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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference,

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to Matthew now as we get started after a week

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off with a little break there for Thanksgiving, and there

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is a ton to talk about. All right, Matthew, I'm

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turning turning it over to you, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, how you doing, friend? How you doing? Man?

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Speaker 3: I have a I have such a I'm so happy man.

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We're back here. This is the the longest running independent

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ACC podcast in the country. This is the podcast for

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All Sportsdiscussion dot com. Boy, we're really cooking up the

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episodes this week, and we're coming right off the ACC

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Championship game.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, I don't want to get your thoughts thoughts on

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that game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't we don't often see Virginia and

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Duke in the ACC Football Championship.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get you you want to get

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Speaker 1: On that game. Yeah, I mean it was a really

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entertaining game. Hats off to Duke. You know, I think

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they played with a real chip on their shoulder in

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that game yesterday. I mean, the story going into the

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game the entire time was, oh, the tiebreakers is wrong,

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and Duke shouldn't be in the game, and Virginia is

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playing to get into the playoffs, and and you know,

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it just was a huge discussion on that topic. And

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you know, Duke just went in there and you know,

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like I said, played with a played with a chip

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on their shoulder. They were the aggressor the entire time.

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Sorry about that, Okay, Yeah, they were the aggressor of

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the entire time. You saw many dias, you know, going

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for for things in that in that game, even in

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the overtime after Virginia scored the touchdown, you know, he's

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going forward on fourth fourth down in the overtime when

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he could have kicked the could have kicked the field goal.

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And you know, I mean, the rules are the rules. However,

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Duke got in there. They were there, They took advantage

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of it, and they're ACC champions. And you know, I

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think you just add now Virginia to a long list

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of ACC teams that controlled their destiny to get to

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Charlotte and didn't take advantage of I mean, you got

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to start with you got to start with Miami, who

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lost a couple of ACC games, you know, in the

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in the middle of October, and they were probably the

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most talented team. Now you know, for a later discussion,

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they made the playoffs and and it worked out for him,

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but they left it in the hands of the committee.

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And then you go to little who lost two games

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at home to Cal and Clemson unranked Georgia Tech. You know,

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they had Pittsburgh at home in front of a sold

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out crowd. All they had to do was win that

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game and they're going to Charlotte. Didn't finish Pittsburgh at

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home after beating Georgia Tech. You know, they had a

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chance to have themselves in the mix SMU. You know

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on the road at Cal they lose. I mean, all

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of these teams had a chance, you know, to really

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factor in there. I think pitt you know what, might

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have needed some help, but the fact is they would

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have been right there, and then Virginia on Saturday night

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failing to come through, and there it was in the end,

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Duke was a team that you know, took the opportunity

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and you know ACC champions Darien Mensa, Many Manny Diaz.

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I mean, they got they're gonna hang the banner. So

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congratulations do for you know, going in there and taking

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care of business when so many other teams just didn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I think Miami hasn't taken care of business for twenty

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one years, right, Jeff, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I mean when you when you when you

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look at it, I mean, you know has a more

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recent ACC title than Miami.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I had to drop a bomb like that

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because you know what I mean, I'm ranting a little

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bit here now because I don't have a whole lot

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of sympathy for Miami. I mean, having they needed to

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have the committee give them some some sort of a

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holiday gift, I'm gonna call it that right to get

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into the to get into the field, right, And we

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can argue the merits of, you know, whether they should

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get in or not, but the fact remains that they

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haven't been really what anybody expected when they came into

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the ACC, and I think that's probably an understatement. And sure,

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we're happy that they got in, and we'll talk about

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that much more later. But it's been twenty one years

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and they and they haven't won the ACC. And I

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go and honestly, Jeff, I don't expect them to win

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the ACC next year because you're gonna see a lot

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of changes throughout the conference in terms of in terms

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of the football teams. And I don't expect Miami to

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win the ACC next year. And I'm standing here today.

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Speaker 1: How was that? I hear you making a prediction for

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next year today? And we're gonna have to talk about

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that at the you know, at some point in the podcast,

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whether whether the committee gifted Miami or whether they just

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simply made the right decision, you know what.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, well, you know, I can see it from

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both angles. They probably made the right decay. We'll get

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that and we'll get there later.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the fact that the fact is that

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the fact is that Miami needed some help to get in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that's absolutely true, Matthew. I mean,

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there's no question they were definitely the most talented team,

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you know, in the A c C. And you know,

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in the in the middle of the season, it looked

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like they were on cruise control to get to Charlotte,

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and you know, they slipped up at home to Louisville

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and on the road at SMU and you know, it

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did work out for him in the end, but they

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could have took the decision out of the hands of

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the committee. And when you look at it, you know,

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this year, you know, a number of teams could have

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took a lot of decision making out of the hands

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of the of the committee, or you know, they could

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have found themselves very much in Charlotte with a chance

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to play for the championship. And you know, all the

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way into the end until you got to Virginia, who

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you know, you never know when you're going to have

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another opportunity like this again to get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm sorry, Okay, well we'll go on here.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty I own that. That was really good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the thought your thoughts on the college football

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playoffs selections, I think for my advantage point, you know,

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as hard a time as they give Miami, and honestly,

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it's well deserved. Nobody disagrees with me. After twenty one years,

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you should win the ACC. You were brought to the

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You were brought to the ACC to win football games.

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They wanted Florida State, the decision makers, you know this

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as well as I dud Jeff. They wanted Florida State

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Miami to be in that ACC title game. Yeah, that

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hasn't happened. So but the fact is that even though

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I'm giving Miami a hard time here, I think that

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they for the most part, got it right. And I

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think it's at least in my opinion, Jeff as ps

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that that anybody would be giving GMU a hard time,

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And I'd say Jamie James Madison University for our listeners

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who don't know that acronym, giving James Madison University a

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hard time for getting in. Who is what I think

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is well deserving of a well deserving of their playoff

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spot as much as the as much as the you know,

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the the SEC folks would say that, you know, we

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should probably but you know six and six, you know,

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mississip he said or whatever. I think they probably for

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the most part made the right decision. But I want

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to hear on the entrance, Jeff. But I want to

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hear what you have to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that the that the field

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is is mostly is mostly correct. I mean, even as

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we are in a c C podcast, I don't think

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anyone and I know many Diaz had to he had

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to go to bad for his team, and he had

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to make those statements, but I don't think anyone really

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believed that. You know that Duke, you know, should have

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got in over either of the G five teams to

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Lane or James Madison and and and you won't hear

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anyone say that. I mean, the fact is Duke had opportunities.

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I mean they lost to tu Lane. I mean where

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results based podcasts, and you know when when you're when

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you go head to head and you lose, that kind

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of takes everything out of the equation. And they lost

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to Tulane and they lost to Yukon. They have two

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G five losses. So you know, congratulations to Duke. You

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know they are the deserving ACC champions. Whatever you think

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of the tiebreaker format, but I don't think anyone has,

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you know, any problem with the two G five teams

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in there under the given rules. Now what you could see,

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you know, the powers that be seem to really want

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this closed off playoffs. That doesn't mean that there might

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not be rule changes into the future which keeps this

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from happening again. I don't think that's off the table,

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which I think is a massive shame because the likelihood

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of it happening is almost impossible. I mean, the sequence

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of events that had to happen and for Duke to

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win the title and have one a second G five

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team in was was literally almost impossible. I mean, if

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to take place, plus Duke's own losses to get a

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second G five team, and you know, it was it

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was really you know, it was a lightning strike that

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that occurred. But they earned their way in and I

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think particularly Tulane, who I think is going to play

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at Old Miss. I mean, I think Tulane has a

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shot to compete at that game, especially with Lane Kiffen,

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you know, being being out. I think James Madison, you know,

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maybe a little overmatched at Oregon, but we saw him play,

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you know, a pretty good Louisville team that was a

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four quarter game that was really tight going into the

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fourth quarter. I don't think it's out of the question.

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of the question that one of those two teams is

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going to be in their playoff game with a chance

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to win in the fourth quarter. We'll see, and congratulation

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to them. They earned it and deserved it. If you're

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looking at some of the other playoffs selections, Indiana, you know,

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obviously number one seed, no problem there. They beat Ohio State.

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Ohio State fall into two, Georgia three. Little bit surprised

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Georgia didn't move past Ohio State, but it doesn't really matter,

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you know, two or three. Texas Tech at four, you know,

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Texas Tech team. I mean, they're really good at the

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line of scrimmage and wouldn't shock me at all if

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Texas Tech, you know, wins a game or two. I'm

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not sure they can get all the way and win

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the national championship, but I mean if they get a

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couple of breaks here or there with some matchups, think

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it could happen. Texas Tech is a legit top five team,

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then you know, good with Oregon a little surprise that

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Old Miss stated, you know, I think they're six there

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if I remember with the coaching changes. I mean, if

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we're looking at past years, you know, loss of players

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coaches seem to affect a loss more. But you know

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it was wrong back then. Let's not double the error

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and so you know, Ole Miss don't have a problem,

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you know with them in the playoffs. Would have thought

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they might have dropped a little bit. Then you look

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at seventh Texas A and M one loss out of

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the SEC, it's probably fine. Eight Oklahoma, that's probably reasonable too.

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to have a big problem. Alabama hasn't been This hasn't

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looked like a playoff caliber team in over a month,

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if we're being honest. It started with a struggle win

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against a really bad South Carolina team. They struggled at home,

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lost to Oklahoma. They struggled with a pretty bad Auburn

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team just a couple of weeks ago, and somehow the

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committee gave them credit for a close win over a

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five victory Auburn team. And then they looked absolutely awful

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against Georgia minus three rushing yards. Matthew, you and I

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had more rushing yards against Georgia than Alabama did. So

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how Alabama did? Yeah, I mean that did. I mean,

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of dominant team the entire season, because just the week before,

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you know, and let's be honest, a defensively challenged Georgia

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Tech team helped Georgia sixteen points and had a chance

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to tie that game on the final play. I mean,

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they went toe to toe with Georgia and Georgia the

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very next week later boat race Alabama. And there are

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so many things wrong with having a team in a

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championship game that doesn't even drop a couple spots. I mean,

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I understand you don't want to penalize teams that make

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their championship game if they're already in the playoffs. I mean,

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that's understandable. And if Alabama would have lost the game

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with a relatively close game, I'm totally in agreement with that.

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But just like last year when SMU was getting boat

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raced by Clemson, it was all over Twitter. People were

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ready to drop SMU off of the play out of

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the playoffs. Okay, they made a furious comeback lost by

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a field goal. It kind of changed the narrative. That

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didn't happen yesterday. Alabama was blown out. They were blown out,

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and yes, they beat Georgia on the road. That was

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earlier in That was earlier in the season. If they

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were a playoff caliber team, you could argue that they were,

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and they played great during a four or five game

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stretch in the middle of the year. But this is

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also a team that lost to Florida State. We know

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Florida State well, they've won three ACC games in two years,

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and Alabama lost by two touchdowns to them. And people

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will say, well, Alabama's not you know, they're not a

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They're a different team now than when they lost. They

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looked exactly the same to me. They might have gotten

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better in the middle part of the season, but they

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ended up being the same team that couldn't run the

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ball against four to State, couldn't run the ball against Georgia.

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And if I'm Notre Dame who got left out of

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the playoff, here's the problem. Notre Dame is spending a

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whole lot of time complaining about the ACC and Miami, well,

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Miami beat for Notre Dame. There's no argument there none.

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I don't care how many metrics or whatever you want

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to produce. The first tiebreaker is head to head, and

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Notre Dame lost. The real gripe should be against Alabama,

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who should not be in the field. I'm sorry, that

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is not a playoff team and they shouldn't have been

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in the field, and the committee shoehorned them in, just

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like they've done a number of times in the past.

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No program in college football has given more benefit of

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the doubt than Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Ad On a seconds said, does Notre Dame get in

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if they're part of the ACC, because I think they

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might if they're if they're part of the ACC. Yeah,

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if they're part of the ACC, rather than being independent

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and and bitching about the ACC, they have this sory.

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If I've said, I've got I'm unusually snarky tonname. They

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played with this one foot in the door approach, or

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they like to play in the playground and the other sports,

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but they're out here on their own in football. This

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is perhaps the first year. Yeah, that's a great point.

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I mean others have said it. You know, Notre Dame

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is another program that's gotten a lot of benefit of

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the doubt, and this is one of the first times

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it didn't work out for him. If they were in

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the ACC and they largely played an ACC schedule, they're

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in the ACC championship most likely, and they're probably gonna

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they probably a ninety chance that they're in the playoffs

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if they're in the ACC. Yeah, we had worked against

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him this time. And and you know, it's like you said,

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even with Miami, I mean, when you lose games, you

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take the decision, you put the decision in the hands

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of the committee. And we all know that what happened

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to Florida State two years ago was the snub by

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which all snubs are compared to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand Notre Dame. It's like, well, for

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six weeks we were ahead of Miami, and then on

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the final day you flipped us. And that you know,

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they're crying injustice.

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Speaker 4: This that.

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Speaker 1: We'll go back two years ago when Florida State was

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in the playoff, won their championship by double digits over

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a top fifteen Louisville team and dropped out of the playoff. Now, yeah,

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this pales in comparison to that. But the fact of

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the matter is Notre Dame should have been in the playoff.

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Miami should have been in Alabama should have been the

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team that left was left out. That's what I I think,

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That's what I feel like should have happened. It didn't.

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But without a question, Miami should have been in. You know,

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if you're comparing Miami and Notre Dame, absolutely no question.

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I watched that game back in August, and Notre Dame

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running game was completely controlled by Miami. Miami was the

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better team that night, and it was lucky it came

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down to a field goal. And then it gets back

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to you Kastrobel's, Mario Cristobaul's game management. He went really

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conservative in that game in the last ten minutes and

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let Notre Dame back into it. But making a mistake.

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Miami was a considerably better team than Notre Dame on

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that day. And I think if they played today, not

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in October, but if they played again today, I would

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take Miami.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, Jeff, fair enough. I ranted quite a bit

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of back, but it is good that they're in, all right, Jeff,

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who's winning Navy or Army? You got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This game, You know, this is one of the great

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traditions in college football, and it always seems like this

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game comes down to a field goal. But Navy's got

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a pretty stout team this year. They were nine and two.

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They knocked off the G five darling that everyone was

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looking at earlier in the year South Florida. So I mean,

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going into it, I mean, I feel like Navy is

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the better team, but it just has a way this

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matchup of turning into a twenty one to seventeen type game.

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And I think it's going to be that way again

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with Navy coming out on top.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right. But can I also say, I

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mean Navy also beat Memphis. I mean, this is not

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like a chopped liver sort of team, right, I mean

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they sure they lost to Notre Dame, Sure they lost

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in North Texas, but North Texas, of course was in

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the AAC championship game. Maybe it was pretty damn good

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this year.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're definitely good. Absolutely, this is a team

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I think that I mean. And the game's in Baltimore.

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It's actually in Baltimore. All that place is gonna be packed, Jeff.

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They had all the all that they're sating. They're gonna

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send all the all, all the midshipmen from Annapolis are

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gonna go over there, Jeff, And that place stadium was

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just gonna be full of white ch white white uniforms.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be crazy. Jeff.

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Speaker 3: I work along a couple Navy pre people in my

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office and they're just like so excited for the game.

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Speaker 2: Jeff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's kind of fun to see, you know.

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I'm sure we'll hear some banter all this week in

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the office and it's kind of cool. And I'm looking

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forward to that game, and I think that I think

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a lot a lot of people in the country always

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look forward to that game.

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Speaker 2: So Jeff, you're up, buddy.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna get this question out

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of where you Matthew, because this is your area of expertise,

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you know, Upsett City, NDSU taking the loss, really stunning

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loss to Illinois State. What are your thoughts and then

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give it give us your your feeling on the SCS

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playoff pick.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So here's the thing, right, Like the Fargo Dome was

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not sold out for this game. I think a lot

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of people in Fargo are kind of taking stuff for

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granted because issue has been so good and that game

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should have been sold out. That said, you're going to

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become ready to play every week, and the Missouri Valley

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has become a lot I would say, a lot like

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the SEC. I mean, there were seven Missouri Valley football

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teams that made the fc FCS field this year, Jeff,

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and six of them then made it to the second round,

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which is kind of amazing if you think about it, right,

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I mean, that means that there were seven left in

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that round to sixteen. So you go to the round

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of the round of of the quarters, right, and you

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still see you know, you see some you know they're

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they're eighteen. They're eight teams left here. Right, you see

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Illinois State taking on UC Davis. That's on the road.

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You've got Montana State taken on Steven F.

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Speaker 2: Austin.

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Speaker 3: That game is up in. That game is up in

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uh In Bozeman, Montana. Then you've got South Dakota taking

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on Montana, and you take Villanova going on the road

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to Tarleton Tarleton State. In most cases, Jeff, I'm probably

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you know, Illinois State's coming in there, they're not even seated,

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and they're going on the road to U SEE Davis.

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Speaker 2: They have nothing to lose going on there.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I feel like the Missouri Valley has

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been as good as anybody. Their teams have been as

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good as anybody's this year, and you see Davis better

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be worried. They better take Illinois State seriously because they

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put Illinois. I think you've watched it as you several times, Jeff.

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I mean, in order to beat the champion, you gotta

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be like the champion. That means you've got to have

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a strong offensive and defensive line. You just got to

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win up front.

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Speaker 2: And the Illinois State's been doing that right, and so

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do I am? I am?

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Speaker 3: I do I feel like they can get the upset

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up there at UC Davis. Probably not. I would be surprised,

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but I would I would be surprised if they won.

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But I think it's in the picture for the for

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them to win out there. Montana State takes on Steven

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f Austin. Montana State has this coach. His name is

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Brent Vegan. He played at Central Valley High School in

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North Dakota, and he was a senior at the time.

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He is my sister's age and my sister was actually

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a cheerleader for an opposing high school for the opposing

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high school team when they played. When when she was

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a cheerleader on the sideline for the opposing team that

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he was on. He was Brent Vegan. If you know him,

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he's six he's six'. Five but when he played At Central,

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valley he was a three sport. Athlete he played, football

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he played boys, basketball and he played. Track and he

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had fifteen hundred points as a small forward at sixty.

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Speaker 2: Five two thirty.

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Speaker 3: Five AND i think he honestly could have played two

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sports if he wanted to in, college, right because you're

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if you're that, big sometimes you can play small forward

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because you just take up a lot of. Space but

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he was brought in as a linebacker AT indysu and

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then he ended up, coaching and now he's coaching At

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Montana state with the same sort of game plan THAT

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indysu had had with this pro you, know the pro

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style quarterback, right the just vicious offensive and defensive. Lines

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AND i think right, now IF i had to pick right,

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NOW i Take Montana state as my. Favorite the upset

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that could happen this weekend is in the lower end

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of the lower end of the bracket there With South

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dakota going To. Mindanna montana better be ready to Play

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South dakota because last Week.

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Speaker 2: Mercers And.

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Speaker 3: Georgia If i'm not, mistaken, Right Jeff Mercier College Mercer

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university is that. Right South dakota went down there and

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won forty seven to, nothing and they all they they

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shut down everything down. There Now i'll be fair. Here

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montana is a different. Team they were the three seeds

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in the overall. Bracket they've got a guy who was

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what their head coach was at N lv at UN

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lb and then came back To. Montana you, know SO I,

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i you, KNOW i expect that to be a tough,

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game BUT i wouldn't BE i actually think Think South

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dakota can go in there. Win so then you've got

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that last game there And Arleton state takes On, villanova

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AND i Think, TARLTON i Think Tarleton, State, jeff is

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one of those teams that's basically waiting a year or

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two to go up TO fbs or something like, that

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because it seems to me like every team In texas does.

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That and you've got so much access to talent In

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texas that you can get all your players. There so

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that's kind of HOW i see it going. FORWARD i

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Think South dakota has a very good chance to. WIN

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i THINK i Think Carlton state will win PROBABLY Uc

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davis And Montana, state BUT i Think Montana state Is,

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honestly they're the best. TEAM i think they're the best team,

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left AND i think they're gonna. WIN i think they're

476
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:24,839
gonna win THE fcs. Titles so that is my. Take so, Now,

477
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,720
jeff we're moving on TO Acc. Menzoop this is gonna

478
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,519
be our open microphone. Here there's lots of good news stories,

479
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,480
here And i'm gonna let you cook, Here. Jeff this

480
00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:38,079
is our first open microphone, topic And i'm gonna feel

481
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:40,039
in as, Needed but we have a lot of a

482
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:42,240
lot of fucking a lot of really good stories about.

483
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:51,079
Speaker 1: A, yeah you you are absolutely, Right. Matthew you, Know

484
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:54,240
i'm not Really i'm not ready to say if this

485
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:59,079
is like a VINTAGE acc, year but it is absolutely

486
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:04,079
ere of feudable that the league is considerably better than

487
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:10,039
it has been the last couple of years if we started.

488
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:13,480
GOING i, MEAN i think right now you can already

489
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:17,640
say you can feel pretty comfortable of five teams already

490
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,720
looking like locks for THE ncaa, tournament and there's three

491
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,559
or four more that are starting to build resumes that

492
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,119
are going to be hard To. Deny so you're not

493
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,400
going to have the problem that we've had the last

494
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,079
couple of years where you, know you could only pick

495
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,240
up quality wins in THE acc if you Beat duke

496
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,200
or maybe one other. Team there's going to be multiple

497
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:43,839
opportunities for teams to pick UP q one wins in THE.

498
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Acc if you're looking across the, COUNTRY i, MEAN i

499
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,599
would still say The big twelve probably has an edge

500
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,480
as a basketball league this. YEAR i, mean they've got

501
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:59,400
some really strong teams out. There arizona is, Fantastic Iowa

502
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,240
state just destroyed Per. DUE i might give them the

503
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:06,559
edge on, Depth but after, THAT i think THE acc

504
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:10,039
And big ten are running neck and. Neck there's as number,

505
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:13,000
two and they're DEFINITELY i know THE acc didn't win

506
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:19,160
THE ACC Sec, challenge BUT i WOULD i would put

507
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,799
THE acc ahead of THE sec. Overall THE sec is

508
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,319
just taking too many losses across the, board and THE

509
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:30,119
acc is definitely better at the. Top let's start With.

510
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,880
Duke they went on the road and won At Michigan,

511
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,279
state WHO i think is a legit top or six

512
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,599
or seven, Team and you, know people keep, saying, oh

513
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,640
and you, Know duke is just Boozer they're better than

514
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,720
they were last year in my, opinion because last year

515
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:49,119
With Cooper, flag it was like end of game. Situation you,

516
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,240
know here's the, Ball Cooper, flag do something create and you,

517
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:57,160
know didn't play well at the. Ends the talented as they,

518
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,920
were they were not that good at the end of

519
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,480
games against quality teams in close, matchups and and they're

520
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:07,119
finding ways to. Win they knocked Off florida And Michigan

521
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,599
STATE uh this, week and that road win super. Impressive

522
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,640
Duke duke is one of the best teams in college.

523
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:18,359
Basketball they're they're right up there With arizona And Michigan

524
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,200
louisville going on the road AND i think it was

525
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,440
a neutral side. Game Beating Indiana North carolina looked really.

526
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,119
Impressive and they still don't Have Seth. Tremble but you

527
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,160
know they go and take care Of georgetown and win

528
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,000
At reel In. Kentucky, Wow kentucky is a mess right.

529
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:42,720
Now you KNOW smu, today you, know knocked off a

530
00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:45,759
really Solid TEXAS a AND m team at a neutral

531
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:50,079
side in. Overtime Cal they picked up a couple of

532
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:53,039
big wins in the past week or, so winning AGAINST U.

533
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: C L.

534
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: A then they knocked Off utah And. Virginia virginia has

535
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:03,039
been really impressive over the Last over the last couple of.

536
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:08,559
Weeks they got double digit wins At texas in THE

537
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:11,440
A C C Sec challenge and dominated that game from

538
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,559
start to, finish and then got another double digit win Over.

539
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,640
Dayton right, NOW i think those are your five teams

540
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:21,680
that they those look LIKE ncaa, Teams AND i have

541
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:24,640
a real hard time seeing any of those teams fall

542
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:27,599
off off of the. Pace and then you get past,

543
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,279
there and this is where there's still a lot of.

544
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:32,440
Depth and these are all teams THAT i think are

545
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,319
going to be. Able you, know there's three or four

546
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,640
more of these are gonna get into the. TOURNAMENT i

547
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,480
really believe That, clemson who already has a win over

548
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:45,079
a very Good georgia, Team Virginia. Tech you, know they

549
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,519
won on their challenge on the road At South. Carolina

550
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:55,319
uh you look At Notre. Dame WHEN i looked at,

551
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,960
you you know they. Won they Beat missouri one on

552
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:02,680
the road AT Tc you this past. WEEK i think

553
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,279
they're gonna Be they're gonna be a big problem to

554
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,160
deal with in the in the. League this, Year miami

555
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,799
has looked good at, Times Wake. FORESTS i, mean they

556
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:15,119
should have Beat. Michigan they Had michigan beat and you,

557
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,880
KNOW i think The deegs are going to be one

558
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,160
of those teams that they. Didn't they didn't get as

559
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,559
many non conference wins as they could, have but they're

560
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:26,279
definitely talented enough to make a run and they and

561
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:30,119
they finally did you, know get one of those conference

562
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,440
games they desperately needed by Beating West. Virginia you, KNOW

563
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:36,279
i was really disappointed in how they played Against oklahoma at.

564
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:39,759
Home but this is still a team that has wins Over.

565
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,160
Memphis West virginia Played michigan And Texas tech to a

566
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,279
one point. Loss SO i, mean if they can get

567
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,359
consistent play from their, team the, talent the talent is.

568
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,880
There and then there's still other teams that are wild.

569
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,160
Cards that's like N C, state who's a talented basketball

570
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,880
team but struggles. Defensively, syracuse you, know might be starting

571
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,880
to find themselves after they knocked Off. Tennessee stanford has

572
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,880
had some good, moments though they took a kind of

573
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,360
a bad loss today against UNLV. Uh so the league

574
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,000
has a lot of. Depth the only three teams there's

575
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,320
only three teams in the league THAT i, think you,

576
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,840
KNOW i have virtually no chance to make any kind

577
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,679
of run because they're just bad basketball. Teams and That's Georgia,

578
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,039
Tech Boston college And pitt and and And pitt knocked

579
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,519
Off Ohio state when they were. Undefeated BUT i think

580
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:35,719
by and, large you, know those three teams that are

581
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,960
going to be bringing up the rear In Florida state

582
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:43,519
just a little bit. Ahead BUT i, REALLY i know

583
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,280
you were positive on THE acc even early, on AND

584
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,719
i wanted to see some of the, games.

585
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 5: SO i THINK i was very.

586
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:50,679
Speaker 2: Positive.

587
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 5: JEFF i saw you were you, were you were really.

588
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,360
POSITIVE i saw what was going.

589
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,199
Speaker 3: On why you know THAT i ONCE i saw the

590
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,480
teams in The commonwealth Of virginia were getting, BETTER i

591
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:05,760
knew the whole picture would get.

592
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: Better, Yeah AND i MEAN i had to tell YOU

593
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:10,199
i was like a step behind you. THERE i wasn't

594
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,199
ready quite to jump on UNTIL i started seeing the

595
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,239
results start to come. Through and and the results have

596
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,000
started to come.

597
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:21,639
Speaker 5: THROUGH i, MEAN i MEAN i Saw Virginia tech When Virginia.

598
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: TECH i, mean you even saw this Past, saturday Past, saturday, Right,

599
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,320
Jeff do you know That Virginia tech has had ninety

600
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,159
points of bench scoring in like half of its last eight. Games,

601
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:41,559
YEAH i THINK i saw that On that's, crazy, RIGHT i,

602
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,519
mean who DOES i haven't seen. THAT i don't know

603
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:48,000
If i've ever seen that At. TECH i, mean it feels.

604
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:50,920
Crazy it feels crazy to. ME i was there watching

605
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,679
The Saint joe's game and they had thirty seven points

606
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,000
of bench scoring that. Night they had thirty Against South.

607
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:02,239
Carolina they had thirty five Against George. Mason George mason

608
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,239
is pretty good. Too that was a big win for The, hokies,

609
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,360
right that one at. Home George mason had come in there,

610
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,079
undefeated and it's pretty you, know it's and. There you

611
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:12,559
know a lot of people had. THAT i Think i've

612
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,320
seen them in the field in mock, brackets, Right so

613
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,440
that's that may turn out to be a you, know

614
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,679
a quad one sort of win For Virginia. Tech so

615
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,400
there's been some good, opportunity good opportunities. THERE i, MEAN

616
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,719
I i'm not ready TO i, MEAN i actually feel

617
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,880
like THE acc could get nine. Teams, Jeff i'm actually

618
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:36,199
sitting on. That, YEAH i THINK i think over, optimistic

619
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,679
but for, sure go. Ahead i'm, Sorry, NO I i.

620
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,599
Speaker 1: THINK i think YOU'RE i think you're right. ON i

621
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,800
think THE acc is going to be somewhere between eight

622
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,719
and eleven. Bids you, know there's still a whole month

623
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,360
of non conference basketball to go and and some more

624
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,079
opportunities for teams before they get into conference. Play BUT

625
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,719
i mean when you look At, DUKE, Smu, Louisville North,

626
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,599
carolina And virginia and you already see five teams that

627
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:10,440
look like they're gonna make THE NCAAs, TODAY i mean

628
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:13,920
you know that there's probably three or four more that

629
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:16,079
are going to have the. Resume AND i MEAN i

630
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:18,840
would almost Put clemson already in that. CATEGORY i, mean

631
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,679
they won one of the pre conference tournaments and if

632
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,840
they could steal a, win they got to PLAY byu

633
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,400
And Madison Square garden and they were on the road

634
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,800
At alabama and led very late in that game Against.

635
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:36,000
ALABAMA i, Mean i'm really close to saying there's already.

636
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:39,480
Six so we know that a couple more teams are

637
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:41,480
going to come out of the, woodwork like A Virginia

638
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:45,199
tech or A miami Or Notre. Dame and the league

639
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,920
is this is gonna be the BEST acc basketball we've

640
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,639
seen in quite a few, years maybe since twenty, nineteen

641
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,519
since PRE, covid it's been a long. Time this is

642
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:58,639
Deeply it absolutely.

643
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: Is it absolutely, is and you know all.

644
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: So you probably will know this better than, me but

645
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,440
from The clemson standpoint or from The Georgia tech. Standpoint But,

646
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:11,039
Jeff i've looked on the seat maps and there's maybe

647
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,800
fifty tickets left for the entire, year for the ENTIRE

648
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,920
acc season At Virginia. Tech that's pretty crazy on the, maps.

649
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 5: On the seating. Maps so people are ready for people

650
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,920
are ready for.

651
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:27,039
Speaker 3: It you. Should you're gonna get Some you're gonna get

652
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,320
some teams that are gonna come Into castle and they're

653
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:32,239
they're gonna hear a, loud loud. Environment AND i probably

654
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,440
expect the same thing A Little.

655
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: John, YEAH i Think Little john is gonna have a

656
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,079
lot of. EXCITEMENT i hate to say it About Georgia,

657
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:44,199
tech BUT i think for most games this, year it's

658
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,880
gonna be a. Morgue it's gonna look like A morgan.

659
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,519
Speaker 5: There there's not like THE Bc morgue though that's a special.

660
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: MORGUE i THINK i joked ON i THINK i joked

661
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,639
On twitter once that it can be so quiet At

662
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,400
Boston college that like the players have to generate their

663
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,880
own enthusiasm and there because you can hear a pin,

664
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,199
drop you can hear a pin drop in that, place

665
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,519
and you have to you have you have to generate

666
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,800
your own, enthusiasm otherwise you can fall as fall. ASLEEP

667
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,119
i THINK i call it a hypnosis, zone a hypnosis

668
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:23,119
zone at the at the at THE conti Forrum and,

669
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:31,039
anyway here we, go, buddy open microphone, Time jeff number.

670
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:34,039
Speaker 5: TWO i, mean what do you? Got what do you?

671
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:35,000
Got what do you got for?

672
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:35,159
Speaker 2: Me?

673
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,199
Speaker 3: Jeff Because i'm telling YOU i kept saying it, before

674
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000
don't you know when you're when your, Games, miami take

675
00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:44,159
it out of the take it out of the community's.

676
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,480
Decision twenty one Years NO. Acc what's going, On, jeff

677
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,440
no A cc.

678
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: Title, Well i'm gonna, Say i'm saying this Year miami

679
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,480
did The miami did their. Part they're the they're the

680
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:02,679
LONE acc in the in the in the, playoffs so

681
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,320
we're gonna give them credit for getting into the. Playoffs but,

682
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:09,519
yeah they controlled they they had the opportunity to control

683
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:14,559
their own. Destiny, yeah and then it almost got away from.

684
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:17,559
Them but thankfully the committee made the the right. Decision

685
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,519
so WHEN i get into the open, mic, Uh i'm,

686
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,559
Gonna i'm. Gonna you, KNOW i kind of already mentioned this.

687
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:29,519
Before Is Notre? DAME i mean? Goodn't it's? Gracious just

688
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:36,280
stop your. Whining you, know you could definitely make the point, about, Hey,

689
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,519
miami you left it up in the committee's. Hands it

690
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:41,400
almost didn't work out, Well Notre. Dame you did leave

691
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,360
it up in the hands of, committee and you lost

692
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,559
the game on the football. Field so take take your

693
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:49,360
gripe up With. Alabama but but stop worrying about THE

694
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,719
acc and And. Miami you went on the field you got. Dominated,

695
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:57,960
No i'll take that. Back it wasn't. Domination it was

696
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,280
a field goal. Game BUT i, mean anyone that watch

697
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,880
that game would come away think In miami was the better.

698
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,400
Team you, know you won a lot of games after,

699
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:10,760
that but you lost the two best teams you. Played

700
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,039
you lost The TEXAS a AND m and you lost To.

701
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:16,559
Miami one was ranked, seven one was ranked. Ten and

702
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:18,480
where does that put you that you put it in

703
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:20,920
the hands of the. Committee you Had TEXAS a AND

704
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:23,639
m at, home and your defense couldn't make a stop

705
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,039
the entire time and you mishandled an extra point and

706
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,239
you know you were in The National championship game last

707
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,800
year and you know next year you get to you

708
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,920
get to do it. Again but for this, year just you,

709
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,519
know stop stop the. Whining and if you got the,

710
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:49,960
whining you, know you, know go after THE. Sec you

711
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,679
want to complain about the. Ass there's even some people

712
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,639
printed like what's in this? Partnership you, KNOW i don't

713
00:41:56,679 --> 00:42:00,679
know if if if there was a partnership with The

714
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,360
big ten or THE, sec if we're even having this.

715
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:06,679
DISCUSSION i, mean Does Notre dame go ten and two

716
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,199
if they're playing you, know if they Got georgia and

717
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,159
and you know all The Lane kiff and Ole miss

718
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:17,079
team on the schedule and instead Of. Syracuse you, KNOW i,

719
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,480
DON'T i don't. THINK i don't think, so you, know

720
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,039
AND i think they got. SHAFTED i, DO i really.

721
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:26,599
Do BUT i went through that before with what what

722
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,239
what they said About? Alabama when when you don't win

723
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,960
your games and you, say and this is, true even

724
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:35,280
what you said About. Miami this is not like a

725
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,119
few when it was one versus two and years ago

726
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,920
when an Undefeated auburn team got left out of playing

727
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,760
for the national. Championship you, know we're talking about teams

728
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,039
with two and three losses getting left. Out when you

729
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:52,519
lose that many, games you've put it in the hands

730
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:56,239
of the committees and you had your opportunity to play

731
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,400
your way in and you. DIDN'T i, mean the only

732
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:04,679
TEAM i think that really has a super legitimate gripe

733
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,760
over the last few years Was Florida, state who didn't

734
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,440
lose a. Game and LIKE i said, before that's the

735
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:13,119
snub that all snubs will, be you, know compared. Against

736
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,880
so you, Know Notre. Dame stop your. Whining you already

737
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,679
opted out of A, bowl which was you, know really.

738
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:25,119
Petty you know that was extremely petty to opt out

739
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:27,280
of The bowl. Game but you know that's what you.

740
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,960
Did you know, what just get better for next year

741
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,079
and maybe you won't have to worry about the committee

742
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:34,639
taking it in your. Hands you get you get to

743
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:37,239
Play miami at. HOME i think next, year maybe maybe

744
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:37,920
beat them.

745
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 5: Next.

746
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: Year, Jeff, YEAH i don't think Any you, know you're

747
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,639
you're totally, Right. Matthew if they'd have been in THE

748
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,840
acc they'd probably be in the. Playoff but that's one

749
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,519
THING i do have some respect About Notre. DAME i,

750
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:59,039
mean they're going to hold onto that. INDEPENDENCE i think

751
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:03,119
they would almost drop football before they joined a. CONFERENCE i,

752
00:44:03,159 --> 00:44:05,400
mean they're gonna they're gonna stick to their guns on that. One.

753
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:06,199
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

754
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely we haven't had a chance to talk about, this

755
00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:11,920
so this will be our closing part of the open. Microphone,

756
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:16,000
Jeff but, boy what do you think about what's happening

757
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:17,039
In Virginia tech right?

758
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:17,559
Speaker 5: Now wasn't?

759
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: THAT i, mean the the recruiting was kind of, Honestly

760
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:25,519
jeff was. INSANE i didn't expect For Virginia tech was

761
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:27,719
sitting at one hundred and twenty five or something like

762
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,280
that and ended up closing with the twenty second best,

763
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,000
class And James franklin was there for like basically two.

764
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:39,440
Weeks that's pretty, sick, Right that's pretty. Crazy the other

765
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:44,000
thing is that he's bringing Back i'm sure you saw.

766
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:47,760
This it was confirmed today or maybe even last night

767
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,239
or early this. Morning he's bringing. Back he's Bringing Brent

768
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,000
prye in as his defensive, coordinator AND I i think

769
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:56,960
that's kind of cool in a. WAY i, MEAN i

770
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,719
think it shows THAT i mean they got, along they

771
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,000
worked together for. Years there's no bad blood it appears

772
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:03,760
Between Brent pry And Virginia.

773
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,599
Speaker 5: Tech what are your thoughts on all. That i'm just.

774
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: CURIOUS i, Mean James franklin did a fantastic job closing

775
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,000
out that class For Virginia tech and having, it you,

776
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:18,480
know finished really. STRONG i, mean if that's what he

777
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,559
did in two, weeks he's probably pulling in the top

778
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:25,559
fifteen class for next. Year AND i mean everybody thought

779
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:29,800
that observes college football that this was a home run

780
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,960
higher AND i mean the early returns are just as

781
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,199
we we. THOUGHT i think it, is you, know pretty

782
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,719
a pretty neat thing that he's Bringing Brent pry back

783
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,679
To Virginia. Tech and you, know that's good On Virginia

784
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,800
tech to really Give James franklin the flexibility to put

785
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,199
together the staff he wants to put. Together if he

786
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,480
thinks That Brent price is his best option that defensive,

787
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:04,719
coordinator then that's good On Virginia tech to, say, Hey James,

788
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,239
FRANKLIN i know he was our head coach and we

789
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,400
let him, go but if he's willing to take the,

790
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,920
job you just, go you go for. It and you,

791
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,800
Know Brent priye obviously feels comfortable With. Franklin franklin feels

792
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,320
comfortable with. HIM i know they got a long, history you,

793
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,679
know rough season At Virginia. Tech BUT i don't. THINK

794
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,280
i think the good times are not far. OFF i,

795
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,079
mean the guy can. Coach there's no, cloud there's no

796
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:34,639
doubt about.

797
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: It And i'm excited about next. YEAR i, MEAN i

798
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,960
Think Virginia virginia is going to have more wins than

799
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,280
they had this. YEAR i think THEY i, think you,

800
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,519
know some of these FUN i, Know i'm listened to

801
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:50,679
some of my rose colored Glass hokies and they're, saying you,

802
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,920
know eleven and, one, like, YEAH i don't Think Virginia

803
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,480
tech is going to be.

804
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,199
Speaker 5: Eleven and one next.

805
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,679
Speaker 1: YEAR i don't know about that now.

806
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 3: Certainly but they're certainly, good but they're certainly they certainly

807
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,800
have a chance at eight wins next, year seven or eight.

808
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,199
Wins AND i and AND i only say, That, jeff

809
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,639
because wait till the transfer portal opens and who else comes.

810
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:14,559
In he may take half of he may take all

811
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:18,760
Of Penn state's roster except for maybe their, quarterback, right

812
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,119
the one that kind of consistently. Underperformed and you, know

813
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,760
so you know here we, are, RIGHT i, Mean i'm

814
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,559
looking forward to seeing, that you, know seeing what the

815
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:29,199
world looks like with the foot you, know with the

816
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,880
football team that everybody's excited about because it's been man

817
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,400
after THAT odu, Game, JEFF i was, like what the

818
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,199
hell is happening?

819
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,519
Speaker 5: Here right after.

820
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,599
Speaker 3: After seeing The hokies get worked off the worked off

821
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:44,480
the board By Ricky rons, team which just so happened

822
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:47,760
to be his offensive coordinator up in you, Know James,

823
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,039
James James franklin's offensive coordinator up AT, odu right that

824
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:55,119
the one that was Offense. Dight it's all, crazy you,

825
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:56,800
know but a new world we all live, in and

826
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,840
it's pretty you, know it's pretty pretty. Cool SO i

827
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,480
think we think we're going to see certainly some better

828
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,960
football coming out Of. Blacksburg And i'm. Excited i'm excited

829
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,320
about the future and just several fronts And i'm, surprised and, Honestly,

830
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,920
Jeff i'm surprised that we Have babcock got it. RIGHT

831
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,239
i honestly have to give it to, him. RIGHT i,

832
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,440
mean now he probably had some Major i'll be, fair,

833
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:23,079
right who was leading up the, Search Jeff bruce ariots

834
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:27,320
that probably a better person the leads to certainly the search.

835
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,039
Speaker 5: Up probably.

836
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:31,199
Speaker 3: RIGHT i sound terrible saying, this but you, know at

837
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,199
least at least he had some help this, time you,

838
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,519
Know AND i mean you've heard me talk about, It,

839
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:41,199
jeff about investment and about talking to the board of

840
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,079
business and how you need to increase nil For man's,

841
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:47,800
basketball and how you need to increase investment in. Football

842
00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:50,599
he probably got tired of reading My twitter, Comments. Jeff

843
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,360
Now i'm kidding WHEN i say, that of, course But,

844
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:57,360
jeff this is.

845
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: It.

846
00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 3: Man have a great, week and thank you for having

847
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,079
fun with me on The All Sports DISCUSSION acc.

848
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 5: Podcast we'll do it again next.

849
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: Week all, right have a great, Week.

850
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,039
Speaker 5: Matthew all, right take, care, buddy