WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.080 Joining us now is Barry Hinckley. He has an organization 2 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:09.560 and website Redeclaration redeclaration dot org, and he's talking about 3 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.720 a redeclaration of independence. So I don't that it'd be 4 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:15.679 good to have him on. We just had Donald Trump 5 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:19.760 is talking about rejoining Britain. As I guess we're going 6 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:23.480 to rejoin Britain, maybe we should talk about a red deeclaration. 7 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:25.920 It's a kind of appropriate timing. But you started this 8 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:29.559 quite some time ago. Tell us a little bit about it, Barry, welcome. 9 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:32.759 What's great to be with you. Duvide. We started this 10 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:35.799 in October of twenty three, and it's hard to think 11 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:38.520 now in March of twenty five, that seems like a 12 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:45.439 lifetime away. Many of us have been fighting for the 13 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:49.640 values that made this country the great meritocracy. It became 14 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:52.759 in the City on the Hill for many years. Then 15 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:55.880 I'm from New England. My great grandfather was actually the 16 00:00:55.880 --> 00:01:00.640 commander of the mint Men conquered Massachusetts, eighth grandfather, and 17 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:02.759 so I was born on April eighteenth, you know, the 18 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.040 day that prescotten Dawes and our vere road, my families 19 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:09.159 farm and conquered to alert them the British for coming. So, 20 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:12.480 you know, great day to be born on a significant 21 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:15.640 date in our history. So I've always been tuned into 22 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:20.120 the country and its founding values. And obviously, if you're 23 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.640 listening to this show, you know we've strayed a long 24 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.959 way from those founding values, you know, before the New Deal, 25 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:28.319 and certainly way after the New Deal with a massive 26 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:31.519 expansion of the federal government. So this was our attempt 27 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.400 to point out the simple fact that our federal government 28 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.159 is way out of design tolerance and it's gobbling up 29 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:41.879 our liberties and our freedoms that we are supposed to 30 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:44.799 enjoy in this republic. And that's why we laid down 31 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:49.599 these ten tenants of what we call the Redeclaration of 32 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:54.040 Independence to try to, you know, really persuade our elected 33 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:57.200 officials in Washington to represent we the people and not 34 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:58.719 the interests of the deep state. 35 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:03.319 Well, I agree, And of course they talked about how 36 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:07.319 the king had swarms of officers to harass our people 37 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.360 and to eat out their substance. I mean, they're going 38 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:13.080 off rank supply. Now, how do we get these people's attention? 39 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.000 What is it that? What approach are we going to take? 40 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:20.080 Why did you take this approach as a matter of fact, 41 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:24.039 and what are you hoping to accomplish with redeclaration dot org. 42 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.960 Well, if you go to redeclaration dot org and you 43 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.400 read the ten tenants, you know we've actually been quite surprised. 44 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:34.120 Now we laid these tenants down. In October of twenty three, 45 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:38.800 about twenty two hundred people signed the Redeclaration of Independence, 46 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:43.400 about seventeen hundred of which of whom agreed to have 47 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.280 their names posted publicly. As you sign, your name gets 48 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:51.039 posted publicly once we verify your real on the website. 49 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:55.599 About five hundred we're so afraid of just having their 50 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:59.000 name associated with the founding values that they wanted to 51 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:01.439 be anonymous and tells you everything you need to know. 52 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:03.479 If you live in supposedly the freest country of the 53 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:06.719 world and you're afraid to post your name publicly for 54 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:09.879 fear of retribution by the former administration, thankfully, we're saying 55 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.879 the former administration, that tells you everything you need to know. 56 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:16.000 So our goal was, you know, to do the same 57 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.159 thing that the first centers of the declaration did, which 58 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:25.199 is to put your name on the dotted line and 59 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:28.680 sign for values that we believe will get this country 60 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:32.120 back on track. And we did that after Actually I 61 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.800 wrote I wrote it after a very inspiring speech I 62 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:40.120 heard Tucker Carlson give at ISI and Wilmington, Delaware in 63 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:43.080 October of I encourage all your listeners to look that 64 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:46.159 speech up at the inter Scholastic Institute. Tucker gave the 65 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.879 first speech he gave after coming out of his retirement, 66 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:53.560 before he launched the Tucker Carlson Network. And we, me 67 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.280 and a few guys, friends, compatriots wrote this down and 68 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.400 the goal was to get as many people people as 69 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.439 possible to sign on the dog line and then inspire 70 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:08.240 our elected officials to take these tenants to Washington and 71 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.439 see if we can reverse the course of the federal government, 72 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:13.080 you know, eating our liberties alive. 73 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:16.560 Well, I agree, I agree. There were no anonymous signers 74 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:19.439 of the decoration from the pennants. Nobody put down a 75 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:21.759 non or anonymous or anything. As a matter of fact, 76 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:25.199 John Hancock became famous for writing his name so large. 77 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.199 He had probably the most to lose. He's one of 78 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.360 the wealthiest people in the US at the time. And 79 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.759 of course it wasn't the US but the colonies or 80 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:36.800 whatever you want to call it at the time, and 81 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.480 he wrote his name as big as he possibly could, 82 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:41.319 and so it became something of a legend to put 83 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.560 your John Hancock on something. But people are afraid to 84 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.639 put their John Hancock on a redeclaration. And what does 85 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:50.199 that tell us? Tells us how intimidated everybody has become 86 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:54.959 by being branded a racist if they disagree with you 87 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.959 politically or whatever. You know, that is a standard tactic. 88 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:00.800 But again, you know, when we look at the and 89 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.519 we go back into history, it was I looked up 90 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:06.920 the date. It was common Sense by Thomas Pain. Came 91 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:10.120 out January the tenth of seventeen seventy six. Of course, 92 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:12.920 it was July fourth that the Decoration of Independence was 93 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.439 put out there, so this was something that was percolating 94 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.480 through society. Now, of course, the Decoration of Independence was 95 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.279 written from the top down by the elites, but there 96 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:27.199 was also Thomas Pain's common Sense spread very very quickly 97 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:29.920 throughout the colonies. They had a very high literacy rate 98 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.759 and people ate it up eagerly, so there was a 99 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.720 grassroots of support there. So I guess my question to 100 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.720 you is, how do you see this developing? Do you 101 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:42.399 see this developing from the grassroots, the bottom up, or 102 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.639 is this something that is going to Is there anybody 103 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.120 that you can think of in Washington that is going 104 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:52.319 to be aligned with even these ten points that you 105 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:54.439 put in this shorter redeclaration. 106 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:59.160 Well, interestingly, we know that it got all the way 107 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.079 to the top. You know, I sent it to Tucker, 108 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:04.240 who I have developed a relationship with since writing this, 109 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.319 and they kept passed around to Levek and other people. 110 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.040 Robert F. Kennedy I sent to. I also know him 111 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:14.319 personally as well. Uh. And so we know these ten 112 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.879 tenants made it to the top. Uh. And if you 113 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:20.240 look at what's happened since we've written them and since 114 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:24.680 President Trump was sworn in in January, Uh, you know, 115 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.600 they're either getting talked about or they've come true. Like 116 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:30.279 you know, the ninth tenant, I think it's the eight 117 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.000 or ninth. Uh, you know, eliminated the Department of Education. 118 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:35.279 We kind of threw that one in there as really 119 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:39.160 wishful thinking. Well, sure enough, here we are the Department 120 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:42.000 of Education. You know, let's see, you know, how the 121 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:46.160 court system addresses this executive order. But you know Trump 122 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.600 has already taken action that way. He mentioned a balanced 123 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:50.920 budget in the State of the Union. We know we 124 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.399 have DEI out of the military, another one of our tenants. 125 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.480 He is pulling us out of the you know, these 126 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:01.680 globalist organizations, which is make making sure that Americans are 127 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:06.680 only subject to American law, not international law. He's already 128 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.560 taking steps through tariff to level the playing field for 129 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:15.000 American workers. You know, he has mentioned a single day 130 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:19.920 paper ballot voting. You know, our last request on that 131 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:23.319 tenant is to actually make Veterans Day have some real 132 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.360 impact and make Veterans Day voting day. Make it a 133 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:29.040 national holiday, so we can not only on our veterans, 134 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:30.600 but people have the day off and take the whole 135 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:32.519 day to vote, not have to try to scramble in 136 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.000 before or after work. So, you know, I think about 137 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:39.360 six or seven of them have already been addressed. You know, 138 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.720 a balanced budget amendment has not been addressed yet, but 139 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:45.680 has been talked about, as you know, in his State 140 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.199 of Union. So we've made an immense amount of progress 141 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:52.120 with these ten tenants since October of twenty three when 142 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:56.040 we publish them, and in fact, we're pleasantly surprised at 143 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:57.319 how much progress we've made. 144 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:02.399 Now you mentioned DEI and you mentioned RFK Junior about 145 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:04.120 this at the beginning of the program. I was talking 146 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:07.839 about the new CDC appointment that was put in by Trump, 147 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:11.439 who was first there was somebody who had been a 148 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:14.720 vaccine critic. He is a medical doctor who talked about 149 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:19.000 connections between autism and vaccines, but he was essentially vetoed 150 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:25.160 by a pharmaceutical senator, Republican Cassidy. And now Trump has 151 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:28.839 just announced as his nomination the person who is serving 152 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:34.080 as the interim CDC head, somebody who at the CDC. 153 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.519 We see that they have now purged DEI off of 154 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:40.200 their website, which is good. I'm glad that they're getting 155 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:43.960 DEI off. The problem is that they're still approving on 156 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:48.519 an emergency use basis more vaccines and still continuing on 157 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:51.440 with a childhood vaccine schedule. But do you see that 158 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:53.720 as a victory. What do you think is really happening 159 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.720 with RFK Junior, with HHS, with CDC, with Trump in 160 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:00.159 that area. 161 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.799 Well, you're talking about a trillion dollar plus agency, and 162 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:07.000 battleships don't turn on a dime. There's a lot of 163 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:12.039 work to be done, and there's a massively entrenched financial 164 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:16.720 and governmental institution enforcing the status quo. So it is 165 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:19.960 not going to be easy to get America healthy again. 166 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.480 To make America healthy again, RFK has many foes that 167 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.559 are highly paid to block his path. 168 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:31.080 But he said, but he's okay. As part of his 169 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.279 condition to get a pointed, he said, he's okay with 170 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:36.200 a vaccine schedule that's being put out there, and nobody 171 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:38.679 is banning, not at the state level, not at the 172 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:42.000 federal level. Nobody is banning these mRNA shots. As a 173 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:44.120 matter of fact, they're working to take it to the 174 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.519 next level. And the CDC director has been involved in 175 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:53.559 using artificial intelligence, just like Larry Ellison, who was featured 176 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.480 by Trump with the Stargate Project a day or so 177 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:58.919 after he became president, talking about how they would use 178 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:04.600 artificial intelligence to custom design genetic vaccines for people. You know, 179 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:07.600 I look at this and I see a massive poisoning 180 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.000 that is happening in our society, and yet we are 181 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.840 thinking that we've got victory when we just get tend 182 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:18.000 to stop talking about this gender insanity. I don't you know, 183 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.200 it seems to me like they're majoring in the miners, 184 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:21.879 if they're doing anything at all at this point. 185 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:25.200 Well, I'm just asked you to be patient because this 186 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:26.679 isn't a battle. This is a war. 187 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:29.480 Yeah, what is a war does? And it's been going 188 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.559 on for five years, this vaccine war, and I'm sick 189 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:36.000 and tired of seeing people die from this. Oh it's 190 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:38.759 been going on for decades, absolutely, But the Trump shots 191 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:40.840 have been going on for five years. And Trump is 192 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.279 still pushing this mRNA poison out on people. That's the 193 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:46.879 thing that concerns me about it. So I'm not as 194 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:49.320 salient as you are that there's going to be anybody 195 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.480 in Washington that's going to do this. I see this 196 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:55.320 as rearranging the deck chairs and trying to rebuild trust 197 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:59.080 and a government that cannot be trusted. We never had 198 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:03.799 the founders ever trusted government. Patrick Henry said, trust no 199 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.440 man bind them down with the chains of the constitution. 200 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:10.399 And yet this entire operation of RFK Junior and the 201 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.360 rest of them is about building blind trust and people 202 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.480 who've been murdering us for money. 203 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.960 Well, let me finish here. Two things they'll say to you, 204 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:23.320 I guarantee you r f K Junior is going to 205 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:25.919 do one thing and one thing well as it relates 206 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:29.960 to vaccines and taking on this massive pharmaceutical industrial complex. 207 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.240 He knows, you know, and even Trump alluded to this 208 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:37.159 in his State of Union address. When you talk about 209 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.039 one in thirty six kids have autism now and it 210 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.480 used to be one in ten thousand, Okay, point look 211 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:44.879 no farther than vaccines and poisonous food. Okay, So we're 212 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.440 zeroing in on the targets. But what RFK will do, 213 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:50.320 I promise you, is he will arm mothers and fathers 214 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:53.639 with information so they can make a decision to opt 215 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:56.480 out of these vaccines. That will be the first step. Okay, 216 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:58.440 And you know Rome wasn't built in today when you've 217 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:02.120 got five six decades of vaccin scenes and huge, massive, 218 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:06.080 multi billion dollar complexes, you know, pushing them down doctor's throats. 219 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.679 If you limit the ability for doctors to make money 220 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.200 on procedures, but you know, incentivize them to make money 221 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.120 on pumping kids pull of shots, guess what you're going 222 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:17.000 to get. That's going to take a long time to 223 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:18.919 unline that, and I believe that's what's going to happen. 224 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:21.480 It's going to be first wage with information, and that 225 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:24.840 information will arm voters and parents with what they need 226 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:27.480 to roll the stuff back and make our food, in 227 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.879 our in our medicine healthy again. 228 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:32.240 Well, I hope that's going to be the case. I 229 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:34.799 think that we've got enough information, quite frankly, and I 230 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:36.200 think what we need is common sense. 231 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:38.720 Yeah you might and I might, but not enough. 232 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:41.879 People do, right, I agree, But I don't think that 233 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.679 a savior in Washington is going to help us. I 234 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:46.320 think what we need is some common sense, and we 235 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.080 need a spirit of independence that is going to rise 236 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:51.279 up from the bottom, not from the top down. I 237 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:53.919 don't see these people when I see them going to Washington. 238 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:57.399 I see them going these confirmation hearings. They're literally selling 239 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:01.000 their soul. They are contradicting everything that they've talked about 240 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:04.200 for their entire life. They deny it in order to 241 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:06.559 get the position. And when you do that type of thing, 242 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:10.320 you don't have people of character that can lead this 243 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:14.200 country if they begin by denying what they have said 244 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:17.039 all of their life. I just don't see that happening. 245 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:20.879 But let's talk about the Department of Education. Now. This 246 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.759 executive order to get the Department of Education down, this 247 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.639 is something that I've not yet talked about today. But 248 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:30.519 what do you see changing at the Department of Education? 249 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:35.200 If they're going to continue funding from Washington, does it 250 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.679 matter that we have a bureaucracy up there. If they're 251 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:41.840 going to send the money, how do you view that 252 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:45.080 as a Is that a real shutdown of the Department 253 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.240 of Education if they're going to still provide the money. 254 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:55.759 Well, once again, you're talking about three almost three decades 255 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:58.320 worth of precedent. They have to get unwound. And it's 256 00:13:58.360 --> 00:13:59.519 not going to happen overnight. 257 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.960 So I mean they're shutting down those way, they're shutting 258 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.360 down spending it with DOGE overnight in some areas, right, 259 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:07.480 So I mean they could just say we're not going 260 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:10.639 to continue. When you look at four hundred million dollars 261 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.919 just to Columbia University, which Trump shut down because they 262 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.480 had protested Israeli politics. But why are they getting four 263 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:23.159 hundred million dollars? I think it's incredible. It's the money 264 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:26.039 that needs to stop, and it needs to stop just 265 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:28.240 because the government doesn't have the authority to do it. 266 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.080 We could have a balanced budget amendment, but you know, 267 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:32.799 how are we going to balance that budget if we're 268 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:36.000 going to be sending Ivy League colleges hundreds of millions 269 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:36.799 of dollars A year. 270 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:40.200 I don't understand you're not going to find an argument 271 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:43.000 for me there, and you're certainly not going to find 272 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:45.039 an argument for me that it makes a lot of 273 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:48.559 sense to send money from Ohio to Washington just to 274 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:50.320 get it back again, knowing that people are going to 275 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:52.600 clip q poms the entire way. You know, I say, 276 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:54.639 keep it in Ohio in the first place. You know, 277 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:56.559 I think if you follow what Trump's doing is talking 278 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.279 about eliminating income tax for people making less than one 279 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.519 hundred and fify thousan dollars. You know, the byline is 280 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:05.799 that money doesn't go to Washington and stays in the state. Right, 281 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.200 So certainly the remedy, in my opinion, is exactly the 282 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:11.639 design of the founders, which is, you know, in power 283 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.759 the states to control their own destiny, you know, within 284 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.919 the formation, the foundation of the formation of our republic. 285 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:24.840 So I think unwinding the Department of Education is not 286 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:27.639 once again an overnight task. You have to clip away 287 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.360 at it and eventually get rid of it because there 288 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:31.279 is going to be a massive amount of resistance. I 289 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.120 mean to keep in mind, the Department of Education is 290 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:37.720 often seen as the arbiter of elections because if you 291 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.240 have let's say, four million voters that are either employed 292 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:45.080 as teachers or related or married to a teacher, or 293 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:49.840 in some type of you know, administration role in the 294 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:52.879 public school system, and you have a country tied fifty 295 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:55.960 to fifty on elections. Those four million people decide who 296 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.360 becomes the president. So it's a very it's a sacred 297 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.360 cow for Democratic Party. They launder an immense amount of 298 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:05.320 money through union dues into their elections. Uh, they are 299 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:07.240 gonna they are not going to go down without a fight. 300 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:09.399 And I think, you know, it's the old old saying, 301 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:11.480 how do you eat an elephant? It's one bite at 302 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:14.440 a time. But you know, the Department of Education is 303 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.440 in our sites, and I mean the sites of true 304 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:23.519 Libertarians and Republicans, and I think we will grind it down, 305 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:25.360 but it's not going to happen overnight. But I agree 306 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.120 with you that you know the the you know, I 307 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:29.159 have I spent a ton of money for my daughter 308 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:32.080 to go to George Washington University in Washington, d c. 309 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:35.639 And it was a giant scamp. She learned more in 310 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:37.840 high school than she did in college. So it's a 311 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:39.080 very very good high school. 312 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.720 It wasn't fortunately for you. It's probably good she didn't 313 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:44.960 learn anything at George Washington, as they would have taught 314 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.399 her the wrong stuff. It's really it's really about Indoctrinasian 315 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:50.840 more than it is about education in so many ways, 316 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.039 as you're not wrong, yeah, as you know and so 317 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.200 not wrong. It's that's why the government wants to keep it. 318 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:57.759 It's foot in it, and that's why it wants to 319 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:01.960 control the purse strings because ultimately, both this government as 320 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:06.960 well as subsequent Democrat governments, Democrat run governments will set 321 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:09.799 the curriculum. If they can fund it, they will define 322 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:11.279 what it's going to be. But let's talk about some 323 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.119 of the ways that they're going to do this. For example, 324 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:19.039 we know that when they have shut down anything they've 325 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:23.039 shut down immediately, they've had lawsuits brought against them. And 326 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.279 so you talked about states rights and how we have 327 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:29.519 separation of powers, and I said state rights, I met 328 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:32.680 state powers, how we have a separation of powers and 329 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.599 checks and balances and that type of thing. But also 330 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.680 within the federal government. The big issue with all of 331 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:39.519 this stuff, and the thing that I think they're going 332 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:41.880 to have to address or they won't get anything done, 333 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:46.519 is going to be judicial supremacy if you can have judges, 334 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:49.119 and I know that they've talked about the fact that 335 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.839 we can't have one judge who's going to make policy 336 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:55.640 for the entire nation. But it is through that whole 337 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.480 judicial supremacy thing is going to have to be challenged. 338 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:02.160 Along the line is I think of what Andrew Jackson 339 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:04.279 did when he said, the Supreme Courts made their decision, 340 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.759 let's see them enforce it. I think if the Trump 341 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.920 administration doesn't do that, none of the actions that they 342 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.079 have taken are going to last. And I don't think 343 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:13.480 they're going to be able to do any of the 344 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:15.680 kind of cuts and restructuring that they would like to do. 345 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:17.480 What do you think about that? And do you think 346 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:25.400 that they will directly challenge judicial supremacy. 347 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.200 The Trump administration? Yeah, yeah, you think, yeah, of course. 348 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:28.119 I mean he's going to fight every step of the 349 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:30.440 way and when we need some precedent here, and I 350 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.400 think they pointed out that there's already been some presidents 351 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:35.240 said by the Supreme Court. But they're challenging, you know, 352 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:39.279 they meaning, you know, the judiciary, you know, liberal activist judges. 353 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:41.519 Let's be let's be real about what's going on here, 354 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:46.079 are ignoring the president and throwing down roadblocks. I think 355 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:48.960 many people understand what's really going on here is they're 356 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:52.519 trying to slow down the Trump train, and they feel 357 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:54.000 if they can bind this thing up in court. And 358 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.960 these are all derivatives from Yale Law School, uh, you know, 359 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.200 Harvard Law School and all the other massively liberal lead 360 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.119 law schools, they figure if they can slow the Trump 361 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:06.799 train down long enough and they can somehow, you know, 362 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.720 pull out some type of a coup and the midterms, 363 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:13.400 they can bind this thing up and Trump won't succeed 364 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:17.039 in right sizing a republic. I think that's the game 365 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.359 that's getting played here. And I think they're completely ignoring 366 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:22.920 what is precedent. They're completely ignoring the law, and they're 367 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:24.759 just trying to slow things down. Throw a wrench in it, 368 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:26.440 if you will. I think Trump's going to fight it 369 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:27.640 every step of the way, and he should. 370 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:29.920 Well, I don't know if you will, but you know, 371 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:31.480 we've seen some of that. I saw a little bit 372 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:34.240 of hope when you had a judge that said you 373 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.799 can't deport these criminals back to El Salvador, send them 374 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.480 to El Salvador, whatever, and they did it. Anyway, and 375 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.640 I thought, Okay, well, now that's what they need to do. 376 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:45.960 But then they came back and they said, but we're 377 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.119 doing this and staying within the orders of the judges 378 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:49.640 and that type of thing. So I still don't see 379 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:51.640 the fact that they really want to fight this. I know, 380 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.319 then the first administration you had Trump, who was opposed. 381 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:58.920 He ran opposing Dhaka. But when he got there, the 382 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:02.799 deferred action and tr arrivals, when he got there, that 383 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.680 was not even a law that was passed by Congress. 384 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:08.559 That was an executive order by the Obama administration, not 385 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:12.440 even by Obama so much as by Napolitano, who was 386 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:16.839 his attorney general. And he abided by that when you know, 387 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:19.440 he asked permission of the judiciary and they said, no, 388 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.640 you can't get rid of the previous executive order from 389 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:26.000 the previous administration. It was absolutely absurd. So I'm not 390 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:28.079 really sure that they're going to do that. I hope 391 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:30.799 that they do, And I think that when we talk 392 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:35.079 about how one branch is exercising supremacy over any other branch, 393 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:38.640 that is really a violation of the separation of powers. 394 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:40.119 As I'm sure you would agree, right. 395 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:44.400 Certainly agree you know, and as far as it relates 396 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:48.200 to Trump's first term, I think he admits he was 397 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:49.920 naive and he had a lot of the wrong people 398 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:52.400 around him. A lot of them were you know, swamp 399 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:55.359 creatures that you know, had an interest in the status quo. 400 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.720 And this time he's come in guns blazing. I'm quite 401 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:00.759