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Speaker 1: You know, rocks are coming from two three different locations,

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just flying through the air at them, and one of

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the kid got caged in the hand. He was bleeding,

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so they took off her on the camp or they

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ran off and they hit underneath the yond fifth. We

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all the high spot there, they're all hiding under the

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iif we all as the rocks are coming like over

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the house and stuff. My kids, don't you know what

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you're trying to film? Like he got whacked in the

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head with a smaller rock. Now on the other side

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of the drivers an old sister and the tightsaner. It

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just looks like a cannonball with a little cork top,

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and it was filled with something real heavy. I mean

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I could throw it. We'd eat eat if I was lucky.

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It was heavy. And that comes flying through the trees

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and landed down the bottom of the colliesackt there the video,

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just see that thing that can hardly toss it all

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flying over the feat.

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Speaker 2: When did your interest in the subject of Bigfoot start?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, what happened is when as a kid, my grandparents,

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my mother and me and my two brothers, I would

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have about like maybe seven, I would have been the

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oldest maybe about seven, and my brother ran about five

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and youngest one would have been about maybe twoish, you know,

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or you can they can walk. But he here the

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character a little pratt Kennedyl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And my grandpa was the wood spending you know, he

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grew up and you know you're born in nineteen o four,

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not long after Wright brother slu You know it's spring

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about four. What do you that was his favorite thing,

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going out the woods, hot and fish and he growing

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up in aparm and the boonze. So let me go up.

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We're between Marquat and Big Bay, Michigan, which is started

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in the middle of nowhere, and the stopped. There's this

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river that runch Lakes Berrier River on one side, it's

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telling pressed Cryoa Beach on the other side, just woods

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and stuff. Well, we parked on your started bridge and

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when we walked down the river to the spirits el

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the sand beach there and they're going some big tracks.

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I mean that's about seven. I was just we got

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out there, some big tracks. They just have a vague

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memory of it. But you know, me and memory concerned,

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it's been a long time. But what's this. You know,

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it's acumic back to way bigger and my Grappa sort

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of scratching his head. Well, something started screeching in the woods.

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You know, it was blowed you know, had some strengthen

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me to a kind of othes and yeah, I guess

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they kept getting closer from remember, well we went to

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the up trying to see what it was, and rantially

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that there is. I just remembered it as like as

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big bush like you pictured the side of a why

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lock three or something like that. Yeah, and we got

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his closed that we were on the other side of it,

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and the thing was jumping up known screeching. It was

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even feel the grown cheek like when a big heavy

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logging truck or something goes by. You feel that vibrant

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you know, like a libration. Yeah, there's something, you know,

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big over there, screeching and jumping out. You could feel

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the grown chicken. And I was like, finey, I'm like

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I'm going to go around a tree and cut and

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or those bushes and see what this thing is. Well,

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my mom did other flots, you know, She's like grabs

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my hands like we're out of here. Yeah, So we

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all took off through the car and that was we

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were going well on the paper, you know, through the apple,

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and the paper came up like maybe two days later

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or whatever, that same gay about our steam time that afternoon,

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somebody saw one crossed by fifty there, which was right

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where we were, you know, the same location across the highway. Well,

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that was one thing, you know, I got a little

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bit of interest about that. You know, read a couple

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of books in high school. But that was you know,

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you didn't have internet back then, right. And then eventually,

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and I always do something, I ended up the service

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traveled a lot, and then eventually I got older, you know,

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internet digging around a little bit. But I enft talking

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to a researcher from Lower Michigan. Now he saw a

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daughter up here. And in twenty nineteen decades later, there

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on the other side of that river where where the beaches,

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and they saw just like I think great Port Colby

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gad one ran down on all foursts right about where

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we would have been out to the same beach where

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we would have band ran around a couple of circles

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on our forests, stood up and walk back over on

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two legs. Game location decades later. Wow, sort of unique.

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He thinks they use that river It is like a

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you know, a trail story of a way, you know,

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follow the river from different locations. So years and went by,

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and then started to getting you name for a start,

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stocked with some people online, and then some real good people,

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really good people, and eventually started its new pround a

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little bit now I'm trying to think of where it

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all began. Yeah, it started my I used to cheating

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the kid about big you know, come and get him.

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But I got to fix her upper on a suicide

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of town. There's this little neighborhood used to be a

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mine and you go through a swamp road. There's a

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little smaller neighborhood there that most people don't even know exist.

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road and you up a hill. There's my old fing

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sure upper house. Well, I had a fiel wheel camper

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park there, and we went up there and the city

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flos a drive because originally a street before. So we

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walk up to the top and I noticed some huge footprints.

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When I first I thought, no, there's somebody trying to

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break in or something. But they're going through the yard

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and I didn't really you know, it's about flight eap

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snow at springtime, you know when you picked out a

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hard pack on top when it's starting to melt off

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and spring and you can kiptoe over. But you think

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you think it's what fight eat like that. Yeah, well, yeah,

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I didn't much mind. You don't didn't didn't know you're

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breaking that said, oh somebody going ice fish or something.

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Many pay a lot of mine to it. Well, and

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I should have a couple of weeks later, my kids

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are still there, but they're still blowing out a bit.

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why bigfoot, and he goes, I think, so, well, we

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go look and throwing off there's tracks. He peeked in

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the camper window, and then they had walked across the

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back of the yard and seem to drift over after that.

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in that area, a whole bunch. But another time I

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take my care to when when we have the v

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we hiked a while and more than my own half

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from where we were staying, and we're almost there as

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my kidness ran there skateboard and stuff, hadding pun on

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the road and and my my kid whispers his friend.

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scaring us about big buds starting to get dark, to

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tell us some scary stories. Well, no student does he

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say that that's a big deep hall came out of

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the woods. And I'm like, as you were saying, you know,

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well they start of ran home. I mean, I'm around

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with weed a little further. We turned around and I'm

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with still guilt. I go by there and then so

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we saw the tracks at one time. Another time I

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had this area where well because we had fire trailer

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and we had to you know, move all that their

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cryler burn. But anyway, we lost some guinea pigs and

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where he's only that prowerpy I wanted to we're still

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snow under ground. I guess we're going to see now.

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in to scoop gallon to the ground to start being

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able to dig a hole for him. I'll get the

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snow gounds. Get started, well, climbing the steep steep steep

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you know where gibs, you know, galling pine trees and stuff,

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and if you know, you don't want to climb that

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in that time yere, But I did anyway, that's super genius.

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go up and following those tracks. They followed it at

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the tamper fixed upprouse for like fifty inches center the center. Wow,

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once again fifty inches center the center, and you could

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see where there was some deer up on the top

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of the yellows where there's gear bed, and so I

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followed where it looked like, you know, I can't see

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if we're sure, because I love people dump boats deer

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out that way too. But I followed like a broken

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off leg, you over one, okay, center or catchure and

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break a leg. Go yeah, And I followed them as

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the skin looked like so when they tried to grab it,

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and then I was the hind quarters and grab you know,

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on and the deer took off like you know, big

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chunker like height you know there. Yeah, so I think

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give me. I got one there by a bunch of tracks,

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you know, just single they went again, just a single

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one fifteen stride and tracks all over the place, so

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you know, him going through and he just took off somewhere. Well,

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that was interesting, and then I got to know that

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it's up. He's a professional diet used to be up

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on like Alaska stuff. I got to know him on Facebook,

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you know, and he's really good. He used to have

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a keep echail or something. My knee is that good?

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a few years ago? I found it goes on and

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on aught hire miles from here, thirteen inch print going

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on and on and on, you know, like about a

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quarter a mile of tracks and it's one location.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then later we were maybe about within eight ten

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miles on the other side of the river another and

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we were trying to get out where I was trying

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to go to the kep As during the world to

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fare of the work. So I missed the turn and

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finding my GPS uploaded where where I was supposedly went

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one way where I wanted, I went the other way.

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Road clothes sign which mean specied was cautioned to me.

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So me and him and the me man went. We

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went through three washouts going down here, down here, and

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ate the fourth wonders freeze downing his stuff. I'm like,

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I'll not even going to try that. And if I

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tried to drive back up to down there now, it

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might not be a good idea. So yeah, we rolled

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off over eighty on your feet, you know a little

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almost looked like there's just a spot where you get

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in around the bushes, and you started hidden and you

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know a little fire, but cook the hot dog and

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stuff and through some of apples. I'll just sort of ackerate.

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just sworn I heard an apple fun backing the car vader,

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but I wasn't sure. But in the morning I went

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and looked and walked to me and rode and it

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tied pretty hard. You know a lot of the rottom hop,

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you know, rocky soil sandy with you know the little

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rock pebbles and stuff where it's hard to leave a crint.

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But right it happened, was there the water ran down

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the hill and there's like for the runoff with the

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sand and made a little sand puddle. I guess it

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cause you know water and sandy area. And there was

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another thirteen inch I'm puous the same one. I about

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a five inch trough aile print too clear prints and

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a couple you could see it just dragged and you know,

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went back up more on the road and you couldn't

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see anymore of a good go on. Then the grand

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f Now he told me the golden nugget was. And

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so there was a big one out there, twenty three

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inch sprinked. You're gonna think somebody's spring a joke, as

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is like beyond words, but it's real. You'll find him.

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There's another location. You know, we're deep in the wilderness area.

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And sure enough where he decaid to go and go

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into swamps. I worked, went to night shifter, this, that

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and there. I think that's pretty white. So and I

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missed the little slide where you wanted me a little

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clothes scary nut to open. But we ended up about

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half mile from where ideally I wanted a camp. And

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I was tired after much of mid nights and driving

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for hours, and and and and so we set up camp.

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boggy pond, and he's you know, you see it. Some

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me cleared it out and up row camp. Are you

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there was fire a bit. Well, we stayed there, and

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I'm next morning we went out and looked, or I

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went out and looked. He's he was scared, I was,

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And he heard stuff in the swamps that night. I

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slept through everything. So in the morning he's because he

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was up all night scared. I went down walk that

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area and they had been walking on the shoulder, but

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the big one walked into the main and rode and

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taken about four steps and back onto their shoulder, that

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big twenty three incher. And there's hundreds and hundreds of

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print that I went back and I should have woke

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him up. He was out, you know. There was a

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seventh or was the twenty three, and I would pick

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up about seventeen and then that nineteen eighty from the

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guy told me it's like there's the male, the female,

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and a large to be there. So I found hundreds

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of prints to that on that location, and I'm trying

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to think what else has happened, like fixed her upper house.

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And he says, a few years ago, my kid was

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up there. It would have been made ten twelve years old,

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and he was up there with a couple of his

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friends playing by. You go up the hill and there's

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a house and there's a sort of close up to

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the hill continues upwards all right, So they're behind the

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house up on higher and the hill and there's just

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woods all around it one thing. They're coming in. Rocks

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are coming from two with three different locations, just flying

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through the air at him. And one kid got keagged

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in the hand. He was bleeding. But they took off

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around the camp or around the house and then he ran.

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My kids recording all this too. He's didn't have a

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lot of memories phone, he delete stuff and recording recording.

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We have video it is. And they run off and

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they hit underneath the fifth whee all the high spot there.

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There's about three or four m kids and then two

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the guy that there's in that area too. He's going

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down below with his girlfriend. You're like twenty years old.

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Maybe they can run up to see what's going on.

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Throw all hiding under the fifth We all as the

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rocks are coming like over the house and stuff. Yeah,

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and my kids out, you know what. They're trying to

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film Like he got whacked in the head with a

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smaur rock. The rock probably took some damage on his head,

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but it's another story. But yeah, poor rock running if

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you know, some Martyn granite. But you know he got

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and then they said enough of dish. They ran down

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the driveway going to the COLDI sack now on the

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other side of the drivers, an old sister and the

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types and they were just looks like a cannonball with

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a little cork top, you know. And he used he's

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back in the day for like road construction when you

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you know the fild, it looks like a canniball's little

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wick on the top, ye back, Yeah, one of them.

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And it was filled with something real heavy. I mean

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I could throw it maybe eat feet if I was looking.

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It was heavy, you know. I never tried to throw

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it till later, but I just knew where it was

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well at the bottom the hill. I mean that comes

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flying through the trees and landed down on the bottom

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of the collsack there, And that's something I could throw

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me eight feet if almuck, even though keeping you know,

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straight lining down. Just it was heavy, Yeah, went all

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through the trees and landed down the airbort, you know,

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one hundred hundred fifty feet away. Wow, I mean it

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seemed to have came a little closer. Whether it we knows,

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but I saw the video. Just see that thing that

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I can hardly toss it all flying over the trees

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and I think a few more rocks heme down there,

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and it was enough of that. But he's got that

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in video. I'd like to get a big white screen

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or something goes through his you know, go go go.

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Y'all looked real good. I never have yet and it's

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on like two do you know my computer is down?

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And eventually I'd like to do that when you've seen

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it on you know, a cell phone, so you don't

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really get the you know, great look at it like that.

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See if like I see the thing that in the woods.

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But who knows, because they were a thing that you know,

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they're well hit.

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Speaker 2: And wherever they were, what were they doing whenever the

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rock throwing started? Were they just like out there playing

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and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Right, and they're out behind the house a little lot

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dinner you know, Rinsey Street off you know, any difference,

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but there's a lot of tree back there. There were

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just kids playing around doing whatever. I'm not even mature,

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you know, just kids thinking around. And that's for the rocks,

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you know, no warning, just boombole rocks come Adam mctursey locations.

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And that's where I've gone too, was fifty inch track.

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So that happened. One guy stayed in my camper. He

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said he's seen him on there which he said he's

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seeing him afore him was like you said that one cute,

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you know, he said he had seen it and it

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was you know, he went back in the campa trying

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to get food or something to get into it, and

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it was gone. But that happened. I'm just trying to

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think it goes on and on. There's a lot of

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other engineings out that way with you know, people have

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seen her the swamp road, you know, have rocks chucked

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at him, you know, with glowing eyes were I know

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Saul Wing she locked her dog. He saw it across

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the road and maybe a hundred feet in front of

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her right now. They seemed across that one spot between

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the swamps the roads on you know, swamping east side.

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And it's it's been interesting. You know when I was

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when I phone those tracks that morning, the big twenty

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three in that when I was walking back where my

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kid and the van because we slept in a mini

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my mini van. Right when I was leaving, I heard

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it was you could not hear it, wallid, but there's

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a tree knock. When when I was leaving that, you know,

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when I was looking at all those tracks, yeah, I

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have to I heard a soft tree knock and the

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just you know, distant, but you can hear it. One

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time at the pixture up or house. Start sitting up

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there with eleven o'clock, I heard one tree knock way

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across the way into swamps trying to sinkle backers anymore.

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These are the ones that I lived through. I'm as

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good as and there's been any any other. You know,

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I've heard many stories from other people up in this area,

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but yeah, there's they're definitely up here.

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Speaker 2: What kind of stories have you heard from other people?

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Are they similar to the type of things you've experienced?

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Speaker 1: Various sightings? The guy I know one time he is

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out there as the lake on my fixer up. You're

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going on the dirt road and skated off. No, you

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still walk in and there's a lake, a little launch area,

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just sold spot with fire pitting, not real exciting. And

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one tiny I remember he went out and ran back

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to tolling. And even if you know dogs, they can't

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get wait on the car. They know you're in the woods.

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You can't wait to get out the door. When you

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got him mark the door. The dog ran in your

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tan't won't come out.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: You tried to give him, hot dog, you won't come out,

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you know, I mean he hid in that canton, wouldn't

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come out. I've heard various miss any stories of you know,

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people seeing them something. It's been over the years. I've

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heard different things of that. Once for that lake where

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eventually it goes to another lake and a river runs

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stalin And this is back in the night. Use him

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and his friend. We're sitting there. They were teenagers and you're,

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you know, sitting down here on one side of your

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swamp river and more swamped and goes the higher around it.

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You're sitting there smoking cigarettes, talking about girls or whatever.

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And there's a dog that had been missing from the

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neighborhood of two weeks. He could grow up aft area

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and there was a dog running around a tree stump

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on the other side, you know, swamp river swamps that

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are up there somewhere, and they thought it looked like

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a tree stumped. It got up a lot wait and

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the dog went with it. And then the dog was

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never seen again. And then it really wanted to tell

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what over his dog it was, Oh, this is well,

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But that was another one I know of. And in

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that little Lotle cow more towards town there was a

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when you were kids. They're probably you know, mid teens

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or something. There was maybe about four or five of

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the Cristal podcast list. I don't know, but you can't

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remember what the titleist. But they're watching over in the distance,

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you know, on the other side of the road and

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further it is the shills in the distance, and you're watching.

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It looked like a jogger and a white suit running

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along the top of the box, you know, and all

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of a sudden he did this jump. It looked like

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you ever see the six million dollar Man when you

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were just boom, you know, and you're like, that ain't

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a jogger. And the next day they went up after

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we get later after school the next day went up

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and looked at you know that whoever it was me

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like about an eight or night would jump up that

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little cliff and kept going wow. So it wasn't a jogger.

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I remember this various sightings, but there's a couple of

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are real, you know. I remember up and we're right

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in town here with a wire drank. I mean there's

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a lot of wood smounting that area. But up on

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that I've heard that somebody pound tracks and literally he

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had a pit bull and moved away because he an'

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MUD's dog can come lunch. Another guy I know just

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throw him onund about a half hour west to meet up.

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Was called Champion Area and he is go up to

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high lean back maybe a half a mile and I've

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been back or went or twice. I don't really know

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the area. But his neighbor had three pit bulls fast

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stand just sort of mean up maybe two summers ago,

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and one's missing, one was dead in the backyard. One

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they phoned half of it. But a block away. Oh wow,

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you know what would take out three pit bulls? Yeah,

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you know, and have his strength to rip really rip

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one and half. But they phone half the dog. You know,

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there's been dog, a couple of reports the dog man

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fur the rest of there just scattered up here, a couple,

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but you always one of the two. You know, no

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person's going to do that, you know, and one's missing,

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one's dead, and you know no obviously a gunshots, snap

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neck or some one's a blockwave ripped in half fucking

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do that. But those are the big ones that come

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to mine abort, you know. Various the guy, the professional guy,

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I know, he's had rocks chucked at him. He was

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a guy that gout on Alaska and stuff. He's really good.

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So many times and all that He's like, no, I

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don't go looking for them anymore. I still out in

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the woods, but I don't try to go deliverer in

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their turf. I better else, you know, one of those

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rocks he's going to strike home and crack me in

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the malin kind of yelp. So he does not actively

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look for him anymore.

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Speaker 2: That incident with the rock throwing in your kid that

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I'm trying to think. I can't think of very many

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stories where rock throwing resulted in someone actually being hit.

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Speaker 1: Well, one kid got hit in hand. He was bleeding

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that severe. But you know it isn't a huge rock.

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But yeah, I mean literally on the viadle. You could

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see when he ran from one hind from one side

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house over towards the dryway side. I mean, rocks were

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coming over the house. This is when I was old,

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two story twelve twelve pitch rolls. I mean it's got

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to height, you know. Yeah, I couldn't throw something over

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at it, but dry I mean, and there went on

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top of a camper. There was a pretty good sized

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rock that it came from the underside of the house

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and stuff, or maybe it tossed over the right No,

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not directly over the house, but right you know, behind

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the edge of it. I'm not really sure once I'd

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like to go through that thin film by film. It

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was a rock that must have been like, no it

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can you know, something you could pick up and toss

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maybe fifteen twenty feet if you're really good. But you know,

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it came like from the other side of the yard,

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you know, maybe over the house or maybe over there's

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a little back porch, or probably over the quart but

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huge distance and it landed you know, the distance to

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the house, the distance of the driveway which is an

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old street, and landed on the camp or on the

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other side. It took an arm to do that. Yeah,

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And so he got that one kid got nicked and

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Henry's bleeding. My kid got nicked with got you the

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pro rock thing in the head and he was bleeding.

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And you know, that's when I have to After the

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other two came running up, the older ones. There's a

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guy and his girl open there about twenty They came

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running up like what's going on? And they ended up

475
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hiding udar, their thrill heighten under that camper, and then

476
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,279
you decided it was better to run down hill to

477
00:21:11,319 --> 00:21:13,440
the coldy sack where you know there's a couple of hogs.

478
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,359
But they did that, and they consider it was skilled

479
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,240
stuff coming down at them, and that's sort of where

480
00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:19,240
it ended though. I mean, you were down close through

481
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,200
to Hollis and stuff or they didn't you know, whatever

482
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,000
was going after him deciding up it isn't took off. Yeah,

483
00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:27,079
and since they're multiple location, there probably would have been

484
00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:27,799
two or three of them.

485
00:21:28,599 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that sounds like something pretty intense. You know,

486
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,400
you don't really hear about you don't hear about rock throwing,

487
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:41,480
but uh, that seems pretty severe, especially on kids like that.

488
00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:45,960
Have you ever noticed like anything damaged or missing from

489
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,640
that location?

490
00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 1: Not so much damage, everything missing. We know it is

491
00:21:50,759 --> 00:21:53,480
local vermin. I've had breakings from local vermin, but nothing

492
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,359
that's been on that match here that would be that

493
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,640
you know, big hairy guy. It's just you know, very

494
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,680
slow life here. So if there's something to see, you know,

495
00:22:01,799 --> 00:22:03,559
the kind of stuff storing there, you know, probably end

496
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,240
up in a pawn shop, but nothing that like that.

497
00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:10,400
You know, the prints at one time them and rocks

498
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,640
chucked at him. You know, the guy that seem the

499
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,400
camper for a while. He had said he saw saw

500
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,240
it right, you know, fifty feet from the camper, thirty

501
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,160
feet not far at all, blind at the bushes, some

502
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,839
trees there. Yeah, and you know, just curious those swamps,

503
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,920
you know, like I said, kid, the older kid that

504
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,680
was talking about was peddling. He's got a buddy that

505
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,599
lives on you. You know, there's on a couple of streets

506
00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:31,599
from my street to go over a block. His buddy

507
00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:33,119
lives there, so you always hang out sort of in

508
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,160
the middle of nowhere. But he was pedaling home and

509
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,200
he had a rock chucked out of her swamp. He

510
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,000
said he saw the sort of glowing red eyes. Oh yeah,

511
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,599
my friends was up there. You after, I had its

512
00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:44,720
own lock cat. I was hoping you get more done.

513
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,079
It good, trying to make to play a company little

514
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,359
kids over that no like for you know, kid toys.

515
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,279
I pick up up them you found on the sidewalk

516
00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:53,119
for free, and I never.

517
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,319
Speaker 2: Got to it.

518
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: I say, hey, if you want to go get him

519
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,119
like you went after and you know, she asked. It

520
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,279
was a weird hour, but she went up there. I

521
00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:00,960
don't know, sometimes dark out, you know, and well but

522
00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:02,920
you know she you know, like locate it, and she

523
00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:05,519
saw it or used to be an old wad cabin

524
00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:07,759
there that eventually clapped. They'd use it like a steward

525
00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:10,039
for the mean house three years. But there's an old

526
00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:13,359
dabbing from the eighteen hundreds and something was you know,

527
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,240
like big Poto like spider call. You know, yeah, it

528
00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:18,920
was about not real high, but it's a glowing blue

529
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,200
eyes that you know, sort of like kikaboo order for

530
00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:24,599
a while up there and just you know, like I said,

531
00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:27,039
there is you know where that guy'sped to rock toss

532
00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:29,279
and that just swamped the road coming in through the swamp.

533
00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:31,599
There a friend of mine, he was walking her dog

534
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,279
right in a seeing area, a little bit poor, was

535
00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:36,720
a really wigged like to cross and she saw him.

536
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:38,640
You know, shedn't need the eight one hundred feet from there,

537
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,960
she saw one crossed across the road, you know, from

538
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,720
one side, just rode swamp at the other and she here,

539
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:46,200
he lives on the other side of the hill. He

540
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,759
hears a lot of noise in other swamps. So you know,

541
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:50,480
I think they might be going in there looking for

542
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:51,400
food of some kind.

543
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,319
Speaker 2: A lot of the things that you've mentioned involved dogs.

544
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,720
What do you think is going on? Do you think

545
00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:00,960
they see dogs as like a potential food source or

546
00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,440
a threat or what do you think there deal is

547
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,359
with the dogs?

548
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,799
Speaker 1: From what I've had, sort of a combination of the two.

549
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,400
I you know, I've read accounts of you know them,

550
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,519
they don't like dogs, consider h a threat, and you

551
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,440
consider him food too. So it could have been you

552
00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:20,680
know that one, the one where the guy saw it,

553
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:22,480
you know, he thought it was a stump and it

554
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:24,839
I was just running around, you know, the dog had

555
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,799
been missing for a while. Who knows when he ran

556
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:28,599
into that squatch glad he thought it was something to

557
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:31,759
play with, and yeah, you know, or who knows they

558
00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:33,960
had just encomorded each other for the first time. Who knows.

559
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,160
You know, you're just happening in the right place at

560
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,400
the right time, and you're you know, two teen years

561
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,359
smoke a cigarettes, talking about girls or whatever, and way

562
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,359
across the swamps, he just you know, they wrote, oh, look,

563
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,079
did you missing dog running around a stump? And you know,

564
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:47,960
not too long. I don't know how long he sat

565
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,319
there went on, but the dog, this stump stood up

566
00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:53,559
and locked away. You know it was this. It wasn't

567
00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:55,440
a stump, was a squatch and the dog went with it.

568
00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:57,440
And the dog was never seen again. You know, it

569
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,960
could have just been at The dog just happened running

570
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:02,480
to him at that time, who knows.

571
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: And got lucky and found a friendly squatch.

572
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,559
Speaker 1: Who might have decided to do with stasty later the

573
00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:08,599
dog was never seen again.

574
00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it might have something to do with how

575
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,559
the dogs react to them too, you know.

576
00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:17,559
Speaker 1: Right right, you know that location an. The other one

577
00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:20,880
was the pit bulls. There may be thirty miles apart,

578
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,039
roughly at twenty thirty. I know there's camp be a

579
00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:28,200
ways from us, so you're some disitions. You know. It

580
00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:30,160
was probably a different clan I've heard of, you know,

581
00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:33,200
it seems to be different clans up hearing different locations

582
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,519
further south of there. When of my friends were a

583
00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:37,920
kid and a couple with friends where that would have

584
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,279
made the ten miles south or something. They were out

585
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:44,240
riding or four wheel there's dirt bikes whatever, and they

586
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,359
stopped in there is this big you know, something big

587
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,480
shaked in a tree in addistance, and they took off

588
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,839
you know, they's like some big shake in that tree.

589
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,799
It must have been not too happy, but I'm and

590
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:55,440
they just took off. I remember hearing a story years ago.

591
00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:58,599
I remember all the details, and not too too far

592
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,039
from that, there's a camp on a river out in

593
00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:05,200
the middle of nowhere, and they like, you know, people

594
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:08,319
swim in the river and common rock tosses out there

595
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,880
and various other things. I've heard various stories, so they're

596
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,759
commonly seen in that area, and it's not uncommon for

597
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,359
far side the river. People are just swimming at some

598
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,119
weird hour and boom, big old rocks complaining. And there's

599
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,119
no camps or something that crafts from there. It just

600
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,880
would it's like private. I saw our of privates. They

601
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,160
got a little bit of the area, but it was

602
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,720
almost too many private signs or maybe camps further up.

603
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:32,200
But I've looked on the maps. Nothing right across from there,

604
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:33,200
but woods.

605
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: Now are all these different areas connected by that river

606
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,880
that you talked about.

607
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple of different rivers there. That one's

608
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,039
that would be a different river Oka, but that location

609
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,599
right there would be I don't know, ten twelve miles

610
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:50,480
for my fixture up or house where you know, they

611
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:53,119
just like a crew were going to cover a good area. Yeah,

612
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,240
even kayacha to move around because they can't see and

613
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,440
when spot all the critters will leave, you know. Yeah,

614
00:26:57,559 --> 00:27:01,000
so I'm assuming they cover up there. The good territory

615
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:03,720
of a clan coup a pretty good territory, I'm guessing.

616
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,240
But those are close enough. I think it's all the

617
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,480
same plan. I'm not sure.

618
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,519
Speaker 2: Do you hear a lot of vocalizations.

619
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:14,839
Speaker 1: I haven't. I don't know if other people have. Like

620
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,279
I said, I heard one tree knock winch up there

621
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:21,759
and swamps or in additions it was long sometimes you know,

622
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,559
during weather conditions, someone very better than other times. And

623
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:28,839
yeah with you the cow, it just like some something

624
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,960
big whack the tree, a big big stick, you know, funk.

625
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:33,920
It was just one of them that was yet it

626
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,720
was like cat night or something. But one single knock

627
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:39,400
a loved one.

628
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,039
Speaker 2: What about stick formations? Do you see any of those?

629
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: I've seen ban over trees, but sometimes it's hard to

630
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,440
tell if they're natural because we get a lot of

631
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:52,720
heavy winter up here and they'll bench stuff over or

632
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,519
if it's you know, not natural. Some I think appeared

633
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:58,000
like over a trail or something review just one. I've

634
00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:02,319
seen something like a tripod that could have just been formed,

635
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:04,359
you know, trees coming down, but it was or could

636
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,079
have flif a clant. Sometimes you don't know right, you

637
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,839
know it is it real or distant from ri sclatch

638
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,880
or just nature just landed that way. You know. It's

639
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,880
hard to tell. Yeah, but stories of people seeing one

640
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,359
across the road or driving along they see one running

641
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,279
in the woods, you know, and then like a more

642
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,039
clear area know that wup, what is that? You know?

643
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,480
But I've had you know, it was various incidents myself,

644
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:27,279
my kid. That was a pretty crazy one, you know.

645
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,440
And just the size of those rocks around and that

646
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:34,000
and that big cannibal looking thing where I mean I

647
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:35,279
took it. I don't know what it was full, but

648
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,319
it was just so heavy. I mean, I'm about one fifty.

649
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,480
I'm not just average building. I'm not great, but m hm,

650
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,640
where I could meet through it if I was a

651
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,359
lucky eight or ten feet I mean and went green

652
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,200
and yelta do would just go straight and drop. You know,

653
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,480
it was heavy. It was really heavy. Yeah, the idea

654
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:52,839
that thing went flying and or I know exactly where

655
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,200
it sat before even if they've carried it, you know,

656
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,720
another fifty years, I'm still the thing that was flying

657
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,960
over to you know. Yeah, I would have been for

658
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,519
high ground a little, but I mean if foul and

659
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:03,519
probably a good one hundred fifty feet, i'd have to

660
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:05,680
be like eat on a white screen. I could achieve

661
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,680
better on it at my aga end. But it went

662
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:11,400
a huge distance that I couldn't even imagine doing.

663
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,359
Speaker 2: Now, did something pick it up and carry it off

664
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:19,000
and then throw it or was it thrown from a

665
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:20,240
position where it's always been.

666
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,599
Speaker 1: I'm not sure either way, just the fact that it was,

667
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,400
you know, even if they picked it up and carried

668
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,039
it part way down the hill and tossed it something

669
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,079
I can control, you know, about eight feet when even

670
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,680
it was only halfway down the hill and what at

671
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,920
least went like fifty sixty feet. Yeah, I mean were

672
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:39,960
you know, I couldn't even hold a candle to that,

673
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:43,119
you know, and you know it was something really big

674
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,599
to do that, yeah, you know, and this it was

675
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,000
a huge, huge, huge, huge hwan. You know they decided

676
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:50,720
to go wrest some little kids. Yeah, it's just it

677
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,880
doesn't make sense. But I still got that thing. I

678
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,000
should have traded it, it got any princh off or

679
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,599
I didn't even think of that, but I still got

680
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,960
I kept it after that, whatever it was in it,

681
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:02,519
you know, I don't know if the kids drained it

682
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,039
or whatever. It was heavy at the time. Yeah, but

683
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:07,599
those are the ones that come to mind. I mean

684
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,240
I've heard, you know. I mean, like I said, the

685
00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:11,839
guy you know is a guy. He lives away from

686
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:14,960
away from me, but he there a number of rock

687
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,319
tosses he's had, and he spawned tracks and you know,

688
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,880
even in winter he spawned where the cross the road lines,

689
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,519
he said, some interesting adventures. I've had my share. Spring's coming.

690
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:26,440
I want to get out and look.

691
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: See.

692
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: I got a theory that you know, after a long

693
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,839
hard winter, you know, the spring run off or I

694
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:37,640
mean the spring fish runs right, Yeah, when the fish

695
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,799
co op rivers spawned. My theory is that, I mean,

696
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,240
we look out how the tribe the centuries to go

697
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,160
and you get a lot of clues. Okay, like in

698
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,960
Sue Saint Marie and the eastern up of Michigan where

699
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,960
the Sue locks are, you know where that is. Tanned

700
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,680
As almost had ups on outer and he crossed over

701
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,720
to Canada as the sue locks there well before the

702
00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:01,240
locks or editors, like a rapets you couldn't take a

703
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,559
boat from you know, from the other lakes up the

704
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,920
Superior there's a rapids and this you dragged it unrollers

705
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,960
across the rapids and put it back in the water.

706
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,160
You know there's no way their rapids. But didn't Eve

707
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,400
see what you get those rocks in the rapids and

708
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,440
fish and like it was a sort of you know,

709
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,519
other tribes to come in during a fish run time

710
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:20,920
and you know the resident tribe didn't mind if others

711
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,480
team and you know there's more fish than they could

712
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,160
ever catch up. Wasn't very populated and hundreds of years ago.

713
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,920
But where Serbo commune that you know, anybody can come

714
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,640
under our turf you're in a fish run and take

715
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,319
money fishes. They lock you off the long winter and

716
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:36,640
then leave. You know with Srbo Communal Cooperative Kiddiel there

717
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,799
I suspect that the during the spring fish runs there's

718
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:44,599
the squashes. You know, they all have their turf, their territories.

719
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:46,920
You know it's a migrator or something. But we're just

720
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,680
like the tribes. They probably are, Okay, okay, you can

721
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,640
come on our turf. All the fisher here it's been

722
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,640
a long winter coming and eat, you know. Yeah, And

723
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,920
that's what I suspect it's going to be happening suing

724
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,920
with the spring fish runs. That's different clans can meet,

725
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:04,559
you know, they're keeping no two, but asles looking for

726
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:06,440
a meat'll start to meet each other. Stuff like that.

727
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it makes sense.

728
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,039
Speaker 1: That was my theory. And when I was reading, I

729
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:12,720
do a lot of history research too. Now that's all

730
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,319
the tribes he did at at Susa Marine or Rappage

731
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:17,960
are that you know, sort of became a communal thing

732
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,839
when when the fish are run and come on in

733
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,440
and you know there's more than anywhere can never eat,

734
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,599
especially up a lot after a long winter. You know,

735
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,720
the tribes put very easter ride and winters still it

736
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:29,759
was pretty garsh. We get some winters up there, and

737
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:31,640
then while across the bridge, like I do a lot

738
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,519
of research them, we're and this is a lot further

739
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,720
south than us even where they you know, if you

740
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:38,759
go twenty miles north or south, you can feel that

741
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,839
the winter different in winter, you know, and further so

742
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:45,119
is good th reading tell a difference, but it's there'll

743
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,400
be a cross into the lower peninsul waste alling there

744
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,400
the tribes, one tribe had to build every fall they

745
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:52,359
were going into winter. This is how bad it is.

746
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,119
Say take all the week old and firm that they

747
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:57,839
couldn't afford to carry through the winter, and you know

748
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,400
they'd all start up. But they try to keep you know,

749
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,240
load amma, and you know, all the old people and

750
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400
set them on the raft out to see and wave

751
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,079
them to the lake and wave goodbye with that tight

752
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,599
to make it through the winter. So I look at

753
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,720
is you know it's it's the toughest arrival up. The

754
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,200
tribes head of that top one's here would have a

755
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640
they move and follow the food. That's what I believe

756
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,200
the bakers also do, is follow the food sources. Just

757
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,200
where the tribes to the summer encampment was by a

758
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,079
lake near me. And in winter they would all just

759
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,920
go to break up and they have their own little

760
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,359
lodge and hope they get a moose over the winter

761
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,039
and meet comic can out of it and survive. You know,

762
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:34,759
every little family of their a little lodge. But they

763
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:36,839
would break up, and then you knew, you know, when

764
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,519
springtime came to beat up at this, you know, their

765
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:41,920
regular encampment site and nobody showed up you know, where

766
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,799
to go look for the bodies. Kind of deal it was.

767
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,119
You know, it was a rough up here for the tribes.

768
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,319
And if the ones up here, I don't know if

769
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,359
they stay here. Well, I know the tracks are been

770
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:54,519
iPhone tracks in the winter now those to them, and

771
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,720
hell the guy they know has so I mean, I

772
00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:58,720
know some of them stay up here, some may migrate,

773
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:02,319
the tribes up here, some of them during different times

774
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,640
migrate into like nor with a northern Wisconsin for the

775
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,800
warmer weather and make it through the winter. So and so,

776
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:11,960
you know, some of them escape where they're at, but different,

777
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,840
you know, different, same the same. There was confederation of

778
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880
tribes up here with you know, the Chipwall, the Dawa

779
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,280
and Arwami, you know sort of you know where like

780
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,119
a clan or a theme group. Yeah, so they would

781
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,039
some of them apparently had enough okay that they can

782
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:30,760
come down in your turf better and the dead winter

783
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,840
and you'll be cool at Randa Deale and the mom

784
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,519
disrupted out on site depending what you know, and they

785
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,719
mid do with there's I've been in like ancient fishing

786
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,840
sites where they're process fishing probably, Like no, it's like

787
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,760
you make chemic in or jerky or you know, dry

788
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,679
it out. Yeah, from tribes thousands of years ago. Like,

789
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,840
there's a lot of interesting history up the tribes. But

790
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,440
I'd believe that a lot of the cluest line understanding

791
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,599
how the tribe survives.

792
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: Do you think that the Bigfoot have the same sort

793
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,920
of skill sets that some of those ancient tribes had.

794
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: I would think so. I don't know if they already

795
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:08,480
use fire or not. It's a big one. You know.

796
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,760
What I've read too, which made sense, is you know,

797
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,960
and I had a couple of questions I look at this, Okay,

798
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:18,920
it's like they would I've read like you ever have

799
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,079
you ever done any composting for a a garden?

800
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

801
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: Ever stick your hand in that compost? Yeah, yo, you

802
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,440
know you do it once, you know, do it? Toy?

803
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: Right? All right?

804
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: Well, what I always remember reading like, but I read

805
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,599
somewhere bake put to do is find the spocket, when

806
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,360
to build your little watch or better for the winter,

807
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,440
and dig up the dirt, you know, take it. Don't

808
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,159
keep mixing your there, you know, take a don't mix

809
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:43,639
it in the dirt, mixing in the dirt, you know,

810
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,239
like probably later in the year where you're gonna have

811
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,639
like basically almost like a compost and then they're gonna leave.

812
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,280
They like always no theater or pine over it and

813
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,800
build it a lot you know where that won't smell

814
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,639
too good, but you're gonna it's gonna kick out some

815
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:58,159
heat through the winter and keep you freezing. You know. Yeah,

816
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,800
I've read they do that, but I haven't seen any firsthand,

817
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,079
and sort of wonder, like they say they buries are dead,

818
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:04,639
but I'm like, what do they do in the dead

819
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,440
of winter when you know you've got five feet of

820
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,639
snow and the groans like a rock? You know, how

821
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:12,039
would they do that? I mean technically if they had

822
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,400
tool you know, basic tools, right, you know, rocks that

823
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,519
you could use almost as like a try would do

824
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:18,679
to chip away, and you know they built mounts or

825
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,199
dig you know and dig our ditch or whatever. You know,

826
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,800
it's possible you could do that in the dead winter,

827
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,559
but it wouldn't be easy. You're digging You're gonna have

828
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:26,880
to do with them digging for that. I sort of

829
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,599
wonder what do they do in winter when wonder there

830
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:29,239
was past as.

831
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: You know, maybe they just uh, you know, hold on

832
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,920
to the bodies until the thaw.

833
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: That's possible too, you know. The do the tribes up here,

834
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,360
it would just bury about grownd they just ad burials.

835
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,000
We bury. They would just bring you to your a

836
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:48,079
certain certain location and put you in your belongings there

837
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:49,360
and let mother nature take over.

838
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

839
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: And then they had a burial place to the cheeps

840
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,559
where they would build like a little picture of bowling

841
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:57,719
balls about pulling ball sized rocks, maybe about a twelve

842
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,599
or fifteen foot circle, and they would i ridge state,

843
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:03,360
put the chief in there with his belongings, and they

844
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,519
chewed a deer for its with the deer with hillmil

845
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:09,119
for his food for his journey to the next next

846
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:10,840
world or real they call it, you know in their religion,

847
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:13,960
but after world after like a you're gonna call it.

848
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,039
But no, that's how the tribes get it up here.

849
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,199
Speaker 2: Is there plenty of cover up there for them to

850
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,559
move around from spot to spot like that during the

851
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:25,400
cold months?

852
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:29,079
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, I'm and I don't know.

853
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: You know.

854
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: The thing is, there's so many snowmobilers and hikers and

855
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,880
explorers nowadays that I started wonder if they sort of

856
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,679
like you know, stock true toa like you know, maybe

857
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,000
dehyrate like they need to make Peican, you know, yeah,

858
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:43,559
store food in a lay or roots schedules or whatever

859
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:45,800
they eat, and you know, maybe they have a place

860
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,599
and they don't move around so much if they got

861
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,039
a little you know, like I said, a little hut

862
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:53,320
with you know, the compost. But I don't think they

863
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,320
would move as much because you know, you don't people

864
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,280
don't iPhone tracks. But in others how but it's not common,

865
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,480
you know, yeah, you have tore out all the time

866
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:05,519
with the amount of snow over theres and hunt outdoors

867
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:09,480
people you know, people with buying tracks more often. So

868
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,400
I don't know if they go so through a sort

869
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,599
of hunker down and have foods stashed away. You know.

870
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,119
Speaker 2: I've kind of got this theory about the rock throwing

871
00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:22,119
thing where I think that it's a something that they

872
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,760
do whenever they get frustrated and want somebody to leave

873
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,320
an area.

874
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, that's I think too. And in this case,

875
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:30,559
why would they were you know, it's a it's a

876
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:32,159
house for they are, I know, if they were just

877
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:35,679
decided to be you know Bill Kynes that about or

878
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,079
board or whatever. But you know, there could have been Julie's.

879
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:41,159
You know, even though they're besides rocks, he says, juveniles,

880
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,480
you know, it makes us look like rock shell. Yeah,

881
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,119
my guess is some gug glass growing around. But I

882
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:48,920
really don't know.

883
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm wondering from like some of the encounters that you're

884
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,800
talking about. I mean, you've got a tremendous amount of

885
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,360
rock throwing incidents going on up there. I'm wondering if

886
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,800
it's uh maybe they're kind of hurting for territory. Maybe uh,

887
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,320
it might be more territorial around there, like a lot

888
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,280
a lot of them living in a small area.

889
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,039
Speaker 1: Well with the guy he the ways away from me

890
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,480
and five there be in woods area. He's even more

891
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:21,079
on the end of the earth. Okay, but so that

892
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,039
would be different clans. But I know that, you know,

893
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:26,000
he really was going he can. He's incredible how to

894
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,480
this is now, it's just incredible that I mean he

895
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:30,960
tends to going to you know, like I said, he

896
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,719
would go into what you know, would be prime curve

897
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,199
for them, and he would you know, go into the

898
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,119
areas that he knew is that these are the kind

899
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,599
of spaces I'll find them, And he would find them

900
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,440
a lot and must got close enough where he didn't

901
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,360
see them. But you know, when trying he had a

902
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,119
big tree shaking out in the middle nowhere. I think

903
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:49,960
he stopped to look at a map or something. There

904
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:54,239
was big trees by ambassare shaking. And you know he's

905
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,000
had a lot enough incidents where he tried to stay

906
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,760
out of their turfs because he doesn't want to get

907
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,840
any more rocketing at I mean, one gun get lucky,

908
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:02,639
and that that would be different plans from from my

909
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,360
area either the way either way from me, you know,

910
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,440
so it would be a different area completely. But and

911
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:11,119
there's up well in our film meters I know, town

912
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:13,800
called rock and I haven't I wish you know who

913
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,280
the people were, but I guess they had so much

914
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,800
you know, them coming in and pounding under house or whatever.

915
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,760
Then an ongoing issue for I guess klay well with

916
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,320
them up there. And it's another middle of nowhere place.

917
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,559
I know there had been up in that area of

918
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:27,159
some sightings. Still it's maybe an hour away from me

919
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,079
or close an hour.

920
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: Do you ever hear stories from the area that have

921
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,519
any of the paranormal stuff going on with them?

922
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,599
Speaker 1: Damn no, I mean they are a fair amount U

923
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,960
Post sidings up here, But as far as direct linkage

924
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,519
to the two, no, I've never heard of anything correct

925
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:45,159
between the two.

926
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,679
Speaker 2: Any ORB sidings.

927
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,119
Speaker 1: I've not directly tied to them, but I've heard ORB

928
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,320
sightings and I've seen it. I had a pretty incredible

929
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000
video about up coming down and broke up into pieces

930
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,000
and more pieces right up in Insollan here and I'm

931
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,119
he showed it to me on his phone, and you

932
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:04,559
know he didn't have mirrornet. You know, he's actually broke

933
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:07,239
the process of getting evicted. It was pretty incredible, and

934
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,119
you could see right where I mean I grew in

935
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:10,960
a small tone. I knew, I knew exactly there was

936
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,480
that pole. There was that you know, I knew exactly

937
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,159
where it was redcraft. He was walking his dog. It

938
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:16,760
must have been there for a while, you walking his dog.

939
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,119
He said he had run there. I always get his

940
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:21,400
fallen And there was apartment only shot a video that

941
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,480
you know, broke up and just wallichmaller pieces and then

942
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:27,440
just disappeared, you know. And once again it was near

943
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,159
open fit all open. ID suspect you ople is my

944
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,199
use underwater open you know, like we got a lot

945
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,480
of hold in mineterior open pits for me eten hired

946
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:38,320
and tunnels of stuffy or sometimes they suspected if they

947
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,039
might go underwater and hide. It was. It was in

948
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:42,880
that direction of my little open pit that I know

949
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,679
has tunnel lying. But he showed it to me and

950
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:47,239
I wanted to get I said, well, you know, you

951
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,000
have me internet on a small where you're throwing minutes

952
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:50,880
And like I said, you supposed to gett kicked out

953
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,039
of the apartment. And I said, I'll catch you later

954
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,840
into it. And then his phone got the screen. I

955
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,559
think you can't get into it. We still got the phone,

956
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,199
so maybe there's a way to get into it to

957
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:02,360
get a copy of that. But I knowing something gay,

958
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,960
I wouldn't made a video of a video, you know.

959
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,960
And but he was in a hurry. So I'll tetch

960
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,760
you next time in my bucket. Oh yeah, there's some

961
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,960
interesting stuff out here. And you know, and people if

962
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:13,639
you know a guy, I know him, his body went

963
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:15,760
out righting out north and they saw one and went

964
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,519
you know. In addition, you know, like Plinty at a

965
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:21,320
point b like nothing could move like that, and you

966
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,559
know they're pretty deep and the boonies when that happened.

967
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:27,280
That happened, I know, I think was it. It's you

968
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,480
know within a was in the last year apparent of

969
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,800
things exactly when I think it was fall. But there's

970
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,199
you know, it's been a pair of stuffing on the

971
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,480
stuff up here. It's pretty crazy and you know, just

972
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:40,280
various stories of that. I'd probably say him out the valve,

973
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,239
but I can't remember. But people seem, you know, like

974
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,880
I said, just crossing the road or something. You know,

975
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,639
there's a number of incidents. And there also another thing

976
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:48,039
out here with that, like I said, I went to

977
00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:51,360
where they got burieders. I know there are tribal burial

978
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,400
moments up here, and sometimes I wonder if you know

979
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,159
anything that's buried and now you know, or if their moins,

980
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,719
I know, if they're burial Mounagy venders one calls a

981
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,400
burier place to the ancients, which there's two stories that

982
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,440
occurred that I don't know if the same story told

983
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,800
about the same location after we're after different locations. It's

984
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,320
unique up here. Tribes pretty much a lot of the

985
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,960
reservations up here, they're never forcibly relocated like you over

986
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,400
Oklahoma or whatever.

987
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were.

988
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: You know, they got a reservation where their traditional grounds

989
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,679
were quite often, so you know there's a lot of

990
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,719
They got to stay where they were they're originally call them,

991
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,199
and the tip was here, Ronnie up here for about

992
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,239
five hundred years. They got pushed west by the Iroquois.

993
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,760
There was other tribes here before, but it seemed like

994
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,639
the tribes seemed to get the men before the white

995
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:42,119
man pushed west west west, you know, a soccer tribe

996
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:42,840
to push them Furli.

997
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

998
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's through a lot of unique tribal history up here.

999
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,920
I'm learning more and more about and you know you

1000
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:52,320
learn from about that, and so what carries over to

1001
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,000
the squatches?

1002
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I found the same thing here. You know, the

1003
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:01,719
age old question are these things human? Are they animal?

1004
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,039
Speaker 1: What?

1005
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:03,079
Speaker 2: What do you think they are?

1006
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,639
Speaker 1: Were everything I've read Scissor's they're like park human in

1007
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,559
part unknown. We don't really know, Like I mean, they

1008
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,719
have like a pliny for example, it's about the muscles,

1009
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,079
and you know, a jimper something like that, or a

1010
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,639
monkey something that you know, a gorilla there were like

1011
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,639
your muscles. They know their pound for pound compared to

1012
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,760
human or like ten times stronger, right, and things seem

1013
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,079
to be with a squatch. I mean, I think there's

1014
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:34,119
human in down, but there's something else that we don't

1015
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:37,440
really know yet. It's like I mean, and there's enough

1016
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,679
you upo incidents that are out there that where I'm

1017
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,559
thinks there might be some kind of joint relation between

1018
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,239
the two. I mean, I know you know where you know,

1019
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,800
I mean where the ex parent who knows. I mean

1020
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:54,320
it's like memory, like a year was there a year

1021
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,360
or so ago? The drones out east? Yeah, like I

1022
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,159
was on a Navy base out there, and and relationships there.

1023
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:03,639
I mean things that go a big, big boom now

1024
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,239
after nine to eleven, you know they I mean I've

1025
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,960
been here when you're drunk fisherman and get too close

1026
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,679
to the piers the three mile cure. So if the

1027
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,400
thing goes boom, hopefully you know, take the time with

1028
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,880
your kind of the elk foll of bombs. And he

1029
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,480
had to ride a school bus and up and down

1030
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,480
the pier, you know, and you know, catch a bus

1031
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:21,480
catch the west the usually team if you're coming to

1032
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,119
get catch that you are to trail like to go

1033
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:24,760
to la you know, each went the wrong way. But

1034
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:28,039
it was and I'm in there when it was some

1035
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:30,440
drunk fishermen got too close. It's in a little small

1036
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,119
boat and you know they were in a bullhorn. Get

1037
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:34,559
all here, you know, after it was and even Listing

1038
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:36,400
got close, but he was graping up in the microphone

1039
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,159
and he went this in or microphone got fired, warning

1040
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,239
shot in the air straight out. But you know it

1041
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,360
will you know, give you a warning shot and they

1042
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,039
screw around. You know. It's a weapons based yeah, And

1043
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,239
the fact that there was it was drone they called

1044
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,760
them drones or whatever they were, came over Sandy Hook

1045
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,880
and went right past that beast and then get shot at.

1046
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:56,760
Keep in mind, I mean, you know there were that

1047
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,000
happened a year or two ago. You probably remember. But

1048
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,639
the Ukraine been going on for a while and you're watching,

1049
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:04,119
you know, a little small not much bigger on a

1050
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:06,519
hobby drone taking out Abram's tanks. They know these things

1051
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:08,679
can do damage. And you've got ammunition ships there. You know.

1052
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,280
They they have maritime patrol boats and they probably by

1053
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,920
then had some kind of a more advanced defense, I know,

1054
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,960
faylings or something, I know if fany things is. But

1055
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,880
now they don't crew around. I mean, you know, you

1056
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,760
put a whole in started my weapons ship and they

1057
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,440
hit their holding the right place, you're gonna make a

1058
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,719
big boom. Yeah, if it's if it's loaded. Hell, but

1059
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,679
you could keep It's not hard to figure out, you know.

1060
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,880
These days, you could set up up, you know, a

1061
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,000
basic security like a telephoto or something and just keep

1062
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,960
an eye on what comes and goes. You don't feel

1063
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,239
way you wanted to. So, I mean, I know the

1064
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,519
it's a weapon space and it was around he's drone

1065
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:42,119
game right over it, and they didn't get shot at.

1066
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:44,360
You know, I'm like something wrong with that bigger or

1067
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,840
drones or whatever they were, but I don't really think

1068
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,199
they were drones. But you know, I think there's some

1069
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,760
kind of relation between UFOs and them, but I'm not

1070
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:56,960
or if they just study them or if they had

1071
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,159
part of like creating, who knows. I don't really know

1072
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,719
the answer, but I believe Park human and Park when

1073
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,039
you know, but it's got that they have that primate strength.

1074
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:08,320
Like I said that, you know, everybody more you read

1075
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,159
about them, they only hear about and then picking up

1076
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,039
some pretty you know, even though those they're huge, to

1077
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:14,719
pick up something that's incredibly huge, that you know even

1078
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,599
that you could go pound for poller to human quint

1079
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:19,840
you know, just for like say your's I said, I'm here, No,

1080
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,639
you wouldn't even come close. Or they've seem to have

1081
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,400
that like primate strength, which I don't really know all that,

1082
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:29,679
but there's something I'm trying to learn. You know.

1083
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. That's something that I've

1084
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,519
talked to several people about. How like if they are

1085
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:40,639
in fact responsible for like tree twists. Let's just take

1086
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:44,400
something simple. If you had a human that was say

1087
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:47,199
seven eight foot tall, they wouldn't be able to do that.

1088
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: Right if they were you know, some whole cold and

1089
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,079
andred giant size human, one could I do what they do?

1090
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,239
That would be you know they had smaller squash it was,

1091
00:47:56,519 --> 00:47:59,000
you know they're roughly the same ley just huge, huge,

1092
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:01,800
huge human are small or squat? No, No, they do

1093
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,480
way more than that.

1094
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that thing that you're talking about that they

1095
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:11,199
chunked down the hill. Uh you know that matter how

1096
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,280
big all you think? Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter how

1097
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,239
big a human is.

1098
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,519
Speaker 1: I'd be lucky to hit ten feet. Yeah.

1099
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a strong man might be able to do

1100
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,239
fifteen twenty.

1101
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: But even if actually you give them thirty, this is

1102
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:26,719
like you no a tubo triple? What the strong man

1103
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,599
could do? You know, it's insane. Yeah, and actually my

1104
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:31,639
phone it was big, big prints. One thing that I

1105
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,400
find could be just could have been a human or otherwise.

1106
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,559
But you know, we're they're like twist a tree, you'll

1107
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:38,400
make it like old twirls, you know, just been there

1108
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,519
around and around. There was a good size of older

1109
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:43,760
pine yard that looked like so I'd have been done

1110
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,880
to that. I had been done to it. You know,

1111
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,719
it could have been a human or all squats who know,

1112
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,280
its full growing huge now, but it looked like when

1113
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,599
it was younger, it had been twisted like uh and

1114
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:54,159
then you know just grew, you know, yeah, because he

1115
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,559
was twisted all the way up. I think I get

1116
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:59,559
a picture out somewhere too. But those have been my

1117
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:03,679
advances in this. And I didn't only got out twice

1118
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,800
last chardy I mean lock yalous teams. Like when I

1119
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,320
listened to the guy, they'd have you know, maybe thirty

1120
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,440
you know, not every time, but a surprise in the

1121
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:13,199
high percentage on maybe thirty percent or so when I

1122
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:16,159
went out, wasn't a guarantee, but pretty high odds. When

1123
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:18,719
I was out took his advice. I'd come into something

1124
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,559
maybe every third trip. You know, it's it's pretty good.

1125
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:22,039
He was good.

1126
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:23,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good.

1127
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,599
Speaker 1: And that's incredibly good to be seeing most people have

1128
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:27,519
never seen, you know, you talk. You read these lifetime

1129
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:29,159
hunters up that I've been in the woods for the

1130
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,760
last fifty years of my life hunting stuff, and I've

1131
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,400
never seen anything to support them being there. You know. Yeah,

1132
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,440
he'll tell me and I'll have maybe you know, a

1133
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:38,440
one to three cans applying to something. You know, that's

1134
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:42,519
extremely good. Yeah, so he really knows the stuff. Guy,

1135
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:44,400
I should have a TV show or something. But I

1136
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:47,039
listened to him, and I listened to call or smart people.

1137
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:50,199
And I also believe that they have their own language

1138
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:52,639
to a degree different. Maybe there are different dialects through

1139
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:57,360
the North America, but there's these where they can, you know,

1140
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:00,840
not form speech like humans, but maybe maybe one hundred

1141
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,559
weard vocabear of different crunch or whatever you know, to

1142
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:06,079
the use that or No, they still gave me to

1143
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:09,079
teach a little samurai chatter. I've read too. In fact,

1144
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:11,280
I've heard of that out that that boat launch area

1145
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,639
that or you know, with the dam and a boat

1146
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:16,320
launch air. I remember hearing now you know people here

1147
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,400
in like chatter okay, and I've heard of them being

1148
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,599
like you know, the almost looks like glowing where there's

1149
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,119
a mine not too big, huge open pit minder and

1150
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,920
then like even at nights, you know, they run twenty

1151
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,880
four hours a day. I mean they got you know,

1152
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,480
I don't know if the UCLID truck is it. You know,

1153
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,880
it's you know, huge, looks like something off of transport

1154
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,320
where its they use these huge trucks and loaded, you know, huge,

1155
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,519
huge equipment, and you're the lights and sometimes that night

1156
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,760
to see like the globe the night in the night

1157
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,519
sky of all those lights, you know, well people talk

1158
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,760
about them sort of grolling of I remember hearing the

1159
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,280
perims that seame area. I'm trying to remember all the

1160
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,360
who told well when it's been forty years, you know

1161
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,000
where the team named like glowing or shimmering. Now what

1162
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:59,480
I've read, I think they're they're they're here and might

1163
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:04,079
have like are okay, almost like it all blend into

1164
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:06,400
the colors around it, and well if those lights are

1165
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,400
that bright, ringing, you could see it you know, and

1166
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,559
the nice sky is all that help under third conditions,

1167
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:14,440
maybe there's enough light where you're that that fur or

1168
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:16,559
hair where we're gonna call it with that howl shaft,

1169
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:19,079
would you know, absorb some of that light and help

1170
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:21,039
where it looks like almost like almost like that a

1171
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:23,760
little glow to them, you know. Yeah, And that's just

1172
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,960
my theory of it because I normally don't hear all

1173
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:29,920
things like that, you know. I think that that it

1174
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,480
does help them, help them the camouflage and blend into

1175
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,440
this into the background better almost like a natural camouflage.

1176
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,599
But the light would hit them howl and hair shafts

1177
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:42,000
and greatious enough where you get that chimming effect. You know.

1178
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,159
The mind's way away about you guys, such a huge

1179
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:45,760
amount of light there where you can keep from my mouth,

1180
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,199
you know. Yeah, it's just a theory, you know. Once again,

1181
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:50,960
I'm not saying I know, but that's my theory on it.

1182
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: Well, now I'm thinking about you know, things like fishing

1183
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,559
line for instance, and how the light can hit it

1184
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:02,199
at night and it kind of looks like a glowing right.

1185
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,199
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even think that's a good point something

1186
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:06,280
like that. Now where it seemed like a little bit

1187
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,840
of a shimmering effect, you know. Yeah, And you're right,

1188
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,599
it would be like almost like fishing lying, you know.

1189
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,480
You know, I'm once again it's not out my area

1190
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,239
of expertise, but that's my theory on it.

1191
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: So what's your main goal in all of this? Are

1192
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,000
you trying to prove them or are you just trying

1193
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,679
to have a siding.

1194
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: I like to have a sightings. I can playing prooffully.

1195
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,360
I'm all on it. I should have poured cast a

1196
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,119
couple of times. I got we're that summer. I phone them,

1197
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,199
I'll play more. I'll be back. I'll playing again. You know,

1198
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,000
big deal with you know, I'll part some catholater I

1199
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:42,480
never did all. You get back but you don't get

1200
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,320
that's the time you don't get lucky. Yeah, Like last summer,

1201
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,840
I only got out twice, but I you know, and

1202
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,960
one time guide it. It's real hot. Go into the

1203
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,760
river bottom as well. My kid with he's grown up,

1204
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,800
he's out and I own a kid and his wife

1205
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,480
and his daughter. They're from them. When Milwaukee's are not

1206
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:04,559
going to go, you know, into some of the crazy

1207
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:08,280
places I go, and I couldn't find to good access

1208
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,039
to what I've seen at thirteen, and I know it's

1209
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:11,840
a clan in that area, you know, thirteen, and then

1210
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,679
they're thirteen into Jubie. Yeah, and it's really hard. Where

1211
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,719
he said they'll be down on the river was fairribly

1212
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,199
hot on at the river bottoms. And I should have backtracked,

1213
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,119
you know, looking back, because I try one side and

1214
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:26,199
there's just that area that's just no good access, you know.

1215
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,119
And that's what I've learned. It is by accidenter design.

1216
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:32,519
It's all no roads, don't lead too far into there,

1217
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:34,960
and it's deep. One once, I just deep cliffs on

1218
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,519
the inn where you'd have a hard time getting down.

1219
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:39,800
But I'm going. And then I went to that forget it,

1220
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,079
I'm just going. And one about another half hour into

1221
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:44,280
that other location and the big, big one was but

1222
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,639
it was like swamps in that got rivers and you

1223
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,760
said I'll be down by the river bottoms, and I

1224
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,719
should have you know that one way or another. I'm

1225
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,400
going to have get my kid, and my kid. I

1226
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,599
was like, I knew the road where we was bound

1227
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:56,159
at thirteen into Juy and all and my other kid

1228
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:58,440
now and he's like when you have your kid, and

1229
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,320
he's like just go back there. I just I should

1230
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,880
have looked back on it, because I would have been

1231
00:54:04,039 --> 00:54:05,440
if we had set camp there and we could have

1232
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,519
hiked for some swamps and but we ended up back

1233
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:11,840
at another spot and we didn't see anything. But my

1234
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:14,719
bigger kids said he heard something big out soid the

1235
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,719
tent that night. Now I'd been burning bacon and a

1236
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,360
fire and stuff and you know, seeing it like a

1237
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,880
draw in. Yeah, but bake increase to stuff. But you know,

1238
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,000
he said he's heard something big outside the tent, but

1239
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,679
we didn't see anything. He wasn't gonna go stick this

1240
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,519
set out. Another time I was out there, I didn't

1241
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:31,920
find any tracks. But I didn't have my phone with

1242
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,760
me because my kid los his phones, like you know,

1243
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,760
he changed his underwear crunting beal and he los his

1244
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,800
some breaks and whatever. Well, I left him with my

1245
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,800
phone and I went at a flashmaker just left at

1246
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,400
my pocket and walked you know his knighte falling out

1247
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,559
there and then knock just moving like reape seet down

1248
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,199
you know, the you know the truth tractor. And I

1249
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,559
heard something and at first I thought it was wolf

1250
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:54,639
for yoat maybe you know, bark howling, barking, kind of thing,

1251
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:57,320
and I thought dog, you know, it changed so bad

1252
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,760
and then something like it was like in the woods.

1253
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,519
I wish I had a thrown limit or something. I

1254
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:03,119
didn't have my phone into you know, that's why I'm

1255
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:04,960
so mad. I let him have the phone to play,

1256
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,000
you know, play video or play games on the phone.

1257
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,280
Let go with And if I didn't my phone, I

1258
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,079
would recorded it. But Danie Stone, so bird different bird solids,

1259
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,360
and it's just you know, it kept chinking. Solent are

1260
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,679
in a distance and it was in the woods, and

1261
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,840
I had no idea what it is to that day,

1262
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,760
but it you know, it was something like a dog

1263
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:23,920
or a coyote, and then it changed more to a bird.

1264
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,400
You're different bird solids. It was like different kinds of bird.

1265
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:26,880
It was weird.

1266
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:27,679
Speaker 2: Huh.

1267
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know, really you know what that was

1268
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,519
or you know, or with some kind of herd or

1269
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:33,599
that you know, media. I don't know where this is.

1270
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:36,840
I just wish i'd recorded it. Yeah, usually able to fall,

1271
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,920
and of course there's Daddy's falling and I could play games.

1272
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,320
So Daddy goes through in the woods and look for

1273
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,000
a scary thing, and I don't going to go looking

1274
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,880
for now. Yeah, so he stayed in the van.

1275
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,159
Speaker 2: We're a safe I'm interested to hear what you find

1276
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,360
with the uh, the fishing spots. I think that's a

1277
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:52,960
good idea.

1278
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: I I really think, not only for me, but for

1279
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,079
other people. Or the fish run you have to go

1280
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:01,239
out where the fisherman or something more. I mean somewhere

1281
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,440
we're up away from you know, like a lot of

1282
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,880
times people will be like no salmon, you know, catching

1283
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,880
salmon during the runs or whatever. You know, you'd have

1284
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,360
to be where further offward and they know that people

1285
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,159
wouldn't be you know, after beaten paths, but or if

1286
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:16,599
they're in the middle of New or like out in

1287
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,840
Oregon or Washington State, you know, or Wildern's out there

1288
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,079
forever you know, I'm mountains, but or if they were

1289
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:24,400
closer to stipulation like I am, where it's still the

1290
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,960
boonies but there's camps and there's no people camping and

1291
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:30,639
you know, fishing, and or they got a house in Millanoire,

1292
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,519
but where you know they'd be enough fish runs, which

1293
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:36,559
especially with you thinking of train me a long hard winter,

1294
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,199
okay up here, And like I knew a guy I

1295
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,199
used to work with his He said his parents were

1296
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,800
career lifetime cultures like forever and ever and ever. He said,

1297
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,559
there was like a month or so in springtime where

1298
00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:49,360
they didn't even water to poach them because they're so

1299
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,960
scrawny it's not even worth it. But deer and I

1300
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,639
remember reading years ago, like with the dairy yards, what

1301
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:58,559
you'll find is I never had I said, I found

1302
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:00,039
a leg, and now it's the eye went and the

1303
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:04,199
gear yard or the bed down. But we're in deep later.

1304
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,960
What they'll do with one squad, they'll hide behind the

1305
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,000
career whatever you everywhere else. You beast the deer that way,

1306
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,519
and he's gonna jump out. Try to grab that deer

1307
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:13,880
with a leg, snap its leg. Okay, yeah, because the

1308
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,320
deer is by speed. If you take her out, when

1309
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,159
you've got three legs came over, you can catch them,

1310
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:21,480
snap of neck whatever. But was though flying outside the

1311
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,119
deer yards in that time, where like I said, it

1312
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:26,400
meets basically useless. The liver has nutrients. You know, it's

1313
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,360
probably somewhat depleted, but you'd still have some newt slapped.

1314
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,159
You know. The livers are very rich in nutrients. And

1315
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,000
well they'll find you know, the deer is the snap

1316
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,440
leg and or maybe a broke neck or whatever. None's

1317
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,000
been taken out, but somebody rip your rip it got

1318
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:41,360
out and took the liver. You know, that was it,

1319
00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:44,280
which would make sense that you know, that's what would

1320
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,199
have the nutrients. You're yonder hanging on by a thread

1321
00:57:47,199 --> 00:57:49,639
with these kind of interests and they need that nutrition,

1322
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,440
you know, and they know that that's that deer is

1323
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,400
pretty much use as except for the liver, no even

1324
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,039
but stept for at one time I've read about it.

1325
00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:00,280
My thought as Tony incident I had with that where

1326
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,079
I think they they like, maybe this time you're a

1327
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:06,000
little bit later where the deer or just hang by

1328
00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:07,480
a thread where that's sort of needs to go for

1329
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,599
a liver, and you're gonna go hit the fisher on

1330
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:11,679
stool because the fisher all of the all coins of

1331
00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:15,039
good nutrient and meat and they're hungry.

1332
00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

1333
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: So that's my just a theory of mine. The matches,

1334
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:22,920
you know, the tribes stated mixed, and I said they

1335
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,559
sort of cooperative, cooperative. When the fisher run on like that,

1336
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,039
they would just open ground for other other tribes to

1337
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,119
come in. And I mean they are all sort of confederation.

1338
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:33,239
But it wasn't like they looked at as you're invading

1339
00:58:33,239 --> 00:58:36,440
our turf. They gave them a free pass, you know. Yeah,

1340
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,400
So like a squatch clan that might stay this river

1341
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:42,360
right here, nearess around the area that's hard springtime, they

1342
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,800
might be more down in time for them all to

1343
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,000
get some food after a long winter. But where the

1344
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,880
or their juveniles can interact. And you know, you know,

1345
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,880
Junior is looking for a girlfriends and earlier, you know

1346
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:53,760
he's going to meet somebody who is in his sister.

1347
00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:57,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to do something, even when.

1348
00:58:57,559 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: The tribes knew that they'd marry come in their people

1349
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,800
and other different tribes, and even when they would trade

1350
00:59:03,039 --> 00:59:05,400
dogs with different tribes, because they know that if you

1351
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,639
injured and up, you're gonna have not a good.

1352
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,239
Speaker 2: Thing, you know, yeah, gonna have problems.

1353
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: Right, So, I mean even the tribes understood that. So

1354
00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:14,119
almost one thing I believe that carry over the squad.

1355
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,519
Well just so some of these are just stories of

1356
00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:19,480
mine from it, I've bread, but you know, I think

1357
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,199
they're credible.

1358
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's where the answers start, right. You

1359
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:25,400
got to have a theory to start with.

1360
00:59:26,159 --> 00:59:28,599
Speaker 1: Right, and then like blueberry fields in the summer or

1361
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,800
just blueberries everywhere. It's one thing. Acorns would be another thing.

1362
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,679
They did a lot of swamps, like yeah, cattails, the

1363
00:59:35,719 --> 00:59:38,360
roots and all that are eatable just by anything on

1364
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,719
fat table, fat tail, the neat and you're gonna have

1365
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,960
like rockstortles, muskrats, fevers, which I don't know if you're

1366
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,679
really you know, I beaver houses are built like a tank.

1367
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:51,519
I saw a video on YouTube with your looks. Probably

1368
00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:54,719
sell up like Upping lask or Canada or something. They've

1369
00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:56,440
fallen in an abandoned you know what was a band

1370
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,920
and you know, don't even disturbing anything. But they wind

1371
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,039
to bought tools of heart, worst store, you know, not

1372
01:00:01,079 --> 01:00:03,280
a change or not, but tried to rip into it.

1373
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,960
Now like you know, good luck on that. Eventually they

1374
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,079
hade a hole. I mean we're talking. They have beavers

1375
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,880
rocks in with a you know bran, you know, the

1376
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,440
branches and stop ticker building their their hot dollar. They

1377
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,199
put big rocks and stuff areas. It took them hours

1378
01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:18,960
to get into that. So I mean I think like

1379
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,400
if they're going after baber, it's usually beaber hot to have,

1380
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,480
like usually two different entrance decksits. You know, a couple

1381
01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:26,440
went and one of them beat on the top and

1382
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,840
he had one or two others, you know, wait by

1383
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,440
their entrances, you could you know, get a couple of

1384
01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:33,519
that's and more lunch. Which the tribe city a lot

1385
01:00:33,519 --> 01:00:35,960
of beaver. It's there's I do gold prospecting to and

1386
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:38,519
that kind of in one of my gold where I

1387
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:41,360
know gold is there everybody that's now underwater from beaver dams.

1388
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,199
It was like, you know, Douglas Holton was then floor

1389
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,599
and he went up and looked for he went exploring munch.

1390
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:48,880
He died a couple of weeks later. He was a

1391
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,360
state geologist. But you know, people staying here, they don't

1392
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,840
know exactly I do. It took me a long time

1393
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,239
to figure out what that figure out where he went,

1394
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,880
you know, and well what the thing is where he

1395
01:00:57,079 --> 01:00:59,760
was there was a summer encampment for the tribe there.

1396
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,159
He was near that, and that's in a mile. Well,

1397
01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:04,719
if there are any beavers in that area, it would

1398
01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:06,920
have became dinner. The everges an arrow there was lunch.

1399
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,360
You know, now they're later on I've been I've been

1400
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,239
an old nineteen oh one map that showed what the

1401
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,559
original layout looked like, but nowadays are called it the

1402
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:15,519
beaver damps are and in that era that there wouln't

1403
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:17,920
have been because you were close to the summer encampment site.

1404
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,480
Any beaver's playing lunch. So I believe that you know

1405
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:26,079
anything into swamps, beavers, muskrats, turtles, eggs from like you know,

1406
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,199
bird ducks or whatever. You know thing cut to duck

1407
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:32,760
or duck eggs, I mean different frogs. I your broom

1408
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,679
had tails. There's but I think a couple other things.

1409
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,880
Any swamps that are eatable, I mean where rex. I

1410
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,199
think they use the swamps for a lot, but in

1411
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:43,239
like early spring. And that's one of the things I

1412
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,639
realized is I don't think they use them much in

1413
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:48,320
early spring because you think about it. Okay, if you're

1414
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,239
gonna get wet, what you know, when you get you stay,

1415
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:53,760
you're waiting around. It's in a swamp and it's cold out.

1416
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,280
Number one, there aren't get me much. You're gonna flying.

1417
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,920
Number two, you're gonna your your your water around and

1418
01:01:59,239 --> 01:02:00,880
you know we mighty. Or you're gonna get wet, you're

1419
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,880
gonna borrow on energy. You might take a risk get sick,

1420
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,400
you know, so I don't think they would use the

1421
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,079
swamps so much an early cold weather, but maybe like sprint,

1422
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:11,480
you know this the fish runs the you know, the

1423
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:13,440
deer yards, like I said, going after the deer just

1424
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,599
sort of liver stuff like that. And when summer sturts,

1425
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:19,480
you know, the more you learn about who the tribe.

1426
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,800
Then when you said that, how the tribes the local

1427
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,880
tribes there are you know, different areas that you know,

1428
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,760
you know up here they weren't hunting buffalo out on

1429
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,119
the planes they were they were hotting deer ear and

1430
01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:31,920
buffalo out now in the plane states and up in

1431
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,480
the mountains, you know, different different locations and you know,

1432
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:36,159
you look at how the tribes are dipped through that

1433
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,599
area you know before you know, over the centuries before

1434
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:42,360
the white man came and change everything, and you would

1435
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,880
learn a lot about that. I do wonder how much

1436
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,920
of their knowledge of fire is. You know, there's the

1437
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,639
tribes that some of me. It was a great responsibility

1438
01:02:51,679 --> 01:02:53,400
if you were the fire keeper, because you always had

1439
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,599
to keep some ashes and stuff where if the fire

1440
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:57,400
went out, you always had a way to restarted because

1441
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,239
they have a big layer to start it. If they were,

1442
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,000
and they did have ways that you're starting with moss

1443
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,199
and afters are kind of rocks. They would the party

1444
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,679
used to start fire with a lot of stuff back

1445
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,400
where they would you know, to keep they use the

1446
01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:11,320
rocks they have like go pockets and they put moss

1447
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:12,760
in there and putting next to the fire to dry

1448
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,840
out real good. And you'd carry them on the those

1449
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,480
sacks that you know, this stuff will start easy with.

1450
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:20,039
You know, you'd be like that one that will spark

1451
01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:22,480
and you put this on it boldly. You'll get her

1452
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,440
fire back that one. But responsibility for tribe fire keeper

1453
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:29,559
was a very important duty. I don't know if the

1454
01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:31,280
squatch doesn't know how to do it or not. They

1455
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,199
they have someone might have some knowledge of it.

1456
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,159
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure they know what fire is, right, right,

1457
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:39,360
do they know how.

1458
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: To control it and use it?

1459
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1460
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: And I also believe like like you know, I've read

1461
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,639
a count to like there you know, people like say

1462
01:03:46,679 --> 01:03:49,239
there's a road construction going and then no, no, they'll

1463
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,280
they'll be curious sitting there watch it in the trees

1464
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,760
and you know, guys go home and people you see

1465
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:55,639
in a fuel counted. Now, the squatter would be a

1466
01:03:55,639 --> 01:03:58,800
squat sitting there and bothot some playing with the library.

1467
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,360
He knows how if you humans drive this thing and

1468
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,760
do a step and I know I watched them push

1469
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,440
the leverage, but they know how to do you know,

1470
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,920
they don't really understand it. What sort of a monkey

1471
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,440
sea monkey? Do you know? Yeah, like if they could

1472
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,480
learn how to build a basic dam on the river

1473
01:04:12,599 --> 01:04:15,960
or something, you know, or something like that, just basic

1474
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:17,880
things they could learn from human And if they stole

1475
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,440
a couple of tools from a human, like an axe

1476
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:21,559
or something, they could figure it out. If they watch

1477
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:23,400
the humans. Who is sitting that guy left in planes

1478
01:04:23,519 --> 01:04:25,440
like boom. They do tend to steal soft I mean,

1479
01:04:26,159 --> 01:04:30,440
I think they have a limited knowledge. They're not brilliant,

1480
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,639
but they understand some things, and they have a place

1481
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:34,960
that sends the language or like the tribes, they know

1482
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,920
how to live off the land. But I'm looking forward

1483
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,320
to getting back out here when the weather starts to break.

1484
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,039
We just got all that snow at a waterfalls. It

1485
01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:46,280
means an accent. You know, we got to put a

1486
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,440
few feet up here. I mean, you know, like waterfalls

1487
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,000
and springtime are just you know, you might know. I

1488
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:54,159
want I like go score waterfalls, and I'm open and

1489
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,320
not two weeks hearing you, and get a day off

1490
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,280
and going o the boonies and splore a bunch of

1491
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,440
the waterfalls out of go to and do a little

1492
01:05:01,559 --> 01:05:04,280
looking around while I'm addic. And maybe if I get

1493
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:05,880
time and try to research where the wines are in

1494
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,440
which rivers, because I don't really know up here, you know,

1495
01:05:08,679 --> 01:05:10,360
maybe I'll check a location or two.

1496
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I think it sounds like a good idea.

1497
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:18,400
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1498
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,320
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1499
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,719
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1500
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,320
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1501
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,519
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1502
01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:36,199
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1503
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:37,480
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