WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:06.240 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Boston's news video. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:07.960 All right, Nicole, thank you very much. 3 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:11.359 Yes, there seems to be a cease fire on the 4 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:16.320 doorstep in the Middle East. Anytime people stop killing each other. 5 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:24.879 I'm all for it. Long overdue and it's about time. 6 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:27.719 That's all I can tell you. Then I look over 7 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:30.440 here on the left. I'm looking at television monitors here 8 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:34.560 in the Beezy studio, and I see that Kamali's team 9 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.560 continues to make excuses about their loss, why they didn't 10 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:39.439 go on Rogan and blah blah blah. 11 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:40.600 It's over. Let it go. 12 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:47.759 That's it. That's it. That is about as serious. No, 13 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:52.359 that is as serious as I'm gonna get tonight because 14 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:57.759 I'm ready for turkey stuffing, movies and sweatpants. The greatest 15 00:00:57.799 --> 00:00:59.039 adventure you know, the man or. 16 00:00:59.000 --> 00:00:59.840 A woman is. 17 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:04.159 It's the sweat band. It is the elastic band. It 18 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:08.280 is the rope that you can let out in your sweatpants. 19 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:12.400 I remember my uncle Jim, after Thanksgimmick dinner, sitting in 20 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:16.400 front of the television set to watch football, literally unbuckling 21 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:20.120 his belt and just letting the thing hang off and 22 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:25.079 then unbuckling the top button, unbuckling the top button of 23 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.640 your pants. You would be arrested today if you did that, 24 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:31.200 but thanks to the sweatpant on Thursday, you don't have 25 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:36.319 to do it. This is where my head's at. No 26 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:42.400 heavy lifting, no heavy thinking. It's the holidays, people, and 27 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:45.599 let's get do it. So coming up tonight on Night Side, 28 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:49.040 Gary Tagway for Dan Ray, we're gonna get into the 29 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.840 holiday movies. My buddy Drewiano is gonna join us. Screenwriting 30 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:58.319 professor at BC for over a decade, wrote the screenplay 31 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:01.000 No Safe Haven. Has written a number of novels. Also 32 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.439 wrote a book called The Third Act. Has been a 33 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:08.280 consultant for Will Smith in Will Smith's Company. This guy 34 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:11.199 knows movies like nobody's business, and he's been working on 35 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:13.639 a list all day for the best holiday movies. Now, 36 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.360 there are some obvious ones. The one thing that about 37 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:21.800 the holiday movie the new ones really haven't captured it. 38 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.319 There's been nothing new lately. There is one with Kurt Russalove, 39 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:29.840 we'll get into that, which I liked the Christmas Chronicles. 40 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.360 One was good, two was a little much. But I 41 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.120 think he wanted to get Goldie in it. I understand, 42 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.800 so they made a Christmas Chronicles two. I like Christmas 43 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:44.400 Chronicles one, but that's really the only recent holiday movie 44 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.280 that I think is any good. 45 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:48.919 I could be wrong. 46 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:51.479 I could be wrong on that, but that's anyways. We're 47 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.560 going to cover that and also some great stories with 48 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.599 Drew on these holiday movies. And where would we be 49 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:00.000 without John Hughes. God bless him me he rest in peace. 50 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:04.840 I mean John Hughes as a writer and a director 51 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:12.240 made the two of the best holiday movies Plays Trains 52 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.680 at Automobiles and Home Alone. Those are not my top 53 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:19.360 those might be in my top five. But I'm going 54 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:22.439 to tell you my number one holiday movie coming up, 55 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:27.240 which I think initially the critics just panned. And also 56 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:30.479 there's a very interesting story on how two actors didn't 57 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:33.840 get along in it, and that's coming up in just 58 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:38.120 a few moments. What's going on in the world of entertainment. 59 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:40.879 One of the things we like to do around the 60 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:43.360 holidays is sit on our ass and watch TV and 61 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:47.479 stream and movies and look for things. There just is 62 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:51.879 not the inventory that we're accustomed to. Sure, you can 63 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:53.759 go back and you can watch the older movies, or 64 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.800 maybe there's something you haven't seen. I haven't seen shinless 65 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:58.680 lists and I just can't bring myself to do it, 66 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.039 and I need to do it, should do it. Every 67 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:02.960 time I go to do it, I go it's too heavy. 68 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:04.520 I can't handle it. I'm whistened out. 69 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.240 But I should do it out of respect for the story, 70 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:15.439 the cause, live loss, Lives lost, sacrificed, the filmmaker, the actors. 71 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:17.759 I just need to watch that movie, but I just 72 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:20.160 I just can't. I can't bring myself to do it. 73 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.000 But what's going on with the world of entertainment? There 74 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:25.560 was a big meaning between Netflix and all the powers 75 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.680 that be out in Hollywood. It did not go well. 76 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.519 I mean, listen, TVs. We all know, I mean TV 77 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.560 is dead. Thank God for Law and Order. I mean 78 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:39.319 Law and Order and the fbis and of course reality 79 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.360 reality television. You know where you have the voice, so 80 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:47.240 you have American Idol, or you know, you have these 81 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:53.319 survival shows or f Boy Island that I'm finding. 82 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:55.360 Out that my teenage daughter is watching. I'm like, what, 83 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:56.240 excuse me? 84 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:02.079 When you get to the third kid, I'm too damn 85 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:03.839 tired to worry about what they're watching. 86 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:05.120 They all know so much. 87 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:07.800 Oh my god, what kids know at fourteen and fifteen. 88 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:10.240 I didn't know when I was twenty, and I blame 89 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:14.759 the phones. Can't blame me, the parent, blame the phones. 90 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:18.680 But I mean, when it comes to like what we 91 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.439 grew up with TV, it's like stuff like that or 92 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:28.759 The X Factor, right, or The Survivor. But when it 93 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.800 comes to drama, great fiction, great shows, great movies, it's 94 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.480 all streaming. Where's it going? When are we going to 95 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.920 see the next great show? There's not a lot out there, right, 96 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:42.519 I mean, right now, picketts are pretty slim. I've got 97 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:47.480 a few. But what's going on in the industry and 98 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:49.240 how are we going to be entertained in the future. 99 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:51.439 One of the things I'm going to ask Emily Kennedy about, 100 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.600 who is an agent for the WSM Agency and has 101 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:57.800 worked in a number of areas of entertainment throughout her 102 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:02.319 career before going into the agency business, is is the 103 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:06.800 situation comedy's gonna be replaced by Instagram? My wife goes 104 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:10.680 on Instagram and just scrolls it and laughs and just 105 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:12.800 laughs one after another after another. 106 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:17.439 I mean, is there no reason to have a new Cheers? Right? 107 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:20.480 I mean Abbot elementary God, but thank God for that. 108 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:22.639 But at one point in time, we have five or 109 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.480 six or seven or eight Abbot Elementaries. 110 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:25.839 You could watch now. 111 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:33.879 It's Abbot Elementary and Instagram or f Boy Island. Oh God, 112 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:37.920 Porzingis is back Celtics. If you have Porzingis, They're not 113 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:41.720 gonna lose to anybody, not at all. They are not 114 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:43.879 gonna lose to anybody. And Peyton Prishart could he be 115 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:45.680 the sixth Man of the Year. Gotta get into some 116 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:50.240 Celtics here with Jackson. Jackson Tulliver's gonna join us. Also 117 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:54.040 one of my prime students at Emerson, but he does 118 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:56.240 great work for CELNS Media, so we're gonna talk Celtics 119 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:59.079 soup with him. This is interesting coming up at ten thirty. 120 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:00.639 Make sure you join us for the Dark Side of 121 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:06.279 AI Scarbarredell. Anytime AI screws up, I'm all for it. 122 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:07.639 Now. 123 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:11.000 I do realize that I don't realize how dependent I 124 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:14.279 am on AI. When I look at my phone, you know, 125 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.560 or when you just say you're you know, you send 126 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:19.759 a text and you get autocorrect. I mean that's AI. 127 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:23.000 We are so dependent on AI. I don't even know 128 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:29.240 when AI helps me. I really don't. But anytime there's 129 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:32.160 a black mark on AI because AI scares the hell 130 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:33.480 out of me, even though I use it all the 131 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:35.680 time and it makes my life easier. I'm such a hypocrite. 132 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:39.399 I'm all for it, and he's got a story coming up. 133 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:41.560 But we're going to talk about this because. 134 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:46.800 I do worry. Will computers run the world? Will they? 135 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:48.439 You know? 136 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:53.079 Come on, I root against AI, even though I am 137 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.279 totally dependent on it. That's all coming up at ten 138 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.360 thirty eleven o'clock. I need your help. What are we 139 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:02.240 thankful for? I started with sweatpants, but I want unique things. 140 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:04.040 We are or we're. 141 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.120 Grateful for love, We're grateful for help. I'm grateful for 142 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.279 Rob Brooks, you know. I'm grateful for Marita, who produced 143 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.399 the show tonight. I'm grateful for my family. I'm grateful 144 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:17.000 for my health. Believe me, I bet hey. I was 145 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.800 at Dana Farber. I am grateful for Dana Farber. By 146 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:22.079 the way, if you have a couple of extra shekels 147 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.120 you're looking to maybe get a little tax break, Dana Farber, 148 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.480 send the money over there. They will either save your 149 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:31.319 life or they will save somebody. You know, trust me 150 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:38.000 because I've experienced both. Or mass general I'm not getting it. 151 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:42.080 Whatever you know, when it comes to cancer, man, if 152 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:44.240 you can, if you can help out, do it this Christmas. 153 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:47.320 Send a little money does it can be a dollar, 154 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:50.679 it can be five dollars, It doesn't have to be 155 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:51.080 a lot. 156 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:53.399 Can be fair, I mean, fifty cents. 157 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.639 Take your change drawer. Does anybody have those anymore? I 158 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:59.399 mean with Venmo people probably don't even have change drawers. 159 00:08:59.679 --> 00:08:59.879 Take it. 160 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.480 If you do, you have a change drawer buried in 161 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:07.240 the socks like me, send it over to dand Farber. 162 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:08.399 So. 163 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.360 Yeah, that is the show tonight, what we're thankful for, 164 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:11.960 but I want to be We're gonna have some fun 165 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.639 at eleven o'clock. It's not the typical stereotypical things we're 166 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.519 thankful for. Let's get into the movies. Let's get into 167 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:21.559 the holiday movies. Let's get into the stories behind the 168 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:24.159 stories again. I have a great story for you coming 169 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:26.919 up on ELF. What was going on with that set? 170 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:29.759 We'll get into planes, trains, and automobiles, and a big 171 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:33.039 portion of that was cut out and it turned out 172 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:33.559 for the better. 173 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:37.000 The only problem I have. 174 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:40.320 With Home Alone is they made Home Alone two. They 175 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:44.679 should have just left it alone. Sorry, for the Redundancy. 176 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:52.000 Droiano, screenwriter, author, professor and friend of Gary, joins us 177 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:55.919 as we talked holiday movies. Next he on wbz's Nightside. 178 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:59.279 Now back to Dan d Mine from the Window World 179 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:13.360 Videos on w b Z the News Radio. 180 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:24.679 Oh huh, why did you kiss my hair? Where you're 181 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:31.320 holding my hand? There's your other hand between two pillows. 182 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:34.000 Those aren't pillows. 183 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:52.320 Oh hey, huh. 184 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:56.360 See that Bear's game last week? Helloa game, Hello game. 185 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.639 Bear's got a great team to ship. They're gonna go 186 00:10:58.639 --> 00:10:59.759 all the way. 187 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:05.799 Oh yeah, one of the best movie scenons ever. Welcome 188 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:08.759 back NICs like Gary Tank, We for Dan Ray, Steve Martin, 189 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:12.679 John Candy, of course, planes, trains and automobiles. We're talking 190 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:15.279 about holiday movies and joining me now is my friend 191 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:15.919 Drew Giano. 192 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:16.879 Uh. 193 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:20.720 Screenwriting professor also has written a book called The Third Act. 194 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:22.679 By the way, if you want to write, you have 195 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:25.879 to get the Third Act. Will Smith absolutely use this book. 196 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:26.559 You have to. 197 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:27.799 If you want to write, you have to get The 198 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:31.000 Third Act by Drewiano also wrote The Smart One Michael 199 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:34.120 Vogel in Idea Story to Screen. 200 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.519 What's going on? Horace? How you doing? Happy Thanksgiving? 201 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:39.639 Happy Thanksgiving gear. 202 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:42.799 Hey, doesn't I hear that clip? And I just get 203 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:43.759 all fuzzy inside. 204 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:45.919 I just love it. 205 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.639 It's it's just still funny. The whole movie is just 206 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:52.279 still funny. It's a classic. It'll go forever, all right. 207 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:54.759 Drew's got a list of the great holiday movies. If 208 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:56.399 you guys want to chime in, give us a call 209 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:58.639 to if you have any suggestions. But we're going to 210 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:00.879 try to get into some of the stories behind the stories. 211 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:06.159 And I know you're a big John Hughes fan, but arguement, 212 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.440 I mean, listen, it's not my number one. I'm going 213 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:10.279 to tell you what my number one holiday movie is 214 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:14.200 coming up in a bit. But I think from most everybody, Planes, trains, 215 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:16.080 and Automobiles is number one. 216 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:20.039 Well, certainly the number one Thanksgiving movie. I mean, my 217 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.240 wife and I will watch it tomorrow night, we always do, 218 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:27.080 like before Thanksgiving. And you know, incidentally, it was released 219 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:31.840 thirty seven years ago yesterday. Wow, And it's such a 220 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.759 great story. And Hughes had the idea when he was 221 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:37.679 going on vacation and he's going down the list of 222 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:39.480 things so I wouldn't forget, And they thought, well, if 223 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.919 I forgot one of my kids literally how they came 224 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:43.320 up with the idea, Oh no, I'm thinking to the 225 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:43.639 other one. 226 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:45.399 Yeah, it's easy to do. 227 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:49.840 Ows trains, planes trains. He got from his own experience 228 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:53.440 as a copywriter, right, And he was sitting around and 229 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:57.200 they were all talking about, you know, getting stranded in places, 230 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:01.399 and you know that was by strains, which he then, 231 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:04.840 you know, paired John Candy with Steve Martin, which is 232 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:07.039 the greatest pairing in comedy history. 233 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.559 I think, do you think hughs Because he was in 234 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.440 the advertising business and a copywriter, he was able to 235 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:17.840 bring that commercial end or that commercial angle to. 236 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:20.200 The movies while still delivering a lot of heart. 237 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.399 Because if you think, like you always told me when 238 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:25.240 we were talking about Drew, about a movie, it's got 239 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:27.360 to have heart, you know, I mean there's got to 240 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:29.519 be some heart in there. Okay, maybe Halloween one through 241 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:32.080 five doesn't have heart, but you know, when you're a 242 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.960 copyrighted yeah, when you're comedy, to have heart, right, And 243 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:36.279 he was. 244 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:38.360 He was awesome at that. Hughes was the master. 245 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:44.679 Yeah, totally. And the thing about writing commercials is economy. 246 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.240 You have to tell a story really quickly. Think of 247 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.320 all the best commercials you've ever watched. I mean, they're 248 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:53.759 a story in such thirty seconds or a minute, and 249 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:57.399 I think that helped him. And you know, you can 250 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:01.039 see it on the screen, especially plain strains, because it 251 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.399 was three hours and forty five minutes once they were 252 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:05.840 done filming, and it ended up being an hour in 253 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.679 thirty three minutes. He cut out all the stuff that 254 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:09.679 didn't need to be there. 255 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.799 It was that Wow, it sounds like a Scorsese film. 256 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:16.799 Yeah. No, he just kept filming and they led him 257 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.600 and you know, you have Steve Martin and John Candy. 258 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:23.960 They improvised a lot, so you know, they just kept 259 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.279 it and then just when it came time to edit, 260 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:27.120 man did they addit. 261 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:27.600 Man. 262 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.000 It was so interesting from Martin because I remember when 263 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:31.759 he came out with the wild and crazy guy in 264 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:34.639 the balloons and all that, and that for comedy that 265 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:37.039 really wasn't my thing. A lot of friends in college 266 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:39.480 liked him on SNL, Wild and Crazy Guys and all 267 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:43.240 that that. Really, yeah, I thought he was okay, you know, 268 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.759 he wasn't my cup of tea. But boy, in movies 269 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:49.759 like this, that guy was nails. And here was a 270 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:52.919 guy known from comedy that was really he had the 271 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:54.480 dramatic role in this movie. 272 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:57.519 Oh yeah, oh yeah, he didn't have the lines. And 273 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.639 you know, you think about Martin, he the first arena comic. 274 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.039 You know, you got Nate Bergatzi and right, Nashi Messk 275 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.279 calcol and all those guys you know playing in arenas 276 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:10.159 back then that didn't happen, and he was the first. 277 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.919 And you're right here he is playing a straight guy 278 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:16.840 in his first straight you know role, even though it's comedy. 279 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:21.480 And you know he talks about that. Yeah, there's Netflix 280 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:24.120 that has the documentary. It's a terrific documentary. 281 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:24.480 It is. 282 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.039 It's great. Yeah, it's great. 283 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:29.759 Drewiana was our guest talking about holiday movies and right down, planes, 284 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:34.600 trains and automobiles one of the best. And you're right, 285 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.679 it's not if if you don't watch it on demand, 286 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:40.519 it's on TBS or TNT or it's. 287 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:41.840 Somewhere over there. 288 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:42.720 You can find it. 289 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:45.679 Yeah, it's easily easily, you can find it. 290 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:48.480 So the thing that I found really interesting, and it 291 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:51.360 was in the Steve Mark and Steve Martin doc is 292 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:56.200 that candy speech at the end when when he reveals 293 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.639 that he doesn't have a home because he lost his 294 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:02.440 wife and during the holiday days he just travels and 295 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:04.600 and well people know the story pretty much and grabs 296 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:10.240 on to people. Originally that speech was what three four 297 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:12.000 minutes he. 298 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:13.480 It was a page and a half in the script, 299 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:17.080 and you know, Steve Martin and the documentary they said 300 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:20.480 he was tears with candy delivering it, because that's the 301 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.840 beauty of candy. He could be funny as hell, but man, 302 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:27.360 he could act. And you know, I think John Hughes 303 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.879 made the right choice because he just has to say 304 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:32.960 those couple of lines. You know, you know, what are 305 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:33.399 you doing here? 306 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:33.639 Dell? 307 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.679 You know I don't have a home, Neil. You know 308 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:41.320 my wife died eight years ago, and boom, and you 309 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.799 know from all the action that's taken place that what 310 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:49.559 that speech says, you've already taken in right, You've interpret 311 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:53.080 that in their actions, and so I do think it 312 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.480 was the right move. They also had, you know, talking 313 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.240 about this three hours and forty five minutes. They filmed 314 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:02.799 this scene with him having dinner with the family after 315 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:05.839 he comes up with his you know, trunk, and they're 316 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.480 going in the house and don't need that, right, So 317 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:10.480 that's the kind of thing where they film and don't 318 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:10.839 need it. 319 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:14.799 I think walking up the street with both of them 320 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:16.640 carrying the trunk is iconic. 321 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:20.319 It's that is the word. It's iconic. You show that 322 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.200 to anybody any time of the year and the feeling 323 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:26.519 just comes up. It's so funny because sometimes, you know, July, 324 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:29.079 he'll be switching the channels all of a sudden, Blames 325 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.680 trains will be on and I can't help but watch 326 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.720 it if it's on. But you're right, you see that 327 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:37.279 scene and you just get choked up. It's great. 328 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.799 Do you think this is what led opportunities for Candy, 329 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.920 for example, to be in JFK because he can act. 330 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:46.079 We saw that he could act. 331 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:50.279 That's exactly right. I mean this. He deserved an Oscar 332 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:51.799 nomination as far as I've been saying, I think he 333 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.759 had a Golden Globe nomination. I don't know if you 334 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.279 had any o Thiss, but he deserved it because you know, 335 00:17:57.839 --> 00:17:59.680 you're an actor. So I talk about it all the time, 336 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:02.839 actors who act with their face, you know, it's not 337 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.319 so much what they say, but they can literally deliver 338 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:07.440 the emotion on their face. And he does that in 339 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.880 this movie like constantly, particularly in that train scene at 340 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.599 the end. It's amazing, and I think that's why he 341 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:18.599 got cast in more serious roles, because he could act. 342 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:19.799 I think it's so hard, Drew. 343 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:22.400 Drew and I have written screenplays together, and we love 344 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:24.000 to write, and we love to talk about movies, and 345 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:27.960 so fartha, it's so hard, especially now where people are 346 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:33.480 accustomed to film and human behavior and the story formula. 347 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:36.799 If you will that, some people will say, well. 348 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:38.880 It's too formulaic, and I'm like, well, no, there is 349 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:39.799 still a formula. 350 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:41.759 You just have to do a very good job at 351 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:42.559 disguising it. 352 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:44.880 Now you see it over ten episodes as opposed to 353 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.519 seeing it over three acts. But when you watch that 354 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:51.319 movie Planes Trains, there are easter eggs along the way 355 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:53.960 that tell you his situation. 356 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:57.160 But I never picked up on it. 357 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:59.599 And the hardest thing to do as a writer is 358 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.160 to surprise somebody but still make it believable. 359 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.000 Yeah, you got to plant those things, and they did. 360 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:09.480 And then you know when he when Martin's on the 361 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.240 train going home and he starts thinking, and then they 362 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:15.319 played the you know, the soundbites of what Candy says, 363 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:17.559 and all of a sudden he realizes, oh my god, 364 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:19.799 you know, I've been home in years. You know that 365 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:23.400 line and all the others. And when you hear him 366 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:25.480 in the movie during the movie, because it's moving fast, 367 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:28.480 you just think, oh yeah, okay. But then when he 368 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.960 wraps it up at the end, boom, you know, and. 369 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.240 He's talking about and when he talks about his wife, right, 370 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:38.720 you know, he'll he'll speak about his wife, and you think, okay, well, 371 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:40.119 she's just at home waiting for him. 372 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:43.720 Yeah, you know, we got at least we got wives 373 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:45.480 who love us or something like that. When they're in 374 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:47.960 the second hotel room, you know, I just know where 375 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:49.119 the car burns up. 376 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:53.720 Oh my god, let's talk about that, Drew. When they're 377 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:57.119 driving down the highway and the thing is spinning around 378 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:57.799 how to get. 379 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:02.559 Thro and he punches him in the stomach and he 380 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:04.960 listens says, you know, that's how Audini died. You know, 381 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:07.839 I laugh every time I hear that. That's such a 382 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:08.640 great line. 383 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:09.640 Oh my god. 384 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:12.119 It is true that it is how Houdini died, which 385 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:13.559 makes it even more funny. 386 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:16.839 Anyway, we're just getting started. We got to talk about 387 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.000 Home Altte next. Plus Drew has seven other holiday movies 388 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:22.799 you can't miss. Plus is die Hard a holiday movie. 389 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:25.680 It's all coming up on WBZ with our guest Drew 390 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:28.279 Giano here on Nightside. 391 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:30.720 You're on night Side. 392 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:34.279 With Dan ray on WBZ, Boston's news Radio. 393 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:38.160 Welcome Buck, Gary Tankway for Dan ray tonight. Drew Janno 394 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:40.880 was my guest screenwriter professor Screenranger BC. 395 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:42.759 We're talking about holiday. 396 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:45.640 Movies in movies that we love and John Hughes is 397 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:47.440 a big part of this. Can you imagine if there 398 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:50.200 was no John Hughes, I mean Drew, I mean this guy, 399 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:55.400 he really he kind of developed a style, if you will, 400 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:56.039 a format. 401 00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:57.279