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Speaker 1: Well, well, happy New Year, or are we still allowed

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to say that, because, like Larry David said, it's only

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allowed like the day after New Year's Day and you

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can't say that. I'm just I'm still gonna say it.

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It's the Fight Preach to Night Recap podcast. It is

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a new year, it is twenty twenty six. I am

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the somewhat competent host TJ. Reeves. Hello to our insider,

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Big Dan Rayfield. I say happy New Year to you.

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Sure here on the point, is it allowed? I mean,

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Larry David, the comedian says no with that funny bit

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on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, HERB is one of my all

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time favorite shows in correct, all respect for me and Larry,

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But yeah, you can.

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Speaker 1: It's we're still within the realm right now on.

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Speaker 2: Them on January fourth, and we haven't really spoken since.

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Speaker 1: The first weekend of the year, so we're underway. There

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are going to be fifty two of these weekends, and

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so this is the first of those, and we're ready

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to recap what Amanda Serrano did in her main event

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in Puerto Rico defending her unified featherweight titles. We also

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had a Japanese world title fight as well.

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Speaker 2: Since last you've got quite a world title fight.

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Speaker 1: But okay, all right, what is eliminator for kaz Ioka.

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We're going to talk about that fight. And then we've

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got some fight news scary stuff with Anthony Joshua that

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and in some other fight news. Thank you for finding us.

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say thank you again publicly to the audience for hanging

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beginning of last week, we put out the Fighter of

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the Year and we put out the Fight of the Year,

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and those are the two pods that are immediately preceding

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this one. So if you don't know what we chose,

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you know what, I'm not going to ruin it. I'm

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not gonna tip it. Go back and listen to both

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of those pods where we had some good debate for

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Speaker 2: They also by the way, DJ, go on my website

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slash newsletter and read my articles. That's correct, all of

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Speaker 1: Candidates, corresponding verbiage from you on the substack. They need

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to be subscribing. They need to be on the newsletter

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as well, keep you up to date. So with all

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the promos out of the way, let's get to business

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and what we do, and that is recap. Let's recap

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the Dizonne MVP Most Valuable Promotions main event and the

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rest of the card that is noteworthy. I defer to

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you on what is or isn't noteworthy. Off of this,

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Amanda Serrano did win and retain her WBO and WBA

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Women's Featherweight Unified titles by virtue of her decision over

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so she could not win the titles. But honestly, I

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saw a couple of clips I read your recap. She

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didn't come close to winning the fight really anyway, Serrano dominated.

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I'm saying that, what are your thoughts in the recap

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Speaker 2: Well, one thing about in terms of the weight situation,

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just couldn't get down all the way to one twenty six.

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And you know, tip of the hat to Amanda Serrano,

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you're seeing wearing my baseball hat. She didn't make a

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big deal about it. She didn't even like care if

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she made it. She didn't take any extra money from

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her because she was very appreciative of the fact that

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Taz had taken the fight on like two weeks. Notice

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not a positive test, but a test that needed more exploration,

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if you will. So she was dropped from the bout

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and Taz took the fight on short notice. She was

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stepping up huge in terms of her opposition. She was

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taken on her first like real serious opponent that people

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would know. She was also, you know, putting her undefeated

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record on the line and in her first ever scheduled

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ten round fight and Sarana.

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Speaker 1: And another thing is she's Puerto Rican and even admitted

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a hero. So you had all that working on, Let's

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go ahead and call it a title fight, and we're

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not going to make a big deal about her being

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slightly overweight? Did I not also read on my Dan

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division higher and was having trouble with the weightcut. That

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was another man of factor. She'd been fighting at like

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one point thirty or even bought a couple times at lightweight.

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the weight cut here on short notice?

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of fights in the featherweight divisions. She fought a while

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back around on her thirty, but she really actually had

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fought her last fights at twenty two. But I don't

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think it was so much about the weight that she

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couldn't make the weight division because she was coming down

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in weight from fighting at a heavyweight. It was more

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walk around close to that weight, So it is a

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struggle if you're taking the fight out of short notes.

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she's she's a real sportsman, sportswoman if you will, wasn't

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making a big deal that it appreciated the fact that

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her opponent showed up and came to fight, and you know,

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Aman has made great money in recent years. She wasn't

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going to try to take from the purse of Teaz

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who's never made you know, you know, fifty cents for

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her fights. Most likely in any event. In terms of Serrano, now,

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she had been the featherweight champion for a long time.

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WBC title because they declined to do sanction female boxing

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matches for more than two minute rounds. That standard, which

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weight class in two years Amanda, because remember any follow

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she kind of guys sidetracked when she ended up going

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into the rematch with Katie Taylor. Remember she took the

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tune up if you will, at lightweight against Stevie Morgan,

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who she blasted out, and then she had the back

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to back fights slightly over the one hundred and thirty

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five pounds limit, challenging Katie Taylor for the undisputed women's

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twenty twenty four one of the most spectacular fights you'll

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then in July they had the third fight, which did

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a pretty bad fight. But nonetheless, she had done the

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two the three fights that were over featherweight. Lost the

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back to back fights to Taylor, and now with that

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behind her, a lot of people questioning, what does Amanda

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Toronto have left? I mean, she's been in a lot

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of tough fights. She's thirty seven years old, and she's

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coming off back to back losses and one of them

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is one of the most grueling, physical, you know, fights

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you'll ever see. Ever, what does she have left now

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that she's back at Featherway. Well, as it turns out,

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against a very game, tough opponent in TAAs who gave

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everything that she had, and I think we'll see more

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from her in the future, she showed that she's still

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got something left. Man in Toronto, she boxed very well,

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her speed was there, her timing seemed on. She was

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in great shape, she was in great spirits, and she

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fought out of a fight, and she had an opponent

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in TAAs who was hungry, just not as talented, not

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as skilled, and obviously taking a big step up. I'm

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sure she learned from that fight, and so it was

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a very entertaining fight. If you ask me, I totally

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enjoyed it. But in the end, the scores were academic.

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I mean, he had Serrano winning seven rounds to three

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on two of the score cards eight rounds to two.

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it was like nine rounds to one. Teas won around

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maybe two. Two judges obviously thought she went three. But

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it was very good entertainment value there was. They never

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said on the broadcasting. You couldn't tell on the replay

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at one point, I want to say around like the four.

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shiner under her one of her eyes was all about

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the fight went on. So I'm not I've never been

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clear one hundred percent of it was a puncher head butt.

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never saw specifically. But that added a little bit of drama,

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there's some belief that this may be the final year

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that she fights, So you posed it. What else is

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out there that challenges her that she hasn't done already?

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Speaker 2: Well, she's made it very clear that, I mean, she

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knows her career is coming to an end. But what

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her big thing is she wants to get the fifty wins.

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So now she's forty eight and four with a draw,

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so she wants to get to the fifty wins, they say,

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and I don't I've never researched it. So this is

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what was said on the broadcast. Hopefully they have some

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researchers that in women's boxing, the record for knockouts is

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thirty two by Christy Martin. I don't know if that's true,

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but anytime you can match yourself with Christy Martin, you're

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in good company because she's one of the female greats

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of all time, so much of the extent that you know,

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a women's Fighter of the Year, and a few years

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it the Christy Martin Award for Female Boxer the Year. Anyway,

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so Serrano wants to get the fifty victory. She's got

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forty eight, and she wants to at least match or

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beat Christy Martin's number of knockouts, which is thirty two.

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And Amanda now is thirty one knockouts. Now it's been

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a while since he's had a knockout. She was going

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for a big time in the fight on Saturday Night.

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to keep her around and not to mention that in

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the featherweight division, and either if there's fighters coming up

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or maybe fighters going down, or if she decides to

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go back up to one thirty or one thirty five,

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because you remember she has won titles all the way

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up to one forty. She is won titles in you know,

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the record for female boxing. I mean in men's boxing,

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of course the record is many packet with eight, but

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in the women's boxing side of the sport, the record

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is seven. And that's Amanda Serrano all the way up

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to one hundred and forty pounds. So there's other fighters

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out there she could fight. You know, she was thrilled

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to go back and have a home area fight in

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Puerto Rico where she hadn't fought for five years or

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remember we talked about it in twenty twenty four. She

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was supposed to have a headliner right where Jake Paul

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she couldn't fight A day later.

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night of the fight. So she was very thrilled to

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the fight easily. Obviously you don't even This was not

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so this was not the typical where you can you

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know that two minutes six flies by. They were still

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showing a tremendous amount of stamina in the tenth round.

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box to stats, Toronto was throwing over over ninety three

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punches in like seven of the ten rounds, over one

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hundred punches and four of the rounds and the fight

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high was in the final round, when you figure you're

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most tired, she threw one hundred and nineteen punches.

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Speaker 1: I have said this for the better part of the

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four years plus that you and I have done this

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going back to twenty twenty two. That she is a

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highly entertaining fighter, got a good left hand, active action fighter.

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I mean, there is everything to like when she goes

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in to fight. I just wonder again, how many more

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times are we going to see her? You think at

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least two, and maybe it's going to be more than that.

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Speaker 2: We'll figure out the time. Unless there's a reason that

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she can't fight. You know, something happens, if there's an injury,

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something along those lines, I you know, or she you know,

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maybe suffers a terrible loss or something like that, a

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dad knockout or something. I have no doubt in my

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mind that she will fight for a while longer until

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she achieves that fifty wins, you know, whether she can

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get to the knockouts or not. She hasn't had a

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knockout in quite a while, but fifty wins is a

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nice round number, and I think that's what motivates her.

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She's not motivated. I don't think she's already won all

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the titles you can win. Like I said, seven weight classes.

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She's the reigning champion that featherweight gave up on disputed

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just on a technicality, not because she lost her anything.

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And she has made as much money as any of

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the female.

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Speaker 1: Binds, which is good, so that's not an issue.

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Speaker 2: She's made, you know good seven figures were the last

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several fights, so financially, she's doing very well and happy

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to see that. So you have to find and that's

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just in boxing, but in your life, no matter what

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you do, you have to find something to motivate you.

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She's motivated by getting to that nice round number of

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fifty victories. She's still very good and she can do that,

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and there's still some fights out there that maybe she

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could have. I mean, we'll see. I mean she is

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now stable mates in terms of MVP. Remember she's the

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twenty six pound champion, Bomb Gardner's the thirty pound champion.

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That could be a fight we could see in the fish.

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I mean, there's there's plenty of good women out there

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that she can match up with, and you know she's

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gonna be able to call the shots because she's basically

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against anybody in boxing in terms of female fighting other

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than a Katie Taylor. Let's say you know her in

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and around her weight classes. She's the A side anyway,

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So she can call the shots, and I'll look forward

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to seeing her again because, like I said, I've never

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been the hugest women's boxing fan, although it has grown

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on me in recent years. But there's a handful of

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the of the women that I definitely enjoy watching. She's

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one of them. Katie Taylor is one of them. I

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love watching Mikaela Mayer. I would love better to watch Claressa.

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She had real opponents in front of her, but there's

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lots of talented women out there and she's one of them.

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Speaker 1: All right. So rest of the card lightweight Stephanie Hahn

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victorious fighting Holly Holme. Holly Holm had been on the

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previous MVP show I know in June in Anaheim. I

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was there for that. She's obviously had a decorated MMA

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career as well. Tell me a little bit about that fight.

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And then there was another men's fight involving the Puerto

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Rican fighter Bamba Gonzalez as well. So what else from

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the undercard?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Stephanie Hahn was the She is the women's

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WBA lightweight champion and she won a seven round technical

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decision against Holly Holm. Now, Holly Holme, I think to

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Most people that follow combat sports know her more for

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being a star and a former champion in the UFC.

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She had went to mixed martial arts. She hadn't boxed

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since two thousand. She won This is back, you know,

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a generation ago as far as women's boxing goes in

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the in the twenty teens, she won world titles in

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four weight classes in women's boxing. That was at a

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time where it was not nearly as organized it as

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it is now. The sanctioning bodies as we know them

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didn't all necessarily have women's divisions. There were some other

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sort of scattershot, you know, sanctioning bodies, and nobody really

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considered like you're a world champion or not a world champion.

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Nobody really knew if there was even world champions because

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there was such a limited amount of competition. But nonetheless,

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she had a heck of a career as a as

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a boxer. She went to MMA, she found start and

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made a lot of money, made a lot of big fights,

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was a champion.

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Speaker 1: We do know this. She has the all time moment

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in terms of females in AMMA because she kicked Ronda

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Rousing from a knockout. That is still a Meme like

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years later direct with what she did with her feet,

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but now she had to come back to the sweet

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science and only use her padded fists.

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Speaker 2: Right, So she hadn't fought as a boxer since twenty thirteen.

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She signed with MVP. She's forty four years old, so

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it's not like she's a young woman in combat sports anymore.

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And she came back and had her first fight with

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MVP earlier in the year, and now she's getting a

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title shot against Stephanie Han, who is an MVP fighter also,

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like I said, she has a lightweight title, and I

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think a lot of people thought Home would be the winner.

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Han is not most not the most experienced woman, hasn't

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fought a lot of top opposition. She's thirty five. She's

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not exactly, you know, a young fighter either. She was

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undefeated now she's twelve to zero after the victory, only

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three knockouts. But anyway, she outclassed Holly Hoolms. She like

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she started off slowly, Holly, I don't know. I thought

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she won maybe the firs or her second round, her

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both and then from there on once once Hans sort

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of got her her because she idolized Holly Holm you know,

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I think she was kind of starstruck, to be honest

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with you, those first couple of rounds. But once she

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got her her her wits about her kind of settled

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in a little bit. Uh, she looked really really good.

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I mean, she has a very solid right hand. That

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was her calling card. She relied on that. She kept

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clipping home, uh with that good counter shots and and

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basically out hustled her, out fodder, outpunched her, and Holly

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even in the in the interview after the fight was like,

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you know, I thought I would take her into the

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deeper rounds. Keep in mind they were also fighting with

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three minute rounds, uh, instead of the two minutes that

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are the standard for women. And uh, she realized, you know,

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you can't do that, and things happen, and they had

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a head butt in the seventh round, and uh, it

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was kind of in the forehead area. It wasn't like

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on an eye, but the blood was just coming down

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her face. And I mean, I'm no doctor, I'm not there.

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It didn't look I mean, I've seen a million cuts

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in boxes. Didn't seem that bad. But obviously the doctor

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and the reference then right there, they thought it was

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enough to stop the fight. They went to the scorecards

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and it was really no contest. It was sixty nine

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sixty five, sixty nine sixty four and sixty eight to

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sixty five. Home did not complain. Clearly a victory for Han.

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This a coming out party victory for her, if you will.

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Was on a somewhat of a higher profile card for women,

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and it was her first sort of real name recognized opponent.

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And I thought Hans thought a hell of a fight.

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And you know, they talked about a rematch afterwards, because

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the way it was cut short, you never want to

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see a fight like that. Han was like, we can

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do it in now Passo, which is where she from.

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She said, we can do it in Alburquerque, which is

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where Holly is from. And you know, I don't know

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the answer to this, but I suspect MVP. I can't.

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I would imagine I'll do the rematch. I mean, we're

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also these there's no bigger fight for either of these

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women at the moment, right and doing than having a

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second fight with each other.

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Speaker 1: And one is Home forty one, forty four.

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Speaker 2: I said she's forty four.

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Speaker 1: She's forty four. Yeah, So I mean the clock is

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ticking and how many more fights is she actually going

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to have. As a point, it's still in shape. But

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as a forty four year old, Yeah, so I would

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think that's logical.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that. You know, in the next fight,

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they'll come back and do an immediate rematch. I can't

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imagine they're gonna dick around and have some other you know,

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nonsense in between. And you know what we talked about,

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what could be for Serrano again, she's the featherweight champion,

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she's fought at lightweight. Maybe there's a Han fight for

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in the future. Maybe there's a Holly Own fight for

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in the future. If Hollywood a winner in match. So,

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you know, they all kind of fit together, especially when

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you take a look at the lineup of the women

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that MVP promotes. They are clearly it's not even the contest.

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I mean, there's there's other good women that are with

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other promoters, but MVP undoubtedly has got the number one

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roster of female boxers in the world. They don't have

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every top fighter. They don't have Katie Taylor anymore. She's

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you know, as she retires, she's obviously still with Mattrium.

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Claressa Shields has resigned with Salita Promotions and the Kayla

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Mayer is with top rank, et cetera. But MVP is

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loaded in the women's side of boxing. You know, this

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card was was well, that was on display because the

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four fights that are on the main card for his

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own were female matches. Now the other one I wanted

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to talk about, which I was kind of disappointed it

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wasn't on the main car because that warranted it. But

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you know, it was free on YouTube, so I watched

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among the preliminaries. That was the match you mentioned between

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Bamba Gonzalez and the Puerto Rican Olympian from two thousand

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and twenty, that is yankiel At Rivera. Bamba Gonzalez was

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a good champion at Junior Flyway, got beat and ended

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up moving up and wait and was kind of considered

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kind of a stepping stone in this position. He's thirty

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four years old, hadn't fought for like, you know what,

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fifteen months or something like that, and here you've got

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Yankielle Rivera, the hot shot twenty twenty four, twenty twenty Olympian,

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I should say, from Puerto Rico, and it's all about him.

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He's you know, he's undefeated. He was coming off of

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a real messy, sloppy draw in his last fight. That

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was for the WBOS at WBA's interim Flyway title. He's

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getting another shot at that against Gonzalez again. They're looking

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at this as a stepping stone. And let me tell

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you something, Bamba Gonzalez is like he's never been the

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most exciting guy in the world, but he's got a

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little swaggered to always kind of liked him. And he

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went out there and he beat the brakes off. Yank

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kill Rivera. I mean, the scores were was close on

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one scorecard, but he basically kicked his assid you ask me,

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I mean he won one seventeen, one ten, one, sixteen,

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one eleven, one fourteen, one thirteen and scored a clear

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cut knockdown in the second round. He put together a

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nice flurry and finished it off with a left hand

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and he knocked him down. Not a hard knockdown, but

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a clear knockdown. And look to Rivera's credit, he got

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up and he came back and he won some of

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those a couple of those rounds in the middle of

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the fight. But in the end, Bamba just more accurate,

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looked like a better puncher. The slicker with his moves

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and he just he taught the younger guy a lesson

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in my mind, and he and he won the interim belt.

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It puts him in good position to get a bigger fight.

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And uh, you know, props to the old man because

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they thought he was gonna lay down and that Rivera

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was going to just walk all over him.

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Speaker 1: And he was. He was.

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Speaker 2: He was the house fighter. Now, Gonzales is close to

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the Sroanto camp. He is, he trains with Amanda, So

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I think that's one of the ways he probably got

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this opportunity because he is, you know, he knows the

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boss if you will. And but he went in there

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and like I said, nothing against Rivera, but he kicked

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Rivera's ass. In my mind it was it was he

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fought a beautiful fight. Gonzales.

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Speaker 1: All right, some good stuff off of Saturday. Now back

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up actually to Wednesday, US time, and that was in

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Japan in Tokyo with his kaz Ioka fight for the

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00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:28,319
WBA eliminator at at bantamweight. Ioka making his debut at

474
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,799
Banham waight. And yet he gets to fight in an

475
00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:31,640
eliminator fight, which is interesting. All right, give me the

476
00:21:32,039 --> 00:21:33,160
recap of what happened.

477
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 2: There, I mean the fact that he moved up in

478
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,079
wait and fight an eliminator not a total shock. Given

479
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,920
his his stature in the sport. He's won titles in

480
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,279
four divisions. I have long considered him to be, you know,

481
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,960
with a very good chance to make the Hall of Fame.

482
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,759
He has won world titles at strawweight, junior, flyweight, flyweight,

483
00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:51,640
junior banhamwaight. There is no male Japanese boxer ever to

484
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,480
win titles in five divisions. With him winning this eliminator,

485
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,279
he now is in position to fight for a title

486
00:21:56,519 --> 00:21:58,039
in a fifth way class, so if he wins it,

487
00:21:58,039 --> 00:22:00,279
that would be a Japanese record. There is a femail

488
00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,039
boxer who has done that, I know in a way

489
00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:05,480
for examples, one titles in four weight classes. But this

490
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,440
was the WBA eliminator. For the title fight, it was

491
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,000
a fighter named mikale or does Gotti and a guy

492
00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:14,880
I frankly had never really heard of, but Ioka. You know,

493
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,200
he was coming off the back to back losses in

494
00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:21,720
tremendous battles with Fernando Martinez that cost him his title.

495
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,160
He stepped up to the next weight class and as

496
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we've talked about he's fighting on New Year's even Japan,

497
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,119
and I think this is one of the most awesome

498
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,839
stats in boxing. He has been a sevent sixteen year

499
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,759
career for Ioka. He has now fought on New Year's

500
00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:38,960
Eve thirteen of those sixteen years. Like that's his date

501
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,680
the way, you know, the top Mexican boxer kind of

502
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,759
claims those dates on Cinco de Mayo and the Mexican

503
00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:49,119
Independence Holiday or the big superstar Puerto Rican has for

504
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,440
the last you know, twenty years or so fought in

505
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,000
New York City on the Puerto Rican Parade Day weekend.

506
00:22:54,279 --> 00:22:57,119
If you're a Japanese star, you know you're fighting on

507
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,079
New Year's Eve a lot of times. And Ioka has

508
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,640
made that date his own. But iokah, he's thirty six.

509
00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:05,319
Obviously as he rises in wait, he's not getting any younger.

510
00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:08,720
He's now thirty four thirty thirty two, four and one

511
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,319
with seventeen knockouts. And he looked good. I mean he

512
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,160
took he took this man out in the fourth round,

513
00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:17,039
and he did the jay. He did the job. I mean,

514
00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:19,400
he did what he was supposed to do. He puts himself.

515
00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:21,799
This is what's interesting about it though, So by winning

516
00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:25,119
the fight, he's now the mandatory for Seyas Tasumi, who

517
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,559
is the WBA's bandon White champion, who's coming off to

518
00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:29,799
win a few weeks ago or two weeks ago against

519
00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:33,119
Nonido Donair who is the INGRAM champion. So he's in

520
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,920
position to be the challenger for its assume's title. But

521
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,039
the fight that he really wants, and I think it's

522
00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:40,359
the fight he's probably gonna get, is to fight the

523
00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:43,759
WBC champion, which is Takuma in a way, Naoia in

524
00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:47,720
a way's younger brother. He recently won that title of

525
00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:49,960
the vacant title. A couple of weeks ago. He was

526
00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:54,079
ringside and in Japan. Ioka against Takuma in a way, well,

527
00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:56,119
I guess be a pretty big deal. So he's going

528
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,680
to get another title shot Aoka. It's just a matter

529
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,440
if they can make the fight with in a way

530
00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:02,359
or if he does he go for the for the

531
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,640
mandatory against assuming in a way, of course, I think

532
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,480
would probably represent more money. But in terms of the

533
00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:11,400
way he won this fight by knockout, he did score

534
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,519
two knockdowns. He knocked him down with a beautiful left

535
00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:15,359
hand to the body, in the second round, and it

536
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,240
was another body attack that put him out, you know,

537
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:20,799
in the fourth round. So, you know, for Ioka coming

538
00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:23,000
off those two losses, moving up and wait, getting the

539
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,119
job done, gets another title shot. And if there are

540
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,359
people out there who are not into Japanese boxing, or

541
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,359
they'd never really paid too close up attention, or maybe

542
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,920
they've only watched the inn a Way fights, you're really

543
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,920
doing yourself a disservice because you can spend you know,

544
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,920
a little time on YouTube, go and look up some

545
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,240
of these great Ioka fights, particularly the Martinez fights, but

546
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:43,680
even look, he's got a litany of great names he's

547
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,480
fought through the years. Go back and watch some of

548
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,160
those Taraji fights. I mean, there's there's there's a lot

549
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,240
of good exciting fighters, mostly in the smaller weight classes

550
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:54,119
that come out of Japan. But they're absolutely worth watching

551
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,200
and deserve some attention.

552
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,839
Speaker 1: And Ioka is mister New Year's Eve, There's no doubt

553
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,799
about that one. Fourteen times on that day, thirteen thirteen

554
00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:06,599
times now on that day. Okay, So let's get to

555
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,519
something serious. Since you and I last talked, we learned

556
00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:16,400
of the situation with Anthony Joshua on Monday fatal car crash.

557
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,119
He was in a luxury suv in Nigeria that had

558
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:25,359
several passengers, two of which were killed. Thankfully Joshua not

559
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:29,759
seriously injured. As it turns out, the driver of the

560
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,240
suv has now been charged essentially with the African version

561
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,000
of the Nigerian version of negligent homicide or vehicular homicide

562
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,799
for the death of the two individuals who are Joshua's friends,

563
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,599
teammates and his training etc. Part of his team. So

564
00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:49,119
Dan pick it up from there as we now go

565
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,359
into this weekend a few days after this has happened.

566
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:53,759
Speaker 2: Just a terrible situation. I mean, if you go back

567
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,799
to just a couple of weeks ago, Anthony Joshua was

568
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:59,319
in Miami, Florida on a high profile event, scoring the

569
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:02,559
big knockout of against Jake Paul and looking forward to

570
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,640
back to be back in the ring probably sometime in

571
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,920
the earlier part of what is now this year, and

572
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,160
setting up a probable fight, a gigantic mega fight for

573
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,839
you know, in gargantuan amounts of money against Tyson Fury.

574
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,400
And he's celebrating and so you know, like every fighter

575
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,480
they have a big win. He took up vacation with

576
00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:23,839
the holidays, and his family is you know, his parents

577
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,440
are from Nigeria. He's obviously Nigerian by his heritage. He

578
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,519
has visited there many times. He has I guess some

579
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,960
family there has friends there. And for his holiday, he

580
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:37,799
went with some folks to Nigeria on a vacation and

581
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,279
as you said, they were in the car on the

582
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,680
highway in outside of Lagos, Nigeria, which is the capital,

583
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:45,599
the biggest city in the country, one of the biggest

584
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:49,839
cities in the entire continent of Africa, and the driver,

585
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,000
I guess was not being the most safe driver in

586
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:55,279
the world and ended up smashing into a stationary vehicle

587
00:26:55,839 --> 00:26:59,359
and base. I looked at there were some graphics that

588
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,839
were put out by some of the news organizations over

589
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,160
there that covered it, sort of like the map of

590
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,839
where they were sitting in the car and the driver

591
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:10,160
and Joshua were driver's side, and then Joshua and the

592
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,000
back's in and the driver's side they lived and the

593
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,359
two other men on the passenger side in the front

594
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,960
and back died. Two of those men that died were

595
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,480
men that were close to Joshua that worked in his

596
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,279
camp as members of a training a strength and conditioning coach,

597
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,279
a man named Sina Gami and a man named Latif

598
00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,039
who's known by everybody as lats who I know, I've

599
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,640
I had met those guys, I'm sure in New York

600
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,920
when you fought Andy Ruiz lats Ayoda Le and very

601
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,359
sadly they were killed. I mean, and there had been

602
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,640
some just like a couple of days I guess before

603
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,160
this happened. If you look on Joshua's Instagram, there was

604
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,920
a video of him. They were, you know, playing games

605
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,400
that there was some video of. I mean, just a

606
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,599
terrible situation to go from the high high of the

607
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:56,559
big victory over Jake Paul, to enjoy yourself on vacation

608
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,519
and suddenly in the blink of an eye, you're in

609
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,839
a terrible crash where you're injured. And by the way,

610
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,039
I also read this in uh one of the wire

611
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,880
service reports that now while Joshua lived and there was

612
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,440
a ton of people that kind of gathered around to

613
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,359
see what was going on, some people helping Joshua out.

614
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,039
He ended up having to go to the hospital and

615
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,319
it was admitted and spent uh you know, like two

616
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,279
days at the hospital. Uh. Nobody ever really disclosed what

617
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:19,119
his injuries were, so we're not i mean clearly not

618
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,880
life threatening and and and not serious enough to keep

619
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,279
him laid up in the hospital for more than a

620
00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:26,880
couple of days. He has been released. Apparently somebody stole

621
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,200
his phone at the scene. I mean, just terrible. But

622
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:32,519
the morning that it happened, social on social media, there

623
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:35,960
was all kinds of film and videos and photos and stuff.

624
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,240
And unfortunately you can't see it like you got Joshua,

625
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:41,279
you know, win saying and trying to get out of

626
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:41,880
the car.

627
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:42,519
Speaker 1: Uh.

628
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: And and there was a video where you just saw

629
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:46,400
that the two men there's a guy that were that

630
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,720
were dead on the street on the road.

631
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, right there. It looked like they had been ejected

632
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:50,519
from the vehicle.

633
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:50,759
Speaker 2: Ye.

634
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,319
Speaker 1: All right, So boxing we understand this is secondary, but

635
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,839
is it your understanding from whoever that you've talked to

636
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,200
he's not seriously hurt. So now there's gonna be some time,

637
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,839
you know, obviously grieving, mourning, whatever, and then we'll figure

638
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,400
out whenever he can re emerge. But as we know,

639
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480
coming off the weekend, as far as we know, not

640
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,119
seriously injured in this accident, even though they evaluated him

641
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,200
for a couple of days in the hospital, right, it

642
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:15,799
certainly has.

643
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: Some Listen, you don't you're not going to stay in

644
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,680
the hospital for more than, you know, just an observation period.

645
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,119
If you didn't have some type of injury. Now I

646
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,720
don't know what it is. I'm not going to speculate.

647
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:29,119
But while it was obviously not something that threatened his

648
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,480
life because two days later he was released from the hospital,

649
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:33,519
there must have been some type of injury to keep

650
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:35,880
you in the hospital for two days. Now, I have

651
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,119
no idea what it is, whether it's an injury that

652
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:41,039
would have any impact whatsoever if he decides to fight again.

653
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,640
I have no idea if it was something that perhaps

654
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,359
could affect this potential of an Xbox match. You know,

655
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:48,279
it could be anything, could be a knee at a shoulder,

656
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:51,519
you know, who the heck knows an ankle. I mean,

657
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:53,200
it's just you know, and you know.

658
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,599
Speaker 1: Big bigger is the mourning and mentally these are that's

659
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:57,920
the biggest thing. That's the bigger thing.

660
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: And what you got if you got released in the hospital,

661
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,200
that means he's good. Whatever the injury is, he's going

662
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:04,359
to recover from it. But now you got to deal

663
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:07,359
with the mental aspect, which is, you know the guy.

664
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,920
First of all, it was two of his close friends.

665
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:13,119
Second of all, you gotta have thoughts to yourself about

666
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,839
your own mortality because just by apparently based on the imaging,

667
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:19,160
you know, the images of the charts of where the

668
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,400
men were sitting, basically you picked the seat in the car.

669
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,960
And the reason you're so alive is because of where

670
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,400
you sat, having nothing to do with anything other than

671
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,400
just you know, I guess, just you know.

672
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: The randomness of sitting behind the driver's side is the

673
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:34,920
reason why you possibly lived.

674
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: And then these two guys, by the way, who died.

675
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,839
You know, among the people that knew the team and

676
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,599
knew the team Joshua and have been around him, all

677
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,480
the folks at Matchroom Boxing and Anthony Joshua's team very

678
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:49,279
very well liked people, very high held the highest team.

679
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,839
I'll give a shout out to MVP, to Nikisa Badarian

680
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,480
and Jake Paul. You know, obviously they were they were

681
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:58,559
competitors when they fought each other, Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua.

682
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,000
But on Saturday night at the fight that Jake Paul,

683
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,599
people at MVP put on in Puerto Rico. You know,

684
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,599
they have a ton of sponsors and all this stuff

685
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,160
on the ring that, but they were thoughtful enough to

686
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,400
put a nice you know. I mean it's it's just

687
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,880
a nice gesture. You know, basically, I think it's you know, uh,

688
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:17,920
a memory thing that that put both of the men's

689
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,920
name of Gammy and Uh and lats on the on

690
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,559
the ring mat to just you know, show UH some

691
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,279
sensitivity and and basically like, hey, you know, Anthony, Joshua

692
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:30,119
and may be competitors, but I you know, we're all

693
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,720
people here. I got your back and show thoughts with you.

694
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,640
And they showed I mean, listen, there's a lot of

695
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,799
things I'm boxing and art classy. Okay, Uh, that was

696
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:40,920
a classy move. So props to the folks at MVP,

697
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,640
whoever's came up with the idea, who ever decided to

698
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,519
do it. And Uh, I thought it was well executed.

699
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,759
It wasn't over the top, It didn't come off as

700
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,880
like anything that was sort of kind of cringey. It

701
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,880
was just like a nice thing to do, like a

702
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,519
notion of solidarity with Joshua, who, by the way, I

703
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:58,799
must say like and I can't say I'm like Anthony

704
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,759
Joshua was best friend or anything. But I've met Anthony

705
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:03,680
Joshon on a number of occasions. I've been in his company,

706
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,039
I have interviewed him several times. To me, he's just

707
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,920
a class individual. He's a very humble, a nice guy

708
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,440
to deal with, uh, polite, uh not not a not

709
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,240
a guy that's gonna that that that says a lot

710
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:20,079
of doesn't really ever say bad stuff about his opponents.

711
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:22,160
I've always thought he was professional, the way he dealt

712
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,079
with media members.

713
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

714
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,119
Speaker 2: He's well liked, is the point. And so that's what

715
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,799
makes us even tougher. It's one, you know, not that

716
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:29,880
you root for anybody to have these terrible things happen,

717
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:32,680
but if a guy's an asshole, you know, you maybe

718
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,759
feel bad about it, but it's not doesn't doesn't kind

719
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:37,440
of continue in your mind for a day after day afterday.

720
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:39,200
I've been thinking about this for days because I know

721
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,440
what a good duty is and I feel so terrible,

722
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:42,960
uh for what happened.

723
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:43,759
Speaker 1: Awful thing.

724
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully you can get over it, you know, and see

725
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,279
what Hopefully.

726
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll wait in the days and weeks ahead

727
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,319
to fire out about that. All right, So now to

728
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:54,359
a lesser degree. You mentioned the name Tyson Fury, and

729
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,279
Tyson Fury's back at it again saying I'm not retired,

730
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,839
which we're not shocked by. But let me just pose it.

731
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,720
All right. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, the possibility of a

732
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:07,160
Joshua fight is off the table now for a few months.

733
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:09,720
Do you think that Tyson Fury is going to fight

734
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,720
somebody else? Speculate what do you think?

735
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: Look, I first of all, it is my understanding that

736
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:19,480
if Joshua and Fury were going to fight, it wasn't

737
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,759
going to be until the second part of the year. Okay,

738
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,839
So again this is all dependent upon boxing is secondary obviously,

739
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,000
so we understand that. But we're a boxing podcast. We're

740
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,400
going to talk about boxing if and when Anthony Joshua

741
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,680
decides to return to the ring, presumably with a clean

742
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,279
bill of health after whatever his injuries may have been

743
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:41,759
in the car accident with with a heavy heart, but

744
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:43,960
a clear mind because of what happened to his friends,

745
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:46,960
and he's going to fight again. It was it wouldn't

746
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,200
be in probably until septemberish anyway, So the plan always

747
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,079
was assuming that that Fury was going to come out

748
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,519
every time, which everybody believed anyway, was that they were

749
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,359
going to have fights in the first part of the

750
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,519
year and then fight each other in the second part

751
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,400
of the year. Obviously, Anthony Joshua ain't fighting in February,

752
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,000
like was being discussed. That's definitely off the table. Is

753
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:07,880
it possible that he did, you know, he got into

754
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,280
six rounds against Jay Paul. I don't think it's out

755
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,199
of the question that if he does decide to fight again,

756
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,719
it'll just forego whatever the tune up supposedly would be

757
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,280
and to go right to September. I don't know that

758
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,760
for a fact.

759
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking after this, especially after this, if you

760
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,039
do want to fight on, why take the risk?

761
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,599
Speaker 2: Now? With Tyson Fury, he's been out of the ring

762
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:27,559
now since the second Usik fights, so he didn't fight

763
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:31,119
at all in twenty twenty five. The second Fury fight

764
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:32,840
was at the tail end of twenty twenty four, so

765
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,280
he'll have been out of the ring for you know,

766
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,119
year plus. So I do think that if he does

767
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:38,960
go forward and there is a fight with Joshua, he'll

768
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,519
definitely fight. And in terms of his h deciding to unretire,

769
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,360
we spent a lot of time discussing in the previous

770
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,440
weeks about what we thought about do we believe the

771
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:52,239
Terrence Crafter is retired? And I used the example of well,

772
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,320
this was not Tyson Fury getting off the couch and

773
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,800
making an Instagram video for thirty seconds. This was Crawford

774
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,880
and his people putting together a highly produced, slick video

775
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,119
for five plus minutes and narration and the whole nine yards.

776
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,480
The exact opposite with Tyson Fury announcing is on retirement.

777
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,119
He went and he did a He didn't even make

778
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:10,719
a video to my knowledge. It was just I saw

779
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,400
the text underneath a picture of him in the gym,

780
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,360
or maybe there's a video of him hitting them in

781
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,039
the bag in the gym. He's been putting up some

782
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:20,400
training videos on his Instagram and he wrote like the caption,

783
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,920
you know, twenty twenty six is the year the Return

784
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,960
of the mac. Been away for a while, but I'm

785
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,239
back now, thirty seven years old, still punching. Nothing better

786
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,000
to do than punch men in the face and get

787
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,360
paid for it. So Tyson Fury is out of retirement.

788
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,519
And by the way, it's it's it's less shocking than

789
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:38,760
the sun rising. And you know, so the fact that

790
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,719
he's out of retirement is not in any way surprise.

791
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,280
All right, we just need to know, now, what's the

792
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,000
planner you're gonna fight, you know sometime over the next

793
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:49,400
few months, are you are you coming back because you're

794
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,360
actually gonna sign up to fight Joshua? Should Joshua return

795
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,119
to action. But even if he doesn't fight Anthony Joshua,

796
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:00,760
let's say having Tyson fury back is an active heavyweight

797
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,599
to me is good for boxing. He brings a lot

798
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:05,760
of attention, love or hate him. He gets eyeballs and

799
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,800
he's been entertaining fighter to watch. You know. He gets

800
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,320
knocked down, he scores knockouts. He has a lot of

801
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,800
you know, craziness around him. So he does make a

802
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,159
big event. And by the way, there's other heavyweights out

803
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:17,440
there that if he wants to fight somebody other than

804
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,480
Anthony Joshua could make an interesting matchup with.

805
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: Stay tuned on that. A couple more news items. Mattroom

806
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,719
has announced a signing and it relates to an upcoming

807
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,000
fight the first week in February. Tell me more about

808
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,679
Christian Medina and that fight and the Matchroom deal with Medina.

809
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:41,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Medina a Mexican fighter. He had won the title

810
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:43,440
by a fourth round knockout. I remember he went he

811
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,920
was on This was when not Noia in a way

812
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:50,079
fought AKMADALIAV. This is back September fourteenth, the day after

813
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:54,239
Canelo versus Crawford in Japan, and he won his fifth

814
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,039
fight in a row. He won the title. He scored

815
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:57,679
a fourth round knockout against.

816
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: Will Clarify the WBO banham Waite.

817
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,079
Speaker 2: The w b O Bandonmoit title. He won that belt

818
00:37:02,199 --> 00:37:05,400
by a fourth rond knockout against Yoshiki Takai. Look good

819
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,280
in that fight. And now is signed with Mattroom Boxing

820
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,480
and they within like a few I mean, I consider

821
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,639
it like the same announcement. They put up two separate

822
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:18,039
UH posts on their social media handles that a that

823
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:20,000
medina you know, welcome to the team. You're you know

824
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:22,679
you've signed with Mattrium. I think it's co promotion with

825
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,679
box Stars, which Mattroom works a lot with when they

826
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,800
do UH their events in Mexico. But the other part

827
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,800
of it was that not only did he sign with Mattrum,

828
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:33,679
but he's gonna have the first title defense in his

829
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,760
hometown of Guadalajara. Mexico, same hometown as Canelo. February sixth

830
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,880
will be one of the Mexican shows that Mattrium does

831
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,719
on his own and he's going to take on the

832
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,119
former IVF Junior Flyway Titlelder obviously has moved up a

833
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:48,960
little bit in wait, that's Adrian Curiel. Uh, and that

834
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,880
will be his first defense. And that was that was there.

835
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,800
They're signing their news of the weekend that took place.

836
00:37:56,639 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: All right. Uh. There's also a situation with Liam Harrow

837
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:04,679
who is supposed to be fighting for the IBF in

838
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,559
the IBF for the welterweight eliminator fight in a couple

839
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:11,920
of weeks, but his opponent, Patty Donovan, is now out.

840
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,000
So what is going on with Donovan and can they

841
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,679
find a replacement and save the fight for Parro because

842
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:18,760
you still have a couple of weeks to.

843
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: Go, right, Well, that was that was the thing. I mean,

844
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,840
they were supposed to fight January sixteenth on a no

845
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,599
limit boxing card. It was the co feature on a

846
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:30,000
show they're doing in Brisbane, which is Paro's hometown, and

847
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:35,280
this was to determine the mandatory challenger, you know for

848
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,920
the IBF Junior welterweight title, which that title presently is

849
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,760
held by Richardson Hitchins. But Patty Donovan at back that

850
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,000
it pulled out of the fight. I take that back.

851
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:47,800
That's Hitchins is the junior welter right Jaman. This was

852
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,119
the IBF welterweight too welter bat Anyway, Patty Donovan had

853
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,159
had the opportunity to fight for that title. Remember he

854
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,840
lost in the rematch against Lewis Crocker, who won the

855
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,280
vacant belt. So this was a fight that would have

856
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,599
determined the mandatory for Crocker, either another fight with Patty

857
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:07,039
Donovan or the opportunity for Paro, who had been the

858
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:09,320
IBF title holder in the lower weight class, to now

859
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,639
challenge for the title in the welterweight division. In any event,

860
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,239
not a total shocking thing in boxing that a guy

861
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,599
got sick and had to pull out of a fight.

862
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,199
Paro said, he he he he. He felt that Donovan was,

863
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,920
you know, full of it, that he never really wanted

864
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,840
to smoke, so to speak, and didn't want to do

865
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,159
the fight.

866
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Obviously, it is interesting when you're saying I'm sick two

867
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,440
and a half weeks before a fight. There These are

868
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,679
common the week of the fight. A couple of days

869
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,440
before the fight. I'm sick. I can't fight two and

870
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,480
a half weeks before just strikes me. I'm just talking

871
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,760
about in general as suspicious. Well reason for suspicious.

872
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you read the statement that

873
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,719
came out from the Donovan team, Donovan's perspective was that

874
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,039
a He's very disappointed to withdraw from the fight, big

875
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:49,599
opportunity to get another title shot, and that he was

876
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,159
h you know, he had missed three weeks of training

877
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,639
due to illness, and that Andy Lee, who was his trainer, said,

878
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,360
you know what, we're not fighting, so sometimes it gets

879
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,760
taken out of the fighter's hands. I mean, I guess

880
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,800
if he said I'm really gonna do this, you know,

881
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,599
you can go against the trainer who doesn't have the

882
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:06,239
final say. But you're the reason why.

883
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,159
Speaker 1: You have to keep hearing everywhere. And I've stayed away

884
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:11,920
from the bug. Supposedly the super flu is going around

885
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,039
the holiday time. Yeah, but man, if you're sick for

886
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,960
like three weeks, that's like the super duper flu or

887
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,280
the super He was.

888
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: On his deathbed, but you might not have felt well,

889
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:24,679
you have trouble now, you know, can't can't. I could

890
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,400
if we were feeling that we can do a podcast,

891
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,039
but we wouldn't be in the gym or.

892
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: Trying to punch or get punched. I agree with you, so.

893
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: Listen, I mean the fight got the fight is often

894
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,239
the no limit.

895
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:37,679
Speaker 1: May find somebody for Parow or if they scraped the

896
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,159
whole thing.

897
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,039
Speaker 2: No, they said he'll stay on the card if they

898
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:42,480
can find a suitable replacement. The problem is if he

899
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:43,920
stays on the cart, it's not going to be an

900
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,719
IBF eliminator because they'd have to get somebody that was

901
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,320
next in line in the ratings. So Paro probably doesn't

902
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,599
want to waste the probably the month two months that

903
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:53,760
he's put in to his training. We'll see what happens.

904
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,000
But that was a nice match up between you know,

905
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,880
two lower lower top ten is type welterweights.

906
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:00,519
Speaker 1: Uh.

907
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: And life will go on, but you know it's a bummer.

908
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,360
We want to talk about my boy, your Jake Paul

909
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,039
note on there, besides what happened with Josh.

910
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well we're going to talk about some WBA news,

911
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,719
So why don't we get to this. So Jake Paul

912
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:19,239
is no longer ranked by the WBA in the cruiserweight division. Correct,

913
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,239
So he's been dropped completely out of the rankings.

914
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, and that was good because they put their

915
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,679
new rankings out when the you know, around New Year's

916
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,000
and it just they This is the the ridiculousness of

917
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:35,039
the WBA, more so than just about any organization out there,

918
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:37,079
even though we can find warts with all of them

919
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,280
about this and that, whatever you want to talk about,

920
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:41,719
the fact that they even put Jake Paul into the

921
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,400
rankings at number fifteen in the Cruiser redivision in the

922
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,320
first place, was an abomination against humanity, Yes, because he does.

923
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,559
I mean that's not enough.

924
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: Abomination against humanity is a little strong abomination against the

925
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:56,400
ranking system of boxing, which is corrupt anything.

926
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: By my thing of abomination against humanity, he did not

927
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:03,360
long in anybody's rankings. Jake Paul. Again, I have respect

928
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,880
for what he's done. I give him props for the

929
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,199
braver he showed to get in the ring and even

930
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,480
even be willing to fight against Anthony Joshua. But the

931
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:12,599
reality is to be a ranked fighter, you have to

932
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,440
beat somebody, even it doesn't even have to be a

933
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,960
star or a big name, somebody with some level of

934
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,800
competence and he hasn't been anybody. You know, He's beaten

935
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:28,840
two unknown inactive boxers above their best weight easily. And

936
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,639
that's what's a few fights ago. And the other fights

937
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:35,159
that he fought against Mike Tyson was in the heavyweight division,

938
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,960
right the fight against Anthony Joshua, which obviously caused the

939
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:40,119
drop because he got knocked out, and it was also

940
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:42,480
in the heavyweight division. And then I don't you know,

941
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:45,719
the victor against Julio Caesar Chavez. You know you're not

942
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,039
going to get ranked off that nonsense. So on the

943
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:50,800
one hand, they should never have put him in the

944
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,920
rankings in the first place, and then on the other hand,

945
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obviously they had to drop out of the rankings after

946
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what happened against Anthony Joshua.

947
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Speaker 1: All Right, So speaking of the WBA, that was one

948
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belt that Terrence Crawford had not vacated in his announced retirement.

949
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,119
He's now done that, correct, He's notified them.

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Speaker 2: According to the new WBA rankings, the WBA welterweight title

951
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,559
or super middleweight title, rather than Terrence Caarvert held was vacated.

952
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,599
I know they had been in communication with his team. Gilberta.

953
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:21,639
Mendoza had said that to me, whether he sent an

954
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:24,639
official letter or not. Reality is he retired. He'd already

955
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,880
been stripped by the WBC, he had vacated the WO

956
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,239
and the IBF, and now he was the only one

957
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,840
that he still had that he hadn't gotten around to.

958
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,599
I guess to make it official, was a WBA that

959
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,079
was vacated. And as soon as he vacated the title,

960
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,840
the WBA then elevated the interim title holder, Armando Rizendez, who,

961
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,840
if you remember, scored that because he won that interim

962
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,519
belt because of the massive upset that he scored by

963
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:52,719
winning against Kayleb Plant earlier in twenty twenty five. So

964
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:57,840
the upshot here is new WBA super middleweight champion, the

965
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,159
derice of dick heads and boxing community. We'll say he's

966
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:05,199
an email champion. And Terrence S. Crawford has now not

967
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,480
only announced his retirement, but he has vacated all of

968
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,719
his titles and he's now comfortably in retirement. And so

969
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,039
now it's a matter of how all these organizations fill

970
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:17,320
the title. So, like I said, the WBA has elevated

971
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,440
Rezenda's presumably as they always like to do, and drives

972
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,119
me absolutely fucking crazy, is they'll probably have an interim

973
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,199
title fight somewhere along the line to make a new

974
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,000
fake title and in the IBF which was vacated by

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00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:32,239
Terrence Crawford. Also, they didn't order the fight. The way

976
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,639
they went about it, and this is not unusual is

977
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,280
they go down the ratings to see if the two

978
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,639
boxers that they contact are willing to fight each other,

979
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,639
and if so, then they ordered the fight and then

980
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:43,960
they have a period of time to make a deal

981
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,840
and if they don't, lolad our purse. But so the

982
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,480
invitation to participate went out, a lot of outlets reported

983
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,400
it as though the fight was ordered. That was not correct.

984
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:53,519
Like I said, they sent out a notification.

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00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: This was more like the Bachelor, Will you accept this?

986
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: Ruw Exactly here's what you're sing The IBF number one

987
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,519
contender is the very dangerous Ostley's Iglesias, who's a badass.

988
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,000
He's been fighting out of Canada on the eye of

989
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:08,199
the Tiger cards. And the next guy who was available

990
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:10,760
in the rankings was Canelo Alvarez. So they sent an

991
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,519
invitation to both camps, are you willing to participate in

992
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:17,159
negotiations to fight for the vacant IBF title. The Iglesias

993
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:20,840
team was immediately. They don't care who they're fighting. Could

994
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,639
be Canelo alvas could be King Kong, whoever, they'll take

995
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:27,559
the fight. Canelo Alvarez they declined it on his camp,

996
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,840
not because he's afraid to fight somebody, but because he's

997
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,679
not going to fight according to Eddie Renoso, his trainer

998
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:35,199
and his manager until the latter part of the year,

999
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,800
because he's still recovering from the elbow surgery, that he

1000
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,280
wouldn't be ready to go into the ring in the

1001
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,079
next couple of months anyway. So now they'll go down.

1002
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:44,840
So now Canelo has told them no apparently, and they'll

1003
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,960
go to the next guy on the IBF rankings, which

1004
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:50,039
happens to be I'mian Mungia. So we'll see. Mongie will

1005
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,679
have a few days or whatever to notify once he

1006
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,639
gets the official letter from them, whether he's interested to

1007
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:58,400
participate in the negotiations. If he is, they'll go through

1008
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,360
the process. If they can't make a deal, there'll be

1009
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,400
a purse bit. If he says no, they'll move on

1010
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:04,960
to the next person in the ratings. Uh. And that's

1011
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,800
how uh that IBF title we feel. But you can

1012
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,519
bet your bottom dollar that one half of that vacant

1013
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:13,920
title fight will be Oslius Iglesias, a badass.

1014
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,039
Speaker 1: Where just real quick, before we go, where does Christian

1015
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,360
Mobilly fit in in the IBF rankings. I'd love to

1016
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,079
see him get a title shot for one of these.

1017
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,280
Is Crawford vacated? All them go ahead.

1018
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,639
Speaker 2: Mcbilly is not in the rankings because he is the

1019
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:28,719
holder of the WBC's interim title.

1020
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:33,599
Speaker 1: But he had the draw correct in the fight on

1021
00:46:33,639 --> 00:46:35,599
the Cala winder card, so he's the likelihood that he

1022
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,719
would rematch the fighter that he had the draw with

1023
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,599
that was one of the fight of the year.

1024
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: Canis that was already I think they already determined they're

1025
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,679
not doing it. They're not going to mcbilly has the uh.

1026
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: He has the interim WBC belt, so they'll find him

1027
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,199
another fighter in the WBC rankings. Do I have that

1028
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:49,960
somewhat straight?

1029
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: Right? Although imagine he's in an optional period right now

1030
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,239
because he just fought in September and Amanda uh in

1031
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:55,719
that fight.

1032
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he fought an interim fight that nobody won.

1033
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,039
Speaker 2: Right, but he's but he retained the title.

1034
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,639
Speaker 1: Oh he was the interim champion. Yeah, Okay, all right,

1035
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:05,800
I got you, so you keep me straight on all

1036
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,639
of this. What we do is the w the one

1037
00:47:08,679 --> 00:47:11,079
hundred and sixty eight pound belts are scattered, and now

1038
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:13,159
they got to figure out who's going to be the champs.

1039
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: If you look at my chart where I keep a

1040
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,960
list of like all the I mean, I haven't published

1041
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,679
a new one, but in my own if you came

1042
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:21,639
into my office and looked in my spreadsheet I have

1043
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,400
the WBC, would all of us.

1044
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: Come into your office and see your spreadsheet? If you

1045
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:26,599
have it on the substack, we would see it. If

1046
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:28,800
you know, how would any of us come into your

1047
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,880
office and see your chart.

1048
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say to you is every so

1049
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,360
often I send out I update that and I send

1050
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,119
out a champions list. Yes, of all the title. I

1051
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:38,960
haven't done it in the last you know, several weeks.

1052
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,079
I know, but I'm looking at my chart that I

1053
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:43,639
keep so when I produce it it's up to date.

1054
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:49,039
So I'm looking at my spreadsheet. WBC, WBO, IBF Super

1055
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:52,639
Middlewight titles are vacant. Armando Rizendez has been elevated. He's

1056
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,199
now the WBA champion, and Christian and Billy gets the

1057
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,280
asterisk as the WBC's interim super middleweight champion because use

1058
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:04,920
when Crawford was stripped. I had this discussion with Mercier

1059
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,920
sue much. They opted not to simply elevate the ability

1060
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,199
to the full champion. They're going to order a fight

1061
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,440
for him to fight where he would have to defend

1062
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,440
it and become the champion. It just hasn't happened.

1063
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: For whatever.

1064
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 2: They're doing it a little bit differently.

1065
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:21,079
Speaker 1: And we'll see what the IBF does and we and

1066
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,199
we wait for all of that. All right, busy show,

1067
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,960
well done on all of this. We've got the recap

1068
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,239
there of of the Serranto fight. We're often rolling again.

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00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,719
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1073
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:47,239
We always love that we've gotten twenty twenty six off

1074
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,960
to a new start, my friend, another year for you

1075
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,599
and me getting this underway talking the sweet science, and

1076
00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:54,920
I think people have grown accustomed to it. I know

1077
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,119
we did not have a preview pod because it was

1078
00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:00,960
New Year's Day, New Year's night and the aftermath of it.

1079
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,760
So maybe some people thought they were Jones and they

1080
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,840
needed a fix. But now we're back. We're back on

1081
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,719
the pod feed with the recap pod and we we

1082
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,239
just wanted to tell that to the audience there.

1083
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: We got by the way, just so you know, just

1084
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,639
to back up a quick second, because I just said,

1085
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,079
slip my mind. My Billy was ordered at the convention

1086
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,920
of the WBC to enter negotiation with Hamsa Sharraz for.

1087
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: Yes, we talked about that again, and sign me up.

1088
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,159
If that's the fight. If that's what happens.

1089
00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:31,159
Speaker 2: Now, who knows that that would be a very good fight, obviously,

1090
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:31,960
but who knows.

1091
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: If that's gonna happen, then we have good things. Stay tuned,

1092
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,760
Stay tuned on Mobilly and what happens with him. He's

1093
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,679
an action fighter and defeated, and Shara's off that big

1094
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,079
knockout of Drew Berlanga. Stay tuned. Other than that, I

1095
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:46,719
think we're good, my friend, have a good week. I

1096
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,480
appreciate it. As always in the New Year, there's big

1097
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Dan Rayfield on the fight. Preach Unite, Substack, I am

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