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I said Mark, I found my notebook from back to
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it's interesting, that's a lot. That's a long time ago.
This is my tenth year. So yeah, pretty amazing. Anyway,
for those of you who happened to catch yesterday, it
was just a great, great show. We stayed on for
way loggers had thirty minutes and he's you know, I
always tell people to look at this guy who is
so large and physically large, you know, former mister everything,
you know it, you name it. He was there on
the glad Etors. He was tightened. Anyway, his steph how
you doing, Stephanie. You missed it last week. But anyway,
he's such a great guy. As you can see, he's
so warm, he's he's he's he's very welcoming. As I
told you, he actually he actually changed his plans to
come back and be here on Sunday because he was
supposed to come back Sunday night. And I told him, bumber,
you know, Mike, it would have been great. I was.
I wanted to have any and and he like, he said, no, no,
we're coming, We're coming. His wife Modai here the background guard.
Tell him we'll be there, tell him we'll be there.
So that's the kind of guy he is. And it
was a great show. And as you can tell just
from spending a half hour forty five minuts or probably
an hour with us last week, he is such an
animal lover. But dogs is about He is so crazy
about his dogs, and you know, talking about his past dogs,
talking about what's going on with Panda, one of his
dogs now and basically it brings him to tears. And
that's the kind of guy he is, and he from
the minute I met him. He came in I mean
many many years ago, and he's been that great kind
of guy. So anyway, for those of you who saw
the show, I'm thrilled. You know, we we I sent
the tape out. We have it on tape and it's
going to be also on my podcast, the recorded episodes.
But regardless, super super terrific guy. So this week I
had a you know, I don't get a lot of
emergency surgeries, but this week I got two back to back.
So on Thursday, one of my neighbors is literally three
houses down the street with this magnificent two year old
giant Schnauzer and dog's name is Tipper Bargain. It sits
down on a balcony and barks as the world go by.
He sees me, he like jumps up by. He said, no,
it's two stories. I don't don't jump. He's really sets
a sweet dog. Anyway, he was dribbling blood, and so
that can mean a lot of things. Now in a
dog gets intact male. The number one reason for dripping
blood like that is from prostate prostatitis. Prostatic hyperplasia and
or prostatic infection. But he was neutered already. Neuterer dogs
don't usually get that well, how about playing with other dogs?
Maybe actually a bite right there on the tip of
the you know what, and he's he's all by himself.
He doesn't go playing these in these environments. So lastly,
he is a Schnauzer and they are known for hibbee
they are known for their potential flatterstones two year old dogs.
So I took a picture. I'm this you can see
it on Instagram. He must have had twenty or thirty
stones in that bladder, and no wonder why he was
he was urinating blood because it was it was so sad.
So there's no way that those are going to pass.
They were just way too big. So sure enough we
had to go in surgically do what's called this istotomy,
open them up, take out the stones, flush him, reverse,
flush him from the opening in the bladder, pushing out
so any stones that were in the urethrut going through,
we would push them back into the bladder so I
can grab them and remove them. Then we passed catheters
both ways from the bladder out and from out into
the bladder and no obstructions. Everything was nice and smooth,
so anyway, he's doing great. Next one is also a
fairly young dog, a gorgeous yellow Labrador named Prince, and
he came in on Wednesday, subtly. Adr now ain't doing right. Now.
You have to know this dog already had surgery for
eating I think it was a sock that was a big
sport athletic socks. He's crazy. He's a labrador, and Labradors,
as you know, will eat anything that's not bolted down
or doesn't eat them first. So here we are and
I'm waving. I'm waving, waving, so anyway, here we are,
and I'm saying, okay, let's take an X ray some
gas pockege. It wasn't the classic blockage picture, so I said,
we'll get our fluids. Well, we'll give him something to soften,
like to help move things through and hopefully whatever it was,
if it was, eat something ate and I grill the owner.
Is it any way he got into anything? No, no, no.
After the cinse oflat we watch him like a hawk,
et cetera, et cetera. Okay, ps comes back that night,
he goes to a emergency he's worried. They do an
autra Saturday. I also agree that it's not crystal clear,
but this dog probably is blocked. He wasn't eating. When
a labrador doesn't eat, you know there's something going on.
So anyway, sure enough, they weren't going to do it
that night, Thursday night, so I said, no, you know
I'm gonna do it, so come in Friday. It comes
in Friday. We did it yesterday, excuse me, two days ago.
And it was a We're going through the intestine and
from the stomach, and you work all the way, you
just got to go loop bloom. It's pretty long set
with thirty feet anyway, so we finally get to get
to this big blot thing. It kind of soft, but
you can see dead stop, dead stop in the the
small intestine. So and the rest of the intestine is
all swollen and irritated. As this thing was trying to
push through. You can see it was just wreaking havoc. Anyway,
so I cut just behind it. You know, you want, ideally,
when you're doing testinal surgery, you don't want to cut
right where the intestine is all in flame. You want
to try to get it where it's not so in flame.
So you do it sor at the very end of it,
depending on which direction it's going, so where the tissue
is still normal. We pushed squeeze this thing out and
is it looks like a big you know, for a
lack of a better term, turn, but it didn't feel
like it. So anyway, remove it. We go ahead. We
close up the test and we flushed the bladder. We
close him up, and then I after surgery, I start
running this thing underwater. What the heck is it? So
it is a little stuffed toy. It looked like it's
like this big looks like a bear. You could see
the nose, you could see the eyes, one ear, the
other ear is there anymore? One of the legs is there,
the other one is not there anymore anyway, So I'm shocked.
I really think, how the heck this guy he was
his kids? Where did this come from? So I asked,
I said, I told him one it was where he
found And I said, I said that, but it was
a little kids, like a little stuffed teddy bear or something.
He goes, oh, yeah, I got that for him. You
what you actually gave your Labrador retriever? I think this
big and you expect him to play with this well,
because that was the most expensive stuff, little toy hea
it And by the way, hey la pet care, how
you doing, Lauren? So anyway that when you think about it,
that toy. I'm not going to tell you what he
was quoted at one of the big hospital's hospital chain
that owns a zillion hospitals in the country, and it's
three letters. I'm not going to tell you because you
already know what I'm talking about. Fourteen thousand dollars they
quoted him. That's insane. Fourteen thousand dollars for that surgery.
It was not it was half, not even half that.
It is totally crazy. So anyway, O can I tell
you if you if you can get a second opinion,
even on a special Yeah. And the problem is is
that this hospital chain has some really great doctors, some
of the best. In fact, the guy that comes and
does my heavy duty endoscopy and ultrasounds is formally from
this group and he's on his own now he's going
doing mobile which is great for him though overhead, Oh
it's it's phenomenal. He's fantastic. Look, he was he was
trained there, he was there he went to Davis. So
they have good doctors, but it's so corporate. And when
things get so corporate, there's one focus when it comes
to corporate medicine, and that is what anybody raise hands profit.
It's all about the profit. And it's so annoying to
me because there's no reason that these things should be
as expensive as they are. I do them. I know
what it takes, I know the equipment that goes, I
know the training. It's it's that's highway robbery. And yet
you know they have a big name, they're number one. Uh.
They have more hospitals, more than and then any private,
any privately held or publicly health chain in the world.
So they feel they can do anything they want. And
it's just drives me nuts anyway. So just a word
from the from the wise. Sometimes wise is is ask around,
get tech opinions, talk to other specialists. If you could
find like a place that has an independent doctor or
there are a couple of places here in La now.
Two of my very good friends are birth both board
certified surgeons. They have their own place and they are
so much more reasonable, so because they don't have to
prove to any large corporate parent that their acquisition was
worth their money. And that's exactly what's going on. So
it's crazy. So we had a question here from Shannon.
Can you give your opinions on coyotes? Has been a
sick mangray senior coyote in Brentwood since the fires follow
many times say oh wow, you know that is a
really good question, and we have I have not encountered that.
Oh boy, you said. I mean you can try calling
one of the city animal rescues they have animal control
of I know West La has an l a city
animal control and see what they can do. There were
some places that specialize in wild animals, wildlife way station
for one. I don't know if they're still a business.
Wildlife way station and see if they can do something. Uh,
you know, it's not afraid. On the one hand, as
a as an animal lover, you want to at least
feed them, give them something. So you could maybe give
get some doxy cycling and put it in some food
and and and uh feed feed the feeder. I mean,
is it's scary. And on the other side of the coin, though,
is you have we have the where I live in
Beverly Wood, there's something called Circle Park, those of you
who know they're with the area no Circle Park. So
one of my good friends also uh a client, was
walking his gorgeous golden retriever early early in the morning
and there were two cats that were literally mangled. He said,
it was the most horrific scene and obviously probably coyote
got to them, and he said, I only hoped that
somebody would come and clean it the mess up before
moms started going into COVID where they do all every
day going into the park with their kids, especially now
during the summer. So oh my god. So look, they
are in survival mode, especially after the fires because it
took a lot of their protective territory away. So now
they're coming down, spending more time down, and we call
the flats and it is definitely a scary, scary problem.
So but I would call it. Try to get a
hold of any of those places that would do wild
animal rescues and or just the city animal control. I mean,
most likely city animal control is going to catch it
and put it to sleep. That's my hunch, especially if
it's not well, and me, look, it could be also
could be dangerous if it's not well, dangerous to even people,
depending on if it has a disease we just don't know,
or is it just starvation. Speaking of animal control, we
had this dog running around my hospital Friday and a
pitbull that was very very friendly, so friendly that when
you called it over, it came and it was wearing
a choke chain. And that's it. No leash, no id tag,
just a choke chain. So we took an inside. The
first time we did is scan it for microchip. No microchip,
So the next thing you do. I talk to one
of our rescues that does a lot of pities and
she recommended, why don't you just see if it's dog
aggressive because that makes a big difference. So for them,
you know, will they take a pity in that is
dog aggressive when there are so many that they have
already that are in foster tried to place that are
not dog aggressive, and typically the fate of one such
dog is they put them to sleep. Anyway, I walk
a dog ride munification. The dog went ballistic. Oh my god,
that's terrible. But he's so sweet all I mean, really
crazy sweet dog jumps up my new major, licking his tail,
is wagging up my eye. Limited he loves people. So
what do I do. There's a rule that that I
didn't want to. You know, I put a good I
didn't want to put him a sleep period. So but
what do you do? My hospital is closed on the weekends.
I have nobody there. I already you know, I kept
him the first night, but I couldn't keep him any
of Friday night were closed. We were closed and gone
until Monday morning. So that wouldn't work. So I called
basically the local animal shelter. We have a sister hospital
called Shelter Vet that is literally right next door part
of the West La Animal Shelter. That's why they call
it Shelter Vet. So anyway, in fact, my good friend
doctor Garry Adams, who I wanted to come join me
at Value Vet. He he became the veterinarian there. So anyway,
I took the dog in and told him what happened,
and they see this dog and he's so sweet that
they said, no, we're gonna we're gonna take keep them.
Will work with our trainer, we'll see what we can
and uh, you know, get him to so like these
animals better. And that was it. So I dropped them
off there. And that was so cool because they I
was so happy that they that they really really wanted
this dog. They felt that they could work with him,
So that was super cool. Yeah, my sister says, Wildlife
Way Station is clothed. I don't know if any of
you help us here, If any of you know any
of those there used to be there was Shambala that
was Tippy Hedron's place. Uh, you know, they might take
in some wild stray animals. Look at look that one
up Shambala and it's in It's in southern California. It's uh,
I think the Gory Hills or someplace like that. It's
it's maybe an hour drive. It's not that bad and
it's a really cool facility. So anyway, we got to
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Speaker 1: All right, so we're back live. So the first of all,
you saw that about a the it's called Wildcare Southern
California website. Try that, okay, thank you, Mi cloud Chaser.
And then hello, share Sharon, how are you okay? Okay?
If I have a cat that inherited I had with
my marriage two years ago, and I'm waiting for more,
tell me about the cat some odd stuff, okay, all right,
so before we go. Oh and my sister just sent
her a wildlife list. Okay, Jill, I don't see it here. Okay. Anyway,
let's go back to the vomiting and the ASP rating.
So yes, it's very possible. So anyho. First of all,
two things, Number one, mild the most yes can sound
just like kennel cough. Okay, and many of us when
we have a dog, comes from that kind of environment.
Or if it looks like a duck, walks like a
duck cocks, it's probably a duck, comes from a shelter,
it comes to a rescue group acting fine, Everything is
perfectly except that coughin you were just assuming it's kennel cough. Knows,
we don't always because of these are a lot of
times these are rescue dogs. We don't always sit and
spend the rescue money and take X rays. We listen
to the chest. If it sounds okay, the dog is happy,
and every other way except for this dry, hacky, non
productive cough, we treat as kennel cough. Now, could it
have been a mild pneumonia and because of that it
was just getting worse, then the answer is yes. Another
thing is if it does started vomiting for whatever reason,
then could havevasperated and then it became a pneumonia. So
they're all possibilities. I mean, the first thing you do first,
you're gonna treat it almost the same, many the same antibiotics.
Doxy psyching works great, klavimox works great, some of the
anerophoxysins work. And but you want this, I mean, you
got to take an extray so when we have something
that we start treating for something simple because we suspect
it to be simple, but it doesn't respond, then yes,
you gotta take the next diagnostic step and in this
case it would be X ray and then you would
see the pneumonia and then treat accordingly. If it gets
really really bad. There there are well, first of all,
there are some tests you can do to test the bugs.
But uh, you know, if there's something some aspiration or
something comes up, you can if it could be cultured,
there's something we should do is transtrate your wash and
that is put some uh fluid sailing steril sailing down
into the lungs, rot them off, started coughing, catch some
of that, beute them and uh and then test that.
So but there are a lot of times mostly we're
just going to try some heavy duty antibotics. So to
your so some of I don't know if you were
going to ask more about the cat that you is
everything okay with the cat that you inherited college some
of the senior dogs to add to okay, So you know,
most of the joint supplements have some sort of ps
g G A t in it polysulfated glycosymino glycans, which
is good for collagen. So I don't I don't have
any particular separate medicine or supplement for just the collagen.
Most of as they said, most of the joint supments
out there are are going to be health, are going
to promote healthy joint And again I'm being really honest.
There have been studies where they followed with X ray
groups of dogs that had symptoms and had were put
on these medications these supplements, and groups that were not,
and they follow them with X ray. And there are
two issues that are interesting. Number one, the x rays
showed no difference. But when you when the clients filled
out their reports, their poll if you will, the vast
majority did see improvement on the dogs that were given
the supplement. It is interesting because there was no radiographic difference,
but a lot of the opponents all right then from
this study said you won't be able to really tell
an X ray anyway. What they should have done, of course,
it would have been way more expensive, is not X ray.
They should have followed up with MRIs because the MRIs
would have given much more detail to see is actually
the joint surface being improved? By these medications. I don't
know if one such study has been done yet, but
it's interesting that despite the fact that there was no
radiographic improvement, the owners of the dogs in the statistically
significant number of owners in the group that did receive
the real thing and not the placebo did say that
their dogs were doing better either way. It was double blind,
so nobody knew what their dog was getting, except obviously
the people putting on the study. So anyway, I thought
that was very interesting. Okay, three dogs, hold on, I'm
getting to another one, and I just we can train
a prey drive hold on who we see unless she
doesn't get the rumor away a lot of the air.
And that's right. And yeah, that's a comment that a
lot of these dogs. In fact, that's why I never
liked especially more recently recently, in the last fifteen to
twenty years, I hated the term kennel cough because kennel
cough so many people don't kennel their dogs, but they
go to the dog park, they go doggy daycare. They
do this, they meet dogs in them and on the
street they walk the dogs with their friends. It's live
in La cough. Go to the dog Park. Cough, go
to Third Street Promenade cough, go to the groomer cough,
go to the bad cough. It's everywhere. Go to Broade
or Drive and Bemberley Drive cough. Wherever you take your dogs.
Trust me, other people are taking their dogs. And that
other dog does go to running cagon, does go to
the dog park, does go to Beverley Drive. So you
think that you're safe. No, So when do some people
say should we get them? I don't need that border
tello the influence vaccine because I don't go to those places.
You don't does you don't ever go outside because if
it does, you want to, you want to get the shot.
So just that's it is airborne. That's a great point,
thank you, and they pick up that way too. Anyway,
we can train a prey drive dogs that had no
pay attention to offering a treat while they're watching a
cat their main prey driven. Is that true? Well, I
would say there are ways to do it, and you
the goal is to try to associate that negative sign,
which is in this case that aggression towards say a cat,
and so they have that prey drive turn it into
something positive that every time he sees a cat. Okay,
you're going after him to sit, and he gets reward
for not not going after he's got to sit and
stay and you get to treat. So you don't want it.
That's important. You don't want to have them continue to drive. Now,
sometimes at the beginning of any of these you may
have to there's my phone, of course, the day I
forget to unplug it. So the most important thing is
that you may need at the beginning. I hate to
do this long term and for the entire course of training,
but at the very beginning to bring them down. You
want to talk to your trainer or talk to your veterinarian.
You may want to give them something like a trasidone
like a xanax, even something as simple as a banadrill,
just something to or if you really will stay natural.
I have a product called Chill. It may not be
strong enough to fight this prey drive, but it just
brings them down a level to the point where you
can actually work with them. It slows that brain down
that kill prey drive. So but no, it's it's not easy,
but it can be done. And I know this pitball,
for example, and I brought it in to the shelter
right away. They said, well, we'll get it to one
of the trainers they work with and we'll work on
that drive. Another thing that's also important. Sometimes these dogs
behave differently whether they're in a cage or on leash
with you, because they are there either protecting their domain,
which is their cage, or they're protecting you. If they're
on the other end, you're on the other end of
the leash. So sometimes you're going to get them in
an environment where there's running around, no leashes, no confinement,
and they're truly playing with other dogs. A lot of
these dogs that were thought to be hopeless take them
to a dog park and they are having a blast.
So that's something that can be also trained out of them.
But you want to work with a trainer, all right, Jane,
you have a request, if it's truly a request. I
kind of deep tooth cleaning months ago, and I want more. Oh,
she keeps rubbing each ear on the carpings. What do
you do? Well, obviously if she is if she's rubbing
an ear, it may not be directly directed of too.
Have you got to have the ears checked? Clean them out? Well?
How somebody have your veterinarian, look down the ear canal,
make sure that the canal is clean, make sure the
ear drum is intact, and make sure that you're dealing
with not a tooth problem. Ifecially the teeth were just
done and they still look great, but now it sounds
like you're dealing with an ear problem. So totally it's
very important to have that. Okay, have that taken care
of all right, Lana, how are you okay? So yeah,
it's I mean, oh, by the way, it also could
be a tooth still. And now again maybe you think
that he's rubbing it the ear, but in fact rubbing
it the too. So again, even though the teeth were cleaned,
it would be wise to check way back there. And
so another thing. A lot of times when we do
these teeth, if they look good and it seems like
a basic teeth cleaning, we don't always do dental X rays.
A lot of times the clients don't want it looks
more a little more expensive, So we do. We clean
the teeth, and we may need in a case like
this where they it looks good on the outside but
there seems to be some discomfort, then I would highly
recommend doing dental rats as well. All right, let me
how you doing. And as we're interested, you say some
hot stuff about doesn't care about the treat. Uh, that's
the kind of the animal that may need a little,
you know, a little sedation just to start working with them.
It is interesting. Yeah, I mean, I'm not so sure
that it's impossible, but I mean some some dogs. I mean,
look interestingly, my my dogs. I have five, I have
four cats. When depending on what they're coming, they're near
each other. For when I let my dogs out, for example,
take them out in the morning, all right, and they
will pass by one of my cats and the friends here,
who's the crazy one will walk right by nothing, not
even a concern. But come feeding time, when I let
him into the kitchen, if some of them, I have
to separate my dogs when they eat. Somebody eat in
the kitchen summer outside the backyard. So when he comes
in the kitchen, knowing he's eating, he will go nuts
if he sees one of the cats, in other words,
go to dare touch my food. And then they don't
even care about his food. But he sees that. So
that's why when these dogs have this drive, this this
prey drive, it can be circumstantial. We don't always know
what are the circumstances that this is going on, so
it's it might be wise to devil a little deeper
into it, all right, Lily kendlcough faction week given though
she doesn't go to the groom or oh yeah, no,
it's it's very important to know that the kennel cough vaccine.
Don't call it cantle cough vaccine, call it bordotella, call
it influenzaut airborne, airborne. Remember that. So okay, oh throughout
the day. Okay, poor cat? No, all right, let's see.
I think I think we're good. Any of the last
questions before we go giving up chance, ask it question?
If not, as you know, a lot of waste to
get a hold of me. You can get a hold
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jeffredoctor Jeff dot com. If you have an emergency, something
that you think is an emergency, knowing how expensive and
absurd the emergency clinics are. I, as you know, I'm
Chief Federal Officer co f Added Air Vet with my
son Brandon, who is just doing an amazing job with
air Vet and I've done thousands, literally, I have over
four thousand virtual visions I have sent I think maybe
maybe one hundred and fifty to emergency. That's how infrequent
these emergencies are. Act the emergencies that you can't do
something first, and it's it's amazing. So don't always panic
when you call your veterinarian and the nighttime emergency message says, HI,
thanks for calling. If you have an emergency, go to
something such amergency clinic. No, try getting doing air vets
something first because most ninety ninety five percent of time
those are not emergencies that can wait. You'll get some
suggestions and you see your regular doctor in the next morning,
the next day, and it would be a third a
quarter of literally a fraction of the price. So anyway,
and you'll be working with somebody that you know and
you trust, so it's a big difference. Anyway, any questions
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you have, I can guarantee other pet parents are either
having it or have had it and will have it
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