1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Brad Winderbaum. I'm not sure we're talking about a couple 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,080 of times, but I'll mention him a lot more as 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,639 we go along, because just because I think we all 4 00:00:07,719 --> 00:00:10,160 kind of think like sounds weird. It sounds weird to 5 00:00:10,279 --> 00:00:11,359 just like a couple of years ago, be like, oh, 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,359 the MC's on Disney plus the Endgame to like now 7 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:14,800 we're kind of like, oh, we think Figgy in the 8 00:00:14,839 --> 00:00:16,839 next few year is probably done. But either way, so 9 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,719 Brad Winderbaum is like the TV Figgy. He's right now 10 00:00:19,839 --> 00:00:22,320 in charge of that, So he's probably somebody that like, Hey, 11 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,760 if FIGI were to go, you're looking at like that's 12 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,320 a potential good replacement, right, But I'm trying to think, Okay, 13 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:28,760 here we go. 14 00:00:28,719 --> 00:00:30,039 Speaker 2: So I want to bring up so he's all I 15 00:00:30,079 --> 00:00:31,640 don't feel like I don't recognize his name. Is he 16 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:33,759 a producer around all these things? He would be for 17 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,200 all the. 18 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Most of the TV stuff. I think he's worked on 19 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:39,399 some of the movie stuff. But I'm trying to find. 20 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: I guess to the movies, I pay more attention because 21 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 I'm waiting for the post credit where is the TV? 22 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Yes show? 23 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: Like I gotta get to this cast and Yeah. 24 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: So this is about Disney plus doing kind of overhaul 25 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:52,320 and yeah, because Daredevil's coming out right now, he's doing 26 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,320 the rounds and stuff, so's he's the one that announced 27 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,079 the Punisher special. And just in quick two little notes, 28 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,600 he did confirm that your Friendly Neighborhood Spiman season two 29 00:01:00,759 --> 00:01:02,399 and X Men ninety seven season two are going to 30 00:01:02,439 --> 00:01:03,840 be out next year. So it's kind of great to 31 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,280 have those. Plan Office ninety seven was a little longer 32 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:09,439 as they've gone through a lot of changes, and then 33 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,719 they say their plans to try and have Spider Man 34 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:15,319 out yearly, so that's that's kind of their goal to 35 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,799 get that happening. So that's kind of good and that 36 00:01:16,879 --> 00:01:19,159 kind of goes into their plan here because so they 37 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:22,640 asked about Moonnight season two because also we talked about 38 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,879 that as well stream and everything like that, so someone 39 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,840 asked them. Then here's the full quoty. So, so I 40 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,000 think Marvel Television has happened in ways. I think Moonnight 41 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,400 happened in waves of shows that we're going to establish 42 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,879 characters that would tie in to the future and moving forward, 43 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,519 our priorities have shifted. We're making shows as shows that 44 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:43,040 can exist as annual releases more like television. 45 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: Always going to make shows as shows. 46 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,239 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I want to talk about. I would 47 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:48,959 love to see Moon Night season two, but there are 48 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,519 plans for Moonnight down the road. They also know that 49 00:01:52,519 --> 00:01:54,680 it was big news, but they show he said that 50 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,040 we told was long time ago that a Koy show 51 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:00,239 that they never had on the slate, but it was 52 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,640 announced in like a press release or something that's off 53 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:04,560 the table, but same things like you'll see her soon. 54 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,319 But that's what I just thought. It was interesting of 55 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:09,879 we've talked about like Disney Plus and that started with 56 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,639 those you know, like we had big things like Loki 57 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:14,960 wanted fucking his sholdier, like these characters in the movies 58 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,719 that were side characters always wanted more. But then Disney 59 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:20,000 Plus was the way to do it and we got them. 60 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:22,360 But then we slowly after a year to realize like, hey, 61 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,800 there's they're very small episodes at time, and there's like 62 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,240 a weird pacing to them, and there's a lot of 63 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,639 setup for like you gotta watch Wanta Vision two really 64 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,439 know what's going on Doctor Strange right, thought Winter Soldier 65 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,800 they have to do a five minute catch up in 66 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,759 Captain America. So now I feel like it's one of 67 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,759 these things where and who knows what their mandate when 68 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Disney Plus came out, but it really does sound like 69 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:47,280 with the head of TV saying this, it just sounds 70 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:50,000 like the first maybe three years of Disney Plus was 71 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,960 just like, Hey, these are movies that we'd like to make, 72 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,159 but we wouldn't want to, like they don't have fate, 73 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Like they probably wouldn't be like let's put the Wanta 74 00:02:58,599 --> 00:03:00,400 Vision movie out because maybe they think they a bomb, 75 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,800 so let's do it on TV. Where now it's like 76 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,000 you got Daredevil, got Daredevil Season two come out, and 77 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:07,240 like Spider Man, they're saying, hey, our plans do that yearly, 78 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,319 So what do you think about Now it sounds like 79 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:14,199 we're gonna get away from those like the Low Kis, 80 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,599 the Wanta Visions, and all those shows that were like 81 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,360 connected to the movies. Now it feels like we're it's 82 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,479 finally because I was listening to our Jessica Jones season 83 00:03:21,479 --> 00:03:23,599 three review day just to hear what we thought. We're 84 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,360 kind of going. 85 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,439 Speaker 3: Full back to like I always forget the Sea the final. 86 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: One and know what's so funny When we were reviewing 87 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,719 that I forgot that they had announced it was canceled 88 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:35,439 before we even watched it, So that's something that I 89 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:37,800 didn't even remember. Yeah, so we went in that season 90 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:40,400 knowing it was canceled. But my point is it's like 91 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,719 it feels like we're just going back there now of 92 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:47,520 we're gonna have shows on TV that they could cross over, 93 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:49,719 but not the same way of like hey, we're using 94 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:53,400 Wanda and she's setting up Doctor Strange too. This feels like, hey, 95 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:57,000 we're doing Daredevil and Daredevil's gonna be Daredevil for the 96 00:03:57,039 --> 00:03:59,240 most part, it's not like Daredevil then to set up 97 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,039 He's inspirement might happen. But what do you think about 98 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,800 this that? And even Moonnight now it sounds like the 99 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,120 Moon Night Show was just to introduce them for the movies. 100 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:09,439 And even Winterbom says, like, I like a season two, 101 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:11,400 but they have plans for him. So it's just like 102 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:13,240 which we probably think is Midnight Suns or something. But 103 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,160 that's a fascinating thing to me to think of. The 104 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,439 early Disney Plus was just like kind of really movies 105 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,000 chopped up and put up on there in. 106 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,319 Speaker 3: A sense, you know, very true, very true. 107 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I feel like, looking at all 108 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:31,279 those quotes, it's like, okay, in other words, they're just 109 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:34,480 doubling down on the things that are successful. You know, 110 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,399 Daredevil makes a lot of sense. I mean, Daredevil maybe 111 00:04:37,439 --> 00:04:40,560 just happened almost by accident because they took one season 112 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,680 and cut it into two, and that gives them a 113 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,560 really good runaway if they want to do this yearly 114 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,879 thing because they already are set up for next year 115 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:50,040 and so they can presumably film the next season next 116 00:04:50,079 --> 00:04:52,040 year and then like keep that trajectory going if they 117 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,240 want that case. 118 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: They start the filming next season tomorrow. Dylan, Okay, well 119 00:04:56,079 --> 00:04:57,519 there you go. So when people are listening to this, 120 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,480 yeah it's Friday, it's the twenty eighth that they are 121 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:01,519 filming double season two. So that's like a it's a 122 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,360 go go So. 123 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, full power. 124 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: So I mean that like that makes sense, and that 125 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:09,079 show has several seasons. Yes it's on Netflix, it's a 126 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,199 bit different time and all that, but it's like, okay, 127 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:13,439 we have several seasons here to look back like, it's 128 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:15,480 probably me successful. They feel like they've probably done a 129 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,720 good job of setting Updarreed Devil only the interest reintroducing 130 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,519 that through like several projects, and so you know, they're 131 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:22,279 putting a lot of eggs in the Dared Devil basket. 132 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,319 But I do think it will pay off for them here. 133 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:26,519 And then, like I don't know, the Spider Man is 134 00:05:26,519 --> 00:05:28,920 probably doing great because it's the Spider Man animated show, 135 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,720 so like, you know, we. 136 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,199 Speaker 3: Like it as a normal fan. But then also yeah. 137 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,319 Speaker 2: And then also kids are probably eating that up. And 138 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,720 you know, X Men maybe is one of those things 139 00:05:36,759 --> 00:05:38,519 too that they feel like is a good fit in 140 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,360 terms of that Saturday Morning cartoon bringing that vibe back, 141 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:43,800 and maybe they found some good numbers with that. That one's 142 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,680 also was kind of confirmed before the first season even 143 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,079 came out, right, so we'll see maybe maybe who knows 144 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:51,000 if it continues for five to six years in a 145 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:52,839 row or if it's just two or three. 146 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: Right, they got planned for nas, right, and I think 147 00:05:55,639 --> 00:05:58,759 after it's like let's see how it goes, you know, Yeah, 148 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:01,800 and next season is not that I like to bring 149 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,720 it up too much, but obviously there was the guy 150 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:05,399 like the boat of mail thing happened, right, and they 151 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:07,600 got rid of that guy in there placed him he 152 00:06:07,639 --> 00:06:10,000 did put out there. So again, whatever, take whatever you want, 153 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,439 but he put out there that a lot of his 154 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:14,319 stuff for season two has been taken out or change. 155 00:06:14,439 --> 00:06:17,079 So again not talking about whatever the guy did or whatnot, 156 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,399 but obviously very talented writer. I'm not saying that that 157 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,199 means season two is gonna suck, but like, it's my 158 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:27,360 worry is I'm I worry. It's it's like the JJ 159 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,279 Ryan Johnson thing where not so much even the content 160 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:32,560 being good or whatnot. It's it's like, clearly X Men 161 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:35,399 ninety seven season one sets up some stuff and then 162 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:36,639 what if this new writer is like, well, I don't 163 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:38,040 really want to do that stuff, so let's just kind 164 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,439 of go this direction, right, Like that's my worry with 165 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,079 that show where I felt like they brought up back 166 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,959 and it was singing, where now there's all this jumbling up. 167 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 It's getting messy. They want to take this guy's credit off, 168 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,600 which yeah, do whatever, it's your product, but you're changing 169 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,319 stuff and I didn't really love season three or what if? 170 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:54,199 And that's the head writer of the new X Men stuff. 171 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:57,439 And for me, I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty nervous for 172 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:00,120 ninety seven season two. I'm I'm really I'm like the 173 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:03,160 Jordan Peel Sweat right now. You know, I'm not saying 174 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,120 don't get boted to Mayo back. No, if you had 175 00:07:05,319 --> 00:07:07,079 obviously lots of issues with them, don't do that. But 176 00:07:07,639 --> 00:07:11,120 it's it's a weird tricky handoff between seasons where you 177 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,120 already had a show planned out, now it's kind of 178 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,040 being rewritten, you know. 179 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when I look at the other things 180 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,959 that we have on the slate right now for TV shows, 181 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,519 like an iron Heart, like a wonder Man, what else 182 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,399 is coming out that is announced? 183 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Like Zombies, we got that, and then you got Vision 184 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,279 that's coming out as well, supposedly next. 185 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,439 Speaker 2: So none of those to me seem like yearly things. 186 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,439 So I feel like those are kind of relics of 187 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,160 the old guard, the old way of introducing new characters, 188 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,439 or in the case of iron Heart, kind of we 189 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:43,319 already got the introduction, but like this is your this 190 00:07:43,399 --> 00:07:46,839 is actually her first story on her own. But yeah, 191 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:49,879 I feel like Daredevil and these animated shows seems like 192 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,759 pretty safe places to start building up this and see 193 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,720 how that goes, and get that workflow going and then 194 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:57,680 like kind of build up again in a way. So 195 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,879 I think that I think that makes sense for them and. 196 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:03,759 Speaker 3: I don't know. 197 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,519 Speaker 2: I guess I like the idea of getting new characters, 198 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,680 but like I kind of would just prefer those characters 199 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,279 getting movies than these shows, I think in some cases. 200 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:12,519 And I don't know, I haven't loved the shows as 201 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,839 much in general, but some of them are quite good, 202 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:16,480 So I don't know. I think I maybe for the 203 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:19,759 shows for characters that we've already been introduced to, like 204 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Loki and Hawkeye and Wanda Vision kind of coming out 205 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,680 as a falcon when you're soldier, like all ones that 206 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:28,079 already had established characters. So maybe maybe they're even seeing 207 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,600 in the results like it's just better to do it 208 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,879 the opposite way, introduce people on the big screen and 209 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:32,960 then bring them TV later. 210 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: Oh I yeah, I think That's always been my pitch, 211 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:38,120 Like the first three shows, Like I don't get me wrong, 212 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:40,159 I would say when they announced Moon Night and She 213 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Hulk and I still I loved last She Hulk Moon Night, 214 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:46,120 to me, it was fine, but like to me, when 215 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,480 you looked at the numbers, it was like, Okay, I 216 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,720 think you saw that the people for the most part 217 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,840 glomb onto the characters that were returning, right, and that's 218 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,679 where to me, It's tough because I was bringing up 219 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,240 this graph. I just want to see like the show. 220 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,240 So it's like obviously Wanda Vision, because I just want 221 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,000 to say how much of the stuff When you're like 222 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,960 with Ironheart, I say, okay, how many shows were just 223 00:09:04,039 --> 00:09:06,080 there to like, were any on their own? And there's 224 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,639 only really one I could think of, But even then 225 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:10,399 I think I'm wrong, Like Okay, Wanta Vision, Oh damn, 226 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,639 I lost it all. Wanta Vision. That really set up 227 00:09:14,159 --> 00:09:17,360 or oh my god, Secret Invasion yuck, I forgot about this, 228 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:20,039 Like kay Wanavision that sets up Strange too right, fuck 229 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,639 you Soldier that sets up cap for Loki. That to 230 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,039 me felt like a perfect like we've killed them off 231 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,399 the movies, we can't do anything else with them. That 232 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,000 to me is like a perfect Let's do a show, 233 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:30,440 you know. 234 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:32,639 Speaker 2: And it's one of the few that did get a 235 00:09:32,639 --> 00:09:35,519 second season at this point, or yeah, the only really, it's. 236 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: The only one. So like live action Hawkeye obviously that 237 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,919 that was the one where I'm like, oh, what do 238 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,399 you do? But you set up two things. If you 239 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:44,360 set up Kingpin and Kate Bishop to go on Young Avengers, 240 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,240 I'll skip mod Night for a second. Miss Marvel. They 241 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,320 set up for the Marvels, right, yep, this is my 242 00:09:49,399 --> 00:09:52,080 two here Moonnight. I imagine it stept because like, oh, we're 243 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,320 gonna do a midnight Sunds movie play and all that. 244 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,519 That was the setup. She Olk's the one that I'm. 245 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, what was the plan? 246 00:09:59,399 --> 00:09:59,759 Speaker 1: We said? 247 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,759 Speaker 2: You know, we talked so much about, like was what 248 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,960 was she gonna be in Captain America? That obviously didn't happen, 249 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,240 So like, yeah, yeah, what was the game plan? 250 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: Because all these were, like I said, all these shows 251 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,279 of this, like for this phase four, I guess it 252 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:13,200 was phase four of the Disney plus all of them. 253 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,080 You could see, Okay, they made the show to get 254 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:17,960 us to this point. She hulks. The one that doesn't 255 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,240 make sense. Maybe they just thought, because hey, we can't 256 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:22,279 make a Hawk movie, let's do that. And then when 257 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:24,159 you get to phase five, this is when they really 258 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:27,200 go on the air pumping out content and like Agatha 259 00:10:27,399 --> 00:10:30,240 that's a spin off, a Echo that's a spinoff Loki 260 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,159 at season two Secret Invasion. I guess it was like 261 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:36,879 another Marvel's lead into but really, like I'd say, born Again, 262 00:10:36,879 --> 00:10:39,480 you could count Echo, but really born Again feels like again, 263 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,320 it's funny, we're back to the Netflix stuff that feels 264 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,000 like the first show show like the first like, hey, 265 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,759 we're gonna do this and do season two and it's 266 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:47,600 gonna be a show because, like you said, Ironheart, that 267 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,039 feels like it's her story, but that's probably still just 268 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,159 setting up like Her and Young Avengers. Again, we have 269 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,039 isercon that Marvel wonder Man. I'm sorry, I love Yah. Yeah, 270 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,600 but that thing's doa I think that's gonna come out. 271 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:03,200 Like to me, it's like Echo, It's gonna come out, 272 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,159 and we're probably never gonna see Echo for a long time. 273 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,600 You think you think one of men's gonna come out, 274 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,639 We're gonna see him in like a Marvel project in 275 00:11:08,639 --> 00:11:10,279 the next years after. I don't. 276 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean hard behind to that, considering the fate 277 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:15,720 of Moonnight in She Hulk at this point. 278 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you got Vision Quest, which, like the 279 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,600 good thing is they're supposedly adapting this story. I think 280 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,720 it's just called Vision, but they're adapting the story where 281 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,440 he goes to like a little suburban town and makes 282 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,200 his own family. I think I've talked to you about 283 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,799 this before. We has like a robot wife and a 284 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:33,039 robot son and anything. Yeah, that to me feels like 285 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:35,519 the low key thing where that's perfect of like can't 286 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:38,320 do a movie. Vision's not dead, but he's in this 287 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:41,120 weird limbo of like he kind of has his memory 288 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,120 kind of doesn't. Like that's to me a perfect like 289 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:45,919 mini series event or even Punisher, like we talked about 290 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:48,240 the special that's perfect, So I feel like they have 291 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,200 to be really picky. I was gonna ask you, is 292 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,480 there any characters whether we've seen them, whether it's in 293 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,399 the MC or Netflix, or any characters we have seen, 294 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,840 is anyone jumps to mind of like, hey, they should 295 00:11:57,879 --> 00:12:01,200 do a like Daredevil now like multi season if that's 296 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,759 what they're gonna do, because right now, like you said, 297 00:12:02,799 --> 00:12:04,919 we don't really have much announced though other than Daredevil, 298 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:07,440 Like this is even Punisher is a special. It's not 299 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,000 like they announce, Hey, Punisher's back and he's doing multiple seasons, 300 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,879 Like is that how you do a Jessica Jones? Do 301 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:15,840 you do a Heroes for higher? Is there anyone else 302 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:17,720 in the mcum trying to think that you could do 303 00:12:17,879 --> 00:12:21,360 Like I guess maybe Young Avengers could be that, But 304 00:12:21,399 --> 00:12:24,519 I feel like that's a that's an expensive, like multi 305 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,279 season show. I think that's almost like a vision where 306 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:28,240 you get like a one shot. 307 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,519 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if we look at that, like, yes, uh, 308 00:12:31,799 --> 00:12:34,440 miss Marvel has been on the big screen now, but 309 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,440 if we do look at young Avengers, we got uh 310 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:40,279 what's his name from Agatha, we got Kate Bishop, we 311 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,080 got Miss Marvel. 312 00:12:41,159 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: So it seems like, okay, if we're doing. 313 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:47,039 Speaker 2: That, their legacy so far has largely been on the 314 00:12:47,159 --> 00:12:49,480 small screen, on the home screen, So maybe that makes 315 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:51,120 sense as like kind of going that route. 316 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:52,039 Speaker 3: Can you do that for. 317 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,399 Speaker 1: Multiple seasons though, like all that big of a cast. 318 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: I guess if you start small, maybe maybe if you 319 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:01,159 start small and you plan as like a maybe even 320 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,279 Juice Planet as like a three season thing doesn't have 321 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:06,120 to be indefinite, but just you know, two or three 322 00:13:06,159 --> 00:13:09,480 seasons and you slowly build that roster up, I guess maybe. 323 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,279 Speaker 3: And like I guess, I. 324 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: Just feel like with the caliber of all those actors, 325 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,159 like I don't think any of them are demanding a 326 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,679 huge pay check, like even Steinfeld, like I don't know 327 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,000 if she's she's not Robert Downey numbers, you know, like 328 00:13:21,039 --> 00:13:23,720 you're gonna order kind of thing and she might be 329 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:26,759 the most expensive one on on that team. Potentially not 330 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:28,559 if you're throwing Tom Holland in there. That's a whole 331 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,600 different realm. But I don't think that's the route we're going. 332 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:32,919 Speaker 3: With with Spidey, So that might be a good one. 333 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,399 Speaker 2: My other one is still I you know, definitely some biasaries. 334 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,279 I love the show, but I do think she Hulk, 335 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:41,399 among all those shows we talked about, does seem like 336 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,200 one of the best ones for like an annual kind 337 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,799 of thing, right, just because it's maybe a bit lower stakes, 338 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,600 because it's different tonally than some of the other stuff. 339 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,320 Maybe the cgi angle of it makes it tricky terms 340 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,720 of the production of it. 341 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: I think it was expensive the show. 342 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and so that's you know, that's maybe the downside. 343 00:13:58,919 --> 00:14:00,320 But even like if I compare that to they're like 344 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,159 something like Moon Night. I'm kind of good with the 345 00:14:02,159 --> 00:14:04,559 one season we got bring him into other stuff, and 346 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,279 we still haven't seen that, of course, so we'll see 347 00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:08,559 if that does ever happen or we just forget about 348 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,759 Moon Night. But yeah, I think of all those shows, 349 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:14,080 she Alk's the one that makes the most sense. We 350 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,039 were talking about Loki and that was a successful two 351 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:18,600 season to run, but we've kind of set up like 352 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:19,960 the end of that to some extent. 353 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: Now. 354 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,679 Speaker 2: You can always keep going with it, of course, and 355 00:14:21,679 --> 00:14:23,840 I'm sure we'll see Loki again someday, but I feel 356 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,039 like they kind of closed that door to some extent. 357 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,519 Speaker 3: I think that would be my answer. 358 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:31,399 Speaker 2: Right now, would be some more Young avengersy things, even 359 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:33,279 though I've talked about how I'd rather get movies for that, 360 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:35,759 but I think the more we've talked about it, maybe 361 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:37,159 that could could make sense there. 362 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,399 Speaker 3: And yeah, she Hulk, I guess would be the ones 363 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:40,080 off the top of my head. 364 00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:41,759 Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, because I don't know, you 365 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:42,720 weren't on this cost. 366 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:44,279 Speaker 2: Maybe an X Men character. I don't know which one, 367 00:14:44,279 --> 00:14:46,399 but like that could be another thing too. You probably 368 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,240 want one X Men property as like a frequent thing, 369 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:51,720 and you can get other characters popping in and out right. 370 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Last week one weekly me and Tara talked about that 371 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:58,080 was the two things where they canceled no or they 372 00:14:58,159 --> 00:15:00,159 put on hold. I don't means they canceled. They on 373 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,159 whole Strange Academy Nova and Terror Ink, which we had 374 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:04,919 never heard of, but they I guess we're working on that, 375 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,120 and I guess though, and the rumors though, is that 376 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,080 they're working on like an X Men Academy show that 377 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,279 to me is like a perfect like I've always pitched 378 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,240 it like into carry Pot or multiple seasons where like, 379 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:16,519 to me, that's where it's like Nova, that's a space show. 380 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:18,519 That makes sense why they cancel it, Like I don't 381 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:20,519 Peeple might be like, oh, well, X Men could be expensive. 382 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:23,120 Well if you don't give them many fight scenes. It's 383 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,799 just said in a big mansion like it's. 384 00:15:25,919 --> 00:15:26,559 Speaker 3: We need a lot. 385 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: We need to explain what the heck is going on 386 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:30,440 with the X Men and why they even exist. So 387 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,000 I feel like there's a lot of room for a 388 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,759 show to explore that kind of stuff, even though, like 389 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:36,159 if it's a six episode run, you're not gonna get 390 00:15:36,159 --> 00:15:36,840 a lot of time. 391 00:15:36,639 --> 00:15:38,039 Speaker 3: Out of that. It's pretty short and sweet. 392 00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:40,399 Speaker 2: So I think they could definitely keep that under wraps, 393 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,360 and that would probably have some good synergy with X 394 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:45,720 Men ninety seven. It's different X Men strokes for different folks, right, 395 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,320 but it would be kind of synergistic at the same time. 396 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: And I was trying just to like Google's awful, like 397 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:55,000 I was trying to find like just any maybe no 398 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,639 one's done it. Maybe we should have maybe a good 399 00:15:56,679 --> 00:15:58,919 see seo farm, but we try to find like any 400 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,879 like Article or Red or something like. People have a 401 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:03,559 list of like characters that should get a TV show 402 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,240 because I was trying to get some ideas of like 403 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,679 characters like Daredevil where it's who could get a show? Well, 404 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:14,039 you use multiple seasons, right. 405 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,799 Speaker 2: You asked me about Jessica Jones and like Defender's era stuff, 406 00:16:16,799 --> 00:16:19,360 Like do you think that Daredevil being the first one 407 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:22,080 of the live action to potentially get this treatment would 408 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,320 be like an indicator that is something they would go 409 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,559 down and bring either bringing back those characters or just 410 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:29,519 setting up other you know, New York Street level people. 411 00:16:30,279 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's like we got that season two 412 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:35,080 and then the Punisher special confirmed, Like I think they 413 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,679 know the good thing with them is they know that 414 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,000 these guys at least have a fan base built in 415 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,960 and they're cheaper shows. Not that the talent's cheaper, but like, 416 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,679 you just gotta get Punisher a bunch of fake guns, right, 417 00:16:46,759 --> 00:16:48,960 you just gotta get Charlie Cox in a good looking suit. 418 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,720 Like there's not gonna be massive effects so I feel 419 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,480 like and I don't think it's a mistake. I know 420 00:16:53,559 --> 00:16:56,279 Christen Ritter is in New York filming Dexter right now, 421 00:16:56,519 --> 00:16:58,879 but they're also filming Daredevil. You can't tell me she 422 00:16:58,919 --> 00:17:01,159 can't take a hop, skip and a jump to like do. 423 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,480 That's like perfect timing for her. Did you hear the 424 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:06,920 name of her killer name in Dexter? No, it's a 425 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,079 what is it? Lady Vengeance? So like Lady Liberty. 426 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: She's fucking love that. 427 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,079 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Don't know more, she's just a serial killer. 428 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:17,599 What I'd say the best thing I'd think to do. 429 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,599 Speaker 2: I eve'n had Ridder on my screen in a long time. 430 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,519 I need her back in my life, so I'm excited 431 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:22,039 for that. 432 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: She did it because she has kids, so I get it. 433 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,559 But she had popped up recently. We watched Sonic three 434 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,119 and that was wild. Emmy and I are like, why 435 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,880 is she in Sonic And it's very like not a 436 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,640 big role. She's like like a CIA agent or something, 437 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,079 but yeah, she's in Sonic three. 438 00:17:35,519 --> 00:17:36,079 Speaker 3: Is it fun? 439 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:36,519 Speaker 1: Like? 440 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: Is it is it a fun character? 441 00:17:38,599 --> 00:17:42,599 Speaker 1: No? Okay, she's not bad, but she's like you don't 442 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:45,160 care much to do, but that's too bad. So if 443 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:46,960 the only thing I'd say out of that realm you 444 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,799 could pitch because also I think we talked about this 445 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:51,000 on the news. Bernhal I think is too busy for 446 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,400 a show, So that's why they're doing a special. Anythink 447 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,400 to me a Heroes for Hire show, but like add 448 00:17:56,519 --> 00:17:58,960 Jessica in there, like that to me is strong if 449 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:01,359 they because I don't know if for the big poll 450 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,079 for people, if it's I think with the canon we're 451 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:06,720 getting now, I do think we'll get the same actors 452 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:08,960 back for Luke Cage and Iron Fists. I think they 453 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,440 just want to keep that kind of. 454 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,599 Speaker 3: Cold Iron Fist too. 455 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: I think so because I don't think he'll ever be 456 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,799 in his own But that's my thing of like, I 457 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:18,000 don't think even if Theynnun say we're doing Heroes for Hire, 458 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,519 I don't think those two alone have enough poll. I 459 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:23,079 think you do Heroes for Hire and Jessica's with them, 460 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,720 and it's like a three way type of show, like 461 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:28,640 one's a muscle, one's a billionaire, and one's the detective. 462 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:31,720 There's like a fun thing you do there. So that's 463 00:18:31,759 --> 00:18:34,920 what I could think. They're in the storyline or in 464 00:18:35,319 --> 00:18:38,000 the comic storylines like Jessica and Luke Cage have a kid. 465 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:40,640 There's tons of fun you could do with that sort 466 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,079 of stuff. 467 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, that could be the next Young Avenger is 468 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,440 the offspring of those two, and maybe over the course 469 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,400 of the Snap, maybe they've already shocked up and we're 470 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,720 ready to go. Kids are ten years old, like young 471 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:51,920 t chaka Claire. 472 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: Some of these people they picked like a because I 473 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,240 found a Reddit thing finally of like what Marvel character 474 00:18:57,279 --> 00:18:59,759 needs their own TV show? So won't put Modoc who 475 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,519 was a year ago. So granted lots of change, but. 476 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: Who the scene where the fate of Modoc is in 477 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,319 the current timeline people, But. 478 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: The most we got with the Modoc was fine with 479 00:19:09,759 --> 00:19:11,640 the Did you watch the animated series with that? 480 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: I never got around to it. 481 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: It's fun, It's like a. 482 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: Robot Chicken kind of thing. 483 00:19:16,079 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was me and Emily enjoyed. It was like, 484 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,240 got a couple of lasts, but like some must be right, 485 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:26,119 I might be Yeah, Hercules, no, that's not going to 486 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,160 happen Black Oh. 487 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot Hercules got introduced and that's a big 488 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,720 actor now, so maybe going back he never come you 489 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,240 don't think any like as guard I guess Asgard is 490 00:19:35,319 --> 00:19:36,880 kind of just a hole in the ground. But like 491 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,519 you don't think we'd never get like a like a 492 00:19:39,519 --> 00:19:42,240 as Guardian type character as a centerpiece. 493 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,519 Speaker 3: We've had a lot more. 494 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: I think it'd be like Kid low Key on a team. 495 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:48,200 I think it's just like what we just talked about. 496 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,160 I think Young Avengers would be the cap of how 497 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,119 expensive they're willing to go. I think they want to 498 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,920 keep them pretty. They like pretty safe and stuff. Like 499 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,119 I'm just like the shows people. I guess maybe they're 500 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,920 think a year ago, right, like Silver Surfer. I guess 501 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,240 like there's a where I could see them pitch that, 502 00:20:01,279 --> 00:20:03,400 but there's no way I think this Disney Plus is 503 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,720 doing a multi season Silver Surfer show, Like, do you 504 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,000 think that there's the two? 505 00:20:08,079 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean we are getting Surfer in the movie, right, So, 506 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:12,680 but do. 507 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: You think they do a show multi seasons that they're perfect? 508 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: Me to say, because I don't actually know much about 509 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:21,200 Silver Surfer. That's not a other than like the original 510 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:22,759 F four, I don't think I've ever actually seen the 511 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:24,640 character or anything. Like he's just one of those Marvel 512 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,119 characters that somehow has slept past me. So I don't know, 513 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,000 I don't I don't know the well, I guess in 514 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,400 this case with the woman's silver surfer, I don't even 515 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,279 I don't really know much about the background, Like I 516 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:35,680 don't know if there's the sauce there. 517 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I'm just like I'm just even looking 518 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:41,759 through people's suggestions of like if it's no longer like 519 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:44,880 the original Disney Plus, where hey, anything like she hull 520 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,279 ca cgi character is on the table, it's not like that. 521 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,400 If it's like we gotta we're trying to make these 522 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,359 things a bit more cheap or go for multi years 523 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:55,039 taking out the Netflix people. I really don't know and 524 00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:56,680 the Young Avenger. I really don't know what's going to 525 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,319 be next for Disney Plus. And maybe like even this 526 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,559 year we actually no, that's a live we got Ironhearter 527 00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:03,480 and wonder Man, but even next year it's just supposedly 528 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:05,880 Vision Quest and Daredevils, Like maybe they're just gonna keep 529 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,200 it zombies so in zombies. Yeah, so we'll see, but 530 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,279 there's just not much live action. Like I'm just looking 531 00:21:12,279 --> 00:21:14,319 at people suggestions. It's just I don't think it's stuff 532 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:16,960 that will it's it's too big. I mean, for what 533 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:17,839 it sounds. 534 00:21:17,599 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: On top of that list, Chuck Punisher in there, because 535 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,319 that's another thing hitting Disney Plus. It's not a show, 536 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,480 but it's still yeah, yeah, in Disney Plus content content. 537 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: Even Ghost Rider. Now it's like I feel like, I 538 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,000 don't know if it's gonna happen now, because then I 539 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,079 feel like, if it happens, you're just getting like Johnny 540 00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:33,519 Blaze a lot, like he won't be the Rider a lot, 541 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,559 you know, but right, yeah, I know, well to see 542 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,720 it'll be interesting in the next couple of years because 543 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,279 maybe they're honestly not gonna even do too many new 544 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:44,839 shows until after Secret Wars as well, right, like get 545 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,799 through that, but it's gonna be interesting whether five's around 546 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,799 or not when we get that, if they do it, 547 00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:52,880 when we get that, like Slate Dump after Secret Wars. 548 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,200 I think the thing that at least is safe for 549 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,759 them is you know, the sentence slate But yeah, that's 550 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,200 I should say, slate them, But you know, it's gonna 551 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,160 be like four to five X Men projects that are 552 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,160 gonna save them, Right you got like X ME in 553 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,519 the movie X Academy Wolverine, like right there and then 554 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:13,039 Fantastic four two, Like that's right there. 555 00:22:13,079 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: You already got Frey or Kitty Pride and Spider Man for. 556 00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:20,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly got that going on. Kitty Pride 557 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,559 also does marry star Lord, so if she doesn't get 558 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:23,279 it with Peter. 559 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: And he's on Earth and he's depressed and alone, so 560 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:29,480 that's the time. I don't know if I want Chris 561 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,839 Pratt and Daisy Ridley. 562 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: Maybe I do. I don't know if I want that. 563 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,119 I gotta think about that, but no, I think yeah. 564 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: Maybe My final takeaway here is just like for me 565 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,079 as me personally, as an individual person, not looking at 566 00:22:42,079 --> 00:22:44,119 the greater fan base and what more people want is, 567 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:46,599 you know, it's proof and just looking at the reviews, 568 00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:48,720 like I've kind of been dipping on shows, and I 569 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:51,200 love the MCU, but even I've kind of waned a 570 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,000 bit in my interest there with Agda now Spider Man. 571 00:22:54,079 --> 00:22:56,559 So I think I'm good with a little bit of 572 00:22:56,599 --> 00:22:58,920 a reset, a little bit of a soft reset of 573 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,720 just the plan there and make it a little more 574 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,359 exciting for me personally. I mean, I loved X Men 575 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,839 last year, so it's not like it's been that long 576 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,680 since I have found a show that I have loved 577 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,160 and that's coming back right away, and I'm excited for Daredevil, 578 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,880 so it's not like I'm dead on excitement level, but 579 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,279 still like I go say everything in the theaters, but 580 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,160 when it comes to the TV shows, I'm more selective, 581 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,440 and so I'd like to get to the point where 582 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,640 I'm like, I can't miss whatever the new show is 583 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,160 at this point. 584 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,799 Speaker 1: At some point you should catch up on Spidy, Spy, Spicy. 585 00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: I will, yes, next time I have Disney. 586 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: Plus I'm gonna I think finish Agatha end that, but 587 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,680 which I guess is probably this week because of Daredevil, 588 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,759 so maybe i'll watch them soon. 589 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so Elena I think because it's in Thunderbolts now, 590 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,400 but there's interesting. It is too big now but like 591 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,799 if she wasn't pew yeah, but yeah we'll have to 592 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:49,119 see Elektra. Yeah. I just want her back. Let's get 593 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,240 her back live first before Gardner or uh definitely ld 594 00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:57,799 you know. So yeah, see, there's like the only person 595 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,160 they had the budget for it. The only person is 596 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,319 like Valkyrie, Like you talking about ASCAR characters, like maybe 597 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:06,039 that's one, but again, I don't think we're going to ASCAR. 598 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,880 But that's when it's like, Okay, that's that's like a 599 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,720 good line in the movies. 600 00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:11,599 Speaker 2: But I feel like they've already kind of botched like 601 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,119 interesting stuff they could have done with Valkyrie. 602 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,519 Speaker 1: I think so, but you never know. And Hercules, I 603 00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:20,000 don't think so, because it's just I don't think you're 604 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,799 ever seeing Hercules ever again. I don't think you're seeing 605 00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:23,000 Harry Styles ever again. 606 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: What are their really I don't think Hercules Styles seems 607 00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:30,799 more likely as a dead character, but Hercules, like I think, 608 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,880 because we're getting thor what the heck are we on now? 609 00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:34,559 Speaker 1: Four or five? 610 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: We're getting that right? 611 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they havent announced it. I think we will, 612 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,240 but I just think they're gonna go. I guess he'll 613 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,720 be in there, but he'll be like the Worst Three 614 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:43,480 where I'll have like a small role. I think they're 615 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,000 gonna go the. 616 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,079 Speaker 3: Complete We'll see again then maybe I. 617 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,759 Speaker 1: Wouldn't put money on it, though, like I wouldn't, I 618 00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:50,160 I wouldn't. 619 00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: I just feel like that guy's kind of gaining traction 620 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,519 as an actor as a oh a big star yet. 621 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:58,839 But yeah, I think they want to use them, you know. 622 00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: I just think they'll have go a complete different direction. 623 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,400 Away from the taiker stuff, so they let's not use 624 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:06,720 that might remind people, you know, Yeah, I guess he 625 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:07,000 was just. 626 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,839 Speaker 2: So using there such a small amount that I don't 627 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:10,400 know if they've like set the tone for me yet, 628 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,240 Like they could go dark and brooding, which is what 629 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,000 that actor does a lot of so. 630 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,559 Speaker 1: Serious, does I know, there's like I'll have to pull 631 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,240 it up. I want to pull up when we in 632 00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,359 a different maybe bread and butter topic of like all 633 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,839 the end credits that have still not been paid off 634 00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:27,119 and we're just we're just bershally, yeah, has not been 635 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,119 paid off. So but yeah, there we go. So let's 636 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,039 take your last ad break and we'll talk about some Shrek, 637 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,880 talk about some trailers, and beat it right back and 638 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:36,839 we are back