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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of July fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>we are continuing with Lost season three, episode six, Not

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<v Speaker 1>in Portland, in which we learn how Juliet got to

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<v Speaker 1>the island, or at least what her life was like before.

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<v Speaker 1>We see Ethan again in flashbacks, say Ethan, just as.

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<v Speaker 3>Creepy is that man? I'm so creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him like right at the very beginning. She

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<v Speaker 1>walks by him in a hallway and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that guy. Who is that? I realized who

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<v Speaker 1>it was and my husband was like, no, that wasn't him.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, rewind it, watch it again.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like yeah, oh yeah, indeed.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, and Sawyer and Kate have jungle adventures that

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<v Speaker 1>made me think maybe I was accidentally watching Duster. Lots

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<v Speaker 1>of shooting and running around. There's no cars, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it had that kind of vibe. Yeah, and there is

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<v Speaker 1>a surprisingly satisfying if sudden death by bus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there sure is. And we meet Nestor Carbonel Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and also a baby rob mcleheney. How do you say

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<v Speaker 3>his name? Mcalhenny? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who was he playing?

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<v Speaker 3>He was the guard that they was.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I thought I recognized that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to look on him who it was because

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I definitely recognize him. Yeah, later to

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<v Speaker 3>be the always Sonny and Philadelphia guy. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's the one who, as Sawyer said, they did the

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<v Speaker 3>like Wookie prisoner trick on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah. And then Nestor Carbonell, who I imagine is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Playing they shadowy figure that recruited Juliet.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a major recurring character in the mythology of

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<v Speaker 1>all this, and it was nice to see him being,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody you apparently cannot say no to.

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<v Speaker 3>He will cause a bus to.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't get out of here unless my husband was like

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<v Speaker 1>yd by a bus.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we can read that twenty four hours later.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so nicely done, because it's like I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>was coming, and it's still even just just so sudden

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<v Speaker 1>that guy though, that guy has had it coming. Ough gross, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I never know I'd announced that. That actor's name Zelko Ivanuk,

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<v Speaker 1>but he plays that sort of character so well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, very very entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're supposed to Okay, So Juliet's a fertility doctor

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<v Speaker 2>and researcher of some kind, and she, you know, on

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<v Speaker 2>the sly uses whatever drug she's developing, yeah, to help

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<v Speaker 2>her sister get pregnant. Yes, but her sister like has

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<v Speaker 2>cancer or something like what are we supposed.

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<v Speaker 1>To Yeah, I don't remember or get all of that

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, I mean, obviously the head scarf is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to telegraph cancer, I would guess. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have a partner because Juliette wants to bring

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<v Speaker 1>her along to Portland, right, how yeah, because does the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that she is giving her make it possible to

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<v Speaker 1>get pregnant or does it impregnant? You I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember if we are invited to ask

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<v Speaker 1>these questions or it's just if more will come of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But at any rate, Juliette's not going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens next because after the wid More home

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<v Speaker 1>pregnancy test says positive, yes, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>This person seems to be the sister, you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be like home bound, right, but yet she's

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<v Speaker 3>in possession of the wain More pregnancy test everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just keep throwing that name in every now and then,

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<v Speaker 1>just give us a chuckle. But yes, yeah, that all

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<v Speaker 1>was very weird and probably just mumbo jumbo, yeah to

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it was just a misdirection of like, yes, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>curing whatever disease she has. Oh no, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, the surgical drama continues.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Jack is then Hi, I'm awake.

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<v Speaker 1>So amongst the other things that they don't have at

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<v Speaker 1>this hospital, along with a crash cart, is an anesthesiologist. Yes, sufficient,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do perform surgeries nonethe last, Yes, Ben's tough.

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<v Speaker 3>M just hanging out down there, face down, in facing

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<v Speaker 3>like the cradle situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah mm okay sure, and still directing the action from

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<v Speaker 4>his compromised position.

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<v Speaker 3>Right like his kidney's supposedly like bleeding out. And also

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<v Speaker 3>he's no longer anesthetized.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what He'll just have a little chat with Juliet. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose we can start to see why she has

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<v Speaker 1>been so unpleasant, right, I mean, squirrel, she is not

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<v Speaker 1>only is she not in Portland, she is where the

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<v Speaker 1>heck nobody knows, right, So you know, we didn't exactly

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<v Speaker 1>see the transition from I suppose she got on a

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<v Speaker 1>private plane and then it went out to.

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<v Speaker 3>This island where they are obsessed with children and babies

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<v Speaker 3>and fertility until they did need her from.

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<v Speaker 1>That they did. But it does not seem like she

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<v Speaker 1>has been flying her trade. It seems like she has

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<v Speaker 1>just been making muffins. Yeah, we don't see her lap

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily or who exactly is she treating. Not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of gals on this island that we've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and we've seen very few children and right, babies

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<v Speaker 3>except for Aaron, who is not part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I wanted she At one point she said

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<v Speaker 1>how long she had been there? Was it three years?

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<v Speaker 1>So perhaps things have changed over the three years, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will I'm sure see that at some point. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember, but you know, yeah, she's got issues, don't

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<v Speaker 1>they all? They do? Indeed, poor Carl is going to

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<v Speaker 1>have some serious issues to earning his brain back from

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<v Speaker 1>jello from in that room and these.

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<v Speaker 3>Like glasses that I guess for me, Yeah, like trying

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<v Speaker 3>to make his eyes stay open or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think so, it's like a I know I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard what is that sort of thing for? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>for like programming somebody to do something? Or I guess

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<v Speaker 1>brainwashing or something like that. Yeah, anyway, does not look fun.

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<v Speaker 1>No parenting tip, Dad's you may really dislike your daughter's boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you do stuff like this, she's gonna resent you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna appreciate that. There's got to be a

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<v Speaker 1>better way. Can't you just put him in a canoe

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<v Speaker 1>and push him away from shore? You know, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to turn his brain into jelly. Yeah, as

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<v Speaker 1>tempting as that maybe, right, She's gonna find out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to be ticked.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's not a way to develop a to develop

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<v Speaker 3>or improve a relationship with your child. No, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to work for you. No, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. But you know, and yeah, I mean obviously

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<v Speaker 3>this is all meant to be very confusing. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>so Juliet's been there for three years, but that means

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Alex has been there since she was a baby, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Like so Ben's been there a wild Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he said he's kih the island all his life,

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<v Speaker 1>his whole life. So we will get there eventually. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole world of flashbacks to come, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the newcomers have been hogging all the limelight.

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<v Speaker 1>But eventually we'll get everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Nikki and Poe, Yeah, whether we need them or not,

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<v Speaker 3>we will get their backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>And we will get more of the same backstory of

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<v Speaker 1>the people we know. But finally we will really.

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<v Speaker 3>Hammer it.

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<v Speaker 1>Alprid's is pretty trippy when we get there, but everybody eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's like there's a lot of there's a

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal of the timeline of the others that

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<v Speaker 1>is not currently filled in and it's hard to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly, you know, because the sort of remnant ye

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<v Speaker 1>thing they've got there now does not seem like anything

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been represent you know, would be sending

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<v Speaker 1>representatives out to recruit people and bring them back. So

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<v Speaker 1>there must have been a breakdown at some point, I suppose,

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<v Speaker 1>we imagine, right, and that have left us with this

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<v Speaker 1>motley crew.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and we didn't didn't get any of like here's

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening back on no Way Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Last Pedia mentioned that this is the first episode that

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<v Speaker 1>has taken place entirely off of our our usual island. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we did not see They're off having adventures with

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<v Speaker 1>Nicky and Pallo and using the toilet at the new

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<v Speaker 1>Hatch and.

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<v Speaker 3>Collecting coconuts and that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, you know, Desmond seeing the future and recommending

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<v Speaker 1>things that they could change, and then they're doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>So lot reading the the walking stick of mister Echo

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<v Speaker 3>that told him to like look north or something, so

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, okay, information, what else we had? Jack know,

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<v Speaker 3>taking matters into his own hands as he is wont to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do yeah, and Juliet calling his bluff about whether he'll

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<v Speaker 1>really let somebody die on the operating right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she's right. I don't think you could. But he is

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<v Speaker 1>right to not trust them to do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, because there's no way. It's like, okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>here's you've done it, here's your boat, we'll see it by.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they did. They did. Let Sawyer and Kate off

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<v Speaker 1>the island.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Michael and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right. So and uh, Alex's boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure they were like, yes, you can go

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<v Speaker 3>if you take this guy, don't let him come.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they going to do with that guy? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember. If we ever see that guy again,

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<v Speaker 1>he just wanders off into the jungle. He and Vincent

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<v Speaker 1>have a nice uh right, about the same cognitive level.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor Carl, Poor Carl. And what other parenting lessons can

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<v Speaker 1>we get here? Parenting tips, the whole like call your

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<v Speaker 1>bluff thing is yeah, something you might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>employ it, but it's a risky move. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>Juliet does kind of a mom thing. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go take care of everything, right, just

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<v Speaker 1>stay here, I'm gonna go. There's enough of this talking

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<v Speaker 1>on the walkie talkie. I'm just gonna go help your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You do the surgery right, and so Jack goes well.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he needs Danny as his nurse and Danny's

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<v Speaker 3>not doing very well at that, right, is it Danny?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think it was Danny because I think

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Danny later.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. She did with Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Tom friendly.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't do well with blood. Well, my friend, you're in

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong place. Yeah, you're in the wrong show, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>But even if you can't, just walk around.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm out of here. You guys can try to

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just need to split and then come back

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<v Speaker 3>Right, whether it is or not.

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<v Speaker 1>To push them off on a very dicey looking boat

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't I can say it just

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<v Speaker 1>My husband said that, You said, how did they know

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<v Speaker 1>how to even do that? And I said, well, Kate's fugitive,

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<v Speaker 3>And sometimes that Actually.

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, well parenting tip, let your kids experiment

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<v Speaker 1>in all sorts of unsavory practices and then they'll pick

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<v Speaker 1>up useful life skills. Yeah, you know, when you say

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<v Speaker 1>don't hang out with those kids, maybe they'll learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, survive in a jungle hand to hand warfare,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, those things may comes. You want them to

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<v Speaker 3>Even on an island.

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just to the last minute. Should should wonder

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<v Speaker 1>so useful? I still I kept wondering whether Ben and

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<v Speaker 1>Julia were working together to mind game Jack throughout all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, or if they really are at odds. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they probably really are at odds, but it did seem

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<v Speaker 3>It is hard to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole love actually thing was a setup between the

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<v Speaker 3>Between Ben and Julius, between.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Julia, to get him to hate surgery, hate

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<v Speaker 1>hyphen surgery, not hate doing surgery, but do surgery out

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<v Speaker 1>of hate. And even I mean even that discussion they

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<v Speaker 1>could have been talking about are they watching us? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he watching us? Okay, yeah, look look really serious now,

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<v Speaker 1>now go ahead and storm out of the room. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, so it could go either way. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, parenting tip, Sometimes you have to pretend to

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<v Speaker 1>be addressing a situation by having a very serious discussion

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<v Speaker 1>with your spouse although you really don't care, or you

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<v Speaker 1>really find it hilarious what your child is doing or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just go someplace where you can be seen

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<v Speaker 1>talking but not heard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but don't don't laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't yeah, laugh, laugh with your face away or very quietly.

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<v Speaker 3>Because that'll give you away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but sometimes a serious conversation is important, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have one in you, so you've got to fake it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we have all sorts of questions now right going.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we'll be getting answers very promptly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody has those answers yet. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they have been written. They are still in the

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<v Speaker 1>business of throwing out questions, and we will get more

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<v Speaker 1>of them, no doubt next Tuesday, when we will continue

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<v Speaker 1>with season three, episode eight of Lost Flashes before Your Eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a Desmond flashback.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe so, yes, because he is.

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<v Speaker 1>The person currently having flashes before his eyes, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he will be able to you will get flashes

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<v Speaker 1>of things and be able to explain them to us. Yes, please,

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately was not there to tell the guy don't step

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<v Speaker 3>That's gonna be a problem for you, bud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yeah, but that's okay. We're just as glad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, although if that's what caused Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>To be where, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If you careful what you wish for Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I would you not be too freaked out

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<v Speaker 1>to actually go get take this job that is now

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<v Speaker 1>opened up to you by the fact that your eggs

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<v Speaker 1>got hit by a bus, as you would previously wished

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<v Speaker 1>in front of this guy who's recruiting you. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>might just say, you know what, Yeah, I's like to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of think they get in badly for me. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just stay here, right. Oh well, but probably she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have much choice or discretion in the matter. She's

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<v Speaker 1>going there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we haven't gotten to the part where they explain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, surely they will, right right, they'll explain, they'll explain eventually. Sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it could happen. But in the meantime, we'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>back here tomorrow to discuss Duster. Thank you for listening.

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