WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:03.960 Karen. Yes, what if I told you that our next 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:05.919 guest can see things that we can't. 3 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:07.559 Oh, that would be very cool. 4 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:09.599 What if I told you then that she's able to 5 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.320 communicate with non physical entities. 6 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:14.800 See, now that makes a difference, because without my glasses 7 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:17.039 I really can't see much. That wouldn't be saying a 8 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:19.800 whole lot. But clarification is kep. 9 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:21.239 That's a very good point. Yeah, I'm so sorry, But 10 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:24.039 non physical entities, spirit GUIDs and even loved ones who've 11 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:24.440 passed on. 12 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:25.559 That's fantastic. 13 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:27.719 I thought you might be interested. So you see, apparently 14 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:30.320 when we struggle with something, we're too close to the 15 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:32.759 issue to really see it. Because we exist in this 16 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:36.600 illusion that we call life, we're missing the obvious, and 17 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:39.159 because we're caught in the vibration of the problem, the 18 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:41.520 answer is always going to keep slipping through our fingers. 19 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:45.039 Oh well, that's where our guest comes in and her guides. 20 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:48.240 They don't just see things differently, They see everything from 21 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:52.039 the highest perspective. They can pinpoint the root cause of 22 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:55.960 any issue and more importantly, give us actionable steps to 23 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:58.399 rectify it. Wow, does this not sound like the kind 24 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:01.039 of guidance we could all use. Oh I'm telling you, 25 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:04.680 wait a minute, You're not wrong. But I don't like 26 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:06.000 when I'm getting called out like that. 27 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:07.239 Well, I'm intrigued. 28 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:09.359 I no, Karen's intrigued. So if you are intrigued, to 29 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:11.640 stay with us as we dig deeper into how our 30 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.799 guest today taps into this wisdom to reveal what's hidden 31 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:18.000 and how she helps others move forward with clarity. On 32 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.640 this episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is Will, and, 33 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.719 unlike moulderin Scully, want to believe. So we've embarked in 34 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:27.879 a journey of discovery. 35 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:30.519 We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and 36 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:31.400 metaphysical world. 37 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:34.280 We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. 38 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:35.599 I even joined a coven. 39 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:38.680 Of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep. 40 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.439 All on the interest of finding something, anything that will 41 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:43.879 prove that there's something beyond this physical. 42 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:45.239 Three dimensional world we all live in. 43 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:50.719 This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. 44 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.000 Hey there, I'm Will and I'm caring, and today we 45 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.319 have the privilege of hosting Christy Levy, who uses her 46 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:08.280 intuitive spiritual gifts to connect to those on the other 47 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:12.080 side of the veil, whether it's past loved ones, spirit guides, 48 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:15.960 or even the White Light itself. She brings through messages 49 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.159 and information about an individual's life path. Those that come 50 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.159 through from a non physical realm come forward to share 51 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.199 their perspective and help us to see the truth of 52 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.960 any situation. I am thrilled to welcome her to the show. Christy, 53 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:29.879 good to see you. 54 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:33.240 Hi, Well, Karen's great to see you. Thanks for having 55 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:33.520 me on. 56 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:34.960 Well, thanks for coming. 57 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:37.879 It is an absolute pleasure. We have heard so many 58 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.800 great things about you, Christie, So no pressure, but we're 59 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:42.800 expecting great things a lot. 60 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:45.599 Oh no. 61 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:49.319 So in the teas and in the show open, I 62 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.599 talked a little bit about what you do and how 63 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.879 you do it. But there's a distinction because you do 64 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:59.039 a lot of things right. You are a spirit medium. 65 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:02.240 You're also a roto coach. You do a lot of things, 66 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:06.520 you channel different things, you tune into different things. So 67 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:11.199 who exactly is Christie in two minutes or less? 68 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:15.879 Two minutes or less, Well, I have the alphabet soup 69 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.479 of psychic ability. This is what I always say. None 70 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:21.639 of it showed up in my life until I was 71 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:25.159 about fifty five years old. So two years ago for that, 72 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:30.919 I was rather corporate, working in that type of environment, 73 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:34.680 a mom raising kids, Middle America, that sort of thing. 74 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:39.560 And I started meditating a lot, taking courses from Gary 75 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:44.360 and Joshua, and as I did, my perspective raised raised. 76 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.800 I kept doing the work, and all of a sudden, 77 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:50.919 little things started to happen. I started seeing things in 78 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:54.879 my periphery. I realized that it would be a very 79 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:57.879 long story, but that I had some sort of communication 80 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:01.560 with those that had transitioned. That was something I didn't 81 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.080 even really believe in. I saw mediums and I thought 82 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:10.080 they were fake. That's not true, there's no ways. Yeah, 83 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.319 I mean I was really in the last five years, 84 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:18.879 I have eaten my words more than I care to say, 85 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:21.959 because I didn't really believe in it. Yeah. 86 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:23.639 Yeah. The good thing you slim because you were able 87 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:25.879 to eat a lot of that stuff. 88 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.519 Yeah. So, and then over the course of the last 89 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:34.680 couple of years, that ability showed up some clairvoyance, clear sentience, 90 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:40.120 clear audience. Then I started to channel just a group 91 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.680 that I had been communicating with privately, thinking it was 92 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:47.079 just my own way of seeing something. And I named 93 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:50.480 them the White Light. And there's a reason for that. 94 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.360 But I was just communicating with them and never thought 95 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:57.519 about bringing them forward to speak, And so then that 96 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:01.639 started happening, and that now who I am. I'm the 97 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:06.199 weirdest person in the world. Yeah, it was the last 98 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:07.120 thing I wanted to be. 99 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:10.240 Yeah, the coolest person in the world. All right, right now, 100 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:12.480 I need to call something out because you mentioned Gary 101 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.720 and Joshua, and for those that aren't in the know, 102 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:18.319 you are actually the partner of Gary Temple Bodley, who 103 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:21.360 was on our show a few weeks ago. We ended 104 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:24.360 up splitting into two parts because there was so much 105 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:27.959 coming through, and in fact, he channels Joshua, which is 106 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:31.079 a group of non physical entities that provide a lot 107 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.759 of wisdom. And when we talked to him at the end, 108 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:35.439 he's like, oh my god, you have doctor Christie. So 109 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:37.319 here we are, and we're glad that we did. 110 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:41.439 I met Gary because I found his channeling Joshua. I 111 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:43.959 had listened to Abraham Hicks for a long time and 112 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.439 loved them, love her. Was just looking for something else, 113 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.519 and I've found Gary and Joshua took his boot camp. 114 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:53.560 We became friends. When all of this stuff started happening 115 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:57.680 with me. He was instrumental and helping me just bring 116 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.839 it forward, not be afraid of it. He poked and 117 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:04.600 prodded and talked and so and then since then we've 118 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:07.040 created a bunch of courses together, and then we have 119 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.240 our podcast that we do together. 120 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:12.759 Well, so we hear a lot of different stories from people. 121 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:16.120 Really they had an accident or some sort of traumatic 122 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:18.879 event that caused their gifts to open up. But it 123 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:22.480 sounds like you were more intentional, Is that right? 124 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:27.920 Well, I didn't intend for these intuitive gifts to show up. 125 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:32.720 I assumed I wasn't psychic, didn't care, wasn't sure that 126 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.519 how much I really believed in it, And it wasn't 127 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:39.199 even something I was looking for. I thought there were 128 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:42.839 a handful of channels in the world Gary included that 129 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.240 didn't interest me that much. So it wasn't intentional. I 130 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:50.720 was just on a spiritual path and I was meditating, 131 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:53.759 and I had other things. Most people come to this 132 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:59.160 work to try to fix something, to make their lives 133 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:03.399 better in some way. Something isn't working, nothing's working, whatever 134 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.040 it happens to be. My life was great, but I 135 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:08.639 just knew that there was more and that it could 136 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:11.560 be better, could be better. So I started doing the 137 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.800 boot camp and meditating and reading, and in doing that 138 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:20.040 work all the time processing those limiting beliefs, my perspective 139 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.040 went up and up. Or my vibration, I consider them 140 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.560 to be one and the same, just went up and 141 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.800 up and up until all of a sudden these things occurred. 142 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:33.240 I believe everyone has them. We are all psychic, We 143 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:36.560 all have intuitibility. Perhaps some of us might be a 144 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:40.319 stronger medium, some might be stronger at clairvoyance, others at 145 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.920 time stamping or other things that are out there. But 146 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:47.759 we all have them, and more than one. It's just 147 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:51.600 simply that our vibration, our perspective, because we're still in 148 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.439 a lot of fear and control, there's no point in 149 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.839 it really showing up. So it doesn't. Mine just showed up, 150 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.839 and I fought it. I really wasn't. I thought it 151 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.040 was nuts. Yeah, we hear that a lot. 152 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:03.680 Yeah. 153 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:07.800 In fact, some of us are stronger at older, strong older. 154 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:10.079 Come on, Karen's of the jokes. 155 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:12.079 There is a joke in there. 156 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:15.879 Yeah, okay, right, I get it. Well, I thought you 157 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:21.600 were talking about because I do get vibrational smell sometimes. 158 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:22.920 With that is exactly what I mean. 159 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:25.480 Yes, it is recovery. 160 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:29.680 Actually, there is is a clear audience. 161 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:34.639 No, that's is knowingly I don't know what the one 162 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:37.919 with the noses. I didn't tell you, And it doesn't 163 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:41.320 happen all the time, but it's happened enough that I'm 164 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.519 aware of it. And I'll get a very strong smell 165 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:47.919 and say, Okay, is that smell curry? Is it Indian food? 166 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.559 And then the smell will go away because that means 167 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:52.720 I got it right. When I get it right, it 168 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:53.240 goes away. 169 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:56.279 And in fact, as I was researching you for the show, 170 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:58.799 I did watch a video we talked about this right 171 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:02.200 before we start recording your smelling chocolate chip cookies. I 172 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:05.120 would love to have that power. Just I'd be channeling 173 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.120 all kinds of grandmas, just like it smells. 174 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.600 Yeah, it's really interesting that I don't really understand exactly 175 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.120 how it works, but I find that most of the 176 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:17.879 and I don't mean to be callous when I say this, 177 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:20.120 but I call them the dead people. I don't really 178 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:22.799 know how else transition loved ones or I don't know 179 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.759 that just if you knew me really well, you would 180 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:28.159 go that does not sound like her. Yeah, would I 181 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:30.279 talk to the dead people when when they come in, 182 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:34.039 they'll use anything they can to get something across to me, 183 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:38.080 and they use what I will recognize. If they want 184 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:40.919 to have me, say, chocolate ch cookies. I may not 185 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:43.039 get a visual of a chocolate chip cookie because that 186 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.080 might not register for me. I might just not even 187 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:49.639 notice it. But an overwhelming smell in a wait, I smell, oh, 188 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:52.360 I smell a cake. Nope, still not going anywhere, and 189 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.279 it goes what is that is it? Cookies? Chocolate chip cookies? 190 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:58.840 And then it's gone. So then I'll say it out 191 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:01.480 loud to the person, So chocolate chip cookies, because I 192 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.159 know that's right. So they't use anything that they can. 193 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:06.559 And our old house that we moved out of, every 194 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.639 once in a while with then Senna's room, i'd walk 195 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:11.480 in there, our daughter's room, and I could have the smell. 196 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:14.279 It was like cumin or bio. It was just like 197 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:16.039 everyone's in a blue man. And it's when she was, 198 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:17.559 even when she was little, so I know it wasn't her. 199 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:21.240 Right right. It's funny, but most people, like we're just 200 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.039 talking about you have some sort of intuitive glip that 201 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.759 is not something that will recognize in that room. But 202 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:30.960 you did several times you just blow it off. Well 203 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.279 that's weird. What does it smell? And you just blow 204 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.159 it off? Or maybe you look for some dirty laundry 205 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:38.600 but you're not paying attention, so you let it go 206 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:41.399 and move on and it just doesn't see me. If 207 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.799 I smell something, I stop. Okay, that's weird. What is that? 208 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:47.000 What's going on? Just learn to do that. Now. 209 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:50.919 That's really interesting because Karen has a bionic nose. She 210 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:55.000 could smell a strawberry five miles down the road. It's incredible. 211 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:56.759 It's a blessing and a cur Yeah. 212 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:59.960 I'm like that too. I walk in the house, something's 213 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.720 wrong in here, right. That may be a way that 214 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:07.000 your spirit guides or transition loved ones try to communicate 215 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:08.840 with you, and you can pick up on it. You're 216 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:13.480 intuitively sensitive enough in that area that you think it's 217 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:17.320 your physical nos but it's not. It's just this everything vibrational. 218 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.840 It's just this vibration that you're picking up on, and 219 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.519 it is in the form of smell. Is how you 220 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:26.600 recognize the vibration because it doesn't have a sound or 221 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:27.240 a light. 222 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:28.440 I told you it wasn't me. 223 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:33.840 I know it wasn't you. 224 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.279 You talked about the white light. Now, the first thing 225 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.799 that comes to mind when someone says to me, the 226 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.360 white light, and I'm assuming a lot of people are 227 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.679 thinking the same thing is when you die, you go 228 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:48.840 to the stay away from the lie parly right, the 229 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:51.159 white light. Are we talking about the same white light 230 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:52.440 that you were connecting with? 231 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.559 I have no idea. I was in a meditation shortly 232 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.600 after these intuitive gifts began to show up for me. 233 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.039 I was having a meditation and in my meditation, I 234 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:06.559 was speaking to Joshua, who has a been my teacher 235 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.120 for a long time, and sometimes I would talk to Abraham. 236 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.799 My eyes are closed in a meditation, and they were 237 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.200 this huge. It looked like a chorus maybe, but this 238 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:19.639 huge group, this council, all different entities, right, some human, 239 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.759 some centaur, all these different things. And I'm just looking 240 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:25.559 at him, going wow, this is cool. And I said, Hey, 241 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:27.600 if I opened my eyes, could I really see you? 242 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:30.840 And they said sure, And I was afraid to was no, 243 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:32.840 because I was seeing all kinds of things at that point. 244 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.159 I was now, I don't want to I'm good. Yeah, 245 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.279 And they said, well that's okay. We're just here to 246 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:40.759 introduce you to your next teacher, and they just pulled 247 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:43.720 back this curtain and it was just this massive bright light. 248 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:46.440 But my eyes are closed so I can stare right 249 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.840 into it, or it wasn't a real light I was looking. 250 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:50.559 I was just in meditation and it was just this 251 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:54.120 beautiful white light. So I said, oh, white light. 252 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:55.399 Hi, right. 253 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:58.960 And for almost a year, nine months, I just talked 254 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.159 to them privately or I would. You can hear old 255 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.000 podcasts where I'm telling someone, well, I have this teacher 256 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.000 and I call him my white light teacher, and they 257 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:09.840 said this, and it's this dropped the mic moment. That's 258 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:13.240 who they are. And it just took time. I started 259 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.879 out just translating what they were saying, and then eventually 260 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.799 Gary was recording and we were doing that and I 261 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.039 just went out, we don't really know how it happened, 262 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:25.559 like Edgar Casey style, And they spoke with Gary for 263 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.279 a couple of hours while I was just completely passed out. 264 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:29.279 I didn't remember any of it. 265 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:30.240 Oh wow. 266 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.360 And for those who don't know, Edgar Casey was a 267 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:34.840 sleeping prophet, right, he would go into a trance and 268 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:38.039 his secretary would take notice. He channeled things while he 269 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.200 was in a sleeping state most people know, but just 270 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:40.639 in case I. 271 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:42.840 No, yeah, great, yeah, I wouldn't have thought of that. 272 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:45.480 I didn't know who Edgar Casey was. Because when it 273 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:49.200 was over, Gary laughed and I opened my eyes and 274 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:51.360 I said, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I fell 275 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:53.799 asleep on you. You have all this equipment set up, 276 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.000 and I was laying my head on the back of 277 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.000 the couch and he looked at me and he said 278 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:00.639 sleep because he didn't know I was past. You thought 279 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.279 my eyes were just closed. And I didn't know any 280 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:05.080 of it. So we have this whole recording and we 281 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.120 were able to figure out when it started because you 282 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:10.320 can hear me start to giggle and then I go down, 283 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:12.919 and that's what would happen. So we did that for 284 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:15.519 a long time. I would just go out. I learned 285 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.519 how to just relax into it, and then I would 286 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:20.000 just pass out and they would speak for a long 287 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:23.720 time with Gary, and then eventually White Light actually taught 288 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:25.679 me how to do it where I could stay awake 289 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.919 and I'm not there, but I'm there. So that is 290 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.879 the White Light. We've asked them hundreds of times who 291 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:34.440 they are, and all they say is we are the center. 292 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.720 That's all, they'll say, Ah. 293 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:40.799 That's actually pretty flipping cool. Yeah, I'm just gonna put 294 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:42.200 it out there. I think it's pretty cool. 295 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.440 It's cool. Yeah, it's cool. They'll say we're the center 296 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.440 of you. And if you ask it, say are you 297 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:48.320 the center of me? And they would say, yes, are 298 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.519 you the center of that cactus? Yes, they're just it's 299 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:52.240 really funny. 300 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.399 So when you first started communicating with them, did it 301 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:57.240 feel like it was your own thoughts or was it 302 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:01.639 a very distinct different voice or type of wording. How 303 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.120 did you know it was someone different? 304 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:08.120 The visual for me in meditation gave me a whole 305 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:12.679 sense of them, so I had a feeling of vibrational sense, 306 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:18.279 sort of a warmth about it, and definitely a slight 307 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.799 difference in the cadence too. It's not the same cadence 308 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:25.559 as my thought. To me the way that it comes 309 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.759 and they speak to me in a lot of different ways, 310 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:34.279 So they'll send moving pictures, still pictures, blocks of thought 311 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:37.360 that I sort of have to decipher, streams that are 312 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.240 full sentences. So there's lots of different ways that the 313 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.399 information comes in that I can sort of sense. And 314 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:48.480 they're just always there, They're always right up to my 315 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.000 one two o'clock. If I had a clock around me 316 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:53.799 right up there and they're always there. When I go 317 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.879 to channel them, I just do my connection and close 318 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:58.840 my eyes and I can feel it. They say, I 319 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.440 go to them, I feel it like that. 320 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:04.639 Well, they would probably say that you are. They're the 321 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.600 center of you. So you're just going inside within. 322 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:10.360 That, right They say, yeah, the center, Yeah we are 323 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.600 you right? Okay, that's just tough for me because I 324 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:17.080 don't trust myself. I have to think it's something outside 325 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:21.240 of me before I would trust to answer some questions. 326 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:22.759 I like I mentioned, I watched a couple of the 327 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.480 videos of you doing a meadiership session with people and 328 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:28.039 then you are scary good. So when someone reaches out 329 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:31.320 to you to set up a session with you, how 330 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:33.240 much do you know about the person before you start? 331 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.480 Because some people ask birthday and that kind of stuff. 332 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.120 What kind of question do you It depends. 333 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.519 Some people that I read for I know very well 334 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:44.399 as you can imagine, with their friends. They're in the community, 335 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:47.519 so I know a lot about them. But if it's 336 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:50.679 a stranger, which about half of what I do, maybe 337 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:52.960 a little more than half, is with people all over 338 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.679 the world, I will have first name. Sometimes they'll give 339 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.960 me their first and last name, and usually an email 340 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.000 address because they have to put that in. And that's it. 341 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:05.640 I don't know anything, and most of them, believe it 342 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.160 or not. I do more for people out of the 343 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.319 country than I do people that are in the US. Wow, 344 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.279 So it's I just missed be more popular in other countries. 345 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:17.960 I just had this question popped into my head. Does 346 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:20.240 the white Light ever just talk directly with Joshua? 347 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:23.920 No? Isn't that I know? Funny? Wouldn't that be interesting? 348 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:28.400 Joshua ripped on white Light sometimes it's really funny. But no, 349 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:33.640 they collaborate, but the collaboration is always through Gary and I. 350 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:38.720 And we've never done a channeling session where I'm out 351 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.680 channeling white Light and he's He's not fully out, he's 352 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:47.319 sort of translating with Joshua. And people have asked us 353 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:50.400 to do it, and he's not been really interested in it. 354 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.039 I don't really know what would happen, and it would 355 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:53.519 be good fun. 356 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:57.200 It might be like matter and anti matter coming together 357 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:00.640 and destroying the universe were weird. 358 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:02.359 Yeah, I don't know. 359 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:07.079 We do collaborate, Yeah, it would last for two weeks. 360 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:11.400 But here's what I wonder, because I feel like the 361 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:15.880 curiosity in a sense, really comes from us here in 362 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:19.640 three D. We are the ones who want to know. 363 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:23.680 We have forgotten, we're in this illusion of separation, and 364 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.319 we want to know how to get where it is 365 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:29.480 we want to go. And so all of the questions, 366 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:35.000 all the curiosity comes through us. And when White Light answers, 367 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:36.920 if I have a question in my mind and they 368 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:41.039 pop in, it's so instant the answer is instantaneous. The 369 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:46.720 same with Joshua that there's just a knowing there. So 370 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.240 without us as intermediary is asking the questions and then 371 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.759 formulating these answers and letting it flow, I'm not sure 372 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:56.480 the two of them would have much to say to 373 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:56.960 each other. 374 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.200 Yeah you know, in fact, I know exactly how it 375 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:02.240 goes when we go dude, want to go? 376 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:12.960 Yeah yeah, yeah cool? Right right right yeah yeah yeah. 377 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:15.519 We do this asking. And I say it all the 378 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.880 time that when people thank me for you know, you 379 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:21.279 changed my life, they say these things, are you changed 380 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:23.920 my life? Or thank you so much for doing the 381 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:26.880 white Light thing, whatever it is, And I laugh because 382 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:31.119 it's those people that give me the space to do it. 383 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.720 I'm not really doing it for anyone else. I'm doing 384 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:37.920 it for me. I'm not doing it to save the world. 385 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:41.799 I'm not. All of their questions are what pulls that 386 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.039 through me? When I do a medium reading for someone 387 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:48.359 who doesn't have a lot of asking, and I'm not 388 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:50.559 really sure. They're just doing it, maybe for a party 389 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:53.160 trick or something. They just think it's cool and they 390 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.599 want to do it. It's like sucking up milkshake through a 391 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.880 little tiny stirstraw. It's so difficult, and I'm pulling and 392 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.640 pulling and pulling and trying to get this to come through, 393 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:10.519 and it doesn't. The asking is from those people there, 394 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:14.599 that's where it comes through. I'm really like a telephone. 395 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:20.079 I'm not doing anything. White Light's interesting because White Light 396 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:24.480 is not a teacher, and they've been quite clear they 397 00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:29.599 are my teacher to teach me how to teach. They 398 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:34.640 don't bring forward a message like Joshua. It's quite different. 399 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:39.079 That's why I said. They're very brief. They're really cool, 400 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:44.920 and they're very loving, supportive and encouraging. And yet where 401 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.680