WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:13.519 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:27.960 Sports Talk seven nine day, now Here's Nick Coffee. 3 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:31.079 Feels like old times, doesn't it. 4 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:37.719 Talking about the NCAA having it out for Louisville, always 5 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.960 trying to stick it to us. We've been here before, 6 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:46.439 haven't we. I don't know if it was fatigue that 7 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:52.880 set in or it was more so just not caring anymore. 8 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:54.960 But I don't remember a moment when that kind of faded, 9 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:58.280 but it did, right, I mean, it was. My guess 10 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:02.880 would be that this year's long thing that was man, 11 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:07.040 the NCAA, they just have it out for Louisville. We're 12 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.680 gonna be the ultimate example of why you should never 13 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.920 cooperate because you get nothing out of it. I don't 14 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:18.359 know if that faded because we did not get an 15 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:22.920 actual punishment as far as like, well, we did the punishment, 16 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.040 the death penalty was essentially given to us. We had 17 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:30.840 so many years of not knowing. Therefore, it did impact 18 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.439 kids wanting to come to Louisville because a lot of 19 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:35.079 them might have said, yeah, for sure, but I don't 20 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:37.200 want to go there if I know for certain that 21 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:40.760 there's no tournament because they're gonna get I mean, yet 22 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.439 people like Pat Forty who write at the time, he 23 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:46.000 was writing for Yahoo nas it's pores illustrated that we're 24 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.359 you know, basically saying Louis's gonna get the death penalty. 25 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:50.040 I mean, you had somebody who worked for our own 26 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:52.200 paper in town, the Courier Journal, when Chris Mack was here, 27 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:54.439 claiming Louisville was going to get the death penalty, when 28 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:56.319 that wasn't realistic in any way. The death penalty is 29 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:58.400 not a punishment as far as what it actually is. 30 00:01:58.439 --> 00:01:59.159 It's not realistic. 31 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:03.480 It's not there are TV contracts with these networks based 32 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:05.680 off your conference that like you can't just have say 33 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:08.400 a team doesn't get to play on TV like that, 34 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.680 that wouldn't happen. So I don't know if it was 35 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:14.319 because in the end, whenever we went through the what 36 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:18.039 was it the I RP process, right that they just decided, 37 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.759 you know, they're they're moving on from it. I don't 38 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:24.560 know if that led to us just feeling okay, all right, 39 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:26.960 well they didn't end up giving us a postseason ban, 40 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:28.840 or if it was more so we were already dead 41 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:32.039 right because things fell apart so bad and Max last year, 42 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:33.199 and then the Kenny Payne. 43 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.680 Era was death. Quite literally, it killed us, and. 44 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:40.000 We thankfully had somebody named Pat Kelsey bring us back 45 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.280 to life. But I mean it used to just be 46 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:46.879 a constant conversation within shows like this every day about 47 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:47.719 all the NCAA. 48 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:48.599 The hell with them? 49 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:50.800 You know, we got to keep fighting to get the 50 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:55.159 banner back there. They're crazy, and I mean I don't 51 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:59.639 I'm not saying anybody who had that mindset and shared 52 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:03.319 those thought I'm not saying they're wrong, but man, I 53 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:05.439 just I think I just had fatigue. And then again, 54 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.479 like when you were really, really in a bad place, 55 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:11.759 I mean you're sitting here thinking, like, you know, maybe 56 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:13.599 maybe it would be nice because then, you know, if 57 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.360 we already knew we were dealt a year with no 58 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:20.719 postseason for sure, then maybe we would, you know, not 59 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.080 be as sad with the loss as that come. But 60 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.199 either way, the reason I'm bringing all this up is 61 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:32.039 because the NCAA has denied Ali Khalifa's request for an 62 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:34.719 extension on his five year clock. And I haven't heard 63 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.439 the five year clock thing mentioned in a long time 64 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:43.120 because it just doesn't seem to be followed in any 65 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:48.240 way consistently. I mean, maybe there are examples of players 66 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:53.000 that have been injured like he was and then red 67 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:57.000 shirted to where they only played three years, but it 68 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.039 was in a five year window, so therefore they're done. 69 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:01.039 Like I'm sure there are example. There are so many 70 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.800 college athletes out there that you know, none of us 71 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:05.759 have never heard of, don't know anything about, because you know, 72 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:10.680 there's just that many programs. But Ali Khalifa is somebody 73 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:16.439 that I just cannot imagine anybody reviewing his situation and 74 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.079 like I'm surprised to he even had to like put 75 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:21.839 in a waiver, Like it wouldn't shock me if if 76 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:24.639 Ali and his crew, you know U of L Basketball, 77 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:27.639 they're just trying to be as compliant as possible because 78 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:29.879 that's what you're supposed to do, and like maybe they 79 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.560 put it on the radar, like if he just play, 80 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.560 if he just played next year without any kind of request. 81 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:38.160 Part of me says, no way that would ever happen. 82 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.439 But like he's only played three years, and I bet 83 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:44.240 there's many people out there right now that follow college athletes, 84 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:48.639 college follow college sports more than just casually that didn't 85 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:50.839 even realize that was still a thing because you know, 86 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:53.279 I many guys are playing college sports that have been 87 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:55.959 in college for longer than five years. I mean, it's 88 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:58.399 not everybody, but man, it's it's no longer a surprise 89 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:00.240 when you turn on your TV to watch a college 90 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.360 football or a college basketball game and you got somebody 91 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:06.800 out there that's in a fifth, sixth, seventh year. I mean, 92 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:09.279 our quarterback who just played here one year, he's going 93 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:10.959 to be twenty five years old. 94 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:12.800 In fact, I think he might. Is he twenty four 95 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:13.800 or twenty five? I think he might. 96 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:15.959 Is he twenty five? That sounds crazy, but I don't know. 97 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.879 Tyler Schuck might be twenty five. He's either twenty four 98 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:19.480 or twenty five. 99 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:20.160 Either way. 100 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:23.720 Ali Khalifa isn't just trying to, you know, find a 101 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:26.600 loop Pohl to manipulate the system. This dude showed up 102 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.680 at Charlotte in two thousand and twenty and twenty one, 103 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:35.079 which of course was the first year of his college career. 104 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:36.279 He did not play. 105 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:37.079 He red shirted. 106 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:40.600 I don't know the specifics as far as what he 107 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:43.800 red shirted for, but it was not medical. But you're 108 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.839 entitled to multiple different reags like you're entitled to red 109 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:51.439 shirt for great reasons you're entiled. You know, you're entitled 110 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:54.600 to red shirt for you know, it's probably not listed 111 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:57.480 as because of grades. But anyways, that first year that 112 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.279 he showed up at Charlotte and did not play, that's 113 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:04.240 a free year for everybody in college sports. That's why 114 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:07.000 a lot of guys got the fifth year right, because. 115 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:10.759 That didn't count. It was a free year for everybody. 116 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:15.639 Well, there are guys who played in that season that 117 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.439 are still playing college basketball this upcoming season. He didn't 118 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:22.399 play red shirt it played two years then at Charlotte, 119 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:25.279 then one at BYU, did not play this past year, 120 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:32.199 so he's only played three years. And with where college 121 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:37.120 athletics is right now, no real. I mean again, maybe 122 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.279 this is just karma for me saying the NC DOUBLEA 123 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:42.879 seems as powerless as they've ever been this day and age, 124 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:45.920 in the last you know, eighteen months, two years, and 125 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.720 yet this is how they do, in fact use some 126 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:49.879 power by claiming that he's in fact not going. 127 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:53.360 To be eligible to play. So they're going to appeal it, and. 128 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.600 I'm holding out hope, But can you really like just 129 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.600 expect the NC double E to make the obvious correct decision. 130 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:02.399 I don't know if we can. 131 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.439 The good thing is is they're appealing and he's also 132 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:09.079 hired a lawyer, and I don't know if I mean, 133 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:12.160 I feel like there will be countless examples that can 134 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:17.079 be used in court by your lawyer that will have 135 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.560 a judge tell the NC DOUBLEA. 136 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:20.560 Yeah, you can't. 137 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:23.680 You cannot claim that this guy is not entitled to 138 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:27.600 another year of college athletics when you've got countless examples 139 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.480 of players that didn't like it'd be different if he played. 140 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.439 He did not play a second for two years of college, 141 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:36.879 one because of an injury where he had surgery, had 142 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:40.199 to completely rehab an injury, change his body, which he's 143 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:43.079 done that and the other again, like I don't know, 144 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:45.399 I don't know why I didn't play, but like that 145 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:48.720 should matter. It's clearly an age thing. You got guys 146 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:53.920 playing college sports that are damnure thirty. So I hope 147 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:56.800 they get it worked out. But and what gives like 148 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:59.439 in a previous world prior to the NC DOUBLEA just 149 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.399 getting bit over in court seemingly every day for the 150 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:04.720 last two years, I would have just said, you know, 151 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:06.319 they're going to do what they do and there's nobody 152 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:07.920 that's going to hold them accountable. But we're now in 153 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.279 a new world where people hire lawyers and the NCAA 154 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.040 is held accountable and they're told you don't have you 155 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:17.000 don't have a right to do that. You can't just 156 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:22.959 decide because we said so, this guy can't play. And 157 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.800 for a while there wasn't that process of taking it 158 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:28.720 to court and having the legal battle. I mean, I'm 159 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:32.240 sure that did happen from time to time, but I'm 160 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:34.559 glad that that did start happening because now you you know, 161 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:37.799 now things that were clearly just wrong can you know, 162 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.159 can be made right. It's a process you don't want 163 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:42.879 to have to go through, but that's what that's what 164 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:44.799 that's what gives me hope that he'll be able to 165 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:47.399 get this thing figured out. And the example I used earlier, 166 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.480 and the only I'm only using this as an example 167 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.759 because I mean, it's the only player off top I 168 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:57.200 could think of that I know started his college career 169 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:01.080 the same year that Ali Khalifa did. And that's Jay Trayer, Louisville, 170 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:04.720 former Louisville player who started his career in the freebie 171 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:09.240 year that didn't count for anybody, but he played as 172 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.440 a freshman. It was Max. It was max first year. 173 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:14.759 I'm sorry, No, no, no, no, it was Maxed. It was 174 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.799 Max year with I guess his last full season. It 175 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.360 was with car League DJ those guys. JJ was a 176 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.240 freshman that year and then he played next year that 177 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.639 was the Mac and Pegee year. JJ played, and then 178 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.120 the year after that he played for Kenny Payne many games, 179 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:36.519 and then the next year he red shirted but played 180 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.000 in like ten maybe I think it was eight games actually, 181 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.159 so he played but got hurt and didn't play in 182 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.159 enough games to where he got the medical red shirt. Well, 183 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:45.000 then he transferred to Paul that's where he played this 184 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.559 past year. Well, he has another year of eligibility. He's 185 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:49.519 playing at Murray State. So this is somebody that has 186 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:54.919 actually played to an extent in five years of college basketball. 187 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:57.399 Now he's getting a six year to play. And trust me, 188 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.200 this is I want to be clear, this is not 189 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:05.000 a JJ shouldn't be eligible, but it's just if he is. Rightfully, so, 190 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:07.759 why would Ali Khalifa not be eligible? 191 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.519 Make it make sense? You can't. 192 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:13.919 Now the NCAA's never made sense seemingly as far as 193 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:19.080 on a consistent basis, But now like you can have 194 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:21.840 a little bit of belief that this process through the 195 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:24.799 appeal and an attorney will get it corrected, because again, 196 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.399 there are plenty of guys that as much as you know, 197 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:30.039 we love to the NCAA is an easy punching bag, 198 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:32.639 right because for us, obviously, given the fact that you know, 199 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:37.080 we seemingly got no help from punishing ourselves, and they 200 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.279 just viewed what went on at Minority Hall without any 201 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.480 following of any of their actual guidelines and how they 202 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:46.600 go about punishing people. What it came down to is 203 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.240 they can't put a monetary value on an alleged sex act. 204 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.320 So they just said, look, take your medicine the nature 205 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.240 of what went on, like you're lucky, we don't close 206 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:58.200 you down. Like that's the way they operated. So, you know, 207 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:00.519 look kind of get it now, Like I mean, you 208 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:02.440 really can't put a monetary value on a sex act. 209 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:05.120 But nonetheless, like we've always felt like the NCAA has 210 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:06.399 been out to get us, and we've had issues with 211 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:08.519 the nc double A that really aren't the nualea's fault. 212 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:10.320 It's our on fault, not meaning fans. 213 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.120 But like you know, let's not act like things haven't 214 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:14.519 gone on that should not have gone on here at 215 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:20.120 U of L. But I mean, this just to me 216 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:23.039 seems I mean, I don't know. When I saw the news, 217 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.159 I'm like, that makes no sense, Like this can't be, 218 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:29.080 like in what way would he not be eligible? So 219 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:32.000 we shall see. But look, it'll change a lot for 220 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.440 Louislle if he can't go, because you know you already 221 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.399 have mean your front court would be I mean, let's 222 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.559 put it this way without a new addition, which it 223 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:43.840 sounds like Pat Kelsey is gonna add some guy. I 224 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:45.399 don't know who it is. I have no clue who 225 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:47.399 it may even be. I know there's a couple of 226 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:49.399 foreign players that are on the radar. Maybe that's who 227 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:52.639 could end up coming over. But if you know you 228 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.440 lost James Scott unexpectedly and you know his presence will 229 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.600 be missed, his production, as we've discussed, probably not a 230 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.000 huge issue, but still he's not somebody in any way 231 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:04.600 that I that I think is just okay, who cares 232 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:06.480 he's leaving? And I'm sure Pat Kelsey doesn't think that 233 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:11.080 way either. Well then now Khalifa, his eligibility is in limbo. 234 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:14.879 So Sonny Frew and uh in case in prior man 235 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:19.159 and I guess throw, uh, throw javaon in there as well, 236 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.000 like that's your front court. And I actually like all 237 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:24.519 those pieces, but like that's it. If Khalifa is ineligible, 238 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.200 and of course if they don't add other players, which 239 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.120 I believe they're going to. I just you know, I 240 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:30.720 don't have a lot of info on that. I wish, 241 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:33.240 I wish I did, but I don't. So that's uh, 242 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:39.279 that's where we are. Not a good way for Pat 243 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.320 Kelsey to be celebrating his fiftieth birthday. 244 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:41.519 Now. 245 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:45.200 I imagine he probably knew about this before today, and they, 246 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:47.799 I would hope, feel pretty good about the appeals process. 247 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:49.840 But from when I was told earlier today by somebody 248 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.120 at UL that you know, they they they're going to 249 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:55.519 appeal it, and I guess they're hopeful, but they also 250 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:58.200 know that they have no like there's no timeline. The 251 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.879 NSABA could get to it tomorrow, they could get to 252 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:05.559 it in September. I mean, you just don't know. All 253 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:07.240 we can do is hope. But yes, today is Pat 254 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:11.759 Kelsey's fiftieth birthday. Happy birthday to Pat Kelsey. And uh 255 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:15.240 I mentioned earlier that like I'd never even have ever 256 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:19.039 thought about his age. I just assumed he didn't age 257 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:21.200 because you know, he's a he doesn't sleep, he's a 258 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:22.159 he's a maniac. 259 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:23.200 And I mean that in a good way. 260 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:27.759 A maniac full of positive energy, good vibes, and you know, 261 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:31.120 hell of a basketball coach. But if you'd told me 262 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.919 he turned forty five or forty six today, I would 263 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:34.440 have believed it. 264 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:35.399 But he's fifty. 265 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.320 And when I mentioned that earlier, there were some texts 266 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.159 that came in on the Ellen and Federal Credit Union 267 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.039 text line. By the way, it's five O two four 268 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:42.600 three eight ninety seventy three. And if you want to 269 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:45.399 give us a call, you can do that too, five 270 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:49.200 O two five seven one seventy nine hundred. But two 271 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.279 people said that they thought Pat Kelsey would be older, 272 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.759 whereas another person said that they thought Pat Kelsey would 273 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:57.240 have been closer to forty than fifty. I mean, maybe 274 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:59.879 it's just because you know, I might be in love 275 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:01.639 with this guy, because he brought us back to life 276 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:06.200 and he's made me feel better about Louisville basketball than 277 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.200 I ever thought I could after what went on prior 278 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:10.960 to his arrival. But like, nobody thinks he looks older 279 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:14.679 than fifty, right, Like maybe I'm gassing my guy up 280 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:17.240 a little bit as far as like looking young. But 281 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:19.639 I think if you, you know, you give me a 282 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:24.600 you give me a side by side, like a lineup 283 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.559 if you will of other people turning fifty years old, 284 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:29.720 I would assume that he's going to look on the 285 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:32.600 younger side. In fact, now we've got an interesting thing 286 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:35.039 to do the next segment. Austin and I are going 287 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:38.639 to work together to see who else is celebrating birthdays 288 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.080 today and see if there's anybody else turning fifty good, 289 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:44.039 and then we can find other maybe celebrities, you know, 290 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:47.120 white dudes that are fifty or recently turned fifty. 291 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:47.840 Maybe they turn. 292 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:50.440 Fifty next week or last week, and we'll, you know, 293 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:52.720 we'll see if and we'll try to find some that 294 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.639 are celebrities to the point where we know who they are, 295 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:57.039 like a lot of people would at least know who 296 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:58.960 we're talking about, and then we can go from that. 297 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:01.480 Let's do it so again. Happy birthday, Pat Kelse. He 298 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:03.360 could throw the first pitch at the Reds game today. 299 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:05.919 And I don't follow baseball at all, and certainly don't 300 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.720 follow much about the Reds, but all I've heard in 301 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.840 recent weeks, is that their fans hate their team and 302 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:17.480 that who's the guy who is the real promising young star? 303 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:19.320 What is his name? 304 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.000 Yes, I mean I don't think he's been like bad, 305 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.120 but it does sound as if like maybe he hasn't 306 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:29.159 necessarily elevated as much as people expected. 307 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:31.000 I won Okay, I won't. 308 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:33.480 I won't claim to know that I know anything about 309 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.639 the Reds in their situation, but it just seems like 310 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:39.039 the Reds are, you know, their fans are back to 311 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.360 just being you know, they used to be you know, 312 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.679 they used to know where they stand. But also they 313 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:45.840 would really get excited, which is what it should be. 314 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.559 They were excited this year for Terry Frank. Yeah, but 315 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.240 now like they hate their team. But today they let 316 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:53.559 Pat Kelsey throw out the first pitch and they win 317 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:56.320 seven to one. So like, let's just listen, let's not 318 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:59.240 act like that's just some random coincidence. That's that's the 319 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:02.440 energy you get. I mean, when PK is involved, you 320 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.279 got a better chance of winning. Yeah, I mean he 321 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:06.440 did show up here and say we're gonna win games, 322 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:09.240 and he clearly meant it, and that's you know, that's 323 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:15.679 exactly what happened. So exactly exactly, all right, So the 324 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:21.000 let's see the the Caleb Williams situation real quick. I 325 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:25.559 don't I haven't read the entire ESPN article, but I 326 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:27.240 just feel like this has got to be an awkward 327 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:30.919 situation in Chicago. But maybe not because I think even 328 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:35.120 going into the draft, when it became clear he had 329 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.200 no doubt and he was going to get drafted by Chicago. 330 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.039 I mean, at that point, I think he, you know, 331 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:43.559 Bears fans probably realized and maybe understood why he didn't 332 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.600 want to go there, and they were willing to move on. 333 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:49.240 But the details as far as what Caleb Williams and 334 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:51.120 his family were at least going to try to do 335 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:54.120 or at least thought about doing to avoid going to Chicago, 336 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.080 I mean, if I was a fan of the Bears, 337 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:00.559 I mean I would feel like, first of all, you 338 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.120 should be lucky to be here. Maybe that's not true, 339 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:04.839 but as a fan you might think that. But also 340 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.839 like he's not good, Like he may know and he 341 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:10.960 does get the benefit of the doubt when it comes 342 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:13.359 to just like being the quarterback for the Bears who 343 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:15.359 could make the Bears look good. There's such a mess, right, 344 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.359 But like anybody claiming that he showed a lot of 345 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:23.319 real upside in his rookie season. I don't know where 346 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:23.720 you saw that. 347 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:23.799 Now. 348 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:25.720 Again, it may just be because of how lousy they 349 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:28.079 are as a franchise, and he may end up being 350 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:30.039 really good down the line. But like, if he's not, 351 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:32.119 I'm not going to be totally shocked. But this is 352 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:35.480 from this is an excerpt from ESPN on the whole situation. 353 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:40.640 So there is a book that it's coming out, American Kings, 354 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:43.799 a Biography of the Quarterback. And I don't know if 355 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:48.519 that's a book about a lot of quarterbacks or just 356 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.759 him featured among many other quarterbacks. But I'm reading here 357 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:53.839 from ESPN dot coms This quarterback, Kaye Williams, was so 358 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:56.519 concerned about being picked by the Chicago Bears in twenty 359 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.240 twenty four that he and his family weighed blowing up 360 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:02.160 the entire NFL draft, consulting with lawyers to figure out 361 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:04.920 a way around the league's collective bargaining agreement while considering 362 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:09.000 signing with the United Football League. That again came from 363 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:12.359 the book quote, Chicago is the place quarterbacks go to die. 364 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:16.000 Carl Williams, Caleb's father told Seth Wickersham, author of American 365 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:18.680 King's biography of the quarterback, in the months before the 366 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:20.880 twenty twenty four so this happened, So this was all 367 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:24.880 on record, meaning like for the book, prior to him 368 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:27.079 being drafted. So like, if I was Caleb Williams, I 369 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:29.200 would find a way to like maybe he already has 370 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:31.319 like address this and claim that he's happy to be 371 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:33.559 in Chicago, even if he's lying, Like, I think that 372 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.319 would probably be the best, the best case scenario. 373 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.480 But I need to go to the Vikings. He told 374 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:43.319 his father, that's a quote from this book. Let's do it. 375 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:46.119 His father replied, But both Caleb and Carl knew that 376 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:49.839 a trade to a divisional rival was extremely unlikely. Bears 377 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:52.720 GM Ryan Pols stood firm, telling Williams, we're drafting you 378 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.079 no matter what. That left one opinion to publicly attack 379 00:18:56.119 --> 00:18:58.200 the Bears and the city of Chicago, hoping that it 380 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:00.880 would make the situation untenable, similar to what happened with 381 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.359 Jack and John Elway when they did it in nineteen 382 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:05.960 eighty three with the Baltimore Colts. Here's another quote. He's 383 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:08.720 worried about me taking bullets. Carl Williams told Wickersham of 384 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:11.160 his son, I don't care, don't. I just don't agree 385 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:13.839 with this bleep. You know, I'm more interested in making 386 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:15.480 sure that he can do whatever he wants to do. 387 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:16.160 End quote. 388 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:18.599 But Caleb was concerned that if they did try and 389 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.039 the Bears refuse to trade him, it would make a 390 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:23.759 tough situation worse and the n kayle Williams told Wickersham, 391 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:27.599 I wasn't ready to nuke the city. So it sounds 392 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:30.160 like he had a little bit more awareness of what 393 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:34.319 could potentially happen if they fight this really hard, whereas 394 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:36.119 his dad was like, you know, no, we need to 395 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:37.680 get you to a different franchise. 396 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:40.200 They're in your division. You're a Vikings fan. 397 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:43.480 It's I would ask you, would you rather have kayleb 398 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:47.240 Williams or McCarthy, But like that's impossible to answer, right, 399 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:48.039 Like you just don't know. 400 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:51.640 Yeah, but I mean still take McCarthy. Yeah, but with 401 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.640