Speaker 1: Bart home boy, we got plenty of reffing down here
Speaker 1: to get into. But before you, oh look at you
Speaker 1: the leonor Ryan near this morning. Yeah, busting out the
Speaker 1: leonor Ryan gear. Nicely done.
Speaker 2: How did they How did they do this weekend? Do
Speaker 2: you know? By the way at the top.
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of our athletic teams won this weekend,
Speaker 3: so very good.
Speaker 2: Well there you go, as always, And I.
Speaker 3: Have nothing for the women's soccer team over Emory and Henry.
Speaker 3: So that was a good one.
Speaker 1: Well well, I mean, you know, it looks like they were.
Speaker 1: It looks like Emery and Henry. We're just playing with
Speaker 1: only two. So well yeah, Bill and Mary, Emory and Henry.
Speaker 1: They're always playing shorthanded, all right, So reffing down here.
Speaker 1: We do know that there's plenty to talk about, right uh,
Speaker 1: But what I wanted to do was start by discussing
Speaker 1: what happened with the U twenties on the women's side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: getting the bronze medal in Colombia and doing it on
Speaker 1: a one hundred and nineteenth minute winner to get the
Speaker 1: bronze in an international tournament. So Hazahs and Serpentina to
Speaker 1: the youth national team and the U twenty side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think first off, we have to
Speaker 3: understand that North Korea does this particular competition very well,
Speaker 3: especially when you consider how they're not very good at
Speaker 3: the senior level. I won't speculate as to why they're
Speaker 3: somehow really good at the U twenty level, but.
Speaker 1: Just before military duty, eh.
Speaker 3: But you know, there is just saying these youth tournaments
Speaker 3: are about possibly finding some players to help with the
Speaker 3: next cycle. Right, you get two U twenty World Cups
Speaker 3: basically per cycle. So if you get one or two
Speaker 3: from each U twenty tournament, right, maybe three, then you've won.
Speaker 3: And I think we show that there are three, four,
Speaker 3: maybe even five players that can potentially earn roles with
Speaker 3: the US women's national team coming up in you know,
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty seven cycle that we're now in.
Speaker 1: One hundred nineteenth minute winner for Maddy Dolling and it
Speaker 1: was a two to one win against the Netherlands bronze
Speaker 1: medal in the twenty twenty four U twenty Women's World
Speaker 1: Cup at the Estadio El kampen In in Bogata. So
Speaker 1: Americans best finish in the past five World Cups, dating
Speaker 1: back to their third and most recent title in twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: second success in the bronze medal game, last taking third
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four in Thailand.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean again.
Speaker 3: This is I think this is good progress for a
Speaker 3: team that has struggled in the past editions of this,
Speaker 3: of this tournament, I still maintained that the coach is yes,
Speaker 3: yeahy Sivons has held this programm back for multiple World Cups.
Speaker 3: She will no longer be coaching the U twenty side.
Speaker 3: She is being shuffled to a desk job. Hopefully not
Speaker 3: for long either. But again, this is I have stayed
Speaker 3: on the same thought process for the longest, for the longest.
Speaker 3: Tide youth tournaments are great to participate in. You want
Speaker 3: to see good play, you want to see some promising talent.
Speaker 3: But this was even I think, you know, this finally
Speaker 3: met expectations, John right, Like I think for the longest time,
Speaker 3: we've been like wired. Our you twenty is doing well.
Speaker 3: And the fact that they get bronze, they beat the Netherlands,
Speaker 3: a country that we've been told is caught up to us,
Speaker 3: went farther than Spain, a country that we've been told
Speaker 3: has surpassed us with players by the way who were
Speaker 3: playing in NWSL, a league that we were told isn't
Speaker 3: good enough to compete with the rest of the world.
Speaker 3: That is, that is truly the wonderful thing here.
Speaker 1: Also, let's see so running through the superlatives. Ali Center's
Speaker 1: goal her third of the Women's World Cup after her
Speaker 1: goal in Germany was changed to an og twelfth of
Speaker 1: her U twenty career, also scored in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two U twenty Women's World Cup, ends her U twenty
Speaker 1: career with four World Cup goals. Geselle Thompson's assists her
Speaker 1: second of attorney Pietro Tordin, leading scorer in the tournament,
Speaker 1: finishes her U twenty career six goals in thirteen U
Speaker 1: twenty caps. Dudley scores twice, giving her five U twenty
Speaker 1: goals and thirteen appearances.
Speaker 2: Local whoop woop. I think that's what the kids do
Speaker 2: these days?
Speaker 1: Did they still did the whoop poop when they celebrate
Speaker 1: Euni McCormick two goals to assists all the tournament awards
Speaker 1: announced after the twenty four FIFA U twenty Women's World
Speaker 1: Cup Final in Bogata featuring Korea and Japan. Teagan why
Speaker 1: A backup in twenty twenty two Stellar Roll Tournament, several
Speaker 1: key saves contributing to the eventual bronze medal. So twenty
Speaker 1: six to eleven in shots, nine on three shots on goal,
Speaker 1: two saves for the US compared to eight for the Netherlands.
Speaker 1: Seventeen corner kicks for the US match.
Speaker 3: That's pretty a performance against the Netherlands. Now, granted it's
Speaker 3: a bronze medal match, but you know that that is
Speaker 3: also john kind of the mentality building, a rebuilding, I
Speaker 3: should say of this program, where you know, in the
Speaker 3: past the US women always take bronze medal game. Seriously,
Speaker 3: that is just as important to walk away with the
Speaker 3: medal at any level, right, And so to see the
Speaker 3: girls come out with such a powerful and meaningful performance
Speaker 3: in a match that most teams wouldn't really care about, right,
Speaker 3: I think that's fair to say the third place match.
Speaker 4: Is generally just like we're here.
Speaker 3: That's great again, rebuilding the mentality, the winning mentality of
Speaker 3: the program.
Speaker 1: Uh and you know the beauty of staring at my
Speaker 1: mail means this. We actually have even more breaking news,
Speaker 1: and it's a venue announcement. US Soccer selects Saint Lewis
Speaker 1: to host critical CONCACAF Nations League quarterfinal November eighteen. So
Speaker 1: US Soccer has selected Saint Louis, mo well that.
Speaker 4: That actually is a good I think that's a good location.
Speaker 3: Saint Louis, you know, has proven to be a pretty
Speaker 3: well supported MLS team, and it makes sense to go
Speaker 3: from Saint Louis to probably a Central American country looking
Speaker 3: like Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, maybe Jamaica.
Speaker 1: Maybe A kickoff for City Park set for eight o'clock
Speaker 1: on November eighteen. Match broadcast on every network imaginable.
Speaker 3: I think the problem is they had to fly in
Speaker 3: and out of Saint Louis International, which is by far
Speaker 3: one of the worst experiences.
Speaker 2: And Lambert so Lambert Lambert has not improved. Huh.
Speaker 3: They spend all the money on the other side of
Speaker 3: the state for that airport approval.
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Speaker 1: there you go. So it's heading to Saint Louis for
Speaker 1: the week before Thanksgiving to find out what's what's.
Speaker 2: Going on the ooh that.
Speaker 3: Is right after the let me look at my schedule
Speaker 3: real quick. Yeah, that's the Monday after.
Speaker 4: Georgia host Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you see, now you got it. You
Speaker 1: gotta get your money squared away.
Speaker 3: No, you gotta figure out which when you're going to
Speaker 3: if you're you're a Tennessee U g A or US soccer.
Speaker 2: Fan, well, or you could just whip out. You could
Speaker 2: whip out your visa card.
Speaker 4: And sit there and go, this is gonna get I'm
Speaker 4: sure that's why they want you to use it.
Speaker 2: A plastic vacation exactly.
Speaker 1: Uh okay, so I'm going to uh tell you why
Speaker 1: don't we build to it?
Speaker 2: All right? So what do you what do you want
Speaker 2: to handle? First? Do you want to handle?
Speaker 4: I wanna? I want to handle. We'll get into We'll
Speaker 4: get into Atlanta United. Let's do that one first.
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna do that one first, okay. So
Speaker 2: here's what we do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna replay, and like I said, this is the
Speaker 1: network version. This is the network call of Callum and
Speaker 1: Kaylan for goal number four. Callum and Cale. I know
Speaker 1: Calum and Calen. Uh and so this is Callum is
Speaker 1: Callum Williams and Kaylen Carr. This is their call from
Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus and MLS Soccer goal number four from
Speaker 1: the match this weekend. And I know that you already
Speaker 1: had some interaction with folks on social media about this
Speaker 1: particular play.
Speaker 2: So here we go.
Speaker 1: Provided I, oh, I don't know, maybe if I turned
Speaker 1: the damn volume up, people.
Speaker 2: Would have heard the thing.
Speaker 1: Good Lord, you're sitting there, you turn the music down,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's down, and then you
Speaker 1: turn the music back up, and then nothing's there. So anyway, Uh,
Speaker 1: now that I've got the volume back up, let's try
Speaker 1: it again once again, courtesy of our friends at Apple
Speaker 1: TV plus and Major look and have him.
Speaker 2: Settled for anything?
Speaker 5: In this one he's continued to change the team pretty much.
Speaker 2: The tale.
Speaker 5: We're just out a minute, stop well ten town something.
Speaker 5: It's the center back, no one I love him stands
Speaker 5: this up to Tillanne.
Speaker 2: Listen. It's a courageous header from him. He was disappointed
Speaker 2: they didn't take all three points.
Speaker 1: In it's nothing like It's like, okay, I turned the
Speaker 1: music down, but it don't turn the loop off anyway,
Speaker 1: so you got to hear it. Kind of one plus anyway,
Speaker 1: I know that. And as I mentioned in our number one,
Speaker 1: you're a fan. You're a fan of the Grand Final,
Speaker 1: the Grand Finals coming up in Australian rules football. And
Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest, looking at that play, I swear
Speaker 1: to god, the only thing missing was the play by
Speaker 1: play with Callum and Kellen going it's a mark you know?
Speaker 1: Is something like that from Australians? What in the blue
Speaker 1: hell play?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I understand why Atlanta U added fans went
Speaker 3: let's be called a foul.
Speaker 4: It does appear that.
Speaker 3: The headache the attacker jumps on top of Omador.
Speaker 4: It does appear that he.
Speaker 3: Invades maybe his vertical personal space, oh personal vertical space.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, whatever modifier needs to be in. However, I
Speaker 3: think the issue that we're looking at here is the
Speaker 3: attacker doesn't use his arms or any other part of
Speaker 3: his body to gain that aerial advantage. And the other
Speaker 3: problem is Amador is backing up. He is moving backwards,
Speaker 3: possibly into the same vertical space that we're claiming he occupies.
Speaker 3: That vertical space may be occupied by the attacker at
Speaker 3: that point in time, I really didn't have an issue
Speaker 3: with this not being called I'll be quite honest, because
Speaker 3: it didn't seem to me that he used any sort
Speaker 3: of unfair advantage outside of apparently being able to jump
Speaker 3: like an NBA player. And while we want to be
Speaker 3: upset that he eventually does contact, that contact is mainly
Speaker 3: because Amodor backs up into him. He seems to be
Speaker 3: the one who has gained control of that space. And again,
Speaker 3: he doesn't use his arms. He doesn't like push off
Speaker 3: of them, he doesn't push into them.
Speaker 4: It looked fairly legal. I'm really sorry, guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like I said, I mean that that it turned
Speaker 2: into a h it turned into an issue and turned
Speaker 2: into a hot button topic for goal number four.
Speaker 3: But it did, and it's not not controversial. I just
Speaker 3: think that as the referee, you look across.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 3: You know you have some advantage with the ar right,
Speaker 3: but if you don't see the actual foul. Again, we
Speaker 3: don't see him pushing down. You have an ar there
Speaker 3: who could have possibly given you.
Speaker 4: Some direction as well.
Speaker 3: But it it just seemed to me that he won
Speaker 3: the position one control of that space before Amador got there.
Speaker 3: And when you look at it on broadcast, you can
Speaker 3: clearly see to me that he is moving in this
Speaker 3: way amin or is moving that way, and he is
Speaker 3: just the one jumping and he doesn't necessarily fly into him.
Speaker 3: He goes fairly straight up and down, which is another
Speaker 3: thing that we are kind of looking for. You know,
Speaker 3: it's not quite the same as basketball. We do try
Speaker 3: to make sure that you have you know.
Speaker 4: Your vertical space.
Speaker 2: But so the principle of verticality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the principle of verticality is still somewhat applies, but
Speaker 3: again you have to be in control of that vertical space.
Speaker 3: And I don't think Amador got it unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Okay, Like I said that, this is I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back and watch the match, and then I will go
Speaker 1: back and I will zuppruder the film so I can
Speaker 1: sit there and see principles of verticality.
Speaker 2: If there any advantages or gained or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, the other element of the weekend, and this gives
Speaker 1: us a chance to kind of talk about things in
Speaker 1: the the Premier League as well, since we already talked
Speaker 1: about the possible takeover of Everton. Oh my god, one
Speaker 1: of the world's national nightmares might actually be over by
Speaker 1: the Freakin Group and that creates another nightmare. Just ask Nick,
Speaker 1: I'm sure is the matchup with Arsenal and Manchester City.
Speaker 1: So first and foremost, where Comma Sircama capital s were
Speaker 1: you when this match was going on?
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: Running after teenagers amount of soccer field being yelled at
Speaker 3: by various of them.
Speaker 2: God lord, oh boy, so you got you had to
Speaker 2: You had to watch this on like later.
Speaker 3: And I yeah, I had to check with it on
Speaker 3: my fot mob map as I'm going app as I'm
Speaker 3: going around and games. I thought for a second about
Speaker 3: asking one of the boys on the bench.
Speaker 4: Like, Hey, who's got a phone? You can give me
Speaker 4: an update QUI. There was some hot takes.
Speaker 3: Some of them included Messi as only a top ten
Speaker 3: player by the way, And I didn't I was on
Speaker 3: the line for that game, and I I I didn't
Speaker 3: jump into the conversation, but I was, Wow.
Speaker 4: Messi is only a top ten planet. Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I wanted to we may have to
Speaker 2: do this two separate.
Speaker 3: Ways and talk about Michael Oliver. I think that's a
Speaker 3: good place to start. I think that's the best way
Speaker 3: to start this discussion of this match.
Speaker 1: Sure, because there were a couple of moments where Michael
Speaker 1: Oliver kind of perhaps mentally went walk about as a
Speaker 1: as a middle official.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And what I said to folks before you were coming
Speaker 1: in is that we might have to do this two ways.
Speaker 2: We might have to do this.
Speaker 1: With you with your rose colored arsenal glasses on, and
Speaker 1: with you being as neutrals.
Speaker 4: I do think I'm neutral in this sense, right.
Speaker 3: I think Michael Oliver had a not very.
Speaker 4: Good day at the office. I think that's fair to say.
Speaker 3: I think he struggled to maintain for himself the lines
Speaker 3: that he he himself drew.
Speaker 2: He actually drew lines.
Speaker 3: What wait a minute, right, and watching it back, you know,
Speaker 3: listening to the commentary, they were and you can tell
Speaker 3: this is coming from you know, I think it was
Speaker 3: is it grammarly who was doing it? But coming from
Speaker 3: a former professional player, it was frustrating for them to
Speaker 3: watch a referee not be able to keep consistency, but
Speaker 3: not just consistency and like, oh, you know, not just
Speaker 3: calling fouls or not. Because I think he did an
Speaker 3: okay enough job of like trying to keep fouls at
Speaker 3: a level, right, he lets some physicality go. But the
Speaker 3: problem is some of his decisions about how he managed
Speaker 3: the game, who he talked to, what yellow cards were
Speaker 3: and weren't given, were problematic.
Speaker 4: And again I think.
Speaker 3: Part of his issue was, just as Ropes puts out
Speaker 3: in the comments, it was a little bit main character syndrome.
Speaker 3: He felt he had to be the one to control
Speaker 3: the match and that is his job, but he didn't
Speaker 3: do a good enough job of controlling himself within the match,
Speaker 3: and that happens sometimes. I will be the first to
Speaker 3: say I had this issue on my third game. Now,
Speaker 3: granted I'm doing three games. Michael Oliver gets won and
Speaker 3: gets paid a hell of a lot more money.
Speaker 4: Than I do.
Speaker 3: But I had this issue with my third game on
Speaker 3: Sunday where I was tired. It was ninety seven thousand
Speaker 3: degrees and kids and parents are going around yapp in
Speaker 3: the whole time, and I'm just like, y'all need to stop.
Speaker 4: So I gave a lot of yellow cards for dissent.
Speaker 4: It felt good.
Speaker 2: Parents yellow cards, bang wish.
Speaker 4: I gave the coach yellow card.
Speaker 3: He got mad that I called a penalty kick for
Speaker 3: his team. I'll talk about that later, but it was
Speaker 3: it was a problem with him not controlling himself. I
Speaker 3: think that was really what it was. He was unable
Speaker 3: to keep himself at an even cool thing.
Speaker 2: He didn't control himself.
Speaker 4: He was not an even temperament.
Speaker 3: He was not in a consistent frame of mind himself,
Speaker 3: And I think that is where we got into the trouble, where,
Speaker 3: you know, some things were conversations, some things were fouls,
Speaker 3: some things were yellow cards, some things were let go
Speaker 3: completely uh, And he seemed to the fouls themselves were okay, right.
Speaker 3: I think most people you can watch, oh okay, some
Speaker 3: fowls were let go some more, but like that's gonna
Speaker 3: happen on any match.
Speaker 4: It's the all the other stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, he's chatting up players in the box who
Speaker 3: are just happened to be standing next to each other,
Speaker 3: you know. But then on the goal that Arsenal scores
Speaker 3: to go up to one before the half, Kyle Walker
Speaker 3: sitting there slapping Gabrielle Martinelli.
Speaker 4: No, Gabrielle.
Speaker 3: Magas you know, before the match, before the kick happens,
Speaker 3: and Gabrielle gets one up on him as scores. But
Speaker 3: it's like, so, why aren't you discussing that, which is
Speaker 3: clearly a player trying to antagonize an opponent. But two
Speaker 3: players who hapen to just stand next to each other
Speaker 3: in the box is fine, Like those types of Okay,
Speaker 3: well which.
Speaker 4: One are you commenting on? Right?
Speaker 3: And it happened to all game where it was like, well, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, Thomas Party maybe got away with something.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Granted, Rodery, I don't know what he was doing in
Speaker 3: this game, because it seemed like he was just ready
Speaker 3: to fall to the ground anytime someone looked at him.
Speaker 4: Weirdoll and then an incident at.
Speaker 3: The very beginning set the tone for Michael Oliver the
Speaker 3: whole match, but also set the tone for what City
Speaker 3: and Arsenal were trying to do. City was trying to
Speaker 3: play the victim and Arsenal was trying to play the aggressor.
Speaker 3: And you saw that throughout the entire match, and Oliver
Speaker 3: didn't really address either part side until he decided to
Speaker 3: just give yellow cards for I don't know what he
Speaker 3: was giving yellow cards for sometimes, you know, And we
Speaker 3: can talk about that particular incident of Troussard second yellow.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was.
Speaker 3: Also a great example of Oliver not holding any light.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he his his The only thing consistent was his inconsistency.
Speaker 1: I guess, uh you had there. There were a couple
Speaker 1: of moments that have stuck out with folks and uh
Speaker 1: and the I think the the larger element in all
Speaker 1: of this was Michael Oliver's lack of consistency. And you're
Speaker 1: wondering where the line is in any given moment.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like drawing a line in the sand
Speaker 3: during the sandstorm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of what it was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or being the turf apparently at h at the
Speaker 1: plow Lane with Wimbledon after a flood.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: It don't remind me as a remember the Dons trust God,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be expensive to fix, and apparently it might
Speaker 1: be a sinkhole. Okay, so a couple of moments. Let
Speaker 1: me then this is gonna be random. It probably won't
Speaker 1: be in time order.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: So Manchester United scores, City equalizes, it won Aerling. Holland
Speaker 1: decides he wants to pick up the soccer ball and uh, sorry.
Speaker 2: I think this was too two. Sorry in my bed.
Speaker 1: One of the equalizers where Holland picks up the ball
Speaker 1: throws it at Gabriel's.
Speaker 3: Head was the equalizer at the very end. Yeah, lately, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's nothing by this. This this is not the first
Speaker 3: time Holland has done something not disagreeious, but he has
Speaker 3: a tendency to show boat after uh you know, I
Speaker 3: mean truly taunt opponents after goals. This is not the
Speaker 3: first time he's done this. And to throw the ball
Speaker 3: at the back of someone's head like that, that is
Speaker 3: possibly violent conduct. I'm sorry that just that cannot be unchecked.
Speaker 1: And that went without any kind of repercussion or anything.
Speaker 2: It's just like you threw it.
Speaker 1: I mean literally, You've got players with jerseys over here,
Speaker 1: you know, throws the throws the ball. I want to
Speaker 1: ask about uh, the the Califiori equalizer? Okay, where you
Speaker 1: have literally and because of once again not knowing where
Speaker 1: the line is and not knowing where conversations are and
Speaker 1: where where things are, where things stand, So Kyle Walker
Speaker 1: is apparently ordered over to speak to Michael Oliver, yes,
Speaker 1: and so called over, and then he doesn't have time
Speaker 1: to recover his position before Arsenal takes a quick free
Speaker 1: kick which leads to the equalizer, and you have a
Speaker 1: moment like that, and then after that you you see
Speaker 1: Kyle Walker and Pep Guardiola getting into it because Guardiola
Speaker 1: was furious, and I imagine that Kyle Walker is in
Speaker 1: turn saying, look, I would he called me over to
Speaker 1: talk to him. That's why I was out of position,
Speaker 1: knowing how positioning is so important for Pep Guardiola. When
Speaker 1: you have a player that you call over or any
Speaker 1: of your any of your friends and any any of
Speaker 1: your your officiating crew types, when you have a when
Speaker 1: you call a player over after a whistle in a
Speaker 1: you know, a free kick situation, what is your allowance
Speaker 1: for after the conversation is over? When is that moment
Speaker 1: happened for you and your in your cohorts and then
Speaker 1: how what's the spacing there to allow play to reset.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if there's a cut and dry answer.
Speaker 3: There does need to be for them. There should be
Speaker 3: a whistle for the restart or at least some indication
Speaker 3: of we're playing right.
Speaker 4: You do need to give that when you stop the match.
Speaker 2: There was one.
Speaker 4: There was either.
Speaker 3: And I did see I did physically see Michael Oliver
Speaker 3: do the you know, the arm play off like come play,
Speaker 3: but like he went, you.
Speaker 4: Know, up and back.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't an immediate Okay, we're done talking, keep playing.
Speaker 3: There was a couple seconds, but at the same time,
Speaker 3: you know, we're trying to get on the game.
Speaker 4: And I think the issue here was for.
Speaker 3: Was because Kyle Walker was out of position from where
Speaker 3: he normally would have been defending.
Speaker 4: But we can't penalize the team.
Speaker 3: That got the free kick because we need to wait
Speaker 3: for wait, we can't just wait for players to get
Speaker 3: back into position every single time. And that's the other
Speaker 3: kind of the tightrope that we're walking here is well,
Speaker 3: what is a fair amount of time to get back?
Speaker 3: But also you committed the foul, right and Arsenal had
Speaker 3: we not stop play to talk to Kyle Walker may
Speaker 3: have taken a freak a quick free kick anyway, and
Speaker 3: that's it's hard because you you don't want to give
Speaker 3: the attack, you don't want to nullify the attacking team's advantage, right,
Speaker 3: but you do want to try to be fair.
Speaker 4: And I don't think he didn't not have.
Speaker 3: Time, but he definitely hadn't didn't have time to get
Speaker 3: way back in position.
Speaker 4: But again, you're the foul was not.
Speaker 3: On the you know, right side, on the third, on
Speaker 3: the attacking third for Arsenal, Right, it was at mid field.
Speaker 3: Yes to me, I'm going, well, Kyle Walker was already
Speaker 3: out of position. So again, it's not fair for Arsenal
Speaker 3: to let Manchester City get set in a defensive formation
Speaker 3: after they've been given a free kick type of thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, ish housing, I want to get into that because
Speaker 1: that was something that uh, Manchester City was not too
Speaker 1: fond of. Was apparently the number of folks for Arsenal
Speaker 1: going down with alleged cramps, et cetera, et cetera. Once again,
Speaker 1: and going into this section, it is not something that
Speaker 1: you can you cannot assume if and correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong here. It is not something that as a
Speaker 1: center ref you can assume one hundred percent in the negative.
Speaker 1: You cannot assume ish housing. You have to give the
Speaker 1: player the benefit of the doubt. But you can take
Speaker 1: evidence in its empirical nature and appliet Am I wrong?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you can't be sure if a player
Speaker 3: is injured or not because in this game of soccer,
Speaker 3: people pick up knocks and cramps and pain painful things
Speaker 3: all the time. So you do have to allow them.
Speaker 3: You have to understand you have to allow them to
Speaker 3: have that right. But that doesn't mean that they can
Speaker 3: take forever. That doesn't mean you can.
Speaker 4: You need to wait for them to be okay.
Speaker 3: You as a referee can speed up the process. So
Speaker 3: it can either be you quickly call the training staff
Speaker 3: onto the field or you say you you get your
Speaker 3: watch out. Like a lot of MLS rules are trying
Speaker 3: to do, is quicken the time you're allowed to be
Speaker 3: injured basically right, And while the Premier League doesn't have
Speaker 3: that stipulation, you can you can be there as a reference.
Speaker 3: I well one, I'm atting the time. You know, you
Speaker 3: start keeping track right then and there and to say okay,
Speaker 3: well we need to get him off the field, so
Speaker 3: there are ways as a referee that you can make
Speaker 3: this quicker.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that Manchester City feels hard done by a
Speaker 3: Premier League thing, because I'm sure they've never had any
Speaker 3: advantages given to them by the Premier League or any
Speaker 3: other never, but they do have, you know, they have
Speaker 3: some level of gripe that Arsenal was trying to waste time,
Speaker 3: trying to you know, well but at the same time, right,
Speaker 3: but at the same time, they're just not used to
Speaker 3: being to losing at home because they get every single
Speaker 3: advantage that's ever been afforded to any team ever. So
Speaker 3: this I think it's more about them again playing the
Speaker 3: victim mentality here and saying, oh, well, how dare you
Speaker 3: not give us the benefit of the doubt when you
Speaker 3: know the other team is there's two teams on the field,
Speaker 3: and Manchester City forgets that there are other teams and
Speaker 3: they're allowed to do things too. But no, John, I
Speaker 3: mean that's the point, right. We've had this issue with
Speaker 3: Atlanta United where teams come in and they start wasting
Speaker 3: time and it's like, well, yeah, that's they're what they're
Speaker 3: going to do, you know, But.
Speaker 1: It's just set but it's up to the center f
Speaker 1: and the crew to understand where is housing is and
Speaker 1: al and navigate the rules them correctly to where the
Speaker 1: ish housing doesn't get out of control.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And then that was where I think Oliver again, yeah,
Speaker 3: unable to control the match very well. He didn't take
Speaker 3: measures to either control it or quicken it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Again, you can't stop a player from going down injured
Speaker 3: because again you don't know if they're entered or not.
Speaker 3: You can take measures to make that stoppage quicker.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And there is a yellow card given to a player
Speaker 3: on the bench for legedly telling of it right to
Speaker 3: go down, So clearly he wasn't he wasn't out of
Speaker 3: tune to this. You know, kid hasn't even played a
Speaker 3: minute of Premier League action and he's got a yellow card,
Speaker 3: which quite honestly not the not the dumbest thing that
Speaker 3: we've done that I mean to think about it.
Speaker 1: If there's there's a hold on the sidelines who hasn't
Speaker 1: played lick of action, right, and you're the manager, go
Speaker 1: to him and sit there and say, okay, I need
Speaker 1: you to say this, tell right, because A when's he
Speaker 1: gonna play? B when's he gonna get another four yellows
Speaker 1: to sit there and write off.
Speaker 2: I mean in a way that is brilliant.
Speaker 3: I mean, the seventeen year old who's really on the
Speaker 3: bench right now because of injuries and players missing time,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is like that's the thing, is like this
Speaker 4: is the ship housing that you know it?
Speaker 3: It happens right And again the referee, at least in
Speaker 3: this incident, said you can't do that and gave a
Speaker 3: yellow card for it. So I mean it's not like
Speaker 3: he didn't not deal with it. I don't think he
Speaker 3: did a good enough job of actually controlling when it happened.
Speaker 3: Because again, you can't stop a player from being injured.
Speaker 3: You can, however, make things a little bit quicker. And
Speaker 3: as he showed be in tune of is this the strategy?
Speaker 4: What is the coach saying now to.
Speaker 2: The moment that.
Speaker 1: We really wanted to get into here Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about Erling Holland telling the kill Arteta to stay
Speaker 1: humble after the match, and apparently that did show up
Speaker 1: on camera with audio, but the decision to dismiss Leandro Trossard, Yeah,
Speaker 1: with a second yellow he'd been booked for pulling Savigno back,
Speaker 1: and this is how it was worded in the telegram.
Speaker 1: Our Teta was furious about the decision to dismiss Trossard,
Speaker 1: who had already been booked for pulling back Savigno after
Speaker 1: decland Rice had been sent off in similar circumstances for
Speaker 1: kicking the ball away against Brighton.
Speaker 2: Sorry but the declan Rice, you don't do that. If
Speaker 2: it got seen, it got seen.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Dunkhu escaped censure in the game for kicking the
Speaker 1: ball away, although the City winger appeared to be kicking
Speaker 1: it towards the area he felt an Arsenal free kick
Speaker 1: should be taken.
Speaker 4: No matter, it's not your ball.
Speaker 1: Ur Teta said, quote, it's obvious. It's that obvious that
Speaker 1: it's not necessary to comment on it. It's the second
Speaker 1: time this season. I'm expecting one hundred Premier League games
Speaker 1: to be ten against eleven or nine y ten this season.
Speaker 1: Let's see, it's already happened twice in five games, which
Speaker 1: is very worrying to see in the best in the
Speaker 1: best league, the Premier League.
Speaker 2: So Trussard, because of.
Speaker 3: How it I will admit this is going to be
Speaker 3: hard for me to talk about because it's happened to
Speaker 3: us twice. And I think, more importantly, as mentioned in
Speaker 3: the article, the opponent did the same thing before. We
Speaker 3: got a yellow card for doing something, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: less egregious.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: For Trossard, I understand why it was called. You know,
Speaker 3: he kicked the ball away late. It felt more like
Speaker 3: a continuation of play. Sure it was after the whistle,
Speaker 3: that's fair. Yeah, what Djoku did was way more egregious.
Speaker 3: I don't care if you think, oh, well, it's back there,
Speaker 3: that's not your ball and it's not your job to
Speaker 3: do that, right, That's that's not how this works.
Speaker 4: Also, I can use then.
Speaker 3: Declar Rice was just kicking the ball away where he
Speaker 3: thought the fair kick should have been. That is a
Speaker 3: terrible terriffuse to use to excuse someone who, five seconds
Speaker 3: after the play has been called a foul, is kicking
Speaker 3: the ball away. And again that's the issue is Trossard
Speaker 3: looked like he was just continuing play.
Speaker 4: Now, I agree that could can be a yellow cart.
Speaker 3: The same thing we wanted in the Brighton game, when
Speaker 3: the player the ball goes out of play and he
Speaker 3: knocks the ball seventy yards down the field could be
Speaker 3: seen as a continuation to play. I don't know why
Speaker 3: you would knock the ball seventy yards down the field
Speaker 3: like that, but can be seen because it was a
Speaker 3: rather quick succession. And that's different, I think, than knocking
Speaker 3: the ball away for a free kick, right, because what
Speaker 3: Declan Rice did was.
Speaker 4: Not a continuation to play.
Speaker 3: That's very true. He knocked the ball away after a
Speaker 3: foulbon call. He's walking away, he sees the ball, he
Speaker 3: knocks away. I understand why a referee thing SUTs the
Speaker 3: yellow card. So what Djoku does is similar to what
Speaker 3: Rice does. But Rice gets penalized. But because Manchester City
Speaker 3: is Manchester City, they don't get it.
Speaker 4: But Trossard, who.
Speaker 3: Is continuing play, gets booked immediately, right, and more importantly,
Speaker 3: the foul itself probably also is in a yellow card
Speaker 3: given the context of the match. And that's the other
Speaker 3: issue is if the yellow cards for the foul, that's
Speaker 3: a really soft yellow card and the context of the
Speaker 3: match that he has called right, the yellow card for
Speaker 3: knocking the ball away when City players did something more egregious.
Speaker 4: Right, It's just it's hard. I know.
Speaker 3: You can say all Arsenal needs to learn their lesson,
Speaker 3: and I agree. The problem is again consistency, so other
Speaker 3: teams are allowed to do it without any real penance
Speaker 3: or any real.
Speaker 4: Adjudication from the referee at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, repercussion.
Speaker 3: Oliver even yelled at Arsenal about it when Joku did it.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to talk about it as an Arsenal fan
Speaker 3: because it has happened to us twice.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 3: It's frustrating because other teams do it and and our
Speaker 3: touch is correct. Is like, well, if we're gonna be this,
Speaker 3: if we're gonna police it this hard, yeah, then you're
Speaker 3: gonna have a lot of games where you're gonna have
Speaker 3: ten nine players on the field.
Speaker 4: And I think we go back the game last.
Speaker 3: Year between these two match these two teams when a
Speaker 3: City player was on a yellow card and did something
Speaker 3: that should have been deem does second yellow, but wasn't
Speaker 3: given because Michael Oliver quote didn't want to affect the game.
Speaker 3: Yet this in the first half. Now, again, tross Art
Speaker 3: shouldn't be putting yourself in this. You know, the first
Speaker 3: yellow card stopping a promising attack not great. Second yellow
Speaker 3: card avoidable. They're both avoidable. But again, why does one
Speaker 3: team get extra allowances, get extra room, but the other
Speaker 3: team doesn't.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's why I said, I figured we'd
Speaker 2: have to ask you the question two separate times, for you,
Speaker 2: the the Arsenal fan to discuss and for the ref
Speaker 2: to discuss. We do have the what's the mugge this morning?
Speaker 4: By the way, Sydney.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Yes, I remember that trip. I
Speaker 2: remember that I was.
Speaker 4: I was on I was down there.
Speaker 2: With with your late with your late night local time
Speaker 2: phone calls to us to.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So here's here's how Guardiola was asked about it, and
Speaker 1: Kyle Walker was asked about that moment after the match,
Speaker 1: the one that we.
Speaker 2: Discussed where Kyle's asked to come over.
Speaker 1: So Pep said in the future quote, I will say
Speaker 1: to my players, when the referee says, come and talk
Speaker 1: to me, we will not go end quote, but added
Speaker 1: that his players should have been compensated, should have compensated
Speaker 1: for the situation by reorganizing.
Speaker 2: So Pep is saying a.
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, if if a ref wants my player
Speaker 1: to come over, I'm going to tell him don't. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, his players should have reorganized. If
Speaker 1: Kyle Walker was going to talk to Michael Oliver. They
Speaker 1: should have had the foreign knowledge to reorganize to be
Speaker 1: prepared for something that short.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 4: That's the issue, right is I think.
Speaker 3: Again, even if the referee gives Walker a second two seconds,
Speaker 3: does that mean he's fully back and again, how does
Speaker 3: that affect the attacking team?
Speaker 1: So then Walker felt Oliver should have been given him,
Speaker 1: should have given him time to get back into position.
Speaker 1: Quote from Kyle. I'm not ever going to come on
Speaker 1: national TV, national radio and start slagging people off, because
Speaker 1: there's enough of that going on around in the world.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I've not gone over to the referee.
Speaker 1: Me and but Kyosaka have not gone over to the referee.
Speaker 1: He's called us over.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 1: So if I'm being called over to the referee, he
Speaker 1: then should wait and allow me to get back in
Speaker 1: position before the ball is then gone over my head.
Speaker 1: So if I go over to the referee by my
Speaker 1: own accord and I'm out of position, it's my fault.
Speaker 1: But I'm in position. He's called the two captains obviously
Speaker 1: to calm the players down. I'm walking back saying, lads,
Speaker 1: concentrate nothing stupid, make sure we get through this, the
Speaker 1: ball's then going over my head. Me and Mike have
Speaker 1: a very good relationship, and I think he has a
Speaker 1: very hard job, especially at the top level. So that's
Speaker 1: not me being critical of him. I know he has
Speaker 1: a hard enough job. He's got twenty two angry players
Speaker 1: screaming at him continuously. If he calls me over, if
Speaker 1: I go over of my own accord, fair enough, But
Speaker 1: for him to call both captains over and then not
Speaker 1: let me get back in position. If I was a goalkeeper,
Speaker 1: does he let me get back into my net? Of course,
Speaker 1: I'm a defender. I'm the first line of defense. He
Speaker 1: should let me get back in and be set and
Speaker 1: then blow the whistle.
Speaker 3: So he agrees that kaya Soaka should have been given
Speaker 3: time to get back into position to start making an attack. Okay,
Speaker 3: love that. Okay, so there you go. Uh So, I
Speaker 3: understand it. But this is what the laws of the
Speaker 3: game say. And this isn't specific to this instance, but
Speaker 3: this is kind of it falls under this category right
Speaker 3: delaying the restart to show a card. Once the referee
Speaker 3: has decided to caution or send off a player, play
Speaker 3: must not be restarted until the sanction has been administered.
Speaker 3: Unless the non if any team takes a quick free
Speaker 3: kick and has a clear goal scoring opportunity in the
Speaker 3: referee can wait to sanction the player until after his
Speaker 3: hat now, but once the sanction has started, all that
Speaker 3: it says is must not be restarted until after until
Speaker 3: the sanction has been administered. So in this case, he
Speaker 3: brings him over, he says, boys, stop it. You know,
Speaker 3: that's the sanction. He stops the conversation. Arsenal takes the kick.
Speaker 3: Now again, you you can absolutely say he's you know,
Speaker 3: I could have needed time to get back.
Speaker 4: I think that's fair.
Speaker 3: But both, especially in this case, both players were, both
Speaker 3: teams were involved in this right and so both players
Speaker 3: in theory are now down a player from this particular thing.
Speaker 3: It's not an unfair complaint from Kyle Walker, but again,
Speaker 3: what you it's not fair to the attacking team to
Speaker 3: let the the defending team get completely set to take
Speaker 3: a freaking you know.
Speaker 1: According to Rob Dawson earlier this morning, Erling Holland will
Speaker 1: not face punishment for them. Of course, Gabriel Mogelize in.
Speaker 3: Being the ball at someone, it's not at all sanctionable,
Speaker 3: but you know, kicking the ball slightly after the play
Speaker 3: that deserves the red card.
Speaker 1: So Dawson says the incident was missed by Michael Oliver
Speaker 1: spotted by v R. John Brooks, who decided it did
Speaker 1: not constitute violent conduct. Source told The Four Letter of
Speaker 1: the Fare happy that the incident was dealt with at
Speaker 1: the time in Holland will not face retrospective action.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they're very happy that Earling Holland will
Speaker 3: continue to play and not have to face any punishment
Speaker 3: because you know that serves the Premier League.
Speaker 2: Well well, and it serves my fantasy, just like just.
Speaker 3: Like not calling past interference in the end zone against
Speaker 3: the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Serves Oh boy, oh brother.
Speaker 1: I mean that's uh yeah, that's a that's a diff
Speaker 1: that's a different kind of reffing down here.
Speaker 2: That's for the college football side.
Speaker 3: I don't have a certification in that, so I won't speak,
Speaker 3: but I'll just say, I don't know, man, look looked
Speaker 3: a little fishy.
Speaker 2: Well like I said that.
Speaker 1: That's that's We talked about that on the college football
Speaker 1: side on Sunday mornings and Tuesday night, So that's that's
Speaker 1: when that one gets discussed. Anything else from a a
Speaker 1: refing perspective or a national perspective. Stick a feather in
Speaker 1: your cap from this weekend.
Speaker 4: However, however, well, well know I love how that came
Speaker 4: back again.
Speaker 2: Wait, hang on, see you got to set me up
Speaker 2: for something like that.
Speaker 3: Hit it, I do credit Tory Penso. I thought that
Speaker 3: what we're seeing from MLS referees finally is a good
Speaker 3: cadence to delivering decisions.
Speaker 4: I thought pen So did a good job.
Speaker 3: What's it our penalty of their penalty, the penalty they
Speaker 3: got where explain exactly what happened?
Speaker 4: Right, give some sort of context?
Speaker 3: Right, this player did this? Therefore this right? And I
Speaker 3: thought penco a good job of Like, okay, this player
Speaker 3: was in an offside position. Okay, cool, we understand that. However, great, Okay,
Speaker 3: So we're explaining the decision, right, That's the point of
Speaker 3: these calls using the microphones is to explain the decision.
Speaker 4: And we've seen.
Speaker 3: We've seen how NFL and college officials find ways to
Speaker 3: better explain things succinctly, but in a detailed and uniform way. Right,
Speaker 3: More than just the college confirmed the calls overruled the
Speaker 3: call stands, right, Like.
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 3: Fine in some stances, right, like if you were to
Speaker 3: not if you were to have given a penalty kick
Speaker 3: in that sense, because probably deserved a penalty kick.
Speaker 4: I think that was.
Speaker 3: Fortune maybe who Yeah, it was Fortune who filed?
Speaker 4: I forget who was the attacker for New York.
Speaker 3: Had you called that in real time, all you need
Speaker 3: to say is after review the penalty kick is confirmed, boom,
Speaker 3: we're done. But if you're changing a call, you need
Speaker 3: to provide good communication as to why. And I thought
Speaker 3: Penso did it well. I thought Diyitch did a good
Speaker 3: job in Saint Louis it using the however, Yes, it's sase,
Speaker 3: but it.
Speaker 4: Does explain things well.
Speaker 3: And especially in both of those instances, Duych had to
Speaker 3: go back and say, like, well, all these things were fine, however.
Speaker 4: There was a foul before that, which there was.
Speaker 3: Penzo also had to use the however to explain why, Yes,
Speaker 3: player was in an off side position, but because I
Speaker 3: didn't interfere with play, wasn't offside, which is how it works.
Speaker 4: You can be in an off side position.
Speaker 3: It is not an offense in itself to be in
Speaker 3: an off side position, as the laws of the game say.
Speaker 1: One other thing before the rest of your Monday is
Speaker 1: as you wish, according to our friends of the Canadian
Speaker 1: press CBC at all and that is our Latin search
Speaker 1: for firm for today, that is at ali e or
Speaker 1: at ali us and others. Nearly two months after announcing
Speaker 1: it into an external review into the Paris Olympics drone
Speaker 1: spying scandal, Canada Soccer, like everyone else, is waiting on
Speaker 1: its findings.
Speaker 2: This is the word from the CP.
Speaker 1: Canada women's coach Bev Prieseman, assistant coach Jasmine Mander, and
Speaker 1: analyst Joseph Lombardi are serving one year fifis suspensions in
Speaker 1: the wake of New Zealand's Olympic committee filing a complaint
Speaker 1: with the IOC's Integrity Unit alleging drones were flown over
Speaker 1: a pair of pre tournament practice sessions. Manda and Lombardi
Speaker 1: were sent home immediately. Priestsmen initially removed yourself from coaching
Speaker 1: the opening match, but left the team after allegations of
Speaker 1: a wider culture of spying. FIFA subsequently banned all three
Speaker 1: quote from taking part in any football related activity for
Speaker 1: a period of one year end quote. Canada Soccer announced
Speaker 1: plans for the independent problem in July twenty fourth, saying
Speaker 1: it would address the circumstances of the current matter, and
Speaker 1: more broadly, we'll seek to understand the historical culture of
Speaker 1: competitive ethics within all of our programs. The outcome of
Speaker 1: this review will be shared publicly and corrective actions, if necessary,
Speaker 1: will be taken. More than eight weeks later, Canada Soccer
Speaker 1: is still waiting for information to share the up Priestman comma.
Speaker 1: While suspended, Comma continues to get paid. Bev Priestman remains
Speaker 1: a paid staff member of Canada Soccer, penning the conclusions
Speaker 1: of the review, Canada Soccer said in a statement to
Speaker 1: the Canadian Press July thirty one, Canada Soccer announced did
Speaker 1: to retain Sony Reagenbogan from the law firm of Matthews,
Speaker 1: Dinsdale and Clark to handle the review. And as we
Speaker 1: wait for the review, Bev Priestman is still getting paid.
Speaker 4: That came out a couple of days contending me to
Speaker 4: get a paycheck.
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing that basically this goes along the lines
Speaker 1: of of you know, innocent until proven guilty or the
Speaker 1: review is over, and then then we will decide that
Speaker 1: we will not pay you any further.
Speaker 2: So basically I think what will.
Speaker 3: End up happening is I don't see how Bout Priestman
Speaker 3: continues as head coach.
Speaker 1: If I don't see how she continues as a paid
Speaker 1: coach in any kind of shepherds space sucks for her.
Speaker 3: Because it does feel like this was put in place
Speaker 3: before she arrived, but she definitely continued it.
Speaker 2: And how is John her still employed? I know review.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 3: That's the other thing that I do wonder what will
Speaker 3: come from this is just how long this has been
Speaker 3: going on because beb Priestman, though she's been in charge,
Speaker 3: you know for uh four years now, she's got to
Speaker 3: believe she was in charge for the twenty Yeah, she
Speaker 3: was in charge for the Olympics in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4: So three years, I guess total.
Speaker 3: That that's enough time for you to put a stop
Speaker 3: to something. But you continued it clearly. And again it
Speaker 3: does have to color the fact that y'all won gold
Speaker 3: in Tokyo. It just does. I hate to say it,
Speaker 3: but it does. And I know, you know, vacated national
Speaker 3: titles that don't matter. I still remember, you know, teams
Speaker 3: winning national titles. But it does call in This calls
Speaker 3: into question more than you know, Reggie Bush taking some
Speaker 3: money for some things.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, just same.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought it was an interesting newspeg that
Speaker 1: came out before the weekend started. Abby is inviting you
Speaker 1: outside the perimeter for the twos match tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I mean the invitation has been extended, but that's as
Speaker 3: far as it's going to go.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, all right, so let's see.
Speaker 1: So is there anything else on your mind before the
Speaker 1: rest of your day continues? Like I said, a priestman
Speaker 1: thing was something like that. Oh yeah, that came up
Speaker 1: to good.
Speaker 3: Nope, we got us men coming up in let's see
Speaker 3: two weeks ten, the first Pochettino matches. He's done the
Speaker 3: media tours. Everyone's liking what we're hearing. I do want
Speaker 3: to point out, actually, John, I want to point out
Speaker 3: in his introductory press conference he said we need to
Speaker 3: believe we can win the World Cup, right, But then
Speaker 3: I think it was I forget who he was on with,
Speaker 3: did kind of not walk it back, but say, look,
Speaker 3: our goal is a quarterfinal, and I think people kind
Speaker 3: of were like, well he was already walking it back,
Speaker 3: and it's like, no, no.
Speaker 4: There are those are two different things, because.
Speaker 3: You should believe we can win the World Cup and
Speaker 3: go try to win the World Cup. But understand that, Look,
Speaker 3: if we do this, we've done a good job. Right,
Speaker 3: that is passing. But you want to get an A
Speaker 3: on every project, right, that's the goal. Right, So an
Speaker 3: A would be winning the World Cup, A C would
Speaker 3: be okay, well make a quarterfinal or you know, maybe
Speaker 3: more depending on Probably a quarterfinal might be a B.
Speaker 2: At this point, I was going to say, is the quarterfinals?
Speaker 3: And I mean literally, that's probably what it is, right,
Speaker 3: But that if that's that's more like the benchmark, I
Speaker 3: think is the better way to put it. Right, That
Speaker 3: is what we're justifying. That's what we're measuring ourselves by.
Speaker 3: If we don't reach that, then we have failed. Right,
Speaker 3: that's what that is. But that doesn't mean you're not
Speaker 3: trying to win the World Cup.
Speaker 4: Because I got news for you.
Speaker 3: To win the World Cup, you got to make the quarterfinals.
Speaker 2: Last time I checked.
Speaker 3: It, according to the brackets I've drawn up for turn
Speaker 3: as I've hosted in tournaments I've played in. You know,
Speaker 3: that's just how it works. So I think he is
Speaker 3: still proving that the mentality needs to be I mean,
Speaker 3: he talks about arrogance, you know, the right type of arrogance.
Speaker 3: This is the mentality that we needed from Jurgen Klansman
Speaker 3: that he didn't bring. He brought his own arrogance and
Speaker 3: not any real structure behind it.
Speaker 4: And hopefully Pachettino can.
Speaker 3: Bring that level of competitiveness adding the structure of actually
Speaker 3: playing good soccer, something that Jurgen Clansmen failed to do.
Speaker 3: But it is shocking John that this is the first
Speaker 3: ever US men's national team head coach from Latin America
Speaker 3: when we've had, I mean, especially Argentinians like they've Argentina
Speaker 3: produces great coaches.
Speaker 2: M h.
Speaker 4: Never gone there for a head coach anyway.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the twenty first century.
Speaker 1: Well, welcome to the new as uh, as the Alec
Speaker 1: Baldwin told Marco Ramius at the end of the hunt
Speaker 1: for Red October as they're going into the harbor and Maine.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the new world.
Speaker 4: Welcome to the new world. Yes, yes, so, well you
Speaker 4: all enjoy your Monday.
Speaker 2: All right? So what's what's up with the soccer for USP?
Speaker 3: I think we're taking the week off and then we'll
Speaker 3: probably come back next week when we get closer to.
Speaker 4: Actual games.
Speaker 2: There you go, nothing's wrong with that, all right?
Speaker 1: Then take the week off, enjoy your time, and know
Speaker 1: that special people get special privileges, and.
Speaker 4: Abby is special. But I'm not driving out to Kennesoft
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 2: Abby.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. You're you're wonderful, but I'm not doing that
Speaker 4: on Tuesday night. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That actually might
Speaker 4: be referring tomorrow. We're going to see if that happens,
Speaker 4: so that might be it.
Speaker 2: All right, well, all right, be good.