Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice,
mixing some vodka. It's colored The podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dods jeep Ram. It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well,
hello and welcome, plea. You survived the past couple of days.
To survive always okay? Snow yeah, I know, and drinking,
Well that's the thing, and uh yeah, I was talking
to relatives today. It's like they're calling it snow crete
in Virginia because it's frozen and it's literally taking you
know how when they do the paving of the road,
they rip the road up. They're using those to tear
up the ice because they can't they on salt. Well,
the salt won't work at certain temperatures.
Speaker 2: So that cold down there, like yeah, it's like like,
because I don't like plasids, they use sand.
Speaker 1: It's a mess up there. Yeah, they didn't know they're
not using sand. They use uh yeah, they were, that's
what they were using the salt and it's not working
at certain temperatures. It's been so cold and give.
Speaker 2: It a couple of days, let it melt. Sit in
the house, drink and do what you gotta do. You
all cleared out, stopping down. It's all I got down there.
Speaker 1: They yeah, I guess. It's been like twenty degrees sometimes
during the day, so it's the top layer of melt,
and then at night it gets down to like eleven
and it freezes up again.
Speaker 2: Oh gee, twenty that's like a heat wave here right now.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Well, they're not gonna play. They're
just like they're just not equipped to handle, you know
what I mean, Like people can't. The school's been closed
all week. Oh boo freaking who it's just the way.
It's funny school now.
Speaker 2: For stupid reason. Oh it's too cold. Like our friend
over here is walking district. It's like, get it for
his district. But like Greece, Hilton, it's little.
Speaker 1: Kids waiting for the bus. I don't know what they do.
Speaker 2: But we all grew up and got through it.
Speaker 1: We did. We actually did.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: We have two I'm gonna say, and maybe you'll correct me.
I'm not sure to elite student athletes, elite welles hockey
players that are teammates on a travel team correct, and
then opponents on a school team and you know, it's
your son Tyler Muir, and then and then Jack Springer
who goes to is it Irondicqoint East or West West? Yeah,
that's the uh so you get to face off each
other on the ice all the time. But I always think,
like people say student athlete, like it's one word, and
it actually feels like two full time jobs. I would think,
And you're at Aquinas, which is I'm not saying that
where your friend Jack goes. Is this I'm saying you're dumb.
But no, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying it's not
as good. I'm just saying, like I remember, like my
son went to a private school too, and that the
amount of work is a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, good amount.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what what You're in eleventh grade? Yeah, so
this is kind of like a big year in high school. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Academically, yeah, between looking at colleges and trying to figure
out what I want to do in the future.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the but academically, like how is it trying to.
Speaker 4: It's not bad. I mean, I have study hall classes
every other day other than its flip flop every other Friday.
I have a gym on Friday, but I usually do
my work in study hall and then I'll do it
in lunch took if I really have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so you and do you get enough sleep? Yeah?
Because I remember my kid was up to like sometimes
three in the morning doing homework.
Speaker 2: He's up to three o'clock in the morning and playing
video games after he cans.
Speaker 4: I haven't played video games a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Same thing for you, Jack, Like being the student athlete,
it's not that bad.
Speaker 3: I have two study halls a day, Yeah, So I
get my work done in study halls normally, and then
maybe if I have extra, I'll do it at home
after practice.
Speaker 1: What's harder to manage? You? Like your time or your
energy for all this stuff too, Because I know you're young, right,
and but you know you're working out lifting, trying to
put on some bulk whatever that is. It's a lot.
Speaker 4: I'd probably say my time, your time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: For practices, we can practice from we got out of
school two forty four, and we all we get to
the rink by three o'clock say it. We'll have a
three forty five practice, will be on the ice by
three fifteen, So we'll be skating from about three fifteen
to like four thirty four, four fifty and then go
home eat and then if any work I have to do,
I'll do it then.
Speaker 1: So when did you realize, Like, I mean, you're one
of the best in Monroe County players? Is that fair
to say? Yeah? Okay, I mean I'm not trying to
pick on anything, but like, do you feel a lot
of pressure with that? Is there? Uh?
Speaker 4: Not really? No, No, I just kind of go go
out there and play, Like I don't look at my
I don't look at my personal stats. I'm more of
like a team guy, Like I'd rather go for like
quieas hockey. I'd rather go and have fifteen points all
season and do as much as I kind of help
my team win, right sexual title, Like, I'm I'm not
a guy that's gonna look at my stats and be like, oh,
like this game, this game, we're not playing a good team.
I want to go out there and try and get
five points. Like I want to do as much as
I can, obviously, but I want to make sure we're
going to win that game and help our team succeed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so your team first guy, Yeah, would you say
the same thing or do you just the glory and
the statue he likes. He likes the glory, the goals
and the girls, baby, the goals and the girls, the
hockey bunnies. No, no, what like I gotta think that
there's the girls have got to be all about the
hockey team.
Speaker 4: No, I don't look at that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either, honestly. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, your equipment smells awful after games and stuff.
Speaker 2: But they both have girlfriends, so they're gonna both. They're
gonna both answer that question.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, have you ever had a day where
you felt so drained, like test and studying and all
this crap, that you just you're like having to go
to practice. I don't, I don't have it. I don't,
I don't have it. Today it almost felt like impossible
to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I just got over being sick so at school,
like I've just been not having it to zone and out,
always getting up go and blow my nose, and then
when I get to practice, I'm just I'm just dad
by like skating hard to breathe can't catch my breath.
Speaker 1: It was really yeah, and but you just pushed through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So like two weeks ago, we went to like Placid
and we played McQuaid on Tuesday and I we lost.
We lost, and I went went home, slept, went to
school the next day and I had chills through two periods,
went home and found out I have a fever of
one hundred and three.
Speaker 1: And you were out there playing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the day before. I thought I had a concussion
that night, but I didn't. I woke up the next
day in my head was fine.
Speaker 2: And then he just talks like he has a concussion.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. You thought
you had a concussion and you went to sleep anyway
you did where you checked.
Speaker 4: I like went home and like just try to like
sleep it off. Like I like went home and like
turn all my lights off.
Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty sure, and I don't know a lot.
I'm just saying I don't know much, and I'm certainly
not a doctor. I don't know if you don't know
aware of that, but I hear going to sleep is
like one of the worst things you can do for
a concussion is that. I see do you know that, Jack.
Speaker 2: I've heard it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have Have you had concussions? I've had one, yeah,
so yeah, and you don't know. And like I took
one of my kids when they were wrestling, they got
a concussion and I wound up taking them to like
an i optalmologist and they were in the back of
the eye going and we can still see like the
nerve damage there. So when they're clearing people to go back,
they're not really clear.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I was told when Sam had
Sam's had a couple that they can't actually diagnose a concussion. Okay,
then they can see signs of you're messed up, but
they can't actually say you have a concussion or you
don't have a concussion. They could just test the signs,
and they have all this testing that they do with
it to kind of baseline things, and then you go
through a few days and you go back and you
retake the test, and you see how far you've gotten
from the baseline, either up or back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because I wonder this too with you guys.
Like a lot of times, I always found when I
was playing sports, I was actually a better student in school.
I don't and I know you're playing like almost all
year round, and I would assume you are as well, Right,
don't you guys start in July? Is it junior July
the three late July early August, late July early August. Okay,
I was left by a couple of weeks, but still,
I mean, and I just I think like you kind
of learn that performance in one area actually affects performance
in another, and you can you can kind of do better.
Do you see that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, actually I like to put my my schoolwork first.
Like our coach always preaches that if you have work
to do, like you have to go to a st
hall after school or any review like, go like, don't
worry about going to practice. He doesn't want any of
us get ineligible.
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, of course, what what is what's the
cutoff for eligibility?
Speaker 4: I think it's two failing grades at the end of
the quarter semester.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, all right, same thing for you? Is
it two failing or three two?
Speaker 2: How about for you? I know you started out the
season going in, leaving the travel team and going to
the tryouts, messed up your knee a little bit and
you were out for a little while. How how was
that for you? Not being able to be out there
and help. It sucked. I hated every second of it.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be out there so bad helping them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I it's it's got to be a
thing where you guys have played since what age Jack
very young, like four, maybe four, Tyler like seven, I
think seven. Yeah, so like really young ages, and you've
both fell in love with this sport. Yeah, and it's
it's what is that what you want to do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to try. Oh if maybe not like
Division three, probably right now. If not, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean Division three isn't a terrible idea in that
the transfer port opens up for people, and you know,
we see I mean even before the transfer portal, there
were guys who were making it in the pros. Playing
at a lower level in college doesn't mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there was like the big hockey Division one schools.
They got these club teams, and I've seen a couple
guys on the club teams actually getting called up to
go play for the Division one team. I think a
goaltender from Michigan just got called up the other day.
Speaker 1: Okay, so, and I think.
Speaker 4: A guy I think last year my brother was at Quinnipiac,
there was a kid on the club team that got
called up to go play.
Speaker 1: It used to be like towel snapping in a locker
room and guys like, we used to have one room
with just showerheads. Do you have stalls or do you
have show just one room with shower heads, one room,
I would saye yeah, And so everybody's in there, and
you'd be somebody be washing their hair and they'd have
their eyes closed, and somebody else would come over and
pee on their leg, and I.
Speaker 2: Think for somebody would soak themselves up and push off
the wall and steal before they could get down the hallway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did that, but I did that. But I
just think like that kind of stuff isn't it doesn't
does it play anymore? Is there? Or is that just
that's bullying?
Speaker 3: I would say it's I don't want to say it's bullying,
but I don't think it's like allowed anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so cowl snapping, you can't snap a tallet a call.
I mean that's just boys being boys, messing around.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, this is interesting. This part's interesting to
me because that was like my whole thing. I used
to love that. I mean, God, we taped one kid
to a bench once, and.
Speaker 2: That's bullying snapping at a kid. I don't know if
that's really no.
Speaker 1: But I mean like it was just and to me,
it was just like play I I want. So I
was little and I was in a school seven through
twelve and I was picking on the older guy so
badly with my mouth running, my mouth run. They three
of them picked me up and they were gonna dunk
me in the toilet, and I grabbed onto the stall door,
but I was upside down and they just left me
there because I would not let go, and then they
were fight. Somebody's gonna come in and see me. So
I'm hanging upside down and this other kid came in
and named muscles. He was like this big, he was
like a year younger than them, and he helped me out.
I was in seventh grade, and that was like you
had a sixth grader come pick you up off the wall. Huh,
you did have a sixth cratter come pick it was
a tenth grader. Tenth grader, they came and picked me up.
But the thing that was so funny is like that
was like a playground. To me. That was where every
stupid dumb thing, you know what I mean, Like you
know you were I don't know, you would have people
like sitting down and make sure there was tape on there.
I don't know, and none of that happens anymore.
Speaker 2: Did they still do the tape a little slice of
tape on the bottom of your skate blade?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so something like that. Yeah, wow, I
guess I really was it. Dick just realized why, Like
I thought, that's what everybody did. I swear to god, man,
I thought everybody in locker room.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, the eighties of the nineties
were a different time in locker rooms. I mean, yeah, oh,
there was a lot more bullying, and it was it
was how it was, and I just like the older
kids beat the hell out of the younger kids. That's
what made the younger kids want to be better because
they didn't want get the chickike out of them.
Speaker 1: So I always thought that the like that was sort
of the way it went. And now it sounds like
it's been eradicated, like it just doesn't happen. Yeah, that's
I get. That's a good thing.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, places will be cushioned here and there, all right, Well, yeah,
that's just nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, you're right. I gotta remember somebody
got there like the back of their head shaved kinds
of stupid stuff.
Speaker 2: Are you guys dying your hair again this year for sectionals?
Because that that's always a cute look for you guys.
Speaker 1: Either doing that or mullets. Oh, the mullet's back and back.
Speaker 2: That's a hockey thing. Hockey hair, hockey hair. When I played,
it was just you went out there, you played, you
were good, you got your stuff done. Now you got
to have your hair look good to be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're you're not okay. So it's kind of like, yeah,
there's a discipline.
Speaker 4: Lacrosse team did it to your years ago and they
threatened to not have him play in their sectional game.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, over hair?
Speaker 2: The hype the boys did it. Tim did it his
one of those years they had he was it was
a senior. There's blond as could be. I'm like, you'd
look ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but do they did he get in trouble?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No? Why? Why? Now?
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind doing it. I want to do it.
Speaker 1: Can't you buy like the paint that you wash out?
I don't know, instead of dying it, like I thought
there used to be paint you could sprain your hair.
Speaker 2: I have not looked any of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't either, But I'm just saying, are the teachers,
like it sounds like they're kind of tough on you
do the teachers though, Do they understand kind of your
schedule and what you guys are up against for you know,
school and academics and or do you feel like you're
always explaining yourself like hey, I need a little extra
time because it.
Speaker 4: Kind of depends on the teacher sometimes sometimes I understand,
like if you come it's different. Like if you were
to come up to them like a day before it
was due and say, hey, I need more time on
this assignment, I'm sure they wouldn't say no. Like like
if you were to go up to three or four
days before us doing like hey, like I'm so busy
right now, like I just needed a few extra days.
I'm sure some of them would not mind. Yeah, it
kind of just depends on the timeline, like.
Speaker 1: Walk come up. It's a great thing for you guys
to learn to almost to advocate for yourselves. Yeah, you
know what I mean. And I think that's a great thing.
There's so many things with sports and being part of
a team that translate into life that we don't even
really pay attention to. It's the same thing like I
always argued as as an old man that I think
that math that every kid will go, I'm never gonna
fuck you the med man, Well do I got to
waste my time? And I would always think, yeah, but
it's helping you learn to critically think and be logical
and math you're either right or you're wrong. There's no
reel in between here. We don't have a gray area.
Maybe the gray area is showing your work and how
you got to the conclusion, right, But I think that
stuff is like really important, and I think for sports
it's it's just immense that you know that that goes
with that? What what would be like one habit you've
had to learn earlier than most kids at your age
just to keep up.
Speaker 3: Like actually paying attention in the classes and doing doing
all your work done and then in the study. Also
you don't have any stuff to do like after the
game or after practices, yeah do you?
Speaker 1: And every like there's always that socio what do we
call it, like the stratus, the societal stratosphere so to speak,
in the hallways, Uh with with kids. And I don't
know about Aquinas so much, but there's probably, like I
don't know if they still call it like the burnouts
the kids that we know there, you know, And do
they ever look at you guys and and almost envious? No,
you don't think so, I don't think so. I don't know,
because I always feel like they would, you know. I
want to be you know, be a little bit better
or as respected. Oh here comes so and so the
golden child, you know what I mean. And yet it's
you're busting around. Is it harder tyler to play against
someone that you hate or someone that you.
Speaker 4: Respect, probably someone you hate, because.
Speaker 1: Harder really, I'll say someone will change hates you don't like,
but someone you don't like, well.
Speaker 4: I mean it depends on how they feel about you.
Like if they don't like you, like d ivison to
come after you, and like with hockey you can hit
and stuff like that, and like you know, they're trying
to get under your skin. So they're slash and you
giving you like cross checking you in the back in
the corner and stuff like that. So it's like, uh,
the word is like gritty. It's like a gritty, gritty
game to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a gritty game.
Speaker 2: Play how this one plays. He's like, he's that gritty
shit talker Jack is.
Speaker 1: And you get down and dirty with these guys, And
I mean, have you taken out a guy you've played
with like that, like you know, all of a sudden.
We can use Tyler as an example, would you like
check Tyler into the boards? So yeah, yeah, and yeah,
how does that piss you off? Like you know, it's
your buddy, I don't know you. You're on a team together,
you've traveled together, you do all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I think it's different though for these guys because I
don't think he's gonna put him into the boards. Yeah,
but he's gonna do everything he can to not hurt him,
but he's gonna make him know that he's there. Whereas
you kids that you don't play against or kids that
you are on other teams, you don't give a shit
about that.
Speaker 1: Right, That's That's what I'm saying. It's like when you
do know somebody, I'm wondering if that would be a
little tougher in a way to play that way, or
you know, maybe it's like I don't know one up.
You know, it's just competitive, because you can be competitive
without turning into a jerk. But at the same time,
you can become competitive. And I wonder if there are
guys who just like turn out hating each other even
though they were teammates earlier in the year.
Speaker 4: I just I find it fun playing against these guys
that I play with a travel you do. Yeah, it's
you know, you go out there, it's different. You're not
on the same team as them. So it's kind of
like if you're like, I'm like the I can outdoor
rink or something and you're just like playing around, like
you put sticks in the middle and you get on
separate teams. I just kind of find it's like a
fun little game. But obviously it's just a little game.
It's serious.
Speaker 2: But have you where's where's the line?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: Way?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Have you guys had a situation where you've been talking
shit to somebody that you know in the referees just like,
what the hell do you just saying? Knowing you guys
known you're just busting balls, but the referee may not
know that you two know each other. You had a
situation where referee's like, you got to calm that down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it actually happened the other day in Gennatio. I
don't know who it was, but someone one of us
we scored and someone was saying something to the bench
and the ref came over to our bench was like, hey,
you gotta tell someone, and so like stopped talking to
their bench and he was like, oh, I know them.
He's like, well, I don't. I don't know them, So
I don't know. I don't know if it's if I
don't know if you do know him or not, Like
you just gotta stop it.
Speaker 1: You can't do that, yeah, because he's getting out their
way and it sounds is it?
Speaker 2: Do they do you get on sportsmen?
Speaker 1: Like in hockey, I don't even know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you say something to the ref and they
take it like depends on the ref, Like there could
be a ref that's like heye, like just it's not
wanting to be there, like he'll call the game tight
or whatever. Like you say something and it comes off
wrong to the ref.
Speaker 2: He'll really Sometimes it's gonna cop though if you make them,
if you make them laugh, yeah, they might not be
as app to give you a penalty.
Speaker 1: This is true. Humanners always a great it's a great
ice breaker. Have you ever found yourself during a game
getting so intense that it just like, I don't know,
like you surprise yourself as how intense you got during
a game. That's him really, he gets Do you surprise yourself?
Speaker 2: Oh no, No, I always know that.
Speaker 1: You know it's coming. Yeah, can you feel it like
building up in you?
Speaker 3: You're like, well, it just depends on the game, like
how the game is going or we're playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you're out there, I got to think
too that. You know, we love going to watch people compete.
It's one of our favorite things. It has no consequence
in our life. But we'll spend so much money, right, football, hockey, whatever.
But when those and then some of the hockey games,
high school hockey games get pretty I mean the student
sections can get really rowdy and they can get kind
of nasty some of them. Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: Gonna say this is always the worst.
Speaker 2: I feel like the requid is the worst because they're
they feel like they're entitled to say what they want.
Oh my god, here we go, I said, right next
to it. Just listen to the entire that was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Well, they do say a lot of stuff, I agree,
but the will work for me. They did say that
they did.
Speaker 2: They've been doing that.
Speaker 1: One for years. He will work for me with assholes.
But but do you guys just like too? How do
you tune that out?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it just something where you get like that. I
would think the intensity, if it were me, would almost
make me like tunnel vision down that all I'm doing
is focusing on the ice. I don't almost hear what's
happening out there. Kind of it.
Speaker 4: Depends on the situation. Yeah, if I like obviously when
we score, like we're gonna go to our student section.
The only guy I can't always turn out I can't
like is the guy sitting across from me. I always
hear him yell in the stands shoot better.
Speaker 2: Always, oh we that's a staple from from all the
parents on the travel team. They all they all get that,
know it.
Speaker 4: I can't tune that guy out.
Speaker 2: But he had one the other night. I yelled at
him he hit the goalie somewhere right in the chest,
I go shoot better, And the security guard from Aquinas
turned around, looked up and started laughing.
Speaker 1: Uh, is that the most important voice in your life?
The old man only in that I mean, he's been
there since you laced up your first pair of skates.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, I mean definitely supported,
definitely didn't get the skills from him. But he's always there.
I mean, I don't think he hasn't missed. I don't
think he's missed one of my games for other than
something he has to go do. Like if it's like
he's always driving out to Buffalo, He's always taking me
to these tournaments and yeah, yeah, do.
Speaker 1: You I gotta And do you do the same, Well,
you do because you're on the travels too. But the
amount of investment and both in time and resources is
amazing with hockey. Yeah. And do you ever just feel
I don't even know what the word would be, uh,
just sort of like appreciative of everything that's going on.
Do you ever say it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I say it, but.
Speaker 2: I might have been drinking.
Speaker 4: I don't think he like he doesn't like I don't know,
it might not come off as like so like sweet,
but like I do like appreciate it.
Speaker 2: It's I just, hey, Prick, thank for taking me to Buffalo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're it's just like our family. We're
such a joking family, like anything we'll say, like it'll
be in a joking way, and I think everyone in
the film you knows, like we'll say one joke and
it'll it'll like we'll say like thank you or something,
but like we'll have to say in like a joking way,
and I'm sure you can say like it comes off
like like really like appreciative.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, he understands that language, his language.
Speaker 2: And I mean that's the thing too, with the fact
that these two have been played together for so long,
and their team has been together for the most part
for so long. All the parents are invested in all
of them. Like I'll see something he's doing and I'll
say something to him. His dad will tell him the
same thing. He won't listen to his dad, but he'll
be like, oh, mister Meir said, And then Tyler will
get something from me and he'd be like, you know
what you're talking about. Mister Copley will tell him to
go oh oh yeah, okay, yeah. I mean, this kid
scored the greatest goal I've ever seen in my life
in Detroit this season. Wow, from from his own from
his own goal line, off the glass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, off the class. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He wanted to just clear one out of the zone
and just wung it down the ice, hit the glass
about halfway down the ice, and he might have a
great Elgima grade. He played the angle perfectly and it
just rolled right. The goalie had no clue was cut
and was just skating around board and board. All of
a sudden, the puck's in the net.
Speaker 4: Wow. I don't know if i'd listened to anything, mister.
Speaker 2: Yea, I don't know I would.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't listen to him.
Speaker 4: I kind of yelled, yelled at me to day at
the game, shook his hand. He's like, come on, shake
my hand like a real man. I was like, this
is why I don't cope and say, how do you ray?
Speaker 1: Uh? What? What take me to? Like a tough loss?
All right, a loss that either the you really want
to this is a game you really really want and
it just doesn't go your way. The puck isn't fine
in the back of the net for the team.
Speaker 4: I'll do one for high school and I'm doing for travel.
But I had to say last year semi finals for
high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what brings you back to earth after that? Like
kind of helps ground you a little bit.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. I would just say, I
mean this is a key part, Like we lost like
a bunch of guys last year, lost two of our
like what to best players they went to prep and
then obviously losing the seniors that we've obviously known for
a lot of years, and just how close you are.
Speaker 1: It's just just sad.
Speaker 4: But I honestly would say, you know, like coming going
to school the next day, like you know, knowing that
they're there, like you're still gonna see them every day,
but it's not the same like seeing them on the ice.
Like after the first round movie won. Our big thing
was we'll see a practice on Monday or we'll see
you tomorrow. Like that's all we were saying, like, Hey,
if you guys want to if you guys want to advance,
you want to see each other at practice the next day.
Like you got to dig in, like you have to
put everything on the line and go out there and
just leave it all out there because there could be
no there could be no practice on Monday.
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's interesting that
you look at it that way, because you know, I
was gonna ask you guys, both of you guys like
if hockey ended tomorrow, right, and that was kind of it. Injury,
life whatever, whatever the circumstances are, What do you think
it's actually teaching you for real life life?
Speaker 2: That's a tough question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got to think about that. Yeah, Like
I don't know if it's teaching you grit. I mean
you mentioned grit earlier, perseverance in terms of you know,
pushing through to reach a goal. You know, certainly, Tyler,
you've played at pretty elite.
Speaker 4: Levels, right, Yeah, I mean I guess to teach you
that everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 1: What part of being a hockey player do you think
will matter the most when let's say you're twenty five.
What are we nine years away from twenty five?
Speaker 3: I would say, like the toughness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what I'm thinking, like when I say,
you know, what are to teach you toughness and mindset? Yeah,
that's that's good, because there's got to be days you
don't feel like doing it and you push through and
do it. I even think I got to think for
working out a lot of times. You know, there are
days I remember running a lot and I would not
want to and after I just pushed myself through it.
I felt so good afterwards, and you start to see
these things. It's hard when you become an adult because
there's a lot of things coming at you all at once, right,
you know, right now, for you guys, there's a lot
of support, right, I'm sure in terms of you know,
helping you make sure you get your academics and things.
But that's uh, that's interesting. So what's next then, Tyler
from here?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, like I said, either try to go
to college for hockey or if I can't do hockey,
definitely try to do golf. Okay in college, So one
of the two, I mean, I either a club like
club golf in the spring and do Division three hockey
like whatever. Try to go somewhere where they have both.
Always like still doing something like I'm not like one
semester I'm fitting like I'm working out all the time,
practicing hockey every single day, and then the next semester.
Speaker 2: I'm just sniffing pillows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just rotten in my dorm room, doing nothing like.
I want to make sure like I'm still up and
active and doing stuff.
Speaker 1: Man, explain what your DA's common was. I when I
was in college, I would run into people's rooms and
I would jump up on their bed because there were bunks.
I would launch myself up and I would fart on
their pillow and then run out.
Speaker 2: That is not the correct story. Tell them the correct story.
They're old enough.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, oh the guy with the hot moms. Oh,
there was a guy whose mom was like really really
smoking hot and like you couldn't believe. I'd never seen
a mom that looked like like all the moms in
my world they look like moms, you know, they were
worse than sitcom moms. They didn't even look that good.
And this mom shows up and I'm like, oh my god.
So I found that I got under the kid's skin
when I would go, hey, man's your mom around, and
he would get all, come on, man, it's my mom.
So then his mom was up once and I might
have had a couple of drinks and I ran across
the hall because I said, I do His mom had left,
and I ran across the hall and I picked up
the couch cushion. They went, oh my god, your mom
was here.
Speaker 2: They're like, they're not even what does bully it would
not like that.
Speaker 1: They're like, that's would not fly anymore. What it like. No, No,
none of the guys should ask your brother.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they've done some shit.
Speaker 1: On second, none of the guys would find that funny.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's so funny. Geez, I'm right that set.
I'm dated, buddy, I'm really dated here.
Speaker 2: What battle did the Soviet Union win in the nineteen
eighty Olympics?
Speaker 1: I said bronze?
Speaker 3: Said silver?
Speaker 4: Silver?
Speaker 2: It is silver?
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, I did? I did think silver? And then
I'm like, it feels like a trick.
Speaker 2: Who are the gyms?
Speaker 1: I put down McNamara and uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The gyms are a forward line on the show suresy.
Oh god, I figured these two would get that one. Yeah,
they both watched it.
Speaker 1: I've never watched it.
Speaker 4: You never watched Jersey.
Speaker 2: Here's something's wrong with you. What year did the Toronto
May Be Leafs last win the Stanley Cup?
Speaker 1: What'd you say, Tyler?
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety seven?
Speaker 1: That's what I said to in nineteen ninety, nineteen sixty seven.
All right, we're really six to seven? Yeah, we're making
it bad here. Who scored the.
Speaker 2: Overtime goal in Game six to clinch to Stanley Cup
over the Buffalo Sabers and then famously saying, Gloria a
few years ago.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I wrote down, I want to write
your dick off. Oh, Russian gay, Yeah, Russian guy. I
figured I had nothing.
Speaker 2: Brett hall Well the greatest American born, well Canadian American
born players of all time. Okay, name all four teams
that Wayne Gretzky played for in his career.
Speaker 4: Blues, Rangers, Oilers, Kings.
Speaker 1: Uh, I had the Oilers and the Kings. I couldn't
remember the Rangers. And then was he an owner of
the Coyotes. No, he was the coach of the coach. Okay,
so Kings, Oilers, Canadians and Rangers.
Speaker 2: Tyler has it correct. It's the Kings, Oilers, Blues and Rangers,
not necessarily in that order. How many combined Stanley Cups
have been won by teams from New York State?
Speaker 1: Five? Three?
Speaker 2: It's eight, four for the Rangers, four for the Islanders,
and zero for the s.
Speaker 1: And it was zero for the Savers. I knew the Islanders.
I had no idea.
Speaker 2: Who captain the Oilers to their fifth Stanley Cup? Mark,
said Wayne Gretzky.
Speaker 4: That was the question.
Speaker 2: You obviously didn't listen to question. Wayne Gretzky captained the
Oilers for their first four Stanley Cups. Who was the
captain of five?
Speaker 1: I have no clue that I don't know. I wrote
question marks this.
Speaker 2: He is correct. It is Mark Messier. Wow.
Speaker 1: All right, Tyler coming back.
Speaker 2: And how many players made it to the NHL from
being born in the Greater Rochester area?
Speaker 1: Jack, what did you say?
Speaker 2: I said two?
Speaker 1: What did you say?
Speaker 4: I said three? Because I didn't I didn't know if
you were going to count Syracuse for I was talking.
Speaker 2: But I think the Greater Rochester area would include Syracuse.
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's two.
Speaker 1: Four, I said four, it's eleven.
Speaker 2: Whoa Marty Reasoner Okay, Cole Bardreau okay, Brian Gianta Yeah,
Steve Gianta, Ryan Callahan, Shane Prince, Yeah, Rory Fitzpatrick, Jason Bontignior,
Derek Whitmore, David Ferrence, and Edward Lee.
Speaker 1: I don't know Edward Lee.
Speaker 2: I don't either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. Wow, all right, I didn't know that
we were that rich a hockey. That's a lot. It
feels like a lot. Is that a lot?
Speaker 2: It's going to I mean playing at the highest level
you can play. Yeah, I mean that's for our size
of the talent. I mean we're not a small town,
but we're not a huge We're not like a New
York city.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Where do most of the best players come from? Minnesota?
Speaker 2: Canada?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Lately it's been overseas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Is there a chance to play overseas for you?
Oh god, I don't know that see the world.
Speaker 2: It's a great way to do see the world and
not be in the army.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not like, you know, need some Swede one
of these I don't.
Speaker 2: Remember which one that was on this list. It's been
playing in Russia for probably five or six, the last
five or six years, and looks like he's having pretty
decent success over there, really playing in Russia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean, hey, if you if you're
all right.
Speaker 2: Your coach played in Europe for a while.
Speaker 1: Did he? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And are they making as a decent living I don't know,
probably enough to survive, yeah, and the love of the game, right,
and then you know, there's certainly a lot of experience.
And I don't don't think you're making millions, but you're
probably making thousands.
Speaker 1: Probably Gionta man God, I mean he made some money
when he was with h Yeah, the Montreal first American boy?
Was he the first American or the second American?
Speaker 2: I think he was the first American born captain of them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so too, but somewhere someone was correcting me.
I and I certainly have no hockey knowledge at all.
But it's interesting to talk to him. We'd love to
hear him because he it was so about diet. Yeah,
like and he said, every time I see my kids
grab a sleeve of oreos, I think you have no
idea what you're doing too.
Speaker 2: So we talked about that with him. How how it's changed.
And you know, used to be you'd have the Russians
with their vodka and the yeah child burn and darts
in them between periods drinking. And now it's you come
up the ice, you get a roteins movie, and yeah,
it's a whole different, whole different game, whole different animal.
Speaker 1: Right, It's it is. It's a and and and I
guess in a in a pretty good way that all
that's all that is going on. Fella's anything else you
wanted to add? Any shout outs you want to give
to anybody ladies listening. I mean, I don't want to
embarrass you, but oh there's somebody you know, Valentine's Day
is coming up. I got nothing. What do you mean
you got nothing? Nothing? No coach, no, no, no mentor
no anybody.
Speaker 2: Thanks coach Samino, Thanks mom and dad.
Speaker 1: Thanks mom and dad. All right, sons, not going to
say it. Thanks. I mean, to me, most people your
age are just figuring out what they want to do
right and kind of where they want to go. And
it seems like you're doing that while also being evaluated
timed school on hit all that. You know, it's a
lot that Hockey's to me, always look like the sport.
You had to be the most athletic at You had
to be able to have great balance. You're on two blades.
You got to be able to you know, skate and
then kind of handle yourself when someone's coming at you
and get knocked off the skates and get up and
you've got to stick. So it's not like it's your
feet or your hands that are you know, really doing
anything unless you're the the goalie I suppose, but it's like, God,
it just looks tough. It looks like a tough sport.
Good for good on you guys.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I'll tell you, I do joke a
lot about these boys, and not just these two, but
their whole travel team. I mean, they've been together for
so long. I feel like and I think all the
dads will agree that we feel like fathers of all
of them because we just we love watching the boys play.
I mean, I like watching these two play together. Yeah,
I like watching all the boys come together and be
a team and just out there having fun. And you know,
it's a hockey is a different breed where you had,
it's a second fan family. Yeah, you've got your family,
then you've got all the other families that you're friends
with and you're doing stuff with. And I mean there's
times we're all out together, the moms having their mom nights,
the dads let the moms have their mom nights and
kind of holding all of our dad nights back. So
we're gonna go. Our talk is that we're going to
go for a weekend in four days or something for
all the mom nights that they've had. The dads are
gonna go to Vegas for four days. No, when the
kids graduate, when they graduate, Yep, that was our goals.
We're all going to go to Vegas for freight days
when the kids graduate graduate high school.
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, so you got another year. I do that
sounds like a fun trip. Did your brother have a
good time in Vegas? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think he did. Send me a lot of videos
from the fights.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, he had two extra days too. Yeah.
I didn't know he was out there for the fights.
I know he was going.
Speaker 4: They went out?
Speaker 1: Oh did that?
Speaker 2: Did the Eagles of the sphere?
Speaker 1: Man? This is kids living large? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: You're home, slaving away, still doing the stuff. All right, gentlemen,
it's been, uh, I think a fun conversation to just
get in the minds of young people who are so
disciplined and focused on sports and seeing that and and
not just hockey, well it's a majority of what you do.
But you know, golfer Tyler and baseball for Jack, and uh, what's.
Speaker 2: What's easier hitting the golf ball off of t hitting
the curveball, or hitting hitting the net? And I've seen
both of you shoot, so I know it ain't.
Speaker 4: I know it ain't hitting the net, hitting a golf ball, hitting.
Speaker 1: The net, hitting the net is harder, yeah for me,
at least for you. But I thought he was one
of the leadings. I don't even know. I don't even
get this, that that.
Speaker 2: You can still shoot better. Wait, what's harder or easier?
What's easier and easier to hitting a golf ball?
Speaker 4: I mean if hit the golf ball like.
Speaker 2: Me, Oh, here we go?
Speaker 1: Well is he?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: He's one another one who is like top? Do you
guys can uh around to quit quint? It's already met
this season?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah? So and how did that go? Aron?
Speaker 2: Quate won for the first time in what seven years?
Speaker 1: Wow? Really, Tyler? I just saw you roll your neck.
You're right? Did he give you a lot of ship
about it?
Speaker 2: He was hurt?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't even play.
Speaker 4: He was chirping. And when I lined up on the
power play, I was right next to him and he
was in my ear a little bit.
Speaker 2: So I did score if he asked, Tyler. They gave
him that game because the quinance was up for most
of the game and then blew.
Speaker 1: It the third. All right.
Speaker 2: They were all doing community service, getting getting that, you know,
or winning for rondic Quit.
Speaker 1: It's the first time in how many years. It's been
a while, been a while. Yeah, that feel pretty good. Yeah,
I mean, you know, it's a nice little rivalry. Who's
the who? What team do you? Is there a team
you fear, not necessarily fear, but are like these guys?
Really they're cold, you're fifteen to No. Wow, they haven't
lost the game.
Speaker 4: I don't think they will.
Speaker 2: They'll lose a game. You guys will beat them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we play them next Tuesday. We got it.
Speaker 2: You take care of him and then I will at
least and you're all healthy again.
Speaker 1: You're back. Yeah, I'm back. I could all right for
Jack Springer, Tyler Muir Dad who chirps and again one
of the most important voices in Tyler's life. I think
that's great.
Speaker 2: Shoot better.
Speaker 1: If not, then I'm Bill Moran. Will see you tomorrow.
I won't be in Old Tom didn't know what to do.
I'm turning a TV a letter to you.