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Speaker 1: Hudson River Radio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Everyone from Florida your stupid.

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Speaker 3: Everyone from Florida is dumb.

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Speaker 4: I might not be the brightest cat, but next to them,

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my IQ's high.

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Speaker 5: If they had guitars, here's.

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Speaker 6: How they'd strung.

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Speaker 7: This is John fulbrud Hi. This is jar Williams Hi.

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Speaker 3: This is Mitch Margle of the Tokens Hi.

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Speaker 6: This is Gary Us bonds Man here on the Rock

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and Roll History Show. Well, hello, everybody, Welcome back to

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the Rock and Roll History Show and Hudson River Radio.

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I'm Brian Horowitz. Tonight we're going to talk about the

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state of Florida. But before we hop into that, allow

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me to introduce all the crambones who are joining us

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here tonight. First and foremost, from the Richter Observatory. He

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just bought a sweet car online. Turns out at belong

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to Neil Diamond. Neil Richter is here.

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Speaker 7: I get it, I get it, I got it.

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Speaker 6: I needed that moment of silence.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I got it. I was trying to think

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of a funny come back. Wah wah wah.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes we have to so good, so good.

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Speaker 8: That drives me crazy.

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Speaker 9: Hello.

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Speaker 7: We were singing that last night over it up front.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, that's it. If you're in a crowd

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and everybody's doing it, all right, that's fine. It's not

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something that you need to listen to on your own anymore.

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Speaker 7: Or do you carry it.

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Speaker 6: Because yeah, there's lots of really good stuff out there. Yeah,

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all right, Well, welcome back man from paranormally yours. She says.

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If you ever need to stop a bull from charging,

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just cancel its credit card. Dale, Mum, is here.

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Speaker 10: Brian, that one's older than I am. No, maybe not,

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because they didn't have credit cards until like nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 6: Well, you're a woman. You weren't allowed to have your

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own until what seventy four?

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Speaker 10: I know, but I swear, I swear my mother, God

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rest her soul was the first person I knew to

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have a credit card. She had a Bank America.

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Speaker 6: Card, the old one where you had to chunk a

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chunk across with that reader. Yeah, oh my god. It

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must have been so much easier to just steal back then,

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because if your card was bad, they wouldn't know until

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that night. Right now it's.

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Speaker 7: In, and then anybody can go by and take the

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other half of it and have all your extributions.

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Speaker 6: Yep, yep, there you go. Things are so much better now,

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aren't they. From the silver screen, she saw a pirate

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walk into a bar and the bartender says, I hope

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you don't mind me asking, but how did you get

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that hook hand? And the pirate says, oh, it was

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a swashbuckling accident. And how about that eye patch? How

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did you get that? And the pirate says, oh, seagull

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pooped in my eye. And the bartender says, you lost

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your eye because of seagull poop, and the pirate says,

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are it was the first day with me hook Oh

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for saying this.

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Speaker 7: Kenta here Mercedes, Hey, that was good.

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Speaker 11: That was good, all right?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 7: Bad for the guy though, you should really ow get.

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Speaker 2: The whole.

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Speaker 6: Our official medical person is here. She had a patient

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who couldn't stop telling jokes about airports. She thinks it's terminal.

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Jessica Deane is back.

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Speaker 10: Hey, everybody, that was a good one.

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Speaker 6: Brian, and last but not least, the host of shaving cream.

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She learned that the guy who invented the ferris wheel

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never met the guy who invented the Merry Go Round.

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Turns out they ran in different circles.

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Speaker 7: Very good.

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Speaker 6: Right, So tonight we're talking about the state of Florida,

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and it was Mercedes Idea and Mercedes is in Florida,

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and I understand voluntarily is that correct?

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Speaker 7: It's true. I gotta tell you. The weather's good. God, yeah,

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it's Florida. So Florida is weird.

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Speaker 6: We're recording a few weeks ahead of time. But you

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said it's a nice seventy five. While it is, it

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is not that in New York. Yeah, I've heard enjoy it.

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Speaker 7: I've heard horror story. I keep apologizing to people. I mean, no, no, you.

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Speaker 6: Could rub it in their faces. So enjoy it while

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you're there. Yeah, why don't we just hop right in

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and start, Neil, you're going to lead us off, So

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what do you have for us?

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to think when I have been to flood

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what that noise was. Yes, that burning would smell right

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up there. I'm trying to remember the last time I

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was in Florida. I've been there a few times. It

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was probably sometime in the mid eighties, which is probably

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why I don't remember. But and here's the story to

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the point.

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Speaker 7: For the last decade, I think it's still there.

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Speaker 8: There was like a tourist theme park thing called Push Yes,

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Bush being you know the Bush you know beer company

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that sponsored it. So we went there and there was

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a little kiosk or something like that, and they were

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giving out free samples of Bush beer. Oh man, that's

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like waving a you know, red flag in front of

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a bowl, you know. So of course I think, oh,

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I got it. I went there, I finished it. You know,

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they give you a pretty decent cup, you know, glass

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of beer. Although by the sixth or seventh time that

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I went up there, the guy started to get mad

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at me. He said, no, no, no, no, no, you

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cut off. I was okay, but yeah, so that's probably

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why I don't remember what much about it at the time.

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in the winter, so it worked.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, there's a lot to freak out about Florida.

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Speaker 8: Well I had help.

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Speaker 7: Bluckier than a lot of people. Well that's not true.

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Everybody drinks Danny.

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Speaker 8: They had like, yeah, the convenience stores. I had like

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drive through where you could get beer through the drive

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through window, like a beer in your car, in your

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car driving, you know, thank you drive off with the

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six pack.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of states have that. New Hampshire has

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that you can pull right up the window. Texas has

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that pull right up.

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Speaker 12: Oh.

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Speaker 8: For a brief moment, I considered, you know, relocating, but

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you know, common sense took over. But anyway, enough of that,

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because on March third, eighteen forty five, Florida became the

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twenty seventh state in the US. Florida's nickname is the

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Sunshine State.

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Speaker 6: It has a lot of nicknames, to be fair, the

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same Florida.

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Speaker 8: Also, Florida also leads the US in tornadoes and hurricanes

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and experiences more lightning strikes than anywhere else in the country.

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Oh my, okay, that's the Sunshine State.

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Speaker 6: You know what. The Simpsons call it, the America's wang.

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Speaker 13: Oh oh boy.

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Speaker 8: It's also known for its large retirement population. Yep so,

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Florida is sometimes referred to as God's waiting room butt

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that sink in. Tallahassee is Florida's state capitol, and it's

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located in the state's Panhandle region, which has an area

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of about ninety eight square miles. Tallahassee is also known

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as a big college town, home to several large universities,

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with a student population of over seventy thousand. Tallahassee Lassie

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is the name of a song and it was co

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written by Bob Crue and Frank Slay. Bob Crue was

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also known for helping write many top ten hits for

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the Four Seasons, and Frank's Slay would also go on

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to produce the hit Incense and Peppermints by the Strawberry

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al Arm Clock. Now, there was also another person involved

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who helped write the song. His name was Frederick Piccoriello,

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but he's probably better known as his stage name Freddie

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Boom Boom Cannon, and that's whose recording of Tallahassee Lassie

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we're going to hear in just a few minutes now.

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Cannon's Tallahassee Lassie reached number six on the US Pop Chart,

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number thirteen on the US R and B Chart, and

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number seventeen on the UK Singles chart. All in nineteen

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fifty nine. It sold over one million copies, which awarded

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it a gold record by the RIAA. And Tallahassee lass

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Who was ranked number forty on Billboard's year end Hot

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one hundred Singles chart also in nineteen fifty nine. Same year,

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British pop star Tommy Steele also reached the charts with

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a version of Tallahassee Lassie, and that went to number

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sixteen on the UK Singles Chart. And it's kind of

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interesting how this song about Florida became so popular over

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there in the UK, although I do remember hearing that

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for those who could afford it, Florida was like a

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preferred holiday destination, vacation place for people, you know, in England,

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in Great Britain. And if you've ever been to any

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of the beaches in England, you know why Florida.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, rocks, yeah exactly, not sand rocks.

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Speaker 8: Rocks, yeah, they you know, future sand but they used

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rocks right anyway. The song was also featured on the

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album The Explosive Freddy Cannon in nineteen sixty Now. Freddy Cannon,

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an American rock and roll singer, was born in nineteen

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forty in Massachusetts, and besides Tallahassee Lassie, he's also known

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for his other hits Way Down Yonder in New Orleans

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and Palisades Park, the latter actually being written by a

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man named Chuck Barris. And for those of you old

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enough to remember The Gun Show, yes, hell yeah, that

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Chuck Barris. Freddy grew up listening to rhythm and blues

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music on the radio, and he was later influenced by

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the rock and roll pioneers like Chuck Barry and Little

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Richard and Cannon began his musical career in nineteen fifty eight,

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recording a single with a group called the spin Drifts,

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which became a local hit. His growing popularity in the

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Boston area led him to a management contract with a

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Boston DJ who teamed him up with the writing and

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production team of Bob Crue and Frank Sligh, and they

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began working on a new song, which Freddy called rock

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and Roll Baby. They rearranged the song, rewrote the lyrics,

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and renamed it Tallahassee Lassie, and as it turned out,

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the initial demo was rejected by several record companies until

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until it was heard by a man named Dick Clark.

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Yes that Dick Clark from TV's American Bandstand, who also

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happened to be part owner of a record label called

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Swan Records in Philadelphia. Now it was Clark who suggested

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that the song be re edited and overdubbed by emphasizing

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a pounding bass drum and adding handclaps, and it was

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also Clark's idea to add Freddy's cries of whoo to

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the song, which we'll hear I don't think I do

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it justice, and that would become later one of Freddy

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Cannon's trademarks, the Whooow. Freddy stayed with the Swan label

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along with producer Frank Sligh for the next five years.

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He become known as Freddy Boom Boom Cannon, and he

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gained national exposure courtesy of Dick Clark with numerous appearances

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on American Bandstand, a record one one hundred and ten

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appearances in all.

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Speaker 3: Where does she.

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Speaker 14: Come from tallahassee, Well, she got a high pot.

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Speaker 4: Chassy Well, maybe he looks a little sassy Hello box

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of Macy's reel classy Well came a glassy lassy down an.

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Speaker 3: Air belly.

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Speaker 15: Well he dropping through the drag, the Chuto rag box

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top and the shag who rocks the body hot.

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Speaker 7: Whell's. He dances to the bop, She dances to the

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stroll ADSs to the walk.

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Speaker 2: Woot she can lock con rolls in.

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Speaker 14: Mantella has lassy oo Yeah, Mattella lassy lassy whoo geez.

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Mattella has lassy down in there belly.

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Speaker 15: Well, rob it through the drag, the chat of rags,

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box TK, the shad.

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Speaker 2: Who rocks the bunny hotoo whoo whoo.

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Speaker 15: Where he dances to the bop, She dances to the stroll,

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She dances to the walk whoop.

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Speaker 2: She can lock co rolls in. Mandela has lassy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, come on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: How many times did he say? I don't know, I

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didn't count it.

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Speaker 6: I make that noise when I slip on the ice.

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Speaker 8: There's a yeah, followed by other sounds that compete on

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I can't say on the radio. Yeah. There's a drinking game,

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you know, have a have a, have a shot? Every

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Speaker 7: Say it's a lot of woo's and a lot of

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shots in a lot of two and a half minutes.

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Speaker 8: It's a lot of bush a lot of bush beer.

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Let me tell you something. Anyway. His follow up single

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was called Okie Fink, which is another Florida reference, but

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that did do quite as well. It only reached number

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forty three on the charts, but after that, with big

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hits like Way Down Yonder in New Orleans and Palisades Park,

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it solidified his place in rock and roll history. He's

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continued to record and perform ever since, most recently releasing

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an ode to the legendary MeTV Horror show host Svengoli. Yeah,

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I know a few of us here on the panel

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are fans of Hems. It was called the Svengouli Stomp

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in twenty sixteen. As of this taping, Freddy Cannon currently

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resides in Tarzana, California, and in closing, I refer to

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the words of the late great rock writer and singer

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from the band Brownsville Station, who's nineteen seventies hit Smoking

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in the Boys Room. No, No, not the Motley Crue

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cover in the eighties. I'm talking about Brownsville Station cub Coda,

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who said, quote, Freddy Cannon was a true believer, a

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rocker to the bone. Freddy Cannon made rock and roll records,

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great noisy rock and roll records, and all of them

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were infused with a gigantic drum beat that was an

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automatic invitation to shake it on down.

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Speaker 6: Whoo excellent, excellent, all right, thank you, Neil, Gail, Gail,

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You're up well.

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Speaker 10: Neil and his song are very difficult to act to

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follow because I was kind of desperate when I was

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trying to find a song for this topic that actually

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said stuff about Florida. So I went digging deep into

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the Google universe and found someone called boy Pierce pi

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E RCEE. He's a Wilmington, Delaware native. He grew up

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near Wilmington. He's a Silesian school graduate, and he went

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on to the University of Delaware where he earned a

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degree in bioscience in two thousand and seven. Now his

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musical pursuits. Pursuits began during his living in the University

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of Delaware dorms around that time because the song while

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all of his work really is like hip hop slash

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rap style. So when he was living in the dorms

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at University of Delaware, he began freestyling for fun with

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his friends and that's where he ended up taking off

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doing beats and rhymes ever since. After college, he moved

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to Philadelphia, where he lived for about five years and

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was performing at venues across Philadelphia in twenty eleven. A

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couple of years later, he moved to New York after

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successful performance at a showcase at the East Village's Webster Hall,

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which I've never been to, but that doesn't mean anything.

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I have a lot and I figured I figured you

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and Neil probably have been there quite I used to

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live across.

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Speaker 8: The street, so yeah, okay, Webster Hall was it was

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called the Ritz back in the Okay, in that lost

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decade of the eighties.

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Speaker 7: So it free passes because they gave match to other

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people that lived on the block, Becau. They didn't want

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any trouble. Oh nice, it's the only one that cashed it.

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Speaker 10: Nice.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 10: So sometime after that. He has since performed at Brooklyn's

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Knitting Factory. No idea, what that is?

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Speaker 7: It used to be in New York. Now it's great.

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Helped me out here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, No, there's one originated. I think there's two of them.

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There's one in Brooklyn and one in Manhattan at the Okay,

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I forget which came first that you know, I think.

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Speaker 7: Not one in Brooklyn anymore.

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Speaker 8: It closed, it did, okay, So there's yeah, there's one

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in down in Lower Manhattan. We've been there. We've been there, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 10: And in Philadelphia. He has performed in places like King

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Fu Necktie all right, and Milk Boy. He's been on

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stage three times at Wilmington's nineteen eighty four, which is

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a concert venue slash arcade and those shows are usually

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held during the winter holidays when he's back home visiting

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family and friends. He's a rapper and producer, and he's

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found some success online, which I've only found his stuff

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online in music videos. I had never heard of him before,

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but apparently in a certain genre he's very, very popular.

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He's got a ton of music videos, and I would

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have thought they'd be kind of parodying whatever place he's

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talking about, but no, he just says stuff about different

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places or people or whatever. Some of his videos have

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featured pop culture themed songs, focusing on everything from the

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Philadelphia Eagles players. He's got a lot of songs about

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the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And there's one purely about the cult comedy film

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Office Space. I've really got to find that one. Anyone

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who has watched Office Space?

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Speaker 6: Barberous one of my favorites. Absolutely, Oh yeah, PC load Letter.

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Speaker 10: So both former Eagles quarterback Nick Foles and Eagles wide

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receiver DeShawn Jackson have been song subjects, with the Folds

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song garnering seventy four thousand views on YouTube since its release.

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Jackson shared the video about him on his own Instagram stories.

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He's also released themed songs tied to musical acts, television shows,

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and movies, such as Ultimate Phish, Phish Tribute, Ultimate Seinfeld Tribute,

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Ultimate Home Alone Tribute, and also a pair of albums,

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twenty Eighteen's Homemade and twenty Sixteens Moments. There's one called

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a Park Tour, series of video that feature him with

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headphones in public barks in cities such as New York, Philadelphia, Chicago,

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and Nashville. In each video, Pierce listens to the beat

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through headphones and performs live into a microphone. From memorization,

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you can tell he's younger than me because memorization and

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passerbys can't hear the music, so they kind of think

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he's nuts as he's going along doing this. And sometimes

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it's just him with a tripod shooting the video early

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in the morning because his day job and I couldn't

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find his real name anywhere. His day job is at

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a New York advertising agency. Now, he says, it's just

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utter confusion, he said, adding that some people try to

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take a surreptitious video or photo of him on their

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phones as they go by. They think this guy's really

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lost it, So let's have a listen.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm going back to Florida like my man Thomas

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Edison packed. I'm a pack and not jettison, going back

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to Florida, catching waves in the Upper Glades, sunshine and

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a getaway. Going back to Florida. Rest stop at the

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cock AIRBMB in the best spot going back to Florida.

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I'm going going back back to Florida and I'm working remotely.

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I'm gonna get real into fishing and boating. Yeah, I'm

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living that salt life. Crocs at the outlet Copper the

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small price. You can catch me on a paddle board

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on an air boat, flying like the mandalor only ride

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with Geezers, rock and Matami, Bahama two shirt. Let's Imma

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gated community h O A cleaning.

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Speaker 16: Fee eighty two degree eight.

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Speaker 12: There's amenatees and ses. The key to the publics a

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rush for necessities you have for the Florida state. A

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post off at the Edison in Florida state.

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Speaker 2: What's for the state.

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Speaker 12: Because I'm stressed on the northeast, so it's not a

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short least because I'm going back to Florida like my

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man Thomas Attis, pack come pack in a jettison, going

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back to Florida. Catching waves in the Upper Gleads, Sunshine

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in a getaway, going back to Florida. Rest stop at

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the Epcot Airbnb in the best spot, going back to Florida.

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I'm going going back back to Florida. Getting down with

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the snowbirds. They've been out in a bounce its October.

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King of the Big Box Retail, clear Water Cape, Coral

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sand and l Seashells, Mini golf on the Highway, feasting

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a flood Ruckers frides on a Friday climb for Kaloosa,

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Hatchie and pool signed eating some grouper, Laughing for a nurse,

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eating your dervs, wink news reporters, New Yorkers works with

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the big wheels, rushed for a quick meal, brunch at

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the First Watch Colvers for kids meals, and don't you

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dare call the porch when you sit on.

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Speaker 15: My latti at a flawless resort.

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Speaker 12: Teeing off of a Force eighty key lion pod driving

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Interstate seventy five because I'm going back to Florida, Like

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my man Thomas had to say, pack up a pack

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and that you had to sit Going back to Florida.

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Catching waves in the Upper Glades, sunshine in a getaway

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going back to Florida rest stop at the cock Air

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b a B in the best Spox going back to Florida.

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I'm going going back back to Florida, Florida.

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Speaker 10: I think it's cute.

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Speaker 6: That was funny, that was good.

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Speaker 16: That was good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Now about this particular song going back to Florida, he says,

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I spent the month of April twenty twenty one in

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a rented condo in Southwest Florida in Fort Myers, working

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remotely and seeing family in the area. That month turns

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into a time of creativity. We're writing and recording one

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Florida song, turned into shooting a music video and creating

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a full EP of Florida songs.

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Speaker 13: Love it.

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Speaker 6: That's great, all right? Sometimes do you find your calling

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and there it is.

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Speaker 8: I like that he walks around, you know, rapping with

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the headphones on and nobody can he says, Oh, people

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look at him like he's no around here. That's normal,

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you know, Yeah, yeah, pretty much. People do that all

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the time.

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Speaker 6: Actually, that's a little more courteous than most people. Most

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people just put it on speaker and blast it on

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their phone without headphones. Yeah, those are the people that

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should be tariffed anyway. Thank you, Gail. That was a

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good one.

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Speaker 10: Thanks.

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Speaker 6: We're going to take a real quick break and we're

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going to be back with more Florida right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is Hudson River Radio dot Com.

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Speaker 17: Ah Y, this concludes the first part of this cassette.

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Please turn the cassette over and begin again on side.

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Speaker 6: To what's in River Radio dot Com. Your mom likes us,

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and welcome back. We're talking about Florida today and we're

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up to the one person who's actually in Florida today,

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and that would be Mercedes.

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Speaker 7: I have so much to say about Florida. I thought

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I want, oh no, go on. I have two Instagram

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feats that I that I follow and one of them

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is only in Florida and the other one is Florida Man,

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and they're hilarious and they're all true. I mean, Florida

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is different from New York. So let me tell you

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about my song. The name of the band is Chumbo Wamba.

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They were a British I knew I was going to

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mess up this word and nacro punk band that'd sound right,

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who formed in nineteen eighty two and disbanded in twenty twelve.

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So anacro punk is described in Wikipedia like this also

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known as an at nac Why can't we say this?

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I like really can't say this.

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Speaker 10: Sounds it out A N A R C H I

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s T.

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Speaker 7: Come mind, you all know this word.

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Speaker 10: Anarchist Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Rebel, also known as anarchist punk or peace punk. It's

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an ideological subgenre of punk rock that promotes anarchism. Their

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biggest hit was tub Thumper, which I had to go

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listen to and I have that CT of course. It's

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one of those songs that you already know but never

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knew the name. I get down, get knocked.

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Speaker 6: Down, I get up again. You're never going to bring

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me down?

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Speaker 8: OK?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You drink a whiskey drink.

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Speaker 8: I do.

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Speaker 6: You drink a voga drink, which I think is gail.

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You drink a logger drink which is definitely test. Drink

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a cider drink.

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Speaker 7: I was right along with you with all of them.

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's all like a flight. You could do it

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like a flight. You drink a whiskey drink, you drink.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't.

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Speaker 7: It's an Elliott said that the name of the band

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came from a dream that one of the members had

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in which public bathrooms where were there were men and

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women signed, but they were replaced with chumba and wamba.

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But that's not necessarily true and not the stories. The

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band used to busk in Paris, and North American drummers

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would come and bust near them and totally blow them

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off the corner. They would sing chump chumball whalen, and

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they like the sound of it, so they came up

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with their own version of it. It supposedly means nothing

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from an article in Jacobin dot com. According to Steve Albini,

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a record producer who worked on the Pixies and Nirvana

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00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,119
and more, his version of the Chumberwoman narrative is by

471
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,079
now familiar. They were an awesome underground what's the word again,

472
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:50,920
gal anarchist, anarchist squatterbuk band who sold out and became

473
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,920
a one hit wonder. They were then quickly tossed away

474
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,920
by the record company to make rown for the next

475
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,240
big thing. Another band came down the conveyor belt thinking

476
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:02,079
they were going to it differently, And we're exploited and

477
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:05,880
used as well, and so on like this. Bands and

478
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,240
careers are made and broken, destined for the landfill, and

479
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:11,319
that's pretty much how it goes.

480
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:11,559
Speaker 2: Right.

481
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 8: Where can I get online for that? That would be

482
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,720
fine with me. One hit?

483
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:23,599
Speaker 7: Yeah right, I'm good. We're still talking about all those

484
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,559
people that have one hit. They're still in our playlist,

485
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:35,119
you know. Anyway, Let's play this song. It's called Celebration Laura.

486
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: The good folks pull together.

487
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,599
Speaker 5: It's July on forever.

488
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:54,039
Speaker 18: Down inside Ebration, Florida. The neighbors bring you coffee and

489
00:32:54,279 --> 00:33:01,279
everyone's always happy. Down inside Ebration, Florida.

490
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:05,799
Speaker 5: The laser bakes.

491
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,279
Speaker 2: At the schoolhouse and.

492
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: The selling in ourserts by keeping out the Devians to

493
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,599
protect the residence.

494
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: Of Side Libration.

495
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:26,559
Speaker 2: Sidlebration Clarida.

496
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:36,039
Speaker 16: The buying up nostalgia for a time, May God remember

497
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,000
down inside Ebration Florida.

498
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:47,079
Speaker 3: The sharing homemade conscience.

499
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,359
Speaker 16: Even the dogs get facelifts.

500
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 18: Down inside Ebration Glorida.

501
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 5: Who laser bakes set at the schoolhouse and they're selling

502
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:04,799
in ours.

503
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,799
Speaker 2: By keeping out.

504
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 5: The Debiens to protect the residence of.

505
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: Side Libration sid Libration Florida.

506
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 16: Rest Nation, fighting Nation ras kids with mild nutrition.

507
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 5: But not inside Ebration Florida. Social engineering.

508
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:49,559
Speaker 16: It gives you that fuzzy feeling down inside Elbration Florida.

509
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 5: The Lesa Bay said at the schoolhouse, and they're selling.

510
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 7: In ours.

511
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:24,119
Speaker 5: Becky ding out the devias to protect Abrationlebration, Solebration, Solebration,

512
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,280
Silebration Fvlida.

513
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:35,199
Speaker 7: Oh I do hope you caught the line about even

514
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,079
the dog dogs baseline.

515
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,679
Speaker 1: That was hilarious.

516
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 7: So about let's talk about Celebration Florida. It's a real

517
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:50,559
town and it's called Disney's Town of Celebration in its

518
00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:55,679
early days in an It is an MPC or Master

519
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,519
Planned Community. It's in Acola County, Florida, and it's a

520
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:07,320
suburb of Orlando near Walt Disney World. This I'm fascinated

521
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,480
with this place. In the beginning, Walt Disney acquired over

522
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:15,039
twenty seven thousand thousand acres through dummy Corporations on the

523
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:20,440
DL to expand on his Disneyland dreams. EPCOT was originally

524
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:24,599
conceived as a utopian city of the future by Walt

525
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:28,599
Disney in the nineteen sixties. The concept was an acronym

526
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:34,320
for Experimental Prototype com Community of Tomorrow, incorporating new ideas

527
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,639
and new technologies that are now emerging from the creative

528
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:43,000
centers of American history industry. I'm like not doing well

529
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:48,440
with my words tonight. It will be a community of

530
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:51,039
tomorrow that will never be completed, but will always be

531
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:54,920
introducing and testing and demonstrating new materials and new systems,

532
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,760
and EPCOT will always be a showcase to the world

533
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,039
of the ingenuity and imagination of American free enterprise. According

534
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:08,239
to Walt, the original vision, sometimes called Progress City, would

535
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,320
have been home to twenty thousand residents and would be

536
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:17,079
a living laboratory showcase showcasing cutting edge technology and urban planning.

537
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,239
It was built in the shape of a circle, with

538
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,599
an urban city center with community buildings, schools, and recreational complexes.

539
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,159
It would be surrounded by rings of residential areas and

540
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,719
industrial areas, all connected by monorail and people movers. I

541
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,400
had to look up. That's elevated monorails.

542
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like the open four seater one right.

543
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

544
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 7: Automobile traffic would be kept underground, leaving pedestrians safe above ground.

545
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,159
Whalt Disney was not able to obtain funding and permission

546
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,079
to start work on this Florida property until he agreed

547
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:57,519
to first build the Magic Kingdom theme park. He died

548
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:06,679
in nineteen ninety six No No. Nearly five years before

549
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,920
Magic Kingdom opened. After Walt Disney's death, the company decided

550
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:13,880
did not want to be in the business of running

551
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,159
a city without Walt's guidance. But the town was constructed

552
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,960
in three years. Builders were brought in that worked cheap

553
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,679
and fast, and because of that, there were problems with

554
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,440
many of the homes, and there are lawsuits concerning outlets

555
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:32,280
that didn't work, moldy walls, shoddy roofs, and balconies separating

556
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,199
from the buildings.

557
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 6: Ooh, that's just a ride utopia. It's called the balcony.

558
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,599
Speaker 7: Walt Disney was an advocate of diversity, although many people

559
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,519
still dispute that, and.

560
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 6: Yes, he loved ten dollar bills and twenty dollars bills.

561
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:53,599
He loved those diversities.

562
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,599
Speaker 7: He wanted to ensure that people of all income levels

563
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:01,880
could live there. There were beautiful There are beautiful Southern

564
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,760
style houses built as well as apartments, all in very

565
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,440
close proximity to each other. To encourage people getting along

566
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:13,519
and chatting with their neighbors, the Disney Corporation advertised in

567
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:17,239
magazines and newspapers that targeted Hispanic and people of color.

568
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:22,360
Brochures were printed that shows showed racial minorities, and African

569
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,280
American workers were hired for the sales office. In nineteen

570
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,039
ninety four, a lottery was used to choose the owners

571
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:31,679
of the first three hundred and fifty houses and one

572
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,840
hundred and twenty three apartments to prevent racial discrimination. However,

573
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,480
the community's racial makeup in twenty twenty was eighty eight

574
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:47,199
percent white. The median age is thirty seven, which is

575
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,559
younger than I expected. Celebration was designed to be walkable, compact,

576
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,880
and vibrant. The town was designed to recapture the idea

577
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,039
of a traditional American town. The town was described I

578
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,079
designed to be esthetically nostalgic but innovative. The town was

579
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:09,599
planned to be picture perfect but not exclusionary. As of

580
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,320
twenty twenty, population was eleven thousand and one seventy eight.

581
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,440
The town is still going strong, although it does not

582
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,440
have underground parking.

583
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 6: Or trams or good balconies.

584
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 7: Apparently, the Style committee is very strict and very strong.

585
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,519
They come around and tell you when to paint your mailbox,

586
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,320
or that you cannot paint your door a certain color,

587
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:35,760
and they bring paint chips, or that you can't remove

588
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,119
the wooden picket fence around your yard because it fits

589
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,320
in with the original style, even though the upkeep is

590
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:46,679
very time consuming. I watched the documentary The Bubble on

591
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:53,280
the subject and many YouTube videos, and I find this fascinating.

592
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,599
It is so Truman show and people go there as tourists,

593
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,760
which is wild to me. It's like they're going to

594
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,599
look at the people in their quote unquote natural environment.

595
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:11,000
One woman said a group knocked on her door and

596
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:13,559
stared when she opened it, as if she wasn't a

597
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:17,679
real person. Many people love the community, many people don't.

598
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,760
People who grew up there tend to leave. Another name

599
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,239
for the area is the Villages, which I was failure with.

600
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:26,599
Speaker 12: Ye.

601
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 10: I have a friend that I've known since kindergarten that

602
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,679
lives in the Villages, and I goof on him about

603
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,880
it all the time because of the reputation for shall

604
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,880
we say, promiscuous seniors.

605
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,039
Speaker 7: Yes, well there's that too, at least there's rumors of

606
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,639
that not documented. So, by the way, do you think

607
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:50,599
it's a conservative or liberal town.

608
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 6: Well, as soon as you said the Villages, that's ultra red,

609
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,239
isn't it.

610
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 10: Oh that's the case. If that's the case, then my

611
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,119
friend does not fit in there at all.

612
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:15,159
Speaker 8: I'm still stuck on the promiscuous seniors work for Where

613
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:15,840
do I send my.

614
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 7: At I think it's called the seven oh four club

615
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:27,360
or something like that.

616
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 6: That was Archie Bunker's house number. Oh perfect, I wonder

617
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,920
if that has something to do with it.

618
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:42,679
Speaker 7: Maybe. So no one for red, one for blue. It

619
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,719
is extremely conservative.

620
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:50,199
Speaker 10: Really, that surprises me.

621
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 6: Do I get a prize?

622
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm working on it all right, thank you.

623
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,079
Speaker 8: Yeah. Do they sell tickets to these people that I

624
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:03,840
mean and stare at them as they walk around?

625
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 7: It's a town. It's like it's like if people came

626
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,280
into Nayaka's as well. I guess they do right now.

627
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,199
They kind of a bad example.

628
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,519
Speaker 6: Yeah. But do they knock on doors and stare at people?

629
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 12: No.

630
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:18,079
Speaker 7: This woman said that that people came up and had

631
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:22,039
her there a wedding on her porch. She like, what

632
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,599
the heck? Didn't know that.

633
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 6: I hope it wasn't under a balcony.

634
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 7: Oh, I love it. I think it's so weird. I

635
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,039
love that they sang a song about it.

636
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 6: Yes, that is funny. I didn't know celebration in the

637
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,800
villages were the same. I've heard I've heard about like

638
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,719
a big thing, like everybody has a golf cart, Right,

639
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,400
isn't that a thing? Everybody has a golf cart to

640
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:49,920
get around?

641
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:53,639
Speaker 7: Everybody walks? Really, it seems like, at least in the

642
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,880
documentary and other YouTube videos. Yeah, I'm not one hundred

643
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,280
percent sure on that, but it's so libration is one.

644
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,079
Speaker 6: Part of it, and then there's other, and then there's

645
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:06,559
the village, like the villages you've here went with all

646
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:09,559
the politics going on. Yeah, I'm not picking a side

647
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:11,800
for the during the show. I'll do that before and after.

648
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:14,639
But you hear about the villages and the rallies going

649
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:16,480
on at the villages and on. But I didn't realize

650
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:17,119
it was the same.

651
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,599
Speaker 10: Oh my god.

652
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:20,559
Speaker 6: Wow.

653
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 7: I mean there's a lot more, but there'll be another

654
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:26,119
time to talk about that, okay.

655
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,639
Speaker 6: And and did they cover how Walt used to have

656
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:35,000
the cigarettes retouched out of his hands for all the

657
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:36,079
publicity photos.

658
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,159
Speaker 10: Oh my goodness.

659
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 6: He was a constant smoker. So if you look at

660
00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:41,880
old pictures of Walt Disney, he's got his fingers held

661
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,239
like he was holding a cigarette, but there's no cigarette

662
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,239
because he had it retouched out.

663
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:53,159
Speaker 8: No photoshop, well pre photo than Disney to you know,

664
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,639
do the photo shopping.

665
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, come on with that all illusion right.

666
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,639
Speaker 6: The whole thing. And if you want to park your

667
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,400
car underground, just wait. There'll be a sinkhole coming along

668
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:04,960
any minute.

669
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:12,639
Speaker 7: So when the balconies start to fall, that could.

670
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,119
Speaker 1: Be another song.

671
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 6: Pretty soon that balcony is going to be the first floor,

672
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,119
so then write a song about that. Yeah, all right,

673
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:26,159
that was a good one. I learned a lot which

674
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:30,320
is kind of disturbing. So that was and I did

675
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,400
not expect that style from Chumbawamba.

676
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,199
Speaker 8: That was.

677
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,119
Speaker 6: That was like Peter Paul and Mary Ish kind of

678
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:42,000
you know. So that was good. That was a good surprise. Awesome,

679
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,039
all right, thank you, and I cannot wait to hear

680
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:46,000
what Barbara has.

681
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,159
Speaker 13: For us, most assuredly will tell you that you can.

682
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:57,239
All right, don't hate me, okay. I was looking all

683
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,400
over for a Florida song. I decided to maybe focus

684
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:06,440
on cities, and I came across this Florida theme song.

685
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:13,000
It's called Tallahassee tremendous song. It's by a guy called

686
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,239
Matt Farley. He was born June third, nineteen seventy eight.

687
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,400
He's an American musician. Podcaster, author and filmmaker. He has

688
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:26,920
released over twenty five thousand songs, but you probably have

689
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:31,800
never heard of him. For his recordings, he uses many pseudonyms,

690
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,760
including I'm only gonna name some because some of them

691
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,079
were just like two bad taste for me to even mention,

692
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:47,039
including the Toilet bowl Cleaners, Papa Papa Rozzi and the Photogs,

693
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,960
and the Hungry Food Band, which I have featured on

694
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:56,199
Shaving Cream. For Tonight's Florida theme show, I have chosen

695
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:59,519
a song called Tallahassee tremendous song and it can be

696
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:03,360
found on the twenty twenty one album The Florida City

697
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:07,320
town Songs. Indeed, and the pseudonym he used this album

698
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:11,800
is the guy who sings songs about cities and towns.

699
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 10: Okay.

700
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 13: While at college, Farley joined the band mose Haven with

701
00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:24,000
his friend Tom Salzo and attempted to record one album

702
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:26,360
per day every day for a year.

703
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 7: One album yes yes, yes, yes, yeah so such high quality?

704
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, probably some drugs to.

705
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:48,119
Speaker 13: He left CDs in public places and gave rids to

706
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,119
the airport so he could get people to listen to

707
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,199
the band's music. Talk about active audience.

708
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: Really.

709
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,599
Speaker 13: He also had a full time day job at a

710
00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:02,199
group home. In two thousand and four, he began to

711
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,119
upload his music to the site CD baby, an online

712
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,760
distributor of independent music, and later discovered that his comical

713
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,840
music was getting way more downloads than the rest of

714
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,480
his music.

715
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:18,079
Speaker 7: He later, so we had I'm sorry, so he had

716
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:20,079
straight music, Like, I.

717
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 13: Didn't even touch upon his straight music because this stuff

718
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,599
was just so out there. It was a big old

719
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:32,119
rabbit hole, and there was just album after album after album,

720
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:37,199
and there was just so much stuff. He later uploaded

721
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,480
mose Haven's entire catalog to Spotify and iTunes, and by

722
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:46,119
twenty fifteen, he was recording over two hundred songs a month,

723
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,519
totaling over sixteen thousand songs, including a ninety two song

724
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:52,719
album about office supplies.

725
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 8: Who has the spare time to?

726
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,599
Speaker 7: Apparently he did.

727
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Wait did you say it had ninety two songs?

728
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 6: I did?

729
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,519
Speaker 7: Who is time to listen to that?

730
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: Never mind write it?

731
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:11,159
Speaker 8: And it.

732
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,079
Speaker 6: Driver? That's about it.

733
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,599
Speaker 13: Yeah, in well, like I did read something that he

734
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,960
worked full time, but he didn't work every day of

735
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,599
the week, so he would work like maybe three days

736
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:30,840
a week and cram all his hours. His full time

737
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,719
hours and then on his days off is when he

738
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,440
did all this, And actually, in twenty seventeen he did

739
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:42,960
quit his day job. And his music is characteristic of

740
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:46,280
vocals accompanied by piano, and many of his albums often

741
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,599
include up to one hundred songs. Uh so, Now to

742
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,920
illustrate that quality is better than quantity, here is Matt Farley,

743
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,199
the guy who sings songs about cities and towns.

744
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:11,199
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, it is the capital city of Flower US.

745
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:22,119
Oh yeah, Tella has Seen. What a wonderfuck community home

746
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:32,119
to Florida State University. Tell I has is a wonderfu community.

747
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,840
I love to go downtown and look at all the

748
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:42,199
big buildings. I just love everything.

749
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 7: About tallahass To, Florida.

750
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, Talla has They got all the government representatives working.

751
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 2: Hard for all the people.

752
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,039
Speaker 6: Love flow.

753
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: Up.

754
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 11: Tallahassee is a wonderful community.

755
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: I love to go.

756
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 11: Downtown and look at the building. Oh yeah, they got

757
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:18,000
lots of creating neighborhoods. Let's go to French Town, Let's

758
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:22,639
have a good time. Let's go to Myers Park. Also,

759
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:29,800
let's go to Southwood, Let's go to Woodland Drives. Those

760
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:42,559
are ound neighborhoods in Tellahassee, Florida, a wonderful all American community. Yeah, Tallahassee,

761
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,360
what a nice, wonderful place.

762
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.

763
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 9: Wow.

764
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 6: And now we know how he's able to churn out

765
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:54,679
so much material.

766
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,119
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think.

767
00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: Wow.

768
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:00,559
Speaker 8: I can't believe he hasn't won a Grammy or something

769
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:00,760
like that.

770
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,039
Speaker 12: I know.

771
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 7: So I want to hear all his other songs about

772
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,519
Oh yeah, the other town.

773
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,199
Speaker 13: He's on Apple Music. Yeah, yeah, I got my uh,

774
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:14,559
I got my ten ninety nine months worth this month,

775
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:15,119
I'll tell you.

776
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:17,639
Speaker 8: So.

777
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 13: Fortunately for us, most of farley songs are only about

778
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,039
a minute and a half. Unsurprisingly, Farley has not visited

779
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:27,559
most of the places about which he sings, which is

780
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:32,159
evident in the generalized lyrics about facts he finds on Wikipedia.

781
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:36,679
And I wanted to mention, just in case you guys

782
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,679
want to just dive down this rabbit hole that Farley

783
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,119
also has an album about New York State called New

784
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,599
York State, Nice Place, New York Song Yes, which was

785
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:51,960
released in twenty thirteen, which includes a few songs about

786
00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:54,480
Rockland County, the home of Hudson.

787
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,159
Speaker 7: River Radio dots, Oh my gosh.

788
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 13: And these include the Ramapos song what a good town

789
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:12,239
that rama po look at all the buildings, quite possibly

790
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,880
the best song ever written about Clarkstown, New York. Then

791
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:23,639
there's one simply called Orangetown, New York. There's another one

792
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,639
called time for a Song about Harristaw, New York, Oh

793
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,719
my gosh, and another one called Spring Valley is a

794
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:32,880
nice New York village.

795
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: Indeed, yes, Point, Stony Point and Tonguin's Cove got left

796
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,280
out way.

797
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 13: As usual, Like I guess I'll have to send him

798
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,920
a little message on Facebook and no.

799
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,119
Speaker 7: No, we're good, tell him we need a new theme

800
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,119
song for this show.

801
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 4: No.

802
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 13: So, so this was me picking a song, like listening

803
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:11,119
to every single song that I could find about every

804
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:15,480
city in Florida and trying to decide which one was

805
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,960
the least objection.

806
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:20,559
Speaker 8: You deserve an award just for that, you know.

807
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 13: Yeah, and yes, I think I was quite feverish when

808
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,599
I actually did pick this.

809
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 8: Well, if you weren't, you were afterwards.

810
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 6: I think you were going to pick this no matter what.

811
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 7: It sounds like.

812
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 13: Barbara, Yeah, all right, yeah, but there you have it,

813
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:46,639
Tallahassee tremendous song.

814
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 7: All right, good pick.

815
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we've earned a break after that.

816
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 13: Do you guys hate me?

817
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 12: No?

818
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 7: I thought that was there was a lot of giggles.

819
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 6: I have to say he made just the right length

820
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,400
because those kinds of songs can tend to repeat. And

821
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,000
we come six minute. You know that was on say

822
00:55:08,039 --> 00:55:09,760
your message and get off. That would have been a

823
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:10,719
good short song too.

824
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 7: So far we've kind of trashed Florida pretty well. No,

825
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,159
I mean, as if there were any other thing.

826
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 8: You could do with mm hmm, I've got visions of

827
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:23,800
palm trees dancing in my head.

828
00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:28,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to point out that we're not trashing Florida.

829
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:32,719
We have picked songs that have trashed Florida. Yes, if

830
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,960
you go to look up songs about Florida, that seems

831
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,519
to be the common thread, not our faults.

832
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 8: Right, So we don't have to trash Florida.

833
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 6: John exactly exactly. So we're gonna take a break and

834
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,039
give you a chance to go around and check out

835
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:52,760
all the buildings, and we're going to be back with

836
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,280
two more right after this.

837
00:55:54,679 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: Hudson River Radio dot com.

838
00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 6: Letgendriverradio dot com and two more Florida songs to go.

839
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:11,239
So we're up to Jess.

840
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:18,559
Speaker 1: Okay, so I can promise you that no one, including

841
00:56:18,599 --> 00:56:21,159
the artists or any of us or any of our listeners,

842
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:25,199
have ever been to this place that my song is about,

843
00:56:25,639 --> 00:56:29,639
because it's actually a fictional place. So this is a

844
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,840
song that does not trash Florida. In fact, it kind

845
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,679
of idealizes it and makes it seem like very romantic

846
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,119
and peaceful and relaxing. But there is so much to

847
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,599
unpack about this song. So I had a ton of

848
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:48,400
fun doing this. So this is where everyone gets to

849
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,280
make fun of me. Sorry, Neil uh. The song is

850
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:55,159
Kokomo by the American rock band the Beach Boys.

851
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 10: That song used to follow me. That song used to

852
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:02,519
follow me all over the place when it was when

853
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:03,199
it came out.

854
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,679
Speaker 1: Well, it was an extremely popular song. And I'll get there, Neil,

855
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,159
did you have something.

856
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,119
Speaker 8: Well, you know, as if on a previous episode of

857
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,760
Rock and Roll History Show, I told you about my

858
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,360
experiences with the Beach Boys and they were all very good,

859
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:24,519
So I have no problem with this.

860
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 7: It's not the Beach Boys. It's the song well okay, okay,

861
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:31,920
and the era.

862
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: And the era because most of the Beach Boys stuff

863
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:38,800
was much earlier. This song was released as a single

864
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:44,360
in July of nineteen eighty eight on Electra Records. It

865
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:48,320
hit number one in the US and Australia. It was

866
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,519
later released in nineteen eighty nine on their album Still Cruising.

867
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,679
The song was written by John Phillips, Scott McKenzie, Mike

868
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,960
Love and Terry Melker. Am I saying that right, Guyscher.

869
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:05,639
The band members who were on the song were Al Jardine,

870
00:58:05,719 --> 00:58:09,719
Bruce Johnston, Mike Love and Carl Wilson. Well, we'll get

871
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:15,440
to the missing member later on. The verse was basically

872
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:18,519
written by John Phillips and John McKenzie on a demo

873
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,519
and then Mike Love later added the chorus. The song

874
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:27,079
was produced by Terry Melcher, created by overdubbing parts onto

875
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:31,880
the demo, so Brian Wilson was not on the recording.

876
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,079
The reason for that really depends on who you ask.

877
00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:38,960
I read a whole bunch of different things as far

878
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:42,039
as to what that was. What Brian wrote in his

879
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,639
memoirs differs from what his manager said was actually the

880
00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:49,639
case at the time, and then the other band members

881
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,199
said that it was because of his manager, who was

882
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,199
his therapist turned manager, and then that person was kind

883
00:58:58,239 --> 00:59:00,599
of controlling what he was doing at the time, so

884
00:59:01,679 --> 00:59:05,360
again all depends on which which version of the story

885
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,519
you read. They did later record a Spanish language version

886
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:15,880
of the song that did include Brian Wilson, so of course, Oh,

887
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,239
let's let's talk about the relation to Florida. So this

888
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,800
island is entirely fictional. It is a fictional, utopian island

889
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,800
that exists off the Florida Keys. The song does also

890
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:33,719
reference several real Caribbean islands, including Aruba, Jamaica, the Bahamas, Martinique,

891
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,519
and Monster Rat. So those are all real islands. But

892
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,719
Kocomo is not actually an island off the Florida Keys.

893
00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:42,880
It is a city in like three different states, one

894
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,639
of which is Indiana. So but but not a place

895
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:53,239
off the Florida Keys. So let's go ahead and listen

896
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,719
to it, and then then we'll get into all the

897
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:55,280
fun stuff.

898
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 9: Jamaica, Jaja that Bama, come bad, Mamago, pantego, Babe, WeGo

899
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:09,960
of the blood.

900
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 19: There's a place called Coo Como, so that's where.

901
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: You wanna go to get away from the bodies. In

902
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:36,920
the same drama coats, nothing in your head will be bothering.

903
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:40,400
Tomba steel room.

904
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 9: Done Cocon Jamaica, Foo, Amma, Jangama.

905
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: Dranma, Brandy, Mama, you are.

906
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,599
Speaker 9: Montego while we go down the Coco.

907
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: We'll get away fast and make it so that's where you.

908
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:12,079
Speaker 9: Way out go aboard to make the Montserrat Steve.

909
01:01:13,639 --> 01:01:15,199
Speaker 7: You have to see.

910
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:23,119
Speaker 2: Will perfect dark Chema street by and bye, will defy

911
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:31,280
the little gravity, afternoon.

912
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:43,159
Speaker 19: Cocktails, that dream of gad give me a drunk bical contact.

913
01:01:44,199 --> 01:01:48,119
Speaker 2: Way down cool art, Jamaica food.

914
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:54,199
Speaker 5: I want to take Aimia Bahama, Comma bread and Mama, you.

915
01:01:54,400 --> 01:02:01,119
Speaker 2: Are going contigo media, have a go go get very

916
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:07,159
fast and then will take a song. That's wh world

917
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:10,320
wa got to go go.

918
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 19: Hold friends, I want to catch a glimpse. Everybody knows

919
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:38,320
a little place like go go.

920
01:02:40,599 --> 01:02:47,039
Speaker 2: Now if you wanna go in a weaken go down

921
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:51,639
the coat and to make up. I want to take

922
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:58,719
up from I'm gone. I'm ready in my back Matigo pay.

923
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,159
Speaker 1: So, of course you can't talk about this song without

924
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,840
talking about the fact that it was included on the

925
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:26,159
soundtrack for the movie Cocktail. Both the song and the

926
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:33,880
movie had terrible, terrible critical reception, and we were kind of,

927
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,679
you know, talking about the movie a little bit amongst

928
01:03:36,719 --> 01:03:39,800
ourselves now I saw it, not in nineteen eighty eight,

929
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,920
because it would not have been appropriate for me to

930
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,079
see it at the time, but I did see it

931
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:47,440
a little bit later on, and of course, you know,

932
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:51,199
when you're in the teenage phase and it's Tom Cruise, like,

933
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,960
you know, you get all soony. But in preparation for

934
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:58,039
this episode, I read the description of the plot, which

935
01:03:58,159 --> 01:04:02,400
is I think like eight paragraphs, and the more you read,

936
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,920
the more you're like, oh my god, this is ridiculous

937
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:08,199
when you, you know, try try to follow.

938
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,119
Speaker 10: This plot.

939
01:04:10,599 --> 01:04:13,199
Speaker 6: Never passed the commercials when it came out, just the

940
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:16,960
commercials were so stupid that I'm like, I don't want

941
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,559
to watch a guy flip bottles in a movie.

942
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: No, Well, that that was added later that I liked,

943
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:30,119
So I guess the movie was actually based on a

944
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:36,320
sort of like semi auto biographical screenplay that was written.

945
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,920
I believe the author's name was Gould, and he kind

946
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,920
of like made the characters by rolling a whole bunch

947
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,920
of people into one sort of. So he was a

948
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,639
bartender and met all of these different people and all

949
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:54,360
of these different bartenders and and wrote this this screenplay

950
01:04:54,519 --> 01:04:59,760
kind of combining these characters and I think the you know,

951
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,719
the a lot of revisions made to the script to

952
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:08,320
be audience pleasing over time. So what we have is

953
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,599
the final product in the movie was not you know

954
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:15,519
how the original screenplay was written, which Gould was criticized for.

955
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,880
But he's like, hey, it was you know, it was

956
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,679
a hit movie. So he doesn't feel that bad about,

957
01:05:21,719 --> 01:05:25,920
you know, kind of allowing it to change and edit

958
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:30,639
over time. But I have to read some of these

959
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,440
comments because it was it was too much to take notes.

960
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,079
Speaker 7: But I like one of these.

961
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there were so many negative comments about the

962
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:48,719
critical receptions of this song. Jimmy Gutterman of Rolling Stone

963
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,159
wrote that the song sets the pattern for the new

964
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,119
passion free songs on Still Cruising. It was called a

965
01:05:56,199 --> 01:06:02,039
joyless ditty. The one I wanted to read, let's see

966
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:08,840
here we Go was okay. Tom Breehand of Stereogum wrote,

967
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:13,519
people hate Kokomo. The Beach Boys improbable late career hit

968
01:06:13,719 --> 01:06:16,679
has a reputation as a monument to mediocrity.

969
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 7: To this day.

970
01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: It serves as a textbook cautionary tale of a once

971
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:25,719
beloved group poisoning its own legacy and goodwill by making

972
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,599
smarmy eighties yuppie pablem. I don't even know what that means.

973
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:41,719
Speaker 7: It's baby boy, but it's like it's like the Pinata.

974
01:06:41,079 --> 01:06:43,679
Speaker 1: Song, but people love it.

975
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 8: It's boys.

976
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so despite the uh, the negative reception. So

977
01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:58,559
this is talking more specifically about the movie right now.

978
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:04,079
It it was nominated for Oh I'm sorry no that.

979
01:07:04,199 --> 01:07:07,920
The song was nominated for two Golden Globe Awards. It

980
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,400
did lose both, but it was nominated for both Best

981
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:17,239
Original Song and Best Song Written Specifically for a Movie

982
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,440
or TV. And I couldn't find out more about like

983
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:26,119
the genesis of you know that it being written specifically

984
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:27,039
for the movie.

985
01:07:29,079 --> 01:07:29,119
Speaker 8: So.

986
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,079
Speaker 1: The movie was on Buenavista Pictures or their adult label

987
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:39,199
Touchstone Pictures. It was released on July twenty ninth, nineteen

988
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:43,280
eighty eight. The top stars were Tom Cruise and Elizabeth Shoe.

989
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,920
The movie won the Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture

990
01:07:50,159 --> 01:07:51,639
and Worst Screenplay.

991
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,039
Speaker 10: All right nice.

992
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:59,599
Speaker 1: However, however, it was the eighth highest grossing movie of

993
01:07:59,719 --> 01:08:03,440
the It made one hundred and seventy million dollars and

994
01:08:03,559 --> 01:08:05,159
had a budget of only twenty million.

995
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 6: Wow, it just goes to show you so and it

996
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,320
goes to show you this is what happened before Netflix

997
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,599
and Hulu and Internet and options.

998
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,239
Speaker 1: The Tom Cruise was nominated for Worst Actor and the

999
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:25,319
director was nominated for Worst Director.

1000
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 7: But I love the Razzies. I'm a voting Razzie member, voting.

1001
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,520
Speaker 6: Can you retroactively add one to this?

1002
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: But what's funny is that in that year, in nineteen

1003
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:58,079
eighty eight, rain Man won Best Picture, Oscar and Cocktail

1004
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,720
won the Worst Picture, and Tom Cruise is the only

1005
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,439
actor to have both of those in the same year.

1006
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:13,199
So it's just I thought it was hilarious. The song

1007
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:17,319
was also performed on episode six, season two of Full

1008
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,479
House John Stamos, the band had a relationship with He

1009
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,760
actually starred in their music video, which was also highly criticized,

1010
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,039
and the song was on The Muppets Beach Party in

1011
01:09:32,199 --> 01:09:39,199
nineteen ninety three. For that particular show, they changed the

1012
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:44,359
lyrics from Tropical Contact High to Tropical Island Sky to

1013
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:45,960
make it more family.

1014
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 7: Friend I did. I didn't even know it said Contact High.

1015
01:09:52,199 --> 01:09:55,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you listen to the lyrics, it's it's in ye.

1016
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,319
Speaker 10: But yeah, just so so int sting.

1017
01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1018
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,399
Speaker 1: There are even articles like why is this song so

1019
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,840
controversial and reading about it, it really wasn't that it

1020
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,039
was controversial. It's just that some people really didn't like it.

1021
01:10:12,359 --> 01:10:15,720
And you know, one of the one of the I

1022
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,760
believe was the drummer just attributed that to how syrapy

1023
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,079
it was. And it also, you know, there were a

1024
01:10:23,159 --> 01:10:26,119
lot of references to this whole like Mike Love versus

1025
01:10:26,199 --> 01:10:29,039
Brian Wilson kind of thing, so that a lot of

1026
01:10:29,119 --> 01:10:32,439
fans didn't like it or were against it because you know,

1027
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:37,399
Mike Love was on it and Brian Wilson wasn't. So whatever,

1028
01:10:38,079 --> 01:10:42,520
syrapey eighties romantic, I think very Florida vibes makes you

1029
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,239
think about you know, get there fast and then take

1030
01:10:45,319 --> 01:10:48,279
it slow. I can see those palm trees you were

1031
01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:50,359
talking about before in the ocean waves. These are the

1032
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,239
things I like about Florida. We're not talking about the

1033
01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:56,479
things I don't like about it right now, and I

1034
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,119
do think that this song brings those things to mind,

1035
01:10:59,239 --> 01:11:02,720
even if it is syrupy and kind of eighties cheese.

1036
01:11:03,159 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 6: All right, I would like to make a motion that

1037
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,479
we have a cocomo jar, and anytime anybody brings a

1038
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:10,920
cocomo you got to put a dollar in.

1039
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:12,199
Speaker 18: From now on.

1040
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:18,119
Speaker 7: That if anybody brings in a cocomo levels song, they

1041
01:11:18,199 --> 01:11:20,479
have to put a dollar in five.

1042
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,199
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm good. We'll have to vote as a collective

1043
01:11:25,279 --> 01:11:28,920
body and see, all right, so we'll call that. We'll

1044
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,079
call that the the cocomo. I move for a cocomo.

1045
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,319
What's the word? I'm looking for, some political something. I'm

1046
01:11:37,359 --> 01:11:40,359
bringing the motion to cocomo to the floor, and then

1047
01:11:40,399 --> 01:11:41,439
we'll have to I.

1048
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 8: Was going to say, we could we've found that like

1049
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:48,039
the yardstick by which all other bad songs are measured. Yeah, well,

1050
01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:50,640
at least it's not as bad as cocomo.

1051
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 6: Okay, not like you know what I mean?

1052
01:11:54,119 --> 01:11:58,159
Speaker 10: Right, So we'll just that's not even a political reference, Brian,

1053
01:11:58,239 --> 01:11:59,560
it's just Robert's rules.

1054
01:11:59,359 --> 01:12:01,039
Speaker 6: Of That's what I'm saying. That's what I was trying

1055
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:02,720
to get at that, you know, make a motion to

1056
01:12:03,279 --> 01:12:04,520
call for a cocomo vote.

1057
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 7: So I'm going to do the pinacle out of song.

1058
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 6: Next.

1059
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 7: Next, bring your.

1060
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 8: Fiver the cocoa meter from one to ten, you know,

1061
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,000
ten being that it's you know, the worse and.

1062
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,399
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, we'll have to discuss this after the show.

1063
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,359
Speaker 8: How we're co com all.

1064
01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 7: Right, you're the logistics.

1065
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:34,359
Speaker 6: I'm liking it. I'm liking it, all right, You're done, right, Jess?

1066
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:43,439
Please Yeah, my choice, like Jess's, does not bash Florida.

1067
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,000
This is one of the two that does not bash Florida.

1068
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,439
It's a band that I don't think we've talked about

1069
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,079
at all in all these years. Molly Hatchett. I don't

1070
01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:53,800
think we've ever talked about Mally Hatchett. All right, so

1071
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,760
here we go. Molly Hatchett a prime example of Southern rock.

1072
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,800
The band was put together in nineteen seventy one by

1073
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:05,119
David lou Bec hl U B E K and I

1074
01:13:05,159 --> 01:13:08,439
hope I'm saying that right, who was born in Jacksonville, Florida,

1075
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,279
in nineteen fifty one. He wrote most of their songs

1076
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:14,000
and was the lead singer and lead guitarist. The roster

1077
01:13:14,079 --> 01:13:16,359
of the band has changed a lot over the years,

1078
01:13:17,119 --> 01:13:20,039
early on, mostly because of what we would politely call

1079
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,359
rock and roll excess, which may or may not have

1080
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,720
included free samples at bush Gardens.

1081
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,079
Speaker 8: The guy behind me was an ex member.

1082
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 6: Would not surprise me. David himself admitted he had to

1083
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,039
leave the band in nineteen eighty seven due to a

1084
01:13:38,279 --> 01:13:44,079
massive cocaine problem, his words massive. He continued to actually

1085
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:47,039
work with other groups. He continued playing. He was able

1086
01:13:47,079 --> 01:13:49,079
to get clean, and he rejoined the band in two

1087
01:13:49,119 --> 01:13:52,000
thousand and five. He died in twenty seventeen from a

1088
01:13:52,039 --> 01:13:56,119
heart attack, which is what happens after a massive cocaine problem.

1089
01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,600
The two can very well be tied together. Now is

1090
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,680
still touring with longtime members, but none of them are

1091
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,840
from the original lineup, but they've all been around a

1092
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,479
long time. They used to do two hundred and fifty

1093
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,600
dates per year, which is a full time job with

1094
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:17,159
no vacation days. They're doing fewer dates now as everybody

1095
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:19,800
gets older, but they're still out there and they're still active.

1096
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,720
They're still touring. David told the story of how they

1097
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,520
got the name of the band. They started playing out

1098
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,359
in the early seventies and in the Jacksonville area they

1099
01:14:28,399 --> 01:14:31,319
had about a dozen rock clubs where bands could find

1100
01:14:31,359 --> 01:14:33,960
steady work. You could actually make a living doing this.

1101
01:14:34,039 --> 01:14:37,239
You would play the circuit and then start all over again.

1102
01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:43,000
Crabby bands who bombed at these at the venues would

1103
01:14:43,159 --> 01:14:45,760
just change their names and then try to get rebooked

1104
01:14:46,039 --> 01:14:48,720
and hope that the manager did not realize that it

1105
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,720
was the same band coming back around again. These guys

1106
01:14:53,039 --> 01:14:55,119
were doing the same thing, but they were actually doing

1107
01:14:55,159 --> 01:14:57,880
really well and started to get a following, But they

1108
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,039
kept changing the name, so people did no it was

1109
01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:05,760
them necessarily the right so they realized that they needed

1110
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,319
to come up with a steady name. So the story

1111
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:11,680
supposedly goes that everybody in the band, six guys all

1112
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,600
put in three names into a hat and it's Florida,

1113
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,840
so it was a John Deere hat, and they started

1114
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,680
picking the names out of the hat, and he said

1115
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,560
that Molly Hatchett was the last one left in the hat,

1116
01:15:26,319 --> 01:15:29,439
which to me makes no sense. You would think it

1117
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,880
would be the first one, right, So unless they were voting,

1118
01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:34,800
or unless they said it was going to be the

1119
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,640
last one, I don't know. But for some reason, supposedly

1120
01:15:38,119 --> 01:15:41,079
Molly Hatchett was the last name left in the John

1121
01:15:41,119 --> 01:15:44,199
Deere hat, so they started using that name, and as

1122
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:47,239
you can imagine, for a while people showed up expecting

1123
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,840
a female singer named Molly Hatchett and were surprised when

1124
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,960
there was no female at all. There's not a lot

1125
01:15:56,079 --> 01:15:59,520
of reliable information on the real Molly Hatchett. If there

1126
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,439
was one. The story goes that her real name was

1127
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,680
Abigail and that she was a prostitute either during the

1128
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,560
seventeen hundreds or in the mid eighteen hundreds during the

1129
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,479
Civil War, which right there makes the story kind of

1130
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,720
fall apart. She got the name the nickname of Hatchet

1131
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:22,479
Molly because she would behead her clients, presumably after the

1132
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,319
transaction was complete or else that would be the worst

1133
01:16:26,399 --> 01:16:28,880
business model that you could completely come up with.

1134
01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 10: I think.

1135
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, So supposedly the nickname was Hatchet Molly and then

1136
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,680
it went into the hat as Molly Hatchet. Southern rock

1137
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,359
is a loose term for a category of rock music

1138
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,680
that falls under Americana. It's a combination of heavy rock beats,

1139
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:52,079
some country style licks, blues chord changes. There's a focus

1140
01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:55,680
on those guitar riffs and strong vocals with lyrics that

1141
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,359
focus on the Southern United States. So the a one

1142
01:16:59,399 --> 01:17:02,720
example would the Almond Brothers, you have Leonard Skinner, Janis

1143
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,840
Choplin falls under the umbrella. Creeden's Clearwater Revival kind of

1144
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,680
falls under that Southern rock as well, even though they're

1145
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,800
from California. They have a lot of songs about the South.

1146
01:17:13,359 --> 01:17:16,640
Later on Zzy Top Ceezy Top falls under a Southern

1147
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,239
rock style. The lyrics for the song We're Gonna Listen

1148
01:17:20,319 --> 01:17:25,039
to Gator Country they were written by the original bassist

1149
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:28,079
Banner Thomas. It's a tongue in cheek, jab and all

1150
01:17:28,119 --> 01:17:30,479
the other Southern rock bands who were singing about their

1151
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,600
own states. So they go down the list. They knock

1152
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:37,920
Leonard skinnerd with Sweet Home Alabama. They knocked Charlie Daniels

1153
01:17:38,039 --> 01:17:44,239
The Devil went down to well, the song is Georgia.

1154
01:17:46,199 --> 01:17:50,239
That was not the answer I was expecting. But they

1155
01:17:50,279 --> 01:17:53,159
don't even knock Georgia because Charlie Daniels lived in Tennessee.

1156
01:17:53,279 --> 01:17:56,479
So they knocked Tennessee because of Charlie Daniels. Dicky Betts

1157
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,319
of the Allman Brothers was from Macon, Georgia, the Marshall

1158
01:17:59,359 --> 01:18:02,199
Tucker Band from South Carolina, and a few others. So

1159
01:18:02,319 --> 01:18:04,600
they just went down the list. They were all friends.

1160
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,000
It was all tony cheek. There were no hard feelings

1161
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,479
or anything along those lines. So let's check out Gator

1162
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:11,840
Country by Molly hatch It.

1163
01:18:19,600 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 20: Scanner Sands a faschange the Man the Man, when I'm

1164
01:19:12,079 --> 01:19:14,520
going Man to the Gators Factry.

1165
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 2: And give me some albo. Start the mo.

1166
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 20: No searching for my snot they can't take a niggas

1167
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:12,359
moves the Outlaws down and champs tails. Amount of fact

1168
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,640
less mean the guy mean rest guys trying to be

1169
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,199
show looks good to me.

1170
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:58,039
Speaker 2: And that was she So name you better make a bullets.

1171
01:20:43,000 --> 01:21:29,520
Speaker 6: Coach, John, I would say, a good example of selling.

1172
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,600
And I think it's funny poking fun at everybody else.

1173
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,399
So yeah, I had a gator experience. We were talking

1174
01:21:36,399 --> 01:21:38,720
about gators while it was playing too, and I had

1175
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,800
my own gator experience. It was in Mississippi, but it

1176
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,039
was I was out for a bike ride and through

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a Causeway International Park and there were signs that said

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do not feed the alligators. And I'm like, yeah, that's

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01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:52,520
pretty funny. And then I was like, wait a minute,

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I don't think it was meant to be funny. And

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then you look on either side of you and yeah,

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01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,479
there's gators all the way down, just sitting on the side. Yeah,

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01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:05,079
them on a bike and they were probably four foot long,

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but when there's no barrier, they're eighteen feet long and

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ready to grab you.

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Speaker 7: I had a dream the other night that one crawled

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into bed with me and put his head on my

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shoulder and fell asleep.

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Speaker 1: Oh I was okay, I bet dream analysts.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so scared.

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01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 8: Wow, you know I just read a thing too that

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I mean, this was the old you know, the old

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01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,039
urban legend about you know, people in New York City

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and they had like pet alligators and they would like

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01:22:37,279 --> 01:22:40,760
flush him down the down the toilet and then they

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01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:45,840
you know, grow And I read it and there you

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01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,199
know that they're maybe it was like the onion or something,

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so I don't know, but you know, and so they're

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01:22:51,159 --> 01:22:53,159
using them. They're doing it so they can eat all

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01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:57,159
the rats. So the alligators and that the alligator problem

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01:22:57,239 --> 01:23:01,079
is a lot less dangerous than the rats.

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Speaker 7: So maybe we have one of those alligators at the

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01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,279
city Reliquary where I work, the little museum that I work.

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01:23:12,199 --> 01:23:14,239
He's stuffed and he's on our ceiling.

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01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 13: Was the nightmare there you go?

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Speaker 7: I know that was.

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01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:20,520
Speaker 10: That was.

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01:23:21,119 --> 01:23:23,520
Speaker 7: I haven't seen him in a while, like months.

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01:23:26,399 --> 01:23:28,079
Speaker 10: I think that's going to give me a nightmare.

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01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,520
Speaker 7: It's Florida. It's giving me nightmares.

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01:23:33,319 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 8: When I was down there, I did see one, but

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it was in kind of a kind of enclosed area.

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01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,600
Wasn't It was actually on on on the grounds of

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01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:46,279
a hospital, like a VA hospital, and they had a

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01:23:46,319 --> 01:23:50,520
little man made pond for him. This guy was big.

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01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,560
I was at I was at a very safe distance,

1217
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,239
and I was like, it was big, like and it's

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01:23:57,239 --> 01:23:59,600
just kind of sitting near and like, and people are

1219
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:00,359
okay with this.

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01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 7: No, we are not okay with this. Yeah, you don't

1221
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,920
know this. Down that way, there's a pond or a

1222
01:24:08,039 --> 01:24:10,479
man made lake or something in the middle of celebration

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01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:16,239
Florida and they have alligators in them. Just I am

1224
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,720
terrified of alligators.

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01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can understand that because they have the ultimate camouflage.

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01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 7: Well, and they're fast as hell.

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01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 10: And they do the death roll.

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01:24:31,399 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, make you coca yourself.

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01:24:34,079 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 7: I did hold a baby one though.

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01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:36,399
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:41,119
Speaker 6: All right, is that enough Florida for one night? Gosh, yeah,

1232
01:24:41,279 --> 01:24:43,279
I think we're good. All right, let's pull the plug

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01:24:43,359 --> 01:24:46,920
on this. Excellent selections across the board. I love it.

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01:24:47,039 --> 01:24:49,720
Two thirds trash in Florida, one third not so much,

1235
01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:53,359
one of the one third being fake, being fictional. So

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01:24:55,319 --> 01:24:57,640
that's what it took to not bash Florida. I guess

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01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,720
what can I say? All Right, thank you all for

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01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,560
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01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,279
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01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,840
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01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,880
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01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,520
be back next week with a whole other, brand new

1243
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,039
episode that I think is already in the works, so

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01:25:15,279 --> 01:25:17,840
hopefully you'll join us until then, have a great weekend

1245
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,439
and peace out, everybody, come a.

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01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 3: Rock cop bottomed drum.

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01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:27,520
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01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:34,000
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