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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome back to the show. I got a
Speaker 3: real treat for you today. We are diving balls deep
Speaker 3: into the Menindas Brothers. No pun intended, So I talked
Speaker 3: about them briefly in my Program to Kill series before
Speaker 3: the Netflix show Monsters even came out. Okay, I was
Speaker 3: already talking about them, and I didn't feel like I
Speaker 3: needed to watch the show when it dropped at the
Speaker 3: time because I had already spoken about them before, and
Speaker 3: quite honestly, it just didn't look like it was that
Speaker 3: captivating to me. But after I finished the ed Geean
Speaker 3: Monster and expanded on all the stuff they got wrong,
Speaker 3: Colby and I talked about it, and you know, some
Speaker 3: spices were added, and since I already watched the Dahmer months,
Speaker 3: I was curious to see what direction Ryan Murphy chose
Speaker 3: to go for the Menindez brothers because I know how
Speaker 3: I feel about it. I had already looked into it before.
Speaker 3: But you know, there are a lot of mixed opinions
Speaker 3: about these two. And I actually remember receiving an email
Speaker 3: from a listener asking me to dive deep into this case.
Speaker 3: But again, at the time, I thought I had already
Speaker 3: discussed enough in program to kill and could just move on.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. After watching the Netflix show, I
Speaker 3: got sucked in and pulled into a total rabbit hole
Speaker 3: and it had me shook. Okay, so we're gonna bring
Speaker 3: the cosmic fire to this little investigation into the truth
Speaker 3: about the Menindez brothers, and I can't wait to go
Speaker 3: on this ride with you. Okay, we're gonna be looking
Speaker 3: at the show monsters, of course, we're going to be
Speaker 3: looking at the actual trial footage quite a bit, and
Speaker 3: we're going to be listening to experts and psychologists who
Speaker 3: have studied their body language and their facial expressions to
Speaker 3: determine if the Menindaz brothers were acting on the stand
Speaker 3: or if their testimony is genuine. But before we dive
Speaker 3: right into the biscuits and gravy. If you have not
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Speaker 3: a two parter, and the videos are going to be
Speaker 3: integral to the investigation. The visuals during the actual trial
Speaker 3: are going to be a vital part of what we
Speaker 3: will be discussing today. And if there is a part two,
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Speaker 2: So now.
Speaker 3: Let's get freaky. All right, we're gonna get started. Let's
Speaker 3: get some background shit out of the way. I'm sure
Speaker 3: you may be familiar with this case already, but on
Speaker 3: the off chance that this is the first time you're
Speaker 3: hearing about them, let's just start with the basics. Joseph
Speaker 3: Lyle Menindez and Eric Galen Menindez, our brothers, convey did
Speaker 3: of killing their parents, jose and Kitty Menindez in their
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills home in nineteen eighty nine. Right following the murders,
Speaker 3: Lyle and Eric claimed that unknown intruders were responsible for
Speaker 3: the murders, framing it as a potential mob killing. Police
Speaker 3: initially investigated this claim, but grew suspicious when they discovered
Speaker 3: the brother's extravagant spending spreez following the murders, and the
Speaker 3: fact that they had hired a computer expert to delete
Speaker 3: their father's recently updated will. Eric ultimately ended up confessing
Speaker 3: to the murders in sessions with his psychiatrists, citing a
Speaker 3: desire to be free of a controlling father with high standards,
Speaker 3: among other things that we'll get into, which led to
Speaker 3: the arrest of Lyle and Eric months later. Seems pretty
Speaker 3: cut and dry, but oh no, no, sir, it is
Speaker 3: not okay. But let's look at the murders, okay. On
Speaker 3: the evening of August twentieth, nineteen eighty nine, Jose and
Speaker 3: Kitty Menindez were watching some TV in the theater den
Speaker 3: of their Beverly Hills mansion when Lyle and Eric entered
Speaker 3: carrying loaded shotguns. Jose was shot six times, his face
Speaker 3: was literally blown off. Kitty was shot ten times before
Speaker 3: the fatal shot to her cheek. Kitty was on the
Speaker 3: floor crawling away. Lyle ran back out to the car,
Speaker 3: where Eric handed him ammunition to reload before re entering
Speaker 3: the house and firing the fatal shot to her face. Now,
Speaker 3: immediately after the killings, both brothers remained in the house
Speaker 3: for a few minutes, expecting a police response to the
Speaker 3: gunshot noise. When no one showed up, they left to
Speaker 3: dispose of their blood stained clothes and later buried the
Speaker 3: shotguns somewhere along Mholland Drive adjacent the Laurel Canyon. But
Speaker 3: that's far from the only eyebrow raising fact in this case.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the two scenarios here. Some people believe
Speaker 3: Eric and Lyle were spoiled candy ass ridge boys who
Speaker 3: murdered their parents for their money, and they made up
Speaker 3: the abuse excuse quote unquote to try and get off
Speaker 3: on the murders, and apparently, according to the Netflix show Monsters,
Speaker 3: they were also huge Milli Vanilli fans. Now, the other
Speaker 3: scenario is that Eric came to his brother Lyle in
Speaker 3: a desperate plea for help to end the disgusting, absolutely depraved,
Speaker 3: putrefied sex acts his father was torturing him with since
Speaker 3: he was six years old. And turns out Lyle also
Speaker 3: endured these same sex acts by his father, and the
Speaker 3: boys had never discussed this until adulthood. But you know
Speaker 3: who did know and didn't lift a finger to help
Speaker 3: either of them, their own fucking mother, Kitty Menindez. So
Speaker 3: they loaded up two shotguns and blew the faces off
Speaker 3: the two people who had literally participated in some of
Speaker 3: the worst satanic ritual abuse I've ever heard of. And
Speaker 3: of course, if you're anything like my husband, there is
Speaker 3: a third option, which is this is all faking, staged
Speaker 3: and hey, no judgments if you think that I personally
Speaker 3: am not a subscriber to that theory, but if you are,
Speaker 3: that's fine. Just keep an open mind as we moved
Speaker 3: through this presentation. So let's talk about the data a
Speaker 3: little bit, okay. Jose Mendez became an executive at the
Speaker 3: Hertz Corporation in later RCA records. After that, he was
Speaker 3: appointed as the CEO of Live Entertainment some kind of
Speaker 3: film studio, video distributor whatever. So Jose Menindez also oversaw
Speaker 3: a majority of Hall and fucking Oates hit records. He
Speaker 3: signed the boy band Menudo and in the show Monsters,
Speaker 3: he is compared to being as influential as Spielberg. But
Speaker 3: it was all behind the scenes and no one knew
Speaker 3: he was the man behind the curtain. Oh and apparently
Speaker 3: comes from Cuban royalty quote unquote, and the Menendez family
Speaker 3: were literally the elites of Cuba. Now think about this.
Speaker 3: What do we know about people at Jose Menendez level
Speaker 3: in Hollywood and the entertainment industry. What do we know
Speaker 3: about elite families Cuban or not? Think about it. I'll
Speaker 3: give you a minute. If you said Satan worshiping pedophilia,
Speaker 3: you are correct, ding ding. So this isn't a random
Speaker 3: case of child abuse, all right, And astonishingly, to me,
Speaker 3: this is why people the validity of the case because
Speaker 3: they were millionaires living in Beverly Hills, and the Menendez
Speaker 3: brothers literally wanted for nothing, and after their parents' death,
Speaker 3: the Menindez brothers went balls to the wall, buying cars, rolexes,
Speaker 3: diamond and crusted butt plugs or whatever the fuck they did. Now,
Speaker 3: counter intuitively, to me, the argument is that these murders
Speaker 3: were for money and the abuses made up because rich
Speaker 3: executive elite CEOs and music moguls don't rape their sons.
Speaker 3: That's preposterous, Okay, Well for me, it's like a fucking course.
Speaker 3: Jose Menendez was going balls deep in both of his sons. Okay,
Speaker 3: of course he was. And let me tell you something,
Speaker 3: if half of what these boys described actually happened to them.
Speaker 3: They didn't spend enough fucking money. Okay. They didn't buy
Speaker 3: enough cars, they didn't throw enough house parties, they didn't
Speaker 3: go on enough vacations or shopping sprees to make up
Speaker 3: for the fucked up life of pure heinous torture they endured.
Speaker 3: And you know what, they didn't even shoot their parents enough.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: There is a scene in True Detective Season one Matthew
Speaker 3: McConaughey and he's talking about what would happen if he
Speaker 3: got busted and some kind of they would torture him
Speaker 3: and kill him and whatever. I'm gonna be talking about
Speaker 3: True Detective in an upcoming episode, hopefully with William Ramsey.
Speaker 3: We'll see, but I want to include a snippet of
Speaker 3: what I would do. I mean, the Beninda's brothers just
Speaker 3: it was quick and dirty. They shot him in the
Speaker 3: face and moved on. Well, kitty kind of hung on
Speaker 3: for lot dear life, and she had to get a
Speaker 3: couple extra blows. But it was quick and dirty, right,
Speaker 3: They just got it out of the way. This is
Speaker 3: what I would do if I were to ever find
Speaker 3: out that someone laid a hand on either of my boys.
Speaker 3: This is what would happen to them.
Speaker 2: There's a cartel that worked on the border. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: this routine and Duff take you to the chair and
Speaker 2: was bolted to the floor. You couple of rolls, make
Speaker 2: sure you couldn't budge a fucking inch, and then we
Speaker 2: cut around your face, grip your scalp, yank down, rip
Speaker 2: your face off, and they put a mirror in front
Speaker 2: of you. She used to get a good look at yourself.
Speaker 2: They cut your dick and your balls off, shove them
Speaker 2: down here, your throat to your blood, and choke down
Speaker 2: while you're watching.
Speaker 3: So you know, people think, oh, you wouldn't do that,
Speaker 3: You wouldn't be capable. I would absolutely.
Speaker 1: Do that and more.
Speaker 3: It would be like fucking law abiding citizen up in
Speaker 3: this bitch if I were to ever find out some
Speaker 3: shit like that was going on. Now, how many bee
Speaker 3: hole rapes from your dad? Is a Gucci sweater? Worth
Speaker 3: to you. Okay, People get hung up on the shopping
Speaker 3: spree after the murders, and to me, that's the wrong
Speaker 3: fucking part to focus on, because call me crazy, but
Speaker 3: a Gucci sweater and a Rolex is worth zero. Dad
Speaker 3: ass rapes to me.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Do you think if Doc Brown screeched up in the
Speaker 3: Dolorean and was like, come on, Lyle and Eric, We're
Speaker 3: gonna go back in time and make it so your
Speaker 3: mom gives you guys up for adoption and a nice
Speaker 3: middle class family raises you guys, and the only burning
Speaker 3: sensation your bee hole will ever know is from the
Speaker 3: occasional hot taco bell diarrhea. Do you think for a
Speaker 3: second that they wouldn't have traded Listen, I've talked to
Speaker 3: you guys extensively about the depravity that goes on in
Speaker 3: the entertainment industry and these upper echelon pedo pieces of shit.
Speaker 3: Imagine having Spielberg as your dad. Okay, and let's not
Speaker 3: forget since I brought up the Laurel Canyon earlier. John
Speaker 3: Phillips from the Mamas and the Papas engaged in a
Speaker 3: ten year in sestuous sexual relationship with his daughter Mackenzie,
Speaker 3: different decade, but right down the street from the Menindaz Brothers. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is a cultural thing. They be doing this shit.
Speaker 3: This is rich people, fun time raping your kids. So
Speaker 3: we're going to now listen and view some of my
Speaker 3: personal favorite parts of the trial, the parts that I
Speaker 3: feel are important to hear and see. This is going
Speaker 3: to be a lengthy segment of this episode, and we
Speaker 3: may have to break this up into a couple parts,
Speaker 3: but let's get started and then we can dissect the
Speaker 3: shit together and watch it with my commentary. Okay, and
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Speaker 3: about to hear and the discussion we're about to have
Speaker 3: is extremely graphic and fucked up. Only those Cosmic Peach
Speaker 3: listeners true of heart may continue beyond this point. With
Speaker 3: that being said, let's queue up the first clip.
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