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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped up, didn't need advice, So you don't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We come running just as fast as we can. Shooter's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna help me come. This is the Troubleshooter Show. No,

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? We have a lot happening here. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I did post and I found out why

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<v Speaker 2>I posted yesterday an error without audio, But I did

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<v Speaker 2>post that segment that I condensed that was on the

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<v Speaker 2>show this week earlier, where an older woman was basically saved.

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<v Speaker 3>Her life was saved due to a neighbor calling the show.

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<v Speaker 2>The show then prompted our deputy to go out, and

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<v Speaker 2>Deputy Bow.

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<v Speaker 3>Went out and with the name, and then they called

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<v Speaker 3>nine to one one and had rescue go in.

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<v Speaker 2>Aurora police previously refused to go in several times, and

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<v Speaker 2>despite the neighbors concern and the relatives concern, and the

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<v Speaker 2>daughter's concern, and I remember saying on the show the

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<v Speaker 2>other day, boo on them, but rescue went in. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, Aurora Police at any time could have

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<v Speaker 2>called fire and rescue to go in, but they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why they didn't, But that video is

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<v Speaker 2>posted on our YouTube channel, Troubleshooter Network.

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<v Speaker 3>But Deputy d he went and talked to some people.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to say who you talked to, But

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<v Speaker 2>you talked to some insiders at the police station.

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<v Speaker 3>So what did you find out their limitations were? What

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<v Speaker 3>did you find out?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is before BA went out there. I called

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<v Speaker 4>a friend of mine who retired as a lieutenant from

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<v Speaker 4>the APD a couple of years ago, and asked him

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<v Speaker 4>what keywords dispatch would need to hear in order to

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<v Speaker 4>break and enter, and he said that there are no

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<v Speaker 4>such keywords. They in absence of exigence circumstances such as

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<v Speaker 4>seeing a body through the window, they would not enter

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<v Speaker 4>the unit because they are afraid of getting sued left

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<v Speaker 4>and right, including by the city attorney or the district

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<v Speaker 4>attorney themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would they be sued? I mean, then, why can emergency?

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<v Speaker 2>Why can I the the fire and rescue go in.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't ask him that because my focus was specifically

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<v Speaker 4>on the police response. But he is willing to come

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<v Speaker 4>back to the show and discuss the limitations on police

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<v Speaker 4>response to such calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but in essence, they can't just go into a

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<v Speaker 2>place unless they actually see something or maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Hear something exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not by laws, by their policy, which is limiting

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<v Speaker 4>their liability and exposure to lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, three h three seven one three talk or

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<v Speaker 2>as you see the number right here if you're watching

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube or streaming is three oh three Martino three

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<v Speaker 2>oh three six.

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<v Speaker 3>Two seven eight four six six.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank, he wants to talk about an issue with a

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<v Speaker 2>short in his car or in his jeep.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on? Frank?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Loo, Hi Frank, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 6>I bought a twenty sixteen Jeeps Renegade and it's had

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<v Speaker 6>wiring problems like a short in there since I bought it.

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<v Speaker 2>And wait, when did you buy it? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>When did you buy it?

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<v Speaker 6>A year and seven months ago? And this has been

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<v Speaker 6>going on since I bought it?

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<v Speaker 3>And what is the issue.

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<v Speaker 6>The issue is every time that every time the water

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<v Speaker 6>gets the rains or snow water gets in somewhere, it

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<v Speaker 6>it messes up all the the check engine light comes on,

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<v Speaker 6>other lights on, the cluster comes on. And now it

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<v Speaker 6>came to the point where rain the other day when

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<v Speaker 6>I was Mamar Colorado visiting.

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<v Speaker 5>At rained real bad.

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<v Speaker 6>The next day it would have start, and then it

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<v Speaker 6>finally started a couple of times, a couple of tries,

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<v Speaker 6>and I just put a new battery in it and

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<v Speaker 6>finally started. And then after I started it, it wouldn't give.

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't There's no there's no RPMs in the motor.

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<v Speaker 6>You give us some gases. It's just is just idling.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, We're going to get someone on who

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<v Speaker 2>is an electrical expert. Sheridan Auto Tech has an electrical division,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's see if we can describe this to him

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<v Speaker 2>and get some answers. So you hold on, Frankie came

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<v Speaker 2>to the right place the Troubleshooter Show. Hold on three

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<v Speaker 2>oh three seven one three talk seven one three eight

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<v Speaker 2>two five five. Now Oscar says he has a follow

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<v Speaker 2>up from two weeks ago. Oscar not sure what is

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<v Speaker 2>going on, but let me I'll find your original call.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, as.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking, so Oscar, spill the beans.

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<v Speaker 3>Brother.

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<v Speaker 7>Two weeks ago, we had a couple of people on

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<v Speaker 7>the radio with me and they did a boat sail

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<v Speaker 7>that I thought was a scam, and we worked through it.

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<v Speaker 7>At the end of the radio call, they were willing

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<v Speaker 7>to just give me the title and it was all

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<v Speaker 7>done and.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I remember, wait, wait, I remember something about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find it. Did you use the name

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar when you called in?

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<v Speaker 7>I used James, but Oscar's my legal name, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, yeah, that man. That happens so much with people.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't find the damn problem. But okay, I'm looking,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I remember them saying, because of all the

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<v Speaker 2>problems you were having, they were going to allow you

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<v Speaker 2>to simply keep the They were going to sign it

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<v Speaker 2>over to you and you didn't have to pay it off.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that's what they said, and we waited two weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>I reached out to them to say, now, now.

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<v Speaker 2>Who handled that? What deputy handled that for? I still

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<v Speaker 2>can't find that dang call. Do you remember the date

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<v Speaker 2>you called?

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<v Speaker 7>Approximately approximately two weeks ago on a Monday is what

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<v Speaker 7>I'm thinking of, Monday or two?

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<v Speaker 2>And who handled the problem?

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<v Speaker 8>It was you, But I can't remember the deputy's name,

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<v Speaker 8>to be honest, because my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Was okay, okay, I'm sorry to lay all that on you.

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<v Speaker 2>I just trying to find so because why I had

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<v Speaker 2>to find it and then call them back. So what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they ghost you or what? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>What happened?

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<v Speaker 8>They stopped, They wouldn't answer for like three days, and.

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<v Speaker 7>Then when they sent me a thing, they just said

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<v Speaker 7>they'd rather deal with it in small claims court.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, So where are they locate? Where are they located?

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<v Speaker 7>Denver?

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<v Speaker 2>Denver, Colorado's why did they lie to us about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand it. What kind of boat was that?

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<v Speaker 7>It was a pond tune boat?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the name of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm trying to find find anything to do

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<v Speaker 2>with searching here so I can find the dang thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just remember, weren't they even on the show

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<v Speaker 2>with us?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, they call I messaged them and said we were

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<v Speaker 8>on the show, and they called in. Yes, yes, we

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<v Speaker 8>resolved everything. And then now they decided to change their

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<v Speaker 8>mind and they want to go to small claims court again.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's just that's that's why I thought it was

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<v Speaker 8>a scam.

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<v Speaker 7>They weren't honest from the beginning, and as you can see,

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<v Speaker 7>they're not honest.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to find dang it. I just I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to find my what I'm trying to find my my deputies.

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<v Speaker 2>Doc. Do you recall this as a Kachina, do you

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<v Speaker 2>recall it that we can't do? Yes, oh, thank you, dear.

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<v Speaker 9>I believe it.

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<v Speaker 10>Was assigned deputy Chopper.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's out of the country right now, but that

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<v Speaker 2>helps me search it, okay.

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<v Speaker 10>And and also I can tell you that we definitely

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<v Speaker 10>did have the owners on of yeah, and they came

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<v Speaker 10>on the air and they were very forthright and said

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<v Speaker 10>that they were going to resolve this. So I remember

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<v Speaker 10>me not sure what's going on, but it was definitely

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<v Speaker 10>about two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, And so we're gonna have to get up.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to call them back. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>hate to do this to you, but because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>find my notes just this second, I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>at least do me number.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you off the air, give us that information. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>call him back. Kachina. I mean, they did say in

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<v Speaker 2>front of God and everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they said they would just sign it.

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<v Speaker 2>Over to them. Now why and by the way, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>use it. You can use that in court that they

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<v Speaker 2>prompt not that they did a contract with you, but

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems weird that they would do that.

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<v Speaker 10>You can definitely look up the episode and use that

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<v Speaker 10>in court for sure.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and that's what I plan to do for sure,

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<v Speaker 11>because it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not an ad No, this was as as

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<v Speaker 2>tech was another one. Never mind, that was a different guy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well listen, hold on, Okay, we'll come right back to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Toll Martinez.

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<v Speaker 2>Three all three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 2>A two five five. We're going to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>them on the air and see what's going on, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>and Deputy Choppers on vacation for a while, so, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think he signs into YouTube, so he might have

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<v Speaker 2>some some uh information for oh there he is, Chopper. Chopper,

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<v Speaker 2>if you you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Listening, I know you are.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could help us here, bro and give us

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of clues so I can search that problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I just even if you have the exact date he called,

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't find it right now, but we'll look

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<v Speaker 2>it up. You see that we run this place really organized,

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<v Speaker 2>and we try to keep track of all these problems.

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<v Speaker 3>So I apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>Three all three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 2>two five five. I mean, listen, We've recovered hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars literally in cash merchandise exchanges refunds and services.

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<v Speaker 2>So we also have an ex where Kevin Kalkin we'll

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<v Speaker 2>bring on right after the break. Okay, so it's time

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you about water Pros, the best water systems.

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<v Speaker 2>The lowest price is right now. It's the most screaming

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<v Speaker 2>deal ever. I am serious. Triple filter reverse osmosis costs

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen hundred bucks, and that, by the way, is about

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<v Speaker 2>five times cheaper than anywhere else. This is at the

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen sing for the best drinking water, best coffee, best

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<v Speaker 2>just best water. Now softening costs about thirty four ninety

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<v Speaker 2>or for thirty five nine something like that, like thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred. If you add them all up, thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>forty five, that's like five grand for everything, right, or

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<v Speaker 2>a little more than five. So here's the deal. Water Pros,

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<v Speaker 2>even at that price is a deal. But they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do both of those for thirty one ninety five

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<v Speaker 2>or thirty two to ninety five.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, I think it's thirty one ninety five, but no matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Look you're almost getting one of them free and the

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<v Speaker 2>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 2>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 2>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter. Now listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this. I found the original call on this deal

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<v Speaker 2>where Neil mckintrick and Gretchen mckintrick sold a boat to Oscar.

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<v Speaker 2>Found it. I'm going to do details. We're on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone seeing why they're backing out. They gave their word,

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're backing out. I call that scum. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to Frank with his twenty sixteen Jeep renegade,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to bring up one of our auto experts,

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Calkin Sheridan Autotech dot com. In addition to pre

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<v Speaker 2>buying inspections on used cars and normal maintenance and repairs,

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<v Speaker 2>heavy in light and all of that that they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They do electrical issues, Kevin. Every time, every time that

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<v Speaker 2>jeep gets wet, whether it's snow or rain, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. And it doesn't he the lights flicker every

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<v Speaker 2>explain the symptoms when it gets wet.

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<v Speaker 3>Frank.

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<v Speaker 6>What it does is when he gets wet, a check

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<v Speaker 6>engine light, it's always a guarantee that always comes on.

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<v Speaker 6>Other lights on the clusters start showing up. It came

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<v Speaker 6>to the point where it didn't want it. It didn't

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<v Speaker 6>want to start, and it has a new battery, and

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<v Speaker 6>I did and then it did start a couple of

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<v Speaker 6>minutes later. And then there was no RPM in the

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<v Speaker 12>It was idling.

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<v Speaker 6>But you go give a gas and it wasn't even

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<v Speaker 6>doing nothing with the RPMs with the motor. It's just

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<v Speaker 6>like sitting there in idle. You put it in reverse

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<v Speaker 6>and then it had some power. But when this happens,

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<v Speaker 6>it happens when it rains and snows. But then when

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<v Speaker 6>it dries, the weather dry, when it's all hot and

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<v Speaker 6>everything dries, everything goes back to normal.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, have you had that? If you go through a

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yes, sir, the same thing.

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<v Speaker 11>Huh, okay, well, we definitely got some water intrusions somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so what happens, Well.

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<v Speaker 11>We got to find a water intrusion. So I'm sure

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<v Speaker 11>there's going to be corrosion, almost like a flood. Car

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<v Speaker 11>is going to leave signs behind it. Where the water.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you start?

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<v Speaker 2>Bro Uh have.

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<v Speaker 11>You had windshield done recently?

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<v Speaker 5>When I?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, when uh, there's a you know, check this out.

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<v Speaker 6>When I first bought the vehicle, whoever had it before

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<v Speaker 6>neglected to turn around and to do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 6>But right there on the driver's side, the window up

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<v Speaker 6>up on top of the windshield.

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<v Speaker 12>It was leaking water.

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<v Speaker 6>It was leaking water for the longest time. Even what

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<v Speaker 6>if the floor saw the floorboards and then they replaced

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<v Speaker 6>they took them back to the dealer, they replaced the

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<v Speaker 6>rubber around the wind windshield, and uh, that didn't help.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, Well, yeah, there's there's ways of fighting leaks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 11>We use the smoke machine where we can fill you

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<v Speaker 11>the whole vehicle with smoke and watch for the you know,

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<v Speaker 11>for it to be leaving the car. Basically the reverse

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<v Speaker 11>instead of putting water on the outside, look and see

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<v Speaker 11>where it comes in. We'll put the Oka mccarcy where

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<v Speaker 11>it comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh bro, that's cool. Hey, listen, where are you located, Frank?

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<v Speaker 6>I am located in Westminster.

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<v Speaker 11>You're not far no matter, now.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you would you?

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<v Speaker 12>Guys?

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<v Speaker 6>I have I do have a warranty with the vehicle

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<v Speaker 6>that I purchased.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh what's it called?

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<v Speaker 6>It is called.

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<v Speaker 12>No man, I believe remember this, Remember this.

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<v Speaker 2>Warranties. Warranties probably will not cover water intrusion or outside

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<v Speaker 2>outside uh influences, They just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can look at it.

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<v Speaker 6>I have Larry Miller one hundred and fourth. When all

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<v Speaker 6>when when this was all, you know, the check engine

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<v Speaker 6>light and all the fights on the clusters on. I

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<v Speaker 6>took us there and sat over there for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 12>And that was the only vehicle.

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<v Speaker 6>And I called and they said they're not done with it.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, I need to pick it up. I said,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the only vehicle. I'm walking back and forth to

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<v Speaker 6>the store and I'm getting up there in age where

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<v Speaker 6>I can't I can't be doing that. And so I

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<v Speaker 6>went down there and picked it up, and they charged

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<v Speaker 6>me almost three hundred dollars for one day of diagnostics

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<v Speaker 6>and they didn't even and then as dry, I said

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<v Speaker 6>it dry, the sun's out and dry. You check l

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<v Speaker 6>engine lights off and they think it's fine. I spent

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<v Speaker 6>almost three hundred dollars on nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, listen, man, Kevin will look at it

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<v Speaker 2>free real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll he'll give you some ideas.

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<v Speaker 11>Just just do a quick overview of it and look.

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<v Speaker 11>It may be very obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>On Colfax West of Wadsworth, Shardan Auto tech dot com

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<v Speaker 2>three oh three four five five seventy forty two. Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>always happy to have you on. And Frank, let us

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<v Speaker 2>know how it goes, bro please and and uh really, uh.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>We want we want to follow us because we'll keep

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<v Speaker 2>going until we get this done. Now I looked up

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<v Speaker 2>your original call. You are absolutely right. You did use

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<v Speaker 2>the name Oscar, by the way, which is good.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, we do have an update.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, I want to recap for those.

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<v Speaker 10>Because people join us in the journey.

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<v Speaker 2>People join us all the time, and I want to recap.

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<v Speaker 2>But basically, he bought a boat and they did say

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<v Speaker 2>that they would sign the boat over to him. He

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<v Speaker 2>bought a boat from Adam Neil mckintrick. His wife was

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<v Speaker 2>his Gretchen, and they're from Boulder, but he bought it

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<v Speaker 2>while they were in Florida. Is that right? So far?

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<v Speaker 2>I got the right call right? And she called in

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<v Speaker 2>after they heard about it, and they said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>they want to settle the matter. And they said, and

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<v Speaker 2>they said, they will release the title to and.

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<v Speaker 3>Forgive the balance to.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, what did you say?

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<v Speaker 3>They did wrong? And I want to recap that.

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<v Speaker 8>On a boat motor there's two separate parts, one called

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<v Speaker 8>a lower unit like a transmission, the other ones called

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<v Speaker 8>the motor, which is upper unit.

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<v Speaker 7>So what happened was they.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, oh, there was a hole in it or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and they didn't disclose it. They said there was an

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<v Speaker 2>oil leak, but you said there was way more trouble

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<v Speaker 2>than they disclosed. And technically you bought it as is though,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, But like I said, there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>weird things that went on with the sale and it

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<v Speaker 7>was just very odd. And that's why when they finally.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, but you bought it sight unseen? They said

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<v Speaker 2>it was leaking. They said they didn't know about the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I want to I want to clarify this because

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<v Speaker 2>I remember now this day and I have these notes

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<v Speaker 2>and and and here's what I want to say, because

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<v Speaker 2>you bought it as is, and they did say there

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<v Speaker 2>was some kind of oil leak, and you said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>way more than an oil leak. There was a hole.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said, we didn't know about the whole blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. But but technically this was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a hard one. But they offered to sign it over

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<v Speaker 2>to you on their own.

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<v Speaker 10>I do have an update about this.

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<v Speaker 3>And you called and talked to him. What did they say?

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<v Speaker 10>Did I did? He blamed everything on his wife, and

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<v Speaker 10>he said his.

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<v Speaker 2>Wife should have never offered to.

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<v Speaker 10>Basically give the money back, but now he just wants.

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<v Speaker 2>To there was no money back. The wife never offered

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<v Speaker 2>to give money back. The wife said they would simply

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<v Speaker 2>sign the title over right right exactly. And what did

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<v Speaker 2>he say? She didn't have authorization.

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<v Speaker 12>To do it.

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<v Speaker 10>And they're going to have to work it out in court.

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<v Speaker 10>That is what he's obligated to. But the funny part

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<v Speaker 10>is I had called him from three different numbers here

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<v Speaker 10>at the station, and he called me back on two

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<v Speaker 10>different ones and hung up as soon as I answered

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<v Speaker 10>the phone.

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<v Speaker 7>So he's hiding, yes, and he can't leave a message.

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<v Speaker 7>He's a crook. And that's what this whole thing he

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<v Speaker 7>lied about the boat. He tried to get me to

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<v Speaker 7>pay the full amount. The engine turned out to not

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<v Speaker 7>even be good. And it's supposed to be leaking in

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<v Speaker 7>the lower unit. The engine is the upper unit. It

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<v Speaker 7>turned out to be no good at all. The only

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<v Speaker 7>thing good on the boat was the leaking lower unit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking the small claims court and you can mention this

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<v Speaker 2>show and all of it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep, I have the recordings. Good good, I'll figure it

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<v Speaker 7>out in court. But that just tells you what type

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<v Speaker 7>of scumbag that you deal with sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean the man is The man is

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<v Speaker 2>a scumbag in my opinion, because you know, don't tell

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<v Speaker 2>me your wife didn't have authority, you chaven his pig bastard.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell me that. Crav I am so tired of people,

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<v Speaker 2>I am tired of lying, cheating, ripoffs. Now, having said that,

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<v Speaker 2>let me go back to the transaction. He did tell

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<v Speaker 2>you there was an oil league bro, Yes, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there was an oil league. You know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why you went through with the deal. Let me get

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<v Speaker 2>on your case for a minute. Here, Oscar, they told

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<v Speaker 2>you there was an oil league for all you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been anything. It could have been serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you go ahead and buy it?

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<v Speaker 8>Anyway, They had had a mechanic look at it, and

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<v Speaker 8>he said it was the lower seal And I made

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<v Speaker 8>a mistake.

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<v Speaker 7>Trust me, I learned my lessons.

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<v Speaker 2>But take him the small claims court and we'll follow

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<v Speaker 2>this one along for sure. Three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three talk seven one three eight two five five. Hey mckintrick,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a big fan of you either. I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of think a scumbag. In fact, I might put you

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<v Speaker 2>on the sleeze brigade anyway. By the way, someone who

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<v Speaker 2>is of character you would never Frank Ran the real

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<v Speaker 2>estate man dot com. Right now you can call him

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<v Speaker 2>for a free evaluation of your home. Interest states went

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<v Speaker 2>down a little, demand is up a little. He'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what your house will sell for free of charge,

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<v Speaker 2>one three talks seven one three eight two five five Martha,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? Martha?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Three oh three Martinos the number three oh three six

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<v Speaker 2>three h three seven to one three talk. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>just explain real quick, Martha. People can text me directly

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<v Speaker 2>to my private Google which is forwarded to my cell phone.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is thank you for not abusing it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I get all of your messages, and those who

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<v Speaker 2>ask questions can attest to the fact that I personally

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<v Speaker 2>answer them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my commitment.

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<v Speaker 2>the topics both personally and on the phone, on the

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<v Speaker 2>text or on the show seven four seven nine fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two eighty. And of course the other text is the

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<v Speaker 2>short code for iHeart, which is five seven seven three nine.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, what's going on, Martha?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes? I had leased out a airbnb for the twenty

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<v Speaker 13>third of this month.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you done? You leased it, meaning you're renting for

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty six You said.

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<v Speaker 13>No, I had rented it starting the twenty of this Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, suck. And so you were renting it? And what

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<v Speaker 3>was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Where was it?

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<v Speaker 13>It was on a wrappa hole in Liverpool?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? So why did you do a local airbnb.

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<v Speaker 13>Because I'm trying to find a house?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 13>Because I had sold mine?

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<v Speaker 3>And when were you gonna When were you going to

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<v Speaker 3>leave the B and B?

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<v Speaker 13>I was supposed to leave on the October twenty third.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were renting it for a whole month.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, I was going to rent it for a whole month.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, now let me ask you something. Are you using

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<v Speaker 3>the right term?

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<v Speaker 11>It?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it bed and breakfast or was it some other

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<v Speaker 2>kind of vacation home by owner?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, they haven't listed as a furnished Airbnb.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it?

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<v Speaker 3>Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened.

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<v Speaker 13>Me and my husband showed up on the twenty third

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<v Speaker 13>to to look at it and to rent it and

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<v Speaker 13>to stay there. And the gentleman seemed very nice at

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<v Speaker 13>first when he introduced himself. He came down and introduced

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<v Speaker 13>himself to us when we drove up.

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<v Speaker 2>And after that, now were you getting Was this a room?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you. Was this a room and a

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<v Speaker 2>home or was this a whole home? Or was this

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<v Speaker 2>an apartment? Tell me what it was.

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<v Speaker 13>This was a basement unit.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, got it? Bath okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So then what happened in his health?

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<v Speaker 14>Got it?

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<v Speaker 13>The gentleman was very nice at first, and then after

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<v Speaker 13>that he went upstairs to his home and I called Lisa,

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<v Speaker 13>which is the one that I'm supposed to be dealing

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<v Speaker 13>with when I rented the place, because I sent her

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<v Speaker 13>the money and the deposit, and she said, if you

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<v Speaker 13>have any issues, you need to call me and let

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<v Speaker 13>me know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the issue that you Why did you contact Lisa?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the issue?

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<v Speaker 13>So the issue was the heat in the basement was cold,

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<v Speaker 13>and I asked them to turn up the heat because

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<v Speaker 13>the heat is controlled by him upstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that yeah, that's gonna be difficult because basements are

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<v Speaker 2>always cooler.

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<v Speaker 3>That would that would probably smoke him out. But Martha,

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<v Speaker 3>when have you really needed heat this? Uh? Since the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty third? Really? I mean when have you needed heat?

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<v Speaker 13>I needed heat because I'm cold. I'm I'm usually a

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<v Speaker 13>cold person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is gonna this is gonna be a hard one.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did what did Lisa say?

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<v Speaker 13>She checked with him and he said that it was

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<v Speaker 13>seventy four upstairs and I it wasn't seventy four downstairs?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course not, of course not. That's that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>the most places, especially an older home.

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<v Speaker 3>How old is his home?

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<v Speaker 13>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Martha, I get it. I get what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. But but was it intolerable? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what was the temperature downstairs?

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<v Speaker 13>I was cold? I didn't I couldn't. I couldn't stand

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<v Speaker 13>the cold it was. It was the low seventy four

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<v Speaker 13>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I get it, I get it. So then what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't want you. I don't want you

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<v Speaker 2>to think that. I don't want you to think that

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't think you have a case. But in

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<v Speaker 2>some cases like this, it gets to be nitpicking. Could

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<v Speaker 2>be unless it was really untolerable and you don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what the temperature was, you just know you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like it. So theoretically, let's just say you wanted it

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<v Speaker 2>way warmer and it would and it would smoke him

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<v Speaker 2>out upstairs. I mean, at some point there's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be a reasonable this, And I'm not suggesting you're unreasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing that at all. So what happened? What's

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate today? You just did it a few days ago,

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<v Speaker 2>So what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you move out?

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<v Speaker 15>I did.

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<v Speaker 13>I didn't want to stay there because he made us

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<v Speaker 13>so uncomfortable when he came downstairs and knocked on the

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<v Speaker 13>knocked on the door, and he came in waving his

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<v Speaker 13>hands and goes, I mean here to check the temperature,

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<v Speaker 13>waving his hands around, and he goes, I don't know

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<v Speaker 13>what to tell you. It feels like seventy four and

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<v Speaker 13>hearing it feels it's seventy four upstairs. So if it's

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<v Speaker 13>if it's going to be a problem with the heat,

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<v Speaker 13>it's not going to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So can okay, are they keeping did you pay

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<v Speaker 2>the whole month up front. I did, okay, Uh, how

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<v Speaker 2>much would you pay.

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<v Speaker 13>Two one hundred plus thirteen hundred dollars deposit?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, and you paid two thousand, one hundred you.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, yeah, plus a deposit. How much was the deposit?

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<v Speaker 13>A thousand, three hundred?

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<v Speaker 5>Now is he.

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<v Speaker 3>Keeping everything including the deposit?

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<v Speaker 13>They told me that I couldn't get my deposit for

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<v Speaker 13>sixty days?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that in the contract?

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<v Speaker 13>That's what she's saying. Yeah, it's per contract, Martha.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to want to hear what I have

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I think you're going to lose it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you'll lose this case if you try to take

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<v Speaker 2>it to small games court. Maybe you want to try.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even have any proof what the temperature was.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you out of there now for good?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind calling Lisa. I don't mind having one

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<v Speaker 2>of our deputies. I'll have D or Doc. Who wants it?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Doc? Do you want to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Doc? Or what? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 16>I'll I have a question though.

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<v Speaker 17>They're giving her back her twenty one hundred and they're

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<v Speaker 17>going to give her her thirteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>No they're not, No, they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to give her back her deposit of thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred in sixty days, which is reasonable. They want, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what they do with the twenty one hundred for the rent.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying, she rented it and she's moving out on

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<v Speaker 2>her own accord. That's what they're saying. She moved in

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<v Speaker 2>two days ago. They're saying, tough, you moved out. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't kick you out. He just said it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to work, meaning he's not going to turn up the heat.

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<v Speaker 2>And I kind of don't blame him. I I really

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<v Speaker 2>believe that unless Martha had some temperature readings of some

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<v Speaker 2>kind and some proof. I'm just trying to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with her, she's going to lose this one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>people can easily exist in sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Degrees very comfortably, very very comfortable.

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<v Speaker 16>A space heater, Martha.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even a space heater, I mean, what about a sweater.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe, Martha. And again, I'm sorry, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want you to feel bad, but I can't believe it

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<v Speaker 2>was that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>What did your husband say about it?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, my husband's usually a hot person, and for him

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<v Speaker 13>being hot, and he indicated, yes, it was, it was cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>Than normal than.

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<v Speaker 11>Maybe it was.

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<v Speaker 3>What about a sweater?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a temporary lodging for a month. Am I?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm asking for feedback. I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I being unreasonable? And I usually ask my morons

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<v Speaker 2>and my texters? Am I being unreasonable? You don't. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to uh, you don't have to agree with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think. I don't think it was worth

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<v Speaker 2>leaving without at least getting some proof. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about you did what was called a constructive eviction.

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<v Speaker 2>You literally left, and now you're going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>get your money back. I'll bet you. In the agreement

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<v Speaker 2>it probably says there are no refunds. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but but Martha did Is was it that bad that

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<v Speaker 2>you had to leave?

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<v Speaker 14>Yes?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, okay, I'm not going to be treated.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that and treated like what he said. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>hot and I can't turn it up any further.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not going to work.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean when.

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<v Speaker 12>You no, I know that, and I I'm not disputing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, let's say you're one hundred correct. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>saying a sweater and maybe some sweatpants couldn't have helped,

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<v Speaker 2>at least temporarily for the month.

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<v Speaker 13>You probably could. Why should I have to change my

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<v Speaker 13>clothes just to be accommodating for myself?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Martha. We'll see it. Take it easy. I

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna call. I'm not even gonna call on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's totally in my opinion, that's totally unreasonable. I want opinions,

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<v Speaker 2>give me, give me texts, and give me calls.

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<v Speaker 3>That is totally unreasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, in life, come on, man, in life, there

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<v Speaker 2>are times things are not perfect. There are just times

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<v Speaker 2>things are not perfect, and your ride with it. For

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<v Speaker 2>God's sakes. If you pick battles each and every day

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<v Speaker 2>Come Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Tom Martino Your Troubleshooter three all three seven one

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the show, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here to help you solve problems, answer questions, take complaints,

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<v Speaker 3>And we're gonna go to the phones and help you.

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<v Speaker 2>So one thing I will do though, and and I

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<v Speaker 2>just got to clarify this. There are a lot you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I always talk about one hundreds of millions of aus

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<v Speaker 3>There are a good number of people we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Help but I believe we do help by telling them

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<v Speaker 2>we can't help, and why because I think it prevents

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<v Speaker 2>future problems and it also helps people listening. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to make that note.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now, Chris, what's going on? Hi? Chris?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi?

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<v Speaker 19>Tom? So, I don't know how much you know about it?

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<v Speaker 19>Are been told, so I'll try and do my bust to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's been summarized a little, A little something about

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<v Speaker 2>your daughter in sports?

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, Yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 19>My daughter attends of private school that specializes in learning disabilities.

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<v Speaker 19>She's been there since sixth grade. She's a freshman in

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<v Speaker 19>high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Now does she have learning disabilities?

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<v Speaker 5>She does?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And when you say a special school, it's not mainstreamed

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<v Speaker 2>with special program like an Individual Edge Occasional program what

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<v Speaker 2>they call an IEP. Or is it a separate school?

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<v Speaker 19>So it's a it's a separate school, So it's not

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<v Speaker 19>it's not affiliated with like Denver Public schools or Terry

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<v Speaker 19>Creek schools. Is it private supper private school?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Got it?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay?

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<v Speaker 19>And so she's an athlete. She loves sports and a

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<v Speaker 19>few years ago she really in particular got into running

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<v Speaker 19>track and now cross country, and she's probably the most

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<v Speaker 19>disciplined person I've ever met my life, super hard working

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<v Speaker 19>and that has really really paid off, and she's doing

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<v Speaker 19>very very well. At the beginning of her freshman year,

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<v Speaker 19>we looked into, in coordination with the school, trying to

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<v Speaker 19>have her participate at one of her one of the

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<v Speaker 19>public schools, because the school that she attends essentially doesn't

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<v Speaker 19>have a cross country team right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And many times, like I don't know about for private schools,

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<v Speaker 2>but for homeschooling, they allow sometimes those children to participate

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<v Speaker 2>in school sports.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, so absolutely so. The current team, the girls team,

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<v Speaker 19>consists of my daughter and another girl who is sporadically

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<v Speaker 19>there because she participates in another sport. So generally when

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<v Speaker 19>my daughter goes to practice, she's just running by herself.

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<v Speaker 5>So she goes, what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean when she goes to practice, is your girl going

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<v Speaker 2>to another school to participate.

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<v Speaker 19>No, So, the school that she's at right now, they

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<v Speaker 19>have a team that participates in two A three A. Well,

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<v Speaker 19>I won't say they have a team. They say they

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<v Speaker 19>have a team that participates in two A and three

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<v Speaker 19>A cross country, but they don't have enough girls to

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<v Speaker 19>actually feel the team. Oh, my daughter just participates individually.

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<v Speaker 19>She goes, so and she's doing very well.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say she participates individually, I'm still confused. Does

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<v Speaker 2>she participate individually at another school or in this school?

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<v Speaker 19>She doesn't. At her school she participates, so her school

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<v Speaker 19>goes to like a larger event. So like last weekend,

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<v Speaker 19>there were like twenty and.

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<v Speaker 2>Your daughter's the only one representing her school.

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<v Speaker 19>So at this particular meet, it was her and the

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<v Speaker 19>other girl who actually who went, So the two of

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<v Speaker 19>them went and represented they and so.

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<v Speaker 2>So you literally have people from all these other schools

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<v Speaker 2>and you have two girls from that school.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 19>And so in the specific event she ran last weekend,

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<v Speaker 19>she she individually, she won the event, but her she

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<v Speaker 19>doesn't have a team, so the team didn't get points

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<v Speaker 19>to win, but she won individually.

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<v Speaker 5>Is kind of how it goes.

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<v Speaker 19>And there were, you know, around twenty different schools there.

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<v Speaker 19>So we've been back and forth trying to get a

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<v Speaker 19>waiver with chessa a waiver for what for her to

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<v Speaker 19>participate at another school that actually does have a team.

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<v Speaker 19>And the idea is like, really, she just wants to

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<v Speaker 19>meet other girls and she wants to run with other

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<v Speaker 19>girls rather than like running by herself and practice and

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<v Speaker 19>then participating.

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<v Speaker 2>But now when you say a waiver, so you have

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<v Speaker 2>to have a waiver to do it. Let's say they

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<v Speaker 2>did not have a team. Would you be able to

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<v Speaker 2>just have or participate.

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<v Speaker 19>Or not what would normally happen, You would still need

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<v Speaker 19>some sort of waiver. They'd have to allow you to

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<v Speaker 19>do it. So they have I don't know what to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do other kids. Do other kids at private schools have

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<v Speaker 2>such waivers or are you trying to plow new ground.

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<v Speaker 19>So they other kids do get waivers. So if your

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<v Speaker 19>school does not have a specific sport, So for instance,

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<v Speaker 19>if you went to just a Denver public school and

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<v Speaker 19>you wanted to play water polo and your school doesn't

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<v Speaker 19>have a water polo team, but another school somewhere does,

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<v Speaker 19>you could get a waiver to participate at that school.

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<v Speaker 19>Theoretically they could give you that. So the problem that

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<v Speaker 19>we're kind of running into though, is when we reach

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<v Speaker 19>out to Chessa. Chessa then contacts the school my daughter attends,

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<v Speaker 19>and the well my daughter attend says, well, we do

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<v Speaker 19>have a team. But I just it's like I'm hitting

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<v Speaker 19>my head against the wall because I talked to them.

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<v Speaker 19>The athletic director. And I'm like, you don't have a team.

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<v Speaker 19>You have you know, my daughter and a part time girl,

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<v Speaker 19>so you have like one and a half participants.

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<v Speaker 5>And if my daughter wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>You who approves this special waiver the school you want

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<v Speaker 2>her to.

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<v Speaker 19>Go to, So Chasa has to get involved.

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<v Speaker 2>And then who is chasa?

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<v Speaker 19>Chassa is the governing body of all Colorado athletics and

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<v Speaker 19>they have all kinds of issues with is.

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<v Speaker 3>That chasaha SSA?

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<v Speaker 19>I think it is. So it's actually a private entity.

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<v Speaker 19>It sounds like it might would be a government entity,

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<v Speaker 19>but it's a private organization.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. So when you try to process, when

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<v Speaker 2>you try to process a waiver and it do you

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<v Speaker 2>have to as part of the waiver you have to

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<v Speaker 2>declare that they don't have a team at her school. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And because the school refuses to acknowledge that, you hit

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<v Speaker 2>a dead end.

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<v Speaker 19>I hit a dead end. And for two reasons this

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<v Speaker 19>she feels crazy. Like Number one, so she's she's attending

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<v Speaker 19>a school specifically because of a learning disability. And you know,

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<v Speaker 19>we've had meetings just in terms of her learning with

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<v Speaker 19>Denver Public schools where Denver Public Schools say yeah, this

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<v Speaker 19>is the best place for her, absolutely, and now she's

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<v Speaker 19>attending a place that's the best place for her does

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<v Speaker 19>not have a full team, and then she's essentially.

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<v Speaker 3>Not I know you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying she's being penalized for having disabilities because she's

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<v Speaker 2>forced to go to that school and that school only

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<v Speaker 2>has two girls on the team. What I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know is this, So the requirement is to get on

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<v Speaker 2>another team. Is that the current school she or anyone

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<v Speaker 2>is at must not have a team?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that the rule for everyone?

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<v Speaker 19>So it is the rule for them, but it's a

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<v Speaker 19>little bit more nuanced than that, so they well, but.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, they're not singling out your daughter.

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00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>They're saying, no matter who applied to us or wanted

862
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 2>a waiver, if their school has a team, they can't

863
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 2>do it.

864
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 3>So that's a real simple answer, Chris.

865
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<v Speaker 2>In another situation, not involving your daughter, if there was

866
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.679
<v Speaker 2>a child who did not want to participate on their

867
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 2>team and wanted to go to another team, would they

868
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>be allowed if their current school had a team.

869
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 19>So I'm going to add one thing to that. It's

870
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:46.119
<v Speaker 19>it's pretty close to that.

871
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I know what you're going to add that her school

872
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really have a team. But please help me out.

873
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to parse through. This is the reason they're

874
00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 2>giving that she has a team, and that same rule

875
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 2>would be applied to anyone. Is that's a yes or no?

876
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 19>It would, But I want to add one. There's a distinct.

877
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 5>Just go ahead.

878
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.159
<v Speaker 19>What's the difference in JB and varsity? So if they

879
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 19>were to still say that they had a junior varsity team,

880
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 19>then there would be no issue. But because they say

881
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 19>they have a varsity team, which but they only have,

882
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.519
<v Speaker 19>you know, two students, which that still doesn't constitute a team.

883
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.079
<v Speaker 19>And then I'll explain why that doesn't constitute a team

884
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 19>as well.

885
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 2>At the school.

886
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:34.679
<v Speaker 19>Their size to participate, to have a team, to participate

887
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.119
<v Speaker 19>and field enough girls for a two A or three

888
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.400
<v Speaker 19>A school, you have to have five girls. They only

889
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 19>have two. If it were a larger school, you would

890
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 19>need seven girls if it were the largest schools. I

891
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.079
<v Speaker 19>get it to field a team. And so the idea

892
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.519
<v Speaker 19>that they continue to say that that they have a

893
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:53.519
<v Speaker 19>team just but.

894
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Why are they doing that? It seems to me the

895
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 2>school I don't think no, no, no, no, I wait, wait, wait,

896
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:01.639
<v Speaker 2>we can all agree. No one's going to say no

897
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 2>one's singling out your daughter saying we're going to make

898
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:06.199
<v Speaker 2>it difficult for her, right, I mean, this is just

899
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 2>red tape?

900
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

901
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:08.079
<v Speaker 2>It is?

902
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 19>It is just red tape.

903
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So why would the school then insist they have

904
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 2>a team if there's only one and a half girls.

905
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.960
<v Speaker 19>The only thing that I could think of is like

906
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.320
<v Speaker 19>thinking toward the future. If they so, they would have

907
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:28.239
<v Speaker 19>to change their their status to like a JV school,

908
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:32.079
<v Speaker 19>which a lot of a lot of independent or private

909
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 19>schools tend to do because they tend to not have

910
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 19>enough or have a lot of sciences at a high level.

911
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.599
<v Speaker 19>Why they are you know, sticking to this and like

912
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 19>I I mean, that's the only thing that I can

913
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 19>think of that they're looking that, like, oh, in the future,

914
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 19>perhaps will have enough.

915
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.360
<v Speaker 3>There are a couple of things. There are a couple

916
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 3>of ways to tackle this.

917
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:58.360
<v Speaker 2>First and foremost, I do believe you have a special case.

918
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I really believe it, and I really believe it is

919
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.960
<v Speaker 2>a case for discrimination the fact that she's falling into

920
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 2>this category. And I also believe Americans with Disabilities Act

921
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 2>would apply. If you got an attorney to file a lawsuit. Now,

922
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.639
<v Speaker 2>I hate litigation. I hate the idea, but I do

923
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 2>believe you would win, okay, because it's a clear distinction,

924
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 2>and you make the argument, well you're not saying, you know,

925
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.480
<v Speaker 2>they're calling it a team, but in essence, your daughter

926
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 2>is being discriminated against because she's with a school. And

927
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>by the way, is the school only for children with disabilities?

928
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.800
<v Speaker 19>So I want to say anyone theoretically could go there,

929
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.119
<v Speaker 19>but knowing the school as well, I mean, it is

930
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:44.000
<v Speaker 19>really just what is.

931
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:46.039
<v Speaker 3>The disability we're talking about?

932
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.920
<v Speaker 19>With a nonverbal learning disability and then very slow processing

933
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 19>which has been diagnosed from Are.

934
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Most of the kids there with disabilities or not?

935
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:56.880
<v Speaker 5>Yes? Yes?

936
00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

937
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Now are there any kids there that don't have learning disabilities?

938
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 19>So they label a lot of many of the students

939
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:09.840
<v Speaker 19>as like twice exceptional where you know, and they're diagnostic

940
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 19>certain things that they tend to score mo on and

941
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 19>certain things maybe even exceptionally high on.

942
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I got to know, all right, Next question,

943
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Next next question here, next question? Have you have you

944
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 2>consulted an attorney for disabilities?

945
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:26.639
<v Speaker 19>No?

946
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Now there is another way around this.

947
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.679
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<v Speaker 3>Eight two five five. Okay, Wow, this.

960
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Is a weird. This is a weird situation, and we're

961
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to put this in someone's hands to do

962
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:36.199
<v Speaker 2>some investigation.

963
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Chris. Another way around this.

964
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 2>There are things where there are individual educational plans where

965
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:51.519
<v Speaker 2>people have actually enrolled in one school, but the IEP

966
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:55.920
<v Speaker 2>makes it necessary for them to attend most of their classes,

967
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 2>if not all of them, at another school, but tech

968
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 2>they're enrolled not in that school.

969
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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever explore that?

970
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.000
<v Speaker 19>I have not explored that yet, but I can also

971
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:16.119
<v Speaker 19>imagine an issue that extends this a tiny bitch I wish.

972
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<v Speaker 19>I'm also kind of concerned about SAW. I actually worked

973
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:22.480
<v Speaker 19>at another private school, and we've considered my daughter went

974
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:26.119
<v Speaker 19>there through fifth grade, and she could possibly go here

975
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:30.079
<v Speaker 19>because it does offer like additional services that could help

976
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 19>support her. But CHESSA has another rule that I we're

977
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:35.920
<v Speaker 19>going to try and get over that if a student

978
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.800
<v Speaker 19>leaves one school, So this year, she participated in a

979
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:42.400
<v Speaker 19>cross country if she leaves her school and goes to

980
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 19>any other school, that she'd have to set out for

981
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 19>three hundred and sixty five days and not participate in

982
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:52.519
<v Speaker 19>that sport, which is another like draconian rule that CHESSA has.

983
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 3>You know what they're trying You know what they're trying

984
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 3>to prevent?

985
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 19>Right, I do? I do know?

986
00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Now tell me what they're trying to prevent them What

987
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:00.400
<v Speaker 3>do you think it is?

988
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.559
<v Speaker 19>They're trying to like creating super teams.

989
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:07.800
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right, You're you're wise. That's exactly they're trying

990
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 2>to keep people from manipulating so they don't have to move.

991
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.719
<v Speaker 3>They just have to create a super.

992
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:16.440
<v Speaker 19>Team even if they move.

993
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 2>This rule applause no what I mean is what I

994
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.480
<v Speaker 2>mean is they're trying to keep that from happening, that

995
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 2>people could sit where they want, have kids go to

996
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 2>another school, build.

997
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:29.039
<v Speaker 3>A super team.

998
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.840
<v Speaker 2>They're trying to I understand why they have the rule,

999
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't always apply. I get that, I get that,

1000
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 2>but but really I just don't understand why her current

1001
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 2>school is insisting they have a varsity team when they

1002
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:50.639
<v Speaker 2>do they.

1003
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Get funding for that? Do they is their funding for that? What?

1004
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:57.199
<v Speaker 3>What downside would there be for them not.

1005
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 19>Having They have a lot of sports that are purely

1006
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 19>junior varsity, and I don't know if it's a way

1007
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 19>to just like have an additional sport that they list

1008
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.079
<v Speaker 19>of being, you know, we have X amount of varsity sports.

1009
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:10.800
<v Speaker 19>I really don't know what.

1010
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.800
<v Speaker 2>The well have you ever asked them? Have you ever

1011
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:15.159
<v Speaker 2>asked them?

1012
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.719
<v Speaker 19>I mean, it seemed like the point that they were

1013
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:19.719
<v Speaker 19>getting at is they wanted to build a program over

1014
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:20.519
<v Speaker 19>and have.

1015
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 3>You Okay, but they didn't, but they didn't.

1016
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever asked them if they would consider dropping

1017
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the varsity designation for track?

1018
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.440
<v Speaker 19>I have and they said, so it's great, it's cross countries.

1019
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 19>This particular thing is cross country.

1020
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I have and yeah, they're.

1021
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:42.719
<v Speaker 19>They're not willing to do that. So we've had many

1022
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:43.960
<v Speaker 19>conversations because I did.

1023
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.360
<v Speaker 2>They say why they are not willing to do it.

1024
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:50.119
<v Speaker 19>I don't think I have a good reason why.

1025
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm going to ask that original question again.

1026
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to ask the original question again.

1027
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Are there other situations where a team where a school

1028
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:03.079
<v Speaker 2>does have a varsity team, but a player goes elsewhere?

1029
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:05.320
<v Speaker 19>So No, I don't.

1030
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:06.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

1031
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:10.199
<v Speaker 19>So if they are actually a varsity team, you know,

1032
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 19>say they were a varsity basketball team, the student would

1033
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.239
<v Speaker 19>not be able to get a waiver to go elsewhere.

1034
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:19.119
<v Speaker 19>The only thing I would imagine, though, like if you

1035
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.119
<v Speaker 19>had only four players on a varsity basketball.

1036
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:23.800
<v Speaker 2>No, I get it, I get it. There's not enough

1037
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.400
<v Speaker 2>to make there's not enough to make a team. Look

1038
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.119
<v Speaker 2>at you don't have to keep telling me you don't

1039
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 2>consider it a real team. I understand that the question

1040
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm asking is not whether it's a real team. But

1041
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 2>if a school declares it has a team, doesn't preclude

1042
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 2>them from playing elsewhere? The answer is yes, it does.

1043
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 2>In fact, I have someone texting me who is part

1044
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 2>of who is part of the Colorado High School activities.

1045
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>C it's it's c H SAA. Yes, And they told

1046
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:08.280
<v Speaker 2>me that this is normal. They don't say it's right,

1047
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:11.719
<v Speaker 2>they say it's normal. She has a team. She's required

1048
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:14.440
<v Speaker 2>to play at her team. Now you can get a

1049
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:18.800
<v Speaker 2>special waiver. But again, when you applied to this waiver,

1050
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.840
<v Speaker 2>did you tell them even though there is a team,

1051
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 2>there is only really one participant.

1052
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 19>Yes, yes, and elected the school. So they contacted the

1053
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 19>school and they talked to the athletic director, and the

1054
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:35.239
<v Speaker 19>athletic director, you know, reiterates that they have a team.

1055
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 19>So I'm just like going in a circle.

1056
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:41.800
<v Speaker 2>But does the athletic director say there are five kids

1057
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:44.119
<v Speaker 2>on the team, one kid, one and a half. What

1058
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 2>does the athletic director say.

1059
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.719
<v Speaker 19>I'm not part of that conversation. I don't know what

1060
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 19>he told them, But in our emails, like I've made

1061
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:57.039
<v Speaker 19>it clear to the person on Chassa's side that they

1062
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.239
<v Speaker 19>only have two girls on the team.

1063
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I want to recap this for people, and if they

1064
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 2>have suggestions, I want them to text me, and I'm

1065
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.320
<v Speaker 2>recapping it for one of our deputies. I'll probably give

1066
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 2>this a deputy d over here. Here's what it is.

1067
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:12.880
<v Speaker 2>His daughter has a disability. She goes to a small school.

1068
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 2>There's only two kids that participate in cross country, and

1069
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:21.159
<v Speaker 2>really only one the other girl comes sometimes. Because of that,

1070
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:25.840
<v Speaker 2>his daughter cannot participate on another school's team. If they

1071
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:28.760
<v Speaker 2>did not have a varsity team, she would be able

1072
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.400
<v Speaker 2>to participate, But the coach keeps saying they have a team.

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<v Speaker 3>When they really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And he would like to socialize his daughter with other

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<v Speaker 2>athletes and get her on a real team. That is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I believe that we should talk to the athletic

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<v Speaker 2>director at the school you're at. We should talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the Activities Commission Association.

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<v Speaker 3>We should talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, really, come on, this is just and Americans

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<v Speaker 2>with disabilities. We should probably contact someone, some attorney who

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<v Speaker 2>deals with the Americans. Don't we have an attorney, an

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<v Speaker 2>angel who deals with Americans with disabilities? Maybe just for housing,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but let's try to find one. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody listening, help us out. Chris, I'm gonna put you

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<v Speaker 2>on whole Deputy deal be getting a hold of you, Kachina,

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<v Speaker 2>get him the contact information. Three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Martino here three oh three seven one three talk seven

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<v Speaker 2>one three eight two five five Richard, what is going

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00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 2>on in your life? What's happening in Richard? Thank you doing?

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00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:52.800
<v Speaker 12>Tom a man?

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00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:53.840
<v Speaker 3>What's happening with you?

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00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:58.159
<v Speaker 12>You have a connection Tom doing good? Thank you? Then

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00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.280
<v Speaker 12>you have a connection with Ticketmaker.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Kachina, do we have an angel over a ticket Master?

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00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:09.199
<v Speaker 10>Suzanne would probably no better. I can certainly thought we did,

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00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 10>but anyway, I thought, we don't know if we still

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<v Speaker 10>have one.

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00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a list of our angel list?

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00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well we'll look, but it doesn't matter, Richard, we

1119
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 2>can still put someone on it.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on, man?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, a couple of months ago I bought some tickets

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00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:29.079
<v Speaker 12>to a concert, and about a month ago I got

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00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:35.920
<v Speaker 12>an email from Ticketmaster and the email basically said your

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00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:39.199
<v Speaker 12>your ticket transfer is on the way to tis some

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00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 12>random name, and so.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you buy them? Did you buy them through ticket Master?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes?

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<v Speaker 12>And so I pulled up my account a ticket Master

1130
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:54.880
<v Speaker 12>and all six of my tickets support transferred without my

1131
00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 12>authorization or or anything. And so I called right away

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<v Speaker 12>and put in.

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<v Speaker 2>A So somebody, somebody, what do they do hack or

1134
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:05.920
<v Speaker 2>to hack into your account or something?

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<v Speaker 12>I guess so I'm not big.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you something I don't know. In general,

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00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 2>when you buy tickets and Ticketmaster, can you have them

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<v Speaker 2>transferred if you want to other people? I mean, yeah,

1139
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:23.079
<v Speaker 2>that must be like a regular thing, right, Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm a little bit older and I'd rarely go to

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<v Speaker 12>any concerts, so I really don't buy anything on Ticketmaster.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, let me ask my I'll ask my girlfriend.

1143
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:36.280
<v Speaker 2>But in any case, uh, what happened then?

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<v Speaker 12>So anyway, so I called right away and put it

1145
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.880
<v Speaker 12>in a fraud report and they said they'd get back

1146
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:47.239
<v Speaker 12>to me within three to five days. Ten days later,

1147
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:50.559
<v Speaker 12>I called and, uh, check them up. I hadn't heard,

1148
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 12>and they told me to wait. So long story short,

1149
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:55.840
<v Speaker 12>I called a couple of times and both and two

1150
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:58.079
<v Speaker 12>or three times they told me just to wait and try.

1151
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.239
<v Speaker 12>They'd call me or email me. And then so I

1152
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:04.119
<v Speaker 12>followed up again today after not hearing from them. It's

1153
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:07.719
<v Speaker 12>spent about three weeks, and the person on phone today

1154
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 12>said that the case had been closed. Yeah, and so

1155
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:14.239
<v Speaker 12>I pulled up my account. It's still the same thing.

1156
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:16.800
<v Speaker 12>They're still transferred to somebody else and nobody ever contacted

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<v Speaker 12>me or any think.

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01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:20.159
<v Speaker 2>So okay, here's what I found out for my girlfriend.

1159
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Tickets purchased from Ticketmaster can be transferred to other people.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's two conditions. One you have to have an account.

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01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Two they have to have an account, they have to

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01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:39.559
<v Speaker 2>log in you have to log into your account and

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01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:41.239
<v Speaker 2>transfer it.

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01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 3>That's the only way it can be done.

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01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:50.119
<v Speaker 2>So there might be restrictions based on tickets if they're

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01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:54.039
<v Speaker 2>really VIP tickets and all that. Who are the tickets for.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it's for Alan Jackson and they are premium seats

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01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:01.000
<v Speaker 12>for it.

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<v Speaker 2>No premium seats. But it's not like a concert that

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01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:05.039
<v Speaker 2>people are dying to go to.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh no, I mean it's I don't it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's not the same as a tailor swift

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01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:16.519
<v Speaker 2>ticket or something. So uh no, okay, So here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone hacked into your account. Do you have a two

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01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:24.559
<v Speaker 2>party verification or or a second or whatever they call it.

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01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you have where they text or email you?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 12>Not, I don't think so. They when I when I

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01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:33.960
<v Speaker 12>call in, they text me.

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01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:38.960
<v Speaker 2>But that's wait wait wait when you when you log

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01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.760
<v Speaker 2>into your account or do you you do log in,

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01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:43.760
<v Speaker 2>they don't text you an nothing.

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01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 12>No.

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01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:50.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, we got a problem here. This is happening

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01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people. How the hell did they

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01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:55.119
<v Speaker 2>get your log in information?

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<v Speaker 12>I have no idea. And you know important part of

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<v Speaker 12>the problem too, is well, the big problem is the

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01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:07.920
<v Speaker 12>fraud department. You know, never contacting me and just close

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01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:09.800
<v Speaker 12>the case with doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 19>Is your password for the ticket Master account the same

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01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:14.280
<v Speaker 19>password you would use elsewhere?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, who did they the guy that they transferred to,

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01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:23.840
<v Speaker 2>the woman who do they transfer to?

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01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Let's let's try to find this.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I've gotten an email address which is b hold

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<v Speaker 12>on No, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not on the air.

1201
01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:34.599
<v Speaker 3>We might do it off the air.

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<v Speaker 2>You have somebody's email? Did you email that person?

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01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:42.400
<v Speaker 12>No, this is just from the email I got from Ticketmaster.

1204
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:46.320
<v Speaker 12>It has their name and their email address of.

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01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:50.119
<v Speaker 2>The person of the person who now has your tickets.

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01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:54.079
<v Speaker 12>Yes, and it's definitely a scam email.

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01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, what is the email? What the hell?

1208
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:00.039
<v Speaker 2>What is it?

1209
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:05.440
<v Speaker 12>And d w C six six five six six at

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<v Speaker 12>gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you try emailing it? No, d w C d

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<v Speaker 2>w C six six five sixty six yep at Gmail,

1213
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:25.760
<v Speaker 2>So they they may have just opened up a temporary

1214
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 2>email to do this. Do you have the person's name

1215
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:30.000
<v Speaker 2>they were transferred to.

1216
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:36.960
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it says just Block j I. S h l o. P.

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01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Wait, that's the first name, j Shlop.

1218
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 12>Yeah. Well that's the first and last name.

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01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, the first name is just j I. S.

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01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.440
<v Speaker 3>H Yeah, who the hell? And what's the last name?

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<v Speaker 5>Block?

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01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:55.880
<v Speaker 19>L O P that?

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01:03:56.440 --> 01:03:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Come on, bro, is there such person?

1224
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Go on face, let's come on people, let's go. Let's

1225
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:04.440
<v Speaker 2>go search for these people. I mean, is there a

1226
01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:10.599
<v Speaker 2>such person? No, just launches. No, No, I don't see anything,

1227
01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:14.000
<v Speaker 2>is uh man?

1228
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<v Speaker 3>They even probably faked the name. I don't know. This

1229
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:22.079
<v Speaker 3>is crazy shop.

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<v Speaker 12>That's why it's crazy. I think the fraud department justosed,

1231
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:27.960
<v Speaker 12>didn't do anything, just closing.

1232
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Well did you call him back and say don't close it?

1233
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:32.000
<v Speaker 12>Yeah?

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01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:32.880
<v Speaker 5>I called him back.

1235
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:36.559
<v Speaker 12>And today, well today I'm talking to and put in

1236
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:37.480
<v Speaker 12>another request.

1237
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<v Speaker 2>But and is this a concert in Denver?

1238
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:43.440
<v Speaker 12>No, it's in Oklahoma.

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01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh you were going to travel to see Alan Jackson?

1240
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Are you sure it's not good? Josh? Is it just

1241
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:56.320
<v Speaker 2>or is it? There are a lot of Josh lops.

1242
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<v Speaker 12>No, this is just Jay I agent, maybe by mistake

1243
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 12>lop and uh and it's Alan Jackson.

1244
01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:12.960
<v Speaker 2>And I can't believe that ticketmaster won't do anything about this. Listen,

1245
01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:19.760
<v Speaker 2>uh b bow, Deputy bus, Let's call Ticketmaster and find

1246
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.320
<v Speaker 2>out what There's got to be somebody a ticketmaster that'll

1247
01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:25.800
<v Speaker 2>do something about this. Okay, this is weird we have

1248
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:29.400
<v Speaker 2>hold on. Richard, Deputy Bowl will talk to you. We

1249
01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:31.599
<v Speaker 2>got more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show. Three O

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<v Speaker 2>three seven to one three talk if you need insurance

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<v Speaker 3>Three h three nine nine six nine thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 2>In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

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<v Speaker 2>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three all

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<v Speaker 2>Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Hi Tom Martino, you're Troubleshooter three all three seven one

1265
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:27.760
<v Speaker 2>three talks.

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<v Speaker 3>So this scam is really bad, folks, really bad.

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01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:37.039
<v Speaker 2>So it is a ticketmaster scam where people are well

1268
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:40.199
<v Speaker 2>the ticketmaster doesn't perpetrate the scam. But people are hacking

1269
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:45.000
<v Speaker 2>into accounts and they are stealing the tickets. They're basically

1270
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:50.719
<v Speaker 2>transferring into a to themselves. Obviously this name isn't real

1271
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:57.800
<v Speaker 2>jish Lop and the email address is undeliverable, and uh

1272
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:01.159
<v Speaker 2>so you need what are they call that? I call

1273
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it second party verification, but it's not. It's called I

1274
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's called two that's what it is. Two

1275
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:11.599
<v Speaker 2>factor verification. So when you log into something, they send

1276
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:13.679
<v Speaker 2>you the OTP or they send you a code or

1277
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:17.559
<v Speaker 2>a text or an email or something in addition to.

1278
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:20.079
<v Speaker 3>Just you logging in.

1279
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Now the the the other.

1280
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Thing people are doing.

1281
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:28.920
<v Speaker 2>And Apple does this, and this is what I love biometrics.

1282
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I think biometrics should be everything, absolutely everything. A fingerprint,

1283
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:39.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, or iris, no one can no one can

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<v Speaker 2>hack that. So when I log into my a lot

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01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:48.239
<v Speaker 2>of my accounts now it does facial recognition or it

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01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:53.599
<v Speaker 2>does fingerprints, but I think only Apple devices have that option.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, hang on, and we're gonna we're really gonna

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01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:02.840
<v Speaker 2>take all of these calls, so just hang on. Now,

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01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:09.039
<v Speaker 2>why does it say that Don's been on? Has he

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01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:11.280
<v Speaker 2>been on that long? Don? What's going on with you, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? Don I'm sorry you wade it so long, Yes, sir,

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01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:15.679
<v Speaker 2>that's all right.

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<v Speaker 20>I don't mind if you can help me. So I've

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01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:24.560
<v Speaker 20>lived in my townhome community about eighteen years and they

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01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 20>towed my vehicle back in two thousand and nine illegally

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01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:30.640
<v Speaker 20>took them small flames courts and they ended up losing,

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<v Speaker 20>so in revenge.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, how'd they lose? Why did they lose? That's unusual.

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01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Why did they lose?

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<v Speaker 20>Okay, so they towed my car after three days. You know,

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01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:44.239
<v Speaker 20>I had a junky old pickup truck because I drive

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01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:46.079
<v Speaker 20>over the road and I would take it out to

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01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:47.680
<v Speaker 20>Common City and park it there for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But why why did they Why did they tow it though?

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01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Did it not have a registration?

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01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:55.680
<v Speaker 9>No, it had a flat tire.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they call that incapacitated.

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01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:03.000
<v Speaker 20>Right, but it was in my parking spot.

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01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:05.720
<v Speaker 2>No, I get it. And how did you win? Tell

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01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:07.159
<v Speaker 2>me what happened? How did you win?

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<v Speaker 20>Because my law they can. They got to put a

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01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:13.479
<v Speaker 20>note that we're going to tow this car, and then

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01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:15.560
<v Speaker 20>they got to wait three more days before they can

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<v Speaker 20>tow it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, actually that's that's a new law, and there

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01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:23.560
<v Speaker 2>are new restrictions. However, there are exceptions to that law,

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01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:26.920
<v Speaker 2>but apparently they didn't apply to you because you won,

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01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.119
<v Speaker 2>so you took them to small claims court and got

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01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:29.880
<v Speaker 2>your money back.

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01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.000
<v Speaker 20>Well, no, I got money plus.

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01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:35.720
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, how much did you win?

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01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:38.840
<v Speaker 20>I've won like six dollars?

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01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:42.439
<v Speaker 2>And do you rent there? Do you rent there?

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01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:42.640
<v Speaker 5>No?

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01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:43.199
<v Speaker 11>I own?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, okay, that is very unusual. Hold on a second,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come back to you. Who did you

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01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:54.520
<v Speaker 2>sue the hoa? Yes, you are really the man. I

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01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:56.600
<v Speaker 2>want to talk to you about this and more coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, I'm Tom Martine. This guy actually suit his

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01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:02.920
<v Speaker 2>HOA for towing in one Wow. That and more coming

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<v Speaker 2>up on the Troubleshooter Show stick Around. We're also going

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<v Speaker 2>to try to find out more about this ticketmaster hack.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Tom Martino.

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<v Speaker 2>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel roofing

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01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:19.560
<v Speaker 2>dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

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01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:29.800
<v Speaker 2>call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:32.560
<v Speaker 2>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

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01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:35.479
<v Speaker 2>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

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01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:37.760
<v Speaker 2>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 2>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Ripped.

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<v Speaker 2>You need advice so you don't have.

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01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:00.119
<v Speaker 10>Run as fast as Cam.

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01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Is gonna help?

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<v Speaker 13>Come man.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here,

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01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Three oh three seven one three talk. That's the iHeart number.

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<v Speaker 2>My number twenty four to seven is three oh three

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<v Speaker 2>Martino three oh three six.

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<v Speaker 3>Two seven eight four sixty six. Welcome one and all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we discovered, as this show often does, we

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01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:32.239
<v Speaker 2>discover scams, ripoffs, and and all kinds of schemes before

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01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:34.119
<v Speaker 2>anyone else. And then of course you see them show

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01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:37.119
<v Speaker 2>up on TV and and I love the their trick.

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01:11:37.199 --> 01:11:39.680
<v Speaker 3>They claim, of course they.

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01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:43.920
<v Speaker 18>Investigated it and uncovered it and such a game.

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01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.600
<v Speaker 2>But those who listen to this show hear about things

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01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:49.319
<v Speaker 2>weeks and weeks and weeks in advance.

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01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:50.840
<v Speaker 3>And one thing I'm gonna tell you.

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01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:53.840
<v Speaker 2>We discovered a scam, and I looked it up, and

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01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:58.239
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people complaining about it. Their Ticketmaster

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01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:00.800
<v Speaker 2>accounts hacked into and the tickets transferred out.

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01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:04.039
<v Speaker 3>What do you do about it?

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01:12:04.079 --> 01:12:06.800
<v Speaker 2>He's pretty serious. I don't know what you do about it.

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01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Who's handling that? Who did we give this to? Bow?

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01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:16.079
<v Speaker 3>So bo? Did you get his information? Are you checking

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<v Speaker 3>on it?

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01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Of course the email that they transferred it to, not

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01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:24.199
<v Speaker 2>the email, but the email's undeliverable. A lot of times

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01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:29.000
<v Speaker 2>people start a temporary email, so that was a BO.

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<v Speaker 3>He's looking into that.

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01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:33.560
<v Speaker 2>And then we had don We want to go back

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01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:36.680
<v Speaker 2>to who lives in a town home community and he

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01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:37.880
<v Speaker 2>has an issue with an HOA.

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01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:39.439
<v Speaker 3>First and foremost, he won.

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01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:41.680
<v Speaker 2>He took him to small claims court and won when

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01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:43.600
<v Speaker 2>they told him because they didn't toell him, according to

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01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 2>the new law, they have to give him notice. Now

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01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:52.600
<v Speaker 2>that applies all except when you block traffic, or you're

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01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:56.319
<v Speaker 2>in a thoroughfare, a right of way, or someone else's

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01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:00.359
<v Speaker 2>a spot. There is no they don't have to give

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01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:02.760
<v Speaker 2>you warning and all of that. But in his case,

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01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:05.560
<v Speaker 2>they definitely had to give him warning and he won.

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<v Speaker 2>So now what continue your story? Don you've lived there

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01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:15.840
<v Speaker 2>for nineteen years. They towed your car, oh, eighteen years.

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01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 2>They towed your car for a flat tire. You won,

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01:13:18.319 --> 01:13:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you got six hundred plus. What happened then?

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<v Speaker 20>Okay? So then on that falling by eight months later,

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01:13:26.319 --> 01:13:30.720
<v Speaker 20>ten months later, in June or July of twenty ten, ten,

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01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:32.760
<v Speaker 20>they took away my parking Wait.

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01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Wait two thousand wait wait ho ho ho two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and ten.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, this is my car was towed in two thousand

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01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:43.279
<v Speaker 20>and nine, and that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, wait a minute, there was wait wait wait,

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01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:48.399
<v Speaker 2>hold hold on when you went to small claims court

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01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:52.199
<v Speaker 2>it was back in two thousand and nine. Yes, yes,

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01:13:52.479 --> 01:13:55.199
<v Speaker 2>there was no requirement for warning back then. But I

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01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:56.439
<v Speaker 2>don't know how you want. I don't want to I

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01:13:56.479 --> 01:13:57.960
<v Speaker 2>don't want to get I don't want to get into it.

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01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:02.079
<v Speaker 2>You won, so I okay, So they told your car

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01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:07.920
<v Speaker 2>nine they in two thousand and nine. Okay, okay, got it?

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01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:10.479
<v Speaker 2>So why are we calling about this now?

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<v Speaker 20>That's well, that's not the problem. What happened after that,

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01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.760
<v Speaker 20>even with me, They took away the parking spot that

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<v Speaker 20>I hadn't runed in my garage where they towed my

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01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:21.479
<v Speaker 20>car from.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then oh hold on, okay, so the

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01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:28.680
<v Speaker 2>HOA took away your your parking spot in what.

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01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:31.479
<v Speaker 20>Year in twenty ten.

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01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I don't know where. By the way, people,

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01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:38.520
<v Speaker 2>when I tell you, people think chronologically.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a prime example.

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<v Speaker 2>He started out in two thousand and nine, we're now

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01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:42.520
<v Speaker 2>in twenty ten.

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01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:44.479
<v Speaker 3>So what happened to keep going?

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<v Speaker 20>Okay, so you know, so now my parking spot is probably.

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01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Why did they wait? Wait, what was the excuse for

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01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:52.920
<v Speaker 2>taking your parking space away?

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<v Speaker 20>Okay? So they said I was parking in the filing,

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<v Speaker 20>which this is wonderful because in the same exact tho,

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01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:03.159
<v Speaker 20>because the main drag goes right past the end of

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01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:06.600
<v Speaker 20>my driveway and the neighbors to the west of me

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01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:08.000
<v Speaker 20>can still park art of there.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they give you? Did they give you another parking space?

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01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:12.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:14.920
<v Speaker 20>Over and away over by another hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got it, I got it. Okay, so keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>They took away your parking space near near the townhouse, okay,

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01:15:23.880 --> 01:15:27.560
<v Speaker 2>and and okay, got it right in my garage.

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01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:30.439
<v Speaker 20>And so with doing that, they had to take away

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01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.439
<v Speaker 20>my neighbors next door to me to the east the

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01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:36.399
<v Speaker 20>same way. So we're the only two people out of

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01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:38.119
<v Speaker 20>eighty units that can that park them.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, I get it, I get it. So

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01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:43.960
<v Speaker 2>so but keep going, Man, I don't know where we're

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01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:47.560
<v Speaker 2>going with this story. This is only twenty ten, and

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01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:49.319
<v Speaker 2>we're okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 20>Now, I'm getting to it. I'm getting to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ees, I hope you do. Okay, you sure we don't

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01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:55.039
<v Speaker 2>have to go through twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, keep going.

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<v Speaker 20>No, no, no, no, we're going to jup right to present.

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<v Speaker 20>About six months ago, door Dashin, I met this lady

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01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:08.680
<v Speaker 20>who's an arbitrator, and we ended up talking about townhomes,

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01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:12.279
<v Speaker 20>about things, and she told me that they're required by

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01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.960
<v Speaker 20>law if they're going to move parking spots, that they

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01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.960
<v Speaker 20>have to do a parking study in order to change

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01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:19.680
<v Speaker 20>spots in the town home community.

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01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, don she's wrong. Do that she's wrong? Oh really, yeah,

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01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.720
<v Speaker 2>but let's let's not go there here. I got another way,

1456
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I got another proposition. Okay, let's assume she was correct. Okay,

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01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:42.079
<v Speaker 2>let's assume that in two thoy ten they did not go.

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<v Speaker 3>Through the proper procedure.

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01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's, for argument's sake, let's say that's true. They did

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01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:54.119
<v Speaker 2>not do it properly. In twenty ten, you are so

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01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:58.840
<v Speaker 2>past the statute of limitations that you could never do

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<v Speaker 2>anything about it ever.

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01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:04.199
<v Speaker 20>I mean my parking spots now mine, no matter what,

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01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:08.800
<v Speaker 20>even though I'm the only one singled out for this, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Been fourteen years. Yeah, I know, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know, Don, Don, I'm gonna listen, Don, I

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01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:19.840
<v Speaker 2>got it, seriously, Bro, I got to take some other

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01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:21.640
<v Speaker 2>calls now you know you are.

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<v Speaker 20>Can you give me a lawyer I can talk to

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01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:27.520
<v Speaker 20>you about h please, That's why I called then a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's see a lawyer that does.

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01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you want to pay for a consultation. We got

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01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to find a lawyer. We don't okay, okay, okay. Brad

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01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:43.479
<v Speaker 2>O'Brien O'Brien legal Services. He's a real estate attorney and

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01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:46.199
<v Speaker 2>he can talk to you all about HOA. So, Brian

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01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:50.760
<v Speaker 2>O'Brien legal services. Brad, his name is Brad O'Brien. Let

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01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:54.159
<v Speaker 2>me give you his number. Here's his number, seven to

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01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:58.640
<v Speaker 2>zero three seven zero seventy three.

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<v Speaker 20>Eighty eight seventy three eighty eighty.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

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01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:04.640
<v Speaker 2>But can I talk to you as a friend here?

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01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I really, I really do want to talk to you.

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01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Don't waste your time, okay, don't waste your money. I'm serious, Bro,

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01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, why would you well.

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01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:19.720
<v Speaker 20>Because I fall. I have to walk across a whole

1486
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:22.359
<v Speaker 20>thing lane of ice. How are you you set up

1487
01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:24.720
<v Speaker 20>with the sun? I have to subverse ice and I

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01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:25.359
<v Speaker 20>have eight.

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01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:32.159
<v Speaker 2>But do you understand this condition has existed for fourteen years?

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01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what the statute of limitary? Do you

1491
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:37.880
<v Speaker 2>know what the statute of limitation means?

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01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:39.520
<v Speaker 20>Yes? I absolutely do.

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01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:41.720
<v Speaker 2>What does it mean? No? No, you don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>does it mean?

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<v Speaker 20>It means if you only have a certain amount of

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01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:49.039
<v Speaker 20>time to address an issue before times the clock starts.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's two different there's two different statutes of limitations.

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01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:59.199
<v Speaker 2>There's one that goes from the discovery of a problem

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<v Speaker 2>and then usually goes two or three years, okay, depending

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01:19:03.239 --> 01:19:06.319
<v Speaker 2>on the offense. So you're going to say you discovered

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01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:06.960
<v Speaker 2>it when.

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01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:10.239
<v Speaker 20>I've just discovered it in like juno.

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01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Now, because of that discovery clause, and because that

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01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:24.159
<v Speaker 2>could indefinitely extend lawsuits, there's another statute limitations that goes

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01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:29.520
<v Speaker 2>along with it. It's called it's called an absolute.

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01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Statute of limitations. Okay, Now do you know what that means?

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01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:36.079
<v Speaker 20>I'm not not not.

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01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:40.199
<v Speaker 2>It means that no matter when you discover it, no

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01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:45.880
<v Speaker 2>matter when you discover it, don't if it's past usually

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01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:50.880
<v Speaker 2>ten on the outside. Some have an absolute statute of

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01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:52.560
<v Speaker 2>limitations of twelve years.

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01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:55.600
<v Speaker 20>Oh okay, so I'm even outside that got you.

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01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I believe you're totally outside of it. And I don't

1514
01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:02.279
<v Speaker 2>think you have a prayer. But call Brad O'Brien, spend

1515
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:05.399
<v Speaker 2>your money and find that out for yourself. That's okay,

1516
01:20:05.600 --> 01:20:06.920
<v Speaker 2>you should get legal advice.

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01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:08.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to give you legal advice.

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01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:13.199
<v Speaker 20>Well, like I said, you know, they they did this

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01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:16.279
<v Speaker 20>through a retired fire cheap is how what's that done?

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01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:18.159
<v Speaker 20>Changing the fireplace done?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter, Okay.

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01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean you can still call if you want to

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01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:26.079
<v Speaker 2>spend you know, like I said, I'm not giving you

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01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:30.000
<v Speaker 2>legal advice. You know there might be some crazy way. Hey,

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01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:33.199
<v Speaker 2>do me a favor though, if you because you're so tenacious,

1526
01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you took them to court nine years ago, act you

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01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:38.079
<v Speaker 2>or whatever in two thousand and nine, I mean, and

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01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:38.479
<v Speaker 2>you won.

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01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Just let me know what happens, okay.

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01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:43.119
<v Speaker 20>All right, yeah, I well, thank you.

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01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. Three h three seven to one three

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<v Speaker 2>talk seven one three A two five five Byron.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the show, Byron, what's going on? Man. What's

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01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:56.920
<v Speaker 3>going on? Byron good Man? What's happening?

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01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:03.840
<v Speaker 5>Good Hey, I have a sibling that is not taking

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01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:06.880
<v Speaker 5>care of their finances properly.

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01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:08.560
<v Speaker 3>How old is the sibling?

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01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:17.640
<v Speaker 5>Sixty five? He's been on good pain killers for probably

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01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:23.239
<v Speaker 5>forty years. Oh right, so I think his brain's messed up.

1540
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I get where you're going. Hang on and we'll

1541
01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:29.720
<v Speaker 2>come back to that. We'll talk about competency. Let's see

1542
01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:33.000
<v Speaker 2>we can get our attorney on. Let's see who she

1543
01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:35.680
<v Speaker 2>would get. How about Dan mackenzie, Let's try to get

1544
01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:38.840
<v Speaker 2>him on. Okay, Kachina, I'm Tom Martinez. We have more

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<v Speaker 2>all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom, Martino. Here,

1554
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<v Speaker 2>guess what we found out, Deputy d When we were

1555
01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:33.640
<v Speaker 2>talking about, uh, this hacking of Ticketmaster, one guy texted

1556
01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:35.640
<v Speaker 2>me and said, Oh, that's impossible. How are they going

1557
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:38.880
<v Speaker 2>to hack your Ticketmaster account? Guess what happened? Go ahead,

1558
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Dimitri Tom.

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01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:43.119
<v Speaker 4>Here's a story on CBS News from just a couple

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01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:43.760
<v Speaker 4>of months ago.

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01:22:44.439 --> 01:22:46.159
<v Speaker 3>Uh is that local or is that national?

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01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:46.880
<v Speaker 2>National?

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01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.880
<v Speaker 4>The network itself, a cyber criminal group claims that stole

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01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:55.520
<v Speaker 4>personal data belonging to more than five hundred million Ticketmaster customers.

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01:22:56.520 --> 01:23:00.000
<v Speaker 3>And so that's what happened, bro, Your your account was hacked?

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01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:03.640
<v Speaker 3>And what did they say? They could get access to

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01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:04.159
<v Speaker 3>the account?

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01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you could if you have this down

1569
01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:08.800
<v Speaker 2>on this. So they had everybody's user name and password.

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01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what the cyber criminal group claims. And if

1571
01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:15.920
<v Speaker 4>you do a keyword search, you get page after page

1572
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:19.920
<v Speaker 4>after page of very fresh, very recent stories and videos.

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01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>So bo scam bo. Okay, he's working on this. Make

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01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:29.000
<v Speaker 2>sure you tell him about it. Send a link to

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01:23:29.039 --> 01:23:31.039
<v Speaker 2>bow will you or send a link to Kachina. Do

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01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:32.119
<v Speaker 2>you have an email or.

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01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:33.319
<v Speaker 4>Only have your email address?

1578
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Send it to help at troubleshooter dot com and to me, uh, kachina,

1580
01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:43.000
<v Speaker 2>get that to bo. So when he talks to them,

1581
01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:45.279
<v Speaker 2>they feel a little responsibility for helping.

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<v Speaker 3>For God's sakes. Now back to back to Byron.

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01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Byron says, his brother sixty five and uh is not

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01:23:53.640 --> 01:24:01.439
<v Speaker 2>taking care of his finances. He's on painkillers. Yes, and

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01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you think, do you think he's incompetent?

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01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:11.800
<v Speaker 5>Well, obviously it's not what most people do. Most people

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01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:15.199
<v Speaker 5>open their mail and pay their bills.

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01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Now, remember does he live alone?

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01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:20.039
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Does he get.

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01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:23.199
<v Speaker 3>Dressed in the morning, does he shower, does he groom?

1592
01:24:23.279 --> 01:24:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Does he travel? Does he drive?

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01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:29.880
<v Speaker 5>To some extent of course? Yes? Yeah, well so yeah

1594
01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:33.439
<v Speaker 5>he drives. That he probably he should not with the painkillers.

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01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Without him voluntarily, without him voluntarily allowing.

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01:24:37.159 --> 01:24:41.239
<v Speaker 3>You to take over, it's not going.

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01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:47.399
<v Speaker 2>To happen without a court of law declaring him incompetent. Unfortunately,

1598
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:50.640
<v Speaker 2>once that happens, he can't live on his own.

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<v Speaker 5>Right. He's actually in rehab right now and he probably

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01:24:56.920 --> 01:24:59.600
<v Speaker 5>will not get out of rehab, although he's under the

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01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:03.399
<v Speaker 5>delusi that he will. You know, how there's always hope, right,

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01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:03.920
<v Speaker 5>How does.

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<v Speaker 3>One stay on pain killers for fourteen years?

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01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:08.960
<v Speaker 5>Now forty years?

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01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh? My god?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, wait, wait, wait, how do you do that without dying?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's a good question. I mean we've we've been

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01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:22.399
<v Speaker 5>trying to figure this out for years. He's been managing.

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01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:24.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know he'll go he's got pain and

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01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:27.880
<v Speaker 5>management doctors, and but.

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01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Usually you build a tolerance and you never ever get relief.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, forty ye? What what doses?

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01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:38.439
<v Speaker 5>They change it up?

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01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:41.640
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter if you change it up, even if

1615
01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:44.319
<v Speaker 2>you go from one to another to another. It has

1616
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:48.479
<v Speaker 2>to be literally more dosage. And then here's what happens.

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01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>There's no secret. You become more sensitized to pain therefore,

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01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.199
<v Speaker 2>and then less sensitized to the medicine. So you have

1619
01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:59.079
<v Speaker 2>to increase the medicine, and your pain is even more

1620
01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:01.800
<v Speaker 2>than it was in the beginning. And then you keep

1621
01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:06.239
<v Speaker 2>increasing medicine because you don't feel it until your heart stops.

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01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:11.039
<v Speaker 2>That ask prince. I mean, you know, it just happens. So,

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01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:14.680
<v Speaker 2>so here's what I want to know. What dosage was

1624
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<v Speaker 2>he on right before wehab?

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01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:22.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh, morphine? Probably ninety milligrams a day.

1626
01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Let's not that's impopp I mean, I can't believe it's

1627
01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:27.359
<v Speaker 2>only ninety milligrams.

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<v Speaker 3>After all, this time.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and then he's on a dilauded too, he'll.

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01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Do oh oh my god. So he's stack Okay, that's

1631
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:35.279
<v Speaker 2>called stacking him. He's stacking him.

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01:26:35.800 --> 01:26:38.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're stacking him for him.

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01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Usually that before they kill you at abound. There are

1634
01:26:42.079 --> 01:26:43.840
<v Speaker 2>people that have been gone as high as two hundred,

1635
01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:47.319
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and forty milligrams of something and add it

1636
01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:49.199
<v Speaker 2>up or whatever and then you're dead.

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01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:53.800
<v Speaker 5>But man, yeah, I don't so I have no idea

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01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:56.439
<v Speaker 5>how I mean, ninety grill milligram sounds like a lot

1639
01:26:56.439 --> 01:26:57.680
<v Speaker 5>to me, but I don't really know him.

1640
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, it is a lot, but but to I mean, listen, man,

1641
01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:05.039
<v Speaker 3>it is a lot. But there are people that tolerate it.

1642
01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:05.840
<v Speaker 3>You build it up.

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01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:12.359
<v Speaker 5>So no, and I think his he gets hell. So

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01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:16.560
<v Speaker 5>he's in the rehab place right now, which basically nursing home,

1645
01:27:17.039 --> 01:27:20.560
<v Speaker 5>and he focuses really on three things. One is his

1646
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:24.600
<v Speaker 5>pain killers obviously, one is his TV, and the others

1647
01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:28.479
<v Speaker 5>his food and that beyond that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, those are the three essentials in life. Well that's

1649
01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:33.880
<v Speaker 3>what drugs, television, and food.

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01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:38.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, you know I've expanded out to about five

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01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:39.880
<v Speaker 5>things in my life.

1652
01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:42.560
<v Speaker 3>But Kate Byron listen, here's what I want to know.

1653
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:44.680
<v Speaker 2>If you not want to know, I want to tell

1654
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>you if you can get the doctor and yourself and

1655
01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>then some to say he needs art for guardianship. Are

1656
01:27:56.840 --> 01:27:58.239
<v Speaker 2>you ready to take that on man?

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01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:02.079
<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, I would be happy to do that. My

1658
01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.039
<v Speaker 5>sister would be happy to do that too.

1659
01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:05.399
<v Speaker 2>And that's what you need.

1660
01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:07.039
<v Speaker 3>Two family members and a doctor.

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01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:09.319
<v Speaker 5>Is that what it is?

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01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:09.920
<v Speaker 12>What it is?

1663
01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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01:28:10.880 --> 01:28:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Hey, deputy doctor, are you there? I'm here, Tom, Deputy

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01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Dock in coompetency, right, two family members and a doctor.

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01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:22.359
<v Speaker 17>I never dealt with the elderly patients, Tom, most of

1667
01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:27.880
<v Speaker 17>my patients who were under sixty five, so I really

1668
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:30.720
<v Speaker 17>rarely dealt with incompetent incompetency.

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01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:31.680
<v Speaker 16>So I don't know the laws.

1670
01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:32.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know the.

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01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Laws, Okay, I just I know from past cases it's

1672
01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>been a it was something like that. But I'm asking

1673
01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:51.720
<v Speaker 2>my girlfriend declared legally incompetent. Okay, I believe it is

1674
01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:55.840
<v Speaker 2>though two family members and a doctor. And of course

1675
01:28:55.880 --> 01:28:58.600
<v Speaker 2>if there are no family members and then let's see.

1676
01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:00.119
<v Speaker 3>So my girlfriend is saying.

1677
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:04.479
<v Speaker 2>It involves filing a petition with the courts. Okay, it

1678
01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>requires exactly what I said two family members and a caregiver,

1679
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:14.640
<v Speaker 2>or a family member, a caregiver and another party. So

1680
01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:17.319
<v Speaker 2>three parties. You petition the courts.

1681
01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:20.760
<v Speaker 3>That's it. You file a petition and then the courts

1682
01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:21.159
<v Speaker 3>hear it.

1683
01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:24.800
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Okay.

1684
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the courts, if the guy protests a lot and

1685
01:29:28.119 --> 01:29:32.520
<v Speaker 2>the court sees it necessary, they may order an independent evaluation.

1686
01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:34.760
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

1687
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>So it's really.

1688
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:41.119
<v Speaker 5>If we needed to get that independent evaluation part that

1689
01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:43.319
<v Speaker 5>was part of it, because that could be I don't know,

1690
01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:46.880
<v Speaker 5>it could be complicated and expensive. I don't it could

1691
01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:48.600
<v Speaker 5>be expended. I don't really care about that.

1692
01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:51.119
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not going to be. It's not that. It's

1693
01:29:51.159 --> 01:29:54.760
<v Speaker 2>not that expensive, by the way. Okay, And here's what's

1694
01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>here's what's crazy. If you do it and take over

1695
01:29:58.039 --> 01:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>as finances, you can reimburse yourself.

1696
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:02.840
<v Speaker 3>It's true. And it's not you know you can't. Well

1697
01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:04.680
<v Speaker 3>you're allowed to do that.

1698
01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:06.279
<v Speaker 2>So what what income?

1699
01:30:06.520 --> 01:30:08.880
<v Speaker 5>This is the one that needs to be reimbursed for

1700
01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:10.399
<v Speaker 5>all her time, that's for sure.

1701
01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:12.680
<v Speaker 3>What income does this guy have?

1702
01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:16.720
<v Speaker 5>Oh, very very low, he's got it. He's probably worth

1703
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:20.119
<v Speaker 5>two million in assets. But it's oh, it's all what.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he do for a what did he do for

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01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:25.079
<v Speaker 3>a living, a farmer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, jeez, how does a farmer get on pain killers?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, he had some pain when he was young, and

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01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:38.760
<v Speaker 5>he had, uh, your broken bone, and and I honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>I can't tell you whether it was justified or not,

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01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:44.800
<v Speaker 5>but it is. You know, when you go and ask

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01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:48.840
<v Speaker 5>for pain medicine from doctors, especially back in the eighties

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01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:53.239
<v Speaker 5>or nineties, you know, there was no real limitation on that.

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01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:56.039
<v Speaker 3>I know it. I know it, my god.

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01:30:56.760 --> 01:30:59.840
<v Speaker 5>Now it's it's a lot harder. And he keeps, he keeps,

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01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:03.920
<v Speaker 5>he keeps worrying that he's going to get his pain.

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01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:05.439
<v Speaker 5>Doctors are going to kick him off.

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01:31:07.039 --> 01:31:10.039
<v Speaker 2>You know. Here's the thing about. Here's the thing about

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01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:12.439
<v Speaker 2>pain meds. Here's the thing about. Have you ever been

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01:31:12.439 --> 01:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>on pain meds? Byron?

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01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:15.119
<v Speaker 5>No? Not really?

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01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean right here, here's I don't understand well, and

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01:31:19.199 --> 01:31:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about like opiates or the like.

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01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Now here's the thing. Here's the thing.

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01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand what it is. But this is a reality.

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01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Some people can get on pain meds and it.

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01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Never ever affects them.

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01:31:37.239 --> 01:31:40.399
<v Speaker 2>They get off them once they've been on them, they

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01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>get on them six weeks, they have to get off

1729
01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:45.359
<v Speaker 2>they get on, three weeks, they get off, and and

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01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:49.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like amazing to me. It just is one of

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01:31:49.279 --> 01:31:53.479
<v Speaker 2>those things where people aren't affected. Then there's another group

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01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:58.039
<v Speaker 2>of people who take a pain pill and something about

1733
01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the way they're wired. It just flips a switch. Well,

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01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:07.600
<v Speaker 2>it's not that they get hooked. They want to be hooked.

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01:32:07.800 --> 01:32:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you something. I remember the day,

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<v Speaker 2>many many many years ago, many years ago, this doctor

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01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>when I had that problems way I mean, I don't

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01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:21.560
<v Speaker 2>even remember how.

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01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Old I was.

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01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:25.399
<v Speaker 2>I had such back problems and it was like hurting

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01:32:25.399 --> 01:32:29.439
<v Speaker 2>me like crazy. Somebody that this doctor prescribed me some

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01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:33.079
<v Speaker 2>a painkiller, and I remember the day when I took

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01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:39.640
<v Speaker 2>it and my entire world changed. I thought, oh my god,

1744
01:32:40.319 --> 01:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I never knew life could be so wonderful. I'm serious.

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01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:46.199
<v Speaker 2>That was my first host. So here's what I did.

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01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>When I was running out. I asked my other doctors,

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01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:52.079
<v Speaker 2>a really good friend of mine, I say, hey, doc,

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01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:57.199
<v Speaker 2>is there a such thing as painkillers being used like

1749
01:32:57.239 --> 01:33:01.399
<v Speaker 2>a maintenance thing for depression or for like like anxious

1750
01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:05.119
<v Speaker 2>and for making your life better? And he said, absolutely

1751
01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:12.399
<v Speaker 2>positively not. And he says, you are wired. And he said,

1752
01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:15.760
<v Speaker 2>if you like it that much. Get off of them.

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01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:18.319
<v Speaker 2>It was the wisest thing he ever told me. And

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01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>so I don't. I don't even take them. I mean

1755
01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:23.159
<v Speaker 2>I did when I had surgery, like real quick. But

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01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I tell those doctors right up front, do not prescribe

1757
01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:29.439
<v Speaker 2>me a painkiller. I tell him it's in my chart,

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01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and only because it scared the hell out of me.

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01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:36.000
<v Speaker 2>So there are your brother, I'll bet you there are

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01:33:36.079 --> 01:33:39.319
<v Speaker 2>people that literally get up in the morning thinking about

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01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:41.359
<v Speaker 2>when do I take my next dose?

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01:33:41.640 --> 01:33:42.840
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know why.

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01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea why some people are wired that way?

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01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:48.119
<v Speaker 3>Why do you think? I mean, you're not, And he

1765
01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:49.800
<v Speaker 3>is right, that's weird.

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01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:54.560
<v Speaker 5>So and my dad was on the same situation. He

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01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:57.279
<v Speaker 5>had had back being since he was eleven. It's from

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01:33:57.319 --> 01:34:00.800
<v Speaker 5>a car accident, and so he was on killers his

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01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:04.560
<v Speaker 5>whole life. And of course they work together, and I,

1770
01:34:05.279 --> 01:34:08.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe he got it from there. I don't know, yeah,

1771
01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:10.600
<v Speaker 5>forward from there.

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01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I asked. I asked a doctor one time, why are

1773
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:18.880
<v Speaker 2>some people wired where it just fills in all these gaps?

1774
01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I swear to God, I mean it

1775
01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:24.159
<v Speaker 2>would be like it's a road to nowhere and then

1776
01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you die and you know, and I I I wonder

1777
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:31.439
<v Speaker 2>about that and and people say, well, no, you know,

1778
01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>addiction is a physical disease and and there's nothing you

1779
01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:38.800
<v Speaker 2>can do about it. And that's bs because it's attitude

1780
01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>you have. You have to say to yourself, all right,

1781
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:44.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing it, you know, And that's behavioral. I'm

1782
01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>not doing it. But you know, if you do do it,

1783
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>it feels so good. And it's just crazy. But my

1784
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:52.560
<v Speaker 2>heart goes out to people when they're hooked on them.

1785
01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Over the years, I've talked to many people and I

1786
01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:58.119
<v Speaker 2>don't get all judgmental, but because I know how they feel.

1787
01:34:58.520 --> 01:34:59.720
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, thanks.

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01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:02.800
<v Speaker 17>To my brother, he was fifty years old and never

1789
01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:06.159
<v Speaker 17>took a drug in his life, had shows with surgery,

1790
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:10.520
<v Speaker 17>and after he stopped after three days, he had such

1791
01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:13.159
<v Speaker 17>withdrawal symptoms they had to bring him to the hospital.

1792
01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Doc.

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01:35:13.960 --> 01:35:16.920
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't even withdrawal, it's a mental thing. It's just this.

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01:35:17.439 --> 01:35:20.000
<v Speaker 16>You get physical withdrawal sometimes, well, of course.

1795
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:22.079
<v Speaker 3>You can, yes, but it takes a long time, doesn't it.

1796
01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:23.159
<v Speaker 16>No, That's what I'm saying.

1797
01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:24.039
<v Speaker 2>It took him.

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01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:26.960
<v Speaker 17>He was after for two days and he had only

1799
01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:28.920
<v Speaker 17>been on it for about a week and he went

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01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:29.720
<v Speaker 17>into withdrawal.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it? Let's talk to Lauren Lauren? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 14>Hi?

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01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Hi Lauren? Oh, what's going on?

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01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:45.119
<v Speaker 15>I took my Hi, I took my car to a

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01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:49.079
<v Speaker 15>Firestone to get an alternator replaced. With my car, they

1821
01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:51.560
<v Speaker 15>had to remove the air conditioning to get the alternator.

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01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:52.600
<v Speaker 2>What kind of car is?

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01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:59.520
<v Speaker 15>Then that came twenty ten Nissan Morano. Okay, yeah, And

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01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:01.960
<v Speaker 15>so I came back that I got an oil change

1825
01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:03.880
<v Speaker 15>that came up, that I had an air conditioning leak.

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01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:06.039
<v Speaker 15>So I took it back to Firestone, like, hey, you

1827
01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:08.119
<v Speaker 15>guys are the only ones that touched the air conditioning.

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01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:11.199
<v Speaker 15>They're like, oh, it wasn't us. These things just happened.

1829
01:37:11.279 --> 01:37:12.920
<v Speaker 15>I took it to them again, like, look, it was

1830
01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:15.159
<v Speaker 15>working just fine before I brought it to you guys.

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01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:16.840
<v Speaker 15>Oh it was just a still.

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01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>How long how long after how long after the service

1833
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:23.439
<v Speaker 2>did the ac leak show up?

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01:37:25.279 --> 01:37:27.960
<v Speaker 15>I would say about a month after. I have multiple sclerosis,

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01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:31.079
<v Speaker 15>so I don't drive very often. But that being said,

1836
01:37:31.319 --> 01:37:33.399
<v Speaker 15>I do have a medical condition that I have heat

1837
01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:34.600
<v Speaker 15>in tolerance. I get busy.

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01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:37.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I understand that for sure. Yeah, Lauren, where did

1839
01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:39.079
<v Speaker 2>you take it for service?

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01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:41.359
<v Speaker 15>Firestone?

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01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Just a normal Firestone one particular one.

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01:37:46.279 --> 01:37:49.920
<v Speaker 15>Uh, it's a Firestone on eightis. And Wadsworth, a friend

1843
01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:52.600
<v Speaker 15>of mine, helped me with the alternator because I'm on

1844
01:37:52.680 --> 01:37:55.039
<v Speaker 15>disability as a fixed in its like well, yeah, like

1845
01:37:55.239 --> 01:37:58.520
<v Speaker 15>I've done business with Firestone. Take it there and so

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01:37:59.439 --> 01:38:00.640
<v Speaker 15>I didn't know and.

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01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:03.880
<v Speaker 2>They did the alternator. Everything else went well. Right, they

1848
01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:05.640
<v Speaker 2>got the alternator and all of that, right.

1849
01:38:06.760 --> 01:38:09.960
<v Speaker 15>I mean, that's questionable because I was even telling my

1850
01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:12.479
<v Speaker 15>Grappa when I start the car, my car has driven

1851
01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:15.119
<v Speaker 15>really bad ever since they worked on it. I was

1852
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:17.159
<v Speaker 15>telling my grandpa, like, I recorded a noise it was

1853
01:38:17.199 --> 01:38:20.000
<v Speaker 15>making after I started, and he's like, that's a bad alternator.

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01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:21.960
<v Speaker 15>So I just took it back yesterday, like, oh, we

1855
01:38:22.079 --> 01:38:24.880
<v Speaker 15>think the alternator's sad. They kept it all night and

1856
01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:27.319
<v Speaker 15>today they were like, oh, we didn't find anything wrong

1857
01:38:27.359 --> 01:38:29.199
<v Speaker 15>with the alternator, but the sound is gone.

1858
01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:33.520
<v Speaker 2>And when when did they When did they do that alternator?

1859
01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Originally that was in June? And was that for Is

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01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>that for a new alternator or just did they fix

1861
01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it or what a new alternator? Okay, now right now

1862
01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.119
<v Speaker 2>where we sit, what's the problem right now?

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01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:55.880
<v Speaker 15>The air conditioning because my air conditioning doesn't work. And

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01:38:55.920 --> 01:38:58.119
<v Speaker 15>then I took it back to them like hey, it

1865
01:38:58.159 --> 01:38:59.800
<v Speaker 15>has a leak and you guys touched it, and so

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01:38:59.800 --> 01:39:01.720
<v Speaker 15>they drained all the free on like, oh, you can't

1867
01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:05.079
<v Speaker 15>use your air conditioning until you get a six and

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01:39:05.079 --> 01:39:07.960
<v Speaker 15>they quoted me like eighteen dollars, but they said.

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01:39:07.920 --> 01:39:10.079
<v Speaker 3>It's not but they said it's not their fault.

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01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:10.479
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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01:39:11.479 --> 01:39:13.119
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, They're like, well, we had to take it out

1872
01:39:13.159 --> 01:39:15.479
<v Speaker 15>in order to get to the alternators, but we didn't

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01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:16.079
<v Speaker 15>cause the leak.

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01:39:16.600 --> 01:39:18.680
<v Speaker 2>They had to take what but what they had to

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01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:21.560
<v Speaker 2>take hold on? What did they have to take out?

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01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:23.119
<v Speaker 2>That's the part I'm confused about.

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01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.199
<v Speaker 15>They had to take the whole air conditioning unit out

1878
01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:27.560
<v Speaker 15>to get to the alternator career.

1879
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:30.600
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't sound That doesn't sound correct to me. Something

1880
01:39:31.039 --> 01:39:33.680
<v Speaker 2>is missing. I want to get Kevin Colkin on one

1881
01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>of my auto.

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01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:38.119
<v Speaker 3>Experts and Okay, there's.

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01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:39.880
<v Speaker 2>An expression, and I want you to take this the

1884
01:39:39.960 --> 01:39:42.680
<v Speaker 2>right way, Lauren. There's an expression in the car in

1885
01:39:42.720 --> 01:39:47.079
<v Speaker 2>the car business, it is once you touch the car,

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01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:48.319
<v Speaker 2>you own it.

1887
01:39:48.920 --> 01:39:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Now, what they mean by that is when someone.

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01:39:52.199 --> 01:39:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Works on a car and they're blamed for everything that

1889
01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>goes wrong with it afterwards. Now I'm not saying they

1890
01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:04.239
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be blamed. I'm just saying it's common and I

1891
01:40:04.359 --> 01:40:08.279
<v Speaker 2>just want we have to make a connection here. Now,

1892
01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:10.720
<v Speaker 2>how many miles on this car?

1893
01:40:12.720 --> 01:40:14.279
<v Speaker 15>About one hundred and twenty five.

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01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's something else I need to tell you. And

1895
01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the reason I'm telling you all of this is is

1896
01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:21.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of a dose of reality.

1897
01:40:21.439 --> 01:40:23.479
<v Speaker 3>So we don't go nuts.

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01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Let's say, for argument's sake, they broke the AC.

1899
01:40:31.079 --> 01:40:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Now, one can make the argument.

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01:40:34.319 --> 01:40:42.479
<v Speaker 2>The AC was fourteen years old, and it was. It

1901
01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:45.159
<v Speaker 2>has one hundred and twenty five thousand miles on it,

1902
01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:49.479
<v Speaker 2>so the AC may not have been one hundred percent

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01:40:49.520 --> 01:40:51.239
<v Speaker 2>perfect to begin with.

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01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:52.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna I'm.

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01:40:52.720 --> 01:40:53.520
<v Speaker 5>Just an old car.

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01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:55.560
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, I'm gonna brace you for this.

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01:40:55.880 --> 01:40:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's say they're one hundred percent responsible and they broke it.

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01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:03.760
<v Speaker 2>They still may not be responsible to pay one hundred

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01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:09.600
<v Speaker 2>percent of the repair. Now, I'm not saying they shouldn't help.

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01:41:10.079 --> 01:41:15.680
<v Speaker 2>If they caused it, they should pay for whatever damages

1911
01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:20.800
<v Speaker 2>they caused. So let's say, on a twenty ten with

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01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:24.079
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty five thousand miles, they ruined your AC.

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<v Speaker 2>They certainly don't have to make that AC like new.

1914
01:41:29.319 --> 01:41:32.199
<v Speaker 2>They have to make it like it was, and that's

1915
01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:36.079
<v Speaker 2>impossible to do. So if you this is crazy and

1916
01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:40.760
<v Speaker 2>people hate hearing it, But if you had that rebuilt

1917
01:41:40.880 --> 01:41:44.720
<v Speaker 2>or replaced with a new one, you may have to

1918
01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:47.800
<v Speaker 2>chip in for that along with them, if they were

1919
01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:49.159
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent at fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense to you?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, it's it's It's the same way as if

1923
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<v Speaker 2>you were in an accident in that car and somebody

1924
01:41:58.239 --> 01:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>destroyed it.

1925
01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:01.119
<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't have to buy you a new car.

1926
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<v Speaker 2>They only have to get you a car comparable to

1927
01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:04.600
<v Speaker 2>the one that was destroyed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm not even sure they broke it.

1929
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<v Speaker 2>They may have. I'm gonna ask Kevin about that. Right

1930
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<v Speaker 2>after this, go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

1931
01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until

1932
01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:27.720
<v Speaker 2>you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation.

1933
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<v Speaker 2>In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

1934
01:42:31.600 --> 01:42:34.279
<v Speaker 2>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh

1935
01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:36.680
<v Speaker 2>three seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're

1936
01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real

1937
01:42:39.319 --> 01:42:42.319
<v Speaker 2>estate Man dot com to list your home with Remax

1938
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<v Speaker 2>Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

1939
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<v Speaker 2>Hi Tom Martino here three O three seven one three

1940
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<v Speaker 2>talk seven one three eight two five five. So, Kevin Calkin,

1941
01:43:00.399 --> 01:43:04.640
<v Speaker 2>she has a twenty ten Nissan Morano. She had her

1942
01:43:05.640 --> 01:43:10.520
<v Speaker 2>alternator replaced and her air conditioning's not working. What would

1943
01:43:10.520 --> 01:43:12.960
<v Speaker 2>they have to screw with on that air conditioner to get.

1944
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:17.720
<v Speaker 11>To that, possibly broke the plug off, you know, for

1945
01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:21.760
<v Speaker 11>the electric clutch something like that. That's purely easy. They're

1946
01:43:21.800 --> 01:43:24.680
<v Speaker 11>pretty lightweight plugs. Just not paying attention and just bump

1947
01:43:24.720 --> 01:43:28.920
<v Speaker 11>it and crack it. I mean, if it's still got

1948
01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:29.640
<v Speaker 11>a charge on it.

1949
01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:32.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they're saying there's no there. They took it

1950
01:43:32.399 --> 01:43:34.760
<v Speaker 2>all out. They said it's going to cause eighteen hundred.

1951
01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:35.039
<v Speaker 3>Bucks to fix.

1952
01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Would you be able to look at it and see

1953
01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:41.039
<v Speaker 2>if it was broken because of them doing the alternator

1954
01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:45.319
<v Speaker 2>or if it was just wear and tear or whatever

1955
01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:48.279
<v Speaker 2>in a coincidence, because remember the expression, you touch it.

1956
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:48.680
<v Speaker 3>You own it.

1957
01:43:48.760 --> 01:43:51.439
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, you own the whole car, absolutely, but you.

1958
01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:53.920
<v Speaker 3>But you can kind of discern that, can't you?

1959
01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:57.159
<v Speaker 5>Typically yes, yes, all right, So.

1960
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<v Speaker 2>Would you do?

1961
01:43:57.840 --> 01:43:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Can you do us the honors?

1962
01:43:59.239 --> 01:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Where are you located?

1963
01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:02.880
<v Speaker 9>Lauren serve at it?

1964
01:44:03.439 --> 01:44:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1965
01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool, he's on Collfax west of Wadsworth, Kachina.

1966
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<v Speaker 3>Give him the information so she can check it out.

1967
01:44:12.560 --> 01:44:14.359
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, we'll be happy to check it for Kevin.

1968
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<v Speaker 2>I also want to ask you another question after the

1969
01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:20.119
<v Speaker 2>break on the normal life of ACS. Well, maybe you

1970
01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:23.319
<v Speaker 2>tell me what's the normal life it's it's fourteen years old.

1971
01:44:24.680 --> 01:44:26.920
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that's getting close to the end of it. But

1972
01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:29.880
<v Speaker 11>you know they they go fifty fifteen years.

1973
01:44:29.880 --> 01:44:32.039
<v Speaker 2>But a good thank you. We got more coming up.

1974
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

1975
01:44:36.840 --> 01:44:39.479
<v Speaker 2>dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1976
01:44:42.840 --> 01:44:46.399
<v Speaker 2>Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation comparison call

1977
01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of

1978
01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:52.800
<v Speaker 2>insurance companies find out now three oh three seven seven

1979
01:44:52.880 --> 01:44:55.680
<v Speaker 2>one help. You'll think you're his only customer when you

1980
01:44:55.760 --> 01:44:58.199
<v Speaker 2>choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com to

1981
01:44:58.279 --> 01:45:01.439
<v Speaker 2>list your home with Remax Lions three all three nine

1982
01:45:01.479 --> 01:45:03.800
<v Speaker 2>two zero sixteen twenty two.

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01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:09.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, ripped up.

1984
01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:11.199
<v Speaker 18>News.

1985
01:45:13.159 --> 01:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>So you don't have.

1986
01:45:16.199 --> 01:45:16.479
<v Speaker 7>Come.

1987
01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Run in just as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna

1988
01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:29.199
<v Speaker 2>help come man. This is the Troubleshooter Show. Now Tom Martino, Hi,

1989
01:45:29.319 --> 01:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three

1990
01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:36.119
<v Speaker 2>seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five.

1991
01:45:36.560 --> 01:45:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Solving problems, answering questions, taking complaints, making your life a

1992
01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:44.079
<v Speaker 2>little easier if we can a number of topics we've

1993
01:45:44.079 --> 01:45:48.079
<v Speaker 2>been covering will recap when we have a chance. I

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01:45:48.119 --> 01:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>want to talk to uh, let's see Dave a question

1995
01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:54.720
<v Speaker 2>on car insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the only show that it's kind of anywhere, Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we help you? Sir?

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<v Speaker 14>It's Martino. Hey, I called you yesterday and you answered

1999
01:46:02.159 --> 01:46:04.640
<v Speaker 14>my question insurance. That's what I want to do. I

2000
01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:06.520
<v Speaker 14>want to gift my car to my mother. She doesn't

2001
01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:09.399
<v Speaker 14>live in Danversits and Clublow. So I called my insurance

2002
01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:11.520
<v Speaker 14>company see if I could add her on my pology

2003
01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:13.960
<v Speaker 14>and they said no, if she is there different she

2004
01:46:13.960 --> 01:46:16.920
<v Speaker 14>don't live up my address. That's all right, I'm fine,

2005
01:46:17.319 --> 01:46:20.560
<v Speaker 14>Jack are getting non owners that's only liability. They won't

2006
01:46:20.560 --> 01:46:22.159
<v Speaker 14>cover my damage on my car.

2007
01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Or wait now, wait a minute, wait a minute, what

2008
01:46:25.399 --> 01:46:27.359
<v Speaker 2>are you trying to accomplish? I got to get to

2009
01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:29.560
<v Speaker 2>that first. What are you trying to accomplish, Dave?

2010
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<v Speaker 14>Well, like I said, I'm gonna give her the gift

2011
01:46:32.479 --> 01:46:35.079
<v Speaker 14>for the car in place for her. I have so

2012
01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:35.720
<v Speaker 14>many cars.

2013
01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Right when you gift her this car, why can't she

2014
01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:42.079
<v Speaker 2>just buy her own insurance?

2015
01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:45.199
<v Speaker 14>Okay, that's the question. She's going to check into that.

2016
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:47.399
<v Speaker 14>But I owe money to a bank still on the car,

2017
01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:48.760
<v Speaker 14>I got food coverage on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you're gonna you're you're required. You're required to

2019
01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:57.159
<v Speaker 2>have collision coverage and you can't gift the car. If

2020
01:46:57.199 --> 01:47:02.119
<v Speaker 2>you do, they can call the note do off. So

2021
01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:08.359
<v Speaker 2>what here's what you do? If you can add her

2022
01:47:08.399 --> 01:47:10.680
<v Speaker 2>to your policy, she doesn't have to live with you

2023
01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:16.079
<v Speaker 2>if it's her car, not her car like you can.

2024
01:47:16.319 --> 01:47:18.720
<v Speaker 2>You can switch the title of the car, but you're

2025
01:47:18.760 --> 01:47:22.800
<v Speaker 2>still responsible for the loan. Let me get compass insurance

2026
01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:25.239
<v Speaker 2>on Okay, you know what, why don't you hold on?

2027
01:47:25.359 --> 01:47:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's get Compass insurance on the line, Kachina Compass insurance?

2028
01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:32.159
<v Speaker 3>Thank you? Uh Savannah has a question.

2029
01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:35.520
<v Speaker 2>We get quite a bit now with the new mailers

2030
01:47:35.520 --> 01:47:40.399
<v Speaker 2>going out from Excel Energy and uh Savannah, welcome.

2031
01:47:40.680 --> 01:47:41.960
<v Speaker 3>What do you need to know about?

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01:47:43.239 --> 01:47:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Hi?

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01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:44.840
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, so I.

2034
01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:46.760
<v Speaker 9>Got one of those mailers that you've been talking about

2035
01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:49.680
<v Speaker 9>for ten percent off your electricity if you sign up

2036
01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:51.039
<v Speaker 9>for the solar farm thing.

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<v Speaker 15>Right, But Excel does not.

2038
01:47:52.960 --> 01:47:55.720
<v Speaker 9>I don't pay Excel for my electricity bill, so I just.

2039
01:47:55.640 --> 01:47:56.680
<v Speaker 7>Don't know how.

2040
01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, who do you want that benefitness? Who do

2041
01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:03.239
<v Speaker 2>you fort Collins? Well then it won't benefit you. I

2042
01:48:03.279 --> 01:48:05.319
<v Speaker 2>don't see how it can. What do you mean the

2043
01:48:05.359 --> 01:48:07.520
<v Speaker 2>city of Fort Collins. I didn't know that. What what

2044
01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:10.439
<v Speaker 2>are the people in Fort Collins? They pay the city?

2045
01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:14.439
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, we pay the city for electricity and water. We

2046
01:48:14.520 --> 01:48:16.079
<v Speaker 9>only pay Excel for our gap.

2047
01:48:17.479 --> 01:48:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it wouldn't work. You just got that in error.

2048
01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:23.239
<v Speaker 2>But the electricity, how do they parse that out? And

2049
01:48:23.239 --> 01:48:26.359
<v Speaker 2>for Fort Collins? Are they reselling? What are they doing?

2050
01:48:28.199 --> 01:48:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

2051
01:48:28.640 --> 01:48:30.439
<v Speaker 9>I just get a bill from the city for water

2052
01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:32.680
<v Speaker 9>and electric I'm not sure how they We have a.

2053
01:48:32.640 --> 01:48:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Meter and the city reads your meter. Yes, yes, I

2054
01:48:39.319 --> 01:48:42.039
<v Speaker 2>must be. It must be some kind of a co op.

2055
01:48:42.159 --> 01:48:44.119
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of that. I mean, I didn't know that.

2056
01:48:44.199 --> 01:48:46.960
<v Speaker 2>By the way, it hasn't been going on a long time.

2057
01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I've been in Colorado nearly fifty years. I mean, has

2058
01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:51.520
<v Speaker 2>it been going on along ever since?

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01:48:51.520 --> 01:48:54.199
<v Speaker 9>I've ever since I've been on my own in the

2060
01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:56.319
<v Speaker 9>city of Fort Collins. We've always paid the City of

2061
01:48:56.359 --> 01:48:57.960
<v Speaker 9>Fort Collins for our electric and water.

2062
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, it's interesting. Okay, well, no you can't. Obviously, it

2063
01:49:03.279 --> 01:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>has to be someone who gets electricity from Excel and

2064
01:49:07.279 --> 01:49:10.279
<v Speaker 2>then you sign onto this co op and then you

2065
01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:12.840
<v Speaker 2>get the bill a bill from the co op, and

2066
01:49:12.880 --> 01:49:15.840
<v Speaker 2>then you get a lower bill from Excel, and supposedly

2067
01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:21.079
<v Speaker 2>the two added together give you at least ten percent reduction,

2068
01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:24.840
<v Speaker 2>sometimes more so because you're taking part.

2069
01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:27.000
<v Speaker 9>I thought it was weird. I even got the letter,

2070
01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:28.199
<v Speaker 9>so do I.

2071
01:49:28.279 --> 01:49:30.399
<v Speaker 2>But you know why, because you are a customer. You're

2072
01:49:30.439 --> 01:49:33.399
<v Speaker 2>just a gas customer. But I just think there's probably

2073
01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:35.600
<v Speaker 2>no way for them to know, or they they just

2074
01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:37.680
<v Speaker 2>sent it out to all of their customers.

2075
01:49:38.039 --> 01:49:40.399
<v Speaker 3>Savannah, that's interesting. So anyone else.

2076
01:49:40.159 --> 01:49:43.159
<v Speaker 2>If you got that and you only get gased from Excel,

2077
01:49:43.279 --> 01:49:47.119
<v Speaker 2>obviously you're not going to get a rebate on your

2078
01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:48.520
<v Speaker 2>UH on.

2079
01:49:48.439 --> 01:49:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Your electric all right?

2080
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:53.800
<v Speaker 2>So do how how is getting thank you? How is

2081
01:49:53.880 --> 01:50:00.520
<v Speaker 2>getting compassed? Did we get Compass on or not? Thank you?

2082
01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

2083
01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:04.359
<v Speaker 17>Kachina, Hey, Tom, I did that with my son. I

2084
01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:07.680
<v Speaker 17>just listened to him as a driver, and I kept

2085
01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:09.640
<v Speaker 17>it with the car in my name and.

2086
01:50:09.560 --> 01:50:10.560
<v Speaker 16>He has it.

2087
01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I mean when you you ensure it in everything, right.

2088
01:50:15.680 --> 01:50:17.800
<v Speaker 17>I just kept it in my name, put him as

2089
01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:20.159
<v Speaker 17>a driver, and nothing changed.

2090
01:50:22.119 --> 01:50:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well let's figure that out. I'm going to ask

2091
01:50:25.079 --> 01:50:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Compass to be sure. But I believe you.

2092
01:50:27.319 --> 01:50:29.760
<v Speaker 16>I did the Compass because then I you know.

2093
01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I get well, you know what then, Dave, have you

2094
01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:38.680
<v Speaker 2>thought about that? Dave, let's bring him back. According to

2095
01:50:38.720 --> 01:50:42.640
<v Speaker 2>deputy Doc who checked with Compass already, he just named

2096
01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:47.079
<v Speaker 2>him as a driver on the policy. Why wouldn't they

2097
01:50:47.199 --> 01:50:47.800
<v Speaker 2>let you do that?

2098
01:50:49.279 --> 01:50:50.800
<v Speaker 14>Because I tried to be mister a good guy and

2099
01:50:50.800 --> 01:50:52.520
<v Speaker 14>I called him first and see it, and they had

2100
01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:55.279
<v Speaker 14>me on recorded line. They said, no, no, the car

2101
01:50:55.319 --> 01:50:57.800
<v Speaker 14>has to be in Denver, in your garage, in.

2102
01:50:57.760 --> 01:50:59.359
<v Speaker 5>Your possession, not in Pleblo.

2103
01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:01.800
<v Speaker 14>She's used it over there and gets an accident, we

2104
01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:03.000
<v Speaker 14>will not cover that car.

2105
01:51:03.399 --> 01:51:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Now, wait a minute, I don't know if you added

2106
01:51:07.720 --> 01:51:10.840
<v Speaker 2>her as a driver. They said they won't cover it

2107
01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:16.119
<v Speaker 2>if she lives in another household. Right right, all right,

2108
01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Brian Burns Compass Insurance, let's bring him up. Brian, you there, Brian,

2109
01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm here here, all right. So Dave has a car

2110
01:51:27.079 --> 01:51:33.000
<v Speaker 2>that's financed, so obviously it's financed. He must carry collision

2111
01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:38.039
<v Speaker 2>and he wants to give the car to his mother

2112
01:51:38.199 --> 01:51:42.079
<v Speaker 2>if he can, or at least accomplish it so she

2113
01:51:42.279 --> 01:51:46.239
<v Speaker 2>can drive it all the time and be on the insurance. Now,

2114
01:51:47.159 --> 01:51:51.079
<v Speaker 2>his insurance company told him he can't do that if

2115
01:51:51.119 --> 01:51:53.319
<v Speaker 2>she lives in another household.

2116
01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:55.199
<v Speaker 3>That's not true.

2117
01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:56.720
<v Speaker 5>Is it so?

2118
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<v Speaker 21>Because he tried to list her as an as a

2119
01:51:59.199 --> 01:51:59.800
<v Speaker 21>operator on the.

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01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Pall that yes, exactly exactly.

2121
01:52:03.880 --> 01:52:06.800
<v Speaker 21>It's surprising me they even asked the question, because if

2122
01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:08.600
<v Speaker 21>if you were to call me and to say I

2123
01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:10.439
<v Speaker 21>need to add an operator on the policy, I would

2124
01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:13.680
<v Speaker 21>just I would add the operator period. Uh So I

2125
01:52:13.680 --> 01:52:17.279
<v Speaker 21>wouldn't really have to get into the detail about address.

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<v Speaker 21>I assume she's in the same Saint.

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<v Speaker 15>Though she.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's did you say, no, she's in She's in Pueblo, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in Denver area. I think.

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<v Speaker 21>Okay, yeah, so you're still still in Colorado. So that's

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01:52:33.119 --> 01:52:35.119
<v Speaker 21>that's the more important part to me.

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01:52:35.199 --> 01:52:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Who's your car? Who's your carrier?

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<v Speaker 5>Dave safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Okay, why would safe code not let him put

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<v Speaker 2>his mother on that car?

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah?

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01:52:47.720 --> 01:52:51.720
<v Speaker 2>They said you have to have the car at your house, right, Dave?

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<v Speaker 20>Right, what you can on policy?

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01:52:56.319 --> 01:52:59.039
<v Speaker 21>You can change the garaging zip code to wherever it

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01:52:59.119 --> 01:53:01.399
<v Speaker 21>truly is, So that would be another option.

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01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:04.439
<v Speaker 2>Now, why why do they care about the garage? Why

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01:53:04.439 --> 01:53:07.000
<v Speaker 2>do they care about the garaging zip code?

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01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:10.079
<v Speaker 21>As you Well, for a factor of reasons. Let's just

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01:53:10.199 --> 01:53:14.199
<v Speaker 21>talk about the physical damage portion, like let's say comprehensive

2145
01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:16.279
<v Speaker 21>if you're in an area that's more prone to hall.

2146
01:53:16.760 --> 01:53:19.520
<v Speaker 21>The rating factors are different in one place over another,

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01:53:20.079 --> 01:53:23.520
<v Speaker 21>if there's a higher proportion of accidents in a certain area,

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01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:25.319
<v Speaker 21>or theft rate if you're in one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he ought to have it better. He ought

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01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:29.600
<v Speaker 2>to have it better in Pueblo.

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01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:32.199
<v Speaker 21>I would sure think so. I think Pueblo would be

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01:53:32.239 --> 01:53:32.880
<v Speaker 21>a lesser rate.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Dave, you so, what do you actually say to SAFECode?

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01:53:38.159 --> 01:53:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Who is your agent? Dave?

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01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:42.840
<v Speaker 11>You're not talk to Jasker?

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01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:44.640
<v Speaker 14>And they told me you can't do it and make.

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01:53:44.560 --> 01:53:47.920
<v Speaker 2>It Dave, Dave, you don't, Dave, who do you go? Dave?

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01:53:47.960 --> 01:53:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Who do you go to? The buy insurance?

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01:53:51.279 --> 01:53:53.920
<v Speaker 14>I'm a guy that sold it for me to dam

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01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:55.960
<v Speaker 14>wrote it up and I took them and I paid

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01:53:56.039 --> 01:53:57.199
<v Speaker 14>every month on a credit card.

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01:53:57.199 --> 01:53:57.720
<v Speaker 5>I That's all I do.

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01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:03.520
<v Speaker 2>But who is Okay, yeah, co is my insurance? I

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01:54:03.640 --> 01:54:05.880
<v Speaker 2>understand that. But you have an agent?

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<v Speaker 14>Uh?

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01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:09.279
<v Speaker 7>Not me?

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01:54:09.479 --> 01:54:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I just call and connected Brian, Let me, Brian, let

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01:54:11.840 --> 01:54:13.720
<v Speaker 2>me ask you. Just just hold on, Dave. I'm going

2169
01:54:13.800 --> 01:54:16.039
<v Speaker 2>to help you out here. How do you become his

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<v Speaker 2>agent of record?

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01:54:18.800 --> 01:54:20.399
<v Speaker 21>He had to sign a broker of record, but it

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01:54:20.399 --> 01:54:23.399
<v Speaker 21>wouldn't take place until renewals, so it really wouldn't help

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01:54:23.479 --> 01:54:26.680
<v Speaker 21>him in the immediate you know, because they really don't

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01:54:26.760 --> 01:54:30.800
<v Speaker 21>change that over until renewal. But he, I mean, he

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01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:33.600
<v Speaker 21>should have someone. I wouldn't talk to an adjuster. I

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01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:35.800
<v Speaker 21>would know Paul whoever he usually calls. He says, I

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<v Speaker 21>need to add an operator on my policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like, like, who do you call to change things

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01:54:40.920 --> 01:54:43.760
<v Speaker 2>on your policy? Who do you call? Do you have

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01:54:43.880 --> 01:54:44.600
<v Speaker 2>an agent?

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<v Speaker 14>Uh?

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01:54:47.359 --> 01:54:47.880
<v Speaker 9>Now trying?

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<v Speaker 14>I call Safe and it connected me to the same

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01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:51.560
<v Speaker 14>lady that she I guess she's the only one that

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01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:53.880
<v Speaker 14>works here. She goes, I talked to you earlier, sir,

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01:54:53.920 --> 01:54:56.920
<v Speaker 14>and you want to record a line I answer your

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01:54:57.000 --> 01:54:58.079
<v Speaker 14>question before.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 21>Come on, Brian, he's to change insurance, give me a call.

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01:55:04.479 --> 01:55:05.680
<v Speaker 21>Let's just get you somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, do you realize it doesn't cost you

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01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:11.680
<v Speaker 2>anything to change insurance, Dave, you might be able to

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<v Speaker 2>get a better rate.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you did add that one. Not at fault accident, right?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 14>I call Progressive and they changed it. You sent me

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<v Speaker 14>a letter and it said the end of the stake cold,

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01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:22.520
<v Speaker 14>you're not at fault.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, who are you insured by safe COO

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01:55:26.199 --> 01:55:27.119
<v Speaker 2>or Progressive?

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<v Speaker 14>I was Progressive and I got in an accident in

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<v Speaker 14>October at twenty two, but.

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01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:35.479
<v Speaker 3>It was a not at fault accident, right.

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01:55:35.960 --> 01:55:38.800
<v Speaker 21>Yes, rights, it provided a letter that said it was

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01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:39.439
<v Speaker 21>not at fault.

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<v Speaker 2>That's common. And then you switched. You switched to safe

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<v Speaker 2>Coe is that right?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 14>Reading I did that because Progressive that lady only had

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01:55:49.960 --> 01:55:52.600
<v Speaker 14>twenty five grand. I went after my insurance, com Me Propresso,

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01:55:52.960 --> 01:55:57.000
<v Speaker 14>and they paid out like one hundred grand. I didn't

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01:55:57.039 --> 01:55:57.720
<v Speaker 14>think they're too happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, if you use Brian, if you use your under

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01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:03.800
<v Speaker 2>insured motorist coverage, are you dinged for that?

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<v Speaker 21>It's a not at fault just like he said, it's

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01:56:07.119 --> 01:56:09.159
<v Speaker 21>a not at fault act and you're still looked at.

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01:56:09.199 --> 01:56:12.279
<v Speaker 21>They still see it, but it's it's not a chargeable.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Dave, so you're right now with Safeco you ought

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01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:19.159
<v Speaker 2>to switch. Let Brian find you a carrier. I'll bet

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01:56:19.279 --> 01:56:22.439
<v Speaker 2>you you'll save money and you'll get this taken care

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01:56:22.479 --> 01:56:23.960
<v Speaker 2>of with your mom.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, okay, I'm driving right now a company truck. Can

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01:56:27.680 --> 01:56:29.640
<v Speaker 14>I just give him my number? Or off the air?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, off the air, you can off the air and

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01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:33.479
<v Speaker 2>they'll call you. But it's going to be easy for

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<v Speaker 2>you to remember too. It's three oh three nine nine

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<v Speaker 2>six nine thousand. But hold on, Kitchina, get Dave's number

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<v Speaker 2>and give it to Brian. Brian, really, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>ought to take care of me's being jerked around. I

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<v Speaker 2>just can't see that, all right, Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>seven one three talk three or three seven one three

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<v Speaker 2>eight two five five, Carol, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>You you've been working with Deputy Bo?

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<v Speaker 2>Carol.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, Bo told me to call back because he found

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<v Speaker 10>out some information.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, which one was this? What when did you call? Boka?

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<v Speaker 22>He called in Monday, September twenty third, I believe, and

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<v Speaker 22>it was regarding she purchased a wooden structure cabin and

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<v Speaker 22>she contracted.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, that was crazy.

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<v Speaker 16>And she paid quite a bit of money up front.

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<v Speaker 22>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It was to be custom built on your lot with

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<v Speaker 2>Patriot Building justin Garcia. He paid him sixty two grand

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<v Speaker 2>to build, right, didn't you already pay him?

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<v Speaker 20>She already?

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<v Speaker 9>It was a down tam and he promised me to

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<v Speaker 9>have it up in three weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get a hold?

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<v Speaker 22>Yes? I called him four times this guy is a

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<v Speaker 22>total scumbag.

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<v Speaker 2>I am beyond what's he Well, let's get him arrested.

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<v Speaker 22>If he took sixty two, I mean, this isn't like

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01:59:15.800 --> 01:59:17.720
<v Speaker 22>three thousand or eight thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a violation too. What did he say? Did

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<v Speaker 2>he say he is going to keep the money?

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<v Speaker 22>When I was doing that thing the other day, he's

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<v Speaker 22>I told him, you're in violation of the Contractor Trust

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<v Speaker 22>Act And he says, well, yes, I know the regulation.

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<v Speaker 22>I have materials And I said, how could you have

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01:59:33.640 --> 01:59:34.479
<v Speaker 22>material costs?

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<v Speaker 2>Pay?

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<v Speaker 22>You bought the cab, the lady bought the cabin. And

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<v Speaker 22>he says, well, if you keep talking like this or

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<v Speaker 22>bring me up on the air, I'm going I'm going

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<v Speaker 22>to have my lawyer soon. When I said we want,

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<v Speaker 22>I said, I want to talk to your lawyer. I said,

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01:59:48.119 --> 01:59:50.680
<v Speaker 22>you need to give this lady her sixty two thousand

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01:59:50.800 --> 01:59:54.439
<v Speaker 22>dollars back. And then I asked, do you actually have

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01:59:54.479 --> 01:59:57.359
<v Speaker 22>a brick and mortar store brick and mortar or are

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01:59:57.399 --> 01:59:58.479
<v Speaker 22>you working out of your house?

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<v Speaker 16>Then he hung up on me.

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<v Speaker 22>Then I called back, left a couple of messages. So Carol,

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<v Speaker 22>I wanted to tell you this. You don't want this

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02:00:07.199 --> 02:00:10.960
<v Speaker 22>guy doing your job, and he's using an excuse why

2297
02:00:11.000 --> 02:00:13.119
<v Speaker 22>he won't do your job because you don't have their

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02:00:13.159 --> 02:00:16.920
<v Speaker 22>proper drawings or whatever. But I called this city of

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<v Speaker 22>El Paso County. This justin Garcia doesn't even have a

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<v Speaker 22>license to do any.

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<v Speaker 16>Construction work at all.

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<v Speaker 22>He doesn't have a license a building or a contractor's license.

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<v Speaker 2>And where did you where did you check? What?

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<v Speaker 22>Municipality El Paso County, Carora Springs Building Department.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 22>And then on the contract he has a license number

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<v Speaker 22>on the I haven't been able to read the contract.

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<v Speaker 22>Carrol's going snailing mailing it to me, but the license

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<v Speaker 22>number on the contract is bogus. Oh, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 22>is sixty two thousand dollars. I think we need to

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<v Speaker 22>get the callers to call his number, even to protest.

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<v Speaker 3>What's his h what's his number?

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<v Speaker 22>His phone number is seven one nine five seven one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on seven nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I had about this five seven to one oh four

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<v Speaker 2>three seven.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we should definitely call him, so I asked.

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<v Speaker 22>I left him my message because he kept threatening a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 22>I mean, I said, just bring your lawyer. Have your

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<v Speaker 22>lawyer call the radio show so we can get your

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<v Speaker 22>side of this. Story and he said he's way too

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<v Speaker 22>busy to talk to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okayes Bs, this is a scumbag, justin Garcia, Patriot Builders

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<v Speaker 2>a scum bag, just a mofo scumbag?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I say that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Both?

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<v Speaker 22>Did he say that he bought the materials? He says

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<v Speaker 22>he had material costs into the job. And he says,

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<v Speaker 22>if I would read the contract, you could clearly see

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<v Speaker 22>if you would, if I could read that he's entitled

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<v Speaker 22>to keep the money because she didn't start the job

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<v Speaker 22>in a certain amount of time. Well, that's the biggest

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<v Speaker 22>ustion to be as I ever heard. He's sixty two

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<v Speaker 22>thousand dollars of this lady's money for months and she's

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<v Speaker 22>living with us.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, we can't let this happen. We need to

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<v Speaker 2>call BO. Would you call the district attorney in al

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<v Speaker 2>Paso County and school them on the Contractor's Trust Act

2339
02:02:14.279 --> 02:02:16.479
<v Speaker 2>and tell them we have a victim here and this

2340
02:02:16.520 --> 02:02:19.239
<v Speaker 2>guy did not put the money in trust as required

2341
02:02:19.720 --> 02:02:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and has violated everything and doesn't even have a license.

2342
02:02:22.520 --> 02:02:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Please do that follow up? Okay, I am, I'm going

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02:02:25.319 --> 02:02:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to give the actual district attorney. We got to call

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02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:30.359
<v Speaker 2>them in El Paso County.

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<v Speaker 22>It's the fourth judicial district. I've already left a message

2346
02:02:33.600 --> 02:02:35.479
<v Speaker 22>for them Tom, and I'm going to get Carroll to

2347
02:02:35.560 --> 02:02:36.279
<v Speaker 22>call them too.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Carol. We got to get this guy arrested.

2349
02:02:39.279 --> 02:02:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Justin Garcia. Scumbag extraordinary, a piece of garbage. People do

2350
02:02:45.920 --> 02:02:51.840
<v Speaker 2>not let this go. Seven nine five seven one zero

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02:02:52.000 --> 02:02:56.960
<v Speaker 2>four three seven. He takes sixty two thousand dollars, He's

2352
02:02:57.039 --> 02:03:01.680
<v Speaker 2>not licensed, and he will do nothing. Seven one nine

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02:03:02.199 --> 02:03:08.199
<v Speaker 2>five seven one zero four three seven. That's seven one

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02:03:08.399 --> 02:03:16.159
<v Speaker 2>nine five seven one zero four three seven. Patriot Building

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02:03:17.159 --> 02:03:26.000
<v Speaker 2>justin Garcia, justin scumbag waste of skin, Garcia, Patriot Building.

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02:03:26.439 --> 02:03:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Seven one nine five seven one zero four three seven.

2357
02:03:29.920 --> 02:03:32.520
<v Speaker 2>For forty five years, I've been calling fire down on

2358
02:03:32.600 --> 02:03:36.399
<v Speaker 2>these scumbag pieces of garbage, and it's about time we

2359
02:03:36.479 --> 02:03:40.199
<v Speaker 2>stop this crap. You think what makes this man think

2360
02:03:40.399 --> 02:03:43.880
<v Speaker 2>he can rob this woman of sixty two thousand dollars

2361
02:03:44.079 --> 02:03:45.079
<v Speaker 2>and get away with it.

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02:03:45.359 --> 02:03:47.239
<v Speaker 22>And I want to get his address who we can

2363
02:03:47.279 --> 02:03:49.359
<v Speaker 22>go protest or go to his hut.

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02:03:49.479 --> 02:03:53.439
<v Speaker 2>He sucks this man and he says his attorney's gonna

2365
02:03:53.479 --> 02:03:57.159
<v Speaker 2>call you have your attorney call me, because I would

2366
02:03:57.319 --> 02:04:00.279
<v Speaker 2>love to talk to any attorney that would represent you

2367
02:04:01.159 --> 02:04:06.840
<v Speaker 2>probably get another scumbag, snake skinned piece of garbage give

2368
02:04:06.880 --> 02:04:07.680
<v Speaker 2>me and I don't.

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02:04:07.520 --> 02:04:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Mean to insult snakes by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's justin Garcia, Patriot Building. Call me back or

2371
02:04:16.319 --> 02:04:18.720
<v Speaker 2>text me. Let me know what he says. Does he

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02:04:18.800 --> 02:04:22.560
<v Speaker 2>answer his phone? Seven to one nine five seven one

2373
02:04:22.720 --> 02:04:25.800
<v Speaker 2>zero four three seven? Be nice, but let him know

2374
02:04:26.159 --> 02:04:29.199
<v Speaker 2>that you know he's a crook. You know he's a criminal.

2375
02:04:29.720 --> 02:04:30.560
<v Speaker 2>What go ahead?

2376
02:04:30.600 --> 02:04:31.640
<v Speaker 3>What did you want to say?

2377
02:04:31.800 --> 02:04:34.319
<v Speaker 2>And that's all my opinion based on everything we're hearing.

2378
02:04:34.399 --> 02:04:36.640
<v Speaker 2>And Bo even called the guy so bo.

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02:04:36.840 --> 02:04:39.439
<v Speaker 22>Does he answer the phone after the second call? He

2380
02:04:39.520 --> 02:04:40.920
<v Speaker 22>blocked me when I pay.

2381
02:04:40.920 --> 02:04:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not talking about you, but how about other people?

2382
02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:44.199
<v Speaker 2>He can't block everyone?

2383
02:04:44.439 --> 02:04:47.399
<v Speaker 22>He will, he will answer the phone. He's very nice.

2384
02:04:47.479 --> 02:04:51.520
<v Speaker 22>High I'm I'm just in the contractor. Can I come

2385
02:04:51.600 --> 02:04:54.920
<v Speaker 22>rip you off for twenty thirty grand? It just pisses

2386
02:04:54.960 --> 02:04:57.479
<v Speaker 22>me off. Oh my god, I'm gonna go down there

2387
02:04:57.520 --> 02:04:58.239
<v Speaker 22>this weekend.

2388
02:04:58.600 --> 02:05:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but be careful. He might be dangerous. I want

2389
02:05:01.800 --> 02:05:03.800
<v Speaker 2>him to call in and tell me where he lives.

2390
02:05:03.800 --> 02:05:06.880
<v Speaker 2>It go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel

2391
02:05:07.000 --> 02:05:10.079
<v Speaker 2>roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content.

2392
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<v Speaker 2>Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation. In comparison,

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02:05:16.760 --> 02:05:20.319
<v Speaker 2>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of insurance companies. Find out now three all three seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven to one.

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<v Speaker 3>Help.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 2>durand the real estate man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 2>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter, Maya. I

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02:05:41.039 --> 02:05:43.239
<v Speaker 2>know I'm not going to start this now.

2402
02:05:43.279 --> 02:05:46.279
<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna start some crap. Just let me

2403
02:05:46.319 --> 02:05:47.479
<v Speaker 3>go on to these man.

2404
02:05:47.520 --> 02:05:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I am so sick and tired of lying, cheating, scumbag ripoffs.

2405
02:05:53.640 --> 02:05:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Justin Garcia people call him, let me know if you did. Okay,

2406
02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Justin's voicemail uses a different name. What does that mean?

2407
02:06:04.279 --> 02:06:04.600
<v Speaker 11>Dollar?

2408
02:06:05.279 --> 02:06:07.079
<v Speaker 3>What does that mean? What does that mean to his

2409
02:06:07.159 --> 02:06:08.880
<v Speaker 3>voicemail uses a different name.

2410
02:06:09.000 --> 02:06:11.279
<v Speaker 10>We actually had a couple of callers that called in

2411
02:06:11.600 --> 02:06:15.640
<v Speaker 10>that left him messages because it's going straight to voicemail.

2412
02:06:17.039 --> 02:06:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but his dollar? What does dollar mean that his

2413
02:06:21.399 --> 02:06:23.359
<v Speaker 2>voicemail uses a different name.

2414
02:06:23.560 --> 02:06:26.199
<v Speaker 10>I have no idea. Maybe he's missed dialing because the

2415
02:06:26.239 --> 02:06:30.800
<v Speaker 10>people that I've spoken with have basically said that he

2416
02:06:30.880 --> 02:06:33.359
<v Speaker 10>has a voicemail that indicates his name.

2417
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<v Speaker 2>Can okay, hold on, I don't understand this at all.

2418
02:06:38.239 --> 02:06:40.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do the phone call right now and

2419
02:06:40.279 --> 02:06:42.800
<v Speaker 2>it don't worry. I'm not putting it on. I'm just

2420
02:06:42.840 --> 02:06:45.560
<v Speaker 2>going to listen. I want to listen to what name

2421
02:06:45.600 --> 02:06:46.079
<v Speaker 2>he says?

2422
02:06:47.000 --> 02:06:50.279
<v Speaker 16>FI zero four tell him while you're doing that.

2423
02:06:50.359 --> 02:06:54.279
<v Speaker 17>I just check the Secretary of State and he does

2424
02:06:54.359 --> 02:06:58.720
<v Speaker 17>have a business address and a personal address.

2425
02:06:58.760 --> 02:07:01.520
<v Speaker 16>So well, I gave that the boat.

2426
02:07:01.399 --> 02:07:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to give that out on the air.

2427
02:07:02.560 --> 02:07:04.039
<v Speaker 16>No, no, no, no, but I'm saying I gave it to

2428
02:07:04.079 --> 02:07:05.039
<v Speaker 16>bad I'm calling.

2429
02:07:04.920 --> 02:07:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Right now, hold on one to say I want to

2430
02:07:06.119 --> 02:07:08.079
<v Speaker 2>hear what he says. I want to hear what he says.

2431
02:07:11.800 --> 02:07:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Come on, man answered, How long does it take to answer? Oh,

2432
02:07:21.439 --> 02:07:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Innate Architecture or something or other. It is justin Garcia,

2433
02:07:27.039 --> 02:07:33.039
<v Speaker 2>but he has another company. It's called Innate Innate Architecture

2434
02:07:33.159 --> 02:07:39.680
<v Speaker 2>or something. But he changes he changes his name. He

2435
02:07:39.840 --> 02:07:44.039
<v Speaker 2>changes his name like like socks unless your deputy doc

2436
02:07:44.359 --> 02:07:48.560
<v Speaker 2>and and yeah he changes them quite often. Uh so

2437
02:07:48.600 --> 02:07:52.800
<v Speaker 2>what can you call that number? Dimitrian write it down

2438
02:07:53.119 --> 02:07:56.720
<v Speaker 2>that what that new name is. Uh, he's going by Innate.

2439
02:07:57.119 --> 02:07:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Did you hear that, Beau when you call? Or is

2440
02:07:59.680 --> 02:08:01.039
<v Speaker 2>it you don't even give it?

2441
02:08:01.720 --> 02:08:07.119
<v Speaker 22>But the paperwork's under Patriot Building LLC. And that's what

2442
02:08:07.279 --> 02:08:10.640
<v Speaker 22>Doc found on the Secretary of State with his actual

2443
02:08:10.680 --> 02:08:12.119
<v Speaker 22>building or home address.

2444
02:08:12.479 --> 02:08:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, trust me, Patriot Remodeling Services LLC is one of them.

2445
02:08:19.319 --> 02:08:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2446
02:08:19.600 --> 02:08:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's got a number of them. He's got

2447
02:08:22.840 --> 02:08:26.359
<v Speaker 2>pay his businesses. So right now I'm making a list

2448
02:08:26.399 --> 02:08:32.439
<v Speaker 2>of his businesses, and what I have is Patriot Remodeling Services, LLC.

2449
02:08:33.159 --> 02:08:35.600
<v Speaker 3>And then we have you have the what's the other one?

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02:08:36.439 --> 02:08:37.600
<v Speaker 16>Did you say innate?

2451
02:08:38.399 --> 02:08:38.600
<v Speaker 18>No?

2452
02:08:38.600 --> 02:08:39.520
<v Speaker 2>No, what did you have?

2453
02:08:39.880 --> 02:08:44.399
<v Speaker 22>You said, I had Patriot Patriot Remodeling LLC.

2454
02:08:45.760 --> 02:08:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And now you said another one. You said the

2455
02:08:48.319 --> 02:08:50.840
<v Speaker 2>business is under something else. You just said it, you

2456
02:08:50.920 --> 02:08:52.840
<v Speaker 2>said Patriots something.

2457
02:08:52.600 --> 02:08:54.279
<v Speaker 16>Building under Secretary of State.

2458
02:08:56.039 --> 02:09:02.359
<v Speaker 2>What is it called Patriot Building? I don't know. They

2459
02:09:02.399 --> 02:09:04.600
<v Speaker 2>just said it five seconds ago, and they can't tell me.

2460
02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:09.800
<v Speaker 2>What is he saying on his voicemail something else? Innate, Innate,

2461
02:09:10.079 --> 02:09:12.520
<v Speaker 2>architecture engineering.

2462
02:09:12.279 --> 02:09:17.439
<v Speaker 22>Innate, Innate, Innate, that was on the phone, but on

2463
02:09:17.479 --> 02:09:20.800
<v Speaker 22>the Secretary of State it's Patriot Remodeling LLC.

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02:09:21.359 --> 02:09:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Patriot Remodeling LLC. Okay, and that's what he.

2465
02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:30.039
<v Speaker 22>That contract to use with Carol. They extract a sixty

2466
02:09:30.079 --> 02:09:32.479
<v Speaker 22>two thousand dollars and he's not doing a damn thing.

2467
02:09:33.520 --> 02:09:36.399
<v Speaker 3>And then the other one is Innate whatever that you

2468
02:09:36.399 --> 02:09:36.720
<v Speaker 3>know what?

2469
02:09:36.800 --> 02:09:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is, Tom Innate, but.

2470
02:09:40.720 --> 02:09:42.840
<v Speaker 22>This is definitely his number, because I've talked to him.

2471
02:09:44.239 --> 02:09:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, an Innate obviously is he probably changed his name

2472
02:09:48.239 --> 02:09:50.840
<v Speaker 2>every time he gets sued and gets a judgment, so

2473
02:09:50.920 --> 02:09:53.359
<v Speaker 2>he has to read. We'll get that other name. Let

2474
02:09:53.359 --> 02:09:55.640
<v Speaker 2>me go to the phones, though, Jessica, what's going on?

2475
02:09:55.760 --> 02:10:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Jessica left? Okay, Well, what did you find on that?

2476
02:10:03.079 --> 02:10:04.079
<v Speaker 3>You catch the name?

2477
02:10:04.239 --> 02:10:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Innate.

2478
02:10:05.920 --> 02:10:12.000
<v Speaker 4>It's called so it's identified as Innate Architecture, engineering architecture

2479
02:10:12.159 --> 02:10:14.880
<v Speaker 4>or architectural architecture okay.

2480
02:10:15.159 --> 02:10:16.039
<v Speaker 3>And what else.

2481
02:10:15.960 --> 02:10:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Engineering and construction and construction.

2482
02:10:20.720 --> 02:10:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

2483
02:10:21.760 --> 02:10:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Yet another name, folks. And that's what Dollar meant when

2484
02:10:25.359 --> 02:10:28.680
<v Speaker 2>he said a different name. This guy is bad, newspeople.

2485
02:10:29.239 --> 02:10:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Just fill it up. And now his email we have

2486
02:10:32.520 --> 02:10:37.960
<v Speaker 2>for you to send emails to him. It is Patriot

2487
02:10:38.279 --> 02:10:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Remodeling Services LC at gmail dot com. Tell them what

2488
02:10:47.319 --> 02:10:50.079
<v Speaker 2>you think if I'm taking sixty two thousand dollars from

2489
02:10:50.079 --> 02:10:55.119
<v Speaker 2>a woman and doing no work. Patriot Remodeling Services LLC

2490
02:10:55.600 --> 02:10:59.199
<v Speaker 2>at gmail dot com. Now, let me explain something to

2491
02:10:59.239 --> 02:11:01.560
<v Speaker 2>his attorney, who will no doubt be reviewing this. If

2492
02:11:01.560 --> 02:11:03.760
<v Speaker 2>he can scrape together the money, well, he has sixty

2493
02:11:03.800 --> 02:11:06.479
<v Speaker 2>grand her money. So here's what I'm going to say

2494
02:11:06.479 --> 02:11:09.319
<v Speaker 2>to mister attorney. I know, I know, I know you're

2495
02:11:09.319 --> 02:11:11.079
<v Speaker 2>going to try to come after me and and blah

2496
02:11:11.159 --> 02:11:14.880
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah. I've eaten you up and spit

2497
02:11:14.960 --> 02:11:20.079
<v Speaker 2>you out several times before. Now here's why I don't lie.

2498
02:11:20.319 --> 02:11:23.960
<v Speaker 2>We take in information, We call people to allow them

2499
02:11:24.000 --> 02:11:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to come on the air.

2500
02:11:25.079 --> 02:11:28.119
<v Speaker 3>We give our opinions. Here's my opinion.

2501
02:11:28.920 --> 02:11:32.039
<v Speaker 2>If you take sixty two grand up front and do

2502
02:11:32.159 --> 02:11:38.000
<v Speaker 2>no work, you're a crook my opinion. According to the

2503
02:11:38.079 --> 02:11:42.479
<v Speaker 2>Contractors Trust Act, that money's supposed to be put in

2504
02:11:42.920 --> 02:11:44.720
<v Speaker 2>trust for that job.

2505
02:11:45.600 --> 02:11:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Did he do that? Doubt it?

2506
02:11:48.960 --> 02:11:53.239
<v Speaker 2>And also she bought the materials herself, and he claimed

2507
02:11:53.279 --> 02:11:55.600
<v Speaker 2>to have materials.

2508
02:11:56.399 --> 02:11:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Expense.

2509
02:11:58.520 --> 02:11:59.560
<v Speaker 2>But here's the deal.

2510
02:12:00.760 --> 02:12:02.279
<v Speaker 3>I doubt he's followed.

2511
02:12:01.960 --> 02:12:05.159
<v Speaker 2>The Contractor's Trust Act. In fact, we can't find much

2512
02:12:05.239 --> 02:12:08.359
<v Speaker 2>licensing on him. And we found a number of different

2513
02:12:08.960 --> 02:12:12.199
<v Speaker 2>business names. So if you want to represent him, that's fine, okay,

2514
02:12:12.560 --> 02:12:15.760
<v Speaker 2>because I would love to go into the discovery and

2515
02:12:15.840 --> 02:12:18.680
<v Speaker 2>get into his bank accounts and how many times he's

2516
02:12:18.720 --> 02:12:21.640
<v Speaker 2>taken money down, and how many times he's opened up

2517
02:12:21.680 --> 02:12:25.279
<v Speaker 2>trust accounts, and how many times this has happened.

2518
02:12:26.039 --> 02:12:30.119
<v Speaker 3>So, mister attorney, bring.

2519
02:12:29.920 --> 02:12:34.239
<v Speaker 2>It three oho three, seven to one three talks seven

2520
02:12:34.319 --> 02:12:39.439
<v Speaker 2>one three eight two five five. It's interesting to note

2521
02:12:39.560 --> 02:12:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I have never once lost a case, not once. We

2522
02:12:46.520 --> 02:12:50.960
<v Speaker 2>fight for you people, because people like this should not

2523
02:12:51.800 --> 02:12:54.119
<v Speaker 2>be allowed to exist.

2524
02:12:54.720 --> 02:12:57.640
<v Speaker 3>I've been yelling that song for more than forty five years.

2525
02:12:57.680 --> 02:13:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I say forty five years. That's Denver. I was in

2526
02:13:00.960 --> 02:13:07.199
<v Speaker 2>business for about five or six years before Denver, rapidly

2527
02:13:07.239 --> 02:13:09.319
<v Speaker 2>moving until I ended up here and then I didn't

2528
02:13:09.319 --> 02:13:13.520
<v Speaker 2>move anymore. If you want to know my life story,

2529
02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:16.399
<v Speaker 2>it is coming to a theater near you, probably on

2530
02:13:16.479 --> 02:13:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Netflix as well.

2531
02:13:18.119 --> 02:13:19.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm just kidding a.

2532
02:13:19.399 --> 02:13:21.399
<v Speaker 16>Lot of people don't like horror movies.

2533
02:13:21.199 --> 02:13:21.600
<v Speaker 5>Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Man anyway, So anyway, here's the deal. If you

2535
02:13:28.680 --> 02:13:30.479
<v Speaker 2>have a problem, question or complain, give us a call

2536
02:13:30.520 --> 02:13:32.279
<v Speaker 2>and we'll go after them. Okay, we got more coming

2537
02:13:32.319 --> 02:13:35.159
<v Speaker 2>up on the Troubleshooter show, and I like to say this.

2538
02:13:35.359 --> 02:13:38.880
<v Speaker 2>We will do what it takes. We'll do what it

2539
02:13:38.920 --> 02:13:42.600
<v Speaker 2>takes to make you hole. Now, renew Home Innovations does

2540
02:13:42.800 --> 02:13:45.960
<v Speaker 2>beautiful shower conversions. Now they're customed to your movement. You

2541
02:13:46.000 --> 02:13:48.600
<v Speaker 2>tell them what you want, where you want it. Perimeter drains, benches,

2542
02:13:48.640 --> 02:13:52.239
<v Speaker 2>grab bars, soap dishes. Also, no doors if you don't

2543
02:13:52.239 --> 02:13:54.439
<v Speaker 2>want them, they'll go around a corner where the water

2544
02:13:54.520 --> 02:13:55.359
<v Speaker 2>doesn't escape.

2545
02:13:55.359 --> 02:13:58.119
<v Speaker 3>No doors, no thresholds to stumble over. They do it

2546
02:13:58.119 --> 02:13:59.000
<v Speaker 3>in two or three days.

2547
02:13:59.000 --> 02:14:02.520
<v Speaker 2>And guess what seventy two months to pay no interest

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<v Speaker 2>threeh three nine zero four two thousand. Renew home Innovations

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Hi, Tom Martinez. I want to thank all

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<v Speaker 2>of my listeners who are texting me his picture, his email,

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<v Speaker 2>his website. Deputy d also got a lot of information

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<v Speaker 2>for Bo. We're gonna like kick some ass here. God,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy when we all get together and.

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<v Speaker 3>Go after bad guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really rewarding. So Bo, we're gonna consolidate everything. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get them up on the sleeze brigade for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, what a day, What a day. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to remind people also that we've had a number of

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<v Speaker 2>different sleeze buckets that we talked to today, that other

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<v Speaker 2>one who sold the boat to that guy mcintree.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it from what are the.

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<v Speaker 10>And yes, Adam, yes, Adam.

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<v Speaker 2>So mckintree sells a boat and then says, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we got him on the air, Oh yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna we're gonna just call it good. Or the wife said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to call it good and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>let him have the title and he doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>pay the balance too, because the boat was not as

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<v Speaker 2>represented according to the buyer. Unfortunately, he did buy it

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<v Speaker 2>as is. They did promise to just walk away from it,

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<v Speaker 2>but now they say, no, we're going to see how

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<v Speaker 2>this goes in small claims court. They're just being jerks.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just being jerks, and so you know, here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually even threw his wife under the bus and

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't have all theorization. So we have so many

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<v Speaker 2>cases that we handle on the on the air, and

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<v Speaker 2>don't forget like just just some of these the things

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<v Speaker 2>we find out, like the Ticketmaster thing, we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this breach five million accounts or how many accounts, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like five million accounts were breached and people are transferring

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<v Speaker 2>tickets out of your name into someone else's name. If

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<v Speaker 2>you got a good concert, you got to watch out

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<v Speaker 2>for that. I would suggest you change your account right now,

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<v Speaker 2>your password and all of that. So thanks for being here.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, don't forget. You can call three oh three

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<v Speaker 2>Martino twenty four to seven and we help you. Three

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<v Speaker 2>oh three
