WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:02.359 You'll go be beer. 2 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:15.240 It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this for February 3 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:19.199 twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. For the next hour or so, 4 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:21.519 let me help you sort through the world of gaming 5 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:25.199 on Game Mess Mornings Live with Me Jeff Grub. Today, 6 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:28.440 Monster Hunter Wilds is off to a roaring start, despite 7 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:31.600 numerous complaints about its performance on PC. But first, please 8 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.880 join me and welcoming today's co host to Gay Mess Mornings. 9 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:37.560 It's lex a lot of everybody, LEXI, how are you doing? 10 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:39.640 Not too bad? Grub? 11 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:43.000 This being an hour later is really fucking with me. 12 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:46.479 It's now five pm for me, and yeah, so I'm like, 13 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:48.920 I'm finishing up for the day and here I am 14 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:51.359 talking with you chuckleheads like it's the fucking morning. 15 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:52.200 That's right. 16 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:56.679 So I'm pretty sure last week Tom mentioned that that 17 00:00:56.759 --> 00:00:58.399 he wanted you to try to get Jordan on. 18 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:00.079 I didn't even try. 19 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.159 I wanted to tell the entire giant Barmb audience Jordan 20 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.959 Middler will not appear on this podcast until he takes 21 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:09.840 me on one on one at what's the name of 22 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:10.920 the wrestling event. 23 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:14.719 You go, the let's see fast Lane. 24 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:20.280 At w w E Fast Lane, get fucked. Middler, You're 25 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:22.159 not You're you're not even Middler. 26 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:22.799 You're minor. 27 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.439 Get get fucked, and I'm major. And if you divide 28 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:29.159 that by two, then you I don't know the rest 29 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:29.319 of it. 30 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:33.000 No, that was you're cutting a promo. It works, that's uh, 31 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:35.680 that's perfect. Yeah, Jordan Midler a coward and we all 32 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:38.599 know it. Lexie, how are you doing otherwise? 33 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:40.159 I'm doing pretty okay. 34 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:44.959 I just got back from visiting grandparents today, so that 35 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.959 was like done. I've been trying to digitize all family tapes, 36 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:57.159 which boy analog signals, they're wonderful to work with Powell 37 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.359 version of analog signals even more. 38 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:01.799 I didn't think about that. That's that's got to be 39 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.040 a fun challenge. I don't blame analog. I blame digital. 40 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.759 I think digital did not respect analog enough. And uh 41 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:11.479 and it's so I put full, full blame on that 42 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:15.479 side of the equation there. But yeah, it's you know, 43 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.479 I've been plugging in sixty four into various things recently 44 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:20.319 and that's been, uh, that's. 45 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.159 Been wilde Like oh, what makes the start and what doesn't. 46 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.120 The nice thing of this is like, yeah, I'm like 47 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:29.120 recording all this like family footage or whatever from camcorders. 48 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:32.039 But actually what I'm doing is getting a setup for 49 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.000 like recording my PS two. 50 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:36.439 That's what I'm actually doing. 51 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:38.199 You once you're done with the VCR, you could just 52 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:39.879 plug in the PS two and you're good to go. 53 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:42.639 There. Yeah, that's definitely. 54 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.400 I've been spend a lot more time thinking about plugging 55 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:46.919 in old consoles and stuff like that. 56 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:48.800 I don't want to. I'm not going to become a collector. 57 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:51.240 I like like Dan Record's basement, but I don't need 58 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:53.520 my basement to be filled with games. I just want 59 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:55.879 the old consoles to have like the ever drive on 60 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:56.400 it and stuff. 61 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:58.479 And that's That's been a fun process getting off. 62 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:00.360 I wish I was the same way. But I'm looking 63 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.120 at an Amazon basket with Babylon's. 64 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:04.560 Falling it right now, and I'm like, I should own that. 65 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:09.240 Well, okay, owning games for a bit, I like a lot. 66 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:12.039 I do have multiple copies of Balance Wonderworld, and I 67 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:13.000 don't know who to blame for. 68 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.039 You're welcome, you'll well, yep, then I do know who 69 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:20.240 to blame. Yeah, one of them, Oh yeah, at least one. 70 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:21.960 I think I might have. I might have bought the 71 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:23.719 other one. I don't know. I'm trying to think, did 72 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:25.960 you give me this switch one too? At some point? 73 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.360 Yes, I gave you the switch one at Summer Games first, 74 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:29.879 you know, so you can play it on the go. 75 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:32.879 And I must have bought the Xbox one myself. They're 76 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:34.800 both up there on the wall. I should get that 77 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:35.400 back in frame. 78 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.840 Yeah, you playing anything big right now. 79 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:43.560 I had just reviewed Like a Dragon Pilot Yakuza in Hawaii, 80 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:46.039 which I super liked. I reviewed it the Game of Guides, 81 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.879 gave it eighty eighth and guessed on the entail end 82 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.439 of that stream. I know you've been enjoying that game. 83 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.479 It's just a real good time. I put like fifty 84 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:59.800 hours into it. Round a platinumingsh and yeah, it's kind 85 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.919 of It's kind of what I needed. I'll take one 86 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.120 of these a year. If they want to keep doing 87 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:05.840 one of these a year, I'll play through one of 88 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:10.759 these a year. And I just in solved Monster Hunter. 89 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.719 Got a code just today, so I'm going to play 90 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:17.040 that this evening. I'm playing a thing that's embargoed but 91 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:21.120 I think is fucking awesome. And I also played a 92 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:26.040 bunch of Ninja five oh, yesterday. You find that it's good. 93 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:30.160 It's a yeah, it's not like a fancy port or anything. 94 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.839 There's a bit of like artwork and you know, small 95 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:36.319 things like that, but like it's very solid. It's like 96 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:41.959 a step down from the Castlevania collections and stuff like 97 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:43.519 that when it comes to like the stuff that has 98 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.079 in it. But it has a nice rewind feature, It 99 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.879 has trophy support and achievements and everything. And it has 100 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:54.120 both Ninja five oh and Ninja cop Honish, so both regions. 101 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.040 And yeah, that game is fun. Of shit, that game 102 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:57.800 is still really fun. 103 00:04:58.079 --> 00:04:58.240 Yep. 104 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.920 Yeah, it's been a long time hitting Jim on the 105 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.279 game Boy advance to the point where the physical copies 106 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:05.800 that you know, they didn't print a ton of those 107 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:09.839 very expensive, so you know, north of one hundred dollars 108 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:12.079 I think a lot of time. So yeah, being able 109 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.000 to just buy this game for twenty five bucks pretty 110 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:16.639 good deal. All right, let's explain what we do here 111 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.360 most weekdays, I Jeff Grub, will help piece your gaming 112 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.480 life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe even 113 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.680 some of our own original reporting. For all these topics, 114 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:28.000 I'll get the input of a bona fide expert who 115 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.680 will make me look smart. If you are watching live 116 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:33.279 on Twitch welcome. You can always listen to the show 117 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:36.240 later on podcast feeds by searching for game Mes Mornings, 118 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:40.120 or find the rsso giant bomb dot com. You can 119 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:43.439 also catch the show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. 120 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:45.519 Hello YouTube. 121 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:47.360 All right, we have a lot to get into, so 122 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:52.040 let's start the morning mess with Monster Hunter Wilde surpasses 123 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:55.319 one point three million concurrent players on Steam. This is 124 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:59.000 from Ben Lyons at Game Reactor. It looks like we'll 125 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:02.639 be hearing about Montar hundred wilds smashing some crazy sales 126 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:06.079 milestones in the coming hours or perhaps at the latest days. 127 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.560 We say this because on Steam alone, the game almost 128 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:11.560 just surpassed one million concurrent players. 129 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:13.519 This is the earlier version of the story. They will 130 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:14.560 update it here at the end. 131 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:17.279 And this is all ahead of its opening weekend, which 132 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:20.319 will no doubt see this peak rise and rise and rise. 133 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.839 That's usually how it works with these games. They hit 134 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:24.480 their peak in the first weekend a. 135 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:24.800 Lot of times. 136 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:26.959 Although this is a you know, a game that could 137 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.360 continue to grow over the next couple of weeks as 138 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.920 word of mouth spreads, although maybe that won't be so positive. 139 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:34.360 We'll talk about that as well. 140 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:36.920 The crazy thing about this number is it's all but 141 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:39.199 affirms that a million copies of the game have been 142 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:42.920 shifted on PC alone. So usually with like you know, 143 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:45.199 when you look at the concurrent numbers, and so as 144 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.000 a reminder, that is people playing the game at the 145 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:51.240 same time right now online on Steam. That's that's where 146 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:54.879 we get these numbers from. Usually it's probably safe to 147 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:58.040 assume that it's like usually sold about double that, right, 148 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:02.439 because there's gonna be people in that and the Awake regions, 149 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:05.560 places in the world where it's daylight, where people are 150 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:08.920 still playing games that aren't playing the game in that moment. 151 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:10.759 And then there's the whole other half of the world. 152 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:13.319 That might be sleeping in that moment who also probably 153 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:15.680 have bought quite a few copies of that game. So yeah, 154 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:19.480 this is probably racing to two three million copies sold 155 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:25.120 on Steam instantly. That is really really impressive. This franchise 156 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:29.720 has officially broken through, right, I Mean, I've been huge 157 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:31.040 for a long time, but it feels like it is 158 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.639 caught on in a major way with this release. 159 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.959 Yeah, I'd be super curious to see these numbers compared 160 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:41.199 to World and Ice Born and to see like how 161 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.519 big those were on seam when they first launched. I 162 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.720 know they launched later on Seam and that was like 163 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:49.040 a big problem that those games came out later on 164 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:53.360 Steam than on consoles. But yeah, without even factoring in 165 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:57.800 console sales, which like in regions like Japan, a lot 166 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.000 of these sales are going to be on PS fives 167 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:05.040 set of on PC. Yeah, that's a it's a wild number. 168 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.639 It's huge. It's like games. 169 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.000 Just don't sell like that at the moment for the 170 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.199 most part, Like even games that sell well don't sell 171 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:17.319 that well unless they're Call of Duty right now. 172 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:21.120 Yep, it's a yeah, one point three million concurrence on Steam. 173 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:22.879 One million, one million, three. 174 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.879 Hundred and seven and seventy six is what it hit 175 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:31.600 earlier today, kind of yes, earlier today, which makes it 176 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.519 the sixth most concurrently played game at one time ever 177 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.120 on Steam already. And again it's going to probably have 178 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:42.240 more people playing this weekend than this, so, I. 179 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:45.080 Mean, it puts it right up there with Blackmith Wukong. 180 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:47.759 And when you consider what a cultural moment that was 181 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:51.960 for the most populous country on the planet, like the 182 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:57.039 cultural penetration worldwide for this is really impressive, and so yeah, 183 00:08:57.120 --> 00:08:58.679 it's it's super interesting. 184 00:08:59.039 --> 00:08:59.240 Yep. 185 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:01.639 I mean you mentioned it releasing on Steam at the 186 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:04.759 same time as the consoles obviously helped, but you wouldn't 187 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.080 expect like the jump from World. Sambo Nis and Chat 188 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:08.960 reminds us that World had an all time peak Cup 189 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:12.000 three hundred and thirty thousand, and then Rise had an 190 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:15.120 all time peak Cup two hundred and thirty one thousand US. 191 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.639 So yeah, you could see already that it's like. 192 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:21.559 Grown significantly more than three more than tripled, you know, 193 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:26.000 honestly kind of quadrupled. So yeah, that this is the 194 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:31.399 game catching on, breaking through finding that massive wide appeal audience, 195 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:34.240 and you know, it's what Capcom wanted to do with 196 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:37.960 this game. So Mission accomplished in a lot of ways. 197 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:40.480 Now there is the other half of this, at least 198 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:44.120 on on Steam on PC, and that is while the 199 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:48.759 numbers for Concurrent players off the charts, the reviews on Steam, 200 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:52.200 the user reviews much more middling. They are I think 201 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.879 it's you know, below fifty percent positive reviews or something 202 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:57.000 like that, in the forty percent range for you know, 203 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.840 thumbs up or thumbs down. The majority of giving it 204 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:03.080 a thumbs down because of performance problems. 205 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:06.080 It is. I watched a little bit of the Digital. 206 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:08.399 Foundry thing and it's like, if you have a GPU 207 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:11.919 with eight gigabytes of RAM, and Nvidia still loves selling 208 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.279 GPUs with only eight gigabytes of v RAM, this game 209 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.000 is really rough to the point where you have to 210 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.159 turn textures down to their lowest and this is a 211 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:23.559 game where textures they call it medium, but the medium 212 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:24.480 texture option. 213 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.279 It makes the game look really bad. 214 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.039 And then even then you're still going to get quite 215 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:32.399 a bit of stuttering, and so it they like just 216 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:35.360 the the across the board recommendation in this moment is 217 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:37.399 don't buy this game on PC unless you. 218 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.200 Can route force your way to performance. 219 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:44.840 That is not hurting the game in this moment, LEXI, 220 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.000 do you think that is something that could slow it down? 221 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.720 Yeah, I mean it's definitely like Team of Views Last Forever, 222 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:57.200 and that's something that a lot of smaller developers have 223 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:58.320 been finding for a long time. 224 00:10:58.399 --> 00:10:58.559 You know. 225 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.720 I think No Man's Sky they basically like threw a 226 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.559 party in the office when they ticked over to from 227 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:10.240 mixed to mostly positive or whatever and then took. 228 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:12.480 Eight years, nine years or something. Crazy. 229 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:17.159 Yeah, So yeah, like it's it is something that lingers 230 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:19.080 around the game, and it's a hard number to change 231 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.600 because how many people go back and change a review 232 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:26.840 after if things get fixed. That is to say, like 233 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.440 if Capcom do fix it. I know they put in 234 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.799 a bunch of work to Dragonsagma two and that runs 235 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:36.480 a fair bit better now both on like base hardware, 236 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:38.320 PS five pro and PC. 237 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.320 So hopefully they do support. 238 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.080 It, and like you imagine that when it comes to 239 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:46.320 just good will in the community, they kind of have to. 240 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.720 Now that's so much of their playerbase is there. 241 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.320 Yeah, you know, I think they will make improvements over time, 242 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:55.679 but you get the sense that they were using some 243 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:59.799 crutches on PC. That the fact that it starts with 244 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:04.320 a dialogue box suggesting that you turn on in Nvidia 245 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:09.159 DLSS frame generation it was worrisome to the guys over 246 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.240 at Digital Foundry, and it's something I haven't seen in 247 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:11.879 a game before. 248 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:13.879 That is usually an option that is unchecked by. 249 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.039 Default, and you go in there turn it on if 250 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.720 you have the performance to plug those frame generation frames 251 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.399 on top of decent performance. The trouble is if you 252 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.559 have stuttering and performance that maybe drops to the thirty 253 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.440 forty frames per second. Range frame generation basically doesn't function 254 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:35.919 the way you need it to get a good, good 255 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:38.919 looking game. So it was weird that they're like, no, 256 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.000 just turn this on. This is what we expect you 257 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:44.879 to do, so just take it and run. It's a 258 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.440 sign that maybe they are hoping they can put a 259 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:51.720 band aid on there with brute force methods and it's okay. 260 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:53.759 You definitely came in with it came in hot, at 261 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:56.639 least for the PC version. Now PlayStation five, Xbox haven't 262 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:58.879 heard similar complaints. Seems like it's running pretty well on 263 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.159 those platforms. Definitely PlayStation. 264 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:03.879 It is one of those things where like, this is 265 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:08.039 a genuinely big issue that probably just doesn't crop up 266 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.159 in a lot of reviews because you think the people 267 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.000 who are asking for a PC code when Monster Hunter 268 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:17.000 comes in, they have a good PC. They have looked 269 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:18.639 at what that game is like and they're like, yeah, no, 270 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:21.559 I'd rather play this on PC than on my console. 271 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:24.799 So it's just something that probably hasn't. 272 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:27.399 Come up in a lot of reviews up until it 273 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:29.679 gets in the hands of people who have more mid 274 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.759 end PCs and this is their only way to play games. 275 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.039 This is the only platform to play games on, and 276 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:36.279 then it's a huge problem. 277 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:41.480 Yeah, it's it's an issue. There's also you know, we'll 278 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.120 get back to the performance here in a second, because 279 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:45.240 Capcom Dead respond to that, but let's kind of go 280 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:49.120 through some of the other criticisms here. They did. 281 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:51.159 They did the kind of an all nasty trick, that 282 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.200 one that I'm not a fan of and I have 283 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:57.960 always really despised when publishers do this move during the 284 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.240 review period. There was no clean of this thing that 285 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.320 has now already reared its head now that the game 286 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:08.159 is live, to change your to change your appearance, you 287 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:11.240 get like one free time to change your character's appearance 288 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:13.639 in certain ways, like I think you can like change 289 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:16.039 your hair at any time for free. But if you 290 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.159 want to go in there and make more drastic changes, 291 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.080 it is you quickly get into a micro transaction store 292 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:25.279 and you have to pay some money, and it's oh, okay, wait, 293 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:27.720 where where did this come from? And you know, you know, 294 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:29.960 I get why they don't have these stores sometimes running 295 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.559 when when it's in a review period, I suppose, but 296 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:36.279 it's like that that is part of the game. It 297 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:40.080 should be there for reviewers to assess and decide how 298 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:43.000 it affects things, and so to turn it on once 299 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:47.360 it's live. I very much disliked that, but I'd like 300 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.279 that that's a Capcom move recently. 301 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:52.159 Yeah, and that's the kind of thing that like, That's 302 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.879 why review guides are there. Review guides are there to 303 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:57.080 let you know about things that may not be fully 304 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:00.399 working purely because it's a not out to the public 305 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.799 version of the game, or you know, you don't have 306 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:06.440 all the additional information that you have once a game 307 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:10.360 is publicly available, and that stuff that should be upfront 308 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:12.799 and told to the viewers. And it's super shitty that 309 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.600 it's not. Like I've only found out about that today 310 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:19.919 browsing through Blue Sky, and I was like, man, that sucks, 311 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.559 because tonight I kind of just wanted to load up 312 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:24.440 and play a bit of the game and check it 313 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:26.639 out and then go back and change my character later. 314 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:28.200 But now I'm going to be like, oh, I have 315 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.279 to get my character fucking right. So I'm going to 316 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:32.960 be in there for fucking two hours making sure my. 317 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:33.840 Character looks right. 318 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.159 And it's also worth noting that, like pretty much all 319 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:40.279 the reviewers that do get these games get the Deluxe edition, 320 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:41.200 which have made. 321 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.120 And maybe that's what happened here. Yeah, good point. 322 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:47.200 Yeah, which have extra cosmetics and things like that, and 323 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:51.039 so you're kind of like you're going into it with 324 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.399 the mindset are like, oh, this game like has a 325 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:56.639 bunch of cosmetics from the go, and even though you 326 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.960 know maybe a third of them or half half of 327 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.679 them were stuff that you got because you got the 328 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:05.679 deluxe version, and you know, you just don't pay that 329 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:09.559 much attention to each and every cosmetic item that came 330 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:12.600 in the version of the game that pure sent to you, 331 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:14.840 and you just stop playing the games for all review. 332 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:19.279 So yeah, I think that's like super shitty and fucking 333 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:19.799 don't do that. 334 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:24.399 Yep. Yeah, it's it's it's annoying. It's a definitely a 335 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.200 black mark on the way Capcom is operated. Recently. 336 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:30.399 They have done similar sort of micro transactions in their 337 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.679 games a lot recently. I think people pointing out in 338 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:38.159 chat worlds had similar stuff. Dragon's Dogma two had similar 339 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:39.600 micro transactions. 340 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:42.399 So I mean, like, even weirdly enough, the Resident Evil games, 341 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.039 you look at their staw pages, they are shock full 342 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:47.039 of bullshit and you look at it and you're like, 343 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:49.159 I don't want any of this because it ruins the 344 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.399 balancing of the game, Like why would I ever want 345 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:52.799 to engage with any of this stuff? 346 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.360 And maybe there's something to be said for the reason 347 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.320 people don't complain is a lot of the stuff is 348 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.759 easy to ignore. But being able to change the way 349 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:05.039 your character like just looks at a base level charging 350 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:07.480 for that feels weird. 351 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.519 Especially when like when such a big point to this 352 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:14.400 game was then being like yeah, was then being like, oh, 353 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.720 transmog is something that we've worked with from the beginning, 354 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:20.079 and we want you to be able to customize your 355 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:22.480 character and look how you want to look, and then 356 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.240 to take the maybe most personalized part of that and 357 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.519 like coordinate off as something that you may have to 358 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:31.200 pay extra for if you want to go in deep 359 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:37.440 and sucks. I remember I hadn't played Destiny to four years, 360 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:42.759 but they reintroduced the option to read to change your character, 361 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:46.359 and like, I put in three thousand hours into Destiny one, 362 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:50.519 Like I loved my character, but when I went back 363 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:51.799 to play it, every time I went back to play it, 364 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:53.599 I was like, Oh, it's a man. 365 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:54.799 That's not cool. 366 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.480 And then I went back in and they were like, oh, yeah, 367 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:00.839 you can just change your character's holders now and you 368 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:02.640 can change your agenda and you can change whatever. And 369 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:05.319 I was like, oh, it's nice. This is changed literally 370 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:07.039 nothing for anyone else if they don't want it to. 371 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:09.519 But this is a nice addition, and it's something that 372 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:11.960 I can go back to change my character. And now 373 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:14.359 suddenly I feel way more inclined to play Destiny to 374 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:17.680 again because there's one less thing that I look at 375 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.559 when I load up, and I'm like, hmm, And that's like, ultimately, 376 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:23.359 what all these things are is whether it's a thing 377 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.519 that like is personal in my case, or if it's 378 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:29.960 a microtransaction that are like these tiny hang ups. And 379 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:31.839 you'd think that those are the tiny hang ups that 380 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:35.759 game developers and the publishers are trying to like stay 381 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:38.519 away from right now because it's so hard to people 382 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:40.839 to even get in the door and play their games. 383 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:45.599 And like news stories like this, we've seen them snowball 384 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:49.960 out of proportion because people take them at their worst 385 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:53.200 and read way too much into them. So it's a 386 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:55.799 weird thing that they've kind of allowed to slip by. 387 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:58.799 Yeah, and uh, you know, Capcom has mostly gotten away 388 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:01.519 with it the most part, and people point out, like 389 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:04.680 there was definitely references to this is the way it 390 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:07.079 would work in the beta and during the review period. 391 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.720 It's just God, I've read a couple of reviews and 392 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:11.720 no one mentioned anything like this, And I guess it's 393 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.519 easy to if you don't interact with this stuff, or 394 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:16.079 you've got the character you wanted to when you start, 395 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:17.720 it'd be easy to miss this sort of thing. So 396 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:19.880 I could see that that's probably what happened here as well. 397 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:24.319 Either way, It's like the fundamental criticism here, of course, 398 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:26.759 is this is a weird thing to charge people for. 399 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:30.799 It feels Nickel and Dimi for products that are already 400 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:32.319 very expensive things to purchase. 401 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:35.519