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<v Speaker 1>Baby, you're a gamester too. It takes a lot of tangle.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to mess with me, mess with me

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<v Speaker 1>baby a GANGSTERA tou.

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<v Speaker 2>Ouch baby on a gamester too.

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<v Speaker 1>For good warnings, this podcast is designed to take you

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<v Speaker 1>outside of your comfort.

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<v Speaker 2>Zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Listening Discretion is a vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>The Fellas.

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<v Speaker 1>This ain't my first time at the rodeos.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, and welcome back to the show. I got a

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<v Speaker 3>real treat for you today. We are diving balls deep

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<v Speaker 3>into the Menindas Brothers. No pun intended, So I talked

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<v Speaker 3>about them briefly in my Program to Kill series before

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<v Speaker 3>the Netflix show Monsters even came out. Okay, I was

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<v Speaker 3>already talking about them, and I didn't feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>needed to watch the show when it dropped at the

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<v Speaker 3>time because I had already spoken about them before, and

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<v Speaker 3>quite honestly, it just didn't look like it was that

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<v Speaker 3>captivating to me. But after I finished the ed Geean

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<v Speaker 3>Monster and expanded on all the stuff they got wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>Colby and I talked about it, and you know, some

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<v Speaker 3>spices were added, and since I already watched the Dahmer months,

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<v Speaker 3>I was curious to see what direction Ryan Murphy chose

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<v Speaker 3>to go for the Menindez brothers because I know how

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<v Speaker 3>I feel about it. I had already looked into it before.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, there are a lot of mixed opinions

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<v Speaker 3>about these two. And I actually remember receiving an email

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<v Speaker 3>from a listener asking me to dive deep into this case.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, at the time, I thought I had already

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<v Speaker 3>discussed enough in program to kill and could just move on.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing. After watching the Netflix show, I

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<v Speaker 3>got sucked in and pulled into a total rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 3>and it had me shook. Okay, so we're gonna bring

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<v Speaker 3>the cosmic fire to this little investigation into the truth

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<v Speaker 3>about the Menindez brothers, and I can't wait to go

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<v Speaker 3>on this ride with you. Okay, we're gonna be looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the show monsters, of course, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the actual trial footage quite a bit, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be listening to experts and psychologists who

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<v Speaker 3>have studied their body language and their facial expressions to

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<v Speaker 3>determine if the Menindaz brothers were acting on the stand

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<v Speaker 3>or if their testimony is genuine. But before we dive

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<v Speaker 3>right into the biscuits and gravy. If you have not

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<v Speaker 3>subscribed to the Cosmic Peach patreon, you're gonna want to

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<v Speaker 3>do that for this episode. Okay, this might even be

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<v Speaker 3>a two parter, and the videos are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>integral to the investigation. The visuals during the actual trial

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be a vital part of what we

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<v Speaker 3>will be discussing today. And if there is a part two,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously you're gonna want to see that shit. So if

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<v Speaker 3>episode and the video ad free, YadA YadA, and the

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<v Speaker 3>part two whenever that comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>So now.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get freaky. All right, we're gonna get started. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>get some background shit out of the way. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>you may be familiar with this case already, but on

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<v Speaker 3>the off chance that this is the first time you're

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<v Speaker 3>hearing about them, let's just start with the basics. Joseph

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<v Speaker 3>Lyle Menindez and Eric Galen Menindez, our brothers, convey did

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<v Speaker 3>of killing their parents, jose and Kitty Menindez in their

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<v Speaker 3>Beverly Hills home in nineteen eighty nine. Right following the murders,

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<v Speaker 3>Lyle and Eric claimed that unknown intruders were responsible for

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<v Speaker 3>the murders, framing it as a potential mob killing. Police

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<v Speaker 3>initially investigated this claim, but grew suspicious when they discovered

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<v Speaker 3>the brother's extravagant spending spreez following the murders, and the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that they had hired a computer expert to delete

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<v Speaker 3>their father's recently updated will. Eric ultimately ended up confessing

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<v Speaker 3>to the murders in sessions with his psychiatrists, citing a

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<v Speaker 3>desire to be free of a controlling father with high standards,

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<v Speaker 3>among other things that we'll get into, which led to

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<v Speaker 3>the arrest of Lyle and Eric months later. Seems pretty

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<v Speaker 3>cut and dry, but oh no, no, sir, it is

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<v Speaker 3>not okay. But let's look at the murders, okay. On

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<v Speaker 3>the evening of August twentieth, nineteen eighty nine, Jose and

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<v Speaker 3>Kitty Menindez were watching some TV in the theater den

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<v Speaker 3>of their Beverly Hills mansion when Lyle and Eric entered

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<v Speaker 3>carrying loaded shotguns. Jose was shot six times, his face

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<v Speaker 3>was literally blown off. Kitty was shot ten times before

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<v Speaker 3>the fatal shot to her cheek. Kitty was on the

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<v Speaker 3>floor crawling away. Lyle ran back out to the car,

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<v Speaker 3>where Eric handed him ammunition to reload before re entering

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<v Speaker 3>the house and firing the fatal shot to her face. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>immediately after the killings, both brothers remained in the house

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<v Speaker 3>for a few minutes, expecting a police response to the

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<v Speaker 3>gunshot noise. When no one showed up, they left to

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<v Speaker 3>dispose of their blood stained clothes and later buried the

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<v Speaker 3>shotguns somewhere along Mholland Drive adjacent the Laurel Canyon. But

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<v Speaker 3>that's far from the only eyebrow raising fact in this case.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about the two scenarios here. Some people believe

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<v Speaker 3>Eric and Lyle were spoiled candy ass ridge boys who

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<v Speaker 3>murdered their parents for their money, and they made up

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<v Speaker 3>the abuse excuse quote unquote to try and get off

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<v Speaker 3>on the murders, and apparently, according to the Netflix show Monsters,

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<v Speaker 3>they were also huge Milli Vanilli fans. Now, the other

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<v Speaker 3>scenario is that Eric came to his brother Lyle in

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<v Speaker 3>a desperate plea for help to end the disgusting, absolutely depraved,

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<v Speaker 3>putrefied sex acts his father was torturing him with since

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<v Speaker 3>he was six years old. And turns out Lyle also

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<v Speaker 3>endured these same sex acts by his father, and the

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<v Speaker 3>boys had never discussed this until adulthood. But you know

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<v Speaker 3>who did know and didn't lift a finger to help

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<v Speaker 3>either of them, their own fucking mother, Kitty Menindez. So

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<v Speaker 3>they loaded up two shotguns and blew the faces off

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<v Speaker 3>the two people who had literally participated in some of

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<v Speaker 3>the worst satanic ritual abuse I've ever heard of. And

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<v Speaker 3>of course, if you're anything like my husband, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a third option, which is this is all faking, staged

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<v Speaker 3>and hey, no judgments if you think that I personally

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<v Speaker 3>am not a subscriber to that theory, but if you are,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine. Just keep an open mind as we moved

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<v Speaker 3>through this presentation. So let's talk about the data a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, okay. Jose Mendez became an executive at the

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<v Speaker 3>Hertz Corporation in later RCA records. After that, he was

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<v Speaker 3>appointed as the CEO of Live Entertainment some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>film studio, video distributor whatever. So Jose Menindez also oversaw

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<v Speaker 3>a majority of Hall and fucking Oates hit records. He

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<v Speaker 3>signed the boy band Menudo and in the show Monsters,

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<v Speaker 3>he is compared to being as influential as Spielberg. But

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<v Speaker 3>it was all behind the scenes and no one knew

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<v Speaker 3>he was the man behind the curtain. Oh and apparently

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<v Speaker 3>comes from Cuban royalty quote unquote, and the Menendez family

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<v Speaker 3>were literally the elites of Cuba. Now think about this.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we know about people at Jose Menendez level

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<v Speaker 3>in Hollywood and the entertainment industry. What do we know

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<v Speaker 3>about elite families Cuban or not? Think about it. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you a minute. If you said Satan worshiping pedophilia,

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<v Speaker 3>you are correct, ding ding. So this isn't a random

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<v Speaker 3>case of child abuse, all right, And astonishingly, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>this is why people the validity of the case because

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<v Speaker 3>they were millionaires living in Beverly Hills, and the Menendez

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<v Speaker 3>brothers literally wanted for nothing, and after their parents' death,

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<v Speaker 3>the Menindez brothers went balls to the wall, buying cars, rolexes,

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<v Speaker 3>diamond and crusted butt plugs or whatever the fuck they did. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>counter intuitively, to me, the argument is that these murders

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<v Speaker 3>were for money and the abuses made up because rich

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<v Speaker 3>executive elite CEOs and music moguls don't rape their sons.

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<v Speaker 3>That's preposterous, Okay, Well for me, it's like a fucking course.

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<v Speaker 3>Jose Menendez was going balls deep in both of his sons. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>of course he was. And let me tell you something,

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<v Speaker 3>if half of what these boys described actually happened to them.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't spend enough fucking money. Okay. They didn't buy

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<v Speaker 3>enough cars, they didn't throw enough house parties, they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>go on enough vacations or shopping sprees to make up

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<v Speaker 3>for the fucked up life of pure heinous torture they endured.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, they didn't even shoot their parents enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a scene in True Detective Season one Matthew

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<v Speaker 3>McConaughey and he's talking about what would happen if he

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<v Speaker 3>got busted and some kind of they would torture him

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<v Speaker 3>and kill him and whatever. I'm gonna be talking about

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<v Speaker 3>True Detective in an upcoming episode, hopefully with William Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see, but I want to include a snippet of

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<v Speaker 3>what I would do. I mean, the Beninda's brothers just

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<v Speaker 3>it was quick and dirty. They shot him in the

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<v Speaker 3>face and moved on. Well, kitty kind of hung on

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<v Speaker 3>for lot dear life, and she had to get a

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<v Speaker 3>couple extra blows. But it was quick and dirty, right,

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<v Speaker 3>They just got it out of the way. This is

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<v Speaker 3>what I would do if I were to ever find

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<v Speaker 3>out that someone laid a hand on either of my boys.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what would happen to them.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a cartel that worked on the border. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>this routine and Duff take you to the chair and

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<v Speaker 2>was bolted to the floor. You couple of rolls, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you couldn't budge a fucking inch, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>cut around your face, grip your scalp, yank down, rip

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<v Speaker 2>your face off, and they put a mirror in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you. She used to get a good look at yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>They cut your dick and your balls off, shove them

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<v Speaker 2>down here, your throat to your blood, and choke down

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<v Speaker 2>while you're watching.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, people think, oh, you wouldn't do that,

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't be capable. I would absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that and more.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be like fucking law abiding citizen up in

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<v Speaker 3>this bitch if I were to ever find out some

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<v Speaker 3>shit like that was going on. Now, how many bee

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<v Speaker 3>hole rapes from your dad? Is a Gucci sweater? Worth

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<v Speaker 3>to you. Okay, People get hung up on the shopping

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<v Speaker 3>spree after the murders, and to me, that's the wrong

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<v Speaker 3>fucking part to focus on, because call me crazy, but

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<v Speaker 3>a Gucci sweater and a Rolex is worth zero. Dad

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<v Speaker 3>ass rapes to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think if Doc Brown screeched up in the

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<v Speaker 3>Dolorean and was like, come on, Lyle and Eric, We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go back in time and make it so your

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<v Speaker 3>mom gives you guys up for adoption and a nice

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<v Speaker 3>middle class family raises you guys, and the only burning

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<v Speaker 3>sensation your bee hole will ever know is from the

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<v Speaker 3>occasional hot taco bell diarrhea. Do you think for a

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<v Speaker 3>second that they wouldn't have traded Listen, I've talked to

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<v Speaker 3>you guys extensively about the depravity that goes on in

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<v Speaker 3>the entertainment industry and these upper echelon pedo pieces of shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine having Spielberg as your dad. Okay, and let's not

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<v Speaker 3>forget since I brought up the Laurel Canyon earlier. John

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips from the Mamas and the Papas engaged in a

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<v Speaker 3>ten year in sestuous sexual relationship with his daughter Mackenzie,

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<v Speaker 3>different decade, but right down the street from the Menindaz Brothers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a cultural thing. They be doing this shit.

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<v Speaker 3>This is rich people, fun time raping your kids. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to now listen and view some of my

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<v Speaker 3>personal favorite parts of the trial, the parts that I

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<v Speaker 3>feel are important to hear and see. This is going

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<v Speaker 3>may have to break this up into a couple parts,

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<v Speaker 3>but let's get started and then we can dissect the

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<v Speaker 3>shit together and watch it with my commentary. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure I don't have to say this, but you

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<v Speaker 3>are listening to the Cosmic Peach podcast. The testimonies you're

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<v Speaker 3>about to hear and the discussion we're about to have

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<v Speaker 3>is extremely graphic and fucked up. Only those Cosmic Peach

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<v Speaker 3>that being said, let's queue up the first clip.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're just getting to the good part. Head

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<v Speaker 1>on over to the Cosmic Peach Patreon and make your

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<v Speaker 1>reservation to room two three seven to enjoy the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode. Not sure how to get there, download

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<v Speaker 1>the app or go to patreon dot com. Slash cosmicpeach,

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<v Speaker 1>what's in Room two three seven? Thanks for asking, Danny,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me show you something, see for yourself and uncover

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<v Speaker 1>bonus content. Extended versions of episodes add free content, early

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<v Speaker 1>access to every single episode, all videos and personal updates,

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<v Speaker 1>and just whatever else I'm in the mood for. There

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<v Speaker 1>are plenty of amenities to enjoy while checked in to

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<v Speaker 1>Room two three seven. Take a trip up the sidewinder

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<v Speaker 1>and stay awhile. You can check out anytime you'd like,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can never leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you in advance for supporting the show, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see it over there. You let her

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<v Speaker 1>walk away?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you just an feel the same kind of Blame

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<v Speaker 2>it on something, Blame it on something.

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<v Speaker 1>Something, pain on the rain?

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<v Speaker 2>What's all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Start to shine that night?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you do, don't all you pay the way