WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.399 Hey, Before we get started, be sure to head over 2 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:05.919 to ham Radio two dot com forward slash email dash 3 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:10.919 sign up to join my email list of over nineteen 4 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:14.400 thousand subscribers, where I like to send emails about upcoming events, 5 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:17.679 upcoming shopping deals, keep you updated with all the stuff 6 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:21.280 going on with my videos. Once that list reaches twenty thousand, 7 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:25.039 I will be doing a giveaway of another HF radio 8 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:28.600 sign up today and thank you for the support. Some 9 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:34.280 more updates on DMR, What my thought process is behind DMR, 10 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.719 What I do and don't like about DMR. My original 11 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:41.799 video titled what is Wrong with DMR hawd a lot 12 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:45.119 of really good comments. In this video, we're going to 13 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.320 talk about one of those comments that was actually made 14 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:50.640 on Reddit after the fact, and I shared the video 15 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:52.719 on Reddit and a couple other things applied to some 16 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.719 other comments. And the original article that was about Brandmeister 17 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:01.000 not allowing you to create new talk groups anymore is 18 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:02.719 kind of what spawned this whole thing, and I had 19 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:06.040 some thoughts on that, so I want to further address 20 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.640 more questions, more thoughts I had. I said in the 21 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.159 first video that was going to make a part two, 22 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:13.319 and now I'm thinking I probably will make up Part 23 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:15.120 three at some point in time, but this is part two, 24 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:20.680 So let's talk about this right now. One thing that 25 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:23.959 I will say upfront, and I think I misspoke this 26 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:28.000 in the first video. Okay, I was talking about the 27 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:33.079 security feature of not Someone was complaining about having to 28 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:35.560 upload a copy of your license to get a dMRI ID, 29 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:37.719 and I said, well, that's a security feature so that 30 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:39.760 nobody can register an ID for you. In that way, 31 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:43.560 nobody can use your ID. Well, what I meant was 32 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:46.319 and I think I said it wrong, So apologies for that. 33 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:50.239 But you have to upload a copy of your license 34 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:53.760 to radioid dot net to get a dMRI ID, a 35 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.719 seven digit dMRI ID in your call sign name, so 36 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:59.879 that idea is registered to your call sign. The reason 37 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.000 you have to upload a copy of your license is 38 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:05.879 that so no one else can register an ID with 39 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:08.319 your call sign. Now, once that ID is out there, 40 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.759 it's public domain. It's public information. Everyone's going to see 41 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:13.639 it when you kee up on the DMR network anyway, 42 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:15.960 So someone could take that ID and enter it into 43 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:18.960 a radio of theirs and impersonate you the same way 44 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:21.199 they could do it on a WIRESX network with just 45 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.639 inputting your call sign into their radio the same way 46 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.280 they could do it on a d Star network with 47 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:29.000 putting your call sign into their radio. So the security 48 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.919 is not preventing someone from using your ID and their radio. 49 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:37.520 The security is preventing someone from registering a new ID 50 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:39.759 under your call sign. So I wanted to make that 51 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:43.039 clear because I think I misspoke or I said that 52 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:44.560 in the first one, but I said it in a 53 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.080 way that was unclear, So I apologize for that. Well, 54 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:49.400 this time today, we're going to talk a little bit 55 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:54.719 more about the DMR ID aspect and how out of 56 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:57.280 all the digital modes dr DMR is not the only 57 00:02:57.280 --> 00:02:59.719 one that uses IDs instead of call signs. P twenty 58 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:03.280 five uses IDs instead of call signs. NXDN uses IDs 59 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:05.960 instead of call signs. Okay, wirez X or a system 60 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:09.680 fusion wires X and d Star use call signs. And 61 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.479 in my opinion, I think that we should try to 62 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:16.719 implement a DMR call sign exchange because here's the problem 63 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:19.039 with Okay, let me, I'm getting ahead of myself. Now, 64 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:21.840 let me go to this comment, and this is kind 65 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:23.560 of where it started. This is a repeat of what 66 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:26.680 we were talking about. DMR is probably the dumbest mode 67 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:28.240 in HIM radio for the simple fact that every call 68 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:30.599 sign needs a radio ID assigned for it to work 69 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.360 on any network. First of all, something I did not 70 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.840 mention in the first video is that's an incorrect statement. 71 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.919 It does not need a radio ID to work on 72 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:42.360 any network. It needs a radio ID to work on 73 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.560 the Brandmeister network. And I gave a couple of points 74 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.560 in my first video about what I didn't like about Brandmeister, 75 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:50.159 and we're going to talk a little bit more about 76 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.120 that in this video, so keep watching on that. Okay, 77 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:56.280 I can put any ID into my radio and key 78 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:57.800 up on a sea bridge network and use it all 79 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:03.199 day long. There is no ID authentication parameter built into 80 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.319 a c bridge. It's built into Brandmeister. I don't know 81 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:09.719 if it's built into TGIF. If someone's familiar enough with 82 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:13.479 TGIF to acknowledge that to put a comment blow, I'd 83 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:15.360 love to hear the thoughts on that. I would not 84 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.720 be surprised if it is built into TGIF, but I'm 85 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:20.920 not sure. I'm not sure. I didn't look that up, 86 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:24.439 so I didn't research that before this recording. But this 87 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:29.160 is actually required for Brand Meister. And again laid out 88 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:30.839 a couple of points why I don't like brandmeister in 89 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:32.759 the first video, and I'm gonna do more of that 90 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.120 coming up, so let's go. My original reply to that was, 91 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:38.720 every digital mode needs this. D Starr and y sef 92 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:40.720 use a call sign. DMR uses a number. If you 93 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:42.439 fail to enter any of those into your radio, you 94 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.839 won't be able to transmit on a network. I don't 95 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:46.839 see how DMR is any more complicated in others just 96 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:48.959 because it uses a number rather than your call sign. 97 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:52.120 That was my original reply, and today's video is going 98 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:55.879 to sponsor. It's going to focus mostly on this reply 99 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:58.720 from Zach lab. Now you can see this was twenty 100 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.560 five days ago between that video. In the time, I've 101 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:03.879 traded some emails with this gentleman. Well, I didn't trade 102 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:05.519 emails with him, but we've gone back and forth in 103 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.399 here a little bit. I went to Orlando for a 104 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:10.079 whole week for himcashon and I've been busy with other stuff. 105 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:13.040 So but I know I wanted to make a video 106 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:16.399 about this reply here. So he says, Jason, I'm jumping 107 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.360 in from your video. I was also an amateur and 108 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:21.399 DMR when it first was budding, sometime around twenty twenty ten. 109 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:23.360 I'm believe I had an XPR eighty three hundred even 110 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:26.399 before DMR mark came into existence. When we all did 111 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:29.519 was local IP site connect and Ravennet systems hadn't even 112 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:31.639 made the sea bridge. Okay, yeah, so that's that's kind 113 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.680 of how the system in Texas started. Also, I wasn't 114 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:36.839 part of it back then, but I did some research 115 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:40.519 a few years back, because I did a video at 116 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:43.959 the Tapper conference five or six years ago, calling and 117 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:48.000 I called it Understanding DMR Networks. So yes, I'm familiar 118 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.040 with IP site Connect. I know a couple guys who 119 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.319 still use it, so yeah, good to know there. I 120 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:53.519 used to be one of the few with a three 121 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.040 to five digit DMR mark ID because I wanted to 122 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:59.000 use radios on both Connect Plus and HAM Radio. We 123 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.600 had some guys like that in our area as well. 124 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:04.600 I think the point being made, and the point I 125 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:06.759 would make myself, is that we're not just adding an 126 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:08.439 extra step and getting on the air. It's that we're 127 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.079 relying on a third party, a closed one that has 128 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.079 no governance or transparency to handle IDs for everybody. Okay, 129 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:15.639 I take a little bit issue with that, but let's 130 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.480 keep reading amateur specific modes use call signs exclusively as 131 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.360 a now identifier something that has already been issued and 132 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:26.079 guarantee unique by government entities using their delegated authorities from 133 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:29.399 the ITU. There's a governing body, people smarter than us 134 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:31.800 and before our time, that set a call sign fixes 135 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.279 in stone. It delegates prefixes to countries to let them 136 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.800 use with subfixes they saw fit. With dMRI IDs, it's 137 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:40.720 an extra step of another database registration. Worse yet, we're 138 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:44.480 letting a private group of individuals control the hobby internationally 139 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.600 for the rest of us with no accountability. I don't 140 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:48.959 think DMR is more complated than the other modes because 141 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:52.160 of this extra registration step, but on the reason of private, 142 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:55.399 unchecked control alone, I agree with the original poster that 143 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:59.240 DMR and amateur radio is dumb. Okay, couple of things 144 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:03.120 on that number one, first and foremost, Okay, welcome to 145 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:07.199 the planet. Okay, everything in the world works this way. 146 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:11.759 If someone creates something, or invents something, or discovers something, 147 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:17.199 or brings an aspect of this topic into a new group, 148 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:20.319 they set up a new way to do this, and 149 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:24.199 the control aspects and the preferences and the parameters by 150 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:26.920 which people use the system is set up by the 151 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:31.079 original founders or original implementers of that system. I mean, 152 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:34.439 I understand what you're saying. Okay, I get what you're saying, 153 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.240 But I why is that an issue? Okay? Why is 154 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:40.120 that an issue? Those guys DMR mark was the first 155 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:45.040 to create an assigned registration of IDs in DMR and 156 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:48.120 amateur radio, and I wish and it's kind of a 157 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:52.040 stupid thing. You have to understand that DMR was not 158 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:55.079 originally designed to use it the way we use it 159 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:59.120 in amateur radio. It was a design for close quarters use. 160 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:01.879 The guys ATMAR never really intended it to have like 161 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.839 nationwide and worldwide talk groups. They never really intended to 162 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:08.279 key up repeaters across such a large area. They intended 163 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:11.879 it to be used in buildings maybe, and by companies 164 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:15.120 or schools all within a certain city or county or state, 165 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:17.759 and you could kind of link everyone together with talk groups, 166 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.040 and you know, you had maybe a dozen talk groups. 167 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.560 I mean, we have thousands of talk groups in DMR 168 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:25.560 in amateur radio, and I dare say most of them 169 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.759 don't get used. But the point is that this number 170 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:32.799 registration was it was obvious that when they implemented this 171 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:36.240 number registration, it was never meant to assign those numbers 172 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:38.840 to thousands of people, to hundreds of thousands of people. 173 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:41.559 It was meant for a more of a close quarters 174 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.679 communications system. So I would love to see an upgradeed 175 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:49.159 DMR to where it implements alpha numeric numbers instead of 176 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:52.519 just numeric numbers. Because as of right now, we basically, 177 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.200 since your repeater IDs and your talk group IDs are 178 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:59.519 only up to six digits, okay, basically, you only have 179 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.759 one hundred thousand and six digit IDs that can exist. Okay, 180 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:08.440 So from zero zero zero zero zero through nine nine nine, 181 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:12.080 that's one hundred thousand different IDs. So and all repeater 182 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:15.320 IDs are six digits, so you've only got six You've 183 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:17.879 only got one hundred thousand of those that can exist 184 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:20.399 in the world. Even more stringent than that is, all 185 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.440 of the repeaters in the United States, maybe in North 186 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:25.759 America start with a three to one, so that limits 187 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:27.960 it even more. Okay, so you're gonna run out of 188 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.240 IDs and talk group numbers at a certain point in 189 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.360 time because guess what, there's just a limited system. If 190 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.159 we had alpha numeric we could combat that issue, and 191 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.279 we could assign call signs, which are already alphanumeric. Case 192 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:43.080 five HWB is an alpha numeric call sign, and we 193 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.600 could implement that, and we could start naming. We could 194 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.399 start putting IDs or call signs into radios, We could 195 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.120 start putting call signs into repeaters and in the different 196 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.480 parameters and everything like that. So I would be one 197 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.399 hundred percent in favor of something like that. But the 198 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:01.240 original point mentioned see this, This is zach Labs guy. 199 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:03.120 He's getting off in a little bit of a tangent here, 200 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.200 and it's not that I really disagree with what he's saying, 201 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.840 But the original point was that the original poster made 202 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.240 DMR's ID because you have to use a number or 203 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.200 you get blocked in the network. Well, first of all, 204 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:17.639 as I said a minute ago, that's not actually true. 205 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:20.399 That's only true on Brandmeister. I can input a number 206 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:22.879 and use it on seabridge all day long. I can 207 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:24.519 input the number one two, three foot five and use 208 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:26.480 it on seabridge all day long. There's nothing on the 209 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:32.600 sea bridge that blocks unregistered numbers. Because the sea bridge 210 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:36.600 is not tied physically or virtually to RADIOID dot net 211 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:39.120 at all. I can take I can do a data 212 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:41.679 dump from radioid dot net and load it into my 213 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:44.840 sea bridge, or I can just delete everything out of 214 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:47.039 my sea bridge as far as radio IDs go, and 215 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:50.120 people can use it with whatever radios or whatever ID 216 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.759 they have. Okay, there's nothing on a sea bridge that 217 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.360 limits that. Brandmeister limits it. But again, in the first video, 218 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.720 I talked about several things I didn't like about Brandmeister, 219 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:01.440 and I'm gonna e on that in later video. So 220 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:03.799 again I see where you're coming from, but you're you're 221 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.679 kind of you're taking it in a different direction than 222 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:10.919 what the original comment said and what I was replying 223 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.399 to with that video. He goes on to say, down 224 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.519 here he gives a brief history which I already knew all 225 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:19.679 this stuff about how DMR mark came into existence. They 226 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:24.200 had dci K four, USD Turbo six NorCal NJ Turbo 227 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:27.200 n E D E c N. I wasn't familiar with that, 228 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:29.600 and that one following right behind us would tell their 229 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:32.000 areas to use the same IDs from DMR Mark. DMR 230 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:34.960 Mark m a RC is the Motorola Amateure Radio Club. 231 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:38.080 Motorola likes to tell you they invented DMR they didn't. 232 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:41.039 They were one of the early adopters of DMR, and 233 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:44.919 they added IP site connect to the repeaters, which is 234 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.480 kind of like an addition to the layer of DMR, 235 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:50.399 But they didn't invent DMR. DMR is an open standard 236 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.120 developed by European Telecommunications in two thousand and five. I 237 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:57.440 think it was Motorola was an early adopter of DMR, 238 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:59.399 but they didn't invent it. So he goes on here 239 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.840 to talk about how the history of the DMR mark 240 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.440 IDs was used, and then this paragraph right here is interesting. 241 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:08.559 DMR mark was using usids starting with the elevens instead of 242 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:11.720 thirty one's. Was also about the time GDPR came into play. 243 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:15.519 That's when Brandmeister made his fuss, made a fuss about both. Eventually, 244 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:19.000 in twenty twenty, DMR mark CCS seven let Brandmeister take over, 245 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:21.720 and I think he's talk about Radio ID. Yeah, take 246 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:23.840 over and have their way with RADIOID dot net. But 247 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.720 it's the same problem again. Brandmeister is controlled by Select 248 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:29.440 FOREW who ran Fast Forwards. No real governess, no transparency, 249 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:33.240 another private group of individuals controlling to hobby internationally. Why 250 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:36.399 would you jump from a leaking ship right onto another 251 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:38.159 one that's going to take the same water again in 252 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:41.440 the future. Okay, well, my first video once again was 253 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:45.480 about how I didn't like brandmeister. So I don't know 254 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:49.440 who you're arguing with right here, but I mean, I 255 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:51.080 see what you're saying. I do disagree with you, but 256 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:53.840 that's you're not arguing a point that I made. Okay, 257 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:55.519 another thing he says up here, there was never any 258 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:57.960 governance or transparency, just a good old boys club who 259 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:00.399 took all the chairs because they got to the party first. Again, 260 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:04.360 I must state, welcome to the planet. That's how everything works. 261 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:06.360 Everything in the history of the world works that way, 262 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:08.120 whether it's good, bad, right or wrong. I'm not saying 263 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:09.919 I'm just saying that's how it works. The people who 264 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:12.320 get their first set up parameters, and everybody else uses 265 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:14.799 that parameter until someone else comes along and says we 266 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.519 should update this and change it, which I would be 267 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:19.919 one hundred percent in favor of. I have no problem 268 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.759 with that. But the but the fact of registering a 269 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:25.559 dmr ID and using it in your radio to get 270 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:27.919 onto a network is not It's not a hard and 271 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:31.279 complicated process. It's not really a good old boys network 272 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.519 because guess what anyone can read. All you have to 273 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:37.279 do is have a valid amateur radio call sign and 274 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:40.039 upload a copyer license, which again I think you should 275 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:42.480 already have. I made that point in the first video, 276 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:44.240 so I'm not gonna make it again. Okay, I think 277 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:45.879 you are should already. I think everyone should have a 278 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:49.519 copy of their amateur radio license and have it displayed 279 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:52.720 in their hamshack or the vehicle, or one in your pocket. Okay, 280 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:55.039 So again I'm not going to go into that again. 281 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:58.759 But that is I don't understand why it's so difficult 282 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.919 to use an ID instead of a call sign. So 283 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.000 he goes on to talk about p twenty five here 284 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:05.279 in a minute, and I want to read a couple 285 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:07.159 of the things he says there. Again, I don't really 286 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.159 I'm not really arguing with this person, this zach Labs person, don't. 287 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:13.320 I don't think he's wrong, He's just taken it in 288 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:17.559 a different direction than what I was originally talking about. 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But 309 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:13.799 after they've been in your ear for two or three hours, 310 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:15.600 you know, they kind of start to hurt a little bit. 311 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:17.200 You have to take them out. These sit on top 312 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.039 of the ear. I can hear them right now. They 313 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.519 sound great, and they work really well. So check out 314 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:25.519 the link of the description low from light me l 315 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:30.120 a l YTMI for the Cozy Fit G one version 316 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:33.080 of their earbuds. Thank you like me for sponsoring this 317 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:36.559 video right here. Basically his last kind of thought process 318 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:38.720 here was I don't use DMR anymore if I can 319 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:40.440 help it. When I do, it's usually for a public 320 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:43.120 service event. We're use local repeaters directly linked to each 321 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.320 other with iPSC or similar no bridges involved. I use 322 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:49.360 an ID issued by non amsure system, not even a 323 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:53.960 less than FIVEG it issued by DMR, Mark Brandmeister. Brandmeister 324 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.039 does an issue id's you talk about radioid dot net 325 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:58.000 and Glenn at radioid dot net doesn't have anything to 326 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:03.039 do with Brandmeister directly, although Brandmeister does limit the people 327 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.519 that can use their network. But again, get me started 328 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:10.240 on how much I don't like Brandmeister. Okay, so you 329 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:12.559 don't have that problem with the sea bridge. Now, this 330 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:14.600 right here is a little bit I don't want to 331 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:16.480 call I don't want to say hypocritical, but I think 332 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:18.120 it kind of shoots yourself in the foot right here. 333 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:20.519 I still use P twenty five to this day, before 334 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:23.200 the XDS clone amateurs used to use whatever numeric ID 335 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:26.600 for amateur radio since Astros P twenty five supported Astroid's 336 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:28.879 soft id's around the same time. Do you mark mente existence. 337 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:31.840 I've been using that to transmit call sign over the air, 338 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:34.200 which not only solves ID but also means the numeric 339 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.720 ID doesn't even matter anymore. So you can totally do 340 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:39.559 that over a sea bridge. Now you're probably gonna get 341 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:41.320 people coming back to you and say, dude, your id's 342 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:43.679 not right, just like I made a video a while 343 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:46.240 back about calling a QRZ on a PODA and never 344 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:48.960 ID properly. So that's gonna be a thing if you 345 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.000 don't use a proper ID. But the point is that 346 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:54.879 you're not blocked by a sea bridge if you use 347 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.360 a five digit connect plus ID or just some made 348 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.480 up random number. The C bridge does not block you. 349 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:04.480 Brandmeister blocks you, but not the seed bridge. Okay, he says, 350 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:06.480 I never really use d star a fusion, But DMR 351 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.160 remains the only amateur LMR mode where you can transmit 352 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:12.319 an Alphameric where you can't transmit an Alpha America ID 353 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:14.079 for a call sign alongside with your voice calls. That's 354 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:16.240 the reason on top of privately controlled numbering makes me 355 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.240 feel d MAR is not well suited for the amateur 356 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:20.559 radio to begin with. Okay, you know what, I don't 357 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:22.680 agree with you, but I understand what you're saying. I 358 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:27.039 understand what you're saying there. That's fine. Somewhere else in 359 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:29.480 this article, somewhere, this is the same article I had 360 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.440 in the last video. Somewhere else in this article, someone mentioned, well, 361 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:35.279 since you're transmitting your call sign on system Fusion and 362 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:37.480 d STAR, you don't have to ID. That's not true. 363 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:42.200 That's not true. When digital voice modes first came around, 364 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:45.920 it was and especially Fusion, because Fusion is twelve and 365 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.119 a half killer hurts and if you use digital narrow 366 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.039 DN mode, then it puts it splits it into two 367 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:54.880 six point twenty five killer hertz channels, and it uses 368 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:57.680 voice for one of those channels, and it transmits your 369 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:01.319 GPS and call sign on the second channel. Okay, DMR 370 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:04.799 uses voice for bow channels. That's why it's more efficient 371 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:07.359 with the use of a frequency. So now you can 372 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:09.880 have a repeater with two different conversations going on and 373 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.880 only one registered frequency pair for your repeater. Okay, Fusion 374 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:17.519 doesn't do that. Fusion uses digital narrowde primarily, but you 375 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.839 can use VW, which is voice wide, which so your 376 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:21.640 voice takes up the entire twelve and a half killer 377 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.519 her it's narrowband spectrum. But on regular digital narrow mode 378 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.640 you have half voice and half GPS and data transmissions 379 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:31.079 which includes your call sign. But the FCC a while 380 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:33.799 back said no, that's not a valid ID. You still 381 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:37.559 have to verbally id yourself on system fusion. Do people 382 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.240 do it? I don't know. I don't really care. Okay, 383 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:41.799 but if you're saying, well, we don't need to do 384 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:44.200 that anymore because we're transmitting our call sign, that's just 385 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:46.559 a state that that's a false statement. That is just 386 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:49.039 absolutely not true. But I understand what you're saying. I 387 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.720 understand what you're saying. I don't necessarily disagree with what 388 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:54.680 you're saying. Again, I think you took it in a 389 00:18:54.759 --> 00:19:00.559 different direction that I was originally replying to. And okay, 390 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.359 but I would be one hundred percent in favor of 391 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:09.119 updating DMR somehow, somehow in amateur radio, implementing a new 392 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.000 phase in a DMR where you can use alpha numeric IDs, 393 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:15.000 and in implementing call signs, I would be totally, totally 394 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:17.960 fine with that. Again, my original point was, you still 395 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.599 need that call sign in your radio to transmit over 396 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:24.200 a d Star network or over a wires X network. Okay, 397 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:26.839 not over a fusion repeater. There's a difference there. Over 398 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:29.359 the wires X network and over a d Star network, 399 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:32.359 you still have to have a valid call sign in 400 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.680 your radio. So in DMR you have to have a 401 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:38.599