Billy Carson, though, is that he 1001 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:28.800 kind of got popular by skull dragging, or at least 1002 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:33.079 his own version of skull dragging Christianity, Like that's what 1003 00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.239 motivated him. Was too, I'm going to bring up all 1004 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:40.519 this stuff and this will shut the Christians up finally. 1005 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:42.960 And you can't go at it from that way and 1006 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.079 say that you're a spiritual person. You can't go at 1007 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:48.880 it from that way and say that you're some kind 1008 00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:52.320 of expert, especially whenever you're quoting and I love this book. 1009 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:54.719 I love this book that I'm about to mention, But 1010 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:59.719 you can't quote things from the Emerald Tablets of thoth By. 1011 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.719 It's literally a channeled message. Okay, so we don't even 1012 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:06.719 have the tablets, you know what I'm saying. 1013 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.360 It's like because they don't exactly well, I mean, you know, 1014 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.199 let's say that they hypothetically did exist. If they were 1015 00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.719 sitting somewhere and they were being studied by language experts 1016 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.800 and things like that, and they had a physical tablet, 1017 00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:19.960 I would go, this is very interesting. Doesn't mean that 1018 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:21.599 you have to believe it one hundred percent, but here 1019 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.840 is a chunk of history that is incredibly compelling. 1020 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:25.440 How blessed are we to have this thing? 1021 00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:26.000 You know what I mean. 1022 00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:27.159 But that's not what's happening. 1023 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.440 This is secondhand information from a guy who claims to 1024 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.719 have seen them or whatever, and they're not anywhere in 1025 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.400 any kind of collection or anything like that. 1026 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.079 It's a huge issue to be quoting that. 1027 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:41.719 Well, Christians without an opponent, Well, he's trying to drag 1028 00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.440 things and say from the Sinai Bible. You're not even 1029 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.559 saying it right, That's not even how it's called you're 1030 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:48.480 the only one calling it the Sinai Bible or when 1031 00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:50.320 he would do the same thing with the Quran or 1032 00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:52.519 the same thing with the Torah. You're quoting things that 1033 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.840 you know nothing about, and you're acting like you're winning 1034 00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:58.679 because you're fighting with no opponent. You are fancy shadow boxing, 1035 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.719 and if you ever step to a you're a real one. 1036 00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:02.599 This would happen, which. 1037 00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.920 Is exactly which is exactly what happened. Wesley dragged him, 1038 00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:07.719 and there's there is certain. 1039 00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:11.400 I want to say that that Maurice Doriel, he was 1040 00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.440 allegedly remote viewing, and that is something that has been 1041 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.239 done within the CIA. So you know, we've seen the 1042 00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:19.840 the articles. 1043 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:21.079 About papers on it the other day, didn't They just 1044 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:21.880 about how. 1045 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.679 They were remote viewing Mars and they saw large people 1046 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.559 and pyramids and stuff like that. And look, that's not 1047 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.360 to say that it's it's not to say that it's 1048 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.920 a fiction. It's just that remote viewing isn't generally accepted 1049 00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.159 by the public because the only way to confirm it 1050 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:39.400 is to confirm it. 1051 00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:42.039 And if you're a trust me bro more or less 1052 00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:44.719 right like anybody in your point, Jonathan, I'm sorry to 1053 00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.360 cut you off, but I talked about Cliff Hi before 1054 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.719 Cliff High recruited the the help of a CIA employed 1055 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:53.119 remote viewer. 1056 00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:53.719 There you go. 1057 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.079 So to your point, Jonathan, it's it's not something that 1058 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.760 I totally dismissed. I think there's some to it, but 1059 00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:02.800 it's it's it's hard to prove well. 1060 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:06.000 And the idea of in Maurice Doriel, you know, the 1061 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.440 the Atlantean or what is it called the emerald Tablets 1062 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.880 of the Atlantean. Allegedly he got that information and he 1063 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:15.480 said that these emerald tablets that nobody can get their 1064 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.480 hands on the reason why nobody can get their hands 1065 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:21.159 on them is because they are underneath the Pyramids of Giza, 1066 00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.400 and that if you were to dig up under there, 1067 00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:26.880 or maybe there's some kind of hidden tomb or hidden 1068 00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.039 pathway to be able to get to these things. That's 1069 00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.840 allegedly where he remote viewed them, and allegedly that's how 1070 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.480 he would He was able to channel or at least 1071 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.960 read somehow these emerald tablets and stuff like that, which 1072 00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:41.840 is cool, it's it's it's cool, but whenever you you 1073 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:46.400 can't then relate that to archaeology, like these are two different. 1074 00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.239 Realms, right, Well, he's going by doctor Doriel, which is 1075 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.519 a pseudonym that's not even his real name. Doriel is 1076 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.599 not his last name. Uh. And then you also find 1077 00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:56.639 out that most of his key leaders of the cult 1078 00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.039 he started and his ex wife have all come forward 1079 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.239 and said he's full of shit and that all of 1080 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:02.960 this was based in nothing. He doesn't even know what 1081 00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:04.320 remote viewing actually is. 1082 00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.079 Look, the problem is is like, Okay, in the beginning 1083 00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:10.239 of our show, we have a quote from David Ike 1084 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:13.119 that please, I enjoyed David Ike. But the problem is 1085 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.400 he has admitted that a lot of his information comes 1086 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.159 from this moment where he had what almost resembled like 1087 00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.880 a seizure or a stroke. But he essentially is channeling 1088 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:25.599 what he called what he said self identified as ascended 1089 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:29.079 Atlantean masters. Now, I'm not saying that you didn't have 1090 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.119 an experience with something dog That is not at all 1091 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:32.920 what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, how do you 1092 00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.119 trust I think he one hundred percent did. How do 1093 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.239 you trust that these things are what they. 1094 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.760 Say they are? And further, there's hold on wait top. 1095 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.400 I just want to say, through our research, it looks 1096 00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:47.679 to me like Atlantis would have been this highly advanced 1097 00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.440 but highly corrupt civilization that was destroyed in the floods, 1098 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.599 if there's any chance of that being a reality, and 1099 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.679 I'm sure there's a lot of you know, ideas that 1100 00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.119 you can go into, and but it looks like this 1101 00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:02.639 was the heightest ofization, the height of nephelm shit. So 1102 00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:04.719 you mean to tell me that there's a chance that 1103 00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.599 you're channeling entities from an you know, a place that 1104 00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.039 was destroyed in the floods that might have been the 1105 00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:14.800 home to all kinds of creatures and hybrids and Nephlum, 1106 00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:17.079 the offspring of the fall, all these different things, and 1107 00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:18.320 you're telling me that you trust it. 1108 00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:19.480 That's the only problem. 1109 00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.920 And the thing about human beings is when something profoundly 1110 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:27.039 spiritual happens to us, we are often amazed and don't 1111 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.320 think at all to question this thing because it's speaking 1112 00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.199 telepathically in my head. You know, it was this pivotal 1113 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:34.719 moment in my life that forever changed me. I don't 1114 00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:36.599 want to go back and question the nature of this 1115 00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.159 core moment that forever sent me in this direction. So 1116 00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:43.719 I just, you know, maybe he is channeling entities. How 1117 00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:45.599 the hell do you know they're not lying dog. I 1118 00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:48.199 believe you you talk to something, Yes, but did that 1119 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:50.119 something deceive you? And you don't want to talk about 1120 00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:53.280 that idea. I don't think I likes to talk about 1121 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.199 that idea whether or not he was deceived by these things. 1122 00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:58.199 And it's often up to the interpreter too, Like somebody 1123 00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.239 can receive some kind of channeled or have some kind 1124 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.559 of spiritual experience or whatever, but it's hard to really 1125 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.480 interpret things that are going into your head. You're thinking, 1126 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.800 are they my thoughts? Is this other being's thoughts? And 1127 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:12.840 now you're kind of mixing them up and stuff like that. 1128 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:14.840 People will talk to God whenever they pray at night. 1129 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:16.639 I can't tell you how many times, dude. There was 1130 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:19.719 this one time we were like, we were like super 1131 00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:24.000 fucking broke and our credit score was ass but luckily 1132 00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:27.320 we found this place to like go rent out right 1133 00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:31.559 and it was like really cheap. There was no down payment, 1134 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.760 there was no credit check, it was perfect. And this 1135 00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:35.480 was like a long time, it was like ten fifteen 1136 00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.360 years ago something like that, And we went to the 1137 00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:39.519 landlord of that place. 1138 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:40.239 We met with her. 1139 00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.639 She saw us, and I guess she was like disagreeing 1140 00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.199 with She didn't like our vibe or something like that. 1141 00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:48.719 And so whenever we asked her if we could actually 1142 00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:50.760 sign the agreement, she was like, well, you know what, 1143 00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:53.880 I'm gonna go home and pray about it, and then 1144 00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:55.760 she reached out to us the next day. Yeah, I 1145 00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:59.199 prayed to it, and God told me that that we 1146 00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.639 probably shouldn't go through with this. And in my mind, 1147 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.239 I'm like, you are You're You're blaming God for the 1148 00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.079 decision for not allowing us to come in here. So now, 1149 00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:12.159 you know, that's that's the weirdness about, you know, having 1150 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:16.599 conversations with what you deem as divine beings because it 1151 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:19.719 inflicts upon what your thoughts are and it's kind of 1152 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:20.480 just merging it. 1153 00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:22.960 And that's where it gets weird, you know what I mean. 1154 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:24.880 So, and we're in a place right now too, where it's, 1155 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:26.360 like I was talking about this the other day, you 1156 00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:29.280 get to this point biblically where people are arguing about 1157 00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:31.199 the name of God, is it Yahweh is at Jehovah? 1158 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:32.320 You know, YadA, YadA, YadA. 1159 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:36.199 And what's become very clear to me over the history 1160 00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:38.920 of our show on Neflin Death Squad is that a 1161 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:41.559 lot of these entities are very real, and it seems 1162 00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:43.280 like there's a shit ton of them. In my opinion, 1163 00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.119 spiritual entities are very real, and a lot of them 1164 00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:48.960 are ancient. A lot of them have been around since 1165 00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.760 you know, early man, and they've been deceiving and placing 1166 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.880 themselves as one deity or another over another group of people. 1167 00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.079 I think that if you don't have really clear intentions 1168 00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.079 about who you're talking to, there's no telling who's going 1169 00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:04.920 to respond. That's just my take on the whole thing 1170 00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:10.440 is if you're not if your intention is too abstract, 1171 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.920 it's too wide of a spread, then you're going to 1172 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.679 be potentially communing and getting answers and responses from all 1173 00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.400 sorts of things. And also that attempt to commune with 1174 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:25.000 them acts as a sort of spiritual consent, and it 1175 00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.320 gives them the right they're now allowed to engage with you. 1176 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:29.559 I believe this is I know this all sounds insane, 1177 00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.519 but after all the studying that we've done, it looks 1178 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:35.719 as though even even communication can be form a form 1179 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.079 of consent that opens the door to something much larger. 1180 00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:41.280 And so I think these things are allowed to given 1181 00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.159 the right circumstances lie to you. They're allowed to deceive you. 1182 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:47.000 I mean legally, within this sort of spiritual law fair 1183 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:47.840 that exists, they. 1184 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:49.639 Are allowed the great deceiver. 1185 00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:51.840 Right, Well, I. 1186 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:54.800 Say, Lucifer not present himself as an angel of light. 1187 00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:57.599 It's like so many things that you think you're talking 1188 00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.920 to are probably not what they say they are. 1189 00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.400 I think that you can actually get a lot of 1190 00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:07.280 understanding from this kind of stuff within like sleep paralysis, right, 1191 00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:09.119 Like they say that some people they wake up and 1192 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.039 they're super fucking fear driven, Like they're like, oh my god, 1193 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:12.639 I can't move. 1194 00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.079 I'm like trapped here in this body. I can't do anything. 1195 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.480 If somebody tries to come and attack me, I'm fucked right, 1196 00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.000 And so then the idea is is that your fear 1197 00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:26.639 is essentially like manifesting itself. But then there's also other 1198 00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:29.920 people who have, you know, have sleep paralysis and stuff, 1199 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:31.480 and they're like, oh shit, I'm in sleep paralysis. I 1200 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:33.039 wonder what I can do with this because I hear 1201 00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:34.719 that this is the best way to ask or project 1202 00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:35.840 or whatever. 1203 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.920 Can I tell you guys my sleep paralysis story. I'll 1204 00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:42.400 keep it really a bridge, yeah, please. Is one time 1205 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.480 when I learned that my grandmother was having these sleep 1206 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.320 paralysis experiences, and she ended up reading a book by 1207 00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:53.280 Whitley Striiber called Communion, and it's basically a collection of 1208 00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:58.079 people's abductee testimonies. So she found that a lot of 1209 00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:01.119 those details resonated with her and it really disturbed her. 1210 00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:02.639 She passed away when I was little, but I heard 1211 00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.559 about the story and was told what the book is, 1212 00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:06.760 and so I went and sought it out. I end 1213 00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:10.079 up reading all these stories that also mirror the experiences 1214 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.639 of my other grandma that's not related to her, and 1215 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.519 I realize like, oh shit, this is really weird. This 1216 00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:18.800 is very close to me and my family. So I 1217 00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.199 start asking questions. I find out my dad has had 1218 00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.920 these same experiences. It leads me down this rabbit hole. 1219 00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:26.519 I'm really notice that there's such a thing as hereditary 1220 00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.880 blessings and curses. Yeah, there's also hereditary abilities. 1221 00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:30.800 Yeah. 1222 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.159 I think I've been the recipient of a couple of 1223 00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:34.119 not so great ones. 1224 00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:38.559 So I start to really latch onto this because it 1225 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:40.239 feels so personal, you know what I mean, Like, I 1226 00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:42.679 really love my grandmothers and you know. So I'm going 1227 00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.079 down this trail and I realize logically, I say, hey, 1228 00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:49.159 I'm spending you know, unbelievable amounts of time at the 1229 00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.079 computer researching these testimonies, trying to figure out what these 1230 00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.880 entities are, what this experience is, if there is truly 1231 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:58.480 a psychological aspect to it, which I do believe is 1232 00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:00.800 a function that the body will go into paralysis so 1233 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:03.320 that you're not acting out your dreams. I said, it's 1234 00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:05.360 likely gonna happen to me, because that's just how dreams 1235 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.400 and night works sometimes work. Right, you absorb a lot 1236 00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:10.039 of scary shit, You're bound to have a nightmare. It's 1237 00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:14.840 not rocket science. So sure enough, it does happen. I'm 1238 00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.840 laying in bed next to my girlfriend at the time. 1239 00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:20.679 My head's on one pillow, her head's on the next. 1240 00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:23.880 My eyes pop open and I realize I can't move, 1241 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.280 and it almost has a humorous vibe to it. I'm like, 1242 00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.239 oh shit, it's happening. This is crazy dog. So I'm 1243 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.280 very much in this observation mode. Can't move anything but 1244 00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:35.960 my eyes. So I'm kind of looking around the room 1245 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:37.920 and I'm trying to move my fingers and I'm going 1246 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.760 through this, and all of a sudden I see and 1247 00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:48.159 I'm not I'm not scared. I see a shadow walk 1248 00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:52.039 across my room, and as I look to it, I 1249 00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.320 suddenly feel like someone is slapped me with a taser 1250 00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:58.239 might as well have been, and my body locks up 1251 00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:01.400 even harder than it already was, and I'm full with 1252 00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:06.960 this like this electrical buzzing, high vibration. It's resonating through 1253 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:10.880 my entire body and it's so intense it makes me blackout. 1254 00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:14.840 So I wake up again. But I'm next to my 1255 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.599 girlfriend's feet, but my butt hurts, but my butt hurts 1256 00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:21.440 a lot, right, and I look over to her feet, 1257 00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:23.960 and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Now 1258 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:28.480 I'm facing the other side of the bedroom. I'm still paralyzed, 1259 00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:31.480 and I'm looking at my closet, and my closet only 1260 00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:33.599 has like a sheet in front of it, and there's 1261 00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:38.639 no light source in the closet, yet this unbelievably bright 1262 00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:41.599 white light is pouring out of the closet, and I'm like, 1263 00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:44.360 what the fuck is going on? And I'm so confused, 1264 00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:48.320 and then all of a sudden, the electricity hits me again. 1265 00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:51.039 My body locks up again, and I just pass out 1266 00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:53.039 and I wake up in the morning, and you know, 1267 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:54.480 nothing ever comes to me. I just wanted to tell 1268 00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:57.719 that story, Jonathan, because I came into that in an 1269 00:56:57.760 --> 00:56:59.960 observer's point of view. I did not have any feet, 1270 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.719 and I was still a very logical sound mind of like, Oh, 1271 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:04.960 the thing that I was worried is gonna happen, not 1272 00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.360 even really worried, expectant to happen. 1273 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:08.039 It happened. 1274 00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:10.079 Go figure, because I've been looking into it so much. 1275 00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:14.039 But then something external happens and it brings about a 1276 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.480 feeling of mortal dread that nothing in my waking life. 1277 00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:18.920 Has ever manifested. 1278 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.880 I've been arrested, i've been in jail, I've been in fights, 1279 00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:24.880 I've been in all kinds of horrifying situations, and nothing 1280 00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:27.519 has ever manifested that level of fear. 1281 00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:27.880 It was. 1282 00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:30.840 It was one of mortal dread that I've never been 1283 00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.320 able to. Nothing else compares. In fact, it doesn't feel 1284 00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:36.159 like it was me. It feels like it was put 1285 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:40.360 upon me. If you go into sleep paralysis testimony, you 1286 00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:42.760 will find that is very often the case. And I 1287 00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:46.000 actually do get to the point where I wonder if 1288 00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:49.400 it's a sort of a technology like an infrasound, Like 1289 00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:53.360 there are big cats that can emit such a low 1290 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.639 growl that it'll paralyze small prey, so like oftentimes that 1291 00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.239 they come across like a baby, some sort of fawn that's, 1292 00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:03.840 you know, an infant. It typically doesn't really run away anyway. 1293 00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:07.519 But there's a there's an extended attribute of paralysis that 1294 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:10.159 happens when this low growl is emitted. If you've ever 1295 00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:13.599 heard a gator growl, that's weird as shit. 1296 00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.280 Yeah, you'll like the belly vibration. That's the way they 1297 00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:18.719 kind of do a mating call through the water. 1298 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:19.320 Yeah. 1299 00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:22.000 I think that there is levels to it. 1300 00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:26.599 Listen to this David go Ahead Job chapter four, verse 1301 00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.800 twelve through fourteen. So he says, now, a thing was 1302 00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:32.400 secretly brought to me and mine ear received a little 1303 00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:35.280 thereof in thoughts from the visions of the night when 1304 00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:38.840 deep sleep falleth on men. Fear came upon me and trembling, 1305 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:42.400 which made all my bones to shake. Then a spirit 1306 00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.559 passed before my face, the hair of my flesh stood up. 1307 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.320 And then he continues to go on and say, this 1308 00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:50.440 supernatural experience, but that stuff is biblical, man, that's been 1309 00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:51.719 going on for a long time. 1310 00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:54.440 Yeah, So I know a lot of it has to 1311 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:56.920 do with the person's state of mind and how they 1312 00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.840 perceive these things. But as somebody who was in it 1313 00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:02.800 clear headed, it felt very much like it was put 1314 00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:05.840 upon me as opposed to me having a genuine sensation 1315 00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:08.559 of fear, just because they never had it again and 1316 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:10.360 it was a company to be electricity. 1317 00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:12.599 It could be both. I think I think we could 1318 00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:14.920 do that to ourselves, like this is the state between 1319 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.280 sleeping and waking. But I also think that you know, 1320 00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.599 if Tesla was correct, and if you think about the 1321 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.360 universe and vibration. 1322 00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:27.400 And frequency and energy, was it or something like that, Yeah, 1323 00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:27.840 something like that. 1324 00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.519 Yeah, But I mean, if you know, true masters of 1325 00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:33.599 whatever experience we're going through, I figured out frequency. That's 1326 00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.199 just really all that this is. This is like a 1327 00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.239 heart attack gun but set to sleep paralysis. 1328 00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:41.360 Dudeah, I actually have a probably it, let me tell y'all. 1329 00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:44.360 So actually, whenever we came down there for a Bohemian 1330 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.639 Grove was my first time doing DMT. It was the 1331 00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.280 second night that we were there. I did DMT for 1332 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.199 the very first time, and the first time. 1333 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:51.400 I did it. 1334 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:53.440 Pissed we didn't go to the mini gun range with y'all, 1335 00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:55.320 by the way, Like, I'm pissed that we missed it, 1336 00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:57.599 but at the same time, like this spiritual journey, Well, 1337 00:59:57.639 --> 00:59:59.320 you can't be there on DMT. 1338 00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:00.840 I don't think they, like you said the range engine. 1339 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.239 Oh yeah, Well the reason why we didn't go is 1340 01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:06.599 because we stayed up so late. Everybody was talking about 1341 01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:09.079 their DMT experiences and then we slept in super late, 1342 01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:10.480 so we couldn't go to the gun range with y'all. 1343 01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:12.719 That was really the reason. But anyway, so I did 1344 01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:15.719 DMT the first, uh, the first time, and it was 1345 01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.079 like such a very euphoric feeling, like, oh my god, 1346 01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:21.480 this feels so good. It feels better, It's like a 1347 01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:24.880 thousand orgasms, like how amazing this feels, But it's all 1348 01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:25.480 throughout your. 1349 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:28.760 Body, right, and what you typically hear about when people 1350 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:31.280 tried DMT, it was it was everything and more. 1351 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:34.239 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah it was. It was so amazing. 1352 01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:36.400 But it didn't last very long, you know, And so 1353 01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:39.840 the I guess in my mind, I was like, all right, well, 1354 01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:42.400 I want that to extend a little bit farther, because 1355 01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:46.000 you hear people having these like full on, full life 1356 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:48.800 things that are flashing in their in their head in 1357 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:50.559 just a matter of a few minutes, right, And I 1358 01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:52.599 didn't I got to experience a little bit of that, 1359 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:55.000 but it was it was not that, And so then 1360 01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:57.199 I wanted to double it up the dosage. I doubled 1361 01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.039 up the fucking dosage of DMT, and so I I 1362 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:03.119 went to go smoke it again, and that euphoric feeling 1363 01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:05.000 was even more euphoric. 1364 01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:09.000 However, it was so euphoric that I couldn't handle it. 1365 01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:11.719 And it's very reminiscent of what you're talking about, because 1366 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.920 just the fact that I couldn't handle the level of 1367 01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:18.199 euphoria that was shooting throughout all of my soul and 1368 01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.159 all of my physical being, I couldn't handle it so 1369 01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:25.000 much that it fucking manifested itself into my mind. And 1370 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:27.679 what happened was is that my entire world started to 1371 01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:31.119 fucking deteriorate. And then I thought, oh my god, what 1372 01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:33.400 did I do. This is the worst decision I've ever made. 1373 01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:37.199 And it was so fearful. It was the scared, the 1374 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.639 most scared I've ever been in my entire life. Nothing 1375 01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:43.960 could ever come close to that. I even said afterward that, like, Yo, 1376 01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:47.000 the Devil and Hell ain't got shit on what I 1377 01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:50.880 just experienced, Like it was the scariest thing. And then 1378 01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.519 what happened whenever it all fizzled away, like everything that 1379 01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:56.360 was going on within the DMT dream, Dude, it was 1380 01:01:56.679 --> 01:01:57.519 it was nothingness. 1381 01:01:57.760 --> 01:01:59.000 There was nothing left. 1382 01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:02.239 It was just barely even me, Like I there was 1383 01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:05.280 remnants of me that were left in in this like 1384 01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:09.880 void and dude, it it fucking caused me to literally 1385 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:12.599 question my reality and I still do it every like 1386 01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:13.480 even still to this day. 1387 01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.079 I'm kind of recovering from it. On some shit. 1388 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:16.760 I've you know, I've I've. 1389 01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:19.119 Garnered like Knight of Bohemian Grove Jhona's is on the 1390 01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:20.719 corner of the parking Lott just kind of doing his 1391 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:22.719 own thing. That's because he was having a lot of 1392 01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:25.480 introspective conversations that he's never had. 1393 01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:27.159 To have with himself before, trying to put his life 1394 01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:27.679 back together. 1395 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:28.199 Yeah. 1396 01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:30.519 So that first night that we were over there Brahemi 1397 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:32.679 and Grove like that was before I did DMT. The 1398 01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:35.719 second night for the comedy night, dude, I was out 1399 01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:38.000 of it, Like I couldn't. I didn't even want to 1400 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.840 talk to anybody. I was just like, there's a strong 1401 01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:42.719 chance that this is all a simulation and none of 1402 01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:43.840 this fucking matters anyway. 1403 01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:47.000 That was my actual thoughts went to hell. 1404 01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:48.639 Yeah, I think you did go to hell. 1405 01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:51.840 That's what Jacob said to one of these potential places. 1406 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.519 But I mean that's what Eno speaks about, right. And 1407 01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:57.000 we we do a show called Neffelin Deskwa Chronicles where 1408 01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.800 we had a submission eerally similar to what you just experienced. 1409 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:03.119 Yeah, they're all smoking spice. I think that fucked. 1410 01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:04.880 Oh god, they were smoking spice. 1411 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:07.320 Dude put a pin in it. We had to talk 1412 01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.719 about K two spice. That's like, yeah, very orange before 1413 01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:12.480 you continue. David had an idea, And I know you 1414 01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:14.599 guys do these tremendous deep dives, but I had an 1415 01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:17.480 idea to like both, like me and David do our 1416 01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:19.880 own research deep dive. You do a research deep dive 1417 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.719 on a specific subject. We do a show where we 1418 01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:24.880 all present what we found, like a show and tell. 1419 01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:27.960 But would you guys get into that, like a recurring 1420 01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:30.719 monthly show where we just go like super deep. We'll 1421 01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.480 dive into like some topic. We won't correlate whatever we're researching. 1422 01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:36.320 We'll bring it all to the table together and then 1423 01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:37.840 we'll just unpack some crazy shit. 1424 01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:39.639 Let's give me a time and place. 1425 01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:43.440 Brother, I'm down very cool because we have stumbled upon this, 1426 01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:47.360 this thing with K two Spice. It comes up a lot, 1427 01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:49.679 and in a very short amount of time. It's very strange, 1428 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:51.239 like a matter of two weeks. And now it seems 1429 01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:52.000 like one of the. 1430 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:57.119 Shooters, the guy that the guy that's set that lady 1431 01:03:57.159 --> 01:04:00.760 on fire in sway in the subway, was going, that's 1432 01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:02.519 actually where I grew up. Yeah, right there. I used 1433 01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:05.000 to work in that train terminal, et cetera. On fire 1434 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:07.760 addicted to K two, uhty, K. 1435 01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:08.960 Two is a powerful movie. 1436 01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:10.960 Yeah, Dane Chris CBD. 1437 01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:13.599 When that ship came out, it was like vapable c 1438 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.960 high as fuck, except that was not CBD. There was 1439 01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:20.320 no weed in that motherfucker. That was the same deets 1440 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:22.239 that was in K two Spice with a different flavor. 1441 01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:24.639 I've got a feeling that there's something if we if 1442 01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:26.199 we do a deep dive on this, we're gonna find 1443 01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.599 something nefarious and something very surprising. 1444 01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:30.000 I'm not sure what it is, but it's just what 1445 01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:32.039 my gut tells me. But but I'm already. 1446 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:34.920 Sorry, I'm already like bowls deep in it. So that 1447 01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:38.199 the compound, the main one j w H zero one 1448 01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:40.719 eight that was a name that because it's named after 1449 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.440 John John W. Huffman of Clemson University, and he was 1450 01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.119 researching like cannabinoids and ship. 1451 01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:49.320 Like this and didn't he say he was like, you 1452 01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:50.079 should not smoke. 1453 01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.639 It's his biggest it's his biggest regret that he stumbled 1454 01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:54.760 upon this compound because this ship is like putting people 1455 01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:56.000 in contact with demons. 1456 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.480 It's dude, And that's the that's the testimony that we've 1457 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:00.719 been getting back on NDS Chronic, which is the show 1458 01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:03.639 where people submit they're they're written paranormal testimony. You read 1459 01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:06.079 it and it's like, yeah, smoke K two had a 1460 01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.639 demon attached to me for about a decade. No big deal. Uh, 1461 01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:11.079 And we see that a lot is a weird word 1462 01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:15.719 to use in this situational. 1463 01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:15.920 No big deal is also a big thing to use. 1464 01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:17.559 You had a demon on you for a decade, yo, 1465 01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:20.039 that is a solid chunk of your fucking life. Nobody 1466 01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:23.719 hanging over you. Yeah, yeah, AI's a doctorate. It took 1467 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:25.440 me ten years, No big deal. But that's not a 1468 01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:27.480 little bit well it. 1469 01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:29.639 To be fair, these people definitely did not treat it 1470 01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:31.880 like it was no but they're like, this is fucking horrifying. 1471 01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:34.599 My life has been in shambles ever since smoking spice. 1472 01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:37.360 But I look at people like Rogan with a with 1473 01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:38.960 a high level of skepticism. Now, I don't know if 1474 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:42.239 you guys ever talked to Paul Stobs of Understanding Conspiracy. Yes, uh, 1475 01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:45.960 the guy that yes, and and he does a great 1476 01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:50.960 job of surmising what it is these machine elves gestures 1477 01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.519 and things like that and the d MT realm actually are. 1478 01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:56.599 And he does a great breakdown of it to the 1479 01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:59.639 point where I'm very willing to entertain that where you go, 1480 01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.039 the realm that you see when you're on DMT, or 1481 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:04.639 at least one of the places you may see, seems 1482 01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:08.480 to be a realm where these disembodied spirits of the 1483 01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:14.880 Nephilim are locked in. And they're not always like these horrifying, evil, 1484 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:18.159 demonic things. They're they're kind of these things that shit 1485 01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:20.880 on you. They make fun of you, They ridicule you, 1486 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:23.199 they make you feel terrible about yourself. They also seem 1487 01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:27.840 to want to offer you either information knowledge about yourself 1488 01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:30.800 about technology. Oftentimes, there are people that come back from 1489 01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:33.159 the DMT experience saying like, Yeah, these things were gifting 1490 01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.159 me shit that I just simply could not bring back here, which, 1491 01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:38.079 by the way, to me, sounds like a tale as 1492 01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:40.400 old as time. Every time we look to some deity 1493 01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:43.519 and their relationship with an ancient culture, this deity is 1494 01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:47.119 responsible for teaching agriculture, metallurgy, you know, whatever it is. 1495 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:50.440 They're gifting technology and information in exchange for something else. 1496 01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:54.440 I think that Rogan, especially when you consider like his 1497 01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:59.840 relationship with deprivation tanks and John C. Lilly's findings with 1498 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:04.239 deprivation tanks and doing acid and telepathically communicating with dolphins 1499 01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:06.719 and also jerking them off, I think that there is 1500 01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:09.800 something really weird happening here. I'm not saying that you 1501 01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:13.880 shouldn't do DMT. We tell our audience not to do psychedelics. 1502 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:15.360 And the reason that I say that isn't because I 1503 01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:17.639 don't believe that you can explore psychedelics. I just don't 1504 01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:20.480 know personally where you are, how strong you are in 1505 01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:22.039 your mental fortitude. 1506 01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:23.880 Because yeah, that fucked up Jonathan's whole weekend. 1507 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.280 I mean, yeah, dude, exactly exactly. So I just don't 1508 01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:28.679 know where people are in that moment. I myself have 1509 01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:32.800 done a lot of mushrooms and had experiences that were manageable. 1510 01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:34.679 But I've heard other people do the same amount of 1511 01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:37.679 mushrooms as me and then say that it was completely unmanageable. 1512 01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:38.880 So I don't know. 1513 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.159 Where you are in your spiritual journey, and so I 1514 01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:44.360 call so against it. 1515 01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:46.719 We don't know where you are physically. Now, this is 1516 01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:51.239 a crazy like what I think when you take these 1517 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:56.400 psychedelics or these drugs, these these type of enhancements like methamphetamine, 1518 01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:58.920 I think it matters which locality you are in at 1519 01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:02.239 what you're in physically, Like the upside down, the idea 1520 01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:04.559 of you know, stranger things where you can go through 1521 01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:07.360 this upside down realme. I totally think that that's true. 1522 01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:09.800 That's why these people go to specific lay lines to 1523 01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:12.880 do whatever kind of you know, rituals they're gonna do. 1524 01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:15.119 They do them there. So I don't know where my 1525 01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:18.159 audience is at. If you're in Indiana, definitely don't do that. 1526 01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:21.800 We've been having some crazy stories out of Indiana. People 1527 01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:25.039 making deals with the entity named Ball selling their soul 1528 01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:28.720 create really crazy shit, and not just one, but like 1529 01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:29.479 a slew of them. 1530 01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:32.399 I think about six or seven, six or seven different 1531 01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:37.920 people unrelated to one another, in the same location generally speaking, 1532 01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:41.279 the southern half of Indiana, all telling the same story 1533 01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:45.880 being recruited by some sort of spiritual entity, often times 1534 01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:47.960 and upgraded for some sort of coming war. 1535 01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.119 So that's the idea. They're being recruited for a coming war. 1536 01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:54.439 And often times, or at least a good portion of 1537 01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:58.079 them have described seeing a throne room. Where Ball's throne is, 1538 01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:00.920 it's underground in some sort of a cave system. And 1539 01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:03.359 what's interesting about that is if you look at this 1540 01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:07.239 area of Indiana, it sits right above the largest cave 1541 01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:11.520 system in America, stretches all throughout the Appalachian Mountains, heads 1542 01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:15.520 west a little bit, and touches right over southern Indiana. 1543 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:17.720 So to me, I go, there seems to be a 1544 01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:21.359 correlation here. What's very interesting is somebody hopped in my 1545 01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:23.119 chat the other day. Her name was Robin, and she 1546 01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:26.479 recommended to me a fictional book called Angelology. And the 1547 01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:30.000 reason she recommended that is because in Angelology there are 1548 01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:33.119 three places on Earth where Nephelum and the Fallen are 1549 01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:36.319 gathering their resources and gearing up for war. One of 1550 01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:39.479 them is Serbia, the other one is China, and the 1551 01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:44.560 other one is Indiana. And I said, so those are. 1552 01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:47.520 She acknowledged that it was fictional too, right. She was 1553 01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:48.880 trying to say this is Bible. 1554 01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:50.680 She's saying no, no, she's saying it's fictional. 1555 01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:56.600 Yes, Okay, Indiana, China, and Serbia. Serbia is the one 1556 01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:58.560 that I'm a little bit undercertain of. There's something else 1557 01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:00.800 that starts with an se all that might be it, 1558 01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:01.880 but I'm pretty sure it's Serbia. 1559 01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:03.079 Interesting. 1560 01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:06.039 Yeah, yeah, And so you know what we're doing here 1561 01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:09.239 is we're piling up anecdotal evidence. But there happens to 1562 01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:12.560 be just to the west of Indiana in Illinois, right 1563 01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:15.279 over the border, still over that cave system, a little 1564 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:18.279 place called the Garden of the Gods that has a 1565 01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:22.239 surprising concentration of cryptid sightings and also has this cave 1566 01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:26.199 system stretching beneath it. So part of me feels we're 1567 01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:28.520 actually going to work out a documentary and we're going 1568 01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:31.239 to go out to Indiana, And obviously it's like not 1569 01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:33.159 like we're going to be able to go into this 1570 01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:36.680 cave system and find the throne room of ball, which 1571 01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:39.520 is very interesting that this story keeps coming up. 1572 01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:40.399 There's a throwing room. 1573 01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:42.960 I think you can go there, but I don't think 1574 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:48.159 you'll go there without assistance of like peeling that veil behind. 1575 01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:49.359 I think you can get a spot. 1576 01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:51.920 Okay, so you're allowed to go into those caves. What 1577 01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:54.399 is saying Pacific caverns dangerous? 1578 01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:55.720 No more or less? 1579 01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:59.760 Like there is parallel realms to ours that very much 1580 01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:02.600 in way of like stranger things resemble our realm but 1581 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.039 are off in some way. I think you'll go there 1582 01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:07.479 and find a big empty room, but in some other 1583 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.920 realm that's accessible through some sort of dream state that 1584 01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:13.439 people are experiencing, would actually have a physical throne and 1585 01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:14.479 an entity sitting in it. 1586 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:16.680 So I think it nice to see it. I'm with y. 1587 01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:19.600 So what you would look for is it's a it's 1588 01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:22.880 a room with incredibly high ceilings, and it is the 1589 01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.800 sort of center point where many other tunnels meet up. 1590 01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:28.960 So I think you probably would go there and find 1591 01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.600 that place, and you might find something strange, but not 1592 01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:35.600 you know, of really reactor or something. Maybe you might 1593 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:37.800 find like a sigil, you know what I mean, or 1594 01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:40.319 something like that, but you won't find a dude and 1595 01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:43.119 a throne there. So we do want to go there, 1596 01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:46.079 But it's it's interesting that so many people are having 1597 01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:48.960 the same experience in this little area that there are 1598 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:52.680 works of fiction written about it, and they're along the 1599 01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:55.000 same lines. And I would imagine that if you wrote 1600 01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:57.920 a fictional story about this, one of two things would 1601 01:11:57.920 --> 01:11:59.560 have happened in order for it to line up the 1602 01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:04.920 way that it's does. Either you would have been inspired, channeled, muses, whatever, 1603 01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:07.159 what have you, something whispered to you you thought it 1604 01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:10.439 was your own ideas, Or you're basing this off of 1605 01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:13.239 testimony that you're getting from that area that otherwise would 1606 01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:15.000 seem fictional, and so you're going this is this would 1607 01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:16.279 make a good fictional story. 1608 01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:19.000 Or channeling or channeling, which is like we're talking about 1609 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:22.039 the you know, the tablet's ancient whatever. 1610 01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:25.680 Unrolled tablets of thought. Well, that's the same thing with 1611 01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:28.720 Stephen King, right top. I mean, he's describing something in 1612 01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:33.680 Maine that he is claiming comes to him in dreams. 1613 01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:36.119 And Stephen King is a guy who spends quite a 1614 01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:37.680 bit of time, or spent quite a bit of time 1615 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:41.279 during his writing years inebriated, so he's in an altered 1616 01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:44.199 state of consciousness, and he is saying that he's getting 1617 01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:46.560 these things through dreams cocaine. 1618 01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:47.800 I think it is too isn't it. 1619 01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:51.439 First, I'm gonna be straight up with you, and I 1620 01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:53.840 know I'm gonna piss off a lot of people with 1621 01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:54.319 this one. 1622 01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:57.520 Stephen King's of Faggott, Well yeah, obviously, obviously, But I 1623 01:12:57.640 --> 01:12:59.039 actually don't think he's a good writer. 1624 01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:02.319 Like if you actually read no, no, no, like the story, 1625 01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:05.520 he could tell a story, right, he is not good 1626 01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:10.640 at writing. It's overworded and it's improperly worded that he 1627 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:14.520 tries using slang out of context to try to sound cool, 1628 01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:17.159 like and you're also writing about an eleven year old 1629 01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:20.279 gang bang. That's like, that's there's not even just that 1630 01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:23.560 one thing. Fine, write that one off, But like if 1631 01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:26.800 you actually try to read it as like a reader, 1632 01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:30.880 it's it's it's like a fucking seventeen year old wrote. 1633 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:32.199 It, Jacob. We're not writing that off though. 1634 01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:35.439 I got to read it now because I used to 1635 01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:37.279 read all of this stuff and then I stopped for 1636 01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:39.399 like ten years. But now I bet you if I 1637 01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:41.399 go back and read on, like this language is kind 1638 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:42.560 of like unnecessary. 1639 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:45.000 That was the problem with angelology is like the writer 1640 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:49.279 a female, huge problem and also uses like so much 1641 01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:53.479 flowery language and metaphor to describe every single thing that's 1642 01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:56.239 happening that I just can't get like, I don't want 1643 01:13:56.279 --> 01:13:59.000 to get lost in the way that the frost spread 1644 01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:01.760 across the window like a spiderweb, crescendoing and reached. 1645 01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:02.600 I don't care. I don't care. 1646 01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:02.880 I don't care. 1647 01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:05.279 It doesn't always got to be a poetry. 1648 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:08.800 Go go write a poem. Ya's a fucking book twice 1649 01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:10.920 the size of the Bible. Like come off of your 1650 01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:11.760 high horse, you dick. 1651 01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:12.760 I don't want to hear it. 1652 01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:15.319 But there is something to that, right, because you think 1653 01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:20.119 about what Stephen King is talking about this story that connects, right, 1654 01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:21.479 all these stories lay over there. 1655 01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:22.840 There's a dimensional aspect. 1656 01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:26.520 There's some sort of like entity aspect that presents itself 1657 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:28.439 as a clown in some ways, which is interesting when 1658 01:14:28.439 --> 01:14:29.920 you think about Paul Stob scenario. 1659 01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:32.640 But let's go, let's just dissect that because I'm thinking 1660 01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:35.039 about our Christmas episode with Brian of Demon Race A 1661 01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:38.359 shout out this guy love, Yes he mentioned Okay, you 1662 01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:43.279 guys are familiar mentions this entity called el KUKOUI uh, 1663 01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:46.560 you know Tony ferguson ufc el Kakooy the Boogeyman. And 1664 01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:49.319 that's like in a I guess, like Colombian culture, but 1665 01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:53.439 that entity is related to the cocoa leaf el coco 1666 01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:57.600 el KOKOUI yes, And I think that people were seeing 1667 01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.479 this thing because they were chewing on a coca leaf, 1668 01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:02.479 which is you know, that's where kind of where cocaine 1669 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:05.920 is derived from, like the same sort of uh, you know, 1670 01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:08.960 same sort of drug. So you'll, I think you'll depending 1671 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:13.079 on the drug you're doing, math amphetamine, cocaine liquor, you're 1672 01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:17.720 going to be open to different types of entities. If 1673 01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:19.880 you do an ayahuaska, you'll see like a jaguar woman. 1674 01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:22.239 If you're doing DMT, maybe you'll see the machine els, 1675 01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:24.960 so like they exist on like odd planes. 1676 01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:27.680 And I think it's like if the brain really is 1677 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:30.479 a receiver, but not in the way of like a 1678 01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:34.079 hardwired antenna, more in the way of like a chemical 1679 01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:37.760 batch that given the chemical makeup of the batch, allows 1680 01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:40.800 it to tune into various things. I think that those 1681 01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:45.800 chemicals give you access to different I guess, potential realms, 1682 01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:49.680 or maybe they're associated specifically with entities, you know, so 1683 01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:51.520 it could be the same entities from the dawn of 1684 01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:56.760 time they used to be summoned by chewing this leaf, 1685 01:15:57.079 --> 01:16:00.199 but now they're summoned by a synthetic blend that you 1686 01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:03.439 you know, put in a silver pouch and market as 1687 01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:05.119 an alternative to marijuana, you know what I mean. Like 1688 01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:08.359 it's that I think it's like the same root chemical 1689 01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:10.319 compound will put you into contact. And I think that's 1690 01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:12.199 what what Top was saying before too, where it's like 1691 01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.840 we tell our audience not to do psychedelics in part 1692 01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:18.479 because we don't know where they are. I do think 1693 01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:22.800 that these entities are They're not omnipresent, They're not like 1694 01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:24.239 the Father, the Creator. 1695 01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:25.520 They are. 1696 01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:31.359 Bogged down to localities. So that's why, like certain islands 1697 01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:33.439 will have like a certain a deity that they see 1698 01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:35.159 all the time or whatever, and that's what they've become 1699 01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:38.680 associated with. Or you know, in Indiana they're seeing ball, right. 1700 01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.800 It's like I think these things are in specific spots. 1701 01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:43.760 That's like in the in the Bible, it's said that 1702 01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:47.319 the throne of Satan was in uh Pergamam, and it's 1703 01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:52.119 very interesting because Pergamam is essentially what was ancient Turkey, 1704 01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:56.399 and what was found there was the the altar to Zeus, 1705 01:16:56.640 --> 01:17:00.439 the throne of Zeus. So I think that if you 1706 01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:04.840 look back throughout history, Ball, which I'm much more comfortable 1707 01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:07.439 with being sort of a title. So whoever's holding this 1708 01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:10.520 title now as ball, ball seems to mean king or 1709 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:12.920 something like that, which is interesting because Satan means accuser, 1710 01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:16.640 So I think there is some conflation between actual entities 1711 01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:21.520 and maybe titles. But Ball was once described as the 1712 01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:25.039 king of storms, and Hadad from ancient Sumr was also 1713 01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:28.399 described as the king of storms and was shown holding 1714 01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:32.319 what looked to be thunderbolts or lightning bolts, right, And 1715 01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:35.119 I think these are really the same entities. Ha Dad 1716 01:17:36.039 --> 01:17:41.359 maybe was or is Zeus held the title at some 1717 01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:43.720 point of Satan, which is why the throne of Satan 1718 01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.720 being found in Pergrimam is where you found the altar 1719 01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:49.479 to Zeus that, by the way, was adopted by Hitler 1720 01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:53.399 later on his Zeppelin Tribune. His speaking grounds were designed 1721 01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:56.840 after the altar to Zeus. 1722 01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:00.640 Well, there's also more biblical precedents in Daniel chapter ten, 1723 01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:03.439 where he's he's praying to God for wisdom. I think 1724 01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:05.119 he was praying for like twenty days or something like that, 1725 01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:07.600 or maybe a full month, right, and he's kind of like, well, 1726 01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:10.560 where the hell is my help? And eventually I think 1727 01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:14.399 it's the angel Michael. Right, he comes to him, is it? Yeah, Yeah, 1728 01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:15.880 it was an angel Michael. And he said, hey, sorry, 1729 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:18.000 you know I got held up. The Prince of Persia 1730 01:18:18.319 --> 01:18:21.159 held me up for twenty one days, but I got here. 1731 01:18:21.439 --> 01:18:22.560 So like what was going? 1732 01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:25.880 Like you were traveling and something held you up. You're 1733 01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:28.319 an angel, but it took you time to get to 1734 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:31.199 answer this guy's prayer even though you're in direct sort 1735 01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:34.239 of direct contact with God. That shows that these angels 1736 01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:37.159 are not omnipresence. They're in localities and they're able to 1737 01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:38.159 travel back and forth. 1738 01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:40.159 But yeah, which is funny, it's a little time. 1739 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:42.640 It's a little counterintuitive because, like I said before, when 1740 01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:45.800 you're amazed by something like a spiritual encounter, you tend 1741 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:50.600 to just like dump all your your you know, don't 1742 01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:52.600 all your money in one spot, you dump all your 1743 01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:54.600 attention in one spot. And you think for a second 1744 01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:57.319 that these things are like above and beyond powerful, and it's. 1745 01:18:57.159 --> 01:18:59.680 Like, no, they have actually a lot of restrictions. 1746 01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:02.079 Drove here, He had to drive here, dude. 1747 01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:02.439 Drove me here. 1748 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:05.920 As far as the texts go, God is the only 1749 01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:09.560 omnipresent omnipot and all the things on the potent, whatever 1750 01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:12.000 you want to pronounce it. But yeah, angels kind of 1751 01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:14.479 are restricted by a lot of things, and demons are 1752 01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:16.680 also restricted by a lot of things. Yeah, they've been 1753 01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:20.920 given free reign to a degree, just like Satan he 1754 01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:24.039 is given free rein but only to a certain point. Right, 1755 01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:27.119 Like that's but again, this is if you do in 1756 01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:29.239 fact believe in these texts. There's a lot of people 1757 01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:30.560 that do not subscribe to the Bible. 1758 01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:32.239 So like, I guess, well, it's it's also a lot 1759 01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:35.760 of interpretation too, because as we we we actually just 1760 01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:38.920 did an episode, uh it was actually episode six six six, 1761 01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:42.399 and so we gotten in we got into Hilly Carson 1762 01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:45.800 on No we talked about him though, but we got 1763 01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:47.680 into like a lot of Satanism and a lot of 1764 01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:50.319 the Satanistic beliefs and and stuff like that. And what 1765 01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:53.720 we found was that, you know, Satan isn't a guy 1766 01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:57.119 that you were kind of you know, saying earlier. It's uh, 1767 01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:00.960 one of the names that that they say is an adversary. 1768 01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:04.279 So whoever you would call like somebody who was opposing you, 1769 01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:07.680 that is your Satan kind of thing. And that's why 1770 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:10.600 you know, even in the Bible. It's it doesn't say Satan. 1771 01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:12.600 It doesn't say oh and then I met Satan. It 1772 01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:16.560 says and then I met a Satan. And it's like, way, 1773 01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:18.960 does what do you mean a Satan? Are there multiple Satans? 1774 01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:21.960 Or is this just a title that you call somebody 1775 01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:23.960 that is opposing whatever you're trying to carry out? 1776 01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:26.119 What was thinking to you that came on and broke 1777 01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:28.039 down the Greek language of it. I know the face. 1778 01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:30.560 I cannot remember his name. He's another biblical scholar. He's 1779 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:32.760 he's a fucking og with he got a doctorate in 1780 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:36.239 the shit. Uh well, he went on Danny Jones show 1781 01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:38.600 not too long ago and was talking about the Greek 1782 01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:41.039 to Latin translations and all that he speaks at all. 1783 01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:44.800 He's a doctorate and it very similar to Westolf shit. 1784 01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:46.800 But yeah, he broke down what that meant, like a 1785 01:20:47.039 --> 01:20:49.479 I do you think it's a adversary? Yeah, I think 1786 01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:51.079 it's it's it's a little bit more. 1787 01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:53.159 We're definitely on well, I can't say we're definitely on 1788 01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:54.520 the right track, but I feel as though we're on 1789 01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:55.239 the right track with it. 1790 01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:56.960 But I think it's a little bit more nuanced than that. 1791 01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:01.399 I think it's actually a role that it's necessary. It's 1792 01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:02.439 a job title. Yeah. 1793 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:04.800 And that guy, that guy's the one that made the 1794 01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:08.039 connection between like a butt dial and a booty call. Right, 1795 01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:10.960 And how like if somebody two thousand years from now 1796 01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:15.560 reads an English, they somehow are able to transcribe American 1797 01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:18.359 English circa twenty twenty four, there's going to be some 1798 01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:20.960 experts saying that a butt dial in a booty called 1799 01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:23.960 the exact same thing because this word means this, how 1800 01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:27.399 can you deny? And it's like, no, dude, language transverses. 1801 01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:29.960 This word doesn't mean the same thing now that it 1802 01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:32.279 did fifty years ago, let alone one hundred years ago, 1803 01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:34.760 even in the same language with the same letters in 1804 01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:37.239 the whole nine. So, like the Greek language, as the 1805 01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:39.840 Bible's being written, it changed from time to time. That's 1806 01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:41.720 why you have to look at the context of it 1807 01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:44.520 the time to place the audience on every fucking thing. 1808 01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:46.359 Yeah, that's what we do so much of it. 1809 01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:49.239 That's by the way, you can see the detriment to 1810 01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:52.079 the Tower of Babbel being destroyed and all the languages 1811 01:21:52.119 --> 01:21:54.960 being scattered. It's like, yeah, it will forever be off. 1812 01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.520 But yeah, you know when it comes to a garden 1813 01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:01.319 and casting out the Nakash. It's like they it seemingly 1814 01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:04.000 the Nakash had a place in the garden, was a 1815 01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:08.039 respectable creature, you know, uh was a high level spiritual entity, 1816 01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:11.399 but crossed the line. And then it kind of brings 1817 01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.359 the question. It's like, well, was the point to deceive 1818 01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:17.359 but not to within bounds within reason? Like the same 1819 01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:20.439 thing when when God is talking to say exactly, and 1820 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:22.560 it's like, within bounds, within reasons, you can do this 1821 01:22:22.720 --> 01:22:24.279 to Job, you can do that to Job, but you're 1822 01:22:24.279 --> 01:22:27.479 not allowed to do that, And it's like argument. 1823 01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:30.239 There's an argument as well for the Satan in the 1824 01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:33.079 Book of Job not being like the same. 1825 01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:36.640 You're talking about, because he walks up to God's presence, 1826 01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:39.720 which we know that that can't happen. And then so 1827 01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:43.439 I get into these fights with Christians about the Book 1828 01:22:43.479 --> 01:22:46.800 of Job in particular, it is the oldest written book 1829 01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:49.640 within the Bible, even though it's not the first book entered. 1830 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:50.479 Why is that? 1831 01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:52.840 How is that? Look, I wasn't at the fucking meeting, okay, 1832 01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:56.000 but that is the fact that we believe was one 1833 01:22:56.079 --> 01:22:58.840 of the oral torahs, because there is a written Torah 1834 01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:01.119 and there's an oral torah, and they believe that you 1835 01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:04.000 cannot even begin to understand it unless you have both. 1836 01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:06.520 There's a theory that says the Book of Job was 1837 01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:08.760 one of those oral torahs, that was one of those 1838 01:23:08.760 --> 01:23:10.720 stories that was passed down time and time again that 1839 01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:12.720 somebody thought, no, no, no, there's real things that we 1840 01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:15.079 need to add into the book on this, right. But 1841 01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:17.800 then like these Christians that take the Bible to be 1842 01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:21.159 completely as it says, otherwise it wouldn't be there. It's like, 1843 01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:24.560 you understand that that can't happen by God's law, Like 1844 01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:27.800 Satan isn't gonna just fly around the earth a little 1845 01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:30.199 bit and pick out people to go place bets with 1846 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:34.880 God who A doesn't gamble and b Satan is not 1847 01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:37.359 even able to be in the presence of the All 1848 01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:39.439 Powerful because of the way it's all played out. So 1849 01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:42.000 it's like, you gotta understand Job is a lesson and 1850 01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:44.000 a parable And then they're like, what's never said that 1851 01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:48.319 it is. I'm like, look at it, fucker, Like, I just. 1852 01:23:48.359 --> 01:23:51.479 Wonder if it comes down to a tremendous misunderstanding of 1853 01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:53.680 what Satan is too. Yeah, right, I mean, like I 1854 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:57.239 think there are room for fallen entities, entities that rebelled 1855 01:23:57.239 --> 01:24:00.840 and were tossed out of God's grace and do break 1856 01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:02.399 a lot of rules. And I think that we're here 1857 01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:05.199 to bear witness to it so that they could be 1858 01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:07.399 judged apparently, you know, in the end. But I do 1859 01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:12.279 think that Satan almost seems like a how do I 1860 01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:14.640 put this thesis? 1861 01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:15.720 Bad guy, the villain. 1862 01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:17.960 Well, he's got a job to do. 1863 01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:22.560 His job seemingly is to test mankind in so many 1864 01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:26.159 ways and to see if he can present a compelling 1865 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:29.720 enough thing that we will choose that instead of God, 1866 01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:31.319 and that seems to be. 1867 01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:33.000 He's trying to throw off the timeline. 1868 01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:35.119 Though, well that's interesting if you get into like the 1869 01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:36.760 little season shit right, Oh. 1870 01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:39.319 I'm talking like Hitler. Like to make the end time 1871 01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:41.720 prophecies happen, you have to have the nation of Israel. 1872 01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:44.239 They can't exist, that they're all in an oven. So 1873 01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:45.880 I believe that that was all a part of it too, 1874 01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:48.359 Because no one knows the Bible better than Satan. No 1875 01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:51.199 one knows how this story is going to end more 1876 01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:53.000 than he does. And I think that he is doing 1877 01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:54.920 everything in this power to stop it. That's why he 1878 01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:58.359 had Herod kill every two year old in Bethlehem when 1879 01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:01.479 Jesus was born. That's why had these other kings from 1880 01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:03.880 the dawn of time do what they've done to certain people, 1881 01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:06.600 not just the Jews. I believe there's a reason why 1882 01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:09.520 the world, the political scheme, the war games that are 1883 01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:12.399 being played right now. I believe there's very very spiritual 1884 01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:15.239 reasons why all this is happening. And I think that 1885 01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:17.880 Satan knows that, and he's doing everything he can to 1886 01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:18.560 throw it off. 1887 01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:22.800 It feels like he's doing everything you can to fulfill prophecy, 1888 01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:26.279 because like you said, you tried to kill Jesus before 1889 01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:28.399 he was born, you didn't, and then you killed him anyway, 1890 01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:31.800 thus fulfilling prophecy. I mean, the red Hefer situation. It's 1891 01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:35.680 like you're just fulfilling prophecy. And it's weird to think about, Like, 1892 01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:38.319 so is he trying to like get us there is 1893 01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:40.760 I really don't understand that job. 1894 01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:43.039 I think he's trying to stop it from happening, but 1895 01:25:43.119 --> 01:25:45.880 he can't because you know it's gonna happen one way 1896 01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:48.479 or another. But it's like he can't just lay back 1897 01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:50.560 and accept it. He's got to do what he can. 1898 01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:52.600 He's got to corrupt mankind. He's got to try to 1899 01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:54.880 do this. You gotta try to. It's just how it 1900 01:25:54.960 --> 01:25:56.359 has to be. Why does there have to be a 1901 01:25:56.479 --> 01:25:59.520 yang for the ying? Why must it be? Because it's 1902 01:25:59.520 --> 01:25:59.880 simply my. 1903 01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:04.359 It's something beautiful about it too, right, like if there 1904 01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:06.840 you know, I don't know where Jonathan's at on it, 1905 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:10.199 but like if you the old place, but if you 1906 01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:12.199 believe that there was a creator, then he would create 1907 01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:15.000 this other angel to then do this part where there 1908 01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:20.439 has to He's he's creating this opposition, whereas guy wasn't intended? 1909 01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:20.680 Right? 1910 01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:22.560 Was intended? 1911 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:24.600 Yeah, oh you think it was. You think he made 1912 01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:27.319 Lucifer to be his right hand man just to fall 1913 01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:28.239 to kickstart all of this. 1914 01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:30.800 I don't think. I think the angels fall when they 1915 01:26:31.239 --> 01:26:32.359 when they accept worship. 1916 01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:35.319 So wait, Lucifer was a leader of the worship. 1917 01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:37.239 He was he was from people. 1918 01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:41.319 Oh no, I think they're just trying to emulate. Okay, 1919 01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:46.319 well you're saying this God created Lucifer for the whole 1920 01:26:46.359 --> 01:26:49.960 purpose to make it happen, or you. 1921 01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:51.720 Could kind of think about it forever, right, I mean, 1922 01:26:52.039 --> 01:26:54.159 is it the chicken or the egg? Because he creates, 1923 01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:57.520 he creates uh, Lucifer. The job title is Satan. He's 1924 01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:01.199 in the garden, he tempts Adam and Eve and he's successful. 1925 01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:03.119 But that's I mean, he gets kicked out of the garden. 1926 01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:05.000 Maybe he broke some kind of metaphiis. 1927 01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:07.800 That wasn't his job though. He wasn't supposed to tempt him. 1928 01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:09.680 That was after he fell from heaven. That was after 1929 01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:12.159 he rebelled against God in a third of the angels 1930 01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:14.880 fell to heaven or fell to earth. He went into 1931 01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:18.039 the garden to corrupt God's creation. That's when when did 1932 01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:18.399 the full? 1933 01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:20.399 When did the full happen? 1934 01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:20.640 Right? 1935 01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:23.000 Like, did it happen? Did it happen pre Adam or 1936 01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:26.479 did it happen post Adam. It's like, I'm not really sure. 1937 01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:29.319 Honestly, I've never thought about it because I don't think it. 1938 01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:33.239 It's kind of like does it matter. Let's say, let's 1939 01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:34.840 say the Garden of Eden was going on for like 1940 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:38.840 four thousand years of perfection and then the fall happened, 1941 01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:41.279 and then Satan comes in temptsum. It may have been 1942 01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:43.640 a week, it may have been literally seven days later, 1943 01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:46.720 Like I don't know. But at the end of the day, 1944 01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:50.199 I don't believe that he would have created these things 1945 01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:53.199 to rebel against him, just to make these things happen. 1946 01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:55.199 And I think that that was kind of the point. 1947 01:27:55.319 --> 01:27:57.960 Lucifer gets here and he's like, yo, I'm throwing the 1948 01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:01.960 name Lucifer. We know that they the guy, the evil dude, right, 1949 01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:05.000 it's like Jesus, slash your shoe, bear with me. But 1950 01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:06.880 I think he got here and was like, yeah, I 1951 01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:09.079 gotta do everything I can to screw this up. We 1952 01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:12.720 got all these creatures, hey, all these dudes, and brought 1953 01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:14.720 down here. I need you all, fuck everything. I need 1954 01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:17.920 you to make babies with literally everything, animals, humans, fuck 1955 01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:19.439 a rocket. If he can make a baby, like, get 1956 01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:21.880 that after it. We gotta screw up this entire program. 1957 01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:24.239 You know, it's funny, this is this is a little 1958 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:26.840 bit off topic. But last night I'm watching something with 1959 01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:29.600 my wife. She's watching a TikTok and and it's a 1960 01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:32.880 woman who is talking about how well she takes care 1961 01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:37.159 of herself, presents herself. She's had a lifetime of pursuing, 1962 01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:41.840 you know, all this education. She's successful, but she is 1963 01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:47.279 touching forty and just cannot find a man. And what 1964 01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:51.079 I thought was wild about that was, oh, feminism, sold 1965 01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:54.000 women a bad bag, this idea that you need to 1966 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:54.840 pursue this career. 1967 01:28:55.319 --> 01:28:56.399 Everything is about. 1968 01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:01.520 Self love, self improvement, and and you know, they have 1969 01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:03.960 all these little things like not sacrificing your piece. 1970 01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:05.960 I'm not sacrificing my peace for anybody. It's like a 1971 01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:07.520 lot of catchphrases that women attached to. 1972 01:29:07.720 --> 01:29:10.880 And it's interesting because at one point the feminist movement 1973 01:29:10.920 --> 01:29:13.880 did have Lilith as a mascot, and it was done 1974 01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:16.479 in us. Yeah, they were doing it through the lens 1975 01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:20.640 of like sort of this idea that Lilith was Adam's 1976 01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:23.760 first wife and didn't want to be dominated and reveled 1977 01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:25.720 against him, and so in the spirit of that, that's 1978 01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:27.239 I don't believe that's actually what happened at all. 1979 01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:30.279 I think Lilith was something. I think Lilith was likely 1980 01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:31.760 the first woman to. 1981 01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:36.880 Engage with a fallen and allow this. Like so they 1982 01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:38.640 call her like the mother of monsters. I think that's 1983 01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:42.399 probably more accurate. She was the first woman to basically 1984 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.520 be the mother to Nephelim. But what I think is 1985 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:49.680 interesting about that is everything is about everything in feminism 1986 01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:52.800 is so selfish, right, It's all about the self. It's 1987 01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:57.880 all about preserving you know, womanhood, not being subjected to 1988 01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:01.680 the rule of man, pursuing things that build you up. 1989 01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:05.159 So you're pursuing your career, you're pursuing your education. And unfortunately, 1990 01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:07.479 now you're at an age where all the people who 1991 01:30:07.479 --> 01:30:10.000 are interested in romantic love of any sort. 1992 01:30:10.119 --> 01:30:10.760 They're married. 1993 01:30:11.399 --> 01:30:13.439 People that were into that are off the table now 1994 01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:15.079 they're married. The only ones that are left are people 1995 01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:17.800 that weren't figuring it out. But I think that when 1996 01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:22.359 it comes to these entities, they first and foremost they 1997 01:30:22.439 --> 01:30:29.279 want veneration, they want worship, but they'll accept lesser degrees 1998 01:30:29.319 --> 01:30:32.119 of it. In other words, as long as you're not 1999 01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:34.720 worshiping the Father, as long as you're not actually pointing, 2000 01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:38.119 you know, your energy and trying to align your will 2001 01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:43.760 with the creator of this universe, then they'll take I 2002 01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:46.279 don't know, self worship. You could worship yourself. That's fine, 2003 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:48.039 and that that is kind of paganism, isn't it, because 2004 01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:50.560 it's no age satanism or humanism exactly. 2005 01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:51.880 Yes, it's self worship. 2006 01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:55.039 And everything right now is about like self self improvement, 2007 01:30:55.199 --> 01:30:57.960 protecting your peace, you know, not sacrificing for other people. 2008 01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:00.520 Like it's this whole Parado. 2009 01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:04.960 Yeah, they have What was it? Eckhart in the fourteenth 2010 01:31:05.039 --> 01:31:06.760 century wrote about. 2011 01:31:07.800 --> 01:31:08.119 What was it? 2012 01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:10.039 It's the thing that y'all talk about a lot, Jonathan 2013 01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:13.520 about how uh all of us have a spark of 2014 01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:15.600 the source within us and that kind of thing, and 2015 01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.399 like we're all the same spirit having a million different experiences. 2016 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:21.000 I mean, Jesus said that the Kingdom of Heaven is 2017 01:31:21.079 --> 01:31:22.479 within you, so same thing. 2018 01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:25.079 It's not the same thing at all, but I yeah, 2019 01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.359 that's like saying you have goodness within you, the Kingdom 2020 01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:30.039 of Heaven, the spirit of God being within you, that 2021 01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:32.760 be your morals. That's the thing nugging nudging you, saying, hey, 2022 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:37.159 don't murder people like that's that that doesn't mean soul? Right? 2023 01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:37.800 Where are we say? 2024 01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:39.079 In that top I forgot what show we were on, 2025 01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:41.159 but it was like God sent his only sudden to 2026 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:42.800 die for your sins. Will you choose him? Then? 2027 01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:43.159 New? 2028 01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:45.880 What if your what if my spirit resides within you 2029 01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:48.520 and is your ever present conscious and that tells you 2030 01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:50.560 to aim towards true and good, will you choose me? 2031 01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:50.760 Then? 2032 01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:52.399 No, We'll still choose ourselves. 2033 01:31:52.880 --> 01:31:55.000 It is they say in the end times, they're gonna 2034 01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:57.479 see with their own eyes, the wild shit going on, 2035 01:31:58.000 --> 01:31:59.399 and they're still just gonna be like, no. 2036 01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:03.319 H yeah, but that's I do think that feminist movement 2037 01:32:03.399 --> 01:32:05.560 is in alignment with that. It's self worship. It's basically 2038 01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:10.920 because if you boiled paganism down to its most reductive form, 2039 01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:14.479 I believe it's just worshiping the creation instead of the creator. 2040 01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:15.960 That's how you can put it in the simplest form. 2041 01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:20.479 So whether or not you're worshiping a pantheon of lesser deities, 2042 01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:23.880 or you're engaging in some form of self worship, or 2043 01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:26.239 if you're somebody whose walls are covered in star Wars 2044 01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:28.239 and Marvel posters and every day you wake up and 2045 01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:29.680 it's the first thing that you see, and you put 2046 01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:31.960 on your Marvel shirt and you never miss a movie 2047 01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:33.880 and you go to comic cons and stuff. It's like 2048 01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:38.239 the same energy that human beings dedicate towards worship is 2049 01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:41.159 the same energy that then gets funneled into those things. 2050 01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:44.359 So you know, even if you're sort of an Andrew 2051 01:32:44.439 --> 01:32:47.119 Tait character where everything is about like the self and 2052 01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:50.479 building the self up, and you know, like have sex 2053 01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:52.239 with the high Room of women and don't get married 2054 01:32:52.279 --> 01:32:54.359 and get the Bugatti and walk around everywhere with no 2055 01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:56.399 shirt on and heaven like, I look, I. 2056 01:32:56.520 --> 01:32:57.079 Like working out. 2057 01:32:57.119 --> 01:32:59.159 You see his tweet for Christmas. I mean, just the 2058 01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:00.319 guy is on the level. 2059 01:33:01.079 --> 01:33:01.439 What did he do? 2060 01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:03.960 He's doing shoulder presses and there's like a three sixty 2061 01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.560 camera and it's like a beautiful Christmas tree. But he's 2062 01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:09.479 by himself, just shoulder presses, and he's like the real 2063 01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:11.720 men do shoulder presses and if you take naps, you're gay. 2064 01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:14.000 And I'm just like this guy nails he nails it. 2065 01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:16.279 Like whatever he's doing, it's very lou fan. 2066 01:33:16.960 --> 01:33:19.840 There those human trafficking charges, I've never heard anything of. 2067 01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:21.159 You can do whatever you want. 2068 01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:23.600 Hey, Jacob, didn't you know you could do whatever you want? 2069 01:33:23.680 --> 01:33:25.880 Do with thou wilt? Okay, that's the name of the game. 2070 01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:27.600 You want to traffic a bunch of people and then 2071 01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:30.000 go on to be a millionaire afterwards and drive a Bugatti. 2072 01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:31.199 Do with thou wilt, homie. 2073 01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:33.319 So I don't even trying to throw shaite. I actually 2074 01:33:33.319 --> 01:33:35.159 don't know how that ever shook out. So the fact 2075 01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:38.079 that he's I don't know it. I mean he's been 2076 01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:40.960 tweeting NonStop. I don't know what the hell happened to 2077 01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:41.720 I just got it. 2078 01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:44.640 He got arrested by Romanian police and they found his 2079 01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:47.479 location due to a pizza box that he ordered pizza 2080 01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:50.960 two in a livestream figure A little hint there. Then yeah, 2081 01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:53.680 then he they put him in jail for a little while. 2082 01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:56.279 Then he's out of jail mysteriously. And I don't know 2083 01:33:56.359 --> 01:34:00.680 how Romania works. I know it's a very rough countryman. 2084 01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:03.560 Works like Ukraine worked six years ago. If you're catching 2085 01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:06.199 my drift, Like, they have a government, they have a 2086 01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:09.279 police force, they have other countries that pay them to 2087 01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:11.880 do certain things that they can't do on their land. 2088 01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:16.199 And they're a homie but by proxy, if you will. 2089 01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:18.520 It's kind of the wild West in certain regions. 2090 01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:22.960 Right Well, I just think that that those you know, 2091 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:25.079 if we look at the feminist movement and you consider 2092 01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:27.279 that some form of paganism, some form of self worship, 2093 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:29.880 I think that red pill movement is the same thing 2094 01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:32.159 for men, Like there is a certain amount of it 2095 01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:34.640 that is fun, Like I like martial arts, I like 2096 01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:37.720 working out, I like cigars, I like cool shit, you 2097 01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:40.000 know what I mean. Like, I look, I'm not saying 2098 01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:41.760 that you have to sit at a long table with 2099 01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:44.439 all your homies with no shirt on every night for dinner. 2100 01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:46.520 That's a weird thing that he does. But I think 2101 01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:50.039 getting together with shirts on with your homies every once 2102 01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:51.479 in a while at a big table could be a 2103 01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:52.000 lot of fun. 2104 01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:54.399 But he's taken it to this point. 2105 01:34:54.479 --> 01:34:56.279 The red pill movement has taken it to this point 2106 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.079 where it's like it's the same thing as feminism, but 2107 01:34:59.119 --> 01:34:59.600 it's for men. 2108 01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:01.920 And at this point, I'm very comfortable calling. 2109 01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:03.920 All that shit paganism where it's like you're just engaging 2110 01:35:03.960 --> 01:35:07.199 in self work, yeah, and very gay self worship. 2111 01:35:07.439 --> 01:35:10.960 What I feel is uh, kind of like this weird, 2112 01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:14.439 strange power that people have whenever, you know, whenever you're 2113 01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:19.279 let's just say religious, right, Like, so people think that 2114 01:35:19.399 --> 01:35:22.960 paganism is something that is extremely horrible and they're devil 2115 01:35:23.039 --> 01:35:26.039 worshipers and stuff like that. Really, all a pagan is 2116 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:30.159 is just not a religious person. It's just not a Christian. 2117 01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:33.000 It's not a Jew or whatever, right, not a Jew. 2118 01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:35.680 So and then the Jews have the same thing. Well, 2119 01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:38.239 if you're not a Jew, then you're a gentile. And 2120 01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:41.239 it's like these weird connotations and these weird meanings that are. 2121 01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:42.640 A taislem or an infidel. 2122 01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:45.640 Right, it's like, all right, you're either with us or 2123 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:47.199 you're literally a pedophile. 2124 01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:49.960 Like that's but I don't think that that's fair. 2125 01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:51.840 You know what I mean, like a better word, right, 2126 01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:55.920 Like I mean, I wouldn't call like, maybe it's not 2127 01:35:56.119 --> 01:35:59.399 fair to say self worship is paganism. 2128 01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:02.520 Your cameras frozen. 2129 01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:02.680 There. 2130 01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:04.199 I just got a spirit fingers long enough and then 2131 01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:05.840 it comes back. All right, yeah, there it goes. I 2132 01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:08.880 don't fucking know why. Maybe you don't have to necessarily. 2133 01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:12.720 Maybe self worship isn't paganism. There's a difference between that, right, 2134 01:36:12.840 --> 01:36:15.760 and actually communing with entities that you believe are real 2135 01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:18.119 and asking for some sort of prid quote quote which, 2136 01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:20.640 by the way, I think women tend to be pagan 2137 01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:22.640 more often than men, and I think that's the reason 2138 01:36:22.720 --> 01:36:24.880 being is because if you leave them alone to their 2139 01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:27.399 own devices, without men to help and build things for 2140 01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:31.359 them and care for them, they become incredibly desperate, incredibly desperate. 2141 01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:35.600 I'm going to who, You're gonna piss off some people 2142 01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:38.359 with that one, and I'm going to just mention before 2143 01:36:38.439 --> 01:36:41.479 people fucking like their torches and pitchforks at my boy here, 2144 01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:47.399 understand that do it dog demonology written by King James. Yes, 2145 01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:50.479 I understand. Throw your shade on him. Fine, even mentions 2146 01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:54.520 why they believed in the fifteen hundreds why there were 2147 01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:58.319 more females of the quote unquote Satanic or which or 2148 01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:02.920 spiritual thing than in the Bible. They mention that there 2149 01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:05.399 would be more women that would fall victim to these things. Yes, 2150 01:37:05.399 --> 01:37:07.319 I understand that was written by Paul and he had 2151 01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:09.079 a little bit of a fucking issue. 2152 01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:12.840 I mean, look, we could just explain it on a level. 2153 01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:19.880 It's very difficult to exist in the wilderness without men, right, Yeah, 2154 01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:23.079 if something happens, imagine how many scenarios back in the day, 2155 01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:27.399 your village gets torched, the women escape, they create a 2156 01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:30.279 little self sustaining group somewhere else in the forest, but 2157 01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:32.720 they don't have the ability to hunt for food, and 2158 01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:36.199 they start to lose their fucking minds and wither away. 2159 01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:38.600 A couple of those are going to reach out to 2160 01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:41.000 some sort of especially when you become that desperate. These 2161 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:43.359 spirits will present themselves to you, oh for sure. And 2162 01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:45.359 if it presents itself to you and it offers you 2163 01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:47.399 something in exchange for something else, do you think that 2164 01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:50.319 these women are. Some of them maybe won't, but a 2165 01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:53.159 lot of them do towards that point. 2166 01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:56.159 And again this is not towards women because like fine, 2167 01:37:56.800 --> 01:37:59.520 the blending statement that there are more women in these 2168 01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:03.880 types of thought processes then men, that's not an opinion, 2169 01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:06.159 that's a mathematical fact. One plus one still equals to 2170 01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:09.319 in this bitch right. So that being said, why are 2171 01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:12.479 all of them led by men? All of these other 2172 01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:16.319 organizations and religions that blast how females are so much better? 2173 01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:18.119 All have dudes at the head of them. 2174 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:19.479 You know what else interesting? 2175 01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:22.960 Because guys, dudes rock, We crush, We crush the heart. 2176 01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:24.880 That's why every time you trans one of us and 2177 01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:27.960 you put us in female sports, we dominate. We crush them, 2178 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:30.279 because that's what we're put here to do, is dominate 2179 01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:33.319 and crush. But look, if you look at the Christian 2180 01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:36.039 Church or the Catholic Church, women are not meant to 2181 01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:39.319 hold high places of spiritual authority rights the. 2182 01:38:39.319 --> 01:38:40.560 Bible very plainly. 2183 01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:43.279 How came when you go to covens, when you go 2184 01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:45.600 to you know, the Church of Satan, why do you 2185 01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:47.640 have the idea of like the mothers of darkness? How 2186 01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:50.760 can when you look to all these other worshiping cults. 2187 01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:54.239 They allow women to hold high places of spiritual authority. 2188 01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:59.039 It's because I think women do have a I don't 2189 01:38:59.039 --> 01:39:01.119 want to say a stronger conection to the spiritual realm. 2190 01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:03.239 I think the negative spiritual entities. 2191 01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:07.680 No, for sure, Now it's stronger. I mean life is 2192 01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:08.479 This is. 2193 01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:09.760 A question of a chicken or the egg. 2194 01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:12.079 Is it that they have a stronger connection or do 2195 01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:14.680 these entities seek them out because they know that they 2196 01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:17.000 don't have the conviction that men have. 2197 01:39:17.640 --> 01:39:22.000 Women are portals that literally cultivate the spirit of God 2198 01:39:22.199 --> 01:39:24.600 inside of their body and then bring it through the world. 2199 01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:28.399 It's something incredible about what a woman does. I mean 2200 01:39:28.439 --> 01:39:30.479 obviously in conjunction with the man, but the man just 2201 01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:32.800 plays a small role. These guys are the incubators of 2202 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:35.920 their spiritual not to say like we are gods and 2203 01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:38.279 all this stuff, but like there's a spirit in everything, 2204 01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:44.119 and they create a freaking life for that, they create 2205 01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:46.159 a body. It's it's incredible. So yeah, of course they're 2206 01:39:46.199 --> 01:39:49.640 more susceptible to spiritual attacks or just spirituality in general. 2207 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:50.960 There's something special about women. 2208 01:39:51.159 --> 01:39:51.760 I love women. 2209 01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:53.560 I love my wife. This is why I fucking hate 2210 01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:57.640 the red pill movement. They tell young men, don't get married, 2211 01:39:57.720 --> 01:39:59.840 don't seek this kind of relationship. I'm like, no, do 2212 01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:02.760 do those things. It's a there's there's a lot of 2213 01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:05.000 beauty in what a woman could bring to your life. 2214 01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:07.199 One of the most meaningful things that you could do 2215 01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:10.199 is to find someone who you love, to have a child, 2216 01:40:10.520 --> 01:40:13.720 to become parents, you know, like that's the most meaningful shit. 2217 01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:14.000 That you can do. 2218 01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:16.119 But show we took a lot of shit on women. Sure, 2219 01:40:16.199 --> 01:40:17.760 I say that there's just a set of holes, but 2220 01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:23.000 I don't mean it. I mean think about think about women, right, 2221 01:40:23.039 --> 01:40:25.119 and how much harder life used to be. And you're 2222 01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:27.279 always behind the apall. You're never gonna be as strong, 2223 01:40:27.279 --> 01:40:29.159 you're never gonna be as fast. Right, you can't invent 2224 01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:33.840 things for whatever reason, And so eventually a man invent 2225 01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:35.960 invented the tampon that my dog gates figure. 2226 01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:36.680 Yeah, that's right. 2227 01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:41.399 You do you think that there aren't going to be historically, 2228 01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:44.279 of course there are. And there's so many uh moments 2229 01:40:44.319 --> 01:40:45.880 you can point to in history that will show this 2230 01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:49.399 women trying to even the playing field, and to do 2231 01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:51.880 that it really helps to have some sort of entity 2232 01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:54.960 on your side. So you have women who have been, 2233 01:40:55.560 --> 01:40:57.760 you know, scorned. It's like you look at the feminist movement. 2234 01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:01.079 They're wearing pussy hats, They're screaming into the sky mascot. 2235 01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:04.039 Do you think any of those women, if they were 2236 01:41:04.079 --> 01:41:07.039 to commune with a spiritual entity, wouldn't take advantage of 2237 01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:08.880 the fact that it can make them stronger in some 2238 01:41:09.039 --> 01:41:10.159 perceivable way than men. 2239 01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:13.920 You know this, When a woman goes on the war path, 2240 01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:18.159 and I don't mean goes on a bitch fit, okay, 2241 01:41:18.359 --> 01:41:21.399 I mean when a woman has been so wronged that 2242 01:41:21.560 --> 01:41:25.439 she is deeping into, digging into the deepest recesses of herself, 2243 01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:28.880 and goes on the true war path. That Bible also says, 2244 01:41:28.960 --> 01:41:31.720 hell hath no fury like a woman scorned and regardless 2245 01:41:31.720 --> 01:41:34.720 of what entity they are calling upon, I believe these 2246 01:41:34.760 --> 01:41:37.159 are the types of women that we now call legends. 2247 01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:39.720 I am talking about Olga of Russia, I am talking 2248 01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:42.479 about Joan of arc I am talking about Boudica. Right. 2249 01:41:43.079 --> 01:41:44.960 It's not just oh, well, she was just this one. 2250 01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:48.159 No no, no, no, you pissed on the wrong fucking one, 2251 01:41:48.319 --> 01:41:50.840 and she decided that we will be speaking her name 2252 01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:55.119 for years to come. The problem is that that type 2253 01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:57.800 of thing. It's within all of us. It's within all 2254 01:41:57.840 --> 01:42:03.920 women for sure, but it's not called upon often. I 2255 01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:05.560 believe it's there, and I believe that that type of 2256 01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:08.880 righteous fury, when a woman goes on that type of 2257 01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:10.880 thing and calls upon the spirits of whatever type for 2258 01:42:11.159 --> 01:42:14.840 righteous means. Yeah, I believe that kind of sets her 2259 01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:16.560 apart from everyone. 2260 01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:20.439 Bo if you think about it, like the idea of 2261 01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:23.920 like the Bible per se, like that seems to be 2262 01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:27.840 more of a patriarchal kind of piece of literature, right, 2263 01:42:28.399 --> 01:42:32.119 and then you start looking into you know, like witchcraft 2264 01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:35.520 books and shit like that, obviously more of a matriarchal 2265 01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:38.600 kind of ideology. But I think, you know, we actually 2266 01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:40.640 had a guest on here recently. 2267 01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:42.199 Her name was P. S. Montgomery. 2268 01:42:42.239 --> 01:42:46.640 She wrote a book called The Summerland and very fascinating 2269 01:42:46.760 --> 01:42:48.640 point of view, like whether you agree with it or 2270 01:42:48.680 --> 01:42:51.000 disagree with it, it's a fascinating point of view in 2271 01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:54.760 which she was kind of transcribing a bit of the 2272 01:42:54.920 --> 01:42:55.960 Sumerian scrolls. 2273 01:42:56.239 --> 01:42:57.239 Is it scrolls or tablets? 2274 01:42:57.239 --> 01:42:59.239 I always get that mixed up, But the Samerian writings 2275 01:43:00.279 --> 01:43:02.680 and what she was saying, that's the whole anke and 2276 01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:06.600 end Little kind of story and you know, which, do 2277 01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:09.239 what you want with that. I mean, I do find 2278 01:43:09.279 --> 01:43:12.920 it fascinating how multiple cultures across the across the globe 2279 01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:16.359 or the flat earth have kind of taken that and 2280 01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:19.760 they they they've made it their own in kind of 2281 01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:22.600 a weird way. There's different variations of the story, but 2282 01:43:22.680 --> 01:43:25.800 it's all, you know, kind of the same story across 2283 01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:28.159 the world in a weird way. But what she was 2284 01:43:28.199 --> 01:43:30.760 going into is that she doesn't she believes that this 2285 01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:32.720 is kind of a prison planet, which you know, it 2286 01:43:32.760 --> 01:43:35.760 gets back to the whole Samerian tablets and whatnot. And 2287 01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:41.840 so the idea is is that basically, the the the 2288 01:43:42.079 --> 01:43:45.520 the god of the Bible is essentially I think ANKI 2289 01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:48.880 or end Little, maybe both, I'm not sure, and that 2290 01:43:49.039 --> 01:43:51.880 the reason why all of this horrible shit is allowed 2291 01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:54.720 to happen, like rape and murder and you know, name 2292 01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:57.279 your thing, war and all that kind of shit, it's 2293 01:43:57.399 --> 01:44:02.680 because the creator coded it into this matrix that we 2294 01:44:02.800 --> 01:44:05.560 live in that kind of like, you know, an all 2295 01:44:05.680 --> 01:44:10.239 loving God wouldn't even like fathom the possibility of making 2296 01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:14.479 this even a perception of reality, let alone actually you know, 2297 01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:19.319 like physically happening in stuff like that. So it is 2298 01:44:19.399 --> 01:44:21.439 an interesting kind of way of looking at it. And 2299 01:44:21.640 --> 01:44:24.760 so like, I don't know, I understand why you would 2300 01:44:24.840 --> 01:44:28.680 have women coming up with their own story that doesn't 2301 01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:31.439 necessarily center around that, and maybe they are playing with 2302 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:35.159 other forces. But you know, is it possible that everybody, 2303 01:44:35.399 --> 01:44:39.079 everybody that calls God God, are we all talking about 2304 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:42.199 like Big G? Or is it Little G? Because that 2305 01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:45.680 can get you know, a little muddy. I think, you know, 2306 01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:48.039 how can you know that you're talking to Big G? 2307 01:44:48.600 --> 01:44:50.960 And is there even a way to talk to Big G, 2308 01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:55.479 like the actual creator of the universe, the omnipresent, the omnipotent, 2309 01:44:55.560 --> 01:44:57.359 the Alpha and the Omega? Is there a way to 2310 01:44:57.439 --> 01:45:00.119 even talk with that? And I think there is, But 2311 01:45:00.319 --> 01:45:02.960 I just think that maybe it's not what we think 2312 01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:07.000 it is, you know, like it's it's up to everybody's 2313 01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:09.920 own interpretation. So if you had men back in the 2314 01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:12.399 day that we're trying to interpret this information that was 2315 01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:16.439 coming from the Alpha and the Omega, you would probably, like, 2316 01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:18.800 you know, kind of like people who channel, You're gonna 2317 01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:20.880 mix a little bit of you in there, and that's 2318 01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:24.680 probably why you would have men at the helm saying that, well, 2319 01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:27.439 women can't do this because clearly I'm a man, and 2320 01:45:27.560 --> 01:45:30.319 clearly you're not receiving these messages, right, And so you 2321 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:33.119 could understand like a little bit of the butt herdedness 2322 01:45:33.399 --> 01:45:35.760 that you would get from a woman, that the hell 2323 01:45:35.880 --> 01:45:38.600 hath no fury, like a woman scorned and all that. Like, 2324 01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:41.159 you could understand that because it kind of is up 2325 01:45:41.199 --> 01:45:44.319 to the interpreter. Now you could say, well, God speaks 2326 01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:48.279 in very clear messages. Well, maybe he does to you, 2327 01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:50.000 but is that meant for the world. 2328 01:45:50.159 --> 01:45:50.520 I don't know. 2329 01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:52.720 It's like there's a lot of conjecture here. 2330 01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:56.199 I think one of the things that's become really clear 2331 01:45:56.239 --> 01:45:58.920 to me over time is what you're touching on is 2332 01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:02.199 like the actual heart of the mystery, I think. And 2333 01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:05.520 it's that across all these different cultures, they're all telling 2334 01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:08.399 the same story, but with minor details that deviate one 2335 01:46:08.439 --> 01:46:11.439 way or another. And for a long time I was 2336 01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:14.199 a yakub in a sense, right, I was like, oh, 2337 01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:17.079 okay on Anaki sky Daddy's right. Zacharia Sitchen seems to 2338 01:46:17.159 --> 01:46:20.159 have like a pretty decent explanation of these things. Maybe 2339 01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:22.199 we were created as a slave race to mind gold 2340 01:46:22.319 --> 01:46:24.680 for a superior group of entities that's on a planet 2341 01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:27.000 that's on an elliptical orbit that comes back every so 2342 01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:29.359 many thousands of years, and for whatever reason, they need 2343 01:46:29.399 --> 01:46:32.199 gold suspended in their atmosphere. And they created us from 2344 01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:36.399 you know, ancient or early monkeys essentially in order to 2345 01:46:36.439 --> 01:46:37.079 be good slave. 2346 01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:40.359 Keeps getting recycled by different people. It's kind of crazy, 2347 01:46:40.399 --> 01:46:43.399 different names get attributed. But the aliens need gold, man, Yeah, 2348 01:46:43.439 --> 01:46:44.359 the aliens need gold. 2349 01:46:44.399 --> 01:46:47.520 But the thing I think that's significant about the Biblical interpretation, 2350 01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:50.479 and you know, you use a lot of different tools, right, 2351 01:46:50.560 --> 01:46:54.000 I'm not I'm never saying I don't look at the Autanaki. 2352 01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:56.640 I'm never saying I don't look at you know, the whatever, 2353 01:46:56.720 --> 01:46:59.279 the ancient Peruvians, the Inca, whatever they believed. And I 2354 01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:01.399 look at all those things and I recognize there's a 2355 01:47:01.439 --> 01:47:03.680 tremendous through line. And so the question that becomes, well, 2356 01:47:03.800 --> 01:47:08.079 why then is yours the source of truth and theirs isn't? 2357 01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:09.920 And I would say that, and I'm not saying that 2358 01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:11.319 anybody accused me he of that, but I'm saying that 2359 01:47:11.359 --> 01:47:14.479 would be a misnomer. There is a tremendous amount of 2360 01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:16.720 truth within all of these things. It just mind's a 2361 01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:18.479 little bit more true. And the reason that it's a 2362 01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:21.479 little bit more true, I think is because it has 2363 01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:27.159 the nature of these entities down. The other belief systems 2364 01:47:27.560 --> 01:47:30.199 venerate and worship them, and they always want some sort 2365 01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:32.760 of a sacrifice, by the way, it's always, you know, 2366 01:47:33.119 --> 01:47:38.479 give me offerings, kill this thing, whatever, whatever, And Christianity 2367 01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:42.000 is the only one that says these things do exist. Which, 2368 01:47:42.079 --> 01:47:43.800 by the way, for a long time, the Church just 2369 01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:47.159 fumbled that ball, immeasurably fumbled that ball. It was like, 2370 01:47:47.239 --> 01:47:50.560 let us create a seminower dogy, Yeah, do not take 2371 01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:51.640 any other gods before me? 2372 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:52.399 What other gods? 2373 01:47:52.479 --> 01:47:52.600 Right? 2374 01:47:52.760 --> 01:47:54.600 Fumble that ball miserably so. 2375 01:47:54.760 --> 01:47:56.880 They could have acknowledged it. Remember when they brought the 2376 01:47:57.000 --> 01:47:59.399 ark of the Covenant into the temple of another god 2377 01:47:59.439 --> 01:48:01.479 and that status which you got destroyed by. 2378 01:48:01.479 --> 01:48:05.079 Some right, I mean, it's right there, over and over 2379 01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:08.560 and over again, by the way. So if you can 2380 01:48:08.640 --> 01:48:12.239 address that and say there are other gods, but let 2381 01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:15.159 me explain the nature of them. The nature of them 2382 01:48:15.399 --> 01:48:19.720 is that a third of these spiritual beings they transgressed, 2383 01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:24.199 they rebelled, they are fallen, and that idea of like, 2384 01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:29.119 why would an all loving God allow these things. I 2385 01:48:29.159 --> 01:48:31.840 think our idea of love. Well he doesn't though. That's 2386 01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:34.399 that's the very free will about that. That's free will. 2387 01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:35.760 There you go, that that's that's it. 2388 01:48:36.239 --> 01:48:40.319 This idea why it's all loving, bro, that's free will. 2389 01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:43.359 Yeah, exactly. The ones who don't have free will, Jonathan, 2390 01:48:43.439 --> 01:48:46.600 are those fallen angels. They've accepted some form of worship 2391 01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:50.439 from God's creation people, and that's when you fall. He's 2392 01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:53.000 placed them over a certain localities. Every time Israel's had 2393 01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:55.000 a king, he's like all right, like and they even 2394 01:48:55.039 --> 01:48:56.520 mentioned in the Bible it's like, well you have the 2395 01:48:56.600 --> 01:48:58.560 king here, and then you have this prince this uh, 2396 01:48:59.159 --> 01:49:02.880 this being above him, and oftentimes that being will then 2397 01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.800 fall because they accept the worship. So, in my opinion, 2398 01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:07.800 when whenever you read the Bible, whenever you see God 2399 01:49:07.960 --> 01:49:10.439 talk to when he right right in the beginning, he's 2400 01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:12.600 talking to Adam and even he's like, hey, guys, uh, 2401 01:49:13.159 --> 01:49:15.319 what are you doing over there? Where are you lie? 2402 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:18.039 And they fumble and they and they oh, but but 2403 01:49:18.159 --> 01:49:19.960 the woman, Oh but you gave me to her and 2404 01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:21.760 they blame God, and God's like, all right, not cool. 2405 01:49:21.880 --> 01:49:23.319 He say, I'm going to address a snake, and when 2406 01:49:23.359 --> 01:49:26.000 he addresses the nakash the snake, he talks to him 2407 01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:29.279 and judges him directly. It's not a bargain. There is 2408 01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:31.600 no love there because there's no free will. 2409 01:49:32.279 --> 01:49:34.880 And that's a master speaking to his slave. 2410 01:49:35.159 --> 01:49:38.119 Yes, when you look at the Bible, he always he 2411 01:49:38.239 --> 01:49:40.479 kind of has a tendency to ask humans questions, right, 2412 01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:42.560 even though it's like when God's walking through the garden, 2413 01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:44.079 he's looking for him and he's like where are you? 2414 01:49:44.239 --> 01:49:45.319 Like God knows where you are. 2415 01:49:45.279 --> 01:49:47.119 But you're behind the leaves. 2416 01:49:47.359 --> 01:49:49.279 Yes, it's like you're talking to your child, like what 2417 01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:51.960 did you do? Why did you do that? What did 2418 01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:53.000 we say about doing that? 2419 01:49:53.319 --> 01:49:55.520 But then when he finds the thing that should know better, 2420 01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:59.359 there is only statements, pointed statements, no questions, go back 2421 01:49:59.399 --> 01:50:02.239 and look, no questions. Whenever God talks to a spiritual entity, 2422 01:50:02.279 --> 01:50:03.119 there's no questions. 2423 01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:05.119 It's statements. He's he's speaking things. 2424 01:50:05.039 --> 01:50:07.720 And they're talking harsh yes' final. 2425 01:50:08.159 --> 01:50:10.680 So I mean you know this idea of like why 2426 01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:13.159 would an all loving God allow for a planet that 2427 01:50:13.279 --> 01:50:14.720 is filled with you know, rape and murder and all 2428 01:50:14.760 --> 01:50:17.039 these terrible things. It's like he set a bunch of 2429 01:50:17.119 --> 01:50:19.399 things into motion, and he gave us free will, and 2430 01:50:19.479 --> 01:50:22.359 he went and he just let it all play out. 2431 01:50:22.439 --> 01:50:26.119 And it's like there is a lot of different attributing factors, 2432 01:50:26.239 --> 01:50:29.520 our own willingness to engage in self worship and sin 2433 01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:32.439 instead of choosing God. But also there are these entities 2434 01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:35.399 that he also gave some sort of high place to 2435 01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:37.560 and then rebelled against him, and now they are all 2436 01:50:37.840 --> 01:50:41.239 So it seems like we're the nature of God. 2437 01:50:41.520 --> 01:50:44.159 You're what you're explaining the nature between God, big g 2438 01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:46.920 God and these small g gods. What is the difference, Well, 2439 01:50:46.960 --> 01:50:52.159 the difference would be that these things are not number one, 2440 01:50:52.239 --> 01:50:53.079 not our creators. 2441 01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:56.399 So that's that's like the the I do think they're 2442 01:50:56.439 --> 01:50:59.319 capable of lying, and I do think that what they 2443 01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:03.039 seek to do is to pervert, invert God's creation. If 2444 01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:05.880 they can convince us that we were created as a 2445 01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:08.479 slave race, it would answer a question why are we 2446 01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:10.760 so unique here on this planet? But then it would 2447 01:51:10.760 --> 01:51:13.319 also demoralize us, like, oh, we're not special, we're not 2448 01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:16.760 meaningful whatsoever. We're actually just slave monkeys meant to harvest gold. 2449 01:51:18.079 --> 01:51:20.640 But you know a lot of people, they'll they'll tell me, 2450 01:51:20.840 --> 01:51:23.640 especially on Twitter, oh, you believe in your book and 2451 01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:25.520 your religion, and you don't believe in the other ones. 2452 01:51:25.560 --> 01:51:27.359 And it's like, no, I do believe in the other ones. 2453 01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:30.079 I just think that they're missing some very important key details. 2454 01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:33.359 Like I believe that the Vedics, you know, the the 2455 01:51:33.600 --> 01:51:37.079 the Indian religions, are dealing with the real pantheon of 2456 01:51:37.520 --> 01:51:38.239 blue gods with. 2457 01:51:38.319 --> 01:51:39.239 Multiple arms and shit. 2458 01:51:39.319 --> 01:51:42.640 I believe those entities exist, maybe used to be more physical, 2459 01:51:42.960 --> 01:51:44.039 certainly do exist in. 2460 01:51:44.079 --> 01:51:48.279 A few creation story. It is fucking wild. 2461 01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:51.119 Yeah, dude, So, I mean, I think the same thing 2462 01:51:51.159 --> 01:51:53.800 with the Greek pantheon. I think they exist. I think 2463 01:51:53.880 --> 01:51:56.600 that they but you have the nature down. I don't 2464 01:51:56.640 --> 01:52:00.760 think Zeus created us from clay. I think God created 2465 01:52:00.800 --> 01:52:03.640 us from dust, and that Zeus is one of the fallen. 2466 01:52:04.079 --> 01:52:06.520 So it's it's well, what does Zeus require from you? 2467 01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:07.600 And what does God require? 2468 01:52:07.920 --> 01:52:12.039 God sent his own son to die for you. All 2469 01:52:12.159 --> 01:52:16.199 these other things require that you sacrifice to them. Yeah, 2470 01:52:16.720 --> 01:52:20.479 that is the key component that's missing with these other religions. 2471 01:52:20.520 --> 01:52:23.520 They all need something for you. They're all harvesting humanity 2472 01:52:23.880 --> 01:52:24.680 for somebody. 2473 01:52:24.680 --> 01:52:26.920 You're saying this. I actually watched it was like a 2474 01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:29.239 five minute YouTube video where it was like, all right, 2475 01:52:29.319 --> 01:52:31.279 every religion on earth, if you were to line them up, 2476 01:52:31.560 --> 01:52:37.800 and there's a mountain. The peak of this mountain is enlightenment, Heaven, Brahmud, 2477 01:52:39.279 --> 01:52:43.000 the next out of the state of reincarnation, whatever, whatever 2478 01:52:43.079 --> 01:52:46.640 you're trying to achieve. The pinnacle goal here is at 2479 01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:48.640 the very peak of this mountain, and everybody take off. 2480 01:52:49.520 --> 01:52:51.600 Christians are the only ones that would not step foot 2481 01:52:51.640 --> 01:52:54.279 on the mountain because we know we will never get 2482 01:52:54.359 --> 01:52:57.640 there on our own. It's impossible for us as humans 2483 01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:00.399 to reach that tip the top of the mountain, no way. 2484 01:53:00.600 --> 01:53:04.319 But they keep giving this original sin is yes, that's what. 2485 01:53:04.279 --> 01:53:05.960 We're going into it. We don't have to teach a 2486 01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:07.920 child how to lie, We don't have to have to 2487 01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:09.600 teach a child how to steal. We have to teach 2488 01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:12.319 him to tell the truth and be honest. That's indicative. 2489 01:53:12.439 --> 01:53:15.239 That's human nature that's built into us. It's okay, God 2490 01:53:15.399 --> 01:53:18.640 knows he made us that way, but we also accept 2491 01:53:18.680 --> 01:53:21.479 that that sacrifice that is not asked of us was 2492 01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:22.359 already paid. 2493 01:53:23.600 --> 01:53:25.600 So I think what we're seeing here when it comes 2494 01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:28.720 to other religions and Christianity, they're all telling the same story, 2495 01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:32.720 but there is a lie that it hinges upon that 2496 01:53:32.840 --> 01:53:35.960 comes from these other things, and you know it's it's 2497 01:53:36.039 --> 01:53:37.560 really a tale as old as time. If they're going 2498 01:53:37.600 --> 01:53:40.359 to roll out disclosure and they're going to show us 2499 01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:41.760 some you know what we. 2500 01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:44.039 Came here to talk about Cliff High December third disclosure. 2501 01:53:44.079 --> 01:53:45.399 So this is the part I guess the las. 2502 01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:45.920 Yeah, I guess. 2503 01:53:45.960 --> 01:53:49.600 So yeah, let's say that we are moving towards disclosure. 2504 01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:51.840 Our own government is going to reveal to us that 2505 01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:55.520 there is some sort of exterior entity outside of humanity 2506 01:53:55.600 --> 01:53:57.920 and it's playing a role one way or another. Well, 2507 01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:01.640 what do we have that gives us some idea about 2508 01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:06.239 what they might be saying? We only have Hollywood, right 2509 01:54:06.479 --> 01:54:09.159 whatever Hollywood's told us that these things are because otherwise 2510 01:54:09.279 --> 01:54:13.119 it's been obfuscated and hidden and kind of lied about. 2511 01:54:13.199 --> 01:54:15.279 But we all have this narrative that we're pretty comfortable 2512 01:54:15.319 --> 01:54:18.600 with as far as like, are potentially benign space brothers 2513 01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:22.159 come to stop us from mutually assured nuclear destruction. Maybe 2514 01:54:22.399 --> 01:54:25.319 they seem to have a real interest in nuclear facilities. 2515 01:54:25.439 --> 01:54:28.359 Right now, you have this drone incursion over Picatinny Arsenal 2516 01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:31.479 for the nuclear facilities in New Jersey. If that does 2517 01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:34.399 go where this guy that I mentioned, Cliff High says 2518 01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:36.720 that it's going we might be seeing that soon. 2519 01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:40.079 And it was a spiritual thing. 2520 01:54:41.279 --> 01:54:46.039 There's it's a complex thing, right, the Aloheim worship could 2521 01:54:46.439 --> 01:54:47.520 that's what he calls the Jews. 2522 01:54:47.800 --> 01:54:49.159 He calls the Jews, the Yelo. 2523 01:54:49.880 --> 01:54:50.399 The drones. 2524 01:54:50.479 --> 01:54:53.319 I'm sorry, I was no, no, no, well, you know, drones, 2525 01:54:53.359 --> 01:54:53.880 the drones. 2526 01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:57.439 The drones are a precursor. So like again the day 2527 01:54:57.479 --> 01:55:01.520 of Bohemian Grove. The first day Trump goes on Rogan's show, 2528 01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:04.680 there's an interview. That is the temporal marker that web 2529 01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:07.640 bot predicted. It scrapes internet for predictive linguistics, and it 2530 01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:10.159 turned out that result in two thousand and nine. He 2531 01:55:10.199 --> 01:55:11.920 didn't know where to put it. I showed you the 2532 01:55:12.199 --> 01:55:15.119 picture of the remote viewer that did the drawing. He 2533 01:55:15.199 --> 01:55:18.359 thought it was happening in twenty twenty with the Biden debate. 2534 01:55:18.479 --> 01:55:20.920 Didn't happen. Turns out it happened in twenty twenty four. 2535 01:55:21.319 --> 01:55:23.840 That's the temporal market in marker in which thirty nine 2536 01:55:23.920 --> 01:55:27.600 days later will be shifting into something cold sci fi world, 2537 01:55:28.119 --> 01:55:31.680 and that will be marked by something cold that he's 2538 01:55:31.720 --> 01:55:34.399 describing as a melee in the skies, and that's popping 2539 01:55:34.439 --> 01:55:36.680 off at December third. Was there a melee in the 2540 01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:39.920 sky's December third? No, But on December third, I can 2541 01:55:39.960 --> 01:55:41.920 go back to my messages when David was texting me, 2542 01:55:42.039 --> 01:55:45.159 sending me videos of drones or he was calling them. 2543 01:55:45.159 --> 01:55:47.800 We were calling them UFOs right away over his hometown 2544 01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:49.840 in New Jersey. He's getting the shit from Facebook. So 2545 01:55:49.880 --> 01:55:52.199 I'm like, oh, there's something in the sky. So something 2546 01:55:52.279 --> 01:55:55.319 popped off December third when this guy said it would happen, 2547 01:55:56.039 --> 01:55:57.840 and here we are. I think we're on the brink 2548 01:55:57.840 --> 01:55:59.920 of it. They've already given orders. They're like, shoot these 2549 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:02.439 things down. So there's your melee in the skuis And 2550 01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:03.960 melee is defined as uh. 2551 01:56:04.239 --> 01:56:06.199 I actually have the definition here top. If you haven't 2552 01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:07.960 put it, please please. 2553 01:56:07.760 --> 01:56:10.199 Do because this have y'all heard the new weapon system 2554 01:56:10.199 --> 01:56:14.399 America's developed. Now tell me the definition of melee real quick. 2555 01:56:14.600 --> 01:56:15.760 Well, this is going to be I don't think this 2556 01:56:15.880 --> 01:56:18.319 is going to be playing necessarily into what you're alluding to. 2557 01:56:18.439 --> 01:56:21.319 But Cliff High this is his given definition of melee. 2558 01:56:21.439 --> 01:56:23.159 So it's not the actual definition of the word, it's 2559 01:56:23.199 --> 01:56:28.399 his given one. When command is absent within active contention. 2560 01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:31.680 So something is happening. There's contention happening, but there's no 2561 01:56:31.840 --> 01:56:37.560 command structure, and that results in individuated decisions, individuals calling 2562 01:56:37.600 --> 01:56:40.079 shots where there is no boss above them, and that 2563 01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:43.560 produces chaos. So essentially, you've chopped the head of the 2564 01:56:43.680 --> 01:56:47.319 control structure off and nobody is answering to anybody. There's 2565 01:56:47.399 --> 01:56:50.560 contingency plans, there's all kinds of people trying to fill 2566 01:56:50.640 --> 01:56:53.520 that power vacuum, and they're just pulling triggers and that's 2567 01:56:53.600 --> 01:56:54.399 causing chaos. 2568 01:56:54.840 --> 01:57:00.840 Gentlemen, gentlemen, buckle in, brace yourselves, because I don't think 2569 01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:04.039 that could have been laid out any more perfect. Now again, yeah, 2570 01:57:04.439 --> 01:57:10.479 for two seconds, two seconds remove extra entities and glowing 2571 01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:12.920 orbs for just two seconds. I'm not denying that they're there. 2572 01:57:13.399 --> 01:57:16.880 But this also could be something that the American government's 2573 01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:21.159 developing for that maybe you just hear me out. They 2574 01:57:21.279 --> 01:57:24.359 have just successfully test fired the newest bomb and I 2575 01:57:24.399 --> 01:57:27.079 couldn't tell you the name. It's the XR numbers and 2576 01:57:27.159 --> 01:57:30.680 letters and stupid. Yeah, basically, what this is is a 2577 01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:32.520 bomb that is gonna be able to be dropped from 2578 01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:35.840 either a B fifty two or from a fighter that 2579 01:57:36.439 --> 01:57:40.520 once it drops, it expands to like five to ten 2580 01:57:40.640 --> 01:57:44.439 different drones that are all now on a kamikaze mission, 2581 01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:48.119 geared by AI to attack whatever the fuck that plane 2582 01:57:48.239 --> 01:57:53.039 just told it to attack. So we have aeronautic combat 2583 01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:57.479 devoid of command that was sent at one point in time, 2584 01:57:57.560 --> 01:57:59.800 but once it drops the bomb, those drones are doing 2585 01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:03.119 the the drone shit right, So that could be used 2586 01:58:03.199 --> 01:58:06.600 to take out swarms of drones, could be used to 2587 01:58:06.680 --> 01:58:08.600 take out another fighter, you know what I mean. It 2588 01:58:08.640 --> 01:58:11.239 could be for whatever reason. But seeing us how the 2589 01:58:11.399 --> 01:58:14.960 United States just developed a brand new bomb that apparently 2590 01:58:15.079 --> 01:58:17.000 like it's not something threw together in their basement. They've 2591 01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:19.880 been working on this shit for a while, apparently, as 2592 01:58:19.920 --> 01:58:22.319 if they knew that drone swarming was gonna be a 2593 01:58:22.399 --> 01:58:23.039 thing one day. 2594 01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:26.119 By the way, Eli Musk tweeted about that like two 2595 01:58:26.239 --> 01:58:30.199 years ago. He said, the future coming drone wars are 2596 01:58:30.239 --> 01:58:31.399 going to blow people's minds. 2597 01:58:31.920 --> 01:58:35.720 Yeah, that tracks though, Jacob, That sound like aeronautic melee 2598 01:58:36.039 --> 01:58:37.000 to you. Yeah. 2599 01:58:37.039 --> 01:58:39.760 And this is the thing is like it is extraterrestrial, 2600 01:58:39.800 --> 01:58:42.600 it is, but it is also governmental. If you look 2601 01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:46.239 back to when we experienced these the alien phenomenon. It's 2602 01:58:46.239 --> 01:58:49.560 it was like fifty seven Roswell the nuclear era. All 2603 01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:53.199 the time around military basis. Whenever there's like a I 2604 01:58:53.279 --> 01:58:56.359 had n't pulled up before, but there's instances of possible 2605 01:58:56.439 --> 01:58:58.159 nuclear war where someone's going to press a button and 2606 01:58:58.239 --> 01:59:00.760 it's like, for at least four instance is where the 2607 01:59:01.399 --> 01:59:03.640 weaponry has been shut down in some form or fashion 2608 01:59:03.720 --> 01:59:07.199 by UFO, and that's just documented, that's Project Blue Book. 2609 01:59:07.520 --> 01:59:12.560 So I thought that the UFO armed it. Oh, I think, yeah, 2610 01:59:12.560 --> 01:59:14.000 it was. It was messing with it, for sure. 2611 01:59:14.079 --> 01:59:15.560 It was like that video where it like shoots a 2612 01:59:15.640 --> 01:59:19.039 laser beam, like it shoots a beam at at the weapon. 2613 01:59:19.119 --> 01:59:22.159 But you know, I don't like this sort of language 2614 01:59:22.199 --> 01:59:26.640 because one element to this drone incursion that is becoming 2615 01:59:26.680 --> 01:59:30.600 pretty prominent is the idea that there there is missing 2616 01:59:30.960 --> 01:59:35.760 radioactive material. Nuclear material of some variety came into Newark Port. 2617 01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:40.640 The shipping container was damaged, opened, and the radioactive material 2618 01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:43.720 was missing. And people in the know that are in 2619 01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:47.640 the military say that from their standpoint, the drones appear 2620 01:59:47.680 --> 01:59:51.760 to be looking for something, and are they using a 2621 01:59:51.840 --> 01:59:55.359 sort of radar that doesn't require daylight? Right, So whatever 2622 01:59:55.359 --> 01:59:57.439 they're searching for it's not just on a basic optics 2623 01:59:57.479 --> 01:59:59.439 it's some sort of a radar. They're searching for traces 2624 01:59:59.479 --> 02:00:01.640 of something. Butotentially they don't need to operate during the 2625 02:00:01.720 --> 02:00:04.479 daytime for this, and so all the occursions are happening 2626 02:00:04.520 --> 02:00:06.039 at night. I mean, there is some that happened in 2627 02:00:06.119 --> 02:00:08.239 the daytime, but there's also hoaxes. 2628 02:00:08.359 --> 02:00:12.319 It's bipartisan. That's why it's so nerve wracking. Both sides 2629 02:00:12.359 --> 02:00:15.199 of the aisle, regardless of whatever, are all in on. 2630 02:00:15.279 --> 02:00:17.800 It's just going with the narrative. There's nobody at the 2631 02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:18.720 top questioning it. Now. 2632 02:00:18.720 --> 02:00:20.960 I don't think that they're I don't think that it 2633 02:00:21.079 --> 02:00:23.079 is a hoax though. I think that that story actually 2634 02:00:23.199 --> 02:00:25.600 is right, that the drones are trying to track something, 2635 02:00:25.680 --> 02:00:27.840 because if you go back to the story. 2636 02:00:28.119 --> 02:00:30.359 The cover ups by parts and not the hoax. 2637 02:00:30.560 --> 02:00:32.520 Sure, sure, but if you go back to the story. 2638 02:00:32.800 --> 02:00:36.439 Have you guys followed Chris Bledsoe. No, I'm not familiar 2639 02:00:36.479 --> 02:00:36.720 with him. 2640 02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:39.399 So he wrote a book that's well, that's the name 2641 02:00:39.439 --> 02:00:41.479 of his son's podcast is called Bledsoe said so, But 2642 02:00:41.920 --> 02:00:45.399 if you Chris Bledsoe his dad, he wrote a book 2643 02:00:45.399 --> 02:00:48.439 called The Ufo of God and basically like what all 2644 02:00:48.520 --> 02:00:50.720 these people are seeing, like all these orbs and everything 2645 02:00:50.760 --> 02:00:53.159 in the sky. Now that shit was happening to him 2646 02:00:53.279 --> 02:00:57.960 like twelve fourteen, fifteen years ago, and he like, I 2647 02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:01.119 guess he got a story from this entity that came 2648 02:01:01.560 --> 02:01:04.880 down in one of these orbs and told him like 2649 02:01:04.960 --> 02:01:07.159 a prophecy of something that was getting ready to happen. 2650 02:01:07.439 --> 02:01:10.560 And that prophecy was that towards the end I think 2651 02:01:10.600 --> 02:01:13.359 it was the end of twenty twenty four, literally, that 2652 02:01:13.479 --> 02:01:16.359 there would be something that would that would be happening 2653 02:01:16.479 --> 02:01:18.439 on the East coast, that there could be some kind 2654 02:01:18.479 --> 02:01:21.119 of chemical or some kind of weapon of mass destruction 2655 02:01:21.239 --> 02:01:24.319 that would be coming here and that that would happen. 2656 02:01:24.439 --> 02:01:28.079 But also the orbs, the entities whatever he was speaking with, 2657 02:01:28.479 --> 02:01:30.720 that they would be there to prevent some kind of 2658 02:01:30.800 --> 02:01:31.560 weird outbreak. 2659 02:01:32.399 --> 02:01:34.039 And it, dude, it matches up. 2660 02:01:34.640 --> 02:01:36.520 That's the thing that makes me afraid, Jonathan, because I'm like, 2661 02:01:36.600 --> 02:01:40.760 you create its problem reaction solution, right, uh Agilian dialect. 2662 02:01:40.960 --> 02:01:42.680 And well, he believes that it is. 2663 02:01:42.720 --> 02:01:45.000 God, though I will say that like he believes that 2664 02:01:45.079 --> 02:01:48.079 he's convers he is a he's a Christian bab. 2665 02:01:50.119 --> 02:01:52.199 He's a guy that has a book called Ufo of 2666 02:01:52.279 --> 02:01:53.840 God because I'm like looking to this Twitter y. 2667 02:01:53.960 --> 02:01:54.680 Yeah, that's yeah. 2668 02:01:55.000 --> 02:01:57.319 Oh he's been on Fox News before. Dude, Chris Bless 2669 02:01:57.399 --> 02:01:58.600 that has been around shows. 2670 02:01:58.600 --> 02:02:02.920 Fucking dude, Baba who is that? Like babushka old psychic lady. 2671 02:02:02.960 --> 02:02:04.720 She died a long time ago, but she's famous for 2672 02:02:04.800 --> 02:02:07.119 predicting nine to eleven the death of Princess Diana. She 2673 02:02:07.199 --> 02:02:10.039 also successfully predicted her own death down to the day. 2674 02:02:11.319 --> 02:02:13.399 She predicted that we were going to have alien contact 2675 02:02:13.520 --> 02:02:17.119 in twenty twenty five. Alice Bailey, in conjunction with the 2676 02:02:17.159 --> 02:02:20.560 works of Helena Blovotsky, came to the conclusion that twenty 2677 02:02:20.680 --> 02:02:22.000 twenty five was going to be the beginning of a 2678 02:02:22.039 --> 02:02:24.399 golden Age, which is interesting because that's the same language 2679 02:02:24.399 --> 02:02:26.520 that Trump is used recently to talk about what's coming. 2680 02:02:27.399 --> 02:02:30.720 Says that twenty twenty five AD is going to serve 2681 02:02:30.840 --> 02:02:33.640 as the age of Aquarius, which, if you're paying attention 2682 02:02:33.760 --> 02:02:36.199 to you know, people who are steeped in the occult, Yeah, 2683 02:02:36.479 --> 02:02:38.039 the Age of Aquarius has been on the horizon for 2684 02:02:38.119 --> 02:02:41.640 some time. But also that this moment in time twenty 2685 02:02:41.800 --> 02:02:45.680 twenty five would be marked by the return of Christ. 2686 02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:49.640 Somewhere after twenty twenty five. There are a lot of 2687 02:02:49.840 --> 02:02:52.840 people that are predicting that twenty twenty five is going 2688 02:02:52.880 --> 02:02:54.800 to be of some sort of consequence two thousand and 2689 02:02:54.840 --> 02:02:59.039 nine or two thousand and eight in FBI, guy I 2690 02:02:59.079 --> 02:03:01.720 don't know, is some sort of whistleblower is interviewed. I 2691 02:03:01.800 --> 02:03:03.800 got to find the video on it, but he's basically 2692 02:03:03.880 --> 02:03:07.680 saying that this whole alien discussion, he's saying this back 2693 02:03:07.720 --> 02:03:09.079 in two thousand and eight or two thousand and nine 2694 02:03:09.399 --> 02:03:11.439 is going to come to a head and finally be 2695 02:03:11.560 --> 02:03:16.800 revealed in twenty twenty five. So I don't know the 2696 02:03:16.960 --> 02:03:20.239 exact nature of these things. I have some ideas. 2697 02:03:20.319 --> 02:03:20.800 I think that. 2698 02:03:22.640 --> 02:03:25.319 You know, we're talking about the Hegelian dialect, this idea 2699 02:03:25.359 --> 02:03:28.439 of like creating a problem, waiting for the public to 2700 02:03:28.520 --> 02:03:30.760 clamor for a solution, and then providing one to them. 2701 02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:36.079 Cliff High, the guy who has this predictive program, says 2702 02:03:36.159 --> 02:03:39.159 that there's going to be two elements of UFOs involved 2703 02:03:39.199 --> 02:03:41.399 in this. There's going to be a human element drones, 2704 02:03:41.680 --> 02:03:43.720 and there's going to be two alien factions. One of 2705 02:03:43.760 --> 02:03:45.560 them is good and one of them is bad. And 2706 02:03:45.680 --> 02:03:47.439 the bad ones, he said, are likely going to be 2707 02:03:47.520 --> 02:03:49.399 the grays. And what I find significant about that is, 2708 02:03:49.439 --> 02:03:51.920 I think the grays or are automatons. I think there 2709 02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:55.920 are biologics, they're biomechanics. They're not real, they don't have 2710 02:03:56.000 --> 02:03:59.039 reproductive organs, they don't have emotions. I think they might 2711 02:03:59.119 --> 02:04:02.439 be suitable for spiritual entities to inhabit to some degree, 2712 02:04:02.479 --> 02:04:05.279 to be able to execute physical jobs within our realm. 2713 02:04:05.560 --> 02:04:07.079 But I think that that's pretty much where the buck 2714 02:04:07.079 --> 02:04:10.520 stops from them. They're just automatons. What would be fascinating 2715 02:04:10.720 --> 02:04:16.039 is if we do have the good aliens destroy the automatons, who, 2716 02:04:16.039 --> 02:04:18.439 by the way, we would never accept as saviors because 2717 02:04:18.760 --> 02:04:20.520 why do they take us against our will in the 2718 02:04:20.520 --> 02:04:22.319 middle of the night, Why do they experiment on us, 2719 02:04:22.359 --> 02:04:24.880 Why do they, you know, abduct people who seemingly never 2720 02:04:24.920 --> 02:04:25.239 come back. 2721 02:04:25.279 --> 02:04:28.960 There's all these horror stories. People are not pumped about abductions, 2722 02:04:29.279 --> 02:04:31.279 so especially from their aliens. 2723 02:04:31.920 --> 02:04:35.319 Right, so we would never have accepted them as good guys. 2724 02:04:35.439 --> 02:04:38.800 What if you had these things that belonged to you, 2725 02:04:39.279 --> 02:04:42.800 that executed all the shit that is your will, but 2726 02:04:43.800 --> 02:04:46.600 never seeing you do that. They only the humans only 2727 02:04:46.640 --> 02:04:49.159 see the grays do it. What if You then destroyed 2728 02:04:49.239 --> 02:04:51.920 the Grays and said, look, we killed the bad guys. 2729 02:04:52.000 --> 02:04:54.399 We're here to help you, not only from them, but 2730 02:04:54.680 --> 02:04:57.840 also to stop this nuclear thing. We could be By 2731 02:04:57.880 --> 02:05:00.319 the way, Cliff thinks that after this happens, all the 2732 02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:03.159 world religions are going to fall away and consolidate under this, 2733 02:05:03.359 --> 02:05:08.319 like alien religion. I can't really think of a more 2734 02:05:08.439 --> 02:05:10.319 impactful thing that you could do to the public. It's 2735 02:05:10.359 --> 02:05:12.680 like you pull the veil back. There are aliens, there 2736 02:05:12.680 --> 02:05:13.560 are bad aliens. 2737 02:05:13.600 --> 02:05:16.000 We're on the cusp of nuclear war. Everything is chaos. 2738 02:05:16.199 --> 02:05:17.640 Who saves us? These guys? 2739 02:05:17.720 --> 02:05:18.159 What do they do? 2740 02:05:18.319 --> 02:05:21.800 They then give us zero point technology. They then help 2741 02:05:21.920 --> 02:05:23.680 us to you know, elevate. 2742 02:05:23.720 --> 02:05:25.720 I don't know if you guys have ever seen Childhood's End, 2743 02:05:26.319 --> 02:05:30.159 where basically aliens show up. They hang out in the 2744 02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:32.319 skies for some time. They tell us that they're here 2745 02:05:32.439 --> 02:05:35.359 wishing us well. Everything's good. They give us technology and 2746 02:05:35.479 --> 02:05:37.920 new systems. We live in a utopia. They will not 2747 02:05:38.039 --> 02:05:41.039 show themselves to us until a promised date years in 2748 02:05:41.079 --> 02:05:43.279 the future. And when they finally do show themselves to us, 2749 02:05:43.359 --> 02:05:46.600 they look like fucking Satan, you know, so big greasy 2750 02:05:46.760 --> 02:05:49.279 red demons with horns and shit. And I'm not saying 2751 02:05:49.279 --> 02:05:52.239 that that's what's going to happen here, but we would, 2752 02:05:53.159 --> 02:05:55.520 especially at this point in the game, everything is so 2753 02:05:56.640 --> 02:05:59.560 full of turmoil and uncertainty. If you dial that up 2754 02:05:59.600 --> 02:06:02.039 any more, and you gave us real shit to fear 2755 02:06:02.159 --> 02:06:05.359 on a real horizon that's in the near future, and 2756 02:06:05.439 --> 02:06:08.000 then we had this savior force roll in. 2757 02:06:08.279 --> 02:06:10.680 I hope to God that's not what we're rolling towards, 2758 02:06:10.880 --> 02:06:12.880 because it would work so well. 2759 02:06:13.560 --> 02:06:16.680 Isn't that But isn't that exactly what happened around like 2760 02:06:17.079 --> 02:06:20.680 kind of like it rhymes a little bit what happened 2761 02:06:20.720 --> 02:06:23.720 like two thousand years ago, right like, there seemed to 2762 02:06:23.800 --> 02:06:26.640 be some kind of entity that came from the sky 2763 02:06:26.880 --> 02:06:30.079 or the heavens, and there was some kind of savior 2764 02:06:30.199 --> 02:06:31.600 that brought everybody together. 2765 02:06:32.119 --> 02:06:34.840 Right like, it seems like the story is repeating. 2766 02:06:34.920 --> 02:06:37.600 You'll get these elements if you look at this long 2767 02:06:37.720 --> 02:06:39.159 enough and you believe, if you look at things through 2768 02:06:39.199 --> 02:06:40.800 the lens of these entities are real and they are 2769 02:06:40.840 --> 02:06:43.439 the fallen, you'll notice what they like to do. And 2770 02:06:43.520 --> 02:06:45.640 what they like to do is take things that are 2771 02:06:45.680 --> 02:06:48.000 God's laws and principles and flip them on their head. 2772 02:06:48.239 --> 02:06:51.680 So at the beginning of at the beginning of the Tribulation, 2773 02:06:51.840 --> 02:06:53.199 which is a kind of like when all this stuff 2774 02:06:53.279 --> 02:06:55.680 is going to pop off, they're going to erect that 2775 02:06:55.760 --> 02:06:58.720 Third Temple, and that's when they'll start some forms of 2776 02:06:58.800 --> 02:07:02.720 sacrifice which were specifically asked to not happen anymore after 2777 02:07:02.760 --> 02:07:05.079 the New Covenant. So this is again it's like, what 2778 02:07:05.119 --> 02:07:07.000 are they gonna ask me? And Jesus asked for you 2779 02:07:07.079 --> 02:07:09.920 to worship, but he doesn't ask for your sacrifice. He 2780 02:07:10.039 --> 02:07:11.399 did that for you, So it's like it again, it's 2781 02:07:11.439 --> 02:07:12.720 this is the complete opposite. 2782 02:07:12.760 --> 02:07:16.880 But go ahead, look at Hitler's Germany as far as 2783 02:07:17.039 --> 02:07:20.920 what would happen if okay, Germany was in shambles, no answer. 2784 02:07:20.960 --> 02:07:22.640 There's this one dude that was saying a lot of 2785 02:07:22.720 --> 02:07:25.000 really powerful shit and he got people on their side. 2786 02:07:25.039 --> 02:07:27.439 Next thing, you know, we have an entire occult following 2787 02:07:27.520 --> 02:07:29.840 and they're trying to take over the world. Right, Okay, 2788 02:07:30.359 --> 02:07:32.520 in the end times, we're gonna have one world government, 2789 02:07:32.720 --> 02:07:37.159 one world currency, one world religion. What do y'all think now, 2790 02:07:37.399 --> 02:07:39.800 For the longest time, humans have thought that that meant 2791 02:07:40.159 --> 02:07:42.800 nuclear war and from the ashes there's gonna be a 2792 02:07:42.840 --> 02:07:44.760 slave and a master type of dynamic or they thought 2793 02:07:44.800 --> 02:07:47.399 it something along those lines. But is it crazy to 2794 02:07:47.479 --> 02:07:51.039 think that some at least letting us believe that they 2795 02:07:51.079 --> 02:07:55.479 are aliens comes down, sets up themselves to be the 2796 02:07:55.600 --> 02:08:00.199 hierarchy here gives us technology. Now all countries answer to them. 2797 02:08:00.560 --> 02:08:03.640 We no longer have borders because it's no longer our land. 2798 02:08:03.760 --> 02:08:06.680 We are completely under them here because without them, we 2799 02:08:06.680 --> 02:08:09.079 wouldn't be doing anything we're doing. Cut to a couple 2800 02:08:09.119 --> 02:08:12.399 of decades down the road. We only are accepting alien dollars. 2801 02:08:12.439 --> 02:08:15.039 We're only speaking alien language. We're only talking about the 2802 02:08:15.119 --> 02:08:18.279 alien holidays because American culture is so antiquated. Dude, are 2803 02:08:18.319 --> 02:08:18.680 you kidding? 2804 02:08:18.760 --> 02:08:19.079 Jacob? 2805 02:08:19.520 --> 02:08:21.600 Let me talk in the Red, White, and Blue bro 2806 02:08:21.880 --> 02:08:23.479 caw Is twenty twenty two. 2807 02:08:23.840 --> 02:08:27.680 Geez. So here's what web bot predicts about sci Fi World, 2808 02:08:27.720 --> 02:08:31.359 because you just basically read my show notes here. Number one, 2809 02:08:31.800 --> 02:08:35.199 the introdution, the introduction of zero point energy. This is 2810 02:08:35.439 --> 02:08:37.920 it's not a prediction, this is just what So again, 2811 02:08:38.279 --> 02:08:42.359 it predicts Donald Trump, pivotal moment, Melee and the Skies 2812 02:08:42.640 --> 02:08:46.600 introducing sci fi World. Sci Fi World entails introduction of 2813 02:08:46.720 --> 02:08:50.439 zero point energy, an intergalactic network. So the concept it's 2814 02:08:50.439 --> 02:08:53.279 like a concept of a cosmic web or the Akashik records. 2815 02:08:53.359 --> 02:08:55.640 Have you ever hearch is the galactic Federation of Light. 2816 02:08:56.159 --> 02:08:57.920 Yeah, this shit, this s gay shit. This is what 2817 02:08:58.039 --> 02:09:02.439 it's introducing, and most importantly, the revival of an ancient, 2818 02:09:02.640 --> 02:09:04.920 ancient language. And it goes as far as to deduce 2819 02:09:04.960 --> 02:09:06.760 that the name of the language is going to be 2820 02:09:07.359 --> 02:09:09.960 Hurrian or something like it, which is a near Near 2821 02:09:10.039 --> 02:09:13.760 Eastern language that's tied to metaphysical understanding. It's modern day Turkey. 2822 02:09:13.680 --> 02:09:17.560 If you look at in a Nocchian But yeah, it's 2823 02:09:17.600 --> 02:09:20.039 if you look at it up, it's on like uniform tablets. 2824 02:09:20.079 --> 02:09:22.399 It's like that old kind of a deal. But yeah, 2825 02:09:22.439 --> 02:09:25.439 I mean that's just to me, it feels like that's 2826 02:09:25.479 --> 02:09:27.159 right on the horizon. And you know what's interesting, It's 2827 02:09:27.159 --> 02:09:29.000 like I just listed all these people, right, Alice Bailey 2828 02:09:29.079 --> 02:09:32.159 and Helena Blovotsky and Donald Trump is saying we're going 2829 02:09:32.199 --> 02:09:34.239 towards a golden age, and all these people are predicting 2830 02:09:34.279 --> 02:09:36.119 something for the year twenty twenty five. It doesn't matter 2831 02:09:36.199 --> 02:09:39.640 where you come from. If it's Christian, or it's narcissism, 2832 02:09:39.880 --> 02:09:43.399 or it's you know, some other form of everything is 2833 02:09:43.479 --> 02:09:47.000 kind of pointing to like this moment as being something 2834 02:09:47.079 --> 02:09:49.840 really significant. And I recognize that I've I've been a 2835 02:09:49.880 --> 02:09:51.920 conspiracy theorists for a long time. There are certain moments 2836 02:09:52.199 --> 02:09:54.800 coming past everybody drink. I've been since I was sixteen 2837 02:09:54.880 --> 02:09:57.800 years old. There are certain moments that come in past, right, 2838 02:09:57.880 --> 02:09:59.439 Like twenty twelve was a big one. We were all 2839 02:09:59.520 --> 02:10:01.640 kind of hype focused in on that, or like the 2840 02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:06.279 Y two K scandal, there's, yeah, twenty But there's something 2841 02:10:06.319 --> 02:10:11.039 about this moment where, like it's not just chatter on 2842 02:10:11.119 --> 02:10:15.399 the Internet, it's like historical you know, people in the 2843 02:10:15.520 --> 02:10:19.560 no mystics throughout time all pointing to this one moment, 2844 02:10:19.680 --> 02:10:21.239 and not only pointing to this one moment, but they're 2845 02:10:21.279 --> 02:10:25.680 all saying something very similar about aliens, potentially aliens, the 2846 02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:29.520 return of Christ, this Golden Age, the age of Aquarius. 2847 02:10:29.640 --> 02:10:33.079 Like this is it's a very pivotalle something very pevotal 2848 02:10:33.319 --> 02:10:33.920 moment there. 2849 02:10:34.640 --> 02:10:36.600 Yes, And that's the other thing too, Yeah, the Caliyuga, 2850 02:10:36.640 --> 02:10:38.399 which by the way, is supposed to end by fire. 2851 02:10:38.479 --> 02:10:40.800 It's a spiritual and intellectual low point that we're in. 2852 02:10:41.279 --> 02:10:44.039 Yuga just means age Collie is a vaded god, but 2853 02:10:45.760 --> 02:10:47.920 it ends by fire, which is interesting because in the 2854 02:10:47.920 --> 02:10:49.800 Bible it says that when God judges the world, it 2855 02:10:49.800 --> 02:10:52.079 won't be by water again, he promised not to do 2856 02:10:52.199 --> 02:10:54.239 that next time, it will be by fire. So I 2857 02:10:54.319 --> 02:10:56.520 think a lot of these things are all pointing to 2858 02:10:56.680 --> 02:11:01.600 the same exact moment. But once again, it's like the 2859 02:11:02.079 --> 02:11:04.720 nature of the moment is the most important thing. We're 2860 02:11:04.760 --> 02:11:07.199 going to go through something, and depending on what your 2861 02:11:07.239 --> 02:11:09.760 point of view is, it will vindicate your beliefs. That's 2862 02:11:09.760 --> 02:11:11.880 what's really fascinating about this time that we're in. It 2863 02:11:11.960 --> 02:11:15.680 has this ability to vindicate your beliefs if you are 2864 02:11:15.840 --> 02:11:19.279 well read enough, because I think a lot of casual 2865 02:11:19.399 --> 02:11:21.479 Christians are going to fall away, a lot of them. 2866 02:11:21.520 --> 02:11:23.680 A lot of casual Muslims are going to fall away 2867 02:11:23.680 --> 02:11:27.319 because they don't have you know, we have extra canonical 2868 02:11:27.399 --> 02:11:31.039 texts that give us all this extra potentiality. It's not 2869 02:11:31.119 --> 02:11:33.159 something that you should put all your stock in, but 2870 02:11:33.239 --> 02:11:35.479 it does give you a lot of interesting things that 2871 02:11:35.560 --> 02:11:38.720 you On my viewpoint as a Christian, which is a 2872 02:11:38.880 --> 02:11:41.119 non religious Christian, I don't go to church. I think 2873 02:11:41.159 --> 02:11:42.760 that the church has dropped the ball in many ways. 2874 02:11:43.199 --> 02:11:46.000 I don't feel uncomfortable with this at all. We were 2875 02:11:46.039 --> 02:11:50.880 able to see this coming and it never jived or 2876 02:11:51.279 --> 02:11:54.119 fucked up anything that I suspected was true. 2877 02:11:54.279 --> 02:11:56.960 It all kind of goes along. So I think this 2878 02:11:57.039 --> 02:11:59.319 will be the truth for a lot of people. The 2879 02:11:59.439 --> 02:12:01.800 only thing is is the nature of it. 2880 02:12:03.039 --> 02:12:05.680 Well, there's only one truth, right, There's like there's ultimately 2881 02:12:05.800 --> 02:12:07.760 this is not like a postmodern idea. 2882 02:12:07.800 --> 02:12:10.880 That's why so many people disagree with you, bro that 2883 02:12:10.960 --> 02:12:15.399 there's not just one truth. I mean, it's well, the problem. 2884 02:12:15.199 --> 02:12:17.720 Is is there's not just one truth. If you think 2885 02:12:17.800 --> 02:12:20.520 that things that rhyme with the truth are the truth. 2886 02:12:20.439 --> 02:12:22.720 Yeah, something is more true than than the other though. 2887 02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:25.720 I so, yeah, these things can be true, and I'll 2888 02:12:25.800 --> 02:12:28.800 grant people this all day long, but there's one thing 2889 02:12:28.840 --> 02:12:30.600 that is more true than the other. And we're at 2890 02:12:31.399 --> 02:12:33.439 We've been scraping and searching for that thing. I think 2891 02:12:33.520 --> 02:12:36.319 we found it. Some people disagree, and that's fine, but 2892 02:12:36.399 --> 02:12:38.720 we're I'm still continuing to look, and the more we 2893 02:12:38.880 --> 02:12:42.439 continue to look, the closer I get to what I 2894 02:12:42.800 --> 02:12:44.680 think is the truth. And that just happens to be God. 2895 02:12:44.800 --> 02:12:46.319 So that's like that's where this is leading me. 2896 02:12:46.560 --> 02:12:49.840 Right, But those ultimate truth though, because like two fighters 2897 02:12:50.000 --> 02:12:52.840 enter the ring believing they are the champion, there is 2898 02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:55.159 going to be one of them that is more true 2899 02:12:55.560 --> 02:12:56.159 than the other. 2900 02:12:56.359 --> 02:12:58.439 And I'm sorry that that doesn't feel right. 2901 02:12:58.560 --> 02:13:02.359 But up until up and till that point, everybody, it 2902 02:13:02.600 --> 02:13:05.720 is all just belief, and there is no way of 2903 02:13:05.960 --> 02:13:09.439 absolutely knowing, Like there's faith, there's belief, right, Like you 2904 02:13:09.520 --> 02:13:13.239 can put your faith in your belief into certain religious 2905 02:13:13.319 --> 02:13:16.319 understandings and philosophies and stuff like that, but it is 2906 02:13:16.720 --> 02:13:20.479 you have to understand, like there's a difference between having 2907 02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:23.880 faith and like almost seeing it as absolutely real. Like 2908 02:13:24.039 --> 02:13:26.199 I understand the concept of faith. I have faith and 2909 02:13:26.199 --> 02:13:28.960 a lot of shit, but like there is a concept 2910 02:13:29.039 --> 02:13:31.880 of faith that almost allows you to believe that it 2911 02:13:32.039 --> 02:13:35.800 actually is real until something else happens that then you 2912 02:13:35.880 --> 02:13:39.199 might change your faith. But I think that faith faith 2913 02:13:39.319 --> 02:13:44.079 in fact, they don't always coincide, you know what I'm saying, Like. 2914 02:13:44.159 --> 02:13:47.319 Find facts, you should change your faith, you should you 2915 02:13:47.359 --> 02:13:49.680 should adjust your belief based off of things that you 2916 02:13:49.800 --> 02:13:51.439 find along the way, which. 2917 02:13:51.319 --> 02:13:54.399 By the way, to that point, like I said, I've 2918 02:13:54.439 --> 02:13:56.359 been doing this for a long time. I was not 2919 02:13:56.560 --> 02:14:01.039 religious at all. I wasn't raised religious. I wasn't introduced 2920 02:14:01.039 --> 02:14:03.800 to Christianity as a child. Thereby I had no baggage. 2921 02:14:03.800 --> 02:14:05.800 I was kicked out of the last church that I 2922 02:14:05.920 --> 02:14:08.600 went to for my backstory, but go ahead, Dave Sollow. 2923 02:14:08.760 --> 02:14:10.840 Well, I was just saying that when I got to 2924 02:14:11.880 --> 02:14:15.520 probably about thirty years old, I had an experience like 2925 02:14:15.560 --> 02:14:18.479 a spiritual one, as a very negative one, but it 2926 02:14:19.199 --> 02:14:22.800 allowed me, or rather it didn't allow me to suspect 2927 02:14:23.640 --> 02:14:26.000 that the spiritual realm was real. I was concrete in 2928 02:14:26.119 --> 02:14:29.840 that I was made definitively aware that there are entities. 2929 02:14:30.680 --> 02:14:33.880 And then what that did and said, if there's one 2930 02:14:33.920 --> 02:14:37.279 side of the coin that is these negative entities, then 2931 02:14:37.680 --> 02:14:40.399 maybe the other side of the coin is these positive entities. 2932 02:14:40.600 --> 02:14:44.399 And the way that I got this to go away 2933 02:14:46.279 --> 02:14:47.479 was by calling on Christ. 2934 02:14:47.760 --> 02:14:51.279 And so I understand that within the gnostic not even 2935 02:14:51.319 --> 02:14:56.760 necessarily gnostic, but occult studies, this idea of an aggregor exists, 2936 02:14:56.800 --> 02:14:58.239 the idea that you could put so much faith in 2937 02:14:58.319 --> 02:15:00.920 something that it could defend you potentially from these other 2938 02:15:01.000 --> 02:15:03.680 things that seemingly exist but. 2939 02:15:03.800 --> 02:15:06.279 Aren't independent of your own fear of awareness. 2940 02:15:07.279 --> 02:15:08.800 I do think that there's a lot of truth to that, 2941 02:15:09.039 --> 02:15:13.159 but there are really important details that need to be examined. 2942 02:15:13.159 --> 02:15:17.199 And so what happened is I wouldn't allow myself to 2943 02:15:17.840 --> 02:15:24.319 treat Jesus Christ as not a real man. And because 2944 02:15:24.359 --> 02:15:27.800 of that, I felt indebted to him for having saved 2945 02:15:27.880 --> 02:15:31.199 me and my family from this experience. And that created 2946 02:15:31.239 --> 02:15:34.439 a sort of a loyalty in me where I decided 2947 02:15:34.520 --> 02:15:37.119 to as as somebody who's been doing this. The Bible's 2948 02:15:37.119 --> 02:15:40.039 always been there, but I've not really given it the 2949 02:15:40.199 --> 02:15:43.079 do that it deserves. And honestly, for me, for my 2950 02:15:43.199 --> 02:15:45.920 half of Nephluin Death Squad, you are watching me in 2951 02:15:46.119 --> 02:15:48.840 real time, give the Bible it's due, to give it 2952 02:15:48.840 --> 02:15:52.640 a fair look with no bias, no cultural loaded shit 2953 02:15:52.720 --> 02:15:53.279 where I'm like. 2954 02:15:53.720 --> 02:15:56.880 Oh, you know, Christianity is this, or Christianity is that. 2955 02:15:57.319 --> 02:16:00.479 I recognize that here in America you can get on stage, 2956 02:16:00.520 --> 02:16:02.399 put a mic in your hand and dunk on Jesus 2957 02:16:02.520 --> 02:16:05.600 Christ to the sound of a round of applause. So 2958 02:16:06.000 --> 02:16:08.880 I recognize I don't need to do any ridiculing here 2959 02:16:09.239 --> 02:16:11.399 that's already been done. Let me just look at this 2960 02:16:11.560 --> 02:16:13.560 thing as I would look at any other information. And 2961 02:16:14.039 --> 02:16:16.920 starting at thirty years old, for the past four years now, 2962 02:16:17.279 --> 02:16:20.199 it's just been vindication after vindication after vindication. And what's 2963 02:16:20.279 --> 02:16:24.319 crazy is all my previous years of being a conspiracy theorist. 2964 02:16:24.399 --> 02:16:25.680 Play in perfectly. 2965 02:16:26.159 --> 02:16:31.239 Yes, there is these concerns do get addressed, these weird 2966 02:16:31.319 --> 02:16:36.360 spiritual principles, all this occulted information. It is addressed if 2967 02:16:36.399 --> 02:16:39.559 you don't look at it in the very gay, truncated 2968 02:16:39.760 --> 02:16:41.719 version that you get from the church where it's just 2969 02:16:41.840 --> 02:16:44.840 like be as Jesus and pay your tithes and show 2970 02:16:44.920 --> 02:16:47.280 up on Sunday and be a good Christian. That is 2971 02:16:47.360 --> 02:16:49.760 not at all what I do. And so I have 2972 02:16:49.920 --> 02:16:52.159 found that it's very much like a key, like you 2973 02:16:52.159 --> 02:16:54.879 would have a legend, and that legend allows you to 2974 02:16:55.000 --> 02:16:59.879 understand a map. This is so integral to understanding all 2975 02:17:00.000 --> 02:17:02.239 all the conspiracies and all the spiritual shit that we 2976 02:17:02.319 --> 02:17:04.440 go through. And I just want to say, for a dismount, 2977 02:17:05.239 --> 02:17:07.520 there are a lot of things that you learn within narcissism, 2978 02:17:07.639 --> 02:17:11.000 within the different occult aspects. And you're researching this person 2979 02:17:11.079 --> 02:17:13.760 and Alice Bailey and Alister Crawley and all these different things, 2980 02:17:14.159 --> 02:17:17.239 and you don't have to throw that away. You'll find 2981 02:17:17.399 --> 02:17:20.159 that it actually plays very well with what the Bible 2982 02:17:20.239 --> 02:17:23.040 says and that you can start to flesh out a 2983 02:17:23.159 --> 02:17:27.600 much larger picture, where where previously I had chunks of 2984 02:17:27.719 --> 02:17:30.440 the puzzle that were no longer, that weren't connected to 2985 02:17:30.520 --> 02:17:33.239 each other. Yet, the Bible was that connective tissue. It 2986 02:17:33.319 --> 02:17:36.319 brought all of it together. I was not a lifelong Christian. 2987 02:17:36.479 --> 02:17:40.479 I was a lifelong conspiracy theorist. That's totally different, and 2988 02:17:41.159 --> 02:17:43.200 I still am. I didn't have to throw anything away. 2989 02:17:44.520 --> 02:17:47.040 Hey, I can appreciate that. I mean, I'm not a Christian, 2990 02:17:47.239 --> 02:17:50.120 but I can appreciate, like I understand that there is 2991 02:17:50.239 --> 02:17:52.520 a lot to be had, Like there's a lot to 2992 02:17:52.639 --> 02:17:55.399 gain from devoting your life to Jesus, Like you see 2993 02:17:55.440 --> 02:17:57.799 it all throughout. How many different testimonies do you need 2994 02:17:57.840 --> 02:18:00.879 to hear? Like it absolutely changes peace people's lives whenever 2995 02:18:00.920 --> 02:18:04.520 you completely, you know, devote yourself to something like that. 2996 02:18:04.760 --> 02:18:05.600 And and so I don't. 2997 02:18:06.000 --> 02:18:08.559 I never, you know, I never try to dunk on 2998 02:18:08.719 --> 02:18:11.200 Christianity or anything like that. I mean, you know, I 2999 02:18:11.559 --> 02:18:13.280 fuck with Jacob from time to time with it, but 3000 02:18:13.360 --> 02:18:16.680 it's all in good love territory, you know. But I'm 3001 02:18:16.719 --> 02:18:18.600 happy that you found that, dude. I'm happy that you're 3002 02:18:18.600 --> 02:18:20.959 looking at it, and and it does really all play 3003 02:18:21.000 --> 02:18:22.840 into it. I'm happy, you know, you brought in the 3004 02:18:22.879 --> 02:18:25.879 gnosticism and the the occult and all that stuff, and 3005 02:18:25.959 --> 02:18:27.840 you're really just looking at it for what it is. 3006 02:18:27.959 --> 02:18:30.559 Because there are different perspectives that view the world in 3007 02:18:30.719 --> 02:18:34.360 very different ways. And if you're just a Christian and 3008 02:18:34.479 --> 02:18:38.000 you can't you know, compare and contrast a little bit 3009 02:18:38.079 --> 02:18:40.799 with other people's beliefs, then you're really only ever going 3010 02:18:40.879 --> 02:18:43.840 to have one perspective. And that one perspective might get 3011 02:18:43.920 --> 02:18:46.239 you to the end zone, but it's going to be 3012 02:18:46.360 --> 02:18:48.399 You're gonna be fumbling and bumbling, you know, just like 3013 02:18:48.479 --> 02:18:50.200 fucking John Madden was saying the whole way. 3014 02:18:51.239 --> 02:18:54.000 And it's good to really like know the enemy. 3015 02:18:54.040 --> 02:18:56.120 If you believe that all the Gnostics and all the 3016 02:18:56.159 --> 02:18:59.120 occults and all the witchcraft and all the say you know, 3017 02:18:59.239 --> 02:19:02.959 the Satanic and LUCIFERI and all that shit, if you yeah, 3018 02:19:03.040 --> 02:19:05.079 I think that it could it could work. 3019 02:19:05.399 --> 02:19:06.639 And so I get it. 3020 02:19:07.200 --> 02:19:10.120 This is going to be a total retards version of 3021 02:19:10.520 --> 02:19:11.879 what I'm about to say, but it's the only one 3022 02:19:11.920 --> 02:19:15.639 I have to offer. It's almost like Jesus Christ was 3023 02:19:16.319 --> 02:19:18.399 wiping the slate clean. It was like a cheat code 3024 02:19:18.799 --> 02:19:23.280 it was like, so these entities, ourselves and these other 3025 02:19:23.360 --> 02:19:27.639 things we have free will, they integrated with us. They fell, 3026 02:19:28.280 --> 02:19:32.040 and the world became incredibly messy. And there might have 3027 02:19:32.079 --> 02:19:34.360 even been a time in the past where these studies 3028 02:19:34.559 --> 02:19:36.479 of certain things is you know how now Christians would 3029 02:19:36.479 --> 02:19:38.760 be like, don't look at astrology, don't look at numerology, 3030 02:19:38.760 --> 02:19:39.479 don't look at these things. 3031 02:19:39.520 --> 02:19:43.000 They're of the devil. I don't think that's true. 3032 02:19:43.600 --> 02:19:44.799 I think it might be. 3033 02:19:45.159 --> 02:19:47.959 Sure there's a Satanic cult that's following a certain star 3034 02:19:48.120 --> 02:19:48.840 for a certain reason. 3035 02:19:48.959 --> 02:19:50.840 Sure, fine, right, right, But what I'm saying is that 3036 02:19:51.000 --> 02:19:53.079 they don't have the ability to create. They only have 3037 02:19:53.159 --> 02:19:55.840 the ability to invert. And I think what's happened is 3038 02:19:56.280 --> 02:19:59.719 they have inverted and perverted all of these systems that 3039 02:19:59.799 --> 02:20:01.760 we would call magic if we got a good look 3040 02:20:01.799 --> 02:20:04.719 at them. And they've been around forever, and we probably 3041 02:20:04.840 --> 02:20:08.319 used to use them to a large degree. Everything got 3042 02:20:08.879 --> 02:20:13.559 incredibly messy. And the Amish see electricity as witchcraft. 3043 02:20:16.239 --> 02:20:16.440 It is. 3044 02:20:16.639 --> 02:20:18.280 And we just did a story on we just did 3045 02:20:18.319 --> 02:20:21.520 an episode on on the Mormons, and you know, they're 3046 02:20:21.520 --> 02:20:24.120 basically like, it's like Christian mysticism, not the Mormons. 3047 02:20:24.120 --> 02:20:26.079 I'm sorry the Latter day Saints. Is that the same thing. 3048 02:20:26.159 --> 02:20:29.680 Yeah, So in many ways they're they're dealing with like 3049 02:20:29.719 --> 02:20:31.680 they're dealing with the Philosopher's Stone and all this other 3050 02:20:31.760 --> 02:20:32.399 crazy they're. 3051 02:20:32.200 --> 02:20:35.159 Like, now, Christian fanfic that went way to far. 3052 02:20:35.360 --> 02:20:40.280 Well, you know, I do think that I think a 3053 02:20:40.319 --> 02:20:44.600 lot of these things do exist, but we're retarded, Like 3054 02:20:45.000 --> 02:20:48.520 human beings are so fucking retarded. And I think that 3055 02:20:48.719 --> 02:20:52.280 Jesus Christ was a simplification. It's like, look, the path 3056 02:20:52.399 --> 02:20:55.159 to heaven, the path to getting back into God's good graces, 3057 02:20:55.200 --> 02:20:59.040 has become so convoluted and so messy. We were given 3058 02:20:59.360 --> 02:21:02.079 this one clear cut path. Believe that he came and 3059 02:21:02.159 --> 02:21:03.959 he died for your sins, and he is the way 3060 02:21:04.000 --> 02:21:04.479 to the Father. 3061 02:21:04.680 --> 02:21:04.959 That's it. 3062 02:21:05.079 --> 02:21:06.879 It's actually it's actually quite comical. Like if you do 3063 02:21:07.000 --> 02:21:09.399 read the Bible through the Old Testament, it's like God's 3064 02:21:09.440 --> 02:21:11.680 like a god, these people retarded. I gotta kick him out. 3065 02:21:11.719 --> 02:21:13.000 And then he's like, well, I'll just give you, like 3066 02:21:13.120 --> 02:21:14.879 here here's some guidance, and they're like, nah, you fuck 3067 02:21:14.920 --> 02:21:17.760 that up. Here's here's some rules. You fuck that up. 3068 02:21:17.840 --> 02:21:20.079 I put him on stone. You got it wrong again. 3069 02:21:20.159 --> 02:21:22.360 Here's the book of Deuteronomy got it wrong, and then 3070 02:21:22.440 --> 02:21:24.120 you're like, you know what, I'm just gonna really boil 3071 02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:25.920 this down for you, like my son, he's got to die. 3072 02:21:26.000 --> 02:21:29.440 That's how dumb you are and super simple, like real shit. 3073 02:21:29.680 --> 02:21:31.719 And it wasn't just the Jews, although yeah, the story 3074 02:21:31.760 --> 02:21:34.319 center around them, but like equate that to any group 3075 02:21:34.399 --> 02:21:37.079 of humans ever. If they get hooked up and they 3076 02:21:37.159 --> 02:21:40.159 get really wealthy, really powerful, whatever, they make it fuck 3077 02:21:40.239 --> 02:21:43.440 up and they crumble. Every civilization has gone up, up, up, 3078 02:21:43.559 --> 02:21:44.559 fucked up? How did you wrong? 3079 02:21:45.159 --> 02:21:45.399 Put you? 3080 02:21:45.600 --> 02:21:47.440 You don't put your faith in man because it's what 3081 02:21:47.600 --> 02:21:50.079 we do over and over again. So I do think that, 3082 02:21:50.280 --> 02:21:52.559 like you don't have to throw out all this stuff. 3083 02:21:52.600 --> 02:21:52.879 I don't. 3084 02:21:52.920 --> 02:21:54.399 I don't agree in practicing it. 3085 02:21:54.479 --> 02:21:57.760 But it's like you think that, uh, Pythagoras, when he 3086 02:21:57.840 --> 02:21:59.959 came to the idea that like this entire realm could 3087 02:22:00.120 --> 02:22:04.120 boiled down to numbers, that that was nonsense. I don't 3088 02:22:04.120 --> 02:22:06.159 think it's nonsense. I also don't think it's indicative of 3089 02:22:06.280 --> 02:22:09.280 like simulation theory either. Simulation theory pisses me off because 3090 02:22:09.319 --> 02:22:12.040 it's like, oh, because of our limited ability to create 3091 02:22:12.159 --> 02:22:14.479 games like Fortnite, we can recognize that the way in 3092 02:22:14.559 --> 02:22:18.520 which we manipulate code almost mirrors itself in this realm 3093 02:22:18.559 --> 02:22:22.440 that we inhabit thereby in our like this grand video game. Yeah, 3094 02:22:22.639 --> 02:22:25.360 in our grand understanding of things, this must be just 3095 02:22:25.520 --> 02:22:27.600 like Fortnite. This must be a simulation. So you mean 3096 02:22:27.639 --> 02:22:29.879 to tell me that this realm was created and that 3097 02:22:30.319 --> 02:22:34.399 that insinuates as there's a creator. No, shit, that's been 3098 02:22:34.479 --> 02:22:36.879 what Christianity is telling you for the longest time. That 3099 02:22:37.000 --> 02:22:39.360 this is not the last place that we're going to be. 3100 02:22:39.479 --> 02:22:42.239 There is something beyond this, and this realm seems to 3101 02:22:42.280 --> 02:22:44.600 be I would agree with people who suggest it's like 3102 02:22:44.639 --> 02:22:48.120 a it's like a proving ground. You know, we're here 3103 02:22:48.280 --> 02:22:52.360 to suss things out, to develop, to make decisions, to 3104 02:22:52.440 --> 02:22:54.639 have the free will to make decisions. I don't think 3105 02:22:54.680 --> 02:22:57.920 that when we die, we experience like ego death and 3106 02:22:58.079 --> 02:23:00.440 we return to a central consciousness. I don't think that 3107 02:23:00.559 --> 02:23:04.040 God gave us the diversity that we have from one 3108 02:23:04.120 --> 02:23:06.520 person to another. I think we retain a lot of 3109 02:23:06.600 --> 02:23:08.360 who we are and we go to some other place 3110 02:23:08.399 --> 02:23:11.840 and we still proceed as individuals. But to reduce it 3111 02:23:12.360 --> 02:23:14.879 to something that resembles grant that thought, oh five, because 3112 02:23:14.920 --> 02:23:16.559 we can make grant that thought O. Five is like, 3113 02:23:16.879 --> 02:23:20.719 it's just limited human beings using limited language once again 3114 02:23:21.120 --> 02:23:24.319 to describe something that's above and beyond. But simulation theory 3115 02:23:24.399 --> 02:23:26.760 gives you the air of arrogance, of intellectual you know, 3116 02:23:27.639 --> 02:23:30.040 achievement that you figured it all out. It's like, no, dude, 3117 02:23:30.399 --> 02:23:31.360 that's reductive. 3118 02:23:31.479 --> 02:23:35.040 You could actually say, but you see the number sequences 3119 02:23:35.280 --> 02:23:37.639 you still I'm not saying that's wrong. 3120 02:23:37.799 --> 02:23:41.239 I'm just saying that to call it simulation theory sounds 3121 02:23:41.360 --> 02:23:42.120 so reductive. 3122 02:23:42.639 --> 02:23:44.799 It is. It is, though, because it is all frequency 3123 02:23:44.879 --> 02:23:47.600 and vibration. I mean, like this this desk is vibrating 3124 02:23:47.600 --> 02:23:49.760 at a certain frequency in order for it to become solid. 3125 02:23:49.799 --> 02:23:52.479 So this is like numbers attached to this. But it's 3126 02:23:52.600 --> 02:23:55.079 so like he's saying, to deduce it, like to reduce 3127 02:23:55.120 --> 02:23:57.360 it down to a video game is ridiculous. There's a creator. 3128 02:23:57.399 --> 02:23:59.159 There is a pattern to how shit is made. 3129 02:23:59.239 --> 02:24:02.280 And I think it's like if the Bible attributes a 3130 02:24:02.319 --> 02:24:05.040 personality set to God and says that God created this 3131 02:24:05.319 --> 02:24:07.840 entire thing and created us and this is why we're 3132 02:24:07.840 --> 02:24:09.559 here in YadA YadA, YadA, and you look at that 3133 02:24:09.639 --> 02:24:11.879 and you go, no, very gay, And then you look 3134 02:24:11.920 --> 02:24:15.040 over to simulation serie that says the same thing out 3135 02:24:15.040 --> 02:24:17.440 of Stephen Hawking's mouth, and you're like, that is the way, 3136 02:24:17.600 --> 02:24:19.920 you know, And it's like, we still don't have a 3137 02:24:19.959 --> 02:24:22.280 grasp on it. But it's funny because that story has 3138 02:24:22.280 --> 02:24:24.280 already been told for a long time and we just 3139 02:24:24.479 --> 02:24:25.120 reinvent shit. 3140 02:24:25.159 --> 02:24:26.280 There's nothing new under the sun? 3141 02:24:26.680 --> 02:24:28.840 Can I we name it something different and then we 3142 02:24:28.959 --> 02:24:32.959 claim intellectual superiority, you know, having identified it, it's fucking retarded. 3143 02:24:33.079 --> 02:24:34.280 Can I ask y'all something have? 3144 02:24:34.520 --> 02:24:37.799 Have y'all ever worked at like a like a local restaurant, 3145 02:24:37.920 --> 02:24:39.920 not like a big chain, but like a local restaurant, 3146 02:24:39.920 --> 02:24:43.479 a local store, anything that was local that had like 3147 02:24:43.559 --> 02:24:46.120 an owner and then a general manager and then you know, 3148 02:24:46.200 --> 02:24:50.000 assistant managers and shit like that. Right, Well I did. 3149 02:24:50.079 --> 02:24:52.079 I worked at this place called Rittolo's and it was 3150 02:24:52.159 --> 02:24:54.159 in Prairieville. They had a couple of other stores, but 3151 02:24:54.239 --> 02:24:57.280 it's mainly like a Louisiana pizza shop, right and. 3152 02:24:58.840 --> 02:25:00.239 Right right, and every so. 3153 02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:02.760 Often, I mean once in a blue moon, maybe once 3154 02:25:02.840 --> 02:25:05.319 a year, you would see the owner come in and 3155 02:25:05.680 --> 02:25:07.600 basically it was just there to lay down the law, 3156 02:25:07.760 --> 02:25:09.680 like he didn't really appreciate all the good things you 3157 02:25:09.719 --> 02:25:12.399 were doing, but he would jump your ass if you 3158 02:25:12.520 --> 02:25:14.520 were doing something wrong, and it was kind of like, 3159 02:25:15.000 --> 02:25:17.639 you know, it was like you grew to not like 3160 02:25:17.760 --> 02:25:20.239 that person, so you you were you always. You would 3161 02:25:20.239 --> 02:25:22.159 always keep in your mind, like God, I hope that 3162 02:25:22.239 --> 02:25:24.399 I'm not here the day he comes back, you know. 3163 02:25:24.959 --> 02:25:27.360 And but then you had your general managers and your 3164 02:25:27.399 --> 02:25:29.799 assistant managers in your front of house and your back 3165 02:25:29.879 --> 02:25:31.799 of house like leads and stuff like that. Then you 3166 02:25:31.920 --> 02:25:34.920 just had the regular employees. And I feel like, just 3167 02:25:35.040 --> 02:25:40.079 me personally, I feel like how religious people view the 3168 02:25:40.200 --> 02:25:43.639 creator or God is kind of that owner that really 3169 02:25:43.719 --> 02:25:47.360 only comes by every so often, and really whenever he 3170 02:25:47.520 --> 02:25:49.719 comes around, it's it's kind of like you don't want 3171 02:25:49.760 --> 02:25:51.680 to see that because then it's probably the end of 3172 02:25:51.719 --> 02:25:53.280 the world and it's gonna be starting all over again. 3173 02:25:53.280 --> 02:25:55.760 It's gonna be bringing her some kind of disease or 3174 02:25:55.799 --> 02:25:57.799 great flood, or he's gonna kill a lot of people 3175 02:25:57.920 --> 02:25:59.959 because you shouldn't have been doing it this kind of way. 3176 02:26:00.479 --> 02:26:03.360 And I feel like that that's not necessarily correct. I 3177 02:26:03.440 --> 02:26:05.680 don't want to I'm I don't agree with that. What 3178 02:26:05.760 --> 02:26:07.879 I'm saying is that. I think that some people look 3179 02:26:07.920 --> 02:26:11.440 at it like that, that there is some kind of overall, 3180 02:26:11.680 --> 02:26:15.479 overarching kind of person that created this thing that is 3181 02:26:15.639 --> 02:26:18.479 kind of in control but not really around very often. 3182 02:26:18.920 --> 02:26:21.520 But then you know, you get into certain scripture and everything, 3183 02:26:21.600 --> 02:26:23.600 and it says that, you know, God is the alpha 3184 02:26:23.680 --> 02:26:26.559 in the omega, He's the beginning, he's the end, He's 3185 02:26:26.840 --> 02:26:31.239 the omnipotent, omnipresent literally always around whatever you look at, 3186 02:26:31.360 --> 02:26:35.239 whatever you see around you, also within you is God. Right, 3187 02:26:35.399 --> 02:26:39.159 So it's not necessarily that owner that is only sometimes around. 3188 02:26:39.479 --> 02:26:43.079 It's that literally, everything you see around here is God's creation. 3189 02:26:43.479 --> 02:26:46.440 There is nothing that has ever existed that isn't God's creation. 3190 02:26:46.520 --> 02:26:48.159 Can we agree on that, sure? 3191 02:26:49.079 --> 02:26:49.280 Yep. 3192 02:26:49.680 --> 02:26:54.079 So why is it that we are trying to I 3193 02:26:54.079 --> 02:26:54.360 don't know. 3194 02:26:54.440 --> 02:26:57.360 I just I question a lot of the understandings of 3195 02:26:57.520 --> 02:27:00.239 God in saying that, like, oh, well, you know, he 3196 02:27:00.399 --> 02:27:02.440 created us this way and then he had to kill 3197 02:27:02.479 --> 02:27:04.280 his son, and he tried to he tried to, you know, 3198 02:27:04.399 --> 02:27:05.920 tell you on the tablets, he tried to tell you 3199 02:27:06.000 --> 02:27:08.719 through certain scripture, and you couldn't get it. Well, I mean, 3200 02:27:08.959 --> 02:27:11.399 whose fault is it that were retarded in the first place? 3201 02:27:11.799 --> 02:27:11.959 Right? 3202 02:27:12.079 --> 02:27:15.000 Like, whose fault is it that, like we couldn't get 3203 02:27:15.040 --> 02:27:16.680 it and that we had to go through all these 3204 02:27:16.719 --> 02:27:20.760 things in the first place. Satan, That's Satan's fault. But 3205 02:27:21.120 --> 02:27:26.280 also hold on, hold on, if God created everything, kind 3206 02:27:26.280 --> 02:27:28.479 of created Satan too. And also I do want to 3207 02:27:28.479 --> 02:27:30.000 point this out too, And I'm not chitting on the 3208 02:27:30.079 --> 02:27:31.959 religion or anything. I'm just trying to show the different 3209 02:27:32.000 --> 02:27:36.840 perspective here, the idea that demons could exist and Satan exists, 3210 02:27:36.879 --> 02:27:40.399 and all these like very fucked up like biblical beings 3211 02:27:40.520 --> 02:27:42.239 or titles or whatever you want to call them. 3212 02:27:43.120 --> 02:27:45.000 They always all seemed to. 3213 02:27:45.319 --> 02:27:49.120 Draw everybody back to the religion anyway, So you kind 3214 02:27:49.159 --> 02:27:52.399 of could look at him as contractors for God, right, 3215 02:27:52.639 --> 02:27:55.399 Like in a weird way. How many times have somebody 3216 02:27:55.479 --> 02:27:58.200 been like, you know, they've been haunted by a demon, 3217 02:27:58.319 --> 02:28:01.159 they had this weird, demonic fucking you know experience, and 3218 02:28:01.239 --> 02:28:04.639 it's like, well, you know, you're kind of proving the point. 3219 02:28:04.719 --> 02:28:07.000 And you know, whenever we had the Brian from the 3220 02:28:07.079 --> 02:28:09.600 demon erasers on, he thought the same exact thing. He 3221 02:28:09.760 --> 02:28:12.719 was like, like, all the actions that you're carrying out 3222 02:28:12.799 --> 02:28:15.079 right now, it's only causing me to want to follow 3223 02:28:15.120 --> 02:28:18.239 this religion more in the first place. So like all 3224 02:28:18.319 --> 02:28:20.559 the good and all the bad, couldn't we just say 3225 02:28:20.600 --> 02:28:22.799 that it's all God in the first place. 3226 02:28:23.639 --> 02:28:26.520 So hold on now to your restaurant example, and it's 3227 02:28:26.559 --> 02:28:29.639 going to tie into the point here. In high school, 3228 02:28:29.719 --> 02:28:32.879 my first job, completely under the table, illegal as fuck, 3229 02:28:33.559 --> 02:28:37.000 was at this place called Dutchess, Okay, great little steakhouse. 3230 02:28:37.079 --> 02:28:40.159 The owner of it, mister dutch Okay solid. It was 3231 02:28:40.200 --> 02:28:41.959 a bit of an asshole, but he ran a good 3232 02:28:42.040 --> 02:28:43.760 kitchen and he could fucking grill the best steak I've 3233 02:28:43.760 --> 02:28:45.520 ever had in my life, be honest with you. I 3234 02:28:45.639 --> 02:28:48.559 was working there as a busboy, and in high school, 3235 02:28:48.600 --> 02:28:50.879 I'm sixteen years old. I couldn't give a fuck less 3236 02:28:50.959 --> 02:28:54.840 about anything because I'm a high school kid. And long 3237 02:28:54.879 --> 02:28:57.760 story short, there was a night where I had something 3238 02:28:57.760 --> 02:28:59.920 I had to do. I don't know the salads, trash dish, 3239 02:29:00.040 --> 02:29:02.799 who fucking knows, right, but whatever the case was, it 3240 02:29:03.000 --> 02:29:06.799 was subpar and it was under the standard, and he 3241 02:29:06.959 --> 02:29:10.040 had said something to me about it, and it was 3242 02:29:10.399 --> 02:29:12.879 he was being a dick about this. My response is 3243 02:29:12.959 --> 02:29:15.600 what made him be a dick next okay, and he said, hey, 3244 02:29:16.159 --> 02:29:18.520 you know how we do this here. I need you 3245 02:29:18.639 --> 02:29:21.120 to make this better. And I said something along the 3246 02:29:21.200 --> 02:29:23.440 lines of like, uh, I mean yeah, but I mean 3247 02:29:23.479 --> 02:29:24.920 it's good and then like, what difference does it make? 3248 02:29:24.959 --> 02:29:29.360 It's good enough? Son? That man snatched me by my 3249 02:29:29.520 --> 02:29:32.520 collar brought me to the front of that restaurant and 3250 02:29:32.600 --> 02:29:35.559 pointed the sign says whose name is on that fucking sign? Boy? 3251 02:29:35.760 --> 02:29:38.479 And I said it's the Duchess. Is that Jacob's? Is 3252 02:29:38.559 --> 02:29:40.799 that your shit? And I said, no, sir, He said 3253 02:29:40.840 --> 02:29:44.280 that salad is at Dutchess. My name is on that 3254 02:29:44.399 --> 02:29:47.760 fucking salad, not yours. You're gonna make it to standard 3255 02:29:47.959 --> 02:29:49.520 or you're gonna get the fuck and it will bro 3256 02:29:49.719 --> 02:29:53.360 I'm talking. It was my first proper ash chewing, which 3257 02:29:53.479 --> 02:29:56.120 I needed and I deserved and I got. I got 3258 02:29:56.159 --> 02:29:57.120 my peepy slide for that one. 3259 02:29:57.360 --> 02:29:57.600 Cool. 3260 02:29:57.840 --> 02:29:59.319 He actually docked my pay a little bit to make 3261 02:29:59.360 --> 02:30:01.559 a point, but at the Christmas party actually gave it 3262 02:30:01.559 --> 02:30:03.559 back because the whole thing. But it's other point. I 3263 02:30:03.719 --> 02:30:08.159 take that to this realm. Okay, is this our world? 3264 02:30:08.920 --> 02:30:11.959 This is God's fucking world. He made this shit. He 3265 02:30:12.120 --> 02:30:15.040 told us a standard to keep. Now it's up to 3266 02:30:15.239 --> 02:30:17.680 us if we want to keep this standard and keep 3267 02:30:17.719 --> 02:30:20.680 these rules and do as he asks of us. Otherwise 3268 02:30:20.719 --> 02:30:23.879 we can get the fuck because regardless, this is God's 3269 02:30:24.440 --> 02:30:26.040 and that's just the way it is. 3270 02:30:26.479 --> 02:30:28.799 The fact that he doesn't is it shows you like 3271 02:30:29.120 --> 02:30:31.639 you're talking about like unending kindness, like like you know, 3272 02:30:31.680 --> 02:30:33.959 if we want to attribute things like childhood cancer to him, 3273 02:30:33.959 --> 02:30:35.639 it's like the fact that he's just smite you off 3274 02:30:35.680 --> 02:30:38.159 the earth the second that you know, Billy Carson goes 3275 02:30:38.200 --> 02:30:39.159 on talking shit about it. 3276 02:30:39.680 --> 02:30:44.040 It's that I'm like, it's to further my point, the 3277 02:30:44.200 --> 02:30:48.280 reason I didn't get fired because his son, little Dutch, 3278 02:30:48.680 --> 02:30:49.959 stuck his neck out for me. 3279 02:30:50.280 --> 02:30:54.440 Interesting, So to further my point, I do think. 3280 02:30:54.360 --> 02:30:56.719 Almost like he gave us a pass on all the 3281 02:30:56.760 --> 02:30:58.719 shit that he knows we're gonna do because we're that 3282 02:30:58.840 --> 02:31:01.200 sixteen year old dumb ass. Yes, and he actually sent 3283 02:31:01.360 --> 02:31:04.600 his son on behalf of us because he did it. 3284 02:31:04.719 --> 02:31:08.639 We didn't ask our son. Thankfully, we don't need to 3285 02:31:08.879 --> 02:31:11.319 have Jesus in that regard. He sent him to earth 3286 02:31:11.399 --> 02:31:14.559 for us. We just have to acknowledge that and follow them. 3287 02:31:15.120 --> 02:31:19.200 I would say too, that the point is that there's 3288 02:31:19.200 --> 02:31:22.040 something else beyond this right, like this is important and 3289 02:31:22.120 --> 02:31:24.719 the decisions that you make here are incredibly important. But 3290 02:31:24.879 --> 02:31:28.280 you notice how what you do develops you spiritually in 3291 02:31:28.600 --> 02:31:32.159 your personality. I don't think that there is I mean, 3292 02:31:32.200 --> 02:31:34.040 maybe there is another way. Maybe we could have just 3293 02:31:34.079 --> 02:31:38.200 been made, you know, perfect in our knowledge, in our wisdom. 3294 02:31:39.959 --> 02:31:44.399 But instead he gave us the ability to develop as children, 3295 02:31:44.559 --> 02:31:46.760 and I mean like children as we inhabit this realm. Right, 3296 02:31:46.840 --> 02:31:50.840 It's like, ideally we are becoming what we're supposed to be, 3297 02:31:50.879 --> 02:31:53.600 becoming wiser and better as human beings. I think we'll 3298 02:31:53.680 --> 02:31:57.280 leave this place and for all the horror that we'll 3299 02:31:57.319 --> 02:32:00.559 have seen, that'll kind of be extinguished once we realize like, oh, 3300 02:32:01.239 --> 02:32:04.159 it is okay. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, but 3301 02:32:04.319 --> 02:32:09.079 it is okay. And I think that where we go 3302 02:32:09.360 --> 02:32:12.600 after this, we are going to retain a lot of 3303 02:32:12.959 --> 02:32:15.840 the way we developed here, the lessons, the love that 3304 02:32:15.959 --> 02:32:20.120 we developed. And I think that that is incredible that 3305 02:32:20.239 --> 02:32:22.280 he gave us the ability to do this instead of 3306 02:32:22.440 --> 02:32:25.879 just making us perfect, And he allowed us to crawl 3307 02:32:26.079 --> 02:32:29.360 and then walk and then run and then develop into 3308 02:32:29.440 --> 02:32:33.239 something and go through this fucking this epic saga. You know, 3309 02:32:33.680 --> 02:32:36.120 this physical realm that we inhabit and the history that 3310 02:32:36.159 --> 02:32:38.840 we developed as a human being, and also what's on 3311 02:32:38.959 --> 02:32:41.399 the horizon, if we truly are going to see incredible 3312 02:32:41.440 --> 02:32:43.600 things in our lifetime. I think we'll get to a 3313 02:32:43.639 --> 02:32:45.799 place after this where it's like gratitude is going to 3314 02:32:45.840 --> 02:32:47.879 be the only thing that we can express, like thank 3315 02:32:47.959 --> 02:32:50.040 you for putting me in front of my wife and 3316 02:32:50.159 --> 02:32:53.879 my son, and thank you for all the hard times 3317 02:32:54.040 --> 02:32:56.280 but also the beautiful times, and thank you for allowing 3318 02:32:56.280 --> 02:32:59.840 me to bear witness to this unbelievable shit as it unfolded. 3319 02:33:00.280 --> 02:33:02.040 And then I think that's kind of just the beginning 3320 02:33:02.120 --> 02:33:03.079 of another story. 3321 02:33:03.479 --> 02:33:05.719 But it's like to go to a small story and 3322 02:33:06.239 --> 02:33:08.479 I actually got to run in a minute. But for 3323 02:33:08.639 --> 02:33:12.639 Bohemian Grove, that was a hard event to pull off. 3324 02:33:13.319 --> 02:33:15.879 We had people, I mean so many people. Everything that 3325 02:33:15.959 --> 02:33:18.719 could go wrong did go wrong. And there was a 3326 02:33:18.840 --> 02:33:20.879 point like a week before, maybe two weeks before, I 3327 02:33:20.920 --> 02:33:23.440 looked at David and I was like, I don't know 3328 02:33:23.520 --> 02:33:27.159 if we should do this because at everything that I 3329 02:33:27.280 --> 02:33:29.959 was doing, at every single point, there was resistance meeting 3330 02:33:30.079 --> 02:33:32.639 me and it didn't make any sense. And I'm like, 3331 02:33:32.680 --> 02:33:34.600 all right, listen, I don't want to be the guy 3332 02:33:34.680 --> 02:33:36.879 that says this is a spiritual attack, but like, my 3333 02:33:37.000 --> 02:33:39.000 dog just died of a random heart cancer and this 3334 02:33:39.120 --> 02:33:40.440 is a hell. I was like, this shit is like 3335 02:33:40.799 --> 02:33:42.760 I'm like, this is out of control at this point. 3336 02:33:43.440 --> 02:33:46.239 And I basically we were at the point where like 3337 02:33:46.280 --> 02:33:48.440 we could cancel it, and we decided not to because 3338 02:33:48.440 --> 02:33:50.719 I'm like, if we'd cancel it, we'll never do it, 3339 02:33:50.959 --> 02:33:52.799 We'll never get around to doing this. And I think 3340 02:33:52.840 --> 02:33:55.600 it's important to do for the community that we're trying 3341 02:33:55.600 --> 02:33:58.239 to build and all that. But I said all that 3342 02:33:58.319 --> 02:34:02.239 because after it was done, you know, no matter what 3343 02:34:02.319 --> 02:34:03.920 the result, we did what we had to do. We 3344 02:34:03.959 --> 02:34:05.959 had some audio issues, but I think everyone had a 3345 02:34:06.000 --> 02:34:08.360 good time, and I'm like, I'm so glad I did it, 3346 02:34:09.000 --> 02:34:10.959 and I think it was a bigger success than it 3347 02:34:11.399 --> 02:34:16.440 actually probably was because of the the perseverance that we 3348 02:34:16.479 --> 02:34:18.120 had to was it because of the opposition that we 3349 02:34:18.239 --> 02:34:20.520 faced it every single step of the way. And still 3350 02:34:20.600 --> 02:34:24.159 we were like, fuck you, I'm doing this thing, you know, 3351 02:34:24.280 --> 02:34:26.239 Like I was talking to God. I was like, hey, listen, 3352 02:34:26.319 --> 02:34:28.200 you know, there was things in my life that were 3353 02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:32.520 going completely haywire upside down. I was like, at one 3354 02:34:32.559 --> 02:34:36.280 point I actually said, Hey, that's enough, Like, I get it. 3355 02:34:36.559 --> 02:34:39.319 I'm not supposed to do this thing, or you know, 3356 02:34:39.399 --> 02:34:41.239 maybe I am supposed to do this thing, but there's 3357 02:34:41.360 --> 02:34:44.399 obstacles in my way. But that's enough. I'm doing this anyway. 3358 02:34:44.399 --> 02:34:48.079 I'm committed now and kind of cleared up. We pulled 3359 02:34:48.120 --> 02:34:51.559 it off. But yeah, without life, without these obstacles and 3360 02:34:51.719 --> 02:34:53.600 without this strife, is like, what's it worth living? 3361 02:34:53.680 --> 02:34:54.040 This is all? 3362 02:34:54.719 --> 02:34:57.159 Are we all parents here, Jonathan? Are your parents? 3363 02:34:57.440 --> 02:35:00.959 Yeah? Yeah, I have two kids, So okay, Because I 3364 02:35:01.000 --> 02:35:02.760 think we've been looking at this from like an US 3365 02:35:02.840 --> 02:35:05.959 centric point of view, and I think that maybe looking 3366 02:35:06.000 --> 02:35:08.959 over to God, if God truly did love us to 3367 02:35:09.040 --> 02:35:11.520 the extent that he sent his only son to die 3368 02:35:11.600 --> 02:35:14.360 for us, let's take that at face value. 3369 02:35:14.399 --> 02:35:17.879 God loves the shit out of us. Your own child. 3370 02:35:18.760 --> 02:35:21.959 Would you rather they just came out prebated, full of 3371 02:35:22.000 --> 02:35:26.799 wisdom and intelligence, fully developed? Or is the journey that 3372 02:35:26.920 --> 02:35:29.399 they go through as much of a blessing for you 3373 02:35:29.520 --> 02:35:31.399 to bear witness too as it is for them to 3374 02:35:31.479 --> 02:35:36.000 go through? And I think that sometimes we turn God 3375 02:35:36.079 --> 02:35:37.799 and I used to do this. How could we know 3376 02:35:37.879 --> 02:35:41.520 the nature of God? How could we project our own 3377 02:35:41.680 --> 02:35:46.200 understanding of man onto this creator entity, and I used 3378 02:35:46.200 --> 02:35:47.920 to be more comfortable with the idea that he was 3379 02:35:47.959 --> 02:35:50.520 maybe like a cloud of energy that all consciousness returned 3380 02:35:50.520 --> 02:35:53.399 to when you died, because I don't fucking know. Probably 3381 02:35:53.440 --> 02:35:55.559 thank you Sci Fi for that. But I think that 3382 02:35:55.639 --> 02:35:58.719 there's a fractal nature to reality. When you look at 3383 02:35:58.719 --> 02:36:02.120 a microscopic level, it emulates who's to grow. And I 3384 02:36:02.280 --> 02:36:06.159 think that God is showing you his nature. So I 3385 02:36:06.239 --> 02:36:08.399 think in some ways, you can look at yourself as 3386 02:36:08.440 --> 02:36:11.799 a parent and what you want for your kids, and 3387 02:36:11.920 --> 02:36:14.920 how you do value the hardship, especially when they overcome 3388 02:36:14.959 --> 02:36:16.799 and learn from it, and I think we can kind 3389 02:36:16.799 --> 02:36:20.399 of project those values onto God, I think pretty safely actually, 3390 02:36:20.520 --> 02:36:23.799 just given that fractal nature of reality, as above so 3391 02:36:23.959 --> 02:36:28.000 below is a spiritual truism. It's a reality of this realm. 3392 02:36:28.520 --> 02:36:32.399 And I think that so often what He actually wants 3393 02:36:32.479 --> 02:36:34.840 for us is left out of the conversation. I think 3394 02:36:34.920 --> 02:36:37.200 he wants us to grow. I think he wants to 3395 02:36:37.280 --> 02:36:39.079 see us grow. I think he wants us to grow 3396 02:36:39.120 --> 02:36:40.959 with him. I think he wants us to talk to him. 3397 02:36:41.399 --> 02:36:43.600 I think he wishes we would just fucking talk to him. 3398 02:36:43.680 --> 02:36:45.719 Sometimes I get that, but. 3399 02:36:45.959 --> 02:36:49.319 Isn't it kind of an illusion of free will? Like 3400 02:36:50.040 --> 02:36:52.319 the idea, yes, are we free to go about and 3401 02:36:52.399 --> 02:36:54.399 do whatever the hell we want? Yeah, yeah, for sure, 3402 02:36:54.600 --> 02:36:56.079 Like you can if you want to be a pedophile, 3403 02:36:56.079 --> 02:36:57.760 go ahead and do it. You want to be a rapist, 3404 02:36:57.840 --> 02:36:59.399 a killer, or whatever, you go ahead and do it. 3405 02:36:59.559 --> 02:37:02.120 Like that's free will. God gave you that right. But like, 3406 02:37:02.360 --> 02:37:06.600 ultimately it's almost like it's an illusion of free will 3407 02:37:06.760 --> 02:37:09.959 because you can do all that in the meantime, but 3408 02:37:10.120 --> 02:37:15.360 in the end, there's your free will that allowed you 3409 02:37:15.440 --> 02:37:17.799 to be able to do all those negative things or 3410 02:37:18.159 --> 02:37:20.360 just not believe. By the way, it's not even just 3411 02:37:20.639 --> 02:37:23.200 as simple as being like those horrible things. If you 3412 02:37:23.319 --> 02:37:26.280 don't believe, you will be treated as the same way, 3413 02:37:26.479 --> 02:37:29.159 in the same respect that a rapist and a pedophile 3414 02:37:29.280 --> 02:37:31.799 and a murderer and like shit like that, you'll be 3415 02:37:31.920 --> 02:37:33.920 treated the same exact way. 3416 02:37:35.280 --> 02:37:36.719 Once you get to the end. Till recently and I 3417 02:37:36.840 --> 02:37:38.000 learned that that wasn't the case. 3418 02:37:38.239 --> 02:37:40.600 It's like, now we're talking about what hell is, and 3419 02:37:41.159 --> 02:37:43.120 I think what you were describing why I joked in 3420 02:37:43.159 --> 02:37:45.239 the beginning of this episode about what hell is that 3421 02:37:46.319 --> 02:37:49.280 You're like, it's this infinite void, this darkness, and it 3422 02:37:49.360 --> 02:37:52.559 freaked you the fuck out, and maybe you should talk 3423 02:37:52.600 --> 02:37:54.680 with him. He's a he's really good. He has this 3424 02:37:54.799 --> 02:37:56.920 theory about the speed of light and how God is 3425 02:37:56.959 --> 02:37:58.680 kind of like getting a little further away in the 3426 02:37:58.719 --> 02:38:00.520 speed of light is kind of going town, which makes 3427 02:38:00.559 --> 02:38:04.319 our physical constitution and among other things like degree rapidly. 3428 02:38:05.239 --> 02:38:06.639 So if God is light, if he is the sun, 3429 02:38:06.680 --> 02:38:10.159 if he's like raw all these stories, hell means that 3430 02:38:10.319 --> 02:38:13.680 you are not next to him, you are away from him. 3431 02:38:13.680 --> 02:38:15.959 And if there's no light, then you are in this 3432 02:38:16.079 --> 02:38:18.959 infant And I think that that you know, it's it's 3433 02:38:19.079 --> 02:38:21.079 torture in it. It's like it's like, yeah, you know, 3434 02:38:21.440 --> 02:38:25.200 pedophiles go there, rapists go there, murderers go there, people 3435 02:38:25.280 --> 02:38:27.799 who don't. But then it's like, hey, why would I 3436 02:38:27.879 --> 02:38:29.719 want to live next to this guy. I didn't know him, 3437 02:38:30.000 --> 02:38:31.879 I never spoke with him. Would you want to come 3438 02:38:31.920 --> 02:38:33.520 and move into my house? Like we had, We've had 3439 02:38:33.520 --> 02:38:35.639 a couple of conversations. I'm like moving. You'd be like, no, 3440 02:38:35.760 --> 02:38:37.520 that's fucking crazy. I don't know you. And I'd say 3441 02:38:37.559 --> 02:38:39.079 the same thing to you, like I don't really know you. 3442 02:38:39.239 --> 02:38:41.719 Like that you can't live with my kids. I don't 3443 02:38:41.799 --> 02:38:44.200 know you, And it's just a side effect of like, hey, 3444 02:38:44.239 --> 02:38:45.879 if I am the light and you are far from me, 3445 02:38:45.959 --> 02:38:48.959 you're going to be in something so dark and cold 3446 02:38:49.040 --> 02:38:50.239 that it's going to feel like you're burning. 3447 02:38:50.639 --> 02:38:50.840 Yeah. 3448 02:38:50.840 --> 02:38:53.040 And I think that a lot of hell has been 3449 02:38:53.120 --> 02:38:57.520 our own, the interpretation of it has been our own butchering. Okay, 3450 02:38:58.479 --> 02:39:00.680 But I do think that there are levels of severity. 3451 02:39:01.680 --> 02:39:04.280 And I think that hell is like top is saying 3452 02:39:04.360 --> 02:39:07.360 it's distance from God. I think that is really what 3453 02:39:07.520 --> 02:39:11.399 hell is. And I think that even on the heaven aspect, 3454 02:39:11.479 --> 02:39:14.479 it's very clear. Scripture says, right, there's two thrones of 3455 02:39:14.559 --> 02:39:17.959 judgment in the end, and one of them is Jesus 3456 02:39:18.000 --> 02:39:20.879 is thrown. And that is more or less like, well, 3457 02:39:21.319 --> 02:39:23.959 you've been saved, you believed in me, But to what 3458 02:39:24.159 --> 02:39:28.520 degree will you have nice things in this afterlife? And 3459 02:39:28.600 --> 02:39:30.440 then I think the same thing. So remember what I 3460 02:39:30.479 --> 02:39:33.000 was saying about the fractal nature of reality as above 3461 02:39:33.079 --> 02:39:37.159 so below. We as human beings create pretty complex systems, 3462 02:39:37.879 --> 02:39:41.840 especially complex systems for punishment. There are varying levels of 3463 02:39:42.479 --> 02:39:47.000 sentences that you can endure. There's various levels maximum you know, security, 3464 02:39:47.040 --> 02:39:50.799 prisons and isolation and all these different things. I think 3465 02:39:50.920 --> 02:39:57.520 that once again, through our limited understanding, we have screwed 3466 02:39:57.559 --> 02:40:01.040 these concepts up. Why would we be so capable of 3467 02:40:01.200 --> 02:40:05.159 creating something so nuanced and structured and tiered, but God 3468 02:40:05.239 --> 02:40:07.239 would not. And so I don't think that it is 3469 02:40:08.440 --> 02:40:11.399 as simple as and I'm not saying this is what 3470 02:40:11.440 --> 02:40:13.239 you're saying, Jonathan, but like some people do look at 3471 02:40:13.280 --> 02:40:14.920 it as like you're gonna be boiling next to Hitler 3472 02:40:15.159 --> 02:40:18.440 in a fiery pit, and I go, that's kind of 3473 02:40:18.479 --> 02:40:19.079 cartoon shit. 3474 02:40:19.959 --> 02:40:22.120 I think that there is a lot more nuance to it. 3475 02:40:22.319 --> 02:40:24.879 And I mean, look, there are people even that say 3476 02:40:24.959 --> 02:40:27.639 that hell is a temporary place, and I don't know 3477 02:40:27.840 --> 02:40:31.840 how true that is, but I just know that we 3478 02:40:32.000 --> 02:40:35.000 send people to prison temporarily. I would not be surprised 3479 02:40:35.079 --> 02:40:37.479 if by the end of this thing we will find 3480 02:40:37.520 --> 02:40:42.760 that we have grossly misinterpreted God and his word, and 3481 02:40:43.079 --> 02:40:46.159 that the systems and places that we will see after 3482 02:40:46.239 --> 02:40:49.719 this will look very similar to what we do, but 3483 02:40:49.920 --> 02:40:52.360 on a grandiose level. And I think we're going to 3484 02:40:52.440 --> 02:40:54.760 face palm the shit out of ourselves when we fucking die, 3485 02:40:56.040 --> 02:40:58.239 just in the way that we've reduced this because the 3486 02:40:58.319 --> 02:41:00.360 more that I look into it, the more new wants 3487 02:41:00.399 --> 02:41:02.840 to get and the more I don't think that that 3488 02:41:03.000 --> 02:41:06.479 like you know, it's like that as above, so below 3489 02:41:06.600 --> 02:41:09.200 is supposed to be like a BOTHAMTT principle, right, And 3490 02:41:10.719 --> 02:41:13.440 I don't think that that is true. I think it 3491 02:41:13.559 --> 02:41:16.639 was a principle that was co opted and inverted. But 3492 02:41:16.719 --> 02:41:19.239 I think it's just a universal truism about where we 3493 02:41:19.680 --> 02:41:22.360 reside in this realm. And it's even the same thing 3494 02:41:22.360 --> 02:41:26.000 when people go, well, Jesus, Christ is actually an analog 3495 02:41:26.120 --> 02:41:28.360 or analogy rather for the Sun. And see what happens 3496 02:41:28.479 --> 02:41:31.600 is the sun rests on this thing called the celestial crux, 3497 02:41:31.600 --> 02:41:33.760 and it stays there for three days, and then after 3498 02:41:33.799 --> 02:41:36.479 the third day it moves from that place in the 3499 02:41:36.479 --> 02:41:38.959 sky and the days become longer. Thus you know the 3500 02:41:39.040 --> 02:41:43.000 return of the sun or the resurrection. Also, Jesus is 3501 02:41:43.159 --> 02:41:46.440 just a metaphor for the thirty three vertebrae that you 3502 02:41:46.520 --> 02:41:49.639 have in your spine. And Christ is actually Christos, which 3503 02:41:49.680 --> 02:41:51.520 is an oil that is in your spine. And if you, 3504 02:41:51.959 --> 02:41:54.479 through some sort of meditation, can manage to migrate this 3505 02:41:54.639 --> 02:41:57.680 oil to your pineal gland, you will become an ascended 3506 02:41:57.760 --> 02:42:02.040 Master like Jesus Christ. And I hear when I hear 3507 02:42:02.200 --> 02:42:06.760 that is that God and Jesus Christ are echoed through 3508 02:42:07.319 --> 02:42:10.479 so much of this reality. That does not mean that 3509 02:42:11.000 --> 02:42:14.440 Jesus Christ is just an analogy for oil, or that 3510 02:42:14.559 --> 02:42:17.360 Jesus Christ is just an analogy for the sun. I 3511 02:42:17.479 --> 02:42:21.280 look at that, and I go this universe emulates, it 3512 02:42:21.479 --> 02:42:26.559 echoes God's will on the macro and on the micro 3513 02:42:26.840 --> 02:42:30.159 and you will find him wherever you look. And so 3514 02:42:30.360 --> 02:42:34.719 I think that on that level, when you die, whether 3515 02:42:34.799 --> 02:42:37.360 or not it comes to Hell, I think that fractal 3516 02:42:37.440 --> 02:42:39.719 nature still exists there, and I think that it'll just 3517 02:42:39.959 --> 02:42:42.200 be very similar to systems that we have here. And 3518 02:42:42.280 --> 02:42:44.120 then you'll have to ask yourself the question, was it 3519 02:42:44.159 --> 02:42:47.079 ever our intention to create this system? Or do we 3520 02:42:47.239 --> 02:42:50.719 have that little spark of divine because God did create 3521 02:42:50.799 --> 02:42:53.079 us and so we move in His will in so 3522 02:42:53.159 --> 02:42:53.600 many ways. 3523 02:42:53.879 --> 02:42:58.399 It definitely seems right. Like the interpretation factor, I mean, 3524 02:42:58.479 --> 02:43:02.879 look at it. How many different religions are there that 3525 02:43:02.959 --> 02:43:05.120 are stemming off of Christianity in the first place. There's 3526 02:43:05.120 --> 02:43:08.120 always going to be different interpretations. And I think that 3527 02:43:08.200 --> 02:43:10.520 you are right as far as you know. The there's 3528 02:43:10.600 --> 02:43:13.760 certain like emulating factors, whether you're looking up in the 3529 02:43:13.840 --> 02:43:16.719 stars and you're trying to read the the skyclock, as 3530 02:43:16.760 --> 02:43:18.559 Crow Triple seven calls it, or if you're trying to 3531 02:43:18.639 --> 02:43:21.200 understand science and you get into the cristos and how 3532 02:43:21.239 --> 02:43:23.399 it's rising up the spine, and then you get into 3533 02:43:23.479 --> 02:43:27.200 certain you know, Vedic understandings, and it all kind of 3534 02:43:27.440 --> 02:43:30.200 does say the same thing. And so that's, honestly, that's 3535 02:43:30.200 --> 02:43:32.399 why I say, I'm kind of like the fucking the 3536 02:43:32.479 --> 02:43:36.520 coexists bumper sticker, Like I believe that there is remnants 3537 02:43:36.559 --> 02:43:39.159 of truth within all of them. And I think that 3538 02:43:39.239 --> 02:43:42.159 if you're really this is just my own personal interpretation, 3539 02:43:42.559 --> 02:43:44.959 I think that if you are putting more eggs in 3540 02:43:45.200 --> 02:43:48.680 one specific basket, that's what causes you to kind of 3541 02:43:48.760 --> 02:43:52.040 distance yourself from you know, your brothers and your sisters, 3542 02:43:52.079 --> 02:43:54.239 and your neighbors and your parents and anybody who has 3543 02:43:54.280 --> 02:43:57.559 a different, you know, understanding than you you're distancing yourself from. 3544 02:43:57.799 --> 02:43:59.879 And I think that God wants the exact opposite of that. 3545 02:44:00.200 --> 02:44:02.159 God wants us all to come together. God wants us 3546 02:44:02.200 --> 02:44:04.319 to treat our neighbor as ourselves and stuff like that. 3547 02:44:04.479 --> 02:44:07.360 And so I think that you know, that there's there's 3548 02:44:07.440 --> 02:44:09.399 more than one way to skin a cat here, and 3549 02:44:09.639 --> 02:44:10.719 I am with it. 3550 02:44:11.280 --> 02:44:15.120 That's what pushed me away from Christianity in general because 3551 02:44:15.200 --> 02:44:18.079 my mother I don't even remember what scripture, but same 3552 02:44:18.120 --> 02:44:19.959 sort of thing. We were closer with our family and 3553 02:44:20.120 --> 02:44:21.879 she became a Christian and she had to turn her 3554 02:44:21.920 --> 02:44:23.920 life around. So that means that you can't break bread 3555 02:44:23.920 --> 02:44:25.920 with the sinner. And I'm like, well that's uncle, what 3556 02:44:26.440 --> 02:44:27.040 uncle Andy? 3557 02:44:27.280 --> 02:44:29.440 You know, it's like I'm still gonna know Jesus ate 3558 02:44:29.520 --> 02:44:30.680 with the horrors. 3559 02:44:30.719 --> 02:44:33.639 Exactly like we do Brohemian Grove with the trannies. Like 3560 02:44:34.719 --> 02:44:40.079 really listen, man, I've I just I come off abrasive 3561 02:44:40.079 --> 02:44:41.600 and stuff. But like one of the things that I 3562 02:44:41.719 --> 02:44:43.799 value most in what I'm able to do now is 3563 02:44:43.879 --> 02:44:46.120 just like this community. It's beautiful. Like I want to 3564 02:44:46.159 --> 02:44:48.719 talk with everybody and I want everyone to kind of 3565 02:44:48.799 --> 02:44:50.600 like be involved here. If you believe what I believe, 3566 02:44:50.680 --> 02:44:53.200 that's that's great. As long as you're not like shitting 3567 02:44:53.280 --> 02:44:55.719 on me, like really trashing me, like in a mean way. 3568 02:44:55.760 --> 02:44:57.559 You do have to be a little bit. 3569 02:44:58.959 --> 02:45:02.959 Not defensive, but a little bit more convicted in your 3570 02:45:04.520 --> 02:45:06.479 alignment with God. And what I mean by that is 3571 02:45:06.600 --> 02:45:10.520 like there is one hundred percent to Jonathan's point, I 3572 02:45:10.520 --> 02:45:12.120 don't even want to say a nugget of truth. There's 3573 02:45:12.120 --> 02:45:16.159 a lot of truth to all these different religions. Imagine though, 3574 02:45:16.200 --> 02:45:20.280 for a moment, you worked your ass off, you made 3575 02:45:20.840 --> 02:45:24.600 a house for your wife and your son, and you 3576 02:45:25.840 --> 02:45:27.840 bought them all these things, and you put food on 3577 02:45:27.920 --> 02:45:32.239 the table, and you've gone above and beyond to create 3578 02:45:32.360 --> 02:45:35.959 something of value for those that you love, and for 3579 02:45:36.079 --> 02:45:42.040 whatever reason, they keep thanking Uncle Terry, and it's like, no, 3580 02:45:42.239 --> 02:45:44.760 motherfucker I did this. And I think that's why the 3581 02:45:44.799 --> 02:45:48.680 first commandment is like not having any other gods before me. 3582 02:45:49.440 --> 02:45:54.440 The mistake that others are making, and albeit they are 3583 02:45:54.479 --> 02:45:57.520 surrounded by a lot of truth, is they are attributing 3584 02:45:57.719 --> 02:46:01.680 this creation to something else. Just from my own point 3585 02:46:01.680 --> 02:46:04.239 of view, I would have to sit down my family 3586 02:46:04.319 --> 02:46:06.959 again and again and be like, I am the one 3587 02:46:07.000 --> 02:46:09.360 who's making the things for you. Okay, this is not 3588 02:46:09.600 --> 02:46:12.920 the doing of Uncle Terry, you know. And it honestly 3589 02:46:13.239 --> 02:46:16.959 hurts a lot that you would say that this is 3590 02:46:17.040 --> 02:46:19.840 somebody else's doing and not mine. And I would resent 3591 02:46:20.040 --> 02:46:23.520 greatly anyone who would step into my home and claim 3592 02:46:23.600 --> 02:46:26.319 that they built it, and I think that that is 3593 02:46:27.239 --> 02:46:29.959 the core of the issue. I don't hate other people 3594 02:46:30.079 --> 02:46:32.479 and their other religions at all, and I always tell 3595 02:46:32.520 --> 02:46:34.840 people it's like, no, I do believe that you're right 3596 02:46:34.920 --> 02:46:36.719 about a lot of things, and you are seeing these 3597 02:46:37.159 --> 02:46:40.040 you know, spiritual principles and entities and. 3598 02:46:40.079 --> 02:46:40.520 Things like that. 3599 02:46:41.559 --> 02:46:45.440 But you are in God's house and you are telling 3600 02:46:45.559 --> 02:46:48.760 me that as Zazel made it, and that is where 3601 02:46:49.040 --> 02:46:51.479 the core of the problem is. So yeah, no, definitely, 3602 02:46:52.360 --> 02:46:55.440 I think God does want us to come together, but 3603 02:46:55.600 --> 02:46:59.959 that certainly does not mean to then falsely at true 3604 02:47:00.239 --> 02:47:02.760 his creation to something else just because your brother does. 3605 02:47:03.799 --> 02:47:07.280 Beautiful Well, I know, I get it. I appreciate you 3606 02:47:07.360 --> 02:47:09.920 know the perspectives here, and I think that we all 3607 02:47:10.000 --> 02:47:13.639 learn a little bit when there are varying perspectives, right, Like, 3608 02:47:13.840 --> 02:47:15.520 you don't want to be in one of those echo 3609 02:47:15.639 --> 02:47:18.360 chambers that is everybody's just like sucking each other's dick 3610 02:47:18.440 --> 02:47:19.639 and fucking deep throat in each other. 3611 02:47:19.760 --> 02:47:22.000 Yes, you said exactly what I believe, So now I 3612 02:47:22.159 --> 02:47:23.840 like you a lot more. Like I don't want to 3613 02:47:23.879 --> 02:47:24.440 be a part of that. 3614 02:47:24.799 --> 02:47:27.959 I want to be around people that have different perspectives 3615 02:47:28.000 --> 02:47:31.040 that can broaden my awareness and broaden my understanding of 3616 02:47:31.159 --> 02:47:34.959 exactly the nature of our reality. Like I love those 3617 02:47:35.079 --> 02:47:37.440 kinds of you know, those kinds of conversations. So I 3618 02:47:37.520 --> 02:47:40.680 appreciate you guys coming on. And this is why our 3619 02:47:40.760 --> 02:47:43.319 show does really well. Me and Jacob, we don't agree 3620 02:47:43.440 --> 02:47:45.559 on a lot of the same shit, and that's that's 3621 02:47:45.600 --> 02:47:48.280 what's cool about it, is that you can disagree and 3622 02:47:48.479 --> 02:47:51.719 still Jacob my best friend for life. There is not 3623 02:47:51.840 --> 02:47:55.399 a single person that I would trust more in this 3624 02:47:55.760 --> 02:48:00.680 life than Jacob. And even though we have very different perspectives, 3625 02:48:00.920 --> 02:48:01.680 due it's all love. 3626 02:48:01.760 --> 02:48:02.360 That's all it is. 3627 02:48:02.600 --> 02:48:04.639 And so I you know, that's why I appreciate you 3628 02:48:04.719 --> 02:48:07.879 guys coming on, sharing your perspective, sharing your understandings, and 3629 02:48:07.959 --> 02:48:10.079 all the research that you guys have done. Like this 3630 02:48:10.239 --> 02:48:12.399 is beautiful what we're doing here in this podcast world. 3631 02:48:12.440 --> 02:48:14.840 It's not controlled, it's not constricted. We are free to 3632 02:48:14.840 --> 02:48:16.959 speak our own mind and we're also free to fucking 3633 02:48:17.000 --> 02:48:19.719 get along. And that's that's what's great about this, especially 3634 02:48:19.799 --> 02:48:21.799 coming out of the holiday season, right like, this is 3635 02:48:21.879 --> 02:48:22.760 the good shit right here. 3636 02:48:23.000 --> 02:48:25.319 I do not expect this episode to go this way. 3637 02:48:25.319 --> 02:48:27.760 I'm not lie. We touched on all the shit today, 3638 02:48:27.879 --> 02:48:28.639 good God. 3639 02:48:28.760 --> 02:48:32.000 Jacob, are aren't we isn't there precedent for wrestling with God? 3640 02:48:32.120 --> 02:48:33.559 And is that not what we're doing here? 3641 02:48:34.440 --> 02:48:37.280 My my namesake, as a matter of fact, allegedly at 3642 02:48:37.319 --> 02:48:41.799 one point in time, did have a physical altercation with God. Yeah, 3643 02:48:42.159 --> 02:48:45.120 although although a lot of scholars believe it was more 3644 02:48:45.159 --> 02:48:47.040 of an angelic figure on behalf of God. 3645 02:48:47.120 --> 02:48:47.399 Whatever. 3646 02:48:47.559 --> 02:48:51.000 Whatever. Yes, that's that is a thing, and that's the 3647 02:48:51.079 --> 02:48:53.000 whole point. We are not supposed to if you read 3648 02:48:53.040 --> 02:48:55.520 the Bible cover to cover and just accept everything like yep, 3649 02:48:55.639 --> 02:48:58.719 good time, bro, you're fucking psycho. There are so many 3650 02:48:58.799 --> 02:49:02.120 things in there that need so oh much more clarification. Yeah, 3651 02:49:02.159 --> 02:49:04.520 And that's the thing. We as humans wrestle with this. 3652 02:49:04.639 --> 02:49:06.719 We wrestle with our own conscience. We wrestle with the 3653 02:49:06.799 --> 02:49:09.399 spirit realm, we wrestle with the physical realm. We wrestle 3654 02:49:09.440 --> 02:49:12.319 with what happens if dot dot dot after dot dot 3655 02:49:12.399 --> 02:49:15.959 dot to every flavor and culture you could think, and 3656 02:49:16.079 --> 02:49:19.479 at the end of it, if we stay the course, 3657 02:49:19.799 --> 02:49:22.040 if we do the most that we can do, and 3658 02:49:22.120 --> 02:49:23.920 I don't mean project that we're doing the most that 3659 02:49:23.959 --> 02:49:25.879 we can do, if we actually can lay our heads 3660 02:49:25.879 --> 02:49:28.079 down at night and say that I gave today one 3661 02:49:28.159 --> 02:49:32.840 hundred and ten percent of doing the most morally, the most, physically, 3662 02:49:32.920 --> 02:49:35.159 the most whatever. If you give it your all, and 3663 02:49:35.239 --> 02:49:37.360 you do it in the name of Jesus, then it's 3664 02:49:37.440 --> 02:49:40.319 gonna work. You're gonna It's how It's like literally a 3665 02:49:40.479 --> 02:49:40.959 cheat coat. 3666 02:49:41.399 --> 02:49:45.120 I think we were immersed in what, in hindsight, will 3667 02:49:45.120 --> 02:49:47.479 be the greatest mystery we've ever been subjected to, and 3668 02:49:47.559 --> 02:49:50.639 I think God wants us to try to cut through 3669 02:49:50.719 --> 02:49:51.920 that and understand him. 3670 02:49:52.200 --> 02:49:54.520 I think that that is a huge part of this. 3671 02:49:54.719 --> 02:49:56.520 Let me ask you, are you guys not having the 3672 02:49:56.559 --> 02:49:57.639 time of your life doing this? 3673 02:49:57.879 --> 02:50:01.239 It's such ah, my gosh, best job ever head exactly, 3674 02:50:01.520 --> 02:50:04.120 and especially as time moves forward and things get crazier, 3675 02:50:04.200 --> 02:50:06.079 it is the best job in the world. 3676 02:50:06.120 --> 02:50:08.399 Bro. I literally have a Christmas party. Was just talking 3677 02:50:08.399 --> 02:50:10.040 to a guy I used to work with him long 3678 02:50:10.079 --> 02:50:11.760 story shories my wife's cousins, so I see him at 3679 02:50:11.760 --> 02:50:14.079 family functions and he's like, so, you still doing your 3680 02:50:14.120 --> 02:50:14.760 little podcast. 3681 02:50:14.879 --> 02:50:17.399 It was like my little podcast, Yeah, I've been putting 3682 02:50:17.399 --> 02:50:18.600 some respect on my name. 3683 02:50:18.920 --> 02:50:20.639 Oh no, no, because he was shitting on me back 3684 02:50:20.680 --> 02:50:22.520 when we worked together on shift and I was still 3685 02:50:22.719 --> 02:50:25.040 working two jobs trying to build this thing to you 3686 02:50:25.120 --> 02:50:27.000 know what I mean. So, yeah, he saw that side 3687 02:50:27.040 --> 02:50:29.440 of it, and he's like, wait, how do you have 3688 02:50:29.520 --> 02:50:31.000 that much to talk about? I'm like, dude, we're over 3689 02:50:31.079 --> 02:50:33.040 six hundred episodes and I don't know if you've seen 3690 02:50:33.079 --> 02:50:36.360 the news lately, but they keep making shit for us 3691 02:50:36.479 --> 02:50:40.040 to talk about. You could look ten years previously and 3692 02:50:40.200 --> 02:50:42.479 they had more shit to talk about than that. We've 3693 02:50:42.559 --> 02:50:44.520 never heard of. You want to talk about a thousand 3694 02:50:44.600 --> 02:50:47.639 years ago. Yeah, we're like, we're never gonna stop. 3695 02:50:47.920 --> 02:50:51.319 I think that God enjoys it when you when you 3696 02:50:51.440 --> 02:50:54.680 seek him. And I think that like Jonathan right here saying, 3697 02:50:54.719 --> 02:50:56.120 you know, he's not a Christian or anything like that, 3698 02:50:56.319 --> 02:51:00.639 but he does appreciate the view. I think that God 3699 02:51:00.799 --> 02:51:03.719 looks at him, probably with tremendous favor, just because it's 3700 02:51:03.799 --> 02:51:07.280 like if you created all of this, and and then 3701 02:51:07.319 --> 02:51:09.760 you're looking to mankind and like there are there are 3702 02:51:10.440 --> 02:51:11.840 some of them don't even seem to give a shit 3703 02:51:11.879 --> 02:51:14.239 about knowing what created is most of them, Yeah, most 3704 02:51:14.280 --> 02:51:16.440 of them don't give a shit about anything that's going on. 3705 02:51:16.520 --> 02:51:18.239 They don't, they don't seem to want to know. And 3706 02:51:18.280 --> 02:51:20.920 then there are people like us who are chasing this 3707 02:51:21.079 --> 02:51:24.719 constantly and constantly having to readjust and reassess and check 3708 02:51:24.760 --> 02:51:27.159 in on our old beliefs and do they make sense anymore? 3709 02:51:27.200 --> 02:51:28.040 Do they hold water? 3710 02:51:28.600 --> 02:51:32.239 And I just think if that was me and I 3711 02:51:32.399 --> 02:51:34.840 created this and I kicked it off every time I 3712 02:51:34.920 --> 02:51:37.000 saw one of them light up with like what the 3713 02:51:37.079 --> 02:51:38.760 fuck is going on here and start. 3714 02:51:38.600 --> 02:51:40.719 Thinking, I'd be like, what's grow Let's true. 3715 02:51:41.040 --> 02:51:43.920 So I just want to say that there is no 3716 02:51:44.120 --> 02:51:46.440 part of me because I think that I've found the 3717 02:51:46.520 --> 02:51:49.280 truth that looks at like Jonathan or somebody like Jonathan 3718 02:51:49.319 --> 02:51:52.920 as lesser. I look to you like, there's my homie 3719 02:51:53.079 --> 02:51:55.200 also trying to figure this shit out, and that's what 3720 02:51:55.280 --> 02:51:56.680 we're called to do, I think. 3721 02:51:57.319 --> 02:51:59.280 So I'm kind of glad you're doing it that way 3722 02:51:59.280 --> 02:52:01.239 because I'm like, if I'm missing something and you find it, 3723 02:52:01.360 --> 02:52:02.440 like fucking tell me, dude. 3724 02:52:02.719 --> 02:52:04.959 Yes, Well, I also appreciate its something. 3725 02:52:05.079 --> 02:52:07.879 I also appreciate that there didn't there's nothing but fucking 3726 02:52:07.959 --> 02:52:09.920 time while we're here to be figuring this stuff out 3727 02:52:09.959 --> 02:52:10.559 in the first place. 3728 02:52:10.639 --> 02:52:11.639 Like it's not a race. 3729 02:52:12.000 --> 02:52:14.360 I mean, who knows I could get to eighty five 3730 02:52:14.440 --> 02:52:18.079 years old and be like, holy shit, the Nephelum Death 3731 02:52:18.120 --> 02:52:22.040 Squad and Jacob fucking got had figured out way long ago, 3732 02:52:22.120 --> 02:52:25.520 and for some reason it took me sixty seventy eighty 3733 02:52:25.639 --> 02:52:27.719 years to get to this point. Like I think that, 3734 02:52:27.879 --> 02:52:29.520 you know, and if you want to talk about God's grace, 3735 02:52:29.600 --> 02:52:30.280 that's it right there. 3736 02:52:30.920 --> 02:52:31.120 Yeah. 3737 02:52:31.520 --> 02:52:32.399 Yeah, And let me tell you. 3738 02:52:32.639 --> 02:52:35.799 I hope that I can still be unraveling mysteries at 3739 02:52:35.879 --> 02:52:39.360 eighty five years old, if I'm still having beautiful epiphanius 3740 02:52:39.479 --> 02:52:42.239 moments where things are being revealed to me and it's 3741 02:52:42.280 --> 02:52:44.639 making something else make sense, you know that, feeld. I mean, guys, 3742 02:52:44.680 --> 02:52:47.799 we're all conspiracy theorists, right, you know that feeling when 3743 02:52:47.879 --> 02:52:50.440 something happens and you go, this is the fucking this 3744 02:52:50.600 --> 02:52:52.520 is the thing, and this makes this make sense, and 3745 02:52:52.559 --> 02:52:54.600 it's it's all about like connecting these dots. It's really 3746 02:52:54.639 --> 02:52:56.879 like an adrenaline rush. If I can still have that 3747 02:52:57.079 --> 02:52:59.360 at eighty five years old, if God is still revealing 3748 02:52:59.440 --> 02:53:02.520 things to me about his creation that far into the future, 3749 02:53:02.680 --> 02:53:04.479 I that's gonna be awesome. 3750 02:53:04.639 --> 02:53:07.680 How awesome? How awesome is it that an epiphany is 3751 02:53:07.799 --> 02:53:09.680 even a thing? You know what I'm saying? 3752 02:53:09.799 --> 02:53:11.840 Like, just in general, like the the way that we, 3753 02:53:12.000 --> 02:53:14.840 you know, are our brains light up whenever certain things 3754 02:53:14.879 --> 02:53:17.000 seem to align like it is, and then. 3755 02:53:16.959 --> 02:53:20.479 The board system right, it's like it does something. It 3756 02:53:20.559 --> 02:53:22.719 stands all the hairs up on your body and you 3757 02:53:22.840 --> 02:53:26.799 feel like energized. And because you connected it to dots, 3758 02:53:27.000 --> 02:53:29.879 it's almost like it is like a neural like neurological 3759 02:53:30.280 --> 02:53:33.760 like synapses, like as if you are creating new passageways. 3760 02:53:33.799 --> 02:53:35.120 You know, they say like, oh, every time you think 3761 02:53:35.159 --> 02:53:38.479 of a different way, there will be an electrical connection 3762 02:53:38.600 --> 02:53:41.959 between one neuron and another and it creates a new bridge, 3763 02:53:41.959 --> 02:53:44.479 a new pathway of thinking. And I go, maybe that 3764 02:53:44.639 --> 02:53:47.719 sounds like NASA shit, but okay, it almost feels like 3765 02:53:47.760 --> 02:53:50.000 you can feel that happening in those moments where it 3766 02:53:50.040 --> 02:53:53.440 feels like a little like neuron just bridged a path 3767 02:53:53.559 --> 02:53:55.920 to another one and connected some giant spider web. 3768 02:53:56.159 --> 02:53:56.360 And I. 3769 02:53:57.959 --> 02:53:59.920 Eight five. The way this shit's shaken out, I don't 3770 02:53:59.920 --> 02:54:00.719 know anymore. 3771 02:54:01.040 --> 02:54:03.120 I know next year is tops. I'm like looking past, 3772 02:54:03.239 --> 02:54:05.239 not the next couple of weeks. But I just want 3773 02:54:05.280 --> 02:54:06.920 to say thanks before we get out of here, because 3774 02:54:07.479 --> 02:54:09.520 that I feel like what we're talking about now is 3775 02:54:09.639 --> 02:54:12.360 the idea of why we're here to look into these 3776 02:54:12.399 --> 02:54:14.559 things and figure them out, and you guys, in no 3777 02:54:14.719 --> 02:54:19.600 small way, have helped us do this full time. So yeah, 3778 02:54:19.680 --> 02:54:23.280 you've been instrumental. Unfortunately you've played a part in creating 3779 02:54:23.319 --> 02:54:26.079 this shit show. But yeah, man, I think that's you know, 3780 02:54:26.440 --> 02:54:28.280 everybody should be looking into. And I know people have 3781 02:54:28.360 --> 02:54:30.639 circumstances and shit to do in their life that like 3782 02:54:30.719 --> 02:54:33.000 the real world. We've just been lucky enough that this 3783 02:54:33.159 --> 02:54:35.159 is kind of become in our real world. And you know, 3784 02:54:35.360 --> 02:54:37.840 thank you guys for setting us on that path. We 3785 02:54:38.920 --> 02:54:39.920 really appreciate and. 3786 02:54:40.239 --> 02:54:42.760 A few people out there who don't understand, like why 3787 02:54:42.799 --> 02:54:46.719 do you look at these things? It's like I'm the smallest, 3788 02:54:46.959 --> 02:54:47.879 most surface level. 3789 02:54:48.079 --> 02:54:50.920 This is the most entertaining shit in the world. To me. 3790 02:54:51.399 --> 02:54:54.319 Netflix couldn't write it better. It doesn't matter what Hollywood 3791 02:54:54.360 --> 02:54:57.000 producer cranks out of film. It doesn't hold a candle 3792 02:54:57.120 --> 02:54:59.239 to reality if you look at it through the right lens. 3793 02:54:59.479 --> 02:54:59.799 And so. 3794 02:55:01.639 --> 02:55:04.920 Even if everything I believe fell apart tomorrow, I wouldn't 3795 02:55:04.920 --> 02:55:08.600 stop digging because it's still the most interesting shit on earth. 3796 02:55:09.479 --> 02:55:11.399 Yeah, it definitely is. We're living in one of the 3797 02:55:11.639 --> 02:55:15.799 craziest movies. If we are all collectively fucking tripping our 3798 02:55:15.840 --> 02:55:18.079 balls off right now, or even the idea that we 3799 02:55:18.159 --> 02:55:20.840 all died in twenty twelve and our life is actually 3800 02:55:20.959 --> 02:55:23.440 just flashing before our eyes and we're not actually existing 3801 02:55:23.479 --> 02:55:26.239 in the right moment. Like going back to the Matrix movie, 3802 02:55:26.280 --> 02:55:29.440 this spoon's not really there, like it's still it's fucking 3803 02:55:29.520 --> 02:55:31.760 awesome looking back at all this. If that's the case, 3804 02:55:33.479 --> 02:55:36.319 absolutely bro. So if you guys, oh I'm sorry, go ahead, 3805 02:55:36.520 --> 02:55:38.760 Oh good, No, I was gonna say, if you guys 3806 02:55:38.799 --> 02:55:41.559 would tell all of our cult members where they can 3807 02:55:41.639 --> 02:55:43.879 find you and all your work, and you guys are 3808 02:55:43.920 --> 02:55:46.280 the shit man, and so any cult member that's listening 3809 02:55:46.360 --> 02:55:48.760 to this highly recommend you guys go check out the 3810 02:55:48.799 --> 02:55:49.719 Nephlum Desk Squad. 3811 02:55:49.799 --> 02:55:50.719 But how would they do. 3812 02:55:50.879 --> 02:55:53.760 So, there's actually open applications right now. If you are 3813 02:55:53.799 --> 02:55:55.479 a cult member, you can do both. You can be 3814 02:55:55.559 --> 02:55:59.280 have dual citizenship, you could become a dangerous retard. Follow 3815 02:55:59.399 --> 02:56:03.079 us at Nephlim Desk Squad nephlim D Squad. We actually 3816 02:56:03.120 --> 02:56:06.440 take submissions if you've got crazy stories. Nepholm d Squad 3817 02:56:06.479 --> 02:56:08.159 at gmail dot com. We'd love to hear from you. 3818 02:56:08.239 --> 02:56:11.959 We do an episode every week called Chronicles. He yeah, 3819 02:56:12.000 --> 02:56:14.159 neflinm Disquad on all socials, follow me if you like 3820 02:56:14.239 --> 02:56:17.840 ship posting on Twitter, top lops, I'm on Instagram two 3821 02:56:18.280 --> 02:56:21.559 and Tower Gang. This is the most offensive podcast ever made. 3822 02:56:21.799 --> 02:56:26.040 You guys were at the at the second show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 3823 02:56:26.079 --> 02:56:26.559 we just showed. 3824 02:56:26.600 --> 02:56:30.239 You didn't realize how unhinged Tower Gang really got. I 3825 02:56:30.319 --> 02:56:33.680 didn't realize the lore goes back to the four Chan days. Yeah, yeah, 3826 02:56:33.719 --> 02:56:34.159 it's wild. 3827 02:56:34.399 --> 02:56:36.280 It's a it's a rough show. 3828 02:56:36.479 --> 02:56:38.280 Not for the Fate of Heart. We showed Dick at 3829 02:56:38.360 --> 02:56:40.040 Brohemian Grove that. 3830 02:56:40.280 --> 02:56:42.600 Was that was also wild. Dude, y'all were out of 3831 02:56:42.680 --> 02:56:43.319 pocket for that one. 3832 02:56:43.360 --> 02:56:45.079 Well, let me tell you something, right, we got the 3833 02:56:45.120 --> 02:56:47.920 pictures on the screen for like ten fucking minutes, dude, 3834 02:56:48.040 --> 02:56:48.760 because it was art. 3835 02:56:48.879 --> 02:56:51.360 Okay, you just could deprive the people of art. It 3836 02:56:51.440 --> 02:56:52.040 was incredible. 3837 02:56:52.399 --> 02:56:54.879 I just want to say, yeah, Neflim Desquad on all platforms. 3838 02:56:54.959 --> 02:56:57.559 But I hope you guys will come back. We are 3839 02:56:57.639 --> 02:57:01.479 throwing another Brohemian Grove probably in about April, I would 3840 02:57:01.520 --> 02:57:06.719 say eventually eventually, and we are I believe we're turning 3841 02:57:06.760 --> 02:57:10.200 it into a two day event because last time it 3842 02:57:10.319 --> 02:57:12.879 was Brohemian Grove, but you can say the two days 3843 02:57:12.920 --> 02:57:15.360 were starkly different from one another. I think the first 3844 02:57:15.440 --> 02:57:17.399 day is going to be Brohemian Grove and the second 3845 02:57:17.440 --> 02:57:19.440 day is going to be a tower Gang event called 3846 02:57:19.520 --> 02:57:20.280 Rapa Palooza. 3847 02:57:22.600 --> 02:57:25.719 Oh god, yeah, if you got. 3848 02:57:27.200 --> 02:57:30.559 It's going to be at the same location, I think so. Anywait, David, 3849 02:57:30.799 --> 02:57:32.559 if they like T shirts, that's what I do for 3850 02:57:32.639 --> 02:57:34.879 my main business. But uh yeah, I'm a T shirt producer, 3851 02:57:34.920 --> 02:57:37.760 graphic designer top loopsa dot com very offensive stuff. I 3852 02:57:37.920 --> 02:57:39.799 dare you to wear it, basically. I think that's a 3853 02:57:39.840 --> 02:57:42.040 model going forward because it's like you might get punched 3854 02:57:42.120 --> 02:57:43.000 or you might get a high five. 3855 02:57:43.079 --> 02:57:43.840 So go check out. 3856 02:57:43.879 --> 02:57:46.280 You've got a shirt and a hat that says based 3857 02:57:46.479 --> 02:57:49.799 and come pilled, So I mean you know that which 3858 02:57:50.120 --> 02:57:54.079 people buy it? So yeah, catch Nephelin Deskod wherever you 3859 02:57:54.200 --> 02:57:57.920 can and keep an eye out on the show, on 3860 02:57:58.040 --> 02:58:01.840 our socials at David el Corbo on Twitter and for 3861 02:58:01.920 --> 02:58:04.079 announcements for Brohemian Grove. I hope you guys will come 3862 02:58:04.120 --> 02:58:06.639 back because I would love for you guys to be 3863 02:58:06.680 --> 02:58:08.399 a part of this thing going forward. I think we're 3864 02:58:08.399 --> 02:58:11.920 building this really awesome community and it was so good 3865 02:58:11.959 --> 02:58:13.920 to do it with you last time. So you guys 3866 02:58:13.920 --> 02:58:15.879 always have an open door, and I mean we'll be 3867 02:58:15.959 --> 02:58:18.639 knocking soon to try to schedule you guys if you'll come. 3868 02:58:19.040 --> 02:58:21.319 Yeah, man, we appreciate that, and you guys, anytime you 3869 02:58:21.360 --> 02:58:23.559 guys want to reach out, we are always there for it. 3870 02:58:23.639 --> 02:58:26.440 And definitely we will be at the next Brohemian Grove. 3871 02:58:26.559 --> 02:58:28.559 It was a wild time. Definitely a time that I'll 3872 02:58:28.600 --> 02:58:32.040 never personally forget. But but yeah, we appreciate you guys 3873 02:58:34.319 --> 02:58:36.399 seriously to put the pieces of my life back together 3874 02:58:36.440 --> 02:58:37.079 in a parking lot. 3875 02:58:37.360 --> 02:58:40.159 Yeah, I'm still trying to grab little little pixels of 3876 02:58:40.280 --> 02:58:41.920 reality to try and make a fucking picture. 3877 02:58:41.920 --> 02:58:42.760 I'm gonna be real with you. 3878 02:58:42.920 --> 02:58:45.479 Hey, And thank god that the boy, the man that 3879 02:58:45.559 --> 02:58:48.159 met the legend of hippie Jimmy, was in the parking 3880 02:58:48.239 --> 02:58:51.200 lot that night, in that critical moment in Jonathan's life. 3881 02:58:51.600 --> 02:58:54.280 Like a wind from the far West, this old cat 3882 02:58:54.399 --> 02:58:56.879 with a tied I shirt comes up as a post 3883 02:58:57.520 --> 02:59:00.879 DMT Shirpa to just calm the way I'm just saying. 3884 02:59:00.879 --> 02:59:03.440 It was an experience. The entire Brohemian Grove is wild. 3885 02:59:04.000 --> 02:59:08.200 It was a great time and it is a nerve 3886 02:59:08.239 --> 02:59:10.479 wracking thing to try to put together, but it seems 3887 02:59:10.479 --> 02:59:12.760 to crush every time. I think this time, we're gonna 3888 02:59:12.799 --> 02:59:17.040 try to get Tripley and Eddie Bravo to headline. That's 3889 02:59:17.079 --> 02:59:20.319 the goal, that's who we're shooting for. And then there's 3890 02:59:20.319 --> 02:59:22.639 gonna be another headliner the second night, so they're gonna 3891 02:59:22.639 --> 02:59:25.239 be headlining Brohemian Grove the Conspiracy night, and then we'll 3892 02:59:25.239 --> 02:59:26.639 have a different vibe for the comedy night. 3893 02:59:26.719 --> 02:59:27.479 So that's it. 3894 02:59:27.639 --> 02:59:30.920 Guys, go and check us out Nefelind's Death Squad and 3895 02:59:31.120 --> 02:59:33.440 keep an eye out for Brohemian Grove announcements. 3896 02:59:33.760 --> 02:59:36.440 Awesome, man, We appreciate you guys big time. Well look 3897 02:59:36.520 --> 02:59:38.600 all the good cult members out there. If you listen 3898 02:59:38.760 --> 02:59:42.120 to this via podcast, there's a much better way of 3899 02:59:42.200 --> 02:59:43.879 doing it. 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