Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, And for this week of July fourteenth,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with Lost season three, episode six, Not
Speaker 1: in Portland, in which we learn how Juliet got to
Speaker 1: the island, or at least what her life was like before.
Speaker 1: We see Ethan again in flashbacks, say Ethan, just as.
Speaker 3: Creepy is that man? I'm so creepy.
Speaker 1: I saw him like right at the very beginning. She
Speaker 1: walks by him in a hallway and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that guy. Who is that? I realized who
Speaker 1: it was and my husband was like, no, that wasn't him.
Speaker 1: I said, rewind it, watch it again.
Speaker 3: He's like yeah, oh yeah, indeed.
Speaker 1: But well, and Sawyer and Kate have jungle adventures that
Speaker 1: made me think maybe I was accidentally watching Duster. Lots
Speaker 1: of shooting and running around. There's no cars, but yes,
Speaker 1: it had that kind of vibe. Yeah, and there is
Speaker 1: a surprisingly satisfying if sudden death by bus.
Speaker 3: Yes, there sure is. And we meet Nestor Carbonel Yeah,
Speaker 3: and also a baby rob mcleheney. How do you say
Speaker 3: his name? Mcalhenny? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who was he playing?
Speaker 3: He was the guard that they was.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought I recognized that guy.
Speaker 3: I had to look on him who it was because
Speaker 3: I was like, I definitely recognize him. Yeah, later to
Speaker 3: be the always Sonny and Philadelphia guy. But but yeah,
Speaker 3: he's the one who, as Sawyer said, they did the
Speaker 3: like Wookie prisoner trick on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah. And then Nestor Carbonell, who I imagine is
Speaker 3: going to be back.
Speaker 1: Yes, he is.
Speaker 3: Playing they shadowy figure that recruited Juliet.
Speaker 1: He is a major recurring character in the mythology of
Speaker 1: all this, and it was nice to see him being,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody you apparently cannot say no to.
Speaker 3: He will cause a bus to.
Speaker 1: Can't get out of here unless my husband was like
Speaker 1: yd by a bus.
Speaker 3: Okay, we can read that twenty four hours later.
Speaker 1: Just so nicely done, because it's like I knew what
Speaker 1: was coming, and it's still even just just so sudden
Speaker 1: that guy though, that guy has had it coming. Ough gross, Yes,
Speaker 1: I never know I'd announced that. That actor's name Zelko Ivanuk,
Speaker 1: but he plays that sort of character so well.
Speaker 3: Yes, very very entertaining.
Speaker 2: So we're supposed to Okay, So Juliet's a fertility doctor
Speaker 2: and researcher of some kind, and she, you know, on
Speaker 2: the sly uses whatever drug she's developing, yeah, to help
Speaker 2: her sister get pregnant. Yes, but her sister like has
Speaker 2: cancer or something like what are we supposed.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, I don't remember or get all of that
Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean, obviously the head scarf is supposed
Speaker 1: to telegraph cancer, I would guess. And it seems like
Speaker 1: she doesn't have a partner because Juliette wants to bring
Speaker 1: her along to Portland, right, how yeah, because does the
Speaker 1: thing that she is giving her make it possible to
Speaker 1: get pregnant or does it impregnant? You I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember if we are invited to ask
Speaker 1: these questions or it's just if more will come of it.
Speaker 1: But at any rate, Juliette's not going to get to
Speaker 1: see what happens next because after the wid More home
Speaker 1: pregnancy test says positive, yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 3: This person seems to be the sister, you know, she
Speaker 3: seems to be like home bound, right, but yet she's
Speaker 3: in possession of the wain More pregnancy test everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just keep throwing that name in every now and then,
Speaker 1: just give us a chuckle. But yes, yeah, that all
Speaker 1: was very weird and probably just mumbo jumbo, yeah to
Speaker 1: get her.
Speaker 3: Well, it was just a misdirection of like, yes, whatever
Speaker 3: Juliet is injecting into her sister was supposed to be
Speaker 3: curing whatever disease she has. Oh no, it.
Speaker 1: Was yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Cash.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the surgical drama continues.
Speaker 3: That's right, Jack is then Hi, I'm awake.
Speaker 1: So amongst the other things that they don't have at
Speaker 1: this hospital, along with a crash cart, is an anesthesiologist. Yes, sufficient,
Speaker 1: but they do perform surgeries nonethe last, Yes, Ben's tough.
Speaker 3: M just hanging out down there, face down, in facing
Speaker 3: like the cradle situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah mm okay sure, and still directing the action from
Speaker 4: his compromised position.
Speaker 3: Right like his kidney's supposedly like bleeding out. And also
Speaker 3: he's no longer anesthetized.
Speaker 1: Okay, what He'll just have a little chat with Juliet. Right,
Speaker 1: I suppose we can start to see why she has
Speaker 1: been so unpleasant, right, I mean, squirrel, she is not
Speaker 1: only is she not in Portland, she is where the
Speaker 1: heck nobody knows, right, So you know, we didn't exactly
Speaker 1: see the transition from I suppose she got on a
Speaker 1: private plane and then it went out to.
Speaker 3: This island where they are obsessed with children and babies
Speaker 3: and fertility until they did need her from.
Speaker 1: That they did. But it does not seem like she
Speaker 1: has been flying her trade. It seems like she has
Speaker 1: just been making muffins. Yeah, we don't see her lap
Speaker 1: necessarily or who exactly is she treating. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of gals on this island that we've seen.
Speaker 3: Right, and we've seen very few children and right, babies
Speaker 3: except for Aaron, who is not part of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wanted she At one point she said
Speaker 1: how long she had been there? Was it three years?
Speaker 1: So perhaps things have changed over the three years, and
Speaker 1: we will I'm sure see that at some point. I
Speaker 1: don't remember, but you know, yeah, she's got issues, don't
Speaker 1: they all? They do? Indeed, poor Carl is going to
Speaker 1: have some serious issues to earning his brain back from
Speaker 1: jello from in that room and these.
Speaker 3: Like glasses that I guess for me, Yeah, like trying
Speaker 3: to make his eyes stay open or something.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think so, it's like a I know I've
Speaker 1: heard what is that sort of thing for? Is it
Speaker 1: for like programming somebody to do something? Or I guess
Speaker 1: brainwashing or something like that. Yeah, anyway, does not look fun.
Speaker 1: No parenting tip, Dad's you may really dislike your daughter's boyfriend,
Speaker 1: but if you do stuff like this, she's gonna resent you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna appreciate that. There's got to be a
Speaker 1: better way. Can't you just put him in a canoe
Speaker 1: and push him away from shore? You know, right, you
Speaker 1: don't need to turn his brain into jelly. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: tempting as that maybe, right, She's gonna find out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's going to be ticked.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not a way to develop a to develop
Speaker 3: or improve a relationship with your child. No, it's not
Speaker 3: going to work for you. No, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: do it. But you know, and yeah, I mean obviously
Speaker 3: this is all meant to be very confusing. But I mean,
Speaker 3: so Juliet's been there for three years, but that means
Speaker 3: I mean Alex has been there since she was a baby, right, yes,
Speaker 3: Like so Ben's been there a wild Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he said he's kih the island all his life,
Speaker 1: his whole life. So we will get there eventually. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a whole world of flashbacks to come, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the newcomers have been hogging all the limelight.
Speaker 1: But eventually we'll get everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nikki and Poe, Yeah, whether we need them or not,
Speaker 3: we will get their backstory.
Speaker 1: And we will get more of the same backstory of
Speaker 1: the people we know. But finally we will really.
Speaker 3: Hammer it.
Speaker 1: Alprid's is pretty trippy when we get there, but everybody eventually.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like there's a lot of there's a
Speaker 1: a great deal of the timeline of the others that
Speaker 1: is not currently filled in and it's hard to imagine
Speaker 1: what exactly, you know, because the sort of remnant ye
Speaker 1: thing they've got there now does not seem like anything
Speaker 1: that would have been represent you know, would be sending
Speaker 1: representatives out to recruit people and bring them back. So
Speaker 1: there must have been a breakdown at some point, I suppose,
Speaker 1: we imagine, right, and that have left us with this
Speaker 1: motley crew.
Speaker 3: Yes, and we didn't didn't get any of like here's
Speaker 3: what's happening back on no Way Beach.
Speaker 1: Last Pedia mentioned that this is the first episode that
Speaker 1: has taken place entirely off of our our usual island. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we did not see They're off having adventures with
Speaker 1: Nicky and Pallo and using the toilet at the new
Speaker 1: Hatch and.
Speaker 3: Collecting coconuts and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Right right, you know, Desmond seeing the future and recommending
Speaker 1: things that they could change, and then they're doing it.
Speaker 3: So lot reading the the walking stick of mister Echo
Speaker 3: that told him to like look north or something, so
Speaker 3: he's like, okay, information, what else we had? Jack know,
Speaker 3: taking matters into his own hands as he is wont to.
Speaker 1: Do yeah, and Juliet calling his bluff about whether he'll
Speaker 1: really let somebody die on the operating right. I think
Speaker 1: she's right. I don't think you could. But he is
Speaker 1: right to not trust them to do.
Speaker 3: You know, because there's no way. It's like, okay, sure,
Speaker 3: here's you've done it, here's your boat, we'll see it by.
Speaker 1: Well they did. They did. Let Sawyer and Kate off
Speaker 1: the island.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Michael and.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. So and uh, Alex's boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they were like, yes, you can go
Speaker 3: if you take this guy, don't let him come.
Speaker 1: What are they going to do with that guy? I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember. If we ever see that guy again,
Speaker 1: he just wanders off into the jungle. He and Vincent
Speaker 1: have a nice uh right, about the same cognitive level.
Speaker 1: Poor Carl, Poor Carl. And what other parenting lessons can
Speaker 1: we get here? Parenting tips, the whole like call your
Speaker 1: bluff thing is yeah, something you might be able to
Speaker 1: employ it, but it's a risky move. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: Juliet does kind of a mom thing. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go take care of everything, right, just
Speaker 1: stay here, I'm gonna go. There's enough of this talking
Speaker 1: on the walkie talkie. I'm just gonna go help your friends.
Speaker 1: You do the surgery right, and so Jack goes well.
Speaker 3: And then he needs Danny as his nurse and Danny's
Speaker 3: not doing very well at that, right, is it Danny?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it was Danny because I think
Speaker 1: Julie Danny later.
Speaker 3: That's right. She did with Tom.
Speaker 1: Yes, Tom friendly.
Speaker 3: Doesn't do well with blood. Well, my friend, you're in
Speaker 3: the wrong place. Yeah, you're in the wrong show, I think.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Parenting tip is sometimes when things are getting very complicated
Speaker 1: and you know you don't know what to do, just
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna go do things. Yeah, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: do this. I'm gonna take care of it. You guys
Speaker 1: stay here and then just flee. If you can actually
Speaker 1: do that thing you go off to do, all the better.
Speaker 1: But even if you can't, just walk around.
Speaker 3: Like I'm out of here. You guys can try to
Speaker 3: work this out on your own. I know you won't
Speaker 3: be able to.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just need to split and then come back
Speaker 1: later saying it's all taken care of.
Speaker 3: Right, whether it is or not.
Speaker 1: To push them off on a very dicey looking boat
Speaker 1: and yeah, probably they'll make it. It's not that far.
Speaker 3: It's really not.
Speaker 1: I thought that was like a kayak or a canoe
Speaker 1: or something. And then all of a sudden they're putting
Speaker 1: up a saale. How is there a sale on that thing?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't I can say it just
Speaker 3: patically like knows how to use it. You know, she's
Speaker 3: like immediately working.
Speaker 1: My husband said that, You said, how did they know
Speaker 1: how to even do that? And I said, well, Kate's fugitive,
Speaker 1: she's very She's had to, you know, pick up a
Speaker 1: lot of and Sawyer's a con man, so he'll act
Speaker 1: like he knows what he's doing and we'll believe it.
Speaker 3: And sometimes that Actually.
Speaker 1: They're resourceful these too.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well parenting tip, let your kids experiment
Speaker 1: in all sorts of unsavory practices and then they'll pick
Speaker 1: up useful life skills. Yeah, you know, when you say
Speaker 1: don't hang out with those kids, maybe they'll learn how
Speaker 1: to put up a sail in a boat, or how
Speaker 1: to you know, survive in a jungle hand to hand warfare,
Speaker 1: and uh, those things may comes. You want them to
Speaker 1: be able to, uh to work them work things out
Speaker 1: for themselves in any circumstance.
Speaker 3: Even on an island.
Speaker 1: Oh well, maybe they could learn to be an aniseesiologist,
Speaker 1: you know, just to the last minute. Should should wonder
Speaker 1: so useful? I still I kept wondering whether Ben and
Speaker 1: Julia were working together to mind game Jack throughout all
Speaker 1: of this, or if they really are at odds. Right,
Speaker 1: they probably really are at odds, but it did seem
Speaker 1: like a possibility that.
Speaker 3: It is hard to tell.
Speaker 1: The whole love actually thing was a setup between the
Speaker 1: two of them to get him to do it.
Speaker 3: Between Ben and Julius, between.
Speaker 1: Ben and Julia, to get him to hate surgery, hate
Speaker 1: hyphen surgery, not hate doing surgery, but do surgery out
Speaker 1: of hate. And even I mean even that discussion they
Speaker 1: could have been talking about are they watching us? Is
Speaker 1: he watching us? Okay, yeah, look look really serious now,
Speaker 1: now go ahead and storm out of the room. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember, so it could go either way. But
Speaker 1: you know, parenting tip, Sometimes you have to pretend to
Speaker 1: be addressing a situation by having a very serious discussion
Speaker 1: with your spouse although you really don't care, or you
Speaker 1: really find it hilarious what your child is doing or whatever,
Speaker 1: so you just go someplace where you can be seen
Speaker 1: talking but not heard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't don't laugh.
Speaker 1: Don't yeah, laugh, laugh with your face away or very quietly.
Speaker 3: Because that'll give you away.
Speaker 1: Yes, but sometimes a serious conversation is important, but you
Speaker 1: don't have one in you, so you've got to fake it.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Well, we have all sorts of questions now right going.
Speaker 3: I don't think we'll be getting answers very promptly.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has those answers yet. I don't
Speaker 1: think they have been written. They are still in the
Speaker 1: business of throwing out questions, and we will get more
Speaker 1: of them, no doubt next Tuesday, when we will continue
Speaker 1: with season three, episode eight of Lost Flashes before Your Eyes,
Speaker 1: which is a Desmond flashback.
Speaker 3: I believe so, yes, because he is.
Speaker 1: The person currently having flashes before his eyes, right, so
Speaker 1: maybe he will be able to you will get flashes
Speaker 1: of things and be able to explain them to us. Yes, please,
Speaker 1: Fortunately was not there to tell the guy don't step
Speaker 1: out into the street.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a problem for you, bud.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, but that's okay. We're just as glad.
Speaker 3: Yes, although if that's what caused Julie.
Speaker 1: To be where, I don't know.
Speaker 3: If you careful what you wish for Julie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would you not be too freaked out
Speaker 1: to actually go get take this job that is now
Speaker 1: opened up to you by the fact that your eggs
Speaker 1: got hit by a bus, as you would previously wished
Speaker 1: in front of this guy who's recruiting you. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: might just say, you know what, Yeah, I's like to
Speaker 1: kind of think they get in badly for me. I'll
Speaker 1: just stay here, right. Oh well, but probably she didn't
Speaker 1: really have much choice or discretion in the matter. She's
Speaker 1: going there.
Speaker 3: Yes, we haven't gotten to the part where they explain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, surely they will, right right, they'll explain, they'll explain eventually. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: it could happen. But in the meantime, we'll see you
Speaker 1: back here tomorrow to discuss Duster. Thank you for listening.
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