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Speaker 1: It's a great loved Hi again, everyone's Brian Howie. Welcome
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Speaker 1: and relationship podcast since twenty fifteen. I am back here
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Speaker 1: Very nice here this time of year. If you got
Speaker 1: some miles saved up, go to Boca Raton, Florida. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I I remember about eight years ago. I don't remember
Speaker 1: the circumstance. Maybe I got a resume or something and
Speaker 1: the name on the resume was like Amber or Brittany
Speaker 1: or something like that, and I just assumed that person
Speaker 1: was good looking because of the name, which is insane.
Speaker 1: You know, no offense any names out there. I just assumed,
Speaker 1: And there's no way that should correlate at all, that
Speaker 1: like no offense to a Martha or something like that,
Speaker 1: but that there was a name on it, and you
Speaker 1: just assume certain names go with attractive people. I don't
Speaker 1: know why that is. There's also a thing that I
Speaker 1: was thinking about that certain occupations are more attractive, and
Speaker 1: I don't think it has anything to do with money.
Speaker 1: And I'll get into the ones that I think from
Speaker 1: male perspectives like, oh wow, she must be hot because
Speaker 1: of that. And I've always been fascinated by the jobs
Speaker 1: that women are attracted to. So I'm bringing in a
Speaker 1: pro who has so many insight and all that. She
Speaker 1: has been on this podcast before. She's doing a lot
Speaker 1: of good work for what we eat and how we
Speaker 1: eat it. She's known as the farm Babe far and
Speaker 1: wide Michelle Miller. How are you, hey, good?
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: That's a thing right, Women are like, I wanna fireman,
Speaker 1: I want a cowboy, I want a farmer. I want
Speaker 1: a baseball player. I know a girl who married a
Speaker 1: baseball player because she thought he's gonna go pro. He
Speaker 1: doesn't go pro. He teaches high school baseball and coaches
Speaker 1: high school baseball. He teaches Jim. She's just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I always want to marry a baseball player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the chances of them making it are so slim.
Speaker 1: Right, So that's why I think I don't think it's
Speaker 1: about the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not necessarily, but there's definitely some sexiness to something
Speaker 2: like that. Okay, On the topic of names, numbers are
Speaker 2: usually really pretty, but what guys, Hi, Guys named Luke
Speaker 2: are really hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: Luke's are hot.
Speaker 1: I would think a Dylan is better looking than a
Speaker 1: Bob or Brian, you know, I think so. Like, I
Speaker 1: think that's so bizarre because you're just deeming. And most
Speaker 1: of the time the parents have chosen the child's name
Speaker 1: before they even born, not like they looked at him like,
Speaker 1: oh I got a hot daughter. She's Tiffany.
Speaker 2: Every Amber and Luke listening right now is so stuffy
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 1: I know. I think if you have a op opera name,
Speaker 1: you're just better look at in walks. McKay, that's a
Speaker 1: good looking guy's name, right, Yep. If your name McKay,
Speaker 1: I think you're better looking than if you're just Joe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Probably no offense to Joe. That's how screwed up we are.
Speaker 1: That's how we project hunting. I wish I was named McKay. Yeah, anyway, McKay.
Speaker 1: On the controls back there do fire fireman farmers. There
Speaker 1: was a show about farmers dating recently, right, I can
Speaker 1: talk all about it all right, we'll get into that
Speaker 1: in a second. Was that show called Farmer Wants a Wife?
Speaker 1: Farmer Wants a Wife and then one of the bachelor's
Speaker 1: souls was a farmer. Like, there's a thing. Do farmers
Speaker 1: make good money?
Speaker 2: They can, but generally speaking, not too much. I think.
Speaker 2: You know, you can look at it and say, oh,
Speaker 2: that farmer made a million dollars last year, but they
Speaker 2: don't tell you that the input costs were like one
Speaker 2: point one million.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, right, And you know that
Speaker 1: subsidies and dinner. But supposely if you have land, you
Speaker 1: have a farm, you have property, you have animals, something
Speaker 1: that is attractive. I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like asset rich and cash poor is
Speaker 2: generally how you can put it. You know, like if
Speaker 2: they sold out, they'd probably you know, make millions of dollars,
Speaker 2: but it's all tied up in the farm and they're
Speaker 2: implements their tractors and stuff. And there's a lot of
Speaker 2: myths around the subsidy thing too, Like I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people think that they get all these crazy subsidies,
Speaker 2: but that's really not true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that if if there's a bad rainy season,
Speaker 1: or there's a drought, they just get a check anyway
Speaker 1: from the government. Is that not srue?
Speaker 2: Not necessarily, No, it's it kind of varies by region,
Speaker 2: but generally speaking, it's like a cost share program for
Speaker 2: like their crop insurance, so like they have to carry
Speaker 2: these massive crop insurance policies if their crop is damaged,
Speaker 2: but that's really expensive, and then the government might say, well,
Speaker 2: like we'll pay for part of that, or they might
Speaker 2: do like if they're doing a conservation program, they might say, well,
Speaker 2: it's twenty five dollars an acre to do cover crops,
Speaker 2: but we're going to give you fifteen of that just
Speaker 2: because it's good for the environment and the planet and stuff.
Speaker 2: So they're trying to like encourage more environmentalism.
Speaker 1: See Great Love listeners. You come here for the love
Speaker 1: and we give you farm subsidy information. You never know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get here. You're a female. Is it
Speaker 1: something about women? On one hand, have you know, preferences
Speaker 1: on whether they did a white collar guy or blue
Speaker 1: collar guy or whatever, But almost overwhelmingly they are attracted physically,
Speaker 1: sexually or whatever to the blue collar guy, to the
Speaker 1: guy who can get a little dirty, the guy who
Speaker 1: can work with a tool set, the guy who's not me,
Speaker 1: the guy, that guy who can fix shit. Is that
Speaker 1: something that goes back to he can take care of
Speaker 1: not just me, but whatever I need? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. I think it's so sexy. And I think
Speaker 2: to it depends upon how you're raised. Maybe, you know, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true. What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on women are attracted to men like their fathers.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's truth to that, because that's something
Speaker 2: people say.
Speaker 1: I don't know. My dad was an interesting dude. So
Speaker 1: he was an engineer background worked at IBM, which is
Speaker 1: the traditional dark suit, white shirt, buttoned up as you know,
Speaker 1: Fortune five hundred company or whatever. But he could also
Speaker 1: build and fix anything.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 1: I got neither of those skills from him or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I always have been like, wow, I don't I
Speaker 1: was always like, where did he learn that? How did
Speaker 1: he learn that?
Speaker 2: Under that?
Speaker 1: Why is there something that he knows how to do
Speaker 1: with tools? He didn't go to, you know, And it's
Speaker 1: just the way his brain worked that I think he
Speaker 1: had to like doing it and doing it. I think
Speaker 1: that probably is an attractive attribute that somebody. You know,
Speaker 1: there's something I'm pretty good at figuring shit out, but
Speaker 1: I'm not pretty good at, you know, waxing a boat,
Speaker 1: you know, Right, But there's something be said, like you
Speaker 1: see a man who has a a very defined occupation
Speaker 1: and a very unique skill set and is something like
Speaker 1: I am going to physically work hard. I think that's
Speaker 1: a good thing. If you have a job where you
Speaker 1: have to get up at early, I think that's attractive
Speaker 1: and a human being because the laziness isn't gonna kick in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. And you know, I think
Speaker 2: about like the way I was raised, Right, if you
Speaker 2: think about women are attracted to men like their fathers,
Speaker 2: Like my dad is pretty cool. Like my dad can
Speaker 2: do anything, Like he's really hard work or he's retired.
Speaker 2: He can't sit still. The guy's like seventy years old
Speaker 2: and he just rode his bike for seventeen miles, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like he's just he's a beast,
Speaker 2: like in the best way possible. And I'm like, I
Speaker 2: need to find a guy that's cool like my dad,
Speaker 2: that's like funny and works hard and it's smart and
Speaker 2: like takes care of me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So is that what's about it's about the getting up
Speaker 1: in the working hard is ambition? Is ambition the word sexy? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it is too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, you know, two of my exes are farmers,
Speaker 2: right and yeah, and I'm talking to another farmer now,
Speaker 2: Apparently I have a type. And they're all corn and
Speaker 2: soybean guys, by the way, Like, what the heck?
Speaker 1: Oh, so you have a specific type within a type.
Speaker 1: I mean, not that I'm trying to be you're like
Speaker 1: cattle person.
Speaker 2: Well no, I mean they've raised cattle too, so yeah,
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: They're very talented farmers. Gorn zybe get the milk out
Speaker 1: of the cow has some attractiveness beef cattle.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of dairy cows are milked by
Speaker 2: robots nowadays.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. They are. So a guy who
Speaker 1: deals a cattle guy is both a farmer and a cowboy.
Speaker 2: So no, not necessarily, that's just so like a rancher
Speaker 2: would be like somebody that has thousands of acres where
Speaker 2: they're more pasturrais like a cow calf like where they're
Speaker 2: but beef cattle farmers are more like feed lots where
Speaker 2: you're finishing them out for Marketwaight, and then you also
Speaker 2: have cowboys, which are the guys that check on the cows.
Speaker 2: So you have a ranch, the cowboys, the guy on
Speaker 2: the horse.
Speaker 1: A farmer's not a rancher, but a rancher is kind
Speaker 1: of a farmer. They're both working land.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely some differences, but it's yeah
Speaker 2: six and one half time.
Speaker 1: So if you see a guy in a sports car
Speaker 1: or you see a guy on a two hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars tractor, you're turned on by the tractor.
Speaker 2: The sports car is fine too, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess I.
Speaker 1: Guess what I'm getting at is, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: about the money. I think it's about the what we said,
Speaker 1: the ambition. It's about working hard. I think that is
Speaker 1: a attribute that is positive in anything because it means
Speaker 1: I can count on this person to be motivated by themselves.
Speaker 1: They are motivated to get up in the morning, get
Speaker 1: a job done, do that. I always like that, always,
Speaker 1: I always. You know, there's a lot of guys who
Speaker 1: are very lazy and sort of fall ass backwards into
Speaker 1: a lot of money, especially in you know, I was
Speaker 1: in Hollywood a long long time. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: people who are morons and they fail upward and they
Speaker 1: get money. And if I'm a woman, I almost said girl,
Speaker 1: and everybody gets mad when I say girl. A girl,
Speaker 1: you're initially attracted to maybe the flash of it, or
Speaker 1: the cash of it, or the watch or the car
Speaker 1: or the house. But is there a core There is
Speaker 1: there a core work ethic that's going to been like
Speaker 1: when we are married and we have three kids and
Speaker 1: we're struggling here, that you're going to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to get it done. Yeah, And I'm not sure
Speaker 1: Hollywood agent's doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing too about farming and
Speaker 2: agriculture is that they're very family oriented people, which is
Speaker 2: also very sexy, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 2: like they there's not a lot of good looking single
Speaker 2: farmers out there because they all get married when they're
Speaker 2: twenty and they have like one hundred kids, you know, So.
Speaker 1: There's there's oh they're not single, but they're good looking
Speaker 1: but married.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's a lot of good looking, like married
Speaker 2: farmers out there for sure. Yeah. Like I go on
Speaker 2: farm tours all the time, and I'm like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: so much. It's so easy to listen to him talk
Speaker 2: because we're also so easy on the eyes, but just
Speaker 2: nice guys.
Speaker 1: So I drive when I drive through America and I
Speaker 1: see these farms, I'm like, where do these kids go
Speaker 1: to school? Where? Cause you seem like you're very isolated
Speaker 1: where you go to You're not going to Trader Joe's.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're going to the store. Like
Speaker 1: where you're going, you're fairly isolated. So the family unit
Speaker 1: probably matters. The people that you interact with are the
Speaker 1: people you're working with on your farm and the family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where I was farming, I used to farm in
Speaker 2: northeast Iowa, and there's so many small towns that the
Speaker 2: name of the high school was called MFL Marmack, which
Speaker 2: was Minona, Farmersburg, Gluayna, Marquette.
Speaker 1: And McGregor everybody combine.
Speaker 2: It's literally like five little farm towns. And yeah, shout
Speaker 2: out to anybody from and.
Speaker 1: If you have a farm and it's been, it's been
Speaker 1: you know in your family for generations. You're not just moving,
Speaker 1: you're not just packing enough. And like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I'd like to live in Hartford.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's stability.
Speaker 1: There is stability and you're like, this is what I'm
Speaker 1: going to do. It's my job to raise the family.
Speaker 1: I could see how that can be attractive. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: problem is the numbers. You're not. There's not a nightclub
Speaker 1: full of like fifty farmers, right.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Or if you do see a bunch of farmers, they
Speaker 1: probably worked their ass off all day and they're drinking
Speaker 1: nine beers at five o'clock.
Speaker 2: There is some truth to that too.
Speaker 1: Well that it was funny.
Speaker 2: You know my ex Doug that I was with for
Speaker 2: like seven or eight years, we were farmers together and
Speaker 2: that's when I started my farm Babe social media platform.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean he met me in Florida right,
Speaker 2: like I was his bartender. He was on vacation. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: how do you meet women? You meet?
Speaker 1: Right? How do you mean you know? You know you're
Speaker 1: fairly I say, it's like guys who work on a
Speaker 1: on a ship. We're in Florida right now. If you
Speaker 1: look out on the coast here, there's these big freighters.
Speaker 1: How many people are on those? And how long are
Speaker 1: they on those?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are they just sitting out there for months? Is it
Speaker 1: eight dudes? Is it fifties at one? Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And then they come back to the land and
Speaker 2: they just spend stupid money at the bars.
Speaker 1: Now do farmers have a lot of time off?
Speaker 2: It depends what they farm and when. If you are
Speaker 2: not a livestock person, then yeah, you can get away
Speaker 2: like in the winter, you know. But uh, it depends
Speaker 2: climate matters, what they're what they're doing matters. I remember
Speaker 2: so my ex and I Doug he uh, he actually
Speaker 2: got rid of his livestock. This is the first year
Speaker 2: that he hasn't had livestock, which is so weird. He
Speaker 2: and I are still friends, and I was in Iowan
Speaker 2: a business trip, like I don't know, a month or
Speaker 2: so ago, and I popped in and it was so
Speaker 2: weird to see no animals. But He's like, yeah, but
Speaker 2: I have a little bit more time. I'm getting close
Speaker 2: to retirement. Like I'm like, so you can do whatever
Speaker 2: you want now in the winter. But you know, when
Speaker 2: he when we had livestock though, it was like also
Speaker 2: we were raising lambs and calves, and there is nothing
Speaker 2: sexier than like this big, rugged, strong, calloused hand farm boy,
Speaker 2: like handling.
Speaker 1: Water delicate calves.
Speaker 2: No, not flaughtering, just like like nursing or helping them
Speaker 2: like when a when a newborn, when a newborn lamb
Speaker 2: is like struggling and is sick, and he's like out
Speaker 2: there at two in the morning with like bottle feeding
Speaker 2: this lamb that's struggling. You know, it's really sweet. Like
Speaker 2: we had we would bring lambs into the house like
Speaker 2: by the fireplace to warm them up or like take
Speaker 2: care of them. And you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of there's a lot of sensitive things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Viticulture, Yeah, somebody who owns a winery or they
Speaker 1: a farmer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a grape grower. Yeah, they would call him growers.
Speaker 1: Now, somebody brought this up to me on a podcast
Speaker 1: I guessed on They said that they like men in
Speaker 1: those occupations. I think they were a bourbon maker because
Speaker 1: they have to have incredible patience for payoff. A bourbon
Speaker 1: guy might have to wait years to see if the
Speaker 1: fruits of their labor turned in anything. Same with the winemaker,
Speaker 1: same with a farmer. That you are not getting immediate
Speaker 1: result of your labor and patience is a very good
Speaker 1: quality to have in a relationship, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it depends again, it depends what you're growing
Speaker 2: when where you know where you're selling it to, you know,
Speaker 2: I know, I was just out at a vineyard in
Speaker 2: Washington and they were selling something. They were making their owns.
Speaker 2: They were able to process it right away. But then
Speaker 2: they also sell direct, so they would sell off to
Speaker 2: the distributors, which would then go off to like you know,
Speaker 2: like a cupcake wine or you know, something like that.
Speaker 1: So all right, I got to take a quick break
Speaker 1: so we can pay for wine and things around here.
Speaker 1: I am here with the farm babe Mi Selle Miller.
Speaker 1: We were talking about what people do and why we
Speaker 1: like it, and I've got a little interesting point to
Speaker 1: make when we come back after the break, right after
Speaker 1: this and we are back, So if somebody farmers are
Speaker 1: also there's science involved. They're very educating. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of education that goes on. You learn a
Speaker 1: lot growing up in it, but you there is a
Speaker 1: lot to go you're a meteorology, there is all kinds
Speaker 1: of things in there, and you have to balance it
Speaker 1: with instinct and you have to balance it. So you know,
Speaker 1: we're talking about farm because that's your specialty. But there's
Speaker 1: something attractive about somebody who has mastered a craft, no
Speaker 1: matter what that is. Yeah. The old film critic Roger
Speaker 1: Ebert once said that one of the most interesting things
Speaker 1: in a movie that's underrated is to watch something do
Speaker 1: a job. Somebody do a job that you're really not
Speaker 1: familiar with, like a safe cracker, like a glass blower,
Speaker 1: somebody who's like, I don't know how how they do that.
Speaker 1: I never seen them do it. And it's you know,
Speaker 1: they spend six minutes in a movie showing that, and
Speaker 1: we're all fascinated.
Speaker 2: By stuff like that, right, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: If somebody went and spent a day at a farm,
Speaker 1: they would have no idea how this happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so cool.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I love what I do. I get to share their
Speaker 2: stories and create the content around where our food comes from.
Speaker 1: Now one issue I have where our food comes from?
Speaker 1: And again this is related to dating here. I go
Speaker 1: to a farmer's market or a street fair anywhere in
Speaker 1: the world, and it is cheap. Farmers market in America
Speaker 1: is the most expensive place to buy food.
Speaker 2: Why is that There's usually a lot more costs involved
Speaker 2: in like the processing and the shipping and the packaging,
Speaker 2: and then there's all.
Speaker 1: Something so there is when you send it to the store, though,
Speaker 1: So why is a farmer's like the farmers market is
Speaker 1: because Americans are fooled into thinking fresh means more money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's some truth to that too, but
Speaker 2: you know, it's like they also have to hold licenses
Speaker 2: and certifications, and then you have to pay your market
Speaker 2: fees and there's a lot more money, and then with
Speaker 2: your sales and marketing, your social media, your time, you know,
Speaker 2: but your one business running all of that. Whereas if
Speaker 2: you're mass producing it and you're selling it to just
Speaker 2: a wholesaler, it's like a one stop and they're buying
Speaker 2: everything for like cheap, and that's how they're able to
Speaker 2: mass feed the world.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason why I'm a fan of a farmer's
Speaker 1: market is not just because I'm fat and I like
Speaker 1: free samples. I think it's a good date thing.
Speaker 2: It is such a great date thing.
Speaker 1: It's such an underrated date thing. People love farmers markets, yeah,
Speaker 1: because not only do you see things you're familiar with.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, fried donuts, but you're like, what is that?
Speaker 1: And the people who work the farmer's markets are really
Speaker 1: both passionate and knowledgeable about things. You can learn things
Speaker 1: at a farmer market. You can try things at a
Speaker 1: farmer's market. You can learn what kind of stimuli turns
Speaker 1: on your partner or date at a farmer's market. It's
Speaker 1: a really good thing to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, you know, I'm from Wisconsin, so just take
Speaker 2: me to a cheese stand and I'm set.
Speaker 1: That's true. Hotter than a girl at a cheese stand. Yes,
Speaker 1: I agree. Sampling and you know, be a little more
Speaker 1: generous with the toothpick farmers market people. I feel like
Speaker 1: they've cut back on the samples and a lot of
Speaker 1: things inflation. Yeah, like don't touch that. I'm like, can
Speaker 1: I try this? No? No, But it's a good date
Speaker 1: spot all right. Back to the Farmer show that was
Speaker 1: on TV. Who were the women that were supposed to
Speaker 1: be on the show? Women who always dreamed of being
Speaker 1: a farmer or they were it was farmer first, like farmer,
Speaker 1: find me a wife, and then these women had no
Speaker 1: knowledge of farm life.
Speaker 2: Most of them had no knowledge of farm life. And
Speaker 2: actually they interviewed me to be one of the daters
Speaker 2: on that show. Oh really Yeah, Actually the producers reached
Speaker 2: out to me and they were like, hey, we're looking
Speaker 2: we're casting this new show and we're looking to cast
Speaker 2: tall good looking single farm boys do you know of any,
Speaker 2: to which I responded, yes, I know all five of them.
Speaker 2: Like is it that bad? I'm like, yeah, that's pretty bad.
Speaker 2: I'm like, they're farmers, they get married when they're twenty,
Speaker 2: they have one hundred kids, and like that's it. There's
Speaker 2: like no good looking, tall single farmers. And they were like, well, well,
Speaker 2: if you refer one to us and they get cast,
Speaker 2: will pay you a referral feed. They they're like, we
Speaker 2: see you have a really big following with farmers, and
Speaker 2: like like yeah, you know. So I posted on my
Speaker 2: social media and I did throw maybe about twenty thirty
Speaker 2: guys up the ladder to the producers, well there you go,
Speaker 2: and uh and then I pocketed one for myself, who
Speaker 2: turned out to be a total douchebag, but that's another story.
Speaker 2: So so then all these guys, none of them made it.
Speaker 2: But I watched the show, and personally I didn't really
Speaker 2: find the guys attractive, like the farmers, Like they weren't
Speaker 2: really my type, you know, Like I like more of
Speaker 2: like the tall pretty boy kind of thing, you know.
Speaker 2: But anyway, they they interviewed me to be one of
Speaker 2: the daters and I don't know.
Speaker 1: My farmers are pretty boys, well, like you know, the tall,
Speaker 1: broad shoulder Midwest, like you know, like, okay, I got yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of my axes.
Speaker 2: They're pretty hot, you know, the good the channing Chris
Speaker 2: Soles is really hot. Yeah, he lived like a half
Speaker 2: hour away from me. Okay, yeah, I met him a
Speaker 2: few times actually. But so anyway, what was I saying?
Speaker 2: So the daters and I was like, I'm freaking perfect
Speaker 2: for the show, Like, but no, they didn't pick me
Speaker 2: because they picked the Yes.
Speaker 1: There was a show on uh a while ago on TBS,
Speaker 1: and I know because my friend Marissa was on the
Speaker 1: show called was It Outback Jack? Where it was like
Speaker 1: The Bachelor but for some rugged, ausy guy who like
Speaker 1: killed snakes with his bare hands. And I'm like, are
Speaker 1: the girls just signing up to be on a reality
Speaker 1: show or is there some fetish that like I want
Speaker 1: that level of ruggness. Probably a bit of both. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's why like the farmer thing there is, I mean,
Speaker 1: is far what's the what's the dating site? Is it
Speaker 1: a real thing? Oh?
Speaker 2: Like farmers only dot com?
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that a real thing?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I've got a funny story about that.
Speaker 1: Too, So farmers only dot Com. That's women who really
Speaker 1: don't know anything about farm life and they're like, I
Speaker 1: am I have this fantasy. Or it's people who understand
Speaker 1: the value and the attributes of the farmer, which we
Speaker 1: talked about earlier, or is it probably been of both.
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both. And I
Speaker 2: think there's some women out there, myself included, who genuinely
Speaker 2: would love to meet and marry a farmer, Like I'm
Speaker 2: still on that mission for my future husband.
Speaker 1: Right, what is the life of a farm wife? Oh man?
Speaker 1: Well for me, you gather the eggs.
Speaker 2: Me maybe, okay. I mean when I dated the farmers,
Speaker 2: you know, we were very much a good team. You know,
Speaker 2: like I'm kind of a night owl, so I would
Speaker 2: check the calves and the lambs into you know, midnight
Speaker 2: too in the morning, and then he would pick up
Speaker 2: the five am shift, and so we're kind of just teams.
Speaker 2: We farmed together, and then I did farmers' markets and
Speaker 2: sold beef and lamb direct.
Speaker 1: So I think if you're working with the farmer together together,
Speaker 1: I see that. But if you're just a farmer's wife
Speaker 1: and he's doing the farmer. I think that's incredibly boring.
Speaker 2: Well, most of the time they're moms, so like they're
Speaker 2: the farmers wives because they're taking care of kids because
Speaker 2: there's a lot a lot of it's very family oriented.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like stay at home moms that take care
Speaker 2: and raise the kids around the family. Maybe they're homeschooling
Speaker 2: their kids. Homeschools common in small.
Speaker 1: Towns because the farm the schools too far.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or like they raise the kids on the farm,
Speaker 2: you know, so they're homeschooled because they're ranchers also, or
Speaker 2: they're you know, harvesters or whatever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so the farm, that's that's what you want,
Speaker 1: the farm wife fantasy with the kids, or you just
Speaker 1: want to watch your man rise to the rooster and
Speaker 1: have at it at five a sounds.
Speaker 2: Good, No, I mean, I just love agriculture. It's just
Speaker 2: my passion. So for me, I want to marry a
Speaker 2: farmer because I love the farm life and that's what
Speaker 2: I do and that's who I am. And like I
Speaker 2: love animals, I love plants, I love everything about farming
Speaker 2: is just who I am and it's such my passion.
Speaker 1: You love animals, but the purpose of the animals as
Speaker 1: you meat. It's a circle of life, I suppose fitest
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: People used to ask me that at farmer's markets are like,
Speaker 2: how can you Well, first of all, I think people
Speaker 2: think when you eat lamb, they think it's like this
Speaker 2: adorable little snugly thing. But lambs are actually about a
Speaker 2: year old. They look like a grown sheep, and so
Speaker 2: they're not. We're not like people think, you're just liketering
Speaker 2: these little snugly it's not. It's not a Disney movie,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But like they're they're big.
Speaker 2: But you know, I love cats and dogs just like
Speaker 2: I love cattle and sheep, and like they all die, right,
Speaker 2: so we love the animals, but eventually everything dies, and
Speaker 2: then some die and they just come with us.
Speaker 1: These people, people who are in that business, even people
Speaker 1: who are in horse world, horse racing, they learn very on.
Speaker 1: These are not pets, right, yeah, And you know we're
Speaker 1: only sixty seventy years into dogs being allowed in the
Speaker 1: house in they were working animals for most of civilization.
Speaker 1: Only sort of during after World War Two did people
Speaker 1: like have dogs as like their real pet and sleep
Speaker 1: in the bed. North These were outside animals. These were
Speaker 1: these are purpose working breeds. That's what they have. So
Speaker 1: you can like animals, and you can I like animals
Speaker 1: because they taste fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah me too. Yeah absolutely, but you bet your ass.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna respect the shit out of them when I'm
Speaker 2: taking care of them.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite animal? The cow?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, And we owe them all the respect
Speaker 2: in the world for And it's not just meat, you know,
Speaker 2: we get cosmetics, lotion, soaps like hey sun, let's toss
Speaker 2: around the old pig skin, you know, like footballs. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like we it's all animal agriculture.
Speaker 1: It is. And I think the animal would be happy
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed them so much.
Speaker 2: Exactly all the way to the leather in your car.
Speaker 1: So you could not date? Are there any this is
Speaker 1: probably really oxy Warren. Have you ever met a vegan farmer?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Could you date a vegan farmer?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there are other people just lifestyles
Speaker 1: or are there people that who do it that are
Speaker 1: like I know how the sausage gets made, No pun,
Speaker 1: I'm not eating what I cook. I mean there probably
Speaker 1: is something like that, like I know what the chicken taste,
Speaker 1: you know, I see it all. Yeah, I do see
Speaker 1: the slaughter of it, and so I'm like a mouse
Speaker 1: seeing it all.
Speaker 2: But you know, a lot of the negativity around, like
Speaker 2: slaughter videos and stuff are is usually kind of like
Speaker 2: vegan propaganda type stuff or like it's out outdated, or
Speaker 2: it's from another country, or like they paint it to
Speaker 2: they make it look way worse than it is. When
Speaker 2: you actually tour slaughterhouses, which I have. I've been to
Speaker 2: some of the largest, some of the smallest, you name it.
Speaker 2: I know the process forwards and backwards, and it is
Speaker 2: extremely humane. Like if there's one thing I wish more
Speaker 2: people understood, it's like and it's common sense. Like from
Speaker 2: a business perspective, you want to take care of that animal.
Speaker 2: You want it to go through a very low stress
Speaker 2: environment because it makes the best meat. Like you want
Speaker 2: to make a good product, Like a guy who builds
Speaker 2: a table isn't going to scratch up his table and
Speaker 2: make it, you know, like and then try to sell it.
Speaker 2: So you want that low stress, that good genetics that
Speaker 2: like treated very well, managed very well, because ultimately you
Speaker 2: can get more money for your stake. Right, So it's
Speaker 2: it's all common sense as a business to do the
Speaker 2: best we can, and it's it's a pretty human process.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what is your other than the knowledge of it?
Speaker 1: So the knowledge of you know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: wanted to date what they know. A lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, I work in finance. I want to have
Speaker 1: a to finance. Do you feel when you are dating
Speaker 1: these farmer farmer dudes I believe is the correct term.
Speaker 1: Do you feel that you're either have to prove or
Speaker 1: getting challenged on your farm cred a? No?
Speaker 2: No, not not as the farm babe. No, because they're
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, it's the farm baby.
Speaker 1: They know you know your shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been doing this almost a decade now, So like.
Speaker 1: Does that matter to them though? Or they're just like
Speaker 1: like if you sit down, if you're on a date
Speaker 1: with a farmer and you're the farm babe, are you
Speaker 1: talking about farm stuff? You talked about real housewives.
Speaker 2: Stuff mostly farm stuff, and it sounds kind of funny,
Speaker 2: but like.
Speaker 1: I think it's how hot is that? Do you? I mean?
Speaker 2: I love it. I could talk farming all day. It's
Speaker 2: my passion. I feel like sometimes though, guys get a
Speaker 2: little bit intimidated by that though. Right, Like, I was
Speaker 2: randomly out at this bar and this guy was talking
Speaker 2: to me, and I said, oh, what do you do
Speaker 2: for a living? Kind of stuff? And he told me
Speaker 2: that he was a farmer, and I was like, oh, like,
Speaker 2: I'm in social media, I'm an advocate for farmers. He says,
Speaker 2: oh okay, And then I told him my platform and
Speaker 2: he had never heard of me before. Well, then that
Speaker 2: night he went home and googled me. And then the
Speaker 2: next time I talked to him, you know, he texted me, Oh,
Speaker 2: my god, you're a really big deal. Holy shit. And
Speaker 2: he was all like nervous. And we went on our
Speaker 2: first date and he was like asking me all these questions.
Speaker 2: He's like like he was like star struck a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Is it tough to balance, though, your your credibility as
Speaker 1: an advocate for the industry with your very open about
Speaker 1: your farmer fetish farmer fetish.
Speaker 2: I don't need to date a farmer, I prefer but
Speaker 2: I don't need to shoot my last one.
Speaker 1: So it's sort of like, you know, somebody who's a
Speaker 1: woman sports reporter. She's told not to date the athletes,
Speaker 1: but a lot of them end up doing it because
Speaker 1: they got attracted to sports because they got attracted to.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, my ex, my most recent ex
Speaker 2: was a was a professional golfer, and so that was
Speaker 2: fun because but then the more I thought about it,
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, that's agriculture, like golfish grass.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking at the turf Grass Association in January, so
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: A greenskeeper is theoretically a farmer.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's all agriculture. And so now I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: looking deeper into like can I get more into the
Speaker 2: sports industry, Like can I like promote turf grass farming?
Speaker 2: That's neat?
Speaker 1: Does a fisherman have the same appeal as a farmer?
Speaker 1: Is it sort of the same right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Maybe, but how.
Speaker 1: I don't know how good is the farm.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, like, I love the
Speaker 2: smell of dairies and beef, but I don't really like
Speaker 2: the smell of fish.
Speaker 1: So salmon, you're out.
Speaker 2: If it smells like trout, back out, Okay.
Speaker 1: So that's oh my god. Yeah, I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of women like farmer, I don't hear
Speaker 1: too many who are like I want to date the
Speaker 1: commercial fishermen. I think that could be the smell unless you'd.
Speaker 2: Be gone all the time, and I feel like it
Speaker 2: would like I don't know, I just get visions of
Speaker 2: seasick and like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird that appeal.
Speaker 2: It's cool, but I don't know. I feel like I
Speaker 2: never see him. Like it's you know, with a farmer,
Speaker 2: I can be out there in the combine or tractor
Speaker 2: with them, you know, we can farm together. But with
Speaker 2: the fisherman, it's like, am I just going to be
Speaker 2: out on this fishing boat all day?
Speaker 1: So a date a farmer if he tells the girl
Speaker 1: like you want to go for riding my tractor, I'm in.
Speaker 1: But women, that's.
Speaker 2: All right, I love that I could do that all day.
Speaker 2: And you know what, nowadays these tractors and combines are
Speaker 2: so expensive. You know, nowadays, get a combine like half
Speaker 2: a million dollars, cotton pickers a million dollars. Ladies, got
Speaker 2: it's yourself.
Speaker 1: A co You don't need the badley. You need to
Speaker 1: go finding guys at the John Deere. Go to the
Speaker 1: john hang out the John Deere dealer and the ones
Speaker 1: who are dropping half a million dollars on some piece
Speaker 1: of equipment that's your boy.
Speaker 2: There was a great meme out there are a bunch
Speaker 2: of like stripper looking type chicks and these skimpy little
Speaker 2: dresses there Amber. They were all hanging off this combine
Speaker 2: and it was like they just found out this costs
Speaker 2: more than a BMW.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there's a farmer named Dirk. He's probably
Speaker 1: beefa right.
Speaker 2: But they're so expensive. But the good news is that
Speaker 2: with that expense comes really comfortable buddy seats along. I
Speaker 2: got a nice little air seat. You got heating and
Speaker 2: air conditioning, nice and cooling. You know it's it's it's we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna let you. We're gonna let you plug your farm
Speaker 1: Bay World in a second. But you have been on
Speaker 1: this podcast before. I believe that you did play worst
Speaker 1: date or first date with us, but that was a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and I'm sure you've had a
Speaker 1: lot of bad dates since then. No offense to anybody.
Speaker 1: If you've been dating, you've had some bad dates or
Speaker 1: good dates. So give me either your worst date or
Speaker 1: your best first date that you have either ever had
Speaker 1: or had since your last appearance. Oh, great love debate,
Speaker 1: I've got a good one, all right.
Speaker 2: So last time I did my best first. This time
Speaker 2: I'll do my most recent worst, which was this was
Speaker 2: literally the most recent date I went on. Was so,
Speaker 2: I went on two dates with this guy who was
Speaker 2: originally from Morocco. And the dates were good. He was nice,
Speaker 2: we had a great, great time, but it was he
Speaker 2: was two into me too fast. Like it was like
Speaker 2: two dates and he's like, oh baby, you know, texting
Speaker 2: me every morning, good morning. I can't wait to see you.
Speaker 2: I said, hey, I'm leaving and go on like this
Speaker 2: month long business trip. He's like, I will wait for you, baby.
Speaker 2: Like I was like, okay, this is a little suspect.
Speaker 2: Like he's like, you've known me for four hours, Like
Speaker 2: chill out, you know, Oh my god. I mean i'd
Speaker 2: want to marry me after four hours also, but just kidding.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so it just seemed like red flag all
Speaker 2: over it. So, you know, there's these social media groups
Speaker 2: out there right full of single women that like So
Speaker 2: I post about this guy on one of the groups
Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, I went on a couple
Speaker 2: of dates with this guy. Something seems off. These women
Speaker 2: came out of the woodwork. So come to find out,
Speaker 2: he gave me a fake name, a fake age. He
Speaker 2: told me that he had never been married. There is
Speaker 2: this one girl in the comment section who like she
Speaker 2: or she DMed me his marriage license. This other woman
Speaker 2: in the comment section was like, he's my ex, and
Speaker 2: this other girl was like, he's my ex. And they
Speaker 2: found out that he was cheating on both of them
Speaker 2: at the same time in the comments, and this other
Speaker 2: girl was like, I just broke up with him on Friday,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm talking to you.
Speaker 1: Were able to find it facebook dating.
Speaker 2: This was Facebook dating, which normally I feel like is
Speaker 2: one of the more safe options. But so I found
Speaker 2: all this out and then I guess and there was
Speaker 2: probably like a dozen women that were like run right,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, he gave me a name, and he
Speaker 2: gave me fake name, and he gave me like a
Speaker 2: fake Moroccan name, and I mean it was so bad.
Speaker 2: And so then I guess a couple of the girls
Speaker 2: went back and told him off and then he like
Speaker 2: blocked me. He must have figured out like that. I
Speaker 2: was the one that figured it out, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it was only two dates. I wasn't invested, right, Like,
Speaker 2: all I did was kiss the guy, like no big deal.
Speaker 2: I was nothing. I wasn't I wasn't invested, but so
Speaker 2: I wasn't like my feelings weren't hurt. But I was like,
Speaker 2: he blocked me on everything.
Speaker 1: Well, this guy's bad guy. However, for every guy that
Speaker 1: you guys complain about that they don't text me the
Speaker 1: next day and they don't and you're like, he told
Speaker 1: me he liked me too much, that was a that
Speaker 1: was a bad thing, or because you sent some bullshit.
Speaker 2: I sense bullshit. Yeah, no, I love that. I do
Speaker 2: love a nice guy, but he took it to such
Speaker 2: an extreme level. Like I like, I like a guy
Speaker 2: that sends a good morning text every day. I like
Speaker 2: a guy that shows interest, that's really find But he
Speaker 2: was just like, oh, baby baby, Like you know, I
Speaker 2: was just something seems off about this guy. I had
Speaker 2: to trust my intuition and I was right there.
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