WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.040 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 2 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:12.560 KFI AM six forty AMI forty live streaming in a 3 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:17.719 d everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Dean Sharp the house 4 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:21.800 Whisper Live every Saturday and Sunday morning. I am at 5 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.239 your service. 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And we were talking to Yvonne. 26 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:45.120 I popped her on, hold, eyvon are you still with me? 27 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:46.519 Yes? 28 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:52.000 I am all right. So, Yvonne, they bought a house, 29 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:55.280 a four year old house with a really really bad 30 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:58.400 cat odor problem and some black mold and they're doing 31 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:02.879 mold remediation now, and Vaughan has concerns about whether or 32 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:06.599 not that's going to be enough to get rid of 33 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:11.599 the cats smell out of the house because it's pretty bad. 34 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:14.719 And so what are the guarantees there? And then what 35 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.319 kind of flooring to put in? Von One thing I 36 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:19.520 did not ask you before we went to break is 37 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.120 the house. Is it a raised foundation house? Is it 38 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:27.360 a concrete slab that we're concerned about? Is it upstairs? Downstairs? 39 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:28.879 Where is the odor concern? 40 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:35.800 It's a single story, twenty two hundred square feet slab. 41 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:38.080 One of the rooms. 42 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:41.599 They pulled the flooring off before they found the mold. 43 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:45.639 It has that yellow like spongy thing under the flooring 44 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.560 before you get to the concrete. 45 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:52.680 Okay, okay, and is the problem throughout the entire house? 46 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:55.639 As far as you know, are all the floors coming up? 47 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:02.360 I well, about seventy percent of them smell of the 48 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:06.360 of the area's snell. And so you know, we could 49 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:10.960 either leave and hope that the other parts aren't gonna 50 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:14.400 spell later on, or take the whole thing up. So 51 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:17.280 we think we're just going to take the whole flooring 52 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:18.840 up and start fresh. 53 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:23.039 I think that is actually the best idea, honestly, because 54 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:29.680 there's there's no guarantee that you know, when the thing 55 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:36.360 is smell. An odor is such a distributed and diffused thing. 56 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:40.080 There's no guarantee just because one or two rooms may 57 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:43.439 just smell intensely awful. You might come out of that 58 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.039 room and think, well, you know, we're in this other 59 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:48.159 room in the house and it doesn't really smell at 60 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:52.639 all by comparison, right, But what happens what happens when 61 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.919 the worst of the odor is gone and then you realize, 62 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:58.159 oh no, there was there was odor here too, it 63 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:01.319 just wasn't as intense, And so we thought there wasn't. 64 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:03.960 So when it comes to this, when it comes to 65 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:07.039 a cat person house where cats have had free rain, 66 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:11.520 my suggestion is, yeah, let's start over from scratch as 67 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:13.439 far as the flooring is concerned. But the good news 68 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:15.439 is this, when it comes to mold and when it 69 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.439 comes to cat odor, it is treatable, all right, So 70 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:22.399 there is hope. It's not an impossible thing, but you 71 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.240 got to be thorough. So Number one, yeah, we're going 72 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.759 to pull that flooring. Number Two, you get the mold 73 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:31.199 remediation done right, and that's going to help. By the way, 74 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:34.560 the mold remediation just by itself is going to be 75 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:40.639 of great assistance because it will address some common root issues. However, 76 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:46.040 just to be clear, mold remediation is not odor neutralization. 77 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:51.240 When it comes to cat pe cat P, it's uric acid. 78 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:55.600 It's an acid that is embedded in there in their urine. 79 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.680 That uric acid, it's got a lot of ammonia in it, 80 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:04.160 and and that's why it's just an unbelievably unpleasant smell. 81 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:05.040 Uh. 82 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:09.920 And that that gets embedded into surfaces concrete slab, which 83 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:13.839 of course is porous, even the base board and the 84 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:17.160 lower areas of the dry wall. So how do we 85 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.120 deal with that? We do the mold remediation and then 86 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:24.959 then you've got a two step process here if you 87 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.480 want to absolutely guarantee that you're not going to be 88 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:32.879 dealing with again. First is a really good quality enzymatic 89 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:39.560 cleaner enzyme cleaner. Okay, an enzymatic UH, a bioenzymatic UH 90 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:44.800 cleaner is uses enzymes. And what enzymes do is they uh, 91 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:50.959 they're they're they're this this wonderful biological weapon that get 92 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:55.639 in and they will break apart the bonds of the 93 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:59.959 urine uric acid molecules and therefore render them neutralized. Now, 94 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:02.639 you got to use a lot of it, especially in 95 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:07.120 a slab, you know, And so you douse that slab 96 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:11.839 in enzymatic cleaner and you let those enzymes do their 97 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:15.120 job and do it thoroughly. You can also use the 98 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.240 enzymatic cleaner on lower areas of dry wall walls, but 99 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:21.040 we you know, we want to give it an absolute 100 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:25.560 thorough clean. And then both the walls and the slab 101 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.519 I want to once we know that the enzymes have 102 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.839 done their job and the and the odors are gone, 103 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:35.519 then we want to seal them because I don't want 104 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:39.000 anything low in remaining to come back, and so I 105 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.079 want to put a good concrete seiler on top of 106 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:45.160 that concrete all the way across the slab. It's not expensive, 107 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:49.920 not expensive at all. Penetrating steeler, you can mop it on, 108 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:52.600 you can rag it on. But we want to seal 109 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.720 that concrete, so just to make sure that nothing else 110 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:59.120 that the enzyme possibly for some reason didn't reach, is 111 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:02.000 going to find its way back through again and also 112 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:05.399 stop uh you know, a mold from having any chance 113 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:08.360 of grabbing hold again. So we want to seal the slab. 114 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:11.480 And then when it comes to the walls, the lower 115 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:16.040 parts of the walls, if there's if there's any concern 116 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:20.480 whatsoever there, then there are products out there like made 117 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:25.959 from zinser uh that makes an odor killing primer, eint primer. Okay, 118 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:28.079 that can go on the walls. But here is here 119 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.600 is my big yeah. So so so just be thorough, 120 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:34.879 you know, hit it the multi layer approach. The thing 121 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:39.879 about mold and cat urine, they are so annoying and 122 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:43.720 and uh and so unpleasant, and yet once they've been 123 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.879 exposed to the light of day, they are not at 124 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.199 all difficult to get rid of, because you know, it's 125 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:52.959 not like mold will stand there and look you in 126 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.160 the face and say you can't deal with me. I'm here. 127 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.839 You know, once mold is exposed and it has lost 128 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:03.680 it's moisture and it's in its warm, cozy hiding place, 129 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:08.120 it's easy to kill the cat urine. When we reach 130 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:12.920 it with the ensmatic cleaners, it's easy to neutralize. It's 131 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.319 just a matter of making sure that you're thorough. Now 132 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:23.839 your other question about flooring, okay, just a minute, yeah, yeah, okay. 133 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.079 So the room that we had already taken the flooring up, 134 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:31.560 we had the professional person do this. He said, there's 135 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.159 more you need to take care of it. But anyway, 136 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:41.559 the concrete underneath it is etched with the cat urine. See, 137 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:46.279 and so he was saying, you need to scrub up 138 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.399 the concrete first. 139 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.639 Is that like rough it up? 140 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:52.559 Have you ever heard that? 141 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.960 Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what he's referring to. The 142 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:00.279 concrete is etched and meaning is it is it powder read? 143 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.159 Is it is it has it lost its consistency? Is 144 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.080 he saying that the concrete is is weak? 145 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:12.559 He's saying that when you look at it and touch it. 146 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:15.639 So you look at it and it's they're yellow lines 147 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.759 where the urine soaked through the the sub I don't 148 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:25.679 know what you call that. So it's yellow and there 149 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:29.080 are lines in it that are pits, pitted. Okay, it's pitted. 150 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:33.200 That's the word I was looking for. I didn't say 151 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:41.360 it's not structurally sound, but it's definitely changed and it's 152 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:45.679 not flat. It's there. 153 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:51.440 I think you understand, right, Yeah, that's not a big concern. 154 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:53.279 I mean, as long as long as there isn't like 155 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:58.919 a major floor inconsistency in the level, not really not 156 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:03.399 really are concerned. My concern is making sure that the 157 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.720 uric acid is neutralized in the slab. If the slab 158 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:10.919 is a little inconsistent or it's suffering some scars from 159 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.159 what it's been through, not the primary concern. And that 160 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:17.200 was going to lead to my next flooring question, which is, 161 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:20.279 if you guys are looking for a floor that's going 162 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.960 to last you ten fifteen years, going to be easy 163 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:27.200 to install, easy to maintain, then you may want to consider, 164 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:29.840 and that doesn't break the bank on you, you may 165 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:33.559 want to consider a hard surface floor, resilient floor like 166 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.960 a luxury vinyl plank floor. Okay, it's a floating floor. 167 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:41.039 It essentially lays on top of the slab. It makes 168 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:44.559 up for inconsistencies in the slab. It lays like carpet, 169 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:50.080 it's got a little pad underneath. It, waterproof, it is very, 170 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.399 very durable, and we're really kind of in the golden 171 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:56.120 age of luxury vinyl plank flooring right now, so you've 172 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:00.320 got a lot of options. It's warm, it's very realistic looking, 173 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:06.080 and again, even if something goes wrong, it's something that 174 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:10.000 can be unclicked in place, dealt with, and put back 175 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.720 down again. So there there are a lot of benefits 176 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.360 from it, and maybe the best benefit of all for 177 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:22.039 all of that, some of the most expensive, highest level 178 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.399 luxury vinyl playing floors out there are in the about 179 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.840 the six dollars a square foot category, which which is 180 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:32.679 way less expensive than tile or real hard wood, and 181 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:36.919 in even some carpets. And so that's probably where I 182 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:39.919 would actually point you in the direction of checking that 183 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:44.080 out and seeing if that's something that pleases you, because 184 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:47.480 I think it would do you a good service after 185 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:51.240 all of this is done, but most importantly, ivon, most importantly, 186 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:54.600 after you've treated these floors, don't rush to put the 187 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:58.600 new floor down. Make sure, because maybe you've done one 188 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:00.960 dose of the Enzmatic cleaner and it seems like it's 189 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:05.240 all done. You wait, you wait, you wait and wait 190 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.360 and wait several days to make sure. You know what, 191 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:12.600 it's been two or three weeks that odor is gone. 192 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:15.639 All right, fine, Now we're gonna cover the floor with 193 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:18.960 our new flooring material. Don't rush to cover that floor 194 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:23.480 until you absolutely know that that odor has been neutralized, 195 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:26.320 because you'll get it. You'll get there, okay, but it 196 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.720 may take more than one treatment to do it, and 197 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.080 so you just don't want to assume that you do 198 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.519 it once and then you rush it out. Ivon, I 199 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:36.759 am running late to break, but thank you for your questions. 200 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:41.919 Good luck on the floor, Enzymatic cleaners, odor ceiling primer 201 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.799 for the bottom of the walls. It's gonna work. I 202 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.559 promise you. Just do your due diligence, all right, y'all, 203 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:51.399 more of your calls when we return your home with 204 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:56.200 Dean Sharp the house Whisper. Dean Sharp, the house Whisper, 205 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:59.159 at your service. We're taking your calls this morning, like 206 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:04.720 we do on Saturday mornings. Anything from construction questions to 207 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:10.360 DIY concerns to design and architectural issues. That's why I'm 208 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.440 here here to help you out, here to help you 209 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.360 transform your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. I want 210 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.440 to talk to Grace. Grace from home. 211 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.759 Good morning, Gane. I'm an eighty nine year old goo 212 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:33.840 at yourselfer, and you have given me so much good 213 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.759 information over the years. I thank you. Now I have 214 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:47.279 up two patio covers which I built, and I put 215 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:55.159 down that composite roofing. You know that you you cut 216 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:55.840 and put down. 217 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:56.840 Yeah, and. 218 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:05.000 You talked about a couple of weeks ago self ceiling underlayment. Yes, 219 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.159 now I bought. I bought some And can I put 220 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:18.080 this self ceiling underlayment over my existing shingles and then 221 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.879 put new shingles on top of it? Or do I 222 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.240 have to take the old shingles off and put it 223 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:24.720 down and shuttle all over again. 224 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:26.399 Uh? 225 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:29.399 You should take the old shingles off. You really should. 226 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.279 Probably not what you wanted to hear, but you should. 227 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:37.919 Self ceiling under layman. It's flexible, okay, and uh, and 228 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:42.320 so so let me be clear, just by way of education, 229 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:47.679 self ceiling under layman is flexible. It's stretchy. Uh and uh, 230 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:51.919 will will it lay over the existing shingles? Sure? And 231 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:55.159 will it do its job? Likely? Yeah? And then you 232 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.919 put other shingles on top of it, or you going 233 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.799 to have a leak. Probably not. But here is the thing. 234 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:04.559 It's not recommended, it's not warrantied for that. And the 235 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:08.679 one issue that you could develop is moisture issues because 236 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:13.039 the self ceiling underlayment is not designed to seal against 237 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:18.519 the uneven surface and the granulated surface of those existing shingles. 238 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:24.279 What it really wants, it wants that smooth plywood roof 239 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.080 to nice and clean and dust free, to stick to 240 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.440 and just become one with. And then you lay shingles 241 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.759 on top of that. So the best thing that you 242 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:38.360 can do is pull those existing shingles off, clear up 243 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:41.559 that deck, and have the self ceiling underlayman. And now 244 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:45.039 the good news is for the future. You lay down one, 245 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.639 you lay down a layer of shingles, and if the 246 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:52.279 next time that you're thinking about or anybody's thinking about 247 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:55.240 putting a new roof on that, you could add another 248 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:59.000 layer of shingles on top of the existing layer of shingles. 249 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.639 With that underlayman, you can go up to two layers 250 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.519 thick by code before you have to tear the whole 251 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:07.399 thing off and start again. But where you're at right now, 252 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:11.519 if there's a problem with that existing roof and it's 253 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:13.759 time to redo it, get all the way down to 254 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:19.399 the wood and then lay down those self ceiling underlayman sheets. 255 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:22.639 Okay, So do I take the paper off too? 256 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:24.240 Yeah? 257 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:28.919 Because the Yeah, because the self feeling underlayment replaces the paper. 258 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.600 There's no need for paper. It is the new improved 259 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:33.559 roofing paper. 260 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.960 All right, Thank you so much. I do appreciate you. 261 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:42.840 And it's amazing what you do for me. Thank you. 262 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:46.480 Oh Grace, You're so kind. You're so kind. It's amazing 263 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:51.159 that you are diying at eighty nine. I just I 264 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.679 just love that. I love that. I love your energy. 265 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:58.360 You stay safe and keep listening and keep doing it 266 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:00.559 the right way. I'm not going to steer. You're wrong, 267 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.759 all right, y'all. More of your calls when we return 268 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:08.599 your Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper. You're listening 269 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:12.279 to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from KFI AM 270 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:19.440 six forty Hi Am, the forty Live Dreaming Nate d 271 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:25.000 Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Your Home with Dean Sharp 272 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:28.359 the house whisper. That's me here to talk to you 273 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:34.480 about all things home, whether it's construction, diy, architecture, design, 274 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:39.400 and everything in between. Anything we can discuss to take 275 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.359 your home to the next level, to turn it from 276 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:45.839 an ordinary house into an extraordinary home. Saturday mornings we 277 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.079 take calls. I want to go back to the board 278 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.720 right now. Let's talk to Let's talk to Kathy. Hey, Kathy, 279 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:53.759 welcome home. 280 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:58.720 Hi Dean. I'm so happy to be able to contact 281 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:02.200 to you. I love your show and I have a 282 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:05.440 serious problem. I have no idea what to do, so 283 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:13.359 I figured you'd be the right person to talk to. Okay, okay, 284 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:17.920 So I've lived in the same house for twenty three years. 285 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:24.000 We have a pitched roof with Spanish tiles, and never 286 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:28.079 had this problem before, but just recently, I can hear 287 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:33.240 animals in the attic in my bedroom above and it 288 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.519 sounds like they're scratching very loudly, like they're going to 289 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:42.680 come through the ceiling. And then you can also hear 290 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:47.319 a little little baby sounds. So I'm pretty sure whatever's 291 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:51.599 up there is vested and has had some baby animals 292 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:55.000 as well, And I have no idea what to do, 293 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:56.359 and I don't know if I need to call a 294 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:01.240 wildlife control Kenny or a service. That's how I'd give 295 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:01.720 you a call. 296 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:07.279 Okay, Okay, Yeah, Yeah, You've got some very very likely 297 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:10.200 rodents up there who have found a way to get 298 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:13.160 into your attic because your attic is so nice and warm, 299 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:15.960 and it's so cozy, and it's full of insulation, and 300 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.599 they like to make bedding, and they can nest and 301 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.759 they can have their little babies, and it's a whole thing. 302 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:25.839 You want to call a conscientious company. I'll tell you 303 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:27.960 right now, if you live in southern California, I want 304 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:34.400 you to call Ecola. Okay, and you want to call 305 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.759 just so everybody knows, you want to call a pest 306 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:43.319 control company that conscientiously handles these kinds of things. Eco 307 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:49.880 La does. They also specialize in rodent exclusion and attic 308 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:53.279 cleanup because there are there are things. We don't know 309 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:56.400 how extensive what's going on up there is, but you know, 310 00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:59.519 once there are animals in the attic and they're peeing 311 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:03.839 in their their droppings are everywhere. We want to get 312 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:05.839 all of that cleaned up, and we want to get 313 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:09.240 your attic. You know, sterilized again, and so you need 314 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.920 to have somebody evaluate it. And first of all, the first, 315 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:19.079 the most important two steps is getting the kids that 316 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:22.279 are up there now, getting them out, and then making 317 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:25.599 sure hunting down where it is that they've actually been 318 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:28.960 getting in and making sure that there are there's no 319 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:34.680 ingress into your attic whatsoever. That's exclusion. The very, very 320 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:37.720 best thing you can do with rodents on your property 321 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.160 is not to go to war with them and kill 322 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:44.079 them and bait them and poison them and all of 323 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:47.519 the kind of stuff that so many places recommend. The 324 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:50.799 best thing to do is just let them be outside 325 00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:53.359 doing what they do, but don't let them into the house. 326 00:20:53.599 --> 00:21:00.119 And so a company like Eco La, they specialize in 327 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:05.880 attic rodent exclusion. They'll get you all sealed up, they'll 328 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:09.359 get you cleaned up, and you won't have that issue anymore. 329 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:13.160 Perfect. Thank you so much. 330 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:16.359 You are so welcome, Kathy. And you know what the 331 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:20.319 one thing is, I understand, I get it. It sounds 332 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:23.000 like they're just going to come dropping through the ceiling. 333 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:26.759 They're not. They're up there scratching around and bedding and 334 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:29.359 doing all that. They're not trying to drill through the 335 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:33.079 ceiling to get into your living space, so you can 336 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.519 at least put your heart to rest for that. But yeah, 337 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:38.079 you want to get a dealt with sooner than later, 338 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:40.440 as soon as possible. So give them a call. Tell 339 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:44.960 them I recommended you along the way. They'll treat you right, 340 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:45.519 I promise. 341 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:47.240 All right? 342 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.880 Do we have time to pick up another call here? 343 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.720 We could at least get one started, can't we? Sure? 344 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:56.160 Let's talk to Jeff. Hey, Jeff, welcome home. 345 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:02.039 Hey Dean, how you doing? Quick question for you about 346 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:06.000 redoing our backyard. And I have lines going to our 347 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:11.799 outdoor garage or at detached garage under the slab, and 348 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:14.480 plumbers have said to replace them, and I want to 349 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:17.000 know what the best material is to replace them with. 350 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:20.960 Okay, so you've got you. So you've got water lines 351 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:25.400 headed out to the garage. Yes, and they're running underneath 352 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:25.799 the slab. 353 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:29.839 Yeah, they're running under the the driveway. 354 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:34.039 Oh, running under the driveway. Okay? Yeah? 355 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:34.799 Uh? 356 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:38.000 Have you got access to get lines out there through 357 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:39.599 the yard without the driveway? 358 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:44.440 We will. We're getting the whole backyard redone in a 359 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:45.440 couple of weeks. 360 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:47.559 I got you, I got you, all right? All right? 361 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.759 My friend uh. And what's what's running out there right now? 362 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:52.680 Copper lines? 363 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:54.720 Yes, they're copper. 364 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:59.240 Okay, all right, great, all right, Uh, Jeff, I'm up 365 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:01.640 against a break. Pop you on hold real quick. I'm 366 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.960 gonna let everybody percolate on this question, and when we 367 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.640 come back, I'll get you an answer. You hang tight 368 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:10.519 your home with Dean Sharp the house was we're taking 369 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:14.519 calls as we do every Saturday morning, Dean Sharp the 370 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:19.759 house for at your service, Welcome home, Good Saturday morning 371 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:22.759 to you. Glad that you are here. It is a 372 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:26.960 privilege and a pleasure to be here with you talking 373 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.400 about all things your home. And of course Saturday mornings 374 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.440 are all calls, so you set the agenda. We're talking 375 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.680 to Jeff. I popped him on hold so we could 376 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:42.440 take the call right before the break. Jeff's got some 377 00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:46.279 plumbing lines, some water lines that he needs to run 378 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:51.440 to detached garage and pulling up the old stuff or 379 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:54.559 abandoning the old stuff that's in the ground. Copper right now, 380 00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:57.720 that's in the ground, we're running under a driveway. Wants 381 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:00.480 to know what's going on and what's the what's the 382 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.960 best new material to use? Is that safe to say Jeff, 383 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:04.960 did I summarize that? 384 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:05.279 All right? 385 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.079 Yes, that's correct. 386 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:11.839 Okay, So my recommendation for this situation, at this time 387 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:16.480 in our history of plumbing technology is that I would 388 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:22.680 use without question pex pex pros stranded polyethylene and for 389 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.279 a couple of different reasons. Number one, it's great material. 390 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.440 Number two, it is you can get it in a 391 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:35.839 continuous role. So since you can buy PECKS in continuous 392 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:40.599 tubing that is up to five hundred feet long, you're 393 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:43.240 not going to have any issues whatsoever being able to 394 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.559 run from the source of the water out to the 395 00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:52.839 garage in one continuous role without any fittings whatsoever. And 396 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:56.279 the fewer fittings that are in a plumbing system, the 397 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.000 fewer hassles. And if there are no fittings, there are 398 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:04.160 no hassles the future for leaks and stuff. And PEX 399 00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:08.039 can be buried. It's rated to be buried directly in 400 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:10.759 soil as long as you dig the trench right and 401 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:15.240