Speaker 1: We'll say good night at six o'clock. Then it's gonna
Speaker 1: be time for myself, Gordy Chias and Richard Smith. Smitty
Speaker 1: and Gordy combined like ninety years of experience analyzing talent
Speaker 1: take you through the entire first round tonight, and then
Speaker 1: tomorrow night it'll be just Smitty and I will give
Speaker 1: Gordy the night off. But technically our NBA Draft coverage
Speaker 1: has begun and it will continue. And it's just simply
Speaker 1: been too long since we've heard a little deaf leopard
Speaker 1: on the program, which means it's time for our conversation
Speaker 1: with a great Craig Bowler, Jack Bowler, Happy Wednesday, man,
Speaker 1: how you been.
Speaker 2: Hey pal, good to hear from you. You got a
Speaker 2: nice lineup tonight. Man, you're right, Smittye and Gordy Come on, man,
Speaker 2: that's that goes way back. That's a combination there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no excited for it. We'll have a good time, Bowler.
Speaker 1: So look, we know that you're not the general manager,
Speaker 1: but you're of course the voice of the team and
Speaker 1: you work with the club, So like, what are you hearing?
Speaker 1: What's your understanding about what we could expect tonight from
Speaker 1: the Jazz.
Speaker 2: You know, there's always little whispers and rumblings and you
Speaker 2: know all of his chat and you know, talk to
Speaker 2: other people around the league and you know, get their
Speaker 2: take on what the Jazz are about and just the West,
Speaker 2: you know, basically. And I just I just heard your
Speaker 2: last take from tearing down the Boss? Was it the
Speaker 2: Celtics to the Studs? You know, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: talk in Boston tonight too. There's a lot of talk everywhere.
Speaker 2: But I think the Jazz are aggressive. I'd be stunned
Speaker 2: if they're not. Look Spence, obviously, we talked about this
Speaker 2: before in other years, and I think this is one of,
Speaker 2: if not the most important summer draft of the Jazz. Well,
Speaker 2: if they brought in Big t in eighty three, they
Speaker 2: had Mark there, they had then stockedon in eighty four,
Speaker 2: Malone in eighty five. It was a process, but for
Speaker 2: just one particular draft, I think this thing is big.
Speaker 2: You got the five pick you last year you won seventeen.
Speaker 2: The fans were all in on the growth factor of
Speaker 2: a Walker Kessler. They saw the emergence of Isaiah Collier,
Speaker 2: they saw what Philips can do. Obviously, upset that Taylor
Speaker 2: Hendrix was injured and you really couldn't get a good
Speaker 2: feel of what his talent level is. Cody Williams disappointed
Speaker 2: a bit, but you know, when you're top ten, you
Speaker 2: know expectations are high. So I think with Austin ings
Speaker 2: now it's Spence at the helm and the assets that
Speaker 2: Danny hands to him, there's a lot of possibilities tonight.
Speaker 2: I think it's a busy night. We'll talk tomorrow, and
Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong, but the opportunity to be
Speaker 2: busy with a five and twenty one tonight and do
Speaker 2: you move up from twenty one? Do you make some
Speaker 2: late deals or deals during the draft? I think it's
Speaker 2: busy at least that's kind of the buzz that I've
Speaker 2: heard in people I've talked to.
Speaker 1: So the Austin factor is interesting, Craig for a few
Speaker 1: different reasons. I don't know that I would go as
Speaker 1: far as to say unprecedented, but I will use the
Speaker 1: adjective for an owner to hire the new decision maker
Speaker 1: mere weeks before potentially the biggest draft this organization has
Speaker 1: seen in a number of years. And look, it's not
Speaker 1: like Austin doesn't know the staff. He might know Danny
Speaker 1: that's my guest. He might know Danny Ainge pretty well,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he knows Zanik and everybody else. It's
Speaker 1: not like this is a random Eastern European scout that
Speaker 1: you brought over to run the team. Like people know Austin.
Speaker 1: Austin knows people. I'm not saying it's completely new as
Speaker 1: far as relationships go, but it is new as far
Speaker 1: as the loudest voice in the room being hired weeks
Speaker 1: before the draft. What sort of dynamic do you think
Speaker 1: that brings in a play?
Speaker 2: You know, that's a great question. I'm with you. I
Speaker 2: think it's a tough position for Austin Ainge to take. Obviously,
Speaker 2: embrace the moment opportunity once in a lifetime to recharge,
Speaker 2: rebuild a franchise. But you talk about doing quick homework. Look,
Speaker 2: he's in the East, Yes he's his dad's been with
Speaker 2: a Jazz for multiple years now with Ryan at the Helm.
Speaker 2: But you know, your focus is on Boston at the time,
Speaker 2: and your focus is on Eastern Conference teams, and obviously
Speaker 2: you know something about the West, but now you're in
Speaker 2: a deep dive here, you know, and maybe you work
Speaker 2: your magic in the East with player subtractions or additions,
Speaker 2: you know, and moving a player here or moving a
Speaker 2: player there, and using your contacts. It's really about contact spence,
Speaker 2: as you know from you know your you know your
Speaker 2: dad with the jazz and and and and everything in
Speaker 2: New York. I mean, I think it's really how do
Speaker 2: you use your your insight, your contacts and can you
Speaker 2: move one chess piece to appease you and help a
Speaker 2: piece another? And I'm I'm guessing Austin's got to be
Speaker 2: pretty good at that to be in a position where
Speaker 2: he was with the Celtics. He learned from from Danny,
Speaker 2: he's been with Brad Stevens, and tonight he'll be on
Speaker 2: full display. Well, I'm heading down right now to the
Speaker 2: Science Bank Basketball campus and I'm anxious to see if
Speaker 2: I can get a minute with him, because that's kind
Speaker 2: of the question I had too, is where are you at?
Speaker 2: And you're you know, there's there's draft picks available nine
Speaker 2: I believe in all that rank up to twenty thirty
Speaker 2: one second round picks as well, So there's a lot
Speaker 2: of opportunity for him to move and make deals. But
Speaker 2: does he actually use him tonight or is it down
Speaker 2: the road? How aggressive spence is my question does he
Speaker 2: want to be and really how aggressive does Ryan want
Speaker 2: him to be? Hockey's on the upswing the Jazz Nation.
Speaker 2: I thought last year did a remarkable job. You talked,
Speaker 2: we talked a lot about this during the season that
Speaker 2: when you were there and dropped by the booth, I
Speaker 2: mean you were impressed. I was impressed. I thought Delta
Speaker 2: Center hung tough throughout the entire season with watching the
Speaker 2: young guys grow. And I keep going back to the
Speaker 2: time too when Will Hardy said earlier in his career
Speaker 2: that you know, this isn't an easy place to work.
Speaker 2: I mean, the NBA is for the elite. Some will
Speaker 2: make it, some will not. Who has the guts to
Speaker 2: put the work in. And we're probably going to start
Speaker 2: seeing three years now into Will's career as the head coach,
Speaker 2: the data points, the data, the data is all in
Speaker 2: on these you know, these these picks that Will was
Speaker 2: a part of. And I think the question is we
Speaker 2: might get some answers here in the next week, maybe tonight,
Speaker 2: who stays, who goes, and you know, who is going
Speaker 2: to be a part of the cores. And I think
Speaker 2: those are big questions that have to be answered, and
Speaker 2: you know what, Austin Ainge is going to help answer them.
Speaker 1: You know the other dynamic Craig that this brings into
Speaker 1: play with Austin is now the decision maker, is he
Speaker 1: did not draft any of the players that have been
Speaker 1: drafted over the past few years. He did not trade
Speaker 1: for Lowry, he did not trade for Walker. Literally zero
Speaker 1: of these players have Austin's fingerprints on them, which leads
Speaker 1: me to believe there are zero players on the roster
Speaker 1: that he've used as untouchable. And I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to dismiss and diminish and
Speaker 1: disrespect a veteran like Lowry or a young player like Walker,
Speaker 1: But outside of those two, and maybe even including those two,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Austin to use anybody as Okay.
Speaker 1: They have proven to me that they are part of
Speaker 1: this thing long term, which really brings everything into play
Speaker 1: and it makes it kind of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, that's another great point in any business,
Speaker 2: and you've been involved, I've been involved CBS. For me,
Speaker 2: new people come in, they make them, they make change,
Speaker 2: they put someone that they do have a fingerprint on,
Speaker 2: and then there's an untouchable on occasion. But same at Fox,
Speaker 2: same at KSL Radio is no different. And you know,
Speaker 2: I go back to Dennis Lindsay. You know he was
Speaker 2: very protective. You remember of a guy you know that
Speaker 2: came out of Australia, you know, you know Dante, and
Speaker 2: it was tough for him to it wasn't going to work.
Speaker 2: And that's what you just alluded to is the fingerprint
Speaker 2: of protecting your pick because it reflects on your decision
Speaker 2: making and if you go someplace else, then you say,
Speaker 2: look look what I did. And I think you make
Speaker 2: a great point. These players are players, and I know
Speaker 2: Danny or Danny and Austin during the process respect that.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I think the way the
Speaker 2: business is run is that you know what, if I
Speaker 2: got to move you, that's just part of the business.
Speaker 2: And you know, the relationship probably is not let's just
Speaker 2: call it what it is. It can't be that strong.
Speaker 2: But he hasn't had a chance to even get to
Speaker 2: know them as much as you would leve like Teddy
Speaker 2: drafted him. It's a totally different ballgame. Will Hardy's invested
Speaker 2: because he's coached all these guys and helped helped develop
Speaker 2: and watch their maturation. But yeah, Austin's in a position,
Speaker 2: Spence I think is a great, great point. He could
Speaker 2: make moves without a lot of emotion attached. Does that
Speaker 2: make sense because a lot of gms have trouble moving
Speaker 2: a pick that they actually brought in or a free
Speaker 2: agent that they made you know, that they brought in
Speaker 2: as well. So I think tonight, you know, maybe not
Speaker 2: as an emotional one for Austin, but yet, let's be honest,
Speaker 2: the pressure's on. I think there's a lot of pressure
Speaker 2: to push this team ahead.
Speaker 1: Well in Austin's dad, Danny at his introductory press conference
Speaker 1: when he was announced as the CEO of Jazz Basketball,
Speaker 1: and I always chuckle when I bring this lineup. It
Speaker 1: just made me laugh because I've known Danny since I
Speaker 1: was a kid. He said, you all should know that
Speaker 1: I remove emotion from decision making when it comes to
Speaker 1: roster construction. Then he traded Donovan and he traded Rudy
Speaker 1: like he broke the whole thing down, you know. And
Speaker 1: so I would imagine Austin operates very much in the
Speaker 1: same mold as his pops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, And you know what I
Speaker 2: would may get our first real hint of that tonight
Speaker 2: if the Jazz, if the right situation approaches. I still
Speaker 2: think most GM's most not all, are are working on
Speaker 2: that same basis spence, trying to let not the emotions
Speaker 2: dictate what moves they make. There's been cases where I
Speaker 2: think maybe a player has stayed too long because of
Speaker 2: that tie to a franchise. But if the Jazz need
Speaker 2: to make a break, I would think this would probably
Speaker 2: mean probably mean the most opportunistic time because of a
Speaker 2: new you know, you just said it. He's the loudest
Speaker 2: voice in the room tonight, and it's going to be
Speaker 2: really interesting what direction and just how loud that voice is,
Speaker 2: because there are plenty of opportunities to move vets, to
Speaker 2: also use picks to improve your position and be more aggressive.
Speaker 2: You know, if they stay at twenty one, I may
Speaker 2: be surprised. I may I think I would be. I
Speaker 2: think if there's a player that really they feel like
Speaker 2: is perfect fit and they have to go to fifteen
Speaker 2: to get him, maybe that's the case because they have
Speaker 2: the assets at least to be in the conversation and
Speaker 2: for all indications and all the all the websites you've
Speaker 2: been on I've been on the Jazz keep popping up
Speaker 2: on occasion about being you know, Paul's are being fielded,
Speaker 2: and that's interesting because a lot of times that information
Speaker 2: doesn't leak out because you know, back from your dad's
Speaker 2: time to Scottie Laden and Kevin O'Connor, Dennis h Man,
Speaker 2: it's it's like playing you know, I wouldn't want to
Speaker 2: play poker with him because they are as straight faced
Speaker 2: and tight lift as they can be. And that's that's
Speaker 2: their job, because they got to protect the players that
Speaker 2: are on the roster and not interfere, you know, with
Speaker 2: their with the relationships. But it's it's a you know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of a touchy ground to try to work
Speaker 2: your way around all those all those issues of feel
Speaker 2: good good relations but yet still talking about a player
Speaker 2: potentially moving or you know, bringing another guy in.
Speaker 1: So you know, without knowing the mindset of the organization
Speaker 1: and what direction they're going to go, it does make
Speaker 1: it difficult tantalize what they should or should not do
Speaker 1: tonight because are they going to try to expedize this process.
Speaker 1: Are they going to try to use their assets to
Speaker 1: bring in a vet. Are they going to simply just
Speaker 1: go young. And you know, Austin said during his opening
Speaker 1: press conference and response to our very own Sean O'Connell's question,
Speaker 1: that he will not be manipulating minutes or draft capital
Speaker 1: this year. And that's fine, But you do have a
Speaker 1: top eight protected pick that goes to you know, Oklahoma City,
Speaker 1: who you know just want a championship this year if
Speaker 1: you fall out of the top eight. So there's a
Speaker 1: fine line to walk. But as somebody who has a
Speaker 1: front row seat to all of this, uh, there's the
Speaker 1: old draft cliche best player available or you know, somebody
Speaker 1: you draft to fit a need. It feels like they
Speaker 1: need everything. And but if we operate off the premise
Speaker 1: that they feel really good about Marketing and Kessler, maybe
Speaker 1: what they don't need is a big But you know,
Speaker 1: at five, I haven't really heard outside of the mallawatch
Speaker 1: kid from do Gunny Bigs link to them? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like that they are solidified anywhere that would motivate
Speaker 1: a decision to take one player over the other based
Speaker 1: off of need or do you think they just need
Speaker 1: to take the very best player possible at five?
Speaker 2: You know, defense is a lot of things in this league,
Speaker 2: and so is three point shooting, So you know, you're
Speaker 2: always looking for a six to six guy with wingspan
Speaker 2: and beyond and who can knock down a triple. That
Speaker 2: would be a player. I would think the Jazz would
Speaker 2: eyeball obviously, and the top five six players have some
Speaker 2: of that potential obviously, you know, essentially make a great point.
Speaker 2: It depends on what Austin sees in market in a
Speaker 2: twenty eight okay, twenty eight, still a young man, but
Speaker 2: what's the in reality? What is the timetable that Danny
Speaker 2: and Austin and Ryan have put forth? Is this a
Speaker 2: two year, three year, five year because that time the
Speaker 2: Jazz reached a high level in the West. Is marketing
Speaker 2: played himself out right of the contract and the value
Speaker 2: that he actually has right now. He's a unique talent,
Speaker 2: you would agree, being a seven footer can stretch the
Speaker 2: floor and still work himself inside. But I think if
Speaker 2: they stay with the big front line in Philipowski and
Speaker 2: Walker and Lowry, that is intimidating and there's some talent there.
Speaker 2: The biggest question is turnovers, which were I mean just
Speaker 2: I mean they averaged twenty and a half or nearly
Speaker 2: twenty one a game last year. Don't have it in
Speaker 2: front of me. But there were nights that we were
Speaker 2: calling out, you know, twenty seven turnovers and no, you
Speaker 2: can't have that and give your opposition twenty plus, you know,
Speaker 2: extra possessions a game. I still think great teams have
Speaker 2: great point guards, and I think that's where you start.
Speaker 2: You have to make a decision on keyante and I
Speaker 2: think you have to, you know, I think we were
Speaker 2: a little bit wowed with Isaiah Callier getting the call
Speaker 2: in the second half of the season and the speed
Speaker 2: and determination. I think some leadership popped out that Will
Speaker 2: Hardy needs drastically spence with a young team, somebody has
Speaker 2: to be the alpha, and I saw a little bit
Speaker 2: of that start to come out of Isaiah at the
Speaker 2: end of the season when he was given the opportunity.
Speaker 2: You remember he said at USC kind of in the
Speaker 2: behind the light of a guy named Bronnie James, and
Speaker 2: now he's got an opportunity to kind of prove who
Speaker 2: he is and that kind of exciting. Do they stay
Speaker 2: with him or is he a guy they bring off
Speaker 2: the bench. So I think tonight's pick I personally ought
Speaker 2: to be most likely a backcourt player with some defensive
Speaker 2: capability that can spark a team, and I think he's
Speaker 2: got to have an alpha personality as well. You know,
Speaker 2: that's my take, And I think the front line solid.
Speaker 2: John Collins still has the option on his contract, and
Speaker 2: he's played his tail off last year when given the
Speaker 2: opportunity after he finally kind of decided who he was
Speaker 2: and what will Hardy needed out of him. But that's
Speaker 2: a twenty six million dollar decision that the Jazz can
Speaker 2: either say okay or maybe not. After John, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he's gonna take it. Spence, I doubt he's gonna get
Speaker 2: half that on the open markets, so it's gonna be
Speaker 2: interesting to see how that all works out. But I
Speaker 2: think the front line's strong guard, play wing play still
Speaker 2: in need.
Speaker 1: All right, Bowler, let's move over to your thoughts on
Speaker 1: simply a rumor. You know, and look, in this day
Speaker 1: and age of aggregation and this person pretending to be
Speaker 1: an MBA insider and that person just starting a blog.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to make a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of these rumors. But I don't know either, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, and there may be nothing here at all,
Speaker 1: And you know, part of me would really love to
Speaker 1: see some boldness tonight. Then there's part of me that
Speaker 1: understands pragmatically that this is a long game scenario and
Speaker 1: that top draft pick is something you need to hang
Speaker 1: on to, and it's probably more likely, this is my guess,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that we won't see anything super bowld
Speaker 1: this offseason, but we will next off season when some
Speaker 1: of the salaries expire and some of the young players
Speaker 1: maybe show some promise. But there are people that have
Speaker 1: been I hate to even say reporting, but you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of synergies between the Celtic front office
Speaker 1: and the Jazz front office. Danny hired Brad Stevens. Austin
Speaker 1: worked under Brad for the past number of years. While
Speaker 1: Danny was out here, Will Hardy coached Jalen Brown as
Speaker 1: he was the number one assistant for Emi Udoka. I
Speaker 1: don't think it makes sense to bring in a Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown unless you're able to hold on to Lowry and
Speaker 1: hold on to Walker and probably even hold on to five, right,
Speaker 1: And so I don't know what the Jazz would send
Speaker 1: to Boston. I really don't, and I don't know that
Speaker 1: Boston which I wouldn't trade Jalen Brown. But that's just me.
Speaker 1: But if the framework of a deal makes sense and
Speaker 1: is on the table, do you feel like the Jazz
Speaker 1: should pull the trigger to bring in a Jalen Brown?
Speaker 1: Because if you do bring into Jalen Brown and you
Speaker 1: hold on a Walker, you hold on a lowry, you're
Speaker 1: able to hold on a number five, You're not one
Speaker 1: of the eight worst teams in the league. You're just not.
Speaker 1: So you're going to lose that pick next year. So
Speaker 1: do you think something like that does make sense?
Speaker 2: Pers that may be the biggest answer the question and
Speaker 2: the answer that faces a Jazz tonight. And you know what,
Speaker 2: the comment about taking the Celtics down to the Studs
Speaker 2: because of Tatum's injury is intriguing. We wouldn't have this
Speaker 2: conversation if Tatum was healthy, and because that combination of
Speaker 2: Brown and Tatum is dynamic, and Derek White and you
Speaker 2: know that's Boston, I thought would have Yes, they would
Speaker 2: take a step back because of the injury to Tatum,
Speaker 2: but I thought they would just kind of make their
Speaker 2: way for another run. It's really an intriguing thought, is
Speaker 2: it not that you would want to strip a team
Speaker 2: down because of an injury? And yeah, he was hurt, late,
Speaker 2: so he's going to be out for twelve months. They're
Speaker 2: going to be careful with him. And then you have
Speaker 2: to think about, you know, Jalen Brown and what is
Speaker 2: he nine years in or is that Tatum? But you know,
Speaker 2: again it comes to how much longer and how valuable
Speaker 2: and what value does he have back? The connection is interesting.
Speaker 2: I will say that if that would happen tonight, it
Speaker 2: pushes a Jazz forward in hyper drive in my opinion.
Speaker 2: The other part of that is, does a veteran like
Speaker 2: him or any player around the league with that type
Speaker 2: of credential, does that make a younger player even perk
Speaker 2: up and play better? I would probably say yes. The
Speaker 2: other part of this equation in my books, fence, is
Speaker 2: if the Jazz kind of state pat and they do
Speaker 2: want to protect the eighth spot, and they do pick
Speaker 2: up the two players or three or four and the
Speaker 2: other two tomorrow night, you've got to make some roster
Speaker 2: moves obviously to fill to fit them all in. But
Speaker 2: the other part of this equation is, yes, they could
Speaker 2: protect the eight by still playing the younger players. Yes,
Speaker 2: they could win seventeen more. They could be a thirty
Speaker 2: let's say a thirty win team and just just miss
Speaker 2: giving up the eighth spot to Oklahoma City, but yet
Speaker 2: still gain valuable experience and you get a better feel
Speaker 2: of who you are, who says, who goes right? And
Speaker 2: next summer with a very loaded draft, you make even
Speaker 2: your more Boulder moves. So there's options there. But I
Speaker 2: think the question is how fast you want to accelerate
Speaker 2: the process, don't you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I don't think it's ready to be accelerated.
Speaker 1: But the Jalen thing is interesting because he is good
Speaker 1: enough that if you hold on to Lowry, and if
Speaker 1: you hold on to Walker, and if you draft let's
Speaker 1: say Trey Johnson or Jeremiah Fears at five, Taylor comes
Speaker 1: back healthy, Cody makes a little progress, puts on some weight.
Speaker 1: Keante decides he wants to try to guard Isaiah comes
Speaker 1: back and knocks down threes at a higher clip like Craig.
Speaker 1: If they can acquire Jalen and hold on to some
Speaker 1: of their main pieces and the framework like, the only
Speaker 1: way Boston does this is if they are all in
Speaker 1: on simply saving money mode, because the trade that could
Speaker 1: work as Collins and Clarkston and Sexton and a bunch
Speaker 1: of picks for Jalen.
Speaker 2: And if you do that, we have Lily.
Speaker 1: We've we got something, Greg, we do now you do
Speaker 1: sacrifice eight next year, but maybe it's worth it if
Speaker 1: you can get a star player like Jalen Brown at
Speaker 1: the age of twenty eight.
Speaker 2: You know, Spence. The other part of this is we
Speaker 2: really don't know the financial mentality of the new ownership
Speaker 2: of the Celtics. They went for six point one and
Speaker 2: the Lakers just went for ten. The value of who
Speaker 2: the Lakers and the name brand ten billion, pardon me,
Speaker 2: and six point one billion. I wonder what the ownership
Speaker 2: if they're gonna try. Iuld think if you're gonna take
Speaker 2: the Celtics and the Lakers, you've got to play ball,
Speaker 2: right or why even purchase such a an iconic franchise.
Speaker 2: But I'm anxious to see, you know what, money still
Speaker 2: is the bottom line, and they don't to get into
Speaker 2: the second apron, So that is intriguing. If they would
Speaker 2: dump a salary of Jalen Brown to try to break
Speaker 2: it to the Studs while Tatum recovers and then reset
Speaker 2: their reset probably isn't anything close anywhere near close to
Speaker 2: what the Jazz would be faced with because free agency
Speaker 2: and players would flock to Boston because of just who
Speaker 2: they are. But man, I say, you bring up an
Speaker 2: interesting conversation, and you know what, We're gonna get some
Speaker 2: answers here in the next two to four hours.
Speaker 1: All right, Butler, before I set you loose, let's tap
Speaker 1: into that sharp sharp in the mature, you know, just
Speaker 1: sixth sense of yours. I want the Craig Bowler, Jack gut,
Speaker 1: what is it? What does it tell you? What is
Speaker 1: your sixth sense to tell you your north star?
Speaker 2: Tell you?
Speaker 1: Do they drafted five and twenty one? Or do we
Speaker 1: see some movement?
Speaker 2: I think we go five and fifteen. That's just me.
Speaker 2: I think there's I think Austin Age may make an
Speaker 2: impact in this draft tonight. I know it won't be
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag at number five. I can that's my insight. There.
Speaker 2: Here's just something to think about, Spence. I want to
Speaker 2: get your quick thought. I know you got to go.
Speaker 2: But does Canipple Does he disrupt the top five pick
Speaker 2: by any chance? Is he a domino that could change
Speaker 2: things even for the Jazz?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I like him. I just don't know, like
Speaker 1: it feels like a player like Ace Bailey has more
Speaker 1: ceiling potential. I think Colin, I think con excuse me,
Speaker 1: I think conk Nipple is going to be like a
Speaker 1: good solid ten to twelve year NBA vet and a
Speaker 1: pro who can shoot it and guard on the perimeter.
Speaker 1: But I just like and maybe he ends up being
Speaker 1: a steadier piece than Ace Bailey. But if Ace was
Speaker 1: able to reach his potential, it feels like he has
Speaker 1: more like maybe he can be one of those dudes
Speaker 1: potential because of all the intoxicating traits he has and measurements.
Speaker 1: But Cannipple, to me, is more of a safe pick
Speaker 1: for a team that's actually ready to win. The Jazz
Speaker 1: needs star power and I'm not sure Canipple has star power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, He's kind of a toolbox guy. I
Speaker 2: get it. The only reason I bring that up is obviously,
Speaker 2: Will Coach played a duke alongside Flag. You know, he
Speaker 2: got so much hype and he's done well in workouts.
Speaker 2: Ace Bailey refused to work out. That just personally doesn't
Speaker 2: set well with me, but I get how it works today.
Speaker 2: You know, you saw me play. You know who I am,
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