WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:04.480 You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM 2 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:11.160 six forty signal pleasure being with you. Thank you so 3 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:16.000 much for inviting us into your lives every morning. Neil 4 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:19.519 Sebaibra is in for Bill next week, and your long 5 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:23.800 national nightmare is nearly over. Three out of four Americans, 6 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.800 including sixty percent of Republicans, now saying the Trump administration's 7 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:30.640 use of the Signal group chat discussing the military strikes. 8 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:35.200 They say that's a serious problem, especially since the Pentagon 9 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:37.799 said don't use that. This was from ABC. 10 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.920 The information was sent on the encrypted messaging app Signal, 11 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:43.520 which the Pentagon found in twenty twenty one to be 12 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:47.560 an unauthorized means of communicating sensitive information. Secretary of State 13 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:50.280 Mark or Rubio says the chat was set up so 14 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:53.960 Trump's national security team could coordinate communication with members of 15 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:55.359 Congress and foreign leaders. 16 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:59.280 This was a sort of description of what we could 17 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:04.000 inform our counterparts around the world when the time came 18 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:04.560 to do so. 19 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:08.280 Growing calls on Capitol Hill from Democrats for Hegseth to 20 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.879 resign or be fires is that going to happen? 21 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:16.280 Lebby Dean is the News Nation correspondent and Lebby joins us. Lebby. 22 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:18.719 Is there any sign that Hexith is going to resign 23 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:19.560 or be fired? 24 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:23.920 Today is the day if that is the case, because 25 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:26.599 Hegseth right now is headed to Japan. He was in 26 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:30.719 the Philippines. He's been doing this by that overseas trip 27 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:32.799 for a couple of days now ever since the story 28 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:36.120 broke with the day he left. And then you've got 29 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:39.280 Waltz who was headed with the Vice President in his 30 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:43.599 landing shortly in Greenland. So for President Trump to fire 31 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:45.599 either of these two, to do it while they would 32 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:50.079 be overseas unlikely. So we head into this weekend with 33 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:53.799 their heads not on the shopping block here, but certainly 34 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.640 it's been talked about after everything that's happened. 35 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:00.640 Yeah, unlikely, but it wouldn't be unprecedented because if we recall, 36 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:04.959 James Comy got fired via tweet while he was not 37 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:09.280 in DC, although Collmy wasn't handpicked by President Trump either, 38 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:11.759 whereas these guys are kind of his name is all 39 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:14.479 over these guys, right, So does that pose a political 40 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:15.199 issue for him? 41 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:18.199 I mean, if the past informs the president here when 42 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:21.560 it comes to President Trump firing people, it wouldn't be shocking. 43 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:25.159 I would say from my past experience of covering President Trump, 44 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:27.599 this would seem to be more of a lenient approach 45 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:31.039 from him. We've seen him more or less stand completely 46 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:34.680 behind his national security team, specifically Walt who was in 47 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.439 that cabinet meeting earlier this week and sitting in the 48 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:42.719 cabinet room rather and Trump was looking him up, despite 49 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:45.000 him taking full fault for this and then saying the 50 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:48.520 same of heg Seth as well standing behind them at 51 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:50.319 this point. But Yeah, as you mentioned, it wouldn't be 52 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:55.080 a shock if President Trump were to ultimately fire someone. 53 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:57.280 It's a satellite Lebby. 54 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:01.400 Dean is a News Nation correspondent. Lebby. I don't know 55 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:04.719 about you. You're probably a very professional person. I have 56 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.840 pushed boundaries in my career in the past, and there 57 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.000 have been times that I've been told by the boss. 58 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.479 You know, this is your get out of jail free card. 59 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:17.520 Is this if the President does stand by these guys 60 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:19.960 this time, are they basically in double secret probation in 61 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:21.479 the same way that my boss has said, one more 62 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:22.360 screw up and you're done. 63 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:26.639 Look, I don't think that signal is going to be 64 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:30.759 a means of communication in the future for either of 65 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:33.439 these two, at least when it comes to things of 66 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:36.199 this national security concern and whether this is a one 67 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.039 off and they're getting off this time only to get 68 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:42.120 in trouble next time. I mean, what is that saying. 69 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:44.120 It's like first is the worst, second is the best, 70 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:48.280 or I don't know. There is the possibility, of course, 71 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.280 that they could find themselves in this kind of situation 72 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:56.560 again and potentially be fired by the president. It is 73 00:03:56.599 --> 00:04:00.719 interesting though Democrats, this is something they ailed against Teg. 74 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:04.199 Sass from the beginning, the Defense secretary for Trump who 75 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:08.360 sent the very detailed messages about these bombs being dropped 76 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.879 in Yemen in this signal group chat, and they weious 77 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:16.399 concerns about his viability in the position given he of 78 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.439 course it was in the military and does have that background, 79 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:25.399 but less intelligence community experience than some of his counterparts, 80 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.120 and was facing criticism on that front. But I mean, 81 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:31.519 it's fully they're all fully back to work today. One 82 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.240 headed to green Lend, the other has been overseas, So 83 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:38.360 I don't see any developments happening today or at least 84 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:40.399 through the weekend. But you never know when a true 85 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:42.959 social post is going to come out and everything I've 86 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.600 said has proven move does. 87 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.600 Is there an effort right now to expedite the news 88 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:53.800 cycle on this. I saw in the past some administrators 89 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.439 that have said, you know, this has lasted forty two hours, 90 00:04:57.680 --> 00:04:59.519 it was a mistake, let's move on. Let's not give 91 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:02.160 them the next seventy two hours. I mean, there has 92 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.319 to be This is a headache that continues on for 93 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:06.839 this White House. I mean, I can't think of too 94 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:09.480 many other examples where something out of the Trump administration 95 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.399 happens and we discuss it for an entire week. That 96 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.600 is the case with this Signal Group chat app. It 97 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.879 seems like they have not been able to turn the 98 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:19.600 new cycle as fast as they want to. 99 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:22.519 Yeah, it's certainly the case that they would want this 100 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:24.839 to fade into the background. I don't see that happening 101 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.959 anytime soon. Now that you've got internal investigations happening at 102 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:31.279 the White House, Congress pressing on this, the Atlantic releasing 103 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.519 more messages. You've got the court battle as well playing 104 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:36.959 out with DC Judge Boseberg, who is making sure that 105 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.639 these intelligence officials keep these messages. I don't see this 106 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.279 dying down anytime soon, because every day this week that 107 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:45.120 I've covered this. I mean we're on day five here. 108 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.279 Every day this week i've covered this, something new has developed, 109 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.759 whether that was overnight with last night Boseberg's decision here, 110 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:54.519 or it was just the release of these messages. I 111 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.040 mean every day there is a new development or a 112 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.639 new comment from an official, which keeps this, of course 113 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:02.720 in the headlines and a lot of questions moving forward. 114 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.399 I would say about what this looks like for the 115 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:08.399 administration when it comes to using signal and just their 116 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:11.120 means of communication as a whole, because this is the 117 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:16.759 big so called scandal. I mean, it's fair to say 118 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.319 this is pretty scandalous. This is their big that the 119 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:23.720 first one for the Trump administration this second go around, 120 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.120 and they certainly would like to see it die down. 121 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:26.839 I'm sure. 122 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.680 Lebby Dean is our News Nation correspondent to talking with 123 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.360 us about the signal chat stuff. You mentioned Judge Bosberg, 124 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:36.600 who we recognize from He's also the judge that's overseeing 125 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:42.680 the deportation of the Venezuelan alleged gang members to the 126 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:47.240 l Salvadorian prison. His rulings have not been favorable for 127 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.399 the Trump administration. Trump has called for him to be 128 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:52.279 impeached and now he gets assigned this case as well. 129 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:55.360 Does this give political fodder to claim which hunt. 130 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.160 Well, that's certainly what President Trump is doing and has 131 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:02.279 continued to do. But I mean, Boseburg has four cases 132 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:04.800 now related to the Trumpe administration, so that he's got 133 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:07.680 this signal group chat one the Alien Enemies Act to 134 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.199 one about the deportation flights as well as the subtle 135 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:14.480 grant funding freeze, a lot of details of that, and 136 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:18.279 then also DOGE records is what the other case relates to. 137 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.759 I will point out that, and this is actually how 138 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.319 Boseburg started the hearing yesterday which I listened in to. 139 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:26.839 I've listened into a few of these hearings with Boseburg. 140 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.399 That one about the immigration flights was incredibly tense, with 141 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:34.360 Department of Justice officials going back and tools with Boseburg 142 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:37.920 and Boseburg calling their response is disrespectful. That wasn't the 143 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.079 case during this hearing yesterday with Bosburg. It was certainly 144 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:43.839 more tame, and you weren't hearing from Department of Justicials 145 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:47.120 because he was just giving his order. But basically Boseburg 146 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:51.720 actually started out this hearing by specifying that the court 147 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:55.600 decides who gets assign these cases, and Boseburg isn't making 148 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:58.480 those decisions because that is where a lot of the blowback. 149 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.040 And I'm sure he's seen this pushback from the Trump 150 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.199 administration who's claiming that he's assigning himself these cases in 151 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:08.439 some form or fashion. But yeah, what ended up happening 152 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:13.959 there was basically this hearing and he told these intelligence 153 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:16.600 officials who were included in the chat, they need to 154 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:19.879 maintain these records. It was I believe March eleventh through 155 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:21.959 fourteenth that he had said, those are the dates that 156 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:25.439 you have to maintain these records. But what's interesting enough, 157 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:27.360 and I'm curious to fight out and I will be 158 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:31.879 asking intelligence officials about is there was on the Signal 159 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:34.000 chat because I'm very familiar with Signal, I've used it. 160 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.679 On the Signal chat, there was a one week dismissal 161 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.600 of when these would disappear. I mean we're at March 162 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:45.200 twenty eighth. I'm just curious what's still there. I mean, 163 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:48.159 of course Goldberg had the screenshots, but I just don't 164 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.600 know how that all works with the Signal platform. And 165 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:52.399 that's going to be something to look into as well. 166 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.320 Yeah, that's a great question. It's kind of like trying 167 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:58.799 to retrieve a snapchat once it's gone and are understanding 168 00:08:58.799 --> 00:08:59.480 is way right? 169 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.559 Save the messages? But how do we save them if 170 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:06.879 they're already gone? So that's a question. As this, I 171 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:09.440 mean developed last night, so something that's going to be 172 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.759 developing today I would watch for all right. 173 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:14.480 Let me Dan NewsNation White House Correspondent. Let me thank 174 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:17.960 you so much for your insight into that, say for 175 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:21.840 having me. Yeah, you bet. Of course I've told the 176 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:23.840 story before, but I don't think i've told on the 177 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:27.720 morning show, so I'm gonna do it again. First came 178 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:34.039 to California in twenty twelve and I rolled in. I 179 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.000 worked in San Diego and I rolled in. They were 180 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.559 putting me up at a resort, which was nice until 181 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.879 I got the tax bill on that that was fun. 182 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:44.039 So I roll up into this resort. It was February 183 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:48.799 the twentieth, I believe, And as I pull into this resort, 184 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:50.759 I had left. I was working in Kansas City, and 185 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.039 I left Kansas City. I pulled into this resort, you know, 186 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:57.639 drove a cross country pull in and as I'm driving 187 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:02.639 in in February, there's girls standing in the parking lot 188 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:06.639 in bikinis, and I thought, I'm never leaving California. This 189 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:09.759 is the most amazing thing ever. So I start working 190 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.399 at this radio station and great stations, still love it, 191 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:19.000 fantastic people there. And I hear about this high speed 192 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:23.000 rail project again. This is twenty twelve, so still in 193 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:26.039 the planning stages, and they said, well, you know, I 194 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:28.000 was given a little bit of the backstory and I 195 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.159 hadn't heard about it until then, and I'm giving the 196 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.240 backstory and they said, well, the voters approved this eight 197 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.080 billion dollars to go towards starting this high speed rail 198 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:39.240 and eventually it's going to run from the Bay Area 199 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:42.080 and eventually it'll go from the Bay Area all the 200 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:43.919 way to San Diego. But initially they want to get 201 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:48.159 it from Bay Area and Sacramento to Los Angeles. And 202 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:52.000 I thought, well, that sounds ambitious, and they said yeah, 203 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:58.080 and the the projections are already at I don't know 204 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:00.000 what it was at the time, twenty five billion dollar 205 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.960 something like that. So shortly after I get there, they go, uh, oh, 206 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.399 we're going to need more money. Projections are now up 207 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:10.440 to thirty billion or forty billion dollars whatever it was, 208 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:14.200 and I said, I've seen this play out before. I've 209 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:17.639 been fired from enough stations and enough cities to see 210 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:22.200 how government waste is ubiquitous. It is not a California problem. 211 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.279 It happens everywhere you have people. It's sort of like 212 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:28.399 when you go to a buffet and your eyes are 213 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.799 bigger than your stomach. That's what happens. When the politicians 214 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.080 get just an iota of power, they go, we want 215 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.559 to do this grand project, and they want to attach 216 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:40.720 their names to it. Right, So Governor Brown really wanted 217 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:42.360 to have this high speed rail. He says, this is 218 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:44.559 going to be great, and they all push for it. 219 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:46.919 And you had a bunch of the politicians and Sacramento 220 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:48.960 padding themselves in the back. This is going to be spectacular. 221 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.000 And I went, wait a minute. The voters approved eight 222 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.480 billion dollars. You're already up to forty or fifty billion dollars. 223 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:57.320 I said, you mark my words, this is gonna go 224 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:02.240 up to one hundred billion dollars. And what I didn't 225 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.639 realize is how wrong I was, because we blew past 226 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.120 one hundred billion dollars a long long time ago, long 227 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.360 time ago, and what do we have to show for it? 228 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.399 Raise your hand. If you have ridden the high speed 229 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:20.639 rail in California? Anybody, anybody? Anybody? Oh? Yeah, we are 230 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:23.200 well over the initial projections, and not a single person 231 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.559 has ever taken a single ride because there's no train 232 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:29.759 on any track. And yet the most Bruce Wayne looking 233 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:37.679 politician in history, our governor, Governor Batman, is now saying, oh, 234 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:40.480 it's on its way. Off we go. 235 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:42.559 As I say we did the railhead, we're starting to 236 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:45.279 lay track. This thing's starting to get very very real. 237 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:50.799 Is it though? You're starting to lay track? Well, good, 238 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.159 because you know you've gotten enough money and the projections 239 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:55.519 are already at one hundred and twenty five billion dollars, 240 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:58.240 and lord knows, we'd like to see something out of it. 241 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:02.879 But where we lay in track? Is it coming out 242 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:09.679 of the Bay Area? Is it somewhere in Riverside? No? No, 243 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.080 we've spent all this money on the easiest part thus far, 244 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:19.840 between Bakersfield and Mercet. But wait, there's more. CACRA had 245 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:20.759 the story. 246 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:25.039 Governor Kavin Newsom defending California's high speed rail project on 247 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:29.879 his latest podcast episode, released Wednesday morning. The project originally 248 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:31.879 pitched to voters in two thousand and eight, as a 249 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.559 bullet train between La to San Francisco is significantly short 250 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.639 on funds and nowhere near finished. 251 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.159 Yeah, it's barely started. 252 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.240 The state has so far spent about fourteen billion dollars 253 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:46.600 and needs more than double that just to finish the 254 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.720 first line between Merced and Bakersfield. 255 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:53.679 The first line across the easiest part where they had 256 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:57.639 to do the least amount of modifications to infrastructure, housing, zoning, 257 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:03.679 everything else across the central Valley has already bloomed up 258 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.960 to twenty eight billion dollars. Oh, this is this is 259 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:09.080 going to be tremendous. 260 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:12.200 The Trump administration is now reviewing the use of four 261 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:14.000 billion in federal funds so far. 262 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:18.480 Four billion. Oh, the fens got off easy on this one. 263 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.080 Finishing the full route between the Bay Area and southern 264 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:24.039 California needs at least one hundred billion dollars. 265 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:27.799 Yeah, Finishing the full route needs one hundred billion. But 266 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:32.759 we're spending twenty eight billion on the easiest part. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 267 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:36.039 no no. Most of that money has yet to materialize. Yeah, 268 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:36.759 I mean the end of. 269 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:40.080 The day, we've got these constraints that are well established already, 270 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.559 these pre existing constraints and there's not a high speed 271 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:45.600 railing system that's not enjoyed some popularity and success. Most 272 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:49.360 at least are wildly popular. It's an experienced no one's 273 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:52.000 had in the United States of America. At least we're 274 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:52.879 out there daring. 275 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:56.480 But some Democratic lawmakers during a hearing on the project 276 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:58.120 wednesday had different thoughts. 277 00:14:58.200 --> 00:14:58.840 Yeah, what are they say? 278 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:02.799 The definition of insn is doing the same thing over 279 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:04.879 and over again and expecting a different outcome. 280 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:06.919 I always love it when somebody tells me the definition 281 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:10.039 of insanity. Actually, if you look up the definition of insanity, 282 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:10.799 that's not it. 283 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:14.759 The high speed Rail had not yet submitted its annual report, 284 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:19.159 which irked Assembly members Wednesday. The state's Legislative Analysts Office 285 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:22.879 told lawmakers the project needs seven billion dollars by next 286 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:24.639 June in order to move forward. 287 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:27.879 Oh is that all just another seven billion? Or else 288 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:32.879 seven billion or else or else? What or else? Will 289 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:39.080 have wasted the other? No, this is a fallacy, This 290 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.120 is a sunk cost fallacy. Well, you've already spent eight billion, 291 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:47.000 or we've already spent fourteen billion. You better give us 292 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.879 another seven or I mean, that's just a waste of 293 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:53.679 the other fourteen or it's a waste of twenty one 294 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.360 billion total, because you're going to come back and say, well, 295 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:57.919 we got to have another ten billion, Well, we gotta 296 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:00.000 have another fifty billion, while we gotta have another hundred billion. 297 00:15:59.960 --> 00:16:02.360 We gotta have another two hundred and fifty billion dollars 298 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:06.799 and for what so that we can realize the dream 299 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:13.440 of Governor Choochu No stop. You got to know when 300 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:15.039 to hold them, you got to know when to fold them, 301 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:17.879 you got to know when to walk away, and in 302 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:22.240 this case, you got to run. We saw the protests 303 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:26.399 going on at southern California schools last year, as well 304 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.000 as a number of other universities across the country, and 305 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.759 now we're getting the crackdown. If you were protesting, you 306 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:37.720 are on alert. One student at Tufts University was surrounded 307 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:42.120 by plain clothed officers, cuffed and stuffed in a van. 308 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:44.639 Now I don't know about you, but if I had 309 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:48.799 a bunch of randos wearing hoodies and masks that threw 310 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:51.120 handcuffs on me, I would be pretty sure that I 311 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:54.240 was being kidnapped. Even if they flashed flashed a badge, 312 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:56.360 I'd go, you know what, I probably need to call 313 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.039 somebody and make sure that you are who you say 314 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:01.240 you are, just the same. That's what happened. AB Seniors 315 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:02.840 had the report, mister secretary. 316 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:06.920 A Turkish student in Boston was detained and handcuffed on 317 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:09.519 the street by playing clothes agents. A year ago, she 318 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:12.359 wrote an opinion piece about the gas of war. Could 319 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:17.000 you help us understand what the specific action she took 320 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.200 led to her visa being revoked? 321 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:21.079 This is Marco Rubio she's talking to. 322 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.480 And what was your state department's role in that process? 323 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.160 Or we revoked her visa? It's an F one visa. 324 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:29.519 I believe we revoked. 325 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:31.720 More like an FU visa. Am I right? Am? I? 326 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:36.640 We were voked it and here's why. And I'll say 327 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.920 it again. I said it everywhere. Me be abundantly clear. Okay, 328 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:41.079 if you go apply for a visa right now anywhere 329 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:43.200 in the world, let me just send this message out. 330 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:45.359 If you apply for a visa to enter the United 331 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:47.680 States and be a student, and you tell us that 332 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:50.160 the reason why you're coming to the United States is 333 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:52.039 not just because you want to write op eds, but 334 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.599 because you want to participate in movements that are involved 335 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:59.359 in doing things like vandalizing universities harassing students, taking over buildings, 336 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:01.759 creating a rock. We're not going to give you a visa. 337 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.200 Yeah, But did she and I don't know that she didn't. 338 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:10.440 But did she vandalize buildings and create a ruckus? Or 339 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:12.119 is this a guilt by association? Sitch? 340 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:14.759 If you lie to us and get a visa and 341 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.359 then enter the United States and with that visa participate 342 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.200 in that sort of activity, We're going to take away 343 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.359 your visa. And once you've lost your visa, Yeah, you're 344 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:24.200 no longer legally in the United States, And we have 345 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:25.960 a right, like every country in the world has a 346 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:28.319 right to remove you from our country. So it's just 347 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:28.880 that simple. 348 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:30.960 Did she commit a crime? 349 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:33.880 I think it's crazy. I think it's stupid for any 350 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:36.519 country in the world to welcome people into their country. 351 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:39.319 They're going to go to your universities as visitors. They're 352 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:40.920 visitors and say. 353 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:43.400 I'm going to your universities to start a riot. 354 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.559 Again, some people did riot. That would be ignorant for 355 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:54.480 me to argue otherwise, did this person were these students 356 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:59.519 who were committing the violence, the vandalism, that sort of thing. 357 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:04.480 Were they here on visus or are we just saying, well, 358 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:06.799 We can't really get them because they're US citizens. We 359 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.359 can get them for vandalism, but we can stick these 360 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.480 other people who were in the crowd, they were nearby, 361 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:17.240 guilt by association? Is there any evidence that this person 362 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:21.759 was pro terrorist? In fact, President Trump has said that 363 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:25.519 they're going to get the pro Hamas students out. Well, 364 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:31.039 can you be pro Palestinian without being pro Hamas? See, 365 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:34.680 that's the nuance that were very bad as a society 366 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:38.680 of understanding, and politicians know that. So what they want 367 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:39.759 to do is they want to paint this as a 368 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:42.200 binary choice. You're with us or you're against us and 369 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:45.559 we're with Israel. And if you're not with us with Israel, 370 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.440 then you are against us and you're with the terrorists. 371 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:54.559 And yet, is it possible? It's mind blowing here, Is 372 00:19:54.599 --> 00:20:00.480 it possible you could be pro not war, pro Palacetian 373 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:04.519 and not be pro terrorists? Can you be pro United 374 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:09.039 States and still think that Israel went too far with 375 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:13.079 bombing rates. I'm not saying they did or they didn't. 376 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:15.440 I'm saying can you have that opinion and not be 377 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:19.240 un American? Or do we need to have some sort 378 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:23.079 of a committee on Unamerican activities? Maybe that's what we 379 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:26.079 ought to do. No one's ever tried that before in 380 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:31.119 this country. Oh, that's right, we did with the communist thing, 381 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:33.799 but that was in the Listen. That was a long 382 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:36.319 time ago. That was a mistake we made back in 383 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:38.680 the fifties when we did the whole Red Scare and 384 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:42.480 we were hunting for communists. We've evolved since then. We 385 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:46.119 are no longer the same country that just says are 386 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:48.720 you a communist? And if you are, there's going to 387 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:51.000 be hell to pay. We don't do that any longer. 388 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.240 Have you ever been associated or affiliated with the Chinese 389 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:53.880 Communist Party? 390 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:56.240 Oh crap, that was Josh Hawley. He was talking with 391 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:59.279 the TikTok guy. I guess we are still doing the 392 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:02.279 same thing, are you now or have you ever been 393 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:06.119 associated with Hamas? And even if the answer is no, 394 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:09.880 we're still going to deport you. But that's what we 395 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:12.799 can do, and we're very proud of it. It's not 396 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:16.079 just a toughs also happen at Alabama. ABC's Eric Katursky 397 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:16.640 was talking. 398 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:19.880 About that welcome back. Officials say federal immigration agents have 399 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:23.680 detained a University of Alabama doctoral student who is a 400 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:27.119 citizen of Iran. The student is currently being held in 401 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:31.440