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let's dive in to today's episode. I'd like to welcome

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to the show doctor Joe Furman. Hey do, Doctor Furman,

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doing great. Thanks, Thank you so much for coming on

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the show. You were an inspiration to me when I

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first started going down my plant based, nutrient dense diet

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change of over a decade ago now, and you've been

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tiresly working at trying to get the word out, so

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hopefully we could get the word out even a little

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bit more in today's episode. So I do truly appreciate

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you coming on my pleasure. So, first questions, how did

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you start this journey into the understandings that you came

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to with nutrient dense foods and plant based foods and

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all that kind of stuff from I mean, I'm assuming

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you didn't start off this way, that you kind of

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discovered this along the way.

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Speaker 2: No, I started this in my childhood. Actually, Okay, you know,

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my father was overweight and sickly, and I remember most

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of them spending when I was younger, as a young

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teenager driving around with he couldn't even sit up. He

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had to lie in the back of a wagon on

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a mattress. We drove him from doctor to doctor, you know,

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to doctors, doctor visits and things. So he started picking

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up books and as I did, to try to improve

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his health. I think it was twelve or thirteen years

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old at the time. I think the first book we

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read was You Don't Have to Be Sick by Jack Duntrupp.

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He was a producer of Apolon Cassidy in the nineteen

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fifties or something, or The Lone Ranger or something, you

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know what I mean. Died at the age of ninety six.

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He had two heart attacks before the age of fifty.

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He was almost but he lived to be ninety six.

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I played him singles tennis when he was in his nineties.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he would have lived longer if he wasn't

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so sick when he was younger. But I'm saying the

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average lifespan of humans should be between at least ninety

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six and one hundred and seven, you know, for taking

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good care of our health. But then we started reading

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a lot of doctor Shelton's works from Herbert Shelton, who

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wrote most of his works between nineteen thirty and nineteen

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sixty and so before I was born in fifty three,

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Shelton wrote a bunch of books and wrote a newsletter

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for the American Natural Hygiene Society wrote he wrote a

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monthly like magazine too. So my fought so we started.

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So my father changed his diet and lost weight and

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got healthier, and then we started eating differently as a kid.

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And then I was on the United States. I was

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a competitive figure skater. I was actually third in the

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world in pairs figure skating in the nineteen seventies. I

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was second in the United States in the nineteen seventy

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three national Championships. So I was always in training, you know,

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trying not to get sick, trying to get better stamina

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and strength. So we started cleaning. We're eating very healthy,

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very clean. You know, we'd bring the Vita mix and

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make smoothies and sad blended salads and so and have you.

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bathtub full of food in the back of the car.

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were training all day long. You know, running and lifting

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weights and going to classes and skating hours each day.

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now I've advised a lot of world class Olympic athletes

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and how to never get six. They don't have to

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miss their training and miss their events, and you know,

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how to maintain performance. But it started out that way,

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a combination of my father's illnesses and myself and my

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sister trying to maintain and achieve greater stamina and performance.

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and all these top tennis players in the world, they

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pay very close attention to their diet to maintain Venus

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for with her Chouldgren syndromes and with her autoimmune condition,

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and she changed her diet to what is like, which

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is essentially the neutritarian diet, and got well and got

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back playing tennis again. And a lot of these athletes

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are prolonging their careers and maintaining their youthfulness by aging

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slower by following either what I'm doing and utilizing my

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program or something similative to it. Even Alonzo, do you

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know who Alonzo Mourning is, of course.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a Miami Heat guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had when he was ending his career on

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the Miami Heat, he developed kidney disease and his doctor

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contacted me and Alonzo and his doctor. I gave him

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a diety so he would get rid of his kidney,

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so he would approve his kidney function and get rid

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of his autoimmune condition. And he made a complete recovery.

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He'd got in great health again and now he's even

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thinner now and in better shape health, and he was

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towards the end of his playing career, you know what

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Speaker 1: So, so someone like Tom Brady, because I'm fascinated by

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Tom Brady because he's he seems like unnatural though he

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should be the actual natural, the most natural, if you will,

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but he seems almost mythical on how he's been able

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to maintain his body. And still he's still arguably the

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best quarterback playing the game. And he just what is

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he forty four? I think it's forty three. How's he

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doing it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And you know that when if you notice it,

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he wasn't the greatest when he was nineteen and when

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he was real young.

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Speaker 1: He was he was he wasn't even he wasn't even drafted.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he took time to develop his skills

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and his intelligence, and over time he developed his skills

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better and better as he got older, because you have

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staying healthy and staying youthful, over time, they get better

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and better as opposed to petering out and burning out

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their career because they're aging slow and they can maintain there,

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you know. So, yes, I think Tom Brady has his

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diet compared to most other football players, has maintained his

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youthful youth. Youthfulness enabled him to keep training and using

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his brain and is growing knowledge about the game and

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to improve his skills. Yeah, as he got older because

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he maintained his youthfulness an age like other people did.

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And look at me. I'm I'm sixty eight right, oh wow,

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helicopters and like when I you know, I was a

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good skier when I first started when I was twenty

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years old because I was an United States skating team.

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I could do that stuff. But when I got out

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of medical school in my thirties, and I was not

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in such great shape as I am now. What I'm

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saying right now is my skiing is better than it

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ever was. My tennis is better than it ever was.

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I'm faster on the court. I can ski down moguls

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the whole run from the top of the mountain down

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to the bottom at high altitude without getting tired. I

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can bounce around on mobiles and take jumps and fly

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in the air. You know, I'm as fit as I

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am now at sixty eight as it wasn't my thirties.

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A more fit, you know. And my body fat slow, my,

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you know what it was. So yeah, I feel like

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I'm not that my physical ability hasn't really aged much

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even at sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's just remarkable. Now, I wanted to ask

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you a question that a lot of people really hear

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the here these kind of words, but don't understand what

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they are. What is micronutrients versus macronutrients?

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, the macronutrients really means calories because there are

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three mac primary macronutrients fat, carbohydrate, and protein, and those

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are the only way we get calories. Fat carbohydrate in protein,

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And I'm saying that the excess fat, the excess carbohydrate,

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and the excess protein, when we take in extra calories

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we didn't need, then it ages us, gets us overweight,

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and destroys our future health. I always say half of

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what people eat feed their needs and the other half

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feeds the needs of their doctors, which means that they're

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eating themselves into diseases. You know. But in any case,

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the American diet is ubiquitously and severely micronutrient deficient. And

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the micronutrients refer the food factors for survival, longevity, and

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health that do not contain calories like vitamins and minerals

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and phytochemicals and antioxidants. So I'm saying that the standard

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American diet, because it's so high in processed foods and

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oils and animal products, it doesn't contain a significant load

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of micronutrients, especially antioxidants, spitochemicals, and on certain vitamins. It's

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so low that the body builds up more toxins and

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ages very very rapidly. But I'm also saying that as

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you achieve micronutrient excellence, it gives you an instinctual desire

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for the right amount of calories, and you no longer

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become a calorie consuming monster having to overreach to keep

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your energy up.

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: And so what I'm saying right now is that when

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your diet isn't nutritionally adequate, it makes people want to

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eat more calories and they can't control that and they

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have to become overweight because their diet is too micronutrient

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deficient or micronutrient you know, unsatisfactory. The body can't produce

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the type of cell repair, the machinery can't be turned on,

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you can't reduce reactive oxygen species. You can produce enough

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energy from the right amount of calories. Because like when

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you're taking in white flour, that's a drug, it's not

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it's not even a food. You try to process it

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for energy and there's no cofactors and phytochemicals. The body

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has to convert into fat, leaving you if it's converted

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into fat instead of producing any out of it, so

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you're left fatigued and you got to eat more food

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to keep your energy up. So what I'm saying is

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here is that there are a lot of different mechanisms

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that drive overeating behavior that leads people who become overweight.

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And one of these major mechanisms is micronutrient insufficiencies.

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Speaker 1: So if you're able to increase your micronutrient or nutrient

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density in your foods, you will technically eat less because

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your body won't be asking for more and more food

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because it's getting what it needs to function properly and

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to repair things and to grow and to do all

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the things that it needs to do to run a

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healthy machine.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and I'm most I'm making this radical statement.

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I'm saying that heart attacks and strokes and high blood

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pressure and diabetes and high cholesterol and dementia, that and

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cancer and cancer are unnatural to the human species, not

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the inenvial consequence of aging, not the result of genetics,

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the result of poor lifestyle, poor habits, and poor eating

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habits that break down the body. And that we can

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make our body cancer proof, COVID proof, high blood heart

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attack proof, we don't have to worry about these diseases

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and living life into our later years without fear, with enthusiasm, passion, creativity,

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and excitement and enjoying our years in Later in life,

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most Americans get over the age of sixty and their

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body is they're a couch potato and they're living and

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they're going. They're mostly their involvements in life goes to

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going to doctors, taking drugs and getting medical procedures and

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living in fear of something bad happening to them. They

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have no quality of life when you're constantly worry about

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something bad happening to you, and constantly being checked for

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cancer and watching for heart attacks and monitoring blood tests

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and soul This craziness based on what people put in

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Speaker 1: It is interesting too because if you start looking at

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other mammals on the planet, they don't have these issues.

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Speaker 2: They activity because when they feed them kibble. It's exactly right.

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and they feed them like kibble, like dog food kind

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of stuff. You know that we feed them junk food. Well,

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that's the craziest thing in the world. Why have a

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gorilla in captivity. It's not feeding their natural diet that

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they would be eating in the wild.

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Speaker 1: It's not giving a koala steak. This just doesn't really make.

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Speaker 2: Sense in the world what we do to these gorillas

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in captivity, but they're looking. I read an article on

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this recently that a lot of gorillas in captivity, some

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of the being zoos and people that house them are

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trying to clean up their diet and replicate their natural

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diet have better health than those gorillas.

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Speaker 1: So that's such an interesting thing because we've been told

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so often throughout at least the last hundred years or more,

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that as you get older, you get dementia, you get

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heart attacks, you get high blood pressure, you get high cholesterol.

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And now the science is coming out and the information's

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coming out, they're like, no, it's it's really not a thing.

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It's like, you know, the the in the eighteen hundreds, Yeah,

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the lifestyle, theF the lifespan wasn't as long, but they

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didn't have nearly as much. I don't even know if

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there was a lot of cancer or if there was

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a lot of heart I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And if we have records back, you know, for the

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medical profession, seeing that there was hardly anything ever cancer

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reported until the seventeenth century when the first cancers they

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recorded in any significant amount were scrotal and testicular cancers

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found in men who worked as chimney sweeps from inhaling

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all the smoke. But most of the people who lived

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in you know, a more poor lifestyle were eating more

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plant foods and that they grew on their own farms,

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and they really couldn't afford to have all the rich

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foods that maybe the kings and queens the higher class

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was eating. So there, you know, So it was very

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little common diseases. But of course there were high infant mortality,

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high infection mortality. There's a lot of one in nine

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women died during childbirth. But if you look at the

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Renaissance artists who lived in the fourteenth century, their average

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age of death was greater than the average age of

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men today because they lived longer than than men lived today,

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because they were people that survived their childhood in order

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to produce works of art, and they were males who

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didn't die giving birth to children, you know, so they

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lived so that the males. So in any case, we're

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not living longer today than ever before, we're just having

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less infant childhood mortality. But with the adults aren't living

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longer unless you're you know, well you can, especially people

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in your Ukraine now being killed with war. A lot

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of people in prior generations got killed during wartime and

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fighting and all kinds of you know, things that cut

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short their violence, that cut short their life. We have

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an opportunity. The human life span should live between easily

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between ninety five to one hundred and five without these

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serious illnesses, with full mental faculty and full be able

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to be active and enjoying your life. I remember what's

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his name who wrote The Good Life? I forgot his name, anyway,

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if it comes to me, I'll mentioned he was a

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mit scholar who lived in Maine and built his own

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greenhouse and made his own food. And they died at

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one hundred and one because he felt kind of fatigued

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he couldn't work full time anymore, and he had a

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big party to celebrate his life, and then he fasted

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himself to death at one hundred and one years old.

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But I'm just showing it a lot of these healthy

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people I knew and that I have known in my

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medical career, who changed, who ate healthily when through most

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through a lot of their lives, had very very long

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lives and almost all past ninety five years old.

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Speaker 1: Now you mentioned that the word nutrient.

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Speaker 2: Scott Nearing, if you heard him Scott Nearing, he was

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heard of that he was an mit scholar. He was

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he used to be an economics professor, and he wanted

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to show people how he can live off the land

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and not have to spend a lot of money and

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still have a good life. And he built and shade

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died it in Maine where it wasn't a warm climate,

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and he grew all his own food. But anyway, he

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lived to be one hundred and one years old in

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great health.

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Speaker 1: You know, now you've used the term nutritarian. What is

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the nutritarian diet consist of?

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Speaker 2: Right? The word nutratarian obviously refers to a diet that

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people are eating to maximize their health and longevity. Right,

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That means we're eating a diet rich in nutrients, particularly

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rich in vegetables, because we're vegetable dependent animals and we're

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eating a lot of nutritional variety. We have a wide

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variety of foods that were eating, especially g bombs, greens

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and beans and onions and mushrooms and berries and seeds,

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and different types of foods, because we know that the

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blue zones around the world, where people living five to

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ten years longer than average, are not eating great diets.

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They're just better than the average American diet or standard

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Western diets or European diets, but they're not eating they're

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not eating a diet that's scientifically designed to have the

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nutrient density and variety of foodstuffs, variety of plant material

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that we can design from scratch, a diet that blows

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the blue zones out of the water. And that's what

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the nutritarian diet does. It's using the epidemiologic studies, the

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historical studies, the blue zone studies, and the randomized control

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trials to pick the foods with the most powerful anti

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cancer effects, immune system strengthening effects, and longevity building effects

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and put that together in a dietary portfolio to maximize

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the health of humans. And then we see that wellward

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mushrooms have ergothieni in and other longevity factors in them,

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and their anti angiogenic and green Cruciferus vegetables are the

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richest source of isothiocyanides, which the most powerfully activate the

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cellular repair machinery that silences genetical alterations that could lead

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to disease. So I'm saying right now that when you

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think genetics don't play a major role in disease outcomes,

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because when you eat healthily, genetic defects gets silenced and

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also repaired. And the braccal one gene VSTP one gene

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that increases risk of breast cancer for women do not

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increase risk of breast cancer in women eating a nutritarian diet,

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let's say, because we gene silence those abnormal gene defects.

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I am saying that we're that our genes are reflective

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of what we're eating. Our genes are modifiable and change

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their expression based on what we eat. So we're not

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looking at our genes to tell us what we should eat.

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We're eating to shape the development and function of our genes.

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And they work together, obviously, And the body has the

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ability to repair methylation defects, broken DNA cross links, and

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other so our body really has incredible, miraculous cell healing

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properties when we put all these right foods in, including

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greens and mushrooms and onions and barry least and seeds

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particularly like things like flax seeds and gus seeds and

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sesame seeds and hemp seeds and all these walnuts things

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like that, and fascinating research that shows us when we

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have the ability tea to diet with this wide amount

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of plant material, then the body becomes really disease proof.

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Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show. Now, what is the

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difference between fast and slow food?

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Speaker 2: Right? Well, the you know, people consider fast food what

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you purchase in a fast food restaurant, right, correct, But

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we know that anything that you buy in a package

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or a or a bag that's a fa you know what,

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a twinkie or a doughnut or a you know, some

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kind of candy. We're saying that fast food are things

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that you could just open up and just eat potato chips. Right,

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it's all fast food. But I'm also considering fast food

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anything made with white flour, because white flour is not

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a food, it's a drug. It's to say you like

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you're eating a cocaine equivalent. And I'm saying that because sugar, honey,

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maple syrup, white flour, the body doesn't differentiate. It sees

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it all coming in as glucose. It's a glucose load

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entering the body. And this major load of glucose because

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white flour products like bread and bagels and pizza and

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pamburger buns and all these things, the muffins, they enter

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the bloodstream very rapidly. It's called a high glycemic load.

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Means a lot of glucose went into the budstream really quickly.

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So all this glucose into the budsroom quickly without a

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significant amount of nutrients. It does no nutrients, it's just

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a glucose. When the body has that huge load coming

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in fast, then the concentration of calories coming in fast

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all at once in the bloodstream signals dopamine receptors in

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the brain, and the same brain centers for stimulation that

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opiates stimulate a narcotics. So the extra rush of calories

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in the blood drive addiction to those substances and give

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you cravings. Because over time you become more dopamine and

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sensitive body starts to require more dopamine stimulation, and then

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you need concentrated calories to repeat that dopamine stimulation to

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keep yourself feeling even normal. So you're overly dependent on

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dopamine stimulation from the excess dopamine stimulating effects of the

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rush of calories into the bloodstream. And the other source

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of fast food of fast calories are oil. Because people

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are eating a lot of their fats from oil, which

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puts so much calories so rapidly in the bloodstream, that

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makes them a huge appetite, stimulant and very fattening. You know,

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most Americans get most of their fat from either oil

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or animal fats. They're not getting their fat from food

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like nuts and seeds. So I'm saying it's walnuts, not

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the walnut oil. Sesame seeds not the sesame oil. It's

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pistachio nuts not the pistachiavel. When you get your fats

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from these whole nuts and seeds, the fat calories come

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into the bloodstream slowly, not fast. And when the calories

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the fat calories into the bloodstream slowly one or two

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calories a minute, the body preferentially burns it for energy,

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doesn't even store it as fat. But when fat calories

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rush in at fifty calories a minute from the oil,

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then the body has no choice but to put it

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in and put store it as fat right away and

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turn on fat storage hormones and fat storage mechanisms and

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inhibit fat loss and then increase the appetite. They get

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more energy for the because you know, no longer have

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the calories in the blood, you know. So it's all

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it's all very what's the word abnormal for humans to

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be getting fat from oils. Oils and not a natural

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food for any animal species on the earth and any

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primate or any human. It's a processed, you know, food

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that's been designed and you know, I see it as

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the like the biggest scam perpetrated on the world's population

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is convincing them that oil is a health food, you know.

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And it's when while everybody is overweight and fat, they're

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consuming five hundred calories of oil a day and thinking

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they can lose weight, and they think they can't. It's

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almost impossible. But so that's right. It's a fast food.

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And the slow food carbohydrate is like beans, peas, you know,

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so you know, chickpeas, lentils. Then the carbohydrates come in

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real slowly into the bloodstream. The beans in these other

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types of carbohydrates have very high and slowly digestible carbohydrates

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and very high in resistant starch, so you get the

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calories come into the bloodstream slowly, so the body doesn't

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have to produce much insulin to keep the glucose curved

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level because the calories come in very gradually. And of

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course insulin is another growth hormone that most fat storage

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and sets the stage for later life diseases. The hallmark

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of all long lived people or healthy centenarians is their

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insulin sensitive and the body doesn't have to make much insulin.

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They're not stressing out the insulin production by taxing it

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with high glycemic carbohydrates like white bread and white rice

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and sugar and honey and sweeteners. So we're talking here

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about getting your carbohydrate from fruits and vegetables and beans,

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and getting more protein from greens and beans and nuts

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and seeds, and obviously your body functions completely differently.

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Speaker 1: Now, what are some of the most nutrient dense foods

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that you can recommend.

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Speaker 2: Well, green vegetables are the most nutrient dense foods. And

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one of my mantras is to tell people to have

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a salad, a big salad, at least once a day.

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This here's the mantra. The salad is the main dish,

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that is it, and at least once today they should

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be eating a big salad and a nine inch salad bowl,

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chopping up a mixture of lettuce, dark green lettuce with

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half of some cruciferous green like bopjoy cabbage, arugula, baby kale.

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You know, we have this unprecedented opportunity in human history

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to slow aging and live longer because we have access

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to all these incredible foods today almost all over the

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all over the United States. We can get it, and

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we can get sprouts and microgreens and baby lettuces and

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things like that that our ancestor is get. I couldn't

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even see those foods in the marketplace when I was

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a child. You didn't have so much access to healthy food.

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And somebody's buying them. They're making them, they don't be

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producing them. But if some people are aware of the

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incredible health benefits of these type of microgreens and baby

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lettuces and cruciferous greens, because they're selling it in bags

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and boxes of these green productions or green vegetable productions production.

477
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So eating a salad every day is critically important to humans.

478
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We are green vegetable dependent animal, like the primate, like

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all the other primates are. I always tell people if

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you don't want to eat green vegetables, you better live

481
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,000
close to a hospital, because you can't have good health

482
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if you don't. We're green vegetable dependent animal, and I

483
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say that the consumption of raw vegetables has the most

484
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consistent and powerful association with the reduction of cancers or

485
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all type. But in addition to the greens, we're talking

486
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about both green raw vegetables and green cook vegetables and

487
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green cruciferous vegetable family like broccoli and cabbage and box

488
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:02,799
showy that family too. And then we have the other

489
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g bombs, the other bombs. The G stands for greens,

490
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and the bombs stands for beans, onions, mushrooms, berries, and seeds.

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So we're talking about getting a lot of our carbohydrate

492
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needs met from beans when you know as possible, like

493
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a cup of beans every day, of different types, chickpeas, lentils, peas,

494
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you know, things like that. And then onions and scallion

495
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:29,640
and green onion is very very powerful anti cancer longevity

496
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promoting effects, also anti diabetic and blood pressure lowering effects.

497
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And then you have mushrooms, which are the most powerful

498
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:43,400
anti angiogenic food. The word angiogenesis means the production of

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new blood vessels to fuel the growth of fat, which

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simultaneously fuels the growth of cancer cells. And mushrooms doesn't.

501
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Don't let you fuel the growth of fat or fuel

502
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the growth of cancer cells. They prevent new blood vessels

503
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:59,440
bringing new blood and oxygen and nourishments to grow to

504
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,160
feed out normal growth of tissue. So eating foods that

505
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,839
feed abnormal growth and mushrooms say no way, Jose, I'm

506
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:08,720
not letting you feel abnormal growth.

507
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Speaker 1: And Well, if you're gonna be asking what are some

508
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of the mushroom species that are really good to eat?

509
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I mean obviously there's the crimson, the crimson mushrooms about

510
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,519
what there's some more exotic ones that I've seen a

511
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lot of supplements about, like for the brain, brain function

512
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:28,799
and things like that. What do you recommend as far

513
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as the kind of the kind of mushrooms.

514
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Speaker 2: To eat, well, I do recommend people eat the simple

515
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,519
basic mushrooms that are least expensive too. Those are those

516
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:39,880
types of white button mushrooms, kremeni, most cremini brown mushrooms,

517
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and portobello mushrooms are the same type of mushroom. And

518
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,039
then you have then we also recommend people buy a

519
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:48,319
lot of shataki mushrooms. Those are the ones that have

520
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:50,960
the umbrella cap with a little dirt nib on the bottom.

521
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You cut off a little dirt nib, but you eat

522
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the whole stem and the whole umbrella cap, the shataki.

523
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But then buying you know, oyster and trumpet and lions

524
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:01,119
made in chantarell and all these different other mushrooms, what'sever

525
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,640
available in your marketplace, And some of them are quite expensive,

526
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,279
some of them they could be you know, ten dollars

527
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,279
a pound or more. But it's okay because I'm saying

528
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:11,880
it's okay to spend your money because you don't need

529
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,640
that much of that stuff. Right, even a half a pound,

530
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,240
even six dollars worth of those mushrooms are going to

531
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,200
be good for three nights to sprinkle in your dishes,

532
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,119
because even a little bit of mushrooms added to your

533
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:25,119
diet have tremendous powerful effects on longevity. It was a

534
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,920
study on a huge cohort of Asian women that showed

535
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,079
that people away ten grams of mushrooms a day had

536
00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:35,279
a sixty four percent lower risk of developing breast cancer

537
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,119
compared to women who eat no mushrooms and the ten

538
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,680
grams are the size of your thumb. That's just a

539
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,160
little bit of mushrooms. So it showed the So these

540
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,599
studies that have shown the effects of even a small

541
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,480
amount of mushrooms have incredibly powerful effects that improving bodies

542
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:53,240
immune function in lifespan. And we're not recommending ten grams

543
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:55,240
a day, of course, we're recommending people that have thirty

544
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,000
to fifty grams a day have much more mushrooms in

545
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,720
a quarter a cup of mushrooms or a third of

546
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a cup. But even at ten today, even one, even

547
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:03,240
just a spoonful of day, a mushroom has a beneficial

548
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effect in your health.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

550
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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: But so even if you can't afford it at a

552
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,240
huge amount, still buy some mushrooms and try to grow

553
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,319
some mushroom variety. I usually get shataki mushrooms as a

554
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:24,519
base and a super a dish, and I always ate

555
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:27,000
like one other mushroom to it, like white button or

556
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,920
a little Chanta rail or little trumpet or a little

557
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,759
white little something mixed in with the shataki, because I

558
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:35,599
love the shataki they're so chewy and like the mouth feels,

559
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,400
you know, add some substance in chewiness to the food

560
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,119
and they're really great.

561
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Speaker 1: Now I've heard you discuss the beans and the second

562
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meal effect. What is that?

563
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:52,799
Speaker 2: It means that beans have so much resistance starch that

564
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,559
they fuel the growth of beneficial bacteria in the gut

565
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more than other foods do. The other foods fuel the

566
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:04,079
growth of the most beneficial bacteria flora in the gut.

567
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Are the green vegetables raw and the onions raw, But

568
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the mushrooms are mostly cooked and the beans are mostly cooked.

569
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Beans are well cooked. Beans have a lot of resistance storach.

570
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But the combination of those four foods thicken the microbiome

571
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,759
that covers the villi and the small intestines. And scientists

572
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:30,440
call the covering the thicken coating on the villi. They

573
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:36,799
call it the biofilm. This biofilm of active living cells

574
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,880
that aren't part human, but their bacteria produce nutrients, help

575
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,720
us complete the protein that we eat from vegetables and

576
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,319
also slowly absorption of glucose into the bloodstream. So when

577
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:54,599
we eat a mango for breakfast, or some oatmeal and

578
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,000
a banana, the glycemic load of that breakfast is lowered

579
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because we ate the beans and the greens, and we

580
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:05,319
have a thickened biofilm which then slows the glue eases

581
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:07,880
of the glucose in the bloodstream, reducing the amount of

582
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insulin needs to be produced. So scientists call that the

583
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second meal effect, which means that the glycemic effect of

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00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,359
that meal has been blunted by the fact that you're

585
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regularly eating greens and beans and mushrooms, particularly beans.

586
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Speaker 1: Interesting and and beans and lagomes as well.

587
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,279
Speaker 2: Beans in lagooms. I use that was interchangeably beings out

588
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,400
saying lagumes and then and the combination of the greens

589
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,359
and the onions and the mushrooms and beans. Also scientists

590
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,720
call it gene silencing. That I mentioned that these foods

591
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,079
not only folk develop a favored microbiome, but they also

592
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,519
penetrate into every cell in our body and activate the

593
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:54,480
antioxygen response element and the cell that repairs the cell damage.

594
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And here's the thing. It gene silences any defa in

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the cell. So if you've inherited something bad that can

596
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:07,880
increase risk of disease, that's recognized and silenced and not

597
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,599
allowed to cause a problem. So when you're eating right,

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your genes, negative genes don't have a chance to cause

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00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,279
any negative effects, and scientists call that gene silencing.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about the importance of

601
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,759
the microbiome and what it does to our health and

602
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:28,279
it's something that is really starting to come into into

603
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,400
the zeitgeist a little bit more in recent years, But

604
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:34,519
a lot of people didn't even think about the gut

605
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:36,519
or the gut flora or anything like that. So can

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00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:37,599
you talk a bit that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and people are thinking they're taking these probiotic pills

608
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,680
with acidophos and bibotus and thinking the yogurt's good. But

609
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:48,319
we're finding out with more research that the most longevity

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promoting microbiome that slows aging and communicates with our immune

611
00:33:52,440 --> 00:34:00,559
system are gram positives that have the most micro biologicalsity.

612
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,759
So it's having the most wide diversity of different types

613
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,759
of grand positive organisms that slow aging and support the

614
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:11,039
growth of the healthiest immune function. Because your immune system

615
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:14,760
is you could say, concentrated around the digestive tract. They

616
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,000
call it the interstitial lymphocytes that surround the digesta tracts

617
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that are fueled by the eryl hydrocarbon receptors, which are

618
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,719
then fueled by green vegetables. So what I'm saying right

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now is that our immune system is concentrated around the

620
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,199
digesta tract and it's fueled by the microbiome there and

621
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the interaction between the cells that are living the bacteria

622
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,719
that living there, which then don't let yeast forms and

623
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,599
viruses and bacteria penetrate through, and it allows to penetrate

624
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,119
through so slowly or with such small concentrations that the

625
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:57,679
immune system can recognize and engulph those and deactivate them quickly.

626
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,119
It's when you have and of course when you're eating

627
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:04,400
like meats and sweets, let's say you have more gram

628
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,920
negative organisms, more yeast for forms, and more. And when

629
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you have this these negative gram negatives bacteria, you produce

630
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,679
more and more animal protein choline, You produce more TMAO

631
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:23,679
trimethylamine oxide, which then is a pro inflammatory substance that

632
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,679
increases risk of cancer, dementia, and of course atherosclerosis increases

633
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,679
risk of heart disease tremendously. From the type of bacteria

634
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,599
you just grow that failure, you're giving a favorable expression

635
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,599
to have those growing those unhealthy bacteria in a digest

636
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,599
atract versus crowding them out and fueling and having all

637
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:44,800
the good bacteria. So we're saying that the lagoons, then chickpeas,

638
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,320
and the lentils and the greens, these foods, and even

639
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,239
the mushrooms and the onions are the best prill probiotic

640
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,960
or prebiotic to grow the health of these good bacteria.

641
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And then you have post biotic products, which means the

642
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,360
bacteria themselves produce nutrients and support immune function and communicate

643
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,320
with the rest of the body and the brain to

644
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,000
improve our health and to prove our immune recognition of

645
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,320
abnormal cells and invade in microbes that can invade us.

646
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: Fascinating, fascinating. I've heard you say before that nuts and

647
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,480
seeds can really truly help heart disease. Can you discuss

648
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a little bit about that.

649
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:31,079
Speaker 2: Yes, it's really fascinating that it's wild that people are

650
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:35,559
consuming nuts and seeds have such lower rates of cardiovascular death.

651
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We're saying that most studies show about a forty percent

652
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:42,960
reduction in cardiovascular death from the regular consumption, the daily

653
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,599
consumption of nuts and seeds and the diet. And you

654
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:47,719
could say, well, that's because people are eating nuts and

655
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,679
seeds instead of oil. Whether eating nuts and seeds instead

656
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:52,960
of meat, maybe they cut the meat down and eate

657
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:55,679
more nuts and seeds, but that's not what the study shows.

658
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,960
It shows with every cohort we're looking at, whether it's

659
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:02,559
person eating a fish based diet or a meat based diet,

660
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:04,320
or a vegan diet or a near vegan or a

661
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,440
flexitarian diet, or a unhealthy diet or healthy vegan or

662
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,320
health that when we look at every cohort, it held

663
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,760
up still beneficial effects on longevity. And we're talking about

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reducing all cause mortality meaning cancer as well as heart

665
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,599
attacks and strokes and seizures and irregular heartbeats and infection.

666
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,079
That nuts and seeds have beneficial effects on human longevity.

667
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,639
That what I'm saying right now and what you ask me,

668
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,800
is to make the strong point that nuts and seeds

669
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should be the fat source, the fatty food that humans

670
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,440
eat to get their fats should come from nuts and

671
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,960
seeds and avocado, not from animal products and oils, because

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00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,719
when we do that, we magnificently improve human health and longevity.

673
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Speaker 1: Now with nuts, though, the thing I've heard and I'd

674
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:54,719
love to hear your thoughts about it is that with

675
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,920
something like almonds or pistachios in nature, you need to

676
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:01,760
work to get to that nut. So for you to

677
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,960
actually get an almond is going to take a tremendous

678
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,840
amount of effort to break through the husk and all

679
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,280
that stuff to get the one almond.

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Speaker 2: But now we have that's true.

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00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's say with pistachios, it's.

682
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Speaker 2: A thing you can take. A human can take a

683
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,880
rock and smash open and almonds in two seconds.

684
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Speaker 1: Okay, So but that two seconds is a lot more

685
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,559
seconds than buying a hand You could buy literally get

686
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,679
a bag of almonds and eat, you know, one hundred

687
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,559
almonds without thinking about it. Is that too many calories?

688
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,039
Or do we need to worry about that? We chould

689
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watch how many nuts we eat?

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Speaker 2: No, we should watch everything we eat, not eat, not

691
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over eat of any food because our total calories for

692
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,199
the day matter. But when what I'm saying right now

693
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,519
is when your nutrient levels are low, you can become

694
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:50,480
a calorie consuming machine. You can sit there and need

695
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:52,199
a whole bag of almonds, got it. But when you're

696
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:54,800
when you're getting enough greens and beans and mushrooms and

697
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,119
onions and berries, and you're eat enough vegetable enough nutrients,

698
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,079
you're not going to become one over eat You're gonna

699
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:04,559
feel instinctual cutoff point. You're not going to really being

700
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an overeating machine. So we're not saying that people can't

701
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,360
emotionally overeat or haven't been trained to overeat since they

702
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,239
were young and still have perverted styles of eating that

703
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,840
have to be retrained. That's for true. And people could

704
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,039
use nuts to overeat on. We're not justifying it. Could

705
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:24,320
overeat on fruit and vegetables too, but nuts are calorically concentrated,

706
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,000
so is avocado, and so is things like you can

707
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:30,000
overeat on even rice. But the point is is the

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00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,199
course that you can easier overreat on nuts because it's

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00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:35,960
one hundred and seventy five calories per ounce. So let's

710
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,719
say if you have two ounces of nuts, that would

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00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,960
be let's say three hundred and fifty calories a day,

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which would be reasonable. But if you ate a thousand

713
00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:46,719
calories from nuts a day on top of your other food,

714
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,440
it would be you know, obviously, what I'm saying is

715
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:52,760
using nuts as your fat source to use it judiciously.

716
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:57,039
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

717
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,679
and now back to the show, like a.

718
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,119
Speaker 2: Half an ounce to an ounce with each meal. I

719
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:08,840
could eat announce with each meal because I'm doing a

720
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,320
lot of athletics. But of course you're looking to lose weight,

721
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,159
can still have a half announced with each meal and

722
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,880
still have an ounce and a half of nuts a day,

723
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,840
And that's not going to be that And when we're

724
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,119
in the scientific studies show with it, when you change

725
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,480
let's say you had two hundred to three hundred calories

726
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:26,199
of nuts, and you reduced your calories from carbohydrate accordingly

727
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,599
by three two hundred, three hundred calories, you have more

728
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:33,119
weight loss and more satiation of hunger by including the

729
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:36,239
two hundred. By reducing the carbohydrates down, so when you

730
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,199
move things isocalorically the same amount of calories. Let's say

731
00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:42,119
your calories is sixteen hundred for the day, you keep

732
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:43,760
at sixteen hundred for the day, but you take in

733
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,039
more nuts and less potato or rice, then you've got

734
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,119
better health, no longevity. But obviously if you can, oh

735
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,639
you snack on food, is going to emotionally eat and

736
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,039
use nuts to gain weight, then you're gonna not be

737
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:57,519
great in great health because any time you have fat

738
00:40:57,599 --> 00:40:59,480
on the body, you're not going to have good health.

739
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,760
And there's no such thing as an overweight healthy person.

740
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,400
All overweight people have are shortened their life spans. And

741
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:08,800
if you're going to eat to keep yourself overweight, because

742
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,599
we want to modulate our food intake to get our

743
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,199
perfect body weight, and modulate our protein intake and modulate

744
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,119
our fat intake. So part of being a neutratarian isn't

745
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:19,800
just eating one kind of food and overeating on it.

746
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,199
It's knowing when to eat and how much to eat too, right,

747
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,280
because we want to be at our perfect weight. So

748
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,800
my perfect weight, for example, at the age of sixty eight,

749
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,880
my body fat is about ten percent. And I say,

750
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,400
for a male to be in good healthy ask does

751
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,079
this body fat below fifteen percent, but preferably lower than that,

752
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:38,039
but probably below twelve. But for a woman to be

753
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:39,639
in good health, you haves to every body fat below

754
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:43,440
twenty five percent, maybe even ideally below twenty three percent.

755
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:45,960
But at least we have to. We can't just to

756
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000
eat anything as much of these things as we want.

757
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: We have to.

758
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: But I'm saying is you're not going to want to

759
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,079
overeat those things when you really learn how to eat healthy,

760
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:55,760
learn the recipes and you know you and of course

761
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,599
we have the ability to control our health destiny. We

762
00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:02,639
can't just eat, and we have to and that entails

763
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,760
moderate caloric restriction to slow the aging process. Atle bit

764
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,880
restriction is made possible because you're comfortable eating less calories

765
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,480
when eating the right food, and it becomes impossible to

766
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,639
do because you're uncomfortable eating less calories when you eat

767
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:18,159
the wrong food.

768
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: So which brings me to another question, what do you

769
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,559
think about intermitted fasting? Is that something that is beneficial

770
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:26,199
long term?

771
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: It can't be answered simply okay, because we have so

772
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,119
much of our population is overweight, right, and these overweight

773
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:41,079
people when they start to intimate and fast to lose weight,

774
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,719
they're so emotionally attached to food and addicted to food

775
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:50,400
that it sometimes triggers binge eating, binge eating or yo

776
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,360
yoing their weight and they go on these diets that

777
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,360
are too strict, utilizing intimatetent fasting or fasting as it

778
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,960
means to get their weight down. Then they bounce back,

779
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:04,880
can overeat and it triggers them emotionally. Now you to

780
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:07,639
and their col and their metabolic rates are slowed down

781
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,199
by fasting, and now with a slow excessively slow down,

782
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,920
I should say, and then when they're eating more calories

783
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,679
they gain weight even back again. And if you're using

784
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,480
any so there's too much of a high probability for

785
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:24,480
people with an addictive relationship with food or emotional overreaders

786
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:28,559
to utilize fasting and then binging and fasting and binging

787
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,639
to yo yo their caloric intakes too much. That's not

788
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,840
going to be in their best interest. For most overweight people,

789
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,519
we see better long term results that achieving and maintaining

790
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:42,079
a normal weight if they develop a feeling for repetition

791
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,440
and doing the same thing every day, week in and

792
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:49,199
week out, losing weight gradually and slowly till they get

793
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,360
to their perfect weight because they know how to live. Now,

794
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,159
So I can intermit in fast because I'm not overweight

795
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:56,639
and it's not going to lead me into a binge.

796
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,480
But if you haven't mastered your diet and your weight,

797
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:05,239
then you don't want to go to these extreme coloric

798
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,079
restrictions until you can get your regular pattern of eating

799
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:10,599
every day to get you to achieve an ideal weight.

800
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,239
You following me too much chances of blowing this up

801
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,480
and the oyoling, which is so bad for your health.

802
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,559
And then the major factor via which intimate and fasting

803
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:25,960
slows aging and extends human lifespan is not having food

804
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,159
in your stomach when you're sleeping at night. And so

805
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,280
we're talking about eating a lighter and earlier dinner and

806
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,519
finish eating dinner at least four hours before bedtime, so

807
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:38,519
the meal has a chance to totally digest, so when

808
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:40,639
you go to bed at night, you're not digesting food.

809
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,159
So yes, if that's called time restricted eating or intimate

810
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,920
and fasting, then I'm green with it. But I'm for

811
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,320
going on these diets of five hundred calories a day

812
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,960
for four days in a row and then going back

813
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,760
to your normal way of eating again to keep your

814
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,920
weight under control. It has a history a very poor

815
00:44:57,039 --> 00:45:00,480
success rate and a history of long term failure. Even

816
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:03,239
the people have gone water fasts for two or three

817
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,639
weeks and they lose a lot of weight. If you

818
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,840
follow them a year or two later, that are a

819
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,119
heavier weight two years later, a year later than they

820
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,760
wore when they before they started that fast. It did

821
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,559
not result in permanent weight loss because it slowed the

822
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:18,920
metaboli rate down slow much and they went back to

823
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,719
eating again, which they have the tendency that they're like

824
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,039
now they're thinking about food in such an emotional way

825
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,920
that they're triggering their desire to overeat, and then they

826
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,639
put back weight on again. So I'm really into these

827
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,519
days of people taking the initiative and teaching them they

828
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:39,280
have to persevere over time with the repetition of the

829
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,920
right way of eating, day in and day out, and

830
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,039
to lose weight at two or three pounds a week

831
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:45,880
until they get to their ideal weight and keep it

832
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,599
going in that direction and then live that way for

833
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:49,800
the rest of their life. And if they want to

834
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,039
put some fasting on top of that, they could, but

835
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:54,039
it's not the means to lose weight. It's not going

836
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:56,599
to be a major portion of their therapy until they

837
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:57,239
learn how to eat.

838
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,519
Speaker 1: Right now, what are some fat loss promoting foods?

839
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: Fat loss promoting foods, Well, the same foods we were

840
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:10,440
talking about that prevent cancer have effects to reduce fat

841
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:12,239
storage in the body, you know, the G bombs. So

842
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,159
I be saying the same four foods, the beans, the

843
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,800
cooked foods are the beans and the mushrooms cooked and

844
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,480
the raw foods are the greens and the onion scallion

845
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:26,119
raw with that same combination of food, having the big

846
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:28,679
salad every day for lunch, having the bowl of vegetable

847
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,440
and bean soup with the onions and mushrooms in it,

848
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:32,920
and a little fruit for dessert. It's the style of

849
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,599
the diet that makes you lose weight effortlessly because we

850
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,760
have it both major meals. We have some cooked food

851
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,400
and raw food. So at lunch we have a salad

852
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,639
with some cooked super chili or something with some soup,

853
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,800
and then for dinner we have some raw vegetables with

854
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,079
a dipper of sauce, maybe different raw vegetables, and you

855
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:52,559
had at lunch, maybe peppers and box choy and snow

856
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:55,039
peapods and carrots and hickem, you know. And then we

857
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:57,280
have a cooked vegetable walk with cabbage and mushrooms and

858
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,800
onions and snow peapods and water chestnuts, and maybe a

859
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:02,800
curry sauce on that, and maybe some frozen fruit whipped

860
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,920
up to a nice dessert. But every meal has those

861
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,960
features of raw vegetables, cooked vegetables, beans and nuts and

862
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,360
a little fresh fruit, except for breakfast, which was mostly

863
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,519
probably just a little grain with some fruit and plant milk,

864
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:17,440
you know, so it's some seeds on top, like flax

865
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,920
seeds or geese seeds or something. So we keep it

866
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:23,320
not too complicated so people can reproduce this, and we

867
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,440
make it with great tasting recipes, including great tasting desserts

868
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,840
that are made predominantly from fruit with no sweetener agents

869
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,760
that taste really great by like whipping up frozen fruits

870
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,400
into like ice creams and things. But so we make

871
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,119
a really great tasting plan that people can feel satisfied with.

872
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,519
They're not having to eat thimble sized portions of food.

873
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,599
They can enough volume of food to feel satiated and

874
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,760
still watch their weight come down. We had a person

875
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,519
here at the retreat this first month who lost fifty

876
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:52,239
pounds in the first month, and I said to him,

877
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,159
he asked me, how much is What's the most weight

878
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,719
a person ever lost in the first month? And I said,

879
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,280
it's not a race, and it doesn't matter how much

880
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,039
fast you lose it. But I don't think any but

881
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,119
he's lost more than like forty pounds. So he said,

882
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:04,079
I'm beating it. I'm going to fifty pounds this month.

883
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,679
So we so like walked in the pool and then

884
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:08,719
I saw what a pool like half the day trying

885
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,320
to I said, you know, so he's not losing that

886
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,360
much weight this month. He's only losing about thirty pounds

887
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:19,199
the second month. But most people eventually go wind down

888
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,639
to losing about you know ten. Most lose people lose

889
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:25,039
twenty pounds the first month, fifteen pounds the second month.

890
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,760
Then they kind of like stay at hover at ten

891
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,000
pounds a month usually until it gets close to their

892
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,920
ideal weight. So they're losing usually about two pounds a week,

893
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,519
and then they might go within a ten pounds to

894
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:36,000
the right the weight down to a pound a week.

895
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,920
But the bottom line is there's a new tratarian as

896
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,599
a person at their perfect weight or moving there in

897
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,039
that direction. Because if you're overweight and you're not moving

898
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:48,480
in the right direction, then you're not following the program right.

899
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,400
Then you're doing something wrong, could be overeating or nuts,

900
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,440
or you're being dried fruit. But if you want to

901
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,800
do this right and you're overweight, you have to be

902
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,239
losing steadily on the way to your ideal weight out.

903
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: What is the most important meal of the day.

904
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: Lunch? Unquestionably, lunch is when people should be eating that

905
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,079
big salad and the bowl of vegetable being super you know, yes,

906
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:13,079
I want like, like, if I'm out busy something, I

907
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,559
may be out with my family or doing something, I

908
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:17,599
may skip dinner or just have some fruit for dinner

909
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,440
or something, or a handful of nuts for dinner. But

910
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,360
I'm not gonna skip that big salad you know, of

911
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,039
raw vegetables and take the time to chew it and

912
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:27,800
really break down all those nutrients in your mouth and

913
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,199
get that really healthy meal in for lunch every day.

914
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,159
Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to ask you a change.

915
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: Most days of breakfast, I have little grain and a

916
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,920
little bit of seeds and berries and fruit. And today

917
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,920
I had I had a u some apricots and some

918
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:44,320
figs and you know whatever. But but if I'm busy

919
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,199
on a you know, work, I could maybe just have

920
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,480
a piece of fruit. I'm not going to have the

921
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:50,039
seeds of the cereals they have. I could like skip

922
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:51,599
it or change it around, but I'm not going to

923
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,119
change my habit of having that big salad to lunch

924
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:54,559
every day.

925
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

926
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,599
and now back to the show.

927
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: I could change the breakfast a little bit sometime I

928
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,800
could skip it, I could change it up, but just

929
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,320
someone in a rush having a pain Ezekiel English muffin

930
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,239
or something in the car. But I'm not going to

931
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,599
change my big salad for lunch.

932
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: Do you recommend breads or should we watch the bread

933
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,679
and take that we have.

934
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,559
Speaker 2: I recommend not having flour breads made from flour, but

935
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,880
like I buy the Ezekiel Food for Life brand, which

936
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,320
are made from sprouted grains.

937
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: What's the difference.

938
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,199
Speaker 2: It's the glycemic load that's different because when you grind

939
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,559
some of these, when you know, we're already talking about

940
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:40,880
white flour as being a drug and not even a food,

941
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,719
it's like that's no brainer, you know. But now what

942
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,920
about these whole grain breads that are made with the

943
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,800
whole wheat flour?

944
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: You know?

945
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:51,159
Speaker 2: And that's the question, And there are intermediate food because

946
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,719
even the because they grind the whole wheat flour and

947
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,440
make it so finely ground that it's still probably unfavorably glycemic.

948
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,679
If you had one slice of bread, you know, with

949
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,679
a healthy meal, it's not a big deal. But the better,

950
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,280
the best breads if you're going to use bread, and

951
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,840
they taste good too, but the food for Life is

952
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,360
Ezekiel brand, which are made from sprouted grains which have

953
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,599
lower and sodium, higher in protein and lower glacimic. Then

954
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:17,920
the whole wheat flower made bread, you know what I mean,

955
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,000
because they made from the whole. They take the grain

956
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:21,880
and they sprout it and then they grind it up

957
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,320
a little bit and make it into a loaf, you know,

958
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,960
bake it into a loaf, so it's naturally lower glace

959
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,239
simic and more nutrient rich. So it's just a better

960
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,519
quality bread. Got it?

961
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Speaker 1: And then how about like all these new flowers like

962
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:37,599
cassava flour or chickpea flour, almond flour, these kind of

963
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,320
products that are like like I have a tortilla made

964
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,199
of cassava flour, you know, to get away from the

965
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,360
gluten and things like that. Is that that kind of

966
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:47,440
good food to eat?

967
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: It's okay. I think people could eat those in moderation.

968
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:52,880
I have seen like tortillas and wraps made it of

969
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:53,760
cauliflour too.

970
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Speaker 1: You ever see those those.

971
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: Are cauliflower wrapp You know, they're not eating that much

972
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,559
of the rap anyway. You stuffling it with mushrooms and

973
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,280
ab aca and sprouts and tomatoes and onions. Since you

974
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,280
can make a nice healthy wrap. I put some of

975
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,360
the like a basil. I take like roasted garlic and

976
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:11,840
hemp seeds with a little bit of basil, and and

977
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,159
what am I putting a little nutritional yeast in there

978
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:16,199
and a little bit of you know, making these delicious

979
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,599
dressings or a dip made for the for the wrap,

980
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:20,360
and then putting a wrap around and carrying on the

981
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,960
plane with it when I'm traveling or something, you know

982
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,639
what I mean. So, yeah, it's you can use some

983
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,000
of those wraps. You're not eating that much wrap anyway,

984
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:28,079
So yeah, those sound all reasonable, but we're not eating

985
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:31,400
a It's not a major portion of our diet anyway, right,

986
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:34,360
That's just it's a rapping, Yeah, exactly.

987
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Speaker 1: It's a rapping. Now everything we've talked about we're talking

988
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,320
about obviously longevity, but I've heard you talk about actually

989
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,519
reversing aging or aging back where it's it's everything that

990
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:50,039
we're talking about in that in that world of trying

991
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:52,960
to turn the clock back, if you will, instead of

992
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:53,639
extending it.

993
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 2: I know there are some scientists and people and physicians

994
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,880
and people saying you can't age backwards. That's ridiculous. But

995
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,960
I'm saying no, you ate can age backwards. We've proven

996
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:07,000
that and we see it all the time, every day.

997
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:07,519
Speaker 1: I see it.

998
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,599
Speaker 2: It's the only to bend. But I'm not aging backwards

999
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:12,679
because I've been doing I've been eating right a long time.

1000
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,239
I'm just aging slower. But when these people come into

1001
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,159
our retreat, let's say, or they come in they come

1002
00:53:17,199 --> 00:53:22,519
from an unhealthy diet, there's measurable biological aging determinants like

1003
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:25,719
their telomere length, their epigenetic changes, and we can measure

1004
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,440
the inflammation their bloodstream, and then we can measure them again.

1005
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:31,960
The telomeres represent your biological age and your epigenetic changes.

1006
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,639
We can see how fast you're aging and how fast

1007
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,320
you have aged. So maybe you're sixty years old, but

1008
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,840
you have the body of an eighty year old based

1009
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,119
on your blood tests or your swabs of you, you know.

1010
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:44,440
And then after you fight healthily for six months, we

1011
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:47,559
see the telomeres went back to normal. Now you're a

1012
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:49,960
sixty year old with sixty year old telomeres, not a

1013
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,159
sixty year old the seventy year old tar old telomeres.

1014
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:55,320
You follow me, right, So you see unhealthy people age

1015
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,800
backwards as they get really healthy, you want to stay

1016
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,039
on that, so you can't. So people are aging backwards,

1017
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,960
but we're not really aging backwards. We're just bringing them

1018
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,840
to it. We're just bringing them back to where they

1019
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,920
should have been if they were eating healthfully, and they've

1020
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:13,440
just accelerated the aging process, so they have abnormal, accelerated

1021
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,280
aging that we're just repairing back again. So it's like

1022
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,760
aging backwards. I'm not aging backwards. I'm still aging, but

1023
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,440
I've were not because I didn't get myself in a

1024
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,599
bad shape to begin with, so I have to age backwards.

1025
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:25,119
You follow me.

1026
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,119
Speaker 1: I know, I understand what you're saying, but also there

1027
00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:30,719
are times where, like you, you could be a fifty

1028
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,440
year old but have a thirty year old's internal scenarios

1029
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,480
based on the blood type of blood work, if you're.

1030
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,679
Speaker 2: Eating compared to the average fifty year old.

1031
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: Correct, exactly, exactly, And I'm making this.

1032
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,519
Speaker 2: I'm also making the radical statement that people should be

1033
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:48,039
that the average lifespan should be between ninety five and

1034
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:51,159
one hundred and five, not between seventy and ninety where

1035
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,280
most Americans die around age seventy seven seventy eight. So

1036
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,559
we're talking here about living to be around one hundred

1037
00:54:57,679 --> 00:55:00,000
years old, having good health, and your full mental faculty.

1038
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:00,599
These intact.

1039
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:03,079
Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to ask you two questions to ask

1040
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:06,480
all my guests, what is your mission in this life?

1041
00:55:09,679 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: Well, I have my own personal missions and business missions,

1042
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,639
but my mission in life is too is to be happy,

1043
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,679
enjoy the world around me, and have a positive effect

1044
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,960
on as many people as I can to improve their

1045
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,519
health and happiness. You know, so, and you can only

1046
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:31,039
do that if you're in good health yourself. If you're

1047
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:33,840
not taking care of your own health and your own

1048
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,480
happiness and well being, then you can't have a good

1049
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:39,960
positive effect on other people. You know. I'd love to

1050
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,719
have an effect on the planet as well, but you know,

1051
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,960
we're seeing the planet being destroyed. But there's so much

1052
00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:49,920
negativity and short sighted thinking. And I'm saying here that

1053
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:57,480
I think the instantaneous gratification and the food addiction mentality

1054
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:02,800
has led people to think and behave for instant gratification

1055
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,159
and not think of the effects that we're having on

1056
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,559
the world collectively and enables us to destroy the environment

1057
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:12,840
for our children and grandchildren, destroy the planet, which includes

1058
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:18,920
climate change and also the promotion of aggression, aggression, contempt

1059
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,840
for other humans, the one country trying to beat out

1060
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,880
another country, and the increased competition between humans and wars

1061
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,039
and killing each other, which we're seeing today, you know,

1062
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,400
in today's climate, we're seeing you know, climate change, wars,

1063
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,039
and also an acceleration of hate among Americans against immigrants

1064
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,239
and people from other countries and people with different have

1065
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:43,880
different backgrounds and different educations and different you know, but

1066
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,480
we're not We're not cultivating, you know, a concern for

1067
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,199
people all over the world, a collective well being for

1068
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,800
the earth, compassion for all humans, matter what they like

1069
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,119
us or not, you know, stopping wars and working together

1070
00:56:59,159 --> 00:57:01,880
as a as a as a unified planet. At Roam's

1071
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,880
sharing this one spaceship to protect the planet for our

1072
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,000
children and grandchildren future generations. We're not having that happen,

1073
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,320
and so I'm you know, in some ways, I'm disappointed.

1074
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,000
I can't do more, but we all do the best

1075
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:16,400
we can and do as much as we can. And

1076
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,320
I think the nutrition has a huge part to do

1077
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,920
with all this, and it fuels people's aggression and there

1078
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,559
and mental illness and their ability to be be more

1079
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:30,119
narcissistic is fueled by their poor diets. And so that's

1080
00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:32,400
my niche is I can't do everything. I'm just doing

1081
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,039
what I can do, and the niche that I've chosen

1082
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:37,039
to live in. And I really, as you know, of

1083
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:39,960
very passionate about motivating people to take better care of

1084
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:40,320
their health.

1085
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: Now, where can people pick up your book Eat for

1086
00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:47,559
Life and all your other amazing products and courses and

1087
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:50,239
services and so on. Thank you?

1088
00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:53,559
Speaker 2: Well, my website's doctor firm in dot com d r

1089
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,280
f U h R m an dot com. But you

1090
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,360
can buy those books anywhere bookstores, Amazon, you know. So,

1091
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:03,360
And I have a lot of my work has actually

1092
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,559
been shown a lot on public television on PBS the

1093
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:07,880
United States, a lot of they have run a lot

1094
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,719
of my shows over the last ten years. So I've

1095
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,599
very been blessed to have gone into the you know,

1096
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,320
gone into the living rooms and bedrooms with people across

1097
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,199
America speaking about motivating them to take better care of

1098
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:21,280
their health, because they don't get that from anybody. They

1099
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,639
don't get it anywhere practically, right, they go through grade school.

1100
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:25,760
Only the most important thing is they should have learned

1101
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,679
to protect their life. They learn nothing about it.

1102
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: All right, you know.

1103
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:32,599
Speaker 2: But anyway, So yeah, I've had some. I'm very grateful

1104
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:34,800
for the opportunities I've had to be able to have

1105
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,039
an effect on hundreds of thousands of people. That's given

1106
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:39,599
me tremendous amount of pleasure. But I get so much

1107
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:42,360
pleasure just from helping one person, just from seeing one

1108
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,159
person transform their life for the better, and working with

1109
00:58:45,239 --> 00:58:47,639
that gives me a lot of satisfaction, pleasure as well

1110
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:48,920
as a farm.

1111
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: And thank you so much for not only coming on

1112
00:58:50,519 --> 00:58:52,199
the show, but for all the amazing work you've been

1113
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:55,360
doing over over the years. And I truly truly appreciate you,

1114
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,280
my friend. Thank you again.

1115
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1116
00:58:57,559 --> 00:59:02,559
Speaker 1: Else, thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

1117
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