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Speaker 2: Feels like old times, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Talking about the NCAA having it out for Louisville, always
Speaker 3: trying to stick it to us. We've been here before,
Speaker 3: haven't we. I don't know if it was fatigue that
Speaker 3: set in or it was more so just not caring anymore.
Speaker 3: But I don't remember a moment when that kind of faded,
Speaker 3: but it did, right, I mean, it was. My guess
Speaker 3: would be that this year's long thing that was man,
Speaker 3: the NCAA, they just have it out for Louisville. We're
Speaker 3: gonna be the ultimate example of why you should never
Speaker 3: cooperate because you get nothing out of it. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that faded because we did not get an
Speaker 3: actual punishment as far as like, well, we did the punishment,
Speaker 3: the death penalty was essentially given to us. We had
Speaker 3: so many years of not knowing. Therefore, it did impact
Speaker 3: kids wanting to come to Louisville because a lot of
Speaker 3: them might have said, yeah, for sure, but I don't
Speaker 3: want to go there if I know for certain that
Speaker 3: there's no tournament because they're gonna get I mean, yet
Speaker 3: people like Pat Forty who write at the time, he
Speaker 3: was writing for Yahoo nas it's pores illustrated that we're
Speaker 3: you know, basically saying Louis's gonna get the death penalty.
Speaker 3: I mean, you had somebody who worked for our own
Speaker 3: paper in town, the Courier Journal, when Chris Mack was here,
Speaker 3: claiming Louisville was going to get the death penalty, when
Speaker 3: that wasn't realistic in any way. The death penalty is
Speaker 3: not a punishment as far as what it actually is.
Speaker 2: It's not realistic.
Speaker 3: It's not there are TV contracts with these networks based
Speaker 3: off your conference that like you can't just have say
Speaker 3: a team doesn't get to play on TV like that,
Speaker 3: that wouldn't happen. So I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: because in the end, whenever we went through the what
Speaker 3: was it the I RP process, right that they just decided,
Speaker 3: you know, they're they're moving on from it. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that led to us just feeling okay, all right,
Speaker 3: well they didn't end up giving us a postseason ban,
Speaker 3: or if it was more so we were already dead
Speaker 3: right because things fell apart so bad and Max last year,
Speaker 3: and then the Kenny Payne.
Speaker 2: Era was death. Quite literally, it killed us, and.
Speaker 3: We thankfully had somebody named Pat Kelsey bring us back
Speaker 3: to life. But I mean it used to just be
Speaker 3: a constant conversation within shows like this every day about
Speaker 3: all the NCAA.
Speaker 2: The hell with them?
Speaker 3: You know, we got to keep fighting to get the
Speaker 3: banner back there. They're crazy, and I mean I don't
Speaker 3: I'm not saying anybody who had that mindset and shared
Speaker 3: those thought I'm not saying they're wrong, but man, I
Speaker 3: just I think I just had fatigue. And then again,
Speaker 3: like when you were really, really in a bad place,
Speaker 3: I mean you're sitting here thinking, like, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe it would be nice because then, you know, if
Speaker 3: we already knew we were dealt a year with no
Speaker 3: postseason for sure, then maybe we would, you know, not
Speaker 3: be as sad with the loss as that come. But
Speaker 3: either way, the reason I'm bringing all this up is
Speaker 3: because the NCAA has denied Ali Khalifa's request for an
Speaker 3: extension on his five year clock. And I haven't heard
Speaker 3: the five year clock thing mentioned in a long time
Speaker 3: because it just doesn't seem to be followed in any
Speaker 3: way consistently. I mean, maybe there are examples of players
Speaker 3: that have been injured like he was and then red
Speaker 3: shirted to where they only played three years, but it
Speaker 3: was in a five year window, so therefore they're done.
Speaker 3: Like I'm sure there are example. There are so many
Speaker 3: college athletes out there that you know, none of us
Speaker 3: have never heard of, don't know anything about, because you know,
Speaker 3: there's just that many programs. But Ali Khalifa is somebody
Speaker 3: that I just cannot imagine anybody reviewing his situation and
Speaker 3: like I'm surprised to he even had to like put
Speaker 3: in a waiver, Like it wouldn't shock me if if
Speaker 3: Ali and his crew, you know U of L Basketball,
Speaker 3: they're just trying to be as compliant as possible because
Speaker 3: that's what you're supposed to do, and like maybe they
Speaker 3: put it on the radar, like if he just play,
Speaker 3: if he just played next year without any kind of request.
Speaker 2: Part of me says, no way that would ever happen.
Speaker 3: But like he's only played three years, and I bet
Speaker 3: there's many people out there right now that follow college athletes,
Speaker 3: college follow college sports more than just casually that didn't
Speaker 3: even realize that was still a thing because you know,
Speaker 3: I many guys are playing college sports that have been
Speaker 3: in college for longer than five years. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: not everybody, but man, it's it's no longer a surprise
Speaker 3: when you turn on your TV to watch a college
Speaker 3: football or a college basketball game and you got somebody
Speaker 3: out there that's in a fifth, sixth, seventh year. I mean,
Speaker 3: our quarterback who just played here one year, he's going
Speaker 3: to be twenty five years old.
Speaker 2: In fact, I think he might. Is he twenty four
Speaker 2: or twenty five? I think he might.
Speaker 3: Is he twenty five? That sounds crazy, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: Tyler Schuck might be twenty five. He's either twenty four
Speaker 3: or twenty five.
Speaker 2: Either way.
Speaker 3: Ali Khalifa isn't just trying to, you know, find a
Speaker 3: loop Pohl to manipulate the system. This dude showed up
Speaker 3: at Charlotte in two thousand and twenty and twenty one,
Speaker 3: which of course was the first year of his college career.
Speaker 3: He did not play.
Speaker 2: He red shirted.
Speaker 3: I don't know the specifics as far as what he
Speaker 3: red shirted for, but it was not medical. But you're
Speaker 3: entitled to multiple different reags like you're entitled to red
Speaker 3: shirt for great reasons you're entiled. You know, you're entitled
Speaker 3: to red shirt for you know, it's probably not listed
Speaker 3: as because of grades. But anyways, that first year that
Speaker 3: he showed up at Charlotte and did not play, that's
Speaker 3: a free year for everybody in college sports. That's why
Speaker 3: a lot of guys got the fifth year right, because.
Speaker 2: That didn't count. It was a free year for everybody.
Speaker 3: Well, there are guys who played in that season that
Speaker 3: are still playing college basketball this upcoming season. He didn't
Speaker 3: play red shirt it played two years then at Charlotte,
Speaker 3: then one at BYU, did not play this past year,
Speaker 3: so he's only played three years. And with where college
Speaker 3: athletics is right now, no real. I mean again, maybe
Speaker 3: this is just karma for me saying the NC DOUBLEA
Speaker 3: seems as powerless as they've ever been this day and age,
Speaker 3: in the last you know, eighteen months, two years, and
Speaker 3: yet this is how they do, in fact use some
Speaker 3: power by claiming that he's in fact not going.
Speaker 2: To be eligible to play. So they're going to appeal it, and.
Speaker 3: I'm holding out hope, But can you really like just
Speaker 3: expect the NC double E to make the obvious correct decision.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we can.
Speaker 3: The good thing is is they're appealing and he's also
Speaker 3: hired a lawyer, and I don't know if I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like there will be countless examples that can
Speaker 3: be used in court by your lawyer that will have
Speaker 3: a judge tell the NC DOUBLEA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3: You cannot claim that this guy is not entitled to
Speaker 3: another year of college athletics when you've got countless examples
Speaker 3: of players that didn't like it'd be different if he played.
Speaker 3: He did not play a second for two years of college,
Speaker 3: one because of an injury where he had surgery, had
Speaker 3: to completely rehab an injury, change his body, which he's
Speaker 3: done that and the other again, like I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know why I didn't play, but like that
Speaker 3: should matter. It's clearly an age thing. You got guys
Speaker 3: playing college sports that are damnure thirty. So I hope
Speaker 3: they get it worked out. But and what gives like
Speaker 3: in a previous world prior to the NC DOUBLEA just
Speaker 3: getting bit over in court seemingly every day for the
Speaker 3: last two years, I would have just said, you know,
Speaker 3: they're going to do what they do and there's nobody
Speaker 3: that's going to hold them accountable. But we're now in
Speaker 3: a new world where people hire lawyers and the NCAA
Speaker 3: is held accountable and they're told you don't have you
Speaker 3: don't have a right to do that. You can't just
Speaker 3: decide because we said so, this guy can't play. And
Speaker 3: for a while there wasn't that process of taking it
Speaker 3: to court and having the legal battle. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: sure that did happen from time to time, but I'm
Speaker 3: glad that that did start happening because now you you know,
Speaker 3: now things that were clearly just wrong can you know,
Speaker 3: can be made right. It's a process you don't want
Speaker 3: to have to go through, but that's what that's what
Speaker 3: that's what gives me hope that he'll be able to
Speaker 3: get this thing figured out. And the example I used earlier,
Speaker 3: and the only I'm only using this as an example
Speaker 3: because I mean, it's the only player off top I
Speaker 3: could think of that I know started his college career
Speaker 3: the same year that Ali Khalifa did. And that's Jay Trayer, Louisville,
Speaker 3: former Louisville player who started his career in the freebie
Speaker 3: year that didn't count for anybody, but he played as
Speaker 3: a freshman. It was Max. It was max first year.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, No, no, no, no, it was Maxed. It was
Speaker 3: Max year with I guess his last full season. It
Speaker 3: was with car League DJ those guys. JJ was a
Speaker 3: freshman that year and then he played next year that
Speaker 3: was the Mac and Pegee year. JJ played, and then
Speaker 3: the year after that he played for Kenny Payne many games,
Speaker 3: and then the next year he red shirted but played
Speaker 3: in like ten maybe I think it was eight games actually,
Speaker 3: so he played but got hurt and didn't play in
Speaker 3: enough games to where he got the medical red shirt. Well,
Speaker 3: then he transferred to Paul that's where he played this
Speaker 3: past year. Well, he has another year of eligibility. He's
Speaker 3: playing at Murray State. So this is somebody that has
Speaker 3: actually played to an extent in five years of college basketball.
Speaker 3: Now he's getting a six year to play. And trust me,
Speaker 3: this is I want to be clear, this is not
Speaker 3: a JJ shouldn't be eligible, but it's just if he is. Rightfully, so,
Speaker 3: why would Ali Khalifa not be eligible?
Speaker 2: Make it make sense? You can't.
Speaker 3: Now the NCAA's never made sense seemingly as far as
Speaker 3: on a consistent basis, But now like you can have
Speaker 3: a little bit of belief that this process through the
Speaker 3: appeal and an attorney will get it corrected, because again,
Speaker 3: there are plenty of guys that as much as you know,
Speaker 3: we love to the NCAA is an easy punching bag,
Speaker 3: right because for us, obviously, given the fact that you know,
Speaker 3: we seemingly got no help from punishing ourselves, and they
Speaker 3: just viewed what went on at Minority Hall without any
Speaker 3: following of any of their actual guidelines and how they
Speaker 3: go about punishing people. What it came down to is
Speaker 3: they can't put a monetary value on an alleged sex act.
Speaker 3: So they just said, look, take your medicine the nature
Speaker 3: of what went on, like you're lucky, we don't close
Speaker 3: you down. Like that's the way they operated. So, you know,
Speaker 3: look kind of get it now, Like I mean, you
Speaker 3: really can't put a monetary value on a sex act.
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, like we've always felt like the NCAA has
Speaker 3: been out to get us, and we've had issues with
Speaker 3: the nc double A that really aren't the nualea's fault.
Speaker 2: It's our on fault, not meaning fans.
Speaker 3: But like you know, let's not act like things haven't
Speaker 3: gone on that should not have gone on here at
Speaker 3: U of L. But I mean, this just to me
Speaker 3: seems I mean, I don't know. When I saw the news,
Speaker 3: I'm like, that makes no sense, Like this can't be,
Speaker 3: like in what way would he not be eligible? So
Speaker 3: we shall see. But look, it'll change a lot for
Speaker 3: Louislle if he can't go, because you know you already
Speaker 3: have mean your front court would be I mean, let's
Speaker 3: put it this way without a new addition, which it
Speaker 3: sounds like Pat Kelsey is gonna add some guy. I
Speaker 3: don't know who it is. I have no clue who
Speaker 3: it may even be. I know there's a couple of
Speaker 3: foreign players that are on the radar. Maybe that's who
Speaker 3: could end up coming over. But if you know you
Speaker 3: lost James Scott unexpectedly and you know his presence will
Speaker 3: be missed, his production, as we've discussed, probably not a
Speaker 3: huge issue, but still he's not somebody in any way
Speaker 3: that I that I think is just okay, who cares
Speaker 3: he's leaving? And I'm sure Pat Kelsey doesn't think that
Speaker 3: way either. Well then now Khalifa, his eligibility is in limbo.
Speaker 3: So Sonny Frew and uh in case in prior man
Speaker 3: and I guess throw, uh, throw javaon in there as well,
Speaker 3: like that's your front court. And I actually like all
Speaker 3: those pieces, but like that's it. If Khalifa is ineligible,
Speaker 3: and of course if they don't add other players, which
Speaker 3: I believe they're going to. I just you know, I
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of info on that. I wish,
Speaker 3: I wish I did, but I don't. So that's uh,
Speaker 3: that's where we are. Not a good way for Pat
Speaker 3: Kelsey to be celebrating his fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I imagine he probably knew about this before today, and they,
Speaker 3: I would hope, feel pretty good about the appeals process.
Speaker 3: But from when I was told earlier today by somebody
Speaker 3: at UL that you know, they they they're going to
Speaker 3: appeal it, and I guess they're hopeful, but they also
Speaker 3: know that they have no like there's no timeline. The
Speaker 3: NSABA could get to it tomorrow, they could get to
Speaker 3: it in September. I mean, you just don't know. All
Speaker 3: we can do is hope. But yes, today is Pat
Speaker 3: Kelsey's fiftieth birthday. Happy birthday to Pat Kelsey. And uh
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier that like I'd never even have ever
Speaker 3: thought about his age. I just assumed he didn't age
Speaker 3: because you know, he's a he doesn't sleep, he's a
Speaker 3: he's a maniac.
Speaker 2: And I mean that in a good way.
Speaker 3: A maniac full of positive energy, good vibes, and you know,
Speaker 3: hell of a basketball coach. But if you'd told me
Speaker 3: he turned forty five or forty six today, I would
Speaker 3: have believed it.
Speaker 2: But he's fifty.
Speaker 3: And when I mentioned that earlier, there were some texts
Speaker 3: that came in on the Ellen and Federal Credit Union
Speaker 3: text line. By the way, it's five O two four
Speaker 3: three eight ninety seventy three. And if you want to
Speaker 3: give us a call, you can do that too, five
Speaker 3: O two five seven one seventy nine hundred. But two
Speaker 3: people said that they thought Pat Kelsey would be older,
Speaker 3: whereas another person said that they thought Pat Kelsey would
Speaker 3: have been closer to forty than fifty. I mean, maybe
Speaker 3: it's just because you know, I might be in love
Speaker 3: with this guy, because he brought us back to life
Speaker 3: and he's made me feel better about Louisville basketball than
Speaker 3: I ever thought I could after what went on prior
Speaker 3: to his arrival. But like, nobody thinks he looks older
Speaker 3: than fifty, right, Like maybe I'm gassing my guy up
Speaker 3: a little bit as far as like looking young. But
Speaker 3: I think if you, you know, you give me a
Speaker 3: you give me a side by side, like a lineup
Speaker 3: if you will of other people turning fifty years old,
Speaker 3: I would assume that he's going to look on the
Speaker 3: younger side. In fact, now we've got an interesting thing
Speaker 3: to do the next segment. Austin and I are going
Speaker 3: to work together to see who else is celebrating birthdays
Speaker 3: today and see if there's anybody else turning fifty good,
Speaker 3: and then we can find other maybe celebrities, you know,
Speaker 3: white dudes that are fifty or recently turned fifty.
Speaker 2: Maybe they turn.
Speaker 3: Fifty next week or last week, and we'll, you know,
Speaker 3: we'll see if and we'll try to find some that
Speaker 3: are celebrities to the point where we know who they are,
Speaker 3: like a lot of people would at least know who
Speaker 3: we're talking about, and then we can go from that.
Speaker 3: Let's do it so again. Happy birthday, Pat Kelse. He
Speaker 3: could throw the first pitch at the Reds game today.
Speaker 3: And I don't follow baseball at all, and certainly don't
Speaker 3: follow much about the Reds, but all I've heard in
Speaker 3: recent weeks, is that their fans hate their team and
Speaker 3: that who's the guy who is the real promising young star?
Speaker 2: What is his name?
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I don't think he's been like bad,
Speaker 3: but it does sound as if like maybe he hasn't
Speaker 3: necessarily elevated as much as people expected.
Speaker 4: I won Okay, I won't.
Speaker 3: I won't claim to know that I know anything about
Speaker 3: the Reds in their situation, but it just seems like
Speaker 3: the Reds are, you know, their fans are back to
Speaker 3: just being you know, they used to be you know,
Speaker 3: they used to know where they stand. But also they
Speaker 3: would really get excited, which is what it should be.
Speaker 3: They were excited this year for Terry Frank. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: now like they hate their team. But today they let
Speaker 3: Pat Kelsey throw out the first pitch and they win
Speaker 3: seven to one. So like, let's just listen, let's not
Speaker 3: act like that's just some random coincidence. That's that's the
Speaker 3: energy you get. I mean, when PK is involved, you
Speaker 3: got a better chance of winning. Yeah, I mean he
Speaker 3: did show up here and say we're gonna win games,
Speaker 3: and he clearly meant it, and that's you know, that's
Speaker 3: exactly what happened. So exactly exactly, all right, So the
Speaker 3: let's see the the Caleb Williams situation real quick. I
Speaker 3: don't I haven't read the entire ESPN article, but I
Speaker 3: just feel like this has got to be an awkward
Speaker 3: situation in Chicago. But maybe not because I think even
Speaker 3: going into the draft, when it became clear he had
Speaker 3: no doubt and he was going to get drafted by Chicago.
Speaker 3: I mean, at that point, I think he, you know,
Speaker 3: Bears fans probably realized and maybe understood why he didn't
Speaker 3: want to go there, and they were willing to move on.
Speaker 3: But the details as far as what Caleb Williams and
Speaker 3: his family were at least going to try to do
Speaker 3: or at least thought about doing to avoid going to Chicago,
Speaker 3: I mean, if I was a fan of the Bears,
Speaker 3: I mean I would feel like, first of all, you
Speaker 3: should be lucky to be here. Maybe that's not true,
Speaker 3: but as a fan you might think that. But also
Speaker 3: like he's not good, Like he may know and he
Speaker 3: does get the benefit of the doubt when it comes
Speaker 3: to just like being the quarterback for the Bears who
Speaker 3: could make the Bears look good. There's such a mess, right,
Speaker 3: But like anybody claiming that he showed a lot of
Speaker 3: real upside in his rookie season. I don't know where
Speaker 3: you saw that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Again, it may just be because of how lousy they
Speaker 3: are as a franchise, and he may end up being
Speaker 3: really good down the line. But like, if he's not,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be totally shocked. But this is
Speaker 3: from this is an excerpt from ESPN on the whole situation.
Speaker 3: So there is a book that it's coming out, American Kings,
Speaker 3: a Biography of the Quarterback. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's a book about a lot of quarterbacks or just
Speaker 3: him featured among many other quarterbacks. But I'm reading here
Speaker 3: from ESPN dot coms This quarterback, Kaye Williams, was so
Speaker 3: concerned about being picked by the Chicago Bears in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four that he and his family weighed blowing up
Speaker 3: the entire NFL draft, consulting with lawyers to figure out
Speaker 3: a way around the league's collective bargaining agreement while considering
Speaker 3: signing with the United Football League. That again came from
Speaker 3: the book quote, Chicago is the place quarterbacks go to die.
Speaker 3: Carl Williams, Caleb's father told Seth Wickersham, author of American
Speaker 3: King's biography of the quarterback, in the months before the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four so this happened, So this was all
Speaker 3: on record, meaning like for the book, prior to him
Speaker 3: being drafted. So like, if I was Caleb Williams, I
Speaker 3: would find a way to like maybe he already has
Speaker 3: like address this and claim that he's happy to be
Speaker 3: in Chicago, even if he's lying, Like, I think that
Speaker 3: would probably be the best, the best case scenario.
Speaker 2: But I need to go to the Vikings. He told
Speaker 2: his father, that's a quote from this book. Let's do it.
Speaker 3: His father replied, But both Caleb and Carl knew that
Speaker 3: a trade to a divisional rival was extremely unlikely. Bears
Speaker 3: GM Ryan Pols stood firm, telling Williams, we're drafting you
Speaker 3: no matter what. That left one opinion to publicly attack
Speaker 3: the Bears and the city of Chicago, hoping that it
Speaker 3: would make the situation untenable, similar to what happened with
Speaker 3: Jack and John Elway when they did it in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty three with the Baltimore Colts. Here's another quote. He's
Speaker 3: worried about me taking bullets. Carl Williams told Wickersham of
Speaker 3: his son, I don't care, don't. I just don't agree
Speaker 3: with this bleep. You know, I'm more interested in making
Speaker 3: sure that he can do whatever he wants to do.
Speaker 2: End quote.
Speaker 3: But Caleb was concerned that if they did try and
Speaker 3: the Bears refuse to trade him, it would make a
Speaker 3: tough situation worse and the n kayle Williams told Wickersham,
Speaker 3: I wasn't ready to nuke the city. So it sounds
Speaker 3: like he had a little bit more awareness of what
Speaker 3: could potentially happen if they fight this really hard, whereas
Speaker 3: his dad was like, you know, no, we need to
Speaker 3: get you to a different franchise.
Speaker 2: They're in your division. You're a Vikings fan.
Speaker 3: It's I would ask you, would you rather have kayleb
Speaker 3: Williams or McCarthy, But like that's impossible to answer, right,
Speaker 3: Like you just don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean still take McCarthy. Yeah, but with
Speaker 2: the bar like give me the champion, put your rivalry
Speaker 2: within the division, feelings to the side, if possible, Like,
Speaker 2: am I wrong? Did you?
Speaker 3: Like again, he didn't have a whole lot to work with.
Speaker 3: They're a mess in general offensively, but like I didn't
Speaker 3: think I never.
Speaker 2: Felt like he was as good as everybody.
Speaker 3: He's not saying, I'm not saying he's terrible, and clearly
Speaker 3: what do I know about evaluating quarterbacks in the NFL,
Speaker 3: But like to me, he was somebody that I just
Speaker 3: never really thought was quite as special as advertised.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's I mean, I will say for the benefit
Speaker 4: like his there was a terrible situation for him to
Speaker 4: fall into. Matt Eberflus was a bozo and the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 4: I know, does it sound like a Doctor Seuss character iber.
Speaker 2: Fluse and then there absolutely does.
Speaker 4: Their offensive coordinator was a joke that had a bad
Speaker 4: offensive line, not a great defense. And he's like, I
Speaker 4: knew it was going to be like this anyways coming
Speaker 4: into last year because and the time that I've watched football,
Speaker 4: especially time that I've been a Vikings fan and Bears hater,
Speaker 4: that they've never produced quarterbacks. They've never produced like a
Speaker 4: top ten offense, at least in such a long long time,
Speaker 4: and I don't think that was changing now with Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4: And then they were already like he was gonna be
Speaker 4: in a fail situation anyways because his the uber flues,
Speaker 4: his head coach who they were almost going to fire
Speaker 4: last year anyways, Like if he had a bad start,
Speaker 4: then he's out now, right, Yeah, yeah, he's gone now.
Speaker 4: So I just knew it wasn't gonna be like a
Speaker 4: stable situation coming in just because everybody else is already
Speaker 4: on the hot seat. Everyone around him, it seems like,
Speaker 4: and just he's I don't think that he's all that great.
Speaker 4: You know, It's like I said, it's just a rookie year.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you see, you know his numbers last year.
Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're fine, but I mean their offense
Speaker 4: overall was one of the worst in the league.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: Everyone just thinks that adding Ben Johnson and with Caleb
Speaker 4: Williams is going to double their win total. They've only
Speaker 4: won four last year, so I mean, I guess anything
Speaker 4: better is going to make them look good. But I
Speaker 4: don't think they're an eight win team just because they
Speaker 4: go get one of they go get Dan Campbell's ear whisper,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So, I don't know, I've
Speaker 4: been starting to hate the Bears recently.
Speaker 3: You hear that, guys, we got my man travel chief
Speaker 3: talking ball talking the Shield NFL. So I mean that
Speaker 3: their offense really was like abysmal, and he wasn't responsible
Speaker 3: for that. It's just for me, I guess more than anything.
Speaker 3: It's just that because of everything that came with his hype,
Speaker 3: and maybe it's because of his personality with like the
Speaker 3: painted fingernails and just the you know, just he's he's
Speaker 3: a rare.
Speaker 4: He seems like when he got drafted, you're not going
Speaker 4: to be doing that a lot this year. I think
Speaker 4: that they didn't, indeed, fat do that a lot.
Speaker 3: That's like our guy Max Strews, who if you don't
Speaker 3: feel like, if you don't you don't believe we can
Speaker 3: get this done, don't.
Speaker 2: Show up for work.
Speaker 3: Guy goes over nine. The Jeff Teague podcast had a
Speaker 3: lot of fun with that, which I thought was really funny.
Speaker 3: Check So anyways, this is a random stat that I
Speaker 3: guess will make you know, will make me feel somewhat
Speaker 3: wrong about him. This is really random stab, but hey,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm using chat GBT. Williams achieved the
Speaker 3: streak of three hundred and fifty four consecutive pass attempts
Speaker 3: without an interception, the longest by a rookie in NFL
Speaker 3: history and the fourth longest overall so there you go,
Speaker 3: take that and do whatever you want with it. But
Speaker 3: when it comes to the awkwardness in Chicago, if this,
Speaker 3: if this does make Bears fans feel a certain way
Speaker 3: about him, would I would ask them to realize that
Speaker 3: you probably say a lot worse about your franchise than
Speaker 3: even he did, because you're like, that's one of those
Speaker 3: things where it's like, you know, we can criticize the
Speaker 3: organization as fans, but you know, if we got ungrateful
Speaker 3: players doing it, then I'll get him the hell out
Speaker 3: of here. That's just you know, that's the entitlement that
Speaker 3: sports fans have these days, and you know, I kind
Speaker 3: of get it because this is there's no way to
Speaker 3: say this without it's sounding ridiculous, but fans are just fans, right,
Speaker 3: They customers, They buy tickets, they support and all that's needed.
Speaker 3: But you know, they have no real control. However, they're
Speaker 3: going to be around longer than the GM, They're gonna
Speaker 3: be around longer than any coach, any player, so like
Speaker 3: they're not in any way a factor in the success
Speaker 3: or failure. But that's how you do end up feeling
Speaker 3: a level of like, you know, entitlement, because again, you
Speaker 3: you know you're not as important as as an individual
Speaker 3: as you know, your quarterback or your GM or whatever.
Speaker 3: But like nobody could question if you love it as
Speaker 3: much as they do because to them it's a job.
Speaker 3: To you, it's you know, probably an escape from reality.
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Speaker 3: So Pat Kelsey turns fifty years old today and I
Speaker 3: mentioned that I was surprised to know that he was
Speaker 3: that old. I wouldn't have guessed that he was substantially
Speaker 3: younger than that, but you know, forty six, forty seven
Speaker 3: would have been my would have been my guess if
Speaker 3: you told me his here's his birthday, how old is he?
Speaker 3: And I got some feedback on the text line as
Speaker 3: far as some said they were also surprised he was
Speaker 3: that old. Somebody said they were surprised he's not older.
Speaker 3: So I don't really know if I'm just you know,
Speaker 3: gassing up my guy Pat Kelsey as if he's going
Speaker 3: to always just be this young stallion because you know,
Speaker 3: I'm such a fan. But I found other celebrities that
Speaker 3: are also either fifty this year or about to be
Speaker 3: fifty this year, So I guess, you know, technically, these
Speaker 3: these folks would most likely be like in the same
Speaker 3: grade as Pat Kelsey and I I don't I think
Speaker 3: from my end, I'm more so thinking, okay, yeah, that
Speaker 3: checks out that he'd be fifty, because if you told
Speaker 3: me these two were the same age, I wouldn't challenge
Speaker 3: you at all. We'll start with this guy, Leonardo DiCaprio. Okay,
Speaker 3: would you guess that he and Pat are the same age,
Speaker 3: or would you guess ones older?
Speaker 4: I would think that Leo would be older, more.
Speaker 3: So based off of his his lengthy career.
Speaker 4: It's just been around since he was so young.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, because that because visually, yeahty check, fifties checks out.
Speaker 3: But like I would also believe he's closer to sixty
Speaker 3: because as you, you know, I think what you were
Speaker 3: alluding to, he's just been in the public eye as
Speaker 3: a celebrity for way, you know, for the vast majority
Speaker 3: of his life. What about Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 4: Kinda kind of the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, but I would have guessed Jimmy Fallon was
Speaker 3: a little bit older, not much, but just a little bit.
Speaker 4: Bradley Cooper, Wow, See, I thought Bradley Cooper would be
Speaker 4: somewhere around like forty three, forty four. I thought he'd
Speaker 4: be way younger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: But as I'm looking at these individuals, I realize, one,
Speaker 3: they're famous, and they you know, are good looking. Therefore
Speaker 3: they have the ability to have a wide range where
Speaker 3: I mean, there aren't many that I would look at
Speaker 3: and say, damn, that guy's thirty five. He looks sixty.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because more often than not
Speaker 3: it'd be the other way around. You know, your fame
Speaker 3: and just your good genes. I guess probably one of
Speaker 3: the real Like most celebrities, not all, but most celebrities,
Speaker 3: a lot of them are beautiful people, so you know,
Speaker 3: they might be able to get away with looking a
Speaker 3: lot younger than they actually are.
Speaker 2: Now, do you know who Pedro Pascal is?
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the uh, that's the guy from Last of Us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's He's in a lot of things, Thrones too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think of him more so. As for me, it's Narcos.
Speaker 3: That's what I think of. But he's in a lot
Speaker 3: of other things as well.
Speaker 2: It's not as much. His name isn't as big as
Speaker 2: the others. But if you looked a.
Speaker 3: Bet, if you don't know that name and you googled him,
Speaker 3: you would recognize him from one of the things we mentioned,
Speaker 3: I would have.
Speaker 2: Guessed he was older.
Speaker 4: I would have guessed he was younger than.
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess ark I think because Narcos took place
Speaker 3: like in an older time. Oh sure, that made me
Speaker 3: just assume that he was older, I guess. And that's
Speaker 3: really pect. What about Nelly, Okay, I could, I could.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Hearing then Nelly's fifty is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: Yes, because you would just assume he's younger, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just only like I only assumed he was
Speaker 4: only like, I don't know, maybe ten years older than I.
Speaker 2: Was and Nelly.
Speaker 3: So Nelly had to be I don't know, I was
Speaker 3: gonna say Nelly had to be older when he became
Speaker 3: like famous, but not really. I mean he when he
Speaker 3: kind of burst on the scene as a as a
Speaker 3: notable artist, and then of course he had a phenomenal
Speaker 3: run in music, and I'm sure he's still active to
Speaker 3: some extent. But his first album that you know was
Speaker 3: was a big deal Country Grammar. It came out in
Speaker 3: two thousand. That was twenty five years ago, so he
Speaker 3: was twenty five, which again that checks out.
Speaker 2: It's just crazy that that was that that was that.
Speaker 4: Long five when Yeah came out. Wow, I did not
Speaker 4: know that.
Speaker 3: Well, the internet wasn't then what it is now, So
Speaker 3: I think the Internet can now lead to I would
Speaker 3: imagine a lot of the I think it's rare for
Speaker 3: somebody to emerge in music, especially in the hip hop genre,
Speaker 3: emerge like late twenties and like have a big break,
Speaker 3: if that makes sense, because nowadays it's usually younger people
Speaker 3: via the Internet that really gas up and make these
Speaker 3: artists such big names. I would have not had any
Speaker 3: clue about this person's age, will I am.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's uh.
Speaker 3: You could have told me anything, and I probably would
Speaker 3: have just said, okay, yeah whatever, like, yeah, he seems old. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's from uh, and he's looked the same for ever,
Speaker 3: he's from what's the what's the band? Black Eyed Peace,
Speaker 3: black Eyed Peas or what about Ryan Seacrest. I would
Speaker 3: have guess older because he's been around forever and he's
Speaker 3: looked the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks relatively young, but I know he's been
Speaker 4: around a while, so I would have I still don't
Speaker 4: know if I would have said fifty for Ryan.
Speaker 3: Seacrest Steve O, I would have said younger, Yeah, younger.
Speaker 3: He actually looks like he's got some miles on him,
Speaker 3: because you know, he nearly died many times on on
Speaker 3: television making a TV show for us to all, you know,
Speaker 3: be entertained by. But he's fifty, wow, and then.
Speaker 4: Uh still like married Delana del Rey, Steve O, Yeah
Speaker 4: from Jackass, I didn't even know that he was. I
Speaker 4: think he was like he was dating her, married to
Speaker 4: her or something.
Speaker 2: Shout out to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see another one, uh, Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 2: I would have guessed fifty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have guessed around fifty. He's been around
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 2: And there's some others that like Derek Jeter. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think Derek Jeter and Pat Kelsey look exactly the same. Acheck.
Speaker 2: Just looking at this picture of Derek Jeter.
Speaker 4: Wow, still fifty years old for Derek Jeters. A lot
Speaker 4: of playing a long time.
Speaker 2: A lot of celebrities are turning like fifty this year.
Speaker 2: Like I bet anymore.
Speaker 3: I bet if you do this every I bet if
Speaker 3: you look at like forty nine, there'll be a bunch
Speaker 3: because again, like there's a lot of people born every year.
Speaker 3: But Rob Deerdrich or Diedrick how you said, yeah, he's fifty,
Speaker 3: which I only know of that I would Yeah, dear Dick,
Speaker 3: I would have guessed older. But not because of looks
Speaker 3: or because of how long he was around, but because
Speaker 3: like it became a joke. You know, people were clowning
Speaker 3: him about how he really catered to an insanely young
Speaker 3: audience as if he was kind of one of them, right,
Speaker 3: but at the time he was really he was older.
Speaker 3: Like there's an SNL skit where I can't think of
Speaker 3: who it is because I mean, he kind of I
Speaker 3: wouldn't say he looks like him, but like there's no
Speaker 3: SNL character that I can think of that visually. Was
Speaker 3: was better to make fun of of Rob Deerdrich That is,
Speaker 3: I keep getting it wrong, dear Dick. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: they made fun of ridiculous ridiculousness on SNL many years ago.
Speaker 3: And the I wouldn't even know his name if you
Speaker 3: said it. But the SNL actor who who I mean?
Speaker 3: Part of it is, well, let me see if I
Speaker 3: let me see if I can pull this up here
Speaker 3: because it's actually I mean they made right out of
Speaker 3: the gate. He makes a joke about about the you know,
Speaker 3: the age thing, and you know, like you wouldn't have
Speaker 3: thought about it because who would, but like how much
Speaker 3: older he was than like Chanelle West Coast when they
Speaker 3: were doing that, like you would have you know, you
Speaker 3: probably would have assumed that he was older.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh, ridiculousness. The visual does a lot, But.
Speaker 5: What is what is welcome to ridiculousness. I'm Rob Deerdak
Speaker 5: and you wouldn't know it from my clothes, but I'm
Speaker 5: almost fifty. Y'all joining me as always Stee low Brim
Speaker 5: and Chanel with cool.
Speaker 2: I'm already laughing.
Speaker 3: They were that was a really good That was a
Speaker 3: really it was really good at making fun of what
Speaker 3: that was. And Chanel West Coast is like the worst,
Speaker 3: I mean definition of cringe. But yeah, he he's he's
Speaker 3: older and to his credit though, he has completely removed
Speaker 3: himself from the spotlight in every way.
Speaker 2: And you know, he had a good run.
Speaker 4: He was a big part of my like early childhood
Speaker 4: because I loved Robin Big. Yeah, Oh, Robin Big was
Speaker 4: great favorite shows. And then uh the U the one
Speaker 4: after that, I forget what it was called, the.
Speaker 3: Where it's yes, uh, fantasy Factory, Fantasy Factory. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: had a he had a great run. And you know
Speaker 3: there was a's a it's it's a it's a it's
Speaker 3: a nerdy it's a nerdy thing. But he has made
Speaker 3: so much money from MTV because all his shows, it
Speaker 3: was it was so cheap to produce to where he
Speaker 3: agreed to do it. But like they were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: we don't have to pay a lot to produce it,
Speaker 3: and he doesn't want that much to be paid per episode.
Speaker 3: He just wants two things. He wants royalties and he
Speaker 3: also wants the ability to use the show to promote
Speaker 3: all of his brands. All of his brands blew up
Speaker 3: on those shows and he I mean, think about how
Speaker 3: many times that show is played on MTV every day.
Speaker 3: So I think he's made more money from MTV than
Speaker 3: anybody else and it's not even close. And that sounds
Speaker 3: kind of crazy off top, but like if you think
Speaker 3: about it, like it really isn't that crazy. One more
Speaker 3: celebrity that I feel like people would know that it
Speaker 3: is also celebrating the fiftieth birthday this year Dax Shephard.
Speaker 2: I would have believed he was a little bit.
Speaker 4: Older, but I can't stand that yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's, uh, you know how he got his start now,
Speaker 3: so do you remember your life?
Speaker 2: You're a little young for this.
Speaker 3: But this show was such a big deal because it
Speaker 3: was nothing like it at the time, and it was
Speaker 3: you know, it was it was raw and real punked
Speaker 3: with Ashton Kutcher.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so Rob, but Dak Shephard.
Speaker 3: Was was oftentimes the actor that wasn't famous that would
Speaker 3: be pranking all of the celebrities where he so like
Speaker 3: he could like keep a straight face and they didn't
Speaker 3: know who he was to where like they would not
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have a clue that they were being pranked
Speaker 3: because he just seems so believable because he was a
Speaker 3: good actor. Okay, yeah, I don't love him, but he
Speaker 3: was actually I liked him without a paddle.
Speaker 2: I like that movie more than anything. Uh. And then
Speaker 2: Employee the Month was I don't know he was annoying
Speaker 2: in that. Yeah, Employee of the Month is that?
Speaker 4: Uh that's Dane Cook.
Speaker 2: Yes, they were both annoying, right.
Speaker 4: Like I liked Dane Cook. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson isn't that too? Yeah? No, was it? I
Speaker 2: think so?
Speaker 4: Yeah it might have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Employee the Month was Dax Shepherd, Dane Cook and
Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson.
Speaker 4: Okay, and see the Cook wasn't terrible.
Speaker 2: He remember Dak Shepherd was the guy was like the boss.
Speaker 3: Yes, he was the annoying and ninety one Honda, how
Speaker 3: dare you remember that line?
Speaker 4: That's why I can't stand him is just because of
Speaker 4: that and he's got a hot wife. And if he
Speaker 4: does at Christon bells hot if you would have told
Speaker 4: me he was fifty, because he looks nothing like he
Speaker 4: did in that movie, Like he's he's actually buff. Now,
Speaker 4: oh it looks great. Yeah, he looks a little bit older.
Speaker 4: So I want to have been chocked.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got to keep up his appearance. He's
Speaker 3: married to Kristen Bell, Like, come on, you got to
Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta keep up with your appearance. Randomly,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna mention this and now we gotta get a break.
Speaker 2: There was a there was a movie, a.
Speaker 3: Remake of Chips that came out in twenty seventeen that
Speaker 3: had Dak Sheppard and Michael Penia, who's probably not a
Speaker 3: big name, but like you've probably seen him in a
Speaker 3: ton of stuff, he's been in a lot of That
Speaker 3: was a stupid funny movie, if that makes sense. Like
Speaker 3: expectations were low. It wasn't like cinematic gold, but it
Speaker 3: had a lot of funny stuff in it. So yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, quick break, We'll come back on the other side.
Speaker 3: Keep it rolling along.
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Speaker 2: So we've got.
Speaker 3: We've got some NBA playoff actions and I just one
Speaker 3: game as the Thunder will look to put an end
Speaker 3: of the series against the Nuggets. I believe this one
Speaker 3: is back in Denver as a Thunder have a three
Speaker 3: two lead, and then of course, if Denver can get
Speaker 3: pass tonight, they'll get a chance to to close it out.
Speaker 3: At Okay, see easier Seve than done. Excuse me, easier
Speaker 3: said than done. That's been a really entertaining series, at
Speaker 3: least recently, and I would expect you'll see you'll see
Speaker 3: the same tonight. I mean, Denver, they're one of the
Speaker 3: best teams in the NBA. They've got I think the
Speaker 3: best player on the planet, one of the best players
Speaker 3: in my lifetime in Jokic, and then when you throw
Speaker 3: in the other pieces that are really good players like
Speaker 3: I think clearly these guys benefit from playing alongside somebody
Speaker 3: like Jokich. She's just so good at everything. I mean,
Speaker 3: a phenomenal passer. I mean, he's he's insane, But at
Speaker 3: any moment, I feel like Michael Porter Junior and you
Speaker 3: know Gordon, those guys can can really not necessarily take
Speaker 3: over a game, but like you've got to account for
Speaker 3: them as well. And then I have to mention Jamal Murray,
Speaker 3: who's been good for a long time, long time. And
Speaker 3: then I don't even know what its numbers are, but
Speaker 3: like the fact that Russell Westbrook is, you know, the
Speaker 3: fifth best player on that team, like that that speaks
Speaker 3: to how loaded they are. So I know, okayc has
Speaker 3: been great all year and and uh, their home court
Speaker 3: advantage which they've had, I mean, they don't have it tonight,
Speaker 3: but the scene in OKCU has been insane. And I
Speaker 3: will say Oklahoma City, they.
Speaker 2: They're friend there.
Speaker 3: It's the one an NBA team that I have oftentimes
Speaker 3: really been envia sub because as far as market size,
Speaker 3: like how much is Okay I mean is Oklahoma City?
Speaker 3: As far as like market and population, like where do
Speaker 3: they rank to Louisville? Because to me, they're the They're
Speaker 3: the city that I feel like has an NBA team
Speaker 3: that is most similar to us, maybe outside of port
Speaker 3: maybe outside of Portland.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm thinking too, because it's not not a
Speaker 4: big city, but like it's still Oklahoma City. Yeah that
Speaker 4: makes sense.
Speaker 2: No, I know what you mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, and they don't have any other pro team
Speaker 3: outside of the outside of the Thunder And look, Tomming
Speaker 3: was huge for them because weren't they the team that
Speaker 3: was initially like I get confused, the Charlotte Bobcats. I
Speaker 3: think the Charlotte Bobcats ended up becoming the Thunder.
Speaker 2: No, and then.
Speaker 3: A team that left Charlotte and then came back then
Speaker 3: went from being the I don't know, I'm the SuperSonics, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's who it was, thank you. But what
Speaker 3: was the Bobcat Hornets thing? Because like Charlotte lost the
Speaker 3: Hornets and then there was the Bobcats. I don't know
Speaker 3: New Orleans what was It's gonna drive me crazy because
Speaker 3: if you remember, I.
Speaker 4: Do remember the Charlotte Bobcats.
Speaker 2: And who was in the who was in?
Speaker 3: Was there an Orleans team that got moved because of
Speaker 3: the Hurricane Katrina? It was because they they weren't they
Speaker 3: weren't the Pelicans. I think the original horne Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what happened. The Hornets left Charlotte, I believe. For New Orleans.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to look this up and I'm I'm
Speaker 3: clearly I'm getting it wrong. I'm so confused just thinking
Speaker 3: about it in my head.
Speaker 4: But either way, they left for New Orleans just because
Speaker 4: that's that's a team that.
Speaker 2: Chris Paul was on, right, yeah, okay see and j R.
Speaker 3: Smith was on that team too, Okay see ended up
Speaker 3: just you know, taking over one of the one of
Speaker 3: the teams. And they've done They've been phenomenal with it.
Speaker 3: I mean, keep in mind, like they're small market. They
Speaker 3: were super successful and then Kadi just decided to be
Speaker 3: lame and blow it all up because he wanted to go,
Speaker 3: you know, be a sidekick in Golden State and play
Speaker 3: for the team that you know, beat him in the finals.
Speaker 3: And then they had to start all over. And here
Speaker 3: they are. They've drafted really well with SGA, Chad Holmgren,
Speaker 3: I mean, even Jalen Williams. I mean they're they're yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean they're they've done it the right way and like,
Speaker 3: to me, they are the perfect example of a small
Speaker 3: market team that is that is tested because you know,
Speaker 3: you've got these players that are like nobody wants to
Speaker 3: go play and okay, see I shouldn't say nobody, but
Speaker 3: like these guys will end a like for example, right now,
Speaker 3: I mean, the MVP is gonna be Shay and I
Speaker 3: don't know what his contract is. I think all accounts,
Speaker 3: he seems like he's gonna he's gonna stay there. But
Speaker 3: when you look at the other guys that are eventually
Speaker 3: gonna be you know, up. But you can't give everybody
Speaker 3: a Supermax and you know, when you like, it's almost
Speaker 3: like when you build a team organically so well, like
Speaker 3: they have here with this current team that they have,
Speaker 3: I mean, it just be you know, because you just
Speaker 3: have to know you're not gonna be able to keep
Speaker 3: everybody just because it's just not it's not it's not feasible.
Speaker 3: It's that damn storage thing again. It must go off
Speaker 3: at like five o'clock every every day.
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, right on time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, SGA is their franchise player. But you know,
Speaker 3: Jalen Williams has been really good for them, that's it.
Speaker 3: And that's a guy who they drafted at as Santa
Speaker 3: Clay that nobody knew who it was, who he was,
Speaker 3: you know, Cheded Holmgren, that was an obvious pick, and
Speaker 3: he's now finally blossoming into being a really good player,
Speaker 3: averaging fifteen.
Speaker 2: And and and and.
Speaker 3: Ten on the year they did. They've done, They've done
Speaker 3: well in trades and free agency. I mean good, good
Speaker 3: role players like Hartenstein, Alex Caruso, as you mentioned, lou Dort.
Speaker 3: So you know they're they're really good. But to me,
Speaker 3: they're the team that any given night, yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be shocked if it's a if it's a thirty two
Speaker 3: team bracket and you got to go one by one
Speaker 3: instead of going you know, multiple game series, yeah, they
Speaker 3: could win and it wouldn't shock me. I just feel
Speaker 3: like they're the example that I've often referenced that there's
Speaker 3: a there's a vast difference in the NBA and being
Speaker 3: able to put together a really good record in eighty
Speaker 3: two games where you're just playing different teams night in
Speaker 3: and night out. But once you get into a seven
Speaker 3: game grind, you know, it becomes a little bit you know,
Speaker 3: when everybody gets comfortable with the opponent, that's a tougher task.
Speaker 3: And I think Denver really not a great example because
Speaker 3: Denver's Denver, like they've got Jokich. At any point you
Speaker 3: could lose to Denver, Like, Okay, we were great, but man,
Speaker 3: what are we gonna do about this guy? But yeah,
Speaker 3: this series has been really entertaining. I'm not really sure
Speaker 3: who I want to win. To be honest with you,
Speaker 3: I kind of like the thought of the Thunder doing it.
Speaker 3: But then again, I find myself at times watching Yokish
Speaker 3: and thinking I don't want this guy to go home
Speaker 3: because I want to keep watching him play.
Speaker 2: He's that special.
Speaker 4: I think if the Nuggets win, I think they're probably
Speaker 4: going to go and to win the championship. I think
Speaker 4: if if the Thunder win, then I really I really
Speaker 4: like Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Are you at any point like Boston can't do this right?
Speaker 3: Like they won last night? Good for them, But there's
Speaker 3: I'm with you. But there's something about the Knicks being
Speaker 3: front runners and always getting ahead of themselves, like they
Speaker 3: feel like they've already won this series.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 3: And also Jalen Brown is I think it's there's no
Speaker 3: way to say this without Jason Tatum is one of
Speaker 3: the most talented players on the planet. He is a
Speaker 3: a one tier one superstar. But Jalen Brown is also
Speaker 3: really good and he's maybe the best two way player
Speaker 3: in the league. So like he he's now elevated to
Speaker 3: take on a bigger role, and who's going to be
Speaker 3: shocked if he rises to the occasion. I mean I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be, and this is nobody's fault. But when Tatum's
Speaker 3: not on the floor, others are just more comfortable because
Speaker 3: a lot of things, understandably so run through him because
Speaker 3: he's chasing Tatum. But like you know, sometimes guys get
Speaker 3: hurt and clearly you're not at full strength, you're not
Speaker 3: your potential's not there. But others can get better because
Speaker 3: they're put in a different role, and you know.
Speaker 2: It can work out.
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping a lot of these series just continue,
Speaker 3: because hey, if a series is going deep into the
Speaker 3: seven games, then that means it's competitive as far as
Speaker 3: game in and game out. And we've had that before,
Speaker 3: but now it actually feels like more often this playoffs,
Speaker 3: we're getting good games, and that's what I've really really loved.
Speaker 3: All Right, way too late for a break, My apologies.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'll maybe one day do better.