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<v Speaker 1>For members only. Golf Smarter number three hundred and eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>published on June eighteen, twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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<v Speaker 2>Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets old. Our

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<v Speaker 3>But now we're getting into the green reading, which is

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<v Speaker 3>an important factor because in the green reading again, we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about three major areas. What's the speed of my putt?

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<v Speaker 3>And what's the slope of my putt? Am I efficiently aiming?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I efficiently making a ball to roll end over end?

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<v Speaker 1>Two feet?

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<v Speaker 3>Straight? Two feet and straights? Am efficiently aiming? Now? How

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<v Speaker 3>do I read the green? So? How do I read

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<v Speaker 3>the green? Is as I decide what the speed of

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<v Speaker 3>this green is slow, medium, or fast or super fast.

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<v Speaker 3>We assume that all greens are two degrees of slow,

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<v Speaker 3>which quite frankly is probably true on an app two

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<v Speaker 3>degrees around.

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<v Speaker 1>I have two degrees I know when you have multi

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<v Speaker 1>level greens.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm looking at the hole. I'm standing around the

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<v Speaker 3>cup because keep in mind, the last five feet in

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<v Speaker 3>my puttet are the most important aspects. As the ball

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<v Speaker 3>slows down, that's when gravity has its bigger effect. So

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<v Speaker 3>when I got a thirty foot pott, the first fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>or twenty feet of that are important, but not as

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<v Speaker 3>a massively important to the slope. The most important areas

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<v Speaker 3>that sloping area around the hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down the details of vector putting are two with

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<v Speaker 1>John Grunt.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Golf Smarter.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Golf Smarter for members only. John.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, great to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you're still here. All right. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to pick it right back up where we were on

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<v Speaker 1>stag right, and to redefine stagg. It's kind of your

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<v Speaker 1>method of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a methodology that I think that

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<v Speaker 3>are four principal areas that good putters are always involved in, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>as being speed, speed t two feet and straight two feet.

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<v Speaker 1>And straight aim for a and G is green reading.

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct, all right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about do we do we fully finil one?

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<v Speaker 3>One thing I need to add about the speeds see

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<v Speaker 3>is important in that based on the new technologies of

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<v Speaker 3>green reading which vector and and aim point involve, which is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how how a ball travels over over distance

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<v Speaker 3>in time and friction and uh, slope and all those

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<v Speaker 3>things that are involved, which which are derived from mathematical

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<v Speaker 3>equations to help you read putts. Okay, now that sounds

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<v Speaker 3>very complicated and and uh, but both of them have

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<v Speaker 3>done a better job of breaking it down so that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to be a nuclear physicist to figure

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<v Speaker 3>it out. But I found vector to be a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more simple for myself. But one of the components

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<v Speaker 3>is the speed, And both of them kind of agree

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<v Speaker 3>that about twelve inches past the past the whole is

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<v Speaker 3>what they equate into their their algorithms to to at

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<v Speaker 3>the appropriate point or the appropriate aim alignment to make

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<v Speaker 3>your putt. So what this means to the average golfer

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<v Speaker 3>is if I roll a ball one inch past the

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<v Speaker 3>front edge of the cup, I'm gonna I have a

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<v Speaker 3>better chance of my ball going in than if I

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<v Speaker 3>roll it by fourteen inches. Okay, the faster the ball

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<v Speaker 3>comes to the hole, then the less surface space I

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<v Speaker 3>am using of that cup from a gravity standpoint for

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<v Speaker 3>that ball to go in. So that once I start

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<v Speaker 3>getting past about two feet, the chances of my ball

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<v Speaker 3>going in the hole unless it hits dead center are

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<v Speaker 3>becoming very slim, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It might even just hit the back of the cup,

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<v Speaker 1>pop up exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's at about two and a half feet. That's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much the equation. Okay, so once you get to three

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<v Speaker 3>feet past the cup, you know, the idea of never up, never.

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<v Speaker 1>In is I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if I never got the ball to the hole,

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<v Speaker 3>it would never go in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, of course, okay, one hundred percent of butts

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<v Speaker 1>that are short, Well I'll here's my other say, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of the puts that are too fast don't

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<v Speaker 1>go in either. Well that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So so you know, so speed becomes an essential

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<v Speaker 3>component and how much speed we have, so how we

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<v Speaker 3>plan to hit every put is important and the speed

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<v Speaker 3>as a major factor. I use more of the hole

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<v Speaker 3>if I have proper speed than I do if I

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<v Speaker 3>have the improper speed.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're cutting out if you have too much speed,

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying that you're eliminating a lot of the hole. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And not only is the place where the ball is.

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<v Speaker 3>Going not only if you don't have the proper If

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have the speed that's based upon your reed,

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<v Speaker 3>then you can't hit the putt appropriately. So one of

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<v Speaker 3>the aspects of speed that's really important, which is very

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<v Speaker 3>profound to me, and once I started looking at it,

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<v Speaker 3>was my first component of after I've hit a putt,

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<v Speaker 3>in analyzing the putt that I hit or or evaluating

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<v Speaker 3>the putt I hit, is that I have the right speed.

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<v Speaker 3>That's more almost more sportant to me than the line,

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<v Speaker 3>because what I want to reduce for everybody, and especially

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<v Speaker 3>the higher handicap golfers, but even golf pros, we want

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<v Speaker 3>to eliminate three putts. So really, really, for most people,

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<v Speaker 3>their problem isn't that they misread the putt by ten feet.

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<v Speaker 3>They just mishit it by five feet, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. So generally our speed is as a big

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<v Speaker 3>a factor. I mean, the chance of having a putt

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<v Speaker 3>that breaks three to five feet is less often than

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<v Speaker 3>a putt that maybe break eight to twelve inches that

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<v Speaker 3>we just had the wrong speed on. So speed becomes

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<v Speaker 3>a much more a very important component of becoming effective

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<v Speaker 3>at putting, or become what I call functional.

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<v Speaker 1>When I play over at the nine hole course down

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<v Speaker 1>the road, here, which we've talked about before at McGinnis,

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<v Speaker 1>and you teach there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I play with somebody who's new to the game

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<v Speaker 1>or has been playing long. I always love to ask them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on putting, what is more important? Speed or

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<v Speaker 1>distance or direction?

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<v Speaker 3>Speed or direction? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Distance or direction? Yeah, And they're like, oh, direction, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really important. It's like, yeah, well, let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>show you something here. And so you just hit a

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<v Speaker 1>ball right at the hole but goes eight feet past

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<v Speaker 1>or you hit a ball at the exact right speed

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<v Speaker 1>but it's twelve inches wide. I'd much rather have that

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<v Speaker 1>one correct.

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<v Speaker 3>And and you know, it's I think it's part of

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<v Speaker 3>the bigger thing is people because if their first thing

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<v Speaker 3>is hitting the ball and they just can't get it

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<v Speaker 3>to go where they want. But most people, if I

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<v Speaker 3>hand them a potter and say here's a twenty foot

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<v Speaker 3>pot I can kind of get them within a few

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<v Speaker 3>seconds to get that ball moving towards the target within

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<v Speaker 3>within some sort of efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing that they have, over a period of time,

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<v Speaker 3>they have a tough thing of doing is getting their

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<v Speaker 3>speed consistent. And that's a challenge that's a hard thing

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<v Speaker 3>to Yeah. So so the first part is stagg is speed,

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<v Speaker 3>and the next part is two feet and straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, tell me that means well.

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<v Speaker 3>Two feet and straight is is you've seen. You might

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<v Speaker 3>have seen this now with a lot of PGA Tour players.

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<v Speaker 3>But again it's this relationship to the target concept that

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<v Speaker 3>I like to share with people. If you put a

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<v Speaker 3>line on your ball, and if I if I hit

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<v Speaker 3>that ball, if I put that line directly at the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the apex of the ball, which is directly

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<v Speaker 3>on the line I want to hit it. If the

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<v Speaker 3>green is relatively smooth and I make good contact in

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<v Speaker 3>the direction that line is going, the ball will roll

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<v Speaker 3>end over end and I'll see it. I'll see a

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<v Speaker 3>direct line that's going end over end. If I've made

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<v Speaker 3>a stroke where the ball is wobbly, if I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>made solid contact, if my face doesn't match up to

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<v Speaker 3>where my intention of that line is, then I'll see

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<v Speaker 3>a wobbly line. So what I want to do is

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure that my student make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that ball is rolling end over end towards his intended target.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's doing that, then there's a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 3>efficiency lack of side spin with that club face in

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<v Speaker 3>the target, and that's kind of what I'm after. All

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<v Speaker 3>good putters do that very effectively. One of the drills

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<v Speaker 3>I have that you'll see during this that I could

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<v Speaker 3>show I show my students is I actually have them

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<v Speaker 3>put off a three foot steel ruler, right okay, And

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<v Speaker 3>I usually make it only two feet. I give him

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<v Speaker 3>a foot behind the ball, and I give them two

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<v Speaker 3>feet extending out with the line in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>that ruler on the ball, so that when they hit it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to roll off that ruler and go straight

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<v Speaker 3>for two feet. Because the in the end, I believe

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<v Speaker 3>that every put in golf is straight.

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<v Speaker 1>When it leaves the club face.

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<v Speaker 3>No, every putt is straight. Gravity pulls it. I don't. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>So I plan to hit every put straight and I

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<v Speaker 3>and I let gravity take care of itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where the break is, right, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where gravity and friction could be. Could be some

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<v Speaker 3>grain involved, but either gravity or grain or wind could

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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit of wind involved less less often

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<v Speaker 3>on that issue. But I let the break happen. I

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<v Speaker 3>hit it on a point that I have predetermined, and

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<v Speaker 3>I hit it straight, and I let those things happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's most people see it in straight lines. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't see in curve lines. Most people see, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>in that sort of dimension more effectively. So I find

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<v Speaker 3>that if I can get a putt a student to

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<v Speaker 3>hit a putt two feet and straight, then from a

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<v Speaker 3>from a mechanical standpoint, he's on track right and and

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<v Speaker 3>and could we always improve our efficiency of our putt.

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<v Speaker 3>I can put you on a SAM putt lab, I

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<v Speaker 3>can put you on some other technology out there and

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<v Speaker 3>probably find that, yeah, it could be slightly better. And

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<v Speaker 3>that involves a lot of different variables in the stroke,

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<v Speaker 3>the pace, in the time of your stroke, the distance,

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<v Speaker 3>the speed of which you go back and forwards, the

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<v Speaker 3>consistency of that, all these other things. But primarily, if

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<v Speaker 3>a putt, if a guys are women, young men, old men,

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<v Speaker 3>all whatever a golfer is getting that ball to roll

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<v Speaker 3>end over end, then we're on the right track and

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<v Speaker 3>we don't need to spend too much time there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Two feet and straight is a double combo. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>it sort of solves, it's sort of a it's sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a thermometer or or sort of a check for

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<v Speaker 3>his mechanical aptitude abilities to hit the putt. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>A also helping me define, helping them see it's more

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<v Speaker 3>simple to hit a putt just straight and let the

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to get back to G and stag.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're up to A and now A is for

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<v Speaker 3>aim right now. The fact is that it's our relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>The target is often determined by our aim. But I

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<v Speaker 3>have seen over the years all sorts of odd aiming

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<v Speaker 3>with their body. I've seen guys stand more open. I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen great putters Bobby Locke stand to look closed and

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<v Speaker 1>When you say open and close, you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Body alignment, right. But but the one thing that's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>tried and true is face alignment to the intended target. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 3>which I always thought was the best putters will be

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<v Speaker 3>best aligned with their club face. Well, the truth is

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<v Speaker 3>to their line, their intended line, but by impact time

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<v Speaker 3>they are perfect. Okay, But my contention is that if

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the basic truth with every club in your hand,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as the club face is square at impact,

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<v Speaker 1>correct at impact.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we're also talking with standardizing the address position,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's primarily what I'm doing here with the aim.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't worry too much about the aim when the

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<v Speaker 3>impact is taking care of what this ball rolling end

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<v Speaker 3>over end okay to my intended life. So I can

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<v Speaker 3>get a guy. Oftentimes I'll get it like a higher

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<v Speaker 3>you know, low handicapped tour type player, college whatever, really

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<v Speaker 3>good amateur, and I'll say, hey, get this ball to

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<v Speaker 3>roll end e rent, and he'll roll it end over it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we go to the aiming point and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>find that at four feet he's aimed half an inch.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll outside the cup on a straight pot. Well, how

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<v Speaker 3>does that happen? Guess what? The brain's smarter than what

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<v Speaker 3>we you know, our brain's out smartness. You know, our

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<v Speaker 3>visual acuity system is working in a in a dimension

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<v Speaker 3>that we don't fully understand. And that's okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but I find that if I can improve upon that,

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<v Speaker 3>then it becomes more simple because he's making some compensation.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's starting with an open club face and getting

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<v Speaker 3>him back to square. Then he's making some compensation in

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<v Speaker 3>his stroke that's not as simple. He's making his his

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<v Speaker 3>want to make their stroke more less complicated by starting

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<v Speaker 3>off with a face that is lined up to their

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<v Speaker 3>intended line. And if we can do that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>show them to do that with simply with a sharpieon

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<v Speaker 3>a credit card, like I showed you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, explain that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what I do is, I like sometimes I can

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<v Speaker 3>eliminate the credit card, but the credit card kind of helps.

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<v Speaker 3>If if I get you, I have you line up

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<v Speaker 3>without any without any aids on the ball. I get

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<v Speaker 3>you to line up at a spot, say four feet

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<v Speaker 3>away or five feet away, and when you're lined up,

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<v Speaker 3>I remove the ball and I put a I put

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<v Speaker 3>a I put a credit card up against the face

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<v Speaker 3>of your putter. I have you pull away your putter,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I draw a straight line across that credit

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<v Speaker 3>card where your face was. And then I draw a

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<v Speaker 3>ninety degree angle across that credit card. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>extend that line with the other aspect which we which

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't really talked about, which is a line that

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<v Speaker 3>I have above the ball that extends out to about

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<v Speaker 1>And it's about a string.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a string that's that's on some knitting needles. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's a spongy string that extends on a straight line.

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<v Speaker 3>And I and I show you that line out to

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<v Speaker 3>the hole at ten feet with the ruler underneath it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can move that line over and show them

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<v Speaker 3>very quickly if I extend the I've now made a

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<v Speaker 3>ninety degree angle to that credit card line I made

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<v Speaker 3>with the sharpie on the green, and I've now made

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<v Speaker 3>a ninety degree angle. And if that angle is not

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<v Speaker 3>pointing towards the t four feet away, then we know

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<v Speaker 3>you haven't lined up directly to your club face. And

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<v Speaker 3>most people, I think, even you, who lined up pretty good,

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<v Speaker 3>we're about a half an inch off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that that's a really really important.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're a very good at line's. That's a good number, by.

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<v Speaker 1>The way, Well, thank you. Well, I've always marked the

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<v Speaker 1>line around my ball, and I've always tried to line

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<v Speaker 1>that up right, you know, with my target line. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when I address the ball now I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be exactly my feet, my body, everything ninety degree perpendicular

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<v Speaker 1>to that line.

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<v Speaker 3>And you see that way by the way, just a

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<v Speaker 3>little footnote, not everybody sees parallel lines like effectively. So

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<v Speaker 3>so Jack Nicholas used to line up a little open

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<v Speaker 3>with the ball in front. He's left eye dominated. If

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<v Speaker 3>I was to as a little drill that I do

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<v Speaker 3>at ten feet or twelve feet, We're all take a

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<v Speaker 3>dime and two dimes, and have you line up over

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<v Speaker 3>one dime and tell me when I'm lined up, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I put a I stand about two thirds of

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<v Speaker 3>the way out there, and I put a dime in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of it, and I go, is that dime

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<v Speaker 3>on a straight line to your target? That what you see?

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<v Speaker 3>And they say yes, And then they stand back and

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<v Speaker 3>look at it, and that dimes two feet right or

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<v Speaker 3>I mean two inches right of their line because they're lying.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't often see in effective straight lines. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't often see effectively as they think they are seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>So what they actually see and what's actual reality aren't

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<v Speaker 3>often the same. But what you've done, and by putting

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<v Speaker 3>a straight line on the ball and using the string

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<v Speaker 3>drill and using the ruler, you can kind of retrain

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<v Speaker 3>yourself to see lines that are our actual straight lines

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<v Speaker 3>and it's such a.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, a critically important drill to do for yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I mean, it blows my mind that

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<v Speaker 1>people don't even stand behind the ball to make it.

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<v Speaker 1>They just step up to the ball and think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're lining it up. And then then then I fall

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<v Speaker 1>up with their shoulders and like, okay, yeah, I'm lined up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, I was standing behind you when

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<v Speaker 1>you were trying to do that. Right, You're about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two degrees away from what you're really aiming at,

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<v Speaker 1>but you think you're there.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you know, keep in mind that our brains has

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<v Speaker 3>the optical system is an amazing and I've only touched

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit on the surface of my research lately.

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<v Speaker 3>But when we stand behind the put, we're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>it with our eyes hopefully level to the terrain, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's how we're taught to see depth, perception and things.

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<v Speaker 3>But then all of sudden we get up the ball

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<v Speaker 3>and now we're looking sideways. And then finally when we

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<v Speaker 3>look at the ball, we're not even looking at the target, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So what are we looking at and what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>And so having these aids and training ourselves to do

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<v Speaker 3>this is you'll see golf pros doing this all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>That again, these are one of the things I learned

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<v Speaker 3>as kid. Why why do guys put chalk line on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground all the time When I was a kid, Gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>they had this chalk line out there. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>things I did is spent I spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>kid as a young man. And one thing I would

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<v Speaker 3>do is I'd kind of line up. I'd put my

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<v Speaker 3>end up against the wall, and I'd drop a ball

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<v Speaker 3>underneath my left eye, and I'd mark that spot, and

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<v Speaker 3>i'd measure that spot from as a distance from the wall,

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<v Speaker 3>and then i'd measure that distance down ten twelve feet away,

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<v Speaker 3>and then i'd put a ball, and I'd put two

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<v Speaker 3>coins down there, or a ball marker or something, and

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<v Speaker 3>I are teas or something, and I would put. I

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<v Speaker 3>would put my ball where I'd drop the ball underneath

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<v Speaker 3>my eye, and then i'd put and so my body

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<v Speaker 3>both both cheeks would be touching the wall, So now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm parallel and then I'd have it over that ball,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd train my body to be parallel to my

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<v Speaker 3>target and to see that line parallel to me and

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<v Speaker 3>what it feels like and what it feels like to

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<v Speaker 3>be in that moment. Again, golf is just a golf,

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<v Speaker 3>is not around a golf. It's a collection of moments

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<v Speaker 3>that equal around. So the quality of those moments equal

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<v Speaker 3>the quality of the round. So how can I enhance

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<v Speaker 3>the quality of that moment? Again, it's the relationship to

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<v Speaker 3>my target. And again STAG is just a constant evolution

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<v Speaker 3>of developing and of developing the quality of that relationship

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<v Speaker 3>to that target in that moment. And keep in mind

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<v Speaker 3>that we're playing this on a big piece of property

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<v Speaker 3>where elevation changes and the light changes over the course

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<v Speaker 3>of the day, and the weather changes, and all these

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<v Speaker 3>things are constantly changing, and so it's a challenge to

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<v Speaker 3>be constantly re evaluating my relationship to a target in

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<v Speaker 3>spatial terms. And the air at one hundred and fifty yards,

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<v Speaker 3>it's acceptable to hit it ten feet long or left,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not acceptable to hit at ten inches right.

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<v Speaker 3>At twenty feet it greatly affects my round, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>or even at five feet to be five inches right

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<v Speaker 3>or three inches right or a half inch right. If

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have the right speed, I get to use

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the whole four to quarter inches basically

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<v Speaker 3>is I think a diameter of a hole. I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 3>real quicker it's but right along that four point twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five is the width the behole, and I get to

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<v Speaker 3>use if I have the right speed, I get to

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<v Speaker 3>use all of that. Right, So all these factors again,

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<v Speaker 3>speed two feet in stea right, aiming four point four

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<v Speaker 3>point twenty five, So I get to use all of

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<v Speaker 3>that hole, right, And that's my that's my objective. What

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<v Speaker 3>can I what can I maximize in this moment to

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? That's all I'm trying to do. And now we

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<v Speaker 3>get to green reading.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we get to the critically important element of

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<v Speaker 1>this right and this is no green is flat? People

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<v Speaker 1>think though it's a straight putt, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, No sen Why aren't Why aren't fred Why aren't

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<v Speaker 3>all greens flat? Irrigation correct? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you can't have standing water on the green it'll die,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll die, A and B people won't come up if

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<v Speaker 1>it's raining I mean because we have a glass here,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a course out here, a stone tree that

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<v Speaker 1>drains incredibly well. It could rain for three weeks straight

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<v Speaker 1>and it stops on Monday Tuesday. You can go out

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<v Speaker 1>and play. You'll be stepping a lot of mud, but

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<v Speaker 1>the greens will be in phenomenal shape.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now. Again, the fairways too that they've done a

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<v Speaker 3>good job. But soil also helps with that too. They

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<v Speaker 3>drainage there, and that's important. So we know that's a

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<v Speaker 3>good tip. Okay, so let's look at green reading. What's

426
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<v Speaker 3>the old fashioned way right?

427
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<v Speaker 1>Plumb?

428
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<v Speaker 3>Well, how about this? Where's the where's the water around here? Oh?

429
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<v Speaker 1>Right?

430
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<v Speaker 3>Where everything breaks to the water, Everything breaks to the

431
00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:22.079
<v Speaker 3>wash and they break the ocean everything breaks to Why

432
00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.039
<v Speaker 3>do when you're in Palm Springs? Why do they say

433
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<v Speaker 3>everything breaks towards Indio.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Because there's a gigantic lake there.

435
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh it's.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Uh called the Pacific Ocean.

437
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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, well it was just called the Gulf

438
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<v Speaker 3>of Mexico one time. It then became the Salt and

439
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<v Speaker 3>Sea at some point a million years ago Uh used

440
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<v Speaker 3>to be a great fishing place for cravina for people

441
00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:43.200
<v Speaker 3>that are into sport fishing, not not so much as

442
00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:45.759
<v Speaker 3>salt water fish. So is it so sort of a

443
00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:49.279
<v Speaker 3>landlocked sea. But that's a body of water. So guess

444
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<v Speaker 3>what when as time over history water receded, it was

445
00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:54.160
<v Speaker 3>going towards the Gulf of Mexico. It stopped at some

446
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<v Speaker 3>point because that was a little lower point. So things

447
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<v Speaker 3>go that way. That's why they say Indio, which is

448
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<v Speaker 3>an entirely correct, but that's why they're saying India.

449
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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and I don't always buy when when they

450
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<v Speaker 1>when they you know, the starter tells you, okay, everything

451
00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:08.759
<v Speaker 1>breaks towards that mountaintop over there, and it's.

452
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<v Speaker 3>Like away from that mountain top.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, they'll tell you it breaks towards the mountains.

454
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, there's courses of course they'll do.

455
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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I'll look at each well.

456
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<v Speaker 3>And that was okay, And why is that so from historically?

457
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<v Speaker 3>We you know, in the old days, they kind of said, okay,

458
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<v Speaker 3>we're going to do a routing around this golf course.

459
00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:25.920
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna build a golf course, and we're going to

460
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<v Speaker 3>move the least amount of dirt to make save the

461
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<v Speaker 3>most amount of money and the and the technology. I mean,

462
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<v Speaker 3>you know, you go over and play a course like

463
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<v Speaker 3>Mona kay uh uh or which was built Robert I

464
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<v Speaker 3>think it's a Robert Trent Jones facility built in the twenties,

465
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<v Speaker 3>and you go, wow, what a golf course, right, And

466
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<v Speaker 3>and you know, you look at these pictures and they

467
00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:49.200
<v Speaker 3>were moving it with horses and and and you know

468
00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:52.880
<v Speaker 3>they had donkeys and horses with these things attached to

469
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<v Speaker 3>the back and that's how they move the dirt around.

470
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<v Speaker 3>So so we're gonna let gravity do its own thing here.

471
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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna work within that, you know, really and truthfully,

472
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<v Speaker 3>you know, the quality of the golf course is almost

473
00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:07.480
<v Speaker 3>has a good relationship the quality of ground that God

474
00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:10.440
<v Speaker 3>gave you to build it. But uh and and usually

475
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<v Speaker 3>the golf course architects objective is not to ruin that,

476
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<v Speaker 3>you know. But but but still, the the old concept

477
00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:21.279
<v Speaker 3>of moving designing greens is what are we working with

478
00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:24.480
<v Speaker 3>gravity already here? Right? So? And and then also how

479
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<v Speaker 3>do we speed up play and make golf a easier

480
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.079
<v Speaker 3>game to play? We slant the greens from back to front.

481
00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:33.279
<v Speaker 3>So there's another little trick right. So in the old days,

482
00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:35.640
<v Speaker 3>howard greens built, they were off and often built from

483
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<v Speaker 3>back to sloping from back to front, because we don't

484
00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:39.440
<v Speaker 3>want the green balls to run over the green. We're

485
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<v Speaker 3>gonna run up the green and stop right. So so

486
00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:46.039
<v Speaker 3>that's that was the old way. Water gravity, What did

487
00:22:46.039 --> 00:22:47.599
<v Speaker 3>God give us to deal with here? What was the

488
00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:50.039
<v Speaker 3>national landscape? What was all that stuff? So that was

489
00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:53.279
<v Speaker 3>the simple way. Then came along the evolution of higher

490
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<v Speaker 3>technology of machinery being moved around the world to build

491
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<v Speaker 3>golf courses, the the the advanced technology of you know,

492
00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:05.440
<v Speaker 3>plotting golf courses using all sorts of technology out there,

493
00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.839
<v Speaker 3>and so they could kind of defy you know, you

494
00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:12.440
<v Speaker 3>could go to Lott's Berry Farm when I was a kid,

495
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:14.640
<v Speaker 3>would you know, show you am I uphill or am

496
00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:17.359
<v Speaker 3>I downhill? Here? Right? And you'd say, well, I'm uphill.

497
00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Now the car's going the other way or whatever, water's

498
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:22.960
<v Speaker 3>going the other way. So now the trick was, and

499
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<v Speaker 3>I started playing golf a lot in the seventies and eighties.

500
00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:27.559
<v Speaker 3>You go around the golf course and they'd have these

501
00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.000
<v Speaker 3>little drains around the golf course, around the sides of

502
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:31.720
<v Speaker 3>the green. You go, where's that drain over there. So

503
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:34.880
<v Speaker 3>not all greens. They might be sloping up in the front,

504
00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:36.759
<v Speaker 3>but in the back they might slope away from you.

505
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<v Speaker 3>So now it's a little more difficult to read a green. Right,

506
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<v Speaker 3>So what I mentioned is a key word there is

507
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<v Speaker 3>slope and I mentioned some other words of gravity. Right,

508
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<v Speaker 3>So where is this ball pulling? What is a ball

509
00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:54.880
<v Speaker 3>doing on the green? It's rolling from one point to

510
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<v Speaker 3>another in time? And how much time does it take?

511
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<v Speaker 3>That's the ultimate question. How much time does it take?

512
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<v Speaker 3>And at what slope is it? There's going to be

513
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<v Speaker 3>a slope involved, and there's gonna be amount of time

514
00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:13.599
<v Speaker 3>and that time is usually friction, which is slope, and

515
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:17.920
<v Speaker 3>maybe the other ingredient here. What's the speed of the green?

516
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<v Speaker 3>How does it roll? People talk about stimp, which I'm

517
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<v Speaker 3>not sure if most people could actually tell you what

518
00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.759
<v Speaker 3>a stimp meter is, but it's out there, right, And

519
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:29.359
<v Speaker 3>that's a good way that the USGA will determine speed.

520
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<v Speaker 3>If green stimp really is just a level with a

521
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:33.240
<v Speaker 3>ball attached to it. They raise it up at a

522
00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:35.400
<v Speaker 3>certain height. Then when the ball rolls off, how far

523
00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:36.759
<v Speaker 3>does it roll on a level surface?

524
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<v Speaker 1>So, and I've told you my own personal stamp meter, right,

525
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<v Speaker 1>how I do this?

526
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<v Speaker 3>No?

527
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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So, and I think it was in Zen Golf

528
00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>from doctor Joseph parent. What I do is, I'll take

529
00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>three balls. I'll go to the practice putting green, and

530
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<v Speaker 1>the first three strokes I take, I don't look at

531
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<v Speaker 1>any hole, I don't look at anything. I have three

532
00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:58.519
<v Speaker 1>balls right in front of me, and I'll just take

533
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 1>my normal swing. And generally, if all goes well, i'll

534
00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>take the normal swing. All three of those balls will

535
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<v Speaker 1>be very close to one another, if not touching one another.

536
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll walk that off, okay, and then I'll know, okay,

537
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:16.759
<v Speaker 1>that stroke on this course, that's that's four steps, okay,

538
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 1>that's your stint for the good. That's my step for

539
00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:20.079
<v Speaker 1>the day, so I know what its.

540
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<v Speaker 3>Somehow we did and then a level lie by the

541
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<v Speaker 3>way fairly.

542
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm looking for the level lie. And then

543
00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it'll be six steps. Okay, So this green is

544
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>a little bit faster than I'm used to. Right, So,

545
00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>my own personal STEMP met without having to ask anybody,

546
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.119
<v Speaker 1>it makes no sense to me.

547
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:34.599
<v Speaker 3>And I would fool around with that a little bit

548
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<v Speaker 3>because keep in mind that almost all greens aren't level

549
00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:39.200
<v Speaker 3>right right, So we're usually and so this is where

550
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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get back to the green reading again,

551
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:43.240
<v Speaker 3>which is, you know, there's two theories out there. There's

552
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<v Speaker 3>there's the aim point and there is the vector and

553
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:50.720
<v Speaker 3>and uh and both involved this these equations of time

554
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:53.920
<v Speaker 3>and speed and ball travel over green which involves slope

555
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:56.839
<v Speaker 3>and friction which is the speed of the green the

556
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<v Speaker 3>stint reading. And so what what I found I found vector,

557
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 3>which I showed with you, is that they kind of

558
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:08.079
<v Speaker 3>divide it up into slow, medium, fast, and super fast,

559
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.160
<v Speaker 3>the quality of the greens, the speed of the green,

560
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:14.480
<v Speaker 3>speed of the greens, where I think game point has

561
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 3>actual stimp readings. Now they both both systems give you

562
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 3>a way to kind of determine what the speed of

563
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.319
<v Speaker 3>the green is. And both involve hitting a putt at

564
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 3>ninety degrees to the to the to the actual straight

565
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 3>line of the slope on that green. And so if

566
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<v Speaker 3>if I hit, if I hit, let's say I'm five

567
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:35.160
<v Speaker 3>feet and I hit a putt at the center of

568
00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:38.039
<v Speaker 3>the hole and it breaks five inches below the cup,

569
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 3>that might be an eight stemp. If it breaks seven inches,

570
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.200
<v Speaker 3>that might be a nine stemp. If it breaks ten inches,

571
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 3>that might be a ten stemp, whereas vector might say

572
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.119
<v Speaker 3>if it breaks only five inches, that's slow, or four

573
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.319
<v Speaker 3>inches that's slow. If it breaks five inches or six inches.

574
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<v Speaker 3>And that's assuming that I don't hit a putt that

575
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.839
<v Speaker 3>goes twelve inches past the cup. So in order to

576
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<v Speaker 3>do this, I've got to get the putt to aim

577
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:02.519
<v Speaker 3>at the center. I got to start the ball at

578
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 3>the center of the cup and have it break only

579
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:08.640
<v Speaker 3>a certain amount in that five feet right, And I

580
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 3>keep in mind, I'm on, I'm on the I'm on

581
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:13.279
<v Speaker 3>the ninety degree angle to the slope line of the putt.

582
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense to you.

583
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's break that down a little bit more so

584
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 1>it does make.

585
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Sense, okay. So just let's say let's say north is

586
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 3>due north is my is my straight line putt.

587
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>So that's the what you call the fall line.

588
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Call that the fall line. Call that the straight line.

589
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 1>So if you were standing at that spot and just

590
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>drop the ball and let it go, it would go

591
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>right towards the hole.

592
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 3>That's and assuming the hole is on my fall line,

593
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 3>we can use the hole on the font. In this case,

594
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 3>we don't even need a hole to find the speed.

595
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:42.200
<v Speaker 3>But let's say the hole is there. We put a

596
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 3>hole there, and that's my fall line for this putt.

597
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.400
<v Speaker 3>That's getting a little ahead of this conversation. But that's fine.

598
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, that's okay. No, it's good. It's good. But

599
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:50.519
<v Speaker 3>it is part of the process. So if I'm just

600
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:52.680
<v Speaker 3>doing speed, I don't need a hole there. But it

601
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 3>would just be a straight put that roll the ball

602
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 3>rolls straight along that line. And let's say it rolls

603
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:00.079
<v Speaker 3>straight from north to south. Let's say that is a

604
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 3>straight line on this putt. Then due east and due

605
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 3>west would be ninety degrees to that fall line. So

606
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>if I if I dropped a ball five feet from

607
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 3>that fall line, that straight line, and putted it at

608
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.599
<v Speaker 3>the center of that that ninety gree angle, and it

609
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 3>broke only four or five inches, then that might be

610
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 3>a slow green. If it broke seven or eight inches,

611
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 3>that might be a medium spreed green. If that broke,

612
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 3>say ten or eleven inches, and it doesn't roll more

613
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.240
<v Speaker 3>than it gets to the hole, but it doesn't roll

614
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.240
<v Speaker 3>more than twelve inches past the cup, then there's there's

615
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.200
<v Speaker 3>some free wheeling here. But within within a distant within

616
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:34.960
<v Speaker 3>a way, I can arrive at what the speed of

617
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.319
<v Speaker 3>this green is or the speed of this at least

618
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:39.480
<v Speaker 3>this putting green, and apply that to the rest of

619
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<v Speaker 3>the golf course.

620
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, because here's the issue with that, right, You

621
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 1>can't walk up to a green while you're playing and

622
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>go I need to I need to drop a couple

623
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>balls here to see what this line and then right.

624
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 3>But but we do need we do need this information

625
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 3>to use these mathematical algorithms which I'm going to get

626
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 3>into here in a second, to give our green readings

627
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:03.200
<v Speaker 3>some sustenance. Right, what you gave is a very personal

628
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.200
<v Speaker 3>relationship which I highly admire, and I actually teach a

629
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>very similar system to help a player arrive at how

630
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 3>hard he should hit each putt. So, given what my

631
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 3>I usually use, my feed is my barometer, and what

632
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:17.480
<v Speaker 3>my given stance is my comfortable stance. And if I

633
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 3>take a putter outside of the back of my right

634
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 3>foot and take it that same distance through, how far

635
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 3>does my ball roll? So I know if that ball

636
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 3>roll is fifteen feet, that's my fifteen foot putt for

637
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 3>the day.

638
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, a subtlety that I hadn't even thought of.

639
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 1>That makes total sense.

640
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So that's how I help my students relate to

641
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.359
<v Speaker 3>their speed for that golf course for the day. But

642
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 3>now we're getting into the green reading, which is an

643
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>important factor because in the green reading again, we're talking

644
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 3>about three major areas. What's the speed of my putt

645
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and what's the slope of my putt? Right? And if

646
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 3>there's any subtle grain might be another issue to this putt,

647
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 3>and like maybe even when again is a more remote issue.

648
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 3>But these are the issues that I'm going to deal

649
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:58.359
<v Speaker 3>with in hitting my putt right speed right again, We're

650
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 3>gonna talk about am am I efficiently aiming? Am I

651
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 3>efficiently making a ball to roll end over end two feet?

652
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.079
<v Speaker 3>And straights? AM efficiently aiming? Now? How do I read

653
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.319
<v Speaker 3>the green? So how do I read the green? Is

654
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:13.319
<v Speaker 3>as I decide what the what the speed of this

655
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 3>green is? Slow? Medium, or fast or super fast? And

656
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:18.599
<v Speaker 3>then I look at my little chart which I have.

657
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 3>But what I did for you is I broke it

658
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:22.559
<v Speaker 3>down in which I do for all my beginning students,

659
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 3>that even my advanced students, I give them the most

660
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 3>basic principle. We assume that all greens are two degrees

661
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 3>two degrees of slow of slope, Okay, which quite frankly

662
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.400
<v Speaker 3>is probably true, okay, on an average, but.

663
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.279
<v Speaker 1>What and then and so wait to the whole two

664
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<v Speaker 1>degrees around two degrees? Yes, I know when you have

665
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>multi level greens.

666
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm looking at the hole. I'm standing around the cup,

667
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 3>because keep in mind, the last ten feet of my

668
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.200
<v Speaker 3>cup are the most important. Last ten feet of my

669
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.359
<v Speaker 3>putt are the most important aspects, or five feet in

670
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 3>my putt if anyway, Yeah, as the ball slows down,

671
00:30:57.279 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 3>that's when gravity has its bigger effect. So when I

672
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 3>got a foot pot, the first fifteen or twenty feet

673
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 3>of that are important, but not as a massively important

674
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 3>to the to the slope. The most important areas that

675
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 3>sloping area around the whole. Right, So for the intents

676
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 3>and purposes I do did with you this day was

677
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 3>I said, we're going to assume today that every put

678
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 3>you hit today has a two degree slope to it,

679
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 3>not two degrees two percent. So we're gonna assume that

680
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 3>everything's two percent. And if I do that on a

681
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.720
<v Speaker 3>medium speed green, then for every foot that I put,

682
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 3>there's going to be one inch of break up to

683
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 3>about twenty five feet.

684
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Repeat it.

685
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 3>If I assume that there's two percent slope on this putt.

686
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>On every putt that I hit, one inch of break

687
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 3>equals one foot of putt. So if I have a

688
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty foot put depending on what where, and depending on

689
00:31:55.720 --> 00:32:00.279
<v Speaker 3>my relationship to that fall line or that straight line,

690
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 3>then I'm going to have twenty inches of an aim

691
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 3>point differential. So what that means is I place my

692
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 3>aim point twenty inches above the hole, and then I

693
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I find that I put my my aim and maybe

694
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't be using aim point but target, my aim target,

695
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 3>my my my point of reference, my definition destination. I

696
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 3>set that twenty inches above the hole from a twenty

697
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 3>foot putt, and then I'm wherever I move around that

698
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 3>cup within twenty feet, that's going to be my constant

699
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:44.640
<v Speaker 3>aiming on my aiming target. Right, So every put I'm

700
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 3>going to hit it straight.

701
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 1>To that spot, to that spot.

702
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 3>Let gravity take it. If I have a ten foot putt,

703
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:56.920
<v Speaker 3>it's ten inches. Now if the green is fast rather

704
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 3>than medium. I have a chart that will show you

705
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 3>what that actual point of reference might be that's on

706
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 3>that fall line, and it's always going to be above

707
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 3>the hole, by the way, right, So that point never

708
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 3>changes in space. It always stays above the hole.

709
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Can I have the chart?

710
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

711
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Is it online?

712
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 3>No? Come see John Grund or come see a vector

713
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 3>green reading instructor near you. There are many out there.

714
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>So there's no PDF or something that's the chart that

715
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>we can.

716
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Not right now online they asked. They asked you to

717
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 3>go to see a aime point specialist. I'm a vectory

718
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 3>green reading specialist to get this. You and I might

719
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.759
<v Speaker 3>have a relationship with this could be worked out.

720
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't want to be I don't. I

721
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>would love to get You've already.

722
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Done a thirty minute session and we talked about it briefly.

723
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 3>But get into the chart.

724
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 1>No, no, we didn't. But but just that information alone

725
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>about the one inch per one foot, Yeah, it was

726
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a huge help for me.

727
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, because because here's what I did for you

728
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.400
<v Speaker 3>in that thirty minutes, and let's sum this up real briefly.

729
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Is I established for you the four basic areas that

730
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:09.880
<v Speaker 3>every good putter does effectively. One, they establish the proper

731
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:13.599
<v Speaker 3>speed for in time that they want the ball to roll.

732
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 3>This is important to think about speed and time because

733
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 3>if I have a ball below the hole that's twenty

734
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 3>feet and the ball that's above the hole twenty feet

735
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 3>and we both putt at the same time. Whose ball

736
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:23.880
<v Speaker 3>gets to the hole first.

737
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Ball below the ball and ball above the hole at

738
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty feet I would And if they both get to

739
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>the hole, yes, I would say the guy going uphill

740
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>because he has to hit it harder.

741
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely correct. You're one out of a hundred that will

742
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.440
<v Speaker 3>say that. But that's absolutely true.

743
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>So you think the tragical thing is to go, oh, well,

744
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 1>one going downhill, because it's right.

745
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 3>So keep in mind, and these algorithms are based upon

746
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.159
<v Speaker 3>the time at which the ball travels.

747
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>And anybody ever think about, oh, that took seven seconds.

748
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 3>All great putters do, really, but they do it in

749
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 3>their brain.

750
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>They don't. It's not conscious. It's just that.

751
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 3>They It's like I, you know, I once gave a

752
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:02.679
<v Speaker 3>lesson putting lesson to Jerry West.

753
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

754
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I was the assistant golf coach at UCLA,

755
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 3>which it required me being assistant pro at Beller Country Club,

756
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 3>and so he he had we'd played once or twice before,

757
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 3>and he knew that I was a pretty good putter.

758
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:15.679
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, he was a very good player,

759
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 3>especially in his younger days, and rapidly took to golf

760
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 3>after finishing his professional basketball career as a player full time,

761
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:26.480
<v Speaker 3>which is a footnote. Let me just because I hung

762
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:28.599
<v Speaker 3>around a lot of Laker guys in those days, and

763
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:31.079
<v Speaker 3>nobody wanted to play Jerry West at the age of

764
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.039
<v Speaker 3>fifteen Horse. I don't care who you were. I don't

765
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 3>care if you were Magic Johnson. You just didn't play

766
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Jerry West at Horse. He'd beat you.

767
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Well he was, mister, he was.

768
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 3>He was also a very good golfer and a really

769
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 3>good putter, but he was struggling with some putty for

770
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 3>some reason. So he comes out to see me for

771
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 3>a putty lesson, and I'm thinking, I'm panicked. What am

772
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.119
<v Speaker 3>I going to call Jerry West for pudding? I mean,

773
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.519
<v Speaker 3>this guy, you know, he's rock solid, you know. And

774
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 3>so I got thinking about it, and I'm standing there

775
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:58.920
<v Speaker 3>watching this putting stroke and I'm going, well, that that's

776
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.679
<v Speaker 3>that's perfect, that's a great putty stroke. Yeah. But if

777
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.679
<v Speaker 3>they're not going in, I said, well, okay, it's golf. Yeah.

778
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Well I wanted to say that, but that's not that's

779
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>not what you well, that's why chill anybody, you know,

780
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 3>they're they're expecting some help here. So I'm watching him,

781
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 3>and I said, well, mister.

782
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>West, what did you really call him?

783
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Mister West? Yeah? Well yeah, I said, mister West, what

784
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:25.000
<v Speaker 3>do you what do you see? Uh? What do you

785
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 3>what's going on here? And he goes, well, I don't know,

786
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.079
<v Speaker 3>And well, of course he has no idea. One day

787
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I was sitting in his backyard and at a barbecue,

788
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 3>and he was casually shooting baskets one handed while he

789
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 3>was flipping burgers, and he switched about twenty in a

790
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 3>row from a baseline jumper that was slightly behind the basket,

791
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 3>and and and nobody in the family said a darn

792
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 3>thing like that could actually happen. He's like, that was

793
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.599
<v Speaker 3>just auto that was an autopilot all the time, right.

794
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 3>And so I know that what he does is part

795
00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 3>of his innate talent to relate to his target right

796
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.440
<v Speaker 3>a period of time, and and so I asked him,

797
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:04.000
<v Speaker 3>so I'm trying to think, how is he relating to

798
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 3>the target or what's going on? What's going on? So

799
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 3>I finally said, well, what do you see when you

800
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 3>shoot a basket? And he goes, well, you know, I

801
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.840
<v Speaker 3>I sometimes I get a look at the basket. I

802
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 3>just kind of know where it is. I get a

803
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.360
<v Speaker 3>feel for it. I I just you know, and and

804
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe I'm looking, maybe I'm not. Somebody's saying,

805
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.199
<v Speaker 3>I go, well, what do you see when you're making

806
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 3>this plot? He goes, well, I don't know. I said, well,

807
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 3>let's pick out a specific let's see this ball roll.

808
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 3>I said, can you see the ball that? Can you

809
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 3>see the dimples of the ball as they're rolling into

810
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:43.920
<v Speaker 3>the hole. Now that's a tall order. I wouldn't ask normally, guys,

811
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 3>but I'm guessing Jerry West's vision is probably pretty darn good.

812
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 1>He can probably count the dimples.

813
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 3>It's all the revolutions, right, So I'm thinking, so I'm thinking,

814
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, this is good. I got to get him

815
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.480
<v Speaker 3>to so suddenly going okay, let's do that cur plunk

816
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:00.199
<v Speaker 3>KerPlunk ker plunk ker plunk about can you make ten

817
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.360
<v Speaker 3>in a row? And our lesson was done and he said, thanks, John,

818
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 3>that's great, And I never really you know, that was it.

819
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 3>So the question was is visually he I needed to

820
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 3>see him in real time what was going on between

821
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 3>him and the target. So what good putters do is

822
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.840
<v Speaker 3>they see the ball in real time rolling towards their target.

823
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 3>And it's a challenge. It's a challenge, right, right, that's

824
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 3>a challenge. So that's that's a that's a massive So

825
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.480
<v Speaker 3>the speed is is everything right and and be relating

826
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.519
<v Speaker 3>to that speed and real time is part of this

827
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 3>bigger equation in the speed of putting. Wow, right, I

828
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 3>mean it is and so how we do that? You know,

829
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.360
<v Speaker 3>and and it takes you know, if you play a

830
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.119
<v Speaker 3>good round of golf. I know, for me, I'm pretty

831
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 3>emotionally drained after it, you know, especially if it's around

832
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 3>that has a has a gravity to it of some sort,

833
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, in a tournament of some sort, in the

834
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 3>last round maybe or qualifying or something.

835
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean that's a whole nother discussion. But that's

836
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>why that's what makes Sundays, especially a major so difficult,

837
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 1>right because it's just mentally exhausting.

838
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because it's mentally exhausting because they need to they

839
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:11.719
<v Speaker 3>need to. It's very the result is so more the

840
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:15.400
<v Speaker 3>lack of result is such more more tangible, and the

841
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 3>need to stay in the moment becomes much more challenging.

842
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Right Well, listen, uh, I'm testimony. It works for me.

843
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, good, it definitely works for me. I mean, it's fun,

844
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 3>and then you know, practicing this way and then my

845
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 3>little system is fun because it gives me. And you'll

846
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:35.280
<v Speaker 3>see guys. If you go to tour events, you'll see

847
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 3>guys and women and they all use little tools now

848
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 3>to practice with. Whether it's my string above the ball,

849
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.800
<v Speaker 3>the string above the ball, or or a ruler, or

850
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.119
<v Speaker 3>or a chalk line or some other tool. They're using

851
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 3>different tools. Tiger has his gate droll with two t's.

852
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 3>We're all building better relationships to the target. That's what

853
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 3>people do. That's what golf pros do. They better. They're

854
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.519
<v Speaker 3>building better relationship with the target. And it's all involved

855
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 3>with speed, how they're aiming the ball, getting the ball

856
00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>to roll where they wanted to go, and reading the green.

857
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 3>And that's really what STAG is all about. And when

858
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 3>you get involved in those four areas, you will become

859
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:06.280
<v Speaker 3>a better putter. And if I give you the tools

860
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 3>to do that, then I feel like I've accomplished something

861
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:09.599
<v Speaker 3>as a coach and a teacher.

862
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because I know someone who was trained in

863
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>aim point and just fell in love with it, thought

864
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 1>it was awesome, and then a few months later I

865
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be interviewing the guy from am Point Sweeney

866
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.039
<v Speaker 1>and I called him, I said, you did aim point right.

867
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Are you still doing it?

868
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, not so much. It was too much

869
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>work to do it on every putt and taking out

870
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.679
<v Speaker 1>the chart and blah blah blah. Yeah, but this is

871
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing that even with STAG or vector

872
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever we're gonna call this, you don't just figure

873
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>it out once and you're done. You really have to

874
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:52.639
<v Speaker 1>work on this for a while. I mean, you have

875
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 1>to always work on it.

876
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 3>You have to always work on it. And that's why

877
00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 3>I develop STAG is you know, repetition, you know is

878
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 3>at the core of most success stories, you know, I mean,

879
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 3>it just.

880
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Is so practice practice, right.

881
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.480
<v Speaker 3>It gets your ten thousand hour Malcolm, glad, we'll get

882
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 3>your ten thousand hours and whatever. We can all go

883
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 3>down those lists and and so by using this system

884
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.000
<v Speaker 3>and including the green reading in with it, you're always

885
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 3>involving yourself in an aspect of what successful people do

886
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 3>that putt well. And and uh, that's that's a challenge,

887
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:34.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's it's part of the game. And if

888
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:36.400
<v Speaker 3>you neglect it, if you know, if you if you

889
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 3>want to go ostrich on it and put your head

890
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 3>in the sand and say it doesn't exist. Then you're

891
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 3>going to be one of those people that don't get

892
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.920
<v Speaker 3>to play golf to your best ability. And and and

893
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 3>and you know it's interesting if you look at the

894
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 3>demographics of golfers. Guess what we're We're getting a little

895
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.360
<v Speaker 3>bit older. Yes we are okay, and and uh, I

896
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.360
<v Speaker 3>wish we had more kids and more women come into

897
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 3>the game. But we're struggling there and we need to

898
00:41:58.280 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 3>do a better job of it. Of course as golf

899
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 3>perfesstionals and friends that play golf, getting people involved in

900
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:06.800
<v Speaker 3>the game. But you know what, we may not be

901
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 3>able to hit the ball as far. But as a putter,

902
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 3>and I will say this that good putters are physically fit.

903
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.800
<v Speaker 3>And there is a reason why it takes why Tiger

904
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Woods makes twelve footers on the seventy first hole to

905
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:23.159
<v Speaker 3>win major championships because he's better fit. So one of

906
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 3>the tough things to do is when you're really excited

907
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:28.239
<v Speaker 3>and you're really pumped up, is to stay still. And

908
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 3>so being core fit is a good thing. But anybody

909
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.079
<v Speaker 3>can get involved in these four areas, fit or not

910
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.719
<v Speaker 3>fit and become a better putter. And like I said

911
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 3>earlier in this program, the USGA tells you right up front,

912
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 3>it's fifty percent of the game.

913
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

914
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.159
<v Speaker 3>So and really, you know, there's a there's an old

915
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 3>saying a multipude, a multitude of sins can be made

916
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 3>up for with a ten foot made putt, right. I mean,

917
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can do a lot of things between

918
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 3>that tea and green, but if you make a ten

919
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 3>or fifteen footer, all's forgiven, right, and you move on

920
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 3>to the next hole. And quite frankly, and I I

921
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.840
<v Speaker 3>tell some of my competitive kids that that, you know,

922
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:10.480
<v Speaker 3>that par save or bogie save emotionally is maybe more

923
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:12.639
<v Speaker 3>important than that three foot birdy put in a par

924
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 3>five because a lot of times you struggle on a

925
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.559
<v Speaker 3>hole and it becomes not a hole, It just becomes

926
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 3>an odyssey. It becomes Oh, I hit it in the

927
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:22.920
<v Speaker 3>crud and I yacked it out and I got it

928
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:24.360
<v Speaker 3>up in front of the green. I got this tough

929
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:26.039
<v Speaker 3>pitch shot and I, oh, it was so tough, and

930
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 3>I got it up there fifteen feet and I made

931
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 3>the putt.

932
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Ah, you know, it's like pretty sure, was you go ahead?

933
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry that moment, that moment like, oh, now I

934
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 4>can go to the and I got all this burden

935
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 4>lifted off me, and I go to the next hole

936
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 4>and I rip one down the center of the fairway,

937
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 4>and man, we're off and running again.

938
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, I was saying, I think I'm fairly

939
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>certain it was you that told me that hitting sinking

940
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.519
<v Speaker 1>a fifteen foot putt, twenty foot putt or longer is

941
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.280
<v Speaker 1>much more exciting the hitting ball in the fairway or

942
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>hitting it farther than you've ever hit it. I mean,

943
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that's exciting, that's fun, but it's still there's nothing like that.

944
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty such that goes. I mean, you know, the

945
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 3>distance isn't you know, it's a little bit of a

946
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.000
<v Speaker 3>longer discussion, but distance is kind of a god given talent.

947
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure it's like teaching somebody to run a

948
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.480
<v Speaker 3>nine to one hundred. You either can run and run

949
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:18.400
<v Speaker 3>on in the nines at some point in your life

950
00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:21.119
<v Speaker 3>because you or you can't. It's like slam dunk, and

951
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:23.199
<v Speaker 3>even just slam dunk. It's you know, you don't just

952
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 3>wake up of monks. Oh I'm gonna go slam dunk.

953
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a genetic thing. Now you can maximize

954
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.280
<v Speaker 3>it and be more efficient and get all more efficient.

955
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Hit a little bit f but thirty foot putt. I

956
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.440
<v Speaker 3>can get somebody's never hit a thirty foot put before

957
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 3>and get him to make a thirty footer. And there's

958
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 3>the exciting thing for everybody out there listening. You know,

959
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 3>you can learn to be a better putter. You can.

960
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:49.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a learnable behavior, interesting behavior, right, it's

961
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 3>a learnable behavior, and and and it it is a behavior,

962
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:58.559
<v Speaker 3>and it requires some discipline, It requires some functional behavior

963
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:03.840
<v Speaker 3>patterns to do it consistently good, because we can all

964
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.440
<v Speaker 3>do it randomly good right to a certain extent. But

965
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 3>to do it consistently well takes what I think some

966
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:14.360
<v Speaker 3>behavior learning process or processes or whatever you want to

967
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.760
<v Speaker 3>call it, if that's the right word. But it does.

968
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:19.519
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's I find fun. And I've spent all life,

969
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, sort of a forty eight years of golf now,

970
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 3>a lot of time chasing that elusiveness and trying to

971
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:29.559
<v Speaker 3>make it less elusive.

972
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I had so many notes about things I wanted

973
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about on this recording session. But

974
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 1>luckily you live close enough that we can do this again, okay,

975
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to talk about, you know, with your

976
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.519
<v Speaker 1>experience on the tour, playing professionally, working with pros, talk

977
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:49.280
<v Speaker 1>about the anchored putter situation and all the controversy that's

978
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>going on there and how that impacts the average golfer.

979
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and then get into the bifurcation conversation or

980
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 1>even you know, Lead Jansen being d q'ed this past

981
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the other day for wearing metal spot. I mean, there's

982
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>so many different things right now that are like, really,

983
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.679
<v Speaker 1>is that is it that important? You know to go

984
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>over the bell. We'll do that another time, but I

985
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.760
<v Speaker 1>do before we finish, there was something you said before

986
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>we started recording that I want to get you to

987
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>repeat because it's so critically important to every golfer to

988
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 1>know this. Because you said, what there are three things

989
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:28.519
<v Speaker 1>that it takes to be a better golfer, and you

990
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>just summed it up so easily, and I think this

991
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:33.119
<v Speaker 1>should be our closing comment.

992
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, the first thing is get the ball in

993
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.960
<v Speaker 3>the fairway, and the next thing is has become more

994
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 3>efficient at chipping and become more efficient at putting, and

995
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 3>and those are three very manageable areas I mean they

996
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 3>don't require you know, you know what the you know

997
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.760
<v Speaker 3>what the trouble is a little bit is that those

998
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:56.639
<v Speaker 3>things don't sell equipment, equipment, and so we're bombarded. They

999
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:59.320
<v Speaker 3>don't sell magazines really, I mean they do kind of,

1000
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.639
<v Speaker 3>but do I really you know, yeah, I'll look at

1001
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's become a little more interesting now because

1002
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:07.320
<v Speaker 3>the pros have made it so so relevant to their success.

1003
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, you've got putting coaches now, You've got short

1004
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.880
<v Speaker 3>game coaches now, and so these guys are you know,

1005
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 3>and they and they and you know, but you know, really,

1006
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 3>do I need a new wedge or do I need

1007
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:21.199
<v Speaker 3>twenty extra yards off the team?

1008
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I got a call from a friend of mine yesterday.

1009
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.320
<v Speaker 1>His wife golf me, and she goes. He said, he

1010
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>wants a new driver and and so I'm calling to

1011
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 1>get a recommendation from you. And I said, you know,

1012
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to hear this from me, but a

1013
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:36.039
<v Speaker 1>driver is not what he needs, right, Yeah, that's not

1014
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:37.559
<v Speaker 1>going to change his game that much.

1015
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'll sum this up. Years ago, I had

1016
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.960
<v Speaker 3>the opportunity to spend a little bit of time with

1017
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:47.079
<v Speaker 3>Phil Rodgers, who's a notable golf instructor, short game man,

1018
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 3>and was a great player in his own right, one

1019
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.079
<v Speaker 3>on the PGA tour. I think had an opportunity once

1020
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.760
<v Speaker 3>to win the British Open and didn't, might have won

1021
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.280
<v Speaker 3>a US amateur, competed well as an amateur, was a

1022
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 3>friend and mutual respected golfer by Jack Nicholas, and actually

1023
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:06.280
<v Speaker 3>spent some time in Jack's later career helping him with

1024
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.119
<v Speaker 3>a short game, and I think might have been partially

1025
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:14.519
<v Speaker 3>responsible for his eighty six Masters win. But Phil was

1026
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:16.320
<v Speaker 3>a disciple of Paul Running, a man who I had

1027
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:18.960
<v Speaker 3>an opportunity to spend a lot of time with later.

1028
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 3>But before this happened, I was working one summer at

1029
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:23.800
<v Speaker 3>a driving range in San Diego at an old place

1030
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 3>called Stardust, which I think is called Riverwalk and twenty

1031
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:30.079
<v Speaker 3>seven holes in the Heartland, and it was Scott Simpson's hangout.

1032
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:31.840
<v Speaker 3>It was a bunch of wonderful golfers. Had spent a

1033
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:33.559
<v Speaker 3>lot of time there in my day with Scott Simpson.

1034
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:36.920
<v Speaker 3>And there's a plthora of great players, most of which

1035
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 3>your viewers may not have heard of, but they were

1036
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 3>very good at their own right. Spend a lot of

1037
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:42.599
<v Speaker 3>time at start ups. Phil Rodgers was one of those players,

1038
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.880
<v Speaker 3>and he taught there. And I had a very lowly

1039
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 3>job of picking up range balls on the driving range.

1040
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 3>I say lonely because it's usually late at night or

1041
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 3>early in the morning. But I would watch Phil and

1042
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 3>he had a program in those days where as a coach,

1043
00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:58.840
<v Speaker 3>he would charge you a certain fee for certain amount

1044
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 3>of months and help you improve your game. And I

1045
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:05.000
<v Speaker 3>rarely saw him on the driving range. And yet these guys,

1046
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 3>mostly men, were lined up to write them a check

1047
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.400
<v Speaker 3>to get better at golf. And he said, I'll get

1048
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:11.599
<v Speaker 3>you better, and if I don't, you get yours a

1049
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 3>proportion of your money back, right, And so guys would

1050
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.239
<v Speaker 3>sign up all day long. And this is you know,

1051
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 3>in the late seventies, guys going down there, spending good

1052
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.480
<v Speaker 3>money with this gentleman to do this. So I asked

1053
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.039
<v Speaker 3>them one day, I said, mister Rogers, got to ask you,

1054
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 3>what's the secret of your success? I mean, how do

1055
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:28.039
<v Speaker 3>you get these guys get better at golf? And he said, John,

1056
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.559
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty simple, he said, I reduced the amount of

1057
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:32.480
<v Speaker 3>spin off the tee. So I usually give them a

1058
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 3>more lofted club get I get the ball in the

1059
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.880
<v Speaker 3>fairway rule number one, less side spin. I said, once

1060
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<v Speaker 3>I get him near the green, I get them not

1061
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.119
<v Speaker 3>to chili dip, I get them hit them. I get

1062
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 3>them to hit the ball first and make better contact

1063
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.000
<v Speaker 3>with their short game and get the ball going at

1064
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 3>their target more effectively. That said, I get them out

1065
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 3>of bunkers. I get them get the ball, get them

1066
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:54.199
<v Speaker 3>get the ball elevated, and have a little bit of

1067
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 3>control over it what they're doing. So I improve their

1068
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:59.159
<v Speaker 3>wedge game around the green, and I help them not

1069
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:02.760
<v Speaker 3>to hit the three putt, and and I increase their

1070
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:05.480
<v Speaker 3>five footer their makes of their five footers. So I

1071
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 3>get them to hit it more solid around the short

1072
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 3>game area with the intention of where the ball wants

1073
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 3>to go, and I get the ball on the fairway.

1074
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<v Speaker 3>And and really, what what's itering about that is if

1075
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:16.400
<v Speaker 3>you look at practice facilities around the country for the

1076
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:19.639
<v Speaker 3>average player, they're just not designed to do that. And

1077
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<v Speaker 3>no one's really selling that because how does that sell?

1078
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:25.519
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1079
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<v Speaker 3>You know? I mean it does a little bit if

1080
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 3>success sells. Yeah, yeah, if you go to Dave Pels.

1081
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<v Speaker 3>But but but you know, and you spend some time,

1082
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 3>maybe you spend some time with me and and you

1083
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.039
<v Speaker 3>see the light. But you've got to buy into it.

1084
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.079
<v Speaker 3>You've got to buy into that concept, you know. And

1085
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:42.360
<v Speaker 3>so I just asked your listeners to how many just

1086
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:44.679
<v Speaker 3>start tickets from? How many fairways did I hit this week?

1087
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 3>And how many how many chips did I hit from

1088
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:51.559
<v Speaker 3>inside of sixty yards got on the green and within

1089
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 3>a makeable putt distance? And then how many puts did

1090
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 3>I actually have for each round? So just keep my

1091
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.440
<v Speaker 3>stats inside of eighty yards and how many fair I

1092
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 3>hit forget about all that other stuff, you know, for

1093
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 3>the average golfer, that I get it, that I get

1094
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.119
<v Speaker 3>it near the pin with a makeable putt for eighty

1095
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 3>yards a makeable but I mean thirty favorite it's an

1096
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:13.239
<v Speaker 3>uphill thirty foot is it makeable? You know? And and

1097
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 3>and then how many putts did I have? And you

1098
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:18.719
<v Speaker 3>will start to see, gosh, out of my hundred shots,

1099
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:26.119
<v Speaker 3>fifty sex sixty, we're with a driver, wedge or a putter. Amazing, right,

1100
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:28.880
<v Speaker 3>And so where do I spend sixty percent of my

1101
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:33.320
<v Speaker 3>time practicing? It's not getting ten more extra yards, It

1102
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 3>just isn't so. And you'll see guys in the PGA

1103
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:40.199
<v Speaker 3>tour they're working on that roller and they're working on

1104
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:42.800
<v Speaker 3>that putter, they're working on their wedge game, and it's flawless.

1105
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:46.000
<v Speaker 3>When you it's it's pure art. When Tom Pernice is

1106
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.719
<v Speaker 3>a college teammate of mine who's had a late career

1107
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:50.760
<v Speaker 3>in golf, and I had I've had an opportunity to

1108
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 3>spend some time around in recent years and and play

1109
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.679
<v Speaker 3>with them once or twice, and it's And Corey Pavin

1110
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:59.280
<v Speaker 3>was another teammate of mine, and to watch them do

1111
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:03.280
<v Speaker 3>what they do with a edgena potter is just spectacular.

1112
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:09.280
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's unbelievable. So you know, maybe most people

1113
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.519
<v Speaker 3>don't view it the way I do. But to take

1114
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 3>a bad lie around the green and make it work somehow,

1115
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:18.360
<v Speaker 3>a challenging lie and make it when I mean, we

1116
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:20.840
<v Speaker 3>saw this tiger shot last year from Mirfield. He didn't

1117
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:22.679
<v Speaker 3>play so well this year, but last year he made

1118
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 3>that shot from behind the green. You go, how did

1119
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:26.760
<v Speaker 3>he do that? Well? He does that in practice a lot.

1120
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<v Speaker 3>We may not think he does, but he does. You know,

1121
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.840
<v Speaker 3>the viewers may understand that, but he does. So it

1122
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:35.519
<v Speaker 3>takes practice, takes a little bit of knowledge, some application,

1123
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<v Speaker 3>and you can get better
