Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
of there.
Speaker 2: I was done.
Speaker 3: I wasn't deal with them.
Speaker 4: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
that turned me away the quickest.
Speaker 1: When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
looked at us.
Speaker 4: And one of the things I remember the most, where
the eyes were going red.
Speaker 1: I see an orb of light. It is just circling
these steps.
Speaker 3: Like it is waiting for me.
Speaker 2: And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.
They're basically like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 5: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle,
nose and the eyes.
Speaker 2: As soon as I made eye contact with this thing,
it don't like death.
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Like to take this tign and welcome my guest tonight. Les.
Thanks for coming on here and talking to me.
Speaker 2: Hey, how are you, sir?
Speaker 1: Pretty good? How about yourself?
Speaker 5: I'm doing great, just having a good day. It's quite
hot here in Georgia.
Speaker 1: That's a scorchure here in Indiana too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been having over one hundred degree heat index
is an almost one hundred degree just normal weather. It's
been like ninety nine degrees, so it's been singing out here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, it's quite humid here too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so lovely weather. Yes, you would like to you
want to let the audience know a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 5: So my name is lester Rant and I live in
Mineral Bluff, Georgia, and I am a UFO researcher and
a paranormal investigator. I've been doing this actually three years
this month, and started off in Sarcy, Arkansas, and then.
Speaker 2: Moved here from there.
Speaker 5: To take care of my parents, and then thanks you
started getting progressively more intense here. I ended up seeing
a triangle in the sky, recorded that with my camera
and ended up being in a documentary called Encounters the
Complete Interviews, and that is on Amazon Prime. You can
find it also on TB and I can get it
on there for free too. Nice, and I'm gonna be
speaking at me and my wife were actually going to
be speaking at the World UFO Conference in Clayton, Georgia
on the twenty ninth, which is actually the three year
anniversary of my first starting Nice. Yeah, So, but my
gig is that I basically teach people how to catch
UFOs using old cell phones and spare things that you
have around the house.
Speaker 1: What got you wanting to do that?
Speaker 2: Well, actually it.
Speaker 5: Was quite interesting because I started off in a haunted
house and I saw these orbs and I kind of
prayed about it, and I'd be like, oh, you prayed us, Like, yeah,
I prayed about it, but about being able to see things,
things that people don't normally see. And so what I
did was I first saw these orbits, and the orbs
were really cool, and I was like, all right, well
that was kind of cool. And this is around COVID time,
and so we had, you know, a lot of time
on our hands to do stuff. But I went out
and got me some full spectrum cameras and some other
you know, other parts. And when I got back to Arkansas,
I put my camera up in in selfie mode and
aimed it up to the sky and I went back
and played it. What I did was I took the
file and transferred it from my camera to my computer,
and then I use a program called sm player, which
is freeware, and I go through it frame by frame.
If I see any dots or anything like that that
kind of stands out and then and then I do
a print screen from there and catch all kinds of stuff.
But when I first did at I was watching the
video and I saw the sea when thirty aircraft, and
they see when thirty aircraft was flying by, we were
we were in Little Rock or outside of Little Rock
in Sarcy, Arkansas, and the planes were kind of coming
around and doing a formation, and I noticed that there
were some objects that were following it. And so what
I did was is I basically did what I just
told you. I saved it on video and also you know,
printed out some shots and put it on thumb drive
and decided to call it a Little Rock Air Force
Base and said, hey, I've got some planes or I've
got some objects following your planes. And at first they
thought that that was kind of funny and until I
sent them the videos and they're like oh. And then
I said, well, here's the thing. I said, I've got
a thumb drive, but the files are quite big, so
I can't just email you the stuff. I said, how
about if I just drop it down at the gate.
They said okay. So I went down to the gate
and dropped it down there, and same thing kind of
walked in and I said, well, I've got videos of
objects following your craft, and they kind of chuckled at me,
and I said, well, how about you do this? How
about you call your public a fair's office and once
you talk to them a little bit. So they asked
me to step outside, and then they came out and said, yes,
mister Durant, we would like to have your thumb drive.
And I said, well, thank you so much. And a
few days after that, I noticed a couple of black
Hawk helicopters flying over the elementary school across the street
from me, and I said, hey, gy guys, I'm here.
You know, this is where I live, not holding anything back.
So yeah, so it just kind of progressed from there
and I got to where I recorded so many UFOs
that I was posting them to move on to the
point now, The first one from Little Rock ended up
being my first move on unknown and move on as
a mutual UFO network, and so that was my first
my first unknown. I actually have three of them, but
I started posting so many that they can see me
a serial submitter and yeah, so they ended up blocking
my IP address and everything.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: I said, So I said, if you all want to
play that game, we're gonna play this game. And uh yeah,
So I joined moufon and become a field investigator. So yeah,
and so I spend one hundred and twenty bucks, got
the book, studied.
Speaker 2: And and yeah, and graduated the course. And so.
Speaker 5: Now the thing about that is is that what you
do and I know you're not shooting this over the air,
but there's.
Speaker 2: My ID with them. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So so you have a year to take the test.
You have three tries and uh, and then after that
you know it's but but you find So what I
did was I got the book to f find out
what they are looking for. And then I say, hey, guys,
I can't access your system. I wonder why. And somebody
emailed me back and and it was the tech guy.
I said, oh, we blocked this IP address and it
had my name by it. Isn't that peculiar? So I said,
well for me to work for you guys, I really
need for you to unblock my IP address like I
thought you did anyway, So yeah, me and mouf On
we don't have a really good getting along, but a
lot of people don't actually, from what I've been told.
Speaker 2: So now.
Speaker 5: I just stick my cameras out every day and I
record all kinds of craft and I get to where
I even call them now, and.
Speaker 2: And that's that's a whole nother thing. That's kind of
a CE five type of thing.
Speaker 1: I'll put a little bit about that.
Speaker 5: And so the way I do it is not as intense,
and I don't I don't pay for it.
Speaker 2: I just go out and do it. That's another thing.
You know.
Speaker 5: They like to make money. Of course, everybody likes to
make money, but I don't make money on this. So
what I do is I just go out and ask
for them to fly by, and I pick a star
and it generates the brighty star that's out there in
my area right now. It's either Vega or our tourists,
and so I just keep an eye on the star
and ask him to say, hey, can you fly by.
Speaker 2: We'd really like to be able to see you.
Speaker 5: And just kind of stay focused on that star and
if you notice anything that kind of you know, goes
in between there, that's something that to look to research.
And just about every night I'm able to see something
that go by. And then I've got a really good camera.
I've got a Samsung S twenty two and I can
aim that up to the sky and catch some great shots.
And I get so many now that I dedicate them
to people. And so you can go on my web
or on my YouTube channel which is objects and Orbs
and check that out and like and subscribe to my channel.
And yeah, So I dedicated to people all the time.
And then I invite people to come up here to
the mountain and hang out and teach them how to
do it. And because you know, I get enough myself,
So I just dedicated to people.
Speaker 1: Now, why do you think I'm completely It's just just
an opinionated question, but sure, why did you think move
On blocked your ip? Like if that's what, if that's
something that they're wanting to know.
Speaker 5: Right, you would think, right, you would think, yeah, you
would think And yeah, So after I became a move
On investigator, I only did one. I only was given
one case and I decided to quit one because I'm adhd.
But two about how they treat people, because they had
already treated a friend of mine bad and so I
already knew what was in store for me because they
kind of associated us together. But the thing is is
that as a move On investigator, you have twenty days
to research a case. So if I'm posting ten cases
right there, I just ate up somebody's months, you know,
or year, just in my cases alone, so I mean,
I can see their point, but all I asked was
to have audience with them, to show them what I do,
even via a sky presoom or something like that.
Speaker 2: But that's fine.
Speaker 5: I've done it time and time again for the past
few years, so I'm not really worried about it. That's
not really what it is anymore. But yeah, yeah, I
think that that's.
Speaker 1: Why someone sent me a video about It'll be two
weeks ago. It's upcoming weekend, and it is a very
interesting video and they're from my hometown, so I need
to go over and actually look at it during the day.
But there is something strange flying across the sky and
you can see it on the video, but the video
is blur because he zoomed in at nighttime, was like
at one twelve am, so of course it's black outside,
so anything that's light's going to turn into a blur
with a typical cel phone camera. But him and his
girlfriend were out at a campfire, like they had a
campfire going on, and they're just sitting out back and
they saw this thing flying and basically he recorded it
because it was strange, but he said it was who
I was spinning like lights are rotating around it, yet
you can't really see it on the video. He sent
it to me to ask if I knew how to
clear up the video yes, and I was like, I
don't know of any ways to really do that besides
sending to someone that has any idea. I was like,
I'm not a professional becomes anything like that, but it's
an interesting piece and I want to try and dive
into a little bit more. So I need to go,
like I said, do my own little reconnaissance on and
look into the area to see where it is during
the day, to try and see where it was at nighttime,
trying to get an idea of maybe how big the
thing was, because it looks really big on the video.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So the way that you do that is if you
have access to download the video. Here's what I would
do is to download it to your computer. And it
looks like you've got a really nice system there too,
so which would be fine. Download sm player dot info
it's freeware, and then what you will do is you're
going to go frame by frame and zoom in on it.
So to go frame by frame, you're going to use
the greater then or less than and then to zoom in.
You're going to press the E button and you can
zoom in on that. And I've got I catch those
all the time. It's been a while since I've got
them though, And yeah, they kind of they kind of
twirl around like a big ball. But when you slow
them down, they're actually showing you designs and they're all
different colors, and those are what they call a mercabove vehicle,
which is Ezekiel's vision basically. And so I've got some
of a green square and you know, different blue lights
and red lights and just different different and different shapes.
And once you pull up those shapes, it's really spectacular.
But the the way that you can see them is
that you really have to slow it down. So even
what I'm doing now is in fact, we'll go back
talk about slowing things down. I had a video from
two years ago that I went and remastered. I brought
it up to four K so and by that I
brought it up using software and a movie production suite.
So I sped it up and then slowed it down
so then that way I could get a better resolution
of it. And with that I can go frame by
frame by frame and still catch stuff that is at
one sixtieth of a second as far as the frames go,
and it's it's really crazy how that works. But yeah,
so I would I would highly do that, you know,
and if you ever need any help, of course, so
just let me know. And and I offer that to
anybody too, if anybody wants to email me my my
emails objects and orbs at gmail dot com. And I
also do a step by step on how to you know,
do the video production. And the first video in fact
that I did that I was telling you about Little
Rock Air Force BACE is on It's on my YouTube
channel and it's thirty minutes long and it's UFOs fly
over Circi Arkansas see or seene over Circi Arkansas, thirty
thirty minutes long. You can actually slow it down? Are
you actually stop it now? I will tell you this
is that the the video there's a video on there
that says colorful UFO and you can pause it yourself.
Just hit the pause button whenever you're watching YouTube video
and you can see you can see for yourself how
it does, how all those objects change.
Speaker 2: So it's a good example of that is also on
my YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to ask him if he wants me
to do anything with the video because it's his video.
I don't want to send it out or post it
up or anything because oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I yeah, I totally yeah, I know, I
would give total attribution to him.
Speaker 2: I mean that's something that we do.
Speaker 5: That was another thing that move On likes to do
is steal people's stuff and post it as their own.
Speaker 1: When you mentioned one hundred and twenty dollars that instantly
you sent up red flex to me because there's other
things that look into investigations and everything and they want
you to send them money, and you got to send them. Feel.
I understand it takes money to do stuff. Yeah, but
it's almost like that's what they're all about more than
when you said they banded your IP and everything else.
To me, it's almost like they're just wanting to get
people's money. You want to oh you want to be
an investigator, send this your money? I was like, man,
that's kind of yeah.
Speaker 5: And and to go to their conventions, Oh my gosh, yeah,
I spend five thousand grand something like that. Sure of course,
same thing with see five Stephen Greer and those people
are like, oh yeah, just to go one of his
deals is like you gotta be you got to be
high up on this change.
Speaker 1: I heard it was like ten thousand dollars. I think
one of his dinners or whatever. Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2: You're the second person who's told me that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I try to watch his show to be honest,
when he did that, it's the fifth whatever it was called.
Speaker 2: By the Yeah close the Counters five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to watch it and to be honest,
like kind of bored me. Yeah, And I just I
would talk to the guy. I would actually love to
interview him. So I'm saying this will probably never come
on the show. But like I feel like he's kind
of a grifter.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, no, I I think so too. I
I do know that he he knows his he knows his.
Speaker 2: Stuff, but.
Speaker 1: Out there is a little ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah so if yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: So if if if you know something you keep it
all to yourself, then how is that going to be?
And so like if you if you come see me
on the twenty ninth in Clayton, Georgia, is fifteen bucks
and you can come to my table.
Speaker 2: I'll scow you all my stuff. You can sit there
all day with me.
Speaker 1: By the time this errs for the listeners, that'll probably
already be over.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's all right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, but but really, and my thing
too is anybody who wants to FaceTime with me, by
all means, I can do that too at any time.
I've got my other camera out on the deck behind me.
I actually out there. I got another computer out there
as well, and it's uh, you know, I can just
go out there and I can call craft and and
do all kinds of stuff with that.
Speaker 2: You know, was this.
Speaker 1: Something that you're interested in, Brian? I mean you membered
in like twenty twenty or whatever, But was this something
like as a younger kid or something that you ever
had interest in or not?
Speaker 2: Not really?
Speaker 5: I mean I I didn't even really think of UFO's
in or even or even ghosts really for that matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really didn't really wasn't a thing. But I knew.
Speaker 5: I knew, like back in the late seventies, you know,
the close encounters came out and all that, and that
was kind of a big thing back then, but it
wasn't as talked about.
Speaker 2: Do you uh, do you have your phone with you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what I want you to do. Can you?
Speaker 5: Can you go to Google for me? Google Search. I'm
gonna walk everybody through this. This might be something that
that would be good because this is what I'm gonna
do at the convention.
Speaker 2: Just let me know when you pull that up.
Speaker 1: I'm on Google.
Speaker 5: Now, okay, great, Here's what I want you to do.
I want you to take type in M.
Speaker 2: A J I C.
Speaker 5: Space hang on, Okay, you're fine, You're fine, M A
JI magic space, R E A G A and Reagan
like Ronald Reagan, magic Reagan. Let me know when you
got that pulled up, and then you're gonna see something
that looks like.
Speaker 2: The E five blah blah blah, some kind of PDF
file or worm file file. Click on that.
Speaker 5: H okay, okay, now once that downloads, Now, you gotta
remember this is coming from the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library,
right yep.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: So once you got that and it's downloaded, then I
want you to go to page let's see page nineteen,
and you're you're gonna keep scrolling down eyes only. Oh
there you go, there you go? All right, all right, good, Now,
here's what I want you to do, is I want.
Speaker 2: You to read.
Speaker 5: Read let's see in the middle where it says, let
me go right right down here. Okay, it says, in
spite of these efforts, go ahead and read that if
you can't.
Speaker 1: In spite of these efforts, a little of substance was
learned about the objects until a local rancher reporter that
won and had crashed in a remote region in New Mexico,
located approximately seventy five miles northwest of Roswell Army Air
Base now Walker Field.
Speaker 2: Okay, now read that second paragraph or the third one.
Speaker 1: On July seventh, nineteen forty seven, a secret operation had
begun to assure recovery of a wreckage that of this
object of air of scientific study. During the course of
this operation, aerial reconnaissance discovered that for small human like
beings had apparently ejected from the craft at some point
before it exploded. These had fallen to the earth about
two miles east of the wreckage site. All four were
dead and badly decomposed due to the action of by
predators and exposure to the elements during the approximately one
week time period which had elapsed before their recovery. A
special scientific team took charge of removing these both bodies
before study the attachment see Wreckage of the craft had
also been removed several times to different locations see attachment
be Civilian and military witnesses in the area were debriefed,
and news reporters were given the effective cover story that
the object had been misguided. Whether research balloons.
Speaker 2: Hmm, okay, do you think Roswell happened?
Speaker 1: That's interesting because of it's on the Ronald Reagan thing.
Speaker 5: Okay, now scroll up to page eighteen. Tell me about
Operation Majestic twelve.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's where it's got everyone's names on it
and everything.
Speaker 2: It's okay, the first where it says Operation Majestic twelve is.
Speaker 1: A top sigarette research and development intelligence operation responsible for
directly and only to the President of the United States.
Operations of the project are carried out under control of
Majestic twelve Group, which was established by a special classified
executive order of the President Truman on September twenty fourth,
nineteen forty seven, upon recommendation by doctor Benover Bush, Secretary
of James or Struld see attachment as members and has
all the people's.
Speaker 2: Very good, all right? Have you ever heard of MJ twelve?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: I have great.
Speaker 5: Okay, Now here's what I want you to do. So
we verified that document. What I want you to do
is to go back to Google and then you're going
to type in.
Speaker 2: Org org security clearance or chart security clearance.
Speaker 5: Okay, so it would be like or org like organizational
so org space chart space security space clearance, and that's
going to take you to wikimedia.
Speaker 1: Wikimedia Commons security clearance organization chart.
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, start at the bottom, and
you don't have to read all of them, but start
at the bottom and you can, of course, you can
read them out.
Speaker 1: That's taken a while for it to load. Okay, I'm
down here in a basement, so it's not the greatest
of service.
Speaker 2: Oh no, hey, that's that's fine up up here on
the mountain on the same.
Speaker 1: Way that clicked on. But it's not one to load.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's fine. Uh So we'll kind of give that
a moment now at the very bottom.
Speaker 2: Now, actually, let me let me. I'm gonna ask you
a question.
Speaker 5: Where do you think the president resides in all of
this security clearance?
Speaker 2: How much do you think the president knows?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't think they know everything. I think they're
kind of left in the Darkford like deniability reasons.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, very good, and all right, so here's
what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Okay, loaded up, Okay, So the President is at level
from one to twenty eight mm hmm, and above him
is other ones Majestic, Cosmic, Luna, Ultrastellar, Astral, Cosmos, Triad orbit,
and ZD twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly.
Speaker 5: So it starts off for a restricted confidential secret, top
secret SI USAP president is at number seventeen. There's still
ten more above that or eleven, and then it goes
Z twenty seven Orbit, Triad, Cosmos, Astral, Stellar, Ultra, Luna, Cosmic,
and majestic. All right, so majestic, ooh ooh, okay, so
let's take a look. I want you to look up
cosmic security clearance on your phone now, and I want
everybody to do this.
Speaker 1: Everybody that says this is the this is the essentially
the same as US top secret for the NATO nations.
That's the first thing that popped up, okay, and this
is the same as the US secret information that would
be caused serious damage to NATO. NATO confidential all allows
for access to information that would be damaging the interest
of NATO.
Speaker 2: Right, that means if NATO is gone, who's above them?
Speaker 1: The US? No, all the.
Speaker 2: No, They're they're cosmic, majestic majestic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that means twelve dudes still no more than NATO. Okay,
now do you know that there is still some there's
still more above majestic?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: What above majestic?
Speaker 5: Good answer? Okay, there's a movie called Above Majestic and
you got to find it on to Be It has
Laura Eisenhower in it.
Speaker 2: You ever heard of her?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's the okay where they talk about the secret
space programs. Hmm.
Speaker 5: Okay, so Above Majestic I'll just tell you right now
it is the Freemasons and the Reptilians.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: So basically what Loura Eisenhower has talked about, she's talking
about doing off site or actually off planet.
Speaker 2: She was a spirited off planet.
Speaker 5: So we know that there are bases on Mars and
there's bases on the Moon. How do we know that? Well,
what we do is I also have documentation that the
that the military has done teleportation studies. And the document
I had and you can find it, and I can't
even show you how to do that. You just type
in teleportation dot org, not dot org dot pdf and
you can find it on there. But the document I
have is from twenty ten, I think. So I tell people,
do you think in that many years did we figure
it out? And so I got a feeling that we did.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: The other thing is is that the government is also, uh,
they know about anti gravity.
Speaker 2: So if you type in anti.
Speaker 5: Gravitics dot pdf, dot mil dot pdf, that's something you
can find out there. There's a lot of stuff that
you can find a Freedom of Information Act.
Speaker 2: You just got to know where it's at. You just
got to know how to search terms.
Speaker 1: If you want to send me all of this in
an email, and I will, I will include all those
links in my show notes for anyone out there listening.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be great, That would be fantastic. Yeah,
I would love to do that. Just yeah, just text
me back to your email and I can.
Speaker 2: I can do that.
Speaker 5: So then all right, now now that we've got that, uh, yeah,
so I go from yes, UFOs are real, it really
happened to yeah, to above majestic and reptilians and there's
there's a more. Now, where where do they do all
the testing at where do they do all this at? Well, actually,
last month I buried my dad eight miles from there
in Vernon, Utah, not too far from the weight Proving
Grounds Area fifty two. So they pretty much own the
entire half side of the entire western side of the
state of Utah. And what they do out there is
they do a lot of biological testing and you can
also find biological testing on humans and you know all
that fun stuff out there as well. And that base
is actually is protected not all the way to space,
but infinity. Now I wonder why. Yeah, the Navy has
an Area fifty one counterpart.
Speaker 2: You can look this up to.
Speaker 5: It's called AUTECH which is the Atlanta Atlanta the Atlantic.
Speaker 2: Let me pull this up a ute s Artic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, here we go, I TECH Strategic Plan. There you go,
AUTEC Strategic Plan. Yeah, it's the Atlantic Anti Test and
Evaluation Center where they do calibration, classifications, detection, and destruction.
This is in Florida and the Bahamas. They are also
protected to space. Now why would the Navy want to
be protected to space? I don't know, but I've been
told that that's possibly a portal to uh Atlantis.
Speaker 2: Now talk about portals. Talk about portals. I actually have
a portal over my house. I catch stuff all the time.
But do you ever watch Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of the first season, but
I haven't finished.
Speaker 5: Oh no, really, Oh come on now, no, no, no, no,
you need to go back and watch the last the
last episodes of this season.
Speaker 2: That'll catch you up. They actually have found a wormhole there.
Speaker 1: Yes, I struggle watching the shows on like History Channel
and everything because I feel like they're all kind of
they're not going to release a whole lot of real information.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you gotta watch Skinwalker and the and IF. Okay,
so here's what I want you to do. Back on
your phone again. Back on your phone, type in Brandon
Fogle fu g a L. Brandon Fugle. I will tell
you that he is a real estate He's a realator
in Utah. You can actually buy property from this guy.
But tell me a little bit about him.
Speaker 1: The first thing that pops up just says he is
a prominent business leader, recognized as a market leader, and
then out here listening for the owner of Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 2: All right, a good deal.
Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, so he is also a real estate salesman,
and it just so happens he actually had some when
I was burying my dad out in Vernon. He has
some land out there, and I wonder why. It's because
it's near Area fifty two. And yeah, so all that
that you see on there is one hundred percent real.
Speaker 2: It's all there.
Speaker 5: And uh, the thing I like about that show is
because they invite the governor from the governor of Utah.
Speaker 2: They invite the the uh uh, well what do you
call that guy?
Speaker 5: The oh, not the tax guy, but you know, just
one of those you know, one of the big guys,
you know that works in the Senate up there or whatever.
So they invite those people, Hey, come on down, come
see what we got, you know. And but a lot
of creepy stuff goes on there, and that's one thing
I always kind of thought about. And you know, uh,
there's a lot of cattle mutilations up there, and just
Utah is very Utah is a very crazy state for
that kind of stuff. And when I was there, I
you know what I did. I took like and now
your audience can't see, but behind me is my cameras,
So I uh stuck my cameras out there, and uh
took him to Utah with me and I caught the
portal and also caught uh some other great stuff that
It's also on my objects and ORBS channel and you know,
check it out. So yeah, Uh, one thing about me,
I don't mess around. I don't do any I don't
do any conspiracy theories, none of that stuff. I I
spit it out to let you find it. I want
you to find it, and and by you, I mean
you and your your your audience, want everybody to find out.
And because the more people that know this stuff, the
more of a moot point it's going to be when
they do release it. And just the other day, I
mean just a couple of days ago, I saw where
there's a possibility that they might bring UFOs up.
Speaker 2: In the in the election. That'd be great.
Speaker 5: I would love that because a lot of the people
down here in Georgia, you know, I kind of don't
believe in that stuff. I said, hey, guys, when the
time comes, I'm gonna say I told you so sorry.
Speaker 2: That's where it goes. Yeah, you gotta local dude living.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you got a local dude in your area,
you know, And it's like, utilize me because a lot
of people down here they think they're demons, and I'm like, no,
they're not demons. They feel angelic to me when they
fly over. So and I'm not putting anybody down. I'm
just saying this is how I feel. This is what
other research says. It doesn't matter what that says. It
just means that when it comes down that you need
to know what's coming at you. You know, And I
tell people, friend your folk, Hey, if i'm looking, if
i'm up there, if i'm if I am a watch out,
then that's fine.
Speaker 2: You don't have to look up. Don't be looking up
on July fourth, Please don't.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying I'll look up for you. If I
see any demons, I'll let them know. But right now
I'm not seeing any because the ones that come by
me are angels.
Speaker 1: I think the whole misconstrued thing with demons and UFOs
and aliens. If these were demons in my opinion, which
my opinion means nothing but the way I process things,
why would they need ships?
Speaker 2: Right? Hey? You know what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Like if they're if they're a spiritual thing,
if you believe in Christian and everything. Why are they
flying around in UFO ships? Like they don't need that,
you wouldn't think so none of that. That's that's good.
Speaker 2: No, I like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that. I'm gonna have to use that,
thank you. Brandon says, No, that's just.
Speaker 1: That's just what I've always thought about them, Like, they
don't why would they need UFOs to fly around them?
Speaker 2: Right, that's why I like So.
Speaker 5: So my group even on Facebook is objects and orders,
but my group is my team.
Speaker 2: I don't have just a bunch of subscribers.
Speaker 5: I have people that are scientists, people that are theorists,
people that are spiritualists. But you know, people who can
think outside the box like me, because sometimes I don't
always thinks straight. So people can be like, oh, let's
turn around this way. Ah right, yeah, so that totally
makes a lot of sense. So one thing that I
did instead of now, I've been posting to a lot
of the local towns here too, you know. So yeah,
so it's kind of like poking at the hornet's nest.
But it's all right because I've been through that. So
you know, I just keep whittling away a little bit,
you know, and you go small town America. Here's what
I'm seeing, and I keep seeing it, you know, but yeah,
and you know, it's just it's just one of those
things I feel that I'm blessed to be able to
see them. And I even prayed about it. And remember
back now, let's let's scroll all the way back that
I prayed about it and to see things that people
don't normally see. And so when I put my cameras out,
I am them up to the sun so we can't
look at the sun. So that's where I catch him out.
So if you go, h oh, yeah, so you catch
now I'm one of my latest videos online is a
mother ship that comes out of the sun and then
it goes into a portal and and disappears. So now,
and I caught that on a security cam and that
was only twenty four frames a second, but the quality
still looks pretty dang nice. But yeah, and I need
a you know, I need a fast computer to be
able to kind of look in on that. But if
but if you go back and look at it and
be like, dang, all right, but I'm just used to
seeing these little blips here and blips there, and and
now that I've got a faster computer and a gamer computer.
I can go from a window seven like I had
years ago to a really nice, you know, nice processor
right now. And I'm gonna be really excited when I'm
able to get a little bit more ram and and
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: But but for.
Speaker 5: What I've got right now, I can process four K
and I just released a four K video of something
that was from two years ago, just a few minutes ago.
So if you go to my Objects and Orbs channel,
I'm gonna actually, uh yeah, I'm gonna actually do this
right now. I'm gonna hit next and boom. So if
you go to objects and Orbs, you will see my
very latest this is this will be for you and
your and your people, This for your audience. So just say, hey,
let's said that fast, don't it. Shape UFO over Blue
Ridge is going out to you. So I'm gonna dedicate
this uh old video to you. So yeah and yeah,
because I and I catch stuff. I catch stuff even
when I go back. Now, all of my I'm gonna say,
all my videos and my screenshots are from video, so
I keep all of the original videos that come with them. Now,
the ones at night, the ones at night I generally
try to get with the tripod and if I'm not
able to, I just like in it with my hands,
and a lot of times I'm able to catch stuff
really nicely that way, especially when they're blue. Or the
other night I called three of them and they come
within three minutes. And actually that one was I dedicated
that to a guy here in town, and I kind
of turned him from a non believer into a believer.
Speaker 2: So that's all right.
Speaker 1: That brings me up to a few questions, like when
you say you call them and everything I've heard, let's
go to talk about this, how does that work?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's very simple.
Speaker 5: You know, like in July of last year, they had
the UAP subcommittee that pretty much said that, hey, we
need help with these things. We don't know what they are,
that kind of thing. So if you think about it,
what would be the next thing. Let's say that yep,
they're here. What are we going to do next? Well,
how about try to communicate with them. So I've talked
to a few people in the UFO community and said, well,
the best thing to do is to philepathy. So you
think in your mind or you call out. And the
way that I do it. So it's it's like it's
like C five, but without all the extra stuff I got,
you know, no meditation, no money, no music, no that stuff.
Speaker 1: I just walk out meals right.
Speaker 5: I walk out on my deck and I said, hey,
can you fly by? And it's very simple. So I
have my camera like this, I got my Skymap. So
the apps I'm glad you asked.
Speaker 2: So the apps that I use.
Speaker 5: Are I use sky Map and I can get on
there and on Android, and uh, I know on the
iPhone you can use there's other mapping apps for the
stars and and sky Map. I put it up and
I aim it at the brightest star in the sky.
So I've got our tourists right now. And then I
also have Vega, and so I just kind of keep
an eye on both of those and just hold them
up and then just kind of hang out like this
and say, hey, can you fly by? I really like
to be able to see you. Can you show your colors?
Thank you so much for using my equipment. And you
just keep but you keep looking up even if you
got your camera holding up. You know, you keep your
camera still up. You're looking around because they don't always
come right in front of the object that you want
are the star that you want, But a lot of
times they do. And so the other night I had
some guy I told him, I said, well, how about
if I dedicate one to You said, all right, you know,
kind of chuckle a little bit, and then.
Speaker 2: Once you know what, we got three of them in
three minutes.
Speaker 5: So and what you see on my object on my
YouTube channel is.
Speaker 2: That exact video. There's no editing to it.
Speaker 5: And in fact, my wife came out and she said, oh,
there's one, there's another one. I'm like, well, shoot, let
me try this. And I was like, hey, I'm still
trying to catch this one. She's like, well, did you
catch this other one? I was like no, And then
I come over here and catch that one and it's yeah.
So they just come that way. So it makes you
wonder am I calling? Am I calling a lot of satellites?
Or it's something naturally there? And the fact that I
keep doing it over and over and over and over again,
you know, uh, that just kind of tells me that
something's going on. And then it then you have to
rewind it back a little bit. You have to say, well,
how do they know I'm gonna call it. That's where
it gets really deep because if they are out that fast.
Speaker 2: Now, if you look at.
Speaker 5: The video that I just posted fast, don't shaped UFO
the one I told you about. If you look at that,
I slowed it down so freaking slow that. Yeah, I
mean they can travel that fast to maybe know when
you're gonna call them or too to be able to
pick that up, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And so so it's it's something that it's quite interesting
to think about, but it opens up a whole new
new world. So I love I love catching my ghost.
That's a lot of fun, but it's kind of a
stale or staging at it. You're either catching ghost or
demons or whatever. You know, blah blah blah. That's kind
of cool and all. But you know, no, for me,
I like catching all kinds of different stuff. I catch
stuff that that is always different. It's it's like every night,
every night is is a treasure hunt. And if you
look at one that's UFO Mothership goes through Portal portal
over Mineral Bluff, Georgia, you'd be like, dang. Yeah, So
that was kind of a golden a piece of gold
up there for me. And for that to actually disappear
in the portal. But that day, that day, it was
a very beautiful day. It was completely clear, it was
blue skies. And I live nineteen hundred feet up on
a hill or here we call it a mountain, but
you know it's surrounded by pine trees and all that,
and not a cloud in the sky. So I said,
you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna have a
UFO field day, and I'm gonna call angels. So I said,
you know what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna call angels.
I said, God, will you send your angels for me?
Because I know that God's not gonna send me demons.
But you know, I'm just trying to prove that to
the locals. So I got all kinds of stuff that day,
and to the point where it's like, oh my gosh.
You know, I even't surprised myself, but I got one
scaredy camera out, a four K cam, all my old
cell phones, my Samsung S seven. Oh my gosh, I
can catch stuff on these phones right here, in fact,
number three, this is my baby right here. I've caught
all kinds of stuff with this. So I tell people, hey,
how many how many old cell phones do you have
at your house, you know, one or two? Well, all
you gotta do is charge them up and as long
as you can still get Wi Fi access, then you
can use skymap on there.
Speaker 2: You can use you can use manual camera.
Speaker 5: You can use a camera and you set it up
and let it record and then just transfer it to
a computer.
Speaker 1: Does it have to be an old phone for that
to work or can the newer phones pick it up?
Speaker 2: Oh? Newer phones picked it up. Great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just don't want anybody taking their Samsung out there
there s y two and having the sun burn it out,
you know, yeah, yeah, no, if you're able to. Of course,
I've got an iPhone five that records sixty frames a
second and nineteen twenty ten AP and shoot. That works great.
But even my first video was actually it was a
four K Motorola and so yeah, the better quality you
can get, the better. Hey, by all means.
Speaker 1: For anyone listening and you said you shoot it, you're
filming at the sun or whatever, what was your what
would if people say you're picking up lens flares?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: So yeah, so the great thing about this is that
the camera is not moving, so the lens flair generally
has to move with the camera. So if you look
down and you look at my videos, you'll see that
the especially on my Circi one, that the lens flare
looks like a moon in the sky and then then
the sun is like down, so it pretty much stays
the same. And then the other step just kind of
goes around. Here is because you got to remember the
sun is not moving that fast. When you're moving your camera,
your lens flair is like whoo, it's all over the place, right, Yeah,
you're looking all over the place. But and I even
have a demo where it actually shows me moving the
flare over the top of the tree, so I kind
of I'm actually conscious of where the flare is.
Speaker 2: I can do that.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: What I also do is I try to put the
flare in the sun. So if you if you.
Speaker 5: Move the camera down just a little bit, and so
here see here's I know you're I know you people
can't see this. But these are just a few of
my phones. They all have bel crow on the back.
And then what I do is, I've got a little door.
Speaker 2: Here we go. Hold on, I got this really expensive mountain.
Speaker 5: No, it's actually just a lower hinge with bell crow
on it and putting my camera up here like this,
and well, actually I'm sticking it to the bel crow
and then I can aim it up, set it on
a just set it on the fence post and name
it up there and then transfer it over. So the
sun is moving around while the camera's just staying staying still,
right yeah, and then when you see what I got this, Okay,
so great example. The video that I just dedicated to
you is all in the sun and at the top. Now,
at the very end of it, you will be able
to see the actual footage.
Speaker 2: So I've got like ten seconds.
Speaker 5: So out of fifty seconds, it's all slowed down, but
the last ten seconds is the full video with the
lens flair in it.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'll have to go check it out here
when we're done. Yes, well, it's been a very interesting conversation.
Like I've I'm not sure I've never filmed anything looking
at the sun. Obviously we just had the eclipse not
long ago. I would take photos of that, right, I've
never actually tried to record anything with my camera towards
the sun because I was afraid I'll screw it up.
Speaker 2: What kind of phone do you have.
Speaker 1: I have an iPhone thirteen pro.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so can you catch Steph at night?
Speaker 1: It does let me do night photos, but for some
reason like it if you take a photo, it does
like that three to ten second pause.
Speaker 5: Before right right, Yeah, so your video. Yeah, I'm doing
video and go out tonight. You got are you in
Central time or Eastern?
Speaker 1: I'm an Eastern time, So it's already.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you got you got about another time hour,
got about another forty five minutes. Because the golden hours
from if it's clear there, the golden hours from about
nine thirty to ten thirty or about eleven.
Speaker 2: And so now what.
Speaker 5: I like to do is I got to go pick
This is why I wasn't on last night, was because
I got to go pick up my wife a dollar
General and pick up my stepdaughter at Duncan. And so
right about that time, if I see something down there,
I'm gonna get people out of the the public say
hey see that thing up there? Yeah, because I'm gonna
call him. And but that's what I want you to do.
Just do what I told you and just go out
there and say can you fly by in? But to
keep looking up and look at the brightest star and
you're like, well, how do I know.
Speaker 2: The brightest star? Well looking, stick.
Speaker 5: Your camera up there and and aim up the sky
map and it should tell you straight away if it's
a vega or our tourists, and get to know your
I tell people this, get to know your theater and
get to know your sky. Even if you have you know,
one hundred feet or the sky each way, that's your
one hundred feet of sky as long as you can
see stars in that. Just just stay focused on that,
even if you have to lay out in the grass
with your eyes looking straight up, and I guarantee you
you're going to see something, especially if you call it.
Speaker 1: Try that out sometime.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, Less, it's been a pleasure talking with you. But
before we wrap this up, I would like for you
to let everyone know again where they can find your
channel at and how they can reach out to you.
Speaker 5: Yes, all right, So my channel is objects and Orbs
on YouTube, just you know, just like that, Objects and Orbs,
and then I have a Facebook group called Objects and
Orbs as well. I've got a channel, I've got a page,
but I don't really use Facebook page, but I use
my group. And then and then I do have a
localized group just for basically the Tri State area. I
live about five miles from North Carolina and five miles
from Tennessee on the Georgia line, and so I've started
a Tri State Supernatural, which is for people who are
kind of like into this but are wanting to kind
of get started into it, you know, and and they're like,
you know, they think one way and you know what
I'm saying, so which is great and I'm very thankful
for that that they want to at least check it out.
Speaker 2: So I've got that group too, So that's.
Speaker 5: Kind of for new be starting out in this and
just pretty much talk the way we did and and
that's the way I do stuff.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Yeah, again, make sure I will message you here
my email address, but yeah, send me whatever links you
have for what we talked about and then I will
put those in the show notes for anyone out there
that's interesting. Alrighty well, that's been a pleasure talking with you.
Thank you you too. Yep. I hope you have a
good night.
Speaker 2: All right, be good.
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And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share,
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all for joining us on this journey, and until next time,
keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring the unknown.
Speaker 1: Good night, everyone, see on sounds in the headphones. Yeah,
it's turn to rock.
Speaker 2: Got a story about a crypty creature.
Speaker 4: Let's take a walk, big foot up there. They're out
there in the talk, but the truth is out there,
likingly as fuck. UFO Sighting's got the whole world show
conspiracies on phones like a story in a book.
Speaker 5: So all trying to.
Speaker 1: Keep us fine.
Speaker 4: We're all gonna use the whole mind.
Speaker 5: In history.
Speaker 4: They don't want us to know the secrets that hide,
since they will show. So they do society. They keep
us in chase, but then in time it's time to
break the reins. Control trying to keep us fine, But
I'm all people are gonna use my mind.
Speaker 5: In history.
Speaker 4: They don't want us to know the secrets. Said, since
they all show sty a society than you for us
and chase the sand it talk, this is time to
break the reins
Speaker 5: Mm hm