Speaker 1: Karen. Yes, what if I told you that our next
Speaker 1: guest can see things that we can't.
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be very cool.
Speaker 1: What if I told you then that she's able to
Speaker 1: communicate with non physical entities.
Speaker 2: See, now that makes a difference, because without my glasses
Speaker 2: I really can't see much. That wouldn't be saying a
Speaker 2: whole lot. But clarification is kep.
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. Yeah, I'm so sorry, But
Speaker 1: non physical entities, spirit GUIDs and even loved ones who've
Speaker 1: passed on.
Speaker 3: That's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I thought you might be interested. So you see, apparently
Speaker 1: when we struggle with something, we're too close to the
Speaker 1: issue to really see it. Because we exist in this
Speaker 1: illusion that we call life, we're missing the obvious, and
Speaker 1: because we're caught in the vibration of the problem, the
Speaker 1: answer is always going to keep slipping through our fingers.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's where our guest comes in and her guides.
Speaker 1: They don't just see things differently, They see everything from
Speaker 1: the highest perspective. They can pinpoint the root cause of
Speaker 1: any issue and more importantly, give us actionable steps to
Speaker 1: rectify it. Wow, does this not sound like the kind
Speaker 1: of guidance we could all use. Oh I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, You're not wrong. But I don't like
Speaker 1: when I'm getting called out like that.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm intrigued.
Speaker 1: I no, Karen's intrigued. So if you are intrigued, to
Speaker 1: stay with us as we dig deeper into how our
Speaker 1: guest today taps into this wisdom to reveal what's hidden
Speaker 1: and how she helps others move forward with clarity. On
Speaker 1: this episode of The Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is Will, and,
Speaker 1: unlike moulderin Scully, want to believe. So we've embarked in
Speaker 1: a journey of discovery.
Speaker 2: We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
Speaker 2: metaphysical world.
Speaker 1: We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences.
Speaker 4: I even joined a coven.
Speaker 2: Of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep.
Speaker 4: All on the interest of finding something, anything that will
Speaker 4: prove that there's something beyond this physical.
Speaker 2: Three dimensional world we all live in.
Speaker 4: This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians.
Speaker 1: Hey there, I'm Will and I'm caring, and today we
Speaker 1: have the privilege of hosting Christy Levy, who uses her
Speaker 1: intuitive spiritual gifts to connect to those on the other
Speaker 1: side of the veil, whether it's past loved ones, spirit guides,
Speaker 1: or even the White Light itself. She brings through messages
Speaker 1: and information about an individual's life path. Those that come
Speaker 1: through from a non physical realm come forward to share
Speaker 1: their perspective and help us to see the truth of
Speaker 1: any situation. I am thrilled to welcome her to the show. Christy,
Speaker 1: good to see you.
Speaker 3: Hi, Well, Karen's great to see you. Thanks for having
Speaker 3: me on.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for coming.
Speaker 1: It is an absolute pleasure. We have heard so many
Speaker 1: great things about you, Christie, So no pressure, but we're
Speaker 1: expecting great things a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh no.
Speaker 1: So in the teas and in the show open, I
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about what you do and how
Speaker 1: you do it. But there's a distinction because you do
Speaker 1: a lot of things right. You are a spirit medium.
Speaker 1: You're also a roto coach. You do a lot of things,
Speaker 1: you channel different things, you tune into different things. So
Speaker 1: who exactly is Christie in two minutes or less?
Speaker 3: Two minutes or less, Well, I have the alphabet soup
Speaker 3: of psychic ability. This is what I always say. None
Speaker 3: of it showed up in my life until I was
Speaker 3: about fifty five years old. So two years ago for that,
Speaker 3: I was rather corporate, working in that type of environment,
Speaker 3: a mom raising kids, Middle America, that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: And I started meditating a lot, taking courses from Gary
Speaker 3: and Joshua, and as I did, my perspective raised raised.
Speaker 3: I kept doing the work, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: little things started to happen. I started seeing things in
Speaker 3: my periphery. I realized that it would be a very
Speaker 3: long story, but that I had some sort of communication
Speaker 3: with those that had transitioned. That was something I didn't
Speaker 3: even really believe in. I saw mediums and I thought
Speaker 3: they were fake. That's not true, there's no ways. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I was really in the last five years,
Speaker 3: I have eaten my words more than I care to say,
Speaker 3: because I didn't really believe in it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The good thing you slim because you were able
Speaker 1: to eat a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and then over the course of the last
Speaker 3: couple of years, that ability showed up some clairvoyance, clear sentience,
Speaker 3: clear audience. Then I started to channel just a group
Speaker 3: that I had been communicating with privately, thinking it was
Speaker 3: just my own way of seeing something. And I named
Speaker 3: them the White Light. And there's a reason for that.
Speaker 3: But I was just communicating with them and never thought
Speaker 3: about bringing them forward to speak, And so then that
Speaker 3: started happening, and that now who I am. I'm the
Speaker 3: weirdest person in the world. Yeah, it was the last
Speaker 3: thing I wanted to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the coolest person in the world. All right, right now,
Speaker 1: I need to call something out because you mentioned Gary
Speaker 1: and Joshua, and for those that aren't in the know,
Speaker 1: you are actually the partner of Gary Temple Bodley, who
Speaker 1: was on our show a few weeks ago. We ended
Speaker 1: up splitting into two parts because there was so much
Speaker 1: coming through, and in fact, he channels Joshua, which is
Speaker 1: a group of non physical entities that provide a lot
Speaker 1: of wisdom. And when we talked to him at the end,
Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, you have doctor Christie. So
Speaker 1: here we are, and we're glad that we did.
Speaker 3: I met Gary because I found his channeling Joshua. I
Speaker 3: had listened to Abraham Hicks for a long time and
Speaker 3: loved them, love her. Was just looking for something else,
Speaker 3: and I've found Gary and Joshua took his boot camp.
Speaker 3: We became friends. When all of this stuff started happening
Speaker 3: with me. He was instrumental and helping me just bring
Speaker 3: it forward, not be afraid of it. He poked and
Speaker 3: prodded and talked and so and then since then we've
Speaker 3: created a bunch of courses together, and then we have
Speaker 3: our podcast that we do together.
Speaker 2: Well, so we hear a lot of different stories from people.
Speaker 2: Really they had an accident or some sort of traumatic
Speaker 2: event that caused their gifts to open up. But it
Speaker 2: sounds like you were more intentional, Is that right?
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't intend for these intuitive gifts to show up.
Speaker 3: I assumed I wasn't psychic, didn't care, wasn't sure that
Speaker 3: how much I really believed in it, And it wasn't
Speaker 3: even something I was looking for. I thought there were
Speaker 3: a handful of channels in the world Gary included that
Speaker 3: didn't interest me that much. So it wasn't intentional. I
Speaker 3: was just on a spiritual path and I was meditating,
Speaker 3: and I had other things. Most people come to this
Speaker 3: work to try to fix something, to make their lives
Speaker 3: better in some way. Something isn't working, nothing's working, whatever
Speaker 3: it happens to be. My life was great, but I
Speaker 3: just knew that there was more and that it could
Speaker 3: be better, could be better. So I started doing the
Speaker 3: boot camp and meditating and reading, and in doing that
Speaker 3: work all the time processing those limiting beliefs, my perspective
Speaker 3: went up and up. Or my vibration, I consider them
Speaker 3: to be one and the same, just went up and
Speaker 3: up and up until all of a sudden these things occurred.
Speaker 3: I believe everyone has them. We are all psychic, We
Speaker 3: all have intuitibility. Perhaps some of us might be a
Speaker 3: stronger medium, some might be stronger at clairvoyance, others at
Speaker 3: time stamping or other things that are out there. But
Speaker 3: we all have them, and more than one. It's just
Speaker 3: simply that our vibration, our perspective, because we're still in
Speaker 3: a lot of fear and control, there's no point in
Speaker 3: it really showing up. So it doesn't. Mine just showed up,
Speaker 3: and I fought it. I really wasn't. I thought it
Speaker 3: was nuts. Yeah, we hear that a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In fact, some of us are stronger at older, strong older.
Speaker 1: Come on, Karen's of the jokes.
Speaker 2: There is a joke in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, right, I get it. Well, I thought you
Speaker 3: were talking about because I do get vibrational smell sometimes.
Speaker 1: With that is exactly what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is recovery.
Speaker 1: Actually, there is is a clear audience.
Speaker 3: No, that's is knowingly I don't know what the one
Speaker 3: with the noses. I didn't tell you, And it doesn't
Speaker 3: happen all the time, but it's happened enough that I'm
Speaker 3: aware of it. And I'll get a very strong smell
Speaker 3: and say, Okay, is that smell curry? Is it Indian food?
Speaker 3: And then the smell will go away because that means
Speaker 3: I got it right. When I get it right, it
Speaker 3: goes away.
Speaker 1: And in fact, as I was researching you for the show,
Speaker 1: I did watch a video we talked about this right
Speaker 1: before we start recording your smelling chocolate chip cookies. I
Speaker 1: would love to have that power. Just I'd be channeling
Speaker 1: all kinds of grandmas, just like it smells.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really interesting that I don't really understand exactly
Speaker 3: how it works, but I find that most of the
Speaker 3: and I don't mean to be callous when I say this,
Speaker 3: but I call them the dead people. I don't really
Speaker 3: know how else transition loved ones or I don't know
Speaker 3: that just if you knew me really well, you would
Speaker 3: go that does not sound like her. Yeah, would I
Speaker 3: talk to the dead people when when they come in,
Speaker 3: they'll use anything they can to get something across to me,
Speaker 3: and they use what I will recognize. If they want
Speaker 3: to have me, say, chocolate ch cookies. I may not
Speaker 3: get a visual of a chocolate chip cookie because that
Speaker 3: might not register for me. I might just not even
Speaker 3: notice it. But an overwhelming smell in a wait, I smell, oh,
Speaker 3: I smell a cake. Nope, still not going anywhere, and
Speaker 3: it goes what is that is it? Cookies? Chocolate chip cookies?
Speaker 3: And then it's gone. So then I'll say it out
Speaker 3: loud to the person, So chocolate chip cookies, because I
Speaker 3: know that's right. So they't use anything that they can.
Speaker 2: And our old house that we moved out of, every
Speaker 2: once in a while with then Senna's room, i'd walk
Speaker 2: in there, our daughter's room, and I could have the smell.
Speaker 2: It was like cumin or bio. It was just like
Speaker 2: everyone's in a blue man. And it's when she was,
Speaker 2: even when she was little, so I know it wasn't her.
Speaker 3: Right right. It's funny, but most people, like we're just
Speaker 3: talking about you have some sort of intuitive glip that
Speaker 3: is not something that will recognize in that room. But
Speaker 3: you did several times you just blow it off. Well
Speaker 3: that's weird. What does it smell? And you just blow
Speaker 3: it off? Or maybe you look for some dirty laundry
Speaker 3: but you're not paying attention, so you let it go
Speaker 3: and move on and it just doesn't see me. If
Speaker 3: I smell something, I stop. Okay, that's weird. What is that?
Speaker 3: What's going on? Just learn to do that. Now.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting because Karen has a bionic nose. She
Speaker 1: could smell a strawberry five miles down the road. It's incredible.
Speaker 2: It's a blessing and a cur Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm like that too. I walk in the house, something's
Speaker 3: wrong in here, right. That may be a way that
Speaker 3: your spirit guides or transition loved ones try to communicate
Speaker 3: with you, and you can pick up on it. You're
Speaker 3: intuitively sensitive enough in that area that you think it's
Speaker 3: your physical nos but it's not. It's just this everything vibrational.
Speaker 3: It's just this vibration that you're picking up on, and
Speaker 3: it is in the form of smell. Is how you
Speaker 3: recognize the vibration because it doesn't have a sound or
Speaker 3: a light.
Speaker 1: I told you it wasn't me.
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't you.
Speaker 1: You talked about the white light. Now, the first thing
Speaker 1: that comes to mind when someone says to me, the
Speaker 1: white light, and I'm assuming a lot of people are
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing is when you die, you go
Speaker 1: to the stay away from the lie parly right, the
Speaker 1: white light. Are we talking about the same white light
Speaker 1: that you were connecting with?
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I was in a meditation shortly
Speaker 3: after these intuitive gifts began to show up for me.
Speaker 3: I was having a meditation and in my meditation, I
Speaker 3: was speaking to Joshua, who has a been my teacher
Speaker 3: for a long time, and sometimes I would talk to Abraham.
Speaker 3: My eyes are closed in a meditation, and they were
Speaker 3: this huge. It looked like a chorus maybe, but this
Speaker 3: huge group, this council, all different entities, right, some human,
Speaker 3: some centaur, all these different things. And I'm just looking
Speaker 3: at him, going wow, this is cool. And I said, Hey,
Speaker 3: if I opened my eyes, could I really see you?
Speaker 3: And they said sure, And I was afraid to was no,
Speaker 3: because I was seeing all kinds of things at that point.
Speaker 3: I was now, I don't want to I'm good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And they said, well that's okay. We're just here to
Speaker 3: introduce you to your next teacher, and they just pulled
Speaker 3: back this curtain and it was just this massive bright light.
Speaker 3: But my eyes are closed so I can stare right
Speaker 3: into it, or it wasn't a real light I was looking.
Speaker 3: I was just in meditation and it was just this
Speaker 3: beautiful white light. So I said, oh, white light.
Speaker 1: Hi, right.
Speaker 3: And for almost a year, nine months, I just talked
Speaker 3: to them privately or I would. You can hear old
Speaker 3: podcasts where I'm telling someone, well, I have this teacher
Speaker 3: and I call him my white light teacher, and they
Speaker 3: said this, and it's this dropped the mic moment. That's
Speaker 3: who they are. And it just took time. I started
Speaker 3: out just translating what they were saying, and then eventually
Speaker 3: Gary was recording and we were doing that and I
Speaker 3: just went out, we don't really know how it happened,
Speaker 3: like Edgar Casey style, And they spoke with Gary for
Speaker 3: a couple of hours while I was just completely passed out.
Speaker 3: I didn't remember any of it.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, Edgar Casey was a
Speaker 1: sleeping prophet, right, he would go into a trance and
Speaker 1: his secretary would take notice. He channeled things while he
Speaker 1: was in a sleeping state most people know, but just
Speaker 1: in case I.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, great, yeah, I wouldn't have thought of that.
Speaker 3: I didn't know who Edgar Casey was. Because when it
Speaker 3: was over, Gary laughed and I opened my eyes and
Speaker 3: I said, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I fell
Speaker 3: asleep on you. You have all this equipment set up,
Speaker 3: and I was laying my head on the back of
Speaker 3: the couch and he looked at me and he said
Speaker 3: sleep because he didn't know I was past. You thought
Speaker 3: my eyes were just closed. And I didn't know any
Speaker 3: of it. So we have this whole recording and we
Speaker 3: were able to figure out when it started because you
Speaker 3: can hear me start to giggle and then I go down,
Speaker 3: and that's what would happen. So we did that for
Speaker 3: a long time. I would just go out. I learned
Speaker 3: how to just relax into it, and then I would
Speaker 3: just pass out and they would speak for a long
Speaker 3: time with Gary, and then eventually White Light actually taught
Speaker 3: me how to do it where I could stay awake
Speaker 3: and I'm not there, but I'm there. So that is
Speaker 3: the White Light. We've asked them hundreds of times who
Speaker 3: they are, and all they say is we are the center.
Speaker 3: That's all, they'll say, Ah.
Speaker 1: That's actually pretty flipping cool. Yeah, I'm just gonna put
Speaker 1: it out there. I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: It's cool. Yeah, it's cool. They'll say we're the center
Speaker 3: of you. And if you ask it, say are you
Speaker 3: the center of me? And they would say, yes, are
Speaker 3: you the center of that cactus? Yes, they're just it's
Speaker 3: really funny.
Speaker 2: So when you first started communicating with them, did it
Speaker 2: feel like it was your own thoughts or was it
Speaker 2: a very distinct different voice or type of wording. How
Speaker 2: did you know it was someone different?
Speaker 3: The visual for me in meditation gave me a whole
Speaker 3: sense of them, so I had a feeling of vibrational sense,
Speaker 3: sort of a warmth about it, and definitely a slight
Speaker 3: difference in the cadence too. It's not the same cadence
Speaker 3: as my thought. To me the way that it comes
Speaker 3: and they speak to me in a lot of different ways,
Speaker 3: So they'll send moving pictures, still pictures, blocks of thought
Speaker 3: that I sort of have to decipher, streams that are
Speaker 3: full sentences. So there's lots of different ways that the
Speaker 3: information comes in that I can sort of sense. And
Speaker 3: they're just always there, They're always right up to my
Speaker 3: one two o'clock. If I had a clock around me
Speaker 3: right up there and they're always there. When I go
Speaker 3: to channel them, I just do my connection and close
Speaker 3: my eyes and I can feel it. They say, I
Speaker 3: go to them, I feel it like that.
Speaker 1: Well, they would probably say that you are. They're the
Speaker 1: center of you. So you're just going inside within.
Speaker 3: That, right They say, yeah, the center, Yeah we are
Speaker 3: you right? Okay, that's just tough for me because I
Speaker 3: don't trust myself. I have to think it's something outside
Speaker 3: of me before I would trust to answer some questions.
Speaker 1: I like I mentioned, I watched a couple of the
Speaker 1: videos of you doing a meadiership session with people and
Speaker 1: then you are scary good. So when someone reaches out
Speaker 1: to you to set up a session with you, how
Speaker 1: much do you know about the person before you start?
Speaker 1: Because some people ask birthday and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: What kind of question do you It depends.
Speaker 3: Some people that I read for I know very well
Speaker 3: as you can imagine, with their friends. They're in the community,
Speaker 3: so I know a lot about them. But if it's
Speaker 3: a stranger, which about half of what I do, maybe
Speaker 3: a little more than half, is with people all over
Speaker 3: the world, I will have first name. Sometimes they'll give
Speaker 3: me their first and last name, and usually an email
Speaker 3: address because they have to put that in. And that's it.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything, and most of them, believe it
Speaker 3: or not. I do more for people out of the
Speaker 3: country than I do people that are in the US. Wow,
Speaker 3: So it's I just missed be more popular in other countries.
Speaker 2: I just had this question popped into my head. Does
Speaker 2: the white Light ever just talk directly with Joshua?
Speaker 3: No? Isn't that I know? Funny? Wouldn't that be interesting?
Speaker 3: Joshua ripped on white Light sometimes it's really funny. But no,
Speaker 3: they collaborate, but the collaboration is always through Gary and I.
Speaker 3: And we've never done a channeling session where I'm out
Speaker 3: channeling white Light and he's He's not fully out, he's
Speaker 3: sort of translating with Joshua. And people have asked us
Speaker 3: to do it, and he's not been really interested in it.
Speaker 3: I don't really know what would happen, and it would
Speaker 3: be good fun.
Speaker 1: It might be like matter and anti matter coming together
Speaker 1: and destroying the universe were weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We do collaborate, Yeah, it would last for two weeks.
Speaker 3: But here's what I wonder, because I feel like the
Speaker 3: curiosity in a sense, really comes from us here in
Speaker 3: three D. We are the ones who want to know.
Speaker 3: We have forgotten, we're in this illusion of separation, and
Speaker 3: we want to know how to get where it is
Speaker 3: we want to go. And so all of the questions,
Speaker 3: all the curiosity comes through us. And when White Light answers,
Speaker 3: if I have a question in my mind and they
Speaker 3: pop in, it's so instant the answer is instantaneous. The
Speaker 3: same with Joshua that there's just a knowing there. So
Speaker 3: without us as intermediary is asking the questions and then
Speaker 3: formulating these answers and letting it flow, I'm not sure
Speaker 3: the two of them would have much to say to
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, in fact, I know exactly how it
Speaker 1: goes when we go dude, want to go?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah cool? Right right right yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: We do this asking. And I say it all the
Speaker 3: time that when people thank me for you know, you
Speaker 3: changed my life, they say these things, are you changed
Speaker 3: my life? Or thank you so much for doing the
Speaker 3: white Light thing, whatever it is, And I laugh because
Speaker 3: it's those people that give me the space to do it.
Speaker 3: I'm not really doing it for anyone else. I'm doing
Speaker 3: it for me. I'm not doing it to save the world.
Speaker 3: I'm not. All of their questions are what pulls that
Speaker 3: through me? When I do a medium reading for someone
Speaker 3: who doesn't have a lot of asking, and I'm not
Speaker 3: really sure. They're just doing it, maybe for a party
Speaker 3: trick or something. They just think it's cool and they
Speaker 3: want to do it. It's like sucking up milkshake through a
Speaker 3: little tiny stirstraw. It's so difficult, and I'm pulling and
Speaker 3: pulling and pulling and trying to get this to come through,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't. The asking is from those people there,
Speaker 3: that's where it comes through. I'm really like a telephone.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing anything. White Light's interesting because White Light
Speaker 3: is not a teacher, and they've been quite clear they
Speaker 3: are my teacher to teach me how to teach. They
Speaker 3: don't bring forward a message like Joshua. It's quite different.
Speaker 3: That's why I said. They're very brief. They're really cool,
Speaker 3: and they're very loving, supportive and encouraging. And yet where
Speaker 3: Joshua will have a twenty minute monologue when they open
Speaker 3: for a group of students, white Light will say good morning,
Speaker 3: Where would you like to begin? And they will say,
Speaker 3: we are not teachers. We are Christie's teacher, but we
Speaker 3: are not teachers. Very interesting.
Speaker 1: In light of that, I don't think I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask a chanel of white Light because I don't want
Speaker 1: to pick anybody off.
Speaker 3: It isn't They're great. It's just that there's a difference.
Speaker 3: And I think that's really interesting when I'm learning how
Speaker 3: many channels there are around and channel galactic and non
Speaker 3: physical and all of these different things, and many many
Speaker 3: people know exactly who they're channeling. This is the Council
Speaker 3: of Twelve and this is Vishar, and the messages are
Speaker 3: really cool, and these are teachers. These are channeled messages,
Speaker 3: and they're wanting to say something. They're really wanting to
Speaker 3: white Light is beautiful and if you I'm happy to
Speaker 3: bring them in. And they're not teachers, so they will
Speaker 3: just have a conversation and you ask a little question
Speaker 3: and they'll answer, and their answers are four or five
Speaker 3: sentences and then they'll and they always say, do you understand?
Speaker 3: You know? But they're very unique.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm a little intimidated. If you haven't noticed,
Speaker 1: I can be a little bit of a white ass,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how.
Speaker 3: Yeah they are. They are very very funny to me,
Speaker 3: not so much on zoom. However, when I do live
Speaker 3: channeling question answer, I've been told they're very funny. I
Speaker 3: don't listen to it a lot. We're still my God.
Speaker 3: They were funny today, So they are and they can be.
Speaker 3: It's just they're quite a bit different than Joshua. Joshua
Speaker 3: will just you can. It's like one of those cars.
Speaker 3: You pull the cord out, you let go, and they
Speaker 3: will go. There's so much they want to teach and
Speaker 3: so much they want to say, and it's a beautiful message.
Speaker 3: White Light's message is very similar. Just they're not teachers,
Speaker 3: and but they are funny. They have a great sense
Speaker 3: of humor, and nothing shocks them. Nothing there. It's not religious, right,
Speaker 3: it's not that sort of hiohus thing. It's just it's real.
Speaker 1: Well, then maybe we'll touch on it a little bit later,
Speaker 1: when I've thrown up the courage to ask.
Speaker 3: I will tell you will, You're not the only one.
Speaker 3: People are very very nervous to talk to White Like
Speaker 3: always anytime I've done a one on one, when I
Speaker 3: do a group session. And these are people that talk
Speaker 3: to Joshua all the time, come to our retreats, do
Speaker 3: that when they walk up to talk to white Light.
Speaker 3: Even Gary heause, I don't know what it is. White
Speaker 3: light makes me so nervous.
Speaker 1: Oh thank god, Okay, else, I feel so bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't know. It shouldn't. I mean, I
Speaker 3: care him around with me all the time, and they're
Speaker 3: really great. You're not the only one.
Speaker 1: All right, I need to ask. In the beginning of
Speaker 1: the show, we tease the fact that you feel that
Speaker 1: we're all kind of stuck in the illusion and we're
Speaker 1: too close to our own problems and things like that.
Speaker 1: So I've gone to therapy, I've had channeling sessions, I've
Speaker 1: gone to mediums, I've had psychics, and it seems like
Speaker 1: I keep getting stuck in the same kind of thing. Right,
Speaker 1: So this somehow suddenly makes all the sense in the world,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just too close to it, right, And so
Speaker 1: when you do these sessions, is it wake up stupid
Speaker 1: kind of thing or is it is now?
Speaker 3: They're very gentle, they can be, especially when someone is
Speaker 3: not done a lot of the work that they've done,
Speaker 3: lots of processing of limiting believes, actual practical stuff that
Speaker 3: Gary and Joshua channeled. If they haven't done a lot
Speaker 3: of this work and they're not prolific meditators and they're
Speaker 3: just really getting going in this, it's very gentle, but
Speaker 3: their transition loved ones will typically come in really just
Speaker 3: to let them know it's real, we've figured out. And
Speaker 3: then the spirit guides come in and it's very gentle.
Speaker 3: We'll just say okay, begin to meditate, and they'll give
Speaker 3: them very clear instructions on you need to go outside,
Speaker 3: take your shoes off, you to have this kind of
Speaker 3: stone in your hand. I don't know, think about this stuff,
Speaker 3: and just breathe. Just stand outside in the quiet, in
Speaker 3: the air and just breathe and follow your breath for
Speaker 3: three minutes. They start them out doing that, and that's
Speaker 3: just one example of many. But on a road after
Speaker 3: a reading of having maybe five or six instructions of
Speaker 3: steps to take, and the interesting thing is they if
Speaker 3: they don't follow it, they won't ever know because the
Speaker 3: steps might not appear like they're going to change your life.
Speaker 3: They're so simple, very subtle. They're very subtle, and I
Speaker 3: find it when I if I happen to watch one
Speaker 3: again and listen to it. Well, if this person will
Speaker 3: do this, it's going to set them on a trajectory
Speaker 3: of going deeper and deeper and deeper. It's just they've
Speaker 3: got to get started and they don't know. Depending on
Speaker 3: where someone is on their journey, and then sometimes the
Speaker 3: readings can be very very intense, like wake up Stupid.
Speaker 3: They're direct and a lot of things are revealed a
Speaker 3: person that is talking to me. There are many times
Speaker 3: where things come up and I'm thinking I don't want
Speaker 3: to say this, and transition love one or their spirit
Speaker 3: guy is like, you know, you have to say it.
Speaker 3: So I'll tell them the memory and I'll say this
Speaker 3: and that and they're like, how did you know? Well,
Speaker 3: I don't because I'm it's not me. I'm getting deigod.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it can be like mister Miyagi's wax on
Speaker 1: wax off, and sometimes it's like two way four to
Speaker 1: the head.
Speaker 3: It can be very specific to each person. It depends
Speaker 3: on where someone is in their journey.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a psychic hit right now. I foresee a
Speaker 1: session with Christy in my future very soon.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to do it. We do the dead talks
Speaker 3: on our podcast. It was Gary's inspiration to do this.
Speaker 3: I'm a little resistant to it because it's exhausting for
Speaker 3: me to bring in the dead people. I am transitioning
Speaker 3: out of doing personal one on one readings to doing
Speaker 3: more in a group setting because of that. But the
Speaker 3: Dead Talks have a lot of that flavor to them.
Speaker 3: Gary wants to bring in these celebrities that have passed on,
Speaker 3: but rather than talking about fluffy Hollywood stuff or gossip,
Speaker 3: he asked them very spiritual questions about perspective and intention
Speaker 3: and life purpose. It's very interesting, really, and I resisted
Speaker 3: doing it quite a bit, but that has a little
Speaker 3: of the flavor of the readings in it as well.
Speaker 1: You guys do the Unimaginable Life and Unimaginable Life.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the two of us.
Speaker 1: That did that, right, Is that the one that you
Speaker 1: do Ted talks on.
Speaker 3: Dead Talks, right? It is Dead Talks. Yes, we do
Speaker 3: that on that one. When we first started doing that,
Speaker 3: Gary had the idea and I was, I do not
Speaker 3: want to do this, and we'll try. Let's just see.
Speaker 3: Because I can call anyone in. If you asked me
Speaker 3: to call in your dead aunt, Susan, I can't it
Speaker 3: doesn't work like that for me. Some mediums can do that.
Speaker 3: That does not work for me. But I said, okay,
Speaker 3: so we start and I just sort of get quiet
Speaker 3: and open a door. And what I did, it got
Speaker 3: so noisy. I couldn't. It was like, well, I have
Speaker 3: no idea what's going on right, I can't tell. So
Speaker 3: I just said, okay, we got to do something. And
Speaker 3: I said, let's just okay, all the boys leave. I
Speaker 3: just want girls, like just the girls. And then we
Speaker 3: started naming categories. And that's what took us to this
Speaker 3: place of we have these little cards that he has
Speaker 3: and I don't see them. And so when we're ready
Speaker 3: to start, he starts drawing a card and he says, okay,
Speaker 3: female lived in the eighteen hundreds music, and they all
Speaker 3: start clearing out until I get down to one or
Speaker 3: two that I can hear, and then we go and
Speaker 3: have a conversation. It's really interesting, it's really fascinating. We've
Speaker 3: talked to Marilyn Monroe, We've talked to many many that
Speaker 3: I have no idea who they are. We never knew.
Speaker 3: Once we got Charlotte Bronte, and I mean that Jane
Speaker 3: Eyre was my favorite a lot, and so I was
Speaker 3: a little starstruck. And in that one I knew nothing
Speaker 3: about her though. That's funny. I know all about the book,
Speaker 3: but I don't know much about her other than her sisters.
Speaker 3: So they've been very interesting. But they don't discuss much
Speaker 3: about their life other than a couple of details. I think,
Speaker 3: just to let everyone know that it's real, because if
Speaker 3: you're sitting in the room with me, I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's got the cards and we go so he does
Speaker 3: some details birthdays or place of birth or some different
Speaker 3: things like that, but then he goes right into very
Speaker 3: spiritual questions and from their perspective, now compared to their life,
Speaker 3: what would they have done here? And it's really pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds cool. I subscribed. I've got a bunch
Speaker 1: of a Q waiting to listen to you, so I
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear. I mean, you get a lot
Speaker 1: of messages. You've talked to a lot of people, whether
Speaker 1: they're passed on or spirit guides or the center, you
Speaker 1: must have gotten some very interesting messages. Would you say,
Speaker 1: is the most strange message you've ever received?
Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, Okay, let me go a couple categories for you.
Speaker 3: The most common and the one that honestly comes through
Speaker 3: everyone everyone, and that is to do only that that
Speaker 3: lights you up, follow your bliss, do what makes you happy.
Speaker 3: That is so consistent, and it's said in so many
Speaker 3: different ways that finally I'm starting to tiptoe and understand
Speaker 3: what that really means. One of the more interesting ones
Speaker 3: was in a group reading that I did, and I
Speaker 3: had this line of dead people because they were twenty
Speaker 3: five to thirty people in the room and I'm sitting
Speaker 3: up front and all these people are here. And so
Speaker 3: as soon as I opened up and have a whole
Speaker 3: line of dead people coming in, one or two came,
Speaker 3: and people recognize who it is that's coming and the messages.
Speaker 3: But then all of a sudden, I could see Do
Speaker 3: you guys ever see a cartoon or something where or
Speaker 3: a movie they're trying to show someone coming in from
Speaker 3: another dimension and so you have a wall and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, the face pops through the wall and
Speaker 3: goes away in the face or through the landscape of
Speaker 3: a mountain.
Speaker 1: And it feaks me out every time.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, well I have that over here going on.
Speaker 3: I can see something coming in, and I mean physically
Speaker 3: I'm not totally physical. It's third eye visible. But it's
Speaker 3: hard to explain. And I can see this, and I
Speaker 3: could tell that dead people were sort of stepping back
Speaker 3: to let whatever this was come in. And it's coming
Speaker 3: in and out. It's glitchy. It's very difficult to understand.
Speaker 3: I'm catching bits and pieces. As it turns out, it
Speaker 3: was the father of someone who was in the room.
Speaker 3: But the father was not passed on, but he had
Speaker 3: It was a very very very late stage of Alzheimer's.
Speaker 3: So White Light had to explain to me and the
Speaker 3: rest of us that when someone is in that state,
Speaker 3: they are in the non physical and we're all in
Speaker 3: this place. They're not in another place. I promise you
Speaker 3: right there, right here, if anybody could tell you. But
Speaker 3: they're so in and out that he was able to
Speaker 3: communicate with his son through me to tell me some
Speaker 3: things for the guy's mother. That was interesting. I didn't
Speaker 3: know that was possible. That was really interesting. I don't know. Messages,
Speaker 3: there are so many, but the follow your bliss. Do
Speaker 3: what makes you happy is paramount, even if it is
Speaker 3: just in small ways. It doesn't mean they're not suggesting, well,
Speaker 3: go quit your job, as an accountant and move to
Speaker 3: California all of your family right, and try to become
Speaker 3: a musician when you can't play a note in your life,
Speaker 3: and moment by moment by moment, there are so many
Speaker 3: things that we all do that are based on what
Speaker 3: other people will think, on supporting our identity and supporting
Speaker 3: all of these beliefs that we have that are simply
Speaker 3: not true, and we function so much of our lives
Speaker 3: in that that we have no idea what we really
Speaker 3: could do, what is possible for us, And just taking
Speaker 3: a little step to do one thing that makes you
Speaker 3: light up, that makes you happy without putting me I
Speaker 3: shouldn't do that on it. That is the most common
Speaker 3: message that I get consistently, all of them, no matter
Speaker 3: where they come from.
Speaker 1: So what I'm hearing you say is forget any preconceived
Speaker 1: notions of what you're supposed to be doing or not
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing, societal pressures of anything. Just follow
Speaker 1: your bliss, regardless of what anyone else is saying.
Speaker 3: Generally, yes, now to get there, that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 3: Just to do that is like saying just stop it,
Speaker 3: stop thinking that, stop thinking that way. It is not
Speaker 3: that simple, and you might so I can't get there
Speaker 3: from here. I just don't worry about what other people think.
Speaker 3: It's so insidious that you don't realize how much you
Speaker 3: do it, and on what level and what multiple levels
Speaker 3: we're doing it from your spouse and your parents, and
Speaker 3: your children and your neighbors, everyone responsibility to them, all
Speaker 3: of these things based on getting love from them. We think,
Speaker 3: if I don't do this they, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: get what I need from them. So I have to
Speaker 3: be this, and I have to be that. It's all
Speaker 3: guys under this identity of good mother a mother as well,
Speaker 3: So it's all under this, and it's it's wrapped pretty tightly.
Speaker 3: So beginning to unravel it, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I imagine then that the opposite could also be true,
Speaker 2: because if you I mean, you could potentially do something
Speaker 2: that brings you bliss but that hurts someone else, where's
Speaker 2: the fine line there?
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what? Before you answer that, let's take
Speaker 1: a break and we'll be right back and now back
Speaker 1: to the skeptic metaphysicians.
Speaker 2: I imagine then that the opposite could also be true,
Speaker 2: because if you I mean, you could potentially do something
Speaker 2: that brings you bliss, but that hurts someone else? Where's
Speaker 2: the fine line there?
Speaker 3: That's an interesting thing that most people will go to
Speaker 3: that win. So if you give an example of what
Speaker 3: that would be. But if you say, well, if I
Speaker 3: follow my bliss, then I won't be able to support
Speaker 3: my family, that perhaps is what you mean that hurts
Speaker 3: someone else? Or if my bliss is to drive one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty miles an hour down this two lane road,
Speaker 3: but I kill someone, right, It's these sort of extream
Speaker 3: examples that everyone really wants to go to. At first,
Speaker 3: when you think about follow your bliss, and what they
Speaker 3: are all saying to us is it's not about this sweeping,
Speaker 3: chuck your whole life thing and start doing that following
Speaker 3: that dream that you've had forever. Certainly that could occur.
Speaker 3: But when following your bliss, if you understand that everything
Speaker 3: is perfect, everything is right, everything is perfect, there is
Speaker 3: this buffet of experience that we all want to be
Speaker 3: able to have. Just because I don't like olives doesn't
Speaker 3: mean I want them removed from the ovay because Karen
Speaker 3: might really like them, and I don't think that she
Speaker 3: wants to try. I hate them, but I'm not going
Speaker 3: to say take those off, or I'm not coming to
Speaker 3: that restaurant. And that's what this place is. But as
Speaker 3: we have balance and we operate from love. Operating from
Speaker 3: love does not does not feel good to walk in
Speaker 3: and tell your family you are no longer buying food
Speaker 3: because you are going to start playing the guitar and
Speaker 3: you have quit your job, and you will no longer
Speaker 3: be buying anyone food. They'll have to figure it out.
Speaker 3: That is a jump off a cliff into the deep
Speaker 3: end of the pool. But if you did understand that
Speaker 3: everything was perfect, you can't hurt anyone else, even a
Speaker 3: murder I've experienced, and everyone played a role in that.
Speaker 3: To be the victim in that situation is a right
Speaker 3: of an experience that someone has, and I cannot create
Speaker 3: in your experience. Even if i'd no longer buy you food,
Speaker 3: that is your experience. And we don't affect each other
Speaker 3: as much as we believe that we do. But it's
Speaker 3: taking these little steps to begin to understand, what if
Speaker 3: I just do one thing today that makes me truly happy,
Speaker 3: and watch and see. If you live in a household,
Speaker 3: what you will find is that if something is for
Speaker 3: your highest good, it is for the highest good of
Speaker 3: everyone involved. As you move through and start to test
Speaker 3: this out and play with that a little bit, you
Speaker 3: start to see it and understand it. My desire to
Speaker 3: not give my daughter a bath. I don't want to
Speaker 3: give her a bath may seem like, okay, well, you
Speaker 3: know that's a little bit different. But my desire to
Speaker 3: control her, to not let her talk on the phone,
Speaker 3: to make her go to bed at a certain time,
Speaker 3: those certain things may seem like I'm acting in her
Speaker 3: highest good, But actually what I'm doing is making our
Speaker 3: relationship difficult, making it complicated, and I don't need to
Speaker 3: do that. She has her own guidance. We all have
Speaker 3: our own.
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm trying to drom up my courage and
Speaker 1: now I don't know if I'm gonna be able to So.
Speaker 2: I think it because I have a question.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of having Karen kick me under the desk
Speaker 1: to try to get you to say, start, okay, I
Speaker 1: guess at this point, would you be open to bringing
Speaker 1: in the white lights share and seeing what if I
Speaker 1: can be brave enough to talk to.
Speaker 3: Them for sure? Yeah? Sure, it just takes me a second,
Speaker 3: and and just understand once they come in I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really have I can fight to come out,
Speaker 3: but and I don't have a lot of memory of
Speaker 3: everything until I'm reminded of it, and then I'll remember
Speaker 3: what was talked about. So I'm really gone.
Speaker 1: So how do we get you back afterwards?
Speaker 3: Oh, when you're finished, they'll end and they move and
Speaker 3: then I know I usually call okay too. Yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't. Yeah, you don't have to do anything except
Speaker 3: when you're finished, just you know. But they usually know
Speaker 3: you're finished anyway, so I don't need a.
Speaker 1: Safe word or something like that. You know, I'm.
Speaker 3: All right. Let me get them. Good evening, Good evening.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming to talk to us.
Speaker 2: We have some questions.
Speaker 3: We are pleased.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess not. If it's okay, I can go
Speaker 2: ahead and start. I have lately a few friends that
Speaker 2: are going through some really difficult times losing loved ones,
Speaker 2: and it's so hard for me to find the right
Speaker 2: words to say to comfort them. And I was hoping
Speaker 2: you could maybe give me guidance on something that I
Speaker 2: can say to help these people with their pain.
Speaker 3: In your physical reality, we understand that you experience loss.
Speaker 3: It is loss of the physical body, loss of the
Speaker 3: physical presence. In this attractive universe, you cannot ever lose
Speaker 3: anything now in your intent, your loving desire to soothe another.
Speaker 3: This is again something that is not possible for you
Speaker 3: to do for them. Your intention to uplift is felt
Speaker 3: vibrationally by then in a time where their perspective is
Speaker 3: on a belief that in a universal perspective is not true.
Speaker 3: In this universe, there is no law us. Once something
Speaker 3: is attracted, it is one plus one, does not equal
Speaker 3: to It is simply a greater one. Your friend who
Speaker 3: has lost one is simply looking at a situation, a
Speaker 3: circumstance from an extremely low perspective. Again, we understand that
Speaker 3: this experience of losing the physical presence of one is
Speaker 3: quite real to you. To reach to another, to assist
Speaker 3: them in raising their perspective will be unique to each one.
Speaker 3: For you, as you look at your friend and you say,
Speaker 3: this is bad, this is wrong. My friends should not
Speaker 3: feel this sad. My friends should not be in this situation.
Speaker 3: In that place, Karen, you cannot hear your own inner self.
Speaker 3: You are allowing that outside condition of what you perceive
Speaker 3: to be bad or wrong or sad to drop your vibration. Now,
Speaker 3: what we would suggest to you is to first understand
Speaker 3: that everything is as it should be. What your friend
Speaker 3: is experiencing is perfect for your friend. It is exactly
Speaker 3: what they chose to experience, and they are fully equipped
Speaker 3: to handle this experience. They have everything they need. As
Speaker 3: you see that they have chosen an experience from the
Speaker 3: buffet that while you would not have chosen it, you
Speaker 3: are appreciative that they have. They are simply you from
Speaker 3: another perspective. They are having an experience so that you
Speaker 3: do not have to in that seeing that they are God,
Speaker 3: they are everything and nothing, and they are absolutely perfect,
Speaker 3: and even in their sadness, they are complete and whole,
Speaker 3: perfect and right, there is nothing wrong. When you can
Speaker 3: hold that perspective on your friend, you have raised your
Speaker 3: own vibration to a frequency where you can hear messages
Speaker 3: from your inner self, from us, from all of non
Speaker 3: physical with the words to say in the moment to
Speaker 3: help shift the perspective of the one with whom you
Speaker 3: are speaking. You can be of no help, no assistance
Speaker 3: if you look at the situation and say this is bad,
Speaker 3: this is wrong. They need me, They do not need you.
Speaker 3: They are perfect This is how you change all around you.
Speaker 3: You help shift their perspective by hearing your own inner
Speaker 3: voice because you know there is nothing wrong. Do you understand?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so, Thank.
Speaker 3: You, Thank you.
Speaker 1: So my question is a little bit more selfish because
Speaker 1: Karen is very empathetic. She does feel for people a lot,
Speaker 1: so that doesn't surprise me at all, just as much
Speaker 1: as my question to you probably won't surprise her at all.
Speaker 1: My biggest challenge right now is maintaining the connection to
Speaker 1: my divinity. I wonder if you could give me some
Speaker 1: words of advice as to how best to try to
Speaker 1: keep myself centered on who I really am versus the
Speaker 1: experience that I'm currently having.
Speaker 3: This is quite simple. We will say to you that
Speaker 3: you never lose your connection to who you truly are.
Speaker 3: What occurs for you, specifically, is that you shift your
Speaker 3: focus deeply into this three dimensional reality that you do
Speaker 3: very much enjoy. As you look in this three dimensional
Speaker 3: reality and you feel that there is this that you
Speaker 3: might want, and perhaps this could be better, and perhaps
Speaker 3: this should not have happened. I should not have forgotten
Speaker 3: that these thoughts that you attract as you spiral down
Speaker 3: into this three D reality cause you to perceive that
Speaker 3: you have lost your connection. Your connection is never lost
Speaker 3: your emotion. You are constant reminder that you are connected.
Speaker 3: When you feel resentment, this is your inner self letting
Speaker 3: you know that you are simply looking at something from
Speaker 3: a bit low perspective. Your inner self is saying, will
Speaker 3: we are right here, we are seeing the truth, we
Speaker 3: are holding the truth. And you are looking over there,
Speaker 3: and you are feeling this resentment because you are feeling
Speaker 3: your separation, your distance from us. You are never ever,
Speaker 3: ever alone. As long as you feel you know your connection.
Speaker 3: To teach yourself to practice the slowing of that very
Speaker 3: rapid fire thought. This is perhaps for you a bit
Speaker 3: of a challenge in the surrender of this. The body
Speaker 3: gives this a bit of a fight. The body does
Speaker 3: not want to How long is this going to last?
Speaker 3: How long do I have to sit here? How long
Speaker 3: do I have to lay here? I don't like doing this?
Speaker 3: Why is this happening? Why wle my mind stop? I
Speaker 3: can't do this. I've got to get a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1: I'm up.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is meditation. This is for everyone, the practice
Speaker 3: of slowing down the thought for five minutes in meditation,
Speaker 3: every day to ten minutes to ultimately two hours if
Speaker 3: you wish, is a practice that will allow you to
Speaker 3: slow the thoughts when you are consciously moving about. When
Speaker 3: you can slow the thought as you are moving about,
Speaker 3: and you begin to see that everything that is occurring
Speaker 3: is occurring just for you. It is your universe. You
Speaker 3: are your own. You slow the thought, and you catch
Speaker 3: when you feel a bit of annoyance, when you feel
Speaker 3: a bit of resentment, when you feel angry, when you
Speaker 3: feel hopeless, when you feel overwhelmed. You will recognize this
Speaker 3: feeling and you will say, ah, what is the thought
Speaker 3: I am thinking? Ah, I am looking at this from
Speaker 3: a very low perspective. Let me shift that how could
Speaker 3: this be for me? And you shift your perspective up.
Speaker 3: It is quite within your power to do this. You
Speaker 3: will maintain this feeling of connection with your inner self
Speaker 3: with every step you take. Do you understand what we
Speaker 3: are saying to you?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yes, thank you.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: One last question, I know in my reality, led Zeppelin
Speaker 1: sang dream on, and yet in this one apparently Aerosmith
Speaker 1: sang it. So can you confirm that I did indeed
Speaker 1: hop universes in my universe? Led Zeppelin sang dream on.
Speaker 3: You are speaking of this idea of shifting timelines. Yes,
Speaker 3: in many arenas it is being discussed as the New Earth,
Speaker 3: the splitting of the planet. This is something that is
Speaker 3: occurring constantly. It is infinite. The awakening of many of
Speaker 3: you on the planet is a notice of this sort
Speaker 3: of thing and a greater belief by the collective that
Speaker 3: this is perhaps possible. Know this. You have set yourself
Speaker 3: up to be here on this planet at this specific
Speaker 3: time because this is what you chose, what you wanted,
Speaker 3: and as a collective, you have all agreed to experience
Speaker 3: the Mandela effect and the New Earth and World War
Speaker 3: two occurred prior to your birth. You all agreed on
Speaker 3: all of this as a collective, much of it simply
Speaker 3: for your own entertainment. This is supposed to be fun,
Speaker 3: and isn't that fun too? Simply know and perhaps have
Speaker 3: others who agree with you, and sit across the table
Speaker 3: from those that you love who coach ltely know that
Speaker 3: you are wrong, and they see it this way, and
Speaker 3: you can look it up on your little tiny telephones
Speaker 3: and prove that you are both correct. This is extraordinary,
Speaker 3: and it is fun, and it is for no other purpose.
Speaker 3: Than for your entertainment, So do enjoy.
Speaker 1: Unless it's those times when I am definitely in the
Speaker 1: right and those others are in the wrong. I totally understand.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you for coming and talking
Speaker 1: to us. We know that you are Christie's teachers and
Speaker 1: we appreciate you sharing of her and yourself with us.
Speaker 1: So thank you for coming.
Speaker 3: Thank you, We know you, and we love you.
Speaker 1: Hi, welcome back.
Speaker 3: Was that fun?
Speaker 2: That was?
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. Actually, yes, did you
Speaker 1: get you need? Okay? I got both of the answers
Speaker 1: I needed.
Speaker 3: Yes, did you okay? Good? All? Yeah, they're good. They'll
Speaker 3: they'll answer yeah. You usually will have to listen to
Speaker 3: it a few times to actually hear the answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah what Yeah, I mean I was. I was hyper fixated.
Speaker 1: I was super connected, So I know I heard the message.
Speaker 1: I know, and I always do. I always listen to
Speaker 1: the shows back several times anyway, for quality assurance purposes. Really,
Speaker 1: I learned more doing these shows, and I anyone else
Speaker 1: was listening to the show. Trust me, it's this is
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 3: But yeah, isn't that great? That's why you do it?
Speaker 3: You do it for you. I'm just going to tell
Speaker 3: people that because it's true. And eventually, if I'm trying
Speaker 3: to put some image out that I'm trying to save
Speaker 3: the planet, that's going to catch up with me. I'm
Speaker 3: not doing that.
Speaker 1: Nope, nope, No, this is definitely a selfish adventure. But
Speaker 1: if we can help others in the in the pursuit
Speaker 1: of our own education, then it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, yeah, following your bliss. That's
Speaker 3: the thing. There are people that are asking you're following
Speaker 3: something you love and it's not going to harm anyone.
Speaker 3: When it comes from love, it is always going to
Speaker 3: be a benefit to everyone.
Speaker 1: It touches right. Definitely. Well, Christy, this has been so
Speaker 1: much fun. If someone wanted to reach out to you
Speaker 1: or learn more about you, get one of your sessions
Speaker 1: with you. I know that you're doing less one on one,
Speaker 1: doing more group sessions and things. I know you and
Speaker 1: Gary do this retweets. What's the best way for someone
Speaker 1: to get in touch with you?
Speaker 3: My website is Christylevy dot com, so that's a pretty
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have had the chance to meet
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Speaker 3: So thank you, Oh good glad. This has been great.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having you. Can't think of
Speaker 3: a better way to spend an hour. It was great.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. That's I feel I'm going to cry.
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Now, truly, we know that you don't do a lot
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