Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm deell you easy
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Speaker 2: All right, it is thank for miss Dan Watkins. It's
Speaker 2: I got eleven o eight. I hope I'm pretty close
Speaker 2: on that one. We're talking about Donald Trump's airplane. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: he he says that he might accept an airplane. Nothing's
Speaker 2: finally yet, But I just think it's a fascinating issue
Speaker 2: and a fascinating topic. It's also an issue in which
Speaker 2: there seems to be a split amongst his supporters. So
Speaker 2: which makes me think that a couple of our callers
Speaker 2: in the first hour of the ten o'clock hour, who
Speaker 2: suggested that this deal might not come to fruition, might
Speaker 2: be right. In the meantime, let's get back to the calls.
Speaker 2: We got one line available at six, one, seven, nine thirty.
Speaker 2: Gotta go to Jerry in Michigan. Hey, Jerry in Michigan,
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Nightside. How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm all right, Dan, I got a little bit of
Speaker 3: a different spin on that.
Speaker 2: Excellent.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's an air bus or uh
Speaker 3: Boeing plane. I think was Obama or Biden had already
Speaker 3: ordered like replacements for Air Force one and I think
Speaker 3: Trump canceled that order in his first term. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I think that I think
Speaker 2: that the replacements.
Speaker 4: Had been ordered the the the Air Force, the Air
Speaker 4: Force ones that currently are in use, and apparently both
Speaker 4: of them have periodic need to get in the shop
Speaker 4: and get taken care of date back to President Reagan,
Speaker 4: so they're inaccessive.
Speaker 3: I was pretty sure they one of the presidents had
Speaker 3: some on order and somebody canceled them because I.
Speaker 2: Think that, and I'm going to stay to be corrected,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to look it up if if, and
Speaker 2: correct myself if necessary. But mine standing is that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump had issued some orders for these planes, and then
Speaker 2: along came COVID, and I think that the planes. In
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, let me see if I can
Speaker 2: find this information and we can share it right here.
Speaker 2: I think that the planes, the replacement Air Force ones,
Speaker 2: the new Air Force ones are still on are not
Speaker 2: expected to be delivered until twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, anyways, Really, what I wanted to bring up
Speaker 3: was is that they just can't buy one plane there.
Speaker 3: I believe they've got to have three, so they don't
Speaker 3: deal with one. They've got three out there on the tarmac,
Speaker 3: and when whoever's coming out to go, it's what's behind
Speaker 3: door number one or number two or number three? They don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me if I can, Jerry, I've just found
Speaker 2: that this is in the Washington Post, and I think
Speaker 2: I think I'm correct, but I'd like to read it
Speaker 2: to you. During Trump's first term, which would have been
Speaker 2: between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty one, Boeing agreed to
Speaker 2: a fixed price three point nine billion dollar contract to
Speaker 2: deliver two modified Boeing seven forty seven airliners that would
Speaker 2: take on the Air Force one Moniker when the president
Speaker 2: is on board. But delivery for the first of the
Speaker 2: two jets is not expected until at least twenty and
Speaker 2: twenty seven, and Boeing has incurred billions of dollars in
Speaker 2: cost overruns that it has had to absorb that. I
Speaker 2: don't understand why why we would have to pay three
Speaker 2: point nine billion dollars for two planes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very special planes. Years and years ago, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm going to be seventy five on my next birthday, Okay,
Speaker 3: But back when I was in college, I used to
Speaker 3: work with the father of one of the mechanics that
Speaker 3: was on the on the team, the mechanic team for
Speaker 3: the Air Force one down there, and he knew that
Speaker 3: there was three of them, and they never knew which
Speaker 3: one one they were going to take for security reasons,
Speaker 3: you know, just in case somebody tried to pull a
Speaker 3: fast one.
Speaker 2: But as a matter of fact, let me just reading
Speaker 2: from this article in the Washington Post. It says the
Speaker 2: contract for the new Air Force one jets signed with
Speaker 2: Boeing during the first Trump administration included a number of
Speaker 2: requirements that were quote gold plated, the former senior defense
Speaker 2: official said, noting significant requirements for electrical power, refrigeration units,
Speaker 2: and in flight medical capabilities. The program also calls for
Speaker 2: a four engine designed to increase redundancy if there are
Speaker 2: mechanical failures. I guess that's why we cost about two
Speaker 2: billion dollars apiece.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember hearing that that they were going to
Speaker 3: have extra extra engines on them rather than the two,
Speaker 3: like the seven thirty sevens and fifty sevens and seven
Speaker 3: eighty whatever they are. I've lost tract of all their numbers,
Speaker 3: but they usually hanging one engine on each wing. But
Speaker 3: I'd heard that they were going to go to a
Speaker 3: four engines. By the way, I know this is way off,
Speaker 3: But I wrote a book a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: and one of my chapters in my book was my
Speaker 3: experience in flying I left Milwaukee. I used to fly
Speaker 3: to Milwaukee to Detroit in my own plane, and on
Speaker 3: one trip back home, I lost my engine eleven thousand
Speaker 3: feet right over the middle of Lake Michigan. And I'm
Speaker 3: still here.
Speaker 2: So you lost Is it a single engine plane?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I got eleven thousand feet. What did you do? Just
Speaker 2: try to get it over? What you do?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh yeah, I glided in. I found I slowed up.
Speaker 3: I usually cruise about one hundred and seventy. If i'd
Speaker 3: slow up to about one hundred and thirty, that gave
Speaker 3: me my least amount of fall out of the air.
Speaker 3: That's a there's a chart in the in the manual,
Speaker 3: and I used to keep those charts on the ceiling
Speaker 3: of my plane and just in case I needed them.
Speaker 3: And I had it there. But I had thirty three
Speaker 3: minutes with God and and we made it into Mischigan.
Speaker 3: So but wow, yeah, that's on the west side of
Speaker 3: Michigan there, east side of the lake. But I worked
Speaker 3: Chicago and Cleveland and Lansing and two centers and then
Speaker 3: then two other airports. They all wanted me to declare
Speaker 3: an emergency, and I said no because it doesn't change
Speaker 3: a thing.
Speaker 2: Good for you, Jerry. I'm glad you made it because
Speaker 2: if you had, you wouldn't have called tonight.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much, Jerry. Appreciate your time. Appreciate
Speaker 2: you you you being such a loyal listener out there
Speaker 2: and call more often. Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Well, I had I just I had a personal tragedy
Speaker 3: here the first of January. I haven't been able to call.
Speaker 3: I would have been on some some more of your calls,
Speaker 3: but I've had a very very rough early start of
Speaker 3: the year here, and I'm just getting myself straightened out.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, long be able to be more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that you know. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: ask you what your wife?
Speaker 3: My wife? Yeah?
Speaker 2: How long were you married? A long time?
Speaker 3: Forty six forty six years?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a hell of a run.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, yep. And I'm still having in trouble, but
Speaker 3: I'm getting out over it. So thank you for being
Speaker 3: there yourself as well.
Speaker 2: Well, we're there with here every Monday through Friday night
Speaker 2: from me till midnight.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've been listening to you for years.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jerry, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for
Speaker 2: a good.
Speaker 3: One ever, good evening. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Take a quick break. One line six one seven thirty
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Speaker 2: Back we go, we got full lines. Let's keep rolling here.
Speaker 2: This has been a great topic. Let me go to Rick. Bill, Rick, Rick,
Speaker 2: you were next on nice side.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Thank you. I would like Jerry to be
Speaker 6: my pilot. And when the next time I take a plane.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you talk about a guy who had ice
Speaker 2: water in his veins. I would have been screaming and yelling,
Speaker 2: where's the parachutes?
Speaker 6: That's even higher than Sully was in the jumbo jet.
Speaker 6: But but that that's amazing. What an amazing guy. Holy crap,
Speaker 6: he's calm, he's calm and cool. So uh yeah. A
Speaker 6: few calls ago, I think it was Bill was talking
Speaker 6: about Afghanistan, totally true. What happened. The Biden administration dropped
Speaker 6: the ball terribly. Yeah, but I don't think that has
Speaker 6: anything to do with katak H as far as I know.
Speaker 6: And I'm just thinking it's one thing. If there was
Speaker 6: a famous Katari painter, one of the paint Trump's you know, portrait,
Speaker 6: and it could cost most people, most rich people would
Speaker 6: have to pay one hundred thousand dollars, and he's gonna
Speaker 6: do it for free, and it's like, all right, whatever, okay,
Speaker 6: but this is a this is a four hundred thousand
Speaker 6: dollars vehicle.
Speaker 7: Four hundred billion brought a million.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm meant to say. That's what I'm meant
Speaker 6: to say. Yeah, that's this is I mean, if Trump's
Speaker 6: just messing with people and it's really just trying to
Speaker 6: get people going, fine, maybe Mike is right, maybe there's
Speaker 6: a plane that's already coming. But uh but yeah, he
Speaker 6: shouldn't accept it. It doesn't do him any favors for
Speaker 6: his credibility. It's just it's two I mean, where's the favors,
Speaker 6: where's the who knows if it's if it's not bugged
Speaker 6: like you were saying, I don't know, but it's it
Speaker 6: just doesn't sit well with me, and I'm glad that
Speaker 6: did Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 8: Did you said Lindsey Graham, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, several several Republicans which would be in this situation. Graham,
Speaker 2: who is as biggest supporter of Donald Trump as anyone,
Speaker 2: he made some comments as did what Graham said. Air
Speaker 2: Force one is a symbol of America when it landsa flies,
Speaker 2: it is American America flying and landing. And I want
Speaker 2: to make sure that this whole thing is kosher. Time
Speaker 2: will tell. Now he's sort of on the fence, but
Speaker 2: you would think that Lindsey Graham would have said, oh,
Speaker 2: we're with the president totally on this one, and he's
Speaker 2: not ted. Cruz was also raised concerns. Senator Ran paula
Speaker 2: Kentucky said no. He said, uh. He said, whether it's
Speaker 2: improper or not, I don't think it's worth it. That
Speaker 2: was Rayan Paul's comment. Lisa Murkowski is also pretty sceptical,
Speaker 2: pretty skeptical. So yeah, and here's one that's interesting. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know who Laura Loomer is. She's
Speaker 2: a Republican congresswoman from Colorado. She's pretty far right wing
Speaker 2: activist kind of. She's a She's a big Trump supporter.
Speaker 2: She says, I love President Trump and take a bullet
Speaker 2: from but I have to call a spade a spade.
Speaker 2: We cannot accept a four hundred million dollar gift from
Speaker 2: Gee Hottis and suits Loomer ROTOECKX. I'm so disappointed.
Speaker 1: Are they g Are Qatarians? I think? I know?
Speaker 2: No, Do I think that that No? Do I think
Speaker 2: that that there are people in any of those governments
Speaker 2: who have sympathies, certainly, but I would hope that we
Speaker 2: could uh talk some sense into those countries, you know,
Speaker 2: the UAE and UH and Qatar and Cutter uh and
Speaker 2: say look, you know, uh, you know you got to
Speaker 2: get rid of these people in your governments. Many of
Speaker 2: the Well, I think that Katar and the UAE are
Speaker 2: now signatories to the Abraham Accords, which indicate that they
Speaker 2: will h interact and deal with the State of Israel,
Speaker 2: which is a big step for some of those Arab
Speaker 2: countries to make. So yeah, but look, all of them
Speaker 2: have potential. Look, we found out with Saudi Arabia fifteen
Speaker 2: of the nineteen hijackers, the nine eleven people with Saudi
Speaker 2: and yeah, so yeah, it's it's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: smoke and mirrors there. You don't know who you're you're
Speaker 2: actually dealing with is and so yeah, got to be careful,
Speaker 2: got to be careful.
Speaker 6: I think I think he ought to just maybe he's
Speaker 6: just playing with people. But no, he's talking about putting
Speaker 6: in the hole and being able to he's making that
Speaker 6: golf reference and yeah, being able to walk at the ball.
Speaker 6: That's ridiculous. You know, we're talking about bad comparison.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 6: I don't think he should be involved with it. And
Speaker 6: he had to listen to Lindsey and that uh, this
Speaker 6: one who said to take a bullet. She's smart. There
Speaker 6: are cruis that's smart. Just don't do it. Don't be
Speaker 6: a fool. It really reduces the guy that I voted for.
Speaker 6: It reduces the Republican you know agenda.
Speaker 2: It's a total distraction, total distraction, all right, unnecessary unforced
Speaker 2: error to keep the sports betafore going.
Speaker 6: Thanks, thanks, yeah, exactly, you have a good night.
Speaker 2: Thank you you too. Let's keep rolling here. Where we're
Speaker 2: going to go next to Jim, Hey Jim in Missouri,
Speaker 2: Hey Jim, next on nightsag right ahead.
Speaker 8: Dan Hi thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2: How are you right back at you? How are you
Speaker 2: doing tonight?
Speaker 8: Unhappy?
Speaker 1: Thanks?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 8: Well, three things. Okay. First of all, somebody somebody else
Speaker 8: said already one of the things that I was going
Speaker 8: to say, which is that there are several air Force ones.
Speaker 8: Now exactly how many there are? I don't think anything, right,
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's too But someone said three.
Speaker 8: So that's someone maybe knows. Okay, there's more than one.
Speaker 8: So first of all, that's the first thing. They'd have
Speaker 8: to donate more than one of them. So okay. First
Speaker 8: of all, the second thing is has this ever been
Speaker 8: approved before? If it has, how many times does Congress
Speaker 8: have to approve something before? You know, if it's never
Speaker 8: been approved before, Okay, well then then probably it's not
Speaker 8: going to happen. But the third thing is, and this,
Speaker 8: this is one thing I want to say for sure.
Speaker 8: If what I would say to Donald Trump is wrung
Speaker 8: what you've brung, don't get new stuff because new stuff
Speaker 8: has a habit of breaking down. And there's one thing
Speaker 8: you don't want to break down. It's your airplane. Right,
Speaker 8: So take the next call.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Thanks Jim, appreciate it. Bye, short, sweet to
Speaker 2: the point like that. Let me go next two that
Speaker 2: line of number three. I have no idea who that
Speaker 2: is Rob. So in the meantime, let me go to
Speaker 2: Chris down to the Cape, Chris and the Cape next
Speaker 2: on nightside, Chris, go right ahead, Yeah, Hi, Hi Chris there,
Speaker 2: I am definitely here. I hope you're there as well.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead. You're in the air.
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yes? I can, Chris. Actually we're having a conversation right
Speaker 2: now on the air.
Speaker 1: Ahead. Yeah, very briefly, going back to Greek mythology, beware
Speaker 1: of Greek sparing gifts. And that was the Trojan Horse
Speaker 1: story by Kuhn. And that's all I have to say.
Speaker 2: So beware of Katari's bearing gifts. Okay, correct, fair enough?
Speaker 1: Watch how could that Trojan horse?
Speaker 2: All right, Chris appreciate it, Thank you very much. To
Speaker 2: the point, thank you, six one seven thirty. Those lines
Speaker 2: are full. There were two lines open at six one
Speaker 2: seven nine. Let me go to David in San Francisco. David,
Speaker 2: let's let's try to stay on track. Right ahead, David, Oh, I.
Speaker 9: Was gonna mirror that previous color Trojan Horse? How could
Speaker 9: Trump be so dumb as to accept the trojan horse.
Speaker 9: But he did accept a pack of limousines from from
Speaker 9: fat Tony Salerno when he built his casinos, and those
Speaker 9: were probably wire tapped so that he could make use
Speaker 9: of blackmail, uh, tied to his casino.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Kind of you're kind of again going going off in
Speaker 2: a direction that I know nothing about, and I have
Speaker 2: no idea who Tony Salerno is. Uh. And so if
Speaker 2: you like to stay back on what we're talking about tonight,
Speaker 2: that's great. If not, well we'll bid you do.
Speaker 9: Well. It's the guy is pretty damn dumb if you
Speaker 9: imagine that he would accept a gift that could be
Speaker 9: wire tapped, could be sabotaged, and it clearly is a
Speaker 9: conflict of interest with the with the Constitution, he's not
Speaker 9: supposed to accept emoluments from anybody, much less a kingdom.
Speaker 9: And for Trump to pretend in fact, I heard another
Speaker 9: show this morning saying that he has a real estate
Speaker 9: deal with Qatar going right now, and the four hundred
Speaker 9: million would come to about ten percent of that, So
Speaker 9: it would be a ten percent kickback for his real
Speaker 9: estate deal in Qatar.
Speaker 2: I think we've just gone off the rail. So if
Speaker 2: you have the plank, Rob, I appreciate it. We're going
Speaker 2: to big David to night. Thank you, David. Let's keep
Speaker 2: rolling here, love David. But I'll tell you we just
Speaker 2: cleared a lot of calls. Bob and Rainham. Hey Bob,
Speaker 2: welcome back. How are you, Hey, Dan?
Speaker 10: How's it going.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Any luck on that thing we talked
Speaker 2: about off there, I hope.
Speaker 10: Not too much. Pretty much what you kind of said,
Speaker 10: probably what happened. I think I should have struck while
Speaker 10: the iron was hot. But anyway, okay, you go back
Speaker 10: and we can talk about it.
Speaker 1: Go right ahead.
Speaker 10: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So there's no way President Trump should accept that aircraft.
Speaker 10: But two things. First of all, Boeing should be embarrassed
Speaker 10: to tears for where they are with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about a little late here talking about whoa.
Speaker 10: Yeah, they should have a press conference tomorrow saying mister President,
Speaker 10: you know this thing will be moved to the front
Speaker 10: of the line and you'll have it whatever by a
Speaker 10: reasonable time, not by whenever. It is two thousand.
Speaker 2: Twenty seven. That contract I believe was executed in twenty
Speaker 2: seventeen for three point nine billion dollars boy, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: going to get my my Boeing stock. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be buying any Boeing stock, that's for sure.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 10: And then the second thing, to save face, I think
Speaker 10: if he wanted to, you know, do something for the
Speaker 10: American people with I believe they're you know, a large
Speaker 10: oil producing country, say hey, I can't accept that playing
Speaker 10: thanks but no thanks, But how about let's make a
Speaker 10: deal and fill up my oil reserves that the previous
Speaker 10: administration emptied on me. I'll tell you this, maybe do
Speaker 10: something in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Bob, with the price of oil now
Speaker 2: around sixty three sixty four dollars, this is probably the
Speaker 2: time that he should be refilling the oil reserves. I
Speaker 2: have no idea where US oil reserves are now, but
Speaker 2: if they need to be refilled, this isn't a bad time.
Speaker 10: Well, I think he wanted to do it. And when
Speaker 10: when they were when it was like thirty bucks a barrel,
Speaker 10: and they wouldn't let him do it.
Speaker 2: Bob, it hasn't been thirty in a while.
Speaker 10: Well, I think it was for a period of time
Speaker 10: during his administration.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yes, yeah, but that's that's now eight years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely right, But.
Speaker 10: He wanted to fill it then, and uh, you know,
Speaker 10: the Democratic Congress wouldn't allow him to do it for
Speaker 10: some reason from what I remember. But anyway, I think
Speaker 10: I think that would be a good resolved for it
Speaker 10: and show that again he really is for the American
Speaker 10: people and not for himself. I mean, you know this,
Speaker 10: this supposedly would save us money if they gave it
Speaker 10: to us as a gift. But it just isn't right.
Speaker 10: It doesn't The appearance is horrible. You can't and again
Speaker 10: and again Boeing should just jump right to the should
Speaker 10: have a press conference tomorrow and tell him we'll have
Speaker 10: this fire by the end of the year or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, the last numbers I'm looking at
Speaker 2: here crude oil and natural gas reserves. Uh, at the
Speaker 2: last numbers I have from twenty twenty two, and we're
Speaker 2: in much better shape. We have seven hundred trillion cubic
Speaker 2: feet of natural gas and we have fifty billion barrels
Speaker 2: of crude oil as of the end of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: That is up from twenty ten, substantially. Substantially. In twenty
Speaker 2: ten we only had twenty billion barrels of oil. We
Speaker 2: now have sixty Well, as of twenty twenty two, we
Speaker 2: had sixty billion barrels of oil, and likewise, natural gas
Speaker 2: reserve have increased dramatically since twenty ten, actually about triple,
Speaker 2: so we're in pretty good shape in that regard. There
Speaker 2: was a dip during the Biden administration, but it looks
Speaker 2: as if that dip was filled pretty quickly.
Speaker 10: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2: That's actually good news. I haven't seen those numbers in
Speaker 2: a while, but I was able to pop all up
Speaker 2: real quickly. Bod keep in touch, keep in touch.
Speaker 7: Okay, I thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, you gotta take quick break bottom of the eye
Speaker 2: with the only line open. Now we got two at
Speaker 2: six point seven thirty had a variety of viewpoints. Feel
Speaker 2: free to express whatever you think about this one. It's
Speaker 2: it's been an amazing conversation, and I'm delighted with all
Speaker 2: of the viewpoints we've we've heard, and by the way,
Speaker 2: it hasn't necessarily well. I think Trump's supporters are strongly
Speaker 2: split on this. Trump critics remain critical of President Trump
Speaker 2: on this in most other matters. Back on night Side
Speaker 2: right after this.
Speaker 5: It's Night Side with.
Speaker 1: Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: A lot of calls let's keep rolling. You're going to
Speaker 2: go to Eric in Methuin. Hey Eric, welcome back. How
Speaker 2: are you tonight?
Speaker 5: Good evening, Dan. I'm kind of shocked that I turned
Speaker 5: into this issue. I'm retired from the Navy now, and
Speaker 5: I've flown and served in every single one of those
Speaker 5: countries in the midst except for Iran of course, and
Speaker 5: I've lived in Bahrain over there. And there's a couple
Speaker 5: of things. A I'd much rather have Mid East countries
Speaker 5: offering stuff to us than not offering.
Speaker 1: Stuff to us.
Speaker 5: Let's look at that point there there are we're going
Speaker 5: to give the Statue of Liberty back. I mean we
Speaker 5: took that as a gift. I mean it was that
Speaker 5: a trojan horse, sue I'd much rather have. I'd much
Speaker 5: rather have Arab countries having a positive attitude towards us
Speaker 5: and saying here, we're going to give you something, you know,
Speaker 5: and I just look at it. You can't really replace
Speaker 5: it Air Force one with something that's not built from scratch,
Speaker 5: because as starting off from the Navy's an aircraft mechanic,
Speaker 5: as an enlisted guy, I those planes are built with
Speaker 5: a lot of shielding and everything, and a lot of
Speaker 5: systems that are built for if we go to war
Speaker 5: type of scenarios. So to rework a plane that's gifted
Speaker 5: to us into a plane that's got the systems that
Speaker 5: Air Force one has on it would cost more than
Speaker 5: just building an air Force one from scratch.
Speaker 1: Number two.
Speaker 5: Air Force one is not even that old that the
Speaker 5: airplanes that are based out of Andrews right now, those
Speaker 5: seven forty sevens aren't.
Speaker 1: Really that old.
Speaker 6: I mean we have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, that's when they were built, and they
Speaker 5: actually had to be rebuilt because the original Air Force
Speaker 5: one seven forty sevens built in the eighties did not
Speaker 5: have all the shielding and everything for electromagic pulse and
Speaker 5: all that sort of stuff that happens, so they had
Speaker 5: to rebuild those airplanes. But we have V fifty two's
Speaker 5: that are seventy years old that people are still flying
Speaker 5: right now in the Air Force on the front line.
Speaker 5: So the planes aren't that old. But no, I will definitely,
Speaker 5: you know, we have to stop stereotyping. I mean, it
Speaker 5: was okay to take gifts from other countries, but just
Speaker 5: because they're Arab countries, there's lots of good people in
Speaker 5: those countries that have a lot of respect for America
Speaker 5: and want to be friends with them America and prefer
Speaker 5: to be friends of America. We have bases, I have
Speaker 5: flown into all those countries and landed, and aircraft need
Speaker 5: a lot of support and helped just like ships do,
Speaker 5: and our navy ships and naval aircraft that land in
Speaker 5: those countries need a lot of support from from the
Speaker 5: local population, from workers and everything else. And they're their force,
Speaker 5: and they do their work with a smile on their face,
Speaker 5: even in the middle of July when it's one hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty five degrees out.
Speaker 11: And I'm just curious, how safe do you feel as
Speaker 11: a member of the US military when you're on a
Speaker 11: US military air base in some of those countries which
Speaker 11: you know, I always go back to nine to eleven
Speaker 11: and fifteen of the nineteen hijackers with Saudi.
Speaker 5: Right, And I've been in Saudi Arabia when when I
Speaker 5: went over for Iraqi Freedom, the first base we landed
Speaker 5: at was Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia. As
Speaker 5: far as being you know, and I know the Kobe
Speaker 5: Towers happened. I knew somebody an F fifteen PI that
Speaker 5: was killed in the nineteen ninety six attack at that base.
Speaker 5: But as far as safe, I mean, our large, probably
Speaker 5: the largest air base in the world is over there.
Speaker 5: I think it's cutter and and we you know, we
Speaker 5: have bases in every one of those countries, and we
Speaker 5: hire local population to help out working at those bases.
Speaker 5: And I feel very safe at those bases.
Speaker 2: And I mean that's good because I've never been to
Speaker 2: those countries in the Middle East. I have been overseas
Speaker 2: and a whole bunch of different areas, but never been there.
Speaker 2: So do you when you're in those countries, do you
Speaker 2: go off base? And is it a different feel when
Speaker 2: you're off base, when you're in a city or you know,
Speaker 2: somewhere that's do you not on a US military base?
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean they still have diplomatic areas where more
Speaker 5: things are allowed than not in the diplomatic areas out
Speaker 5: in the cities like in Manama City and stuff, and
Speaker 5: in Dubai and Abu Dhabi as well. But those cities
Speaker 5: are becoming more and more Asternized and more liberal as
Speaker 5: far as their culture and what they allow. So they
Speaker 5: look to the West quite a bit because they you know,
Speaker 5: they know the oil thing is I mean, we don't
Speaker 5: get the oil that we We don't rely on them
Speaker 5: for oil like we did at one point.
Speaker 6: So they know they.
Speaker 5: Need banking and financing. You're not going to go over
Speaker 5: there with your funds and put it in their banks.
Speaker 5: If they're a radical religious government, right, you know, they
Speaker 5: want you banking in their banks. And like Bahrain, Bahrain
Speaker 5: and Cutter have both turned into big They want to
Speaker 5: be like Switzerland. They want you to feel safe about
Speaker 5: using their banks. You know, banking has become one of
Speaker 5: their biggest one of the biggest industries has become banking
Speaker 5: because they know the oil thing over and out, so
Speaker 5: they want you to feel safe about investing over there.
Speaker 5: You know, they've got big golf courses, they've got resorts,
Speaker 5: they've got they've got star hotels.
Speaker 2: I believe that that Trump is building for a big
Speaker 2: golf course, eighteen home golf course, you know, big golf
Speaker 2: course where they'll have you know, PGA tournaments. I'm sure
Speaker 2: in guitar Cutter.
Speaker 5: You know what amazes me is we don't have enough
Speaker 5: water in California all the time, but somehow the Mid
Speaker 5: East you can take the longest shower and the big
Speaker 5: hotels that are really nice. I've stayed in, have like
Speaker 5: five shower heads in the showers and there's endless water
Speaker 5: because they have those desalination plants. Why, I don't know
Speaker 5: why we can't do that here, but the's off subject.
Speaker 5: But anyways, my thing is what you know, if a
Speaker 5: Mid East country wants to do something for us and
Speaker 5: gift us something, they're just trying to be like France
Speaker 5: was at one point. They're just trying to be friendly.
Speaker 5: They're just making a gesture and say, you know, even
Speaker 5: if we say no, thanks, it's cheaper for us to
Speaker 5: build a plant from scratch. Say you know what, thanks
Speaker 5: a lot for trying to give us a gift. I
Speaker 5: just say thank you, Eric, Eric.
Speaker 2: Frust of all, thank you for your service. Sounds like
Speaker 2: it's been quite an adventure for you.
Speaker 5: It was a ride of a lifetime. I'm sixty five countries.
Speaker 5: I have skied on a volcano and in so many
Speaker 5: weird places.
Speaker 1: Including.
Speaker 5: Including Dubai, you know, in indoors and in Japan, and
Speaker 5: I've hiked in weird places. And yeah, it was a
Speaker 5: ride of a lifetime. I've stance retired. I retired three
Speaker 5: years ago. Dan, Yes, and I.
Speaker 2: Put in sounds like you put in twenty four years.
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, twenty four years. And it was it was
Speaker 5: he it was one hecker ARide. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2: And I write a book. I write a book.
Speaker 5: I have more people to tell me that, and you know,
Speaker 5: but it was great and I got I just got
Speaker 5: married last September to a great ballet dancer. And life's
Speaker 5: never went better.
Speaker 8: I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2: You get it all. Congratulations on everything, and thank you
Speaker 2: on everything, and keep calling the show. You're a great
Speaker 2: call I appreciate it. Eric, Thank you much.
Speaker 5: All right, I have a great night.
Speaker 1: Dan, thank you too.
Speaker 2: All right, good night. Wow, that's so good. That was interesting.
Speaker 2: All right, let me get real quickly. Here got Matt
Speaker 2: and Brighton. Gonna get you in Matt before the break, right.
Speaker 6: Ahead, all right, hey you there, let's go.
Speaker 2: We gotta go.
Speaker 12: All right, yeah, no, no, no, absolute gratitude to the service
Speaker 12: of the last caller.
Speaker 6: That's much respect.
Speaker 12: I will on the views he expressed, however, I will,
Speaker 12: you know, disagree. I think guitar or cutter. You know,
Speaker 12: it's called over in the West during the world. It's
Speaker 12: not our friend. It's definitely not Israel's friend. They are
Speaker 12: not part of NATO. They are part of the non
Speaker 12: military or the non alliance part of NATO. Although so
Speaker 12: they say they're America's friend through that. But taking a
Speaker 12: gift of a thirteen year old plane four hundred million dollars,
Speaker 12: Trump can give it to the Library of Congress, you know,
Speaker 12: aft before he leaves and probably find a loophole. I
Speaker 12: don't know how genuine the offer is. And that's where
Speaker 12: my line, would you know, lay they have a They
Speaker 12: do have a big base over there, absolutely that he's true,
Speaker 12: and there are a lot of Americans who are over there.
Speaker 12: Guitar also pays an absolutely huge amount of money for
Speaker 12: citizens to stay there. They're a partial monarchy, so their
Speaker 12: government is not a defacto based on religion, and it
Speaker 12: doesn't have My point is I wouldn't completely trust their intentions.
Speaker 12: So fair enough, but Donald don't do it all.
Speaker 2: Right, And again you're a supporter, so I mean it's.
Speaker 5: I think it's interesting everything that I I don't understand.
Speaker 2: That, but I think those look, there are peat in
Speaker 2: the audience, like my friend David in San Francisco, who
Speaker 2: anything that Donald Trump does will be criticized. I mean
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump, you know, you come up with a
Speaker 2: proverbial cure for cancer. David would have a problem with it,
Speaker 2: and I understand that he doesn't like Donald Trump, but
Speaker 2: you take everything that David says with the grain of salt.
Speaker 2: But I'm surprised. I shouldn't say I'm surprised. I think
Speaker 2: that there's been a lot of people who tend to
Speaker 2: be either Trump supporters or supportive of many of his initiatives,
Speaker 2: who tonight have said no on this, which is very
Speaker 2: interesting to me. It's been an interesting couple of hours.
Speaker 10: Really has why should he take it?
Speaker 6: Why should take it?
Speaker 12: What are they doing for us?
Speaker 2: Believe I.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Appreciated Boddy, talk to you soon. Have a great one. Okay,
Speaker 2: I got I got enough callers to get through here,
Speaker 2: but I'm I got a couple of open lines six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six month seven nine, three, one, ten thirty
Speaker 2: if you want last on this. Should Donald Trump take
Speaker 2: that plane from Cutter? I think the majority of my
Speaker 2: folks are saying no. Eric probably was the strongest in
Speaker 2: support of it. But we've we've had a really good
Speaker 2: discussion for two hours in this. I'm gratified and I
Speaker 2: think everyone who has called, and if you haven't, you
Speaker 2: got the numbers coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's night Side with.
Speaker 2: Boston's news Radio, gratified by a lot of different voices
Speaker 2: tonight as well. Love my regular callers, but I love
Speaker 2: new callings. I we're going to Dave in New Jersey. Dave,
Speaker 2: You're next Nightside Welcome.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Otherwise there's the original day from Maryland.
Speaker 1: How you being Dan?
Speaker 2: I remember Dave from Maryland. Have you moved or you drive?
Speaker 13: I'm actually I took a ride here all the way
Speaker 13: up to Manhattan. So now I'm on my way back home.
Speaker 2: From Maryland to Manhattan. Just on joy ride.
Speaker 13: D seeds in New York for a substantial amount of money.
Speaker 13: But anyway, that wasn't a joy ride.
Speaker 2: But you're working, you're working ahead of.
Speaker 13: Yeah, no, I'm on the way home anyway. Seriously, it's illegal, unconstitutional,
Speaker 13: very selfish, very narcissistic. I think if Cutter or guitar
Speaker 13: or whatever you want to call them would cut a
Speaker 13: check to the United States of America for four hundred
Speaker 13: billion dollars and they would put it towards this air
Speaker 13: traffic control debacle, that would be way more efficient than
Speaker 13: what accepting a wanta be air Force one. If Trump,
Speaker 13: if he had any sense that all, he'd be in
Speaker 13: Europe right now talking to our allies to fix to
Speaker 13: fix the mess that's going on in Ukraine and to
Speaker 13: end that war. To go over there and hang out
Speaker 13: well as rich buddies, to me is just sick. And
Speaker 13: that's what I heard you're talking about. David from San Francisco.
Speaker 13: I'm probably like him. I just think this whole thing
Speaker 13: is a huge bars.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Well, let me just say this, if you if you
Speaker 14: knew David, you would know that he he's very predictable, Okay,
Speaker 14: and so on this situation.
Speaker 2: And by the way, there's a possibility, just to give
Speaker 2: your heads up, that there may be a presidential side
Speaker 2: trip later this week to Turkey. There's some speculation about
Speaker 2: that that there may be something in the wind in
Speaker 2: terms of Ukraine. But again I'm just telling you that
Speaker 2: there's nothing confirmed on that. What he's doing in the
Speaker 2: Middle East is important because if he can get these
Speaker 2: these Arab countries to respect and understand that the enemies
Speaker 2: of Israel are also at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: their enemies. I mean, the the Hooties have been iron
Speaker 2: rockets in Saudi Arabia and the Hoodies are supported by Iran.
Speaker 2: So it's a very complicated situation over there, and we
Speaker 2: need to try to get as many people in our
Speaker 2: camp and supportive of Israel in the Middle East and
Speaker 2: isolate Iran even more.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on here, and I take everything
Speaker 2: you said as being being well thought out, but I
Speaker 2: also want to make sure that we got the context
Speaker 2: of what's going on, and he's just not over there
Speaker 2: for this per se.
Speaker 13: Well, it certainly for the most part, seems like it.
Speaker 13: And there's all, you know, a lot of greed involved,
Speaker 13: and again, you know, look at all the problems we
Speaker 13: have here right now. I think I understand what you're
Speaker 13: saying with Israel and our Erab so called friends. But remember,
Speaker 13: I believe this prince was also involved in killing Koshogi
Speaker 13: was his name from the Wuestion.
Speaker 2: I I don't think there's any question about that. I
Speaker 2: think you're correct on that, absolutely.
Speaker 13: That's right.
Speaker 2: But then at some point, and I understand the point
Speaker 2: you're making, at some point do we declare war on
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia. I'm more concerned about Saudi Arabia. Arabia fifteen
Speaker 2: of the nineteen hijackers with Saudi, and we still don't
Speaker 2: know the truth about nine to eleven, do we No,
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying you're making good points. I'm supporting
Speaker 2: some of your points. But at the same time, whatever
Speaker 2: beef the Saudi government had with Kashow, you're not going
Speaker 2: to bring him back to life. I think you got
Speaker 2: to look at the big picture.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and the big picture is that autocrats rule the
Speaker 13: world and we need to stop that.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, Okay, gave you a final word.
Speaker 2: I gotta get John in New York in here as well.
Speaker 2: Drive carefully, safe trip home.
Speaker 13: Okay, Thanks Dave, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Thank you, come back soon. Let me go to John
Speaker 2: in New York. John, you get a rabbit for us tonight,
Speaker 2: Go right ahead.
Speaker 6: Yes, Hi, I'm gonna make a cluick.
Speaker 7: Good evening, Dan. And I want to say I'm a
Speaker 7: supporter of Donald Trump, and I think he should not
Speaker 7: accept it.
Speaker 6: That's a big no.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a there are a lot of people who
Speaker 2: are regular callers to this program who I know are
Speaker 2: favorably inclined toward President Trump, and they support you on that,
Speaker 2: and a lot of prominent Republicans in Congress, Rain Paul
Speaker 2: ted Cruz, the Lindsey Graham, John Toon, the Majority Leader,
Speaker 2: have also made critical comments, as well as Congresswoman Loomer
Speaker 2: from Colorado, who is his biggest supporter of Donald Trump
Speaker 2: as there is in the House of Representative. She says.
Speaker 2: She says no as well, So you're a good You're
Speaker 2: in good company.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: Tell me why you say.
Speaker 7: No, because it's a suspicious thing in my mind, and
Speaker 7: I don't trust.
Speaker 2: It, you know, Okay, you got it?
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I.
Speaker 7: Think when he thinks it through, I think he'll be
Speaker 7: small enough to realize don't get involved with anything like this.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, I think he might be right, and I think
Speaker 2: that might be we might see the beginning of that discernment,
Speaker 2: if you will, by the reaction of people tonight, John,
Speaker 2: I thank you so much. I got you in late.
Speaker 2: I promise I'll give you more time next time. And
Speaker 2: thank you for being sixtinct.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and one quick thing, did you know he owned
Speaker 7: an airline years ago? The Trump Show?
Speaker 2: Did he own? Did I know?
Speaker 7: He owned one an airline? It was called the Trump Shuttle.
Speaker 7: He bought it from me an airline.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and that went belly up too all.
Speaker 2: I got to run, John, Thank you much. Appreciate everyone.
Speaker 2: To Rob Brooks, great job. Nice to have you back.
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow night. I'll be on Facebook night
Speaker 2: Side with Dan Ray in just a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
Speaker 2: why Pal Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago in February,
Speaker 2: that's where all your pets are who were passed. They
Speaker 2: loved you and you love them. You'll see them again.
Speaker 2: I do believe you'll see them again. See you in
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. At nights I'd see on Facebook in a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes. Rob, thank you, Maria, thank you to
Speaker 2: all the callers, new and old alike. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: See tomorrow night.