WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.280 W m n H rip the novels. 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:11.240 If you're listening to macconnorton Unleashed on w m n 3 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:12.919 H ninety five point. 4 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:23.160 Three, we're back from the brand. 5 00:00:23.640 --> 00:01:04.840 Macconson whiskey on the new Bread. 6 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:07.480 One night, I want to op it. 7 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:13.760 I cashed in my silver tongue before the night's done. 8 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.719 In an alley or a condo. 9 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.040 Leave me somewhere I don't know. I mean my way 10 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:30.159 back home by the first night. Son, you're trying to 11 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:31.640 leave my past. 12 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.840 All love your reference. I wait your path. 13 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:39.319 I death my math on the thirty streets and every 14 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:41.359 day of grasp being in door. 15 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:51.239 In the bowl yard we drink. 16 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:54.760 I'll see alone to think. 17 00:01:56.040 --> 00:02:00.280 About how far the death blood help for stads. 18 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.560 Read all the way to home on this. 19 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:11.680 Fun punch struck off wisdom, punching up my weight, and 20 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:13.199 I was punching back. 21 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.159 You're trying to leave my mask. 22 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.599 All of your repents are way too fast. 23 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:24.800 I left my mouth on. 24 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:29.080 The thirty streets and every plate of braspban in joke. 25 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:39.199 Let's talk about all the renovation lost in my disorientation. 26 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:42.560 Stepping back in time, I'm thinking about everything. 27 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:43.599 Go offication. 28 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:46.479 I take a trink with offer and set the great 29 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.000 side off my inn sas could you, which you call insul. 30 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.560 It's tirected out there the Bible have fillow. 31 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.199 With STI still. 32 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:04.159 Kaptized in the mystic river. 33 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:07.120 I emerge, but mora. 34 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:11.840 Siner eight sanday ss onst and I with delt. 35 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.720 There was no way of blop. 36 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:23.839 You had to stand up, ignoring Mordy himself. 37 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:25.240 Stay with help. 38 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.680 You're trying to to leave my past and. 39 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.600 All of your abits await your past. I've left my 40 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.680 mouth on the dirty streets, and every made of brass 41 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:44.040 bed in your breed, another coat of pain of a 42 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:48.240 white bosh breaking my bread for the bast to field up. 43 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:53.120 All of this work is done in brain. You'll never 44 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:57.160 find every Stay. He'll tell you what trying to do. 45 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.639 Itsane you. 46 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:08.839 Oh yeah. If that doesn't get you, move and check 47 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:10.839 your pulse, you might be dead. I love it. That 48 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:15.240 is punch drunk. The band is bf Raid, Boston's Final Raid. 49 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:16.800 And we got a couple of the guys from the 50 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:18.279 band here with us. We're gonna talk to them in 51 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:21.079 just a moment, but welcome everybody. We have entered our 52 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:24.519 number two newmarrow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed and we 53 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.959 are live from the studios of w m NH ninety 54 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:31.279 five point three FM Inglorious, Manchester, New Hampshire. And of 55 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:33.040 course you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to 56 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:37.160 Matt condorton dot com slash live for all your live 57 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:40.959 streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, et cetera, 58 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:45.040 et cetera. Today is Saturday, August twenty two, two thousand 59 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:48.079 twenty six. Let's get these mics on. So we've got 60 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:51.920 Bruce Owens returning to the show and Jamie Forbes with 61 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:55.120 us as well from the band bf Raid, Boston's Final Raid. 62 00:05:55.160 --> 00:06:00.399 How you doing, guys doing? Welcome, Welcome, Welcome and combat Zone. 63 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:02.720 So this is very new. This just came out end 64 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.920 of July. Correct. Yep, the album combat Zone fantastic. Yeah. 65 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:08.800 I listened to the whole thing really good. I love it. 66 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:10.839 Oh and I got, of course the package you sent 67 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.600 with the flash drive and everything. Oh. Speaking of which, yeah, 68 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:16.319 you did walk in with a bag of stuff, didn't you. 69 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:20.279 Oh my god, you guys, You guys takes such good 70 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.040 care of us. Here, I'm gonna for those of you 71 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:24.560 watching the video, I'm gonna put the uh put this 72 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:26.319 back on myself for a minute. So we got a 73 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:30.199 bag here with the band's logo on one side. Oh, 74 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.879 and of course combat Zone, the album on the other. 75 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.399 And this is a This feels like there's a lot 76 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:41.040 of stuff in here. Oh my god. So the vinyl 77 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:47.120 a vinyl copy. There's the front, there's the back of 78 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:48.040 combat Zone. 79 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:49.160 Oh that's the first album. 80 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:51.040 Oh, the first album. I'm sorry, I rate it again, 81 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:53.240 which goes with the T shirt that I'm wearing because 82 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.040 you're you were generous last time too and brought brought goodies. 83 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:58.399 So I'm wearing the T shirt that's the first album. Yep. 84 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:05.839 Oh this is Yeah. These have the stick some these 85 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:07.879 have more. Oh Jenny loves stickers, by the way, I 86 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.160 don't know if you remember that. You remember that from 87 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:13.120 last time? Yeah, thank you. So these these are full 88 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:17.240 of full of stickers. And let's see what else. Oh 89 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:22.720 got a shirt a shirt for new album. Oh yeah, 90 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.519 for the new album combat Zone. Wow. Look at that. 91 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.439 I'm trying to describe describe this all the best I 92 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:32.639 can for our audio listeners. But very nice, very nice. 93 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:35.480 Matt Bruce's Santa Claus. 94 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.720 He really is. This is incredible. No listen sometimes guests 95 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:44.600 bring us goodies, but this is way above and beyond. Yeah, 96 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:45.839 and he did that last time too. 97 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:46.360 I remember too. 98 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.959 He brought us more stuff than any other guest ever has. 99 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.079 He's second, he's second to Gene Simmons. But he doesn't 100 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:52.959 shod you for it. 101 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:54.800 So we got yeah, two shirts, one for me, one 102 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.959 for Jenny. Thank you so much. And what is in this? Oh? 103 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:00.879 This is interesting? Okay, So here's a box. It's got 104 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:04.800 the a variation of your logo from the Bruins, the 105 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.759 Boston Bruins. I'm not a sports ball fan, so I'm 106 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:12.759 slow on that. But uh my god. Oh, by the way, 107 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:14.879 we still use the last time you brought us a mug. 108 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:18.720 We still we still use that mug afraid? Oh is it? 109 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:20.759 Yeah? 110 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:25.480 So this is oh my goodness. We open this up here. 111 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.560 Very nice. Another thermos if you will. Would thermists be 112 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:34.159 the right term or travel travel mug? Yeah? Yeah, very cool. 113 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:36.639 And it's got the graphics for the boy. This is 114 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:39.759 this is the real deal too, Like this is not 115 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:42.480 a cheap thing, No, this is this is really. 116 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:45.279 I use mine every day. 117 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.159 Oh my god, yeah, very cool. It looks like this 118 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.720 two of them here, so wonderful. Thank you so much. Whoops, 119 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:52.600 put that down for a second because I see yet 120 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:58.639 something else in here? Uh bfraid? Uh would you call 121 00:08:58.639 --> 00:08:59.399 that a bottle opener? 122 00:08:59.480 --> 00:08:59.679 Yeah? 123 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.320 I don't drink, so I don't know rarely opened bottles. 124 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:07.519 But these are very cool. Thank you got two of 125 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:10.759 those too, Thank you guys so much. Bus you really 126 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:13.399 are Santa, it's amazing, amazing. 127 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.399 Next time you see, like, if you happen to watch 128 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:17.519 Coach and bro like Coach, make sure he has the 129 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:19.399 mug visible on his desk. 130 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:24.320 Yeah, oh absolutely, absolutely, Well, geez, you know what you 131 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.600 gave me an idea. If I put this right here, 132 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:31.159 there you go, there we go. Excellent. That's a very 133 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.679 good I get that. That's right exactly exactly. Wow, thank 134 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:36.120 you guys. 135 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:40.720 Well, it's funny because since the new album came out 136 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.919 and I didn't tell you Jamie yet, I was checking 137 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:48.039 out on merch logs. Now merch is blowing up good, excellent, 138 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.080 big time. I mean numbers that are really impressive. 139 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.639 So I think I think with the shirt, whether you 140 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:57.440 like the band or not, it's a cool shirt. 141 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:00.440 It is a cool shirt. Yeah, yeah, absolute. 142 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:02.360 And what we had to do to what Bruce had 143 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:05.279 to do to get the image. Yes, but you were 144 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:07.000 involved in a lot of that too. Well no, I 145 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:08.639 mean you had to deal with that. 146 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:11.120 You know, what did you have to do to get 147 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:11.600 the image? 148 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:14.559 Well, when we first started looking for the album art, 149 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:19.159 Matt is big against Ai. Okay, so we were like, okay, 150 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:21.200 we're going to use a photograph. And we found a 151 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:25.399 photograph of the Grain Street in like the nineteen seventies 152 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:30.600 with a seventies car on one side. It was daybreak, 153 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:34.080 so there was a prostitute walking down the street ending 154 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:37.360 her shift and a blue collar guy walking in the 155 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:42.080 other direction starting his ok we thought it was perfect. 156 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:46.559 It took me a month to hunt down the guy 157 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.399 that owned the rights to the picture, and he wanted 158 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:56.200 us to pay pretty much our recording budget licensed professional? 159 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:58.799 Was this the professor or. 160 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:00.879 Yeah, I don't even want to say, what's schoolies from? 161 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.720 But he wanted a lot of money. Yeah, So we 162 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:07.960 kept hunting. We found a picture we liked in the 163 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:12.639 City of Boston archives of a theater in nineteen sixty three. 164 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:13.360 Yeah. 165 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:16.679 City of Boston said, go ahead, use it free album 166 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:17.120 for free? 167 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:18.559 Oh no kidding, excellent. 168 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.159 Yeah, We're like great. We put it on some of 169 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.279 the march and it started getting rejected because there was 170 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:29.679 a woman on one of the posters in the theater 171 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:36.039 that was scantily dressed, and AI kept saying, oh, that's 172 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.120 a naked woman. Oh okay, and they kept bouncing it. 173 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:42.799 So we were like, we don't want to upload the 174 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:46.440 album cover to platforms and have the same problem because 175 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:49.039 it isn't a human looking at it and the album's 176 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:53.480 getting rejected. So we finally found the cover ut we're 177 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:57.039 using from this guy, robit Post. He was awesome, he 178 00:11:57.120 --> 00:12:02.120 worked with us, he gave us a great price. Yeah, 179 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:08.159 the post artworks on the front City Boss not work 180 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:10.960 is in the back. And another guy gave us outwork 181 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.120 for the inside of the CD. 182 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:15.480 Okay, okay, No, it came out great. 183 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:15.840 Yeah. 184 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.840 Wasn't there any problems? Wasn't there some problems with this 185 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:20.799 platform wise in the beginning? 186 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:23.799 Yeah, well not make up bound because of the City 187 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:24.919 of Boston picture. 188 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:27.679 No, this one that we have now, no, No. 189 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:28.759 It's been smooth. 190 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:30.000 Yeah, oh good good. 191 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:33.120 So it was a process just to have the art. Yeah, 192 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:36.080 but we would dead set on combat Zone. 193 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:38.320 Yeah. While worth it where. 194 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.000 Everybody says, oh that the naked eye. 195 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:42.159 Yeah, and even if you don't know the band, I 196 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:44.600 don't think there's any T shirts out there with the 197 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:47.399 Naked Eye in the Pilgrim Theater on it. So, right, 198 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:52.399 anyone who's like a Bostonian just like seize the shirt 199 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:53.000 and they love it. 200 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:55.679 Oh yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Awesome. 201 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.240 I've had several people like again, like you know, friends 202 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.200 of ours that are not into the band, but I 203 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:03.039 want that shirt. Yeah that's great, you know, like an 204 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.679 NWA shirt, you know that's the Yeah. I almost wore 205 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:09.559 one because I heard you were into it. 206 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.080 Yeah it was I was like, well, anything Kiss related 207 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:14.720 is a good choice too. My favorite band. 208 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:18.879 So and the cool thing about having that Naked Eye 209 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:23.000 on the cover is Naked Eye was on Washington Street 210 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:28.679 in Boston, Okay. Its address was six six six Washington Street. 211 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:29.159 Kid. 212 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:34.279 Yeah, the most club in Boston. 213 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:37.360 Yeah six oh wow, Oh that's cool. 214 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:41.240 I work in the Seaport, so, like I took a 215 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.840 stroll over there a couple of weeks ago just to yeah, 216 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:46.360 try to feel it. Yeah, I mean there's still some 217 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:50.000 structure there, but it's like the seaport alone was packing 218 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.600 lots thirteen years ago and now it's a whole city. 219 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.840 Oh yeah, but the ghosts are there in the farm 220 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:57.639 bet zone. 221 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:00.200 Right right, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So is that 222 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.120 kind of the theme of the album, I mean, tell 223 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:04.000 us about the album. 224 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:04.159 So. 225 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.360 Not really by design, but it evolved to be what 226 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:14.519 I call an auto audio documentary about Boston because a 227 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:19.960 lot of the songs are really autobiographical, with the exception 228 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:23.320 of Bullets from the Board, but even the songs that 229 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:28.000 Billy wrote are really about his past experiences growing up 230 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.799 in Boston, first meeting his wife on Causeway Street, things 231 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:36.639 of that nature. So there's a lot of songs. Punch 232 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:37.879 Drunk is about our hometown. 233 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:42.399 Ultimately, it starts in our hometown, on our block that 234 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:44.639 Bruce and I grew up on and Billy on the 235 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:45.559 other side. 236 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:49.320 We grew up in the same neighborhood, but Jamie's younger 237 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:53.799 than me, so you know, we didn't really meet each 238 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:57.080 other until a little bit later, you know, when I 239 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:59.639 was in my early twenties, Jamie was in his late 240 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.840 teen But yeah, so we grew up with the same 241 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:07.639 kind of experience and people. So Punch Trunk is about 242 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:14.360 I was driving through Malden and and it's core. It's 243 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:19.440 a very crude song, but I've hidden the crudeness of 244 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:23.200 what it's about. But I was driving through Malden and 245 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.840 I was remembering an encounter with a young lady as 246 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:29.399 I was driving by our house. Then I get a 247 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:32.600 couple of blocks away and I can remember an encounter, 248 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.279 another one a few blocks down, and then I drove 249 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.720 by our own rehearsal studio and I'm looking around and 250 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:44.919 I could still see that the city has totally changed. 251 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:47.919 But there were like little places where I can remember 252 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.720 maybe a fight here or a kissed there, or and 253 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:55.080 still kind of left my mark in the city. So 254 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:58.279 our hometown has totally changed. 255 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:01.200 Just three day years ago, I was. I was on 256 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.960 the phone with them and I had to because my 257 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.399 family house is still in that town. Yeah, And I 258 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:10.759 was like, Bruce, would you I went to all the 259 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:13.399 areas that are mentioned in the song, that are all 260 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:16.720 but I was just sending them video footage, just like clips, right, 261 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:19.159 because he was trying to put the put together a video, 262 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.120 and he did end up using some okay, But like 263 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.480 the boneyard is mentioned in the song, Bruce, was the 264 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.039 boneyard the graveyard or was it in the back of 265 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:30.799 the graveyard. 266 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:35.399 There was a graveyard if you left our high school. 267 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:39.320 There were train tracks right there, which had a live 268 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.480 train back in the day. Okay, so you come out 269 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.200 of the high school, go by the tracks, and there 270 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:48.559 was a hole that probably the generation before me had 271 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:50.720 ripped in the chain link fence. She could go into 272 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:54.039 the graveyard and you were hidden away and people could 273 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:58.080 smoke various things or fronk beers back there. Yeah, and 274 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.759 it's so funny that, like we would it was called 275 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:05.880 the boneyard because a free roll was called a bone 276 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:09.720 back then, okay, and people will go to the boneyard. 277 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:16.119 And like Jamie was like younger than me, and by 278 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:17.920 the time I had moved on and I was hanging 279 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.039 out in clubs, him and his teenage fronts were drinking 280 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:24.359 in the boneyard. It was like a past on kind 281 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:27.279 of thing from And I'm sure there's kids that are 282 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.200 drinking in the boneyard right now. So it's kind of 283 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:32.559 a cool little area. But it's right in the middle 284 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:36.000 of downtown and the cops can definitely see what's going on, 285 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.000 but you just kind of leave people alone. 286 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:39.519 Oh really, we know where you. 287 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:44.440 Are, right right, yeah, thing, Yeah, yeah, I'll turn into 288 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:46.640 a condo haven, you know what I mean, because it's 289 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:48.920 right next to the Orange line. So it's just like 290 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:53.359 the workforce that makes sense, and there was generations of 291 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:57.039 families that have been there for fifty sixty years. Yeah, 292 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:57.799 it's no more. 293 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:00.920 Yeah, our dad's and Billie went to Malden to high 294 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:01.599 before we did. 295 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:05.839 Oh really yeah, oh wow, yeah, no kidding, no kidding. 296 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:09.440 So where did you record this? Because this album took 297 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.680 a long time, right, like it seems like like almost 298 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:14.079 two years and you got yeah, and you guys really 299 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:15.440 and part of why I know that is because you 300 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.279 guys were really documenting it on on social media as 301 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:18.839 you were recording. 302 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.319 Well, as soon as we finished Rated Again, we went 303 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:23.839 right to work. It was almost like having a second 304 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:26.119 child before thinking about it. It's just like we don't 305 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.960 do this now, we might not do it, so like 306 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:31.680 we were just committed to it. You know, we're not 307 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:35.079 Spring Chicken. So we just we went right to work 308 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.400 on the second one. Yeah, right after Rated Again was released. 309 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:42.160 Wow, So we used the same studio the record go okay, 310 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:46.519 and we like the place. It feels like home to us. 311 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:51.920 And we used to say engineer who is a genius. 312 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:54.240 Yeah. If it wasn't for the engineer, you know what 313 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:56.160 I mean, it wouldn't have been an automatic. We would 314 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:59.720 have went back there. But yeah, since he you know, 315 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:03.000 he was like the fifth member, okay. Yeah, and it 316 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:06.039 was just like knows our nuances, knows. 317 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:08.880 Our moods, yep, yep. 318 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:12.799 But most important, he's knows my drums, Like he mixed 319 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:15.720 my drums better than any project I've ever been in. Yeah, 320 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:17.839 because he's a drummer, so he was, oh perfect, I 321 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:19.920 had that advantage perfect. 322 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:20.359 Yeah. 323 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:23.039 Yeah, he really knows us well and what we want 324 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:25.920 and how to communicate with us. And I'll give him 325 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:29.039 a shout out. He actually just opened up his own 326 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:34.960 recording studio okay and Waltham called One Horse Recording. It's 327 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:39.079 the old Wellly Mammoth studio set was owned by David 328 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.200 Minihan from the neighborhoods. 329 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:41.440 Oh no kidding. 330 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.480 So he bought that and it was one last track 331 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.519 I had to do, and I went over to the 332 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.759 new studio to do that track. Yeah, and it's beautiful, 333 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.519 it's really nice and it was easy to work in. 334 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:58.559 So yeah, well you can't leave out where the record 335 00:19:58.799 --> 00:19:59.440 Cole was. 336 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:01.720 Oh yea yeah. So that was the inspiration for a 337 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:02.640 lot of the album too. 338 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:07.720 Yeah, right in the heart of methadone mile. Oh really, 339 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:11.799 you're in the middle of it. It was like this look, 340 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:15.680 you know, gem in this you know, dark place, and 341 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:19.559 it did inspire you know a lot, you know, a 342 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:23.359 lot of the attitude, the nastiness, you know, the ugliness 343 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:27.720 of the world too. But it's really in the middle 344 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:28.119 of the method. 345 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:33.400 The Greatest Show really was kind of born during the 346 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.079 Raided Against sessions because there's these giant windows in the 347 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.240 recording studio that look out right at the middle of 348 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:46.759 mass and casts and we could watch drug deals every day. 349 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:48.920 Some day I had some recorded. Bruce was like, no, no, no, no, 350 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.799 really like stuff that would go good with a video, 351 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:54.680 but it would have been yeah. 352 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:58.880 And one of the things was we would see, you know, 353 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:02.880 these young crosstitutes like twenty feet away from us on 354 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:06.359 the other side of the glass, and at first you 355 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:09.480 have this voyeuristic kind of thing, and then after a 356 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:12.000 while you kind of get sick to your stomach because 357 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:15.119 these girls are whacked out on drugs. They can barely 358 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:20.079 stand up. There's strangers picking them up. And that's what 359 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:23.599 really got me to write the greatest show in town, 360 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:29.039 because you know, these girls to treated as adult entertainment. 361 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.839 And I know some people have the libertarian idea about 362 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:36.759 prostitution and people can do with their body what they 363 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:39.960 want to do, but most of these girls that are 364 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.480 out there aren't doing it because they want to do 365 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:44.839 it a lot of times to being forced to be 366 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:49.599 out there traf And what really hits me the hardest, 367 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:51.720 and I kind of make a point of the song, 368 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.640 is probably like ninety percent of these girls have been 369 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:00.519 are victims of sexual abuse, and it hits me hard 370 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:04.880 that when they're young girls and their abuse, all of 371 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:07.279 us want to get the pitchforks, grub the abuser, and 372 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.680 drag them out and to whatever to them. Right, they 373 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:16.160 hit eighteen, they kicked out the system, and they end 374 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:19.160 up on the streets and now they're a cautionary teal 375 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:22.359 while people drive by in point and laugh and it's like, well, 376 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.200 why did you care so much about that girl two 377 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:28.680 years ago when she was seventeen sixteen, But now that 378 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:31.960 she's eighteen nineteen, Now it's a joke and it's not. 379 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.839 I mean, that's a really good insight. 380 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:37.960 You know, they're in rough shape and hiety. 381 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:40.759 All of them looked like junkies either, like somewhere in 382 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:41.960 the early stages that. 383 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.039 You would you wow, you you know what I mean, 384 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:45.839 right right. 385 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:48.160 I think the thing that disturbed me the most about 386 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:52.920 those visuals was, you know, those addicts having no control 387 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.599 of their body, you know, and having you know, they 388 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:57.960 were just yeah. 389 00:22:58.599 --> 00:22:59.839 I know what you mean. Yeah. 390 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.240 And the freaky thing was there was a four one 391 00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:08.880 fifty at Boston Police if you're listening, that will pull 392 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:12.799 up in the alley across from the studio every day 393 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:16.480 at ten, I mean eleven am on the dot really 394 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:19.920 and it will pull in in a line with form 395 00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:24.079 and they would just start selling fentanyl. Really, And it 396 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.559 was every day at and I'm like, if I can 397 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:29.440 see this and the police stations down the street, why 398 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:30.119 don't you see this? 399 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:30.640 Right? 400 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:33.480 And every day at eleven, the guy would pull into 401 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:36.559