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<v Speaker 1>With full camp already in full swing, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to talk about around the Ohio State football program.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're getting a little bit of a bonus episode

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the first of a couple of bonus

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<v Speaker 1>episodes you're going to get in the next day or two.

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<v Speaker 1>First one, want to let you hear a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>from Ohio State head coach Ryan Day. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to talk to him after the first day of practice.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd have been Thursday afternoon last week.

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<v Speaker 3>So most of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff is very big picture, so still very very relevant,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of it is going to be framed around

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that, hey, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just day one.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't in pads yet, so just sort of go

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<v Speaker 1>in understanding that first day in pads was on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>practice three. We have shows talking about that already for

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<v Speaker 1>you if you want to hear those. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with Ryan Day talking about some of the freshmen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they are a bunch of freshmen that seem

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<v Speaker 1>like they may be ready to contribute this year and

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<v Speaker 1>contribution as a true freshman. The whole conversation or in

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<v Speaker 1>that has really changed with the change to the red

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<v Speaker 1>shirt rule. Now you've got five years to play five years.

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<v Speaker 1>You can play five seasons. You can play every game

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<v Speaker 1>you want in all five seasons. That's totally fine. No

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<v Speaker 1>more only playing in four regular season games. That's done.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyone who wants to play can play in as

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<v Speaker 1>many games as they want to this year without impacting

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<v Speaker 1>their future eligibility. So all right, So what does he

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<v Speaker 1>see out of the freshmen? Are they maybe ready to contribute?

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<v Speaker 1>He was also specifically in the question here was asked

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about people like Chris Henry Junior and Brock Boyd Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everybody's playing now. The red shirt idea doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really exist moving forward. So first off, everybody in the

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<v Speaker 2>program should have the idea that they're fighting for Physicians

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for playing time, want to get on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>I think those guys in particular are really fighting hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they can see it We saw enough in

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<v Speaker 2>them in the spring to lead us to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>they can help us the year. The question is how

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<v Speaker 2>early and how much? And that's what preseason is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be about.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the big storylines through fall camp is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the alignment of the offensive line and how

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to line those guys up and who are

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<v Speaker 1>those five guys going to be. It is something that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about a bunch on a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>these different shows, and it was a story quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit this week as well. They opened Day one with

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Sirivald at right guard, ian Moore at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>They then moved Austin Siravall back to left tackle Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Padieta right guard on on Friday, then went back to

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Seervel at right guard and Ian Moore at left

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<v Speaker 1>tackle on Saturday. So what is the plan there? And

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<v Speaker 1>you will notice he also mentions Philip Daniels in this

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<v Speaker 1>answer as well, which is a little bit interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, We're going to try a couple different combinations today.

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<v Speaker 2>We did two spots, so sort of just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Scarlett and Gray, not really ones and twos. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to look at him playing tackle as

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<v Speaker 2>you saw last year, also look at him playing guard,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you know when you look at Josh Badio,

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at Ian Moore, and you look at

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<v Speaker 2>Phil Daniels.

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<v Speaker 3>Finding the best five is what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But part of that five is knowing that Austin can

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<v Speaker 2>play both guard and tackle, so he spent a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time to tackle here most recently, so I thought

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to get them some guard reps.

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<v Speaker 3>See how we felt in there, see how we looked.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a little while, so we'll see how it goes,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be really good competition. Good news

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<v Speaker 2>is we have some different options, but we got to

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<v Speaker 2>find the best five.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the storylines this spring was the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to get more from their receivers after catch,

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<v Speaker 1>so yack yards after catch. You remember may remember John

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<v Speaker 1>Madden talking about that back in the day. But right

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<v Speaker 1>now they're trying to figure out, Okay, which receivers are

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<v Speaker 1>going to get them more yardage after the catch. But

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<v Speaker 1>that feels like that's kind of hard if you're not tackling,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're really not tackling yet, so how do you

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<v Speaker 1>figure out at who excels at evading tackles. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>not tackling, how.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you identify it in practice?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's when you're when you're not tackling, it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>when you're not fudding. Like today it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>homet's practice, it's even harder. It's a huge emphasis. We

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<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of time on it. Quotes, he spent

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time on it, has some very strong

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on it. So we got to work it every

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<v Speaker 2>day in practice the drills and then see a carry

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<v Speaker 2>over to the teamwork. But once we get the pads on,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have a better idea and certainly when we start

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<v Speaker 2>tacklet we'll have a you know, hopefully we'll see those

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<v Speaker 2>drills translate to production.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the names you've heard a lot from us

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<v Speaker 1>over the last month or two after we've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>to some folks in the program is Isaiah West. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a running back who was banged up a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>in his true freshman season, was quite a bit behind

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<v Speaker 1>Bo Jackson in terms of both kerries and yardage in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, and now this year, boy, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he is really maybe competing for that starting job.

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<v Speaker 1>So what has he done to get himself into that spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first off, you can see his body, we can

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<v Speaker 2>see the work he's put in. Had a tremendous offseason

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the best in the whole building consistency,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he was in there last year he showed

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<v Speaker 2>some real good things. So we want him to take

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<v Speaker 2>the next step, just as we do Bo. But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean just Isaiah one year in the program. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when when you have the injury like he had,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it takes a year or two to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Back into it.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're seeing him look the best physically he's looked,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, same thing just day one.

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<v Speaker 1>Another name you've heard us talking about the bunch this

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<v Speaker 1>week is Devin McEwan, the transfer from UT San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a big adjustment to make going from the

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<v Speaker 1>road Runners to the Buckeyes this spring. So what has

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<v Speaker 1>he done to get himself in a position to play

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<v Speaker 1>a big role this season?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it is and the same thing I tell a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the guys. If you want to have credibility here,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to win, One, you play special teams. Two,

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<v Speaker 2>you attach yourself to Nick in the way where He's

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<v Speaker 2>had a great offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see his body's changed.

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<v Speaker 2>He's earned a lot of respect but recognized for that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with what he did this summer.

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<v Speaker 3>So now he's going to go put it on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was consistent in the spring, but now

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to, you know, take take a huge step

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<v Speaker 2>here because that position, as we know, is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be critical.

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<v Speaker 3>And we saw what happened last year.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw obviously the attention that that Jeremiah is going

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<v Speaker 2>to get, Brandon's going to get, so that that that

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<v Speaker 2>position is really going to be an important part of

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<v Speaker 2>our offense. And you know, Devin certainly has put himself

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<v Speaker 2>in a position to be that guy, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to compete for it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in the job a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the offensive line, things were shuffled around a good

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<v Speaker 1>bit in the secondary this week as well. Day one,

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<v Speaker 1>dominic Kelly was with the ones on the outside across

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<v Speaker 1>from Devin Sanchez, with Jermaine Matthews at nickel or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>with the twos at times. But is that a sign

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<v Speaker 1>that dominic Kelly is really a legitimate contender to start

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<v Speaker 1>this year? Is that a sign that they're just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of moving stuff around figure out what they have, what

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<v Speaker 1>what to what to make of the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, yeah, we're just we're just rolling guys right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but we want it is a competition and we want

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<v Speaker 2>guys to compete, and a lot of guys have earned

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<v Speaker 2>the right to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So now's the time. We're going to re roll these

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<v Speaker 3>guys and then.

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<v Speaker 2>These reps accumulate, we evaluate the reps and see where

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<v Speaker 2>it goes. And we've seen, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Certain competitions be over in a week.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen competitions last all the way up until game week.

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<v Speaker 2>But we need to find, you know, what that combination

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be there. And do we feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we have two corners that we can just play all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we feel like there's three that we can rotate?

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<v Speaker 3>How does that play into the nickel position?

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<v Speaker 2>Those are all parts of what we need to solve

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<v Speaker 2>here in the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy to forget about special teams. We do shows

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<v Speaker 1>on offense, shows on defense, and then it's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they also have special teams, and boy, when you need

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<v Speaker 1>special teams, you really really need special teams. And it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it's more of an emphasis this year, they

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<v Speaker 1>brought in Robbie Disher, the special teams coordinator from Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>He is now the special teams coordinator at Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>Brought in Connor Hawkins, the kicker transfer from Baylor. Brought

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<v Speaker 1>in Dalton Riggs, a long snapper transfer out of UCF

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<v Speaker 1>Rush Joe Maguire is back to do the punting. So

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<v Speaker 1>how much are they going to be stressing special teams

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<v Speaker 1>this month and how are they going to find ways

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<v Speaker 1>to test Connor Hawkins to understand what they really have

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<v Speaker 1>to work with.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first off, the kicking game in general, special teams

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<v Speaker 2>are a huge part of what we do in just

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<v Speaker 2>our foundation of how we teach fundamental football. So everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>involved with those meetings. The kicking game in particular with

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<v Speaker 2>the battery. You know, Dalton is new, but but he's

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<v Speaker 2>really getting a good a good feel with with Joey.

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<v Speaker 3>So in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Punting game, you know there you know snap to a

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<v Speaker 2>kick operation. I think Joey's taking a next step, but

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to build depth there as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's been good.

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<v Speaker 2>And then getting a feel for Dalton as a long

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<v Speaker 2>snap for what he can do. But then in the

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<v Speaker 2>field goal kicking games to your point, you know, every

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<v Speaker 2>single snap matters. I mean, we're chasing small margins. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll quickly get in the situations here and and that's everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>so that everybody can feel how important that is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing to go out and kick seven field goals

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<v Speaker 2>and then at the end, say, you know, at this

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<v Speaker 2>one counts type of thing, and you know, we all

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<v Speaker 2>got to run ten laps, do twenty five updowns. If

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<v Speaker 2>he misses it, but he's already kicked seven in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not realistic. So what we'll try to do is

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<v Speaker 2>we'll try to create situations like you put a sure

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<v Speaker 2>certain time on the clock, balls around midfield, Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to play this out. Offense needs a field goal,

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<v Speaker 3>It's like being at the driving range.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get to go to the driving range, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know when you are the back nine. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we're trying to do, and see how we responds

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<v Speaker 2>to the different environments. We'll look to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how to win the weather. Hopefully we get different variations

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<v Speaker 2>of that during the preseason, they get a field for

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<v Speaker 1>We've done a bunch of shows about the storylines we're

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<v Speaker 1>month and the players the most approved this month. Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we all want to see how how

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line shakes out here, that's for sure. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we do have some depth there, but who's actually

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<v Speaker 2>guys who can count on us that third, fourth, fifth,

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<v Speaker 3>We have some talent, we have a little bit of experience, but.

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<v Speaker 2>when we've made major runs here, running backs have run

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<v Speaker 2>really well here. You look what Zeke did, obviously, you

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<v Speaker 2>Like in those games, I mean, they take over and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we're gonna be out of that room. So offensively,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say those are the things we're looking at. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, backup quarterback position critical. Certainly we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about Julian, but we need to have depth

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<v Speaker 3>And then on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how the back end shakes out in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>Things are very different in terms of fall camp from

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<v Speaker 1>and not knowing what's going on. So what is a

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<v Speaker 1>very very different thing. The coaches can work with the

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<v Speaker 1>players a lot more than they used to under some

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely is different than it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, you know back when I played, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you showed up with your box fan and you met

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<v Speaker 2>your roommate for the first time, and you know camp

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<v Speaker 2>started the next day. You know, it's like either you

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<v Speaker 2>show up, well, you had a conditioning test before he's

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<v Speaker 2>that conditioning test and either made commissioning test and you

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<v Speaker 2>came back every mornings you made commissioning test. There's just

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like that anymore. There's just such a lead up

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<v Speaker 2>with the workouts and everything that we do. But anytime

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<v Speaker 2>you put the helmets on, anytime you start going against

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<v Speaker 2>each other, it's completely different. And you know, we get

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<v Speaker 2>a chance yesterday to get together talk about our goals,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about where we.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of gives us a focus on football. I

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<v Speaker 2>think physically we look as good as we have. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we had the talent and now we got to

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<v Speaker 1>So you go a little bit from Ryan Day earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the week. We'll have a show with Julian saying

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<v Speaker 3>And talk about that.

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