Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist
Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the
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I'm joined today by Gregory t Angelo, president of New
Tolerance Campaign. The conservative watchdog group is launching the Hate Map,
an interactive map that tracks instances of political violence perpetrated
by leftist organizations in the United States, that descriptor drawn
from the folks at Fox News that put together an
interesting story on all of this recently. I welcome in
to this edition of the Federalist Radio Hour Gregory Angela,
thank you for being here. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Hey, Matt, the pleasures all mine.
Speaker 1: As we were talking about before we started, you know,
doing this thing for real in our podcast format. This
is an idea whose time has come. How long have
we seen you know, these leftist organizations, they themselves that
have their own issues.
Speaker 2: Of course, we'll delve.
Speaker 1: Into as we move on through the podcast, but you know,
how often have we seen them vilify organizations on the
right for being extreme or calling them white supremacist. We
know the lingo, we know the language, we know the narrative.
But again, congratulations on launching this. Tell us how it
came about and what it entails in what it aims
to do.
Speaker 3: Of course, I'd be happy to well hatemap dot com
came about, I guess first and foremost because the New
Tolerance Campaign, which I lead, has been marshaling grassroots action
pushing back against wayward institutions. And one of those wayward
institutions that's been at the top of our list since
I came on board as the organization's first president back
in May of twenty twenty one is the Southern Poverty
Law Center.
Speaker 2: I probably don't need to tell.
Speaker 3: Your listeners, but for those who need a quick education
and some cliff notes on the Southern Poverty Law Center,
you have an organization that, at least on paper, has
a noble mission, and when it was founded in nineteen
seventy one, it executed on that that is, calling out
legitimate hate and violence in the United States and at
the time of the SPLC's founding, we're talking about groups
like the KKK, neo Nazi skinheads, et cetera. I mean
people in groups that were engaging in objective hate and
encouraging violence, often engaging in direct physical violence against people
not just who they disagreed with, but targeting other individuals
because of their immutable characteristics, race, religion, etc. Well, flash
ahead till today, and you have the Southern Poverty Law
Center that basically has completely abdicated its mission. People on
the right now know the Southern Poverty Law Center is
basically this catch all for any and all organizations on
the right that don't toe the liberal orthodoxy of the day.
You know, you can end up on what they call
their hate map, and that tracks everything now from the
KKK to you know, at one point you had doctor
Ben Carson on the SPLC's hate map. You know, brain
surgeon ran for president and then later went on to
become a cabinet secretary under President Trump. But you know,
I think any objective person can take a step back
and say, like, look, hey, if you're putting doctor Ben
Carson on the same footing as the KKK, is something
is wrong.
Speaker 2: With your organization. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: But here's the problem is that, you know, for those
not on the right are those who might just kind
of be you know, casual observers. You look at the
Southern Poverty Law Center and you do still view them
as this objective arbiter of hate in the United States.
And if you go to their hate map and you
go to their website, think it. You know, I couldn't
blame anyone for assuming that all hate in the United
States is exclusively the domain of the far right, because
according to the Southern Poverty Law Center it is.
Speaker 2: Now that's definitely not the case, you know.
Speaker 3: You know that, I know that, and I think a
lot of folks around the country know that. But what
hasn't gotten out as much as the organized hate that
we're seeing on the left. And I'll tell you what
actually specifically brought about the genesis of this project at
New Tolerance Campaign and the hatemap dot com project, we
saw over the course of last and even into the spring,
college campuses that were rocked by anti Semitic protests. And
I don't use that term lightly. I'm talking you know,
groups like Students for Justice in Palestine that were legitimately
targeting Jewish students for their faith and met hunting them.
Speaker 2: Down, and I mean quite literally.
Speaker 3: You know, you need to look no further than what
happened at Cooper Union when Jewish students literally had to
lock themselves in a library to get away from a
mob that was threatening to do them physical harm. Well,
after all this went down after the October seventh attacks
against Israeli civilians that took over twelve hundred lives took place,
the Southern Poverty Law Center was being called upon to
condemn what happened in Israel and to condemn the anti
Semitic haate that we were seeing on college campuses. One
week goes by, two weeks, go by, three weeks, go
by matt and then finally at the fourth week, the
Southern Poverty Law Center ended up issuing this mealy mouthed
statement that you know, basically amounted to all lives matter, right,
And I don't know, I recall a time we were
told all Lives Matter was racist and it.
Speaker 2: Was right to say right at any rate.
Speaker 3: That's the that's the angle that the Southern Poverty Law
Center took. And then here's here's like the big, the
big moment though after the start of twenty twenty four,
I've received a fundraising mailer from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Clearly they had gotten a lot of blowback because of
their bungled response to October seventh and anti semitism on
college campuses, and so it was this multi page mailer
that featured their hate map and talked about how they
were recommitting themselves to fighting anti semitism across the United States.
And guess who was on the list. You know, it
was more individuals and groups.
Speaker 2: On the far right.
Speaker 3: It was, you know, the usual suspects. But no mention
at all of Students for Justice in Palestine, no mention
at all of these leftist professors you know that said
they were quote unquote exhilarated to see the attacks on
Israeli civilians on October seventh. And I said, you know,
the one moment where the SPLC actually could have taken
the reins and said, you know, we are going to
be objective arbiters, even if it was just anti semitism.
Speaker 2: You know, at least that would have been a start.
But they didn't do that.
Speaker 3: They just fell back to their usual position of saying, well,
all anti semitism included and all hate comes from the right.
Speaker 2: Well that was kind of the last straw for me.
Speaker 3: And so in January of this year, me and my
skeleton crew at the New Tolerance Campaign.
Speaker 2: I don't call a small I say we're a lean
and mean.
Speaker 3: Nonprofit right, but we embarked on this hate Map project,
you know, tracking all of the individuals and organizations on
the left who not only inspire and call for physical
violence against their political others, but frequently engage in it.
And you know what's wild, interesting and also frightening that
is that, you know what emerges is a real pattern
that you're seeing. You know, these are not like lone
wolf attacks. There's a steady drumbeat of hate and calls
for violence that the left has been engaging in for years.
And our Hate Map project is meant to call all
of that out, you know, don't forget that. In twenty twelve,
the gunman who walked into the Family Research Council's offices
in Washington, d C. With a bunch of Chick fil
A sandwiches looking to kill over fifty people and smear
those chicken sandwiches on his victims' faces. Thankfully he was stopped,
but he was a radical LGBTQ activist who said he
found the Family Research Council because the Southern Poverty Law
Center listed.
Speaker 2: Them as a hate group.
Speaker 3: You know, we we can look at, you know, the
individual who would be assassin of you know, President Trump
as we understand it. I think, you know, he was
a Democratic donor in the social media showing he has
a leftist sensibilities. The transgender shooter in Nashville who said
she would quote unquote kill to get puberty blockers. You know,
I mean, this is not just like lone wolf actions.
You know, you don't come to these conclusions unless you
are radicalized online or otherwise. And it's leftist groups and
individuals that are doing this radicalization and often engaging in
this violence. So you know, it took us seven months,
but we're very proud to launch this project in just
the beginning of August. Hatemap dot com and it's designed
to be a resource for anyone who's curious, but specifically
for civil servants, academics, members of the media of course,
but you know, even the general public who just might
be curious if there are any leftist hate groups that
are operating in their neck of the Woods.
Speaker 1: Well, I think this information is absolutely vital to the
national conversation, especially now more than ever. As you mentioned,
you know, that's the thing about the Southern Poverty Law Center,
that's the thing about leftist groups who claim to be
tracking hate in America and around the world. As you noted,
it is all one. But it's more than that. It's
more than information. It is stirring people up to hate.
I mean, isn't it strange to say that the Southern
Poverty Law Center and its hate tracker has done significant damage?
And listen, this is not an argument to, you know,
close off free speech. You have a right to speech,
but there are consequences that come with that, and we
have seen that play out in this country, particularly over
the last the better part of the last decade. And
it's more than just a one sided approach to things.
It can be lethal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 3: And he I mean, there are definitely consequences to being
placed on the Southern Poverty Law Center's hate map. As
biased as it is, as I said, it still has
this patina of objectivity. Do not forget that. Up until
only recently, Amazon had used the Southern Poverty Law Center
as the one and only criteria that would determine which
nonprofit organizations were and were not allowed to receive financial
contributions via their Amazon Smile donation program.
Speaker 2: That was it. You know who was on that list.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, among others, you know, you had Alliance
Defending Freedom. I mean here you have a massive national organization,
faith based of course, but they've argued in one case
is before the United States Supreme Court recently, and Amazon
had blocked them from receiving contributions only because the Southern
Poverty Law Center had them on their map. Well, Amazon
Smile shut down that program several months ago in twenty
twenty three. But you know, there are still other groups
and especially members of the media that just look at
the SPLC as the definitive re source of hate in America.
And you know, I would also be able to forgive,
you know, like a casual bystander for believing that hate
and hate on the right is worse than it's ever
been in the United States. You know, one of the
other groups that's on the SPLC's hate map is Moms
for Liberty. I mean, here's a parental rights group. You know,
one of their students are what their kids are being
taught in school and they want to know if there's
any sort of sex education or radical gender education, and
for that, the SPLC puts them on the same level
as terrorists and puts them on their hate map. But
here's the most pernicious aspect of specifically the Moms for
Liberty listing is that if you go to the SPLC's website,
they have this banner headline in red and black, very menacing,
and it says the Southern Poverty Law Center is currently
tracking over one thousand, four one hundred and fifty hate
groups in the United.
Speaker 1: States or what they hate groups.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot, right, right, But of that, fourteen
fifty three hundred and ten alone are national chapters of
Moms for Liberty all across the country.
Speaker 2: So so here's the point.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, not only is the Southern Poverty
Law Centers hate map biased, not only are the numbers inflated,
but there are real consequences to.
Speaker 2: Being put on that map.
Speaker 3: And I think unless an organization like New Tolerance Campaign
is offering a counter to their map, you know, at
the very least tracking hate that comes from the other end.
Speaker 2: Of the political spectrum.
Speaker 3: But also in the process, calling out the hypocrisy of
the SPLC. We're not going to be able to change
that dynamic. That was kind of a secondary motivation of
embarking on this project.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I think that this map attempts to do.
It's to say to the accomplish media, corporate media out there,
listen what you have been told and sold by these
leftist groups. It lacks at the very least context and
outright lies about organizations. So let's set the record straight.
But more so, let's include those groups that truly are
involved in in hate, truly are perpetuating hateful, violent messages
like some of the groups you mentioned, the antisemitic groups
that you mentioned. Let's let the public know because the
sub poverty Law Centers certainly has abdicated that responsibility, among
others which I'll get to momentarily. And as you said,
that's the design here. So what kind of groups are
we talking about on your organization's hate map.
Speaker 3: Over the course of our seven months of research? And
I guess I would just add that was seven months
before we launched. But this is an ongoing project and
it's a list that not only will be maintained, but
I imagine will sadly be growing as time goes on.
I don't see the temperature and the discourse in this
country being dialed down anytime soon.
Speaker 1: But over the course wait, wait a minute, because Joe
Biden told us to dial down the temperature in the room.
Hasn't that occurred since since the Great Leader was thrown
thrown under the d NC bus declared that goal.
Speaker 3: I guess, as far as I know, the most recent
quote I heard from Joe Biden is that he doesn't
think that Trump would accept the lection results if it
doesn't go in his favor. Now, with no basis in
you know, and he's not quoting Trump, there's no basis
in reality with that. But you know that alone is
you know, stoking up the same type of energy I
think that you know, inspired the guy who you know
almost took President Trump's life on July thirteenth. But to
your question, what we saw as we were going through
research on this project was, of course like a whole
spectrum of hate groups on the left right. Now our
list has over has one hundred and eighty four entries total,
but they basically break.
Speaker 2: Down into four different types.
Speaker 3: You have, as I mentioned earlier, you have you know,
anti Semitic, and I guess even like from a larger perspective,
I would call anti faith groups. You know, like in
addition to anti Semitic organizations like Students for Justice in
Palestine and the Answer Coalition, you also have a group
like Jane's Revenge that has vandalized and you know, in
some cases, you know, I think even you know, UH
had violent attacks against pro life pregnancy centers, you know,
motivated by anti Christian hate. But but there's that that
anti religion, anti faith bucket. You also have radical LGBTQ
individuals and organizations. You know, I mentioned the Nashville transhooter
at the Covenant School. But you know, when you have
the Human Rights Campaign literally declaring a nationwide state of emergency.
Speaker 2: Quote unquote for LGBTQ.
Speaker 3: Americans basically saying, if you are gay, lesbian, transgender in
the United States, you are not safe ever, regardless of
where you go.
Speaker 2: In the United States.
Speaker 3: Well, do you think that might actually like inspire someone
to fight back against a system of oppression that they
think and that they've been told, you know, as they
are actually fighting to literally you know, wipe them off
the off the face of the earth. So there's radical
LGBTQ organizations and individuals we also have.
Speaker 2: And this is kind of an interesting one.
Speaker 3: The well, they're all interesting, but this one maybe especially
because I think it's kind of flown under the radar
in the midst of especially the college protests that we've seen,
but radical climate and in animal rights activists around the country.
You know, they these are not people who are just
making your morning commute difficult because they are throwing themselves
down in the middle of highways and you know, blocking traffic,
and you know ambulances and law enforcement personnel from getting
to where they need to go. I mean that that
that can be bad enough. But you have groups like
Earth First that are engaging in what they call ecological resistance,
which is really industrial sabotage, right, which actually puts lives
in danger, you know when they are when they are
engaging in that in the in those types of actions.
And then we have what we call just uh, you know,
general LGBT A part of me general leftist radical groups, uh.
And you know, we're kind of talking about the big
names that are probably familiar to your to your list listeners.
Speaker 2: Antifa, Black Lives Matter, et cetera.
Speaker 3: You know, these are groups and organizations that will just
protest any and everything on the right any chance they get.
And not only do they protest that, but those protests
frequently break down into riot's physical attacks, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So that's that's.
Speaker 3: Kind of the lay of the land, I would say,
of leftist hate in the United States, and that's what
we determine over the course of our research for the
first seven months of the year.
Speaker 1: Those are some good names, and when I say good,
I don't mean good. They are names that legitimately should
be on a list of you know, churning a hatred
and in so many cases violence of course, as we've seen.
We're joined again on this edition of the Federalist Radio
Hour by Gregory t Angelo, president of the New Tolerance Campaign,
the conservative watchdog group just recently launching its Hate Map,
an interactive map that tracks instances political violence perpetrated by
leftist organizations in the United States. And let me ask
you this, and it's going to sound like a joke,
but I mean it in all seriousness. Can an entire administration,
that is to say, a presidential administration deemed as be
deemed as a hate group? And I ask that because
the policies that the Biden administration has put forward mandated
over the last three and a half plus years in
this country, at their core, are supposed to be about
fighting against hate. But they're targeting faith based organizations, They're
targeting an entire race of people with their CRT critical
race theory based ideas. They're targeting people who have different ideas,
They're targeting the free speech of those organizations. Have you
consus hittered putting an entire administration on the hate Map?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 3: You know, I would say this to you, Matt, and
this might come as a surprise to you, But unlike
the Southern Poverty Law Center, when we put our list together,
we had real standards.
Speaker 2: There was a.
Speaker 3: Legitimate threshold that individuals and groups needed to reach, or
in some cases surpass, in order to make the cut,
if you will, for inclusion on our lists. I guess
the point being, you know, we didn't take this lightly
calling persons and organizations hate groups, but there had to be,
you know, a real pattern for calling for, or engaging
in or inspiring literal violence. Right.
Speaker 2: So there were a.
Speaker 3: Number of times throughout the course of our initial research
on this project where you know, we saw institutions like
I mean Texas Children's Hospital for example, you know, which
has made headlines recently. Chris Ruffo did a big expose
and you have doctor Ethan Haim who showed that, you know,
the hospital basically disregarded Texas law as I understand it,
and continued engaging in UH sex change treatments for minors
even though they were they were technically forbidden from from
doing so.
Speaker 1: Mutilation of children is what they have been engaged in.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, But but that alone wasn't enough to get
Texas Children on our map, you know, Texas Children's Hospital
on our map. Uh. You know there are also people
who are just advocating for radical policies and policies alone
if they are radical, aren't aren't enough to to put
someone on our hate map? Now you mentioned like critical
race theory. That's another example, you know, just prostolytizing critical
race theory in the classroom. You know, as as as
bad and as poisonous as that might be, and as
much as it can be indoctrinating. Uh, you know, entire
generation of students with a leftist, anti i would say,
anti American perspective on our culture. Again, it's not like
inspiring hate. What is, though, is you know professors that
are not only teaching critical race theory, but then over
the course of their teachings, their lesson plans, or even
on social media will say things like all white people
need to die.
Speaker 2: You know that That's then all of a.
Speaker 3: Sudden, someone who's pushing critical race theory finds themselves on
our list. So you know, and I want it to
be like very very careful, you know, with certainly like
having genuine criteria when we put this list together, and
certainly at its initial unveiling. You know, there are like
as we were, you know, going through compiling the list.
I mean, my goodness, Matt, there are like I would say, hundreds,
maybe even thousands of instances of public figures or organizations
that have called for violence against Donald Trump, right, I
mean that alone, and we kind of put those in
a separate, separate stack. And by the way, it is
still something that we are are tracking, but we we
didn't include it with the rollout of hatemap dot com
because and we didn't add, like say, an entire administration
to our hate map because I did not want this
to be seen as political or as politicized as the
Southern Poverty Law Centers list is and has become. I mean,
obviously we come from our perspective. I mean, you know,
folks can just look up my bio and you can
see I mean, I've been a died in the world
conservative for for almost ever. But even despite that, I mean, like,
you can't deny the facts that are there on our
hate map. You can't deny the receipts that we have
in describing why the people in groups that are on
the list find themselves there. You know, I do not
want hatemap dot com to be seen as the partisan
cudgel that the SPLC's hate map has become. I really
do want it to be used as a legitimate and
objective resource of hate. It might be hate on the left,
and I think you know, and we're very upfront in
describing our list as such, but you know, we're not
carrying water for any particular campaign. This is just all
about calling out, you know, the hate that is fomented
on the left that does end up impacting presidential administration's candidates,
et cetera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, it is a map whose time has definitely come.
But let me let me ask you this, how's it
going so far? And I mean that question in the
context of as we talked about later, the Washington Post,
the New York Times, CNN, every news organization, the gannet groups,
the Associated Press, every news organization out there a part
of the accomplice media or corporate media chain, one and
the same. They turn to these groups time and time again,
the Southern Poverty Law Center, organizations like that, the SPLC
in particular, as a source of tracking hatred in America.
But as we've talked about and as most of our
listeners know. I'm sure this is not the group that
has an unbiased tracking, as we've discussed. So how do
you get that mindset from the national news media, the
accomplished media that is already so deeply connected to tied
to the leftist ideas and these leftist groups to say, oh, well,
let's do the same, let's track hatred on the left
as well and use this resource.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what we're doing right now behind the scenes
at New Tolerance Campaign. Is what amounts to basically marketing
the map, right, like letting people know and letting particularly
influential people, journalists, select officials and others know that this
is something that was designed to be used as a resource.
I mean, you know, people can go to hatemap dot com.
You can click around the map, you can find some
of the dots that are close to where you live,
and you know, you can be amazed and shocked at
you know, the leftist violent action that's taking place in
your neck of the woods. But you know, truly this
has been created for like members of the media, for example,
you know, think how different the framing of the anti
Semitic Prohamas college protests that took place in the fall
and spring would be if it wasn't just oh, these
protests took place at Harvard, and then these other protests
took place at University of Texas, and then these other
protests took place at Columbia. If Press was then able
to say, Students for Justice in Palestine has coordinated over
one dozen of these anti Semitic protests that we're seeing
across college campuses. You know, I think that that the
reaction would be far different, and it would also give
elected official, civil servants and even law enforcement, you know,
a better handle on the scope of the problem.
Speaker 2: Uh So, so that's what what.
Speaker 3: I'm doing right now, and that's what my fellow staff
members are doing, is reaching out to those folks that
that I had mentioned, the civil servants, the academics, the
members of the media, and and just you know, members
of the general public and also social media influencers, just
to get the word out about this. That's certainly the
next the next step. And you know, I have under
no illusions that this will happen overnight, but I'll tell
you we were initially planning on launching this project in
the fall, like it was going to come out about
a month from now, like after Labor Day, after the
assassination attempt against President Trump, we accelerated the rollout process
on this uh and also wanted to make sure it
got out before the Democratic National Convention the DNC. Right now,
you have you know, a Prohamas network that is already
organizing as protests in Chicago to coincide with the Democratic
National Convention, specifically targeting the convention.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to make sure that.
Speaker 3: Media that are covering those protests, should they turn violent
and have passed this prologue. Sadly, I think they will,
you know, are able to use this map as a
resource and a reference in that coverage. And that's outside
of the conservative journalism ecosphere, which we're aggressively reaching out to.
But you know, I would hope and as you said, that,
you know, like your big names in mass media, your
New York Times, your Washington Post, AP, Reuters, et cetera,
would see this map for what it is and that's
a resource to help them adequately frame the problem of
leftist hate in the United States.
Speaker 1: Now, don't get me wrong, this this map is so
consequential and so badly needed. But when you talk about
you know these same news outlets if they only had
this map at the time that these pro Hamas organizations,
these pro Hamas protests were taking place at universities across
the country. They need only not be lazy and not
be of leftist mindset to know that the organizations behind
all of this you're talking about do what they do.
I'm glad that we have a one stop shop for
this information. It's so vital, But a lot of this
stuff is a laziness and wilful laziness. They just simply
don't care about telling the other side of the story.
Along with that, I know that you're not tracking this,
but I want to get your perspective on it, because
not only do we talk about the organizations that have
churned hatred, that are involved in actual acts of violence
in this country on the left, but what about again,
those organizations that have abbs, absolutely abdicated their responsibility in
tracking abuses. Southern poverty is a perfect example of that.
I think the ACLU is a great example. I remember
covering a very dark, corrupt, and sinister series of investigations
in Wisconsin years back. They were known as the John
Doe investigations, and they were ruled unconstitutional. A perfect storm
of wrongs committed on average conservative citizens in the state
of Wisconsin, and the ACLU said nothing about it. The ACLU,
which is constantly going after law enforcement for raiding the
homes of criminal suspects, had nothing to say about pre
dawn raids on the homes of conservatives whose only crimes
were that they were involved in politics and policy in
the state of Wisconsin. Again, I know you're not necessarily
tracking those groups, but they have something to say about
all of this too, with their lack, their absence of
responsibility in doing what they originally set out to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what you're getting out there really is
the greater mission of the New Tolerance campaign. So hatemap
dot com is just one of the projects that that
we engage in at NTC. It is and is intended
to be the flagship campaign that we run it. As
I said, it's meant to be this big, ongoing project
and resource that is going to continue to grow. I
hope you know, both in you know, engagement and in
those who avail themselves of it in their work, their writing,
their punditry, et cetera. But NTC was founded to hold
all institutions accountable when they fail to live up to
their stated values. I mean that includes colleges, universities, it
includes you know, these woke corporations. But to your point,
it also includes these activist nonprofits that, at least on
paper and at their foundings, had noble missions, but over
time have just had an ever leftward drift and now
many of them are essentially just carrying water for the DNC.
And so, you know, we've talked at length about the
Southern Poverty Law Center, but the ACLU is another one
of those nonprofit institutions that we have regularly targeted to
whold account targeted for accountability via grassroots action at NTC,
through our digital messaging pressure campaigns.
Speaker 2: You know, I tell people.
Speaker 3: That, you know, these days, I think the ACLU is
hard pressed to would be hard pressed to tell anyone
what the CL stands for in the acronym, right, It's
almost as though they forgot those two letters there. And yeah,
I mean the ACLU, there was a time when they
were just the these objective, truly objective arbiters but also
fighters for free speech in the United States and boy like,
in terms of objectively upholding their mission. I mean these
This is an organization that was upholding the free speech
rights of Nazis and of the KKK. You know, as
long as they didn't engage in violence. You know, hey,
like they have a right. And what's you know, the
greatest test of one support of freedom of speech is,
you know, supporting the most vile. You do, support the
most vile of speech as long as it doesn't escalate
into into physical violence. The ACLU was right there, but
just in over the course of the last several years,
I think it was twenty twenty if I'm not mistaken,
but don't hold me to that. But obviously this is
you know, twenty twenty was the Trump presidency. You had
this big race reckoning in the United States, and and
the ACLU explicitly stated that, you know, they would stop
taking on certain cases from the right because you know,
basically they didn't want.
Speaker 2: To, you know, because basically them just a minuting now a.
Speaker 3: Mouthpiece the progressive movement and also an extremely well funded
mouthpiece for the progressive movement. And we're going to engage
in all sorts of actions that have nothing to do
with our original mission or is it kind of what's
in our wheelhouse? Like a CLU is known for taking
people to court, right and taking the government to court
to support free speech. Suddenly they're underwriting these mass protests
at JFK Airport, you know, fighting for open borders and uh,
you know, stopping and stopping you know, an executive order
that would prevent Islamus terrorists from coming into the United
States at any rate.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know this big project that we have at hatemap
dot com is specifically targeted. Uh Well, one of the
one of the secondary goals is to hold the SPLC accountable.
But we have not forgotten uh, the a c l
U and its dereliction of duty. And you know there
are other nonprofits out there as well that we'll continue
to call out.
Speaker 1: Indeed, it is a fabulous resource. As you said, this
was you know, you were preparing for this map for
a launch a little bit later on. But this series
of very horrifying events this summer, I know, necessitated moving
this out much sooner. Where can people go to find
the information that they need from your organization in general
and for the new hate map.
Speaker 3: The easiest way to go to the hate map just
type hatemap dot com into your browser. Hatemap dot com
that will also take you to our website, newtolerance dot org,
and from there, in addition to the hate map, you
can see all the other campaigns that we engage in.
One of the things that I really pride myself on
as the head of New Tolerance Campaign is that we
frequently rally grassroots action to come to the aid of
Joe and Jane American when the cancel culture woke mob
comes for them. We've gotten people reinstated on Twitter. We
have gotten student groups that were dechartered by college and
universities because the speakers that they wanted to bring on
campus made some students feel quote unquote unsafe. Well, we
helped to get you know, for example, the Emory Free
Speech Forum recharted.
Speaker 2: You know, there are.
Speaker 3: Other such cases where just people come to us, they
go to our website and they're reaching out for help,
so we're there to help them for that too. On
social media, folks can go to at new underscore Tolerance
on x on Facebook, just look up new Tolerance Campaign.
We're also there on Rumble and YouTube. You can search
for new Tolerance and we'll come up.
Speaker 1: Well, it is fascinating and vital information and you can
find it all with a click of your mouse or
at your fingertips. Thanks to my guest today, Gregory t Angelo,
president of New Tolerance Campaign, the conservative watchdog group, is
launching the Hate Map fact. It's up and running right now.
It's an interactive app that tracks instances of political violence
perpetrated by leftist organizations in the United States. You've been
listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm
Matt Kittle, senior correspondent at The Federalist. We'll be back
soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom and
anxious for the fray.
Speaker 3: I heard the fame, voice the reason, and then it
faded away.