Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, welcome back to Shirley You Can't Be Serious podcast.
We are back again. Jason's here, I'm here, our friend
John Reid is here, and we are talking about an
innocent man.
Speaker 2: Track by track, no fluff, no silliness.
Speaker 1: One story. I got one story that I want to hear.
Speaker 2: John, tell me how you met your wife.
Speaker 3: So obviously this is one that's been told a few
times on our podcast. But so I credit Billy Joel
with the fact that I met and ultimately married the
person that I married to. So we were in we
were in high school together, and we were in the
same geography class, and I think we also had study
Haull and lunch together and all that, and we sat
next to each other, so you know, we would talk
from time to time, you know, when the teacher said,
trade your paper with somebody else so they can grade
yours and you grade theirs. So I knew she was
smart because she always scored higher on the quizzes than
I did. But there was another kid in class and
I that we were arguing at one point about who
was the bigger Billy Joel fan, and I was trying
to list off all the songs that I knew, and
he was listing off the songs that he knew, and
I just kind of like flippantly said, fine, if you're
such a big fan, what's the forty third word if
we didn't start the fire? And he's like, well, it's stupid,
like nobody knows. You can't like count the words. And
I'm like, well, fine, then I guess I'm just the
bigger fan. Well then what is it? Well, I'm not
going to tell you. So we did that whole thing. Well,
so the next day, come back to class and this
girl that's been sitting next to me that I've talked
to occasionally and you know, we've you know, we're right
next to each other. She comes back and she like,
I don't remember. I think she leans over and she
just goes it's I think it was like Eve or
the or something like that, and she just kind of
says it real quietly, and I'm like, so, Hi, there,
are you doing anything for the rest of your life?
Would you like to would like to go out sometime?
Can I buy you something in the cafeteria? And that
kind of started the whole thing. So we were actually
talking tonight before it was going to come on to
do our recording with you guys. We had been watching
an interview with Billy Joel and we said, you know what,
whenever he's not around anymore, like, that's going to be tough.
Because for me, David Bowie was real big growing up
for my family, So when he passed away, that was
kind of a big deal. Like that was a hard
hit when Robin Williams passed away. I always loved Robin Williams.
He was one of my favorites. That was a hard hit.
But my wife and I both said, because we in
the interview Billy Joel's looking a little older now, we said, gosh,
when he goes like that's going to be painful. Not
that he's been releasing new music in the last thirty years,
but when he goes, it's going to be it's gonna
be a hit for us. And and that was some
of the music that we played at our reception art
our wedding was Billy Joel and You're My Home has
always been a song that we've kind of had as
one of quote unquote our songs. I blame and credit
Billy for the fact that I'm married to who I'm
married to.
Speaker 1: I'm just imagining young John in class and the future
missus John Reed whispers in his ear and he channels
his inner. Orlando Calisi is, Oh, what do we have here?
Speaker 3: You truly belong here with us among the night.
Speaker 2: Hey, at least you told her about it, right?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Was she an uptown girl?
Speaker 3: I mean a girl like that wouldn't tell you what
you should do?
Speaker 2: All right? So back to my story, the nineteen eighty
two trip. Oh yeah, that Paul Simon literally drug him on,
right yeah. Billy Joel's like, listen, man, I don't want
to go to some resort in the middle of the
poor country where you're a rich person surrounded by a
bunch of pissed off poor people. And Paul Simon's not like, no,
this is a French colony. It's not like that at all.
It's gonna be awesome. Come with me. So Billy reluctantly
goes with Paul Simon to Saint Bart's well. After he
gets there and a day at the pool and he
gets beat red, sunburned, he wanders inside, he's tired, he's sunburned,
and sure enough, there's a piano in the bar at
the resort. He wanders over starts to kind of tickle
the keys, and the next thing you know, there's a
crowd of people around him, and he looks on his left,
Oh my gosh, that's Christy Brinkley. And he looks to
his right, Holy cow, that's all McPherson. He says. He
turned to the piano and gave a silent thank you
to the piano. Thank you, piano, you have been there
for me my entire life.
Speaker 3: You need a channel, or maybe you need to pull
a drop for the audio drop from the movie Amadeus
when he's trying on the different wigs in the movie Amedeus,
and he stops and he goes, they're also beautiful. Why
don't I have three heads?
Speaker 2: So listen to this. So the rest of the story,
as he's schmoozing, supermodel Christy Brinkley maybe maybe the most
beautiful woman in America.
Speaker 1: At that time, I mean nineteen eighty three, she was
National Lampoon's Vacation hottie Bumballati Yes.
Speaker 2: And supermodel Elle McPherson maybe the other hottest girl in America.
They're there for Sports Illustrated to shoot the swimsuit issue,
and so he's schmoozing. He's talking them up. Hey, ladies,
how's it going? Good to see it? And he's newly divorced.
He feels like a teenager. He's a rock star. He's
got beautiful women interested in him. He can't wait to
have meaningful conversations with these ladies, deep deep in meanings.
Speaker 1: Deep and meaningful conversation.
Speaker 2: And then he's got this teenager who comes up and
it starts to bug him, and he said he looked
at her. She's clearly a model, she's cute as a button.
And she's like, hey, I sing? Would it be okay
if I sang for you? And he's like, he gives it,
They'll go away, kid, you bother it, get lost. Yeah,
I'm sure you got a great singing voice, but can
you see who I'm talking to?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: And she persists. So he's like, hey, Christy, why don't
you join me in the singing of this whatever song?
And that little model is like, I sing, I sing,
and he finally has to be like beat it, kid,
that kid, Yeah, Whitney Houston. What the heck? Whitney Houston,
Whitney Houston. Goodness, gracious, what the heck?
Speaker 4: He says.
Speaker 2: He kicks himself because he could have been the guy
who discovered Whitty Houston.
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: You know what, though, I don't think he probably was
kicking himself too hard.
Speaker 2: I had three heads made, all right, So let's talk
overall about an innocent man. This album is released August third,
nineteen eighty three. Billy jo said he wrote this in
about eight weeks. He said he was newly divorced, feeling
like a teenager, and the songs.
Speaker 1: Just poured out well, and the feeling like a teenager
took him back to the time when he was a teenager,
which is why all of these songs borrow so heavily
from the fifties and sixties. We are talking about Lionel
Riach moving away from the Motown sound, and we were
talking about Billy Joel moving into the Motown's sound, moving
up or moving out. I don't know what it is,
but there you go.
Speaker 2: You know, for a super fan like John, he probably
knew this. But before we dove into this, yeah, I
didn't even realize this is a concept album. Oh, each
song is a homage to an artist from the fifties
and sixties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is so much fun and it's so much
fun to go if you haven't done this. You gotta
do this. I actually made leading up to when we
were gonna be talking about this, I made a playlist
that had Innocent Man, and then after each song in
Innocent Man, I dropped in at least one two maybe
songs by who I thought or who I had been
able to find that he said he had been influenced by.
And it was so much fun to just go song
by song and be like, let's listen to easy Money. Okay,
now let's pull up a James Brown or Wilson Pickett
or you know, let's pull up this song. And now
I'm gonna pull up the one that he says inspired him, like, yeah,
you can absolutely hear the faintest hint of the little
like dinging bell sound at the beginning of that song.
It's in both songs. So much fun to do it
that way, and it's it's I think it was so
much fun for him to be able to go back
to his childhood and relive all this stuff and try
to channel all these different musicians, because he said in
interviews that he hates his own voice. He's like, I
hate my own voice. I always wanted to sing like
somebody else He's like, this album was kind of my
chance to really try it out and sing like somebody else.
And in each of these songs when he's channeling James Brown,
he's singing like James Brown. He's got the hack in
the song and the get down. So yeah, I think
this this must have been such a fun, fun album
for him.
Speaker 2: Modern artists, if you're listening to this podcast, please do
a homage to the eighties and nineties, will buy the album. Absolutely,
it'd be freaking awesome. Yeah, before we dive in track
by track, This album was nominated for Album of the
Year and Best Pop Vocal and it lost both too.
Speaker 1: Can't Slow Down?
Speaker 2: Nope, what thriller?
Speaker 4: Or yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well and when those are your two options, I
just got to respond with They're both so beautiful. I
wish I had two heads.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: First song on the album is a song called easy Money.
Speaker 1: What James Brown?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 1: I don't hear any James Brown? And that is what
are you talking about? Oh my gosh, listen guys for
this song. For me, this was a new to me song.
I was not familiar with easy Money. All of the
Billie Joel songs that are in my history and somehow
this one escaped me. But I put this in as
I picked up Caleb from soccer practice and we were
both just gruve it. I mean, we're just shaking our
shoulders back and forth and bobbing our head and fighting
our lip and looking at each other like, yeah, let
me go. This is awesome. So this was a great
find for me.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the song that got the whole album
started right. So he wrote it for the Rodney danger
Field Joe Peshi movie Joe Forgo Pesci Easy Money.
Speaker 4: Money.
Speaker 2: Yep, and Rodney Dangerfield is going to make an appearance
here later on just a few songs. But this was
a movie that I knew was just a little bit
inappropriate for me at age ten, But that doesn't mean
I didn't try to watch it.
Speaker 3: It's a great kickoff to the album. I wouldn't say
it's my favorite song on the album, but it's such
a fun way to kick it off and get that
fifties and sixties style sound. And if you don't hear
the James Brown in it, then you got to go
listen to some more James Brown because it's just it's
such a fun, just high energy song to kick the
whole thing off with.
Speaker 2: Somebody asked him if he ever was a big gambler
like Rodnie Dangerfield's character in the movie, and he said,
you know what, one time, when I was in high school,
I bet my life savings on a sure thing horse.
So my life savings was about sixty bucks. The horse lost.
Said he cured him for the rest of his life,
never gambled.
Speaker 3: Again, I think, he said in an interview, I want
to say it was on Howard Stern's show. He said
that this one was kind of inspired by his experiences
working in piano bars, and he said that he'd a
lot of times he'd see wealthy people come in flashing
their money around, and you know, he just was kind
of frustrated with the arrogance and the entitlement of these
wealthy people that would come in and just throw cash
around all the time. And so this is kind of
his response to that.
Speaker 2: All right, Moving on to the second track on the album,
third single, that's called an Innocent Man.
Speaker 5: Some people stay far away from.
Speaker 2: The door if there's a chance of the little man.
Speaker 6: May voice in the hole outside and hold that it
just passes by.
Speaker 2: This is a powerful song. I enjoy this one. It's
not my favorite on the album, but he really vocally,
he's really getting after it.
Speaker 1: This is my favorite song on the album is one
hundred much. This one is an homage to Benny King,
both solo and when he was with the Drifters. To me,
especially the beginning sounds, it's very Dock of the Bay
by Otis Redding. But when he kicks into that chorus, dude,
I'm like, yeah, this is definitely my number one of
the albums. Yeah.
Speaker 3: If you want to pull a couple other songs that
really really kind of you can tell influence this one.
Benny King's stand by Me, the Drifters save the Last
Dance for Me. It's got a little hint of maybe
a little bit of Righteous Brothers in it. It kind
of calls back a little bit too Until the Night,
one of his other previous songs. It's got some similar
sounds to that. But he has said that this song
was inspired by his own setbacks, like all the stuff
that he dealt with early on, and that you really
can you really can make a change.
Speaker 6: I'm only willing to hear you cry because I am
an innocent.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 3: This is probably my second favorite on the album, but Yeah,
just I absolutely love this song, and from what I recall,
this is one of the first ones to get played
pretty regularly on MTV. The video and that I'm sure
also helped boost his reputation and get him in front
of people, I mean, people who didn't already know who
he was. Get him in on MTV. Was just broadening
his audience.
Speaker 2: He said when it was recording this that he had
a feeling this would be the last time he'd be
able to hit that really high note, but he nails
it on this song.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you can only hit the high notes
when you play for Christy Lee.
Speaker 2: Yes, the song reached number ten on the Hot one
hundred third single number one on the Adult Contemporary chart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun. Like
some of the some of the connections to like who
inspired these songs, I until I started digging into a
couple of them, Like some of them are obvious, but
then a couple I was like, how did I not
know that? Yeah, as we get a little bit further
on into the album, like there's one song in particular
that there's there's an artist from the fifties and sixties
that I absolutely love and I was like, of course
he sounds like him. How did I not make that connection?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 3: It was driving me nuts. As soon as I was
reading up some stuff on it, I was like, all right,
well now I feel dumb.
Speaker 2: Okay, you gotta tell us that story we.
Speaker 1: Want to get there. Yeah, yeah, okay. So I asked Caleb.
Caleb is a Billy Joel fan, okay, And so he
came in because we have stuff in here that he
needed to go to sleep, and so I'm like, oh, hey, dude,
what's your favorite Billy Joel song. He's like, okay, Piano Man,
Innocent Man, or River of Dreams. Here was no Instant Man,
no River. I don't know, dad.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's okay, you got you got one songs
on this album.
Speaker 1: That we're talking about, So I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 2: So Caleb's favorite on this album at least is Innocent
Man as well. Okay, great, all right. Third song on
the album. That song is Cold the Longest.
Speaker 5: Time, Woo.
Speaker 7: For the longest Time, whoa the longest You said good
Bye to me too?
Speaker 5: Nine.
Speaker 2: So this is a du op of do Ops Baby.
Speaker 1: This one is an homage to Frankie Lyman of the teenagers.
If you don't know that name Why Do Fools Fall
in Love?
Speaker 3: If you play the beginning of the Longest Time, even
just like the first ten seconds, and then play the
first ten seconds of Why Do Fools Fall in Love,
You'll be sitting there going, well, good Lord. Of course
they're of course they're influenced by it.
Speaker 2: So he talks about how he was method singing on this, right,
mm hmm, so he would pretend to be sort of
these characters. He does all the vocals, all the backing vocals,
he does all the snapping.
Speaker 6: That happens goes on. That's where you found when you
put jars around me hang this time.
Speaker 2: The only thing instrument wise on this is there's a
bass and somebody hitting a snare with the brushes.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's right. I don't know
if there's a real bass or if it's just a
bass somebody humming the bass notes, and it could be
Billy Joel humming the bass notes. I mean, he's supposed
to just have the lead part and have a vocal
group come help him. By Phil Ramone the producers like,
let's just have you do all of the parts and
you can definitely hear his varying voices throughout. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a great one if you've got family
and you want to sing this all together. It hits
all the different people's ranges, like my kids, my wife
will be in the car this song comes on. I
let the rest of them take the high notes, and
I'm usually the person sitting in the sitting in the
driver's seat, or sitting somewhere else in the car going,
oh the Longest I'm just picking up that part. Typically
the other fun one about this one, and I think
I've mentioned this a couple of times. There was a
I think it's called Extraordinary. There was a series that
was on CNN Plus in twenty twenty two and the
interviewer was his name was, I think for Reid Zakaria,
and he did an interview with Billy Joel as part
of his Extraordinary People series. But there's a really cool
part in there. They reference both this song for the
Longest Time and Uptown Girl, And it's awesome because you
watch Billy Joel in the interview is sitting at the
piano and he's explaining how he believes some of his
best songs have a very classical music bass to them,
and he's and he just like, matter of fact, he says, well,
like Uptown Girl. Uptown Girl has a has a Mozart
bass to it. And I'm sitting there like wait, what yeah,
And you see him in the video. He's like, let
me play it for you. He starts to play just
the just a very simple melody of Uptown Girl, and
it sounds exactly like something Mozart would have written. And
he's like, yeah, and we'll just we'll add this other
little part over here, and he starts playing the whole
thing on the piano, and I'm sitting there going, holy crap,
Uptown Girl is Mozart. And then he plays he does
this and he's like yeah, for the longest time, same thing,
and he starts playing it and it sounds I think
that one is maybe a little bit more of a
of a Heiden, maybe a little bit of a Mozart.
But he always talks about how he's so influenced by
classical composers and and Beethoven is always his favorite. But
there is so much when you if you take out
the rest of the audio and just listen to him,
you know, play the simple little melody on the piano
of this it completely sounds like something Moltzart would have written.
Speaker 2: Beethoven gets a writing credit here in just a minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, incredible.
Speaker 2: I love the song. This song was released March of
nineteen eighty four, reached number fourteen on the Hot one hundred,
number one in the Adult Contemporary And this was one
of the songs on the album that I wore out
all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, love it.
Speaker 3: This is actually my favorite song on the album.
Speaker 2: Man, we still haven't got to my favorite song.
Speaker 1: How about that? We got three different ones?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: Moving on to the next song on the album. This
song is called this Night.
Speaker 6: Lassage was ready f man, we prum sweet.
Speaker 4: So Dan it was.
Speaker 7: Dance.
Speaker 2: I started breaking my promise.
Speaker 1: Say, okay, Jason, I'm gonna play this for you back
to back. I'm gonna try to play this for you
back to back so that hopefully you can hear it.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 1: It's a way nice.
Speaker 5: It is a long time away, yes night.
Speaker 3: And last for me, there was a kid at my
daughter plays piano, and we were at one of our
piano recitals and there was a kid that was gonna
play piano Sonata number eight. And of course when the
whole thing is over. I turned to my family and
I said, you know what, any kid that plays Billy
Joel at the piano recitals?
Speaker 1: So John, I was talking to Jason over the week
and I'm like, are you familiar with this Beethoven song?
Because my dad used to play this on the piano
all the time. Loved this Beethoven song. And when I
listened to this night, this was another one of those
undiscovered gems for me. When he hits the chorus at
about fifty eight seconds into the song, I'm like, I
know this tune. I know that, and I'm like, oh
my gosh, this is Beethoven. And sure enough I looked
it up. Not only does he homage to Beethoven along
with the d wopping, but he also gives him writing credit.
He gives him writing credit. No other band member, like
his drummer Billy Joels, had to sue him to get
some royalties for some of the stuff that he's done.
Nobody else gets credited on this album except Billy Joel
and l v B seven.
Speaker 3: And my discovery of this was backwards, Like I was
listening to some Beethoven music at one point and I
was like, Wow, he covered Billy Joel, that's really cool.
Now he do that, that's awesome. It's a whole time
travel thing. Well, and Billy Joel. He has said before
Beethoven is probably his favorite classical composer because he looks
at some of the others like he's made a comparison.
He's like, yeah, Mozart, it's kind of like Mozart showed
up fully formed, like everything is is perfect and every
note is in its right place, and Mozart, you know,
basically like if you've seen the movie Amedais, I think
Saliary makes a comment at one point and he's like,
it's as if he's just dictating the music. It's like
there's no scribbles, there's no you know, nothing is scratched off.
It's just perfect as it's getting written down on the paper.
And Bill Joel said that he actually owned a piece
of an actual piece of Beethoven's music and that you
take a look at it and there's whole sections that
are just scratched off, like he got almost as if
he got angry with the terrible parts he had written
and just scratched him off. And he's like, that's why
I love Beethoven. He said to me, Beethoven is the
most human of composers because he's angry, he's got passion,
he's got frustration. He's like to me, I can relate
to him so much more than I can now that
I don't love Mozart, but I can relate to him
because he's just like me. You know.
Speaker 2: This song lyrically is about el McPherson and his relationship
with her. She was nineteen when they were dating at
the time.
Speaker 1: He would have been thirty four.
Speaker 2: So here's the idea, right, Elmi Feerston is like, Okay,
I like you, let's keep it light, let's not get
too serious, and he's like, right, right, sounds good. And
what happens He falls madly in love with her, right,
and he's like, as soon as he gets around her,
all those rules go out the window. So that's what
lyrically this song is about. This was actually the seventh single.
This album had seven singles out of ten songs.
Speaker 1: This album is almost got a batting average, almost as
good as can't put down. It's in crowd, right, so
she says, let's just have fun. Let's just have some fun,
no reason to get serious. Yeah, and he gets too serious,
so she breaks up with him, and his rebound girlfriend
is Christy Brinkley.
Speaker 3: My story is, it's a good gig if you can
get it.
Speaker 2: You know, Oh my gosh, I've got a story. There's
a blow your socks off. We're gonna get to it
here in a couple of songs.
Speaker 1: Okay, So interestingly, this one, as much as I like it,
this just in the US only got released as the
B side of Leave a Tender Moment Alone.
Speaker 2: Yep, Crazy reach number seventy eight on the Hot one hundred.
Speaker 3: This is such a great song between the Beethoven music
and it just I mean some of the lyrics too,
is just there are some some of my favorite Billy
Joel lines are here. And so we dance, though it
was only a slow dance. I started breaking my promises
right there. And then. He will talk about how he's
much more interested in the music than he is the lyrics.
But in terms of being a songwriter, there's there's very
few times I don't think he doesn't knock it out
of the park.
Speaker 1: He is one of my favorite lyricists of all times.
He absolutely such a picture. I mean, you know, all
of the people at the piano bar. You know, the
guys who are breaking their back, polishing their tires on
moving out, you know, all like he has these images
of these folks and he conveys it in such a
perfect way through his lyrics. Definitely one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: The image that he always portrays for me that stands
out is the microphone that smells like a beer.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: Every time he describes I'm like, yep, I'm with you?
Speaker 1: Makes sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, can we get to my favorite song?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: So here we are? All right, let's get to my
favorite song on the album. It's the first single release.
This song is called tell Her About It. I don't
want to see you at a good thing? Snip away
you know what?
Speaker 5: Don't like watch about it? Mate? Same mistakes that mate.
Speaker 7: She's an realize gal and she's always damp with you.
Speaker 1: So this song is obviously an homage to the Blues Brothers.
The Blues Brothers when they when those orange blast in
at the beginning. I am definitely thinking Jacob Elwood Blue
to baby.
Speaker 2: How can you not tap your toes when you're listening
to this song?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 2: It's it's such a snappy, upbeat, feel good toe tapper,
I crank it up every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this one actually is an homage to the Supremes
and the Temptations right there in the heart of motown.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He talked about about every time the Supremes sang a song,
they were always giving some sort of advice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. That's a good point.
Speaker 2: They're always giving advice. And so he's like, I want
to be Diana Ross.
Speaker 3: To play this if you, if you to create like
a I don't know, like a Dear Abby playlist, play
this one back to back with you Can't hurry Love.
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Lyrically and stylistically, the two are the two are just
they're they're like cousins.
Speaker 2: Spot on for sure.
Speaker 7: No tell the foul, tell everything, give every reason to
accept chum.
Speaker 2: This was released July seventeenth, nineteen eighty three. This is
the least single. It reached number one in September of
nineteen eighty three. Knocking Out Maniac by Michael Simbelo Flash Chance. Yeah, okay,
can we talk about the video for a second.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the video, okay.
Speaker 2: So it's a old school style. They've got an guy
looks just like at Sullivan and he's like, all right,
ladies and gentlemen, mister William Joel. Billy Joel's like, listen,
I'm not photogenic. I know, I'm not a great looking guy.
He goes, So, when I did the videos, I was
just pretended like I was Elvis. I didn't look like Elvis,
but I pretended like I was Elvis, and that came
off reasonably well. And then at the end of the video,
you have, of course, mister Rodney Dangerfield repaying the favor
of Billy Joel writing the song easy Money for his movie,
and he's in the video, and the Ed Sullivan guy's like,
and now the talented, the amazing Fonzie the Bear whatever,
no respect for Rodney danger film.
Speaker 1: That's hysterical.
Speaker 2: All right, So I got a great story for you
on the video for tell her about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he was directed by a guy named Jay Dubitt,
and Jay when he set off, he never intended to
do music videos. They're asking him about it. How did
you get involved in music videos? You don't even really
have a film background. He's like, I don't like music.
Why would anybody call me? I don't even like music.
I'd never listened to the radio. Not a music guy. Well,
listen to this. This is how he got involved. He
needed money, and so he started doing the crazy Eddie
electronics commercials in New York City. Crazy and He's greatest
TV and video sale ever. Get anything and everything in.
Speaker 3: TV and video. Crazy and He's greatest TV and video
sale ever.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be insane.
Speaker 2: So he gets a call out of the blue from
John Lennon. John Lennon sees these commercials and asked him,
will you do my music video for Double Fantasy? And
that's how he gets involved in making music videos. John
Lennon calls him out of the.
Speaker 1: Freaking blue, No, who is this real?
Speaker 2: So he ends up doing listen to this? He does
Private Eyes by Hello Notes. Uh huh, he does. I
can't go for that. Yeh you make my dreams come true?
And then of course tell her about it an uptown.
Speaker 1: Girl, so tell her about it. Also had a co director.
Would you like to guess who the co director was?
Speaker 2: Christy Brigley close it was John's Oh yeah, so the
guy whose wife.
Speaker 1: Billy Joel stole directed this video with the guy who
hates music. I don't what I know how about that
that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a few times during his life that he
had a bit of a falling out with some folks,
and thankfully it sounds like they've reconciled. Like said Liberty
de Vito, his drummer, like they had a long falling
out for a while. And one of the saxophonists that
he worked with, they had a falling out for a while.
But it kind of seems like that's a running theme
of Billy Joel's career is all right, so we get
angry at each other, we fight for a bit, and
I don't know, maybe twenty years later, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yea, even Christy Brinkley they're divorced and they're still tight,
you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the other I love his band name
in the music video is BJ in the Affordables.
Speaker 1: This is crazy. It's a lot of fun, a whole
lot of fun. Thanks me back.
Speaker 3: This song has not been performed live since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this blows me away. How in the world is
a number one song not played live? I mean, I
don't get it.
Speaker 3: So according to Billy Joel's from what I've heard is
that there's a couple of different reasons partly he feels
like he can't hit the falsetto notes anymore, which okay,
I get that, But then the other part of it
too is he kind of commented, like when the song
was released on the album, he thought great fit and
like it sounds great on the album. The video, I
don't know that he was as happy with the video
and how it all came off, you know, seeing himself
perform this on a video, I don't think he was
quite as happy with that. And he would perform it
on stage when obviously when these albums came out, when
they were doing the tours for Innocent Man and The Bridge,
he just felt like it didn't work on stage. He's like,
live on stage, this song doesn't work as well. It's
meant to be within the context of an album. That's
how you should listen to it. I'm not doing this
one anymore. So he stopped it. After nineteen eighty seven,
he stopped performing this one live.
Speaker 2: You know, I did hear him talked about his songs.
He said, my songs are like children. Some of them
grow up and their doctors and their lawyers and their teachers,
and some of them are just kind of bums. This
might be in that category, or he just doesn't hold
it as high as he does other songs, you know.
Speaker 3: And some are Captain Jack that he demotes to private.
Speaker 2: All right, hit stop on your take, dick, take it out,
flip it over for side two, and we started off
with one of the biggest songs on the album. This
song is called Uptown Girl.
Speaker 1: Okay for that first drum beat coming out, I mean
it's like the beginning of Thriller. I mean, you know
this song is going to be great as soon as
you hear those first three beats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's fantastic. What a great song this is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of the other ones that he
if you listen to that interview with him, he plays
it as a kind of a classical Mozart bass and
then he just kind of builds on it from there
and you're like, good lord, that's so amazing that you
strip away everything else, rip away the lyrics, trip away
the vocal, strip away the all the other pieces, and
it sounds so much like a Mozart song, but its
homage to the Four Seasons, you know, And he wanted
to do this as kind of a recording of you know,
Frankie Valley in the Four Seasons in the sixties. And
if you want to pair this with another song, which
they kind of you know, they start off and they
sound really similar. Is play this next to Big Girls
Don't Cry?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was thinking walk like a Man to me. Yeah,
I got a lot of walk like a Man out
of this one. But still, Frankie Valley, this is a
great one. I got to say. Back in the mid eighties, though,
I got overwhelmed by this one. It was on so much,
the video was on so much that I was like, Okay,
you've killed it for me. Guys, you've overdone it. Now
I've grown to love it again. It's been long enough.
I still enjoy it. But they beat me over the
head with it.
Speaker 2: So this song is written a bit out Elle McPherson
and Christy Briekley the Uptown Girls. It was plural. He
started off writing it about el McPherson and then.
Speaker 1: Switched gears when she broke up with it.
Speaker 2: When they broke up and uh and Christy entered the picture.
And of course Christy's in the video, so she's clearly
the Uptown Girl.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: So the video is you know, a car mechanic, Billy
Joel running around with his buddy mechanics.
Speaker 1: It's very grease.
Speaker 2: It's very great.
Speaker 4: It is very grease.
Speaker 2: Here's the funny part is that the choreographer for the
beat It video was working with Billy Joel and Christy Breekley,
neither of whom can dance at all. Oh yeah, and
he's like, all right, guys, listen, just one to kick, one,
two kick, and they can barely do it, right.
Speaker 1: I kind of remember this guy talking. Now that you
say this, you're bringing back a memory from literally thirty
years ago. I can remember seeing that guy going, man,
I don't even understand how this guy walks without falling over.
Speaker 2: Yes, and she's no better, right right. So they talked
about how they shot this video in New York City.
It was like the hottest day of the year. It's
like one hundred and ten degrees. Christy Brinkley was in
high heels. She said it was so hot. Every time
she took a step, her heels sank in the asphalt.
And Billy Joels said, across the street, there's like five
hundred people watching them. Philly video and Christy Brinkley's dancing
and they're running around, and he said, about every ten minutes,
some mooke would yell show us your no oh no,
So there you go, New York City, some mooke, some mooke. Okay,
I've got something for you on this, okay. And I
don't know the whole story, okay, But apparently Princess Diana
in nineteen eighty five wanted to surprise Prince Charles by
appearing on stage of the Royal Ballet and she danced
a choreographed dance to uptown girl. Oh my, this is
Princess Diana. Yeah, there's no video of this. Apparently he
didn't like it, okay, but she was doing it to
impress him or you know, tantalize him or something.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: And it's actually portrayed in the Netflix series The Crown
in the episode Avalanche. And you can actually watch this.
Speaker 3: Yeah have you seen it, John, Yeah, Yeah, we watched
The Crown. Yeah, it's and it's it's such a funny
story because it's Prince Charles, I think is so much well, now,
King Charles, I think it probably would have just thrown
him off that he's like, well, excuse me, I'm trying
to enjoy an evening at the Ballet and I don't
don't know why you're bringing in rock and roll. I
feel like that that would have been his response to it.
And she's probably thinking, you know, she's young and she's
full of life, and she's like, I'm gonna do this,
and maybe this will make my husband happy and maybe we'll,
you know, maybe this will kind of help our relationship
a bit. And I can just picture him knowing a
little bit of what I do about his personality just
over the years, reading different things and and you know,
seeing videos and documentaries with him, and I'm thinking he
probably was just looking at that going, I guess the
evening's over now, the ballet is done, and uh, all right,
it's time to go home now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, flighten up a bit.
Speaker 2: Love this song, Love the video. This is definitely deep
deep eighties for me.
Speaker 3: This is perfect karaoke material too. Yeah, like this is
the high notes are tough to hit. But when I
was teaching at one of our middle schools, and I
was still a teacher in the building, we would have
these nights a couple of nights a year, and we
would have all kinds of games for the kids. They
could come in after school and we'd have games for
the kids and like obstacle courses and pizza and music
and all kinds of other stuff. And one of the
stations we always had in one of the rooms, one
of the classrooms, was we had a karaoke machine. And
this karaoke actually I think it was a PlayStation we
had set up and it had the SingStar game where
you could sing karaoke, and Uptown Girl was on the
SingStar eighties version of it. And I don't know how
this ever enticed any kids to come to this thing.
The day before, like at the end of the school day,
we would have a big assembly with all the kids
in there. And actually I think it was Pat Cannagallo,
who's on the thirty something podcast with me. I think
we might have sang Uptown Girl. And as we were
singing Uptown Girl, and nobody ever needs to hear me
sing Uptown Girl, But as we were singing Uptown Girl
in front of a gymnasium full of what would have
been like six hundred middle school kids, we had cranked
the volume up so high, and I think we were
singing it so loud we blew out the speakers in
the gym. Oh and so the gym teachers were mad
at us, the facilities folks were mad at us, and
we're like, okay, that's if you guys want to If
you guys want to sing it, come back tonight. We'll
do some more singing. But sorry, sorry, we didn't do that.
Sip your waitress, but Uptown Girl, great karaoke song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one you talked about how it did in
the US. This is his only number one hit in
the UK, only one, and it knocked off a song
from an album that you were a big fan of. Also,
a UK band knocked it out for the number one
position November nineteen eighty three. So like, I guess what
that is? How about how do you like the Wolf? No?
It is kar Machamelion by the Culture Plot.
Speaker 2: All right, next song on the album. This song is
called Careless Talk.
Speaker 5: Oh oh.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah yeah, yah yeah yeah ya.
Speaker 5: Man, let's talk him.
Speaker 2: That's what you heard about me.
Speaker 1: Let's do them, okay, boys. This one is an homage
to the King of Soul himself, mister Sam Cook. And
I don't know which song you guys think of when
you think of Sam Cook, but for me, it's Twisted
the Night Away and I could definitely hear it on
this song.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one, I think the one I and this
is the one I was talking about earlier that I
love Sam Cook.
Speaker 5: Letting me tell you about the place somewhere up.
Speaker 3: Like some of my when you go back to like
the nineteen fifties and sixties, nineteen fifties in particular Sam Cook,
Nat King Cole, I love those. In fact, I got
picked on in high school because I was like some
of my friends on the football team. They're like, so, like,
would you guys get for Christmas? Like we're coming back
and we're in the weight room after Christmas breaking, like,
would you get for Christmas? I was like, guys, I
got a four disc set of Nat King Cole's greatest hits.
Speaker 1: They're like, John was so cool? Can we hang out
with you every day?
Speaker 3: They're like, Nat King what it was like? Uh? Is
that a rapper? No lessen to all you kids out there.
Maybe don't mention that in the locker room places where
it's okay to mention that. Maybe not the locker room.
But I love Sam Cook like he is on regular
rotation for me. Now I had the songs I think
about with that one actually the one that I paired
with this one on my playlist was I did the
song you send Me? But yeah, this is the one
I was. I was mentioned earlier that I was just
I was shocked. I was like, why did I not
figure out? Of course he sounds like Sam Cook. I
love Sam Cook. I listened to Sam Cook all the time.
How did I not connect careless talk with Sam Cook?
And it just it blew my mind when I realized,
you are so dumb? Why don't you like pay attention sometimes?
Speaker 1: I went down the rabbit hole of Sam Cook in
the research for this one, and boy, interesting death he
had at thirty three years old. I'm not going to
go into that story because we don't have a time
for that. But wow, that's that's a strange set of
circumstances there. Okay, I'm teasing you with it. Someday we'll
talk about Sam Cook's death, but it's not gonna be today.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the weakest song on the whole album
for me. Okay, this is my least favorite song. It's
just kind of there. It's not a bad song, it's
just kind of there, you know, it's not Skipper, just
kind of waiting for the next one.
Speaker 1: All right, we done with the one. Are you ready
for the next one?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: All right? Then the next one is song number eight, Christy.
Speaker 4: Leet So if you don't.
Speaker 1: Hear Jerry Lee Lewis or Little Richard on this one,
you are missing the boat, my friend.
Speaker 2: All right, listen, this is this is what this song
reminds me of. Okay, yeah, have you ever seen whose line?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: And they get Wayne Brady and they're like, we'll grab
somebody out of the crowd. What's your name, honey, Christy Lee?
All right, you're going to sing the Christy Lee in
the style of Jerry Lee Lewis ready said, go boom.
This sounds like you just made it up on the
spot singing about his girlfriend Christy Lee.
Speaker 1: Maybe he did.
Speaker 2: I know, he said it poured out of him. But
this sounds like an improv song.
Speaker 1: John, what do you think this one is?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's absolutely Little Richard, Fats Domino, Jerry
Lee Lewis. In fact, if there's if there's a song
you wanted to pair this one with, I would say
listen to this one. And they almost just sound like
clones of each other. Listen to this one. Next to
Little Richard's long, tall Sally. Maybe he came the music
buddy and a lot of fun. It is almost like
I mean, especially as it starts off, it is almost
like a clone of this song Billy Joel, I want
to say, covered Great Balls of Fire at a at
a concert in eighty one and sounded a lot like
Christy Lee. This is the one where I found the
My Lives album, which is like the remixes and the
demos and the and actually listening to it, both my
wife and I agreed. We think we like the demo,
like the unreleased demo version better than the album version
of Christy Lee. His vocals are clearer and the piano
is much clearer. I mean, this one's fun because it's
it's fun. It's it's you know, a pan I know,
rock song, But I feel like you just hear the
most important parts his voice and the piano you hear
just a little bit cleaner in the demo version of it.
So if you get a chance to go find that one,
definitely listen to that. But it's kind of a fun song,
especially if you like trying to figure out, you know,
lyrics that maybe don't mean what you think they mean,
or maybe when I don't know, when a song called
Lakeshore Drive really isn't about the road that's in Chicago,
maybe it is, or or maybe it's about LSD in
this song. Maybe a saxophone is just a saxophone. It's
probably not, you know, Or when when you're shocked as
a teenager to realize exactly what the song the ZZ
top song I Got the six is about, you know,
it's It's one of those songs. It can be an
eye opening song when you learn what the lyrics are about.
Speaker 1: After the words the ZZ top song, you literally could
have said any yes, any easy top song and it
would have be like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's what that
pearl necklace?
Speaker 2: Right? Okay. I got to tell you about the greatest
twenty four hours in the nineteen eighties. Okay, yeah, we
talked about this on our Lionel Richie episode that Lionel
Richie may have had the greatest twenty four hours in
the nineteen eighties. He hosted the AMAS, won six Awards,
and then afterwards, as a post AMA party, they recorded
We Are the World and fed millions of people from
the proceeds of that song. Yeah, that's a pretty freaking great.
Twenty four hours sure, Okay, Now, then let's pairro it
versus this twenty four hour period. Okay, Billy Joel is
dating El McPherson on and off. Okay, she goes back
to Australia, and now he's got his sight set on
Christy Lee Briekley. She had been seeing a guy he
was killed in an accident and he is there as
a friend and.
Speaker 1: Race card driver.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, starts to kind of move in for
the kill. He invites her back to his apartment. Christy
Brinkley has agreed to go back to apartment and inside
he's jumping for joy. This is the night, right, this night,
this night, this night, Yes with Christy Lee.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They get back to his apartment and when he opens
the door, there's El McPherson with her luggage and she's
crashing at his apartment. Oh, this man had El McPherson
and Christy Brinkley on the hook at the exact same moment.
We share oxygen with this person. But there's a real
person out there who was able to pull this off.
Speaker 1: And let's not forget that Billy Joel looks like Billy
Joels exactly he does not look like Chris Hemsworth. He
looks like Billy Joel.
Speaker 2: He was like, if the guy's back at Hicksville Cove,
see me.
Speaker 1: I tried to. I think I mentioned this. I was
talking to my wife about this. I'm like, I mean,
there's just no way that this makes any sense except
that he's a rock star. And she's like, oh, no,
he's kind of cute. Sometimes I'm like, he doesn't sing
and he doesn't play the piano. What do you think now,
It's like, oh no, he's a toad. I'm like, that's
right exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys, I don't know if
you guys know that there was There was actually a
poem that was written a very long time ago, and
it actually prophesied this moment. Are you guys familiar with
Robert Frost the last stanza of one of his most
famous poems. I shall be telling this with a sigh
somewhere Ages and ages. Hence, two blondes diverged in an
apartment and I it didn't matter which one, and that
has made all the difference.
Speaker 4: It is very nice.
Speaker 2: So the rest of the story is Christy Brinkley excused
herself politely left and Elle McPherson was just there to crash.
So I don't think he quote unquote closed the deal
with either of them that night. And he said still,
I couldn't help thinking Frank Sinatra would have somehow made
a threesome of that night and instead swinging a miss.
Swinging a miss the reason he's the chairman.
Speaker 3: Word Frank, Frank does it his way.
Speaker 2: Still, that's a pretty impressive twenty four hour period to
have those women both at your apartment at.
Speaker 3: The same time.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that Christy Brinkley left tender man went alone.
Speaker 2: She left a tender moment alone. Let's move on to that.
Speaker 1: Song, all right, number nine on the album, second to
the last song we have leave a tender moment alone.
Speaker 2: Even the alone.
Speaker 6: Sometimes I gets so afraid I'll say something, so.
Speaker 5: Just to have something to say, know the moment, is it?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Guys?
Speaker 1: The beautiful blues harp that you hear on this particular.
Speaker 2: Song is by mister Toots Steelman's our man, Toots Steelman.
Speaker 1: That part to me is very rain drops falling on
my head.
Speaker 2: I can see that that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it hits me that way every single time
now This song is an homage to Smokey Robinson, so
I can kind of hear that too, but I'm def
thinking raindrops falling on my head.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I paired this one on my playlist
with Being with You I Smokey Robinson. As I was
writing down my list of how I would rank the
songs on this album, it ended up in this almost
started an argument in our house. This one actually ended
up last on the list for me, but I had
to clarify that and say, okay, hold on, now, this
is last on the list for the entire Innocent Man album.
That doesn't mean anything like last on my list for
this album is like still at the top of almost
all Billy Joel songs. You know this, like you were
saying earlier, to have seven of these songs seven out
of ten, you know, reached the heights that they did.
But it's just it's such a beautiful song and the
lyrics are so good.
Speaker 2: I love this one. This reached number twenty seven and
the Hot one hundred, number one on the Adult Contemporary.
Is this a country song?
Speaker 3: It feels like it a bit. I think there's moments
where it kind of feels it's got a little little
tiny bit of a country sound to it.
Speaker 1: I think, Oh, I mean the song that I'm relating
it to came from a cowboy movie, so you get yes,
there you go.
Speaker 2: This was the fifth single this kind radio play. I
remember this song very well, being making the rounds.
Speaker 1: You know, for sure I love it.
Speaker 3: And what I mean, what person hasn't been in the situation,
you know, you go with. I want to say, it's
like the second let me the second stanza in the song,
I know the moment. Is it right to tell the
girl a comical line? Keep the conversation light? I guess
I'm just frightened out of my mind. You know, Like
we said, this whole album is him going through that
dating phase, you know, after his divorce and this whole
dating feeling like a kid again. And I'm like, this
song kind of takes you back to that whole feeling
of like, Okay, I don't want to screw this up.
Just don't want me screw this up. Let me say
the right thing, let me at the right time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And even better than saying something to screw it up,
just don't say anything at all. Leave a tender moment alone.
Speaker 3: Leave it alone. A lot of really good advice in
this album. Yeah, tell her about it, but sometimes shut up.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's good. All right, let's move on to
the last song on the album. This song is called
even the Faith.
Speaker 5: If it seems like Tamplin Loston, Let's remember.
Speaker 7: If you can feeling Nola Ram missing my younger days.
Speaker 5: Show. I don't know him much.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a super catchy song. It was
on the radio all the time. But for me, the
most interesting thing to talk about here is the music video.
Richard Pryor, Christy Brinkley again, and Joe Piscopo. Actually, there's
also another guy I want to mention. His name's Richard
Schule from the movie Splash. He plays doctor Ross. There's
the guy who tells Eugene Levy's character why don't you
run along and find a Unicorn? He plays the judge
in this video on the album cover, as well the
single Oh Yeah, run along now Walter and see if
you can't find a Unicorn?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just him and Billy Joel, but he's still the
judge in that one.
Speaker 2: Nice, but this is great, Like Billy Joel's on trial,
is he or is he not? Keeping the fake you know, judge,
they say justice is blind.
Speaker 3: I shore hope it ain't deaf, but.
Speaker 2: It's a big coin in the jukebox and starts to
play this song and sing it for the judge.
Speaker 3: John Way think this one's very specific. It's an homage
to a particular song. Betty writes, clean Up Woman. It's
got a little bit of a British rock sound to it.
But if you play that song, Betty writes, clean Up Woman,
I mean the start, the kind of beat you get
at the start of this one and at the start
of that song mirror images of each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the other really kind of cool thing about this
one is I almost like, in my in my mind,
in my head canon, I treat this one as a
little bit of kind of a personal prequel to We
Didn't Start the Fire. You know, let's let's make a
superhero analogy. You've got your Iron Man, your Thor, your
Captain America. They're gonna go off and they're gonna handle
stuff like Thanos, like they're going to handle your your
galaxy threatening villains. And then you've got Spider Man, and
spider Man is usually like your street level hero. You've
got your Spider Man your Daredevil. They're handling stuff on
the streets, they're not fighting aliens. I see this one
as keeping the faith is kind of like the very
personal let me walk you through my childhood, my teenage years.
Let me kind of give you the timeline of what
it was like to grow up Billy Joel. Then if
you take this one and you play we Didn't Start
the Fire next, it's almost like you're zooming out onto
like a global layer at that point, and you're saying, like, Okay,
this is what it like it was like personally to
be Billy Joel. But here's like what the rest of
the world was going through while I was also growing
up and through all these years. So I kind of
sometimes will treat this one as if it's like a
prequel to We Didn't Start the Fire.
Speaker 1: Well, that that's really cool?
Speaker 4: Agree? I like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: By the way, the red herd girl in the back
of a Chevrolet is a real person. So in the video,
she's played by Christy Briekley, and her hair is like
spray painted red. It looks terrible, But this was when
he first started playing live. He was playing and he
locked eyes with this beautiful redhead and he started to
realize the power of rock and roll. Well, they ended
up dating, and more than dating, he made it with
that girl in the back of a Chevrolet, And when
she went to break up with him to go to college,
he's like, you can't break up with me. We've had sex,
and she's like, so what. That's when he realized he
falls super easy for women. Yeah, he just can't help himself.
When he's with the woman, he falls head out of
her heels. And that's why a lot of his songs
are just would be love songs. He loves women.
Speaker 1: All he can think of is Matthew McConaughey and Days
to Confused. I love those redheads, Love those red heads. Man.
Speaker 2: By the way, that girl's name was Patty Lee Beridge.
Speaker 3: He's a little bit like doctor Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park.
He's he's always looking for the future. Ex missus Joel.
Speaker 2: All right, well, that completes the album An Innocent Man.
Speaker 1: Now we have to do Oh my god, final judgment time, Johnny,
Are you able to do final Judgment with us?
Speaker 2: Lionel Richie versus Billy Joel?
Speaker 1: I mean, do we even need to ask?
Speaker 3: You don't need to ask my final judgment will be
and nothing against him at all. But my final judgment
is Lionel.
Speaker 1: Who okay, d okay. So, as I mentioned, Billy Joel
was huge part of my childhood growing up. I mean
I literally have a music book of his downstairs that
I have learned to play songs of his huge, huge factor. However,
Can't Slow Down songs are so good and every single
song is so good on that album. Even though I
love a lot of the songs on Innocent Man, of
all of Billy Joel's songs, unlike John here, Innocent Man
is on the lower side of my favorite Billy Joel songs.
I like a lot of them, but they're not my
favorite Billy Joel songs. For the complete catalog, it is
mister Joel every day, all day, no question about it.
But album to album, which is what we're talking about here,
Innocent Man, Can't Slow Down.
Speaker 4: Can't Slow Down was too.
Speaker 1: Much of a powerhouse wow, too much of a big
hitter for me in that time. I'm given the nod
to Can't Slow Down the mount of Richie, which means
you gotta be the tiebreaker, my friend.
Speaker 2: All right, So John voted Innocent Man. You voted Can't
Slow Down. I loved both. I grew up with both.
These were both owned by my parents. They spun them
all the time. It was just something I was around.
But for me, the songs on An Innocent Man are
a little more rock and roll and a little less country.
So I'm going to cast my vote with the wonderful
seven singles out of ten Billy Joel album An Innocent Man,
Spike the Football An Innocent Man, although I still love
cancel it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I can't falter you, guys. I love the
Piano Man. But yeah, guys, Shirley fans, tell us what
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Speaker 4: Nineties and beyond.
Speaker 1: John, thank you so much for coming and joining us
on this adventure again. I can't wait till we start
doing podcasts full of Kryptonite again. Tell us what's coming
up for the thirty something movie podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, We've got the next few months or so,
or just there's so much. We're in ninety three right now,
since it's twenty twenty three at the time of this recording,
we're in ninety three. We've just got done doing Cliffhanger,
Groundhog Day. We've got Falling Down and Fugitive in the
month of March, and then you know, coming up in April,
Sleepless in Seattle. Gettysburg the one I'm really looking forward to, though,
I've been waiting for a while to talk about this one.
Coming in in May, we're doing Demolition Man. I have
such an unreasonable love of this movie when we started.
When we started the podcast and I asked our co
host Pat, I'm like, it's it's twenty fifteen, Pat, what
movie are you looking forward to? Batman? Pat, We're doing
that one in four years. I know, like there have
been moments where I was like, what am I looking
forward to? As we're doing this show Rocketeer. All right,
Rocketeers coming in ninety one, So I got a little
bit of time to wait. What was the next one
after that? I'm like, demolition Man, all right, that's two
years away. Well we're there, so that's probably what I'm
looking forward to is getting a demolition Man in May.
Speaker 2: John, thanks so much for being with us.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, We enjoy you, and you've been a
mentor for us, So thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we as as I we might have been
off Mike when we were talking about it, but you
guys got many many shout outs in our groundhog Day episode.
We were basically saying, we're doing a quick flyby of
groundhog Day, but if you want to hear in depth stuff,
you got to go over and listen to the Shirley
Podcast guys. Because that and and I was like, I
got a really clever idea. I'm going to restart our
show like three or four times just to kind of
be funny. And then your show came out and I
was like, God, bless it, they already did it.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you man, We appreciate that. What do we
got coming up next next week?
Speaker 2: We've got raising Arizona versus the Big Labouski.
Speaker 4: Oh yay, I'm.
Speaker 3: That is the only way I can respond to that.
In in the matrix, when you have the one female character,
I'm blanking out on what her name was, but right
before they unplug her, she just looks and go not
like this, not like this. That's oh that is that
is cruel. That is just cruel to pit those against
each other. You know, you've you've got the dude Abides versus.
What we're trying to say is we felt the institution
no longer had anything to offer us. I don't know
how to pick between those two.
Speaker 2: I know, right big Lebaski is hitting his twenty fifth anniversary.
I know, come back next week to hear that matchup
and go over to thirty something and catch their stuff
and then also join us on podcasts full of Kryptite.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, we're looking forward to that one coming back.
I think it's gonna be a great season of Superman
and Lows. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: I want to go binge watch the last two seasons,
listen to our podcast, and you'll be done.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: We will see you, John, We'll see you down the
road and everybody else will see you next week.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, just him and Billy Joel, but he's
still the judge in that one.
Speaker 2: Nice you're a judge, I am.
Speaker 1: Thank you for reminding me.