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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety eight, twenty three year old Amy Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley vanished without a trace while on the open water

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<v Speaker 1>during a family cruise in the Caribbean. What should have

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<v Speaker 1>been a relaxing vacation turned into one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>baffling missing person cases in modern history, filled with suspicious sightings,

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<v Speaker 1>bounched investigations, and a growing theory of human trafficking. Here

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<v Speaker 1>we are decades later, an Amy has never been found,

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<v Speaker 1>but the mystery around her disappearance only continues to deepen.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked Ingram,

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<v Speaker 2>a true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast and material intended more mature audience listeners. Us.

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<v Speaker 2>One of our dogs is snoring. I don't think anyone's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to hear that, but I can hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably loving it. You were just away for a

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<v Speaker 1>few days. You're back home to hear the sounds of

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<v Speaker 1>the home.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's kind of funny because we recorded the

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<v Speaker 2>last podcast and I literally hit the road and I've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten home and we're recording a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's working out great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does seem to be working out. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I am like a little tired, but uh, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, we're here to be fair, it is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit late tonight, We're recording a little bit later and

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<v Speaker 1>normal I'm a bit tired too, but well, sorry, go ahead, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you go ahead. I was gonna say, but we got

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<v Speaker 1>quite the case to come up, we do.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just going to say, yesterday I was at

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<v Speaker 2>a hotel and at three in the morning, the fire

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<v Speaker 2>alarm went off and we had to go be evacuated

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<v Speaker 2>for like an hour in the middle of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Night, which would suck hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I've never experienced something like that. It

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<v Speaker 2>was wild, and I swear to god, not everyone even

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<v Speaker 2>came out because there wasn't that many people out when

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<v Speaker 2>the hotel was full. So that's also interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure the hotel was actually full?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the parking lot was like packed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really okay, yeah, then people were just like fuck

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<v Speaker 1>it most likely guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, which is not saved, not save at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was a very jarring wake up at

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<v Speaker 2>three in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I can imagine it's like, holy shit. Well, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into the case and before we talk too much

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<v Speaker 1>about fire alarms middle of the night, that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give a little shout out to our

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<v Speaker 1>patrons who signed up this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have Ashton Matchell. I hope I said your

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<v Speaker 1>last name right, Rebecca Cloutsis. I hope I said your

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<v Speaker 1>last name right. I'm gonna say that for everyone. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope I say all your first and last names right.

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<v Speaker 1>Cadence Davis, Leonardo Lozano, Kaylin Gwillin, Carol Ryan, and Marissa.

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<v Speaker 2>Rash right on. That's a good list.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to you guys, Thank you for joining us

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<v Speaker 1>on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to get a patron episode here only in

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<v Speaker 1>a few.

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<v Speaker 2>Days, so holy shit, yes they are.

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<v Speaker 1>You just realize it's the end of July. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which means August, September, October, October. We got a plan

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<v Speaker 1>er Halloween photo shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we got a lot to plan actually for that,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to start getting our button gear.

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<v Speaker 1>No kidding, but we have quite the show. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like the third time I've said that, and it's true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one I've actually had on my list for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while. And uh well Netflix just dropped a

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<v Speaker 1>big old three part docu series on it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, now's the time it's called Amy Bradley

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<v Speaker 1>is Missing, which is probably what I'm going to title

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<v Speaker 1>this episode as well, mostly for you know, seo reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's actually a really good title. Yeah, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it is. So before we actually recorded this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I made sure that Nicole when she got home, we

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<v Speaker 1>sat down, we watched the docuseries together. I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>already during research, but I'm like, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you should watch it before we do the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had heard of this case before, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I had that saved on my list because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to watch this. It is a good it was

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<v Speaker 2>a good documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, but like, typically you don't know the cases,

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<v Speaker 1>I just throw you into the frame, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Occasionally I do, but mostly not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this one's gonna be a little bit more fresh

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<v Speaker 1>in your brain. Yeah, so you're prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>To I'll call you out if shit's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it. Do it. But I will say I have

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<v Speaker 1>some information that was not in the docuseries, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have omitted some of the things not in the docuseries,

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<v Speaker 1>just for time wise, because it's a three part.

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<v Speaker 2>Omitted things that were in the docuceries.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yes, yes, because it's like you should totally watch it,

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<v Speaker 1>get all the information, go check it out. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just a single episode on a podcast. We can't cover

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<v Speaker 1>a three part documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be like three episodes really exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got I got my own take. I've covered

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff that's in the documentary and I've

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<v Speaker 1>covered some other stuff after this. Make sure you go

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<v Speaker 1>watch the document docuseries as well, because it's hella good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was well done for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's one dude in the document docuseries. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>complete asshole. I don't know why he's in it. He

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<v Speaker 1>was actually part of the staff on the ship at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and here we are, like over twenty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>is it over twenty years nineteen ninety eight? It happened

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<v Speaker 1>in so do the math?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that is over?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and yeah, he's just so arrogant, so matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>and so cold in the way things were handled then

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<v Speaker 1>in his opinion now. And I'm just like, dude, we're

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<v Speaker 2>I even said, while we're watching it, does he realize

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<v Speaker 2>how he is going to be coming across.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he's going to watch them and be like, oh gosh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So actually I do quote him in this directly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's dive into this, shall we. You ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do want to just say I didn't totally

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you on everything. That's all him coming across

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<v Speaker 2>as an asshole, but like later in it was evidence, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>That one part where we actually disagree. That's where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>quoting them. So we'll talk about it then if you want. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get going here. The Bradley family, they were

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of people, the kind of close knit family

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<v Speaker 1>that people envy. Ron and Iva had two kids together,

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and Brad, and they were raised with a strong

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<v Speaker 1>mix of love, independence, and no nonsense values in Chesterfield County, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Both Ron and Iva worked in insurance. Brad was the

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<v Speaker 1>younger sibling of their two children, at twenty one years

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<v Speaker 1>old in nineteen ninety eight and was away at college

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<v Speaker 1>and Amy was twenty three. She was, you know, right

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<v Speaker 1>in that in between stage of life, finishing off you know,

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<v Speaker 1>basketball and standing on the edge of basically full adulthood.

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<v Speaker 1>You could say. She had just graduated from Longwood University

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<v Speaker 1>with a degree in sports psychology. She'd gotten through college

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<v Speaker 1>on a basketball scholarship, and had a full time job

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<v Speaker 1>lined up at a computer counsel or consulting firm. But

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<v Speaker 1>for now she was working at Ruth Chris's Steakhouse. That's

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<v Speaker 1>hard with the thhi, Yeah, Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. There we

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<v Speaker 1>go to pay the bills. You know that intermediate type position, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But this cruise, this was meant to be her last

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<v Speaker 1>little break before starting the next chapter in her life

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<v Speaker 1>where she dove into those more adult quote unquote things. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Amy initially wasn't exactly thrilled about the idea of the cruise,

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<v Speaker 1>so she had she had this thing about deep water

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<v Speaker 1>and hated the idea of being far from land, and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't love heights of massive ships like the one they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be sailing on, the Rhapsody of the Sea. But her

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<v Speaker 1>dad had won these tickets this trip through work. Brad

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<v Speaker 1>was home from school and he was going to and

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, Amy figured, you know what, why not?

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<v Speaker 1>And she decided she was going to go. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the anticipation of the excitement started to build from

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<v Speaker 1>her when she made that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, I just have to say, I get it there.

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<v Speaker 2>I have about zero percent desire to go on a

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<v Speaker 2>cruise ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there was also that other docuseries on Netflix that

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<v Speaker 1>you saw that the poop Cruise Cruise.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Yeah, after watching that and then this one,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, no, thank you. But I already was

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<v Speaker 2>very much so like that, I have no interest.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. So for her though, for Amy, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a chance to chill with her family, soak up

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<v Speaker 1>some son, maybe even enjoy herself before diving into this

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<v Speaker 1>new job and whatever, you know, life was about to

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<v Speaker 1>throw at her. So Amy she was very bold. She

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<v Speaker 1>was funny and unafraid to speak her mind. A natural

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<v Speaker 1>leader too. Friends described her as someone who could light

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<v Speaker 1>up a room or shut down a jerk in one sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>Flat you know, that's awesome. She had strong opinions, a

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<v Speaker 1>sharp sense of humor, and a whole lot of love

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy also had had had come out to her family

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<v Speaker 1>not long before the trip. She told them that she

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<v Speaker 1>was in fact gay, and it hadn't exactly gone over

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<v Speaker 1>super smoothly. Her ex girlfriend later said Amy's parents were

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit disappointed, quote unquote, and her dad even

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<v Speaker 1>admitted in interviews that it wasn't what he would have

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<v Speaker 1>chosen for her. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>that all didn't matter. They all agreed one thing. They

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<v Speaker 1>loved her no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're very close family, which is nice. And the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they all went and took the time to

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<v Speaker 2>spend together on this cruise was like lovely exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, they might have opinions, differing in opinions,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, different ways of living their life, but that

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, it didn't matter. They were family and

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<v Speaker 1>they loved each other no matter Yeah. Now the cruise

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a celebration, It was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a memory maker, a one last family vacation before

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<v Speaker 1>life starts officially pulling them all in different directions. So

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<v Speaker 1>on March twenty first, nineteen ninety eight, the Bradleys boarded

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<v Speaker 1>a massive Word Caribbean Cruise ship heading for Curisow Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Curisau is a small island in the Southern Caribbean Sea,

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<v Speaker 1>just off the coast of Venezuela, known for its colorful

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<v Speaker 1>Dutch colonial buildings, crystal clear waters, and it's laid back,

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<v Speaker 1>tropical vibe. Let's say it's a popular stop for vacationers

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<v Speaker 1>looking to soak up the sun and the culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The cruise ship was named the Rhapsody of the Sea,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was huge, sleek and luxurious, and it packed

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<v Speaker 1>on over two thousand passengers. There were pool decks, nightclubs,

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<v Speaker 1>many it was the dream vacation. I mean for Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>she was excited, but it was still quite overwhelming. The

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<v Speaker 1>the water. Amy had always been uneasy around that deep

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<v Speaker 1>still excited, after all, she was there for her family

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<v Speaker 1>and she was determined to make the most of it. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>they were pretty close and when they were together things

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<v Speaker 1>usually felt a little bit lighter. Now, the first couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days went as you'd expect, sunbathing, exploring the ship,

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<v Speaker 1>She quickly found herself on the ninth floor disco, where

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<v Speaker 1>a band called Blue Orchid played every night. She seemed

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<v Speaker 1>ended up spending the evening of March twenty third dancing

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<v Speaker 1>and drinking at the ship's disco party. It was lively,

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<v Speaker 1>packed with music and flashing lights, and for a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>everything felt carefree. The cruise ship photographer even snapped a

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<v Speaker 1>few photos of Amy on the dance floor with the

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<v Speaker 1>band's bass player, Yellow. Video footage shows her laughing, dancing,

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<v Speaker 1>a vacation. Right. It was around one am when Yellow,

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<v Speaker 1>they stayed longer, riding up that vacation high and living

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<v Speaker 1>that night life on the cruise, And it wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>about three thirty five am that Brad finally decided he

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes later. Behind, and once she entered the room,

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<v Speaker 1>she joined her brother out on the balcony for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, chatting quietly and enjoying a cigarette. The ocean

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<v Speaker 1>stretched out endlessly beneath them, black and still in the

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<v Speaker 1>early hours of the morning. Brad eventually went to bed

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<v Speaker 1>and Amy stayed out just a little bit longer behind

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<v Speaker 1>her brother. By five point fifteen am on March twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>the ship was quiet, most passengers were still asleep. In

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<v Speaker 1>the Bradley family suite, Ron was just waking up, not

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<v Speaker 1>for the morning, but he just kind of opened his

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<v Speaker 1>door he could see his daughter. There were Amy's legs

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<v Speaker 1>stretched out in the lounge chair, still and peaceful. She

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<v Speaker 1>most likely had fallen asleep outside, and Brad had went

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<v Speaker 1>to bed. So he dozed off once again, knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>his kids were both in the room and safe. But

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<v Speaker 1>then something woke come up just after six am. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was his internal clock telling him it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>get up, or something else that drove him to wake

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, we don't really know. Ron himself even

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<v Speaker 1>said he's not sure what will come up, but something

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<v Speaker 1>did and as he opened his eyes he saw that

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<v Speaker 1>chair where Amy was sitting not more than maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes ago, but it was now empty. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no sign of Amy on the balcony or in the

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<v Speaker 1>small cruise ship room that they were in. She was

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<v Speaker 1>just gone. Now. At first, Ron didn't panic. Maybe she'd

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<v Speaker 1>gone to grab coffee or take a walk around the deck.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about six am, after all, it wasn't like Amy

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<v Speaker 1>to disappear without saying something. But it was early, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was independent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and she probably didn't want to wake him up exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been her leaving the door that even

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<v Speaker 2>like woke up her dad or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You all, it's possible. It's possible, now, I do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to mention that the balcony door was left open

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<v Speaker 1>approximately a foot and a foot and a half. Ron

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<v Speaker 1>specifically mentions that. But still, as the minutes ticked by

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no sign of Amy, Ron's concern began

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<v Speaker 1>to grow. She started checking the common areas on the

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<v Speaker 1>cruise ship, you know, the pools, the buffet, the lounges.

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<v Speaker 1>But still there was nothing. By six point thirty, he'd

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<v Speaker 1>woken up the rest of the family, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>things started to shift from concerned to a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more dread Amy wasn't the type to vanish. She was

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<v Speaker 1>always careful, always aware of her surroundings, and she'd had

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to go off on her own without saying word.

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<v Speaker 1>She would have at least told someone where she was

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<v Speaker 1>going if she was heading off for a while. It

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<v Speaker 1>was unlike her not to leave a note or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But something wasn't right. The ship was now already docking

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<v Speaker 1>in Curasau and passengers were getting ready to disembark. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bradleys raced to the pursuer's deck and begged the crew

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<v Speaker 1>to make an announcement to keep everyone on board to

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<v Speaker 1>search the ship before before it was too late, But

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<v Speaker 1>they were told it was too early. The cruise ship

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<v Speaker 1>workers didn't want to bother the rest of the passengers

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<v Speaker 1>at seven am. In fact, in the documentary, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the workers from the ship is quoted saying, quote, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to stop everybody's cruise because there's a missing girl.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one family's unfortunate incident. But we still have twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred people who paid a lot of money, And

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<v Speaker 1>as cold as that sounds, that's the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it does sound really cold, but she

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<v Speaker 2>had hadn't been missing long, so I think everyone at

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<v Speaker 2>that point was just assuming like they'd find her, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, But and I totally get it, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thought that I had as well. But my counter

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<v Speaker 1>argument to that is, how many times do we cover

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<v Speaker 1>a case where someone reports a missing person and authorities

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<v Speaker 1>don't take it seriously at first?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, I was just going to say too, because

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<v Speaker 2>any if she wasn't found, any evidence or whatever's also disembarking, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, exactly. And so of course with missing persons, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the longer things go by, the less chance of finding him.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this case, you are literally, if you let

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<v Speaker 1>these passengers off, opening the floodgates for any potential person

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<v Speaker 1>who did something to Amy, for Amy herself, for any evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it to just go away. Yeah, forever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And in all honesty, I'm willing to bet that that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the ship wanted, to wash its hand clean of

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<v Speaker 1>any incident or even potential incident.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, if they didn't let people off, though,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they would have people would get very unhappy, true,

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, and at that point they didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>if a crime or whatever had been committed. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>I find that part, that part's a little tough.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's here's one thing. They're willing to like announce,

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<v Speaker 1>we are parked, We are willing to disembark. You can

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<v Speaker 1>now like head off onto land. But they're not willing

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<v Speaker 1>to announce Could Amy Bradley please come to service task?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's too early.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So now the crews began letting the passengers off

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<v Speaker 1>the ship without securing anything and looking for Amy. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the announcement for Amy to finally contact the front desk

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go out until seven fifty am, well after hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of passengers had already left. By then, Amy and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>whoever could have possibly taken her or known something was

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<v Speaker 1>long gone, because let's be honest, there's there's some countless

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<v Speaker 1>things that could have escaped in that hustle and bustle

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Not even to say that someone else is

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<v Speaker 1>even responsible. Let's just say, for argument's sake, that Amy

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<v Speaker 1>slipped and hit her head and has amnesia and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going on, and now she just walks off

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<v Speaker 1>the ship forever, right, Yeah, So who knows what that floodgate.

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<v Speaker 1>Let go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's so many things. She could have been captured

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<v Speaker 2>in something that was being taken off, or she could

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<v Speaker 2>have been drugged or something like There's.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have even just been a witness who had

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<v Speaker 1>seen what had happened to her who left and departed

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<v Speaker 1>and just stayed there and never got back in the

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<v Speaker 1>ship and never got in contact with authorities. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's continue now. Once the realization set in that Amy

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<v Speaker 1>was truly missing, the crew finally began to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>and they began a search. This search was initiated sometime

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<v Speaker 1>shortly after nine am, but the delay had already hurt

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation. For hours, passengers had been allowed to walk

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<v Speaker 1>off the ship without being questioned, without bags being checked,

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<v Speaker 1>and without knowing a woman had been vanished or missing

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<v Speaker 1>at all. As the ship was scoured top to bottom, allegedly,

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<v Speaker 1>witness accounts did begin to surface, but they didn't all

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<v Speaker 1>line up now. Three passengers later claimed that they'd seen

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<v Speaker 1>Amy on an upper deck sometime between five thirty and

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<v Speaker 1>five forty five am, well after her father said he

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<v Speaker 1>last saw her. Now, according to them, she was with

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<v Speaker 1>Alistair Yellow Douglas, the same band member she had been

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with the night before. They said she had

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<v Speaker 1>a camera and that Yellow handed her a drink and

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<v Speaker 1>apparently with some kind of dark liquid in it. Moments later,

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<v Speaker 1>the pair were seen stepping into an elevator together, and

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<v Speaker 1>then not long after, the same pair spotted Yellow once again,

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<v Speaker 1>and this time alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Not very long after, really not very long after.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the caveat with this sight is the two

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<v Speaker 1>individuals who saw Yellow and Amy together they were on

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<v Speaker 1>their way to the room, but they don't they can't

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<v Speaker 1>confirm that it was somewhere between five point thirty and

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<v Speaker 1>five forty five am, so it was the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>on the ship, there's key cards on the doors, and

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<v Speaker 1>those key cards they logged a time when someone opened

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<v Speaker 1>the door with the key card right to enter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these two forgot their key card, knocked on the door,

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<v Speaker 1>had someone in the cabin already let them in, So

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<v Speaker 1>the key card was never used, and that timeline could

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<v Speaker 1>not be confirmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And then when you're leaving it's not confirmed either.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only when you're like swiping this.

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<v Speaker 1>Card exactly now. Yellow had claimed that the night before

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<v Speaker 1>he left the party around one am, well before any

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<v Speaker 1>of that had happened, but the cruise ship's own video

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<v Speaker 1>footage contradicts that timeline. He was clearly seen dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>Amy well after one am, smiling and quite close. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, but her brother Brad would later recall something unsettling.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly after Amy disappeared, Yellow allegedly approached him and said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry to hear about your sister, but here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>No announcements had been made yet, so how did he

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<v Speaker 1>know that Amy was missing?

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI was contacted later that same day that Amy

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<v Speaker 1>went missing, and the agents flew down on March twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>the day after. When the FBI boarded the Rhapsody of

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<v Speaker 1>the Seas after it docked in Curisow, they were walking

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<v Speaker 1>into a crime scene that had already been trampled. Hours

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<v Speaker 1>had passed since Amy was last seen, and most of

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<v Speaker 1>the passengers had already disembarked. Crucial surveillance footage could have

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<v Speaker 1>been lost or even overwritten, and any chance of sealing

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<v Speaker 1>the ship off or controlled investigation it was long gone now.

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<v Speaker 1>To make matters worse, the Royal Caribbean hadn't treated it

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<v Speaker 1>like a case that was a possible crime, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead of locking down like areas stopping traffic and

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<v Speaker 1>chips routines and all this sort of stuff, people were

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00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.319
<v Speaker 1>just roaming freely and no serious action was taken.

423
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<v Speaker 2>I just have to say, too, so if they were

424
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<v Speaker 2>going to do like a search like they did around

425
00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:27.680
<v Speaker 2>nine or a little bit earlier or whatever, they should

426
00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:31.119
<v Speaker 2>have just done it right away. Really, yes, I agree,

427
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.400
<v Speaker 2>because you know, it wasn't that much longer that they

428
00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:35.960
<v Speaker 2>decided to do this search.

429
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:39.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, it doesn't make any sense though you have a

430
00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:42.200
<v Speaker 1>missing person. So what you're going to do is get

431
00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:44.599
<v Speaker 1>rid of all the people to search for a person.

432
00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe they were probably just maybe thinking she was

433
00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.839
<v Speaker 2>like passed out somewhere or something. I bet you it's possible.

434
00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.559
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, they probably weren't taking it quite seriously yet,

435
00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>and then at one point they're like, okay, I guess

436
00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.200
<v Speaker 2>we will. But if they have done that earlier might

437
00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:00.920
<v Speaker 2>have been helpful.

438
00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:03.119
<v Speaker 1>It might have been helpful. Even what they could have

439
00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>done has had people at the ramp on the docks

440
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.440
<v Speaker 1>looking for her as she's going through. Yeah, you know,

441
00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:13.000
<v Speaker 1>asking people, have you seen this girl? She's somewhere around?

442
00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Her family's looking for you know, Amy can come to

443
00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.319
<v Speaker 1>the service desk. It would have been super easy, but

444
00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>they chose not to do that.

445
00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:20.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did.

446
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:26.559
<v Speaker 1>Now, back to the FBI, despite all of the run

447
00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:29.240
<v Speaker 1>around that they're receiving, all of the mess that they're

448
00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:31.880
<v Speaker 1>dealing with, the FBI still did their best and they

449
00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:36.160
<v Speaker 1>interviewed the ship's crews, passengers, and those who last saw Amy.

450
00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:39.079
<v Speaker 1>But one of the biggest issues was without a crime scene,

451
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:42.640
<v Speaker 1>without forensic evidence, the FBI just hit a wall. The

452
00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:45.319
<v Speaker 1>ship's staff had even been allowed to clean the rooms,

453
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:49.519
<v Speaker 1>including the Bradley's family's room, and with it they wiped

454
00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:53.599
<v Speaker 1>away any potential evidence and contaminated a potential crime scene

455
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>because if someone entered the room while they were sleeping

456
00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>to come and get Amy, for example, fingerprints could have

457
00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:07.079
<v Speaker 1>been possible. Right, maybe let's say, because this theory does

458
00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>come up that Amy went over the handrail, maybe fingerprints

459
00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:12.640
<v Speaker 1>on the handrail or down the side, things like that

460
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>could have potentially come up. But these were all wiped clean.

461
00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The fact that people that the room got cleaned

462
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:23.799
<v Speaker 2>just shocks me. It makes absolutely no sense.

463
00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I understand them cleaning the rooms, but it was

464
00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:29.079
<v Speaker 1>as if and I said it once, and I'll say

465
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:31.559
<v Speaker 1>it again that this cruise liner was trying to wipe

466
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:33.440
<v Speaker 1>their hands clean of this and just be done with

467
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:36.039
<v Speaker 1>it and not want to deal with it. Yeah, trying

468
00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of it as fast as.

469
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Possible, which is not good. Like someone is missing and

470
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:43.119
<v Speaker 2>the fact, do you think that your job is to

471
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:44.440
<v Speaker 2>keep people safe.

472
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>And their job is to make money?

473
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:49.599
<v Speaker 2>It's not, though, That's just this terrible world that we

474
00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>live in.

475
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:53.559
<v Speaker 1>Exactly now, the FBI were left with no signs of

476
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>foul play. They had no body, no answers, and it

477
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>was a frustrating start to say the least. Now back

478
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.240
<v Speaker 1>to Yellow. Yellow was also questioned with the FBI and

479
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.319
<v Speaker 1>even pasted a polygraph test and denied knowing anything about

480
00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Amy's disappearance, but with his relaxed attitude afterwards, smiling giving

481
00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>thumbs up to his bandmates, it didn't sit right with

482
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the Bradley family, especially not Ron, who's already convinced Yellow

483
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:22.799
<v Speaker 1>knew more than he let on. Now, add that to

484
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.319
<v Speaker 1>a strange incident involving a waiter who had asked multiple

485
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:28.559
<v Speaker 1>times during the cruise if he could leave a note

486
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:31.079
<v Speaker 1>for Amy inviting her to go for drinks Once they hit.

487
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Once they hit shore, he's invited, he's wanting to go

488
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 1>for drinks at a bar on shore, and everything right,

489
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:42.319
<v Speaker 1>and then there's also the missing photo. See every cruise

490
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>photo taken by the ship's photographer was supposed to be

491
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.759
<v Speaker 1>displayed for passengers to view and purchase, but none of

492
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the ones that were taken of Amy's could be found.

493
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.559
<v Speaker 1>The staff even remembered seeing them. They're ready to go

494
00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>for the family because they recognize Amy. She was like

495
00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the life of the party and stuff. So they're like, oh, yeah,

496
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:03.559
<v Speaker 1>you guys are here to pick up your photos. We

497
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>got like, Amy's right over here, here's the photos. And

498
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>then they go to grab them.

499
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 2>They're missing.

500
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>They're missing. Someone had already taken the photos. And they're like, oh,

501
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:15.079
<v Speaker 1>did someone from your family already grabbed these? And they're like,

502
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>uh no, that's creepy.

503
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:19.759
<v Speaker 2>This is so creepy.

504
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Someone outside of the family came and purchased or stole

505
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:28.519
<v Speaker 1>these photos of Amy specifically. Now, a lot of things

506
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>were happening all at once, and the early hours of

507
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Amy's disappearance were critical, but instead of treating it like

508
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>an emergency, the ship's crew just seemed more concerned with

509
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>sticking to schedule and maintaining the happy atmosphere for the

510
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>rest of the guests. The ship's internal search, conducted later

511
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:47.079
<v Speaker 1>that morning lasted less than an hour, not exactly thorough

512
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:50.079
<v Speaker 1>for a vessel with eleven decks nearly sorry, I think

513
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:53.400
<v Speaker 1>it was like thirteen decks. My authorogies nearly nine hundred

514
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>crew members and more than two thousand passengers. And to

515
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>make matters worse, surveillance footage wasn't reviewed right away, and

516
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>any window of time where Amy might have been spotted

517
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>leaving the ship or being taken was officially gone.

518
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Yeah, I just feel like you could

519
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:14.599
<v Speaker 2>not search that big of a vessel in one hour thoroughly. Nope,

520
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>there's just no way.

521
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.839
<v Speaker 1>No, Even with even if you had the exact every

522
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>member of the crew nine hundred, let's say you have

523
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 1>every single one of them searching, You wouldn't but you wouldn't,

524
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.279
<v Speaker 1>but you would not be able to search it in

525
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>that amount of time, especially the way it's described in

526
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.400
<v Speaker 1>this documentary from this one guy. He's like, we're doing

527
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 1>like checking every drawer, every closet of every room, every

528
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>nook and in an hour.

529
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Fuck that, there's no way not even close.

530
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Now. Outside help didn't arrive until later. The Dutch Caribbean

531
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Coast Guard launched a search for the surrounding waters. They

532
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>were desperately trying to find you know, potentially if she

533
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>went overboard, right, So they're using helicopters, radar equipment and

534
00:27:54.000 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>planes and it lasted four days that search. In the water. Wow, okay, nobody,

535
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>no clothing, no sign of falling overboard at all.

536
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>But they were pretty certain if she had fallen overboard

537
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that she would have appeared, yes, or something of her

538
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 2>what would have appeared for sure?

539
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:14.880
<v Speaker 1>But before we okay, there's one thing I gotta say,

540
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.039
<v Speaker 1>just to put this in perspective to the timeframe she

541
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 1>would have gone overboard. If she did, they were almost

542
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>already at port. Like they could see the port right

543
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.599
<v Speaker 1>at suore right, so it's not like they're in the

544
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>middle of the ocean. Amy is a strong swimmer, was

545
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like a lifeguard. Even she hates the ocean.

546
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Sure, m hm, but she's athletic, she's strong.

547
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she unless got injured in the fall, would have

548
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>been able to swim to short no problem. But you're right,

549
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.599
<v Speaker 1>there was no like Like, they're pretty confident they would

550
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>see a body or something. I say that somewhere here

551
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in my script, but yeah, one hundred percent. They're like, oh,

552
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what, with the currents, the winds, something of

553
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 1>her would have washed a short guaranteed. But they found nothing.

554
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:06.359
<v Speaker 1>So despite all of that, though early reports painted her

555
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 1>disappearance as a tragic incident, some even floated the idea

556
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 1>that she had taken her own life, jumping overboard on purpose,

557
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, self delete. But the Bradleys didn't buy it.

558
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>And the more they looked into how little the crew

559
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>had done and how quickly those theories started floating around,

560
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 1>the more it felt like someone was trying to make

561
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the problem go away. This wasn't just a case of

562
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>someone wandering off or taking their own life. That much.

563
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>To her family was clear. Amy had been excited about

564
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.839
<v Speaker 1>life back at home. She just graduated, had a job

565
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>lined up at a computer firm, was planning to move

566
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>into her own new apartment. She wasn't suicidal, she wasn't reckless.

567
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 1>She just got a new dog.

568
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh that okay, right, there is a flag that you

569
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be doing something like that.

570
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was a strong swimmer, former lifeguard, and this

571
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't make sense. Officials suggested that maybe she'd had,

572
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, too much to drink. Maybe it was an accident,

573
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>but this just didn't line up. She wasn't heavily intoxicated.

574
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Her brother could corroborate that, and the family looked back

575
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>at their tab. She had seven light beer from I

576
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>believe it was six pm onwards that evening, so it

577
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>was six pm to three thirty am when she went

578
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>back to the room, and then her father seen her

579
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>again at about five thirty am. Now official suggested, maybe

580
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>she'd drank too much, right, but that kind of throws

581
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 1>it out the window. She wasn't heavily intoxicated as far

582
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 1>as we know, and she told her family she didn't

583
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 1>even like going near the ship's railing. Plus Ron had

584
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>seen her lying on the balcony lounge chair just before

585
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>she vanished. Things are not adding up to whatever these

586
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 1>theories are being put out there. There were no signs

587
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>she slipped, jumped, or any sort of accident. To the Bradley's,

588
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it was simple. The cruise lines slow response cost them

589
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>their best shot at finding Amy, and even though the

590
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Coastguard search turned up nothing, Amy's family refused to believe

591
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 1>she was gone forever, and not long after they started

592
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:09.799
<v Speaker 1>hearing from people who claimed they had seen her. The

593
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 1>first big tip came from a taxi driver in Curassau.

594
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 1>It was just a month after Amy went missing when

595
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>he approached the Bradleys during their visit to the island.

596
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>The man said he'd seen someone matching Amy's description the

597
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>morning the ship docked on March twenty fourth. He claimed

598
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that the young woman had been frantically running through a

599
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.559
<v Speaker 1>parking lot, clearly distressed and asking for a phone. What

600
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 1>struck him were her green eyes. He said that they

601
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.119
<v Speaker 1>matched the poster the family had been handing out, but

602
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.559
<v Speaker 1>something about the account it didn't quite add up. He

603
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 1>never mentioned her being barefoot, which she likely would have

604
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>been when she left the ship that morning because her

605
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 1>sandals were still sitting on the deck. Vanished, but still

606
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>his memory felt sincere. Authorities, however, were unable to ever

607
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:03.839
<v Speaker 1>confirm this incident or sighting, and then came the Canadian divers.

608
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>In August nineteen ninety eight, two tourists, David Carmichael and

609
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 1>his diving partner spotted a woman on play a Mortal

610
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Marie a beach in Curroseu. She was with two men

611
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>who seemed controlling and aggressive. The woman looked tense and uneasy,

612
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 1>and when Carmichael called to his buddy in English as

613
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 1>they were washing up their diving equipment ashore, she whipped

614
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 1>her head around and started moving towards them, almost as

615
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:34.319
<v Speaker 1>if she heard English and was going towards that. But

616
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the men who allegedly resembled yellow or alistair

617
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Douglass from the cruise ship, as Carmichael said he believes

618
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it was him, stepped in and redirected her towards the bar.

619
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Carmichael said, he kept glaring back, sorry, she kept glancing

620
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>at him, while the man kept glaring at him, making

621
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>eyed contact.

622
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Just like stared him down exactly, sort of trying to

623
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>intimidate him by the sounds of it.

624
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, though, what really struck him was the tattoos.

625
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Carmichael later saw Amy's photo in America's Most Wanted and

626
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>instantly felt sick the tattoos. Amy had a Tasmanian devil

627
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 1>on her shoulder, a gecko on her navel, and barbed

628
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>wire on her ankle, and he remembered seeing these tattoos,

629
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the exact tattoos on this girl. They matched, Oh man.

630
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 1>He ended up calling Ron Bradley, flying out to Virginia, Virginia,

631
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 1>sorry and giving a full statement to the FBI. But

632
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately the sighting, just like the others, could not be verified.

633
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Because yeah, her tattoos are pretty unique.

634
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, Well, any tattoo generally does get to be unique

635
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.759
<v Speaker 1>because it can be placement size. You know what, we

636
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>all have an infinity symbol? Say yeah, but where's yours? Oh,

637
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.079
<v Speaker 1>mine's on my wrist, where's yours? Oh? Minds on my shoulder?

638
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Where's yours? Oh I've got a tramp stamp like you know,

639
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:55.359
<v Speaker 1>it varies.

640
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, what do you have an infinity symbol?

641
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I did have an infinity civil tramp.

642
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Stand Okay, maybe you do.

643
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 1>If there's anyone who's gonna know, it would be you, do,

644
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I say, okay, I my need to check the mirror. No, don't. Anyways, Still,

645
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bradleys, they weren't ready to give up on the search.

646
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.199
<v Speaker 1>They weren't. These weren't random tips coming in. It seemed

647
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like they were very consistent. A young woman, green eyes,

648
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:28.559
<v Speaker 1>distinct tattoos, all spotted in curisou, all looking anxious, all

649
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 1>seeming to try and reach out and if Amy was

650
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 1>in fact still alive, that meant that she hadn't drowned,

651
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>she hadn't jumped, and she had been in fact taken.

652
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>In January nineteen ninety nine, nearly a year after Amy

653
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 1>had vanished, a new tip surfaced, one that felt impossible

654
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 1>to ignore. A US Navy petty officer named William Hefner

655
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>was stationed in curisout when he visited a local brothel,

656
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a place he wasn't supposed to be. In fact, he

657
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>reportedly wasn't there for nefarious reasons, but rather just looking

658
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 1>to find a place to have a fucking beer.

659
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>A beer, yeah, that's what he said.

660
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, that's what he said. So while he approached the bar,

661
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.760
<v Speaker 1>there were two guys that questioned him outside with guns,

662
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.199
<v Speaker 1>like what are you doing? What do you want? He's like,

663
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I just want a beer. They're like, okay, go ahead.

664
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:20.679
<v Speaker 1>So he goes inside and while he sits in the bar,

665
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 1>he struck up conversation with two different women. Now these

666
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>two women were accompanied by again two men. Now they

667
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.159
<v Speaker 1>were having a casual conversation when one of the women

668
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>left the table for a moment, leaving him alone with

669
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the second girl and that's when she began to talk.

670
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 1>She told him her name was Amy and that she

671
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 1>needed help. She claimed that she'd been taken. She's stuck

672
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 1>there and unable to leave because she owes these guys

673
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>two hundred bucks and she can't do anything about it.

674
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.159
<v Speaker 1>She said that she'd been on a cruise and that

675
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 1>things went wrong and now she's being held against her will,

676
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and apparently she left that cruise to go buy some

677
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>drugs in here she is now. According to Hefner, the

678
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>woman spoke quickly and seemed terrified, but just as quickly

679
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 1>as the conversation started, it ended once the other girl returned,

680
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 1>she shut down. Hefner said that he had heard it

681
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>all before, though reasons why sex workers or someone would

682
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 1>need money to get out of situations. He thought it

683
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was all just a tall tale at the time, a

684
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:26.639
<v Speaker 1>way to try and get some money out of him,

685
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 1>And he didn't report the interaction right away because of that,

686
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.079
<v Speaker 1>also because he was at a place he shouldn't have

687
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>been because career wise, right h So, he was in

688
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.199
<v Speaker 1>the military and worried that admitting he was inside a

689
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 1>brothel could have some serious consequences. So you have a

690
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 1>military guy in a brothel in a rough situation with

691
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 1>a potential sex worker who's potentially most likely just spinning

692
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 1>a story trying to get free two hundred bucks and

693
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>armed guys outside the door. So he kind of like

694
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>just finishes his beer and wants to put this story

695
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>behind him.

696
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but can you imagine if that like was her

697
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 2>and here she is pleading for help and just like

698
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 2>that can't get it.

699
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing, because it wasn't until years later,

700
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>in May of twenty twenty, sorry, two thousand and two

701
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.079
<v Speaker 1>to be exact, that Hefner saw Amy's face in a

702
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 1>magazine and he felt the weight of not talking because

703
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>he said, that was her, That was the girl who

704
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 1>he talked to that night, that was the one who

705
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 1>was asking him for help, and he realized what his

706
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>silence meant. Yeah, So from there he quickly came forward,

707
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 1>contacted the Bradleys and shared everything he remembered. The FBI

708
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>looked into it, but by then that brothel, it had

709
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>supposedly burnt down. There were no records, no physical evidence,

710
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing to follow up on, of course not Yeah,

711
00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Hefner has never wavered in his report, adamant that was Amy,

712
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Whether you believe him or not. For her parents, this

713
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.079
<v Speaker 1>was a gut punch. The possibility that Amy might be alive,

714
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that she was asking for help, and that it never

715
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>came was unbearable.

716
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like as them as a parent, you just couldn't

717
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 2>imagine hearing that.

718
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 1>So this was starting to feel less like a mystery

719
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 1>and more like a nightmare for them. And by late

720
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety nine, the Bradleys they were desperate. They had

721
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 1>followed every lead, scoured the Caribbean, worked with private investigators,

722
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>pleaded for help through the media, and then finally, a

723
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.039
<v Speaker 1>man named Frank Jones reached out and he claimed to

724
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>be a former Navy seal with a tactical team who

725
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:47.280
<v Speaker 1>was ready to go and rescue Amy. See this, Frank

726
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Jones said that he had a team with actual eyes

727
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>on her. They were watching who had her. So, according

728
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to him, Amy was alive and being held in a

729
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:02.639
<v Speaker 1>heavily guarded house, surrounded by armed Colombian men and barbed wire.

730
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>He even described her tattoos perfectly small, unique in the

731
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 1>right spots. He said he heard her humming a lullaby,

732
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and that lullaby happened to be the same one that

733
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:17.280
<v Speaker 1>her mom had sung to her. He kept the family

734
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:21.239
<v Speaker 1>in the loop with updates, photos, surveillance details, reports as

735
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>they were getting close. But the rescue, he said it

736
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>was expensive and needed funding. Over time, The Bradley sent

737
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Jones over two hundred thousand dollars to support the mission,

738
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>who they were told a rescue attempt was imminent, and

739
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>then nothing. The phone stopped bringing, email stopped coming. There

740
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>was no raid or no Amy.

741
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, Okay, was this in the documentary? No it wasn't,

742
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 2>And so this was they just like conned. This was

743
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 2>his person conned the family. This was a con No,

744
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>people are so disgusting.

745
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Frank Jones wasn't a Navy seal. He he had

746
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>no team, no mission, no contact with Amy. He made

747
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>it all up to scam grieving parents out of their savings.

748
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow, you're literally scum of the earth to be able

749
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 2>to do something like that.

750
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Now, there's not a whole lot reported on who this

751
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Frank Jones is, or the piece of shit or the situation. However,

752
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the FBI did catch up with him, and in two

753
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 1>thousand and two he pled guilty to mail fraud and

754
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to five years in federal prison.

755
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not enough.

756
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>No. So I'm not sure if the family got money

757
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 1>back or what, but he was he was arrested for

758
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 1>his crimes brutal. Yeah, way to pray on them, Like,

759
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:42.519
<v Speaker 1>holy fuck yeah that.

760
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.159
<v Speaker 2>To just like hear a story like this and then

761
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>come up with some sort of plan to just try

762
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.280
<v Speaker 2>to get money from a grieving family, right, I just like,

763
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.079
<v Speaker 2>how awful are you?

764
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>That is the low of the low. Yeah, you are

765
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>right down there.

766
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't get much worse really.

767
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Now, for the Bradleys, the emotional damage was worse than

768
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:07.119
<v Speaker 1>the financial loss. They weren't just scammed, they were emotionally

769
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>gutted over this. They had let themselves believe Amy was

770
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>finally coming home and just for a moment they felt

771
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 1>like they had her back, only for her to basically

772
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 1>slip away again. Now, even after the scam, though, the

773
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>sightings of Amy didn't stop, and each one kept the

774
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Bradleys hoping. In two thousand and three, in San Francisco,

775
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a couple reported seeing a woman who looked like Amy

776
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 1>in a crowd watching a street performer. She wasn't alone,

777
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.320
<v Speaker 1>two men flanked her. The couple claimed that once the

778
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>woman noticed she was being watched the men grabbed her

779
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and disappeared down the street. Now she was pulled away,

780
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 1>she supposedly locked eyes with the witness, giving them a

781
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:49.159
<v Speaker 1>described as pleading look. The FBI released composite sketches based

782
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>on descriptions, but that was it. No follow up or

783
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 1>confirmation of identity was ever done. Then, in two thousand

784
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 1>and five, a woman named Judy Maherer said to have

785
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.679
<v Speaker 1>had a disturb being encounter in Barbados in a department

786
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 1>store restroom. She was in a stall when a woman

787
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.559
<v Speaker 1>walked in surrounded by four men. They were talking business,

788
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 1>something shady, something sketchy sounding, let's put it that way. Now,

789
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Judy heard the woman ask softly, can we stop and

790
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.039
<v Speaker 1>see the children? And the men are like, well, will

791
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.079
<v Speaker 1>you behave will you listen? And then she's like yes.

792
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.320
<v Speaker 1>So after the men stepped out, Judy came out of

793
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.559
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom stall and was then face to face with

794
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.599
<v Speaker 1>this woman in the bathroom and she said her name

795
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.559
<v Speaker 1>was Amy, and she's pretty sure she said she was

796
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 1>from West Virginia. She looked anxious, scared, and she couldn't

797
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:39.199
<v Speaker 1>say anymore. And when Judy saw Amy's photo later, she

798
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 1>was convinced This was the same Amy. Composite sketches were

799
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 1>made once again, but still, just like the other times,

800
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>nothing came of it again. In two thousand and five,

801
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a chilling tip surfaced, one that brought a new wave

802
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>of hope, also horror and heartbreak, one that really made

803
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>those closes to Amy have both hope and heartbreak. It

804
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>started with an email that was sent to Amy's parents.

805
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Attached were two images. These images were pulled from an

806
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>adult website by a member of an organization that tracks

807
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:24.280
<v Speaker 1>victims of human trafficking. In the photos was a woman.

808
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:30.280
<v Speaker 1>She has these vacant eyes and a blank expression, sitting

809
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>stiffly on a bed what looks kind of like a

810
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 1>dingy hotel room. She has a smile, but it's a

811
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 1>half hearted one, and she's wearing heavy makeup. Her posture's tents,

812
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 1>and everything about the image feels wrong. The woman calls

813
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>herself jos Jas. But it wasn't the nickname or the

814
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 1>setting that made the Bradley family's blood run cold. It

815
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.239
<v Speaker 1>was the resemblance. The woman in the photo looked exactly

816
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.199
<v Speaker 1>like Amy, the same bone structure, the same green eyes,

817
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:09.159
<v Speaker 1>but not the same tattoos. And I say that because

818
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the photos were taken with woman posed in ways that

819
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:15.320
<v Speaker 1>seemed to specifically avoid showing the areas where her tattoos

820
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 1>were located. So you can't even see if the tattoos

821
00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>are there or not.

822
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:20.559
<v Speaker 2>No, you can't.

823
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Now. Amy's parents took the photos seriously. They handed them

824
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 1>over to the FBI, hoping that advanced facial recognition might

825
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>give them an answer. Now, at the time, technology was limited,

826
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 1>but one former FBI consultant who reviewed the images said,

827
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 1>without hesitation he believed the woman was in fact Amy Bradley.

828
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Now the agency investigated, but nothing could be definitively proven

829
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.039
<v Speaker 1>with the photos, though Special Agent Aaron Sheridan told the

830
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 1>media that one of the biggest issues was verifying whether

831
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the photos had been doctored or altered. Oh okay, see

832
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the images had been circulated online and they weren't in

833
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>their original form.

834
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I see, so.

835
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Has shared and put it. The difficult part is back

836
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>then information such as that or pictures such as that,

837
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.599
<v Speaker 1>you can't tell when they're altered. Direct quote.

838
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like those wouldn't have been altered, though.

839
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to say because you have someone who already

840
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.639
<v Speaker 1>tried to scam true, right, And so you have someone

841
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>else who's just trying to fuck with the families for

842
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:26.599
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason.

843
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, but would they've been able to do

844
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 2>that good of a job, because I've seen I sell

845
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>those photos and they looked like they wouldn't have been altered.

846
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.079
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, but I'm not a professional, Like

847
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a professional like analyst of bone structures and stuff,

848
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:45.519
<v Speaker 1>or to say if a photo has been altered, like

849
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I can do a bit of photoshop work, but that's

850
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>about it.

851
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just mean, like it was quite a few

852
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.360
<v Speaker 2>years ago. I'm like, would anyone be able to do

853
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>that good of a job or have the means of

854
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:57.000
<v Speaker 2>doing that good of a job?

855
00:45:57.679 --> 00:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's possible. Put it this place.

856
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:00.360
<v Speaker 2>It's possible if you.

857
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Do doctor an image and you upload it to the

858
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 1>internet and then it's downloaded by someone else they uploaded

859
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 1>and someone else downloads it, and you have this image

860
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it's been uploaded and downloaded like three four times, and

861
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 1>the resolutions all mismashed and fucked up, and it's a

862
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:16.039
<v Speaker 1>terrible image. Yeah, it hides those things, right, But that was.

863
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:19.800
<v Speaker 2>One part of the documentary I feel was pretty convincing

864
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:24.639
<v Speaker 2>showing you know how closely these two people, like comparing

865
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.199
<v Speaker 2>photos that the parents had and then this photo how

866
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 2>closely these two women looked.

867
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.960
<v Speaker 1>That's true. But the one thing the documentary didn't say

868
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.199
<v Speaker 1>was that the FBI never said for certain. They said,

869
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:38.800
<v Speaker 1>un FBI agent believes it was her, okay, but they

870
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:41.599
<v Speaker 1>do not say that they weren't sure.

871
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:42.599
<v Speaker 2>They can't know for sure.

872
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>They can't know for sure, But they also don't say

873
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 1>that they can't be sure the photos aren't doctored. They

874
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 1>don't even touch on the doctor part. So there's something

875
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I got they don't. Oh my god, Now this is seriously,

876
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>this is why you should listen to this episode and

877
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.119
<v Speaker 1>watch that, because they're talking about stuff and I'm I'm

878
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:01.159
<v Speaker 1>talking about stuff there not.

879
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 2>And well, yeah, there's been a few times I'm just like,

880
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:06.760
<v Speaker 2>was I notping attention? But yeah, it's just new stuff

881
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:07.159
<v Speaker 2>that you have.

882
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're probably thinking, oh, you cut out a

883
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit of that part because it's just, hey, this

884
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 1>is one episode.

885
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Ryeah.

886
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Now, the idea that she may be alive out there

887
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.039
<v Speaker 1>somewhere against her will is becoming a strong possibility at

888
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>this point, and in twenty eighteen, a man named Anthony

889
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Willis may have helped lend a lot of credibility to

890
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 1>this theory when he took his obsession with Amy's case

891
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and turned it into something very tangible. See, he's a

892
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:39.119
<v Speaker 1>true crime person like you and I, and he spent

893
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time looking into Amy's case. So much though,

894
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that he thought he would create a place for all

895
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the information and tips to be located at once. So

896
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:49.679
<v Speaker 1>he launched a website. And that website is available. You

897
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 1>can go visit it. It's called Amy Bradley is Missing

898
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 1>dot com, a dedicated space to collect everything tied to

899
00:47:56.719 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>her disappearance, photos, known sightings, timeline, old newspaper clippings, and

900
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.760
<v Speaker 1>even theories. His goal was simple but important, make sure

901
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.320
<v Speaker 1>that Amy's story wasn't lost to time. But you know

902
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:13.519
<v Speaker 1>it's remembered because when stories like this fade from the headlines,

903
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>tip stopped coming in, and that's when hope really dies.

904
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>But what started as an awareness tool turned into something

905
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>else entirely. Anthony began noticing something strange in the site's

906
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 1>analytics dashboard, a pattern in the IP traffic. Using standard tools,

907
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:37.519
<v Speaker 1>he tracked visitors and their general locations. He realized that

908
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the site was getting repeated hits from very specific places Bridgetown, Barbados,

909
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and Curasou, the same areas tied to Amy's last known

910
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>location and later alleged sightings. Even more chilling were the

911
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:56.119
<v Speaker 1>timing and behavior of those visits. These weren't random one

912
00:48:56.199 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>time clicks. It was the same IP addresses that would

913
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>show up over and over again. This person with this

914
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 1>IP address would visit the website on holidays, birthdays, anniversaries,

915
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:14.079
<v Speaker 1>dates that matter deeply to Amy and her family, and

916
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>those visitors weren't just skimming the homepage. They were dwelling

917
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>for long stretches of time on these pages and photos,

918
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.599
<v Speaker 1>sometimes up to forty five minutes, and often focused on

919
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>very personal content family photos, memories, pictures of Amy's old

920
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 1>car or the dog. It was as if someone, or

921
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:37.599
<v Speaker 1>maybe even Amy herself, was watching from afar, silently checking in.

922
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, see, that's like wild that part of the story

923
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:42.119
<v Speaker 2>to me.

924
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's one of the ones that gets me the most.

925
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah now, Iva, Amy's mother was moved by the possibility

926
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that it could potentially be Amy. But why do they

927
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.199
<v Speaker 1>keep coming back? She wondered this aloud in the documentary,

928
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>right like why on Christmas? Why? Thing giving why stare

929
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>at a picture of our dog. It opened up a

930
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:05.800
<v Speaker 1>new haunting theory that maybe it was in fact Amy.

931
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe if she was alive, somewhere hidden, trapped, or otherwise

932
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>cut off, this was her only way of contact, you know,

933
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:17.199
<v Speaker 1>a virtual lifeline window into the family that she left

934
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>behind or could no longer contact, or a family that's

935
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>still looking for her now. The FBI was aware of

936
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the site and its analytics, but once again without jurisdiction

937
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.199
<v Speaker 1>in these countries and no clear way to trace the

938
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 1>exact person behind the IP addresses, the trail stayed frustratingly cold. Still,

939
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 1>it left the family and many online sleuths with the

940
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:47.599
<v Speaker 1>same nagging feeling somebody is in fact watching. The only

941
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>question is who, I guess and why?

942
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Ah. I just hate that because there's it seems like

943
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:58.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit of a I don't like, what

944
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 2>would be like a light right at the end of

945
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the tunnel or something, but then you just you can't

946
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.199
<v Speaker 2>reach it. Yeah, exactly, You're just running and it's just

947
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:07.320
<v Speaker 2>not getting any closer.

948
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Now. The flip side of that coin of it's Amy

949
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.039
<v Speaker 1>looking at the site is maybe it's the people responsible

950
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.760
<v Speaker 1>for Amy disappearing, and they're keeping up with the site

951
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 1>as you know, a means of seeing how close authorities

952
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 1>are to catching them more updates, right, Yeah, now, I

953
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 1>mean that being said, maybe it's just very dedicated internet

954
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>sleuths out there who are really attached to the case, right,

955
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like you or I or Anthony who set up the site. Yeah,

956
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 1>and she did go missing there.

957
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 2>It's weird that it's on such important dates.

958
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>That is very weird.

959
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And then I feel like the people if someone

960
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:46.320
<v Speaker 2>did this to her, that they wouldn't be It's also

961
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.360
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be going on specific dates, and like would they

962
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.559
<v Speaker 2>be looking and staying on there that long and like

963
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:54.760
<v Speaker 2>really paying that much attention.

964
00:51:55.119 --> 00:52:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I firmly believe it is Amy. But the uestion is, Okay,

965
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:03.639
<v Speaker 1>if she's looking at these photos, if she's going on

966
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:07.719
<v Speaker 1>the website looking at these, she clearly has internet access

967
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:12.280
<v Speaker 1>in some capability, So why isn't she sending an email

968
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 1>to someone her family authorities asking for help reaching out.

969
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, she could be having permission to look at the

970
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 2>site though too right.

971
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>She could be, But if she has the site open

972
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>in front of her, all it takes is for a

973
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>moment for someone to look away, and she, you know,

974
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 1>types quick emails.

975
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:30.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, she don't need a freaking email account

976
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and shit and that stuff takes time to create.

977
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 1>It's true, but there are other theories with it too,

978
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and I kind of touched on it with I believe

979
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:40.280
<v Speaker 1>it was the woman named Judy who had the encounter

980
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.519
<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom where she ran into someone named Amy,

981
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.719
<v Speaker 1>and she was talking to those guys who were like,

982
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you better behave right, and she's like, well, can we

983
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:54.280
<v Speaker 1>go see the kids? What if Amy does have kids

984
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.639
<v Speaker 1>now and whoever had captured her also has her kids

985
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and are using her kids as leverage. So it's like

986
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 1>she can't say anything because if she does, how can

987
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:07.119
<v Speaker 1>she save her kids?

988
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and she's not She probably doesn't want to

989
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 2>leave her kids exactly. If she runs away, like gosh

990
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 2>knows what they're going to do to the kids, or

991
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:14.599
<v Speaker 2>she'll never see them again.

992
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Right, she might be able to get herself saved, But

993
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:19.039
<v Speaker 1>what if she doesn't have control over her kids. Sounds

994
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:23.000
<v Speaker 1>like she doesn't get to see your kids all the time. Yeah,

995
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:25.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's either she saves herself or she stays and

996
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:29.159
<v Speaker 1>saves her kids or tries to save her kids, you.

997
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Know, or make sure that they're at least safe.

998
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Right, So she's I mean, this is only one theory.

999
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>There's so many of them, but it's as if she's like,

1000
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's very much lord of the rings. You

1001
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:41.719
<v Speaker 1>stray but a little and it shall fail. Right, you're

1002
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.199
<v Speaker 1>running on the edge of this knife, and it's yeah,

1003
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a fine line that you're walking. Now. More than

1004
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:50.760
<v Speaker 1>two decades have passed since Amy vanished, and the mystery

1005
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 1>still haunts her family and the world alike, especially with

1006
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:57.079
<v Speaker 1>this new documentary that has come out. With no physical evidence,

1007
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:01.079
<v Speaker 1>no confirmation, confirmation on any of these sightings rests her

1008
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:06.519
<v Speaker 1>disappearance remains a frustratingly open case. The theories haven't stopped spinning,

1009
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>but some do believe that she was murdered on the

1010
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 1>ship and thrown overboard, but there's no proof of that.

1011
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.639
<v Speaker 1>There's no body or struggle, nothing to support the idea

1012
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 1>beyond speculation. Even local law enforcement and search and rescue

1013
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.639
<v Speaker 1>say that with the tides, here's the tide thing, the

1014
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:24.719
<v Speaker 1>tide and the waters, they would have brought in a

1015
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 1>body or at least remains of one to the shores,

1016
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 1>but nothing has ever washed ashore. Nothing's been found.

1017
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but if she was weighted down, that could be

1018
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.280
<v Speaker 2>a different story too, Right if the body was thrown

1019
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.199
<v Speaker 2>overboard and weight like it was weighted.

1020
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily because a body will decompose, right I guess.

1021
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And as a body decomposes, it falls apart. So we

1022
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 1>covered this in the shoe the shoes that wash ashore

1023
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:56.719
<v Speaker 1>in Vancouver in British Columbia here with the feet in them. Yeah,

1024
00:54:56.760 --> 00:55:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it's because people are being like ugh, weighted down in

1025
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:04.199
<v Speaker 1>the waters and their feet with the shoes pop off

1026
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 1>their bodies and the shoes float and wash ashore.

1027
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but what about like if you were in a

1028
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.280
<v Speaker 2>garbage bag or something, I mean potentially that I don't know.

1029
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.039
<v Speaker 2>If you were in something and was weighted, I feel

1030
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:18.920
<v Speaker 2>like it could stay down there. That's sometime that's true,

1031
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.440
<v Speaker 2>like Dexter. So I bring up Dexter so often I feel.

1032
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:24.840
<v Speaker 1>So it was like a fifteen thirty minute window where

1033
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:28.760
<v Speaker 1>she was seen in the bedroom on the balcony to

1034
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>when she was gone. So you're suggesting someone killed her,

1035
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 1>stuffed her in a garbage bag, weighed her down, thrown

1036
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.000
<v Speaker 1>her overboard, and cleaned up the crime scene in that

1037
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>amount of time.

1038
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Well they probably they would have had more time to

1039
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 2>clean up the scene for sure, But sometimes depending on

1040
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.760
<v Speaker 2>where it was down or not, they don't have to

1041
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:51.320
<v Speaker 2>be like, really gross, that's true. It could just be

1042
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 2>someone strangling someone, that's true. Especially what kind of messes

1043
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:56.199
<v Speaker 2>that clean up really.

1044
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Especially because housekeeping dead the cleaning forum later.

1045
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, I'm not saying that out of experience, but I'm

1046
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.159
<v Speaker 2>just saying that wouldn't create a huge mess.

1047
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 1>WHOA, I got to watch out.

1048
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:07.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Now. Other people cling to the early theories that she

1050
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 1>did fall overboard on her and took her own life,

1051
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 1>potentially one or the other. But for anyone who knows Amy,

1052
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 1>these never made me sense. She disliked the ocean, the

1053
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:23.400
<v Speaker 1>unknown nature of the heights and the railings. Yeah, sure,

1054
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:26.639
<v Speaker 1>but she was a strong swimmer, she was cautious by nature,

1055
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.639
<v Speaker 1>and she was excited about her future just days before

1056
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:31.880
<v Speaker 1>she even landed a new job and had big plans.

1057
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:36.599
<v Speaker 1>What's more plausible to many and most terrifying, is the

1058
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:41.119
<v Speaker 1>theory that Amy was indeed trafficked, that she was targeted

1059
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 1>while on board, lured or forced off the ship, and

1060
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:48.039
<v Speaker 1>sold into a life that she never chose. The witness accounts,

1061
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the brothel claims, the desperate eyes, and the online photos,

1062
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.639
<v Speaker 1>they all point to that possibility. This is a theory

1063
00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 1>her family never stopped believing. Now, one thing that I

1064
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 1>do think they really needed to have in this documentary,

1065
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.599
<v Speaker 1>but they omitted for one reason or another, is the

1066
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:11.119
<v Speaker 1>fact that in twenty ten, twelve years to the day

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00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:15.840
<v Speaker 1>since Amy disappeared, she was officially declared deceased.

1068
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, yes, Oh I didn't know that.

1069
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Her case remains open, but she has officially been declared deceased.

1070
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:27.880
<v Speaker 1>There is no body, no trace of her, no information,

1071
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>no nothing, but she is officially declared deceased.

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00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.559
<v Speaker 2>The family doesn't want that. They want to be They

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00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:37.920
<v Speaker 2>want this hope because she could still be alive.

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00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 1>They do not believe she's dead. It's not to say

1075
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that people aren't hunting for her. They just believe they're

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00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.320
<v Speaker 1>hunting for remains in what happened.

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00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:48.679
<v Speaker 2>You know. I do want to say one thing too,

1078
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 2>because at one point it was someone said she left

1079
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the cruise ship to go get drugs or something. So

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00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:57.320
<v Speaker 2>is it like possible that she could have taken drugs

1081
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:03.239
<v Speaker 2>on the balcony or something. That made her go a

1082
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 2>little mad or something, and then she jumped off like

1083
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know maybe, but then again like yeah, her

1084
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:10.360
<v Speaker 2>body would have most likely been found.

1085
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 1>So now accounts of her family were to say that

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00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't do drugs or anything. Yeah, And also with

1087
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:19.679
<v Speaker 1>that waiter who was like leaving a note like let's

1088
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>go on shore or in party, Amy was like, no,

1089
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:25.280
<v Speaker 1>we're not going ashore. That's not happening.

1090
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't interested.

1091
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>So according to her family, no, she wasn't going ashore.

1092
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:31.599
<v Speaker 1>And know she wasn't into drugs.

1093
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, why would she be out on the deck, like,

1094
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:35.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, doing drugs alone like that.

1095
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>So now, even now, the FBI still lists Amy as

1096
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a missing person, offering up twenty five thousand dollars in

1097
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>reward for information. Her family offers up even more, up

1098
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for her safe return.

1099
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Her name is etched in every missing person's database. Her

1100
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 1>face has been shared on shows like Unsolved Mysteries, Doctor Phil,

1101
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 1>America's Most Wanted and Disappeared, and even as just of

1102
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 1>recently with the new three part Netflix documentary that came

1103
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:07.199
<v Speaker 1>out just like a week ago. It brought a lot

1104
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of attention back to her and her story, and social

1105
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:15.239
<v Speaker 1>media has helped with the renewed interest. Good people are

1106
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:18.920
<v Speaker 1>sharing their stories, dissecting the the evidence, they're they're talking

1107
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>about theories, they're posting clips of the documentary. There's even

1108
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a YouTuber Ethan Klein. He's quite a big, big name

1109
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 1>out there. He's jumped in and just a few days

1110
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.800
<v Speaker 1>ago he offered a staggering one million dollars for information

1111
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that leads to Amy, or the possibility of leads to

1112
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:37.320
<v Speaker 1>finding her children.

1113
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Curiously, Yeah, okay, that is like so amazing for the family.

1114
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Hey yeah, oh man, that I hope that makes them, like,

1115
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, feel good and like maybe there's there's a

1116
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 2>chance there's still Yeah.

1117
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Regardless of all this, one thing is certain. Amy Lynn

1118
00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Bradley's story is far from forgotten. Her memory is still

1119
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:04.039
<v Speaker 1>quite lingers, especially right now with this renewed interest on

1120
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that cruise ship on the beaches of Curassow and in

1121
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the first hand accounts of photos that surface online. Her

1122
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:13.000
<v Speaker 1>name is still there. I'm confident that someone out there

1123
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:17.639
<v Speaker 1>does know the truth and maybe, just maybe, if we

1124
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.760
<v Speaker 1>keep talking about Amy's story, she can be brought back

1125
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.639
<v Speaker 1>home to her family and say from whatever horrors that

1126
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:28.360
<v Speaker 1>may have stolen her. But for now, this is an

1127
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.480
<v Speaker 1>unsolved story, and that is the story that we know

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01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 1>of of amy Lyn Bradley.

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01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I just have to say, it's such a piss off

1130
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:40.000
<v Speaker 2>because she was just like a gem, like a light

1131
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 2>in this world and got noticed right for just being

1132
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:50.360
<v Speaker 2>freakin amazing. Yeah, and someone just decided that they needed

1133
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.199
<v Speaker 2>that for themselves for whatever reason. I guess that's what

1134
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:56.519
<v Speaker 2>it seems like, yeah, which is oh, just so maddening,

1135
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.920
<v Speaker 2>so disgusting. I have a feeling, I do have a

1136
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.760
<v Speaker 2>feeling that one day it will be known what happened

1137
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:03.599
<v Speaker 2>with this case.

1138
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I really hope so.

1139
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:07.519
<v Speaker 2>But we are like approaching thirty years here. Soon we

1140
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:10.760
<v Speaker 2>are what it would be in twenty twenty eight, yeah,

1141
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:12.880
<v Speaker 2>which is wild that that is like soon.

1142
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.079
<v Speaker 1>But it is well in all honesty though, with like

1143
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the money that's being put out there, the renewed interest, yeah,

1144
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the publicity it's getting nowadays, I think it's a high

1145
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:27.480
<v Speaker 1>possibility that there will be some new developments in the

1146
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:31.159
<v Speaker 1>next year, maybe even the next couple months. I do

1147
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:33.920
<v Speaker 1>think there will be some new information coming out on this.

1148
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:36.159
<v Speaker 1>So I do want to keep my own eye on this,

1149
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.599
<v Speaker 1>and I think you guys should do the same.

1150
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Kine really quickly. I was gonna call him Lemon Frick.

1151
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:43.719
<v Speaker 2>But his name yellow or what the hell ever?

1152
01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently he dyed his hair yellow or something, and

1153
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.920
<v Speaker 1>so we got a nickname yellow and it just stuck,

1154
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:50.199
<v Speaker 1>which is the dumbest way to get a nickname.

1155
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, anyway, call me Beard Beard Ben. In the documentary,

1156
01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:01.239
<v Speaker 2>his daughter actually is on there speaking, which is like wild,

1157
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:04.840
<v Speaker 2>and they're at one point even like calls her dad.

1158
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't think he knew that it

1159
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:07.920
<v Speaker 2>was like being recorded.

1160
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, but yeah, you know, I'm going to

1161
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>assume that he did know, just because the fact it's

1162
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:20.360
<v Speaker 1>released on like Netflix. I they, well, no, because he's

1163
01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:22.599
<v Speaker 1>another citizen of another country, they could probably just get

1164
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:25.320
<v Speaker 1>away with not asking for permission. Just do it anyways,

1165
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:26.239
<v Speaker 1>because what's he going to do?

1166
01:02:26.519 --> 01:02:29.360
<v Speaker 2>But like right there, even his own like flesh flesh,

1167
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:33.599
<v Speaker 2>whoa flesh and blood? Flesh and I can't speak right now,

1168
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:38.079
<v Speaker 2>lesh and flesh and blood questions him.

1169
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Well, reportedly he came home with like off this

1170
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:46.360
<v Speaker 1>cruise with like a bunch of photos of women. Yeah,

1171
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and we know that there was photos of Amy missing.

1172
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.760
<v Speaker 1>We know that there is human trafficking. There is some

1173
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.800
<v Speaker 1>human trafficking in the area of this world, it is reported,

1174
01:02:56.440 --> 01:02:59.159
<v Speaker 1>but he claims to have nothing to do with it.

1175
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:02.440
<v Speaker 2>See. I go back and forth big time with this

1176
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:05.800
<v Speaker 2>case of whether I think that you know, she's alive

1177
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:09.119
<v Speaker 2>or not, and this sad thing is gosh, if she's alive, like, well,

1178
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:12.119
<v Speaker 2>either way, it's sad, but I just think that her

1179
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:16.079
<v Speaker 2>life has probably not been very easy. No, definitely, it's

1180
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 2>really sad. And yeah, the poor family, like, yeah, the

1181
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:23.920
<v Speaker 2>family's in this dock and they just talk about it,

1182
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 2>just the effects of this of their life, right, you know,

1183
01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:28.519
<v Speaker 2>for the last almost thirty years.

1184
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:33.039
<v Speaker 1>So they her parents still keep Amy's car polished and

1185
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:34.840
<v Speaker 1>ready to go in the garage when she gets home.

1186
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, oh my god, I forgot about that. It

1187
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.599
<v Speaker 2>just like breaks your fucking heart.

1188
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1189
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, on that note, I guess.

1190
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:49.519
<v Speaker 1>On that note, you guys should definitely watch this documentary.

1191
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:52.920
<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned, I believe it's Amy Bradley is Missing.

1192
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I close Netflix. I got to open up again just

1193
01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to confirm that that's what it's called. But yeah, check

1194
01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:02.679
<v Speaker 1>it out. It is really good. They talk about a

1195
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:06.800
<v Speaker 1>couple different angles that I decided to not dissect on

1196
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:09.199
<v Speaker 1>my own. So it's it's worth the watch for sure.

1197
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.880
<v Speaker 2>And then after that you can watch Poop Cruise and

1198
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 2>then you can just never go on another cruise in

1199
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:16.639
<v Speaker 2>your whole entire life.

1200
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1201
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you like it, you like it, but

1202
01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I just ah. Yeah. Also, the ocean terrifies me. I'm

1203
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:26.199
<v Speaker 2>sure I've talked about that before. I love the freaking ocean,

1204
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 2>but from a shore.

1205
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Really I want to look at it. I want to

1206
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear it, but we have.

1207
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:34.920
<v Speaker 2>No idea some of the stuff in there. I am

1208
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:37.079
<v Speaker 2>certain it's like some terrify.

1209
01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:39.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like over eighty percent of the ocean is like

1210
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:42.400
<v Speaker 1>discovered or explored or something like that. Most of it's

1211
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 1>just unexplored.

1212
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. See, one day I do want to live by

1213
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the ocean, and I like love paddle boarding, but I

1214
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:53.239
<v Speaker 2>would have trouble. I think paddleboarding and the freaking ocean, Yeah,

1215
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I think you'd probably get used to it until you

1216
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.239
<v Speaker 2>were like come across a freaking whale or shark, and

1217
01:04:58.280 --> 01:04:59.239
<v Speaker 2>you'd never do it again.

1218
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1219
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:02.760
<v Speaker 2>You see those videos where people think that's awesome. And

1220
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I would literally be shitting myself on the paddle board.

1221
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I showed you a video of today. If someone just

1222
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:09.880
<v Speaker 1>fishing in the ocean in a whale shark just swims

1223
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:12.519
<v Speaker 1>up by the boat, I mean, they're completely harmless, but

1224
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:14.719
<v Speaker 1>they're gying enormous key.

1225
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:16.719
<v Speaker 2>But on a boat, I feel like I'd be a

1226
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:19.159
<v Speaker 2>little more better. Imagine that, and you were on a

1227
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:19.920
<v Speaker 2>paddle board.

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01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my gosh, the ocean would be a little

1229
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:24.079
<v Speaker 1>more brown.

1230
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.480
<v Speaker 2>The ocean. I don't know, I think I would. I

1231
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:29.719
<v Speaker 2>would probably end up doing something stupid and fall in

1232
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and just okay, that's it, I'm done.

1233
01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Just accept your fate and just sink. Just take me world.

1234
01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 2>And meanwhile, this freaking shark literally wanted nothing to do

1235
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:42.519
<v Speaker 2>with you, But you were just by.

1236
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:46.119
<v Speaker 1>The shark's talking to his buddies later that just this bitch.

1237
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:47.039
<v Speaker 1>You should have seen her.

1238
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, it's so scary.

1239
01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Ocean is terrifying. But anyways, thank for being here. Go

1240
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:58.559
<v Speaker 1>watch that documentary you know the drill. There's a whole

1241
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:01.639
<v Speaker 1>description of stuff down below. We're an independent podcast and

1242
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:03.840
<v Speaker 1>with your support we can keep doing this. So thank

1243
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you very much. We appreciate you and until next time,

1244
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:09.119
<v Speaker 1>stay wicked,
