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your support. I want to read real quick. I'm going

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to get back to your calls here. I got a

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bunch of people on the line. We have a lot

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of text messages, and there's a lot of anger and

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there's a lot of grief today after the assassination of

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Charlie Kirk, a radio host, founder of Turning Point USA,

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who would go on to college campuses to have discussions

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and debates with people because he believed that talking is

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the way you prevent violence, because without talking through our

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issues and disagreements, then all that's left is violence. And

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if that's what's left, then we have no country. And

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for that he was murdered because that's where they murdered him.

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Constantin Kissin is the host of one of the hosts

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of Triggernometry. It's a podcast highly recommended, and he wrote

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that I hope I'm wrong, but tonight feels like some

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sort of invisible line has been crossed that we didn't

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even know was there. The last time I felt like

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this was nine to eleven, when it was clear, without

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knowing the how and the what, that the world was

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about to change forever, like the rules of the game

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had been permanently altered and there were simply no going

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back to the innocent, peaceful past. I didn't feel like

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this when an attempt was made on President Trump's life.

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If I had to rationalize why I didn't, I guess

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it's because several US presidents have been shot at and

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even assassinated. Somehow, it was within the realms of the possible,

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no matter how awful. But to murder a young father

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simply for doing debates and mobilizing young people to vote

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for a party that represents half of America, well that's

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something else. Charlie's death is a tragedy for his wife,

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his family, and his children. I don't pray often. I

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am praying for them tonight, but I fear his murder

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will be a tragedy for all of us in ways

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we will only understand as time unfolds. I hope I'm wrong,

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and I was asked to give the quote again. It

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was from Andrew Walker, ethics and public theology professor at

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Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, who said, political violence is the

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refuge of a losing political movement that cannot make good

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arguments or persuade naturally, so they.

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Speaker 1: Resort to power raw power.

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Speaker 2: To quote win, but their manner of victory is actually

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an admission of defeat that the ideas themselves cannot win.

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Charlie Kirk was the antithesis of this loser mentality, a

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happy warrior, persuasive, daring, and fearless. Let me go back now,

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hang on a second to do and pull this up here.

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Going back to the phone lines, I shall speak with Richard. Hello, Richard,

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welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how you doing all right? First of all, I'm

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an African American and I just want to you know,

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Chris kind of makes me sad, but I just want

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to tell Chris you know, as conservatives, we love you man.

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And the fact that Charlie Kirk was about the constitution

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of the Declaration of Independence and freedom the problem unfortunately

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for a lot of African AMers. He told me he

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was minord. I'm gonna assume he's Black. African Americans stole mine.

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Chris is a free man, but his mind is in

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bonded and the Democratic Party has taken full advantage of

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the historical pain of Black people to manipulate them and

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to keep themselves in power. And unfortunately, people like Chris

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free your mind, don't be close minded because all of

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his assertions are based on emotion and past historical pain.

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And this is what the Democrats historically since LBJ have

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been taking advantage of the Black community so they can

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maintain power. That wasn't my original foot but I had

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to get that out as a black man.

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Speaker 1: What was so?

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Speaker 2: What was your what was your original thought to And

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I think we I mean, look, I agree with you,

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and I agree with your assessment, and I think Chris's

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inability to formulate the argument when asked like, what is

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your evidence of this marginalization, and he literally had no

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answer for it. He has just been taught a script

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to follow, and people in that left wing echo chamber,

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they they just have these scripts.

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Speaker 1: They don't they don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't examine, they don't do deep dives and really

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try to formulate the why they believe what they believe.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just the.

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Speaker 4: What I believe that this is how Germany destroyed themselves

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because they were just following instead of opening their minds,

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and next thing you know, they're following with guys saying

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how Hitler. So my original point was the fact that

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why weren't there any drones up in the air, because

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after a Butler, you would think that this would be

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the standard op orational procedure when you have an open area,

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open air event with a high profile client, you have

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to have security in the air, because we just saw.

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Speaker 3: What happened in Butler.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm sorry, I'm not a security expert on

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retired law enforcement, but some of this stuff is common sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there.

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Speaker 2: I think the school had some personnel there, but like

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maybe a half a dozen. I want to say, Charlie

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Kirk had a security team as well. I think there

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was like four or five members there. So that was

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the entire security footprint, it seemed for this event.

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Speaker 4: And this doesn't seem adequate with the amount of people

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in the amount of space and the amount of buildings.

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Speaker 3: That somebody could take a shot at you.

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Speaker 4: Now, you know, listen, I'm not part of their security

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team the university, but I don't care whether it's Taylor

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Swift or Jalo whoever. You better get a drone up there,

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because somebody may take a shot at somebody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's a I think that's a

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fair point, Richard.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, sir, thanks for making it, Thanks

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for hanging on all right, take care.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Richard's right.

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Speaker 2: I think that there's going to be a reassessment and

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re examination of all security protocols for all events of

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that nature that are that, as he said, high profile

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figure the size of the crowd, and to simply rely

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on a college campus security force to plan and protect.

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I think people are going to be disabused of the

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of the current protocol as it stands. Next up here,

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let me go to I think this is Kevin Welcome

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to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hey Kevin, Hey there sad sad day to day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. My point was, like on Charlie Kurt, he is.

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Speaker 5: The couple of callers ago.

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Speaker 6: Apparently that fellow didn't was a name, Chris, I think. Yeah,

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he clearly hadn't looked at any of Charlie's videos because

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he was you know that Charlie defended the minorities. It

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was it was amazing how how much he like was

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brought out before he would let people speak. And that

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was the big thing with Charlie his he continued his dialogues.

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If we we don't continue dialogue, unfortunately, what it's going

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to do, we're letting his death be in vain. I mean,

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he he died for his cause, and it's if we

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continue the dialogue, we honor him. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I do. I agree.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the answer is to retreat back into

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silence or something and to be cowed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Another thing is what I was thinking was we're not

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You're not ever going to convince someone who's far left

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to change anything. But some of these events can really

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reach people's hearts that are maybe in the middle. I

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think that's key. So responding was you quoted earlier in

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the scripture that is keep conquering evil with the good.

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That's so critical. I mean, I would put Charlie up

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there with Martin Luther King JFK. They were revolutionaries, but

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revolutionaries not with violence, with words and reached people's hearts.

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Speaker 1: All right, Kevin, I appreciate it. Thanks for calling in.

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All right, take care.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing that I think a lot of people

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on the left are not realizing either, is that you've

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now martyred Charlie Kirk, and you have given young people

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a red pill. The size of the empire state building

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like you have radicalized a lot of people. They feel

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like their friend was just murdered. So when I was

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a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's, and before he died,

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he got worse. Forty years ago, there were no treatments

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and not much support for caregivers and family. But things

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are different today because of the work of so many people,

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including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's organization with

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's go on to the back to the phones.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, it's my old friend Shawn. Hello, Sean, welcome

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to the program.

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Speaker 7: Get afternoon, man.

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Speaker 1: You're happy today.

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Speaker 7: I'm not happy for nobody, Okay, but let me get

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since you made that appointment, since you made that look

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on his look on his our pod one time one

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day he made that statement himself. Somebody trust him. You

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look at you look on his his his podcast, somebody

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asked him should somebody gets shot? And his comment was

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it people.

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Speaker 8: Still get shot.

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Speaker 1: He didn't say that. What he said now, that's not

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what he says. He was at.

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Speaker 2: The question was about the trade off of Second Amendment

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rights for zero gun deaths and his and what his

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response was that that is unfortunately one of the prices

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that we pay.

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Speaker 7: Well well for him to say that, that's that's not

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good way to say.

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Speaker 1: So he what do you mean that's not that?

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Speaker 2: That is because this is here's the thing, No, Sean,

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here's the thing, Like if you're like the premise of

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and this is the debate that's happening now among people

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on the left, they're saying, oh, gun control, gun control,

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I am not going to give up my guns when

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people are trying to kill me for my political beliefs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it's not a winning argument on that front.

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Speaker 2: And that was what that's what his point was was

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because it is the evil in the people, and so

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you cannot take up all of the firearms. If you

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attempt to take them all, then evil people still will

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be able to get some, and then you are at

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their mercy. So you need to be able to defend yourself.

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And and unfortunately, there will always be evil. So therefore

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there will always be people who use firearms to murder others.

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But the answer is not to give up the guns.

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Speaker 7: Unfortunate that's happened to him. So let me make Mama comedy.

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Another reason I didn't know the person Gorid. I didn't

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even look at that part to that everybody sought did

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another thing he had?

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Speaker 2: What So how do you know? So can I ask you?

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I'll let you answer your question. But how do you

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know what he what his positions were? If you didn't

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know of the guy until.

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Speaker 7: Because I looked I looked on his applot, I'm giving

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you another position. What he said about first Lady Michelle Obama,

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he the first lay the first action Supreme Justice. He

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said they got they got their way because the Firman action.

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He didn't even finish college, so he didn't even make

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a comment. He didn't finish college. Are you gonna comment

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about somebody in the first lady, do you.

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Speaker 1: Think finishing college?

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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think finishing college is an

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indication of one's intelligence.

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Speaker 7: That's not I'm not saying that. Okay made that comment.

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I wouldn't have made that comment.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't Okay, So how does the how does the

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how does the fact that he and by the way,

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he didn't go to college because he was building Turning

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Point USA. He decided at the time he had a choice,

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do I go to college and then put all of

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this Turning Point USA stuff onto the shelf and not

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pursue it, or does he focus on building the business?

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And the advice that he got was, hey, you can

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always go back to college, but you're you've got something

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right now that you're building, so keep building that. So

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it wasn't that he was stupid and he couldn't get

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into college. I'm Sean. I didn't say you, Sean. I

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did not say you said that. I was pointing out

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that was the reason why he opted not to go

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to college was because he was building Turning Point.

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Speaker 7: Where he was going to all of these I got

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one more comment when he was going on.

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Speaker 2: What is but hang on, Sean, what does what does

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his not going to college have to do with his

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comments about Michelle Obama?

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Speaker 7: Because you're telling you, you're talking to an African American

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person saying that the first lady Daha Rod and to

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Nail Jackson got it right, called the permanent accent. And

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you know the reason why from Ashton was there to

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all your white people? Know why from Action was there?

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Were you explained to your white folks?

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Speaker 2: Then okay, white Sean, Sean, at the risk of at

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the risk of projecting upon every single white person a

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similar understanding of all things, because that would be racist.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure what you mean to say, most like.

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Speaker 7: They don't understand a permanent accent.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, they do. No.

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Speaker 2: The audience in the audience of talk radio generally speaking

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present company, notwithstanding, they understand what affirmative action was originally

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designed to do. And we also know and sewn and

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we also understand what it became. And the charge the

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allegation of affirmative action hiring for Katanji Brown Jackson was

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based on what Joe Biden said.

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Speaker 7: Well, well you you, but do you want to put

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somebody in regaldless to what he said, you want to

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put African Americania. It could be whatever, but that's the

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person he chose. It could have been a Korean person,

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but at that particular time, that's what he's thought.

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Speaker 2: And then my last boy, no, no, no, hang on, no,

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I'm not going to let you move off of this.

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Speaker 1: I'm hang on, I'm not going to let you move

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off this so soon.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, the the fact that Joe Biden said, I

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promised to appoint a black female to the Supreme Court?

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Do you believe that that is Do you believe that

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that is essential? Do you believe that that is setting

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a racial quota?

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Speaker 7: If she was satisfied? Know why he put that in there?

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Should said a female? If he was, maybe he put

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that in there.

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Speaker 2: But but why then set why.

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Speaker 1: Set the quota? Why make the promise?

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Speaker 7: I canna read his mind.

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Speaker 2: You gotta ask no, you know why? Come on, Sean,

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you know why a politician would say that, a Democrat

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would say that.

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Speaker 1: You know why?

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Speaker 7: You know why? Do you know why he put the

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other three on that down? You know reason why Donald

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Trump put the other three on there that he got

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on there?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Because okay, then we both agree and then my last one.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, we both agree about.

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Speaker 7: What about the reason why he got this three on

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there and the one that he suggested that should be

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on there.

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Speaker 2: Well you haven't said, well, you haven't said why you

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believe Trump made the appointment hemate, So what why do

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you think?

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Speaker 7: Then? Well, the three that whatever he uh that he

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he want to approve. But like what's going on there?

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Everything he runs up there to the Supreme Court, it's

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always leaning to it and not all of the majority

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of it. And that's bad for the country, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, right, So he appointed people based on a judicial philosophy.

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Speaker 1: No, that's what they're determining.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's exactly what they're Well, they determined it based

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on their judicial philosophy, Sean. So yes, he appointed people

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based on their judicial philosophy, and that that philosophy was

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recommended to him by the Federalist Society folks. So because

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they vet all of these candidates and such and they

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rank them and say, these people are originalists in their

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judicial philosophy, and so that's why he picked it. But

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he didn't pick them based on race. No, I know, so,

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but that's the difference. No, No, I know, you did it, Sean.

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But I'm saying he didn't do it for that. He

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didn't do it for He did not set up a

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racial hiring quota for his picks. He did it based

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on what they think about things. And that is not

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what Joe Biden did. Joe Biden said, I'm picking a

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black woman. That's who I'm going to be picking. Vote

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for me, and that was the promise. That's why he

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said it, and it helped to win the election for him,

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terms Limited timeoffer. Brian, Welcome to the show. Hello Brian, Hey,

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how you doing me? I'm good? Am I on your

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speakerphone again? U? Yeah, yeah, this is always the case

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with you, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Come on.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, drift so no, I got you.

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Speaker 8: But but yeah, I wanted to find out why they're

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using these terms like a fascinate and a political murder.

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Speaker 7: For this young man, which is tragic.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's a young man of course and had

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a young family, so it's tragic all the way around.

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But this wasn't a political figure.

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Speaker 7: He didn't hold office or anything, did he.

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Speaker 2: Uh no, he did not hold office. But do you

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think he's not a political figure?

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Speaker 7: No? No, I don't you know. He's not hold he's

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not holding office.

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Speaker 2: He ran for any Well that's that would hang on,

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that would be a that would be a politician.

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Speaker 1: He's not a politician.

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Speaker 7: No, no, No.

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Speaker 8: What I'm saying is that, well, politicians are political correct.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but but political figures are not necessarily politicians.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so every murder can be political, then INVESTI case.

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Speaker 2: Not if they weren't involved, Not if they weren't involved

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in politics. I'm sorry, not if they weren't involved in politics.

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He led, he led Turning Point Us and Ryan Bryan

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he led, he led Turning Point Us A which was

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a mobilization organization for young voters.

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Speaker 8: What is what is that a conservative outfit or something?

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Speaker 1: I never said, yes that what guy is?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so so so therefore that's a white ring, I mean,

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a right wing kind of an organization that he was

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leading or something like that. But listen, basically what it

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boils down to.

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Speaker 7: Was white and white crime. That's that's basically what.

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Speaker 1: It all was down How do you know the shooter

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was white?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know what, that is a good question that

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that is that is an assumption because of the on

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the Utah campus, I'm pretty much and the guy just

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they said that the guy and your youth cat was

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saying that the guy kind of escaped in the crowd

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from the black man out there with all those white folks.

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Somebody would have seen it. Somebody would have seen it.

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So is it then assumption on my part?

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Speaker 2: It definitely is an assumption on your I don't know

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what the race of the shooter is, but you or

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your your complaint, your complaint, it seems sort of like

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you want to minimize this by calling it just a

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white on white crime or something. Why would you, I mean,

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correct me if I'm wrong, or it seems like you're

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trying to minimize it.

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Speaker 8: No, that's how you just took it.

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Speaker 7: That's just the fact.

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Speaker 2: That is how I took it. That's why I'm asking

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if that's how you intended it.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no, I didn't. I know. I'm

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just stating, like a statistic is a fact. I mean,

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why don't white crime happens all the time?

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Speaker 8: It's just not publicized in the news media right as suck.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean white, white on white crime. If it's

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a crime story, it moves in the media. There's no

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doubt about that. And most most crime occurs white on white,

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black on black, Hispanic on Hispanic. That's the vast majority

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of crime. It's all intraracial crime.

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Speaker 8: Right right, right, So why why there's a lot of

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guys out here that are murdered that are Hispanic black whatever?

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You know what I'm saying, And they got political views.

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They talk about that political views on social.

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Speaker 7: Media and everything else.

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Speaker 8: But they're not computed the political.

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Speaker 1: Murders, right because they're not leading.

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Speaker 2: They're not leading the largest uh youth mobilization effort in America.

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They're not doing political rallies, they're not doing campaign rallies,

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they're not appearing with politicians. I don't so again, like Bran,

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I'm trying to understand, like what the purpose of the call,

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Like if you're taking you're taking issue with the use

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of the term assassination, the word assassination.

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Speaker 7: I mean, no, I'm talking about political murder. It's like

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it's like that.

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Speaker 8: I mean that not to be disparaging or not. But

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but the guy wasn't He's not John F. Kennedy, you know,

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he's not Martin Luther King, He's not uh, you know, any.

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Speaker 7: Of those those term of type of people. He's he's

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leading the organization, a white wing organization, uh that goes

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on campus and speaking and so.

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Speaker 8: But but to call it a political murder, you.

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Speaker 1: Know it is.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that that's over the top.

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Speaker 1: Why did so what?

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Speaker 2: Why but why does this why does this motivate you

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to call a radio show to complain about the use

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of the term a political murder, which I don't think

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I've actually used the term.

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Speaker 1: I called it an assassination.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure who's using the term political murder really,

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I mean.

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Speaker 7: Because it's like those terms you know people use terms.

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Speaker 8: Now that uh that uh that are terms that are

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ship for different.

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Speaker 7: Occasions or for specific occasions, but now people just stew

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them all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you don't like the fact that the term

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assassination is used to describe the murder of Martin Luther

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King Junior, a private citizen who was engaged in political activity,

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And you don't like the use of that term being

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used for for Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, to bet not politicians. Neither was King

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at all.

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Speaker 1: Neither was neither was doctor King.

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Speaker 7: You have you listen, you have political use and you

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have a platform, right, uh huh right, so somebody so

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so so somebody would come at God forbid uh to

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take your life or what have you?

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Speaker 5: Would you would you would.

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Speaker 7: You think that will get political murder.

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Speaker 2: A political So like you're you're first off, Sean, you're

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using you're using a term political murder. The term that

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I have not heard anybody use until you just called

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in and used it. Okay, I don't know what political

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murder is. Now this is this is this has been

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called an assassination, a political assassination.

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Speaker 7: That's that's been what's said on w b D all

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day to day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have not heard it. I've been listening. I

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haven't heard the term. But I don't understand why.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why this is the thing that's tripping

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your trigger. Why are you so upset?

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Speaker 2: Because if somebody showed up right now on scene where

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I am and killed me for being who I am

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and doing what I do and saying what I say,

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then yes I would fall into that same category.

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Speaker 1: Sean. Yeah, but but listen, I want to you want

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to know.

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Speaker 2: What an assassination is. I'm going to give you the

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definition real quick. It is the Okay, tell all right,

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what is it?

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Speaker 1: Tell me?

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Speaker 7: Assassination is that the murder of uh someone over political,

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political views or political stances or religious No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's not an assassination, Sean. An assassination is

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quote the murder of a public figure by surprise attack.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but guess based on politics.

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Speaker 2: Or that's why people put the term political assassination because

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it was politically motivated, politically driven.

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Speaker 1: There's no other reason, No, Sean, there is no other reason.

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There is no other reason to go to that campus.

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Lay in wait, do you understand? Do you know? Do

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you know what the circumstances are, what they've read? No?

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Speaker 2: No, I do I know some of the details. Now

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I know, Sean, I do know some of the details. Sean,

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you do not, So do you are you aware of?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Sean?

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Speaker 2: All right, you're you're you're getting to be a bit

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hysterical and just screaming and shouting as you normally do.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, that's Brian.

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Speaker 2: You're getting a bit hysterical and you're shouting and screaming

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because I think you don't want me to make the

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point that you know I'm about to make, which is

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that you don't go to a venue like the venue

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we saw at the college campus for a free speech

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debate hosted by Charlie Kirk, who is known for these events,

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specifically for these events, And you don't climb on top

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of a building, procure yourself a bolt action rifle, car

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of a bunch of anti fascism slogans and transgender slogans

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into the AMMO. Shoot the man as he's taken a

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question about transgenderism, murder him and then escape. That is

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an assassination. There is no other reason to do that

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but for his public figure stature, which is based on

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his politics. That's why he's famous.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's why he's famous.

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Speaker 2: So you can try, like I would recommend Brian that

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you try to figure out a better argument to channel

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right now, because that argument is probably the dumbest one

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I've heard. All Right, you hear me talk a lot

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about incentives, right, Well, let's talk about incentive trips, the

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kind that companies offer employees to fire them up and

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work somewhere that offers these incentive trips, first off, good

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for you. But also there is a custom app that's

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built into a single, easy to use app. There's even

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a traveler locator, so Carl from Accounting doesn't get left behind.

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The best part about Incentive Tripkit it's totally private, no

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Speaker 1: So think about it.

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Speaker 2: When you launch next year's incentive trip campaign, that video

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becomes your greatest motivator. Talk about a return on investment. Right,

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Visit incentive tripkit dot com because great trips deserve even

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better returns A message from Kevin who says, Pete, your

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debate skills are so badass you couldn't pay me to

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debate you on air.

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Speaker 1: Love your show, Have a great day. Thank you, Kevin,

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I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Brian says Chris Caller Chris from Last Hour just another

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leftist that screams victim and points fingers.

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Speaker 1: He kept s saying taken away his rights.

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Speaker 2: And Charlie Kirk would always ask in his debates, what

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can't a black person do that I can do? And

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no one ever had an answer. Chris's argument is that

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if your feelings are hurt and you feel that you're marginalized,

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then I guess it's okay and understandable. If somebody snaps

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and kills someone who disagrees with him. This is the

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dumbest logic and quite frankly, what has gotten our country

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into the mess that we're in right now. It is

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the same when the mayor of Charlotte comes out and

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tries to be understanding of a crazy man murdering a

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person on the light rail because he's got a mental problem,

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as if, okay, do you have a mental problem, Well,

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it's understandable if you killed somebody. We must understand that

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you feel marginalized and it's our fault. We failed you

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because you have a mental issue. We need to do

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away with leaders with this type of logic. JT says,

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with all due respect, I disagree, Pete. Chris and his

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kind don't really believe they're part of the problem. They're

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not part of the problem. Their express intent is to

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be a problem. And Alice says, ain't it something the

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side that wants to ban guns shoot the Second Amendment? Folks, Yes,

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I have noticed that as well. Ray, welcome to the show. Hey, Ray,

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I have about a minute.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'll make it quick. I won't repeat what's already

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been said everything I can think of about commenting about Chris,

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but I will answer his question that he asks is

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what this country has done for him? And I would

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say two things in eighteen middle eighteen sixties, over half

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a million of mostly what people died for his rights

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and the Emancipation Proclamation.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a fair point, Ray, I appreciate the call.

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It's true too. Yeah, it's amazing how how far a

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little bit of gratitude goes in your personal life, you know,

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and when you try to step back and look at

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things in a more nuanced and recognizing the complexities and

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the different time periods that people were in there. Yeah,

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I'm not going to litigate the issue of slavery. It's

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just pointless right now. But yeah, there are people that

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just perceive themselves as victims all the time, and that

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is where they will remain. All right, that'll do it

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for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I

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could not do the show without your support and the

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone,