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Speaker 1: more updates on DMR, What my thought process is behind DMR,
Speaker 1: What I do and don't like about DMR. My original
Speaker 1: video titled what is Wrong with DMR hawd a lot
Speaker 1: of really good comments. In this video, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about one of those comments that was actually made
Speaker 1: on Reddit after the fact, and I shared the video
Speaker 1: on Reddit and a couple other things applied to some
Speaker 1: other comments. And the original article that was about Brandmeister
Speaker 1: not allowing you to create new talk groups anymore is
Speaker 1: kind of what spawned this whole thing, and I had
Speaker 1: some thoughts on that, so I want to further address
Speaker 1: more questions, more thoughts I had. I said in the
Speaker 1: first video that was going to make a part two,
Speaker 1: and now I'm thinking I probably will make up Part
Speaker 1: three at some point in time, but this is part two,
Speaker 1: So let's talk about this right now. One thing that
Speaker 1: I will say upfront, and I think I misspoke this
Speaker 1: in the first video. Okay, I was talking about the
Speaker 1: security feature of not Someone was complaining about having to
Speaker 1: upload a copy of your license to get a dMRI ID,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, that's a security feature so that
Speaker 1: nobody can register an ID for you. In that way,
Speaker 1: nobody can use your ID. Well, what I meant was
Speaker 1: and I think I said it wrong, So apologies for that.
Speaker 1: But you have to upload a copy of your license
Speaker 1: to radioid dot net to get a dMRI ID, a
Speaker 1: seven digit dMRI ID in your call sign name, so
Speaker 1: that idea is registered to your call sign. The reason
Speaker 1: you have to upload a copy of your license is
Speaker 1: that so no one else can register an ID with
Speaker 1: your call sign. Now, once that ID is out there,
Speaker 1: it's public domain. It's public information. Everyone's going to see
Speaker 1: it when you kee up on the DMR network anyway,
Speaker 1: So someone could take that ID and enter it into
Speaker 1: a radio of theirs and impersonate you the same way
Speaker 1: they could do it on a WIRESX network with just
Speaker 1: inputting your call sign into their radio the same way
Speaker 1: they could do it on a d Star network with
Speaker 1: putting your call sign into their radio. So the security
Speaker 1: is not preventing someone from using your ID and their radio.
Speaker 1: The security is preventing someone from registering a new ID
Speaker 1: under your call sign. So I wanted to make that
Speaker 1: clear because I think I misspoke or I said that
Speaker 1: in the first one, but I said it in a
Speaker 1: way that was unclear, So I apologize for that. Well,
Speaker 1: this time today, we're going to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: more about the DMR ID aspect and how out of
Speaker 1: all the digital modes dr DMR is not the only
Speaker 1: one that uses IDs instead of call signs. P twenty
Speaker 1: five uses IDs instead of call signs. NXDN uses IDs
Speaker 1: instead of call signs. Okay, wirez X or a system
Speaker 1: fusion wires X and d Star use call signs. And
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I think that we should try to
Speaker 1: implement a DMR call sign exchange because here's the problem
Speaker 1: with Okay, let me, I'm getting ahead of myself. Now,
Speaker 1: let me go to this comment, and this is kind
Speaker 1: of where it started. This is a repeat of what
Speaker 1: we were talking about. DMR is probably the dumbest mode
Speaker 1: in HIM radio for the simple fact that every call
Speaker 1: sign needs a radio ID assigned for it to work
Speaker 1: on any network. First of all, something I did not
Speaker 1: mention in the first video is that's an incorrect statement.
Speaker 1: It does not need a radio ID to work on
Speaker 1: any network. It needs a radio ID to work on
Speaker 1: the Brandmeister network. And I gave a couple of points
Speaker 1: in my first video about what I didn't like about Brandmeister,
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk a little bit more about
Speaker 1: that in this video, so keep watching on that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can put any ID into my radio and key
Speaker 1: up on a sea bridge network and use it all
Speaker 1: day long. There is no ID authentication parameter built into
Speaker 1: a c bridge. It's built into Brandmeister. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's built into TGIF. If someone's familiar enough with
Speaker 1: TGIF to acknowledge that to put a comment blow, I'd
Speaker 1: love to hear the thoughts on that. I would not
Speaker 1: be surprised if it is built into TGIF, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I'm not sure. I didn't look that up,
Speaker 1: so I didn't research that before this recording. But this
Speaker 1: is actually required for Brand Meister. And again laid out
Speaker 1: a couple of points why I don't like brandmeister in
Speaker 1: the first video, and I'm gonna do more of that
Speaker 1: coming up, so let's go. My original reply to that was,
Speaker 1: every digital mode needs this. D Starr and y sef
Speaker 1: use a call sign. DMR uses a number. If you
Speaker 1: fail to enter any of those into your radio, you
Speaker 1: won't be able to transmit on a network. I don't
Speaker 1: see how DMR is any more complicated in others just
Speaker 1: because it uses a number rather than your call sign.
Speaker 1: That was my original reply, and today's video is going
Speaker 1: to sponsor. It's going to focus mostly on this reply
Speaker 1: from Zach lab. Now you can see this was twenty
Speaker 1: five days ago between that video. In the time, I've
Speaker 1: traded some emails with this gentleman. Well, I didn't trade
Speaker 1: emails with him, but we've gone back and forth in
Speaker 1: here a little bit. I went to Orlando for a
Speaker 1: whole week for himcashon and I've been busy with other stuff.
Speaker 1: So but I know I wanted to make a video
Speaker 1: about this reply here. So he says, Jason, I'm jumping
Speaker 1: in from your video. I was also an amateur and
Speaker 1: DMR when it first was budding, sometime around twenty twenty ten.
Speaker 1: I'm believe I had an XPR eighty three hundred even
Speaker 1: before DMR mark came into existence. When we all did
Speaker 1: was local IP site connect and Ravennet systems hadn't even
Speaker 1: made the sea bridge. Okay, yeah, so that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of how the system in Texas started. Also, I wasn't
Speaker 1: part of it back then, but I did some research
Speaker 1: a few years back, because I did a video at
Speaker 1: the Tapper conference five or six years ago, calling and
Speaker 1: I called it Understanding DMR Networks. So yes, I'm familiar
Speaker 1: with IP site Connect. I know a couple guys who
Speaker 1: still use it, so yeah, good to know there. I
Speaker 1: used to be one of the few with a three
Speaker 1: to five digit DMR mark ID because I wanted to
Speaker 1: use radios on both Connect Plus and HAM Radio. We
Speaker 1: had some guys like that in our area as well.
Speaker 1: I think the point being made, and the point I
Speaker 1: would make myself, is that we're not just adding an
Speaker 1: extra step and getting on the air. It's that we're
Speaker 1: relying on a third party, a closed one that has
Speaker 1: no governance or transparency to handle IDs for everybody. Okay,
Speaker 1: I take a little bit issue with that, but let's
Speaker 1: keep reading amateur specific modes use call signs exclusively as
Speaker 1: a now identifier something that has already been issued and
Speaker 1: guarantee unique by government entities using their delegated authorities from
Speaker 1: the ITU. There's a governing body, people smarter than us
Speaker 1: and before our time, that set a call sign fixes
Speaker 1: in stone. It delegates prefixes to countries to let them
Speaker 1: use with subfixes they saw fit. With dMRI IDs, it's
Speaker 1: an extra step of another database registration. Worse yet, we're
Speaker 1: letting a private group of individuals control the hobby internationally
Speaker 1: for the rest of us with no accountability. I don't
Speaker 1: think DMR is more complated than the other modes because
Speaker 1: of this extra registration step, but on the reason of private,
Speaker 1: unchecked control alone, I agree with the original poster that
Speaker 1: DMR and amateur radio is dumb. Okay, couple of things
Speaker 1: on that number one, first and foremost, Okay, welcome to
Speaker 1: the planet. Okay, everything in the world works this way.
Speaker 1: If someone creates something, or invents something, or discovers something,
Speaker 1: or brings an aspect of this topic into a new group,
Speaker 1: they set up a new way to do this, and
Speaker 1: the control aspects and the preferences and the parameters by
Speaker 1: which people use the system is set up by the
Speaker 1: original founders or original implementers of that system. I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. Okay, I get what you're saying,
Speaker 1: But I why is that an issue? Okay? Why is
Speaker 1: that an issue? Those guys DMR mark was the first
Speaker 1: to create an assigned registration of IDs in DMR and
Speaker 1: amateur radio, and I wish and it's kind of a
Speaker 1: stupid thing. You have to understand that DMR was not
Speaker 1: originally designed to use it the way we use it
Speaker 1: in amateur radio. It was a design for close quarters use.
Speaker 1: The guys ATMAR never really intended it to have like
Speaker 1: nationwide and worldwide talk groups. They never really intended to
Speaker 1: key up repeaters across such a large area. They intended
Speaker 1: it to be used in buildings maybe, and by companies
Speaker 1: or schools all within a certain city or county or state,
Speaker 1: and you could kind of link everyone together with talk groups,
Speaker 1: and you know, you had maybe a dozen talk groups.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have thousands of talk groups in DMR
Speaker 1: in amateur radio, and I dare say most of them
Speaker 1: don't get used. But the point is that this number
Speaker 1: registration was it was obvious that when they implemented this
Speaker 1: number registration, it was never meant to assign those numbers
Speaker 1: to thousands of people, to hundreds of thousands of people.
Speaker 1: It was meant for a more of a close quarters
Speaker 1: communications system. So I would love to see an upgradeed
Speaker 1: DMR to where it implements alpha numeric numbers instead of
Speaker 1: just numeric numbers. Because as of right now, we basically,
Speaker 1: since your repeater IDs and your talk group IDs are
Speaker 1: only up to six digits, okay, basically, you only have
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand and six digit IDs that can exist. Okay,
Speaker 1: So from zero zero zero zero zero through nine nine nine,
Speaker 1: that's one hundred thousand different IDs. So and all repeater
Speaker 1: IDs are six digits, so you've only got six You've
Speaker 1: only got one hundred thousand of those that can exist
Speaker 1: in the world. Even more stringent than that is, all
Speaker 1: of the repeaters in the United States, maybe in North
Speaker 1: America start with a three to one, so that limits
Speaker 1: it even more. Okay, so you're gonna run out of
Speaker 1: IDs and talk group numbers at a certain point in
Speaker 1: time because guess what, there's just a limited system. If
Speaker 1: we had alpha numeric we could combat that issue, and
Speaker 1: we could assign call signs, which are already alphanumeric. Case
Speaker 1: five HWB is an alpha numeric call sign, and we
Speaker 1: could implement that, and we could start naming. We could
Speaker 1: start putting IDs or call signs into radios, We could
Speaker 1: start putting call signs into repeaters and in the different
Speaker 1: parameters and everything like that. So I would be one
Speaker 1: hundred percent in favor of something like that. But the
Speaker 1: original point mentioned see this, This is zach Labs guy.
Speaker 1: He's getting off in a little bit of a tangent here,
Speaker 1: and it's not that I really disagree with what he's saying,
Speaker 1: But the original point was that the original poster made
Speaker 1: DMR's ID because you have to use a number or
Speaker 1: you get blocked in the network. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: as I said a minute ago, that's not actually true.
Speaker 1: That's only true on Brandmeister. I can input a number
Speaker 1: and use it on seabridge all day long. I can
Speaker 1: input the number one two, three foot five and use
Speaker 1: it on seabridge all day long. There's nothing on the
Speaker 1: sea bridge that blocks unregistered numbers. Because the sea bridge
Speaker 1: is not tied physically or virtually to RADIOID dot net
Speaker 1: at all. I can take I can do a data
Speaker 1: dump from radioid dot net and load it into my
Speaker 1: sea bridge, or I can just delete everything out of
Speaker 1: my sea bridge as far as radio IDs go, and
Speaker 1: people can use it with whatever radios or whatever ID
Speaker 1: they have. Okay, there's nothing on a sea bridge that
Speaker 1: limits that. Brandmeister limits it. But again, in the first video,
Speaker 1: I talked about several things I didn't like about Brandmeister,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna e on that in later video. So
Speaker 1: again I see where you're coming from, but you're you're
Speaker 1: kind of you're taking it in a different direction than
Speaker 1: what the original comment said and what I was replying
Speaker 1: to with that video. He goes on to say, down
Speaker 1: here he gives a brief history which I already knew all
Speaker 1: this stuff about how DMR mark came into existence. They
Speaker 1: had dci K four, USD Turbo six NorCal NJ Turbo
Speaker 1: n E D E c N. I wasn't familiar with that,
Speaker 1: and that one following right behind us would tell their
Speaker 1: areas to use the same IDs from DMR Mark. DMR
Speaker 1: Mark m a RC is the Motorola Amateure Radio Club.
Speaker 1: Motorola likes to tell you they invented DMR they didn't.
Speaker 1: They were one of the early adopters of DMR, and
Speaker 1: they added IP site connect to the repeaters, which is
Speaker 1: kind of like an addition to the layer of DMR,
Speaker 1: But they didn't invent DMR. DMR is an open standard
Speaker 1: developed by European Telecommunications in two thousand and five. I
Speaker 1: think it was Motorola was an early adopter of DMR,
Speaker 1: but they didn't invent it. So he goes on here
Speaker 1: to talk about how the history of the DMR mark
Speaker 1: IDs was used, and then this paragraph right here is interesting.
Speaker 1: DMR mark was using usids starting with the elevens instead of
Speaker 1: thirty one's. Was also about the time GDPR came into play.
Speaker 1: That's when Brandmeister made his fuss, made a fuss about both. Eventually,
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, DMR mark CCS seven let Brandmeister take over,
Speaker 1: and I think he's talk about Radio ID. Yeah, take
Speaker 1: over and have their way with RADIOID dot net. But
Speaker 1: it's the same problem again. Brandmeister is controlled by Select
Speaker 1: FOREW who ran Fast Forwards. No real governess, no transparency,
Speaker 1: another private group of individuals controlling to hobby internationally. Why
Speaker 1: would you jump from a leaking ship right onto another
Speaker 1: one that's going to take the same water again in
Speaker 1: the future. Okay, well, my first video once again was
Speaker 1: about how I didn't like brandmeister. So I don't know
Speaker 1: who you're arguing with right here, but I mean, I
Speaker 1: see what you're saying. I do disagree with you, but
Speaker 1: that's you're not arguing a point that I made. Okay,
Speaker 1: another thing he says up here, there was never any
Speaker 1: governance or transparency, just a good old boys club who
Speaker 1: took all the chairs because they got to the party first. Again,
Speaker 1: I must state, welcome to the planet. That's how everything works.
Speaker 1: Everything in the history of the world works that way,
Speaker 1: whether it's good, bad, right or wrong. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's how it works. The people who
Speaker 1: get their first set up parameters, and everybody else uses
Speaker 1: that parameter until someone else comes along and says we
Speaker 1: should update this and change it, which I would be
Speaker 1: one hundred percent in favor of. I have no problem
Speaker 1: with that. But the but the fact of registering a
Speaker 1: dmr ID and using it in your radio to get
Speaker 1: onto a network is not It's not a hard and
Speaker 1: complicated process. It's not really a good old boys network
Speaker 1: because guess what anyone can read. All you have to
Speaker 1: do is have a valid amateur radio call sign and
Speaker 1: upload a copyer license, which again I think you should
Speaker 1: already have. I made that point in the first video,
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna make it again. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: you are should already. I think everyone should have a
Speaker 1: copy of their amateur radio license and have it displayed
Speaker 1: in their hamshack or the vehicle, or one in your pocket. Okay,
Speaker 1: So again I'm not going to go into that again.
Speaker 1: But that is I don't understand why it's so difficult
Speaker 1: to use an ID instead of a call sign. So
Speaker 1: he goes on to talk about p twenty five here
Speaker 1: in a minute, and I want to read a couple
Speaker 1: of the things he says there. Again, I don't really
Speaker 1: I'm not really arguing with this person, this zach Labs person, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's wrong, He's just taken it in
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Speaker 1: video right here. Basically his last kind of thought process
Speaker 1: here was I don't use DMR anymore if I can
Speaker 1: help it. When I do, it's usually for a public
Speaker 1: service event. We're use local repeaters directly linked to each
Speaker 1: other with iPSC or similar no bridges involved. I use
Speaker 1: an ID issued by non amsure system, not even a
Speaker 1: less than FIVEG it issued by DMR, Mark Brandmeister. Brandmeister
Speaker 1: does an issue id's you talk about radioid dot net
Speaker 1: and Glenn at radioid dot net doesn't have anything to
Speaker 1: do with Brandmeister directly, although Brandmeister does limit the people
Speaker 1: that can use their network. But again, get me started
Speaker 1: on how much I don't like Brandmeister. Okay, so you
Speaker 1: don't have that problem with the sea bridge. Now, this
Speaker 1: right here is a little bit I don't want to
Speaker 1: call I don't want to say hypocritical, but I think
Speaker 1: it kind of shoots yourself in the foot right here.
Speaker 1: I still use P twenty five to this day, before
Speaker 1: the XDS clone amateurs used to use whatever numeric ID
Speaker 1: for amateur radio since Astros P twenty five supported Astroid's
Speaker 1: soft id's around the same time. Do you mark mente existence.
Speaker 1: I've been using that to transmit call sign over the air,
Speaker 1: which not only solves ID but also means the numeric
Speaker 1: ID doesn't even matter anymore. So you can totally do
Speaker 1: that over a sea bridge. Now you're probably gonna get
Speaker 1: people coming back to you and say, dude, your id's
Speaker 1: not right, just like I made a video a while
Speaker 1: back about calling a QRZ on a PODA and never
Speaker 1: ID properly. So that's gonna be a thing if you
Speaker 1: don't use a proper ID. But the point is that
Speaker 1: you're not blocked by a sea bridge if you use
Speaker 1: a five digit connect plus ID or just some made
Speaker 1: up random number. The C bridge does not block you.
Speaker 1: Brandmeister blocks you, but not the seed bridge. Okay, he says,
Speaker 1: I never really use d star a fusion, But DMR
Speaker 1: remains the only amateur LMR mode where you can transmit
Speaker 1: an Alphameric where you can't transmit an Alpha America ID
Speaker 1: for a call sign alongside with your voice calls. That's
Speaker 1: the reason on top of privately controlled numbering makes me
Speaker 1: feel d MAR is not well suited for the amateur
Speaker 1: radio to begin with. Okay, you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: agree with you, but I understand what you're saying. I
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying there. That's fine. Somewhere else in
Speaker 1: this article, somewhere, this is the same article I had
Speaker 1: in the last video. Somewhere else in this article, someone mentioned, well,
Speaker 1: since you're transmitting your call sign on system Fusion and
Speaker 1: d STAR, you don't have to ID. That's not true.
Speaker 1: That's not true. When digital voice modes first came around,
Speaker 1: it was and especially Fusion, because Fusion is twelve and
Speaker 1: a half killer hurts and if you use digital narrow
Speaker 1: DN mode, then it puts it splits it into two
Speaker 1: six point twenty five killer hertz channels, and it uses
Speaker 1: voice for one of those channels, and it transmits your
Speaker 1: GPS and call sign on the second channel. Okay, DMR
Speaker 1: uses voice for bow channels. That's why it's more efficient
Speaker 1: with the use of a frequency. So now you can
Speaker 1: have a repeater with two different conversations going on and
Speaker 1: only one registered frequency pair for your repeater. Okay, Fusion
Speaker 1: doesn't do that. Fusion uses digital narrowde primarily, but you
Speaker 1: can use VW, which is voice wide, which so your
Speaker 1: voice takes up the entire twelve and a half killer
Speaker 1: her it's narrowband spectrum. But on regular digital narrow mode
Speaker 1: you have half voice and half GPS and data transmissions
Speaker 1: which includes your call sign. But the FCC a while
Speaker 1: back said no, that's not a valid ID. You still
Speaker 1: have to verbally id yourself on system fusion. Do people
Speaker 1: do it? I don't know. I don't really care. Okay,
Speaker 1: but if you're saying, well, we don't need to do
Speaker 1: that anymore because we're transmitting our call sign, that's just
Speaker 1: a state that that's a false statement. That is just
Speaker 1: absolutely not true. But I understand what you're saying. I
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. I don't necessarily disagree with what
Speaker 1: you're saying. Again, I think you took it in a
Speaker 1: different direction that I was originally replying to. And okay,
Speaker 1: but I would be one hundred percent in favor of
Speaker 1: updating DMR somehow, somehow in amateur radio, implementing a new
Speaker 1: phase in a DMR where you can use alpha numeric IDs,
Speaker 1: and in implementing call signs, I would be totally, totally
Speaker 1: fine with that. Again, my original point was, you still
Speaker 1: need that call sign in your radio to transmit over
Speaker 1: a d Star network or over a wires X network. Okay,
Speaker 1: not over a fusion repeater. There's a difference there. Over
Speaker 1: the wires X network and over a d Star network,
Speaker 1: you still have to have a valid call sign in
Speaker 1: your radio. So in DMR you have to have a
Speaker 1: valid ID number to transmit over Brand Meister, but on
Speaker 1: a sea bridge it doesn't matter. And I've got a
Speaker 1: whole video. I've got a talk I created like six
Speaker 1: years ago that compares DMR DMR networks and it talks
Speaker 1: about the C bridge versus Brandmeister versus DMR plus versus
Speaker 1: tgi F versus a couple other things. I mean, I
Speaker 1: try to I try to be as opening to my
Speaker 1: audience as I can, but I've never liked Brandmeister. I
Speaker 1: still don't like it today, and I've got a bunch
Speaker 1: of points about why I think Seabridge versus Brandmeister Seabridge
Speaker 1: is better. So maybe I'll make an update. Would you
Speaker 1: like to see an update to that video? What do
Speaker 1: you guys think about this? Do you think the ID
Speaker 1: system and quite frankly, I've been I've been in DMR
Speaker 1: for about twelve years now, and I've not really ever
Speaker 1: heard any grumbling about people not wanting to do DMR
Speaker 1: just because of the ID. I've hear a plethra of excuses,
Speaker 1: many excuses about why people don't like DMR. Some of
Speaker 1: them are valid, some of them not so much. But
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of excuses, but I don't remember
Speaker 1: ever hearing the ID being a huge issue. So what
Speaker 1: do you guys think? Are you not using DMR because
Speaker 1: you have to register an ID? Is that your reasoning?
Speaker 1: I would like to hear from you. I would like
Speaker 1: to hear how many people actually think that put a
Speaker 1: comet blow. Thanks for watching today.