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<v Speaker 1>Uh, what's up, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Cecily here with Stephanie for a special whatever we're

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<v Speaker 2>calling the show, it's our show. It's really you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what you're listening to. And today we're targeting.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll not target we're honing in, rezooming in on some

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<v Speaker 2>legal battles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're not trying to target anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>We're nice people.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not like that. We're just we're just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>keep you up to date on stuff. Like sometimes we

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<v Speaker 3>come across news stories are well come across as if

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<v Speaker 3>we're just minding our own business and like somebody shouts

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<v Speaker 3>some gossip about us. No, of course we're looking for it,

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<v Speaker 3>we're digging for it. But sometimes you come across a

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<v Speaker 3>story and you're like, oh, I got to get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but before we get into it, can I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you? Sometimes I trick Stephanie because I don't tell

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<v Speaker 2>her I'm going to say this because she can't be

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<v Speaker 2>like no, but she probably would have said no otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>But can I just really quick tell you about my

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<v Speaker 2>dream the other day? I did put it on thread,

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<v Speaker 2>so you might have seen it, but I have to

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<v Speaker 2>tell someone.

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<v Speaker 3>No one has to do with Matt Dylan.

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<v Speaker 2>But go on, okay, I dreamt, do you remember in Singles,

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<v Speaker 2>the movie Singles, when they had the band Matt Dylan

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<v Speaker 2>had a band called Citizen Dick. He had a band

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie Singles called Citizen Dick. So I dreamt

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<v Speaker 2>that I went to go see the band Citizen Dick,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not a real band. It's in the movie Singles,

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<v Speaker 2>and Matt Dylan's the lead, and nobody was really.

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<v Speaker 1>At the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So he and I ran off together like yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to save you kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>We ended up at the Ritz Hotel. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>you to know this. At the Ritz, and we were

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<v Speaker 2>about to make out like it was getting sexy. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I just got to go brush my teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be right back, And so then I hear I'm

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<v Speaker 2>reading off the thing I just joked out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, hey, I invited a bunch of investors to

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<v Speaker 2>help you get your cereal business off the ground, because

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<v Speaker 2>I had decided that he was going to sell like cereal,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, the cocoa puffs. And then he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not into this anymore. And then he left and

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up. So I just want you to know

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<v Speaker 2>that even in my dreams, I fuck things up. Even

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<v Speaker 2>in my dreams, I make things so weird that should

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<v Speaker 2>have been like sexy, Like that should have been a

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<v Speaker 2>sexy dream. I'm hooking up with Matt Dillon from Peak

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety whatever, and I fuck it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I make a joke in my dream and then it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that? Could you please tell me? So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to go to therapy for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think therapy for that would be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>So I can't like I should go to like a

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<v Speaker 3>dream analyst. No, I don't know. Maybe you were because

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<v Speaker 3>I think, okay, but I had to analyze the dream,

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<v Speaker 3>which I do and you do. Yeah, I would say

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<v Speaker 3>that you were trying to be funny. You were kind

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<v Speaker 3>of being yeah, like you're like being but like quirky

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<v Speaker 3>and funny. And he didn't get it, and that was y.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he didn't get it here, he was just not

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<v Speaker 2>in the mood. Maybe he got it, but he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not that interested in this woman. She just happened

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<v Speaker 2>to come to my show, and now like I get

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<v Speaker 2>to have sex, but he's he doesn't want to have

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, but you do want to have a conversation, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you would have been like, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to just like have a crazy one night

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<v Speaker 3>er right as hot as you are, it's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be good. I'm gonna it's gonna I'm gonna feel weird.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like, I don't want to just then get

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck out, which is not cool of him.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't say it. He didn't say that. He just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just like he's kind of looked at me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I woke up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh no, some people. I wonder if people

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<v Speaker 2>really do have sex dreams. It's so rare that I do.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like here I am about to and it

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<v Speaker 2>was raining, so that's kind of hot.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like raining.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside, there's water, it's sexy. We're going with the Ritz Hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I make some dumb joke and then dream

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<v Speaker 2>over a fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do believe that's on him, Like, I'm I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right, that's fair, that's a fair way

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<v Speaker 2>to look at it. I've just been having the most

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<v Speaker 2>most bizarre dreams, but that one was like, where did

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<v Speaker 2>citizen Dick even come from in my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>What now are you taking?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you taking these days to go to sleep?

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<v Speaker 2>Because just ambient, but same as I've always been taking.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't take magnesium. I don't add the other stuff

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<v Speaker 2>because I've tried some of that. I don't take a

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<v Speaker 2>what's the thing that everyone takes that's over the counter.

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<v Speaker 3>Melatonin?

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<v Speaker 2>Melotonin makes me insane. It makes me have very bad dreams.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was going to say that that could have

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<v Speaker 3>that could cause some vivid dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just normal rems Cecily Rem sleeps a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about myself in the third person.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, okay, tell us about Selena Gomez.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I came across this article about our girl Selena. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm on a we like by the way I

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<v Speaker 2>should say, I mean, I'm a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's cool. I like her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's got some issues. She's got some mental health

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<v Speaker 3>stuff going on. She's bipolar, which buck who isn't these days?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. Yeah, I know everyone's got something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know she's been she's been through some stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But it turns out that you know who's really got

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<v Speaker 3>some stuff is her mom, which I didn't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think and I relate to this story in some

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<v Speaker 3>ways because to me, and this is how I interpret it,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like a story about her just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of take care of her mom, but like it's

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<v Speaker 3>one of those no good deed goes unpunished kind of things, like.

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<v Speaker 1>A Jen Aniston situation with her mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Like no, because she's trying to help her mom. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So basically I'm going to read you the beginning. This

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<v Speaker 3>is there's this great article in the cut that I

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<v Speaker 3>read the whole thing, but very long, Okay, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just going to try to tell you what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So Selena Gomez and her mother, whose name is Mandy TEEFI,

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<v Speaker 3>are being sued for fraud by investors in their mental

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<v Speaker 3>health startup. So there is some irony going on here

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<v Speaker 3>because the mom is having some mental health issues. But

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<v Speaker 3>they've started They're doing a mental health startup called Wondermind. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is according to a complaint filed in federal

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<v Speaker 3>court in Delaware. This is recent. This is a big story, Okay. Gomez,

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<v Speaker 3>Tefee and their former business partner, Daniella Pearson. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>this is what the lawsuit is saying, just want you

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<v Speaker 3>to know ahead of time that Danielle Pearson is like,

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<v Speaker 3>peace out of this whole organization already. She's like the

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<v Speaker 3>crazies on the wall. I'm out of here. You guys,

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<v Speaker 3>do you you guys? Do you boo? But the lawsuit

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<v Speaker 3>is by the investors who gave them all this money.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're saying that they falsely represented the company to

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<v Speaker 3>two groups who they claim invested almost one point two

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<v Speaker 3>million in the company. The plaintiffs said they only became

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<v Speaker 3>aware of problems at Wondermind following the Cuts report last year.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Cut was reporting on this. Uh gomas Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So they're being sued that part doesn't really matter. What

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<v Speaker 3>matters is what was going on at this company. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get to it. So hold on what

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<v Speaker 3>happened at Wondermind. Uh oh okay, So I have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to that article It makes you sign up for

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<v Speaker 2>Wondermind in order to find out what happened. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to join a prescription subscription subscription. Okay, Well that guy's

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so this is like a this is like a

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<v Speaker 2>whole long story.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Basically, the let's see. On Thursday September twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 3>Mandy Tefi started sending a startling series of texts to

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<v Speaker 3>a group of her employees. Tife had co founded the

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<v Speaker 3>company almost two years before with her famous daughter, So

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<v Speaker 3>now understand that Selena Gomez has not really been a

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<v Speaker 3>part of things. So I really think she started the

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<v Speaker 3>company and was like, mom, here you go, stay out

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<v Speaker 3>of trouble, and her mom could not do that because

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<v Speaker 3>let's see, hey, hold on, so she was in. They

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<v Speaker 3>were able to figure out. The employees were able to

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<v Speaker 3>deduce that Tifi, that's the mom was in the LA office,

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<v Speaker 3>a small suite above an art gallery at the corner

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<v Speaker 3>of Melrose and Harper. You know where that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she sometimes right by the improv.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the mom was sleeping in the office and

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<v Speaker 3>she was texting everybody she believed she'd seen an intruder

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<v Speaker 3>on the security footage. The first sentence was especially difficult

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<v Speaker 3>to make out. There is someone drilling on the day

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<v Speaker 3>and told me to go to sleep on a whisper

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<v Speaker 3>through the ring. I've called the cops, but I'm scared,

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<v Speaker 3>an employee replied, alarmed. OMG, and she wrote back I'm

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<v Speaker 3>fucking shaking, I answered him and said, I'm not going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said neither was he. The employee checked out

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<v Speaker 3>the office's ring cam remotely and said she did not

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<v Speaker 3>see anyone, So teefee responded, I'm watching footage. I can

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<v Speaker 3>hear him rustling under anyway, So all this stuff happened.

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<v Speaker 3>It turned out, I'm just gonna like, I'm gonna skip

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<v Speaker 3>skip through some of this. But basically she'd been she'd

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<v Speaker 3>been sleeping in the office, okay, going for days without bathing,

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't change her clothes, there's there's no shower in

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<v Speaker 3>the suite. There's all this like erratic behavior, angry outbursts.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I'm gonna I'm gonna try to scroll through this, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but blah, blah blah. She says she was treating it

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<v Speaker 3>like a refuge from the world and her home life,

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<v Speaker 3>where she could do whatever she wanted. Through the glass

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<v Speaker 3>walls of her office, employees saw her watching Shit's Creek

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<v Speaker 3>on a flat screen TV for hours at a time

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the workday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all of us, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I don't like, I don't care for

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, of course at work, That's all we do

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<v Speaker 2>is watch things all day on to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like surrounded by takeout boxes and packages from

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<v Speaker 3>luxury brands. She often ordered delivery food multiple times a day, McDonald's,

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<v Speaker 3>Crispy Kreme, Chinese Food, and several staffers say the boxes

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<v Speaker 3>tended to accumulate gathering flies. At one point, her parcels

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<v Speaker 3>of designer goods nearly filled a nearby room. And then

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<v Speaker 3>this is a quote, it wasn't oh I spent five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars on Amazon, when former stuffer explains it would

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<v Speaker 3>be like forty thousand dollars from Nieman Marcus.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Some employees say the scene was more grim. They

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<v Speaker 3>A rotation of nurses regularly came by to give Tfe

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<v Speaker 3>vitamin IV drips, not so uncommon for a wealthy Angelino,

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<v Speaker 3>nurse would arrive. Employees say, one who was quote missing

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<v Speaker 3>allergic reactions, while concierge clinics commonly offer IV drips. They're

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<v Speaker 3>basically saying, this is not what was going on, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Tfe told former staffer she needed the injections to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with allergies and the aftermath of severe covid and double

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<v Speaker 3>pneumonia in late twenty twenty one, which she described anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah. She was really really fucked up, always

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<v Speaker 3>like drowsy. And then her younger daughter, not Selena Gomez,

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<v Speaker 3>would come to the office. She had a young daughter, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>then some to some with knowledge of what happened that

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<v Speaker 3>September night, the benadryl helped explain TV's actions. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the man she claimed had entered the building seemed like

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<v Speaker 3>in the illusion. Okay, so basically Selena Gomez out of

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<v Speaker 3>the situation. This woman's gone pretty crazy. And then there's

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<v Speaker 3>all this stuff in this article, which I really highly

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<v Speaker 3>recommend reading about Selena Gomez is like struggle with her

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<v Speaker 3>mental health and basically and then getting lupus, and she

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<v Speaker 3>certainly can help cause depression and everything. I'm sure just

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<v Speaker 3>But I think also it can mentally kind of mess

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<v Speaker 3>with your mind. Well, she says she's been diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 3>bipolar but okay, yeah, I believe that anyway, she says.

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<v Speaker 3>She talked about how she told Rolling Stone magazine about

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<v Speaker 3>the rehab stays, and she says she described her anxiety

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<v Speaker 3>about sharing her story and said it was the right

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do because I have the platform I have.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like it was kind of like sacrificing myself

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<v Speaker 3>a little for the greater purpose. But then this article

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<v Speaker 3>played out a wondermind. Out of twenty nine former and

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<v Speaker 3>current employees, fourteen agreed to speak with me, most on

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<v Speaker 3>the condition of anonymity. According to dozens of conversations, the

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<v Speaker 3>company's grand mission and basic operations were tanked by Gomez's

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<v Speaker 3>and Tifee's personal and family dysfunction, including the denial of

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<v Speaker 3>tfee's instability. Okay, so then I'll say before we get

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<v Speaker 3>to just the lawyers, is basically that no one was

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<v Speaker 3>getting paid. Like this was a whole ass mess. And

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<v Speaker 3>I am going to say that I feel bad for

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, definitely it's not her fault.

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<v Speaker 3>The mom. Okay, you're gonna get this. The mom apparently

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<v Speaker 3>this was pretty jealous of Selena, like she really wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be an actress, and she was an actress, and

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<v Speaker 3>then she was basically being a momager of course of Gomez.

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<v Speaker 3>But then when Gomez got older and was like I

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, God, I mean that happens a lot. You hear

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<v Speaker 2>that with like you know, like like I said, the

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<v Speaker 2>Jen Anniston. You know, there's just a lot of mom

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now someone we have less well, Okay, Stephanie has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of wait are you done with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I could tell you just just that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really matter. But they're coming back swinging. You know, they've

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<v Speaker 3>got their lawyers and they're saying that, you know, the lawyers,

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<v Speaker 3>the lawyers for the investors are saying that the defendants

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<v Speaker 3>falsely represented details about the company and they were misled

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<v Speaker 3>to believe Wondermind had the infrastructure, leadership and resources necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, the Selena Gomez is basically going, fuck all, y'all,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't do any well. The lawyers, you know, right right,

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<v Speaker 3>and that they're we're defending Selena Gomez. They're saying she

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<v Speaker 3>did not in any way engage in any fraud or

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<v Speaker 3>any wrongdoing. It's meritless factually legally, but it doesn't sound good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, I'm going to tell you now, Stephanie has

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of sympathy, and I want to say, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why she's been writing letters to Nick Reiner.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's weird. I don't know why you love

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Reiner so much. I don't think that he's great,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're different like that, we have different opinions, right, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that he's very misunderstood. He's a personal friend

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<v Speaker 3>of mine and.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, I didn't know that that's so weird because

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<v Speaker 2>we did cover that a lot when Rob Reiner died,

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<v Speaker 2>and you never mentioned that you were friends with Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I feel very awkward now. Well, it didn't come

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<v Speaker 3>up at the beginning. We didn't know what happened, and

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't You didn't ask me like, hey, are you

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<v Speaker 3>friends with are you friends with Rob Reiner son? Like artist?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry or so?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Just so you guys know, he has been blocked

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<v Speaker 2>from getting his one point five million dollar trust because

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<v Speaker 2>there is something in the law already just baked into

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<v Speaker 2>the law called the slayer statute. Basically, if yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>you kill the people that were leaving you the trust,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the trust.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems pretty obvious, you would think, but it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe Nick Reiner. He's, by the way, very grumpy

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<v Speaker 2>about it. He does not like how this is turning out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I personally and I have sympathy for I even

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<v Speaker 2>have of course, I have sympathy for Perez. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he deserves whatever he's going through, no matter how

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<v Speaker 2>nasty he was to you know, Britney spears, I I

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely don't believe he deserves this.

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<v Speaker 1>But but Nick Reiner, I have less I feel nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the interesting it's it's interesting saying that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>something had to have happened to cause them to have

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<v Speaker 3>to make that law, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it obviously happens enough that they have to go, we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to put up on the books about this,

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<v Speaker 3>like that you can't kill the person you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get their money.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I kind of want to know what

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<v Speaker 1>that is. See, that's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>See if we had, if they gave us our own

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix show or we did this.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd have to look it up. They'd be like, could

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Go like kind of like this guy's point, go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and google before you do the show. It's a fair

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<v Speaker 2>thing to ask people that are podcasting. I suppose it's

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<v Speaker 2>not our show, but if we were on Netflix, they're like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the show's only forty two minutes, so you really can't

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<v Speaker 2>google the things that you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's have it ready, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh why, Okay, I'm going to look up with the

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<v Speaker 2>player's statute. Okay, I'm gonna turn my sound down when

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<v Speaker 2>we do that. Okay, Okay, I'm just going to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you this is a rule. The Slayer statute is a

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<v Speaker 2>legal doctrine in civil and probate law that bars a

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<v Speaker 2>person who intentionally kill someone for receiving any inheritance, trust distributions,

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<v Speaker 2>life insurance payouts, or financial Trying to figure out when

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<v Speaker 2>this began, because that is what your question was, let

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<v Speaker 2>me ask, So when did it go into effect?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what and why?

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<v Speaker 2>You would think that it would just be but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody had somebody had to try it. It says that

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<v Speaker 2>the modern slayer rule originated as a common law principle

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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen eighty nine. It's been around a long time

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<v Speaker 2>following the landmark court case which was called Riggs versus Palmer.

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<v Speaker 1>This was in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>In that case, a court ruled for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>that a grandson who poisoned his grandfather.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I told you there'd be a good story behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen eighty nine. I'm glad you asked that, because that

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<v Speaker 2>is very interesting. So that goes all the way back. See,

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<v Speaker 2>we can have a show. But then they've changed the

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<v Speaker 2>law a little bit. Throughout the twentieth century, individual states

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<v Speaker 2>have gradually turned this judicial rule into statutory laws known

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<v Speaker 2>as slayer statutes. I'm not sure how that makes it different.

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<v Speaker 2>But there you go. So this guy tried to poison

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<v Speaker 2>his grandpa and they're like, you don't get grandpa's farm.

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<v Speaker 2>Now interesting. Okay, So let's talk about Tyra Banks.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think it just naturally is the natural

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<v Speaker 3>progression of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's law, it's illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>She is trying to sue the fuck out of Netflix, which,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of Netflix, that is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's claiming okay, I'm going to read you a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. So she's suing Netflix for defamation and claims

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<v Speaker 3>she was manipulated into participating into Reality Check Inside America's

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<v Speaker 3>Next Top Model documentary. Now, oh yeah, they got her. Good,

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<v Speaker 3>they did get her, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now we watched that documentary with wide eyes. I

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<v Speaker 3>also listened to the whole podcast about it, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course I can't remember anything that happened, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>remember that they did. They didn't show her in the

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<v Speaker 3>most positive flight, but it wasn't. Also, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like they unfairly manipulated or edited footage, do you not?

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<v Speaker 3>At all?

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<v Speaker 2>She They based everything based on what she said. They

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<v Speaker 2>had her as a talking head. Then they showed old

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<v Speaker 2>clips of things that she was referring to. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really think I mean she got herself, yeah, Tyra Banks,

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<v Speaker 2>She's not supposed to be awesome. So yeah, and that

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<v Speaker 2>they had Miss j if they want, if she wants

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<v Speaker 2>to sue, she could sue iss Ja.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that would be a real low blow.

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<v Speaker 2>After you know, there was Jay Alexander was Jay Alexander, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>who had the stroke and went on.

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron was like, you know, I could walk for talk

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Tyra.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, as of press time, he hadn't had a visitation

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<v Speaker 2>from her, right, she had not sent anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that's just facts, like who are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sue boo?

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<v Speaker 3>So she says, I or her representative say. Tyra Banks

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<v Speaker 3>participated in the documentary because she believed viewers deserved a

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<v Speaker 3>candid conversation about the show's legacy, its successes and shortcomings.

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<v Speaker 3>There are aspects of the show for which Miss Banks

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<v Speaker 3>takes accountability, and she wanted A and TM viewers to

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<v Speaker 3>hear that from her directly. Okay, where's the problem. Going

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<v Speaker 3>into her interview, Miss Banks did not limit the America's

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<v Speaker 3>Next Top Model topics. The interviewer could ask the lawsuit continues.

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<v Speaker 3>During a three and a half hour interview, Miss Banks

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<v Speaker 3>answered questions about the show's groundbreaking history, including criticisms of

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<v Speaker 3>decisions she would approach differently today. Of that three hour interview,

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<v Speaker 3>the former supermodel claims only sixteen minutes of her talk

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<v Speaker 3>with producers was used in the final product, and that

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<v Speaker 3>the clips were clips that were used were stripped of

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<v Speaker 3>contexts and reassembled to support a false and defamatory narrative

421
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<v Speaker 3>unrelated to what she actually expressed, and that it was

422
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<v Speaker 3>sold to viewers as a documentary series. Netflix called it

423
00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:12.480
<v Speaker 3>the definitive must watch chronicle of a blah blah blah. Yeah,

424
00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:14.599
<v Speaker 3>so I guess she's saying it was things were taken

425
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<v Speaker 3>out of context.

426
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, sure, I guess that's possible.

427
00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:23.079
<v Speaker 2>But like a sue like roll, You're already do something good, right,

428
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<v Speaker 2>your Tira Banks start another show, sell a show, Let

429
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<v Speaker 2>something else.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Let me just tell you a couple of the details,

431
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<v Speaker 3>a couple of the things she really takes issue with. Okay.

432
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<v Speaker 3>While some of her comments were dismissed from the cleared edit,

433
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<v Speaker 3>Banks also seems to take issue with some of the

434
00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:45.079
<v Speaker 3>topics that were left that were left, namely former contestant

435
00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Shandy Sullivan's testimony from the show. In the docuseriies, Sullivan

436
00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:52.960
<v Speaker 3>claims she was sexually assaulted by a male model, which

437
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:57.440
<v Speaker 3>we all saw this part in it. Video from the

438
00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:00.559
<v Speaker 3>season showed Sullivan drinking wine and partying with the girls

439
00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:02.880
<v Speaker 3>and some of the other male models before climbing into

440
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:06.279
<v Speaker 3>bed with one of them. The former model told viewers

441
00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:09.200
<v Speaker 3>she was blacked out when this took place, but the

442
00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:14.039
<v Speaker 3>reality program framed the incident as a cheating scandal Sullivan

443
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.799
<v Speaker 3>had a boyfriend at the time, rather than alleged Okay. Basically,

444
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:21.599
<v Speaker 3>what they're saying here is that the show America's Next

445
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Top Model framed it as like she cheated on her boyfriend,

446
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 3>not in the way of like she was blacked out

447
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:32.200
<v Speaker 3>and couldn't consent and so in the But in the

448
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.599
<v Speaker 3>documentary they talked about the fact that you know she

449
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.720
<v Speaker 3>tried to I don't know, okay. In another clip, it

450
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:42.160
<v Speaker 3>shows Tyra Banks in a confessional admitting to knowing about

451
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<v Speaker 3>the alleged assault, but claims she was not involved in

452
00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:50.240
<v Speaker 3>production or editing of storylines, and the lawsuit goes on worse.

453
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<v Speaker 3>The false narrative the producers constructed through selective editing, deliberate omission,

454
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<v Speaker 3>and surgical manipulation of continuous footage, which included that ms

455
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:05.319
<v Speaker 3>Banks knowingly allowed a contestant to be sexually assaulted on

456
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:10.599
<v Speaker 3>her show, exploited that contestant's trauma for ratings, and then

457
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 3>could not even remember it when asked, Okay, oh, I'm

458
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:18.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna I'm going to fight back to that, saying, but

459
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.920
<v Speaker 3>that is they did show her. I mean, they're not

460
00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:24.359
<v Speaker 3>saying that she knew about it and didn't care, but

461
00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:28.039
<v Speaker 3>they're saying at the and Tyra Banks is basically saying, listen,

462
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:31.279
<v Speaker 3>the times were different, like they eat like stuff that

463
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<v Speaker 3>had to do with eating disorders, or the way they

464
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:36.119
<v Speaker 3>talked to the contestants. Like her thing is like, well

465
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:39.519
<v Speaker 3>times have changed, right, And I didn't know back then.

466
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<v Speaker 3>But they did show her saying it was like a

467
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.759
<v Speaker 3>cheating thing and asking her don't you feel bad about

468
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:47.039
<v Speaker 3>like cheating on your boyfriend?

469
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<v Speaker 2>She told They show her like sitting there talking to

470
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<v Speaker 2>her and being like really like aggressive kind of you know,

471
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<v Speaker 2>being very judgmental about it.

472
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yeah, that was the thing I mean, which is fine.

473
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even saying Tyra was even wrong in that

474
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<v Speaker 2>moment where they were wrong is filming someone who was

475
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:08.079
<v Speaker 2>almost blackout drunk after like flying, you know, bringing a

476
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 2>bunch of ashol, a bunch of guys, and then you

477
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:11.920
<v Speaker 2>know they don't I don't know how well these guys

478
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<v Speaker 2>were vetted.

479
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 1>That's I don't know.

480
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:18.200
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, film continuing filming, not having anyone go hey,

481
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>you should stop filming this. We need to get her

482
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:22.880
<v Speaker 2>out of this. That's the problem. So like, how does

483
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<v Speaker 2>Tyrone not did she say that? Did Tyra say that

484
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 2>in the thing?

485
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<v Speaker 3>Go?

486
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did fuck that up. I don't remember.

487
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:33.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember either. But here's here's what Netflix says

488
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<v Speaker 3>if you want to know. So. Netflix has reportedly asked

489
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<v Speaker 3>a court to throw out the lawsuit over her appearance.

490
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 3>The Netflix filed documents on Friday asking a judge to

491
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<v Speaker 3>dismiss banks defamation claims. The spokesperson for Netflix told the

492
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<v Speaker 3>outlet on Saturday, the directors Daniel Sivon and more Laoshi

493
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<v Speaker 3>quote our respected documentarians who I thoroughly interviewed the people

494
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:05.119
<v Speaker 3>behind America's Next Top Model. Tyra Banks was given the

495
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to speak openly about her experience, and the creators

496
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:13.680
<v Speaker 3>fairly presented her perspective, alongside those of every other participant

497
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 3>shown in this documentary. We stand behind reality check and

498
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 3>will continue to vigorously defend it. Yeah, so.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, Tira, Yeah, I know, but that seems to be

500
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that's where we were left.

501
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they had to do much.

502
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it was like a Jinks situation, like let

503
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>her just let her, let her do it herself. God,

504
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I wish we could have like a Jink situation every day.

505
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 3>Of course I did it.

506
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>What if is Tyra is on the thing? Of course

507
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.519
<v Speaker 1>I did. Of course I fucked fuck these women. Well,

508
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>my MIC's still on.

509
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 3>I think I think that, like you know, having listened

510
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.400
<v Speaker 3>to the whole podcast too, basically, Tyra's whole attitude is,

511
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, when you know better, you do better, and

512
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Speaker 3>that's fair.

513
00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's fair. I'll give for that, to be honest.

514
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:01.759
<v Speaker 3>That's it's fair. But you can't go back, like if

515
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:04.880
<v Speaker 3>somebody is telling you that, like you showed footage of

516
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 3>them getting assaulted in a shower and they were blackout drunk,

517
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:14.039
<v Speaker 3>you can't be like, well whatever, if you look bad

518
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.359
<v Speaker 3>and you agreed to be interviewed for a documentary. I

519
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 3>don't think you can just claim it was manipulation. Also,

520
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 3>the idea of being like, well I was interviewed for

521
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:27.039
<v Speaker 3>three hours and you only showed fifteen minutes. It's like, well,

522
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 3>that's you don't get to go. You're not the star

523
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:29.599
<v Speaker 3>of it.

524
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there is truth to the fact that when

525
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>you edit something you can frankenstein things a little bit.

526
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, of course we both would probably get so

527
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 2>fucked because we say so many dumb things, and they

528
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>would just take out the like just I'm just kidding.

529
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Obviously they would take those lines out, so it'd just

530
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:47.000
<v Speaker 2>be you going like I.

531
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Love Michael Jackson, especially how he was with kids, like

532
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you would just.

533
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's just kind of our joke about Yeah, that's

534
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:54.279
<v Speaker 3>no kind of the impetus.

535
00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>You did a documentary and you were fucking around because

536
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 2>you were comfortable with the guy interviewing you, and you're

537
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 2>just saying dumb shit it getting your MIC ready and

538
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:02.599
<v Speaker 2>you're like, I hope I don't.

539
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>See something stupid like a love Cosby and then they

540
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just use that.

541
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that's but I don't think that's

542
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.039
<v Speaker 3>what happened. I mean, she's going to be an interviewed. Yeah,

543
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.559
<v Speaker 3>it could, but that's I don't even think that's really

544
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 3>what she's claiming. I think she's claiming like like they

545
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 3>just misused, you know, she did care about the girls

546
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, or I don't know.

547
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, you're probably right. She just doesn't like the

548
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:30.279
<v Speaker 1>other end of it. You could.

549
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.559
<v Speaker 2>There's a world in which you could that could happen,

550
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>even whether she's saying it or not. I'm just like saying,

551
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.039
<v Speaker 2>sometimes editors can be a little shady.

552
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, I will be interested to see if a judge

553
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.920
<v Speaker 3>does throw it out. Yeah, if a judge's attitude is

554
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.279
<v Speaker 3>like fuck you, Tyra, you said what.

555
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>You said, the judge can't have an app They're not

556
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>supposed to feel like that, like fuck you, Tyra.

557
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 1>I watched the documentary and I don't like.

558
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:58.200
<v Speaker 3>But they can look at the evidence and see if

559
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.839
<v Speaker 3>they if she was missing to her, you know, if

560
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 3>they did purposely leave out stuff that would have made

561
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:05.759
<v Speaker 3>it look a lot better for Tyra. Then we'll find out, Right,

562
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 3>we'll find out.

563
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:07.519
<v Speaker 1>There we go.

564
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:13.119
<v Speaker 3>I hope I'm brought on as a juror. Do you

565
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:13.880
<v Speaker 3>think I got to be?

566
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't be a juror. No, because you have

567
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 2>you know too much? Oh do you think it is?

568
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Like do you have a podcast about this?

569
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes? All right, dismissed.

570
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, would you would? Would it be

571
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 3>weird if I lied? Though, Like if I was like,

572
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm no, I have a I have a podcast, but

573
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 3>it's about parenting.

574
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. And you just forgot about this one.

575
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I feel weird, Yeah, like you're not

576
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>even giving this a whole lot of like plugging.

577
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 3>Then there's like jury misconduct, and then it's a whole thing,

578
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 3>and then there's an article about me, and then I'm like,

579
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 3>you know what, you interviewed me about this, but you

580
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 3>didn't even let me say my full side of this

581
00:30:58.519 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 3>whole story.

582
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Like ben A, I forgot.

583
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 3>I legitimately forgot.

584
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I tried to. I got out of a jury once.

585
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we all have.

586
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 2>But this one was like about somebody had said someone

587
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 2>had stabbed the guy on the thing had stabbed a

588
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.039
<v Speaker 2>security guard who was like part of the police department.

589
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.

590
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And so they were interviewing and that I was just

591
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:22.519
<v Speaker 2>trying to think of anything to get off, Like I

592
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>wasn't on the jury yet, but I was I had

593
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.119
<v Speaker 2>made it down. They cut us down, and I was

594
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Speaker 2>in like final selections, you know, and so they're like,

595
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 2>what is your story anything that would like maybe on

596
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 2>either side?

597
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I dated a cop in college

598
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:36.599
<v Speaker 1>and he was a dick.

599
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.079
<v Speaker 2>And I got a huge laugh in the room. I

600
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 2>got a laugh from everyone else, and I got dismissed.

601
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 2>And I probably got dismissed because I was being annoying,

602
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>not because I was like gonna be anti cop.

603
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Well he knew I wasn't.

604
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:51.880
<v Speaker 2>But you know who was in the room was Bill

605
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Dwyer also had been He was also filed down. It

606
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.160
<v Speaker 2>was down to like, however many like seventy of us,

607
00:31:58.400 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 2>you know.

608
00:31:58.680 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

609
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 2>I was trying not to make eye contact with him

610
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>and he was laughing and I got it.

611
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean I got a laugh.

612
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>That's an interesting story.

613
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Did Bill Dwyer get on that jury. He didn't get

614
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 2>on the jury either. And I give him a ride home.

615
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 2>You'd taken the bus and he's like my silver Lake

616
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 2>on the way. I'm like, you bet it is like

617
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 2>the fuck out of here.

618
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Dropped him off.

619
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's really funny. It's very funny that he didn't

620
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:24.880
<v Speaker 3>have a ride.

621
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have a ride. I mean I wouldn't either.

622
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Now I don't have car, so I would have had

623
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>to take some kind of thing and hope that I

624
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 2>ran into someone.

625
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I liked me, you're here, can you give me a

626
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 1>ride back?

627
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 2>And it was totally on the way that would have

628
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:42.839
<v Speaker 2>been before Ubers, right, it was way before Ubers. But yeah,

629
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I was like really just like grabbing at anything to

630
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I did not want to do that, and I really

631
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>couldn't do it. I'm like, I have a job that

632
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't pay me. I mean I'd be out of work

633
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 2>for two weeks, right, I work for myself. But they

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. They do not care. But yeah, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess it was the I was anti up

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<v Speaker 2>and it would be the prosecution that let that dismiss me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not anti cop for the record at all, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was. That's all I had to say. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like dated to a cop, which is true data cop, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was a dick to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't going to change how I voted in

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. Well, I'm going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy that dabbed a security guard, like oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know Edie was probably asking for it. Listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not that's not my that's not my Jedi final judgment.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't been in the trial, but like, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean cops, right, love cops.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I just get a really specific I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we were both ra's and then then he graduated and

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<v Speaker 2>became a cop, all true and like, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>had an affair with Janey and she wore jellies. She

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<v Speaker 2>always wore jellies. And this was like mid nineties. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys like, okay, enough with the jellies. And they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, dismissed, Like you asked for my experience with police.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it, That's what I have, all right, jelly, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, you guys, thank you for being here. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of reality roundups. I know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of you guys are kind of wondering what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bachelor universe and in the Bravo universe.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got two episodes of that this week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all coming out, It's all coming all right bye everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye